1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Hi everyone. This is Christina, this is Carmen, and this is another 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,080 episode of a Spooky Tales, the podcast for all things spooky, spooky, 3 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:16,120 my bad. We're going back to our roots today. There's no true crime, 4 00:00:16,359 --> 00:00:20,239 just like you promised me. Yeah, I promise you specifically, Carmen. 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:27,120 Yes, yes, yeah, today we're doing legends from our lovely Guadalajara. 6 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:31,480 Guadalajara. Yeah. Every time we hear Gualla Dahara, I just start 7 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:36,159 singing Guadadhara, Guadadada, but I can't sing, so you know, yeah, 8 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:40,359 I'm not gonna do that again. Yeah. I'm surprised you actually did 9 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:44,679 that. I know. I may cut it, I know, and I 10 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:48,960 had to leave it. Yeah, you're right, you're right. Yeah, 11 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:53,320 Guada Dahara. And yeah, that's where our fami is at. That is 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,039 where our other piece of our heart, that's where it's that's where it is. 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,119 Yeah. And we've talked about legends from Guadalahada before. We have a 14 00:01:02,159 --> 00:01:06,040 whole episode where we did, like said, the Los Perros and other places, 15 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:11,079 the graveyard nelin yes, yeah uh and then still a separate episode about 16 00:01:12,519 --> 00:01:19,879 Elspital cv Ellspital uhah. Yeah, Guadalahara is hunted af but we love it. 17 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:26,439 We love it. Our grandma's house, yeah, our grandma's house. 18 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,959 Yeah. Before we get into Guadalajada though, we do have a listener story. 19 00:01:30,079 --> 00:01:34,480 Carmen is reading it. I am doing the honors today. Christina so 20 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:41,560 graciously trusted me with this huge responsibility today. So I just hope that I 21 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,920 do right by you and the listeners. Mm hmm. So this is from 22 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,079 Gracie. She says, Hi, y'all, my name is Gracie, and 23 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:53,480 I love the podcast. I enjoy listening to spooky stories and estonias known oh 24 00:01:53,599 --> 00:02:00,280 yeah, oh hey. During work or my drive home, I tell people 25 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:04,840 about y'all to listen since you're one of my favorite podcasts. Thank you so 26 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,359 much, Grazy, thank you, Thank you. It means a lot. 27 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,479 Okay, So back to her story. You're already messing up. You're messing 28 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:15,080 me up. Sorry, Okay. So Gracie says, my story takes place 29 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,319 in the Imperial Valley, where I'm originally from. It's a small farming county 30 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,879 in California by Mexicali, Mexico, where there are tolos and cowboys alike. 31 00:02:25,039 --> 00:02:31,080 Love that love it, she says. She specifies my family were tolos Oh. 32 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Okay, So Gracie says. I was about ten and I was living 33 00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:39,520 in Section eight housing with other single mothers and elderly people. I would go 34 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,759 outside during the winter it's like one hundred and fifteen plus degrees in the summer 35 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:49,199 and play with my friends in the Section eight complex. My friend and I 36 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,199 were outside of the apartments along with her mom and my nana, who were 37 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,199 best friends. They were in the grassy area far from the apartments, and 38 00:02:57,319 --> 00:02:59,719 the kids were playing in the street. I had to pee, so I 39 00:02:59,759 --> 00:03:01,919 asked my friend if I could use the bathroom in her apartment, since we 40 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,280 were closest to hers in mine. She said yes, and I went inside. 41 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:08,240 Around this time. It was after five pm, so it was super 42 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:13,080 dark outside and the lights were off in the apartment. I went in by 43 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,360 myself. I'm already scared. Okay, that was me, not Gracie. 44 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,800 By the way, stop, I can't I have to interject my opinion. 45 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,639 It's the Leo and me, Okay. The way the apartment is set up, 46 00:03:23,719 --> 00:03:28,120 you enter through the living room, which is connected to the dining room 47 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,199 and the kitchen. Then in between that there's a hall that leads you to 48 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:36,560 two bedrooms and the restroom in the far back of the hall, and all 49 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:38,719 of the apartments were the same lay out, the same size and shape. 50 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:43,759 I turned to the hall in order to go to the restroom when I saw 51 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:50,759 siluette of an elderly man in the hall. Okay, he was tall, 52 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,879 had a wrinkly face, and wore a cowboy hat. Okay, so not 53 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:00,039 okay, so a cowboy ghost. Oh like your tattoo. That's what she 54 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:04,800 saw. Let us know, crazy, Please let us know if that's what 55 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:10,159 you saw. No, she said, I was an elderly man with wrinkles 56 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:14,319 and everything. Yeah, you're right. Scratch all that. Sorry, So 57 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,439 back to the story. I literally stopped in my tracks and stared at the 58 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,480 silhouette. No man lived in the apartment with my friend and her mom. 59 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:25,879 Her dad dipped years ago, and there wasn't a man sitting with my nana 60 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,399 and my friend's mom outside sitting with them when I went inside, but the 61 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:31,839 man was looking at me. I ran outside. I would have peed right 62 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:34,319 then and there, but okay, whatever, back to this. Yeah, 63 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,560 for real, I ran outside of my friend's apartment, and when they asked 64 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:42,519 where I was going, I said, back to my house. She said, 65 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,160 I'm leaving, I'm out of here. I'm my boy, And so 66 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:49,600 she says I lived in the same apartment complex, just three minutes away. 67 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:54,439 I almost peed myself running the stairs, but I just couldn't get close to 68 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:58,680 the man in the hallway. Turns out my friend's apartment was haunted. They 69 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,199 heard things that night, stuff moved around, and they saw shadows like I 70 00:05:02,319 --> 00:05:05,519 did. They were Christians, so they got their pastor to bless the house 71 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,759 to tried to get rid of the devil, but it never worked. I 72 00:05:09,879 --> 00:05:12,639 later in life, had a friend in high school who lived right above that 73 00:05:12,759 --> 00:05:16,160 apartment. It was a two story apartment building and there's only like forty thousand 74 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:20,040 people in town. I told them about the experience I had downstairs and asked 75 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:25,040 if they or their family ever experienced anything. They said no, and I 76 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,439 was shocked because I figured it was the whole apartment building that was haunted. 77 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:30,839 Now I'm twenty four and I talked to my spiritual friends about it, and 78 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,839 they suggested it was Bruhetiah curse on the family itself, which isn't far fetched. 