WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:05.360 If you want to get faster, just practice faster. Just do you have 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:07.960 a couple of times a week. Takes some time to try and go faster 3 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:13.199 and work with a radar. Just that helps. And then the second major 4 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:18.359 thing is to like increase solshwing muscles in particular the ones that you using the 5 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:23.280 downs with and you can do some mesic band exercises. The band as symmetrics 6 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:26.760 a really good one to build your strength. Most people don't do anything for 7 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:31.359 their speed. So whether you're a lady, a junior, an amateur player, 8 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:35.320 a senior that's not swinging as fast as you once did and you want 9 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:39.119 to get a little bit of that speedback, just taking a little little time 10 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:43.240 a couple of times a week working on increasing your golf wing strength and practicing 11 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:46.960 swinging fast. The results that you can get into month really amazing. I 12 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:52.119 was consistently seeing twelve to sixteen miles an hour, which is thirty to forty 13 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:57.000 yards. Ah. It is Jeff Watson from then out of California and I 14 00:00:57.079 --> 00:01:03.200 play at Wiliwick Golf Course. This is golf number eight eight eight swing speed 15 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:10.159 training to increase your distance without bulking up like Bryson featuring Jacob About This is 16 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:15.159 Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf mines to help 17 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:21.200 you lower your score and raise your golf IQ. Here's your host, Fred 18 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:26.480 Green. Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast, Jacob. Hello, Fred, 19 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:32.239 lovely to be back again for the fifth time. Yeah, for the 20 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:36.599 fifth time. But the first time we met was fourteen years ago. You 21 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:42.640 were just a baby, you were just out of diapers, and I remember 22 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:49.000 that episode you were talking about chasing a championship. You were kind of new 23 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.840 to golf at the time, it feels like, but you had this idea 24 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:59.599 that you wanted to play in a national championship more than once. Well there, 25 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:01.840 see, that would have been two episode two and nine, two thousand 26 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:06.480 and nine. I turned pro in two thousand and three, so it was 27 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:09.879 early in my career. Two thousand and nine, I would have been thirty 28 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:15.719 three. And yeah, the whole, the whole idea was just when I 29 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:20.960 when I first started, It was twenty seven and I was a fourteen handicap 30 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.520 at the time, and the whole thing, I guess with the start of 31 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:30.560 my journey was like, can I make make it as a pro? Turn 32 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.800 from this a forty ndicap and make a living in golf and tim pro and 33 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:42.240 maybe one day getting getting a tour. So yeah, I mean I remember, 34 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:46.919 I kind of remember the conversation because I wasn't rolling my eyes at you, 35 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:50.599 like yeah, right, you're gonna make a tour event as a fourteen 36 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:55.039 handicap, But I just there was something about you that made me believe that 37 00:02:55.080 --> 00:03:00.080 you could do it. Yeah. It was, I mean, kind of 38 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:07.680 crazy to think that, just to consider that, Yeah, being of the 39 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:09.800 fourteen ndicap as it had been different if it like, oh, you're a 40 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:14.240 fourteen handicap and you're fourteen years old, Like okay, you got got a 41 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.240 little bit more time, like some time to develop, but like, all 42 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:21.479 right, you're already an adult. You're like into adulthood, not you're just 43 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:25.680 an average golfer. Like what what I mean? This is kind of ridiculous 44 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:31.560 going for something like that. But yeah, I guess looking back at it 45 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:36.680 now, it's like I was working and worked at corporate job for five years 46 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:42.280 and I wasn't particularly happy at Sports was always a big love of mine. 47 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:46.919 At a trial for the Twins with baseball, um, I played Division two 48 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:51.800 basketball in college, so sports was like super important to me, and after 49 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.240 neither of those worked out, I thought, well, I guess that's it. 50 00:03:54.840 --> 00:04:02.400 And then there was a scene two thousand and one. So during that 51 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:05.560 five year period, I was thinking, gosh, what am I going to 52 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:09.680 do with my life? So I just started with a bucket list and like, 53 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.000 all right, let me just start doing some things off this list. 54 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.800 And one of the things on the list was to go to every major sports 55 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:19.160 event at least once, so like one super Bowl, one, NBA, 56 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:26.720 NHL, like you know, only said Stanley Cup. And I was working 57 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:32.720 and the PGA Championship happened to be in Atlanta when I was doing a corporate 58 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:36.879 education there and the last day got canceled, so I was like, oh, 59 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:40.000 I got an extra day, like, let me go over to the 60 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:44.439 PJA Championship. And when I got so, I got myself to take it. 61 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:46.519 Went on the grounds. You've ever been to a tour man, you 62 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.839 know that, Like the players are playing on the course of course, and 63 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:57.680 then it's roped off and then all hands are on the side and as the 64 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:00.319 players passed, they opened up the ropes and let the the people crossed the 65 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:04.800 course basically, and there was this one spot on the course where they opened 66 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:10.519 up the ropes and I was the only person crossing and I got out there, 67 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:12.839 and all of a sudden, when I got in the middle, I 68 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.800 had the view of being inside the ropes being a player, and it was 69 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.560 the strangest thing, felt like a sky lit up and I got warm, 70 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:23.519 and I was like, wait a minute, like maybe I could be a 71 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:28.040 pro golfer. And it was just like this ridiculous thought. So it took 72 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:32.079 me about a year to like like consider, like I mean, is this 73 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:41.120 is this even peasable? And my job got there were a couple of buyouts, 74 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:46.160 and corporate culture is difficult when you're going through buyouts, so that I 75 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.079 got unhappy enough in the job. And then also I was like, you 76 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:55.680 know, um, twenty seven, but like maybe let me try and just 77 00:05:55.800 --> 00:06:00.319 see, like and then I'll least know I've got Unlike other sports you got 78 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:03.399 to retire when you're thirty or thirty five. With golf, if you're healthy 79 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.319 and motivating, you can almost do it like a full career, playing to 80 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:11.240 your fifties and sixties. So it's like I got time. I've got a 81 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:15.600 little bit of background