WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:30.480 Weird things happened in the Weird Weird Weird Welcome Too. Let's just said, 2 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:34.359 so you know who we are, you know what let me I wanted to 3 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:38.000 show this. I can't. Yeah, I can't remember who sent this, 4 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:41.439 but someone. I'm gonna find it before the end of the episode. Hopefully 5 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:45.200 someone sent us these dope three D printed Medatrons cubes. We do have a 6 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:48.799 po box. Put your hand behind it so it focuses on. Yeah. 7 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:53.359 Yeah, there're these little three D printed Medatrons cubes. Very cool. I 8 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:55.520 love it. I had literally been thinking in my head like man, I 9 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:57.920 want a three D Menotrons cube, and then boom, it was sent to 10 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.640 us. Yeah, they are so cool. It was a complete prize that 11 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:03.359 came out of nowhere. I just showed up today and they were like, 12 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.799 hey, here's your Metatron's cube. It's like, huh, I've been sitting 13 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:08.760 here twiddling with it for like the past thirty minutes. It's pretty to look 14 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:12.560 at. It's beautiful. I love it. So whoever sent this to us, 15 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:15.840 thank you so much. I'm gonna find it in Instagram DMS. And 16 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.319 then another thing. Alex and I did full disclosure the other night and we 17 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.359 were talking about this and we were like, we should say this on the 18 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:30.799 main show, but shout out to Blake and Daniel in the discord aka Blacke 19 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.439 and Captain Skippy. They have, of their own volition, created a clan 20 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:38.920 on Rocket League. Bledsoe said so podcast. They're both like Diamond ranked, 21 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.920 right, and they're going out there. They're like whipping people's butts on Rocket 22 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.599 League with the clan. Bledso said so podcast, and they're like pitching the 23 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.400 show to people and actually like getting them to listen to the show. I 24 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.640 thought that was so cool. We had to shout that out. Yeah, 25 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:56.760 I only briefly heard about that. I've been very busy of late and I 26 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.200 just briefly saw a little thing about it, and like, I thought it's 27 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.239 so funny. So they just did. They just started doing that. Yeah, 28 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:05.400 they were like, oh, shoot, you play Rocket League. Yeah, 29 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.439 my clan's old. He's like, my clan's old too, let's make 30 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:10.560 a new one. Letso said so podcast. Ryan. And for the people 31 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:15.280 who don't know, what is full disclosure, Oh, it's our it's our 32 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:20.319 first Patreon show at the five dollars Tier the River and it's uh, it's 33 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.719 me. And then Alex obviously they were producing, and we just have conversations 34 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:27.879 typically about like what's on my mind or whatever I'm into at the moment, 35 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.000 and just kind of really venting some stuff out and being super candid, and 36 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:35.360 we really have a good time with it. We just did episode forty who 37 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.319 almost a year. That's amazing, pretty wild and and you know, before 38 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:42.199 you guys know it, we should have some other Patreon stuff coming out soon. 39 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:46.840 So yeah, so if y'all want to see that super exclusive extra bonus 40 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:52.360 show patreon dot com slash bled show, it is a great way to support 41 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.719 the show. Yeah. Absolutely, Well we're talking about today, fellers. 42 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:07.520 We are going to talk about nor Viking. I was trying to do the 43 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:12.759 God of War got your boat? I was gonna say, is that is 44 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:15.680 that where that comes from? Yeah? What really is that? Where what 45 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:20.360 comes from? No? No, no, no, no no, no, 46 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.759 no no no. I was singing the thing from God of War Ragnarok, 47 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:28.400 which, by the way, that's I don't know. Like, obviously 48 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:31.680 y'all can see if you can see my tattoo, my favorite game is Kingdom 49 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:37.000 Hearts. But when that got a war game came out in twenty eighteen, 50 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:40.520 bro, it challenged everything I thought I knew about video games. That that 51 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:44.639 that game. That game put me in a different headspace. I've been thinking 52 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.280 different after after that. It's got me thinking different. Did it go a 53 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:51.039 Game of the Year? It did? Yes? Uh, it won Game 54 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:54.680 of the Year. And I don't remember if the second one one game of 55 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:58.000 the year. No, No, because it came out the same year as 56 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:00.319 elden Ring. I think yea, which is like it was out of all 57 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.599 hale, all hale. Yeah, first one was definitely game of the year. 58 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:09.000 Yeah, and like you can't beat elden Ring. That game is unbeatable. 59 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:15.000 But I mean they're they're potentially in terms of every aspect of a game. 60 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:19.360 The twenty eighteen God of War and then God of War Ragnarok are like 61 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:26.040 they're right next to Kingdom Hearts for my favorite game of all time. The 62 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:32.639 thing that's so awesome about God of War as a series is that it's so 63 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:38.720 deeply entwined with mythology. Uh. And I know this is a little tangent, 64 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:42.600 but we are talking about Norse mythology today. Uh. The the original 65 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.480 God of War games are Greek mythology. It's about like a Spartan named Crados. 66 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.120 It's you know, he gets betrayed by the god Aris and he like 67 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:56.439 basically kills the entire Greek pantheon to get revenge because aries, dude, this 68 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.879 is crazy. Alex. You probably, I guess you probably don't know this 69 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:04.639 Ari, god of War, tricks Credos into killing his own wife and daughter, 70 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:12.480 and that's like kind of how the plot of the original games start. 71 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:19.920 And then the rest of the original games are just you playing as Credos brutally 72 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:26.759 murdering the entire Greek pantheon of gods to get revenge. It's sick. It 73 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.800 is so good. I remember when the first one came out in two thousand 74 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:31.680 and five, I was like twelve and played it on the PS two and 75 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:33.560 it was just like, oh my god, Like, first of all, 76 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.079 twelve year old shiit be playing that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah for 77 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:40.720 sure. But yeah, it was definitely like a life changing, like you 78 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:44.879 know, it's just an amazing experience. And then you know what it became 79 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:48.079 over time into the North stuff. Yeah, that's another cool thing. Like 80 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:54.160 I learned a lot about Greek mythology from playing those original games. Yep. 81 00:05:54.279 --> 00:06:00.120 And then basically the original trilogy ends with you obviously murder your father Zeus, 82 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:04.240 and then the world floods and all this stuff happens, and next thing you 83 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:10.199 know, it was like, I don't know, probably ten or twelve years 84 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:14.399 later they made the next game, Boom Crados pops up in the Norse. 85 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.720 He's like in Scandinavia and so it's the Norse pantheon and he's just trying to 86 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:23.040 like stay reclusive. I like how this is turning into a God of War 87 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:26.879 episode. There was a couple of other Norse pop culture things that I wanted 88 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:29.720 to talk about. Yeah, yeah, but then, yeah, you play 89 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:32.600 through that game and it teaches you a ton about Norse mythology as well. 90 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:38.759 There were plenty of things that I learned that I didn't know before, like 91 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:46.439 Balder. Like about Balder, I didn't know that, Like Ragnarok starts because 92 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:50.959 Balder is killed, I didn't. I didn't know that We're gonna go in 93 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.600 to make sense. That's like the plot of the game, exactly what you 94 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.879 killed Balder in the that's the first one, and then Boom starts. The 95 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.079 next game is Ragnarok. Yeah, yeah, I love that. When you 96 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.920 kill Balder in the first game, immediately the first thing that happens is a 97 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:09.600 snowflake hits his cheek immediately, like as soon as you land the killing blow, 98 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.639 you see a snowflake and it falls on it's fimble winter. Its deep, 99 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:16.199 Yeah, it is, it's so deep. Okay. So Norse mythology, 100 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:21.759 Norse mythology is we were talking about it earlier. It's it's unique. 