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Hey, everybody, it's Friday.
How you doing. Yeah, that's right,

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real bicking back and beating bull today
on the inaugural episode of BCR BombCast

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Revengeance. That's right, yeah,
John BombCast is now hitting you twice a

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week on Tuesdays. Okay, no, yep, that's fine on Tuesdays and

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Fridays. Now, Welcome to John
BombCast Revengeance. I am your host,

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Jana Choa joining me co captain of
the ship Jeff Grubb hoighty ho I listen.

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I'm afraid of the energy that we're
bringing into this show, but that's

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why I wanted to do it.
I knew a late Friday podcast was gonna

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be something different, and I'm just
gonna sit back and let it happen.

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I'm not gonna try to stop it. We got mister late Friday himself,

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Jeff Bakalar. Hey, I'm Misster
Friday. How's it going? Everybody glad

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to be here. I'm not gonna
lie BombCast on a Friday's freaking me out,

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but I'm loving it. Speaking about
I'm loving it. Connoisseur of all

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things nuggets, whether they're chicken nuggets, gold nuggets, nuggets of wisdom,

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Lucy James. Okay, I mean
I would actually love some chicken nuggets.

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So yeah, how's it going.
It's going great, it's going great,

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it's growing great. He will not
be silenced except for this episode where we

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can't figure out the soundboard privileges some
more. Who's saying, I did everything

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right and that would be very good
poker. Yes, that's terrifying. Actually,

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oh my god, oh fantastic.
Well you're good at fighting games,

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right, Like I know you were
doing the thing with Justin, but like

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when you were playing your friends,
you usually got better than them. I

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would imagine say that again. You're
like bro Cup for like a second,

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and I was like, I don't
know what you're saying. Are you good

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at fighting games? Yes? Yeah, that's what I was assuming, because

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I think like a big thing with
fighting games is like that poker mentality of

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being able to like faint and do
something different. I think you'd be very

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good at that. Oh yeah,
but the thing is with fighting games doesn't

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quite you're not looking at their face, you look at the screen, but

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the whole vibe, your whole aura. I think you can put off something.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was good at

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poker. As well for a while, we should we should have a poker

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night. We should do poker night. Yeah, I'll be down for that.

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But no actual stakes though, because
bang is wrong. Oh for real?

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What about if we did for chips
that represent the currency? Does that

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work around? If I if I
have to give you money at any point,

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you don't, but you have to
buy these other things? What if

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I said you and you just have
to sign up five other people and that's

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kind of the money We got left
money on a table somewhere and then I

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took it later on? Can what
what about? We? Uh? We

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we started a new website, call
it tamu, and then that's how we

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wind up making a pseudo pyramid scheme, just sending this. I don't trust

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Sam, I don't trust tam oh. I guess gamblings haram. But like,

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casting spells on your friends is totally
cool. I'm allowed to cuss people

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every night. I'm sorry, sorry, Like all right, but before we

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get into what everyone stopped stop making
fun of my culture and religion. Oh

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no, oh, I wish,
but you literally rose back? What did

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you write? You said? Sorry, just a little voodoo for you.

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I'm so glad backler exists to take
these bullets, so I don't have to.

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That's what he said. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What happened?

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Then? Yeah? Sure? So
I had a hockey game last night and

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Tam, what's that? Yeah?
It turns out and Cam just wrote me

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in the locker Wills in the locker
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I was like, Hey, what's
up, Tammy baby? How's it

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going? I'm about to get it
on the ice? Is everything cool?

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He said? I just want you
to know that you're a nerd and I

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love you. Enjoy the ice.
I said, that's it. That can't

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be it. He said, I
just want you to know I'm thinking about

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you. I said, well,
that's not ominous at all. I think

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about you a lot too, Sam. Can I read like the last text

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message you sent to Wait, let's
let him finish ye After this, I

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go, I think I think about
you all the time. It's mostly good

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stuff. He goes, just doing
some voodoo, you know, have a

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nice game. Okay. Three hours
later, Well you did it, Tam.

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You put voodoo on my game and
then I got into an argument with

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a teammate in my locker room after
the game. Thanks a lot. You

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got into an argument about Mission Complete. We're not going to get into what

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we were arguing about, but because
it's not I kept saying that Trump did

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nothing wrong and got the yad you
want the wall now, don't you?

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Yeah? So fuck it was and
then you know, so I said look,

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and then I told my friend.
I said, look, this is

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not our fault. This is my
friend TAM's fault, for he has cursed

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this locker room. So that's true
story. Actually, thanks Tam. One

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of the last texts that Tam has
sent me before we talked about some work

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jazz as he not is number one
Naruto Baddie? Am I wrong? You're

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not wrong? It just came out
of nowhere. And then Emmy saw it

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and she was like, is this
what you guys talk about? It was

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like no, no, no,
no, no, we don't. We

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don't anyway, No we do though, Ay, so welcome everyone BombCast for

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vengeance. Why are we doing the
show? Well, you know, I

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just want an excuse to chat with
my friends more. That's really the main

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purpose. Sweet, these calm,
these these chuckle fudge is. I was

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sitting in a virtual room with me
for at least another hour but sometimes we

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can't talk about all the games on
Tuesday because embargos are weird now. Sometimes

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games come out later in the week
that we may even miss on the regular

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Bomb Cast. So we thought we'd
have this to talk about more games,

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maybe dive deeper into more games,
perhaps a spoiler cast if several folks have

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completed the game that we're all very
impassioned about. But there will also most

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of the time not be any news
because grub will still be covering it on

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Game as Mornings on Dregs Day.
Also no emails, probably no shoutouts either,

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but we will have a hot topic
of the week. We have cabbled

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together another fucking podcast. That's right, that's right with my friends. It's

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great. Yeah, it's all about
friendship. You decided it as like a

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magazine, and I don't know why
that made sense to me, And I

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was just like, yeah, that's
a grabular pop off. You were the

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one that put it like that.
Oh yeah, I saw that from Greg

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Miller, so and we don't give
him credit. Buck that guy. So

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now I turned around on that.
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and we're gonna have the BombCast still
every week and that's gonna be what it

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has been. But we don't take
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let's like take maybe a higher level
view of what's happening in gaming. We

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can get into those topics sometimes when
we're having conversations, but there's not a

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space for that, So we just
dedicatable space aside, so we can have

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fun conversations here and there, Like
I imagine this podcast is where uh spoiler

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casts can live. It is maybe
where if we want to just argue about

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the best game of a generation for
like an hour one day, we could

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do that here, that sort of
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year deliberations, warm ups really exactly. We're gonna get a little practice and

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that hill. Yeah, yeah,
I'm already anxious about a Game of the

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year. Man, what what's what's
so many there's so many good games game

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of the year. We can't do
that, do that? Oh okay,

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I guess no, you can't give
every game game of the year. It's

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just not how it works. Okay, all right, all right, you

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know, shoot, shoot your shot
right now, all of us here what

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is definitely not winning Giant bombs Game
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Kingdom knew you were gonna say it. I'm so curious because I think it's

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like there's a strong chance it won't
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a different directions and now came out. Yeah, so I mean that moment

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where we're boats in, I can't
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ship being talked right now, and
honestly, it's fun. I don't think

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the Kingdom chance he's gonna be hit
so much sweeter when it does win.

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Yeah. I think if I could
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feel like Dan's gonna you're wearing the
same hat. You're wearing the same hat

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back didn't put it on. Oh
it was a slide of hand. You

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guys all missed it. Yeah,
I'm fast. I think Dan's gonna die

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on that hill, and then I
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will. What do you think he's
gonna go after? I mean, I

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think we do it. He's gonna
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Wonder and Alan wake more are maybe
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than Tiers of the Kingdom. I
think I don't, dude, I'm gonna

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call I'm gonna care rules, rules. It's tough to have this conversation now

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though, you know, it's like, are they coming through the stream?

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I hope, yeah, they are
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Game of the Year at Giant Bomb. Let me see if you see the

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thing that would upset her as much
as when she said Zelda, but Balder's

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gay three? No chance? Am
I right? Well, man, I

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gotta before remake. That's the real
one that doesn't actually have a chance that

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Mike keeps saying it could make it
this year, Honey, For me,

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it's easily in the top Like,
can I say something that probably won't get

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into the top ten and here's the
hot But what's up? So hi fi

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rush? Oh that's like a recency
bias thing, I think, But no,

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I don't know. I'm exactly where
janis. It's not recency bias.