79 00:05:35,879 --> 00:05:40,199 But I'm no expert any kind of spiritual stuff. I had never been 80 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,759 back inside of that apartment alone. And I haven't heard from my old friend 81 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:46,920 or her mom in years. I moved away from my hometown years ago, 82 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:49,199 but I still think about that experience. I definitely have to email back with 83 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,519 other experiences that I've had, please Christie, including the Wali house in San 84 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:00,360 Diego. Oh okay, m hmmm. And then she says, people have 85 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:01,879 a good day. Also, hi to my husband and said here for my 86 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,519 five seconds of fame. Stay is spooky. I love it, Gracie, 87 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:12,000 Thank you so much. Creepy And yeah, you know, you would think 88 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,000 if one apartment was experiencing something the one above it would be two, but 89 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:21,079 not always. Sometimes ghosts they like their spaces. It's definitely interesting. Yeah, 90 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,480 but I'm like I would figure too, in an apartment complex, more 91 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,680 than one of the apartments would be haunted. Wow. Yes, thank you 92 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:30,519 so much for saying that. In that's very creepy. Sorry, I was 93 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:32,879 gonna say when we're thinking about the story, oh you were gonna say more. 94 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:36,319 Sounds like you were done. I do think she's right about the bluehetia. 95 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,680 No, I don't know why I stopped them. And then it took 96 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,160 a sip like I did have more points. But that's why I thought you 97 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:50,199 were done. It makes sense. So yeah, it's definitely weird that only 98 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:54,839 that apartment was haunted, and I think it does make sense that maybe it 99 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:58,839 could just have been her family. That's true. That's true too. You 100 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,120 never know, and like if they moved and I followed them and no one 101 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,079 else had experiences, and yeah, that would have cement that belief, Like 102 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,160 not that that we know that that happened, but like it could have. 103 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,279 Yeah. Yeah, If you have a story that you want to send into 104 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:15,519 the podcast, you can email a spookitos at gmail dot com. You can 105 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,120 submit it on our discord that is linked in the show notes. You can 106 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:23,079 call the a spooky hotline. There's actually like three messages we have to listen 107 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,639 to at some point that I haven't like downloaded and since to listen to. 108 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,160 So we had to do that and I love receiving those. I love receiving 109 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,639 all your stories. Though you can also dmo Instagram. That's another option, 110 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:38,720 though I lose track of that very easily. That makes sense, So email 111 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:42,399 and discord is the best one. Discord is even better because there's a whole 112 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,000 channel that just has submit a scary story and that's a very easy place to 113 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:48,439 find and then people can comment on it. Yeah, it's great. So 114 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,680 yeah, join that if you want to be used. Discord Kerman doesn't. 115 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:55,879 So I just remembered that I said I was gonna try it out, and 116 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,199 then I never did. I forgot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's 117 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:01,959 why I made that face, was like, I know, okay, So 118 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:09,000 now onto Guadalajara. Galalada, galahada. Thank you. I was waiting. 119 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:16,120 Yeah, I'm sure that longtime listeners of Speakytaiales know. But yeah, that 120 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:22,199 is where Carman and mine, Carmen and our our family is thank you. 121 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:26,199 I don't know how to talk. Yes, that's where our family is at. 122 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,199 That is where we go when we visit Mexico to visit our grandma. 123 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,759 Yeah, and we love it. We love the city. It's a big 124 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,960 city. It's actually I might have said this in our first Guadalajara episode, 125 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,799 but it's one of the only cities in Mexico, not one of the only 126 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:45,240 ones. But that wasn't already an established community that the Spanish k men took 127 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:50,080 over like there was nothing. There was no indigenous population in Guadalajara, in 128 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:54,600 Guada Lahara. Really, yeah, specifically. Yeah, it was a settlement 129 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:58,480 from the beginning. Yeah, like there was no moving people obviously other parts 130 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:01,399 of Jalisco, Yes, yeah, specifically. No. Oh, I didn't 131 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,240 know that as far as I have read, I mean, I hope I'm 132 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,720 not like wrong, and you know, so of course if I'm wrong, 133 00:09:07,799 --> 00:09:11,080 correct me, but like nicely or I'll cry. But yeah, we've shared 134 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,279 many legends. But of course Guadala is amazing and very haunted, so there's 135 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:20,559 always more stories. And I hope to go to one of these when i'm 136 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,440 there. At least we've been to one. Which one in the pantheon? 137 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:30,200 Oh and oh my god, we did a whole tour and everything we did 138 00:09:30,279 --> 00:09:33,919 the Torriyah and our grandma's house and our grandma's house is hunted. Yes, 139 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:37,440 And we went to Meetia's house and she says saw, she said, she 140 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:41,759 sla. You do not remember. Yes, Oh, actually Artia and Guadalajaram. 141 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:45,279 This is related, So I'm gonna share it. That same house where 142 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,840 she says she lay. They say that there's like a like a shadow that 143 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:52,639 people see. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, they say that 144 00:09:52,879 --> 00:09:56,679 that one time one of our cousins was coming home late from Cristiano. I 145 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,080 guess everyone was already asleep, and he was walking in and there was another 146 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,080 cousin. His sister was sleeping on the bed, and then against the wall, 147 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,399 he saw like a shadow creeping up on her and then he almost passed 148 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:11,639 out in fear. Damn. That's that's scary. Yeah, And it was 149 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,279 like a huge shadow. And he's not the only one in that in that 150 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,399 street that has seen this shadow in the walls of their house. So interesting, 151 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,120 very scary. So yeah, the first place that we're gonna talk about 152 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:31,600 in Guadalajara is Ospicios and it's actually known as Museo Caabagas now it's in the 153 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,679 center of Guadalajara. So where like the you know, big cathedral with Santa 154 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,679 No Sensia in it, you know, the big Do you know that story? 155 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:46,000 Sure, surely you do. I think we've shared it on the past. 156 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,480 Yeah, sorry, I just didn't. I took me a second to 157 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,360 think about because I didn't remember ever what it's called. You're talking about the 158 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:54,159 girl who was killed or something like that and her bones were there whatever. 159 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,759 No, yeah, yeah, I like her allegedly wanting to legend her mammified 160 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:03,360 body is okay, yeah, yeah, on display and her dad killed her 161 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,600 right because you wanted to be a Catholic or something like that. Yes, 162 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,279 okayes that is the legend. Yeah, we've covered it much better on a 163 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,559 different episode. So yeah, where the cathedral is at where I know this 164 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,120 place at San Juan de Dios. That means we've been there too. We 165 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,519 have, we have been. We've for sure we've seen her. You just 166 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,399 don't remember it, I think, but yeah, we've been to the cathedral 167 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:28,200 many times. And San Juan de Dios is in the same area. So 168 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:35,639 this place Specio is like a five ten minute walk down from so it's all 169 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:41,759 in the same area basically the center of Godalajara so musill is what it's called 170 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:45,559 now, But it was once so Specio like hospice, yes, oh, 171 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,399 spcio ca. Yeah, it was built by Juan Cruz Ruiz, the cas 172 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:56,799 hence hence yes. And he arrived from Spain with a dream and a lot 173 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,600 of money because he was uh, because he got there in the first place. 