WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:09.839 Face of the earth. Not that bombastically, but it's a holiday. June 2 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:13.960 nineteenth is a holiday or Juneteenth for people who don't know how to count. 3 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:20.440 Gary Jeff Walker in for Bill Cunningham on this Monday afternoon on SEVENLW. It's 4 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:24.960 great to be with you today. We've got a fantastic show. Chris Smitherman, 5 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:30.719 the Smithers makes an appearance this half hour lot to talk about in the 6 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:35.799 city of Cincinnati. From a man who's kind of on the sidelines now not 7 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:39.359 on the front lines, a guy who's been behind the lines. Will be 8 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:44.960 our first guest, and that introduction coming in moment. Also former FBI well 9 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:50.640 Beat Cup who became an FBI whistleblower and nearly paid for it with his life, 10 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:56.119 certainly his way of life, certainly his ability to make a living. 11 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.560 Stephen Friend will be with us at one oh five. You may have seen 12 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:07.200 him testify before the House Subcommittee on the abuses, the obvious abuses by the 13 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:14.079 Federal Bureau of Investigation, the politicization of that agency that continues to this very 14 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:19.599 day. And we may know why have you heard the tapes? Very few 15 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.719 people have, but my first guest has have you heard the tapes of Joe 16 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:34.879 Biden, apparently on the telephone with an Ohlergark from Ukraine. Maybe someone tied 17 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:41.159 into Bisma who was worried about FBI whistleblowers. More on that in just a 18 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:44.439 moment, a stooge report. I do not know if Saga is here or 19 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:48.680 not, and if he is not, we will still do the stooge because 20 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:55.560 ten Star needs he needs their accommodation. They paid for it even on holidays. 21 00:01:55.599 --> 00:02:00.200 I guess we have a guest stooge, and I think you'll find this 22 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:05.680 very very stooge. Like Andy Furman will be joining a cellphone from the he 23 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.759 recently had a hip replacement. I have a stooge replacement. I hope I 24 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:14.560 fare as well in my recovery as he has in his. My friend Karen 25 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.919 Cataline, the hostess spouting off and a longtime friend of mine. If you've 26 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:21.879 listened to the Nightcaps, you're familiar with Karen. She'll be with us later 27 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:25.840 on this afternoon and during Pride month. It's only fair to have Lady Maga 28 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:32.960 on Ryan Wood, who is fighting tooth and nail as a person who is 29 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:46.039 acknowledged gay, who was a performer a female impersonator performer, and who is 30 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:52.919 vehemently against the grooming of children and the indoctrination that is going on by the 31 00:02:52.960 --> 00:03:00.520 political pedophiles that are in control of some spaces and education and in our government. 32 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:06.719 Lady Ryan, Lady Maga will be here before this Cunningham Show is over. 33 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.280 Bill is off, Gary Jeff is in. Let's get started. My 34 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:13.120 first guest, as I mentioned, Peter Bronson, how are you doing, 35 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:15.400 my friend. It's good to be here in person and see you in your 36 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:21.719 wonderful tuxedo. You really look exactly and I am so relieved to find out 37 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.000 I am not the designated stooge today. No, no, no, no, 38 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:29.599 that's that's for a ball. That's thank you for that. So I'm 39 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.360 gonna bring this up and do it. I'm gonna bring this up with Smitherman 40 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:38.639 h later on this this half this hour, Pete. But I just saw 41 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:46.280 this morning that Cincinnati, in their benevolence with other people's money, have decided 42 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:53.120 to launch a pilot guaranteed minimum income program for a select number of its citizens. 43 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:58.360 That's there's the keyword. Select two point one million dollars out of the 44 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:01.159 city's budget. I mean, I'm I'm glad they could find two point one 45 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:08.199 million dollars that they just obviously do not need. Wow. And Councilman Reggie 46 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:13.120 Harris, when I ask about it, apparently this was his baby, said 47 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:16.439 we're not giving away free money. What he should have said after that was, 48 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:20.639 we're just giving away free money to people who didn't do anything to deserve 49 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:26.759 it. Out of other people's pockets. Yeah, because that's where the city's 50 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:30.120 money comes from. It comes from anybody who lives or spends money in the 51 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:33.040 City of Cincinnati, and that's where the budget comes from. A lot of 52 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:40.920 people don't seem to understand that. So it's only two point one million dollars. 53 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:47.439 We're not talking about billions like this sure to fail reparations program in California. 54 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.759 And is it just another name for reparations, because we don't know who 55 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:56.879 those one hundred select individuals will be that will be receiving these monthly stipends or 56 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:01.720 payments. But the councilman's argument for it, he said, this is an 57 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:06.519 investment. And as soon as I was telling Peter or Bronsman Bronson about this, 58 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:12.040 you said, beware, beware when somebody when somebody on the left says 59 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:15.879 we're making an investment with your money. Hold on your wallet, lock your 60 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:19.839 house, no doubt, put it in a safe, hide it under the 61 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:24.839 bed, whatever you can do. Because their investments are like com let's see 62 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:30.079 street cars and bullet trains and programs that fail and things that turn into white 63 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:35.959 elephants that just suck cash for generations. And they and the shot spotters that 64 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:41.319 tell you that, oh, somebody's just shot a gun and the police respond 65 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.959 five ten minutes later, the person who fired the gun is nowhere around. 66 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.319 But they did spend, you know, in an inordinate amount of money to 67 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:53.519 put these shot spotters up all over the city. And you know that ratchet 68 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:57.600 only goes in one direction because you can never pry or claw these things back 69 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.600 once they've been put into place. It because and entitlement, it becomes something 70 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:08.839 permanently ensconced in your city government. This is just appalling. Who gets to 71 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:13.240 select the one hundred? I'd love to see how that's done exactly, And 72 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:15.399 how do they get so lucky? Will any of them be related? Will 73 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:21.920 any of them be related to Councilman Harris, people in city government? Yeah, 74 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:29.120 all this does obviously We've talked about this when these things are introduced in 75 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:36.600 other places. You know, there are sadly some people in this city who 76 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:45.519 think that what's going on in these other Democrat controlled cities that are turning into 77 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:49.319 giant rubble and feces pits all over the nation, yeah, full of crime 78 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:55.000 Chicago. They think that their their plan, their programs are a good idea 79 00:06:55.040 --> 00:07:00.800 for Cincinnati because it'll make us be forward looking. It'll make us feel better 80 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:06.800 about ourselves, like we're on the path signaling true to true equity and social 81 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:14.240 justice, to utopia, which of course means nowhere. I've been through utopia 82 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:17.639 before in Claremont County, Yes, me too. And there is absolutely there. 83 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.040 There's nothing there where a lot of people die, I guess, And 84 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:27.519 I guess that's their aspirations for Cincinnati to become nowhere, from the great vibrant 85 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:31.879 city. It is to becoming utopia or Dystopia or nowhere. You know, 86 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:38.079 back in the late nineties and early two thousands, I thought city Council could 87 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:42.120 not get any lunear. That was just before the riots, and we had 88 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:46.399 people coming in to spout all kinds of idiocy and hate speech in the council 89 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.079 meetings, and they would stand up and they'd give them this platform. It 90 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:53.800 looked like something like The Springer Show, only ten times worse. Well, 91 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:58.519 the city council elections are are in all years, They're not in the same 92 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:05.279 in a general election year. And here's why we get this group of mindless, 93 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.240 functional idiots in city government. How do you really feel about it? 94 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:13.240 Fifteen percent of the pope population votes fifteen and nineteen percent of the population votes 95 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:18.240 for these city council seats. The nine biggest vote getters get on council, 96 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:24.040 which means that somebody like Reggie Harris. I'm just pointing him out because he 97 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:30.920 was the spokesperson for this pilot program of a minimum guaranteed income in Cincinnati. 98 00:08:31.039 --> 00:08:37.879 So probably four or five percent of the entire population that's registered to vote voted 99 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.000 for Reggie Harris. And this is what we get, and don't forget. 100 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:46.600 A huge part of the population that pays a huge part of the taxes that 101 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:50.759 support the city has no vote. Those are the people who work downtown and 102 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.399 pay the employment tax downtown. Yes, as you work here, Well, 103 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.840 we're seeing few and fear of those lately, aren't we People that have found 104 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.279 out they can work from home. Gosh, I'm not going to come down 105 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:03.960 town to pay that dank tax. And one of one of the greatest things 106 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:09.799 about moving from Mount Adams to Kinwood for me, a resident of northern Kentucky, 107 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.360 was that I no longer had to pay Cincinnati income tax out of my 108 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:22.600 check. Yes, now I had to drive a little bit more, and 109 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:24.600 with the gas prices the way they are these days, thank you, Joe 110 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:30.320 Biden energy policy. I am paying, you know, it's kind of offset. 111 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:35.679 Yeah, but just the fact that it's not being extracted coerced without a 112 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.159 vote, without a vote for me, certainly, you had no vote about 113 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.000 who's spending your taxes or what they're doing with them. It was purely truly 114 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:48.559 taxation without representation. If I was one of those people you mentioned who works 115 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.480 downtown Cincinnati and is obligated to pay that income tax, If I am someone 116 00:09:52.559 --> 00:10:00.559 whom you know buys anything in the city paying a retail sales tax or whatever 117 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.799 any of the other number of fees and taxes that local government collects, PETE, 118 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:09.600 I would be enraged by all this. Oh it's crazy. I mean, 119 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:13.440 just taking money out of people's pockets to randomly give out to people who 120 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:18.039 have done nothing to earn it. This is like, um, I don't 121 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:22.960 even think most a respectable socialists would say that's a great idea. I mean, 122 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.759 don't they usually couch their arguments. Yeah, I was telling you about 123 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:31.039 the wonderful outcome. You know that they can promise the wonderful, the wonderful 124 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.480 meme I saw where the guys holding a giant fork mettle fork right up against 125 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.639 the light socket, and his buddy is there with it, says that didn't 126 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:43.679 look like a good idea. You could get hurt. He said, no, 127 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.879 no, no, no, I'm gonna do it right this turn stick 128 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:50.080 the damn fork in the light socket. Yeah. And who's going to get 129 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:56.559 the shock? Exactly everybody in the periphery. He's going to get to show 130 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.240 all those people down the line who are paying the taxes, anything going on 131 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.120 in your world you want to highlight or talk them? Oh, I got 132 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:05.679 you here. Well, just working on having a lot of fun going out 133 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:11.600 and talking about books and really meeting some interesting people. You know. One 134 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:13.240 of the joys of writing books is when you go out and speak about them, 135 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.519 you meet all these people. Because I write local history, Yeah, 136 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.240 you meet all these people who have experienced it, who were, for example, 137 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:24.399 there at the supper club, or people who were in law enforcement or 138 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.759 knew some of the backstory or some things that I'd never known. I'm always 139 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.240 kind of saying, well, gosh, I wish I'd met you or heard 140 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.000 off you, or heard this story before I wrote the book. But it 141 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:37.519 does just it's a lot of fun. Another thing that you've been involved with 142 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.080 for years, Peter Bronson is try State honor flight. Can you give any 143 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:46.039 updates on honor flights? Well, I'm not as much involved with them anymore. 144 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.960 I know Cheryl Pop and Tom Pop are doing a great job with it, 145 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.879 and they had honor flights this year, and then I think they're going 146 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.600 to be ramping up again in the fall when it cools down. They usually 147 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:00.120 take a break during the summer when it's really hot so that they can make 148 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.559 it easy on the veterans, and there's a lot of walking involved, and 149 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:07.879 it can be pretty It's a long and strenuous day for a lot of people. 150 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:09.799 I mean, you leave in the morning, you come back at night, 151 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:13.000 like five am, and you come back and sometimes you don't get to 152 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.080 the airport by ten or eleven, so that is a long day. But 153 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:22.679 but it's it's wonderful and you've seen this firsthand obviously, when not only for 154 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.679 the veterans to see their memorials in our nation's capital, but to come back 155 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:31.080 and to be welcomed by the hundreds and sometimes more that are gathered at the 156 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:35.480 airport to welcome them. Absolutely, there's nothing like it. It just gives 157 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.720 you chills. If you have If you ever want a really positive, uplifting, 158 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:43.919 inspiring experience, go to the airport to greet the returning flight and watch 159 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:52.320 those veterans as they come marching down that gateway with the music playing and the 160 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.600 hundreds of people screaming and waving signs Grandpa, we love you, and ah. 161 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:01.600 It's just so fantastic. It is a really great moment to be an 162 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.879 American to be there. You don't find out more about Peter Bronson, his 163 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:09.440 books and some of the affiliated authors that he has involved with, go to 164 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.960 Chili Dog Press Chili Dog press dot com correct and copies of my books are 165 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:18.720 there. The following the history of the mob in Northern Kentucky and Cincinnati. 