Welcome, Welcome to Lighting All broadcasting live from a shack on a hill in
the Mossy Creek bottoms of Kane Creek, Arkansas. This is Lighting the Void
Live now. I'm your host, Joe Rupen. We're live on the Fringe
FM. It is Thursday. It's Thursday, right, there's a Wednesday.
I don't even know a date. It's Thursday the second, and we're gonna
finish strong. Speaking of finishing strong, our boys in trouble, one of
our very own Void Walkers, first Void Walker that is, is in trouble
and he needs your help. Now. We need your help to to make
sure that we hit our goals this month. But we're not in pain.
The website was down just for a little bit, but we hit We barely
hit our goal. Uh, we've been barely and the goal we've been catching
up every month thanks to you guys. You guys are freaking awesome actually,
and the hosts on the station, big shout out to Dance and Dave.
But our boys in trouble, give me a second. I just spilled coffee
all over myself while that intro was going on. I was running around here.
I had to change my shirt it's nasty. So you guys remember Pacho,
right, if you've been listening to the show, Pacho the uh our
number one producer. Well, he's the only producer of the show that ever
had that was booking guests and doing all kinds of stuff back when Lighting the
Void was in its heyday. It well, let's say it reached a peak.
We were peaking. Do you know why. You know why we were
peaking. We were peaking because of Pacho, because of Patrick Mulin. And
so this guy is in trouble and he needs our help. His leg.
He was out skiing with his partner and he's been living it up and he
busted his leg. So he's trying to raise like four grand at to fix
his leg. I have the link. I'll drop it in the chat.
But if you go to gofund me and you go to just search Patrick Newlan,
that's n E W L I N where he could also put in knee
and leg recovery. It's got a picture of him and his partner on the
the ski slopes there. Pacho, He's he's down for the count. His
legs all busted up and he needs our help. Other than that, you
know, comes with the territory as much skin as this guy's been doing,
I would think. But it looks like some of the people that I know
have already donated, like Cindy, Katie, Danielle Monica donated a little bit.
So we only have to raise sixty five more dollars to be caught up
for the month. So any donations that you guys donate towards the Fringe FM
will donate we'll fix. So it'll be half and half until we get past
the sixty five. And if you donate anything, I would say for the
next week to the Fringe FM, we're going to give that to Pacho.
We just got to hit that sixty five, that's all. But you know,
I'm pretty sure he's going to get back on the ski slopes and get
back up and at it if I know him. So he says here,
I mean, this is one of our own I gotta do it. I
gotta do it, So he says here. I recently took a trip to
the Moon and my return to Earth was a bit of a crash landing.
I was injured while skiing at home a little over a week ago, and
my right knee sustained strained ligaments and torn cartilage, with possible muscle tears in
my lower leg and bruised heel. Recovery's looking promising, hopefully without surgery if
things go well. I'm now able to walk a little bit again unassisted,
and the swelling and bruising seems to be running its course. I feel very
fortunate that things were not worse and that overall I'm okay. My partner Meg,
also injured her leg in the process of trying to help me during the
accident. God what a lucky guy, who to find me a girl like
that? But she injured herself trying to help him, and uh has I'm
just kidding. I'm just joking, get myself in trouble here and has some
partial terrors in her calf muscle. Her recovery is looking good as well.
But adding to the complexity of things, we are pregnant and expecting a little
girl. Oh why didn't you tell me that? Dude? You should have
messaged me that. Pacho congrats bro, so he's saying. And being laid
up has affected some things at home. So our friends and family have been
supportive and helpful this past week, and we're very grateful. I am familiar
with the healing journey, but this time around, I was not prepared for
the financial side of things. I'm having to take at least a couple of
weeks off from work and have started physical therapy. So he says, it
feels a little weird asking for donations for money, but I also understand how
this feels for other people when they're in times of need, and I try
to give when I can. Thank you so much for any type of help
and support, even if it's just sending some good thoughts. So at the
very least, end Paco some good thoughts, and if you've got something to
help out, you can go straight there and donate if you want, or
you can just if you donate to the Fringe FM, we'll split it up
until we hit our sixty five and then any of that other stuff will go
straight to him. Listen, like Navier donated towards him too, so he's
raised it looks like nine hundred dollars so far. That's why I don't go
out in the cold. Man, I just don't do it. I don't
do it. Michael says, I'm going to donate tomorrow. Brother, thanks
man, you donate a lot. We appreciate that. We really do.
Bro, You're a big help, you and Genevieve both. So here's the
thing. We gotta do it. We got to We're known here. We
start strong, we come out the gate strong. But we got to finish
this O'Ryan thing. We have to. We can't get down to the end
of it and then be like, okay, whatever, even though I've probably
mocked forty percent of the book at least. So if you're just tuning in
and this is the first time that you've tuned into this, whether it's on
the station, the podcast, or YouTube, and this is all about some
kind of weird matrix system that Wes Penry has talked about. It's another one
of these don't go to the light. It's a trick kind of thing.
So he wrote a book called the Oriyan Book, and we've been dabbling with
it throughout the history of the show for the past month or so and so
far, what he's told us is that the god of this world is Inky,
Loose and Uriel are pretty much the same thing. They're all the same
being, and that we're in a matrix that Lucifer created and the real god
is a queen. Actually the Queen of Orion, and then if there's a
big portion of the book where he talks about narcissists and things like that,
so kind of goes along with the times, doesn't it so much relationship drama
on Facebook and social media nowadays? Now it's you know, you pick up
a book and try to figure out what happens after we die because Gareth reachs
down to us about it, and it's like there's projections of that stuff in
here. So but with the poll on YouTube, I did a poll on
YouTube and I asked you listeners, if you die and you are aware of
a grid that's around the earth, and you're aware of this thing, are
you still going to go to the light knowing that the light is more comfortable?
Right? So, when you die, you come out of body and
you look up and you see a light tunnel. But if you look to
your left or wherever else and you see a grid with a hole in it,
do you do what Wes is telling you to do? Do you go
through the grid? Do you go through the hole in the grid, or
do you just go to the tunnel? And I thought most people are going
to be like, man, I'm going through the light tunnel. But no,
most of you said, matter of fact, I don't have the percentage
pulled up with me right now. But most of you said that you're going
to go to the hole in the grid. You're going to try to escape.
So we're going to pick up where we left off how to exit.
A step by step method on how to exit, according to west Penry.
So, I've got my coffee, I've got my nicotine. Are you all
ready for this? What's up? Jin, sir Wolf, scruffy beer,
barefoot hippies. I wouldn't mind reincarnating a few thousand more times. See,
I'm with you on that one. Most people are like, oh, I
want to get the hell up on out of here, man, you know,
like I like life, man. I mean, there's some sucky things
about it, and then they're sucky people, but there's so many good things
about it. Maybe I'm a maybe I'm not an old soul. Maybe I'm
just a baby yet when it comes to that, so I want to stay
here. I want to go to the beach. Man. Don't want to
eat food. I want to fall in love. I want to see sunsets.
I want to you know, have life and light and it just sucks
that we have to forget every time, doesn't it? Another question too?
If you could come back and reincarnate at any age, what age would that
be? What age would you you reincarnate because I don't want to go through
the baby thing and crap my pants, and you know, like I would
like to reincarnate at about the age thirteen, just come back and be thirteen
years old. Probably might reincarnate into a worse place. Maybe. I think
that depends on the life you live. Honestly, you could reincarnate, like
if you're a snake your whole life and you're just snaky towards people, you
could reincarnate into like a king snake or something, or even worse, a
poisonous snake and everybody wants to kill you, and then you have to like
truly be a bastard to eat your food. So here's the list. Number
One, when your body dies, your avatar will leave your physical body and
the silver cord that connects your body with the avatar will burst. I know
nothing of a silver cord, never seen it, don't know anything about it.
Number two, as soon as you understand you are dead, immediately look
up with your dead body as a reference. So orientate yourself from your dead
body that you find right and then look straight up from it. You will
now have a three hundred and sixty vision, but you need to look upward
and there you will see the fuzzy grid with holes in it number three.
At any time during the procedure of exiting, if things get unclear are too
fuzzy, execute the command inside your head. Clarity now. Sounds like William
Buelman, doesn't it. That's what he says. Then everything will be clear.
Even if you can't see the grid for any reason. Think grid to
clarity now. And if you can see the grid but not the holes,
think holes in the grid. Clarity now. You will then see a grid
that almost looks like a Swiss cheese thingy, and you can randomly pick up
one of the holes or pick out one of the holes and concentrate on it.