174 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:03,840 Yeah, yeah, he had the full support of the Spanish crown. 175 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:07,320 So you know, it's a bit more like he arrived with a dream with 176 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,159 nothing but a pocket of change and a dream or whatever, but this is 177 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:13,840 the opposite. He had a dream and a lot of support from the Spanish 178 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:20,559 because they were colonizing Mexico, so right, right, So he had a 179 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,360 dream to help the poor, orphaned Mexicans and the old, the sick, 180 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,879 and so he brought the idea to build this place that was going to be 181 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,559 Serve, Serve the needy to the Spanish crown. They gave him the money. 182 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:37,360 Construction began in eighteen oh one, and then it opened in eighteen ten. 183 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:43,480 And it opened with the name Gasa de la Garidad e miseri Gordia the 184 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,840 House of Compassion and Mercy, something like that. I was like, what 185 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:56,440 is that word in English? Misi gordia mi sigrdia is either mercy or compassion. 186 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,360 I don't know which one. It could be both. I think it 187 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,440 depends on the context I see, but it sounds more it sounds more ominous 188 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,159 in Spanish. Yeah. When it opened, it served to help those in 189 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,879 need, the sick, the elderly, orphaned children. It provided them with 190 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:15,480 the home meals and education. It taught them like a vocation even but this 191 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:20,759 didn't last. The fights for Mexican independence began later that year, and then 192 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,879 the building was commandeered by the Spanish army when the war was over in eighteen 193 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:31,679 twenty one. Oh Spicio Cabanas then continued its original mission, and then when 194 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:37,039 Juan Gruz Ruiz de Cabaas passed away in eighteen twenty four, O Spicio Cavagnas 195 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,279 then became a center for children only, so it no longer was a hospital 196 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:45,480 for everyone. It was just an orphanage slash hospital, but not really like 197 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,960 an emergency hospital, just to help the children who were already there that were 198 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,960 sick. Okay, some sources say that it could said that it could house 199 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,480 six hundred children, but others set one hundred and thirty children. Not so 200 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:01,120 big discrepancy in numbers. We're between one hundred and six hundred, okay, 201 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,759 yeah, yeah, makes perfect sense. I'm inclined to believe the bigger number 202 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:15,200 because it had one hundred and twenty six rooms and there was more than one 203 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:20,279 yeah, more than in a room. Yeah, m hmmm. So that's 204 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,080 why I'm inclined to believe the bigger number. So in eighteen fifty seven it 205 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:28,559 became the property of the Mexican government and it was under the management of a 206 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:35,159 group of nuns called Las Ermanas de la Garidad, and let me guess they 207 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,360 had no kharidav no no, no, okay, I mean maybe some of 208 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,240 them, but some of them did. Are you saying, what is khadida? 209 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:45,559 Yeah? Kharidad in English? What is that? Let me just Google 210 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,440 translate because it's sane. Oh it's saying charity, charity, I think really? 211 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:56,720 So okay, well then it would be sisters of Charity if Google Translate 212 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,519 is correct. Now that was just Google, like just from a dictionary type 213 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:05,159 thing. Yes, no, okay, yeah, charity it is. Yeah, 214 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,440 well, mightn't know that those are the words that should be in that 215 00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:11,480 game. The game because that game was too easy. It's because I guess 216 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:18,840 we're not actually, and that's evidenced by us having an easy time with the 217 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:24,799 game so far. The naysayers just kidding. We should record ourselves playing it 218 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:28,799 and put that as on Patreon. Oh that would be fun. Yeah, 219 00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:33,960 back to this. So, yes, charity apparently sisters of Charity. So 220 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,720 by this time it had one hundred and twenty six rooms, two chapels, 221 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:43,879 twenty three batios. I can't say batios in English. It sounds very wrong 222 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:50,480 to me. Patios seventy two hollways and a. It was full of beautiful 223 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:56,240 paintings, murals, and at this point it was an orphanage, uh until 224 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,919 it closed. While it was an orphanage, the children who cared for here, 225 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:06,360 a lot of them had their last names changed to Gabes Okay, which 226 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,000 is weird to me. I just that's why I added that in like, 227 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,720 just leave them with their own last name. Maybe the argument was that because 228 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:18,159 their orphans they don't have legally, they don't have parents anymore until they could 229 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,399 change their last names, I don't know, yeah, or maybe like the 230 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,320 ones that were small enough to not have had well, no you because when 231 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,679 someone gets dropped off, like we're found, I don't know, maybe children 232 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,879 that didn't have names. I guess we don't know, yeah, yeah, 233 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,799 yeah, which is a thing, But I don't know. So I don't 234 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,960 know what these circumstances of the children whose names were changed, But a lot, 235 00:16:41,159 --> 00:16:44,519 a lot of the children that went through the orphanage their last names were 236 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,279 changed to gabayes. Can you remind me what years these are? We are 237 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,480 in the eighteen fifties, eighteen I think during this time, it was still 238 00:16:53,720 --> 00:17:02,720 very popular to convert slash fource Indigenous people to con convert to Catholicism. So 239 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:06,400 could the name change come from that? Because I remember when I was I 240 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,519 don't remember what class I was taking where I some paper or something I was 241 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:19,200 studying. I ended up finding like it contained logs of last names like people 242 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:23,319 and children, but I think it was also adults in that log. Oh. 243 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,240 I think it was the history of California. This was in California, 244 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,960 but obviously back then it was Mexico. Yeah. Yeah, and you know 245 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,640 how there was the missionaries or the missions, yes, yes, yes, 246 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:40,079 so any Indigenous person that lived in the mission eventually was forced to convert, 247 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,680 right, yeah, and their names were changed. Yeah, and so then 248 00:17:44,039 --> 00:17:47,319 and then there was, yeah, this whole log of like hundreds and hundreds 249 