166 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.440 Right Forbidden Fruit was the first, and the Beverly Hill Supper Club Blaze, 167 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.240 and then the second one is not in our town, right, the Queen 168 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.639 City versus the King of smut talking about Larry Flint. Yes, Larry Flint 169 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.519 was the face of the mob in Cincinnati, which was a bit of a 170 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.120 surprise to me because nowhere, if you go back and research the media, 171 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.399 I thought he was the face of free speech. Oh yeah, that's what 172 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.799 you get. That's what you get it from the conventional story. But if 173 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.559 you go back and dig it, dig around a little bit, now that 174 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.519 we could go back years later. So you're saying that these tapes that you 175 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:58.200 just heard courtesy of Dan Bongino, Yes, who left Fox News Channel to 176 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:03.679 go off on his own own. Yes, so he wouldn't feel as restricted 177 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:09.320 by corporate kind of time. Somebody in from among his secret service or FBI 178 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.559 friends has leaked him some tapes. Apparently. I don't know how he got 179 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.840 him. There hasn't been enough reporting around this, but he did play two 180 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:24.080 tapes and they are pretty amazing and appalling. Well, I mean, I 181 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:28.159 mean, Dave has him. Let me Dave, if you can just real 182 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.279 quickly before we go into break and Pete has to get out of here a 183 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:35.519 plate, play cut number one and I'll save cut number two. For Steven 184 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:41.039 Friend at one oh five, the FBI whistleblower go ahead. I don't want 185 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:46.960 to get into position where he thinks he's about to buy handle a policy where 186 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.840 the financial system is going to collapse and he's going to be looked to to 187 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.240 pour more money into your crea. That's how he'll think about it before he 188 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:01.080 gets sophisticated enough to know the detail. Okay. That is Joe Biden, 189 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:07.679 right, Joe Biden speaking to a Ukrainian official who was involved in this alleged 190 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:13.879 bribery scheme in which the Biden crime family was paid more than ten million dollars 191 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:18.480 by Parisma. Initially it was five. Yeah, now we're staying closer to 192 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:24.480 ten. And the official himself and this whistleblower have said this money was laundered 193 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:31.080 through all these shell corporations, and it's beginning to look like the House committee 194 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:35.399 that's investigating this may have bank records to indicate that they can prove it. 195 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:41.720 I mean, what he's saying here really is he doesn't want Trump to get 196 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.399 involved in any way with Ukraine because he might find out what was really going 197 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:52.480 on and notice what they went after Trump for in that second impeachment it was 198 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.840 for having contact with Ukraine. Yes, absolutely, And I wonder what classified 199 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:02.480 documents Trump may have at Marlago that they wanted to get their hands on. 200 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:07.080 So that's a great question. Yeah, did that relate to the bidens in 201 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:12.360 Ukraine and the bribery? And the sad thing is we may never know. 202 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:18.919 And why were the Democrats so terrified and overreacting to his mainly innocent phone call 203 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.120 with Ukraine? Really what was that all about? Well, it looks like 204 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:27.200 this will be That's why the headline on this was about Harvey Weinstein, right, 205 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:33.480 because everybody knew about Harvey Weinstein, nobody did anything about it until finally 206 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:37.519 people started to talk. So what they're saying about Biden is that everybody knew 207 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:42.600 what he was doing, including Obama, including all the Democrats, and nobody 208 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:47.679 to doing it right under their nose. So when Trump says he starts making 209 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:51.399 deals or he's going to talk and find out who the whistleblowers are in Ukraine, 210 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:55.720 they come on glued. Peter Bronson, thank you for being the glue 211 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:57.679 that held his first half hour together up. My pleasure, Gary, Jeff, 212 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:02.279 always a pleasure to be with you, coming up afternows or what's passing 213 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:06.160 for news At twelve thirty, my friend Chris Smitherman will join us. No, 214 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:11.160 that's amazing, Dash rats. Magie's wife died because the nearest doctor was 215 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:17.039 over forty miles away. To prevent others in his village from suffering the same 216 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:21.519 faith, he worked twenty two years to hand carver road through the mountain to 217 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:27.160 cut the distance to nine miles. No, that's basing. Just as amazing 218 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:32.400 or Eddie and Rocky. They serve up the good times and help you kick 219 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:37.680 back after a long day. No, that's amazing Eddie and rock this afternoon 220 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:45.279 at three seven hundred WLW. You want to get cash out of your home's 221 00:17:45.279 --> 00:18:00.960 equity lone prompto can do it now? Yeah, the right Reverend Al GREENLW. 222 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:14.480 You know I said that exact thing to Chris Smithman. You want to 223 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.519 be with me. I'm filling in for W for Willie on Monday, and 224 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.960 he said, man, any time for you, brother, cool guy. 225 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:26.240 You know, usually when I have a chance, or have had the chance 226 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.079 in the pass to talk to Chris Smithman on the air, he's either been 227 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.680 running for something or he's been an elected political official, so kind of neat 228 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:41.799 to get his view on the sidelines sort of. And it's been way, 229 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.680 way too long. So I'm glad you agreed to be with me today, 230 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:52.039 mister Smithman, how are you, brother? I'm doing so good and U 231 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.640 I'm so honored that you asked me. No, you got a lot to 232 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.640 say, you got You've got a lot of wisdom, Billy. I appreciate 233 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.640 you. You know, I want to start by just sending happy June Teams 234 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:10.920 to you and you're listening, audience, and I want to acknowledge those hourly 235 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.839 workers out there, you know who who are you know we have a federal 236 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:18.000 holiday, you know, we still have to get our trash picked up to 237 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:26.680 people are still working out the airlines, keeping things moving, whether they're working 238 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.960 at a grocery store or hotels. There are a lot of people out there 239 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:34.279 that are working, and I thank them for keeping our country going. But 240 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:41.200 when I think about this holiday today, you know a lot of people, 241 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:45.839 you know, don't know about June Team, and they don't have an understanding 242 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:53.440 of why it's important and why it's important to all Americans. And so as 243 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:57.079 I reflect on it, my mother and father are from the South, brother, 244 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.680 and they they have celebrated June tent since I was a kid, so 245 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:07.039 this isn't new to me. My parents went to Tuskegee and met there, 246 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.519 and they're both from My father was from Birmingham, Alabama, my mother was 247 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:15.839 from Montgomery, Alabama. But to think about, you know, Abraham Lincoln 248 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:22.640 and in eighteen sixty five, where you have soldiers that are coming in and 249 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:29.559 this all in at the say, Ground zero was Galveston Bay, Texas, 250 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:34.640 where two thousand Union troops came and said, hey, the Army has announced 251 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:41.559 that the two hundred and fifty thousand enslaves black people are free. That's a 252 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:47.799 big deal. And it's not in conflict with the July fourth holiday. And 253 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:52.119 sometimes people are confused by that, and they say, listen, we can 254 00:20:52.160 --> 00:21:00.000 celebrate our great country and celebrate our independence, and we also can all celebrate 255 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:07.319 Juneteenth, the ending of this black eye in our country of an enslaved people 256 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:14.000 that were then freed by Abraham Lincoln. So this was unanimously passed by the 257 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:18.799 Senate. That means Republicans and Democrats said yes to this. Oh yeah, 258 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:23.079 Tuday holiday being June nineteenth being declared a federal holiday. That's correct. Bipartisan 259 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:29.599 voting yes, bi partisan voting, and so what's exciting about it is Republicans 260 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:34.440 and Democrats and the few independents like myself who are elected federally all said yes 261 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:38.359 to this. So I you know, I'm hoping that people over time will 262 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:45.920 embrace it and not view it as something that is divisive or something that separates 263 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:51.279 us, but something that really brings people together. Right. Well, slavery 264 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:56.240 was ending by drips and drops, I've least obviously starting with Abraham Lincoln signing 265 00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:00.559 the Emancipation Proclamation January first, eighteen sixty three, which, of course we 266 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:04.079 were a nation split so it wasn't enacted upon, and no one was actually 267 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:08.160 freed from their slavery, but it was the beginning step. Of course, 268 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.319 the blood of more than a half million Americans had a lot to do with 269 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:18.480 the end of slavery spilt in that terrible war, but you know, many 270 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:22.720 felt like a necessary step the nation had to take to eradicate the black eye. 271 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:30.920 June nineteenth would never have happened in the days of the Internet because they 272 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:34.079 would have found out at the end of the war when Lee surrendered to Grant 273 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:41.000 and Appomatics that the war was over and slavery was essentially over, and it 274 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:48.200 wasn't actually until November of eighteen sixty five before the all the slaves were freed 275 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:53.079 by the government. Not like that they should have been enslaved by any government 276 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.720 in the first place, Chris, But I understand the significance the way you 277 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:02.440 explained it, probably better than anyone has ever explained it to me before. 278 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:07.400 So I appreciate that. Yeah. And it's and it's our love, meaning 279 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.039 my love for our friendship, and you being my brother, and you're listening, 280 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:15.359 audience, you know, we're all Americans. Well, this country is 281 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:21.039 the greatest country in the world. That's why so many people are trying to 282 00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:26.240 get in our borders illegally and legally. And you know, I certainly don't 283 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:33.119 support people entering our country illegally. But the reality of it is, we 284 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.799 still are the greatest country in the world. And that is what unifies us 285 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:45.440 as Americans, that we can book and face our imperfect country and still embrace 286 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:48.839 it at the same time. You know, I think about the Tuskegee Ailment 287 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:56.599 who flew these missions some of the that time, that period of the greatest 288 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:03.319 greatest generation of all and they flew these missions knowing that they would come home 289 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:08.200 and go in the back door to a restaurant, but they understood a greater 290 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:12.559 vision that this was still the greatest country in the world. And I've been 291 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:18.240 listening to Senator Tim Scott talk about this as he runs for president, that 292 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:25.000 we have to embrace these imperfections that have happened in the past. I'm glad 293 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:27.559 this is the greatest country in the entire world. I'm glad you brought up 294 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:33.359 Senator and candidate Scott because I was going to ask you about this ahead of 295 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:38.400 time. Chris, he was on of the View, which is not something 296 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:44.680 I ever watch, and he had been attacked and that's why he went on 297 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:49.680 the show for in in essence. They were calling him an uncle Tom and 298 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:53.640 he you know, he wasn't a real black man, you know, he 299 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.799 was an exception to the rule, and he took exception with that. And 300 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:00.599 I'm glad he did. Do you feel like you said, and you just 301 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:07.200 mentioned it over and over at least three times in your opening salvo, that 302 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.880 this is the greatest This is still the greatest country in the world. What 303 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.240 about all the people, many of them happen to be black activist who say 304 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:21.279 this is a hateful, systemically racist country, and that if any black person 305 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.680 or person of color succeeds in this society, well, it's just the luck 306 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:29.880 of the dice. You know. They're they're an exception, They're they're not 307 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.440 the rule, and all of that other I think it's garbage because I think 308 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:37.759 it's an insult to anyone who does succeed in this country, regardless of the 309 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:45.319 pigmentation of their skin, uh, if they do exceptional things. And I 310 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:49.440 think it's I think it's an insult to say, well, you're black in 311 00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:53.960 this country, you can't you're brown in this country, you can't really achieve 312 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:02.880 anything without a lot of help from other people. And because it's systemically it's 313 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:07.400 still systemically racist that Mantra has pushed over and over and over again, and 314 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.359 I think it's very damaging and it's dividing the country. Chris, your thoughts. 315 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:17.839 I think what Senator Tim Scott said very well on the view is that 316 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:22.440 he remembers and note at the time that African Americans were walking down the sidewalk 317 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:27.480 and had to get off the sidewalk as they passed white Americans, and that 318 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:33.079 no longer exist, and so people are typically discussing these things in the rear 319 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.119 view mirror. And what I thought Senator Tim Scott did a beautiful job saying 320 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:42.119 all those things are true that you know, racism and sexism and all those 321 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:47.200 things you can say are still true. But the reality of it is, 322 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:51.119 we're still operating in the greatest country in the world. And that wouldn't happen 323 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.440 if we weren't the greatest country in the world. That we would elect the 324 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:59.359 first African American president, by President Barack Obama, to be the President of 325 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:03.359 the United States of America. We wouldn't have sheriffs, we wouldn't have me, 326 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.880 who was the vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati. We wouldn't have 327 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.519 all the African American police chiefs across the United States, fire chiefs, senators, 328 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:17.559 congressional members, etc. Teachers, lawyers, doctors, successful businessmen and 329 00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:23.440 entrepreneurs, And what he was saying, what he's saying here is that we 330 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:32.759 cannot bathe in that victimization and be successful. One of the things I was 331 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.480 talking to my mother about recently, and she talked about how families were strong 332 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.839 fifty sixty years ago when she was coming up. You know, our biggest 333 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.799 issue as Americans, whether you're right or Black, or your Latino or Asian, 334 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:51.000 is that our nuclear families are broken up here in a way that we 335 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:55.839 can't even imagine. And we're tied to technology like cell phones even at the 336 00:27:55.880 --> 00:28:00.920 dinner table, distracted, or we're tired, tied away from our families on 337 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.960 these stones, sending text messages when you're downstairs and upstairs to your family, 338 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:11.599 that these are the things that are impacting us in a greater way. And 339 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.920 I think President Biden had it wrong when he spoke at the historically black college 340 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.160 and university. Howard University, by the way, is where my father got 341 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:26.839 his PhD in organic chemistry and was the first African American hired Biprocker and Gamble 342 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.640 in the United States of America. With his PhD, we called him the 343 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:34.519 Jackie Robinson, the Procker and Gamble where he got his PhD. President Biden 344 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:44.279 was wrong when he said the number one issue facing that class was systemic racism 345 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:49.720 and and he's missing the point. And what he should have had the courage 346 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:55.640 to say is that we have to focus as the people as African American and 347 00:28:55.839 --> 00:29:02.799 stabilizing our nuclear families by demanding more from our pook education institutions by making sure 348 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:07.880 that we are not having children early in life. All of these things are 349 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.839 setbacks in our community, and that we should be striving always for excellence. 