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Get some facts and come back and
seebe. Get some facts and come back

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and Seebee. Don't throw up salaries
or other things. Get some facts and

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come back and Seebee. You can't
handle the truth now told our players you

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need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats

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in here. Looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my

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extra bands on, I got my
other shoes. Be a doll. We

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don't need no meals. We don't
need no cats. We need more dolls.

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Why are not a detain Oh you're
not at the day we weren't good.

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There's no sense of asking me things
about the game. I'm telling you

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we laid an egg. So I'm
not gonna break it down for you.

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He sucks. He sucked when he
laid an egg. That's all I have

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to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not going to break it down

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for you. Nothing went well for
us. It's on us. We have

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to figure it out. We went. There are certain teams that need to

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figure it out before their season ends. In the postseason. Welcome to the

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final hour of Ex's Bros. Monday
through Friday, six until nine across the

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Great State of Michigan. I'm Matt
Sheppard. Ben is our producer. You

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can call him on the Meyer hotline
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forty three. Speaking of Meyer,
they've got some great deals coming up on

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BEEF. I need to tell you
about that and we will. You can

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text us at sports Radio twenty one
thousand. Tigers come back beat the Marlins

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in game one of their three games
set six to five to the final.

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They were down five to three in
the eighth. They scored three times in

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the eighth inning. Andy and Binya
Is with an RBI single Spencer Torkolson hit

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a two out, two strike,
two run homer that proved to be the

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difference. Not that he's figured it
out, not that he's turned the corner,

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not that he's become a different player, but sometimes after you get the

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first one, home runs can at
times come in bunches. Two homers total

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in the last two games is not
bunches, but it's a good sign.

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Game two of that series is today
NBA Boston BA Cleveland one O nine,

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one oh two. That means the
Celtics are up three games to one.

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They are clearly the better team in
the series thus far, and they are

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the more dominant team when Donovan Mitchell
isn't playing. He was out with a

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calf injury yesterday so couldn't play.
Cleveland was game man. Got to give

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him a ton of credit. But
in the end, Jason Tatum thirty three,

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Jaylen Brown twenty seven too much for
Boston. They should close it out.

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I believe Tomorrow is Game five in
Boston, OKC even their series with

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Dallas. They beat the Mavericks one
hundred to ninety six despite a triple double

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from Luka Dancic eighteen twelve and ten. Jay Gilgis Alexander who Shaquille O'Neil thought

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should have been named the MVP and
told Nikola Jokic that, which is pretty

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interesting, and Jokis just stood there, Okay, yeah, I appreciate your

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opinion. I mean, fight back
a little bit. But anyway. He

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had thirty four points, third straight
game of thirty or more in the NHL.

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Carolina scored four times in the third
second straight game they've staved off elimination.

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They beat the Rangers at Madison Square
Garden four to one. The Rangers

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lead the series three games to two. Game six in Raleigh, North Carolina

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is Wednesday, night holme Ice.
I've said it time and time again.

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It's not as big a deal as
home court in basketball, I believe,

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or I think home field in football
I would rank I would rank them that

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way. I might be surprised if
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home field slash court slash ice advantage. But that's how I see it.

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Dallas blows out Colorado five to one, goes to show you it was in

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Denver. Wyatt Johnston had a couple
of goals, including a shorthanded tally.

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Stars lead the series three games to
one. PGA Championship will tee it up

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in a couple of days. Looking
forward to that. Scotty Scheffler is the

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favorite there, but you've got Brooks
Koepka, who won his last tournament on

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the Live Tour. You've got Rory
McElroy, who just won his fourth Wells

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Fargo Championship over the weekend. It's
gonna be a fun tournament at the PGA.

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I'm looking forward to following that,
Jared Goff signs or reportedly has signed

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the four year contract extension worth two
hundred and twelve million dollars one hundred and

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seventy million guarantee fifty three million per
year. He's the second highest paid quarterback

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per season. He's the highest paid
Lion of all time. Tampa kind of

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follows Suit, not in the same
realm of money, but four year deal

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with Antoine Winfield as an extension.
The cornerback joins Baker Mayfield, Mike Evans,

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Levante David with extensions this offseason for
Tampa, So a big deal for

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them. Plenty of discussion open for
you regarding the extension for Jared Goff on

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the Meyer Hotline eight sixty six,
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you. Feel free. We've talked
a lot about it, all right,