in other sports that maybe I can apply to this and 82 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:21.800 put together plan and give it a shot. And yeah, one day I 83 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:25.639 just kind of finally got the courage and to give it a goal and Google 84 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:31.120 return. And you've done many things. I mean, you were involved in 85 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:38.399 speed golf, you were involved in long drive championships, You've been involved in 86 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:44.000 tour events, You've done them all. Huh, Yeah, it's it's kind 87 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:49.120 of been. All of it was in an effort to just try and keep 88 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:56.079 keep keep things going and and with an end goal and just find way. 89 00:06:56.079 --> 00:07:00.800 It's just kind of survived it away and just because it's like, uh, 90 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:06.000 you know, I got myself good enough to turn pro pretty quickly, which 91 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:10.680 was amazing in itself. But then once you're good enough to turn pro, 92 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:14.560 it's like it's kind of like being a starving artist in a way. It's 93 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:18.480 like, unless you're in the top of the bunch, you could do amazingly 94 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:21.639 well at the half of the bunch, but for a lot of other people, 95 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:27.160 it's just it's the starving artist lifestyle. So I'm sleeping my car, 96 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:30.959 sleep in tents and just struggling, you know, trying to find ways to 97 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:35.079 patch it together and keep it going. And then in the process of doing 98 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:39.839 and I found my way into all these other things. So I competed in 99 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:44.480 long drives for a while and through that I kind of learned about swingsy training. 100 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.240 And that was part of the generalism of this swingman golf business that was 101 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.680 lost in two thousand and seven was people were curious, well and how I 102 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:55.879 made that transition from fourteen and handicapter pro. But then also, like I 103 00:07:55.920 --> 00:08:00.399 don't know, I started hitting the ball longer, so that that was part 104 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:05.560 of the genesis of that, and then from that it got into UM speed 105 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:09.959 golf, which was really fun to be a part of UM. I finished 106 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:13.120 fifth in the World Championship with that, and and I remember in the two 107 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:18.560 thousand and twelve I believe they aired it right before the Masters on CBS, 108 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:22.879 so it was like cool to be part of that. In twenty thirteen, 109 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:28.120 I had the I set the record for UM golf score at the World Championships 110 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:35.159 that shot us Ham and d two and fifty five minutes with six clamps UM. 111 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:39.399 So that was pretty cool and amazing. And then you know that all 112 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:45.240 those kind of things. It led to single length fires too, and I 113 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:52.840 believe we talked about the whole single length fires in twenty eighteen, so sterling 114 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:58.480 irons that we ran those from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty. Um so super 115 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.759 cool. I never would have thought were though in the beginning, like would 116 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.720 Bryson de Shambo played Um, No, he was playing single length irons at 117 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:15.039 the time, wasn't he? Whereas yes, yes he still is, um 118 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:20.000 he just he originally signed with Cobe. Well we'll be back then up And 119 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.279 this is kind of a funny story too, actually, um, so I 120 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:28.320 was uh playing single like irons. I really believed in them. Uh. 121 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:31.919 In two thousand and seven, eight and nine, ten, I shot my 122 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:33.759 first round in the term around in sixties and I was like, yeah, 123 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:37.440 so I lunch singleing irons, but I felt like they needed to be improved. 124 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.440 And in twenty and ten, if you remember, the groove rule changed, 125 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:46.759 um, and none of the manufacturers wanted to update their their groove. 126 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.200 So I kind of had to go back to conventional variable lakes. That's for 127 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.440 a while, and I was trying to find a way how can I play 128 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.320 single like brons again? And so originally I asked Tom Washan of Washan gal 129 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.039 Um and he said he said no the first first time. He was not 130 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:13.279 a fan not at the time. That changed eventually and then um, and 131 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.159 then well, it was interesting when I went back to him for the second 132 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.879 time, we decided to parner up on that with me, so he didn't 133 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:28.080 end up having to change of opinion on that. But sidebar we so I 134 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.679 was he hadn't yet changed his mind. So I was like, I asked 135 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:35.000 David a down the Dell golf like, hey, do you want to do 136 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:39.759 sing like irons? Like could you make me a set? And he said 137 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.720 no. But then I later found out that Bryson, while he was still 138 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.759 an amateur, went to David and also asked if he could make a single 139 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.960 link set of iron. So I don't know if I inadvertently planted the theme 140 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.840 and David said, it's like to do that or or or what. But 141 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:05.799 um, so David built Bryson his original set of Adele's, and then when 142 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:11.919 Bryson won the amateur he was with instead of Adele's, and then when he 143 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:18.559 turned pro he went with Cobra and then Cobur designed their single single like bars. 144 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:26.159 And when Bryson was going through that, I also asked him he was 145 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:31.759 more accessible then he could just message you on his book because he's still an 146 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.799 amateur at the time, and I was like, hey, Bryson, you 147 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:35.759 want like we're doing these sterling irons, like do you want to do? 148 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.759 You want to play? These? These are like way better and the performance 149 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.440 is fantastic, And we really saw kept a lot of the things that worked 150 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:50.399 in single length but fixed a lot of the story of problems also. But 151 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:54.360 he ended up going with Cobra, and I understand that because Cobra is able 152 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.240 to combine with Puma offered apparel and like, you know, a big, 153 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:05.399 big financial contract like I just couldn't be at the time. So um, 154 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:11.240 but it was interesting, like Bryson has been into long drive and single length 155 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:16.080 byron for you or that I forget the type of cap than you had. 156 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.080 But it's funny because I was like doing a lot of those same things before 157 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.440 him, although I didn't achieve the same level of playing the success that he 158 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.039 did. But it's interesting that we were just kind of like following. We 159 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:33.679 were interlaced a little bit and getting into long drive and doing speed golf us 160 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:37.279 sorry nut speak, golf fast used to be training single length f irons, 161 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.279 all these things. Mhm. Interesting, Hey, listen, we're gonna take 162 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:50.519 a time out. We'll be back right after this, Jacob, when you 163 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.919 were doing the long drive championships, um, and we'll get to speed golf 164 00:12:54.919 --> 00:13:00.320 too. But I'm just curious what the mindset is in long drive to champion. 