Then you think to your I'm with the highest aspect of myself on the
other side of the grid. Now, and before you realize it, or
before you realize what happened, you have withdrawn yourself from the matrix and you're
out of the Earth construct and will automatically be reconnected with your spirit body because
you have withdrawn from your energy from the construct. This sounds completely why I
could do. Folks. I'm just telling you, Okay, you are now
a whole three U see again. You might find yourself in the solar system,
but don't linger there because this is still Lucifer's domain and you want to
go somewhere as safe. You may also notice you are rusty when it comes
to moving around with your thought because you're not used to such a fast response
when you think of something, and if you notice, you fly to here
and there like a leaf in the wind. Stop your thoughts and focus on
not to move for a while until you get the hang of it. And
if you get lost, you can think yourself back to where you started.
So before we get to number five, I'll say this. I remember when
I was a kid. I used to flop around all the time out of
body, like I would have nightmares. I hadn't had nightmares since I was
a child, though, but I would just feel like I was flying out
of control, and I could feel it in my stomach, like something was
just slinging me around, like I was on some kind of roller coaster ride
at the fair or something. I remember those feelings, so he's you know,
that's the only thing I can relate to is what he's talking about.
There. Number five, I will personally think myself to the Queen so she
can assist me and tell me what to do next. It's like a reunion
leading to the final separation from the mother. So I'll utter the command inside
me. I am with the highest possible incarnation of the Queen of the stars
now, and that should take you to her, and she'll be glad to
see you because you are her only in a smaller version, but you do
have her potentials. And as mentioned above, at any time, if something
is unclear, think the command clarity now. It has proven to help those
who practice out of body techniques. You see that I'm using the word now
and all commands to make certain they get executed immediately. We can all decide
how fast do we want to move from A to B by thinking the corresponding
thought in our head, whether we want to go fast or slow. This
may come in handy if you are sight seeing. You could come up with
any command in your head you wish, depending on what you wish and want,
so long as it's executable. For example, I want to go to
the Milky Way galaxy or I want to go to the Milky Way Galactic Center.
Now I'm not so sure you want to do that immediately, but it's
just and it's a possible thing to do. It's just a matter of focus.
Many of us humans can be scatter headed. Scatter headed you mean scatter
brained, which is something we should work on while we're still alive. When
we leave the matrix, we want to make sure we can at least keep
a thought and intention long enough for a command to be executed, and be
able to restrain ourselves from thinking outwardly without boundaries. Otherwise we will find ourselves
all over the place until we've learned how to focus. It is imperative that
you do not engage with anybody while you're finding your way out of the grid.
I understand it might be hard if your deceased why her husband approaches you
and says your name, Maybe they're even crying or happy to see you.
Don't fall for it. It's not real, and if you fall for it,
you might miss your chance. So we are back to focus. Don't
pay attention to anything or anybody in the astral after your death. Only concentrate
on going through the grid. Yeah, but what if you're wrong and it
is like your dead lover or family member and you're like, nope, nope,
I know you're fake. This' all these stuff gives me the hebgb's a
little bit. Oh, that's that dark roast. There is also another person,
a good friend of mine named guy who is a member of our forum
where we discuss matters like this, and he wrote an exit handout. They
have handouts. They got a little handout community What's Up Karma describing the exit
procedure and as many significant details as possible. And I think it can be
very useful for many people. It can be downloaded for free on my blog
and I think that's it Wespenry dot com. I suggest you download it and
read it. It will give you some good tips because he covers many angles
of the exit process. All right, quick question forever you guys that are
listening, and if you're not participating in the chat or calling in or whatever,
I would like you to at least answer yes or no. You don't
have to, but here's a quick question. If this guy Wes who claims
to know what happens after we die and it's all a big trick, and
he has this inside source that he won't reveal. But it's not an alien,
but it is an alien. Whatever. If this guy was happy with
his life, let's just say he was happy, he was in a healthy,
loving relationship, which we know he is not because he's wrote twelve pages
about narcissists. But if he was happy, do you think he would be
writing the same book? Yes or no? I'm voting no. We'll tell
Maria. I want to repeat myself and make the exit procedure even simpler.
Here are steps one through five above without any extra explanation. Only strip down.
It's a stripped down version. Number one, your body dies and the
silver cord breaks. Number two. Look up with your dead body as a
reference, and you'll see the grid in the holes. Number three. If
anything is unclear confusing, think clarity. Now number four, think yourself outside
the grid by going through the hole, I'm with the highest aspect of myself
on the other side of the grid. Now number five, think I am
with the highest possible incarnation of the Queen of the stars. Now you don't
need to complicate your thoughts. Or one hundred percent be one hundred percent perfect
with your commands, because even if you use a wrong word somewhere, you'll
have the intention worked out inside yourself before you died. So let's say you
want to go to the highest possible aspect of yourself, but you forget and
only think, I want to go to the aspect of myself. But your
mind still knows what you mean, because it knows your real incarnation or your
real intention, not incarnation. So there are three things you need to combine
to get the best results when you execute your commands. And for many of
us, these three things will happen automatically, but I still want to mention
them. Number one imagination You imagine the outcome in your mind. For example,
you imagine yourself outside the grid before you are there. Number two intention
You need a clear intention that this is what you want. You can't be
in doubt about it. It won't work. And number three thought execute the
command in your mind. Some souls don't need to do this. It's enough
to set the intention and they are on the other side. They think in
packages rather than words, and all they need to do is spot hole on
the grid, and before you know it, they're on the other side.
The intention to go there without a conscious thought about it will work for some.
All Right, we got four no's count in mine. See that's or
no, Genevieve said nope twice. Yeah, see, so we got three
no's. Usually, let's be honest, people that come into this realm of
the spirituality and with this kind of or I guess you could say woke crowd,
metaphysical, spiritual et community, whatever you want to call it. Well,
we just call it void walking here. But a lot of people come
here not because they're super passionate or interested in these subjects, but because they
have really no happy intimate life, Like they're not finding happiness in other people.
That's just a fact. I'm just telling you the facts. Okay.
So even a lot of people come to spirituality, period, religion, all
kinds of things because they're not finding fulfillment in other people. And then once
they once they realize that it's not going to happen, then there's like a
lot of weird psychological stuff that I won't get into that happens. And so
they come to spirit and so they start understand that's how I came to it.
I'm just being honest with you, Like that's exactly how I came to
it, and then you start to work on this relationship with this higher you,
and then it really doesn't matter in the end, even though you would
like to have better relationships with people, you have a little bit more self
security and yourself because you have a good connection with yourself and your spirit.
That's the idea anyways, But as I get older, it's really transitioned into
just being curious about most of the stuff. Okay, but think about what
he says here, imagination, intention, and thought those last three steps.
If he just did this stuff in his earth life, if he used his
imagination, Let's say he used his imagination to follow his dreams and he imagined
the outcome in his mind. Just what we do we create a visualization,
set your intention, and then executed the plan of it. His life might
have been different. He might not have wrote this book. Oh cool,
Thanks for the supersticker, Jen, Thank you, thank you, Wow,
thank you for that. Really appreciate it. Thought packages thinking in concepts.
Let us discuss the term thought packages. Using this method can be helpful for
those who are more secure and trust themselves, and it excludes much of what
I just went through about exiting no need to memorize any For some people know
words or commands are necessary. You plan everything already now, so you know
what to do, but you don't rehearse any commands. You simply have the
concept of what you're going to do, and when the day comes, you
just look up, spot the grid, focus on a whole, and then
there it is. It's just this concept in your mind. You simply just
know what to do. You might see a flash of a picture in your
mind that you're on the other side of the grid, or you might see
nothing at all in your mind. Next you're on the other side. Then
let's say you want to go to the queen. You don't even need to
think any words, just a quick thought thinking about the concept of the queen,
and you'll be with her. Your mind already knows what to do.
And if you fall under this category, by all means use it. I
will personally use this method. But it also it is also the way many
or most star beings communicate in the ka and he spells ka KAA. They
communicate in thought packages or in concepts. Then they send the entire package to
the receiver in one go, no linear time involved, just bang like a
zip file that the receiver automatically will un zip, and people who have had
OBEs describe how soul minds out there communicate this way. See this is so,
this is what keeps me interested in this book because what he just said
right there I agree with because I've had that experience too. It's where when
people talk about downloads and you get this bigger truth that has all these other
little bitty truths kind of like in a zip file that represent the same thing.