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and happy to discuss it more.
But there's there's other news too. I'm

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to get into these mock drafts for
the NBA. We've done it before for

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the NFL, and for good reason. With all due respect, I can't

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speak to how good Nicola Tapitch is, the kid from Serbia, the eighteen

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year old guard from Serbia. Sorry, I mean I watched Donovan Klingen for

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Yukon this year and he was really
good and Castle for really good they could

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be in the conversation for the Pistons
at number five, So could Dalton Connect

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the six six two and thirteen pounds
senior out of Tennessee, would solve some

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issues. He was one of the
best and most consistent scorers in the country

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this year. He's a first team
All American. He averaged twenty two points

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per game. He shot close to
forty percent from deep, and was incredible

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against Purdue in the Elite Eight when
he scored thirty seven. I don't know

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if that translates to the NBA,
but the Pistons don't have anybody like him

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from a college pedigree on their team, a guy who could shoot that well

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from that deep that consistently. Now, maybe they like Ron Holland, the

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guard out of the League Ignite.
Maybe they like Zachary Roschascher from France.

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I can't speak. Maybe Reed Shepherd
would be better. He's the really good

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looking three point shooter from Kentucky.
He shot fifty two percent from deep.

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I mean, but he's he's slighter. He's six three, about one ninety

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I guess I think Connect at sixty
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a little bit different in that regard, but you're going to see that coming

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out sometime soon. You're going to
see more and more of the mock drafts

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and who the Pistons have their eye
on. I said this yesterday, I'll

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say it again today. I'm not
really disappointed that Detroit doesn't get the one

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overall pick, because if it's an
Alexander Sar, I have no idea what

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they're missing yet. Victor Webbin Yama
was a little different. Look at his

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numbers when he was playing overseas a
year ago before he came to the Spurs.

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If you look at Alexander Sar,
the numbers are not going to wow

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you. You're not thinking to yourself, holy crap. You got to do

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everything you possibly can to get this
kid. He's tall, he's slight,

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very much like Victor Webbinyama in that
regard rim, protector length, all that

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other stuff. His number's pale in
comparison offensively, so I can't project how

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good he's going to be. And
when there are people in the business who

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have a hard time projecting it,
it tells me that it's legit that I

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don't have to worry about it either. But those are the things that are

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coming out oftentimes. Right now now, the schedule is not out for the

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NFL. I think it gets released
tomorrow. We know who the Lion's opponents

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are, I just don't know in
what order. Don't know exactly who they're

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going to play on Thanksgiving Day,
but we do know the choices. We'll

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get to that when we come back. Meyer hotline is open eight six six

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not sure how you feel about interleague
play. Some love it, others hate

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it. And began in nineteen ninety
seven in the American League, has won

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more games and won the season series
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a time. A big reason is
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Detroit has finished with a winning record
in interleague action in three of the last

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four years, last year's twenty one
and twenty five record being the outlier.

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They've won fifty four percent of their
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That's among the best in baseball.
This year in a small sample size,

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they have a winning record against the
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one thousand and join the conversation as
well. Ben, I know we have

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someone waiting through the break. We
appreciate their patience. Who is it,

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Yeah, it's Breton, Grand Rapids. Hey, Brett, thanks for joining

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us right there on WMAX ninety six
point ONEFM. The game. How are

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you man? I'm doing fine,
Chef. Hey, I got two questions,

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all right. One is kind of
facatious and the other one I'm serious.

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Do you believe golf is worth fifty
three million dollars? I mean,

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no players wort that money, but
I mean he's messed up our team out

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for four years with us that balery, But my my real question I want

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to ask you is with the lack
I know you want to fan the basketball

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talent in this draft because nobody does. But with the lack of talent,

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as everybody who knows what they're talking
about says, what do you think about

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drafts? And Lebronni and half of
Lebron come to us because he and all

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them kids how to be winners?
Because whoever drafts Bron, he's getting Bron.

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Well, what do you think of
that? All right, I'm going

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to be honest with you, Brett, totally honest. I hate it.