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,279 and hundreds of names and it had like their indigenous name and when it was, 250 00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:53,839 you know, changed to a Spanish name. So maybe it's something like 251 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,920 like that. Also, I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it. 252 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,599 It's very possible. Yeah, the children there, they were all cared for 253 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,400 by the nuns there, and many former students recall their time at Elospico cavanas 254 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:15,000 fadly really okay, yeah, yeah, I'm surprised though the nuns did use 255 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:18,200 corporal punishment. Take care of them with a firm hand. Okay, so 256 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:25,200 yeah, but they still remember. Finally, so in nineteen eighty it became 257 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,240 El Instituto, and then it was changed to mussel Cavas, where you can 258 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:33,200 walk the same hallways the children did. Today you can admire many of the 259 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:41,720 mural murals, sorry murials, murals, many of the murals that were painted 260 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:45,920 by Jose Clemente Orosco, a famous painter in Guadalajara, and he has many 261 00:18:47,079 --> 00:18:51,359 murals across the city. And yeah, it's a beautiful building in the center 262 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,039 of Golahada, like I already said. But of course this wouldn't be a 263 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:59,200 topic on espooky tales if it was all just roses and loove or whatever the 264 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:02,039 saying is. I'm sure there's a saying like that. This is what I've 265 00:19:02,079 --> 00:19:04,680 been waiting for. What did you say? What's sane? What? Sorry? 266 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:08,680 Roses and like roses and oh no, you know what I was thinking 267 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:12,440 rose colored glasses, which doesn't make sense in this sentence. Oh okay, 268 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,000 yeah, I couldn't figure out you were trying to say. So, yeah, 269 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:22,039 it doesn't matter. So Els Picio Caes is home to stories of death 270 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,640 and ghosts. According to legend, back when it was still an orphanage, 271 00:19:26,839 --> 00:19:33,279 Specifica Vanes had a clock tower at the entrance. It was brought from Spain. 272 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,200 For the first few weeks, this clock worked fine, rain every hour 273 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,839 as it was intended to. It made the entrance look fancier. You know 274 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:45,359 what clocks do, what clock towers do. But for some unknown reason, 275 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:48,759 the clock stopped working. It was brand new, so you know, it 276 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:52,400 should have been working, but it often broke down, and it was always 277 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,240 in need of repair. Like it broke down and then it just wouldn't turn 278 00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:59,480 back on until the clock repair man came and fixed it. And at first 279 00:19:59,519 --> 00:20:03,960 it was just this annoying, inconvenient thing that kept happening. But then the 280 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:08,680 nuns noticed a disturbing pattern that shook them to their core. Three am. 281 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:14,559 No, the time didn't matter, oh okay, okay, but whatever time 282 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,240 it stopped at. At that exact time, a child in the orphanage was 283 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:25,759 found dead. Oh my god, and it became known as elre log de 284 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,400 lamerte. They didn't know why it was happening. People started saying Satan himself, 285 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:36,160 Satan Nas and Diablo himself was controlling the clock. So after they noticed 286 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,839 the pattern and that it happened again, then they were like, let's get 287 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,160 rid of this clock. Makes sense, makes sense? And yeah, they 288 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,240 got rid of it. And even though the clock was gone, the children 289 00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:51,680 who died, they remained dead. Yeah, and their ghosts were in the 290 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,599 building. Oh sorry, that makes sense that I just knock up there for 291 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,599 whatever reason, but it made sense. It was she also remained dead. 292 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:07,880 They remained there as ghosts. Yes, I was like, what they remained 293 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:18,519 what? Oh my god, I can't willow Okay, So and now this 294 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,440 is the story from Ospisioka Mussel. Someone was visiting. Lupe was in Guadalajara 295 00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:29,880 for the week. She wanted to reconnect with her Tapatillo heritage and visit her 296 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:34,440 yeah right, and visit her mom's hometown home city. And really it's a 297 00:21:34,519 --> 00:21:40,799 city, it's big. Being at her grandma's house with everyone was a little 298 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,920 too much for her. She was kind of introverted. So she got on 299 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,680 the bus and then you know, the train or metro, whatever you want 300 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,799 to call it, and then arrived at the historic center of Guadalalajara. She 301 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,759 went to the market San Juandelios. And then she walked around until she got 302 00:21:53,799 --> 00:22:00,319 to Mussel Cavanas, and she was looking at really everything there. It's uh, 303 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:03,200 it's a museum, so you can look at the paintings, the mural 304 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,400 mirror. Oh my fucking god, I can't say that word the murals. 305 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:10,920 Yes, I don't. Yeah, I don't know where you're putting the emphasis 306 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,640 you're putting. Keep saying the name. Yeah, you are saying the old 307 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,039 lady named Muriel. I'm so sorry. So, yeah, she's looking at 308 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,039 the beautiful paintings. I'm just gonna replace the word with paintings from now on. 309 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,799 I know that I'm not talking about a small painting, but a whole 310 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,079 wall. I just can't say the word. Well say, that's why you 311 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,279 need to say mural. I can't. I can't mural. Yeah was that 312 00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:38,640 better? Yeah? Thank you. So she was walking around, just you 313 00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:41,680 know, in awe of everything, because it is really a beautiful place. 314 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:48,519 But then she got to one mural. It was red with the clock and 315 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,599 a man trapped inside the clock. I mean that sounds scary. Fuck. 316 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,279 Yeah, it was very out of place. It didn't it looked like it 317 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,319 didn't belong with the rest of the murals, although some of them are already 318 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,640 very creepy. There's one very famous one called like a Man on Fire and 319 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,079 it's basically a man on fire. Oh, I think I've seen this, 320 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:10,000 you probably have. And this was meant to decorate a building for children. 321 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:15,440 So yeah, like it is already full of very strange paintings. But even 322 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,839 though one she was looking at that moment was out of place. But because 323 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,079 we're talking about the paintings already, I have to talk about this one because 324 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,880 it's very very strange. This is on the ceiling. Oh that's scary. 