Cuts all of them from their behavior in San Diego. But at least they
have a terrible team coming in the Baltimore Orioles, and they haven't lost a
game since September of last year. Many say the best team in baseball.
So if the Reds are any good, which we think they are, Friday,
Saturday and Sunday, they need to prove it. But until then,
I'm watching the news. I monitor the news so you don't have to.
And Scottie Johnson, who is the man on city Council that the police often
look toward to represent a law enforcement perspective. I think Scotty Johnson has been
a good friend of Sidney Abrahms they repped for many years. Is the guy
in charge of the Public Safety Committee of the City of Cincinnati. And this
former cop, former shall we say protector of Mark Mallory said, we can't
rest our way out of this. Sure we have an open air drug market.
Sure we got a heroin being sold. Yeah, we've got a lot
of gunshots happening in front of a church Saint Francis Sarah. Yes, I
know all that, but we can't rest our way out of it. We
need to spend more money on drug treatment, you spend more money on maybe
boatchi ball, Maybe a little bit of pickleball might be good. And who
knows? Iris Rowley, the clown who's in charge getting paid big bucks to
walk around community types say we need downtown movie theaters. If we at downtown
movie theaters, the youth, the youth would have places to go. Joining
you and I now is Representative State Representative of Cidny Abrams, who spent seven
years as a police officer in the city of Cincinnati on the mean streets of
Cincinnati, to discuss how much money is being paid by the state on drug
treatment, drug rehabilitation, et cetera. How much money's being shoveled into the
cities without measurable effect and Cidy Abrams, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Cindy, how are you. I'm great today, great American,
Thanks for having me on. Let me ask you a couple of questions because
I think you're like a normal person. Of course, you're out in Green
Township where people like to flee, either there or Boone County. And Harrison,
I'm well, Harrison's Harrison's got a problem. They have the Democrat Confederate
flag flying somewhere and Harrison, and that's the big news. You can't fly
the Democratic flag the Confederacy without problems. That's a different issue. But I'm
watching the reporting of Channels five, nine, twelve, and nineteen, and
to their credit, under the leadership of paula Christian Channel nine, there's been
quite a bit of focus on Saint Francis Seraph on Liberty Street downtown Cincinnati,
where you patrolled for years OTR in which this it's an open air drug market
in which you buy heroin, you sell heroin, cocaine, powder, cocaine,
of course, marijuana, plus every pillar imaginable, and the city,
Cheryl Long PG Puroval, the mayor and Scottie Johnson said there's nothing we can
do. After all, we got to talk about the root causes of crime
and that'll take care of it. Also, thirty pounds of human poop are
picked up on the alleys every day or two, and there's pools of urine
everywhere. But the city's kind of washing his hands like Julius Caesar, I'm
sorry, like punctious pilot and saying, you know what, nothing we can
do. So Representative Cidny Abrams when you go to the hallways of power in
Columbus, and this same thing is happening in Cleveland and Columbus and Toledo and
Youngstown in which open air drug markets exist in downtown areas. Is there anything
we can do to stop this? Well, let me go back to you
know, a couple of years back, when voters voted overwhelmingly, I think
it was almost seventy eight percent that they want the judges to consider the safety
of the community when setting bail. Let's start there. Let's start that.
Ohio ins overwhelmingly voted to say, you know what, yeah, we do
have a right to walk down the street in our neighborhood, go see a
ball game, you know, go to the grocery store, whatever you're doing.
You have the right to have a picnic in Washington Park. He's the
right to feel sick, right, Yeah. And so as a former police
officer, yes, you know, look, there's always going to be crime.
Someone's not going to get the memo that you know, you want to
be a productive member of this and go to work and treat others how you
want to be treated. There's always going to be some in society that aren't
going to get that memo. A couple more things I'll say is that as
a chair of Criminal Justice, of course we hear a lot of bills all
over the spectrum, you know, ramping up penalties, loosening penalties, the
whole nine yards. But I'll tell you I went to the border where Sheriff
Jones, as you know, last year, and House Bill two thirty was
born from that border trip. And I'll tell you something. We're going to
give you stats from Ohio. Since the bill's in production on June twenty seventh,
twenty twenty three, roughly three thousand, six hundred and twenty four Ohioans
and fifty seven, three hundred and eighty Americans have died of fentanyl poisoning.
Now that's devastating. This is the fentanyl is something that we again you could
ask law enforcement, the coroner's office. We have never seen anything like this.
It is killing people. It doesn't matter who you are, where you
live, what you do for a living, the whole nine yards doesn't matter.
And what we're seeing as a state and as a country with this fentanyl
crisis is catastrophic, and you know what, we've got to do something about
it. So speaking, of treatment. The state of Ohio, the taxpayers
a billion dollars with a B a billion dollars in mental health. You know,
we can go on and on treatment once you're addicted, Hey, prevention,
how not to get addicted. We invest the money in the services.
It's not like we're lacking there. So my answer was, let's ramp up
some penalties to you know, get more in line with federal law. I
mean, if you're trafficking in drugs and the DEA catches you, you're going
to prison period, period. And so this bill ramps up the drug trafficking
charges for cocaine, of course, fentanyl related compounds, heroin, and methamphetamine.
