1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,360 If you want to get faster, just practice faster. Just do you have 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,960 a couple of times a week. Takes some time to try and go faster 3 00:00:08,919 --> 00:00:13,199 and work with a radar. Just that helps. And then the second major 4 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:18,359 thing is to like increase solshwing muscles in particular the ones that you using the 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,280 downs with and you can do some mesic band exercises. The band as symmetrics 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,760 a really good one to build your strength. Most people don't do anything for 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,359 their speed. So whether you're a lady, a junior, an amateur player, 8 00:00:31,559 --> 00:00:35,320 a senior that's not swinging as fast as you once did and you want 9 00:00:35,359 --> 00:00:39,119 to get a little bit of that speedback, just taking a little little time 10 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:43,240 a couple of times a week working on increasing your golf wing strength and practicing 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,960 swinging fast. The results that you can get into month really amazing. I 12 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:52,119 was consistently seeing twelve to sixteen miles an hour, which is thirty to forty 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,000 yards. Ah. It is Jeff Watson from then out of California and I 14 00:00:57,079 --> 00:01:03,200 play at Wiliwick Golf Course. This is golf number eight eight eight swing speed 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:10,159 training to increase your distance without bulking up like Bryson featuring Jacob About This is 16 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,159 Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf mines to help 17 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:21,200 you lower your score and raise your golf IQ. Here's your host, Fred 18 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:26,480 Green. Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast, Jacob. Hello, Fred, 19 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:32,239 lovely to be back again for the fifth time. Yeah, for the 20 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:36,599 fifth time. But the first time we met was fourteen years ago. You 21 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:42,640 were just a baby, you were just out of diapers, and I remember 22 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:49,000 that episode you were talking about chasing a championship. You were kind of new 23 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:53,840 to golf at the time, it feels like, but you had this idea 24 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:59,599 that you wanted to play in a national championship more than once. Well there, 25 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,840 see, that would have been two episode two and nine, two thousand 26 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,480 and nine. I turned pro in two thousand and three, so it was 27 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,879 early in my career. Two thousand and nine, I would have been thirty 28 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,719 three. And yeah, the whole, the whole idea was just when I 29 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,960 when I first started, It was twenty seven and I was a fourteen handicap 30 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,520 at the time, and the whole thing, I guess with the start of 31 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:30,560 my journey was like, can I make make it as a pro? Turn 32 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:34,800 from this a forty ndicap and make a living in golf and tim pro and 33 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:42,240 maybe one day getting getting a tour. So yeah, I mean I remember, 34 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,919 I kind of remember the conversation because I wasn't rolling my eyes at you, 35 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,599 like yeah, right, you're gonna make a tour event as a fourteen 36 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,039 handicap, But I just there was something about you that made me believe that 37 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,080 you could do it. Yeah. It was, I mean, kind of 38 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:07,680 crazy to think that, just to consider that, Yeah, being of the 39 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,800 fourteen ndicap as it had been different if it like, oh, you're a 40 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,240 fourteen handicap and you're fourteen years old, Like okay, you got got a 41 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,240 little bit more time, like some time to develop, but like, all 42 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,479 right, you're already an adult. You're like into adulthood, not you're just 43 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,680 an average golfer. Like what what I mean? This is kind of ridiculous 44 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,560 going for something like that. But yeah, I guess looking back at it 45 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,680 now, it's like I was working and worked at corporate job for five years 46 00:03:36,879 --> 00:03:42,280 and I wasn't particularly happy at Sports was always a big love of mine. 47 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:46,919 At a trial for the Twins with baseball, um, I played Division two 48 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:51,800 basketball in college, so sports was like super important to me, and after 49 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,240 neither of those worked out, I thought, well, I guess that's it. 50 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:02,400 And then there was a scene two thousand and one. So during that 51 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:05,560 five year period, I was thinking, gosh, what am I going to 52 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:09,680 do with my life? So I just started with a bucket list and like, 53 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,000 all right, let me just start doing some things off this list. 54 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:15,800 And one of the things on the list was to go to every major sports 55 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,160 event at least once, so like one super Bowl, one, NBA, 56 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:26,720 NHL, like you know, only said Stanley Cup. And I was working 57 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:32,720 and the PGA Championship happened to be in Atlanta when I was doing a corporate 58 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,879 education there and the last day got canceled, so I was like, oh, 59 00:04:36,959 --> 00:04:40,000 I got an extra day, like, let me go over to the 60 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,439 PJA Championship. And when I got so, I got myself to take it. 61 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,519 Went on the grounds. You've ever been to a tour man, you 62 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,839 know that, Like the players are playing on the course of course, and 63 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:57,680 then it's roped off and then all hands are on the side and as the 64 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,319 players passed, they opened up the ropes and let the the people crossed the 65 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:04,800 course basically, and there was this one spot on the course where they opened 66 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:10,519 up the ropes and I was the only person crossing and I got out there, 67 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,839 and all of a sudden, when I got in the middle, I 68 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:15,800 had the view of being inside the ropes being a player, and it was 69 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,560 the strangest thing, felt like a sky lit up and I got warm, 70 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,519 and I was like, wait a minute, like maybe I could be a 71 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:28,040 pro golfer. And it was just like this ridiculous thought. So it took 72 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,079 me about a year to like like consider, like I mean, is this 73 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:41,120 is this even peasable? And my job got there were a couple of buyouts, 74 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,160 and corporate culture is difficult when you're going through buyouts, so that I 75 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,079 got unhappy enough in the job. And then also I was like, you 76 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:55,680 know, um, twenty seven, but like maybe let me try and just 77 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,319 see, like and then I'll least know I've got Unlike other sports you got 78 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:03,399 