1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:17,719 Made a decision face sunny sun on I had What's up? Everybody? Welcome 2 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,719 to our special guest episode of the Week with Jimmy Pardo, Never Not Funny 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:28,359 podcast host of Never Not Funny. Yes, Hello, I was taken aback. 4 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:31,359 I was putting a drink down I got and I panicked. I pandoshed 5 00:00:31,399 --> 00:00:36,479 like I've never done radio before or podcasting. I thought the way he looked 6 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,439 at you, it was like, that's not what my podcast I think it 7 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,840 is. I gotta be honest, here's what I thought was gonna happen. 8 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,320 And now that we put it on me, I thought there was a uh 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,000 there was more coming, and you just kind of stopped. And then I 10 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:53,359 was like, oh, I guess okay, I'll jump in, so I 11 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:59,000 will take full blame. Uh because I'm a failure in life as a husband, 12 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:02,280 as a father. So here we go. I could have said, 13 00:01:02,479 --> 00:01:07,200 uh, you know, podcast pioneer, sure be doing comedian Yes, writer, 14 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:11,599 No, that's the one thing I'm really not the No, I'm not. 15 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,719 I I don't have that skill. That's the one skill I don't have. 16 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:19,439 And uh, uh boy do I wish I had it? But because 17 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,400 I envy the guys that that can tighten the screws on things and and uh 18 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:26,319 and write great jokes. But I can't do that. All right, Let's 19 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,480 let's go back to the beginning. Okay, because I know you from stand 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:37,480 up million years ago, Yes, which you're why are what writing? Will? 21 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:42,760 Yes? I mean one would argue I write on stage if we're going 22 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,680 to get into the nooks and grannies of a stand up. I don't sit 23 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:49,200 down. I I don't. It's been probably thirty years as I sent out 24 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:52,680 sat down at a desk to write a piece of material because I don't know 25 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,319 how to do that. And when I when I did it, it looks 26 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,239 like a twelve year old kid's journal. Like it's horrible, it's not funny, 27 00:01:59,359 --> 00:02:00,719 it's not in your hating. There's I don't know, there's like no 28 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,239 jokes. You would think like this port son of a bitch isn't gonna be 29 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,759 in comedy, Like it's that bad. So I just I improvised. I 30 00:02:07,639 --> 00:02:12,599 improvised most of my set. So from the beginning, like from the get 31 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,240 go, did you get up on stage and not have did you just have 32 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,479 like, oh, here's some funny ideas. I had funny ideas yeah, 33 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,319 And and then I, as an open micer, got really loose and would 34 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,639 be kind of their words, not mine, kind of the king of the 35 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,599 open mics around Chicago, Like I would be the guy, uh that would 36 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:32,240 go up and kill because I would just improvise and just be funny. And 37 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,560 then I got when I so I started getting bookings and were you to a 38 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:42,520 lot of Chicago. Uh, there's there's a big spot. But I avoid 39 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,319 I did. I did take classes that right out of high school. But 40 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,479 I did. And to this day I wonder if I was the if I'm 41 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,879 the most famous guy to come out of my class, and if so, 42 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,199 uh, it's a shame for the rest or did somebody else in my class, 43 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,199 like I don't know, Like was I in class with Tina Fey And 44 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,800 I don't know it? You know what I mean? Like, but so 45 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:06,199 I did improv as a as an open micer, got booked, wasn't ready 46 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,080 to be booked, should not have been booked way too soon, quit my 47 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,439 jay job way too soon, and then took it very seriously, like stupid 48 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:15,560 seriously, and went, well, now I got to write an act. 49 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,680 I have to have an act. They're paying me money, and it sucked. 50 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,479 It was horrible for years. It was horrible, really, but I 51 00:03:22,479 --> 00:03:25,800 could work around it and do the Johnny Carson the joke bombed, I can 52 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,759 save it with the improv and and be funny with that and do some crowd 53 00:03:29,759 --> 00:03:31,719 work and stuff. And before CrowdWork, all of a sudden, it's the 54 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,439 thing to do for people. I don't know what's happening stand up these days. 55 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:38,439 But so this was still in Chicago. This was in Chicago. Yeah, 56 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:43,280 I was there for I. I'll give you the timeline. My first 57 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,439 open mic was October of eighty eight. I quit my day job. I 58 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:47,840 got my first booking in March of eighty nine. I quit my day job 59 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:51,439 in July of eighty nine, so I wasn't even a year in. And 60 00:03:51,479 --> 00:03:54,879 I quit because I had all I quit a great job at MCA Records, 61 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,039 the record label. Yeah, and then what were you doing that? It 62 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,800 was a sales rep and uh, but it was the dream job. I 63 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,000 had been in record stores and then it was a dream job to work for 64 00:04:06,039 --> 00:04:09,120 a record label, at least for me. It was at the time to 65 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,840 and I'm hanging out with Elton John and uh, Tom Petty and all these 66 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,120 you know, the mc A. Uh my friend passed away who worked at 67 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,360 mc A record, Jennifer Popkins. No, no, but I wish I 68 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,079 did it. Were you out there in Chicago? But we had uh yeah, 69 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,360 we were coming to Universal Studios for the big convention every year. Yeah, 70 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:33,560 and so I got to meet the other mc A people. Uh maybe 71 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:38,360 it was you know. It was amazingly it was a crazy job. I'm 72 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,560 hanging out with rockstar. I want that job now, I know, right, 73 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,399 going to and make it a making a ton of money. And I 74 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,079 quit that to do comedy, to make one hundred fifty bucks a week. 75 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,360 What and here we are, So why did you have to quit whit? 76 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:55,079 Why couldn't you do both? Oh, I'll tell you why. My boss 77 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,959 one day, guy named Jim Haldeman, not the guy that worked for Nixon, 78 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,879 he to this. I don't understand this. He was hated. Everybody 79 00:05:01,879 --> 00:05:05,279 in the office hated him. I didn't thought it was fine. Uh. 80 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:06,879 In fact, I want to meet I want to meet up with one of 81 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:11,800 those people someday and have them explain to me why everybody hated Jim Holdering, 82 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,199 because I really, to this day don't know why. But he came to 83 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,720 me and he said, you know, we have to have a meeting. 84 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:20,399 All right, here's the deal. And by the way, he's not wrong. 85 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:24,000 I was not doing my job. I was. I was using my 86 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,040 office to book comedy gigs like I was, and then I wasn't going to 87 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:30,079 my accounts because I would. I would be doing gigs at night, either 88 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:33,680 open mics or paid. And so he said, you have to make a 89 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,800 decision. You have to decide between stand up or this, and you know, 90 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,319 because this is a real job. And I said, okay, give 91 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,360 me to all the morning. And he looked like I was out of my 92 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,879 mind, like what No, the answer is, you're going to stay here. 93 00:05:47,879 --> 00:05:53,000 What are you doing? And everybody in the office had come to see 94 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,079 me to stand up maybe two weeks prior, and I bombed at Death of 95 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,000 all deaths, like one of those bombs where like they wouldn't make eye contact 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,879 with me on Monday, like it was that f and back I got drunk 97 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,680 at the Christmas party. Yes, it was. It was that horrible, 98 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,079 right, And so the next day I came in and I told my boss 99 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:11,480 I was I was gonna quit. I was gonnaet my two week notice. 