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I love that game. It's probably
not gonna make my personal top five,

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and I will be happy if it
mix my top ten, but I don't

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think it will. That's weird,
that's fair. You're right, there have

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been so many games. I've practiced
my monologue five times this year. Oh

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No, which which a nude team
games that came out this year. I

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don't know. Well, there's a
different game that starts with a nude person

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that's okay, fair enough. I
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one. That's a good one.
Uh well, let's talk about some video

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games. I have a list here, but you know what, I haven't

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spoke to Tam and Lucy about any
video games recently. What have you all

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been playing? You gotta pick?
You want to pick one? Oh,

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me, me, I've been playing. You can probably guess exactly what I've

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been playing. I'm playing Out of
Wake two. Oh. Perfect, Well,

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that's the game I have here.
Wonderful we've all been playing. I

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don't Wake to various degrees and that
is a good ass game. I've not

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finished it yet. I got like
pretty far in for like review stuff,

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and then end up traveling and doing
some other business as well. And yeah,

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I'm still I'm still making my way
for it, but I'm taking my

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time, which is something I'm trying
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nowadays. Yeah, I've heard people
say the game's a masterpiece and they they

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love it. And I'm story where
I'm where where people saw in the stream

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the other day, and if you
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basically the the Allen Wake experience beginning
for real, like I think I was

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going to start playing as him.
I'm not saying that I don't enjoy this

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game. I've enjoyed what I played
so far. I just haven't seen the

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things that have made people say what
makes it a masterpiece? And I'm wondering

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if it's seeing the guys can communicate
in any way that like can encourage me

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to keep going. I think I'm
on board with this game now, but

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anything you could say to be like, here's what you should be looking forward

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to. Obviously without spoiling we're trying
to avoid that. But you know,

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I don't know, tell me what
really is getting you guys at your motor

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boat's going for this? I think
you got to a point yesterday he was

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making you motor boat out in Wake. Yeah, what's making you motor boat

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the way? Who you mooting?
And Ellen wakeame? No? I think,

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Uh, I don't know if there's
like a moment. I think there's

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a lot of moments, but I
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kind of like opened my eyes wider
than they were before. I think it's

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a collection of a lot of different
things. And I also think you I

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don't know. I feel like at
the end of the stream yesterday, Grubb,

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you were at a point where you're
like, Okay, I think you

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seem to have a different Yeah,
you're hooked. Yes, I just I'm

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still not like I still don't understand
what what people mean when they I'm curious

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what Jen has to say about this. Uh. Michael Mahardy wrote an article

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for a Pulligan recently about uh,
the like the perfect fifteen minute sequence.

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I believe that was Mike, right, that was you wrote that, Mike.

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Uh. Sequence is called We Sing, We Sing. That's chapter four

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of Alan Wakes. I think it's
is that right where I'm about to start.

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No, No, you are,
You're a bit of ways from that.

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Okay, Okay, you'll know when
you get that, you will know.

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And let me tell you it is
one of the things I don't think

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I've ever experienced in a video game, let alone thought had ever thought to

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try and experience in a video game. And I think that's why a lot

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of people are equating Alan Wake two
to a masterpiece, because it is offering

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such a fresh experience for a lot
of players because you know, think not

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to poop poo on Resident Evil for
remake, you know, but please go

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ahead. But it's the same,
wet, goopy, gory game, not

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the same, you know, a
lot of improvements, an obscene amount of

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improvements over the original Resident Evil four, but like all the bells and whistles,

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all the tricks that they're pulling,
all the smoke and they're all working

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on overtime in Alan Wake two,
and then after that chapter, it's just

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like, all right, buckle the
fuck up, let's keep going. Uh.

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It's a I don't want to say
a once in a lifetime, but

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it's like a once in a every
five years type of experience where there's so

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many very ambitious games that come out
Indie Triple A, Double A B game,

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whatever else have you that may not
hit the mark completely for everyone.

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But I feel like if people just
sit down and set aside some time to

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play through this, a lot of
people will be wowed and walk away thinking

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like, holy shit, this is
amazing because there are people so many dumb

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ass people out there that think,
like, man, games haven't been good

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and how long now blah blah blah
games are all the same. Well that's

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not the fucking truth at all.
Fucking go outside, buy Alan Wake two,

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go back inside and continue playing.
Uh I you do you think someone

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could get the enjoyment from this game
from watching a YouTube playthrough? That's what

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I've heard, Like, oh,
it, it needs to be a video

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game. And again people saying this
is not a video game. No no

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no no no no no no.
People are saying it needs to be a

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video game to do what it does. And again I've not gotten to the

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spits yet. Oh and so,
so my experience has been I walk through

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the woods, I'm I come to
a cabin. I need to go get

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a fuse, put it in this
thing. Now the light's on. I

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go inside a house, like that's
the game I'm playing, And I still

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see, Yes, I see that
there are vague mysteries along the periphery that

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I need to explore more deeply.
But but what I've done so far has

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been like, maay, I'm playing
a video game that's pretty familiar in a

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lot of ways, and so I'm
just like waiting for it to open up.

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I think I do get the idea
it's going to open up soon,

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but I'm just like still looking for
what that is. This is a lot.

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I just feel like, Hey,
I don't think i've hit this point

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that Mike and you are talking about
jan So I'm very excited about this,

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I don't. I think this is
so amazing because it does uniquely work as

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a video game, and I think
we were all lamenting the idea of like

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probably gonna be an HBO show at
some point. I think there's a lot

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of just I don't know. I
think the game element of this allows it

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to be so many different things,
right, which is really fun. It

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allows it to be a movie,
It allows it to be a game,

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It allows it to be so many
other wear so many other hats, and

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believe me, I know a thing
or two about fucking hats. Yeah,

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he just changed to another hat right
now. I think I think there's an

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element of it feeling familiar because it's
stuff that Remedy has been doing to various

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degrees in other games that to different
levels of success. I feel like everything

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nothing in Hair feels new to Remedy, although it does feel uniquely Remedy,

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like no one else is doing live
action in their games as far as I

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can tell because Remedy has been doing
it for a while now, especially since

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Quantum Break. Definitely during a lot
more Control and Alan Wake two, it

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doesn't feel fresh. The thing about
it that's different here is like, this

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is the game where they figured out
the perfect ratio, the way to make

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it meaningful, the way to make
it interesting, and not like represent it

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as the same old gimmick from previous
years. It feels like in the previous

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years it could have been argued as
a this is a gimmick, This is

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a gimmick that they're just adding to
a very plain game otherwise, but that

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in hindsight, within the context of
Alan Wake. Now it's them clearly experimenting

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and figuring out how they can push
the envelope for how they present games and

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how the medium itself is delivered to
us. And this feels like the first

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time where they figured out, we've
we understand how to blur the line between

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video game, movie, book,
album, like all that kind of stuff

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is everything is This is the everything
game in a way that doesn't feel like

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a shitty like you know, marketing
scheme. This is the game where they

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were like, we know how we
can make live action work within this game,

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and they don't over commit like they
did in Quantum Break and make it

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twenty minute long, you know,
sequences, they have like all this stuff

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in perfect balance. I feel like, and that's what makes this game special.

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Yeah, I know a lot of
folks really were gushing, and I

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enjoyed Immortality a lot. That came
out last year, twenty twenty two,

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right, and you know, a
complaint with that game was you stopped feeling

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like a game after a while,
right, you was just point click adventure

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type of thing in piecing together the
mystery, and then felt a little bit

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cumbersome afterwards. But like here,
like what Tam said, like this is

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the perfect combination of game live action, watching it, exploring it, and

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feeling it. And then I think
the story bits kind of I don't want

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to speak for everyone here, but
like I'm a bad YouTuber, you know,

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creative, and there's like a weird
darkness that comes to that or pressures

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that come to that, and I
feel like this game really explores those themes

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incredibly well. Of feeling overworked,
feeling like you've hit a block, and

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like you haven't really changed over the
last couple of years, but really embracing

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the ability to adapt and to make
something new. Yeah, I haven't gotten

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to any of the Allen Wake stuff, and I think that's where the themes

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are really gonna be clashing against what's
happening with Sagas. So I'm looking forward

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to that. And I mean to
speak to what Tam was saying. I

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think that they aren't gimmicks. They're
tools, and they're being wielded by a

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team that is feeling very confident about
how to use these tools to convey meaning

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and ideas and story and gameplay to
the player. And I think the Mind

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Place is is a very good example
of that. It's right in your face,

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but they give me these multiple new
ways to not just interact with the

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story, but reinteract with the story. They're they're presenting these things in the

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world as you explore them, and
now let's go, let's retreat to the

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mind Place and let's reinforce all these
things. So you know what matters?