101 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:28.600 It's it's particularly unique when it comes to mythology. It was like pretty much 102 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:34.800 written by like one guy for the most partology. Well, the eddas like 103 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:39.439 the you know, so let's let's start with a little bit of the early 104 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.079 history, which I think you have some history stuff, not really history, 105 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:47.519 more so like mythological. So check it out. The Norse mythology. The 106 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:55.000 the roots of it come from this like dual document, this book containing to 107 00:07:55.199 --> 00:08:00.199 it was like a book containing two books known as the Edda or the Eta, 108 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:11.279 the two books or the medieval Icelandic literary works. They're the poetic or 109 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:16.519 sorry, yeah, the poetic Eta and the pros Da, which this is 110 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:28.160 really interesting ida like etymologically it's it could mean either poetic art, but it 111 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:33.960 also equally translates to great grandmother. What that's weird. Yeah, it's just 112 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:39.720 like a weird little tidbit, but the Ida was written by an Icelandic scholar 113 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:46.919 and historian Snorri Sterlison around the year twelve twenty. Did you say snory, 114 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:54.879 Yeah, man, I guarantee you he was saw on logs, just saw 115 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.360 on logs. He was saw on logs. He was probably like rolling offs 116 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.600 rooms or like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, because they have all 117 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:07.759 those Icelandic stories. Uh what's that? Uh Laplin? Yeah, yeah, 118 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.600 they had them. They definitely had that. He was probably popping them and 119 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.559 stawing some logs. He was snoring some Starlason's. Wait a minute, is 120 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:24.279 this the same region and mushroom where the Christmas originated? I mean yeah, 121 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.919 that that's lap Laplin Finland, Right, it's all Scandinavia. I don't know. 122 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:37.039 I feel like I remember the the shamanistic Santa Claus. My sister's been 123 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:41.000 to the real place, Laplin. We're all just like dumb Americans. It 124 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:46.240 is it is. It's in Scandinavia. Don't don't pigeonhole me there. You're 125 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.279 just mad because I'm thinking different. I'm seeing things different now. Really, 126 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:56.440 it sounds like Snorri Sterlinson was definitely seeing things different. But yeah, it's 127 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:01.519 uh, the survives in four known manuscripts and three fragments. You know, 128 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.720 this stuff is so old. They find it and they piece it together and 129 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:09.159 they translate it ancient. Yeah, it's super agent. And then so they 130 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.200 wrote everything down that they collected again around the year thirteen hundred, so it 131 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:20.240 was like found collected around one hundred years after that. So basically, unlike 132 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:26.320 a lot of other mythology, this is like someone who claimed to be kind 133 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:33.639 of downloading this information from the realm of Valhalla, which is like they're sort 134 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.799 of like they're heaven. You know, in Norse mythology, there are different 135 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:43.320 there are multiple different afterlifs, which we see in other mythologies. We see 136 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:48.000 that in Greek mythology. You know, it's not just like heaven Hell. 137 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:54.039 It's there's multiple, right, but kind of the like the ultimate afterlife, 138 00:10:54.240 --> 00:11:01.080 if you will, in Norse mythology is Valhalla. Right, it's like the 139 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.080 hall where you celebrate with the gods for all eternity. Right. Yeah, 140 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:09.360 yeah, it died in battle exactly. You only according to this like it 141 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.320 wasn't even really a religion among amongst the vikings. It was like it's like 142 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:18.039 low key. It was more culty. Yeah, they didn't even view it 143 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:24.679 as a religion, Like it was so deep that it was just a part 144 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:28.080 of their lives. It wasn't something they had to try to do or commit 145 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.639 to or whatever. If you were like born in this time and born into 146 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.159 one of these Viking tribes or whatever, it was just that's just what you 147 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:41.799 did. You you you wanted to die in battle so that you would pass 148 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.600 on to Valhalla. It's messed up because they believe like the only way to 149 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:48.919 get the valhalla is literally dying in battle. And like if you died of 150 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.600 like being sick or being elderly, you didn't go to Valhalla. No, 151 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:58.639 no, no, only in battle. It was considered like like dishonorable. 152 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.759 Yeah, like the most shame if you don't die in battle. To the 153 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:07.240 point to where like if people were elderly or they were sick, it was 154 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.360 very common for them to be like they would even go to some of their 155 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:16.639 friends or some of like the the able warriors of the tribe and be like 156 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.240 fight me, kill me, like like, let's I want to die in 157 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.000 battle, so like I want a chance to go to Valhalla and be with 158 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.799 my my forefathers. That's so cool, and that's pretty I think it really, 159 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.639 I mean it, it is pretty cool. I mean it's valiant, 160 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:39.039 you know, it's it's dope. But one of the things about Valhalla, 161 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:41.759 which because you hear that, you're like, okay, so why is that 162 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:46.919 the ultimate heaven if it's just like you die in battle you get to go 163 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:52.240 to a big hall with all your forefathers. Well, this is a very 164 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:58.039 interesting thing about Norse mythology which connects to Christianity, which is that there is, 165 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:05.120 uh, there is a thing in Norse mythology known as Eden's orchard. 166 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.559 Okay, like the golden apple, Yes, Ethan is like how it's from 167 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:18.879 Ethan's apple, Ethan's orchard, Ethen's tree. Uh. So very similarly to 168 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:26.879 Christian like doctrine, whatever you want to call it the Christian religion. Eden 169 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:31.720 is the goddess of youth, She's the wife of Braggy, She's the goddess 170 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:37.759 of or no Broggi is the god of poetry. Eden guards the golden apples 171 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:43.840 in Eden's orchard. These apples were said to give eternal youth and vigor to 172 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.840 the gods. So, according to Norse mythology, the reason that these gods 173 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:54.919 were so powerful and immortal was because of these golden apples that came from Eden's 174 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.600 orchard. That's similar to Greek mythology the golden blood ecor the apples. Yes, 175 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:03.240 yes, absolutely, yeah, I mean this is something that I wanted 176 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.600 to touch on a little bit up front, is like, why are we 177 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.240 talking about mythology? Right? Yeah, why is it important to talk about 178 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:13.960 mythology? Well, one of the things that we do on this show, 179 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:20.559 and a lot of like like theosophy for instance, that's that's another thing that 180 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:24.879 you look at the intersection, You look at the things that different religions or 181 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:30.000 mythologies or whatever have in common. And yeah, I mean you'll find so 182 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:37.120 many similarities that Norse myth has similarities to pretty much every other major religion. 183 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.000 Like we're going to talk about some similarities to Hinduism. It reminds me of 184 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:45.600 oh, in what way thee the tree of life? But all the realms 185 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.279 are connected by this tree, and ye travel through the tree to reach the 186 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.320 other dimensions. But it's metaphorical. Yeah, it's like there's always some trees. 187 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.879 Yeah, there's always trees. Yeah, the Tree of Knowledge in the 188 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:58.799 in the Bible, yeah, in the Garden of Eden and the Fruit from 189 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:07.240 the t It's so we're jumping, like if you jump to uh. In 190 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.720 Norse mythology, there is a at the end, there's a prophecy that at 191 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:18.879 the end of time there is this cataclysmic apocalypse event known as Ragnarok. Right, 192 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.960 It's like where everything is destroyed and blah blah blah, and that's all 193 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.200 you really know. If you don't look deep into this stuff, you're just 194 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.720 like, oh, everything is just blown up and everything's destroyed. Well, 195 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:37.159 that's not really the end of it. It's more mystical than that. Ragnarok 196 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:43.360 isn't the end. It's a beginning of a new realm, which is like 197 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:50.919 Hindu cosmology, where you have the Yugas cycles spanning many thousands of years, 198 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.960 and it's these eternal cycles of the universe creating and then destroying itself and then 199 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.840 creating again, like the dance, the eternal Dance of Shiva, Creator and 200 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:07.399 the Destroyer exactly. And it's low key like some low key it's it's low 201 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:14.080 key like some as above so below reincarnation type shit. It's like if we 202 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:17.960 reincarnate on this little level, then on all the higher levels. Uh, 203 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.679 there's reincarnation as well. But the reason I bring all this up right now 204 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:29.320 is in relation to Eden's Orchard. Eden's orchard is thought to be, according 205 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:33.480 to these prophecies and such, one of the only things that survives Ragnarok. 206 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:41.279 Oh wow. And it's also thought now this is these things like post Ragnarok 207 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:47.399 type things. These are the things that are like pieced together by historians like 208 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:52.360 deep reading the different texts and corroborating this exactly. Like you won't just pick 209 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:55.440 up the Eata and see this. It's like you look at other works by 210 00:16:55.519 --> 00:17:00.840 Snorri Sturluson. You piece together things from like a real accounts of Scandinavia at 211 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:10.079 the time, whatever has survived through history. They believe that certain gods will 212 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:15.839 survive. I'll talk about that and at length later, but that Eden's tree 213 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:22.720 in Eden's Orchard would also survive, and that like whoever were the survivors among 214 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:27.279 the gods, among the valkyrie, among all these different orders of these deities, 215 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:33.279 they would go there and start anew that they would start from Eden's Orchard, 216 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:37.880 and they would start a new Wow. Which is like kind of crazy 217 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:41.319 because there's this I don't know if you've I don't know if you've heard about 218 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:44.400 this. We're gonna talk a little bit about it today. But there's this 219 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:52.200 like there are theory swirling around that the Bible is post apocalyptic Norse mythology. 