100 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,439 And so we're having our morning meeting around the conference table, and my boss 101 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,920 said, all right, before we get started, I want to let you 102 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,360 know I was Jim at the time. Jim is just giving his two week 103 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,519 notice he's going to pursue a career in stand up comedy. And the look 104 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:28,920 on everybody's face was like, what this is it? Right? He can't 105 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,639 He's horrible. What are we talking about? He can't do that? And 106 00:06:31,519 --> 00:06:34,879 here I am so and I don't know what they're doing again, I don't 107 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:41,279 Maybe they're all gazillionaires with app companies. I don't know. So it's funny 108 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:45,560 because when I was when I first moved to LA and for a while I 109 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,000 was doing temp work, and my dream like I would tempt at Warner brother 110 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:54,839 Records, oh RCA, like these different record companies, you know, sometimes 111 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:57,759 just for a day, but it was like, oh I I tempted at 112 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,120 RCAA Records for six months. Yeah, for a guy named Bruce Floor who 113 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:03,839 was like a big an R attended the A and R department, and I 114 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:09,879 was like a dream. Yes, got so much free shit all the time, 115 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,240 and I was like, oh God, if I could just convince one 116 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:15,759 of these bosses to like, I would take any job here, and I 117 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:19,399 never I never did. Every single time. I'd be like, if there's 118 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,399 ever an opening, like, I'll do anything here, I'll work in the 119 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:26,959 mail room. No, never, never got I mean, I can't believe 120 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,920 that you had that job, am, and I had it and obviously threw 121 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,800 it away, but not really because I had my quote unquote dreams. But 122 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,959 I didn't work out for you. No. No, I'm having a tough 123 00:07:35,959 --> 00:07:39,439 time. I'm trying to give back. I hope the record business comes back 124 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:42,360 so they'll hire me again. I was not. I was. I was 125 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,519 twenty twenty when they hired me at MCA, and so when I walked in, 126 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,079 I was a kid. Yeah, and these old you know, these 127 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,120 older folks that have been there for years, like and some people didn't get 128 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,600 a promotion to the job that I was hired for, oh sadly, and 129 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,439 they were mad at me, like, who's this kid that just came walks 130 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:03,920 in and gets this job, not knowing that I would easily have switched with 131 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:05,160 them. I would have been the guy to go to record stores and put 132 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,959 up posters. I would have been happy to do that job for less money, 133 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,519 because they're right, that's fun. There's no you know, there's no 134 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:16,439 quotas, there's no sales meetings, there's none of that, and uh so 135 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,839 it was it was a weird time. I mean I loved it because again 136 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,160 from as you know stuff, from the experience of working there, it's the 137 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,800 record business and I love I mean, that's my thing. I'm in the 138 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,120 eighties music and classic rock. So I got to work during that time and 139 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,600 uh yeah, okay, So so you stay in Chicago, you're making like 140 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:37,399 a gig money. Yeah, I get a hundred free bucks a week and 141 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,360 then you but things are going well. I mean I'm working every week, 142 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,399 but I'm doing horrible gigs. I'm doing you know, I'm not doing the 143 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:48,200 A clubs because I'm not good yet. But I'm getting booked every week. 144 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:52,320 So I have the delusion that I'm I don't know, I guess I was 145 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,559 successful. I mean, I'm being getting paid to do my dream. But 146 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,879 what was your first TV show? Oh? First TV show was Caroline's Comedy 147 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:03,679 Hour. Yeah the Evening, Yeah ninety two. We were at the same 148 00:09:03,799 --> 00:09:07,600 like we started around the scene. Where did you start? I probably did 149 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:11,159 my first time on stage maybe like eighty nine, okay for eighty eight, 150 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,399 right, so yeah, right in the same ballpark. And did you do 151 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,960 Carolines as well? I did not, but I did Evening at the end 152 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:22,320 half was Yeah. My very first TV thing was star Search what. Yeah, 153 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,440 I did star Search and I did tear. I didn't do well up 154 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:30,399 against remember Keith Michael Ashton remember that name. I don't Taylor Swift. She's 155 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,879 not a comedian. Sorry, although wonderful, but if she what if she 156 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:35,360 did do stand up like what and she beat? You had to go up 157 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:39,879 against your own category, yeah, comedy. Yeah, so I got two 158 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,039 and three quarter stars. It was very embarrassing. I didn't even have a 159 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:46,000 bad set. Two three quarters isn't bad on there, It's pretty bad out 160 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,080 of four at a four, yeah, it was bad. You're up against 161 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,080 the three to name. He dude, he can't. You can't compete three 162 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,840 and a half stars. Yeah. So I lost on my very first first 163 00:09:56,879 --> 00:10:03,200 like night, like first time. So you were just starting had been doing 164 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,279 it a couple of years. That's still you're still you know that, you're 165 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:11,360 still green, you're still finding your voice. It was still my open set, 166 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:13,960 right, But and then my next TV show was Evening at the Improv. 167 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:16,200 So I'm with you Yeah, okay, So and how did that go? 168 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,080 Uh, Caroline Fine, I guess I don't know, nervous, Oh 169 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:22,200 sure, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It was one of the I 170 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,120 don't know how you felt in your first TV experience. Mine was like like 171 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:28,279 one of those out of body experiences, like I don't remember being on stage 172 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,360 and then I had to wait until it came on TV so I could remember 173 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,240 kind of what happened that night. But I think it went okay. I 174 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,279 mean, for where I was as a comic, I think I was in 175 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:43,360 my uh I'm finding I'm still kind of finding my voice stage. That was 176 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:46,720 still pretty early on. I'm only three years in, I guess at that 177 00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:48,759 point, maybe three and a half years. And uh, I had a 178 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:52,440 little bit of Dennis Leary in me at that time, so I had a 179 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,399 lot of I got two words for you do do you know? You know 180 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,360 with with you know, no punchline, just you know, ranting and and 181 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:05,840 I I take down Berry Madelow in that set for some reason. I love 182 00:11:05,919 --> 00:11:07,919 that. I love Barry madelone. We get hurt, Barry Berry get hurt 183 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,360 the middle By set for no reason whatsoever. It was about the whole thing 184 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:16,879 about the suicide. Remember when they blamed Judas Priest for those kids that committed 185 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:20,960 suicide with the back masking, And so I said, you know, that's 186 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,159 why everythink I don't remember the premise. That's why it's on CD. That's 187 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:26,080 why I listen to music on CD because I'm going to tell you so I'm 188 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,200 gonna kill myself. I want to listen to Berry Manelone, Nice and Crisp 189 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,360 before I say whatever the joke was. And it killed at the time. 190 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:35,600 But then I was like, I would go back to my hotel and go, 191 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,759 why am I hurting Berry Madeline. I like that guy. I like 192 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:41,320 his music. I like, you know, he's a great entertainer. But 193 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:43,919 I had to be hip and cool and yeah that's all. Yeah, I 194 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,519 went. I saw him in concert, not that long ago. I tell 195 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,639 you something like in the last two years. I've seen him four times. 