Yeah. I've had one of those a few times. So is that
all we got is just a few votes? You guys don't follow directions very
well. Genevieve and Michael are the only ones that voted. Of course,
Karma is going to give this big complicated answer. Where's the yes or no?
I'll ask the question again if you if you if this guy that wrote
this book that's talking about escaping the matrix, Okay, if this guy had
a happy life barefoot hippies, what did you vote? I'm curious too to
see what you voted. No, that's good, so that's four nos.
Sorry I missed you on that one. If this guy had a happy life,
what do you have written this book? What do you be talking about
escaping the matrix at all star Seed Awakening, I just got here, dude.
Okay, well I'm do you get do you get the question? Maybe
if y'all can help him with that question, star Seed's cool you said yes
basically. Okay, so we got four no's on one yes, five nose
they're scruffy. I totally agree, man, Like, this is a this
is what if you're wrong? Man? What if you go through the grid?
What if this alien's tricking you or your inside info guy really wants you
to go through the grid because there's something up there that's like a sick joke
or that's where they really suck your energy, and you're supposed to go through
the light tunnel, and then you don't talk to your relatives that want to
talk to you because you think they're fake and all this other stuff. Can
you imagine that? Can you imagine just being this like untrusting? I want
to do a whole show about trusting one day, if I can make it
fun instead of deep and philosophical. But can you imagine just being this untrusting,
being like all the time, even after you're dead. That sounds like
a nightmare to me. Maria says, no, Aussey girl, no,
if he were living the good life exactly. See. So what does that
say about people that want to escape this place? Think about it. I
mean we only get a short time here anyways, it's very short. I
still feel eighteen years old. No, but Tiffany must have just gone here.
What's up, Tiffany? What's up? So he says what to do
if everything goes wrong? I seriously doubt any of the following will happen,
but let's cover all angles just in case everything goes to shit. Right,
Let's pretend you, for any reason can't locate the grid and you feel stuck.
Of course, the first thing to do is to think a command,
for example, grid clarity now, and you'll see it and you'll be there.
If you've got a story to share, you should call and I want
to hear it, Genevieve. If you know that, you better actually let
me move the phones over here so I can see them too. Sometimes it'll
ring and I and I don't hear it, and then other times there we
go. Okay, So if everything goes wrong and I'm going through the hole
on the grid now and swoosh, you're out of the matrix. Wait,
wait, did I just miss my Did I lose my spot when I was
moving the phones? Dude? That sucks. Here we go and you feel
stuck. Okay, the first thing to do is think in that command.
But let's say you somehow end up in the tunnel and you go to the
recycling center and the Between Lives world worker tells you this or that, and
let's say they tell you that you need to reincarnate again. And all you
need to do, once you have overcome your fear and uncertainties, and anytime
during the process is to completely ignore whoever is in front of you and think
inside yourself grid clarity. Now. Then you'll be in front of the grid.
You'll see the holes, choose one at random and think, I'm going
through the hole in the grid now, and swoosh your out of the matrix
and whatever happens. And if you follow this advice, you will immediately transport
yourself from the Between Lives area to the grid, even though you consciously don't
even know where the grid is. The same thing applies in the following situation.
Let's pretend you're communicating with a Between Lives area worker and you say you
don't want to follow their instructions to reincarnate or whatever it could be, because
you open a conversation with them, which you're not supposed to do, but
let's say you did according to Wes, and then they see that as a
consent to manipulate you, so they try to convince you that you need to
stay in the matrix. They may even tell you that exiting through the grid
is not possible, and if you still insist there's not much they can do,
one of two things may happen. One they tell you to do whatever
you want and throw you out so you can exit through the grid. Or
two, they tell you that you can do whatever you want, but they
will leave you wherever you are, and you tell them you don't know where
you are and how to find the grid, and they will tell you it's
not their problem, and if you're panicking, you might not know what to
do and give in to them and then beg them to recycle you. This
sounds freaking nuts, However, all you need to do, wherever you are,
and regardless of how confused you feel, is to say the command to
yourself grid clarity now, and you'll be there in less than a seconds.
I think that's Genevieve. Probably let me make sure I got you on the
right line here. You are you on the air with Genevieve? Can you
hear me? Yeah? Yeah? Hi everyone, Okay, Hi, I
just thought I had to share the story that seems a popoe for this evening.
So let me gather my thoughts. Okay, So we're talking about dead
relatives coming to get to get you. So I haven't died yet personally,
so I don't know if how this story, if it's true or not.
But okay, we we lost my mother in law two years ago now,
and she had cancer. And what happened was the day that she died,
that she was dying, her sister in law, my aunt in law,
was waking up in the morning and her brother who had passed on the year
before, so my father in law he came, he stormed into her room.
So he's dead. But like the way she tells the story is he
stormed into the room calling for Linda, who is who was passing away that
day. And she said it was just the strangest thing is my brother just
stormed into the room calling for Linda. That is that like, that's such
an interesting part of that story because it's like this didn't even happen to somebody
who was like, we don't know what was happening with Linda because she had
basically gone into a coma type of thing. So but he he was he
was apparent to my aunt in law, who who doesn't really talk about that
kind of thing because she's a scientist, and you know, that's kind of
rue for her. But she said that it was so weird that he just
came into the room like that, like she's having like a hypnagogic type vision,
I think the way she said it. So that's the first story,
and then the other story that about dead relatives. That kind of makes me
wonder if dead relatives do come back to us because two actually. The one
was my aunt who passed away and she was a dressmaker, so she made
wedding dresses and that type of thing. And about a month after she passed
away, I got I had to dream about her, and she came to
me in dream and she was she was a younger version of herself, and
she was she was wearing a new she was showing me that she had made
this new coat for herself, which I kind of think it was sort of
symbolic of her being in a and in a new state type of thing.
So it was just sort of like I'm happier now I'm you know, so
I think her relatives you come back to us. For sure. My grandfather
he had Parkinson's disease, and I dreamt about him, and he came back
and he was sitting upright, and he was doing like really well. He
looked so much better. Like so it wasn't like I was like imagining him
to be so much better. They just came back to say goodbye. I
think. So it's not so even what you're saying there is like Aaron Hoffman
says, nope, thanks for the vote. See, man, these people
get it. So you to say that all of this stuff is fake when
you die, your relatives and all these things that you experience are fake,
how is that possible? Right? So it's like counter directive to it's counter
what's the word for it, I don't know the wordive? Counterintuitive. So
but to say that, yeah, we're all connected consciously on some level,
we know that, but then the people that were connected with to the closest
in our lives, those images that we see, even if we're projecting those
images. We're projecting that part of us anyways, So how is it fake?
Well, I would rather have like somebody comforting around me than not know
where I'm going next, like even if it's going back to the light and
the slave trade or whatever. But I mean to me, like the Book
of the Dead, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, I've we've only read
it very superficially, but one of the things they do talk about is that
we escort our people who are dying, like we're there with them to talk
to them, to help them see these states of and clarity. I would
rather have somebody talking me through it, right, because it's a it's a
big thing. And I just think if you can, like your imagination can
create anything in the ass. Oh well wow, you know, if you're
scared, what are you going to think the most horrific things? Then you're
going to go right down to where you don't want to go. Yeah,
And even the Monroe Institute has helped people pass through like they I don't know
if you remember when we did that show where the kid was in that shipwreck
and he was stuck kind of they're still afraid and they were they were helping
him. They let him know that, you know, he was going to
be okay. And he said, oh, I can see my mom and
my dad and stuff. And he's like, go on and go to them,
like he was stuck between worlds, you know, like right, And
I just want to I just wanted to say that because like it was such
a reinforcement of like if it had been anybody, like anybody else, like
she's so pragmatic about things like it just would surprise me. She wouldn't just
come up and say stuff like that. She's not into any of that stuff
at all. She's not even religious. She is a little bit, but
she's not like she doesn't talk about anything. Wu. So the fact that
she had that story to me was a very a very good story because she
just wasn't the kind of person to talk right about that stuff like or make
it up. So I should go because you're telling her you're working hard on
this, but I just want to share that. And thank you so much.
No, thanks for calling in and kind of verifying a couple of things
with us there. It's very interesting. Thanks Genevieve, Thank you. Have
a good night. On a pop flist. We'll talk through the chat.