325 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,960 Yeah, and yeah, so this was it's kind of cool, painted by 326 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:38,599 Jose Clemente Rosco. Yeah, it's called Umbre de Fuego or the Man of 327 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:45,119 Fire. And yeah, you see these dark figures around a man. It 328 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,119 looks like they're either holding each other off or they're not holding hands, like 329 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:53,839 they're like intertwined, right, yeah, yeah, they are intertwined. And 330 00:23:53,960 --> 00:24:00,039 then in the center a man on fire walking. So yeah, just it 331 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,279 is full of strange paintings like this. But so the painting that Lupe was 332 00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:08,960 looking at at this moment, it was it was creepy, to say the 333 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,640 least to say the least. Yes. So it was covered in red. 334 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:17,519 It had a clock. Inside the clock there was a man and behind the 335 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:21,759 man a group of children, and it looked like they were behind him hiding 336 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,640 from something. And then in the corner of the painting of the mural there's 337 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,640 a nurse and she looks mean and she's looking at the children and this man 338 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,599 in her way of the children. So that's the painting that she was looking 339 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,920 at. That was like why is this here? So she just got this 340 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,880 very creepy feeling from it. It's like, this is weird. I'm gonna 341 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,920 go. So she turned around to walk away. But when she turned around, 342 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,799 she saw a boy peeking out of one of the rooms. He had 343 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,319 red hair, his face was bandaged, and he beckoned to her to come 344 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,880 to where he was. And like I would have been like fuck that, 345 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,559 but she went. I would to wave bye bye, like bless you little 346 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,319 little boy. But I can't come. I can't follow you. I can't 347 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,079 go there. I cannot Yeah, but she went. She went. When 348 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,240 she got inside the room, it was dark. Well, first she went 349 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,759 to the door and she peecked inside and it was dark. And then for 350 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,200 some reason, she still went inside the room because she didn't see the boy. 351 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,240 So she's like, where do you Maybe he's inside the room, Like 352 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:26,839 maybe I need to go in at again? Not me, better she went 353 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,079 and so inside it was cold, empty, dark, The boy was nowhere 354 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,960 to be seen. The temperature dropped, and she's like, okay, I 355 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:42,119 need to get out of heatly and she turned around to leave, and then 356 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,599 when she turned to you know, walk to the door, the boy was 357 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,640 standing there blocking the door. He was wearing a hospital gown. He looked 358 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:53,559 not alive anymore, you know, pale, ghostly. Oh my god, 359 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,279 and he laughed and reached out his hand, and then she was like front 360 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:03,319 in fear, about to pass out, and then he disappeared, Oh my 361 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:07,559 god. And she booked it out of the room. When she when she 362 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,119 ran down the hall, that mural she had been looking at, she didn't 363 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,519 see it, like it was like gone. But she's like whatever, I 364 00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:19,200 don't even care. I'm I'm out of here, and uh yeah, very 365 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:26,119 creepy. There's another legend about was Pecioas and this legend explains the deaths, 366 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,000 but not the clock. Really, I don't know what's going on with the 367 00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:36,160 clock. So according to this legend, the devil wasn't waiting to take the 368 00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:40,880 kids. It was an evil non nurse named Eva. Well, this would 369 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,039 make sense with the other story, with the picture she saw or the mural 370 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:51,319 she saw with the nun. Yes, so, Eva had been at Opcios 371 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,640 for years and it was noble work. But even then there was some kids 372 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,039 that could not be saved. Ev I believed that some kids were better off 373 00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:03,400 in heaven, and she was saving the kids by helping them get there faster 374 00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,680 ship Themuck up, I'm not that's what she said. Okay, that's what 375 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:15,319 the legend says. She said she didn't know how many kids she had sent 376 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:22,240 to her Lord and Savior Jesus Christ the Father, what the fuck? But 377 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240 she was proud of her work. Most of the time. She used a 378 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:33,759 pillow to send the six kids to heaven, but sometimes she swayed from her 379 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:40,640 from her M m O, if you will. Yeah. So there was 380 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,400 a little boy who had been sick for quite some time, and she didn't 381 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,279 want to wait to see if he'd get better. She was like, no, 382 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,240 he's forsaken. I need to save him. So she used poison on 383 00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:56,559 little red haired Benito m and it was taking longer for him to die than 384 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,519 usual. He was getting weaker, but he was still alive. She went 385 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,920 to go check on him, and so when she walked away, she heard 386 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,400 the clock chiming, and she walked over to the clock and was looking at 387 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,359 it, and then it stopped. It stopped, didn't stop ticking. And 388 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:15,400 as soon as it stopped hurt ticking, she heard screams coming from inside, 389 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,759 and she was like, oh, the other nuns found Benito. He's probably 390 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,839 dead by now. But she was no surprise to her because she was waiting 391 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,599 for him to die. Yeah, And so no one knows what happened to 392 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,079 Eva. A few days after Benito died, she was found dead next to 393 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,599 the clock tower. Right, that's what I think, That's what I suspect. 394 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,960 And to this day, people who visit was Spisoca Vannaz see the apparition 395 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,960 of a red headed boy, as well as a group of children together like 396 00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:47,880 running and they disappear or they're standing in a corner, all of them together. 397 00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:53,440 The kids always have black eyes so much worse. People also hear disembodied 398 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,680 giggles and cries. Very creepy. I want to go there, though I 399 00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:02,799 do. I mean I'm sure we won't see her hear anything if we go, 400 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,640 but let's take her mom. Yeah, well she'll tell us what exactly 401 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:15,480 go right. Well, not you, unfortunately, And I wish you could 402 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,079 come with us. But my mom, my brother, and sister in law 403 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:22,920 and the children were all going. And my sister in law she loves to 404 00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,640 shop and be out and about more than the rest of us, I think, 405 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:30,000 and our brother too. Yeah. And so they're talking about wanting to 406 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,839 go to San juandadios, and I'm like, well, going to the market. 407 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,720 I want to go to Ospicias. Yeah, so we'll see. I'm 408 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,559 hoping. But all the all the little haunted places are all nearby each other, 409 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,960 so, like, like I said, little pals, I think it's 410 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,359 like around the same area too. So I'm like, I want to go 411 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,960 to one or the other and take pictures. Yeah, the museum would be 412 00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:53,559 easy. Maybe make a log out of it, like a traveling one. 413 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,880 Wow. Yeah, the museum would be easy. We'll see. I have 414 00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:00,160 hopes only there for like six days, so who knows. Yeah, it's 415 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,880 hard to do stuff. Yeah, yeah, so I'm hoping to go there 416 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,279 though I do want to. But yeah, that was a and We're going 417 00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:11,000 to take a quick at break before we go to the other two places. 