196 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:52,519 In the last two years. My son and I've gone Hollywood Bowl. Yeah, 197 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:56,279 we were there, Hollywood Bowl, the Greek We went to see his 198 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,559 Christmas show, my son and I, which is the delight because it's all 199 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,960 of Barry, those hits and Christmas songs. Hell wouldn't like that. It's 200 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,480 a joy come a long way come full circle on this. Yes, so 201 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:13,320 okay, so you're this is still in Chicago. I'm still in Chicago this 202 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,799 I did not move to Los Angeles still ninety five? Okay, when you 203 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,600 moved to LA and what brought you out here? I did a showcase for 204 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:26,440 CBS Television in Detroit for a guy named Eric Fagan, who you might remember. 205 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,240 I remember, yeah, book, the improv book gave the improv for 206 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,960 a while. Yes, he was doing a talent search for CBS. Saw 207 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,600 me in Detroit, said hey, we're doing this again next week in Chicago. 208 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:39,200 I want to see you again in Chicago, because here's what happened. 209 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,039 The first night I went up and a guy named Kirk Noland decided not to 210 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:46,440 do seven minutes but to do twenty and destroyed, like blew the roof off 211 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,279 the place, and I had to follow him, and I'm chewing it. 212 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:54,600 I'm bombing miserably, and then I just went f this and just started ragging 213 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:58,799 on the night like how stupid the The whole premise was like that we're all 214 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:03,519 hoping that this one man can make our dreams come true, and all of 215 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,759 a sudden it switched, and all of a sudden, the audience loved me 216 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,360 and I'm killing and I came off and he said that again, I want 217 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,919 to see in Chicago, but since that's that was all improvised, I want 218 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:15,840 to see you do a real set in Chicago, and I had a prime 219 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,320 spot in Chicago destroyed. He got me a meeting with CBS. It didn't 220 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,240 amount to anything, but then he wanted he became my manager. And then 221 00:13:24,279 --> 00:13:26,559 he said, uh, but you know, in order to manage, you 222 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:28,399 got to move to LA and so I move. I was planning of moving 223 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:33,639 here in ninety six, but then his management him managing. We moved in 224 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:37,600 ninety five, and I moved here in late January of ninety five. He 225 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,200 had a nervous breakdown in March ninety five and quick the mistrsy, really, 226 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:43,320 what I think dispressive handling my career. So it took him down. Oh 227 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:46,919 my god, that's crazy, I know. So then all of a sudden, 228 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:48,600 I'm out here was like, oh, no guidance, nothing like, 229 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,840 what do I do do I I don't know how to go to I mean, 230 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,039 I'm I know how to do this, but I didn't know how to 231 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,320 do this because going to the improv of the comedy store in the laugh Factory 232 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,440 that seemed like like real comedy as opposed to what I had been doing, 233 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,399 and so I needed Without the guidance, it took me a little while to 234 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,840 find my footing, but a lot of booze helped with that. I bet 235 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:15,000 been sober twenty four years? You did I know that? I think maybe 236 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:18,120 because you're sober long time. I'm sober fourteen years, graduations going on fifteen, 237 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,600 Yeah, thank you, And I'm going on twenty five. Wow, 238 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:24,519 I didn't know that. Yeah, I was a I was a drunk for 239 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:30,159 most of the nineties. Wow, the same Yeah, yeah, yeah it 240 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,519 yeah, you know, I mean it's comedies lonely and yeah, and this 241 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,919 town could be a little scary and yeah. I have a whole chapter in 242 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:45,120 my book that I'm going to come on your podcast for to talk about drunkish. 243 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,200 It's a whole It's a whole book about getting sober. And I have 244 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,639 a whole chapter about stand up you do and the relationship to drinking and how 245 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:56,600 I blamed a lot of my drinking on stand up, like, well, 246 00:14:56,879 --> 00:15:01,120 I have to drink because like I need it to so hard to be a 247 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:03,879 comedian. I had a lot of stage fright. I don't I don't know 248 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:05,559 about you, but I had. I never I had a lot of anxiety. 249 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,720 And I never loved the performing part. I only liked the having been 250 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:15,440 on stage, and I liked the I liked writing the jokes and I but 251 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,519 it was I hated the idea that you just never knew if you were going 252 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:22,279 to bomb, Like the feeling of bombing is so awful. It was horrible 253 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,600 that I had to always like anesthetize myself against so that I wouldn't feel it 254 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:31,480 as much because you know, but then you also don't ever get used to 255 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,360 performing. Really, crisp, No, your numb the whole time, right, 256 00:15:35,399 --> 00:15:37,039 and you're, yeah, that's a great way to put it. Sorry, 257 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:41,320 I mofflick that you're not performing, Crisp, that's a great way to 258 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,039 put it. And I felt the same way, like I kind of I 259 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,679 would have a beer on stage, and I don't know if I needed it 260 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,759 as much as it was a crutch, like like like just something to hold 261 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:54,200 on to. And and then I started drinking enough where I was getting a 262 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,159 little tipsy on stage. And then when I did quit, all of a 263 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,679 sudden, it was like performing crisply and oh, this is how it's supposed 264 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,600 to be, and all of a sudden, you know, I'm sharper and 265 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:08,039 I'm funnier and I'm faster and nice. But I do I blame it a 266 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,320 little bit on stand stand up, on my drinking as well, but mostly 267 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:17,879 the after the show of being alone and not really having any you know, 268 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,600 you have the other comics to hang out with, but they were all getting 269 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:22,799 drunk too. You're at the comedy club. They're giving you free drinks until 270 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:26,240 they close because there are a bunch of twenty two year old kids that manage 271 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,000 a club like So it was really more out of boredom, but I took 272 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:33,720 full advantage of it. Yeah, and uh and drank a lot. Well 273 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:38,440 let's let's take a quick break and then we'll be back. And we're back. 274 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:42,759 So you got sober at a time where a lot of comedians got sober. 275 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:45,120 I feel like, yeah, I feel like there's a lot. I 276 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,639 feel like there's a big group of you. I'm not going to out anybody, 277 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:52,559 but I'm just saying like, around your time, there's a bunch. 278 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:56,960 Yeah, there's like a lot of sober very Yeah, I wonder who they 279 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,000 are. And to them, I'd like to wrestle with them. I think 280 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:03,360 that's the best way to handle this is right that we get on the map. 281 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:04,640 He just takes it, take it down, take it down. Okay, 282 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,319 so you're so you're doing stand up. Yeah, now you're starting to 283 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:11,799 get TV gigs. He did the Tonight Show. You've done the Tonight Show. 284 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:15,200 Tonight Show. It's going to be twenty five years ago, which is 285 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,519 insane. Two thousand and two. I was the third comic on after nine 286 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:21,279 to eleven. I believe it was really I believe. I think it was 287 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:25,119 Drew Hastings, Tammy Pascattellian then me, I believe, and those two got 288 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,680 standing ovations. Hastings is out of his skull. Yeah, got hysterical, 289 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:32,720 but now he's nuts. Oh my god. He was the funniest, funniest 290 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,519 guy. I went to see his one man He did a one man show. 291 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,160 Great, right, right, Yeah, this guy Drew Hastings, who 292 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,559 so like I've you will laugh so hard watching his act. But he went 293 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,680 like off the deep end. He he became the mayor of a town in 294 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,359 Ohio. Yes, and and then he just he got so far to the 295 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:59,039 right that he's like very openly like racist and he's nuts. He's n He 296 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,240 was always good servative, but now that you know, the doors of it 297 00:18:02,319 --> 00:18:07,039 opened for these whack jobs to say they're you know, call people vermin. 