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You why because you don't think Lebron's
a good player. You don't think Lebron

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would teach Kate and Ivy and all
of them kids how to well, No,

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I think Lebron's a I think Lebron
James is an unbelievable player. I

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don't know if we've ever seen anything
like him. I think Jordan's the greatest,

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but I don't I've never seen anybody
at his at his age do what

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he's done. I think he's he's
a robot. For crying out loud,

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but you're talking about the fifth the
overall pick, drafting a guy Broddy James,

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who in the media guy to us
he was listed at six' five,

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he's measured at six point one,
and people who went and saw his

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draft his draft Combine said he looked
really good. But nobody thinks he's going

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to get drafted at all. Now
the Lakers will probably take him at seventeen

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or whatever it is because they feel
like they've got to keep Lebron James happy.

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That I ought to tell you something
right there. If Lebron James needs

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his oldest son, who most people
feel cannot play in the NBA, but

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you're gonna waste a first round draft
pick on him just to keep him,

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I don't want that guy. Okay, Now, I got a question for

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a chef. What shows you that
the Pistons have the ability to draft a

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first round pick that high that turned
out to be a winner. They haven't

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done it for years. Do you
think do you think Kate Cunningham? Do

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you think Kate Cunningham's a good player? Do you think he was worthy of

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the draft pick? Yes? Or
no? Why not? No? I

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don't why not? Yeah, stay
on the court. I think he could

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have played down the stretch. I
don't. I don't blame him for all

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of that. I do believe that
Kate Cunningham could have played more games down

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the stretch but didn't. That's my
second half of my reason for bringing drafting

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Lebron Ronnie. We need to get
rid of Williams. Monty's gotta go.

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Whatever he brought didn't work, and
I don't think it's going to work.

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Waiting out his mega contract. We're
going to eat that contract eventually. We're

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just going to keep thanking for three
years so we don't have to eat so

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many years. Yeah, yeah,
I do get what you're saying. Why

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not bring Lebron in as a player
coach? Well, first of all,

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he's already a player coach. I
think he's a coach killer. I think

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he's a coach killer. I I
can't. I can't. I couldn't do

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it. I really could. As
great as he is, I couldn't do

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it. What's the contract you want
for Lebron James, who's the Who's the

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coach who's going to be able to
handle that? Because he wants to be

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able to run the huddle, he
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on player personnel, all that stuff
that you're they're looking for a director,

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a president of basketball operations, and
you want to bring in a guy who

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really wants to have that title and
play at the same time. I,

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personally, I don't. I think
I think the Pistons would be better off

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with Lebron's brain trust running them in
whatever we got now, because we used

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to be a good franchise and now
we can't even get or tier for you

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just to come to us. Yeah, I it's Look, it's bred.

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It's really hard to argue that I
could be a smart elegance. Say,

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how did it work out for Lebron
in LA this year? Look at what

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he said about Darvin Ham when he
was hired and after the first year,

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and look at it he turned on
him this past year. I do not

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trust him. I don't trust him
one bit. I don't want a guy

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who just because so, here's what's
gonna happen. Here's the dilemma that you

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would set yourself up with. Let's
say your scenario. Now you draft Bronni

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James, who averaged five points per
game. By the way, I'm one

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of the worst teams in the PAC
twelve. You're gonna draft him at five

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overall to appease Lebron James. Lebron
James, who turned on his coach this

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year, seems to be a bit
of a pariah in in this whole situation.

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What happens when you bench Bronni James
when he doesn't play? How is

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Lebron James going to act? What's
he going to say? Who is he

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going to turn against you? I
think it's a terrible combination and a really

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dangerous mix for a young team that
suddenly starts to take cues from a guy

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who is out to do anything for
himself and his son. I'm not gonna

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argue you with the Jeff because I
I agree with what you're I'm just saying

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we got to try something different.
Yeah, I get it. I think

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you're right, and I tried.
I tried to go as far to left

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field as I could. Yea,
I what you say? Yeah that's good.

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I mean, look, you tried. You didn't convince me, but

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if that's what you wanted to do, I mean, I'm glad you're not

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the GM or the owner, but
you know you're you're thinking outside the box.

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That's our biggest problem is the last
person you mentioned. No, there's

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no doubt about that. There's absolutely
no doubt problem. Yeah, but I

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think is when you say, when
you say they have proven that they can't

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draft. I do think Kate Cunningham
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think he's better than Jalen Green or
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or Josh Giddy. Those guys were
all taken soon thereafter Kate Cunningham. That

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was the Fron Wagner draft as well
Jonathan kaminga for Golden State. I personally

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would take Kate Cunningham of those players, and I personally wanted Jalen Suggs.