418 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:15,720 Welcome to our Hunted Break. 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That's what's called, huh, the Palace 437 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,079 of Cow's cow palace, I guess makes some sense. Yeah. So in 438 00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,680 the inteen nineties, Segundo Dias, the cousin of Mexico's president slash dictator Portfvidio 439 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,720 Porfirio Diaz m hm, he built a mansion on Caye de San Felipe in 440 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:10,759 the heart of the city, the center of Guadalajara. I've seen that street, 441 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,000 you have, Okay, well, I mean it's it. I think 442 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:19,920 it's one of the main streets. So construction on the home began in eighteen 443 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,400 fifty and it ended in nineteen ten, the same year as the Mexican Revolution. 444 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,359 So but I saw that as Bacas had twenty four rooms, two dining 445 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,599 rooms, a chapel, quatro patios, four patios, beautiful gardens in them, 446 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,720 and ten bathrooms. And I want to say, if only I had 447 00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:39,759 like one of those bathrooms, one of those extra bathrooms in my house. 448 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:45,839 You usually need one more, I know. Anyway, Yeah, ten bathrooms 449 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,960 and it was on a big chunk of land as well. Segundodias also commissioned 450 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:57,680 murals from Diego Rivera and Jose Clemente Orosco who did a lot of the Ospizio 451 00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:04,400 Gavagas murals as well, so tying that in with special covenes and Segas wanted 452 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,079 to build the mansion to marry a tapatia, a beautiful tapatia and those were 453 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:12,640 his words, not mine, Like that's what it says when you look up 454 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160 the info. Interesting. Yeah, and so he got the dream home, 455 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:22,559 but he did not get the dream He never married. Yeah. When it's 456 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:29,000 funny because it was like an English newspaper that was talking about going to Palasaccas 457 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,319 and they wrote a beautiful tapatia and then in parentheses they defined it, so 458 00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:38,559 it's like a beautiful woman from Laa. Wow. So yeah, he never 459 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,359 married, and he did live in the palace for some time before passing away. 460 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,240 When Segundodias died, the property was sold to his brother, Miguel Dias, 461 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:52,680 and he converted the land into a dairy farm. From palace to dairy 462 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,640 farm Okay, Yeah, he let his cows roam free, and this is 463 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,400 when it got the nickname Palasovacas. Wow. Eventually he did sell the property 464 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,159 and then the cow palace was used as a school for girls, and then 465 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,480 in elementary school, then a high school, then a theater, then an 466 00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:15,159 upholstery place, and apparently at some point it might have been a brothel as 467 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:21,800 well. Interesting, lots of lifetimes. It's lived a lot of lives. 468 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:28,000 It has, it really has. When the first time it was used as 469 00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,679 the school, it was the first girls school in Hally School. Wow. 470 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:37,079 And at some point a woman who owned the building she wanted to turn it 471 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:42,119 into a parking lot, but the city of Guadalajada would not let her because 472 00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,840 it was such a historic building. Like, you can't just destroy it, 473 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:47,840 makes sense? Makes sense? Yeah, So they finally for once put a 474 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:53,400 stop to capitalism, thank you? Yes, so because they didn't let her, 475 00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:59,280 then she plugged all the down spouts with cement. The fuck is wrong 476 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,880 with this bait with the hope that the weight of the water would cause the 477 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,239 building to collapse. Oh my fucking god, I know it didn't happen, 478 00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:14,119 but a lot of the murals were damaged. After the damage, it fell 479 00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:17,000 into disrepair and it was like abandoned for a little bit. That happened in 480 00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:22,800 the nineteen seventies. So yeah, it was now abandoned in disarray, and 481 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,400 locals believed that Oh no, sorry, I'm going to backtrack a little bit. 482 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,079 That happened. The building was damaged and then it was abandoned. In 483 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:34,840 the nineteen seventies, a different owner tried to buy it to destroy it, 484 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,760 to demolish it and put something else there, and for some reason, it 485 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,320 just never happened. The job was left unfinished and no one knows why. 486 00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:46,280 And people, locals started believing that the building could not be destroyed because spirits 487 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,519 had moved into it. Oh, they were making a new life there and 488 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,000 that's why it couldn't be destroyed. So the property was then sold two times 489 00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:00,800 to Americans who had big plans for the once grand Power dairy farm, school, 490 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:06,719 brothel, you know all his lives at one point, the Mirror family 491 00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,360 from California, you know, like John Muir m u I R yeah, 492 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,639 Like I feel like everyone in California knows who they are. They owned it 493 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,199 at some point. Then a man named John Davis bought it as well after 494 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,119 that at some point, and then he went broke trying to restore it. 495 00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:25,760 So I guess briefly, it also was a cafe, and it was very 496 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,639 well known for its very good cheese cake. I love cheesecake. I know, 497 00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:35,159 it's my favorite cake. It's actually the only cake I like. Well, 498 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,639 first of all, it's a pie. It has the word cake in 499 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,840 it. Okay, it's not cake. I've never thought of cheesecake as cake 500 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,440 though, I don't think it's like and why the fuck does it have the 501 00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:51,079 name cake? Just because whatever bunt cake is good? Oh, which one 502 00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:53,280 is bunt cake? Well, they make like different flavors and stuff, but 503 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,920 I think it's like a kind. And of course I'm no baker, but 504 00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:01,639 I've tasted. There's this place called Nothing They bun cakes. What a cute 505 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,880 name. And I haven't gone there, but I've I've tried stuff from there 506 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,079 because like they'll take it to my husband's work or like to my work, 507 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,280 and they make like these cupcakes that are made like bun whatever style that is 508 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,559 and delicious. So but I just got called it like not too moist but 509 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,239 not dry, because that's what I don't like about cake, And that's why 510 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,159 I don't like that, just because it's too moist. I only like one 511 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,480 reslegus cake and it's from a bakery by my house called Marthi's Bakery, and 512 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,679 they make a Cageta relegue cake. It's the only one to get cake for 513 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,800 