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You know, Nintendo does that by
like in a Zelda game, they highlight

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the word like that matters in the
whole sentence and it's like that one's red,

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So pay attention to that. I'm
like, Okay, that's that's nice

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that you're doing that, but that
doesn't really it's not really effective. This

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feels much more effective, but it's
like, let's make it cool to actually

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learn what we're trying to tell you
what this game is about. And the

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game is very good at that.
So that's the stuff that keeps pulling me

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through where I'm like, I am
curious about these mysteries, and you're giving

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me the tools that I need to
to engage with them and remember them and

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and actually feel like I have a
good grasp on what's happening. Uh,

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how do you How do you guys
feel about folks that are a little too

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spook to play through it? Do
you think watching like roll Hey, I'm

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glad Tam said it not made Jesus
Christ play with the lights on? What

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can I tell you? Uh?
I feel like I'm descends into is to

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yeah, I don't know it.
I was going to say, I'm yeah,

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I was playing it in the dark
and lights off. There's a lot

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of jump scar stuff and when you
die the game over screen is pretty inting.

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It is for sure. It's you
know, I res remake and I'm

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just such a crooked abuse thing I
find it reson before remake is I feel

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kind of the opening like with Resident
Evil, that's when it's the Bible horror,

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and then it just goes on to
the dumb all out action. Yeah,

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there's a level of camp there too
that I think kind of somehow skirts

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around. Yeah, it has like
the small town humor stuff, but it

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holds onto this to the weird scary
stuff all the way through, I think.

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But then again, I was watching
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So yeah, I think I've become
more sensitized recently in my life where I

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know, since I had kids,
I'm always on of like thinking about potential

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threats to them, ways they can
hurt themselves, and i'd like live in

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that zone twenty four to seven.
And I think that makes me very like

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I'm an exposed nerve of just like
if there's a little bit off, I'm

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going to be feeling it. It's
all right under the surface. So I

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found that spooky games, spooky movies
have been making me more stressed out in

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the last couple of years. And
I want to play these games. I

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want to enjoy them with everyone else. And I'll say that it's if you're

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too smook it. Really it's exposure
therapies kind of all that works. You

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have to just run right out the
scary thing the first. If you are

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scared in a scenario of the music's
starting to play up, if you know

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a bad guy's going to be around
around the corner, really the best thing

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to do is run right at them, Go get spared, Go let it

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just happen. And then now you
know what the threat is. And that

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has immediately desensitized me in a lot
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So I do I do that.
I do wonder if it's people looking

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at anan Wick and going, oh, this is a survival horror game,

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it doesn't and thus it means it's
spooky. I will not play this instead

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of actually playing it, because I
think I was going to say, like

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it it's not scary, it's unsettling, and it's like quite atmospheric. I

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don't I wouldn't describe it as like
being things that you would be like,

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oh my god, I can't look
at the screen anymore, and I feel

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like a few months of that where
you're like peaking. I was going to

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say, is you have some degree
of control in that moment, Like you

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it's not like, yeah, you
have some quantum break in the game as

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well. Yeah, I feel like
if you if you like I was just

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about to say, I was just
about I was just about to say,

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like, if you can, if
you're careful, you can control the max

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pain that you've seen. But but
like, yeah, in a moment,

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it's never there's never quite a jump
scare outside of the when you die and

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it does the weird like that kind
of shit. But like I've if you're

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it feels like it's pace in a
way where if you can usually sense when

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something's about to happen and you can
have that moment where you take a minute

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breathe kind of work your way up
to it and then go for it.

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I think like if you're just if
you're like, oh, this is scary.

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This is a scary game. That's
not for me. I mean,

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like, if you just don't like
those games, then whatever, do it.

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But if you're like, I really
want to play this game, but

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I think it's too scary, maybe
give it a try, because it's not

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as terrifying as you might imagine.
This one to play on Discord with friends,

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I had Sean for the podcast the
other night, and I just shared

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my stream with them and they were
just kind of talking me through it,

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and I was totally fine in that
scenario. I like that idea playing it

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with friends, especially now over discord
that I think that's a beautiful idea.

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I think, look, if you
make it past that first fifteen minutes,

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like, I think you could probably
hang Yes, yeah, I think that's

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right. Yeah. Yeah. Now, what I was going to say is,

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folks that may feel the pressure of
a survival horror game, just bump

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it down to story. It's complete. Yeah, you get plenty of resources.

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It can still be challenging. It
doesn't affect the puzzles or anything.

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Doesn't really affect your enjoyment of the
story. Game knows. I suck anyway,

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During that first boss, it's like, don't worry, I'm gonna spoon

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feed you this guy on a silver
platter. Don't worry. Uh, tam,

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How far are you are? You
almost near the end? You think?

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I think I'm doing the thing where
I like, I'll do a little

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bit of one path and then a
little bit of the other, and I'm

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going back and forth, and I
think I'm like most of the way through

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Alan's stuff. Okay, and I've
done a bunch of Saga stuff. I'm

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at a bit now with Saga stuff
that I've done before, so I'm kind

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of not avoiding it, but I'm
like, I want to see all the

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new stuff first. Wait, hang
on, you're at this stuff with Saga

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stuff that we played in LA.
Yeah, the very early stuff. Oh

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you've got lots of go Yeah,
yeah, I know. But I'm like

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I'm doing I've done almost all of
Alan's stuff. I think most of the

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way through. I think Saga stuff. Is it long? Yeah, it

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can't get super long because of the
exploring to the side. Yeah. Yeah,

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I loves this game, Like I
guys, I just I haven't felt

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like this in so long. I
just want everyone to know that. Well,

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okay, Like I actually wanted to
talk about that. It's a big

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deal for you. Were like,
yeah, this is my bucket list year

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baby. Like you say that,
Like, I don't. When I asked

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you before, you said it was
all of the things it's doing work together

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in conjunction. That's the explanation,
right, That's that's my explanation. But

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you know, I think I got
into it very specifically on BombCast the other

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BombCast on Tuesday, where yeah,
right, the nonvengeans it's actually called non

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prevengece now, uh, where you
know a lot of the points to made

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were like, I do think there's
a special uniqueness to this game's narrative,

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Chops, that it feels so refined
and so well tuned that I am enjoying

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it from every angle that you can
possibly do it where you are playing,

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you are watching, you are experiencing, exploring, and it's just my shit,

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man, Like I love scary,
spooky stuff and if you can do

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it in a way that has me
so excited that it shares cannon across games

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and is just like and again,
I compared it a little bit to Resonie

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before and Jane you touched on this
as well, where like we saw very

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much what Survival Horror looked like thirdy
however long ago I twenty years ago,

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right, and now where you're like, holy fuck, this is what we're

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doing in twenty twenty three and it
looks like this and it feels like this,

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and that is so like overwhelmingly positive
to me that I almost get teary

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eyed over like how much I love
being in that sort of space. It's

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it's it's like that. This is
why I'm curious, because I'm bouncing between

405
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those two games right now because I
got an idiot friend who go, Madi

406
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.319
me if I don't play Receivle.
So I'm playing Flat as well and UH

407
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:03.240
and it's like i'm playing that,
I'm like, oh, Dan, this

408
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.359
is shooting. Oh that feels good. That's a good feeling video game that's

409
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:12.400
got the juice over there and resonable
for uh. And and then I come

410
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.480
back to town and Wake and I'm
like, it's got juice in everything else.

411
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.000
It's just it's not trying to be
an action game in any way.

412
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.559
Resivul four was trying to straddle that
line a little bit. So I'm like,

413
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.680
I'm hoping I get to the to
where you're at. And there's nothing

414
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.440
that's like saying that that won't happen. But I'm like, I'm just really

415
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:30.559
hoping that. I want that for
me. I really want that for me.