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My point is is that for one, don't even get me on the NBA

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because I'll go to my grave thinking
that the lottery's rake. I understand that

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needs a good player gets the number
one over I'll pick. It's a year

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where you get to pick from a
bunch of one bs and the one as

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Yeah, well that's why. And
thanks for the phone call, Brett.

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I really appreciate it. We can
talk to NBA anytime you like. I

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just I that would scare the hell
out of me. But I hear what

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you're saying. I think that draft
turned out to have some pretty good players

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in it overall, But I still
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Does that mean they can't judge talent? We can get into that on

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radio to twenty one thousand. Look
back to what Brett and Grand Rapids,

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who was listening on WAX ninety six
point ONEFM the game said about the NBA

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said, don't get me started on
the NBA. I wish I could get

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him started in a longer segment,
but I hear where he's coming from.

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But his point of the Pistons not
knowing who to draft or not doing a

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good job of identifying talent, we
need to keep things in a certain perspective.

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Let's take last year. We all
wanted Victor Webbin Yama unanimous Rookie of

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the Year. I wanted him to. I wish the Pistons had gotten him.

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I think it's a joke that they
didn't. It's unfortunate, but it

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happens. And I mean, that's
just the way the NBA Draft lottery is.

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We talked about this yesterday and the
reason for it. After that,

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I mean, Brandon Miller's a good
player, okay for Charlotte. After that,

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though, it's pretty limited really that
draft provided, at least from an

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impact standpoint two players. Scotty Henderson
was pretty good for Portland. We don't

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see much of him, but he
averaged fourteen points per game after that,

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Amen Thompson, Osar Thompson, Anthony
Black. I mean, it's it's really

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limited, all right, So I
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Twenty twenty two, they draft Jade
and Ivy. Who's the player you wanted

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instead of Jade and Ivy? Is
there somebody that I'm missing I'm talking about

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who they had a chance to take. Is there somebody out there that you

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think they drastically missed on? Because
Ivy is better than Keegan Murray at least

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in his career so far. Tadlo
Bankaro, Chad Holmgren, those are really

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good players. They've been very impactful
players. That draft, from an impact

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standpoint is just a handful of guys. Twenty twenty one, we've already talked

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about it. Cad Cunningham. Is
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he's played fewer games. In fact, Cad Cunningham in three years has played

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one hundred and thirty eight games.
Everybody in the top ten has played at

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least one hundred and fifty and most
have played over two hundred, so I

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hear where he's coming from in that
regard. But from a production standpoint,

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twenty points he leads all that entire
draft class. All right, rebounds per

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game pretty good. I mean for
a point forward, that's what I would

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call him. Maybe you want to
call him a guard at five boards per

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game, six and a half assists. The six and a half assists lead

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everybody in the draft class to thirty
three percent three point shooter, as good

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as most other than Jonathan Kaminga.
I don't think that was a bad pick.

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He may not be the player you
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He may not be Webin Yama.
He may not be Anthony Edwards, and

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there's no may about it. He's
not. You go back to Troy weavers

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first draft in twenty twenty, you're
still pissed off, as am I that

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they drafted Killian Hayes. Anthony Edwards
was won, and then there's a strong

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drop off after that. Wiseman LaMelo
Ball, although LaMelo Ball's bom pretty good,

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better than I thought he would be. Patrick Williams all the way down,

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Tyrese Haliburt in twenty twenty, I
remember being on a show talking Tigers,

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and somebody asked me, what about
the NBA draft. I wanted Haliburt

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because I liked him at Iowa State, and people kind of pinched their nose

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at me a little bit. I
don't know. He's turned out to be

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a pretty good player and they messed
that up. There's no two ways about

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it. You admit that you messed
it up when you said you're getting rid

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of him, and they did.
They got rid of him Killian Hayes,

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who was drafted seventh. Overall,
there were a lot better players later in

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the draft, I might add for
the Pistons, but see on top of

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the I think Brett's upset, for
example, with a guy like a Cidipbe,

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who, by the way, conveniently
was in the same draft. He

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was drafted on like nineteenth by Brooklyn. He was a good he would have

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been a good fit for this team
and was a good fit for this team,

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and they got rid of him.
That's frustrating because you're getting rid of

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a good, productive player, and
what do you have to show for it?