350 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.960 I am not a victim, and I think Senator Tim Scott was saying that. 351 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:21.640 And I think the term Uncle Tom is so horrific. When you have 352 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:27.000 someone who's talking empowerment of how do you economically move yourself forward, and someone 353 00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:33.279 says that person is no longer African American or is outside of the African American 354 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.519 community, they are wrong when they say that. And I think that's what's 355 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.759 so exceptional about the message that Senator Tim Scott has for this country. Well, 356 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:44.559 I think that the other messages that are being preached from the other side 357 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:52.640 of that discussion, Chris, are the most damaging and hurtful and hateful statements 358 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:57.319 anybody can make. That you're a victim simply because of the color of your 359 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:02.680 skin and this country still to this day, are you kidding me? I 360 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.359 mean, And and people go, well, Gary, Jeff, you wouldn't 361 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.559 know you you've lived as a white person in this country all your life. 362 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:14.279 Well, yes i have, but I've also I mean, god, it's 363 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.519 it's ubiquitous. I interact with all kinds of people who look differently than I 364 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:25.039 do all the time, and we have no issues. We have no issues. 365 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:30.039 It's it's down to the individual. And when we get into all this 366 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:38.240 group think or collectivism, that's totally anathetical to the American ideal. It's it's 367 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:44.160 the Constitution, the Bill of Rights are written for individuals, not groups. 368 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.799 And while there are groups of people who band together, there is strength in 369 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.279 numbers. I understand all of that, but that's not what makes this country 370 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:56.400 the greatest country on the face of the earth, Chris. In my opinion, 371 00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:04.960 it's the fact that it celebrates the individual and therefore can accelerate exceptionalism among 372 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:11.480 those individuals if they truly believe that they can do it. Because I'm Gary 373 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.480 Jeff, I'm not Chris Smitherman. And that's why I also hate the term 374 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:21.759 snowflakes, because snowflakes are each individually different. We as human individuals in this 375 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:27.440 country are each individually different, and one size never fits all. And these 376 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:33.119 group blanket policies meant for you know, one group or another group, I 377 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:41.160 think are divisive and it eliminates the vision, the original vision of America. 378 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:48.400 What do you think, Well, when I think of one of the greatest 379 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.279 Americans, doctor Martin Luther King, as an example that people just use now 380 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:57.880 as a punchline, but the reality of it was that he sacrificed his life, 381 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:05.279 He sacrificed his family for this country to show us a better way, 382 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:10.039 to give us hope and light. And very few people are willing to give 383 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:21.519 their life for anything, and so this notion that we can't I'm thinking of 384 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:25.240 East there's notion that I can burn the flag as an example, which I 385 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:32.599 am absolutely against, or be disrespectful to the flag, which I don't support 386 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:39.720 because what it doesn't do is I acknowledge the imperfections of the country, but 387 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:44.799 still is the greatest place in the world. And whether you're leaveing nice, 388 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:51.160 whether you're Italian, whether you're Mexican Americans and you come here, whether you're 389 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:58.039 African Americans or you're African and you come here from another country Nigeria, or 390 00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.839 whether you come from South Africa and you're here, you're working your butt off 391 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:06.920 to make it and see the exceptionalism. If I could say on this very 392 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.119 powerful radio station, here are some of the keys for those families that might 393 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:15.799 be listening. Make sure your child is doing their homework, make sure they're 394 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.559 at school on time, they're sitting in the front row, and they're not 395 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:24.519 being disrespectful to the teachers. You want to make sure that your kid understands 396 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:30.079 that you're investing in them by taking your pennies that you have, like most 397 00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:36.839 hard working Americans do, and instead of buying things in this consumer world that 398 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.319 distract our kids, invest in them. The generations before us did that. 399 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:46.720 They were putting flags figuratively in the ground because they wanted their generation to be 400 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:51.599 the generation behind them to be better than they were, and they were willing 401 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.920 to sacrifice and dig wills that they would never drink from. So we're living 402 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.759 in this country where it's not about or whether somebody is black or white. 403 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:06.480 Most of the time, it's about whether you want to work hard, whether 404 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.360 you want to handle your business, whether you want to be respectful and pop 405 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:14.679 off a yes sir and a no man and respect your grandparents. You know, 406 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.599 it's it's about whether you respect your parents, and when there are gaps 407 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.400 in your family, uncles and grandparents need to stand in that gap for those 408 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:28.639 children like they did fifty years ago. Because our families, Because our families, 409 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:32.159 the family structure in America, Gary Jeff, whether you're white or black, 410 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.400 or leban knees, or whether you're from another country, that is where 411 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:42.840 the pressures are. We are asking our police officers to be moms and dads 412 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.559 and uncles and teachers and not cops. I need cops to be cops. 413 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:51.559 I need teachers to be teachers. Right. So the problem here is that 414 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:57.679 we have people I'm talking about this social agenda to have these professions do things 415 00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.800 that they are not supposed to do. And so I just I just share 416 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:05.679 this with you as as you and I talk. Brother, this is an 417 00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:10.280 exceptional country. I admit that I had phenomenal parents. As we're coming out 418 00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:15.360 of father's dad a great father who passed away twelve years ago from pancreatic cancer. 419 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:20.360 I had a great mother who took care of me, who was in 420 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.800 the Cincinnati public school system and retired one from Procker and Gamble, one from 421 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:30.039 Cincinnati Public schools. My point is that they stayed together as a family. 422 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.800 We didn't have all the money in the world. There were six of us, 423 00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.760 But I tell you what we knew this If I went to school and 424 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.639 a teacher called and told my father that I was out of line. He 425 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.159 was never going to blame the teacher. Chris, I was dead on a 426 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:52.599 rival. Any parents think to this. Please the conversation, Thank you, 427 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.159 The conversation is just getting good, and we gotta go. I'm sorry, 428 00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.519 I'm all out of time, Chris, thank you so much. Brother, 429 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.199 couldn't jude teeth message. I didn't expect that. That's all. Thanks for 430 00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:09.960 having me. Thank you, Chris Smitherman with us Stephen Friend FBI whistleblower after 431 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:16.280 one o'clock, Get your tickets now dot com four hours are and what they're 432 00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:22.400 doing to pay it forward and give back. Listen to the good stuff on 433 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:27.679 the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm like a good woman 434 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:32.079 bag and I'm make a good woman steal. I'll make an old woman bluss 435 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.400 and I'm like a young girl sweel. I want to be up put a 436 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:45.840 babe in yoga yoga. I'm that I'm bad of the bowl, badad of 437 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:52.719 the bold, bad of the bowl. Into another hour of this Bill Cunningham 438 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.239 Show in for Willie Today, Gary Jeff Walker with you on this June teenth, 439 00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:05.280 twenty twenty three interesting perspective and insight from Chris Smithman on the holiday that 440 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.199 we're in the middle of right and said, I really had never thought about 441 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:14.119 So it's good to have some thought provoking stuff invade your brain every once in 442 00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:21.199 a while. Keeps it from completely atrophying. Now on our list, a 443 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:24.960 guy who went from a beat cop to an FBI whistle blower and paid the 444 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:29.480 price, still is paying the price, is a new book called True Blue, 445 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:32.639 My Journey from beat cop to Suspend an FBI whistle Blower. Please join 446 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:38.320 us in welcoming one Stephen friend. Good afternoon, Stephen. How are you. 447 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:44.280 I'm doing well, How are you today? Doing fantastic? We saw 448 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.679 your testimony, or at least some of us did who were paying attention and 449 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.559 on the right network that would actually show your testimony in front of the subcommittees 450 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:59.639 in Congress. Here was one of your quotes. Working as an FBI special 451 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:04.719 agent was my dream job. Nonetheless, the FBI cynically elected to close ranks 452 00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:08.440 and attack the messenger. There are laws in this country protecting whistleblowers. They're 453 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.920 on the books, and I would suggest you, and we've heard this phrase 454 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.679 a lot lately thrown around at different people. No one is above the law, 455 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:23.599 even the FBI. It should be that way, but it's seemingly this 456 00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:29.280 agency, this law enforcement agency, seemingly to many of us, has been 457 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:37.199 totally politicized and weaponized against political opponents of the establishment and one party. What 458 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:44.559 do you know about that, Stephen, I think that there's a historical president 459 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:49.079 in context for this. Within the FBI, if you look through its history, 460 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:53.159 the FBI is basically an extra constitutional agency that was it's better to ask 461 00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:58.280 for forgiveness than permission. It was begun and then Congress sort of backdated legislation 462 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.159 to establish it, and I think you can make the case that the FBI 463 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:06.920 has really never ever been about preserving the Constitution, but instead preserving the status 464 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.400 quo for whoever was in charge. So in the thirties and fourties and fifties, 465 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:16.199 communism was the opponent and the FBI did abating of those and I think 466 00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:20.360 the public at large sort of view that is a good thing, and assume 467 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.840 the FBI was the objective force for good. But then flash forward through history 468 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:28.400 and the powers of b did not like the draft Dodgers, so the FBI 469 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.760 went for draft dodgers. Martin Luther Kingdom, the civil rights movement. The 470 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.639 FBI didn't like that, so they went after him through co intel pro And 471 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.639 now we've just moved into the next transition as the war on terrorism was sort 472 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:45.840 of was done. So they military did such a good job of camping that 473 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:47.920 down. But the national security mission of the FBI had to be justified. 474 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.880 And they've gone from looking outward as sort of a century on a wall and 475 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.960 now looking inward and targeting people who they considered to be domestic terrorists, who 476 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:02.039 the President labeled as the anti government, white supremacists, and those tend to 477 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.920 be people that are opposed to his agenda. And again the FBI are preserving 478 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.840 the stas quo on behalf of the willing elite. Well, I was not 479 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:15.079 at the Capitol on January sixth, and I'm kind of glad I wasn't. 480 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.519 Now with all of the atrocities that have been perpetrated by the agency on otherwise 481 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:28.199 law abiding citizens. They obeyed the law in every respect except for opposing the 482 00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:37.280 establishment and one political party. Stephen talking to Stephen friend and I wasn't there, 483 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:43.320 But I worry now about me being a public person. I'm on the 484 00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:50.360 air I'm on media, and it's not the everyday mainstream media narrative that sometimes 485 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:52.920 you know you for example, having you on the air is not something that 486 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.000 a lot of mainstream media would do or want to do, whether it's to 487 00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:01.119 you know, promote your book or just get the news out there that this 488 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:06.800 is going on. When I saw James Comey and his handling of Hillary Clinton, 489 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:13.480 and then you know, the behind the scenes finegling to target Donald Trump 490 00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.760 in twenty sixteen, and saw all of the other elements of the FBI. 491 00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:21.880 People in the FBI, Peter Struck, Lisa Page, we know now all 492 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.719 of their weaponization to keep Donald Trump from being a president and then to keep 493 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:31.360 Donald Trump from serving effectively as president with crossfire, Hurricane, and all the 494 00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:37.000 rest. And I saw Andrew McCabe. The first thing I thought of when 495 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:42.360 talking about the weaponization and the abuse of power by the FBI was j Edgar 496 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.960 Hoover. And you mentioned historically the FBI, as an extra constitutional agency of 497 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:53.320 this government has been kind of the whatever, whatever the status quo was that 498 00:41:53.519 --> 00:42:00.480 needed protecting, they were going to protect regardless constitution be damned. What do 499 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:04.239 you know about what happened with January sixth. I know you had your