416
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:33.960
You'll get there. I think you'll
get there. I think, like,

417
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.640
you know, I don't know.
I also think like there is a

418
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.440
certain level of like isolation and attention. I have to give a game like

419
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.680
this too. I have to like
enter the zone. I have to get

420
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.880
into the into like the you know
this, get the juice zone right where

421
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.519
like you create the environment maybe a
lot, a couple of candles, you

422
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:59.559
know, and I just I just
like ease myself into that hot tub and

423
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.000
then I'm in to Alan. What
if I what if I played in front

424
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:06.759
of my wife the way I'm doing? Well? Yeah, And because I

425
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:07.680
bet if she was like right there, like getting into it, I'd be

426
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.480
like showing it off would be like
really fun. I might try that because

427
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.680
sharing the story with other people has
been fun so far. That's been a

428
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.279
very special part of this for me, Like seeing like watching her like laid

429
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.279
like watching it laying down and then
like go up like this and just being

430
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:29.279
like what the fuck is really cool
and I take ownership of it. I'm

431
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:30.680
like, see, I did this
game. I did this game. I'm

432
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:34.680
showing like I'm showing it to you, but I well, I neve this

433
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:41.160
to you. I serve this to
you. You're welcome. Uh, Folks,

434
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.720
anyone playing anything else besides Alan Awake
two or anything specifically you want to

435
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.759
talk about, I do wonder Uh
damn, I know you've been playing Super

436
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.680
Mario Brothers. Wonder, Lucy,
did you give it a try? I

437
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.000
know you enjoyed it at packs,
but I also know Mario is not really

438
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:59.119
your thing. Have you had time
for it? You said Mary is not

439
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:04.519
her thing the UK where there wasn't
Nino didn't exist. I didn't know that.

440
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.839
I didn't know that it wasn't your
thing. That's okay. I just

441
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.799
had never heard you said that.
I never heard you say that. Okay,

442
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:17.279
the way back at you about it. We're learning a lot about each

443
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.880
other. John, you brought us
together. You didn't tell us it was

444
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:27.680
a fucking therapy session of offline.
So no, I haven't played it yet.

445
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:32.839
I did record FPS last night and
the boys were like, you should

446
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.440
play it, and Gerard was really
also saying how much he enjoyed the demo

447
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:41.200
for Super Mario, like RPG and
everything. So I really I want to.

448
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.599
I want to get into it.
I think I'm gonna do like Christmas

449
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.720
Christmas time because right now I'm going
to be going back to the UK for

450
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:51.680
a little bit. I want to
do. Is the World of Horror?

451
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:59.160
Yeah, yeah, kind of inspired
weird asking, I don't know, it's

452
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.559
like a text yeah kind of thing. Yeah, So I've got that queued

453
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:06.880
up, and then after that,
I'm gonna go into like a Dragon Guiden

454
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:13.039
and then yeah, man, I'm
so excited, and yeah, we're gonna

455
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.039
have like Christmas breakup. But I
mean, yeah, I feel like seems

456
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:20.160
like a good holiday game for sure. Well, those are the things I'm

457
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.279
going I'm going to get my niece's
a switch for Christmas, and I'll get

458
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:37.680
the one with Mario and love how
you say that name Mario? Yeah,

459
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:44.200
And so I said to it was
like, what if I gave them the

460
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:50.200
Christmas present early and set it up
and you know, we get to play?

461
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.680
And you were gunning for cool Aunt, don't you. Well, if

462
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:58.160
I don't live on the same continent, I've got to be the cool Aunt

463
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:02.240
the only way I know how,
and that's money games, baby games.

464
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.240
Well apparent Yeah, Apparently they're very
into Sonic because they've been watching The Car

465
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:15.680
Happens, and they're very into Mario
because they watched the movie. I've I've

466
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:21.279
also been playing The Cavern of Dreams, which is a new indie platformer that

467
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.200
is basically trying to be an N
sixty four game. You play it's like

468
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:31.359
a little Lizard guy. Yep.
Nice one. That's one, but it

469
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:39.039
was just that woo here this one, I don't know, Reggie, I

470
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:44.559
don't know it was gonna call him
Roger. Yeah, it's a it's really

471
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:49.079
neat. But and I like these
throwback indie platformers, especially once they are

472
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.759
trying to be like the three D
platforms from the N sixty four with like

473
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.119
one of my favorite eras of platformers. Uh. And it's got this really

474
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:59.839
cool momentum system where you play us
this little lizard who can roll. And

475
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.720
if you start the role from standing, it's going to be kind of the

476
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:07.319
slow moving around kind of an awkward
thing. But if you like jump into

477
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.119
it and then you hit the ground
as you're about like you hit your attack

478
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.320
right before you hit the ground,
you then can roll into it really hard

479
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:15.880
and then you can carry that momentum
forward. And there was like this big

480
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.039
gap that I was trying to jump
across, and it's very early in the

481
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.480
game. It's like a tutorial sort
of skill check at gait and getting across

482
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.320
there. I just couldn't hit it, couldn't quite hit it. And then

483
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.639
once I really got in the flow
of jumping up hitting this attack right before

484
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:31.880
I hit the ground, rolling into
the role and really feeling that. It's

485
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:35.719
like, oh, this feels really
good. It's like a skill based three

486
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.079
D platformer in a really cool way. And I think it's a good looking

487
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.440
game. I just it's always so
tough with these, like are they going

488
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.480
to have the interesting level design to
carry it through an entire game? And

489
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.880
that's tough. But I don't think
it's some huge, massive thing. And

490
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:52.360
this is from a guy that's done
a bunch of these, so kind of

491
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.639
having a little snack of a three
D platform every once in a while,

492
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:59.679
it was pretty cool. Okay.
Yeah, Cavern of Dreams is what that's

493
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:04.960
called. Love a little snack,
Love a little snack. Video games get

494
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.519
me hungry, baby. Uh.
Before before we go to break here and

495
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:13.559
get to the hot topic of the
week, I just want to go around

496
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.679
the room and see what everyone's strategy
is for tackling and preparing for game of

497
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.679
the year. Yeah. It's a
good, good, good topic in itself,

498
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.840
because I feel like I'm oh,
man, we shall have training montages.

499
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.320
Uh. I feel like I am
gonna have to try and lock myself

500
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:37.519
into streaming at night in my own
time to force myself to finish stuff what's

501
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.719
the what's the what's the top tier? Top priority for you, Jane,

502
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:46.559
I feel like I gotta give Balder's
Gate three another college try. I'm playing

503
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:52.440
it on on the Roger ally and
it's it's running pretty good on there now,

504
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:57.960
and I'm I'm I'm into it,
but I'm I keep bumping up against

505
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.239
just not really knowing what I'm doing
occasionally or being out of my depth.

506
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:06.000
And I ran it to this guy
Anders and he's level five and my characters

507
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:07.360
are all level two, and I'm
like, should I be where I'm at?

508
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.519
I get the feeling I shouldn't be. The game makes me feel bad

509
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.039
for running away from this fight,
but I'm gonna run away from this fight.

510
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:15.960
And then I went down the street
and there was like a bunch of

511
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:20.239
wolf men and they were also way
too high levels. So I'm like,

512
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.599
Okay, I'm not supposed to go
this way either. I'm just getting crushed

513
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:27.119
everywhere I go. So I'm like, I'm gonna have to sort of sneak

514
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.920
out of this place, go do
some more level appropriate stuff, and then

515
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.199
come back. But every time I
do have a conversation with anyone, and

516
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.960
every time I'm rolling the Dice.
I'm like, oh, there's so much

517
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.840
possibility here. It really is my
kind of games. So I'm into it.

518
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.840
And that's the game that's number one
for me as well, Jan That's

519
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.280
the one I want to play the
most. I think my problem is all

520
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.960
not the rest of the games that
I want to tackle and try and finish

521
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.400
this year. They're all fucking RPGs. Hey, oh wait, let's not

522
00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:00.400
talk about RPGs, Lucy, Lucy, I agree with you, dog,

523
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:06.360
but like they take too long.
I'm digging Star Ocean, Second Story r

524
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.199
whatever the heck we're calling it.
It's gorge. I think the game Freak

525
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:16.239
should steal this make other Pokemon remakes
look like this, because it's absolutely amazing.