220 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:59.119 Wait a minute, so are you are you suggesting that? Like maybe let 221 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:02.680 me wrap my brain around. So you're saying that the Bible is like the 222 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.400 next cycle or what do you say? There are a lot of people that 223 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:11.599 like have pieced together some compelling theories that, yeah, that that that could 224 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.680 that that could be like there was a cycle before it's an older way and 225 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:21.920 that essentially the cycle prior to the Bible was Norse mythology. Interesting, So 226 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.319 get this, Well, I guess we'll go ahead and get into that specific 227 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:29.599 weirdness because it's weird. I've never heard that. Yeah, Okay, let's 228 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:32.480 let's just let's just start there. I wasn't gonna start there because it is 229 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:36.079 pretty like fringe and out there. I like fringe. Let's let's just start 230 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:40.440 there, all right? So, uh, the Christianity angle. I went 231 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:44.599 a little deep on this and shout out to this guy on TikTok he's awesome, 232 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:48.480 Ragnarok Johnson. Yeah, he he like does a lot of these where 233 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:53.559 he compiles uh this stuff and like it's very it's very interesting and it's good 234 00:18:53.599 --> 00:19:02.319 content. All Right, we talked about we mentioned Balder, Balder among the 235 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:08.000 the Norse pantheon of gods, Balder was the god of light. Balder was 236 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:11.839 known as like this, he was like this, like he was he was 237 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:18.200 like innocent. He wasn't he wasn't like a great warrior. He wasn't you 238 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:22.079 know, he wasn't jealous like many of the gods. He didn't really want 239 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:27.079 very many things. He was just he was just like a peaceful god of 240 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:32.960 light. He's in fact, he is known as the most innocent and peaceful 241 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:40.359 god amongst the acer, which the Acier are the highest rank of gods amongst 242 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:45.079 the It's like odin thor Loki. And then you had the van Air gods, 243 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:48.319 which were like the older gods I guess like Freya, Yeah, the 244 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.359 van Ear. Then you have the Jotnar, which would be equivalent to like 245 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:56.640 the Titans of Greek mythology, the giants. The giants exactly, they're like 246 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:02.519 they're they're definitely god like like that, you know, but that they're not 247 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.559 they're not considered like they're not out on the level of the ace here. 248 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.400 So as a part of Ragnarok, it's prophesied that Balder will be killed and 249 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:15.160 as a result, Ragnarok will begin to unfold. That's the whole like crux 250 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:19.599 of Ragnarok, Balder has to die. Also included in the prophecy is that 251 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:25.480 all of the gods will be killed, the realms will die and be born 252 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:33.400 anew as one peaceful realm, and that Balder will be resurrected as the one 253 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:41.440 true god of gods and would bring forth wait, would bring forth a single 254 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:51.200 man and woman named Ash and Elm like trees because it's believable Ash. Yeah. 255 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:55.200 But also they believe the Igrasill was an ash tree, right, and 256 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:59.799 they would be reborn to lead the world, the new world in peace. 257 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:04.200 Wow, let's unpack that a little bit. I think it's also important to 258 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:15.960 note exactly like how popular Norse mythology has breached into pop culture, Like you 259 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:18.759 know, it's it started with Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Like. 260 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.400 I had to take this class in college. It was called Lewis and 261 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.480 Tolkien Religious Themes of Lewis and Tolkien, and we had to read like the 262 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.279 Narnia books. Some you know, watch documentaries about Tolkien and when you get 263 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:34.720 into his earlier writings, he was sure like he was a Catholic, and 264 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:38.880 a lot of the themes were based on Catholicism, but all the lore and 265 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:42.640 the creatures in the mythology was all based on Norse myth you know, I 266 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.559 know I just changed the subject there, but I wanted to put that into 267 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:48.960 people's minds. You bring Lord of the Rings. Yeah, like Lord of 268 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.839 the Rings. Aside from like the Catholic Christian themes, all the lore, 269 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.039 the elves, the dragons, that all this stuff, the dwarves, that's 270 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.480 Norse Smith. It's all from Norse Smith. Yeah, and then you have 271 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:07.359 stuff today, you know, Thor Ragnarok's God like, it's it's becoming mainstream 272 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:11.240 now, even Dude Vikings, the show Vikings such a six show by the 273 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:14.640 way that yeh is And I wanted to use this as an opportunity to say 274 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:18.559 that. In our Discord Server, we have been it's pretty much near the 275 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:21.960 end now we're going to do a season two, but we've been playing Valheim, 276 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:25.160 which is you know, a video game based about like North Smith. 277 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.440 Then it's very cool. But yeah, I wanted to talk about the pop 278 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.759 culture angle there, like it's, oh yeah, it's everywhere, it's everywhere. 279 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:36.519 It's it's become synonymous, like and I don't I don't think it was 280 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:41.640 necessarily always like that. Like I feel like Greek mythology is kind of like 281 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.039 the one that most people know, right, and so it's kind of the 282 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.599 one that you see the most and you see the inspiration from the most. 283 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:53.680 But I mean, yeah, but prior to recent years, it was like 284 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:57.079 you have Lord of the Rings, which came out in the nineteen forties, 285 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.319 the Hobbit did, and then the sixth these was the Lord of the Rings. 286 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:06.480 Uh, and then like in the eighties you had four the comic. 287 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.519 Yeah, that was it. But then for some reason in the past like 288 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:15.039 ten or twenty years, there's all kinds of other stuff coming out about it's 289 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.880 all like Norse mythology. This is an explosion of norsemith. I think it's 290 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:23.039 just as important. I mean, I think I think all all myth systems, 291 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:29.440 all mythologies are kind of on equal footing, and they're interesting, they're 292 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:33.640 worth exploring, they're worth dissecting and talking about. Yeah, back to what 293 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:36.119 you were saying, though, that's completely wild. I didn't know that. 294 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.880 I knew that, like the Ragnarok myth was more of a metaphor of like 295 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:44.000 the great cosmic scale of the universe being on a cycle of death and rebirth. 296 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.400 Like for example, one of my favorite symbols in all of norths myth 297 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:51.920 the Ora Boris. Uh, there's this there's I don't know, is he 298 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:56.799 a jotan or what is your Yeah, so there's this. There's this god 299 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.480 like being a giant Yorman gander who is known as the world serpent. And 300 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.880 if you've ever seen the symbol of people are like, oh, it's an 301 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.920 evil symbol. No, it's not. It has a meaning. It's the 302 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:08.960 serpent going all the way around the world and eating its tail. I think 303 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:15.119 that's on the the the Kansas album. Oh yeah, pretty sure, it's 304 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.920 on a Kansas album. It's either Kansas or Boston. I always I think 305 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:23.799 it's Kansas. Boston's the UFOs. Yeah, but anyway, it's a very 306 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:29.640 popular esoteric symbol. It's the Ora Boris, and it represents the belief that 307 00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:32.960 the world serpent Yorman Gander, was wrapped all the way around the world and 308 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:37.559 he would eat his tail. But it's metaphorical. It's about the continual cycle 309 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.319 of death and rebirth, even of the very cosmos, you know, which 310 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.319 is what Ragnarrock symbolizes. But I didn't know it goes so far as to 311 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:48.200 say like the creation of of of a new it's like Garden of Eden. 312 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:49.799 Oh yeah, it's like Adam and Eve. Yeah, it makes you wonder 313 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:53.400 like did they did did did they copy some of that from the North Smith? 314 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.680 It's pretty weird. It's it's pretty weird how that. And there's other 315 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:02.240 there's other stuff too, but actually you're but it also makes me wonder because 316 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:07.400 they they weren't like back when the Old Testament was being formed, I doubt 317 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:11.440 that they were even near Scandinavia. What it really makes me wonder, is 318 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:15.920 this a common theme that's been transmitted to mankind? That's what I think it 319 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.920 is across different cultures. Yeah, because if you look at the timeline at 320 00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:25.279 you know, this, this Ida, this stuff wasn't written down until the 321 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:30.000 twelve hundreds, which, like you know, we would have already had the 322 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.440 Old Testament that you know, we would have already had some would have had 323 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:36.559 the whole Catholic Empire, right exactly. Yeah, it would be near its 324 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:41.319 fall in fact, like just a couple hundred years from the fall of Rome 325 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.960 and like the big Catholic empire and ship. But yeah, interesting enough. 326 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:53.279 There there are a lot of like those that cyclical symbolism in Norse mythology, 327 00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:59.640 like the skull and Hati, Yeah, skull and Hati, the wolves that 328 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.519 chase the sun and moon, like they're on that constant cycle of sun and 329 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.440 moon. And like there's there's so many Yorman Gander Magni mody the there's like 330 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.119 there's very many. There's a lot of duality symbolism, and then there's a 331 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:18.440 lot of that like cyclical thing. And see, I never knew that there 332 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.799 was like post Ragnarok stuff, right, I didn't either. I thought it 333 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.079 was just like, oh, Ragnarock happens, and then it starts over again. 