clearances 500 00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:08.679 taken away the second that you and some other agents decided to testify before the 501 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:14.880 subcommittee. Well, what do you know what troubled you that you told you? 502 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.840 And I don't want to give your book away, but what troubled you 503 00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:25.840 mainly when you told a superior about what you had found and learned. Yeah, 504 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:30.800 and my whistleblowing was out of basically a twofold concern. One was that 505 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:37.000 the FBI has departed from its own rules for investigating cases. So January six 506 00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.199 happens should be one case run out of Washington, DC, with, however, 507 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.840 many subjects that need to be investigated. But instead a decision was made 508 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:49.440 very early in that process to open a separate case for every single person who 509 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.719 seemed to be a subject, and instead of on paper running them from Washington, 510 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.119 DC, where they actually were running them out of a task wars, 511 00:42:55.159 --> 00:43:00.039 they're kind of off the books, but tom paper opening the cases around the 512 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.039 country to correspond to wherever that person happened to live. Of all the fifty 513 00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.679 six feal offices around the continent, and that created a false illusion that domestic 514 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:12.559 terrorism. We now have thousands of cases spread around the country, and it's 515 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:19.480 a statistical manipulation that the FBI is using to perpetuate this narrative that domestic terrorisms 516 00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:23.480 in fact this quag nationwide problem, and it's just not true. And I 517 00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:28.360 think the January sixth is an egregious example of something. But this has been 518 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.519 going on for a long time. And it's tied to Integrated Program Management, 519 00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:37.280 which is an FBI quota system that it is not only tied to measuring its 520 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:43.440 performance, but it's also tied to its budget. And senior executives received compensation 521 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:47.079 bonuses thirty to fifty thousand dollars for hitting quotas, like a ticket for a 522 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:51.679 book for a traffic cop right, So that was that was one concern, 523 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:55.039 and then secondarily, I had a genuine concerned that there was a risk to 524 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:59.719 the public safety with the operation that was going on. In my office. 525 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:04.000 There was an individual who had been in communication with the FBI, had pledged 526 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.800 to cooperate, was represented by attorneys, and we were going to send SWAT 527 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.559 to his house. And I felt like I was the guy in the room 528 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:14.280 the day before the Waco or Ruby rig and said, why are we doing 529 00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.079 this? We should just call him on the phone, and we can always 530 00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:21.039 talk about Monday morning quarterback Waco and rub vision. I said, I'm here 531 00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.519 now it's Sunday. I'm here, and we need to address this. And 532 00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:29.159 unfortunately, senior executives and the FBI or are not willing to do that. 533 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.719 They are content to make the process of the punishment for so many of these 534 00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:36.039 people, and they're willing to put their safety and the FBI personnel safety at 535 00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.079 risk to do it. Do you believe or do you know, Stephen Friend, 536 00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:44.440 if there were FBI operatives undercover people who may have fanned the flames of 537 00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:50.519 January six for protesters who did not have those kind of intent but got drawn 538 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.159 into the capitol. I don't have firsthand knowledge, but I can tell you 539 00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:59.440 that would not It would be surprising me if there weren't there, just because 540 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.800 of the the scale of the event, and then the nature of domestic terrorism 541 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:08.880 investigations in this country were the demand from the politicians vastly helped strips the supply 542 00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.679 where they want to have that talking point. As a result of that, 543 00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:19.119 so many groups get infiltrated by either undercover or our confidential human informants. And 544 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.599 the thing about informants are They only get paid if they provide productive information. 545 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:29.360 So there's a tendency with these informants to gin up activity amongst individuals who are 546 00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.039 not pretty supposed to do it. And that's what we saw happen with the 547 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:36.159 Gretchen Whitmer case in Michigan, where the majority of people in the room where 548 00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:39.719 either informants or undercovers, and you had these guys who were not pretty supposed 549 00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:44.280 to engage in any sort of nefarious action where they're going to kidnap the governor. 550 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.519 But as a result of the plodding by those informants, they essentially attract 551 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:53.119 them. So let me ask you this now. Of course, we're learning 552 00:45:53.159 --> 00:46:00.159 that the FBI has a lot of information on the president right now and his 553 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:06.960 family and bribery. They have documents, there are tapes. In fact, 554 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:13.039 we we listened to tapes that was released through channels of Joe Biden talking under 555 00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:20.199 the phone allegedly to one of these Barisma executives. And Dave, if you 556 00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.920 have the second cut, I wanted to play this for for Steven. I 557 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.480 don't know if you've heard this before. These came via a guy named Dan 558 00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:31.800 Bongino who used to be on on Fox News Channel and his instant Graham. 559 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:39.440 He was he released these tapes, and the supposedly shows Joe Biden talking to 560 00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:45.519 a Barisma executive. It's kind of off, Mike, Um, but this 561 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:52.559 is about the FBI, particularly Dave, if you would, if it is 562 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.760 to record with him, at least I want to know that. No, 563 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.400 no, they are not. I told you that I concluded he had nothing 564 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:05.320 A nice stopped. That was it. There's no reason to talk to again. 565 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.639 Okay, thank Jack. Go to confirm that with here. So Joe 566 00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:16.480 Biden is assuring this person that the FBI is no longer looking into this. 567 00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:21.960 We've taken care of the FBI in essence, is what he said. Your 568 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:27.239 comments, if any, Stephen, I think it's just an further indication that 569 00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.199 the FBI has completely weaponized. I mean, this was this source support that 570 00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:35.239 we've heard talked about over the last couple of months, even where the informant 571 00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.039 came forward with this information that Joe Biden had been taking bribes as a vice 572 00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:42.559 president. That was during the summer of the twenty twenty election, and the 573 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.760 FBI was content to hide that information within a source reporting document, as opposed 574 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:51.039 to doing his due diligence of either an assessment, preliminary investigation, or an 575 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.599 an investigation. And the thing to remember is, and I always tried, 576 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:59.599 you got to put politics aside. He had to do the Joe Friday justifacts 577 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.639 and all the facts whatever they lead you, And that might exonerate Joe Biden. 578 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:08.519 But the fact that they're unwilling to even engage in the prerequisite investigation and 579 00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:14.840 investigative activities that are necessary just indicates to me that the FBI is in fact 580 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:19.079 beyond redemption of this point as an a political objective force for good. Real 581 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:23.360 quickly, Stephen, what has happened to your life and your career since you 582 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:29.679 came forward? While I was my security clearance was suspended, which is what 583 00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:34.840 the FBI now uses to get around the Whistler protections. And they suspended my 584 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:39.360 clearance for looking at the employee handbook improperly. They released my medical information to 585 00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:43.960 the New York Times. They try to attempt to put a gag order on 586 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.639 me. And did I beat my training records and did not be my requests 587 00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:52.760 for outside employment? And the necessity dictated the day and I had to resign 588 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:54.800 in order to accept the position, which I did with the Center for Renewing 589 00:48:54.800 --> 00:49:00.039 America, where I'm currently a fellow and advising the Select Committee and the weposation 590 00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:06.079 of the federal government. And I now have this this book that's finally been 591 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.199 published in sitting with the editors to the last few months, and luckily enough 592 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:14.760 it's pass al muster. And then I'm just grateful that disinformation gets as many 593 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.719 people as you can. The title of Stephen friends book is true Blue, 594 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:22.559 My journey from beat cop to suspend an FBI whistleblower. You remember an FBI 595 00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:28.400 swat team before all of this and living your dream, really and then you 596 00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:36.719 step forward because you didn't believe that the agency was acting in good faith and 597 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:43.960 as a constitutional law enforcement agency. And this is what you get. And 598 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.719 it's a sad story, but I'm glad that you're out there telling it. 599 00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:52.599 I'm glad that people can read about this in your book and all of the 600 00:49:52.639 --> 00:50:00.280 hell you went through just for being somebody who cares about America. Well, 601 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.480 thank you for telling Thursday and that you know it's never never the wrong time 602 00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:06.760 to do the right thing. And h and Nuts just dies for my oath, 603 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.800 and my oath will not expire until I do from this earth, and 604 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:15.480 that's my my pledge to my fall citizens, and I'm just hoped that other 605 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.119 people within the agency will will honor that oath as well. Well. God 606 00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.440 bless you and thank you for coming on with a steven friend again. True 607 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.800 Blue is the book. It's out now available everywhere. And if you care 608 00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.599 about what is supposed to be, if you care about the rule of law, 609 00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:37.360 if you care about being able to point out the wrongs that sometimes occur 610 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.719 within these huge government accreacies, you ought to pick it up. Thank you, 611 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.199 Stephen very much. Take care, Thank you very much. You mention 612 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:50.880 Andrew Furman. The fur Ball is going to join us for a makeshift stud 613 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.320 report after the next newscast, and we will get to that and in good 614 00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:59.599 order as we continue, Gary Jeff Walker and for Bill Cunningham on this Juneteenth, 615 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:06.719 on seven hundred WLW Are you a blurry eyed, pillow haired, snooze 616 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:13.559 button hitter? Are you a morning hater? Are you grouchy and unpleasant and 617 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:21.119 bringing us shut up? Luckily there's hell Mike McConnell starting your day getting everything 618 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.880 you need to know from me. Mike McConnell makes you feel good, be 619 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:30.599 a morning lover with Mike McConnell tomorrow morning at five on seven hundred W l 620 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.719 W. Everyone's favorite zisslans on her baskets are back. I frishes three balls, 621 00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:40.599 one strike and bray you with the sign comes set the pitch and it's 622 00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:45.559 whacked into the air deep right field. Well hit Tucker back at the wall 623 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:52.239 God Jonathan Indian opposite field home run and the Reds have the lead. His 624 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:58.920 second home run in his many days six to five, Reds on India's tenth 625 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:07.280 home run of the year. Oh hello, hello, Blie, I'm I'm 626 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:15.320 broadcasting. It is a stooge report, usually brought to you by tam Star. 627 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.320 But what is the line, Dave? I forgot the quality? You 628 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:27.679 can feel everybody together tam Star. We don't have a dealer. This is 629 00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.639 what happens when Sega is not here on a holiday. One thirty eight and 630 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:36.639 seven hundred LW. Garry Jeff Walker in for Bill Cunningham and the replacement stooge 631 00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:42.639 report. You know, we have to have a stooge and so I figured 632 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.639 there wouldn't be anybody better if Seg couldn't be here this afternoon with us, 633 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:52.119 wouldn't be anybody better than a guy who did seven hundred WLW sports talk for 634 00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.880 years was thrown out on his ear and he landed on his feet anyway, 635 00:52:55.920 --> 00:53:00.400 and now he's back with a vengeance. I'm talking, of course, about 636 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.960 the one and only Andy Furman, the Furball. Good afternoon, Furball. 637 00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.119 How are you? You duped me? Now on a stooge? You do 638 00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:15.119 me? You're you're you're not only not only you were a stooge, You're 639 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:22.360 a replacement stooge. Liked you had. You had a hip replacement, by 640 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.519 the way, I hope it's going well. So I have a stay tomorrow, 641 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.840 could be six weeks since the surgery. And I was swimming yesterday, 642 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.320 so thank goodness, not the limit Dot the Kurt, thank you very much 643 00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:36.719 from Christ's Hospital, swimming in your own sauce. And so you've had a 644 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.519 hip replacement, and so now I have a stooge replacement and it's you, 645 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:44.880 and I just wonder how long my rehab will be before I'm back up to 646 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.920 snuff. Well, all you gotta do is like this, cut me off 647 00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:52.719 and then that's so over. That's fine, You're in charge. I got 648 00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:58.239 a lot of things you always okay, So first off, let's talk about 649 00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:01.079 the Reds. This is supposed to be kind of like a quasi sports thing, 650 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:05.920 and then we'll move on because I know you've got brought that up, 651 00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:08.159 and it's it's it's a great vibe that the city has right now. They're 652 00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:14.119 excited. But I remember way back when he was an official for the Cincinnati 653 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.039 Reds, I believe his name was ful Castellini, and he asked a question, 654 00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:22.159 where you're gonna go. Well, that question, mister Castellini, has 655 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:29.400 been answered because they're going to Great American Ball. They are about Cincinnati. 656 00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:31.880 What a team? What a team? What a team? Oh? How 657 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:37.199 about that Marty Brennaman doing a little singer in the roads with the with the 658 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:42.840 Cowboy. But you're right, they are coming back in droves because guess what, 659 00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:45.239 the team is winning. The team is fun to watch, the team 660 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:49.880 is exciting to watch with the young players. And if you've brought about all 661 00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.880 the bubble heads of the world, you could give out dollar beer, fifty 662 00:54:52.960 --> 00:55:00.159 cent beer, pree cigarette cigarette, but lottery tickets. Nothing repla more good 663 00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:05.599 marketing than winning in sports. Come to come to March shot cigarette butt night 664 00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:10.119 at the ballpark. There you go smoke him if you got him, honey. 