my children's birthdays because it is the only cake I will get for them because 514 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,880 I like it. Oh, of course that's a little selfish. I don't 515 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,800 care. Okay, how do we get here? Cheesecake? Yes? It 516 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,679 was once it placed known for cheesecake. Yeah, so but this bakery's gone 517 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,599 correct, Yeah, it's gone. It's not there anymore. It's a museum 518 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,000 now, no bakery known for cheesecake. Because sorry, I'm gonna keep talking 519 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,480 about cheesecake for a second year. Me and my friend and my friend Lauda 520 00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:08,880 and I don't know if you remember this, but we went to when you 521 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,920 used to work at Chicken Bar, and we went there to eat cheesecake there, 522 00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,119 do you remember. So then we supposedly had made it a point, 523 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,760 we were calling it our cheesecake Adventures, where we were gonna go try cheesecake 524 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,639 from a bunch of places. Wow, I do not remember this well. 525 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,559 I didn't remember either until she texted me or she sent me a IG video 526 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,639 of some other some country and there was a huge line because the cheesecake's amazing 527 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,800 apparently, and she's like, should we resume our cheesecake adventures? And I 528 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,280 was like, hold up, And then that's when I remembered everything. And 529 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,119 also she told me we had cheesecake adventures. I didn't know. Yes, 530 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:52,360 yeah, we should resume them, right, mm hmm. So then that's 531 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,039 why I was asking if this bakery was still there, because it sounds like 532 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:59,239 I need to go there for a cheesecake adventure. I wish, I wish. 533 00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:02,199 Okay, no more cheesecake talk. Okay, done, I'm done. 534 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,199 Back to the episode, when it was a cafe known for its cheesecake. 535 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:14,039 The cafe conducted tours of the upper floors of the palace. How cool, 536 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,280 yeah, and it had not been restored. It was still in very poor 537 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,679 condition, and during these tours, visitors claimed to see shadow people or hear 538 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:28,760 do somebody's screams, and the shadows and screams. They all appeared to be 539 00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:34,840 children, all come from children, so sad, and some have theorized that 540 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:39,639 the ghosts and screams belonged to children who attended the former school that was there, 541 00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:45,679 while others believed that it was just children who played in the building when 542 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,760 it was abandoned and then like died accidentally in the building. Both makes sense. 543 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:57,119 Yeah, and even today neighbors claim the house make strange sounds and they 544 00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:01,079 can hear the cries and screams of children in the palace is closed, So 545 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,920 what is it now? Can you tour? Yeah, it's a museum. 546 00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,280 Oh okay, you probably said it and I missed it. Then that was 547 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,320 my next sentence ahead and said it. Yet Yeah, it's open to visitors. 548 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,239 It was closed for a little bit in twenty twenty because of the pandemic, 549 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,840 and then after in twenty twenty one it opened only on Sundays. But 550 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,239 now it's opened every day from two to ten pm. And it's a museum. 551 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,320 You can go look at the cause. Again, there's beautiful paintings. 552 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,960 It was the same guy who did those Pio paintings. So yeah, that's 553 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,920 what it is today, Okay, And I have one more. Do you 554 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,800 have time? I do have time. Okay. So this other place, 555 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:44,519 the last one we're doing, is known as La Casa del Trebol Negro or 556 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,679 Clover Lawn or what clover clover? Oh okay, yeah, clover Lawn, 557 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,119 and it's located in Colonia Americana, in Guadalajara. I don't think I've been 558 00:40:54,199 --> 00:41:00,480 in that area. No, the name clover Lawn, it comes from an 559 00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,280 engraved like the fence. The entrance to the house is engraved and it says 560 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,280 clover Lawn on it. Oh and then that translated is Trebon Negro. Okay, 561 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,079 so it was. It was built by Lord Duncan Cameron, a minor 562 00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:19,159 member of British nobility. I don't know him. So sounds like a colonizer. 563 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,159 Oh, one hundred percent. The only thing I know about British nobility 564 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,960 comes from when I edit Vulgar History podcast. Oh yeah, so I don't 565 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,519 know much about them. So each room has a hand painted black clover in 566 00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:37,079 it because Lord Duncan wanted his family to remember their heritage when they were in 567 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:44,400 this land that is not theirs. He then had his oldest son, George 568 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,920 Duncan, mary a Mexican woman named Rosefina Rivera. She was the daughter of 569 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,880 a wealthy family from Durango. They got married, they had four kids, 570 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:59,639 and a legend tells that for some unknown reason, the daughter, their eldest 571 00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:05,840 teenage daughter, died by suicide in her own bedroom. And after this happened, 572 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,519 Hostefina took the kids and left George. We don't know why that happened, 573 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:16,039 according to legend. Okay, the after she left, George let the 574 00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:21,679 house go into disarray, and then he eventually died. The next owner about 575 00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:27,280 the house with the hopes of restoring it, but then it never happened, 576 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,079 and instead he snapped for some reason and killed his entire family and then himself. 577 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,840 The next owner, the next owner, Yes, wow, what the 578 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:42,239 have Yeah, sounds like it's something in the place, okay, right right, 579 00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:45,719 and I'm sorry. You might be able to hear Sammy a little bit 580 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,639 the outside. Yeah, Yeah, he's outside the door trying to come in. 581 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,840 We'll just yeah, we'll just have to live with that. Power through 582 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,599 yeah, power through thank you. In the house, there's a fountain with 583 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,519 four children in it, and it said that those were George Sunkin's kids, 584 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:07,119 like they inspired the fountain, and there's no stories of the fountain, the 585 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,679 kids coming to life, or anything like that, which I think would have 586 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:14,559 been great for me. Yeah, but there is a rumor, an urban 587 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:20,599 legend that one of the schools in the fountain is real. Yeah. Wow, 588 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,800 I don't think it's true. It's a fun like little urban legend, 589 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:29,000 but very creepy. According to neighbors and eyewitnesses. In the early hours of 590 00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:32,719 the morning, one can hear hear screams coming from the house and see shadows 591 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,719 through the windows. A woman in white has been seen lurking around the property 592 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,920 at night as well, and according to some people, blood oozes out of 593 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,159 the walls. Yikes. And yeah, people avoid the area the house, 594 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,360 they walk around it if they have to walk on the street across the other 595 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,760 side. Makes sense. And yeah, that was La Casa, the Negro, 596 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:01,000 the Clover Lawn house. Do you know if you're remains like empty still 597 00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:07,199 or what I think? So it's not like a place open to the public 598 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,599 like the other places, like they're not museums or anything. Oh okay, 599 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:16,039 mm hmm, So yeah, I think it remains close interesting. Interesting. 