165 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:05.759 I mean, everybody wants to hit the ball farther right, but competing 166 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.320 for long drive has got to be different than just hitting it farther off the 167 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.759 tea? Is there a Is there a huge mindset difference that you found between 168 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:20.799 the two. It is a little bit different. Yeah. The average swing 169 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.960 speed of a PGA tour player now is about one fourteen and it kind of 170 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.519 rages on tour from one oh five to maybe one twenty five average usually each 171 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:33.159 year. And the typical long driver is going to be swinging one thirty five. 172 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:37.840 And then the top guys are in the one forties and even in the 173 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:45.519 one fifties now, so they're really really swinging fast, and there is the 174 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:52.080 vibe around the events are a little bit different. With golf. You're trying 175 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.320 to hit it far, of course, but you need to control it also. 176 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:03.879 So typically, at least in my measurements, guys are swinging ninety two 177 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.799 percent to ninety six percent of their max on the golf course. Um so 178 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:16.600 h. But in long drive. Oftentimes in long drive it's you're swinging as 179 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.919 hard as you can pretty much. Um, you don't have to get every 180 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.360 single ball and you're just trying to get that one in. And typically long 181 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:30.919 drive is a little bit more ego, a little bit younger guys, more 182 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:35.399 guys in their twenties versus a broader range of like you know, twenties, 183 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:43.440 thirties, forties, fifties in golf. So to me that I guess I'm 184 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:48.840 kind of like more the spiritual side of golf appeals to me. M And 185 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.639 I'm not particularly driven by my my my ego or money and power or whatever. 186 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.919 So, um, the that vibe around long drive is a little bit 187 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:03.159 different because it's all about you know, who has the longest drive. Um, 188 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.919 so it is different. That's the ego party referring to is just like 189 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.799 further than you were. Yeah there, I mean there there is a little 190 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:15.840 bit of that. You feel that a little bit when you go to those 191 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:20.519 events. Um so. Um. Not to say that there aren't egos and 192 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:28.759 regular golf also, but exactly there there there is a difference in how those 193 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:33.879 events feel and the goals also what you're trying to do UM long drivers to 194 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.799 there. I guess in both, you're trying to maximize your equipment as much 195 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:46.120 as you can. UM, you're trying to to be good and long drive 196 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.279 now you also have to have pretty good technique UM. Although the technique and 197 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:54.159 long drive is you're you're really trying to get all the power of pieces UM 198 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.919 and enough accuracy UH. In golf, you're trying to have a little bit 199 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:04.200 of both. And then with the training swing sweet training starting to gain a 200 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:08.960 little bit more popularity now, I guess and awareness long drive guys have been 201 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:12.919 doing it that kind of stuff for a long time. No one swings as 202 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:21.120 fast as they do naturally, they're all working at it, working on their 203 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:26.679 bodies to be able to make their swings, but just as fast as possible. 204 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:30.159 And you're starting to see a little bit of that filter into like tour 205 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:37.559 to a golf now behind to the same extent was long drive, but I 206 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:45.000 think eventually that will filter down into regular golf and golf fitness and I guess 207 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:49.840 is popular. But you can be fit and not fast. So there's the 208 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:53.600 tour has a lot of fitness starting to do some speed work. They still 209 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:59.039 have a lot to learn, I think as far as the getting there called 210 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:03.480 dead speed up. And you see also that there's a correlation between speed and 211 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:10.039 handicaps. So any scenes starting, you see that in the data now. 212 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.759 So eventually that's going to find its way down on tour. I don't know 213 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:18.079 how long it's going to take, but I think that's coming. H Well, 214 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.440 it's you know, you talk about the egos, and one of the 215 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:29.599 things that we hear so frequently from instructors and tour players is that when you're 216 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:33.200 playing competitive golf, and this could be recreational players as well, but when 217 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:38.079 you're playing competitive golf, you got to lose the ego. You can't you 218 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:41.480 know, on the golf course, you can't like yeah I can do this 219 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:44.119 shot because I've seen it on TV. No, man, if you haven't 220 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:47.880 practiced it, just don't try to be a hero that you don't know what 221 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:51.039 you know what you're doing so you can really get it. Yeah, keep 222 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:57.680 that in check. There is a definitely a mental component in a wrangling of 223 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:03.000 your go um, like do you should you hit a six iron when you 224 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:07.480 think you can get the seven iron there? Um? Are you affected by 225 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:14.279 their playing partners, and it's interesting to watch people sometimes when either they are 226 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:18.519 the longest hitter and the effect it has on the group, or there you're 227 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.240 one of the other people in the group are longer than you, and how 228 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:27.559 sometimes that affects people and they maybe try and start doing things that swinging swinging 229 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:33.799 beyond what they can really control. So yeah, there's definitely a like UM. 230 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:38.440 I think as you developed as a golfer, there you kind of have 231 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:44.960 to reckon a little bit um with yourself internally to to get the most town 232 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:52.039 of yourself. You seem to have a thing for the s swing speed training 233 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.200 UM, thinking that there's value or you believe there's value to it for everybody. 