665 00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:15.039 So you're right, right. So here's the thing, this is what 666 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:20.039 I want to see. I want to see all these so cold baseball experts 667 00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.079 in the media saying I was wrong, I was wrong. I want to 668 00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:27.320 see that. I think we were I think we were all wrong. Anybody 669 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:31.119 anything, anybody who opined about the red season before it started or in its 670 00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:36.400 infancy this year, should say I was wrong. And I am one of 671 00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.480 those peoples that was wrong. I was totally wrong. And I'm not even 672 00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:43.760 you know, a baseball expert. I'm just an observer. I'm on the 673 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:46.880 radio, I you know, make my little observations. I was wrong. 674 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.400 You don't make your money talking sports and may you may have said it once 675 00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:53.960 or twice prior to the season, but I'm heavy hitters the third of state. 676 00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:58.480 I mean the thought to state whatever. The guys are right for the 677 00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:00.360 paper, the guys that have the webs, the guy that's helping behind the 678 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.039 microphone, the TV guys who buried this team early on. And I'm not 679 00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.840 I'm not saying that. You know, it's a bad down, Glad they're 680 00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.199 winning, but come out and say you are wrong. It happens o's though 681 00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:14.880 you were wrong. You you miss got you a miss guy that you didn't 682 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.320 believe in the team, whatever it may be, just I would appreciate that. 683 00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.920 See that that's the thing. People have such a stake in their positions, 684 00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:29.599 and they're afraid that if they admit they're human frailty, then no one 685 00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.199 will ever listen to them again, when actually the opposite is true. If 686 00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:37.280 you come out and I say, if you say I was wrong about COVID, 687 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.119 I was wrong about the fact that it didn't come from that lab in 688 00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:44.199 Wuhan, you know, come out and say, But nobody's coming out and 689 00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:49.519 say that. Nobody's coming out and saying anything about being wrong about forecasting another 690 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:53.119 one hundred lost season for the Reds except for you and me. Well, 691 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:57.840 look, I was done in a position on a local radio station like seven 692 00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.000 hundred WW to say you know what they were going to do this year. 693 00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:04.239 I took on Fox Sports Radio, which is a national thing. And honestly, 694 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.079 if if you live a Fox Sports Radio in thirteen sixty or Sirius XM 695 00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:12.000 eighty three, which I'm on, I would say eighty five percent of the 696 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.880 conversation on that station in sports it's football. Football moves the needle. It's 697 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:20.480 all NFL football, and now college football is right around the corner. Well, 698 00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.719 we got football moving the needle in this town too, with this recent 699 00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:27.840 success of the Cincinnati Bengals, a Super Bowl trip at all event and Joe 700 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:31.519 Burrow, you know the fact that they're they're looking at signing him forever to 701 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.639 be their quarterback. And I think they can work that deal out, and 702 00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.000 they should. But the Reds are relevant again and it's been a long time. 703 00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:44.159 Andy. I moved here in nineteen ninety four, not from it didn't 704 00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:46.119 really have a background with the Reds at all. I think I moved from 705 00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:50.760 Nashville, so the Braves were kind of my team, were the Cardinals. 706 00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:52.639 I lived in Saint Louis earlier on when I was a kid. I lived 707 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:57.280 in Chicago when I was very young, so I was a Cubs fan. 708 00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:01.960 So it really wasn't it wasn't read oriented at all in my baseball proclivities whatever 709 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:06.199 they were. So when I moved here to ninety four, it's like, 710 00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.960 Oh, I'm working for the home of the Reds. This is fantastic. 711 00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:13.119 Got to go to the ball game a couple of times, and this is 712 00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:16.920 pretty neat. But I never really got excited about the Reds because there wasn't 713 00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:21.320 a whole lot to get excited about in the nineties and the two thousands, 714 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:28.599 as you well know. So now there is something exciting going on with the 715 00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.840 Cincinnati Reds and I can't take my eyes or ears off of it. I 716 00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:35.760 mean, I asked my wife. I asked my wife. I asked my 717 00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.039 wife last week. I said, do you remember any time and the time 718 00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:43.039 you've known me? And she's known me initially since nineteen ninety six, so 719 00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.920 almost thirty years. I said, have you known me to ever be excited 720 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.679 about watching or listening to the Reds before now? And she goes no. 721 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:52.440 I said, I know, what were you going to say? Well, 722 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:55.559 yeah, you can go one step further. Not just the excitement for the 723 00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:59.800 Raids, the excitement for the Bengals. They're in the Super Bowl two years 724 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:04.920 assignment for FC Cincinnati game at FC Cincinnati playing away in the Eastern Division and 725 00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:07.199 MLS. So it turned around and there's a lot to root for in this 726 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.639 town. But I think it's great. I really do. Do you think 727 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:17.800 that Bob Huggins will will ever drive drunk again? After this latest that's stupid 728 00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:22.800 in Pittsburgh. You know when I when I heard that story, my heart 729 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:28.199 skipped a beat because, you know what, it's self induced. And I 730 00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:30.719 mentioned this the other day on the radio, the fact that that was self 731 00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:35.679 induced. It could have been avoided. And John Moran from the Memphis Grizzlies 732 00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:37.519 who took a toy gun and put it on Instagram and went to a strip 733 00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:42.760 joint and put it on Instagram and now we suspended twenty five games again self 734 00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:45.920 induced. You gotta think how people don't think so For the money that Bob 735 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:49.119 Huggins makes, he only could get a driver. He could get a driver 736 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.800 in a car, give by the driver a car to drive him around. 737 00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.440 But I think there's certain people that have this personal I think he's got a 738 00:59:55.480 --> 01:00:00.360 disease anyway. I think he's got some problems with alcohol though as knows out 739 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:01.519 of my mind about that, and I feel for him, I really do. 740 01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:06.519 But I think that anybody who was in that position has some sort of 741 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.239 an egg and I think he has one of those do you know, Hawaiian 742 01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:12.800 ego. But the problem was he was in Pittsburgh and when the cops stopped 743 01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.000 him, costs, where are you he's a Columbus. It's a pity. 744 01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:19.880 I read the report A beer cans of beer finals in that car. I 745 01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:23.599 mean, come on the way, he'll remembered for that any anything else that 746 01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:28.400 he has done good in his career. Forget about Forget about the final four 747 01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.320 trip what you see forget about all the twenty win seasons there. Forget about 748 01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:38.679 home winning coach, coming home, coming home to his his alma mater at 749 01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:43.159 West Virginia, and being universally loved there. Forget about all of that. 750 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.559 All we know is Bob Huggins likes to drink and drive, and he's not 751 01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:51.360 very good at his job. Not very good. He went down in flames, 752 01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:54.119 right, His career went down in flames. And and that's how that's 753 01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:58.000 that's his You know what, you know you were we opened this up, 754 01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:02.519 Andy, We talked about opening up with you know, these baseball aficionados and 755 01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:07.320 experts admitting they were wrong. I gotta say, I'm gonna admit right here 756 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.800 and now on the radio that I was wrong. Nancy Zimfer was right. 757 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.199 What do you think about that? Now? You exactly know you're exactly right. 758 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:21.360 I was. I was calling her that horrid woman on the air, 759 01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:25.239 I called Nancy Zimfer, that horrid woman for the persecution of Bob Huggins that 760 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:30.119 you see. But you know what I'm I'm saying, I'm rethinking my position 761 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:34.000 now. Andy. You know what though that it was a very tough call 762 01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.960 on her pop with the popularity that he had in this town. And you're 763 01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.599 right, it was a hell of a call and a gutsy calling up. 764 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:44.679 But the same situation now in West Virginia. He's a favorite son, he 765 01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:47.280 played basketball there and obviously he probably could have run for governor in the state 766 01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:51.320 of West Virginia. But it's a tough call. And C. Gordon Ge, 767 01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.639 the president of the University of West Virginia. Uh, the situation, 768 01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:59.440 I mean, he had a little go and well I'm looking now right now 769 01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:02.000 they said he resigned, and I gotta believe he was some attorneys involved in 770 01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:05.840 this situation where Bob said, look, I don't want to be fired. 771 01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:08.400 You could you could get rid of me with the with the cause of full 772 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.159 cause he won't get any money. I'm sure he's not gonna get paid, 773 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:15.280 but he'll be looked at it that he's resigned rather than being fired. But 774 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:20.679 I'm sure between the lines of the return the attorney's paperwork, he was fired 775 01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:25.440 and let go for cause what does he do now? You know, constly 776 01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:29.639 I would think that he's got so many friends in the personal next couple of 777 01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:31.280 months, he couldn't do nothing. But I think when the NBA season starts, 778 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:35.480 I wouldn't be surprised if he's hired by an NBA team. I really 779 01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:37.800 will. I know, I want to. I want to see him. 780 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:39.320 I want to see him get help if he needs help. I want to 781 01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:45.039 see him back. I don't believe in canceling anybody for good ever, But 782 01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:49.599 yeah, I mean, what's going on here, Huh? He does need 783 01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.119 to help. He really needs to to dry out. I hate to say 784 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.480 it, but he's really just you know, I did a show with him 785 01:02:55.199 --> 01:03:00.440 years ago and he'd come into the studio and one ninety him in there with 786 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.039 a bottle of wine, red wine, and I said, what's that for? 787 01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:05.320 As well? You know I had that heart attack, and you know, 788 01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.119 doctor said, the wine's good for it. Let me come on, 789 01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.480 Really, you're bringing a bottle of wine into a radio show. I mean 790 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.679 there was back then, there was there was signs of that back then. 791 01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:19.440 Andy I used to have a handle of Jack Daniels in the studio on my 792 01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:22.480 Friday radio show when I was in Nashville, but that wasn't many years ago. 793 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:27.039 I think I'd like I think i'd like a drink right now. After 794 01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.119 talking with you, you had some thoughts on you had some thoughts on juneteenths 795 01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:32.320 you want to to Uh, yeah, I wanted to wish you a happy 796 01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:37.199 shooting teeth And honestly, you know, I got the thoughts process rolling after 797 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.559 our Chris Smithman with the one I thought he was tremendous. I do have 798 01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:43.760 a question. Maybe maybe it's all feet, maybe it's not not called for. 799 01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:47.440 But look, I have no problem honoring and making it a national holiday. 800 01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:51.239 Juneteenth's no problem about that either. But I don't think you could. 801 01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:53.400 I don't think you could have it both ways. When you want to remember 802 01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:59.119 what happened back then and then you want to cancel out what happened back then, 803 01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:00.360 and what do I mean by that? You can't get rid of history. 804 01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:04.559 And all over this great country of ours, they've had these statues taken 805 01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:09.400 away, destroyed, statues of like Robberty League. I'm not a great state 806 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:12.719 of Robberty Lee, but this is they changed their name. They changed the 807 01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:16.639 name of Fort Bragg in North Caroica because he was a Confederate general. It's 808 01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:21.159 been for years, centuries, right, Am I aunt to something here? 809 01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:25.559 You can't have it both ways, yes, yes, on a jutee. 810 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:30.400 But honestly, you have to remember why you're honoring jueteem right, sure, 811 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:34.079 I mean you can't. This is what isis and these other terrorist organizations do. 812 01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:39.480 They come into a territory and because of their new reality, their new 813 01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:43.679 truth, their new push, their new religion, whatever their new cult, 814 01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.280 they've got to get rid of all the endtiquities and all the statues that existed 815 01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:54.199 before. But like like nothing existed before isis. And that's how these counselors 816 01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:58.360 are the people who want to cancel the fact that there ever was a Confederacy, 817 01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:02.679 that there ever was a General Lee, or that Thomas Jefferson should have 818 01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:06.599 name his name take because he owned slaves. All of that needs to be 819 01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:13.920 preserved and remembered in opportunity for history's sake, for for history, not only 820 01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:17.960 for history's sake, but for the future's sake, because if you don't remember 821 01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:23.320 history, what happens Andy, it'll happen again. You're doing again. That's 822 01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:27.360 right, you're exactly right. Right, Well, no, you're exactly right. 823 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.719 I'm really honestly. Sometimes sometimes we argue, but now we're on the 824 01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:34.800 same page. And I thought I was going up a hornet's nest on the 825 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:38.559 wrong tree. But again, you can't have it both ways. You can't 826 01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:42.000 honor a holiday for one reason and the same token you gonna get rid of 827 01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:45.760 the and ignore why, why the holiday? Why you're about in the first 828 01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:49.159 place? That's right, right? So what else you got? What else 829 01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.679 you got in your holster before we go? Well, you know why. 830 01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:54.880 You're pretty powerful, and I'll tell you why. You know, I do 831 01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:59.519 some work at the point, I'm in Covington, right, So some lady 832 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.280 lately passed me in the hallway today and says, hey, they're gonna be 833 01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:05.239 on the radio today. I said, oh yeah, I sunded up being 834 01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:08.760 with Gary Chiff. Yeah, that's what he said. They got They got 835 01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:12.280 seven hundred w W one and the hallways at the point, I can't believe 836 01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.119 it, really, Well, have you have you seen the ratings lately? 