to retire when you're thirty or thirty five. With golf, if you're healthy 79 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:06,319 and motivating, you can almost do it like a full career, playing to 80 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,240 your fifties and sixties. So it's like I got time. I've got a 81 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,600 little bit of background in other sports that maybe I can apply to this and 82 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:21,800 put together plan and give it a shot. And yeah, one day I 83 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,639 just kind of finally got the courage and to give it a goal and Google 84 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:31,120 return. And you've done many things. I mean, you were involved in 85 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:38,399 speed golf, you were involved in long drive championships, You've been involved in 86 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:44,000 tour events, You've done them all. Huh, Yeah, it's it's kind 87 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:49,120 of been. All of it was in an effort to just try and keep 88 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:56,079 keep keep things going and and with an end goal and just find way. 89 00:06:56,079 --> 00:07:00,800 It's just kind of survived it away and just because it's like, uh, 90 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:06,000 you know, I got myself good enough to turn pro pretty quickly, which 91 00:07:06,079 --> 00:07:10,680 was amazing in itself. But then once you're good enough to turn pro, 92 00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:14,560 it's like it's kind of like being a starving artist in a way. It's 93 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,480 like, unless you're in the top of the bunch, you could do amazingly 94 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,639 well at the half of the bunch, but for a lot of other people, 95 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:27,160 it's just it's the starving artist lifestyle. So I'm sleeping my car, 96 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,959 sleep in tents and just struggling, you know, trying to find ways to 97 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,079 patch it together and keep it going. And then in the process of doing 98 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,839 and I found my way into all these other things. So I competed in 99 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,480 long drives for a while and through that I kind of learned about swingsy training. 100 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,240 And that was part of the generalism of this swingman golf business that was 101 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,680 lost in two thousand and seven was people were curious, well and how I 102 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,879 made that transition from fourteen and handicapter pro. But then also, like I 103 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,399 don't know, I started hitting the ball longer, so that that was part 104 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:05,560 of the genesis of that, and then from that it got into UM speed 105 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,959 golf, which was really fun to be a part of UM. I finished 106 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,120 fifth in the World Championship with that, and and I remember in the two 107 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,560 thousand and twelve I believe they aired it right before the Masters on CBS, 108 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,879 so it was like cool to be part of that. In twenty thirteen, 109 00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:28,120 I had the I set the record for UM golf score at the World Championships 110 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:35,159 that shot us Ham and d two and fifty five minutes with six clamps UM. 111 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:39,399 So that was pretty cool and amazing. And then you know that all 112 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:45,240 those kind of things. It led to single length fires too, and I 113 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:52,840 believe we talked about the whole single length fires in twenty eighteen, so sterling 114 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:58,480 irons that we ran those from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty. Um so super 115 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:01,759 cool. I never would have thought were though in the beginning, like would 116 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:07,720 Bryson de Shambo played Um, No, he was playing single length irons at 117 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:15,039 the time, wasn't he? Whereas yes, yes he still is, um 118 00:09:15,039 --> 00:09:20,000 he just he originally signed with Cobe. Well we'll be back then up And 119 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,279 this is kind of a funny story too, actually, um, so I 120 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:28,320 was uh playing single like irons. I really believed in them. Uh. 121 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:31,919 In two thousand and seven, eight and nine, ten, I shot my 122 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:33,759 first round in the term around in sixties and I was like, yeah, 123 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:37,440 so I lunch singleing irons, but I felt like they needed to be improved. 124 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:41,440 And in twenty and ten, if you remember, the groove rule changed, 125 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,759 um, and none of the manufacturers wanted to update their their groove. 126 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:50,200 So I kind of had to go back to conventional variable lakes. That's for 127 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,440 a while, and I was trying to find a way how can I play 128 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,320 single like brons again? And so originally I asked Tom Washan of Washan gal 129 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,039 Um and he said he said no the first first time. He was not 130 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:13,279 a fan not at the time. That changed eventually and then um, and 131 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,159 then well, it was interesting when I went back to him for the second 132 00:10:16,159 --> 00:10:20,879 time, we decided to parner up on that with me, so he didn't 133 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:28,080 end up having to change of opinion on that. But sidebar we so I 134 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,679 was he hadn't yet changed his mind. So I was like, I asked 135 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,000 David a down the Dell golf like, hey, do you want to do 136 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:39,759 sing like irons? Like could you make me a set? And he said 137 00:10:39,799 --> 00:10:43,720 no. But then I later found out that Bryson, while he was still 138 00:10:43,759 --> 00:10:48,759 an amateur, went to David and also asked if he could make a single 139 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,960 link set of iron. So I don't know if I inadvertently planted the theme 140 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,840 and David said, it's like to do that or or or what. But 141 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:05,799 um, so David built Bryson his original set of Adele's, and then when 142 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:11,919 Bryson won the amateur he was with instead of Adele's, and then when he 143 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:18,559 turned pro he went with Cobra and then Cobur designed their single single like bars. 144 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:26,159 And when Bryson was going through that, I also asked him he was 145 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,759 more accessible then he could just message you on his book because he's still an 146 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:33,799 amateur at the time, and I was like, hey, Bryson, you 147 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:35,759 want like we're doing these sterling irons, like do you want to do? 148 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:39,759 You want to play? These? These are like way better and the performance 149 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,440 is fantastic, And we really saw kept a lot of the things that worked 150 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:50,399 in single length but fixed a lot of the story of problems also. But 151 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,360 he ended up going with Cobra, and I understand that because Cobra is able 152 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,240 to combine with Puma offered apparel and like, you know, a big, 153 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:05,399 big financial contract like I just couldn't be at the time. So um, 154 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:11,240 but it was interesting, like Bryson has been into long drive and single length 155 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:16,080 byron for you or that I forget the type of cap than you had. 156 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:20,080 But it's funny because I was like doing a lot of those same things before 157 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:24,440 him, although I didn't achieve the same level of playing the success that he 158 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,039 did. But it's interesting that we were just kind of like following. We 159 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:33,679 were interlaced a little bit and getting into long drive and doing speed golf us 160 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,279 sorry nut speak, golf fast used to be training single length f irons, 161 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,279 all these things. Mhm. Interesting, Hey, listen, we're gonna take 162 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:50,519 a time out. We'll be back right after this, Jacob, when you 163 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,919 were doing the long drive championships, um, and we'll get to speed golf 164 00:12:54,919 --> 00:13:00,320 too. But I'm just curious what the mindset is in long drive to champion. 