234 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.720 Let's talk about it a little bit on what you do for your swing 235 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:08.039 speed training, what you recommend UM swing speed training. That's been an interesting 236 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:11.960 evolution. When I first started, I competed in long Drive in two thousand 237 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:19.359 I think three stakes and Saturnum and back in launch Swingman Golf, which was 238 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:25.279 about swayers retraining primarily about swings from training the two thousand and seven, So 239 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:30.400 back then people didn't even a lot of the pushback out Again, people didn't 240 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.839 even believe that you could do that. And it's like you get even quotes 241 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:38.880 from like Tiger Woods and he'd be like, all right, well you dis 242 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:45.799 you God and you just you know, got um. And I remember one 243 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:52.960 time my introduction to Barney Adams or Adams Golf. One time I got a 244 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:57.680 I just opened up my email and I kept this blaming email like Barney Adams 245 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:00.519 is this like me, Barney Adams. He's like, what are you doing 246 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:04.000 making these claims that you can like increase just like no one can do that. 247 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:07.880 You can't do that. He's kind of funny, like that was my 248 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:15.359 intro to adving a relationship and party. But then he's a character. He 249 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:19.160 I just like having on and ask a question and he can riff on it 250 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:25.279 for twenty five minutes and just you know, he's so old school um that 251 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:32.440 it can it's sometimes humorous and sometimes insightful. But now with the swing speet 252 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:37.200 trading, it's it's evolved a little bit like Bryce and he wishes much I 253 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:44.079 who knows media attaching that he gets. He really brought a lot of attention 254 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:52.200 to like he actually change his body significantly, like really significant increasing swing speet. 255 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.000 But now, um, I mean he put on a lot of weight 256 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.880 to do that. But what people don't realize is you don't actually have to 257 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:06.200 on that kind of way to gain that kind of speed. So so swing 258 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:12.519 speed training is something that I think can benefit You can probably start doing it 259 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:25.119 in high school age like fourteen to eighteen, and then it helps regular golfers 260 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.200 just doing some basic things. Like there's too many things with swing speed training. 261 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.079 One, if you want to get faster, just practice faster. If 262 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.240 you just do that a couple of times a week, take some time to 263 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:40.240 try and go faster, and work with a radar. Just that helps. 264 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:45.359 And then the second major thing is to like increase the strength ashland muscles, 265 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.960 in particular the ones that you use in the down swing. And you can 266 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:56.480 do some just basic band exercises ymmetrically BANDI symmetrics are really good one to do 267 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.279 for that to to build your strength. And if most people don't do anything 268 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:07.759 for their speed, So whether you're a lady, a junior, an amateur 269 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:11.960 player, a senior that's maybe not swinging as fast as as you once did 270 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:15.839 and you want to kind of cut that off or get a little bit of 271 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:19.400 that speedback. Just taking a little time and in a couple of times a 272 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:25.880 week working on increasing your golf wing strength and practicing swinging fast. The results 273 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:29.920 that you can get into a month really amazing. I was consistently seeing twelve 274 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:34.160 to sixteen miles an hour, which is thirty to forty yards. Whoa, 275 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:40.640 it's it's really significant. It does take a little bit of altow grease on 276 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:42.000 your party. You gotta put it in a little bit of work, but 277 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:48.359 it's there for the taking. Um, so it's not just for long drivers 278 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.799 or who are the ones that are mostly doing it, or tour players who 279 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.240 are starting. It's it's really for everyone, and you can take it as 280 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:03.680 as far as you want. I've had some oh I forget on the ladies 281 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.119 that were maybe swing in the fifties or sixties and then get up him seventies 282 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:14.759 or eighties. Wow, so you know, not a significant increase. And 283 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:18.880 then like, um, there were a couple of guys. They were started 284 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:23.440 out in the nineties, which is a typical amateurial swing about ninety three miles 285 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:30.480 an hour, so just normal adventure swing speed, and then they well, 286 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.440 probably about six months of work, got up in the warm thirties and one 287 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:41.839 forties and started competing in longer and it's uh, what is forty miles an 288 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:51.279 hour is one hundred yards roughly, so they like literally added one hundred yards 289 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:56.039 to how far they were hitting. It's really amazing. So that's the extreme 290 00:23:56.200 --> 00:24:00.240 end of like someone working really hard and being dedicated and doing all the things 291 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:06.640 that you can do to really increase speed. But it's any did they didn't 292 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:11.319 have to put on forty pounds away bryce to be able to achieve that. 293 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.480 It's just a lot of smart pity basically, and that's when a lot of 294 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:21.160 them Because we make golf stuff. We've been done the sleepy training stuff a 295 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:29.640 long time now since you thousn't stopping The PHAs magazine just launched this Golf Fitness 296 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:36.400 Association of America and we won all Marshal Awards um from the GIFF in the 297 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.079 last two years. But that's work can seems to be training. So it's 298 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.519 awesome. Um, it's it's a it's a really great thing, and you 299 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.759 don't you can do a lot with it. You don't have to be just 300 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.640 doing a few little basics can really make a big difference to anyone in this 301 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:55.000 golf game. Wow, hey, time for another quick time out. I 302 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.119 want to continue this part of the conversation. We'll be back right after this. 303 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:08.559 Okay, So you don't have to bulk up like Bryson to increase your 304 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:12.000 swing speed. And to increase your swing speed, you're going to get more 305 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.839 distance. The key to everybody They just want to learn how to hit it 306 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:19.119 better and think they're going to hit it farther. But you're saying the better 307 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:23.200 way to do that is, I guess go to swingman golf dot com and 308 00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:27.960 start working with you on increasing your swing speed. Right. Well, the 309 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:36.880 um with swing speed, there's a correlation between swing speed and handicap. So 310 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.920 if you're interested in becoming a better player and lawyer your handicap and shooting scores, 311 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:47.319 more swing speed will help UM. And it's not one of the things 312 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.240 I'll bump up into with people on this. It's like, oh, well, 313 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:53.119 if I start swinging faster, I hit it off the planet or off 314 00:25:53.119 --> 00:26:00.359 the golf course. So there's there's it's important to differentiate between your control speed 315 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:06.400 and your max speed. So, like I said that, in my testing, 316 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:10.920 people can generally they always say like, oh, swing me eighty percent. 