837 01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:18.159 Seven hundred LW is on everywhere, and well, you know what, it's 838 01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:24.039 kind of like seven hundred ww with everybody else seven on the field. There's 839 01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:28.400 a horse race. There's nothing else on. Come on, there's no competition. 840 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:30.559 I mean, look, I'm there. I was up in the lum 841 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:32.360 and maybe they should have like a oh, you know, the ridd have 842 01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:35.079 Old Timers Day, they bring the old guys back, they play a two 843 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.599 winning game or whatever. Yankees did it for years. I used to go 844 01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:42.800 as a kid. Maybe they said they should have that a seven hundred WWII 845 01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:45.880 is Chris collins Worth back? Why do you think I invited you on today? 846 01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.400 This is your old timers game. No, I'm talking about like you 847 01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:53.039 know, Jim Scott, bring him back, Bob Trumpy, Chris collins World, 848 01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:55.840 Gary Burbank, bring him off back Old Times Day. No, No, 849 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.960 you've had your shot. Now you're done. We've we've honored your contribution. 850 01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:05.880 And in the Pashton goodbye bye erball. Andy Furman on the Stood Report, 851 01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:13.800 Oh geez, I didn't argue with him enough. That's the best part. 852 01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:15.880 Oh well, maybe on a nightcap soon to come during the All Star 853 01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.920 break coming up on one fifty three, Gary Jeff and for Willie on seven 854 01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:27.840 hundred wl W. Oh that's right. I don't have We don't have sag 855 01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:30.360 here with the immortal words of the Stude Report, but I believe Dave has 856 01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:34.119 something for us in the immortal words of the stud Report. We bid you 857 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:38.679 a duo. We've known itch for a long time. She was seventeen, 858 01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:45.440 I was forty. She was seventeen. I was forty. I think they 859 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:56.079 called that a crime. Joe, seven hundred w l W. No, 860 01:07:56.559 --> 01:08:02.000 that's amazing. Violet Jessif was award the RMS Olympic when it collided with another 861 01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:06.360 ship. Two years later, she was aboard the Titanic. After that, 862 01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:11.719 she was on the Britannic when it hit a German mind and sang, and 863 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:17.199 she lived to tell the tales of all three shipwrecks. No, that's baby. 864 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:23.079 Speaking of amazing, check out Eddie and Rocky. They have the fun 865 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:29.319 times you're looking for after a long day. No that bay Eddie and rock 866 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:34.560 This afternoon at seven hundred WLW from W two thirty three BG, Cincinnati, 867 01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:39.800 just after what's passing for News. In a few minutes, we'll be talking 868 01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:44.159 with someone deep in the heart of Texas. One of my favorite guests and 869 01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:47.199 a good friend, Karen Cataline, joins us from the lone Star stated just 870 01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:55.800 a view, Wong winds Blue, Chris Rayah and the song text Eaton Bluescu 871 01:08:56.520 --> 01:09:02.960 also one of US Gary Jaffinn for Bill Cunning and the Goos Forever. On 872 01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:12.800 a Monday, June nineteenth, June Team seven hundred WLW thinking about it lately, 873 01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:18.319 Been watching some TV. Been looking all around me when water has come 874 01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:29.560 to me. Been talking to our neighbor and he agrees with me. It's 875 01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:40.079 all gone crazy. Crazy News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred wl J, 876 01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:45.159 Cincinnati High Stakes meetings over the weekend with more to come with the two 877 01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:50.079 o'clock report, I'm Jack Crumbley breaking now. The US and China are agreeing 878 01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:55.800 to try to stabilize their relationship. Both the United States and China have an 879 01:09:55.800 --> 01:10:00.159 obligation to manage this relationship responsibly. Doing so is the best interests of the 880 01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:04.319 United States, of China, indeed of the world. That is. US 881 01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:09.239 Secretary of State Anthony B. Lincoln, speaking two reporters after his meeting with 882 01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:15.079 Chinese President Shijinping in Beijing, Blincoln said that he expects further visits to China 883 01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.039 by senior US leaders in the coming weeks. China rejected a US offer to 884 01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:23.199 set up a direct military line of communication that is a priority goal for the 885 01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:27.680 Biden administration. Blincoln's trip to China is the first buy a US Secretary of 886 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:32.479 State since twenty eighteen. Take a look now, rainy afternoon, the latest 887 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:36.000 traffic and weather together. I'm the UC Health Traffic Center. U see healths 888 01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:42.680 Proton Therapy Center targets cancerous tumors with submillimeter precision called five one three, five 889 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.800 eight four beam to learn more. That's five eight four b EAM. Multiple 890 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:50.239 accidents in your way seventy one north before Montgomery, seventy five north after Mitchell 891 01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:54.920 Avenue. It's got the right lane block five sixty two east before Marburg Avenue. 892 01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:58.520 It's got the right lane block seventy one north before Norwood lateral in to 893 01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:00.600 seventy five east from Taylor Old Road. That's on the entrance ramp. I'm 894 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:04.399 John Crawford on news radio seven hundred WW two. Have one other backup to 895 01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:09.960 pass on your way? Northbound seventy five in Florence is very backed up from 896 01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.600 well before the two seventy five interchange in Erlanger, and you're going to be 897 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:17.680 slow into Erlanger if you're coming north on seventy five this afternoon, have some 898 01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:21.960 patients. It's a little slippery out there now. The latest forecast from the 899 01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:29.159 Advanced Industry Weather Center Advanced Dentistry. It's true a no Fear Dentist experience is 900 01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:32.199 possible. Learn more at No Fear Dentist dot Com. Off and on. 901 01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:35.880 Showers and downpours with a few thunderstorms this afternoon as tempters stay in the low 902 01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:39.880 to mid seventies. Tonight, we dry out briefly, but not gonna last 903 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:43.680 long as rain chances move back in For your Tuesday, tempters only top out 904 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:45.319 in the mid to upper seventies. From your Severe Weather station, I'm nine 905 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:50.560 first Morning Meteorologist Cameron Harden on NewsRadio seven hundred WLW Radar. Show's widespread rain 906 01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:53.800 in the Tri State. Some of the heaviest rain right now falling on the 907 01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:57.920 west side around Cleaves, Addiston and Cheviot. It is sixty eight degrees. 908 01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:02.119 News is a service of RNL Kerry Years Ukrate Custom Shipping Solutions. But they 909 01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:05.880 say they have made an arrest in the killing of Douglas Palmer in Norwood last 910 01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:10.720 month. Brandon Dodson is charged with killing the homeless man. He was taken 911 01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:14.760 into custody in Butler County. Other news out of Norwood today, a suspect 912 01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:18.520 has been charged with child enticements. The prosecutor says Lisa Nacreley tried to lure 913 01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:24.840 a small boy away from his Norwood home Saturday afternoon. She allegedly identified herself 914 01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:29.119 as a worker with Child Protective Services. A front door video shows that boy 915 01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:31.359 talking with her, then going in to get his mother and the woman waiting 916 01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:35.560 outside. Nor Would Police haven't said how the ruse broke down. M'creley was 917 01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:40.680 arrested and booked this morning. Her arrangement is tomorrow in Hamilton County. I'm 918 01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:45.640 Sandy Collins News Radio seven hundred WLW. A federal judge is ordering former President 919 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:49.600 Trump not to disclose evidence related to his classified documents case. The order blocks 920 01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:55.600 Trump from releasing information from the case with reporters or on social media. The 921 01:12:55.680 --> 01:13:00.239 order also allows Trump to see evidence collected, including classified documents, but only 922 01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:02.520 in the presence of his attorneys. Donald Trump was indicted earlier this month on 923 01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:09.119 thirty seven federal felony counts related to his handling of classified material, including willful 924 01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:15.239 retention of national defense information and conspiracy to obstruct all I made you. I'll 925 01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:20.720 bring up the house of all baby be buying. I want to be up 926 01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:30.359 with the baby Yo. I'm that, I'm bad of the bold Bahad, 927 01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:38.600 of the bold Ad. I'm this Juneteenth Gary Jeff Walker, entrusted with keeping 928 01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:47.159 this ship ship shape, the mighty Goliaths of the Nation Station the Great Americans 929 01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:54.640 Show, Bill Cunningham truly honored and humbold to be back again seven W l 930 01:13:54.840 --> 01:14:00.479 W and Gary Jeff Infra Willie Today. When I was lining this thing up 931 01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:02.600 last week, I knew I was going to be in for Bill. I 932 01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:06.640 was lining the show up. One of the people I knew I had to 933 01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:12.920 have on is my next guest because she is continually one of the bright spots 934 01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:17.479 in my radio life. Whenever she is available, I said, yeah, 935 01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:23.159 gotta have KK with me. KK is Karen Cataline, the host of Spouting 936 01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:27.600 Off. We've been guests on each other's show. It's a totally insensuous and 937 01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:32.000 in sensuous relationship and we're not even related. And she's back again for a 938 01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:36.680 little chat this half hour. KK. How are you? Yeah, we 939 01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:41.720 love each other, yeah, and we have spouses, but we love each 940 01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:45.119 other anyway. Yeah, absolutely, it's so great to have you on this 941 01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:47.880 afternoon. How are you? It's a pleasure and an honor, sir. 942 01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:54.239 I'm off today, so I just got you on my schedule. Then you're 943 01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:59.479 how about this? You're back on with me right now, so it's time 944 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:02.439 to be on. Uh. So KK, if I can call you that 945 01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:06.800 I usually do when I'm sorry about that's come my little pet name. It's 946 01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:12.439 okay as long as you don't add another K. It's no doubt, especially 947 01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:15.720 on juneteent all right. Yeah, so it is Juneteenth, And we had 948 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:23.479 some very thoughtful comments on the significance of Juneteenth from Chris Smitherman, who was 949 01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:29.680 a former vice mayor here in Cincinnati. He does happen to be brown skin 950 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:33.399 black, an African American, if you want to call someone that, uh, 951 01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:40.359 And he had some very thought provoking things that I maybe had not thought 952 01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:44.720 in depth about about this particular day and why it's significant. And I agreed 953 01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:49.000 with him. But then I had this from my friend d Gray Gary Jeff 954 01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:56.960 Walker at seven LW dot com his message for the Cincinnati City Manager, claiming 955 01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.720 that Juneteenth is a black holiday. He said, I wish someone would tell 956 01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:04.680 the Cincinnati City manager it's not a black holiday. My great great grandfather fought 957 01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:09.840 in the Indiana thirty six for three years, including both days at Shiloh and 958 01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:13.920 about sixteen other entanglements leading up to the Seas of Atlanta, while under the 959 01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:18.199 command of Grant and Sherman. Shouldn't I be honored? No, I didn't 960 01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:23.399 fight those battles. He did same for the descendants of slaves, slave owners, 961 01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:26.720 criminals, and victims. I should call you sometime and tell you what 962 01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:31.039 My cousin who was the FBI counter terrorism agent and was a senior agent in 963 01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:34.439 the Hoover Building at the end of his career, he retired ten years ago 964 01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:38.840 and told me there are criminals on the top floor of the Hoover Building. 965 01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:42.319 And that was before Trump and all this crap. So, anyway, a 966 01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:45.800 couple of things to start us off with your thoughts on Juneteenth, if you 967 01:16:45.880 --> 01:17:00.119 have any Well, I don't have a problem with Juneteenth or all of that. 968 01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.439 What I have a problem with, and that still bothers me, is 969 01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:12.720 the profound tendency to divide us rather than unite us. Now calling it uniting 970 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:17.039 us as always a bit of a platitude, because what exactly does that mean? 971 01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:25.800 What I don't hear, what I never hear anymore in the propaganda media 972 01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:32.399 or anywhere else. Are even the most feeble attempts to unite us, to 973 01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:40.359 help us understand each other better. It bothers me profoundly that under the heading 974 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:50.359 of tolerance and diversity has been the greatest license it seems to hate and to 975 01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:58.039 demean others by virtue of whatever group they belong to. It's almost an offense 976 01:17:58.319 --> 01:18:06.119 in some circles to say that we want or we aspire to a colorblind society. 977 01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:11.760 I think that's been misunderstood, but to be offended at the notion, 978 01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:16.600 and I hate to quote this, but I shall that we should be judged 979 01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:21.239 by the content of our character rather than the color of our skin. Indeed, 980 01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:29.399 is now is now somehow considered an insult. That doesn't mean we shouldn't 981 01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:34.159 have a holiday for the freeing of slaves in eighteen sixty five. But if 982 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:40.159 it is an excuse to hate people of a different color, or if it's 983 01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:45.720 an excuse to demand reparations of people who've never been slaves, never owned slaves, 984 01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:51.319 a state that never had slaves, then it's being misused. So I 985 01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:59.680 just wonder where where our holidays that really do unite us under one flag, 986 01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:05.239 one, you know, one nation, under God, indivisible. Those holidays 987 01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:11.520 are being demeaned and demolished before a very saw headline. I'm sorry, you 988 01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:16.319 got me going. I saw a headline on a typical leftist site that said, 989 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:23.920 isn't June tenth Juneteenth a better symbol of freedom than the fourth of July? 990 01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:28.920 And I don't mind telling you, I was deeply incensed by that. 991 01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:34.680 Well, because all of this is being used as a bludgeon against traditional America, 992 01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:43.079 and traditional America ain't racist, you know, America, and Americans of 993 01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:47.920 all races and creeds have been maligned, have been called the whole country has 994 01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:55.560 been called systemically racist. And these are all excuses to stir up Hayden division 995 01:19:56.119 --> 01:20:00.279 instead of the other way around. So we're gonna have a holiday, Yeah, 996 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:03.039 go ahead, you finish your yours comment. If we're gonna have a 997 01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:08.840 holiday, Yeah, if we're gonna have a holiday that celebrates this, then 998 01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:16.159 the other thing and I and now it's a LGBT trans month, which is 999 01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:24.039 a whole other story. Then uh, let's have holidays in which people remember 1000 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:29.880 the founding of this country. Mum, that's all I'm gonna say. I 1001 01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:41.920 think this is a ruse to to tear down traditional America and Americans in the 1002 01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:47.760 name