165 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,759 I mean, everybody wants to hit the ball farther right, but competing 166 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,320 for long drive has got to be different than just hitting it farther off the 167 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,759 tea? Is there a Is there a huge mindset difference that you found between 168 00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:20,799 the two. It is a little bit different. Yeah. The average swing 169 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:24,960 speed of a PGA tour player now is about one fourteen and it kind of 170 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:28,519 rages on tour from one oh five to maybe one twenty five average usually each 171 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,159 year. And the typical long driver is going to be swinging one thirty five. 172 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,840 And then the top guys are in the one forties and even in the 173 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:45,519 one fifties now, so they're really really swinging fast, and there is the 174 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:52,080 vibe around the events are a little bit different. With golf. You're trying 175 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,320 to hit it far, of course, but you need to control it also. 176 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:03,879 So typically, at least in my measurements, guys are swinging ninety two 177 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,799 percent to ninety six percent of their max on the golf course. Um so 178 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:16,600 h. But in long drive. Oftentimes in long drive it's you're swinging as 179 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:20,919 hard as you can pretty much. Um, you don't have to get every 180 00:14:20,919 --> 00:14:24,360 single ball and you're just trying to get that one in. And typically long 181 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:30,919 drive is a little bit more ego, a little bit younger guys, more 182 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,399 guys in their twenties versus a broader range of like you know, twenties, 183 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:43,440 thirties, forties, fifties in golf. So to me that I guess I'm 184 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:48,840 kind of like more the spiritual side of golf appeals to me. M And 185 00:14:48,919 --> 00:14:52,639 I'm not particularly driven by my my my ego or money and power or whatever. 186 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,919 So, um, the that vibe around long drive is a little bit 187 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:03,159 different because it's all about you know, who has the longest drive. Um, 188 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,919 so it is different. That's the ego party referring to is just like 189 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,799 further than you were. Yeah there, I mean there there is a little 190 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,840 bit of that. You feel that a little bit when you go to those 191 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,519 events. Um so. Um. Not to say that there aren't egos and 192 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:28,759 regular golf also, but exactly there there there is a difference in how those 193 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:33,879 events feel and the goals also what you're trying to do UM long drivers to 194 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:39,799 there. I guess in both, you're trying to maximize your equipment as much 195 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:46,120 as you can. UM, you're trying to to be good and long drive 196 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,279 now you also have to have pretty good technique UM. Although the technique and 197 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,159 long drive is you're you're really trying to get all the power of pieces UM 198 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,919 and enough accuracy UH. In golf, you're trying to have a little bit 199 00:15:58,919 --> 00:16:04,200 of both. And then with the training swing sweet training starting to gain a 200 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,960 little bit more popularity now, I guess and awareness long drive guys have been 201 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,919 doing it that kind of stuff for a long time. No one swings as 202 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:21,120 fast as they do naturally, they're all working at it, working on their 203 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,679 bodies to be able to make their swings, but just as fast as possible. 204 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:30,159 And you're starting to see a little bit of that filter into like tour 205 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:37,559 to a golf now behind to the same extent was long drive, but I 206 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:45,000 think eventually that will filter down into regular golf and golf fitness and I guess 207 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,840 is popular. But you can be fit and not fast. So there's the 208 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:53,600 tour has a lot of fitness starting to do some speed work. They still 209 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:59,039 have a lot to learn, I think as far as the getting there called 210 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,480 dead speed up. And you see also that there's a correlation between speed and 211 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:10,039 handicaps. So any scenes starting, you see that in the data now. 212 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,759 So eventually that's going to find its way down on tour. I don't know 213 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:18,079 how long it's going to take, but I think that's coming. H Well, 214 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,440 it's you know, you talk about the egos, and one of the 215 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:29,599 things that we hear so frequently from instructors and tour players is that when you're 216 00:17:29,599 --> 00:17:33,200 playing competitive golf, and this could be recreational players as well, but when 217 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:38,079 you're playing competitive golf, you got to lose the ego. You can't you 218 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,480 know, on the golf course, you can't like yeah I can do this 219 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:44,119 shot because I've seen it on TV. No, man, if you haven't 220 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,880 practiced it, just don't try to be a hero that you don't know what 221 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,039 you know what you're doing so you can really get it. Yeah, keep 222 00:17:51,079 --> 00:17:57,680 that in check. There is a definitely a mental component in a wrangling of 223 00:17:57,799 --> 00:18:03,000 your go um, like do you should you hit a six iron when you 224 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:07,480 think you can get the seven iron there? Um? Are you affected by 225 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:14,279 their playing partners, and it's interesting to watch people sometimes when either they are 226 00:18:14,319 --> 00:18:18,519 the longest hitter and the effect it has on the group, or there you're 227 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:22,240 one of the other people in the group are longer than you, and how 228 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,559 sometimes that affects people and they maybe try and start doing things that swinging swinging 229 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:33,799 beyond what they can really control. So yeah, there's definitely a like UM. 230 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,440 I think as you developed as a golfer, there you kind of have 231 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:44,960 to reckon a little bit um with yourself internally to to get the most town 232 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:52,039 of yourself. You seem to have a thing for the s swing speed training 233 00:18:52,759 --> 00:18:56,200 UM, thinking that there's value or you believe there's value to it for everybody. 