I just got a point though, like I don't you know, even if
I'm going probably through the light tunnel, call me crazy, but I'm going
through the tunnel whatever. I think, we'll all kind of know what to
do, you know. But he's saying once again in here that to avoid
any bad scenario when you die, don't talk to anybody. Avoid people at
all costs. Do not communicate with anyone in the astral on your way out,
and if someone communicates with you, ignore them and just execute your commands.
The only thing the overlords and the elite see in this well, he
says, I've given you some scenarios from the top of my head, but
the bottom line is that you're in control of your own mind, and the
only thing the overlords, the elite, or anyone else can do to control
you is to let them get access to your mind and manipulate control it.
If you refuse to let them do that and put up a firm boundary,
there's absolutely nothing they can do. I would say this too, Wes.
If you did that in your life earlier, you might have realized that there's
not so many overlords and elite that are out to get you. They're not
really out to get you. It's just like it's all money on the earth
man, that's all it is. It's just a bunch of people that want
power and money and they do try to manipulate you, and if you let
them, then you know that's your fault. I mean, I'm just saying,
doesn't make everything so dramatic, and I'm not agreeing with it at all.
I'm just saying, that's mainly what's running the world here is just money
and power. Let's get real, So break the mind control on the programming
and you're free to do whatever you want. They have no power over you.
The same goes for narcissistic relationships. Oh we didn't even make it to
three four pages before he brought this up again. The reason narcissists can control
us is because we don't say no. Say no to abuse of people without
hesitation, and there is nothing they can do. They will leave you alone.
You know, when I grew up in the eighties, it was just
say no to drugs, and in the nineties I think it was just say
no to school itself, and then two thousands it's whatever. Now it's the
past ten years is the War on narcissism. So you got all these narcissists
telling everybody that they're narcissistic victims. This still annoys me. Even after this.
I'm gonna ignore it. Though this is a question many people have asked
me. What can we expect an Orian? How will are lies be better
there? I will use what I wrote in the West Pennery papers, and
I also dug into my archives to see if I could get additional information.
We who leave the Matrix one by one will already be creator gods, as
I've explained, but we never graduated from Tiamot. Instead, the experiment was
destroyed less than midway through. Although we are potentially full fledged creator gods,
we can't go from the Matrix to creating galaxies. That would be too much
of a leap. I was told. And he won't tell us who's telling
him this stuff, by the way, but I was told there are universities
in Orion where souls can study what they want or need to study, and
different star systems are set up with different universities on different topics, so you
can pick one and learn more on a subject. They have like hogwarts in
Matrix Land in Orion, but you don't even need to be a creator god,
at least not to begin with. Some might want to browse around the
universe and explore, which is also something that you can do. You can
make friends with Ka BEINGSAA, create together with other creator gods or alone.
If we want to work as creator gods, we learn over time and get
more and more skilled. We learn how to best create with our minds and
manifest our creations in the ka, making it as real as anything created with
technology. That's how Tiamat was created, using many creator gods in the process,
all being experts in their field. The only reason I can see why
regular soul minds did not get spirits attached to begin with was because the queen
wanted soul minds to develop first and gain the responsibility needed to become a creator
god. It became an evolutionary thing. I think that makes a lot of
sense. Wes. I don't think. I think you're making this up because
it makes sense to you, and you're blaming it on an insider that you
can't tell us who it is. Produce the insider and I will. I
will come out and say not that I matter at all, But if you
did, I would say, man, I was totally wrong. I've got
an insider that tells me things. You will learn to communicate in concept.
It will apparently come automatically. After a while. You will set up invisible
boundaries for yourself so other star beings can't read every thought you think. First,
you might be surprised when someone tries to talk to you and you both
lack a physical body. Suddenly an entire concept comes into your mind see thought
packages above. It's not linear. There are no words, only pictures and
a concept. The star being communicates their entire message it wants for you to
receive. Then you learn to do the same back to them. It's instant
and includes no time consuming linear thoughts. This is being done on Earth too.
There are a few people who can receive thought packages from entities in the
astral They call it data dumping. One such person is Asian and Diann,
and another person calls himself the Galactic Historian. I know who that dude is,
the Galactic Historian. They both spread similar information, so I would suspect
that they have the same source called the Guardian Alliance and Missus Dean's books and
lectures. You will always think yourself to your destination and Once you know where
to go, you'll travel on the cosmic highways or the spider web of energy
currents and spiritual cosmic waves. Excuse me, spiritual cosmic waves that will take
you to where you need to go in no time. This is what is
called nanotravel. Therefore, there are no long distances to overcome, and everything
is just a thought away. Sometimes you may need a star map to get
an overview of where you want to go, but such maps are available.
Trade is common in the Ka and in the lower Kaw dimensions. Star beings
are Racists travel between stars and constellations on these cosmic highways and trade goods.
This is before the souls attained spirit enough to create with their minds and can
manifest what they need. Although there are wars and conflicts in some regions of
the Ka, again in the lower regions, it's not as common as it
might have sounded in this book. We just happen to be in a zone
sector nine where all these unfortunate things happened. Do you guys get that we're
in sector nine? Do you think this guy was? We should do another
vote. Do you think Wes Penry was a treky or a star Wars guy,
I'm going to say, Treky, we just happen to be in Zone
Sector nine where all these unfortunate things happened, and we ended up in the
middle of a huge family feud. In the KA, we are free and
we don't need to participate in any conflicts unless we absolutely want to. So
a bigger question would be if Wes is to if all of this is true
and we go to Oriyan and that's really where heaven is, do we keep
all of our memories? Do we forget who we are? I'm struggling with
the queen thing me too. I don't think, Yeah, I think he's
a treky for sure. What's up, Georgiana. I don't think honestly that
whatever created this thing, I got a feeling it's not. It's not a
man or a woman, or a male or female figure. It's probably some
kind of androgynist being, or just the swirl of energy like a black hole
or something. I don't know. I just don't think it's a queen or
a king, or a god man or a god woman. I says,
start brains doing this stuff. I want to believe in some of the stuff,
some of the stuff. What he's saying is true, Well, I
don't know it to be true, so I'm not gonna retract that. But
what he's talking about about the communicating in packets that happens in Monroe's books too.
Once he gets to astral traveling enough, and if you get on into
a second book, he does run into entities that don't have bodies, and
they call these packages that they communicate to each other roats. He calls them
roats. He has like a language, it's almost like a language key in
his second book, so he calls them rots. So he'll talk about him
handing another rote to a being in the astral RM and it's like a zip
file of all this information that you can understand just instantly. But keep in
mind too that we know also that Wes has read and studied most of the
books that we have, and he's doing, in my opinion, exactly what
we all do. So we all go out and we take in as much
information as possible, and then we put this reality of a truth that we
don't exactly know for certain, but we think or we intuitively feel that this
is probably the truth. And then some people go out and say, I
think this is what's happening, but I don't know for certain, and then
other people go out and write books around it about it and say they have
insiders that told them. So that's mine. That's my opinion. It's very
asshole as of me to say that. But I'm pretty sure I could be
wrong, though, So that's kind of ironic that I'm saying I could be
totally wrong. I could be assuming. It just kind of feels like that's
what's going on here, that's all I'm saying. All right, So we're
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It's like a radio thing. You read all the radio books and they tell
you make sure you hit the promos, say this stuff over and over and
over again. But it's like, uh, imagine doing I love radio,
but I could never do old school radio. The time is this in the
weather. It's windy outside and raining, like nobody gives a damn about the
wind. Just tell us if it's raining or not. So we're reading the
West Penry's text tonight, the text that talks about how we're trapped in a
matrix and we need to escape from the grid or to the grid, to
go to O'Ryan to this queen. Like I said, basically, it's kind
of like a tricked by the light different story. So far, there's no
proof that any of this is true. There are only synchronicities to information that
we've read. And then there's an end story that he's put on here that
he said he got from some someone, something that he won't tell us what
it is. I hate to be so condescending about it, but it gets
frustrating after a while. It's kind of like, you know, getting like
listening to a story, but when you get to the climax, it's like
when the sopranos ended, the most important part of the information is gone where
it's nonexistent. So when we left off, we were at this spot talking
about do we recover all of our memories in Orien. So when we get
to this place, if we manage not to go to the light, not
to go to the tunnel, and we go through the hole in the grid,
and we leave this hole and we find ourselves in the queendom of Orion,
and we become one with the queen in Orion, which Genevieve in the
chat says, I got a problem with this whole queeny thing. Do we
keep our memories or do we forget. That's a good question. So he
says that the time on earth that we have here and particularly in this construct,
has been very traumatic and confusing. Our soul has been split into many
units and recycled into different times and simultaneously by inserting them vertically into various time
periods, and these souls become irrelevant for you to begin with. After you've
exited. And when these splinters are born somewhere, they have complete amnesia,
and they build a personality completely different from yours because of their environmental circumstances.