334 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:27.599 I didn't even know it starts over again. I was just like, 335 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:32.480 I just thought Ragnarok happens, boom, that's the end of the North Norse 336 00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:37.119 pantheon. I didn't know anything about it starts over again. And that's why 337 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:45.079 there's this weird there's these weird like time dilations in Norse mythology. There's there's 338 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:51.119 this strange stuff about, like, you know, it's prophesied that like four 339 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:56.839 will fight Yorman Gander in the end. And but then also it's like after 340 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:06.640 their fight, he's like sent back into you good, Alex. He's like 341 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.160 sent back in time. There's like weird time travel stuff. And yeah, 342 00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:11.920 it's it gets kind of wild. But I don't know. I always just 343 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.720 thought that like Ragnarok was the end of it. Well, here's my notes 344 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.119 on Ragnarok. I thought this was cool. Yeah, like the Christian Apocalypse, 345 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.559 Ragnarok sets out a series of events, a series of signs that will 346 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.240 ultimately define the end of times. The first sign is the fimble Vetta or 347 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.200 the Fimble Winter, which is the final long, continuous cold winter with constant 348 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.039 snow that lasts a year. It's the sign. Then a red rooster called 349 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:38.599 Fhallar will warn the giants that Ragnarok has begun. A second rooster will warn 350 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:42.519 all the dead that Ragnarok has begun. Finally, a third red rooster called 351 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:47.720 Golden Khambi, a rooster that lives in Valhalla, a majestic hall located in 352 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:49.759 Asgard. Like we talked about, Asgard is the realm where the gods like 353 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:55.680 odin Thor. It's like Olympus. Yeah, it's just like Olympus. The 354 00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.519 located n Asgard will warn all the gods about the beginning of the end. 355 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.839 The god Heimdallar, who's one of my diamond gods, and Smite. I 356 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.119 love playing him and Smite. The god heim Dollar will use his trumpet to 357 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.720 play a specific tone. Oh, his trumpet is the gyaller horn, big 358 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:18.359 horn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. He plays a specific 359 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.480 tone that will be heard in Valhalla, and this will bring back the dead 360 00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:23.680 to life, and they will march to the realm called Vigrid, a place 361 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.519 of battles, where the final battle will take place. The seas will be 362 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.480 torn apart in the world. Serpent Yorman Gander, a serpent so large that 363 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:34.400 it surrounds the earth and grasps its own tail, will raise itself from the 364 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.359 depths of the oceans to join the battle. The gods Balder and Hod will 365 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.839 also return from the dead to fight in this final battle. The god Loki 366 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.119 was the son of a giant and was known as a trickster god with the 367 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.720 ability to shape shift. His role in the myth is unique and controversial, 368 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.720 since he appears to both help the gods and hinder them. It's kind of 369 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:53.920 like the duality there. He's good and he's evil. It's kind of interesting. 370 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:59.079 There's a lot of that in Norse mythology. Yeah, it's cosmic duality. 371 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.839 It's all metaphors for the cosmos, which was the same with the Greeks. 372 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:10.400 Loki fathered many offspring, including an eight legged horse named Slipe Near used 373 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:11.759 by Odin, a dragon, and the wolf fen Rear, who plays a 374 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.160 significant role in Ragnarok. According to the story, Loki tricks the blind god 375 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.640 of winter Hode, and action that results in the death of the god Boulder, 376 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.720 son of goddess Frigg and Odin. Frigg is also Freya. Also in 377 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:29.920 witchcraft, Friday is known as the witch's Sabbath or also known as the Day 378 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.559 of frig It's like a day because she was like this goddess of magic and 379 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.000 Freya. Actually, you know, it's cool about Fray A little side note, 380 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.119 The word Freya literally translates into the lady. She's like this shining queen. 381 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.039 She's married to Odin. She's like the goddess, the queen of the 382 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.799 valkyrie. Interesting little connection there, but an action that results in the death 383 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.319 of the god Balder, son of Frigg and Odin. Because of this, 384 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.039 he was punished and cast into a cliff, where he was to remain bound 385 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.759 into a rock until Ragnarok, the end of the world. This bears similarities 386 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.880 to the punishment of promethea an ancient Greek myth who was bound to a rock 387 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:07.279 for giving fire to humanity. Lord right, that's what is it? Prometheus 388 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.039 or Proteus? Prometheus? Prometheus? Yeah, Proteus was the one I think 389 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.160 who was out on the rock and the sea had prophecy yep. Yeah, 390 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.319 But we talked about Proteus and Prometheus and our Lighthouse episodes. Hip. That's 391 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.079 what that movie is all. That was a good episode. So Loki in 392 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.119 his hoard with the Frost Giants will sell to Vigorate in the final battle against 393 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.599 the Acer on a ship made out of the nails of dead men that's Gros 394 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.559 like a ghost ship. All monsters and giants like the flame giant Searter, 395 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:38.119 Hell's dog Calm good name there, the wolf fen Rear Fenris, and the 396 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.119 leader of the giants, Hrim, will create a powerful army against the gods. 397 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.799 The result of the war is that Thornon Odin and most of the gods 398 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.680 will die, and the dragons will release fire that will destroy all life on 399 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.319 Earth. But this is not the end. Things start again with a new 400 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.839 race. A new world arises from the depths of the sea. The first 401 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.279 two mortals would be called Lift and Lyft, thrust Heer, Woman and Man, 402 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.559 and they will repopulate Earth. The god's Volley and v Are as well 403 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.559 as the sons of Thor and Nir will survive the battle, go to Edival, 404 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.480 which will not be destroyed in Ragnarok, and then the gods Balder and 405 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.960 Hoder will be returned and a new era will begin. See. That's another 406 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:15.920 thing that I saw, is like there were some areas where names don't match 407 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.279 up, because I saw like the leaf and leaf near thing, and then 408 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.519 I saw ash and Elm, and then like some of the name it's the 409 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.200 same thing. It's all the same thing. Yeah, it all means the 410 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:29.720 same thing. But yeah, that's essentially the story of Ragnarok. It's it's 411 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.519 I always just thought it ended there. I always thought it was just the 412 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:37.000 cataclysm event that ends the the Norse myth. But well, it's like the 413 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.039 Book of Revelations, there's this final battle where Jesus rides in on the cloud 414 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.319 and the angels are blowing trumpets just like kimed all blowing trumpets for the gods 415 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.440 of but Jesus rides in. I do like this version better. He wins, 416 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.519 he beats the evil, he kills all the demonic whatever, and then 417 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.920 it says that there's peace on earth for a thousand years until one more final 418 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:57.799 judgment and then it's peace forever. Yeah, you know. Yeah, And 419 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.440 then you have the hinduk hosmology, same thing, the Yuga cycles. The 420 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:07.240 universe is destroyed by Shiva's dance and then it's built a new Yeah. So 421 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.799 it's like, it's like, where do we draw the line between mythology and 422 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:15.880 religion, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, we're talking about all the 423 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:20.680 same stuff here in Greek mythology, in Norse mythology, but then also in 424 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:27.119 Hinduism, Christianity. It's like, it's all the same symbolism. Why is 425 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:32.839 there a line drawn that says this is mythology, this is religion. Well, 426 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.400 because the Catholics marked the world and they're like, we're going to burn 427 00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.519 you alive exactly. They went on a huge spree which by the way. 428 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:45.119 I loved the History of the Bible episode that we did because it it very 429 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:50.000 much highlighted that for me, and like, yeah, I mean I think 430 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.200 that is the answer. It's the Catholics. And also this, I don't 431 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.559 think that the Vikings, for example, were very much interested in making converts 432 00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.279 to their religion. I think they were more interested in pill and destroying their 433 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:05.160 enemies, yes, and ritualistically sacrificing them to the I don't think they were 434 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.920 trying to convert. I think they were trying to destroy. That's you know, 435 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.880 there's a big difference in the way these systems they went on. The 436 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:16.279 Vikings went on massive Christian killings freeze. They would show up to an island 437 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:21.400 full of Catholics or Christians or they didn't care what religion you were, if 438 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.119 you didn't believe in they were on site. Yeah, they were literally just 439 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.000 straight. And then you had the Catholics that are like, no, no, 440 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.039 no, you got to confess this prayer or you're gonna your your soul 441 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.240 is going to burn in the after place. There will do this, or 442 00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.319 we're gonna burn you now. Yeah, there was no and send you to 443 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:42.000 the after place. There was no exchange of words with the Vikings. It 444 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.920 was like they would burn the boats. Literally they would pull up to your 445 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:51.119 to your island, they would or they'd pull up to your land on their 446 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.640 boats and burn the boats because they had no intention of going back. They 447 00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:59.960 had one intention. It was to go in and kill everybody in the name 448 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.440 of the Norse gods and like if they die, great, yeah, heaven, 449 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.119 that's what they want. It'sstic. It is very sadistic. Oh you 450 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.960 know another pop culture when we didn't mention Skyrim. Oh my god, dude, 451 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.719 Skrim is like straight up I wanted to talk very quickly about this very 452 00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:20.400 good horror film. It's not that scary. That's not why it's good. 453 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.239 It's just some movies are like, not that scary, but the vibe in 454 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:28.880 the atmosphere is perfect. It's called the ritual sick movie. Wait a minute, 455 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:34.599 this is the one with like the antler yep I son of Loki. 456 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.719 I saw the trailer and I was like, that looks cool. Yeah, 457 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:44.480 it's sometimes sometimes I see like a trailer for a scary movie and I'm like, 458 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.159 I want to watch that one. Dude, you like spooky stuff, 459 00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:51.079 You just you just haven't liked being jump scary, right, but you like 460 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.280 