298 00:18:07,559 --> 00:18:11,200 Uh it he's one of them. He's gone crazy. Yeah, he used 299 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,279 to call me all the time, Jebby. I got a problem. I 300 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,920 booked in Michigan, but I've just been offered a gig down at Kentucky. 301 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,160 Do I take the higher paying or do I hotter the contract? I'd go, 302 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,839 Drew, I don't know under a contract or take that. I don't 303 00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:26,160 know what do I know? And if you should be a lot of help, 304 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,480 then you hang up on me. Uh that wasn't one time a Gurdrew 305 00:18:30,519 --> 00:18:33,880 hasting suppression. But I was gonna say they they got standing ovations and I 306 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,240 bombed miserably. It was horrible. What ohs horrible? I love stories. 307 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:44,000 Horrible, sorry, but so okay, so you're I mean, it's hard 308 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,480 to bomb on TV. But it was because it was after no you know 309 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:52,279 what you know, I don't know what it was the show just he must 310 00:18:52,319 --> 00:18:56,559 have been so nerve, like who was hew it was? And Jay went 311 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,359 up and his monologue, I mean if if he got one last during his 312 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,079 monologue, I'm exaggerating. If bombed miserably, it was okay, So then 313 00:19:03,079 --> 00:19:08,319 you're in good company. And then they had Dane Cook to a remote on 314 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Universal CityWalk, like, hey, let's go to Dane to do like a 315 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:15,240 version of Jay Walking, but his own Dane version, you know, tank 316 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:22,440 top wearing a way to go and bro backward hat wearing, nonsense. I'm 317 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,920 not a Dane basher, but this thing bomb. So Jay bombs Danes things 318 00:19:27,279 --> 00:19:32,240 things bomb. I'm in the makeup chair and Jay comes backstage and he's yelling 319 00:19:32,279 --> 00:19:34,680 at somebody and the and the make up lady closes the door and goes, 320 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,720 oh, that never happens, but I go really goes no, Jay never 321 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:41,359 yells at people. And I'm like, oh, well, this's but a 322 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,559 great night to be here. And then the first guest was like this mad 323 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,519 scientist or something who you know, taught us how to make something with crackers 324 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:52,160 and making soda, like you know that stupid stuff. For j what are 325 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,559 you doing over there? Are you crackers and what you could do? And 326 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,319 uh? And so that bombs. And then Marissa Tome was on and she 327 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:04,599 saw the mad scientist got first building before Yeah, Dennis Larry canceled last minute, 328 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,279 and they got this guy. So there's two segments with this professor that's 329 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,559 chewing it now. Oh no. And then Marsa Toma goes up and she 330 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,319 was promoting some drama. I forget that drama was a great drama where her 331 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,240 husband dies and she's got to live with her in laws and its remember that 332 00:20:18,279 --> 00:20:22,079 movie. It was really great. I can't and she was great, okay, 333 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:26,759 and in the movie. And so then I'm looking at the clock and 334 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:30,279 I'm like, oh, this audience blows. Uh. Oh, they're gonna 335 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:32,559 bump me. Oh I hope they bumped me. Oh, they got to 336 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:34,319 bump me. There's no there's no time for my set. And they come 337 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,440 back Ross Mark and oh, I forget the other guy's name, Bob Reid. 338 00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:41,480 They come back and they go, Okay, here's the deal. Uh, 339 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:44,440 there's four and a half minutes left your set, Timmy out of four 340 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,960 and half minutes. Uh, if it goes any longer, we're gonna give 341 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,200 you the cut sign and just stop and whatever joke you're at. Oh no 342 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,839 on television, And I go, well, how about this, fellas, 343 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:56,160 how about if we just bumped me right, you know, and and he 344 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,039 goes, Jay doesn't want to do another segment with Marisa Tome and I'm like, 345 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,319 okay, that's fair. The first segment was a snooze, and so 346 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,079 I went up in my first two minutes and I'm not kidding you. Hear 347 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:11,400 my wife and my friend Mike, and that's it. Oh no. And 348 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,279 then the last two minutes were okay, but there was no worry of me 349 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,039 going over my time. I'm not getting any laughs to fill it. And 350 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:19,720 then I come over and Jay's like, yeah, you good yad give me 351 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:25,359 and uh. And then Marissa doesn't know how to move, and he goes, 352 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,039 hey, mer, sir, mayland over Jimmy there, and then I 353 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:32,480 sit down and they will begin to go get anybody. And then Jay doesn't 354 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:34,799 say a word to me. Uh from that second until this day. Oh 355 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:41,960 real, yeah, wow. He can never get another chance, never get 356 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,480 another bite at that apple. But they claimed that I could come back anytime 357 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,960 I wanted to. But the fact that here's the thing, Jay was Jay 358 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,519 didn't bond with me after the show, Like no, I'm not saying we 359 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:56,359 should go off for drinks, but I'm saying his fellow comedians. He should 360 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,880 have taken a second to go, hey, you know what they're they're great, 361 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:00,759 best crowd, but you know what, this stuff was good. You 362 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:04,279 know he should have said something instead, he iced me as if like he 363 00:22:04,319 --> 00:22:08,559 wanted to distance himself from how bad my set was. And I think that's 364 00:22:08,599 --> 00:22:12,920 a dickhead move. I just wasn't so to this day, I'm not thrilled 365 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,640 with Jay. That's not cool. But then so you ended up at Conan? 366 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,000 I did, Yeah? Was that shortly after? No? That was 367 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:26,920 well, that was two thousand and two, and then I did you know 368 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,279 Conan came in two thousand and nine when he moved when he took over the 369 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,599 Night Show. When Conan moved from New York to LA, two days before 370 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,519 we were doing a test show at Universal with the Night Show starting ConA to 371 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:44,240 Brian. I got a phone call saying, do you want to do warm 372 00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:45,839 up? And my answer was no, I do not want to do warm 373 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,799 up. I've come out here to host, not be somebody's warm up. 374 00:22:49,319 --> 00:22:53,400 And my managers like, take the meeting, and then I took the meeting 375 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:56,680 and like I'm sitting at the meeting going, well, why do I not 376 00:22:56,759 --> 00:23:00,359 take this job? I mean, growing up, my dream was a host 377 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,680 of the Tonight Show. And here I am, I'm gonna get to be 378 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:06,599 on the Tonight Show stage every single night. I'm not on camera, but 379 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,359 who knows, maybe I will, right, And so I took the gig 380 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,000 doing warm up for the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien. We lasted well on 381 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,720 nine months, and then we all got fired because Jay wanted his job back. 382 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:26,640 And those headlines I can read themselves, and it was great and I 383 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:32,079 found I found the right people, and working for Conan was a delight, 384 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,440 and that we had the seven months off in between the Tonight Show and then 385 00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:41,240 him on TBS and where they graciously paid me out of their pocket. Wow, 386 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,440 Like they didn't have to. I was a local higher They could have 387 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,759 just said, you know what, things happened show business. But they took 388 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:48,680 care of me the same way they took care of the New York people. 389 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:51,599 And because you know, they all moved out here about homes and stuff, 390 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,960 and thought, like I thought, it's the Tonight Show, We're gonna have 391 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,279 a job for thirty years, right, And then nine months later we're like, 392 00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:02,960 oh wow, so uh. And then we went to TBS and the 393 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:07,559 vibe was completely different. It was much looser. I found my footing. 