526
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:22.920
But it's a long lead up Stars. I was just abant to bring

527
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:28.639
up Sea of Stars. That's when
I really want to play. Put it

528
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:34.920
on the back of ark Tam Lucy. Any any strats for tackling preparing.

529
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:39.400
I'm just gonna panic, uh,
you know, as usual, panic and

530
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:45.239
try and play everything I possibly can. There's uh, there's like one or

531
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:51.280
two gigantic holes in my h gaming
year that I should probably address. Street

532
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.760
Fight Er six. You no,
I played that played that, Yeah,

533
00:37:54.079 --> 00:38:00.320
played like bits of it. It's
really boulders Gate. I didn't even touch

534
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.079
that ship. I don't even know
exactly what it is. I've just been

535
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:09.119
nodding and asking generic questions to assume
that I appear that I'm interested. You're

536
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:12.599
just helping it, like like we'll
pass you by. You can help it,

537
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.800
just wash it over. And I
just don't have to, like it

538
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:22.519
shouldn't be an issue, you know, it seems unimportant. But uh yeah,

539
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.760
so I need to do that.
I also need to play. I

540
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.239
started Cocoon and I really dug what
I played, and I feel like,

541
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.559
yeah, oh and the other one, so okay, so if it's only

542
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.400
four I'll get through that at some
point. I got nothing going on,

543
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:44.119
right, and then Cyberpunk. I
want to do more cyberpunk. Oh yeah,

544
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:49.760
you should finish that. That's great. Yeah, so I have two

545
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.840
long haul flights coming up. I'm
in the middle of buying like a big

546
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.920
do never have a recommendation for a
good remote battery that I can use.

547
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:01.400
I saw one that's anka Yeah,
well I haven't anchor, but this one

548
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:07.239
it plugs in and uh so you
can use it as a wall plug,

549
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:13.440
but it charges it as it plugged
in. That's clever. I like the

550
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.280
sound of that a lot. I
might buy that one. But if anyone

551
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:19.360
has any other recommendations, I would
love to hear it. Its good ship.

552
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.679
I mean I've got one right here, but this this boy is old

553
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:29.559
heavy. Sure, yeah, just
get a newer boy, and like the

554
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:31.800
battery capacity will last you a little
longer, and make sure it has like

555
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:38.760
the bandwidth to like charge your ally
and switch or whatever. Maybe what you're

556
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:44.559
gonna it's I think maybe look for
about one hundred watt output. That's probably

557
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.679
what you want. Yes, if
possible, let's but most us yes,

558
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.519
USB C power Delivery p D.
If it has USB CPD, then you're

559
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.920
probably gonna be okay. But if
you can get up that eighty one hundred

560
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.960
watt range so that actually does charge
relatively quickly, then you'll be good.

561
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:06.199
Sweet Yeah, because I have I
obviously have like an in in seat,

562
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.599
you know, right, want to
train? Yeah? Yeah, totally.

563
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.119
Before we move on, is there, like the outside the obvious ones we

564
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:19.679
mentioned, is there a game that
you hope other people play before we get

565
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:24.840
the Game of the year Dredge?
That's a good okay, Should I go

566
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:28.400
back to that. Okay, cool, that's the one I'm gonna do.

567
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.880
And I think, yeah, Jane, I think in particular, you will

568
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.079
really enjoy think you Hammond of Texas
with sending that link, David Diver.

569
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:43.000
Yeah, also and Team I've been
playing a lot scenarios is great good.

570
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.360
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's it's fun. I feel like you

571
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:50.119
you'll figure out whether or not you
like that game in maybe like two hours.

572
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:54.679
Yeah, I'm really I'm really stoked
for Tallas Principal too. Yeah.

573
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:02.280
I don't know anything about this.
It it's just puzzle games many right,

574
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:06.599
it's a solve the album. Yeah, is that what we landed on calling

575
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:12.320
those things? I can't remember,
but that's like the first persons. The

576
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:16.480
problem is is that it makes me
Rea sick. Yeah, I could see

577
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:25.960
that, So I adding to my
list Thirsty. If you tried playing try

578
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:34.599
playing Talents Principle on the Roger ally
it might help with the because you're like,

579
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.559
yeah, yeah, I playing it
in third person two will be will

580
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:43.719
definitely help. I haven't played El
Paso elsewhere yet. I know a lot

581
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.239
of people really enjoyed that good Bye
Volcano High came out. I'm just looking

582
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:50.760
at my Steam. I'm like,
good bye Volcano High came out this year.

583
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.519
Yeah, I think I have that
my Steam too, and I never

584
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:57.840
do anything with it. See Skylines
too. That one's in rough shape,

585
00:41:57.880 --> 00:41:59.880
so I think we're going to be
safe on that one until they do some

586
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:06.760
updates. Yeah, great shape.
Yeah. The one that I that's definitely

587
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:10.119
in my top three still that I
would like to get some love, but

588
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:14.559
I know it's it's Unlikely's pickment four. I think it's true, Pie,

589
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.679
It's truly very very good. It's
it's my first full pickment. I enjoy

590
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.280
it a lot. I might go
back into it. I should go back

591
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.400
into it. Did you play tiny
Kin from last year? I did not

592
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.960
like tiny Kin? Oh that's right. That's the thing I hate about you

593
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:37.760
Jam other than my other than my
crippling gambling addiction and coffee addiction and an

594
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:45.840
ass that just won't quit. Wow. Wow, This truly is a therapy

595
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:54.239
session. That two games. I
going off that tip that gre mentioned blasphemous

596
00:42:54.280 --> 00:43:04.039
two All right, huh, it's
it's a really good metroid Vania. It

597
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.280
makes me confront all of my catholic
guilt, which is fun. Oh ship,

598
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:17.280
Okay, Catholic metroven that boys.
Yes, oh ship ship, I

599
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:22.440
just typed something and it's gone.
Can you promise me to play that?

600
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:34.480
You will play Where's Where past It? Modern Warfare three on it? Yes,

601
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.719
Yes, I'm gonna play Humanity.
Yes, I've been trying to think.

602
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.559
You played that with my kid and
had to answer a lot of upsetting

603
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:46.760
existential question. It's just on the
PlayStation, I think. Yeah, he's

604
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.960
like, where are they going?
Where are all these people going? I'm

605
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:54.599
like, I don't know, but
we don't have that question. All right,

606
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:58.679
I'm downloading Humanity right the second,
which is probably gonna ruin my podcast,

607
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:05.559
but oh well, it's worth it. Wow, I'm just suddenly reminded.

608
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:14.840
Yeah, I'm suddenly reminded that there's
an obscene amount of video games that

609
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:21.079
I've still yet to even touch,
and it makes me sad inside. Oh

610
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:24.519
boy, oh boy. Almost here's
the good news. We just got to

611
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:28.320
get down to twenty and then we
just vote and then you just pick your

612
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.920
favorite. Well, yeah, here's
the thing, you know, with the

613
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:32.840
staff, with the team we have, I feel like we cover a wide

614
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:37.400
net of games that I feel like
the twenty we get down to, I

615
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.000
feel confident that those are the twenty
best games of the year. Also,

616
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:46.519
we're all super fucking smart and said, I feel confident. I'm just going

617
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:51.119
through like puberty again. You know. The scard thing is it was actually

618
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.320
hard to cut some games out of
the top twenty last year. It was

619
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:59.039
so I think it's actually going to
be a bloodbath this year. Four.

620
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:00.639
It's going to be three or four
games left out that are gonna be like,

621
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.280
oh, that's that hurts people asking
what the mic is going to be,

622
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:12.400
including delations is absolutely no. No
Cam will quit if he is.

623
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.679
He said it multiple times. We
can't have someone with opinions that bad.

624
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:28.320
I'm just so it was too easy. Someone else hear that. That was

625
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.800
really cool. I just thought that
was like a new door bell I had

626
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:37.039
or something, just like, wait, everything right, and they indicted me

627
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:45.280
and we're going to take a quick
break and then we'll be back with our

628
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:51.480
hot topic. That's right, we're
over here. It's next to the food

629
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:55.639
court. Time to go get your
funko pops, anime T shirts, selective

630
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:02.400
wrestling memorabilia, and weird body piercing
jewelry because we're at the hot topic today.