the vibe. Yeah, I don't like the I don't like feeling like I'm 461 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:58.760 gonna have a heart attack, like anticipating a jump scary, like the ritual 462 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.599 because it's not playing fast. Yeah it's good, Yeah, it's it actually 463 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:06.840 is really. Do you like roller coasters? No, same reason, same 464 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:12.400 reason. Yeah. So I don't know though, because it's the same paradox 465 00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.159 with me. It's like, yeah, I don't like them, but like 466 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.800 I've been on every ride at Carowins, Like I've been on most of them 467 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.320 at like Universal and Disney, and like, you know, I feel like 468 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.840 the differences. It's just shorter lived yeah, yeah, yeah, and on 469 00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.679 movies like long like they like to keep you in that spot. But here's 470 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:35.920 the crazy thing. It's always for me, it's the anticipation. Yeah, 471 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:37.159 that's the thing I can't do. But then you do it and it's like, 472 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.880 oh, that was fun and it's a real fast passed kind of guy. 473 00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:45.360 Yes, yes, a thousand percent yes. Cause all right, so 474 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:51.480 for instance, we're at like Islands of Adventure with the Hulk roller coaster, 475 00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:52.920 right, that's an insane ride. Now, it's insane. I mean, 476 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.679 it's just wrote it like recently. Really, wait, when'd you go? 477 00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.599 Went to Universal? Like three weeks ago, three weeks ago, four weeks 478 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:04.559 ago. Dude, We're the new Jurassic Park ride, the Velocit coaster. 479 00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.079 That is the best. There's a new Jurassic Park ride. They have a 480 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:12.519 whole new thing. Man. Oh, I know, twenty twenty five something 481 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:17.320 like that, And which sucks because like our entire family is going in November, 482 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:20.639 which I don't care. It's gonna be so much fun. We're going 483 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.639 to Disney and Universal. Yeah in November. I haven't been in a coaster 484 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:29.159 five years or so, do it. The fast pass line was like thirty 485 00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.840 or forty minutes. This is what I'm saying, Dude. If I walk 486 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:36.599 up, if I see this big ass roller coaster, it looks scary as 487 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.119 shit, and I'm like, oh, I don't know about that. If 488 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.960 there's nobody in line, yeah, I get my ass on that thing. 489 00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.880 I don't care, Like I don't have time to think about, Like, 490 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:51.119 I don't have time to be nervous. It's just get me on it and 491 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.639 there we go. Yeah, and then whatever. It's when I'm waiting in 492 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.840 a line of one hundred people and I'm just sitting there thinking in my head 493 00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:05.199 like I am, I'm freaking out right now, nervous waiting thirty to forty 494 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.400 five minutes to go and be scared on a roller coaster. It's like it's 495 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.639 it just doesn't compute in my mind. But then when I do it, 496 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.440 I'm like, that was fun. Yeah, you know, yeah, it's 497 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:19.519 the same whatever that is, it's the same connection. Okay, So sorry, 498 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.440 you were talking about something awesome I don't remember, but well listen, 499 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.400 I'm gonna jump back into the Christianity stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 500 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:32.440 let's talk about our boy Loki. So what do you know about Loki? 501 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.400 Uh? I mean, admittedly not much, just that he's like a trickster 502 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:40.119 archetype. He's you know, he could be perceived as good, he can 503 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:45.760 perceived as evil. But what you what everybody knows about Loki's he's a trickster. 504 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.599 Yeah, he's a trick He's one of those like tricky trickster gods. 505 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:53.840 All right. So there's theories in these like theories that I've found about the 506 00:37:54.599 --> 00:38:00.920 connections between Christianity and like the end of Ragnarok and Norse mythology and stuff. 507 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:06.199 They suggest that, like, you know, how We've talked before about how 508 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.360 the Old Testament God and the New Testament God are like very different. Ye, 509 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:16.320 well, a lot of scholars theorized that, like maybe that Old Testament 510 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.039 God was Loki. Interesting. Yeah, that's interesting. You say that too, 511 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:22.440 because the next episode we're going to do his gnosticism, and that's the 512 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:28.199 entire subject, that Old Testament versus the yeah being different gots oh right, 513 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.280 right, yes, n all right. So, according to such theories, 514 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:37.119 Loki, who is the god of mischief and fire, fled into his daughter's 515 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:45.000 realm of Hellheim after Ragnarok and shape shifted into a snake to corrupt ash and 516 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:54.960 elm into his favor, changing his own name to Lucifer. What which in 517 00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:04.440 Norse it would have been Balder light light bringer. That's literally what lucifer means. 518 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:08.239 Interesting, Balder means light bringer. Okay, Lucifer means light bringer. 519 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:15.000 And this is the other crazy thing, Like if all right, because according 520 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:21.400 to the prophecy, it's Loki's fault. It's like it's Loki's fault that Ragnarok 521 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:27.320 starts because he kills Balder. Interesting, dude, he'd be a little mad. 522 00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.239 You know what's crazy because you don't know this. While you're playing the 523 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:35.000 first God of War, you don't spoiler. You don't realize that the kid 524 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.480 is loc and it's his arrows that kill him. Deep. Oh yeah, 525 00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:44.800 they're like more accurate with it that see, that was the first time that. 526 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:46.639 Yeah. The only thing that's not accurate there is like Balder's kind of 527 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:52.280 a dick in r But all that is is changing their like personalities, which 528 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.360 is like who cares, who's to say what their personalities were? Like, 529 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.840 you know whatever. That's cool, dude. That was the first thing when 530 00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:06.480 I'm playing that first got A War game. It was because he had mistletoe 531 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.000 arrows. That's in our song, dude, Yeah, that's in our song. 532 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:15.480 Twice Born has a song about Ragnarok and in the song, a mistletoe 533 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:21.760 arrow brought down my son. That's literally how it happens. In Norse mythology, 534 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.800 the only thing that can damage Balder is mistletoe. And in the game 535 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:34.920 in God of War, Freya makes a treeis who is actually Loki you find 536 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.679 out at the end of the first GOT War game makes him an arrowhead of 537 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:44.480 mistletoe, not to kill Balder just because of there. They went to some 538 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:50.599 realm where he needed to have mistletoe that would like you know, like get 539 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:54.000 be able to access certain areas or something like that. But he used an 540 00:40:54.119 --> 00:41:00.480 arrowhead. Remember he tied up his because his his sash for his quiver broke, 541 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:02.360 so they use it to tie it up, and then Balder punches him 542 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.199 there and the arrowhead goes into his hand and that's what ends. Like you 543 00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.800 find out it is this weakness. Yeah, when that happened in the game, 544 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:14.199 I was like, is a tray is Loki? Because I knew, 545 00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.119 like I knew that it was Loki who is supposed to kill Balder. So 546 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:22.639 now the thing about this for a second. If you were Loki and you 547 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:28.039 had everything going for you had this master plan and you were trying to evade 548 00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.440 Ragnarok, but then all of a sudden, by chance, boom, it 549 00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:37.719 happens Balder dies, and you're like this motherfucker, Like Balder ruined it all 550 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:45.800 for me, and then Ragnarok happens. You hide in Hellheim, you transfix 551 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:50.920 yourself into a snake, all this stuff, Like, wouldn't you want to 552 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:55.000 give Balder such a bad name? You would want to like tarnish his name? 553 00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.519 He It was like the theory is that he took name so that he 554 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:06.360 could tarnish it light Bringer. Yeah, Lucifer, like the serpent in the 555 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:12.519 Garden of Eden. Right. Another thing that is maybe less known about Loki 556 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:17.719 is he is like the most jealous of all the gods. He's the most 557 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.440 jealous. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's like why he kills Balder. 558 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:29.000 He's killed multiple gods because of like you know, in what's it called Asgard 559 00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:34.760 they have there's this big dining hall of Odin. It's in Odin's palace, 560 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.159 and it's this dining hall where all the acier dined together, and it's a 561 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:42.559 big deal. It's a big honor to be invited to eat at this table. 562 00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.639 And like Loki has been kicked from the table multiple times and then brought 563 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:53.400 back and all this stuff. But on multiple occasions Loki has either had gods 564 00:42:53.480 --> 00:43:01.519 killed or killed them himself because all of the other acer are like favoring those 565 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:07.280 gods. He's like extremely extremely jealous. He's the most jealous of all the 566 00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:14.719 ace Here Exodus thirty four to fourteen, for you must worship no other gods. 567 00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.239 For the lord whose very name is jealous is a god who is jealous 568 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:22.360 about his relationship with you. It's like there's no other God besides right, 569 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.960 right, It's like he's this extremely which is crazy because in the New Testament 570 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.360 it's not like that at all. It's not even He's not this jealous god. 571 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:36.159 It's not like that at all. Okay. And then finally going back 572 00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:42.159 to Eden and Eden's orchard and the golden apples of Eden and all that stuff, 573 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.000 the only tree of life mentioned in the Bible is from the garden of 574 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:51.679 Eden. So this is like a parallel to one of Eden's trees because Eden 575 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.239 was the only goddess who could produce these apples. Wait a minute, what 576 00:43:54.280 --> 00:44:00.800 was the apple called Aidun? Yeah? Wow, that's what I'm saying. 