600 00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:21,400 So yeah, that brings us to the end of the episode. What a 601 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:27,480 fun episode. I have been waiting for an episode like this for a long 602 00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,159 time. Me too, Me too. I still like the other episode, 603 00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:34,360 so I'm not gonna I don't want you to think that I don't. No, 604 00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:37,079 I do too. But it's been a while since we did this. 605 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,760 Yeah, yeah, so yeah, we went back to our roots for this 606 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:51,159 one. Anyway, before we go, any spooky recommendations, Nope, no, 607 00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:55,000 okay, yeah no. I haven't really listened to anything or watch anything 608 00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:00,480 new since the last time we recorded, so no, okay. I'm trying 609 00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:04,840 to think if I did, but I don't think I have either. I 610 00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:10,320 have been working, I've been busy. I've been busy writing episodes of horror 611 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:15,079 Story. I do recommend that it's very fun. We just did Sorry you 612 00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:21,280 can hear My Child. We just did one on Linda Vista Hospital and there 613 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,119 was a couple of creepy stories I came across that I had not heard about 614 00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:27,559 the hospital, so that was very fun. I recommend it because they're creepy. 615 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,039 I'm gonna check it out. I haven't listened to this week's or the 616 00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:34,719 most recent episode. I mean, m yeah, you should. It's good. 617 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,920 It's a good one. But I think that's probably my only recommendation, 618 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,400 because yeah, I haven't been watching or doing anything because I had no free 619 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,159 time. I guess I don't know what I've been doing. Oh you know 620 00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,199 what, it's because I've been whenever I do have free time, I've been 621 00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:52,880 listening to the Bones Booth podcast. That's why I'm on season five of their 622 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,920 recap episodes. Now, wow, wow, I don't know what I've been 623 00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:02,760 listening to. Randomally, I was because so I've only been I was listening 624 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,559 last time recommended the book No My Name, and I haven't even listened that 625 00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:13,480 much to that. I still have, I mean, like the last chapter 626 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,559 and I haven't I've only listened to a little bit of it. So I'm 627 00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:17,840 like trying to think of what I've been listening to and I don't really even 628 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,440 know. But I was driving the other day and then randomly, like I 629 00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:27,000 hadn't even opened or I opened Spotify, but I hadn't clicked on an episode 630 00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:29,960 it or not and usually it plays the last thing I listened to, and 631 00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:35,719 it randomly started playing el episode of Estodia's Unknown. Wow. Weird, like 632 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,760 a sign from the universe, And I was like, I was like, 633 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,159 I think the universe is telling me that I need to listen to this again, 634 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,039 and so I did. Yeah, it's so depressing but important, And 635 00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:49,280 that's the most recent thing I listened to. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, 636 00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:52,159 sounds a wite right. Anyway, on that note, to check out 637 00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:57,679 our history podcast called The Estodias Unknown, where we talk about Latin American history, 638 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,920 sometimes horrible things like massacres, other times happier things like heroic dogs, 639 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,800 but all Latin American more often than not horrible things. So yeah, yeah, 640 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:15,159 that's true. We also have a tele novela I mean rewatch podcasts where 641 00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:20,559 we rewatch episodes of TETSA and recap them, laugh, admire, have fun, 642 00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:23,719 yeah, have fun. Yeah. And then we also gossip gossip about 643 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,079 internet things at the end of that, and you can find that on YouTube. 644 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:30,280 I've been forgetting to add the links. We accidentally had a video go 645 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,639 set my Meani tiny viral and I did not like it. I almost was 646 00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:38,920 like, should we just not do this anymore? It was scary, Honestly, 647 00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:44,519 I'm like, let's give up. Yeah, I had the same thoughts. 648 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,320 We talked about girl defined and if you know, you know, there's 649 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:52,639 no time to explain. Yeah, yeah, funny thing. I need to 650 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,320 talk about defund the's again next time. So, oh, I'm so scary. 651 00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:01,599 I'm sorry. I can't stop anyway. That that is on YouTube. 652 00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:07,559 You can find it chronically online. Con that's our YouTube Internet cheez my podcast. 653 00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:13,599 Yes, I'm scared to do sometimes it is scary. You can also 654 00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:16,519 find us as Spooky Tails on YouTube. Some other newer videos will be on 655 00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:21,159 there, and or the newer videos are on there. And I've been meaning 656 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,079 to record some other things. That's just me, but it just hasn't happened. 657 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,880 We will do our book club our episode soon. I have not written 658 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,599 it. Oh my god, I'm so sorry to everyone. Our next book 659 00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:42,039 club episode is Vampires of norte By. And yeah, on that note, 660 00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:45,559 we will end the episode. I guess watch out for a little red haired 661 00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:49,039 boy. If a little red hair boy beckons you into a room, do 662 00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:53,119 not follow. Don't follow Benito. Don't follow Benito. No, only Benito 663 00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:58,400 to follow is bad, bunny. Except when you was talking shit about Elogi, 664 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,440 I don't like that. He's done a lot of problematic things we can't 665 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,360 get into right now. Yeah, yeah, that's the least of it. 666 00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:10,440 Probably, Like that time he said that people from Ada that they can't dance. 667 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,400 Oh I didn't even know he said that, yeah, and then he 668 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,880 went and got with Kendall Jenner right, oh yeah, yeah Candelada as they 669 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,119 were calling her. Yes, yes, and famously can't dance. So yeah 670 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:29,119 yeah. So anyway, no time, you gotta go, stay spooky and 671 00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:36,119 we'll catch everyone next time. Bye bye. Spooky Tales is hosted by Christina 672 00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:40,360 and MJ, produced and edited by Christina. Everything is written and researched by 673 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,159 Christina MJ and with the help of Don Shout Out Don. Thank you so 674 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,599 much for your help. 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