394 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,880 I ended up uh doing some remotes for Conan, being a guest filling in 395 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:18,200 for Andy Richter, so like it's it was Getting hired by Conan of Brian 396 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:21,519 honestly was the greatest thing to happen to me and very very grateful for that 397 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:26,759 job. That's awesome. Yeah. So what year did you start your podcast? 398 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,160 You have a big podcast. Yeah, it's it's very uh successful. 399 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,279 Also, I want to talk about this thing that you do, which is 400 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:40,119 for charity, the Smile Train. Uh. He does as like a telethon, 401 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,920 like a twelve hour telethon. Yeah, yes, how did that? 402 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:47,200 How did you come up with that? Made you? Were you already like 403 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:52,279 interested in this charity were? Yes? Uh? I want to hear about 404 00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:55,559 this because it's such a cool thing and it's been really successful and you've been 405 00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,759 doing it for a long time. Yeah. We've raised one point five million 406 00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:02,839 bucks for that. Wow. And that's I mean that's the fans that donate 407 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,279 the money, you know, I mean that's yeah, But you're still doing 408 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:07,240 it, so it's all of me. I'm the hero, there's no question, 409 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,839 and you're welcome children. Smile Train is a great organization that goes to 410 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,920 third world countries and does the surgeries of fixed cleft palates, right, and 411 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,559 each surgery only costs tw hundred and fifty bucks. So basically, if you 412 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,039 donate tw hundred and fifty dollars, you could change a child's life. And 413 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,599 I saw that honestly on the back of Parade magazine, really and I donated 414 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,200 money. And then a guy who used to be involved with our show and 415 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,480 he's not anymore, named Pat France as my former roommate, he came in 416 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:36,640 just coincidentally that day and said, hey, I just donated money to this 417 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,680 Smile Train, and I said, I just don't need the money to Smile 418 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,720 Train, And so then that happened, and then we're talking one day. 419 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:47,200 Like you know, podcasting was still kind of fine. We were all trying 420 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,039 to kind of finding our footing. I mean it was, you know, 421 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:52,400 it's me and Adam and and and the Onion and Ricky Gervais. That was 422 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,519 kind of it. And so like we would I was the number one podcast 423 00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:57,039 in the world at one point, and I think I think now I'm number 424 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,279 one and twelve or something like. It's you know, those are early days. 425 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:03,960 There were early days, and SmartLess is of course just crushing us all. 426 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,400 So we were just honestly just trying to find a gimmick and a and 427 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,039 a hook. So I when you started it, like, I just want 428 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:17,920 to go back for a second, because when you started the podcast, was 429 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,839 it just was it just you? It was me and a guy named Mett 430 00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:23,039 Bell who was still my co host and producer, met Bell Nap. He 431 00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:26,559 came to me and said, I was doing a live show at the UCB 432 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,680 Theater, a live talk show, okay, And Matt came to me. 433 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,240 He was just a fan and he said, hey, would you want to 434 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,880 do a podcast? You know, I'll produce it and you do it. 435 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,480 And I'm like, yeah, I don't know what that is, okay, 436 00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:41,720 because I was always behind on any sort of trend that was happening. Face, 437 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,720 how about old man? Don't my daughter tells me about about new social 438 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:52,160 platforms like and I'm like, I don't even know. I was like, 439 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,680 oh, yeah, it's already, it's already over. I'm on yeah, 440 00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:59,279 yeah, that's uh. That was me with my Space. I'm in guys, 441 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:03,799 so scrahm uh So it was again it was a gimmick. I loved 442 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:07,440 growing up. I loved watching the Jury Lewis telethons and wondering, like, 443 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,559 who's gonna come out of four in the morning. Is it gonna be Stephen 444 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,400 eighty? Is it gonna be some horrible jugglers? Who's gonna be on? 445 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,000 I love this, So I said, let's do that. Let's do it 446 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:18,599 all night sort of. So we started Our first one was in two thousand 447 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,599 and nine. We started at nine o'clock PM and went to six a m. 448 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,880 And we had people like John Hamm came by and uh and stayed like 449 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,680 for six hours. Yeah, it was it was uh uh. We love 450 00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:33,680 John's John has been a great friend to me and our show for since we 451 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,400 since then, since like two thousand and eight. He was really funny, 452 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,720 and he was great. He's funny in everything. Yeah, and when he 453 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:45,000 does drama he's great. Yes, Oh my god, I mean he was 454 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,400 so great and madmen, but like, but he's also just so funny. 455 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,079 Yes, it's infuriating. Yeah, it's so so handsome to be that funny. 456 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:55,759 And I'd like him to suck at something and he does he doesn't. 457 00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:56,839 Hey, you want to go golfing? Oh, okay, and then he 458 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,200 you know, shoots pars like, come on, man, you gotta be 459 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:04,079 bad at something, right, are you in his football league? I am 460 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:08,359 not about a football guy. I'm not a football guy. But that's how 461 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,359 that started. Okay, So then you you did like sixs. So then 462 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,599 so we did that with that first one. I forget when we raised that 463 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,960 night. You know, it might have been just like six thousand dollars or 464 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,240 something. Live. Yeah, yeah, we streamed it lives okay, yeah, 465 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:25,720 which in two thousand and nine was yes, how do you go live? 466 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:29,519 You do? Yeah? On YouTube? Technically we could, I think, 467 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,680 yeah, So it was video you were going live? Like, yeah, 468 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,200 it was video. My brother in law, who since passed away, 469 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,559 was the video producer and he shot it, uh you know, and he 470 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,799 was there and he was our video producer for until he passed away in twenty 471 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,640 ten. So was it on YouTube? Then? I couldn't tell you. 472 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,039 For a million dollars, it was somewhere. I think it's on YouTube now 473 00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:52,920 when we do it, I don't I don't concern myself with the technical stuff 474 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,400 because I'm an idiot. I mean I am too. I don't understand any 475 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,599 of how it works, some of the before the shows up and talks. 476 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,559 That's it. And I mean I do other things, but I don't know 477 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,400 the technical stuff. Now. If if those guys both if Matt and now 478 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240 a guy named Elliot's the video guy, if they walked in today and said 479 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,599 we're sick of your shit, we're leaving, I would go great. Now 480 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,480 I'll make all the money. But I don't know how to do anything. 481 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,079 I would have to it would be a disaster. I wouldn't know what to 482 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:23,359 do. So you started the Smile Train telethon early early in the podcast, 483 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,240 yes, as a gimmick, as like, hey, let's get the map 484 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:32,079 to try to get just to try to get some pressed when yeah, you 485 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,559 raise money, yeah press. And it worked a little bit. It worked, 486 00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:37,519 you know. I think some people found us because of that, And 487 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:42,359 you know what, I don't know how many people found us because I'm pard 488 00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:47,319 castathon, but it's certainly been a success. And I'm very very grateful to 489 00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:49,839 the fans for donating the money and the celebrities that come by and hang out 490 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:53,400 with us. I have a different celebrity on every twenty minutes, and every 491 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,440 twenty minutes, yeah, and they come for free. In the middle of 492 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,759 the night when you're yeah, we do it now. We haven't done it 493 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,680 since before the We did one online during the pandemic, but we haven't done 494 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,720 it since twenty nineteen, I guess. But it would be uh, yeah, 495 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,839 they come on, we do it from noon to midnight. Okay. 496 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,119 So yeah, after a few years that I realized, Uh, why am 497 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,480 I doing this at four in the morning? Exactly? Why can't we Why 498 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,640 can't we shift this twelve hours when people are awake? Right? Right? 