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Nothing? Can they evaluate talent?
I don't think, Yeah, look,

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you're upset at that draft, and
rightfully so, because they screwed it

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up period. There's no other way
to say it. They screwed that up

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the other drafts. There's not much
more you could do. Now. That

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doesn't mean they've put together the right
team. It doesn't mean that they've fixed

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any issues or that they have a
long term plan that you agree with.

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I'm just saying from those draft picks, I don't think you're taking anybody other

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than the men they selected. I
mean, look, I wish they had

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gotten the opportunity to draft Victor webbin
Yama instead of Asar Thompson, But at

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five, Asar Thompson has been proven
to be better than a lot of the

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other players taken after him. Jade
and Ivy. Same situation. You miss

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out on Bonkaro or home Grin,
but you get Ivy. What I would

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do, what I'm hoping they do, is they get an established player for

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some of the young pieces they've acquired
that another team sees has some type of

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salary cap issue. Another team sees
the value in some of those young players

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that we just mentioned, and I
don't think they're untouchable by any strategy and

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is willing to give themselves a financial
break. Give it to Detroit and get

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him return some of those young players, I think they're too young. It'd

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be great if they were all growing
together and we see this massive upside like

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we did with the nineteen eighty four
Pistons or nineteen eighty four Tigers and the

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Pistons of the early eighties, where
we see them coming together and then you

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filter in some of those established vets. I don't think many people see that.

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Let's go to the Meyer hotline eight
sixty six, eight three, eight

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forty eight forty three. Then who's
waiting for us? Danny and Brighten?

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Hi, Danny, how are you
today? Chepie Austin And how are we

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doing today? Good that we're talking. What's going on? That's what I'm

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talking about. So I told bendis
the NBA, with out of doubt,

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is my least favorite professional league.
And you know, one of the things

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that you know that Brett said about
the letter, I just kind of want

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to touch on. I don't know
why there's a lottery, and your buddy

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Sean Bealishan talked about this earlier.
The NFL doesn't do a lottery. They

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seem to do okay, And I
know the NBA and the NHL supposedly put

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a lottery in because they want to
avoid tanking. But I think it does

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the opposite, because more people tank
because teams like Atlanta can have a chance

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at getting the number one pick,
whereas they shouldn't. So that's just one

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of my own personal bugget boos.
But really, the you know, I

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was listening to talking about the distance
and the draft and and I cannot dispute

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what you're saying about the players.
But where my issue is is, let's

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say four or five years ago,
is to the Pistons were middling around in

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mediocrity. They were kind of aligned
with teams like Orlando in Oklahoma City,

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in Minnesota, in the Knicks and
Cleveland. And look at those teams now

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and look at us. They're not
better than us. They're way way better

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than us. And I can't believe
that. You know, every year they

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drafted, but you know they drafted
higher than us. I just think they

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drafted much much better than us.
Absolutely, you're one hundred percent right there.

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Now. The only thing I would
argue is the lottery. Yes,

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it gives more teams a chance to
quote unquote tank. I mean Atlanta lost

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sixth straight at the end of the
year to get in that type of position.

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It's hard to do that in the
NFL, when you play eight guys

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and you end up putting many of
them in street clothes to bring in the

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last six guys on your roster playing
in the final games of the season.

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It's easier to do that in the
NBA tank than it would be in the

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NFL, where you're carrying fifty three
guys and you're dressing forty eight every Sunday.

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Hard to tank in that regard,
Okay, But the NBA, I

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think they get it. You know, who are you going to upset if

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you're quote unquote tanking. You're gonna
upset certain guys who are at the end

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of your bench who aren't going to
be on your team anyway. Now,

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I don't think that's a big deal. So I don't compare those two leagues.

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I don't think it's a fair comparison. Now, your point about these

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teams being much better than the absolutely
when you watch the Pistons and then you

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watch teams in the NBA playoffs.
Right now, I don't care who it

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is. Take Cleveland if you want
you recognize I assume just how far away

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they are, right, I mean, you're not catching you're not catching.

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You mentioned Cleveland and New York,
and New York could struggle the last couple

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of games in their series against Indiana. Take Indiana if you want detruch,

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and not even close to that,
because they don't have the depth that these

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teams have. They just don't.
Yeah, and you know what, check

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you mentioned the Tigers of eighty four. You know one of my you know

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we're similar age, one of my
favorite teams of all time. But when

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you look at the eighty four Tigers, you could look at the eighty one

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and the eighty two Tigers and you
could say, you know what, I

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can see what's happening there. I
can see that these guys it's not a

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matter of if, it's just a
matter of when, because you know that

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they're going to be good. They
just need a piece or two. The

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pistons are they are a hot mess, and they don't they need all the

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pieces. And you know, after
five or six years of you know,

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mediocrity to just awfulness, that just
should not be the case. And I

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think that that's why, and I
think Wildjo actually wrote this last week.