317 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:14.440 And I also wondered, like what what what is the real percentage. 318 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:18.799 So I test them the more to people, and it's typically people can keep 319 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.680 good control, pretty good control of ninety two to ninety six percent of their 320 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:27.440 max link. So that's what you want to play with. But with the 321 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.720 swing speed training, you're working on your one hundred percent. So the idea 322 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:37.160 is to raise your one hundred percent over time so that when you back off 323 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:42.640 to that to control your ball, basically it's gone up proportionally, if that 324 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:51.640 makes sense. Yeah, yeah, okay, I get that, and you'll 325 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:53.480 see it not just off the tea, You're going to see it with all 326 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.759 your clubs, right yeah, yeah, So, um, you know someone 327 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:03.799 might if they go up ten miles an hour, they're going to be twenty 328 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:10.000 five yards farther off the team. But you might pick up a club of 329 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:14.400 distance on your irons too, so you might be coming into the green with 330 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:19.680 the nine iron and six and it's it's really amazing to like to. I 331 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:23.200 was get a kick out of one night when I maybe played golf with someone 332 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:30.960 before and after and who one of these gets this is one of in particular 333 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:37.839 Phil Reid m he was all author and ridden some both in California. I 334 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.680 played with him. Here's one of the initial people I did testing on, 335 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:47.240 and he was he didn't know. He felt like he didn't know how to 336 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:52.720 play his own old course that he played a billion times because he was just 337 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:59.839 heading it into places that he'd never been before. Interesting kind of changes your 338 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.759 game. So it's it's it's sweeps to be. Training is not the only 339 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.079 thing you can do, of course to become a better player and hit the 340 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:14.839 ball longer, but um, it isn't important. It is something you can 341 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.119 do, right if it can be a contributing factor, sure, yes, 342 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:26.160 yes, but its work. It does, um, I guess most of 343 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.000 it. Well, you could go through an equipment. I think that doesn't 344 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:33.559 take much work. But so that's kind of a little She'll maybe work on 345 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.920 your technique. Um, that takes a little bit of work. But you 346 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.680 know it was just a missing profound miss. Maybe he is trying them all 347 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.640 a little bit more. Um, so that there things to be. Training 348 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.599 does take a little bit of effort, um, but maybe not as much 349 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.480 as you think. And you certainly don't have to it on forty thou away. 350 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:59.519 Yeah. Yeah, so and you were also involved in speed golf, 351 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:04.359 which is different than speed swing training. Yeah, speed swing, speed training, 352 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.599 right, right, a different kind of speed. Yeah, yeah, 353 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:17.160 tell me about that. I've always fascinated me. Speed golf is basically playing 354 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:21.559 golf as fast as you can and shooting as long as you can. And 355 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:27.559 so a speed golf score will take your golf score plus your time and that's 356 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:33.200 your speed golf score. So the idea, so it takes a little bit 357 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:38.759 of there's a little bit of stra in the speed golf world, eatier around 358 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.119 a max or savy clumb. So basically like aside, if you took out 359 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:47.599 your odd arms or even arms, you basically have like what you could work 360 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.720 with. So but it's is, yeah, it's kind of interesting. So 361 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.240 the strategy is kind of have to tailor to yourself, I guess. So 362 00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:03.160 for me, I'm to typically way about two fifteen and I'm sixteen, so 363 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.119 I'm a pretty large person. I'm not really gold for distance running, but 364 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.079 I'm a really great golfer. So for me, I like to carry. 365 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.119 I'll take a little less time, or I'll take more time on my running 366 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.759 and maybe be one of the slower runners with the World Championships, but I'll 367 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.559 be shooting the belt scorers, and so I'll take a full set of clump, 368 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:27.720 well seven six or seven clumps, whereas there was himmembering the one of 369 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:33.519 the World Championships. Bernardo Legatt was there and he's amazing to see watch or 370 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:38.359 to watch run in person. It's like just like a dear gazellets. It's 371 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:44.200 just kind of jaw dropping how beautiful it is to see someone like that run. 372 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:49.240 So he's an excellent runner, but he's like not really a good golfer, 373 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.440 so he like, will you know, blow me out of the water 374 00:30:55.799 --> 00:31:00.079 on the run part, but his golf score will be higher, so you 375 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.880 know. So there's a little bit of strategy. So some people will take 376 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:10.759 like just a sixth is and and play. So you're carrying less and you 377 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:14.640 can run faster, so you take that. You can use your advantage from 378 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.920 that and then just try and shoot a reasonable score with your one club. 379 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:23.119 So it's it's it's interesting. I guess what people try and do and sure 380 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:26.920 the strategy is left the jake. Sure, what was in your bag? 381 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:32.000 What do you carry when you're um when you're playing speed golf, are you 382 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.240 focus more on wedges or longer clubs? What do you do? How do 383 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:42.400 you do it? I took a putter, and I'm most everyone's going to 384 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.200 take a putter unless you take shot, say a six iron, and you 385 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.599 try and blade it a little bit to put it. I'm so I had 386 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.000 a putter, and then I was like, all right, let me take 387 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.519 a driver. Also, some guys will take like a three winter. I 388 00:31:55.599 --> 00:32:00.000 took a driver, um, because I don't mind taking a little bit off 389 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:05.559 and the driver. I can get a partial drive with a driver, which 390 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:07.640 some people might think would be kind of hard, but it's like played not 391 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.519 too too bad to do. Us would just practice with it a little bit. 392 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.079 I'm so I could hit a driver three wood distance or hygdwood distance, 393 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:21.880 and then between that it's like I think I would. I didn't want to 394 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.359 take a lob wedge because you could open up like say a sandwich or a 395 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.079 gap wedge to play flop shots were on the green if you need to, 396 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:34.480 but with a sixties degree like a lobwudge, you can't hit it as far 397 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.200 as like say a gap wager sandwind. So I would typically