499 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,759 And well, because you had it in your mind I did. It's like 500 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,039 us that telethon, Yeah that you that if in the middle you stay up 501 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:33,119 as late as you can and then you wait, who's on? Yeah? 502 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,759 Right, yeah, but we saw like, oh, nobody's donating at three 503 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,599 thirty in the morning, right and nobody? So why don't we do this 504 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:44,000 when New York's awake? Why don't we do it when England can see at 505 00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:48,799 some point and smart? And it works? I mean it's been like I 506 00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:49,720 said, knock on wood, it's been successful, and I'm you know, 507 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:52,480 we ca raise that money for there are some of the other names you've had 508 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:57,839 on oh jeez, uh, Rob Ryder one of my Heroes. I was 509 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,720 thrilled to have rob On. Uh yeah, that was that was craziness. 510 00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:06,319 Uh. You know John, like I said, John's a regular Conan. 511 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,440 Used to do the show a lot. Now he's busy with his own thing. 512 00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:11,720 You know. We had Ace Frehley of Kiss, which was a big 513 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:17,200 wow. That's made a music nerd Uh. Jimmy Panco of Chicago. Kevin 514 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Corona of Ario Speedwagon saw that in your Bias and I got really jealous because 515 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,279 because I I love Ario Speedwagon. Well it's you know, it's the nostalgia. 516 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,720 Yes, I went to go see Ario Speedwagon, Lover Boy and Sticks 517 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:37,440 at the five Point in Irvine and I was I was like, there, 518 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:41,519 Ario Speedwagon hasn't missed a beat. Whit are you talking like this past summer? 519 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Yeah? I was there. Yeah, my son and I were there. 520 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,960 Oh. Yes. I become friendly with Tommy Shaw of Sticks because because 521 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,400 of the because of part Castathon, he came on one year via FaceTime, 522 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,839 and you know I did. I talked with Tommy Shaw again, a guy 523 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,119 that I had my I had his poster on my wall and now I'm facetiming 524 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:02,799 with him like I'm holding up the phone talking to him for the audience, 525 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,799 and uh we then became I don't want to say friends, because I think 526 00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:10,839 that's insanity to say that we are, but I friendly and so we'll text 527 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,200 from time to time. And so you know, whatever sticks is in town, 528 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,000 you know, my son and I go and Tommy treats us like royalty, 529 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,799 and so, uh yeah, I was there and I'm with you. 530 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:24,880 And so Tommy's done on the show, and and Kevin Crona. But the 531 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,920 thing Tommy was great. But the thing about Kevin was he's kind of just 532 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,720 a dad first and a musician second. So he was an amazing guest in 533 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:38,000 that we're talking about how the rules of horse, you know, the basketball 534 00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,079 game, and and then he would go, all right, great and then 535 00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:44,759 you play a song and it was it was mind blowing. It was a 536 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,640 yeah. And so to me, those are the dreams of having these you 537 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,079 know. You know, Paul Riser, who's a friend, has been on 538 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,559 many many times. But they had these guys that I grew up as you 539 00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:57,759 know, they were my heroes. Paul Riser was one of my comedy heroes. 540 00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:00,799 Rob Ryder was one of my comedy heroes. And then music, you 541 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,759 know, the guys from Kiss in Chicago and Sticks and Rio or my heroes. 542 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,319 So they have them come on my show. It just was like, 543 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:09,440 I'm amazing, It's a dream come true. Yeah, so cool. Yeah, 544 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,559 it's really neat. And I know that, you know, bigger shows 545 00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:15,599 that happens every day on their shows, and maybe they take it for granted. 546 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,599 I do not. I am honored that they took the time to come 547 00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:22,279 and visit with us. And it's always nice when people take the time to 548 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:27,400 come visit us. Right, So you're yeah, you're a dad. I 549 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,359 am a dad. You have a son, I do sixteen years old? 550 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,519 He's sixteen. Yeah. I didn't know he was older than my twins. 551 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,920 My twins are turning sixteen on the twenty sixth. Oh yeah, he turned 552 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,079 sixteen in September, so he just the same actially. Is he a sophomore? 553 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,759 He is a junior. Was a junior, yeah, because his birthday 554 00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:49,240 was on the whatever however that yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Oh interesting. 555 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,240 Okay, And you've been married to your lovely wife Danielle for how long? 556 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,680 It will be twenty years? So I guess it's nineteen years going on 557 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,759 twenty years. Oh that's okay. Did you get married. No, I'm 558 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:02,920 sorry, it's gonna be twenty five years. We got buried in two thousand 559 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,000 and four. Oh yeah, yeah, you'll be married twenty year. Yeah, 560 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,400 you've probably been together. We're together twenty five years. Oh my god, 561 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,360 should be same. When were you married? I got married in two 562 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,159 thousand and four February. You guys should have gotten married, do you think 563 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:20,119 so? You know what I'm in if you want to be Stephan, I 564 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,800 mean, necessarily if you want to. It's the point when your husband's going 565 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,159 and Danielle's gone, you want to make a pack dodge to tell you. 566 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,719 Rachel Quaintance is already number one. Oh, and then Janet and then jannef 567 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,440 Barney and Andrea Savage. Those are the three in front of me. Yeah. 568 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,400 You got a lot to work. Yeah, you got a hold Audi, 569 00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:36,400 that's yeah. You guys got sober at the same time. Yeah, 570 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,760 we started stand up at the same time. Yeah. I don't know what 571 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,119 year you were born, but we're probably closed six. What year? What 572 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:49,480 month? July? July? What July twenty eighth? Oh my oh, 573 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,199 this is banana times. We just had. Oh my god, let's say, 574 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:59,800 should we take another break? I wouldn't all right, we're back still 575 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,960 for out about all we have in common? Now, your wife Danielle is 576 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,440 super funny. I also did stand. I mean, she was like, 577 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,840 I think an open micro with me. Yeah, and on your talk show. 578 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,840 She was a writer on my talk show. And I just I mean, 579 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,119 I know that you're our guest right now, but I just want to 580 00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:22,039 say, Danielle is a freaking hilarious talented writer. So she so Lynette was 581 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:27,440 on my show too, she was in the circle time thing. So Danielle 582 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,400 came in as a writer and was so good and she was she was like 583 00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:37,000 handling my monologues and she was just a master at it. And it was 584 00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:39,440 a hard thing to do, which I know, sound it sounds that sounds 585 00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:42,880 kind of like, oh, it's just really hard to get my voice. 