of of tolerance when it's an oxymorn. This was an important point that 1003 01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:50.359 my friend Chris Mitherman, who I mentioned to you at the top of this 1004 01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:57.560 conversation Karen made in his call. He said, this does not this is 1005 01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:02.520 not overshadow July fourth because, and he kept on saying throughout his recitation of 1006 01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:08.039 his feelings about Juneteenth, this is a great country. We are in a 1007 01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:13.800 great country. And he denied the systemic racism that is claimed by people who 1008 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:15.119 want to He said, I am not a victim. I've never been a 1009 01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:19.119 victim, and I'm not a victim now. So he was very very staunch 1010 01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:24.920 about what you're just saying in reinforcing this, and it came from a total 1011 01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:30.159 came from a totally different place. July fourth is my favorite holiday on the 1012 01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:36.920 calendar. Thanksgiving follows close behind, but July fourth is my favorite holiday because 1013 01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:42.800 it's truly an American holiday. It is a holiday that should unite us. 1014 01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:47.880 It's a holiday that our founders, including President Adam's calling for this celebration of 1015 01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:55.960 American independence that has now lasted two hundred and fifty years. Almost two hundred 1016 01:21:55.960 --> 01:22:00.159 and fifty years, Karen, we've been celebrating the fourth of July in this 1017 01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:03.279 country and will continue to do so and should, And you're right, nothing 1018 01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:09.199 can take away the glory that is America's Independence Day, nor should it. 1019 01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:15.079 I'm with you, well, and in the in the attempt to demean others, 1020 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:20.239 we can take the holiday of either June teams fourth of July and talk 1021 01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:26.319 about how all Americans, no matter what their color, race, or creed, 1022 01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:34.079 yearn for freedom and we can celebrate that as a moral imperative. As 1023 01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:39.159 you know, you know, I put the Judeo and Judeo Christians and my 1024 01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:45.840 people, the Jews, their story. Our story of the Exodus stood as 1025 01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:51.479 a symbol for George Washington and the founders to recall that in the Bible in 1026 01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:57.439 order to that it was an inspiration to George Washington, the story of the 1027 01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:02.079 Exodus, yes, you know, the the marching or the exodus to freedom, 1028 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:09.079 and that is a universal experience. It shouldn't be used to be even 1029 01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:16.000 to be told that Juneteenth is a black holiday defeats the entire purpose of celebrating 1030 01:23:16.119 --> 01:23:24.560 liberty, which in this country we are quickly losing if we allow these bureaucrats 1031 01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:29.439 and politicians and others with an axe to grind to divine us in that way. 1032 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:32.920 You reference Pride Month, and I have as my last guest this afternoon, 1033 01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:38.720 at the bottom of the hour, just a truly incredible individual named Ryan 1034 01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:45.199 Would also known as Lady Maggie. I gave him to you. I don't 1035 01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:48.640 mind taking credit. Yes, he is great, isn't he fantastic? So 1036 01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:54.800 we'll be covering a lot of that. Tony blinkoln Tony Blinkin just got back 1037 01:23:54.840 --> 01:24:00.239 from China and has claimed we've made great progress, an amazing first step in 1038 01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:03.359 relations with China. I wonder if he decided to tell Gee that he was 1039 01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:06.680 giving the rest of the country to him by twenty twenty four so you don't 1040 01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:13.079 have to worry about that pesky presidential election. Well then that's a great pros. 1041 01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:17.479 Yeah. The headline that I saw on one of my favorite sites said 1042 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:23.760 that he declared that we no longer support Taiwan in their quest for liberty. 1043 01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:30.159 Did you ever think or live quote we do not support Taiwan independence? Did 1044 01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:34.840 you ever think you'd live to see a day when the United States of America, 1045 01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:43.520 country built on liberty, would support a communist country over the desire of 1046 01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:47.640 a country to remain free. That's where we're at in this country. That's 1047 01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:54.800 why the divisiveness we spoke about earlier is so deadly beas being used politically. 1048 01:24:55.039 --> 01:25:00.840 Tony Blankin and Joe Biden might as well be Neville Chamberlain capitul relating to Hitler. 1049 01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:06.560 When you capitulate to communist China and Gie the dictator for life. I 1050 01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:10.399 hate to say it, but I would use him in a more strong word, 1051 01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:16.279 collude, not capitulate. Kalude. They're definitely holding hands. Yes, 1052 01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:23.600 well, we know that the Biden family was enriched by China and Ukraine. 1053 01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:30.399 And that's not just you know, rolling over and capitulating. That's that's engaging 1054 01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:36.840 with um, actually acting in concert with Yes. Yeah, it's a very 1055 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:42.760 disturbing. And yet you know, we have to keep you know, encouraging 1056 01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:47.199 our listeners and others to tell the truth and to stop being shy about saying, 1057 01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:53.159 for example, to go back to the beginning, America is not a 1058 01:25:53.399 --> 01:26:02.199 racist country, and it is a moral smear of three hundred plus million people 1059 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:08.439 to call it one and we have to stand up and say that unapologetically, 1060 01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:14.279 you know well, and furthermore, Karen's it's a smear on them. Since 1061 01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:18.239 we're talking about history, it's a smear on the memory of the half million 1062 01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:25.079 plus Americans who lost their lives to sort it out in the first place in 1063 01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:28.199 the Civil War. I was about to such a good point, and I 1064 01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:31.960 was about to say that. And we keep seeing people with a political acts 1065 01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:39.960 to grind, to diminish and demean those people who gave their lives to abolish 1066 01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:46.479 slavery. Which was it just you know, we got to know our history 1067 01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:49.600 in order to defend it. That's for sure. I could do a better 1068 01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:55.520 job of it as well, because I didn't have the greatest historical education, 1069 01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:59.199 if you will. But it behooves all of us since we're on the front 1070 01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:02.239 lines of this fight. We need to know our history. We need to 1071 01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:06.000 be able to know enough of it to and what the country stands for in 1072 01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:11.520 order to stand up for it. And I think that's one of our one 1073 01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:15.199 of our purposes right now. You have a gift coming from me. You 1074 01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:19.640 have a gift come yes, because you use the word of the day behooves. 1075 01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:24.880 It was. It was a secret magical word. And you have you 1076 01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:29.079 used that? No? No, I I wrote this down. I wrote 1077 01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:31.199 this down on a piece of paper. The word of the day is behooves. 1078 01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.239 Let's see if I can get anybody to say it. And you just 1079 01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:40.119 did. Oh my god, I'm impressed. You know. No, there 1080 01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:43.920 should be confetti falling in front of you right now, and lights and bell 1081 01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:48.359 yes, okay, it is dinging and the duck comes down from the ceiling. 1082 01:27:51.479 --> 01:27:56.880 It's gradow marks. You bet your life. Not that tale imitation with 1083 01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:00.760 Jay Leno. That's awful. By the way. Anyway, I'm getting off 1084 01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:02.680 the track here. Karen Cattle and our guest on The Bill Cunningham Show with 1085 01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:09.479 Gary jeff on SEVENLW and KK. Last thing in our last three minutes, 1086 01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:17.319 I was wondering quite at what were the classified documents that were taken from Mara 1087 01:28:17.479 --> 01:28:21.920 Lago that they really want. I wish we could see what they actually talk 1088 01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:28.439 about in national defense. I wonder how many of those classified documents have something 1089 01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:34.640 to do with Joe Biden's involvement in Ukraine and the bribery. Do you think 1090 01:28:34.720 --> 01:28:39.800 do you think that some of those classified documents have anything to do with that, 1091 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:43.920 and that's why they had to get them back with a raid and prosecuting 1092 01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:47.199 Donald Trump, Ford and all the rest. H Gary, Jeff Walker. 1093 01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:53.600 I'm going to say, and the most profound thing I have said in our 1094 01:28:53.680 --> 01:29:02.359 conversation today, I have no idea and the Inn't it convenient that they classify 1095 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:05.960 the documents we're not allowed to see, so we're not allowed to see what 1096 01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:12.359 they soul? I mean, you know, it's just wonderful. It's like 1097 01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:15.199 sticking a mic in someone's face and saying, when did you stop beating your 1098 01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:19.399 wife? The same kind of thing. You don't get to know the evidence 1099 01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:28.279 because it's classified. But the evidence is what justifies your rating a duly elected 1100 01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:32.399 president's home, but we don't get to know because it's classified. All I 1101 01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:40.000 feel like saying is Dana Carvey as the church lady, how convening? Good? 1102 01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:44.800 Callback? I love that. I love it. So what are you? 1103 01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:47.640 What are you doing if anything? I know you said you're off work 1104 01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:51.920 today. What are you doing, if anything, to celebrate the rest of 1105 01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:56.880 juneteenths What do you and Scott have planned? Is? Are there big plans 1106 01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:03.159 for dinner tonight? What's happening well? I haven't paid a lot of attention 1107 01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:08.640 to junior teams, and believe it or not, in a free country, 1108 01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:11.680 that is my right. Yeah. Well, okay, well what are your 1109 01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:14.399 plans? What are your plan? Person? What are your plans for the 1110 01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:19.199 rest of Monday? How about that? I'm gonna slob and watch a movie 1111 01:30:19.359 --> 01:30:24.720 now. I I'm good with people, like I said, who are celebrating 1112 01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:28.720 as long as they are law abiding citizens and they don't riot in the streets. 1113 01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:35.880 But I I am. I don't like changing holidays and making like a 1114 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:41.680 month dedicated to nine year olds having mass ectomies. I don't like that. 1115 01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:47.000 I would. I would much prefer uh that people start remembering what the fourth 1116 01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:55.239 of July an Independence Day means. But I I at the risk of being 1117 01:30:55.319 --> 01:31:00.079 repetitive, I think these so called new holidays are being used as replacements for 1118 01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:04.880 the old in order to use it as an excuse to demean our founders. 1119 01:31:05.239 --> 01:31:10.119 Our founders, Oh they were, Oh they're just old white men. No, 1120 01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:16.680 they built us a country founded on liberty. So I'm looking forward to 1121 01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:21.680 celebrating Independence Day every day, and I hope others will too. And Karen, 1122 01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:27.159 you're absolutely right about that. An Independence Day just as not the independence 1123 01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:30.479 of the country from the British tyranny, or it's the independence, it's the 1124 01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:35.239 independence of the individual. Each and every one of us should be celebrating that 1125 01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:40.800 and should be able to sell the biggest point of all, and that's what 1126 01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:46.479 we're at the risk of losing, is collectivism versus individualism. And we must 1127 01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:50.680 hold on to that because that's where brilliance comes from, all of our unique 1128 01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:58.319 selves. Karen Cataline dot com checker out, Karen Cataline. That's kat ali 1129 01:31:58.640 --> 01:32:01.359 ne dot com. I will talk to you and we will spout off again 1130 01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:06.079 soon. KK. My pleasure, thank you, Oh you bet a breaking 1131 01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:14.760 back. Seven lw welcome hopefully our friend, Lady Maga Usa. His name 1132 01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:21.000 is Ryan Wood. Ryan Would is an admittedly gay man. He's also a 1133 01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:25.640 religious man. He's a Christian, And you wonder, how does that, 1134 01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:29.000 how does that? How does he balance that? Well, we can we 1135 01:32:29.079 --> 01:32:32.000 can ask him about that. I have in the past some very simple answers. 1136 01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:35.800 You know, I'm not a perfect human being. I'm a sinner, 1137 01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:41.960 and I understand what my sin is. But he thinks that the greatest sin 1138 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:47.079 is being perpetrated on our kids in this country right now, by people who 1139 01:32:47.520 --> 01:33:00.560 claim to be or take a refuge under the lgbt QIA WTF umbrella that says 1140 01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:05.079 that a child as young as two or three knows that they've been born in 1141 01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:11.600 the wrong body. How many kids do you remember when you were growing up 1142 01:33:12.920 --> 01:33:19.039 that were boys that were effeminate, girls that were tomboys. My wife said, 1143 01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:28.039 I was a tomboy, you know, before puberty happens many times, 1144 01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:33.600 the fantasies of children who like to play with barbie, boys that like to 1145 01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:38.920 play with barbies, girls that like to rough house and play with guns. 1146 01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:44.079 You know, that's just a part of growing up. It's a part of 1147 01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:50.960 being human, and there's nothing sexual about it. But yet we are living 1148 01:33:51.079 --> 01:34:00.960 in a day at an age where some states do not have. In fact, 1149 01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:04.039 California, you can be thrown in jail as a parent for nut coddling 1150 01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:14.600 to the gender identity of your minor child. And these people are being told 1151 01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:20.640 over and over again in places like schools and on the internet that it's okay, 1152 01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:28.600 that it's normal to feel like you need to transition into another gender. 1153 01:34:29.239 --> 01:34:35.520 It's normal for you to think that your sexuality given at birth is a mistake. 1154 01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:45.880 And here we are in the middle of Pride month, and again we're 1155 01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:48.640 seeing these messages. There are twenty states now thankfully in this country, that 1156 01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:57.600 have passed laws or in the middle of passing laws that say that, yeah, 1157 01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:01.039 the parents need to be involved and if the child is under the age 1158 01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:06.800 of eighteen in other words, not a legal adult, that these surgeries and 1159 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:15.920 this puberty blocking cannot be continued. There's an eighteen year old California woman, 1160 01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:21.560 she's eighteen, named Lila Jane. I saw the report earlier today. She 1161 01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:27.479 was put on puberty blockers at the age of twelve. I don't know if 1162 01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:32.159 this is with their parents' consent or not. This is California, after all, 1163 01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:38.119 she had her breast removed. In other words, she was mutilated at 1164 01:35:38.199 --> 01:35:45.000 the age of thirteen. She is now suing Kaiser Permanente Hospital who did that 1165 01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:50.840 operation when she was a minor child. You cannot have children, You can 1166 01:35:50.880 --> 01:36:00.720 out have people who are not legally adults making these decisions without parental consent or 1167 01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:08.960 by bullying the parents into going along with it if they're not adults. There's 1168 01:36:08.960 --> 01:36:15.199 a study out just now. It says that one percent of transgender individuals regret 1169 01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:20.800 the decision that they made. I suggest we're going to see that go higher 1170 01:36:20.920 --> 01:36:27.560 and higher and higher. And obviously this young lady who is now de transitioning 1171 01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:38.159 is someone who wishes she had a chance back to change her mind now that 1172 01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:44.920 she understands exactly the ramifications of what she has done to herself or what has 1173 01:36:44.960 --> 01:36:51.479 been done to her by those who would groom her. It's not hateful to 1174 01:36:51.640 --> 01:36:59.720 be against the transitioning of children because children have not had enough life experiences. 