take the gap 398 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.519 wiser sandwich because I could get a little bit of distance, but then I 399 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:46.039 could still easily around the green, and then between that I would kind of 400 00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:52.160 like divvy up. I'd try spacing out as best as I could, so 401 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:58.400 I might take We'll see, so I drive or a player and it's too 402 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:05.960 or a little jobs I take like a wedge and then maybe like eight iron 403 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.720 a five iron, like a herd. So just kind of like space it 404 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:14.799 out, um, so that you can kind of have a pretty even spread 405 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:20.079 or on your distances, and then you just kind of feel out the jobs 406 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.279 and you can play a lot of a lot of partial shots or if you're 407 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.400 if you're good at hitting draws or face you can like do like that. 408 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:31.720 Um. Yeah, so it's it's it's it's fun. Um well, I 409 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:37.599 guess I enjoyed aspects of feed golf. I enjoyed the creativity. It's been 410 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.920 golf. Um, I'm you're not really a distance from there, so like 411 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:47.200 I don't I didn't really. I liked I like casual jogging, um, 412 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.599 but when you're in the World Championships, you're like really really rubbing it up. 413 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:57.200 So it's like, you know, I did the Abandon Dunes and how 414 00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.680 many two and fifty minutes, so it was like fifty five minutes of fifty 415 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:08.599 five minutes of pain of just Yeah, it's it's really uncomfortable to like to 416 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.480 be running as hard as you know, getting your heart read up really really 417 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:20.800 high just to stay so yeah, can get Yeah, abandoned dunes could get 418 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:25.800 pretty windy and you're running in that. Um. And also it's the kind 419 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.400 of golf course you want to absorb as much as you can. You don't 420 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:34.239 want to be done in an hour abandoned dunes right right right, unless you're 421 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.960 competing for speed golf. Well that's the thing about it too, is like 422 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.360 you know, at the World Championships, you are trying to do as fast 423 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.039 and you can. But if you want to do be golf casual recreationally, 424 00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:50.559 it's kind of a it can be a cool thing to do. So you 425 00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.840 know, one of the complais about golf as it takes a long time, 426 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:58.199 so you got to get to work it. Whatever. You could pop out 427 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.920 to your course, be one of the first people off, Yeah, the 428 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.400 first guys off the teeth. You can't have anybody in front of you, 429 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.760 and then you played nine holes. But you could just kind of just do 430 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:15.519 a very very light god and finished career though and do nine holes in an 431 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.639 hound a half or something. Um, So you can get your nine holes 432 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:24.400 in um and still you know, be able to get to work on the 433 00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:29.800 whatever. So that's one way to do an or sometimes it's good to go 434 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:35.519 at the end of the day. Also because sometimes I took for training, 435 00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.760 I would go out at the end of the day and most people, you 436 00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:44.480 know, an hour before sunset, no one is going off the first tea 437 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.760 because they're just not gonna have time to finish nine holes. So you can 438 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.559 go to the first that first team and then play a few holes and then 439 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.840 maybe if the courses are back and forth that course, he can skip over 440 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.599 a hole and then loop back and just do the first second terminal again and 441 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.920 just kind of do it that way. But it's an interesting way to get 442 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.039 a bit of exercise and get a little admit of cardio in and if you 443 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:15.039 want to go a little STARTI stan John Morris. Even my friends who do 444 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:16.880 cardio, I don't think they like to do it on the golf course. 445 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.559 I have a friend that I play with regularly who's a runner, but it's 446 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.440 like, yeah, I'm not interested in running. With my golf clubs, 447 00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.480 I listen, you know, we have golf smarter mulligans is when we play 448 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:35.920 the older episodes and we bring them back and we'll be getting to you know, 449 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.880 one of the second episode you were on in twenty twelve was a member's 450 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:44.199 only episode, so it's never been heard before. So I don't think that's 451 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.880 coming up too soon, but it is going to be coming up, so 452 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.719 hopefully we'll do that. But let's find out what's happening in golf Smarter Mulligans 453 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.679 this weekend, because it's time for Tony Manzoni. This week is number five 454 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.000 of nine in our Tony Manzoni series to help you launch your new golf season. 455 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:07.119 In this episode, we talk about a variety of topics, including growing 456 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.880 up in the shadow of greatness and shot making. But you should be able 457 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:16.039 to take a pitching one job and hit it fifty sixty, seventy eighty. 458 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.239 You should be able to hit it all those distances. That's called shot making. 459 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.239 The great players like Holding, he would hit every club in the bag 460 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:29.679 and during a practice around twenty five times, and he hit them different trajectories 461 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.079 left or right, right to left, high and low. And he could 462 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:36.840 stand out there and with his whole set of clubs and hit a green about 463 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.400 one fifty one sixty with every club in the bag, including the driver, 464 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:44.920 so he had the ability to speed it up or slow it down and still 465 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:50.119 make a legitimate swing and hit the ball flush. That's what's missing today. 