Then when they die, they get recycled again and will become even more foreign
to you. We might doubt we will retain the memories of these soul splinters
now being their own personalities, with their own evolution and memories. However,
if they are your soul splinters, they belong to your three uc which is
your three being, the part of you. He says, You're a threefold
being, which means they share the same spirit body. So one day they
will be retrieved. And Orian contact here we go, his insider and Orian
contact once told me the Queen will help us with these things, But it
was not further explained. What may be of more immediate interest, however,
is your own ancestral line or your genetic line, and your soul memories from
many thousands of lifetimes when you were recycled on Earth, having a new experience
each time. This is still your direct soul line and ancestral line, which
are your cumulative experiences on Earth and in the matrix, we forget all the
past lives and only remember the current life, and even that we barely remember
because of all the trauma we have been subjected to. Therefore, what happens
when you leave the matrix? Well, will you start remembering your previous lives
and life experiences, both as a three U see and genetically. I have
learned that we do. You will remember and all these many many experiences over
time will now be in your memory bank. Some have asked me if that
won't be overwhelming, because there can be a lot of traumas involved which flood
us if we get to know it instantaneously. But not so, they will
stay with us as memories and experiences that we can draw from and we are
operating in the car. I would probably compare them with your own memories in
this lifetime Let's say you pull up a memory when you fell hurt and hurt
your knee and Orian. You will remember this, but it's just a memory.
It does not affect you traumatically or flash back into your memory bank as
post traumatic stress. Another question I have received is whether we keep our personality
in the car. Yes, and if you exit as John Smith after this
incarnation, you will still think like John Smith when you enter the car.
You will keep the same personality, with your strengths and your flaws, your
memories and your experiences, your fears and your courage. However, after you
have regained all the memories from other lifetimes, I would imagine that your personality
will change. And with all those experiences in mind, a person probably changes
quite a lot, which of course is not a bad thing. You may
become wiser in the process. We change with experience. This is a lie.
So are there other languages in Orian? When we are non physical beings,
which we will be when we exit the matrix, we can't talk,
of course, so we communicate with thoughts, and soon enough we'll send thought
packages between each other and between us and other beings. In the ka on
Tiamat, we had our own verbal language, which was the Aryan language.
We were physical and spiritual on a physical spirit world, even though it was
all in the Ka and not in the three D. Over time, I've
shared some of the Aryan language I learned during the West Penry paper sessions from
having communicated with Orion, and a few examples have also been shared in this
book. The languages in Orion, however, are different in different constructs.
Still, there appears to be a common Aryan language, similar to the English
language being the most commonly used language on Earth between nations. Oh, of
course it's going to be an English. This guy stresses me out, he
does. He stresses me out. This guy this is like one of those
guys you can't take to a party because he doesn't He would never get on
the dance floor. Probably he would never have more than one beer. Sorry,
I got ticks. Thoughts, on the other hand, need no language
and are universal, and in the car thoughts become concepts, not language based.
As we discussed the next part of this chapter to add on to that
is tricked into false grids. Okay, so now there's false grids too.
Come on, man, we need to have a trust session. Do you
think Wes ever did those trust falls in therapy and group therapy. You have
to trust that we're going to catch you. Just fall backwards. Inky has
often been called a tricks to God, an ancient text. So we can
be sure we are not lured into lurid, lurid lurid. I think lurd
is the redneck version lurid into a false grid, which can again, we'll
take us to the recycling center. So this is a good question. But
if following the instructions in this book and in Guy's hand out, you can't
be tricked. Both you and I know what we want. We want to
go through the grid. I didn't say I wanted to go through the grid.
You're just assuming that. See what you're doing. You're manipulating me right
there. That's old car salesman trick you just did there, Wes, Both
you and I know what we want. We want to go through the grid
so we can exit the matrix and get back to Orion. We know that,
and we know we don't want to go through a false grid. If
something such as that would appear, it's all about intention. You can't go
to Orian through a false grid or a false light, because it's not part
of your intention. This means you don't need to be concerned. Your intention
where you want to go will lead you the right way, discard the thought
that it could go wrong. The exit procedure is actually very simple. You
spot the grid in the holes, choose a hole, set your firm intention,
and think yourself through the hole. Everything else is irrelevant. I was
going to say a bad bedroom joke there, but I'm not in the mood
tonight. If you would have used all of this intention that you're talking about
now in your Earth life, I don't think you'd be this upset. If
you follow the in instructions in this chapter, I know we will see each
other on the other side, and remember, work on your fears and doubts
and get rid of attachments. Do anybody see how ironic that whole statement is
right there? In the next chapter, we're going to talk about how to
heal so we can enter orian with the best possible versions of ourselves. So
chapter sixteen is titled Healing from Cosmic Abuse. Lets let's go to the chat.
I'm starting to get lonely out here, man, Let's see, Michael
says, I was thinking, if I'm back as a new life for baby
does part of the old me stay behind to greet them and comfort them.
It's just strange to think about. It takes one hundred years of It takes
one hundreds of years to reincarnate. How do you know that? Tell me
how you know that? Yes? I think it's your higher self. This
is why you have to listen to your spirit to know if they really are
your true loved ones, so you can't get tricked. I agree with that
karma, Like, I think you would know in your heart. You know,
I get vibes with people on earth as soon as I meet them.
Why would I not have? Of course I haven't always trusted them. I
was always sometimes you're like, ah, maybe I'm wrong or maybe I can
change this person. Here's the thing about trust. I'm gonna go just real
quick with you on this, Like if you have to trust what people show
you, if he trusted what people showed him and set all these boundaries that
he's trying to tell us to set in his earth life, he would have
become a happier person. Like if you attract what you are you guys know
this right, like attracts like period, your vibration attracts the same thing.
Always. So if you're only and desperate and you feel unworthy, you're going
to attract lonely and desperate, unworthy people a lot of times. That doesn't
mean you have the same personality though, So an impath could be a lonely
desperate person and that attracts a lonely desperate narcissist because it's very weird how things
happen. Like attracts like. But we also need two opposites to attract to
each other, and this is what happens, that comes together and the two
and one happens, because that's a divine mystery on this earth. So in
a sense, even these abusive, empathic, narcissistic relationships that we go through
on Earth are still a part of love and still a part of the process.
It's still a part of the growing. So once you change and then
you become a self loving person with boundaries, but you're still hopefully you're still
a loving person. You're not carrying loads of past trauma with you and swinging
the pendulum on to the next person that you're with. Hopefully you love yourself
enough to be like I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm happy. Then you'll
meet somebody that's like, I'm okay and I'm happy, but there will be
something opposite about them more than likely that will attract you together. Usually it's
man or woman or masculine person, feminine person, and then there are other
things. But the deepest parts of your unconscious, the deepest issues, are
the things that you'll attract. You probably deal with them in different ways.
So that's how it works. The more fulfilled and happier you become, the
more you attracted in your life. I don't see this is the thing like
this idea, and we'll read this healing from cosmic abuse. We've got plenty
of time. But in my opinion, this is the thing that we learn
instead of waiting till the end of life and then we have all this untrust
and then go, Okay, when I die, I'm going to learn to
trust myself. This is what he's learned to trust himself, only even after
he's dead. That's pretty sad. But you should just trust what people show
you. Just like if you meet a new person, whether it's friend,
colleague, or potential partner or whatever, they always show you who they are
right then and there, and we call them red flags. Now it's all
over the internet, right, but we don't listen to those red flags,
so we we think we can change them, or what we're really doing is
we're projecting our untrust of our own selves and our insecurities onto this red flag
because we don't trust us and we don't trust what we're seeing. And we
have a problem with that for sure, trusting what we see that's right in
front of us, right, and then later when it comes out like if
say a person is I don't know, say a person has a temper and
they just they're mean and they're kind to everybody, but every now and then
when you first met them, to have a temper. Because I'm one of
those people. I'm kind to everybody. But if I get to know you
personally and I start getting a deeper relationship with you, I have the tendency
if I feel disrespected, I get a little temperamental. Right. If a
person trusts themselves, as soon as they see that, they'll say, Okay,
this person has a temper is trusted. But it's not untill later until
you went through all the red flags and time and time again that you're now
you're pissed off, resentful, all kinds of stuff, and you're traumatized when
it was right there in front of you. You saw it, you know
it was there. Come on now, let's see. Looks like we have
a nine to one to eight area code on the air. Who he's speaking
with? Up? Who were speaking with? Stephen? What's up? Stephen?