234 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:00,720 Let's talk about it a little bit on what you do for your swing 235 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:08,039 speed training, what you recommend UM swing speed training. That's been an interesting 236 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:11,960 evolution. When I first started, I competed in long Drive in two thousand 237 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:19,359 I think three stakes and Saturnum and back in launch Swingman Golf, which was 238 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:25,279 about swayers retraining primarily about swings from training the two thousand and seven, So 239 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:30,400 back then people didn't even a lot of the pushback out Again, people didn't 240 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,839 even believe that you could do that. And it's like you get even quotes 241 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,880 from like Tiger Woods and he'd be like, all right, well you dis 242 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,799 you God and you just you know, got um. And I remember one 243 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:52,960 time my introduction to Barney Adams or Adams Golf. One time I got a 244 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,680 I just opened up my email and I kept this blaming email like Barney Adams 245 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,519 is this like me, Barney Adams. He's like, what are you doing 246 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,000 making these claims that you can like increase just like no one can do that. 247 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:07,880 You can't do that. He's kind of funny, like that was my 248 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:15,359 intro to adving a relationship and party. But then he's a character. He 249 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:19,160 I just like having on and ask a question and he can riff on it 250 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:25,279 for twenty five minutes and just you know, he's so old school um that 251 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:32,440 it can it's sometimes humorous and sometimes insightful. But now with the swing speet 252 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,200 trading, it's it's evolved a little bit like Bryce and he wishes much I 253 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:44,079 who knows media attaching that he gets. He really brought a lot of attention 254 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:52,200 to like he actually change his body significantly, like really significant increasing swing speet. 255 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,000 But now, um, I mean he put on a lot of weight 256 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,880 to do that. But what people don't realize is you don't actually have to 257 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:06,200 on that kind of way to gain that kind of speed. So so swing 258 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:12,519 speed training is something that I think can benefit You can probably start doing it 259 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:25,119 in high school age like fourteen to eighteen, and then it helps regular golfers 260 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:30,200 just doing some basic things. Like there's too many things with swing speed training. 261 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:33,079 One, if you want to get faster, just practice faster. If 262 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:36,240 you just do that a couple of times a week, take some time to 263 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,240 try and go faster, and work with a radar. Just that helps. 264 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,359 And then the second major thing is to like increase the strength ashland muscles, 265 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,960 in particular the ones that you use in the down swing. And you can 266 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:56,480 do some just basic band exercises ymmetrically BANDI symmetrics are really good one to do 267 00:21:56,599 --> 00:22:00,279 for that to to build your strength. And if most people don't do anything 268 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:07,759 for their speed, So whether you're a lady, a junior, an amateur 269 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:11,960 player, a senior that's maybe not swinging as fast as as you once did 270 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,839 and you want to kind of cut that off or get a little bit of 271 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:19,400 that speedback. Just taking a little time and in a couple of times a 272 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:25,880 week working on increasing your golf wing strength and practicing swinging fast. The results 273 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,920 that you can get into a month really amazing. I was consistently seeing twelve 274 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,160 to sixteen miles an hour, which is thirty to forty yards. Whoa, 275 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,640 it's it's really significant. It does take a little bit of altow grease on 276 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,000 your party. You gotta put it in a little bit of work, but 277 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:48,359 it's there for the taking. Um, so it's not just for long drivers 278 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,799 or who are the ones that are mostly doing it, or tour players who 279 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:56,240 are starting. It's it's really for everyone, and you can take it as 280 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:03,680 as far as you want. I've had some oh I forget on the ladies 281 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,119 that were maybe swing in the fifties or sixties and then get up him seventies 282 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:14,759 or eighties. Wow, so you know, not a significant increase. And 283 00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:18,880 then like, um, there were a couple of guys. They were started 284 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,440 out in the nineties, which is a typical amateurial swing about ninety three miles 285 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:30,480 an hour, so just normal adventure swing speed, and then they well, 286 00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:33,440 probably about six months of work, got up in the warm thirties and one 287 00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:41,839 forties and started competing in longer and it's uh, what is forty miles an 288 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:51,279 hour is one hundred yards roughly, so they like literally added one hundred yards 289 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:56,039 to how far they were hitting. It's really amazing. So that's the extreme 290 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,240 end of like someone working really hard and being dedicated and doing all the things 291 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:06,640 that you can do to really increase speed. But it's any did they didn't 292 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,319 have to put on forty pounds away bryce to be able to achieve that. 293 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,480 It's just a lot of smart pity basically, and that's when a lot of 294 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:21,160 them Because we make golf stuff. We've been done the sleepy training stuff a 295 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:29,640 long time now since you thousn't stopping The PHAs magazine just launched this Golf Fitness 296 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:36,400 Association of America and we won all Marshal Awards um from the GIFF in the 297 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,079 last two years. But that's work can seems to be training. So it's 298 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:41,519 awesome. Um, it's it's a it's a really great thing, and you 299 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:45,759 don't you can do a lot with it. You don't have to be just 300 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,640 doing a few little basics can really make a big difference to anyone in this 301 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:55,000 golf game. Wow, hey, time for another quick time out. I 302 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,119 want to continue this part of the conversation. We'll be back right after this. 303 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,559 