631
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.880
Hell yeah, man, I wait, someone could have a horned Wait

632
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:16.079
wait wait, we're at the hot
topic today. Hell yeah, it makes

633
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.800
it better that the horn is just
like again, I got that one.

634
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:23.360
I'll go about one. Okay,
all right, we're at the hot topic

635
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:31.360
today, solving crimes. That's right. We put a wait, wait one

636
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:35.840
more time, do one more time. Okay, we're at the hot topic

637
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:42.440
today, fat ass white girled.
My that's more like it. Hey,

638
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:47.440
you know, depending on the type
of I'm not trying to get canceled today,

639
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.400
I'm not trying not to get jo
canceled. God, you know,

640
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:57.119
I've been rewatching community lately, and
I realized I'm just like, I'm Ken

641
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:02.000
Jong's character and the fucking Deans inserting
my knee into virtually everything. But people

642
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:08.920
who do that the fucking worst.
Yeah earth, yeah wow. Anyway,

643
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:15.280
Okay, hot topic. Uh,
the hot topic we decided hot topic.

644
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:22.079
Uh. Shouts out to Jim gaffickan
bits from twenty years ago. We've chatted

645
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:27.039
about this for quite a while on
the website, and I thought, what

646
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.280
better time than to just start a
whole new podcast besides conning my friends spending

647
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:36.519
more time with me, is to
talk about why, potentially is this switch

648
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:42.320
the best console ever. No,
oh all right, well open it?

649
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:47.719
Yeah quick, you got no,
Okay, this Switch is a fantastic console.

650
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:52.159
Don't get me wrong, but it
is a fantastic console basically for Nintendo

651
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:58.840
on Fortnite and Minecraft. If you
want to play any other Triple A game,

652
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.320
the worst player to play is on
the Nintendo Switch. Well, the

653
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:06.480
Triple A games aren't going on there. Yeah, a bunch of one like

654
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.320
U you know you've got They stream
a bunch of stuff like Control was on

655
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:17.000
that apparently coming to it. Yeah, overwatches on the Apex is on there,

656
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:22.119
but they're the worst versions of those
games. And so that's why the

657
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:27.840
PC is the best consopt Well wow, okay, wow PC. I'm a

658
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.119
PC person, but PC is not
a console. Okay, Well, in

659
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.440
that case, the best console sixteen. See, I think I'm with Lucy

660
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:38.880
in everything she has said the last
five minutes. I will say that Jeff

661
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:45.360
sixty is a special one. I
just the switch line up, like,

662
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.800
yeah, you could just say just
Nintendo games, that's like twenty of the

663
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:52.880
best games ever made in the last
sixty six or seven years and play Elden

664
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.599
Ring on the well, fuck elemen
Ring. I mean listen. Okay,

665
00:48:54.599 --> 00:49:05.280
elder Ring was the woad. Okay, that's what that was. Actually,

666
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:10.360
did you don't you've played your cards? Imagine you put the whole monologue on.

667
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.559
I don't worry about it. So
okay, Yeah, in Triple A

668
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:21.719
Games, that's going to be the
big slide against the Switch. But I

669
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.079
play a lot of indie games.
I play way more indie games that I'm

670
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:27.679
playing Triple A Games, not just
now but for many years now. I

671
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.159
played eighty ninety hours of Dead Cells
on there and that was amazing. I

672
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.960
played one hundred and fifty hours of
Hades on there and that was amazing.

673
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.400
And there's twelve thousand games on the
Switch and a lot of it's ship but

674
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:44.079
a lot of it's actually pretty good. I mean what this is, Oh,

675
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:45.119
there's a lot of shit on all
consoles, Like you go there,

676
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.639
Yeah, but like that many games
getting released, you're gonna be able to

677
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.079
go in there and just explore and
find some gems. But really it does

678
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.639
come down to I think those Nintendo
games have been on a real high tag.

679
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.760
Yeah, they've been on like strength
to strength, and starting in twenty

680
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.280
seventeen with Mario Otissey, one of
the best games ever made, and Zelda

681
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.239
of what's the first one called the
Breath of the Wild. Yes, and

682
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:14.599
then and then a really good Mario
Kart game, not maybe arms, but

683
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:16.800
like every year sentence had at least
one or two pretty good ones. And

684
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.880
then we're in twenty seventeen we have
Pickman four, another Zelda, and now

685
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:23.920
Super Mario Brothers Wonder and it's just
like, man, that's a really really

686
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:28.559
strong lineup. If we're comparing first
party can get games. I do think

687
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.519
there's a really strong argument for the
switch, but I'll agree the weakness that

688
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.239
probably is the third party, right, And I think that's what you have

689
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.400
to consider when we're talking about this, right, Yes, yeah, of

690
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.679
course in a vacuum like, yeah, I think it's the best. I

691
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:45.519
think it's the best Nintendo console ever. Sure, that's easy. That's easy.

692
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.559
I think that's pretty easy. I
think you have to look at the

693
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:54.280
fact Lucy brought up backs Box three
sixty, literally a console where every single

694
00:50:54.320 --> 00:51:04.440
one they made originally broke, Hey
Bose, break Coon drift. I wonder

695
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.199
if you know, right, so
there's that too, But every single Xbox

696
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:12.159
three sixty was defective. I'm not
joking. That's true, don't never know.

697
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:17.679
That's exactly what happened. A billion
dollar right off. I feel like

698
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:23.880
people are very, very very understanding
the PlayStation to today. We'll get there.

699
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:30.239
There is not even a competition.
It's fine, it's fine. I

700
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:36.440
can also change my vote. But
I think I think there is an I

701
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:40.039
know it's fleeting. I think there's
a an amazing legacy moment where you're like,

702
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:44.840
god, damn, that was a
broken console and it still has this

703
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.760
legacy that is like almost impenetrable.
I think that because that's when it made

704
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:51.559
playing games with other people, and
that's just playing games with other people being

705
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:53.840
go on your friends list and see
what everyone else is playing. And for

706
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:57.599
those first couple of years, it
was like everyone's just playing Oblivion, and

707
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.320
then everyone's playing the next game,
and then everyone's playing the next game at

708
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.840
the same time, and that making
you feel like you were part of something

709
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:07.280
was pretty magical at the time.
And so yeah, that stuff, I

710
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:08.760
don't think it's ever been better than
the Xbox three sixty. When it comes

711
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:15.559
to we have we have, we
already moved past the idea. Here's what

712
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:17.559
here's what I want to say.
Add to that, I think if the

713
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:22.760
Switch is not the best console ever, which I'm still on defense of saying

714
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:27.320
whether or not it is, I
think it joins fuck, god, damn.

715
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:31.280
It's another wrestling analogy, the short
list. He joins that list of

716
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:37.400
pillars in uh, the mountain,
Sure, the mount rushmore. Where Like

717
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.159
when I fondly think back the last
couple of generations, I think of the

718
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:44.159
three sixty, I think of the
PS two. I think a couple of

719
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.679
years from now we will think of
the Switch in that same case. Sure,

720
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:53.039
I think I think we can all
agree that no one is going to

721
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:58.519
be saying the PlayStation three. Nope, exactly right, the PlayStation is real.

722
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.280
Miss. What is what is the
topic that you wrote down? Is

723
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:05.840
the Switch the best console ever?
Okay? That is the question that when

724
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.679
you answer it's in top five,
it's a yes or no, yes or

725
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:14.039
no, and the answer is no, no, yes, no. I

726
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:16.480
mean like it is. It's it's
a good console, like it's a good

727
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:20.719
handheld device. It's got some good
games on it, but it was like

728
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:25.119
immediately outclassed by everything around it.
I feel like the idea of a good

729
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:32.320
console is you have to also factor
in the fact that owning a switch also

730
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:37.800
makes you incredibly envious of literally everyone
else around you who has anything else,

731
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:39.400
because you're like, I can't play
that I can't play, that I can't

732
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.559
play, that I can't play that
you have. The switch is like I

733
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.599
remember when it first came out,
everyone was like, you get a console

734
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:50.320
and then switch on top to like
to be you play the Nintendo games.

735
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.719
And I feel like that is why
it can't be the be all end all.