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You just need to put the whole
thing in a dumpster, can blow it

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all up and start all over against
You can't do worse. Yeah, and

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he's right about that. I've said
this for a long time now, before

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that article and before we even talked. And thanks for the phone call,

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Danny. It's great stuff. I
would keep two guys. There's two guys

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that I really want, Kate Cunningham
and Jalen Durham. Everybody else I'm open.

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Come to me with a great offer
and let's move on. I'm not

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married to them. Here's what I
would tell you about the eighty four Tigers,

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and yes, it culminated in a
championship. They won one hundred and

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four games that year. They were
the best team in baseball and it wasn't

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even close. In nineteen seventy eight, you saw this team start to turn

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the corner. They went from seventy
four wins in seventy seven to eighty six

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wins in seventy eight. Seventy nine, they had eighty five wins the following

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year. No, I think it
was nineteen eighty one. Eighteen eighty one

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they were sixty and forty nine,
okay, because that was a strike shortened

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season. Eighty two they win eighty
three games, eighty three they lose to

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Baltimore near the end. Baltimore was
so good that year. Detroit had ninety

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two wins that season. You saw
it coming over a six year span before

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it culminated in the championship. The
only thing that bothers me a little bit

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is I wish they could have kept
it going a little bit longer. I

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still think they were one of the
better teams going, but there was a

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time, Danny, there was a
time where people started to question certain members

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of that team and whether or not
they were a long term solution. Case

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in point, my good friend Kirk
Gibson, one of the best teammates I've

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ever worked with. It's been a
privilege. He hit two twenty seven in

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nineteen eighty three, and there were
people going red flag, red flag,

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and the blame game was going.
I obviously didn't have social media back then,

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didn't have sports talk show radio either, but there were a lot of

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people willing to give up on him
in nineteen eighty three when he struggled at

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the plate, and had they done
what many people perhaps wanted and moved on

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from him, they would have missed
a twot eighty two twenty seven homer ninety

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one RBI campaign in the World Championship. So there are there were signs.

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You and I remember them vividly.
It was fun to watch, it was

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exhilarating. It brought us together all
the great things. And then nineteen eighty

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seven was pretty damn good too,
and they won ninety eight games. But

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there were times during that build up
that none of us knew was going to

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culminate in a championship. We were
hopeful, but we didn't know. There

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were times during that time, during
that build up where players were questioned,

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the direction was questioned. Bill Ljoy
was questioned to keep that crew together at

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a certain time in that team's history, hoping, wondering whether or not it's

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going to be a championship caliber team. I don't think the Pistons are there.

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That's not the point of the example. What the example is is our

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young guys growing together. We don't
see that with the Pistons. Let's use

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the example of the Pistoons. When
you get Isaiah Thomas, and then you

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had Joe Dumars, and you had
Dennis Rodman, and you add John Sally.

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Those were the guys who were the
core drafted players that the team used

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for its championship run, multiple championship
run, competing for championships, built completely

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different than the two thousand and four
World Championship Piston team. Maybe this team

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can't do that. Maybe this team
can't use the young players that they have

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right now as that core build.
Maybe there's only two guys, maybe you

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think it's three. Maybe one of
the guys isn't even on this team.

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My frustration is you're gonna get a
fifth overall pick. You're gonna get another

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young guy. So I wouldn't have
a problem with Dalton connect at least we've

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seen him at the NCAA level and
he's a little bit older twenty two to

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twenty three. Let's see how he
addresses a need for this team instead of

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going to get another forum player at
age nineteen who we have no idea and

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you're gonna have to wait three four
years if that, to get it done.

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I think Danny and other people's point
are valid. This team has improven

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that it's got the right direction.
They haven't made the right moves. They

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need to make more than one right
move to be more entertaining and more competitive.

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Thanks to all of you for the
calls today. They were great.

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Man really enjoyed it. This is
fun stuff. I hope you can join

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us again tomorrow. Well, we
appreciate the text as well and our thanks

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