466 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:53.920 If a person would take the clubs that they have and practice with them and 467 00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:59.920 use them for different distances, you'd be surprised they could literally eliminate some of 468 00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:02.239 the clothed in their bag and still and still be able to play without any 469 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:07.599 problem. That's Golf Smarter Mulligan's episode two hundred four, the fifth of nine, 470 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:12.840 featuring our friend and mentor Tony man Sony. Check the show notes to 471 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.960 learn how to get Tony's book The Lost Fundamental One Simple Move, Better Golf 472 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:22.920 Forever and gain access to his video of the same name. Please subscribe for 473 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:28.519 free to our sister podcast that revisits the best of the Golf Smarter podcast called 474 00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:37.559 Golf Smarter Mulligan's being released every Friday from wherever you're listening right now. And 475 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:43.519 with all those dreams that you had, my friend of like seeing like you 476 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.000 walk in the middle of a golf course during a term of going, I 477 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:50.519 can do this. I can be a professional golfer. You have played on 478 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:58.480 tour you've had some tour experience, tell me about that. Yeah, I've 479 00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:02.920 played. I haven't yet played in a PGA Tour event. I've done, 480 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.320 uh, some qualifiers for tour PGA Tour events, but I have played a 481 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:15.159 lot of other There's a lot of other various tours in the world. I'll 482 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:21.840 still have done the Cutsky Tour or the Hooters are done, Open qualifying, 483 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:28.199 britsh Old qualifying, US Open qualifying, PJ qualifying. I think I finished 484 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:34.599 off with the Poland Open, with the Challenge Tours, still calm. The 485 00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:40.320 Challenge Tours Europe's uh, it's kind of like a Burnfur Tour of European DP 486 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.599 World Tour and constantly changing the names. But I played in the getting on 487 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:50.039 this too. The sponsor is that month. You're right, I played the 488 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:57.239 Tusker Canyon Open, So like, um, coming looking back now, UM, 489 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.159 I started this when I was twenty s don't know. I'm forty seven 490 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:06.360 now, twenty a year and looking so I have a bit of hindsight now. 491 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:13.519 And and although I haven't didn't or maybe I haven't yet played a PGA 492 00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:22.079 Tour event, I've really had some amazing and remarkable experiences in golf. You 493 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:28.639 know, aside from playing like I did caddy on caddy the Balero Texas Open, 494 00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.760 I caddied in the Senior Major, and doubt Parmy job being hest like, 495 00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:42.280 I've had just really um amazing, amazing golf experiences and so it's uh 496 00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:50.440 yeah, it's it's been amazing. Have you ever gotten a sponsor exemption? 497 00:40:52.719 --> 00:41:01.480 Uh? Not to a PGA Tour event. I did try and go for 498 00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:07.639 one, um with an AT and T Pebble Beach program. Um. And 499 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:13.960 I was like they they told me because I got a lot of my calls 500 00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:20.159 and he's starting on the Monarch and so I met my wife, my now 501 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.599 wife, UM on the Modern Dance Loom and she was in grad school there. 502 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:28.199 So um, that area of the country it's loped to me. And 503 00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.960 UM. So I was like, they told me I was one of this 504 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:38.000 past year, one of the fin people. They ended up going to somebody 505 00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:42.719 else. But I was like, right during the running, so I haven't 506 00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:46.639 gotten one. Yeah, Um, perhaps I'll get one. Um. I 507 00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:52.480 live in Detroit now and um, the Rocket Mortgage Classic is here and so 508 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.320 I schemed my name in the hot for one for this year. It's it's 509 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.880 marched down this the term was growing up in June. Made your decision in 510 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:08.960 May. The UM the Rock and Mortgage and is the we're big sponsor. 511 00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:22.639 UM from Detroit is a very important building up of Detroit. And I'm currently 512 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:29.639 the one way myself and another guy who's sixty, I believe are the only 513 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:34.960 prods that lived in city mbits. So I think, like, I haven't. 514 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:37.559 I mean, we'll say, yeah, I haven't. I think I 515 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.239 haven't good shot at getting more this year, just because I am here in 516 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:45.519 the city and really involved in the city today in my life that I did. 517 00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:51.480 We be a part of an effort to play one hundred and fifty trees 518 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:58.400 in our neighborhood. Um so, I have a letter recommendation from our neighborhood 519 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:05.320 Association from city council. Um so, there's a good package. There's a 520 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:10.159 lot of plant those in to get. I'm glad to be in the money. 521 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.920 I hope you get one and we'll see, we'll see what happens. 522 00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.119 We'll turn out in a couple of woods. Yeah, Oh, fingers crossed 523 00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:22.159 for you, buddy. Amazing, that would be amazing. That would be 524 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.800 nice. That would be And then this year with the BM my twentieth year 525 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:32.960 I turned pro into why the first week of July twenty two, thousand and 526 00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:38.760 three and just in thousand, last week of June will be twenty three, 527 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:44.280 So it's it's basically it would be like a really cool thing to to get 528 00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:51.400 in the plan this tournament because it's almost exactly twenty years. Um wow wow. 529 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.360 And then, so what do you want to do for your twentieth anniversary 530 00:43:54.639 --> 00:44:00.559 playing? There's obviously plays, Oh yeah, but play? Are you gonna 531 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.920 like do anything to say? Now looking back in my twenty years of starting 532 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.840 to wanting to be a golfer, to becoming a pro, to teaching, 533 00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:15.000 to becoming an entrepreneur, to getting involved in various businesses, and like, 534 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:20.280 you've been doing so much over this twenty years, it's really impressive. Yeah. 535 00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:24.440 Um, well, next year I'm thinking about doing in a second generation 536 00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.519 of the Sterling Irons Singling Clearnce. That's there's no hard date on that, 537 00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:31.800 but that's that's a possibility. But that's next year. I'm so okay. 538 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:39.920 This year twenty at the air and was consoling um writing a book. Was 539 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.800 the tentative title in my mind was twenty years on Tour Life Lessons learned through 540 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:52.760 my journey and professional golf. UM. So I have a lot of notes 541 00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:59.360 hashed out already for what would go in that. UM. I've had some 542 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:05.960 really amazing experiences, done a lot of things that I never thought I would 543 00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:13.679 have done, learned a lot about myself and life. So now I think, 544 00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.639 yeah, you know, I still have some years left in my career. 545 00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:22.280 UM, but now I would would be a perfect point, a perfect 546 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.079 marker to kind of like say, you know, it's been twenty years, 547 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:34.760 what's happened here and and maybe put something together that people hopefully found interesting, 548 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:45.079 maybe people finding maybe inspirational or help them and wow in their lives and in 549 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:50.880 some capacity. So we'll say it's it's it's just in the notes stage. 