736
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:58.480
I love my Switch, but I
am playing Nintendo games on it and

737
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.320
nothing else. It can't implementary Kendo
console. I don't think that can make

738
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:08.079
it a like any other console in
history, makes a better case for owning

739
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:13.199
it on its own, even like
the GameCube, which had a real rough

740
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:15.079
goal of it, I would say, has a better case to make for

741
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:20.280
owning a GameCube and nothing else than
the Nintendo Switch does. Well, that's

742
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:23.840
the that is the set of characters
that you are judging them by, right,

743
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:29.639
Yeah, Because for me, I
get the it's the being INDIAUS thing.

744
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:32.199
I get when people say that,
but I don't feel that at all

745
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:36.800
with my switch because my switch just
fits with how I play games so much

746
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.400
that it's like it's not on the
Switch. I'm good, I'm I'm hanging

747
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.800
out, I'm laying on my bean
bag, I'm gonna play some games before

748
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.800
we're going to bed. I can
play a little bit in bed and getting

749
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:51.039
on the TV and making a night
of it. I'm past that in a

750
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:54.119
lot of ways where it's just like
it's these games, especially if it's gonna

751
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:59.880
be a familiar game or familiar genre
or something like that. And that's why

752
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:01.800
where the Switch is like, Okay, we're gonna make it easy for games

753
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:05.679
to fit in your life and they
can come to you wherever you're at,

754
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:07.360
whether that's whether you're traveling or at
in the house and you're want to sit

755
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.320
with your family while they're watching TV
or whatever. Uh. And so that's

756
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:15.400
that goes a long way for the
form factor for me. But but then

757
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.480
you know, I win a game
is on there, and I will admit

758
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:21.679
I'm not playing a lot of the
Triple A games on there that do get

759
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.079
ported. I played a little bit
of The Witcher, but that was years

760
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:29.079
after it came everywhere else, so
that hardly counts, and it always is

761
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.760
a worse experience. But there are
so many good games on the Switch that

762
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:38.239
have that don't even factor into that
arithmetic like that that it It's never even

763
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:43.159
really occurred to me as a problem. I'm playing the Switch constantly and have

764
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:46.239
been for six or seven years straight
now, so I just don't feel that

765
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:52.079
at all. How you getting on
with the online stuff on this one,

766
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:59.440
So that's I I agree with Grub
a good chunk of it, except for

767
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:04.679
the nintend Switch Online service, where
it is very lackluster. I flipped my

768
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.440
shit when they announced that they'd be
adding Game Boy Advance games to it,

769
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:13.960
and to this day, I don't
think we have that many still. At

770
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:15.840
least we don't have the ones that
I would consider as like part of the

771
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:22.599
canon of the GBA, like if
they had thrown in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

772
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:27.079
I'd be down with grubs saying that
this is the best console ever because

773
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:31.400
I have that opportunity to play this
game all over again, and now there's

774
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:35.760
other people that also have this opportunity
to play that game all over again.

775
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:37.920
Grubb, you were about say about
the online stuff, Yeah, I mean

776
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:43.360
it's bad, especially when it comes
to any sort of trying to communicate with

777
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:45.639
your friends. They're like, use
this app, and that app is a

778
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:51.679
joke. It's a fucking joke.
It's really bad. You know. I've

779
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:53.880
had good online experiences on the Switch, but most recently with Wonder, and

780
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:55.960
like I said, I think I
said this this morning, and that's the

781
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.440
exception that proves the rule with Nintendo
online stuff. Obviously they can do better,

782
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:04.119
and they just haven't. They just
haven't because look at this game.

783
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:07.400
It's a perfect online game. There's
literally nothing wrong with how the online works,

784
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.599
and that in fact, almost every
game should be copying what Super Mario

785
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:15.039
Brothers Wonder is doing. And that's
obviously copying a lot how from software games

786
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.639
work like that, but they've made
it makes sense in a in a family

787
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:23.519
game. But every other game is
like their biggest online games, Super Smash

788
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:28.639
Brothers Ultimate. People don't play that
online. People who love that game don't

789
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:32.199
play it online because the online is
so bad. So and that's an argument

790
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:37.000
that really does appeal to me when
I hear that, it's like other systems

791
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.320
have figured that out and you're taking
that forward or established it like the Xbox

792
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:43.800
three sixty did I think when it
comes to the online stuff Xbox three sixty,

793
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:46.119
when it comes to the Library PS
two, I do I think that's

794
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:57.719
probably where the argument probably should be
happening. So I still maintain that it's

795
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:01.199
not the best. Yeah, it's
not think it's not it. I've got

796
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:08.000
one recently and it's great. Pretty
What what if we did a either a

797
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:13.519
top five or a mount rushmore?
How many faces are on the rushmore?

798
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:20.639
As many as you want? This
full faces? That's before I guess Sun

799
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:29.840
Diamonds and so yeah, it's another
and uh and and jojo, all right

800
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:39.440
listen and then one can babe.
I think it's I think it's okay.

801
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:44.159
So we're saying yes, being there
right, let me get this out of

802
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:49.360
my brain real quick. I feel
like there. I feel like the Switch

803
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:55.320
hasn't completely reached its full potential because
of it doesn't have much time left well,

804
00:58:55.719 --> 00:59:00.639
and I don't think it will.
I don't think it will because of

805
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:05.320
Nintendo kind of putting itself in both
camps of wanting to be a home console

806
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.760
wanting to be a handheld. There's
not enough stuff for the Switch to be

807
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:14.360
a modern handheld device that's fun.
Like. I think it'd be completely different

808
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:20.199
if there's street Pass available on it
or some type of like more mobile friendly

809
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:22.880
online games, which the Switch is
just not built for it, and it's

810
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:27.599
also not built to be like a
home console that you just leave plugged into

811
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.280
the TV. So you're not saying
that it hasn't reached his full potential.

812
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.519
It has reached his full potential.
It's just that it's potential, isn't ye

813
00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:38.519
fun. Yeah, they can go
to different it can't reach potential it doesn't

814
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:42.920
have. Yeah, they can't go
to Namik and talk to the old Namechian

815
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:49.400
and have him touch his forehead and
just yeah. I if you're like looking

816
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.400
for the era of like what they
did with the DS and especially the three

817
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.400
DS, yeah I could see that, but I don't know that was for

818
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:59.280
me a time and place thing.
The Switch is trying to be a very

819
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.679
different comp sold in that. Uh
So, Jen, I'm gonna need you

820
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:06.639
and I'm gonna need you to say
it, whether it is or isn't the

821
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:13.199
greatest console of all time, say
it in full it same way. What

822
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:17.480
is I want to hear what you
think is? Okay, the Nintendo Switch

823
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:23.840
is not the best console of all
time? There it is there, it

824
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:36.039
is, folks. The Xbox three
sixty is can we throw can we throw

825
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:39.119
in? Handouts? Handouts? Like
handout consoles. I guess, I guess,

826
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:43.159
I mean because I would probably put
the DS up there in the in

827
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:46.079
that Mount Rushmore if well, I
think we have like I think we have

828
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:51.599
a solid three right, Like I
think we have switched PS two and three

829
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:55.599
sixty and then it's like, oh, what's that four spot? And are

830
01:00:55.599 --> 01:01:02.559
we charitable? What we've got PS
two switch sixty and sixty, which is

831
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:07.000
nice? Everyone's represented there like the
Big Three? What about the Steam Deck?

832
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:09.840
Then? If we true, do
you want everyone to know we can't

833
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:17.920
do very consolely though? We can't
do it's all the consoles open. It's

834
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:22.519
a piece, it's a piece,
feels like it's a Superintendo. I do

835
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.440
feel like it's a Superintendo. When
yeah, I mean I think I think

836
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:28.440
you're I think you're probably right.
He says that first in the song as

837
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:37.079
well. Yeah he does, he
does Genesis getting over whatever, Okay,

838
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:40.400
any anything else that could go in
there, though, anyone have anything else

839
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.760
that they would want to put in
there? I mean those Tiger electronic handhelds

840
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.440
that they pass out happy meal.
I was gonna say maybe the original Antis,

841
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:54.280
but I mean a Dream cost with
a boot disc. Sure, Yeah,

842
01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:59.840
well, I mean d S three
d S I would probably back for.