How can I help you? It's like customer service. I got to
help my road tonight at eight or five pm. It's called God's Wrath,
God's ras raft will beyond mats, skeletons, and caskets, burnt, the
ashes to the foundation stones, just to God coming down to smash you.
This prophet sent by God announced for thirty three years, the final countdown.
No one will pick up the Bible and put the remote down. Egotistical puppets
dressed up for the demon show, burning balls of sulfur on the schedule to
rain down a second time, burning holes through souls and minds. Mortal clay
puppets set free but not without rules and laws and free will. Turned your
backs on God, walk in and hate the date with death, burning with
sin. Ten commandments for the standard to keep you holy. Welcome to fire
Lake. Loser's role with Locider known by which is of Satan, same evil
dragon respond possible for twisted imaginations, with all his lies, has blinded this
nation divided by his political mind assassins. They told you the truth was lies,
and now they own your asses. You voted for this, I didn't.
All infantile order of followers need to grow up and think for yourself.
Kids. I like it. Thanks for letting me call. Yeah. I've
been writing songs for thirty three years since definitely with you on the nineteen ninety
one whenever I began to prophesy, do you think you're a pheside? Jacob
Paul them for a fact, I am. I prophesied live on Caravan to
Midnight, told him for two years. I was going to prophesyte the death
of a rough child on February twenty third, on my birthday. This is
what I said three days before he died. Sometimes, when I pressed my
ear to the ground to hear the sounds of hell, I just heard another
rough child screaming. True story. Nice. So yeah, I was just
going to prove that everyone listening to God of all creations, He gave ten
holy commandments to protect all of you from hurting each other, lying, stealing,
killing, hating the punishment. There is an eternal lake of fire.
I promise, I pray to God you people buy and repent for your going
in You're all going to burn in hell. You're all going to burn in
hell. Man, you should put that on a billboard. Dude. I
like your passion, I like your belief, but I think that you already
causing the lake of fire. And you don't have to follow ten commandments to
not be a bastard. All you got to do is yeah. I like
how you hung up. Doesn't really want to have a conversation, just want
to make his point and move on. But that's kind of how profits work
too. If you read the Bible, most prophets are like that. They
don't start out as really good people, and they're kind of jerks too.
In the Bible, read the stories of the prophets. They are assholes.
But I'm totally with the guy on order followers. He's got a point there.
Well, that's a whole other subject. I don't want to get into
people that just say yes and to everything, and well this is the way
it is. I can't do I'm not I'm with him on that one,
all right, Wait to express express yourself, however you want to. Let's
get back to this all right, So the healing from cosmic abuse the border,
he says our boarding of the LBGC. The doctor scientists I connected within
the WPP first level of learning said it, the Palladian said it, and
a source from O'Brien said it. The star races in the ka are afraid
of us in the shape humankind is right now, and they don't currently want
us out in the car. Do you think see to me, I'm just
saying to me, even before this guy called in, what I was talking
about trusting yourself. You have to trust what you see, right. So
I'll give you an example, because this whole past chapter was about untrusting.
Right. So if you if you come up to a person and they lie,
and they say, I'm a liar, I have a problem with lying,
well whatever, it doesn't bother you. You know they're a good person
deep down. Whatever they cheat, they steal like well that this guy was
talking about. They do all these things, and more than likely you've witnessed
this. Your consciousness, especially your unconscious has witnessed this. You've witnessed it.
But you're a good person and you really care about people, and you
really are desperate for loving relationships or friendships or a good job or whatever it
is you're trying to get, so you go along with it and you ignore
all the red flags, right, and then, like I said, later,
and I think this is what happened to this author. Later, you
just went through cycle after cycle of these things, and then you start to
become resentful and pissed off and angry. I've been there. That's the only
reason why I'm saying it. When you should have just trusted yourself to begin
with. You could have told that person, hey, look, I think
your intentions are really good. I think you're a really good person. You
know, none of us are perfect, but I don't think our values line
up. And yes, it's scary because you don't trust yourself and you don't
trust your heart, and you don't trust goodness enough that you might find another
person that's just as cool but with better values or whatever. So now you're
all pissed off. You spend all this time with all these friends, partners
and colleagues and all this other stuff, and now you're writing books projecting how
pissed off you are about narcissists and liars and everything, and now you just
want to leave the earth because you've been taking advantage of because people stomped all
over your little heart because you weren't assertive enough in the beginning. You didn't
trust yourself enough in the beginning. And even though this is why I have
more respect for guys that like that that called in. Even though a lot
of what he's saying is completely asinine to me, he believes it. He
trusts himself. You can tell maybe to a point that's way out there,
but I think you get more done in this earth if you do if you
trust yourself, Because if you learn to trust yourself, whether you're completely full
of shit or not, you'll grow and then you'll learn to have a better
life. And you don't have to worry about like ten commandments or what happens
after you die, or any of this other shit, as long as you
treat other people the way you want to be treated. So when I told
you guys before that there's this movement of Christians that do not like any of
this field, and they either flail in this field or they always talk about
some conspiracy that's happening behind the scenes. I wasn't playing. It's a very
very big niche. And if I wanted to have a super successful podcast and
make a ton of money and become super successful, I would forget about all
of you and I would just validate those people and they would buy all my
products and hand me money hand over fist. Don't you see the irony in
that? Though? All right, so I just don't have respect for any
of this, any of this. I would almost I hate to even say
this. I would almost rather be flat out lied to than have someone tell
me a ninety percent truth and cover up the most ten percent important thing that
I need to know and not tell me. You get what I'm saying.
There's another pterodactyl here. And so now I have a friend like you that's
listening to these shows and he's on the last legs of his life, at
least he thinks he is. But we got him listening to Spenza tapes and
all kinds of stuff, his attitudes changing for the positive. This thing is
trying to attack me. And you know, if somebody is not telling the
truth about this or validating all this stuff for projecting their emotions through these stories,
they don't realize the effect of this. They're affecting people that read it,
just like Gareth. He contacted us a long time ago and he said,
I read these books and they scared me and it pissed me off.
So now I'm reading sixteen Healing from Cosmic Abuse. So as you can see,
I have a morbid sense of being. I'll go straight at stuff that
pisses me off because i want to know why. So this our burden of
LBGC. The doctor scientists I connected with and the papers the first level of
Learning said it was. The Palladians said this, and a source from Oriyan
said, the star races in the Ka are afraid of us and the shape
humankind is right now, and they don't currently want us out in the Ka,
the dangerous human Soul group. There was a time not too many earth
years ago when some star races living in our vicinity of Sector nine, our
sector of the Milky Way galaxy, went to the Queen and protested about the
Orion plan to somehow help setting humankind free. And I'm just telling you,
in the back of my head bs bs bs, these star races feared for
their lives and existence if we were to enter the call as an entire soul
group. They were also afraid we would spread out in the universe and create
havoc degrade in the spirit worlds and the spirit universe. The Queen heard them
ount and she heard my source out, and it was concluded that these star
races were correct, and if humankind is to be released, it must be
done in a sophisticated way. But how if Orion would show up, whose
side would humankind be on? A star race appears on Earth and the governments
of the Earth would tell their people, we must unite in a worldwide different
so we all can get together and defeat this hostile source. This is what
President Oh my god, this is what President Ronald Reagan warned about in the
nineteen eighties, and that's why many alien movies and TV series have been all
about over the decades. Ronald Reagan knew about these people and Orian sources.
And Orian source has studied the Human Soul group for many years now, and
he is very dismayed. He said to me, and this is the quote
from his O'Rion source, we have to save what we can be saved from
this construct, not referring to me, but to O'Rion when he told me
about the grid. He also conveyed that this was the escape and currently the
only escape. I'm starting to feel psychologically raped right now. Can you imagine?
That's kind of like any cult, or let's say, like sciential You
get in it and it changes your life, and there's like all these truths
that you learn, and you learn all this like esoteric and deep psychological stuff.