550 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.719 But you know that's how these things start. It's it's just it starts with 551 00:45:53.760 --> 00:46:00.639 an idea like this mystery and their neighborhood. Yeah, exactly, my wife 552 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:05.239 moved to here and we're just walking around our neighborhood, and the eats us 553 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.599 to kind of wind out, you know there we need more trees in the 554 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:15.480 in the in our in our neighborhood. That UM. Probably about fifty years 555 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:20.960 ago in Detroit, there was the city lost half a million trees um, 556 00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.360 and it used to Detroit used to be called the City of Trees and um 557 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:30.159 then that all these trees got wiped out. So there's just a ton of 558 00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.320 like places when you drive around where it's like, oh, there, there 559 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.119 used to be a tree there, there, there's a planter there, but 560 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.400 it's not there anymore. And so we just started out with this little idea 561 00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:45.400 like no more trees. So one night we just went out and walked around 562 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:52.360 our neighborhood and we like marked every single place that uh needed a tree and 563 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:57.000 wrote the address down. And then sure enough, there's a nonprofit here on 564 00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:02.880 the greening of Detroit that was looking to play at trees and they didn't know 565 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.760 where they're going to plan them, and we inadvertently ran into them and said, 566 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.119 hey, we got two hundred trees that we were we know the spots 567 00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:15.199 that they need, and enough they were able to give us one hundred and 568 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:19.639 fifty years. So these kind of things, like you know, this book 569 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.760 at this stage is just an idea, but like that's how all these things 570 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:27.159 start. It is just someone thinks about it and then and then takes actions 571 00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:32.280 as the courage and strength to take action on it and then be to comp 572 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.679 with a plan and start on it and then be persistent and make it you 573 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:43.079 know, adapt along the way. Um, and then just pick away at 574 00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:47.920 and then well and hold one day you know you have a sweet spy training 575 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.800 business or your own branded golf clubs and or like you're a professional golfer, 576 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:57.039 you know, so on the plank currently, right, So when we first 577 00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:01.360 started talking years ago, you were just swingman golf. And I don't even 578 00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:08.920 think at the time Swingman Golf that even the technology was available to be giving 579 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:15.000 lessons online. Is that primarily what you're doing these days is giving lessons online 580 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:20.039 through that platform. Yeah, that was yeah in two thousand and seven, 581 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:25.880 Um, social media was just kind of starting. YouTube was just starting that. 582 00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:32.559 Two thousand and seven was the year the iPhone came out, during the 583 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:37.159 launched of no smart bones yet and how I do matter one has a smart 584 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:45.000 bond. Oh, So the the technology back then, it was really innovative 585 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:51.280 to like kind of take golf instruction and golf training online back then. Um, 586 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.320 so yeah, it was kind of at the start of that I was 587 00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:00.079 saying, or more towards the beginning of the stack of thing, particularly in 588 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:06.239 golf when golf is kind of about slowed them to adapt sport and slowed them 589 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:14.440 in the sport. Um. So I remember I tell people like like Bob, 590 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:21.079 people just didn't get it. And now like now that's more. Yeah, 591 00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.519 I wouldn't say it's common, but like there was, there was YouTube, 592 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:29.519 there's and influencers and a lot of people have websites and those kinds of 593 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.519 things. So the technology has really come around. And yeah, so like 594 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:36.320 I still have about swimming golf website, it's still up and running, it's 595 00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:42.400 still working, We're still leaking up its um there's still activity and there's people 596 00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.199 you know, working on their spling speed and I was I was still here. 597 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:50.119 Great, great, well buddy, it was great to catch up with 598 00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.280 you. It's been a long time. We've now we've seemed to have known 599 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:57.599 each other a long time now, and I appreciate you agreeing to come back 600 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.239 on golf Smarter. Great talking to you again now, good luck. Yes, 601 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.039 thank you so much for having me back on. And I always enjoy 602 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.519 You're always fun to talk to you. Yeah, I love it. Thanks. 603 00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.159 Hey Jeff Watson, Santa Anna, California, thanks so much for opening 604 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.639 up today's episode now. As a golf Smarter Ambassador, Jeff chose to receive 605 00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.880 Tony Manzoni's video of the Lost Fundamental, and you can too, send an 606 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:29.440 email the Golf Smarter Podcast at gmail dot com and request our simple instructions to 607 00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:34.159 just leave a voicemail at our toll free golf Smarter line, and when you 608 00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:38.280 do, you can choose to receive one of three gifts, including a dozen 609 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:43.639 balls with a golf Smarter logo from Odin Golf, the golf brand that sponsors 610 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:49.519 and pays everyday players. These tour quality balls are a fraction of the price 611 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.159 of what you'll usually pay, and when you use the code golf Smarter at 612 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:57.559 check out, you'll receive an additional twenty percent off the order. Their link 613 00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:00.639 is in today's show notes. You also an option to receive a new glove 614 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:05.679 and glove storage compartment from Red Rooster golf dot com. And of course, 615 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:10.159 you can also get a private online link to Tony Manzoni's video of the Lost 616 00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:15.239 Fundamental. So please send an email and I'll get back to you with some 617 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:20.440 simple instructions of what to do and what to say. Right to Golfsmarter Podcast 618 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.119 at gmail dot com. Or click on the Hey Fred button when you visit 619 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:32.239 Golfsmarter dot com and smell it starting to smell like spraying, which means the 620 00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:37.559 Masters is just around the corner. And to celebrate, we'll get our annual 621 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:43.360 visit from doctor Bob Jones, the fourth the grandson of legendary golfer Bobby Jones. 622 00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:49.119 So how's this for remarkable. In the eight seasons between nineteen twenty three 623 00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:55.360 to nineteen thirty, Bobby Jones won thirteen Majors, which still includes the only 624 00:51:55.599 --> 00:52:00.760 true Grand Slam of all four majors. In the same year, six months 625 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:07.000 after he won the thirteenth, at the age of twenty eight, he retired 626 00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:12.000 from tournament golf. That's next week on Golf Smarter. And I'm thinking of 627 00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:17.559 experimenting with having two guests who've each been featured on the podcast before and having 628 00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.360 them together on the show at once. What do you think of that idea 629 00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:27.519 and who would you like to suggest we have on together? And if you 630 00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.760 have any questions or comments or suggestions about which two guests you'd like to hear 631 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:37.000 at the same time on talking to each other about game improvement, Please click 632 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.239 on the Hey Fred button when you visit golfsmarter dot com,