577 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.039 Yeah, you're just yeah, that's what I mean. I got the concept, 578 00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.239 but the word, yeah, it's the same. It's the same thing. 579 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:13.840 Wow, like her. The goddess's name is Ethen, and it's the 580 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:19.159 garden of Ethen, the orchard of Ethen, the apple, the apples crazy 581 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.400 Ethen, the tree of Even. And you know what, even in the 582 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.360 Old Testament it says, you know, once you eat the fruit of this 583 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:28.480 tree, or once they ate the fruit, they became as gods. Right, 584 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.039 you said, it was when they ate the apples of Athen that they 585 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:35.360 became the gods. Yes, that's how power. That's what gives them their 586 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.559 like vigor and their long life and their power. Yeah, it's the it's 587 00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:44.159 the golden apples of Ethen. Wow, it's wild. So that the only 588 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.239 tree of life mentioned in the Bible is from the garden of Eden. So 589 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:50.880 this could be seen as a parallel to one of Ethen's trees, where all 590 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:57.199 those who were once on balder side of the war would go after Ragnarok to 591 00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:02.079 live forever in the throne of God. Of the ace here or the twenty 592 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:07.519 Elders of the Bible. It's like the twenty Elders of the Bible around the 593 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:13.280 throne of God. It's the throne of God. It's it's it's Even's orchard. 594 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.639 It's it's like there, it's the new realm of the gods. And 595 00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:22.920 then there's in Revelation, there's this passage the blessed are permitted to enter the 596 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.280 gates of New Bethlehem and eat of the tree of life. Wow, that's 597 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:34.599 revelation. That's after the apocalypse event afterwards, just like Ragnarok. After the 598 00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:40.320 apocalypse event, you can go to the Throne of God or New Bethlehem and 599 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.760 eat of the Tree of life. Like I just am desperate to know, 600 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:52.639 like how those systems are so similar yet they're so far apart, Like what 601 00:45:52.679 --> 00:46:01.239 does that mean? In my opinion, I think that I think it's I 602 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:07.280 think it's all psychic downloads. Right, Think about this, dude, This 603 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.320 is crazy that I don't want to get into too much of a spirit science 604 00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:15.159 episode because we got to save those for spirit science episodes. But like the 605 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:23.480 way that we as like flesh and blood human beings got here were because over 606 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:31.360 millions of years, gas clouds formed in space, which eventually pulled sediment and 607 00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:37.800 other materials in together, and they collapsed in on themselves and this like massive 608 00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:44.800 amount of gravity creating a huge like singularity of energy stars. You know, 609 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:53.239 in the middle of those stars are fusion events, these massive, unfathomable amounts 610 00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:59.239 of energy, these fusion events. That is where the building blocks of all 611 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:05.559 life come from. Inside of those stars. You know, carbon and everything, 612 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.360 everything that we are made of, that everything is made of, it's 613 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:14.679 all of that. And then when those stars die, it gets scattered and 614 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:20.440 spit all across the cosmos. Right, you can think of that spiritually, 615 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:25.840 as you know, we are the universe, We are everything, right, 616 00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:31.199 if that's true, and we literally are absolutely everything, which I mean we 617 00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:35.840 we know that scientifically. That is science fact. Like Carl Sagan said, 618 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.679 we are made of star stuff. We are literally the elements of the sun 619 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:45.719 that that heat the perfect temperature conditions in this solar system for all the elements 620 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.440 to exist and create life. Yeah. Yeah, it happens because of the 621 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:57.000 fusion at the core of stars. Then then you introduce you interject the spirituality 622 00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:01.840 aspect of it, and it's all just energy. There's like a matter is 623 00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:07.679 an illusion. It's all just energy and whatever. This is like the most 624 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:15.480 concentrated ball of energy. Like that means since the beginning of time, all 625 00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:21.360 that's been happening is energy has just been changing form and spitting and changing form 626 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:27.239 and spitting and moving and spreading. Well, it's like Ragnarock, isn't it. 627 00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.960 Well, because you know this stuff is coming together and forming some new 628 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.360 life. You know, stars live billions of years and then what do they 629 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.880 do. They freaking explode and they start over again. So you just said 630 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.000 it, You just said what that's it. That's what I was getting I 631 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:45.159 said, it's like ragnrock, isn't it. So you just said it. 632 00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:52.119 It's that's all that's ever been happening. That's all that's ever happened, and 633 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:58.360 all that's ever been happening, right, right, that energy is permeating into 634 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:02.239 our subconscious, into our minds, and it is. It's in our DNA. 635 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:09.320 Yes, it's through allegory and through artistic representation telling us the story of 636 00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:15.360 the cosmos. Right, it's being downloaded into our minds artistically. That's our 637 00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:20.760 filter, our filter when it passes. We're personifying these concepts with different characters. 638 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.719 Yes, it's such a beautiful, amazing thing, like you know, 639 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:29.199 the marriage of spirit and science is so beautiful. That's why we have a 640 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.800 whole segment about it. But like that's what I believe. I believe. 641 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:37.199 Remember in Akira, they said the movie Akira, they had the whole dialogue 642 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:38.760 where he's explaining that He's like, it's in our DNA. You know exactly 643 00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:42.559 what we just said with the stars and the cosmos, And it is. 644 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:46.519 But at some point we hit this evolution phase where we evolve to that level 645 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.039 and unlock that knowledge, you know, Yes, yeah, exactly, And 646 00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:54.840 it's like even the most nuts and bolt scientists on the world. On the 647 00:49:54.880 --> 00:50:01.119 world, are you a SCIENTI why? Laughter? That right? Yes, 648 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:09.800 the monsters on the world. There was monsters on the world. Okay anyway, 649 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:15.599 Yeah, even even the most nuts and bolts scientists in the world would 650 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:21.679 not dare to refute what we just said, that that we are star stuff, 651 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:24.599 we we come from stars, that we would not be here without stars. 652 00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:30.280 All that's ever happened since the Big Bang is just explosions of energy and 653 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:40.079 things spreading. So what's happening over the ages of human evolution is we're downloading 654 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:45.679 this information from the cosmos. But think about this. You tell some ooga 655 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:50.960 booga cave man that like that star in the sky, and you know, 656 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.440 if you explain it in the nuts and bolts way, it's just gonna like 657 00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:57.719 break their mind. And they're like, they can't it means nothing to them. 658 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.440 But if you tell them a man like you, you know, and 659 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:07.840 you you explain it to them a tree, a man, a serpent, 660 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:15.679 a wolf, right, they can't understand that, right, that is mythology. 661 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.639 That's that's an important point because like, that's that's something that I kind 662 00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.880 of talk about a lot, but not not explicitly in this way because we're 663 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.719 having this conversation officially, but like that's my thing is Like, you know, 664 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.519 I see a lot of people out there that are like I work with 665 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:35.199 this deity, I work with this God, and you know, not not 666 00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.599 to be an ass, but I'm just like why because exactly what you just 667 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:45.960 said, Like there's there's one universal intelligence, there's one force, and throughout 668 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:51.719 time we're just personifying this force in different ways, you know what I mean. 669 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:53.119 It's like it's like what we talk about all the time with the Dow. 670 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:55.440 It's like, you know, when you label me, you've pushed me 671 00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:00.480 away. It's like I work with Loki, I work with on you. 672 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.039 It's like, okay, well I work with Goku. You know. It's 673 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:08.039 just it's just a character. I don't think that there's like zero value in 674 00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:15.800 labels. Just this is just me personally. Like I've been I don't know, 675 00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:21.400 I've been on this like discovery journey lately of kind of like finding my 676 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:28.360 connection with God again in and actually like the label part of it was very 677 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:32.119 important for me. The label part of it was perhaps the most important part 678 00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:39.519 for me. I think the time when the label part matters is. I 679 00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:43.480 don't know, this might sound a little weird, but I feel like when 680 00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:49.719 you grow up indoctrinated into a religion and your your brain, your mind are 681 00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:58.039 being formed in those formative years being closely associated with a religion, it is 682 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:04.519 like hard, if not near impossible, to break those connections. Yeah, 683 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:10.199 and so if you're trying to connect with God or whatever higher you know, 684 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:14.199 whatever you want to call it, God is what I'm calling it. I 685 00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:16.639 was afraid to call it that for a while because, like you know, 686 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:22.800 I had some trauma associated with that and I had a new understanding and whatever, 687 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:24.719 and so I didn't say the word God or I didn't use the word 688 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:30.679 God because people assume God means Christian. Yes, that's a very big misconception. 