It's not till you get to the end of the book when the crazy
shit comes out. You know. Once I understand that, and once I
understood the concept of this, I told him I can go out and tell
people about it, and perhaps many people will react positively. But he didn't
say much more about it, but asked me to go ahead. And apparently
one, but not the only reason for him to come here was to check
the status of this experiment, and he realized that at this time humankind could
not be set free. We had become just like Inky, but worse in
a sense. Inky and his cohorts have no creative powers left, but we
do. It's only our homo sapien sapient bodies that keeps us limited to the
five senses and the four percent universe. We incarnate into these meat bodies,
and because when doing so, we can't use our full capacity, so we
solve problems quite primitively, which Lee reads to violence, wars, and abuse.
And our soul fires are in human cells, but only for Our soul
fires are in the human cells, but only four to five percent are activated,
and an average human. The rest is dormant like junk DNA, as
science erroneously calls this junk DNA. But those who wake up start using more
of their switched off DNA. Because we only use so little of our capacity,
we are amnesiatic to the rest, and we feel powerless in our lives.
This is the degree to which the overlords need to reduce us for them
not to be threatened by us. They fear us because they know what we
can do when fully activated. They wouldn't stand a chance against us. The
only weapon against the invaders is to wake up and reclaim ownership of our hijacked
minds. Can you believe when you look at humankind in its entirety, if
we were all set forre you no know rhne to create as creater gods?
What if I told you Wes that we can do that now on Earth.
We don't have to leave the Earth. We don't have to leave the earth
to be creator gods. We can all do that now. Even your Bible
told you that. But you only want to agree with the stuff in the
Bible that agrees with you. The rest of it that you don't like or
that don't make sense, you just throw out, you know, like the
incense, the murder, the rape, or the texts that don't make sense
at all, or you know, the all of the verses that correspond directly
to the occult astrology and things like that. That's the stuff you didn't hear
about in your Sunday Morning Pew. They didn't tell you because they don't know
either, or they do that they learned about it in theology school and they
just didn't want to talk to you about it for some reason. Jesus,
this is not humanity's fault, per se. But the fact remains there would
be millions, perhaps billions, of spirited souls creating chaos and catastrophes in the
car and in some sense that would be worse than letting the overlords loose.
Because of our ignorance and inverted way of thinking. The problem is our programming.
It's so easy to program a human who's got amnesia. It takes twenty
one to thirty days to change a certain behavior in a person. This is
true roughly. This is why the media repeats the same news all the time.
It's programming. I'm not the one saying this, it's mainstream psychology.
The programming techniques have been polished by psychologists and psychiatrists, and after having studied
the horrendous research conducted on Nazi concentration camp prisoners by physicians and anthropologist Joseph Mengel,
I talk to you guys about that too. This is true, and
by other Nazi doctors working in the camp. But much of the mind control
the elite have used is built on much older knowledge the Nazis learned firsthand from
experimenting on people in the camps, particularly children. And then virtually all countries
are now using the result of these techniques on their own citizens. This is
true as well. I had a couple of shows about this, called the
mind virus. It's employed on a global scale with the purpose to globally affect
us and control us. Now put this into perspective, see how all of
this part was true. Now here comes his his truth. You ready,
Inky has known how to program human since he learned how to use Orian technology.
In this matrix, we have been programmed for about ninety six hundred years.
Put that in perspective that it takes thirty days to program somebody to incorporate
a certain pattern. Then ponder how many genuine thoughts do humans have and how
much is programming. We are strictly following Inky's introjects and are shared fantasy with
him, and we don't know it. That's a sobering thought. If we
go to Orion in that shape, we can only imagine what we would possibly
create there, not knowing any better. And I must say I agree with
those star races. We humans have the same potential to create as the Queen
herself if that is used destructively. Do I need to say more? We
bring our current personality into the ca good and bad. So he's kind of
agreeing with me that we could change things on the earth. But then again
he doesn't trust humans. So it's back to the Queenee story and Inky and
all this other stuff. Let me tell this caller and other people that if
you really studied the Bible as much as you say you studied it, you
would realize that all those stories are happening inside of you. That's why there's
codes in it. That's why there's astrological correspondences, why there's names and things
like that that don't make sense. That's why there's murder, rape and incest
and all kinds of things that even you know, if you read Jacob,
they all had sex with each other and in the family and all kinds of
stuff, and that started the Twelve Tribes of Israel. But to make that
story make sense, it has to be some kind of esoteric thing that's happening
inside of you. Because surely God wouldn't allow that, would he. That's
the stuff you're supposed to look into. That's why they're called dark sayings.
That's why in Isaiah he says, I will give you treasures and hidden places
so that you will know that I am God. Dark treasures and secrets and
hidden places. He's so obsessed on everybody going to heaven or hell, And
like the Pharisees, like the Bible tells you, you're creating the hell that
we live in. The only reason why the rothschilds have powers because you gave
him power repentance and redemption. So Wes says, what can we do about
this. The answer is to take responsibility for our minds for the first time
in nine thousand years, you think. Unfortunately, the way things have developed
here on Earth, we can no longer take responsibility as a soul group,
which was the original purpose. Instead, we need to take responsibility one by
one as individuals. The first step for any human is to realize that something
is awfully wrong with this world. Thanks Wes, I didn't know that someone
is lying to us. We're all lying to each other. Remember that it's
not always some being. I mean, we lie to each other and we
are being manipulated by someone. But who who's this? They? Well,
people have the entire Internet to look for information and to connect the dots,
a terrifying truth will emerge. We are being lied to by our politicians.
Did you guys really need the Internet to know that politicians were lying to you?
There are secret societies who rule the world, and we are slaves to
an elite who doesn't have our best interest in mind. Then we start learning
about the Matrix. You mean through the movie The Matrix, Because I don't
think any of you knew about the Matrix until you actually watch The Matrix.
The Gods, the overlords, maybe first from Zacharaistitchen, and then we go
from there. Eventually we understand that this entire construct is a lie, a
realm of death. Damn, that's what he's saying. All of life is
a lie, and this is a realm of death. Isn't that crazy?
Do you see the birds and the bees and like the rabbits and the deer
and the bears and the fishies, and you know, all these things bitching
about birth, death and resurrection. Do you see them complaining one bit the
trees? Maybe you're just afraid of death. You're afraid of death. That's
what he should title this book. I had a shitty time on earth,
and I'm afraid of death and of being alone, and I want to be
happy the end. Yep, you don't have to say that you contacted aliens
man. I seen the matrix too. Eventually we understand that this entire construct
is a lie, a realm of death. First, we hope to be
able to save the matrix, until we realize that it's not salvageable and it's
not our home to begin with. And hopefully the seekers find the information about
the grid. There is a way out, Thank goodness, and when this
happens, we're no longer a part of this world. We usually want to
have as little as possible to do with it, and we want to exit
and go to Orian, the greater Universe, which is our true home.
And at this stage we start popping out of our codependency with Inky and the
Syrian Alliance. We are no longer part of Inky's shared fantasy, and we
incrementally regain control over our thoughts and our minds. But I would ask you
gain control over your thoughts and your minds through the life that you lived,
through all of the misery stuff that you talk about. But you still have
the movie The Matrix, Zacharis stitching and some unknown stuff about lots of secret
societies that you don't know that scare you, and that's what's controlling your mind
more than likely. Are we getting glitches? Yeah, I think we're getting
glitches. Everybody's still there. Go to a positive matrix, Let's go to
the chat. I think there's a lot of wisdom in the Bible, and
I do think it is true that there is nothing new under the sun.
Yeah, well, it's not just the Bible that tells you this stuff.
All of the books that talk about the version bursts that go back thousands of
years even before the Bible. All of the books that talk about the earth,
the moon, and the sun and the stars, all of the books
that talk about birth, death, and resurrection, they're all telling the same
story. And even when you dig deeper into that, you can see the
geometrical and numerical codes side of them, and then you start realizing, oh,
all of these stories and nursery rhymes are lessons that are energies that are
going on inside of me. Even the names of all these characters in the
stories from Egypt to whatever are inside of me. That's why it doesn't make
sense to people that actually do have a mind, and they're like, oh,
the literal shit don't make sense. We even went back in history and
tried to dig up Solomon and David and find proof of all this stuff,
and they couldn't. They couldn't. They didn't. And there was a crisis
time during our timeline, you know, in Rome, when all of the
Pagans and the Gnostics and the three or four different types of Christian groups and
the Muslims, and they all started warning each other and killing each other,
and somebody came along. Some council came along and decided to put it all
together in a story and make it the newer religion, which we call Christianity
here in the West. And it's full of pagan and Gnosticism and Christianity and
all kinds of stuff. And it still has all of those codes inside this
book that go back to the beginning of time in Cuneiform. Because whatever put
those stories and those codes are trying to tell us the real truth. And
yet we got guys talking about, you know, shit that there is no
way of proven. We might as well be saying. We might as well
say, yeah, we're super soldiers on Mars fighting bluebird beings again, all
because we have emotional issues. Damn, damn. We're gonna leave off here.