843
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:05.199
Actually, yeah, yeah, that's
a good day. The DS.

844
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.159
I think it is the good one
because it has a game Boy Advanced Cartridge

845
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:09.280
slot in there, which should count. So you write all of the game

846
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:15.280
Boy Advanced library and and the DS
fucking rules clever girl. It has a

847
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:19.280
Switch like library in terms of a
ton of games coming out, and a

848
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:22.679
lot of the Nintendo stuff was very
good, stuff like Dragon Quest nine was

849
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:27.599
amazing on there, and I don't
know, Elite Beat Agents Jesus Christ.

850
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:30.800
Yeah, there's so many good games
on this. I think the appeal of

851
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:35.239
the DS is that Nintendo is able
to reach peak weirdness. Yeah, in

852
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.760
a way that like a lot of
people are able to finally digest. Like

853
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:43.320
Phoenix Right came out on the DS
first r Latin America, in the United

854
01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:47.159
States. In the United States.
Oh man, I like this. I

855
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.360
like where this is how I want
them, This is how do we drop

856
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.440
the Super Nintendo for it? Yeah, I think with that is like the

857
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:58.840
switch. While you know, the
Nintendo Switch Online is in his robust A

858
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:00.960
lot of those Super Nintendo games pop
up in the collections and stuff like that.

859
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:05.320
You can play them on the switch, and so it's like this this

860
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.239
huge library sort of thing that really
kind of overpowers that for me, and

861
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:12.000
so I'd like I would keep the
switch on there, put the DS on

862
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.119
there, PS two, Xbox three
sixty, and wrap it up. So,

863
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.280
you know, I think that putting
the DS on there is a good

864
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:23.760
shout because the DS offered a lot
of very specific experiences that you can only

865
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:28.199
get on the DS. On the
d you know, because like they re

866
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:31.400
released Pokemon Diamond and Pearl on the
Nintendo Switch and a big component of that

867
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:35.920
game was the dual screen, and
they just tried to do a picture and

868
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:37.800
picture. It just made me hate
the game, which is one of my

869
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:43.400
favorite Pokemon games. So that dual
screen essential. You know, what else

870
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:46.440
we haven't considered is the fact that
you can slam a DS shut. The

871
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:54.000
clamshells are so good with authority,
like your gameplay thing where it's like you

872
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.880
were closing it would cause like a
stamp to get stamped and I can't remember

873
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:02.599
what game it was or Spirit tracks. Yeah okay, yeah, yeah,

874
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.119
yeah, so I don't know.
Just something about that was just so clever

875
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:09.519
and fun. I also had Grand
Theft Auto Chinatown Worst which is a really

876
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:16.480
really good game. It was advertised
by Nicole Kidman. Yes, yeah,

877
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:21.960
yeah, brain Age. Oh that's
really good, Lucy, I know exactly

878
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:27.960
what you're doing. They're very good. Yeah. Col Kidman's brain Age was

879
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.159
very shocked about it. Problem is
that the Castlevania games some game Boy answer

880
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.039
better. But they're pretty good on
Yeah, that's true, they're pretty good

881
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:38.280
on the DS. I'm okay with
us. Scribble Knots first popped off on

882
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:41.920
the d S and that like blew
my mind as a kid. Yeah,

883
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:49.599
the bestsover okay with that? Ah, because I think Nikki brought it up.

884
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.039
They said, like, what was
the what was the game where you

885
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:55.679
had to draw the spells on the
bottom screen? Do you do that?

886
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.719
No, Comy Den you do that. You definitely do that in one of

887
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:01.000
the Castlevania ones. Yeah, you
draw spells in that e comedy. Then

888
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:06.880
the world ends with you. Yeah, there's there's probably more, almost certainly,

889
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:11.039
Oh, there's a Kingdom what was
the Kingdom? Hawks one that was

890
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:16.079
Memories Memories Tony Hawk's American skate Land. It's actually hell yeah, you know,

891
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:19.800
I reserve this that. I think
the d S versions of Cooking Mama,

892
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:23.400
are the best versions of cooking Mama. I can see that. Oh

893
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:27.599
that rhythm having game is so good
on the ds man, there's a bunch

894
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:30.360
of that. Was a game called
it's a Ubisoft game I think called Project

895
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:34.360
Rub which was Randy Funny. Wait
was it rub Rabbits or also in the

896
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:38.880
UK it was called Project Rub.
Okay, yeah, it's it's exactly what

897
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:51.400
you so loud. I didn't put
it one hundred and fifty volume. If

898
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:56.880
you're a menace, you're a menace. It's half and I was like,

899
01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:00.519
no, that bad boy. I
could also said it to be the server

900
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:10.920
entrance sounds all right, everybody,
man, okay, all right, all

901
01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:13.920
right. So what we have got
PS two, Xbox three, sixty switch

902
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:17.559
and the Nintendo DS. That's right, it feels good, it feels I

903
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.239
feel good about that. I feel
good about our choices. Me too.

904
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:24.159
I'm just going to switch it and
get completely kicked to the curb. That's

905
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:27.000
I'm happy with that. So we've
got we've got a uh, we've got

906
01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:30.159
list. Then, yeah, we
do I think we do out loud.

907
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.119
Uh yeah, I'll do it one
more time, tam h you ready,

908
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:35.840
yep? All right, wait wait, wait, real quick, real quick,

909
01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:39.400
real quick, before you read off
this list, I want to bring

910
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:44.199
everyone's attention to one of the neatest
versions of Guitar Hero with Guitar Hero on

911
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.199
Tour on the DS. Yes,
yeah, that was wild. That ship

912
01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.880
was absolutely the headphone jack right,
is that what it was? In the

913
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:55.280
Game Boy Advance? Oh, the
Keyboy Advanced Slot. Yeah, and then

914
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:58.920
you have little buttons through okay,
uh, the Nintendo DS, the Nintendo

915
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:02.599
Switch, the stocks three sixty,
and the PlayStation two. Feels good,

916
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:08.320
feels good. We're gonna get?
Are we gonna get? Like a Wikipedia

917
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:12.159
pager was like. Oh, and
the Nintendo DS was named as one of

918
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:17.679
the Mount Rushmore of gaming consoles by
Jackson coveted their coveted mount Rushmore or Yeah,

919
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:21.239
that's definitely gonna happen. Excellent,
great, excellent work here today,

920
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:26.360
everybody. Excellent scientific work. Look
at us, hey, look at us,

921
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:30.400
Look at us. Who would have
thought, not me? What a

922
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.079
civil discussion. I think we're almost
ready for Game of the year. Look

923
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:36.760
at that. We we able to
look past their differences. No one cussed

924
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:41.719
each other out. You know,
it's yet at least who knows what will

925
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:45.840
happen? Next time, folks,
We're open to any type of hot topic

926
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:49.719
you'd like us to discuss. Sometimes, you know, the hot topic will

927
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:56.960
come organically. Next week, it's
gonna be hyper specific on a very specific

928
01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:02.719
topic. Uh it's the and we're
gonna talk about that one. Hell yeah

929
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:09.039
exactly. But I've had a lot
of fun. I cannot wait to be

930
01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:15.280
on the Bomb Cast and be on
BCR and catch y'all every Tuesday and Friday

931
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:17.760
moving forward. Well, sometimes Fridays
will change next week's Veterans Day here in

932
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:23.479
the US, So it's gonna be
a little funky. But I've been Janachella,

933
01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:26.800
he's been Jeff. He's been Jeff, he's been Tam, she's been

934
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:30.880
Lucy. And you at home have
been doing great. You deserve the best.

935
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:35.399
You should get yourself a present before
anyone else. This Halloween season.

936
01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:42.359
Not Halloween season, Holiday season,
Halloween season to me, Jennet, I

937
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:45.520
just pointed at my wrong camera.
Okay, like we're all doing fine.

938
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:51.720
We're all doing fine. Jeff grub
is taking on an improper habit. Go

939
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:56.760
go buy some pie, you know
what. Go go to the local cinnabon

940
01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:00.279
next to the hot topic in We'll
see you next week for another episode of

941
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:09.560
Giant BombCast Revengeance. Thank You,
I love Hie. I don't like any

942
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:15.520
of that happen. He's got some
Labowski energy. Man. He he does