689 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.760 Raven a Hindu would say, they believe in God, yes, matter 690 00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:37.840 of fact, they love Jesus and and man like he's like Christna. Things 691 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.800 started to change for me in a major, major way when I started using 692 00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:46.400 the labels God and Jesus again. Yeah, when I started using those again, 693 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:52.320 it's it's like, yeah, I didn't use those terms or those labels 694 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:53.679 because I was like, well, I'm not a Christian, like, so 695 00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:59.159 I don't want to use those terms because like I don't want to be I 696 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:04.519 don't want to like pigeon myself pigeonhole myself into that. But that severed the 697 00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:07.079 connection for me. But Jesus was a man, right, you know what 698 00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.760 I mean. It's just like Confucius was a man. I read his stories. 699 00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:14.199 He has great wisdom, you know, laotsu. Yeah. And also 700 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:19.239 God, God is not a name. God, God is in existence. 701 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:23.360 God is God is a force. My only thing is you know. I 702 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:27.280 see people say like, oh, yeah, I'm starting to have dreams of 703 00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:30.159 you know, this entity working with me, and you know, should I 704 00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.280 I have? Dude, you just have no clue the questions I get. 705 00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:36.320 You know, do you do you ever work with do you ever work with 706 00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.800 Loki? I'm like, no, no, yeah, I've definitely I don't. 707 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:43.159 I don't. I don't box my mind and trying to work with an 708 00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:45.719 eager cord. That's all I'm saying is it's like in the Gnostic episode, 709 00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:51.840 we'll talk about that they had a strict belief that like God is, God 710 00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:53.639 is a secret name that's not known to mortals. Yeah, because it's not 711 00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:58.079 word. I think the only thing that is is truly important is the connection, 712 00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.880 right and connection, And if the language helps you make a better connection 713 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:07.039 than great, then then then that's great. So if you if saying you 714 00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:12.239 work with a certain God like truly actually strength strengthens the connection to the real 715 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.079 God, great, awesome, that's all that really matters. But like, 716 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:21.199 yeah, I mean obviously, like it was bad for me to try to 717 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:27.360 pigeonhole myself into like calling it something else, like calling it labeling it like 718 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:31.960 the universe, or labeling it like whatever else. It It was actually eroding 719 00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:38.159 my connection, yeah, making it disappear. No God is God, Yeah, 720 00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:43.400 for sure. Let's see. Oh, I want to talk about one 721 00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:47.119 more thing from from an angle of theosophy. I'm excited about this one. 722 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.039 Yeah. So we love theosophy. We love Helena Blovotsky. You know, 723 00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:57.760 well, I don't love no, No, I don't even like her. 724 00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.679 But I like a lot of her word, you know what I'm Yeah, 725 00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:04.199 you know what I mean. We like her work. I think she's a 726 00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:08.519 nasty attitude, but yes, I love it seemingly. Yes. So she 727 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:14.920 maintains that the metaphysical truth is not restricted to one specific religious tradition, but 728 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:19.199 can be found in ancient traditions and mythologies around the world. Brilliant. That's 729 00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:23.159 essentially what we've been talking about. But this is this is where it gets 730 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:29.840 really cool. Blovotsky describes the most enlightened stages throughout the various mythologies of the 731 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:35.119 world as the thirty five Buddhas of confession. Wow, you know, have 732 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:38.039 you ever heard of that? Yeah, it's I looked into that specifically in 733 00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:45.440 like Hinduism Buddhism, and yeah, there's all these different Buddhas of different aspects 734 00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:52.039 and all of this stuff, But there is specific importance placed on these Buddhas 735 00:56:52.079 --> 00:57:00.519 of confession because I guess according to some sects of Buddhism, confession is like 736 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.599 the first step to true enlightenment. It's you know, interesting, and this 737 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:13.000 is like Tibetan Buddhism mostly so in Theosophy, Odin among many others, are 738 00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:17.880 considered to be one of those thirty five Buddhas. And they believe that Odin, 739 00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:23.320 you know, who appeared in like northern Europe, like Scandinavia area, 740 00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:30.159 when the northern hemisphere was not yet divided by the Atlantic Ocean. Atlantic Ocean 741 00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:36.239 had not yet divided there it was Pangaea still and because of this, the 742 00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:45.519 spiritual founding father of Europe could easily be associated with Atlantis being separated and ancient, 743 00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:49.920 an ancient civilization, you know, think about it. It's you know, 744 00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:53.760 that's another allegory, that is, it probably didn't happen exactly how the 745 00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:58.880 myths describe, or like the Emerald tablets describe, or you know, so 746 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:02.400 wait a minute, So Helena Blovotsky is I could be way wrong here, 747 00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:09.559 but she's insinuating that some sort of spiritual understanding of Atlantis was in like early 748 00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:15.800 early Europe, in the Norse myth, or like the knowledge of Atlantis somehow 749 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:20.519 translated to the Norse myth. What it is, Mark, it's it's that 750 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:28.199 she believes that there are these thirty five entities across mythologies and religions who have 751 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:34.679 that sort of thing happening similarly with all of them, where they are a 752 00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:40.199 part of this one continent and then it becomes separated, and she notes the 753 00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:45.119 the similarity to that's amazing. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So 754 00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:52.760 it's like these thirty five Buddhas of confession all seem to have this like symbolic 755 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.719 connection to Atlantis. So let me reiterate this. Yeah, from what I'm 756 00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:00.119 understanding here, I've genuinely never heard this topic yet. What I'm understanding here 757 00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:07.519 is Helena Blovotski is saying that in the very very early iteration of humankind here, 758 00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:09.840 back when it was most likely Pangeo one continent. Yeah, back when 759 00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:15.559 there was probably one primordial knowledge, and then there was a split thirty five 760 00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.559 different Buddhas as she calls them, split across the world, and that's why 761 00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.960 we have this knowledge popping up with all this enlightened wisdom that's deep makes a 762 00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:25.559 lot of sense, that's what she believes. That makes so much sense. 763 00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:29.840 Yeah, it does, and it's like, you know, it's like I 764 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:34.639 said, it's most likely it didn't happen exactly how the Emerald tablets describe it, 765 00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.719 you know. But if you think about like a one united world that 766 00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:45.599 has there's no like hoarding of information, there's no separation of information. It's 767 00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:51.480 one land mass and everybody can share all of the knowledge and wealth. And 768 00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:59.079 then they break off and those sages that are scattered throughout are separated, and 769 00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:01.639 they have these new system popping up. But there's so many similarities between them 770 01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:07.760 exactly. That makes sense, and there are similarities to think about how Hermist's 771 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:14.079 Magistus is described to have been separated and come back, and it's like Hermistre's 772 01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:19.360 Megistress is one of those those sages. It's or it's an allegory of those 773 01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:24.280 sages. Rather it's the separation of the knowledge of the entity of the sage 774 01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:32.360 and then the eventual returning of that sage that knowledge that that kind of the 775 01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:37.320 connections to Atlantis. Yeah, I thought that was really really cool. And 776 01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:42.400 then the last thing is they placed a lot of theosophy places a lot of 777 01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:47.000 emphasis on igdrasil that that you know, because of all the similarities. There's 778 01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:51.159 so many, and so I just wrote down some of the similarities and some 779 01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:54.159 of the stuff there. So, like in hindu they have a sacred tree 780 01:00:54.159 --> 01:01:00.159 known as Asvatha, which is also called the sacred fig It's it's uh, 781 01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:04.119 it's a sacred tree for Hindus. And this is like these are actual trees 782 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.880 that you can go and visit in the world today. There they're called o 783 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.719 tree. They've preserved them, yeah exactly, Yeah, it's it's it's like 784 01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:17.079 that some of them have been preserved for thousands upon thousands of years and others. 785 01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:22.920 They they they grow new ones too from they will uh what's it called 786 01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:28.079 propagate the tree? And that's it's cool that they have the actual physical tree 787 01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:36.440 in real life, whereas you know Irasill mythological it was believed that uh Gautama 788 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.400 was sitting under when he reached the light and he fasted for forty days and 789 01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:44.719 nights like Jesus did too. Yeah, that that's why, uh, they're 790 01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:51.159 sacred. The the the Bodi tree is what it's called in uh in Buddhism, 791 01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:55.239 but the body tree it's known is an Osaka tree. Wow. That's 792 01:01:55.239 --> 01:02:01.239 cool, Yeah, really cool. Is the world tree of Hinduism and bears 793 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:06.320 many similarities to Egill, so it's a it's a similar thing. The tree 794 01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:10.920 is described as having its roots in heaven and its crown or branches below. 795 01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:16.360 Yeah. Yeah, but also like Kabala remember, yes, yeah exactly, 796 01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:20.320 there's also as above, so below there's also a verse. Isn't there a 797 01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:22.679 verse in the Bible that talks about roots above branches below? Yes, I 798 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:25.320 don't recall it, right, that's where the Devil Is probably got their album. 799 01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:34.199 Yeah. The branches symbolized the visible universe and the roots the spiritual realm. 