The reason why people have such a difficult time waking up is because they
live in codependent intimate relationships with narcissists and therefore in a shared fantasy with them.
Is there anybody that hasn't been in a relationship with a narcissist. I
have never seen projection like this in my entire life. That's so blatant and
he's being so upfront about it, or they're in a codependent relationship with parents,
friends, associates, acquaintances, coworkers, authorities, banks, governments,
their bosses, and the list goes on. I agree with you on all
that. So you can't force people wes to have to stand up for themselves.
You can't force people to think for themselves. You can't force people to
be assertive in their own life. You can't force people to love themselves and
have boundaries. You've got to let it go. Man. You want happiness,
but you don't want free will. Their minds are blocked from often having
many different toxic trauma bonds with people around them. They can't see the force
for the trees. Not until people can see clearly and become such a secure
enough in themselves, after having disconnected from the toxic people in their lives and
their worst fears have subsided, can they start looking at more important issues their
own and humanity's future. But all this must be done now, because the
future is near and it's not pretty okay. Well, people have been telling
us this since the eighties, since I was a kid. There's always some
end of the world thing that's happening, and deep down you wish for because
you want all the bad people that hurt you to learn their lesson. That's
what's going on. When we realize what kind of world we live in and
we have started to heal, we need to get rid of all the attachments
to this world in our minds. Regardless of what attachments we might have.
We must train ourselves to the point that we can accept to leave them behind
when we exit. Then it's time to repent. Repent. Damn, he's
getting Orian Biblical on us, right. What are you saying? Deal?
Sometimes I think bugs are just people living in other dimensions. I want what
you're on. That's a good thought. Though. It's time to repent.
It is one of the steps we need to take. We need to repent
from what we have done as human beings here on earth. This does not
mean we will be punished for what we have done during our time here,
only that we no longer want to have anything to do with this world and
the destructive patterns we have taken on. You are you in this particular lifetime,
and the repentance has to do with who you are in the present time,
where your focus is. If you murdered someone six hundred years ago,
that was bad, but still it was back then you repent in the present
time, ready to leave everything here behind. But in order to repent,
some healing needs to be done. When you honestly have repented, you become
redeemable. Redemption is for your sake and for a rhine's sake. We all
need to know it's safe to let humans out in the spirit universe. Thus,
before you leave the matrix, you must repent from it. The overlords,
on the other hand, are not likely to repent because they are who
they are, and therefore they will not be redeemable. Here it comes again.
You ready. Narcissists, psychopaths, serial killers, the elite murderers,
rapists, and such people, whether they are humans or overlords, are not
redeemable. Holy shit, he just said all narcissists cannot be redeemed. Well,
that's you must not be Christian, because there's all kinds of bad people
in the Bible that got redeemed. It done worse. But he puts narcissists
up here with psychopaths, serial killers, the elite murderers, rapists, and
these kind of people. They're not redeemable because of their nature. They won't
repent. So what to do with such people must be for Ryan to decide.
In two thousand and eight, a person who claimed to be an insider
working for the global elite posted a long thread on a forum called Above top
Secret. You guys remember that forum. I remember looking at it a lot
of times. I accumulated the information, cleaned up the thread, and posted
the result on my website, Illuminati Hyphennews dot com. It is still there
for anyone to read. And as a side note, someone copied and pasted
this information from my website and published it on Amazon dot com under my name.
He or she did the same with information I posted from another insider.
So if you look me up on Amazon and you see the two books with
titles including Hidden Hand, they are not published by me. The imposter takes
all the revenue and I've tried to rectify this with Amazon but haven't been successful.
And regardless, the same information is released for free on my website.
The person who posted on the above top Secret forum called himself the Hidden Hand,
and he revealed supposed inside information on how the elite is controlling us,
the Hidden Hand being one of them. He was quite arrogant, but it
was a popular thread, and if you have not read his information already,
follow the link and the footnote and read the article if you like. Among
multiple other subjects, Hidden Hand talked about service to self or STS and service
to others or STO. He said that to ascend from this three D construct,
we must be over fifty one percent STO. If we are less than
that, we will be recycled. The ascension he was talking about was,
of course, ascension within Inky's matrix. Moreover, he talked about that he
himself must be at least ninety five per sts abusive toward humankind in order to
be a catalyst for us so we can become fifty one percent STO or more.
In other words, he claimed he must sacrifice himself for us by abusing
us so we can learn how to become more compassionate. That my friend is
a psychopath. That's how villains are born, right. They feel like,
well, I'm hurt so bad, and no one loves me, and no
one cares about me, and everybody hurts me so bad. I've cried myself
to sleep so many times instill nobody cares that I'm just going to become an
evil bastard and punish all of you so that you'll learn your lesson grow up,
man. How can someone like anybody with that kind of attitude have any
amount of truth or think they know the truth of the universe and what happens
after we die. I would trust a freaking frog with pink hair before I
would trust that guy. He added that what he is doing is not an
easy task, but he does it for humanity. This is, of course
ludicrous, but that's not the worst part. When I read the comments to
the Hidden Hands post, I was very discouraged. People on the forum were
so codependent and blindfolded that they thanked the Hidden Hands with all their might for
sacrifice themselves for them. Well they do it still nowadays. Just go on
social media watch videos all day. Can you imagine how much loose the highly
narcissistic and psychopathic Hidden Hand got from that, all these people on the forum
giving their energy and their power away. Oh my god, man. The
concept of sts and sdo comes from the two sources I am aware of,
the Raw Material and the Cassiopeans. The former needs no further introduction because we
have discussed the Raw Material earlier. The Cassiopeans was a group in the nineteen
nineties on the early two thousand, compromising people who opened a channel to an
et group claiming to be the Cassiopeans, who transmitted their information to go to
the group through a Ouiji board. Later, these beings told the group they
were them in the future. What else is new? Not only because of
the Hidden Hand and his vicious message, but also due to the nature of
the entire concept of sts versus sto. People who take this to heart have
apparently developed a great deal of anxiety, always wondering if they are sto enough
to be able to ascend and leave this traumatic three D realm. Of course,
even if they do leave this realm, they will only ascend within Inky's
construct. Well, dude, you're doing the same thing. This guy was
mad at people, so he says, I got to be abusive to all
these other people to teach you a lesson because he doesn't know how to deal
with pain and still move on and love. Now he's got it down to
a math formula. You need to be at least fifty one percent serving others
so you can ascend. That's the actual truth. Because the truth is this
psychopath knows that the human mind likes formulas. That's why we're always seeking for
the formula. Of truth so we can feel better about being scared about shit
and the void that we don't know about. So he knew that, so
he gave him a formula, and now they worshiped him. What you're doing
is kind of the same thing. You've been narcissistically abused so bad, but
you want to find loving beings to be around. But you've given up on
Earth, and you've told yourself this story of all these people contacting you from
Orion and hold this whole matrix thing, and now you're putting it in a
book to teach us a lesson or that hopefully we'll all just leave Earth.
You're not as dark as the other guy. I'll give you that. Shit.
It's eleven o'clock, so we still got a ways to finish this book.
But this stuff irritates the hell out of me sometimes. The central fire
and humanity sold. That is what's next. How y'all feeling now? I'm
just assuming too, Okay. I don't want to be an asshole here.
I feel bad for anybody that's been abused, but we've all been abused and
hurt and stuff like that. But you know, it's a part of growing
up. We have to learn how to still be loving while that happens.
Just do the golden rule. Treat other people the way you want to be
treated. And if people don't treat you the way that way, then it's
okay to lovingly let them go. And that's all you got to do.
Heal yourself and move on and have a good life. Everything doesn't have to
be so damned complicated. New book title Screaming into the Void, that's basically
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