Okay, So you don't have to bulk up like Bryson to increase your 304 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:12,000 swing speed. And to increase your swing speed, you're going to get more 305 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,839 distance. The key to everybody They just want to learn how to hit it 306 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,119 better and think they're going to hit it farther. But you're saying the better 307 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,200 way to do that is, I guess go to swingman golf dot com and 308 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,960 start working with you on increasing your swing speed. Right. Well, the 309 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:36,880 um with swing speed, there's a correlation between swing speed and handicap. So 310 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,920 if you're interested in becoming a better player and lawyer your handicap and shooting scores, 311 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:47,319 more swing speed will help UM. And it's not one of the things 312 00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:49,240 I'll bump up into with people on this. It's like, oh, well, 313 00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:53,119 if I start swinging faster, I hit it off the planet or off 314 00:25:53,119 --> 00:26:00,359 the golf course. So there's there's it's important to differentiate between your control speed 315 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:06,400 and your max speed. So, like I said that, in my testing, 316 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:10,920 people can generally they always say like, oh, swing me eighty percent. 317 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,440 And I also wondered, like what what what is the real percentage. 318 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,799 So I test them the more to people, and it's typically people can keep 319 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,680 good control, pretty good control of ninety two to ninety six percent of their 320 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:27,440 max link. So that's what you want to play with. But with the 321 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,720 swing speed training, you're working on your one hundred percent. So the idea 322 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:37,160 is to raise your one hundred percent over time so that when you back off 323 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,640 to that to control your ball, basically it's gone up proportionally, if that 324 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:51,640 makes sense. Yeah, yeah, okay, I get that, and you'll 325 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,480 see it not just off the tea, You're going to see it with all 326 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:57,759 your clubs, right yeah, yeah, So, um, you know someone 327 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,799 might if they go up ten miles an hour, they're going to be twenty 328 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:10,000 five yards farther off the team. But you might pick up a club of 329 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,400 distance on your irons too, so you might be coming into the green with 330 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,680 the nine iron and six and it's it's really amazing to like to. I 331 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,200 was get a kick out of one night when I maybe played golf with someone 332 00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:30,960 before and after and who one of these gets this is one of in particular 333 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:37,839 Phil Reid m he was all author and ridden some both in California. I 334 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,680 played with him. Here's one of the initial people I did testing on, 335 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:47,240 and he was he didn't know. He felt like he didn't know how to 336 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,720 play his own old course that he played a billion times because he was just 337 00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:59,839 heading it into places that he'd never been before. Interesting kind of changes your 338 00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:03,759 game. So it's it's it's sweeps to be. Training is not the only 339 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:08,079 thing you can do, of course to become a better player and hit the 340 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:14,839 ball longer, but um, it isn't important. It is something you can 341 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,119 do, right if it can be a contributing factor, sure, yes, 342 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:26,160 yes, but its work. It does, um, I guess most of 343 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,000 it. Well, you could go through an equipment. I think that doesn't 344 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,559 take much work. But so that's kind of a little She'll maybe work on 345 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,920 your technique. Um, that takes a little bit of work. But you 346 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,680 know it was just a missing profound miss. Maybe he is trying them all 347 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,640 a little bit more. Um, so that there things to be. Training 348 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,599 does take a little bit of effort, um, but maybe not as much 349 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,480 as you think. And you certainly don't have to it on forty thou away. 350 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:59,519 Yeah. Yeah, so and you were also involved in speed golf, 351 00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:04,359 which is different than speed swing training. Yeah, speed swing, speed training, 352 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,599 right, right, a different kind of speed. Yeah, yeah, 353 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:17,160 tell me about that. I've always fascinated me. Speed golf is basically playing 354 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,559 golf as fast as you can and shooting as long as you can. And 355 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,559 so a speed golf score will take your golf score plus your time and that's 356 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:33,200 your speed golf score. So the idea, so it takes a little bit 357 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,759 of there's a little bit of stra in the speed golf world, eatier around 358 00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:42,119 a max or savy clumb. So basically like aside, if you took out 359 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:47,599 your odd arms or even arms, you basically have like what you could work 360 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,720 with. So but it's is, yeah, it's kind of interesting. So 361 00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:56,240 the strategy is kind of have to tailor to yourself, I guess. So 362 00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:03,160 for me, I'm to typically way about two fifteen and I'm sixteen, so 363 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,119 I'm a pretty large person. I'm not really gold for distance running, but 364 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,079 I'm a really great golfer. So for me, I like to carry. 365 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,119 I'll take a little less time, or I'll take more time on my running 366 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:18,759 and maybe be one of the slower runners with the World Championships, but I'll 367 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,559 be shooting the belt scorers, and so I'll take a full set of clump, 368 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,720 well seven six or seven clumps, whereas there was himmembering the one of 369 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,519 the World Championships. Bernardo Legatt was there and he's amazing to see watch or 370 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:38,359 to watch run in person. It's like just like a dear gazellets. It's 371 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:44,200 just kind of jaw dropping how beautiful it is to see someone like that run. 372 00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:49,240 So he's an excellent runner, but he's like not really a good golfer, 373 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,440 so he like, will you know, blow me out of the water 374 00:30:55,799 --> 00:31:00,079 on the run part, but his golf score will be higher, so you 375 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,880 know. So there's a little bit of strategy. So some people will take 376 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:10,759 like just a sixth is and and play. So you're carrying less and you 377 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:14,640 can run faster, so you take that. You can use your advantage from 378 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,920 that and then just try and shoot a reasonable score with your