800 01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:38.920 The roots represent the manifested logos. Wait a minute, Uh you said 801 01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:45.320 that the branches were in hell and the roots were in heaven. It's uh 802 01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:47.920 hang on, let's see. Yeah, the tree is described as roots in 803 01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:55.039 heaven, crown or branches below below Yeah, below, like like earth the 804 01:02:55.039 --> 01:03:00.480 physical realm. Yeah. So the branches symbolize the visible universe, the roots 805 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:06.239 the spiritual realm because the remember the roots are above. In this they represent 806 01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:13.039 the manifested logos, which descends into grosser materiality, as symbolized by its branches 807 01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:19.079 and leaves. It also symbolically represents the human body's nervous system, with its 808 01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:24.760 roots in the brain and its branches throughout the body, following the occult principle 809 01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:30.519 of analogy, which is as above so below this is. This is heavily 810 01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:36.519 detailed in some of these theosophical texts, but essentially the point is that one 811 01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:42.960 must climb this tree to be able to liberate oneself and go beyond even the 812 01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:47.320 roots, which is even beyond the logos, the mind, the spiritual realm. 813 01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:53.880 It's like you climb and then even transcend that which would be considered enlightenment, 814 01:03:54.000 --> 01:04:00.400 like true like realized enlightenment. Right, Yeah, let's see. I 815 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:04.440 think that's all I got. Dang, that was really deep. That's the 816 01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:08.599 that's the theosophical spin on it, which I think is so cool. I 817 01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:11.800 was selling Ryan earlier. Usually whenever we dig into a topic, I like 818 01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.760 to go theosophy angle first. That's where I was planning on starting. But 819 01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:18.559 then we started talking about the Christianity stuff. So that's interesting because I wouldn't 820 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:23.199 I don't think to do that, to look at things through a theosophy lens. 821 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:25.480 That's why we make a good team, Yeah, because I think about 822 01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.480 it just like from an occult lens or an esoteric lens, which is like 823 01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.719 theosophy, gnosticism, wisdom, truth, you know, Like that's that's interesting. 824 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:38.280 But I do have to say theosophy does really cut to the core of 825 01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:42.519 the symbolism, and and that's what it is for me. It's like if 826 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:46.440 I if I start with theosophy, even if I don't find like a wealth 827 01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:49.760 of crazy stuff, it will point me in the right direction, right, 828 01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:55.239 It'll point me to gnosticism or her meticism, or it'll it'll point me to 829 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:59.840 where I need to be going. Even Buddhism, Hinduism, like theosophy is 830 01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:03.760 just so that's the whole purpose of it. Of theosophy is to cross reference 831 01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:08.079 all this stuff, and so it always points me in the right direction. 832 01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.599 That's why I typically start there. Wow. Yeah, that was really deep. 833 01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:14.519 Yeah, that was really deep, you know what I'm saying. And 834 01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.199 I did want to say one more thing. You know, I keep saying, 835 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:18.960 you know, we're not supposed to label things. We're not supposed label 836 01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:24.440 things. You guys listening realized that the lady, the entity that my dad 837 01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:27.800 experienced came and said that she's been known as Hathorne by many other names, 838 01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:31.199 right, many other names, yet my dad never calls her any of those 839 01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:33.760 names. Now, just calls her the lady, the lady. Yeah, 840 01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:38.400 that was That's what I wanted to get across. So many people ask me, 841 01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:42.280 man, I've had probably thousands of messages at this point, and Dad 842 01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:46.159 has has I couldn't even tell you how many thousands upon thousands, And we 843 01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:49.920 get so many messages like how does it relate to Christianity, How does it 844 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:53.679 relate to Islam? How does it relate to you know, this religion, 845 01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:58.960 that religion, this religion that religion, and I'm just like, you know, 846 01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:00.119 like I don't know what to tell you, like it's God, you 847 01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:03.119 know, just just keep an open mind and and that's all I'm saying, 848 01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:09.119 Like I don't want people to get so boxed into where they have to believe 849 01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:12.119 one certain type of way or they have to think about it in one certain 850 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.440 type of way. Like that's that's all I'm saying. I'm not I'm not 851 01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.519 trying to like shame people for what they believe in, for sure, I 852 01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:23.960 want people to keep an open mind and understand that God and its truest form 853 01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:28.360 is not bound to an identity or to a name that we came up with. 854 01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:31.599 God is incomprehensible. I believe that the true form of God is probably 855 01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:35.159 light yet not even visible, you know, like I don't know, I 856 01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:38.960 don't, I know, I agree, That's all I'm saying. I think 857 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:46.760 that the only purpose of labels ever was so that you could kind of just 858 01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:51.000 just begin not to even fathom it, but fathom how to connect with it. 859 01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:56.360 Like we were saying earlier, like how do they describe the story of 860 01:06:56.400 --> 01:07:00.000 the cosmos by putting it in terms that you can understand? It's definitely helped. 861 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:04.760 I think in most cases, I think that's generally like that's the right 862 01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:10.280 idea, Like it trying to put a specific label on it is just silly. 863 01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:13.599 It's never going to fit like it is not this. No, but 864 01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:15.519 if you want to try to understand it, read this. Sure. Yeah, 865 01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:19.840 yeah, you're never going to fit it into a specific box, a 866 01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:26.639 specific name, a label, whatever. Yeah. I think that it's just 867 01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:31.440 interesting that in my case, it was that was the part that was making 868 01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:38.800 things difficult for me, was was removing all labels completely and taking all of 869 01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:42.920 it completely away, everything that I had learned, like you know, in 870 01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:48.280 Christianity, and completely entirely removing all of that. It severed my connection to 871 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:54.960 the like the true real God. It's it's a weird paradox because like, 872 01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:59.400 yeah, you cannot fit it into a label, a name, a specific 873 01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:01.239 god, none of that stuff. But then how do I connect to it? 874 01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:04.840 Yeah? It might be it could you know. I think it's probably 875 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:11.679 just that I have some unresolved religious trauma and it's somewhere it's like I haven't 876 01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:16.640 worked that stuff out yet, and so that tether to those labels is still 877 01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:24.800 present, right, and it's like this whole journey is has been me realizing 878 01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:28.079 that tether is still present, but rather than just saying like, well, 879 01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:30.079 I gotta fucking cut it off, it's like, well, no, that 880 01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:35.680 doesn't have to be cut off. I can use that to connect while still 881 01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:41.720 understanding in my higher understanding that like, yeah, the label, it's not 882 01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.039 like it's just a word. It doesn't it doesn't make sense. It's not 883 01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:48.119 going to fit into any one category or box. My dad always tells me 884 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:51.159 this that how do we know what God is? All we can do is 885 01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:55.720 imagine God. It's in our Dude. He'll be speaking in front of fifty 886 01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:58.520 two hundred people. He'll say, you know, we only imagine God. 887 01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:02.640 We don't know what God is. And he says, personally, I imagine 888 01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:06.159 God is a woman. And he appeared to me as a woman, Yeah, 889 01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.520 a lady, you know. And he's like, I don't you know, 890 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:14.319 I don't need if you think of God as a man, that's okay. 891 01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:16.720 You imagine God how you want to imagine God. This is how I 892 01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.640 imagine God. You know, he's not saying her name is this and this 893 01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:23.039 and this and this and that's all I'm saying, man, Because I really 894 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:25.840 do get a lot of messages from people. They're like, oh, yeah, 895 01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:29.359 I'm working with the spirit of Kwan Yu, which is like some minor 896 01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.600 Chinese deity. It's right great, you know, I'm imagining the highest force 897 01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:34.760 in the universe. Right, that's all I'm saying. I'm just giving advice. 898 01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:39.000 I get a lot of questions about how to connect and anyway. I 899 01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:42.399 think this was an outstanding episode I did too. This one was super fun. 900 01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:45.479 It was fun. It's zipped on by Yeah. I really didn't have 901 01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:47.199 much more. I mean, you you knocked it out of the park. 902 01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:53.319 Sweet hell. Yeah, I'm just I'm fascinated with mythology in general. Norse 903 01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:57.199 and Greek are my two favorites. And one day we got to hit Greek 904 01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:01.319 mythologies. Oh definitely, so hard. Absolutely, that'll be lighty. Yeah. 905 01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:03.680 And then I want to do a Wisdom tradition episode on the Oracles of 906 01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:10.000 Delphi and the Alician mystery tradition. Yeah. Do we do an episode like 907 01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:13.800 this that's like Greek myth and then we hit deeper into the like esoteric. 908 01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:15.520 That's the way angle of it, you know. Yeah, that's the way 909 01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:18.560 to do it for sure. Yeah. I love that rocking and rolling bro 910 01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:30.079 Roll, we say hell him, yeah, brother brother, What's what's God? 911 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:35.239 What's the led Zeppelin song? Dude? Oh the Immigrants song. Yeah, 912 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:41.359 that's a good one. Yeah, that's some biking that'll get your norse. 913 01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:49.119 Jimmy's going okay by got out of here. Weird things happen in the 914 01:10:49.159 --> 01:11:10.560 backyard. It's so weird coming closer to us players, this straight up like 915 01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:20.359 smiring on the inside of it. No one knows that. Wow, it's 916 01:11:20.439 --> 01:12:00.199 come for I ever thought the solid na