586 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,079 But there's you know, certain people can just lock into somebody's voice and then 587 00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:51,239 and so sometimes I'd have to go to Danielle after she was not working for 588 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,440 us anymore because she had taken another job. She would have come back, 589 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,639 but she guys had like a third season that she wasn't a part of. 590 00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,199 It brought her in as a consultant. No second season she was she was 591 00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:02,920 already working. She couldn't do it. What was she doing? She was 592 00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:07,760 something for Disney. Yes, so we asked her if she would consult, 593 00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:14,079 Like, we paid her extra because we needed her and she was doing this 594 00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:15,840 other job. She could not be full time on our show, so we 595 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,760 hired somebody else. But I would I would take monologues and she'd and I'd 596 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,960 be like, Danielle, can you fix this? And I'd send it to 597 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,920 her and she would send it back to me in like a couple hours, 598 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,559 and it would be like, that's funny, right, Yeah, she is. 599 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,920 She has an amazing talent to write in somebody else's voice, Like she's 600 00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,239 really really good at that. Yeah, and she's a solid joke writer. 601 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,920 She is amazing is a button? Yes, Well, then she must be 602 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,639 busy all the time because people like that usually have work. No, we're 603 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:52,880 coming out of a strike, so she's like a lot of folks is looking 604 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,880 at the moment. Yeah, but she should be hired by everybody in I 605 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,239 think she was amazingly talented. You met her doing stand up? I met 606 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,440 her at a at a friend's birthday party. Here's the romantic version. You 607 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,280 want the romantic version? No, sure, Okay, version. Oh no, 608 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,760 this is the real version. This is the real slash romantic version. 609 00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:14,119 It was that Saint Nick's, remember that bar, over on Thirs Street, 610 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,719 and it was my friend Mike Sigle's birthday party. And I walked in and 611 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,719 Mike very handsome man, very fairy. I walk in too, and there's 612 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:28,639 a photographs from this day looking horrible bloated, and my clothes are ill fitting, 613 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,559 like I just was a mess, and uh what ear? Oh what 614 00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:37,639 year would this have been? Well, daniel and I got together, so 615 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:43,800 maybe we didn't get to nineteen nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, I'm just working, 616 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,360 so late ninety six maybe, okay, maybe maybe ninety seven right in 617 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,960 that area. So I walk in, I see Mike, but behind Mike 618 00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:53,920 in the distance, I see your girl. She claims it was orange. 619 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,440 I claim it was red sweater. And I'm not kidding you. I said, 620 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,159 who is that girl? She's this beautiful girl I've ever seen. I 621 00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:05,599 will marry her someday. And then another guy who's gone nuts, Jimmy dor 622 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:09,119 came up, Hey, this is my girlfriend Danielle, And I was like 623 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:15,199 what what? And then I know I waited them out. Boyfriend, Yeah, 624 00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:17,400 for a little while and heed them out, they broke up. I 625 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,400 waited, I want to stay close to a year, and then I asked 626 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,880 her on a date and we have been together ever since. Wow, I 627 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,800 am forever grateful. She's the greatest. That's awesome, that is romantic. 628 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,599 And so she remembers meeting you though, even though she was already with Jimmy 629 00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,079 dor Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, how do you forget me? 630 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,000 I'm charming, I'm wonderful. So did she feel some sparks? But 631 00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:42,639 she was like, oh, I already boyfriend. I think Look, I 632 00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,880 don't know that, but I think that eventually there were, because there was. 633 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,280 We would to your point about stand up, we would run into each 634 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,760 other. We had the same management, so we'd run into each other at 635 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,719 stand up showcases and there was flirting, and there was uh. And then 636 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,360 I'd see her at auditions and there was flirting. And one time I ran 637 00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:00,360 her just by chance at a gas station and then there was flirting, and 638 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,360 like and a sudden my head going, I gotta ask her out. I 639 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,320 gotta ask this girl out. And I was like, but she's too good 640 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,199 for me, she's too pretty for me. She's this, she's that, 641 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,320 and then eventually I just asked her out and again here we are, what 642 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,440 twenty five years later. Wow, it's so funny that you say she was 643 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:21,639 wearing red and she said she was wearing orange, because I feel like guys 644 00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,079 are a little color blind. They are what's wrong with you, guys? 645 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:28,199 Well maybe the lady was bad. How about that? And by the way, 646 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,320 clearly she's right, you know what I mean, she knows what sweater 647 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,480 she was wearing, right, But if it was Rae, it was orange. 648 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,800 But in my head it was red. And I got to see Christophergh's 649 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,519 Lydian red and that was a bit to myself, crying in the car home 650 00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:45,840 because I'm sad and drunk and she's got this boyfriend, ah, which may 651 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,639 or may not have been true me driving from Satannick's back here to the valley. 652 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,239 Well, it's a good thing she got rid of Jimmy Dore. Uh. 653 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,079 Yeah, I think Jimmy's doing great these days. He's out of a 654 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:02,519 skull, he's not Yeah, he's nuts. Yeah, he's a big anti 655 00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:07,159 vaxxer okay, COVID. He he's one of those guys that went so far 656 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,519 to the it's the Bernie bro gone bad syndrome. It's that you go so 657 00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:16,280 far to the left that then you become extremist. Yeah, it's that horseshoe 658 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:22,320 thing where you're there. Yeah, and he's gone that said, bought a 659 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,559 compound. So he's got his you know, like that whole group of I'll 660 00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,599 use Hillary's words, basket of the plorables. He's got his basket of the 661 00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:37,960 plorables that listen to him and believe that conspiracy theory. Horseshit, right. 662 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,400 Yeah, I haven't spoken to him since before the twenty sixteen election. That's 663 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,159 not true. He said hello to him at Flappers and hey Jim, and 664 00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:49,119 I went, oh, hey, you doing Jim? And then I watched 665 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:52,679 my car? Who is it? That's it? What am I gonna say? 666 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,360 Hey? What do you think of Fauci? I mean, what do 667 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,400 you what do you say to an anti vax wacko? I mean, you 668 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,000 know, I got I got nothing right? Yeah, you know what, 669 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,039 I'm not going to do that. You know you got to listen to what 670 00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:06,920 they say, and you got to understand no, no, no, no 671 00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:09,079 no, I'm not going to both sides it with a whack job. Right. 672 00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:14,039 The problem is that there he doesn't do both sides even anymore. He's 673 00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:17,400 not even like Joe Rogan, who like will entertain a conversation. You know, 674 00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:22,079 not that I'm not that I'm pro Joe Rogan, but I'm saying he's 675 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,760 just like, no, this is how it is, and anybody else you're 676 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,760 absolutely wrong, and like you're you know sheep, if this is the way 677 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,239 it is, agreed, Ye, it's it's weird to see, you know, 678 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,639 a guy that I started stand up with, and you know, we 679 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,920 you know, we all have our own paths, and then to see like, 680 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,840 that's that's okay, that's the path you've chosen to be a grifter. 