one club. 379 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,119 So it's it's it's interesting. I guess what people try and do and sure 380 00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:26,920 the strategy is left the jake. Sure, what was in your bag? 381 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,000 What do you carry when you're um when you're playing speed golf, are you 382 00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:36,240 focus more on wedges or longer clubs? What do you do? How do 383 00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:42,400 you do it? I took a putter, and I'm most everyone's going to 384 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,200 take a putter unless you take shot, say a six iron, and you 385 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,599 try and blade it a little bit to put it. I'm so I had 386 00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,000 a putter, and then I was like, all right, let me take 387 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,519 a driver. Also, some guys will take like a three winter. I 388 00:31:55,599 --> 00:32:00,000 took a driver, um, because I don't mind taking a little bit off 389 00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:05,559 and the driver. I can get a partial drive with a driver, which 390 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,640 some people might think would be kind of hard, but it's like played not 391 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,519 too too bad to do. Us would just practice with it a little bit. 392 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,079 I'm so I could hit a driver three wood distance or hygdwood distance, 393 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:21,880 and then between that it's like I think I would. I didn't want to 394 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,359 take a lob wedge because you could open up like say a sandwich or a 395 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,079 gap wedge to play flop shots were on the green if you need to, 396 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,480 but with a sixties degree like a lobwudge, you can't hit it as far 397 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,200 as like say a gap wager sandwind. So I would typically take the gap 398 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,519 wiser sandwich because I could get a little bit of distance, but then I 399 00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:46,039 could still easily around the green, and then between that I would kind of 400 00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:52,160 like divvy up. I'd try spacing out as best as I could, so 401 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:58,400 I might take We'll see, so I drive or a player and it's too 402 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:05,960 or a little jobs I take like a wedge and then maybe like eight iron 403 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:08,720 a five iron, like a herd. So just kind of like space it 404 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,799 out, um, so that you can kind of have a pretty even spread 405 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:20,079 or on your distances, and then you just kind of feel out the jobs 406 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,279 and you can play a lot of a lot of partial shots or if you're 407 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,400 if you're good at hitting draws or face you can like do like that. 408 00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:31,720 Um. Yeah, so it's it's it's it's fun. Um well, I 409 00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:37,599 guess I enjoyed aspects of feed golf. I enjoyed the creativity. It's been 410 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,920 golf. Um, I'm you're not really a distance from there, so like 411 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,200 I don't I didn't really. I liked I like casual jogging, um, 412 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,599 but when you're in the World Championships, you're like really really rubbing it up. 413 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,200 So it's like, you know, I did the Abandon Dunes and how 414 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,680 many two and fifty minutes, so it was like fifty five minutes of fifty 415 00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:08,599 five minutes of pain of just Yeah, it's it's really uncomfortable to like to 416 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,480 be running as hard as you know, getting your heart read up really really 417 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:20,800 high just to stay so yeah, can get Yeah, abandoned dunes could get 418 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,800 pretty windy and you're running in that. Um. And also it's the kind 419 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,400 of golf course you want to absorb as much as you can. You don't 420 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,239 want to be done in an hour abandoned dunes right right right, unless you're 421 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,960 competing for speed golf. Well that's the thing about it too, is like 422 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:42,360 you know, at the World Championships, you are trying to do as fast 423 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,039 and you can. But if you want to do be golf casual recreationally, 424 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,559 it's kind of a it can be a cool thing to do. So you 425 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,840 know, one of the complais about golf as it takes a long time, 426 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,199 so you got to get to work it. Whatever. You could pop out 427 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,920 to your course, be one of the first people off, Yeah, the 428 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,400 first guys off the teeth. You can't have anybody in front of you, 429 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,760 and then you played nine holes. But you could just kind of just do 430 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,519 a very very light god and finished career though and do nine holes in an 431 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:20,639 hound a half or something. Um, So you can get your nine holes 432 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,400 in um and still you know, be able to get to work on the 433 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,800 whatever. So that's one way to do an or sometimes it's good to go 434 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:35,519 at the end of the day. Also because sometimes I took for training, 435 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:38,760 I would go out at the end of the day and most people, you 436 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,480 know, an hour before sunset, no one is going off the first tea 437 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:47,760 because they're just not gonna have time to finish nine holes. So you can 438 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,559 go to the first that first team and then play a few holes and then 439 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,840 maybe if the courses are back and forth that course, he can skip over 440 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,599 a hole and then loop back and just do the first second terminal again and 441 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,920 just kind of do it that way. But it's an interesting way to get 442 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,039 a bit of exercise and get a little admit of cardio in and if you 443 00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:15,039 want to go a little STARTI stan John Morris. Even my friends who do 444 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,880 cardio, I don't think they like to do it on the golf course. 445 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:21,559 I have a friend that I play with regularly who's a runner, but it's 446 00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:23,440 like, yeah, I'm not interested in running. With my golf clubs, 447 00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:29,480 I listen, you know, we have golf smarter mulligans is when we play 448 00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:35,920 the older episodes and we bring them back and we'll be getting to you know, 449 00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,880 one of the second episode you were on in twenty twelve was a member's 450 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,199 only episode, so it's never been heard before. So I don't think that's 451 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,880 coming up too soon, but it is going to be coming up, so 452 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,719 hopefully we'll do that. But let's find out what's happening in golf Smarter Mulligans 453 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,679 this weekend, because it's time for Tony Manzoni. This week is number five 454 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,000 of nine in our Tony Manzoni series to help you launch your new golf season. 