1175 01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:09.439 They're brains aren't fully developed enough to know exactly how life changing that decision will 1176 01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:17.560 be. And there are people who are pushing this through indoctrination in our public 1177 01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:25.039 schools, in public libraries, the drag Queen's Story Hour for five year olds 1178 01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:30.720 that we've heard so much about. And that's why governors like RHN DEAs Sentis 1179 01:37:30.399 --> 01:37:33.000 have said, you know what, this is not what the people of my 1180 01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:40.760 state, my constituents want. It was not a don't say gay bill, 1181 01:37:41.399 --> 01:37:46.359 that was never in the legislation. It was about introducing children to sexualize material 1182 01:37:47.119 --> 01:37:53.840 at an age that is inappropriate. Kids can't make those kind of decisions for 1183 01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:59.159 themselves, and that's what if Lady Maga had been with us, I know 1184 01:37:59.279 --> 01:38:01.880 he would say this is his crusade. And again, this is an openly 1185 01:38:01.960 --> 01:38:09.159 gay guy's not in a relationship right now, who has worked as a performer 1186 01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:16.560 as a female impersonator and has been shunned by some in the LGBTQIA plus community 1187 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:23.840 for stating that kids are being groomed and it's wrong. He believes as I 1188 01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:29.079 do, and maybe you do, that these people are nothing but political pedophiles 1189 01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:36.920 praying on the most vulnerable of us in our society, and that's nothing that 1190 01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:43.279 anybody should be proud of. Food for thought. We'll take a break and 1191 01:38:43.359 --> 01:38:49.880 come back. Two forty four Gary Jeff and for Willie on seven lw GONE 1192 01:38:50.760 --> 01:38:59.239 pre run of home run TJ Freedom said Tyler Stevens all the Folish thrust the 1193 01:38:59.359 --> 01:39:04.079 right field. Tyler Stephens just does number twenty seven at a hurry, highly 1194 01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:11.000 dives and makes the Dad number nine beat mccreen, turning it all rounding second 1195 01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:15.079 best foot driple who is Sincinnati reds play I'm the home of the race. 1196 01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:24.199 It was seven hundred w l w CBG Cincinnati. The man who is taken 1197 01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:28.880 over my role around here as the whackamoll of talk radio will be here with 1198 01:39:29.239 --> 01:39:33.319 his h with his sidekick who's actually driving today? I guess that's what they 1199 01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:36.520 call it when you do a two man show. Who who's ever in this 1200 01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:43.359 seat is driving the vehicle. Whoever is in that seat is the passenger in 1201 01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:47.119 the vehicle and therefore subjugated by the man who's driving. I mean, the 1202 01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:51.960 guy is driving gets to work the air conditioner. The radio says when we're 1203 01:39:51.960 --> 01:39:56.680 gonna stop, when we're not gonna stop. So if the person who's in 1204 01:39:56.720 --> 01:40:00.600 the passenger seat wants to change the radio or one to pee, he's got 1205 01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:05.119 to ask the driver for permission to do that. And relegated to that secondary 1206 01:40:05.239 --> 01:40:11.159 role. Today for the afternoon replacement for uh, for Eddie and Rocky is 1207 01:40:11.279 --> 01:40:15.439 Dan Carroll. How does it feel to be the driver? Well? Or 1208 01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:19.560 could we have keV, Dave, Dave turn up Mike four? Please? 1209 01:40:21.399 --> 01:40:25.399 No, he didn't know you were in here. Dave? Are you listening? 1210 01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:30.960 Uh? Check? Check now we're on. So anyway, how do 1211 01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:36.640 you feel about being in a secondary role to Jason Williams. I'm voluntarily letting 1212 01:40:36.800 --> 01:40:44.119 Jason lead the show today because as I'll just sit here and follow, you're 1213 01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:47.399 submissive. It's essentially like taking a day off. You're submissive. It's actually 1214 01:40:47.479 --> 01:40:51.560 I'm actually at work. Your role playing kind of getting fad. But it's 1215 01:40:51.600 --> 01:40:55.960 really more like a day off. So it's it's a it's a bonus for 1216 01:40:56.079 --> 01:40:58.680 me. I have a couple of things I want. It's gonna have to 1217 01:40:58.760 --> 01:41:00.960 do all the work. Well, it is heavy lifting. Sitting behind this 1218 01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:05.239 sitting in this chair. You've been here almost three hours, and he was 1219 01:41:05.319 --> 01:41:09.640 the head that wears the crown. You look bushed. Well, no, 1220 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:14.039 I look like I look like George H. W. Bush after his first 1221 01:41:14.199 --> 01:41:16.840 term as president. That's what I look like. You might say that just 1222 01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:24.640 from my friend Steve Shackelford, a more Juneteenth father Gary jeff During a genealogy 1223 01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:28.479 search of my family, I discovered that my sixth great grandfather was a Cherokee 1224 01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:30.760 Indian who was killed by whites for having married a white woman my sixth great 1225 01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:34.000 grandmother. Yet I do not feel that I am owed anything. I also 1226 01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:39.560 found out that my great great grandfather, who was an outlaw who preyed upon 1227 01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:43.479 the hill people of Harlan County, Kentucky. So I guess things balance out 1228 01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:48.840 and he left. An article is about his great great grandfather, Asher Hensley, 1229 01:41:49.239 --> 01:41:54.319 but I don't think that in truth. When I talked to Chris Smithman 1230 01:41:54.359 --> 01:42:00.479 earlier, he doesn't feel like he's owed anything as a result of juneeenth and 1231 01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:03.239 slavery. In fact, just the opposite, and he made that very clear. 1232 01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:09.000 I don't think anybody truly feels that Juneteenth means that they are owed something 1233 01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:11.439 because of the color of their skin. I mean, there are some people 1234 01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:15.720 in politics who are using this as a weapon, as Karen Cataleen said, 1235 01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:20.880 to divide and conquer us as a nation as a unified nation. But I 1236 01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:25.560 don't. I don't feel like people celebrating Juneteenth means that they feel like they're 1237 01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:30.920 owed anything. Do you No, I don't feel that way. And if 1238 01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:34.159 we're gonna have a federal holiday for this, then it's like Andy Furman said, 1239 01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:38.560 I'm in the same boat as Andy Furman. Fine, do whatever you 1240 01:42:39.039 --> 01:42:44.039 and I I don't erase histor you can sake of. You can't erase history, 1241 01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:51.199 and doing that is you do that ill advisedly. If you seek to 1242 01:42:51.279 --> 01:42:56.880 erase history, and you and You've got so many out there who just can 1243 01:42:57.159 --> 01:43:01.000 continually lie about this. So, for instance, I often talk about our 1244 01:43:01.039 --> 01:43:08.279 friends at MSNBC, and they have gone to the Their baseline now is whenever 1245 01:43:08.319 --> 01:43:12.319 they talk about Rhonda Santis, for example, is that Rhonda Santis is a 1246 01:43:12.359 --> 01:43:16.680 white supremacist, Rhonda Santis is a racist, homophobe, all that, and 1247 01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:21.600 so that that before they even begin the discussion on whatever the topic might be 1248 01:43:23.279 --> 01:43:27.560 concerning rhn de Santis, that's their starting point. That that that that that 1249 01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:34.000 is a given. So how can you reasonably debate and exchange ideas with people 1250 01:43:34.439 --> 01:43:39.720 when they go into it with that is their baseline? How does that? 1251 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:42.880 How does that happen? You can't have legitimate debate on that. The most 1252 01:43:42.960 --> 01:43:46.279 poignant part of our conversation with Chris Smitherman earlier, I think, was when 1253 01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:50.319 he said, I am not a victim. I've never been a victim because 1254 01:43:50.479 --> 01:43:56.039 of my skin color, because of my ethnicity, because of my people, 1255 01:43:56.119 --> 01:44:02.760 And it was very proud and highlighting his his father's PhD. He was like 1256 01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:06.359 the they called him the Jackie Robinson, a procter and gamble. That's why 1257 01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:14.000 Chris Smitherman is probably I think there was a time on this radio station when 1258 01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:20.279 Mike Allen was the most listened to or the most the guest that most people 1259 01:44:20.560 --> 01:44:24.479 enjoyed hearing, right, I think Chris Smitheman has taken over that role. 1260 01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:29.880 Now I was proud, just tremendous. Here's another here's another little something for 1261 01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:31.159 you to put in your pipe and smoke it. Or if you if you 1262 01:44:31.239 --> 01:44:36.640 like edibles, we can get you some of those two gen Z according to 1263 01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:39.680 this story in The New York Pot, I don't know if you've seen this, 1264 01:44:40.920 --> 01:44:45.359 gen Z is ditching credit cards and going back to cash. This is 1265 01:44:45.399 --> 01:44:49.399 the most hopeful thing I have heard in a long time, because I see 1266 01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:53.640 it all over the place, kids going, oh, man, I hate 1267 01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:58.640 cash. I'm using credit. But gen Z is going back to cash and 1268 01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:04.159 engaging in an act known as cash stuffing, where they got separate envelopes for 1269 01:45:04.239 --> 01:45:10.399 the stuff they want to put their their money. It is. I still 1270 01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:14.920 do this at home, you know, I'm not going to say that where 1271 01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:19.159 it is, but I still I still stick money for certain things. Certain 1272 01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:26.560 Yeah, flush with cash. If you call like three hundred four hundred bucks, 1273 01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:30.920 that's flush with cash for me. But anyway, gen Z has got 1274 01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:35.359 a staggering according to this report, sixty nine percent of gen Z, according 1275 01:45:35.479 --> 01:45:41.760 to Credit Karma and their survey sixty nine percent of gen Z is using cash 1276 01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:45.279 more now than they did twelve months ago, as opposed to gen X forty 1277 01:45:45.359 --> 01:45:50.760 seven percent and baby boomers like me thirty seven percent. And this is according 1278 01:45:50.800 --> 01:45:56.760 to this report, again published by Credit Karma, a rise in cash stuffing 1279 01:45:56.880 --> 01:46:01.079 by gen zers and with all the push towards a digital currency and getting us 1280 01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:08.000 off of cash so they can track every single payment, every single expense, 1281 01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:14.000 everything we do financially. Whoever they are, and I hate them already because 1282 01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:16.000 they're trying to do this. That's that's our friend, Barack Husaint Obama in 1283 01:46:16.039 --> 01:46:19.000 the Deep State. Well, yes, exactly, because they want to know 1284 01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:23.359 where all the money is and they want to keep track of everything we do. 1285 01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:28.479 That's the only reason to push is on for digital. This notion when 1286 01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:32.920 you see that there are places at nightclubs that you go out to that the 1287 01:46:33.239 --> 01:46:35.720 moment you walk in the door, the first thing you do is you hand 1288 01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:42.039 over your credit card and everything goes, every purchase goes right onto that credit 1289 01:46:42.079 --> 01:46:44.680 card, and you go and you party all night long and you don't know 1290 01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:46.600 how much money you spend. Then you get the sticker shock when you see 1291 01:46:46.960 --> 01:46:51.199 the credit card bill. You know, two or three weeks later when it 1292 01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:56.079 comes in the mail or I guess email is great American ballpark, you can't 1293 01:46:56.159 --> 01:46:58.199 use cash. I hate anywhere in the stadium. I hate it too, 1294 01:46:58.239 --> 01:47:00.640 and it's probably the only reason. And I am not going to endeavor to 1295 01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:03.119 go to a Reds game, even as hot as they aren't, as exciting 1296 01:47:03.199 --> 01:47:05.239 as they are to watch. I'd love to go to the State em and 1297 01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:09.119 see that I was invited to go to the Reds game tonight. I'm gonna 1298 01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:16.399 be here instead. I'm not pretending I'm not participating in the taking away of 1299 01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:20.640 our financial freedom by participating in a cashless society. I'm just not going to 1300 01:47:20.760 --> 01:47:25.479 do it. I'll go to barter before I before I sign up for some 1301 01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:29.119 digital I mean, it's it's strictly biblical. It's right out of the Book 1302 01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:31.960 of Revelation. You know the mark of the Beast. Well, you cannot 1303 01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:35.640 buy or sell anything without this mark or in that could be a chip in 1304 01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:38.960 your hand, or that could be a card. Well, and you've got 1305 01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:41.479 to say you have to use if you want to buy or sell any And 1306 01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:45.119 you've got Barack Obama out there now, who's doing interviews talking about that everyone 1307 01:47:45.319 --> 01:47:50.920 needs to be identifiable. And God forbid you put some misinformation out on the 1308 01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:58.600 internet, anything other than the prescribed government approved wording of it, on any 1309 01:47:58.680 --> 01:48:02.800 subject, and then you can be tracked to be punished for putting out what 1310 01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:06.680 they consider to be misinformation. Speech police. Yes, all right, this 1311 01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:10.199 is the kind of stuff that he's promoting. It. It's Dan Carroll and 1312 01:48:10.359 --> 01:48:14.960 Jason Williams in on this holiday which you know none of the regulars actually work 1313 01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:19.079 for some odd reason. Jeff Brantley will be here after the news the top 1314 01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:23.239 of the hour, the Cowboys. We'll be talking from Red spaseball with the 1315 01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:27.159 cow of course, what else would you talk? Ribs? Maybe with sauce 1316 01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:33.079 on the side or greater screen. That's right, baby, that's right, 1317 01:48:33.520 --> 01:48:39.159 all right. So when when Jason Williams is driving and you're sitting in the 1318 01:48:39.199 --> 01:48:42.079 passenger seat, I'll be right here where you see you like, try and 1319 01:48:42.079 --> 01:48:45.000 give him what Willie and stuff and distract him so you know, maybe he 1320 01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:51.239 swerves off the road. I'm a professional professional one need I say more? 1321 01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:56.239 Dan Carroll, Jason Williams coming up next, And for Eddie and Rocky, 1322 01:48:56.520 --> 01:49:03.079 thanks for joining in. It's three o'clock believe that GOLW News Traffic and Weather 1323 01:49:03.680 --> 01:49:12.479 News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati trying to get on better footing with the three 1324 01:49:12.520 --> 01:49:16.640 o'clock report. I'm Jack Crumley breaking now US Secretary of State Anthony Blinkin today 1325 01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:21.560 in China meeting with President Shijin Ping. It represents the highest level meeting on 1326 01:49:21.800 --> 01:49:26.199 Chinese soil between the two countries in the last two and a half years. 1327 01:49:26.439 --> 01:49:30.159 You have this dominance effect that's happening there with China where they're trying to become 1328 01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:33.560 the dominant player in the eastern Western Pacific, and the United States continues to 1329 01:49:33.640 --> 01:49:38.880 maintain that that is where they want to maintain international rules of order. They 1330 01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:43.239 say that China has been transgressing those by moving beyond, by making territorial claims 1331 01:49:43.239 --> 01:49:46.479 in the South China Sea, by conducting provocative of military exercises on Taiwan. 1332 01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:50.520 When then Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited. So it's very complex relationship, and the 1333 01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:55.000 whole situation is essentially how do you get beyond this? That is ABC is 1334 01:49:55.079 --> 01:49:59.479 Louis Martinez. This visit by Blincoln could set up a meeting between President she 1335 01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:04.239 and Resident Biden later this year. Now, the latest traffic and weather together. 1336 01:50:04.319 --> 01:50:08.920 I'm the u S Health Traffic Center. U SEE HEALTHS Proton Therapy Center 1337 01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:14.039 targets cancerous tumors with submillimeter precision. Call five one three five eight four beam 1338 01:50:14.079 --> 01:50:16.520 to learn more. That's five eight four b E a M. Just one 1339 01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:20.520 accident in your way. That's on Reading Road between Dorchester Avenue and McGregor Avenue. 1340 01:50:20.640 --> 01:50:25.279 I'm John Crawford on news radio seven hundred w WELW. Still some slow 1341 01:50:25.359 --> 01:50:28.920 spots in the city as rain continues to fall on this afternoon drive. Northbound 1342 01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:32.000 seventy five is slow through Florence for several miles on the approach to the two 1343 01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:35.640 seventy five interchange in Erlanger, then you stay slow up into Fort Mitchell. 1344 01:50:35.720 --> 01:50:39.399 Things open up a little bit more coming down the cut in the hill on 1345 01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:42.880 the approach to the Brent Spence Bridge. Southbound seventy five just a little bit 1346 01:50:42.920 --> 01:50:45.520 slow. Heading into downtown. On that same approach, there is a report 1347 01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:48.800 of a crash northbound seventy five near the Norwood Lateral. You're just a little 1348 01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:53.720 bit slow on the merge from traffic coming west on five sixty two. Also 1349 01:50:53.800 --> 01:50:57.520 seeing that normal afternoon slow down northbound seventy one, right around the Red Bank 1350 01:50:57.640 --> 01:50:59.199 Merge, heading up into the Kenwood