681 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,360 Good luck. Yeah, yeah, it sounds like your wife dodged a bullet. 682 00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:52,119 I think so, But then she's stuck with my nonsense. So yeah, 683 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,320 so I'm not pleasant, So dad life, Yes, how's that? 684 00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,519 How's that going? How has it softened your comedy in any way? Oh 685 00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:06,960 no, no it has. This is off my comedy anyway. It my 686 00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:08,880 son and I I know, I know we're parents. We all say this, 687 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,280 but I mean, he's the nicest person I've ever met in my life. 688 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:17,159 Like he's just a good dude, and he's kind and he's considerate artistic. 689 00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:22,800 He's very artistics, not anymore, but he did. Yeah, he 690 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,320 would out of paper. He would make action figures, like if you if 691 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,800 you ordered a hey, I want for Christmas? I want to make an 692 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,760 action figure of Steph of Stephanie. Can Oliver do that? And then Oliver 693 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,480 would go, uh would charge you, uh ridiculously low price and uh and 694 00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,039 that would make it and it looks just like her and it looks like an 695 00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:46,440 action figure. It's the greatest packaging. It's amazing. It's really great that 696 00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:52,559 like tells you what the character is and like it's real, like you're buying 697 00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:55,519 it at Target. Where does he get that from? That's a great question. 698 00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:02,519 Uh, it's not me, and it's it's not Danielle. I don't 699 00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:07,480 know where he gets it from. Uh. But and he's also he's amazingly 700 00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:12,039 funny. Uh. He's probably gonna go into this business, which I everything 701 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,000 in my power to, like, you know, there's other things, other 702 00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:16,159 things out there, son, and uh, but I think it's in his 703 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,119 bones. Yeah, you know he comes from I mean, I'm a comic, 704 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,960 Danielle's a comic. His father, you know, law has a star 705 00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:25,079 on the Walk of Fame. His grandfather or my father in law. He's 706 00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,639 from Star Trek. Oh. Danielle's father is Walter Kynig, who was Checkov 707 00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:35,480 on the original Star Trek. Wow. Okay, so you know sci fi 708 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,719 royalty and a great actor and so and my my mother in law, whos 709 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,880 since passed away, was a great actress. And my brother in law Andrew 710 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,119 was on Growing Pains. He was a great actor. So it's in Oliver's 711 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:50,360 blood. So it's like he, I mean again, we know how awful 712 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,440 this business could be, but I think he's going into it and I can't 713 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,599 fight it. Is he looking at colleges? He is, have you gone 714 00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:01,000 on some college you have? That's big email holder? Yours? We have 715 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,320 I have twins, boy girl, twins seventeen. Oh they're seventeen, and 716 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,119 yeah, yes we're getting the Oh you're already here. You should. You're 717 00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:12,599 touring so early. And it's like I went into a panic because I saw 718 00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:15,360 a post on Facebook. Well I just took a tour like as a sophomore. 719 00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:19,920 He's a junior. And I panicked, and Daniel and I booked a 720 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,559 bunch of tours. Yeah, as we get where have you gone? We've 721 00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:30,719 done the UCS. We've done the Occidental, which is local, and I 722 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,960 think he's going on to Chapman, you know, film school. He wants 723 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,400 to go in to film school. Okay, so uh, it's it's it's 724 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:42,719 right, it is, it's interesting, it's you know. And to think 725 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,760 that they're going to be out there and there by themselves. Oh, I 726 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,639 don't like that. I'm going to be sad and lonely. Now. I 727 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,360 know. I wanted to be local. Listen. I wanted to I wanted 728 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,480 to live at guy. I wanted to experience college. I want him to 729 00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:57,159 go, but I wanted to be local so that his dad, what he 730 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,920 said on a Sunday, can call me. Want to get together for lunch? 731 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,880 Yeah, and then I'm going to be the I'm gonna be the man 732 00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:06,880 in Catching the Cradle where it's like there's he doesn't have time for me anymore. 733 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:13,519 Oh no, And yeah, I hope that would be nice more Occidental 734 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,320 or USC or even Chapman, which is a nervine. Yeah, so if 735 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,960 he's local, we can get together for lunch and then that would be nice. 736 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,239 Yeah. My kids want to go out of state, do they both 737 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,440 of them? Yeah? I want to get far away and do they want 738 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,039 to get into show business as well? My son wants to. He's been 739 00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:37,559 doing podcasting for about five years. He does a sports show and called bench 740 00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:43,960 Warmers bench Warmers and uh, and he wants to do sports broadcasting. Yeah, 741 00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:46,599 yeah, so and then is there my friend Jason Bonnetti, who was 742 00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:50,440 just the plum play guff for the White Sox and now he's just moved on 743 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,559 to the Tigers. He went to Syracuse for sports broadcasting, so I don't 744 00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:58,559 know if that was his first choice. My husband went to Syracuse and my 745 00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:00,840 brother went to Syracuse. Oh yeah, well it sounds like that's the spot. 746 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:07,519 Then maybe we'll see I think it's Syracuse. Yeah, well, you 747 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:13,320 have to let us know what happens with Oliver in college. He applies to 748 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,800 and gets into and I'm going to see you when I come to your podcast, 749 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,559 I think in January. But what so never not funny? Yes? 750 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,840 What else do you want to plug? Yeah? Called Jimmy's Records and Tapes, 751 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:31,960 where I uh, just kind of rant for ten minutes about my whatever. 752 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,760 The topic is my five favorite songs that feature the harmonica. So you're 753 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,719 back in the record business. I'm back of the bi uh. And that 754 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,880 didn't explode like I wanted it to. I thought that was going to go 755 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,440 viral and I'd be one of those dudes that you know, Uh, it 756 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,719 gets a couple of thousand views, but I enjoy doing it. And it's 757 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,960 called say it again, It's called Jimmy's Records and Tapes. Okay, cool, 758 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,679 It's just it's just dumb fun It's just me. It's my five favorite 759 00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,760 uh you know, uh, movies about music or my five favorite I did 760 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,760 a five favorite Chicago songs or five favorite you know, songs that are horrible 761 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,599 but you still love them, you know, like like Coocomo. I love 762 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:09,639 that. I'm going to watch it. So is it on your website YouTube? 763 00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:12,760 But the links on my website certainly? Yeah? Okay, So your 764 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,000 website is Jimmy Parter dot com. Okay, Jimmy part dot com. Yeh. 765 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,440 Never not funny, uh, which is absolutely true. You are never 766 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,880 not funny unless I'm talking very seriously, which I've said to have done this 767 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:31,079 morning, and I apologize you're talking about and really you're lying to my face? 768 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,559 Then he was very funny. You're full of lies. I was very 769 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:40,159 serious, and I took this interview very very seriously. Ship and Kaylin, 770 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,840 who doesn't laugh very easily. It takes a lot to make sure that actually 771 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,800 laugh over there. I was looking at him many times. He was he 772 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,760 was cracking up. All right. I don't need to be coddled. I 773 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,199 was just out of here. I don't care for that language, but all 774 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,920 right, I'm monitored, have been here. Thank you for having me. 775 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,719 Thank you so much, Jimmy, thank you. Yeah, my pustion. 776 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:10,360 Bye, he everybody, Bye, everybody. It's good letting go, Hm.