455 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,119 In this episode, we talk about a variety of topics, including growing 456 00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,880 up in the shadow of greatness and shot making. But you should be able 457 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:16,039 to take a pitching one job and hit it fifty sixty, seventy eighty. 458 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,239 You should be able to hit it all those distances. That's called shot making. 459 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,239 The great players like Holding, he would hit every club in the bag 460 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:29,679 and during a practice around twenty five times, and he hit them different trajectories 461 00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:32,079 left or right, right to left, high and low. And he could 462 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:36,840 stand out there and with his whole set of clubs and hit a green about 463 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,400 one fifty one sixty with every club in the bag, including the driver, 464 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:44,920 so he had the ability to speed it up or slow it down and still 465 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,119 make a legitimate swing and hit the ball flush. That's what's missing today. 466 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,920 If a person would take the clubs that they have and practice with them and 467 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,920 use them for different distances, you'd be surprised they could literally eliminate some of 468 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,239 the clothed in their bag and still and still be able to play without any 469 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,599 problem. That's Golf Smarter Mulligan's episode two hundred four, the fifth of nine, 470 00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:12,840 featuring our friend and mentor Tony man Sony. Check the show notes to 471 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,960 learn how to get Tony's book The Lost Fundamental One Simple Move, Better Golf 472 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,920 Forever and gain access to his video of the same name. Please subscribe for 473 00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:28,519 free to our sister podcast that revisits the best of the Golf Smarter podcast called 474 00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:37,559 Golf Smarter Mulligan's being released every Friday from wherever you're listening right now. And 475 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:43,519 with all those dreams that you had, my friend of like seeing like you 476 00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:45,000 walk in the middle of a golf course during a term of going, I 477 00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:50,519 can do this. I can be a professional golfer. You have played on 478 00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:58,480 tour you've had some tour experience, tell me about that. Yeah, I've 479 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,920 played. I haven't yet played in a PGA Tour event. I've done, 480 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,320 uh, some qualifiers for tour PGA Tour events, but I have played a 481 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:15,159 lot of other There's a lot of other various tours in the world. I'll 482 00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:21,840 still have done the Cutsky Tour or the Hooters are done, Open qualifying, 483 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:28,199 britsh Old qualifying, US Open qualifying, PJ qualifying. I think I finished 484 00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:34,599 off with the Poland Open, with the Challenge Tours, still calm. The 485 00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:40,320 Challenge Tours Europe's uh, it's kind of like a Burnfur Tour of European DP 486 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,599 World Tour and constantly changing the names. But I played in the getting on 487 00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:50,039 this too. The sponsor is that month. You're right, I played the 488 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:57,239 Tusker Canyon Open, So like, um, coming looking back now, UM, 489 00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:00,159 I started this when I was twenty s don't know. I'm forty seven 490 00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:06,360 now, twenty a year and looking so I have a bit of hindsight now. 491 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:13,519 And and although I haven't didn't or maybe I haven't yet played a PGA 492 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:22,079 Tour event, I've really had some amazing and remarkable experiences in golf. You 493 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:28,639 know, aside from playing like I did caddy on caddy the Balero Texas Open, 494 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,760 I caddied in the Senior Major, and doubt Parmy job being hest like, 495 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:42,280 I've had just really um amazing, amazing golf experiences and so it's uh 496 00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:50,440 yeah, it's it's been amazing. Have you ever gotten a sponsor exemption? 497 00:40:52,719 --> 00:41:01,480 Uh? Not to a PGA Tour event. I did try and go for 498 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:07,639 one, um with an AT and T Pebble Beach program. Um. And 499 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:13,960 I was like they they told me because I got a lot of my calls 500 00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:20,159 and he's starting on the Monarch and so I met my wife, my now 501 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,599 wife, UM on the Modern Dance Loom and she was in grad school there. 502 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:28,199 So um, that area of the country it's loped to me. And 503 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,960 UM. So I was like, they told me I was one of this 504 00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:38,000 past year, one of the fin people. They ended up going to somebody 505 00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:42,719 else. But I was like, right during the running, so I haven't 506 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,639 gotten one. Yeah, Um, perhaps I'll get one. Um. I 507 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,480 live in Detroit now and um, the Rocket Mortgage Classic is here and so 508 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,320 I schemed my name in the hot for one for this year. It's it's 509 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,880 marched down this the term was growing up in June. Made your decision in 510 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:08,960 May. The UM the Rock and Mortgage and is the we're big sponsor. 511 00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:22,639 UM from Detroit is a very important building up of Detroit. And I'm currently 512 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:29,639 the one way myself and another guy who's sixty, I believe are the only 513 00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:34,960 prods that lived in city mbits. So I think, like, I haven't. 514 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,559 I mean, we'll say, yeah, I haven't. I think I 515 00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:40,239 haven't good shot at getting more this year, just because I am here in 516 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:45,519 the city and really involved in the city today in my life that I did. 517 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,480 We be a part of an effort to play one hundred and fifty trees 518 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:58,400 in our neighborhood. Um so, I have a letter recommendation from our neighborhood 519 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:05,320 Association from city council. Um so, there's a good package. There's a 520 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,159 lot of plant those in to get. I'm glad to be in the money. 521 00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:14,920 I hope you get one and we'll see, we'll see what happens. 522 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,119 We'll turn out in a couple of woods. Yeah, Oh, fingers crossed 523 00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:22,159 for you, buddy. Amazing, that would be amazing. That would be 524 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,800 nice. That would be And then this year with the BM my twentieth year 525 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,960 I turned pro into why the first week of July twenty two, thousand and 526 00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:38,760 three and just in thousand, last week of June will be twenty three, 527 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:44,280 So it's it's basically it would be like a really cool thing to to get 528 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:51,400 in the plan this tournament because it's almost exactly twenty years. Um wow wow. 529 00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,360 And then, so what do you want to do for your twentieth anniversary 530 00:43:54,639 --> 00:44:00,559 playing? There's obviously plays, Oh yeah, but play? Are you gonna 531 00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:05,920 like do anything to say? Now looking back in my twenty years of starting 532 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,840 to wanting to be a golfer, to becoming a pro, to teaching, 533 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:15,000 to becoming an entrepreneur, to getting involved in various businesses, and like, 534 00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:20,280 you've been doing so much over this twenty years, it's really impressive. Yeah. 535 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,440 Um, well, next year I'm thinking about doing in a second generation 536 00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:29,519 of the Sterling Irons Singling Clearnce. That's there's no hard date on that, 537 00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:31,800 but that's that's a possibility. But that's next year. I'm so okay. 538 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:39,920 This year twenty at the air and was consoling um writing a book. Was 539 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,800 the tentative title in my mind was twenty years on Tour Life Lessons learned through 540 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:52,760 my journey and professional golf. UM. So I have a lot of notes 541 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:59,360 hashed out already for what would go in that. UM. I've had some 542 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,960 really amazing experiences, done a lot of things that I never thought I would 543 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:13,679 have done, learned a lot about myself and life. So now I think, 544 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,639 yeah, you know, I still have some years left in my career. 545 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,280 UM, but now I would would be a perfect point, a perfect 546 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,079 marker to kind of like say, you know, it's been twenty years, 547 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:34,760 what's happened here and and maybe put something together that people hopefully found interesting, 548 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:45,079 maybe people finding maybe inspirational or help them and wow in their lives and in 549 00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:50,880 some capacity. So we'll say it's it's it's just in the notes stage. 550 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,719 But you know that's how these things start. It's it's just it starts with 551 00:45:53,760 --> 00:46:00,639 an idea like this mystery and their neighborhood. Yeah, exactly, my wife 552 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,239 moved to here and we're just walking around our neighborhood, and the eats us 553 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,599 to kind of wind out, you know there we need more trees in the 554 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:15,480 in the in our in our neighborhood. That UM. Probably about fifty years 555 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:20,960 ago in Detroit, there was the city lost half a million trees um, 556 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,360 and it used to Detroit used to be called the City of Trees and um 557 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:30,159 then that all these trees got wiped out. So there's just a ton of 558 00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:34,320 like places when you drive around where it's like, oh, there, there 559 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,119 used to be a tree there, there, there's a planter there, but 560 00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:40,400 it's not there anymore. And so we just started out with this little idea 561 00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:45,400 like no more trees. So one night we just went out and walked around 562 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:52,360 our neighborhood and we like marked every single place that uh needed a tree and 563 00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:57,000 wrote the address down. And then sure enough, there's a nonprofit here on 564 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:02,880 the greening of Detroit that was looking to play at trees and they didn't know 565 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,760 where they're going to plan them, and we inadvertently ran into them and said, 566 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,119 hey, we got two hundred trees that we were we know the spots 567 00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,199 that they need, and enough they were able to give us one hundred and 568 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,639 fifty years. So these kind of things, like you know, this book 569 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,760 at this stage is just an idea, but like that's how all these things 570 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,159 start. It is just someone thinks about it and then and then takes actions 571 00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:32,280 as the courage and strength to take action on it and then be to comp 572 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,679 with a plan and start on it and then be persistent and make it you 573 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:43,079 know, adapt along the way. Um, and then just pick away at 574 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,920 and then well and hold one day you know you have a sweet spy training 575 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,800 business or your own branded golf clubs and or like you're a professional golfer, 576 00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:57,039 you know, so on the plank currently, right, So when we first 577 00:47:57,039 --> 00:48:01,360 started talking years ago, you were just swingman golf. And I don't even 578 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:08,920 think at the time Swingman Golf that even the technology was available to be giving 579 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:15,000 lessons online. Is that primarily what you're doing these days is giving lessons online 580 00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:20,039 through that platform. Yeah, that was yeah in two thousand and seven, 581 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,880 Um, social media was just kind of starting. YouTube was just starting that. 582 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,559 Two thousand and seven was the year the iPhone came out, during the 583 00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:37,159 launched of no smart bones yet and how I do matter one has a smart 584 00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:45,000 bond. Oh, So the the technology back then, it was really innovative 585 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:51,280 to like kind of take golf instruction and golf training online back then. Um, 586 00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:55,320 so yeah, it was kind of at the start of that I was 587 00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,079 saying, or more towards the beginning of the stack of thing, particularly in 588 00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:06,239 golf when golf is kind of about slowed them to adapt sport and slowed them 589 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:14,440 in the sport. Um. So I remember I tell people like like Bob, 590 00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:21,079 people just didn't get it. And now like now that's more. Yeah, 591 00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:23,519 I wouldn't say it's common, but like there was, there was YouTube, 592 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:29,519 there's and influencers and a lot of people have websites and those kinds of 593 00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:31,519 things. So the technology has really come around. And yeah, so like 594 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:36,320 I still have about swimming golf website, it's still up and running, it's 595 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:42,400 still working, We're still leaking up its um there's still activity and there's people 596 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,199 you know, working on their spling speed and I was I was still here. 597 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,119 Great, great, well buddy, it was great to catch up with 598 00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:52,280 you. It's been a long time. We've now we've seemed to have known 599 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:57,599 each other a long time now, and I appreciate you agreeing to come back 600 00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:00,239 on golf Smarter. Great talking to you again now, good luck. Yes, 601 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,039 thank you so much for having me back on. And I always enjoy 602 00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:07,519 You're always fun to talk to you. Yeah, I love it. 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