And of course we have a five year mandatory minimum on there prison term
if an individual is convicted or please guilty to a fentanyl related death. I
think that's important. You know damn well that you're selling fentanyl and if you
kill someone, you need to be held responsible period. Of course, we're
going to do some education in our school's K through graduate school about this mountainal
awareness. And one really interesting, very very great tool for our law enforcement
is we're going to allow law enforcement to collect oral fluids oral fluid testing on
the roadside, So that will test for all drugs of abuse. And what's
really neat is a test for the parent gene, which is going to tell
law enforcement how impaired you were at that moment, how high you were,
and what drug you were on. So again, future of law enforcement,
we need this. Of course, you shouldn't be driving around impaired. And
that's what Ho's Bill two thirty does. Ah I now, Sidney Abrams,
that's all good, sounds good, But if the cops on the streets of
Cincinnati are told by their supervisors don't arrest individuals, it's not the right thing
to do unless you have to, unless there's violent felonies being committed in your
presence. Channel twelve Paula Todi head video of cops see uniform in their cars,
watching drug deals going down on the steps of Saint Francis and around OTR
Paula Christian. Channel nine had video of cops watching heroin in fentanyl being sold
and did nothing about it. Now, when you were a cup, were
you given any instructions by the chief of police or your captain in your district
not to arrest drug dealers in the city sin Right now, it is not
happening because of the policy of PG pyrivol and Cherl Long and Chief Thiji.
Well, you ever told us a cop when you see heroin being sold and
someone zoned out on fentanyl, to stand down and don't arrest them. No,
and listen, you've got to let the police do their jobs. Okay,
first of all, let's talk about that number. Well, number one
is people need to be held accountable for their actions. I'm sorry, but
listen, if you're out there, you know, assaulting people and robbing people,
do you really think if you tell police. Lets let's use some common
sense here. If the if the city is telling the police, okay,
you're not allowed to do this this, or just turn their cheek or go
drive somewhere else or whatever, no enforcement, then guess what the businesses that
the city has worked so hard to draw two parts of OTR and the banks.
Look at how we've come leaps and bounds in the last decade or so
in both of those locations. Now you want people to come down and spend
their money, Well, guess what. They're not going to come down,
and they're not going to go to the restaurants and the bars or the casino
or whatever unless they feel safe. And guess what, then then it turns
a direct impact on your local economy, employing people in the whole nine yards.
So listen, public safety is paramount. If you don't have public safety,
if you don't support the police, let them do their jobs, then
you're going to get what you deserve, which is high crime. No one's
coming to your city, and it's going to spiral downward from there. I
have a text here as we speak from a District one police officer says.
This says the following. Tell your listeners, do not go downtown because if
you do, you're taking your life in your own hands. And the police
we are not permitted. We are not permitted to intervene and use force against
problem criminals because they are told that it is racial to do so and will
create more problems for themselves and for the city if they lay hands on anyone,
if someone resists the rest, do not use force. That's from a
police officer in District one. And so the message when I talk to the
leadership and you'll give the names out, I will FOP president Ken Kober and
former I don't know, thirty five year cop Dan Hills will both say that
there's been a complete change in the attitude of city Hall from the years of
Charlie Luken, from the years of Mark Mallory, from the years of John
Cranley. That when two to four hundred youths wild through the streets of Cincinnati,
going into restaurants, overturning food on tables, eating hamburgers off a plate
in the banks, and the gunshots are fired, there's burning rubber all over
the city of Cincinnati. No rest are taking place. That they're told to
stand down unless someone must be arrested. If you have that attitude, and
then even if you're arrested, you know, Sidney Abrams in juvenile court,
I want to talk to you about this that Judge Kerrie Bloom and I can
read the policies that have been given to me by a magistrate in juvenile court
who must go nameless because to identify this person would mean that guess what,
you're fired. If you're a magistrate here it is Willie. We have big
problems. The mayor is handcuffing the police from doing their job. Can't arrest
it unless it's a violent felony. In presence the city prosecutor. Now there's
the County prosecutor Melissa Powers who does felonies. The city prosecutor handles misdemeanor send
email to CPD that all traffic fences will be dismissed unless the officer contacts this
office to directly. Juvenile court dismiss assaults, resisting arrest, run away in
truancy. And also Judge Kerry Bloom is overturning the magistrates who convict them and
sealing the case and putting on early entries of release on murder cases. That's
juvenile court. That's from a magistrate in juvenile court. And I can't name
this person because they'd be fired. Imagine the breakdown of law and order when
we have the cops are told, don't arrest anybody, God forbid. You
have to have a violent arrest, so salely has to happen on occasion.
But when the arrest has taken place for a juvenile, even in murder cases,
that we have a juvenile court system. This isn't Benjamin Schwartz, this
isn't Sylvia cb Hendon, this isn't John Williams. They're told to keep the
lid on and don't send these cases to adult court. Your reaction well,
listen, this is ridiculous and crime is totally out of hand. You have
to support the police. If you literally stop people randomly. You can go
around to different neighborhoods again Green Township, Harrison, go all around the county,
including the city of Cincinnati, and you just randomly pulled people. Hey,
what's their number one concern? They're going to say, of course,
inflation, but number two is crime. People are met up with this.
They want to go downtown, like you said, see the ballgame, you
know, go reds and you're literally going to enjoy a nice meal. And
you can't because people are acting like complete fools. And you have to support
the police. Let them do the jobs they're trained to do. They are
trained professionals, and let them do their jobs. Now, Juvenile Court,
I got into this and I've been working on it, pouring over the Ohio
Revised Code to see what changes we could make. Of course, at the
state level, because obviously the judges, you know, have to follow the
law what it says. They're in the arc whether they want to or not.
At the end of the day, when you are a juvenile and you
commit let's talk about violent crimes right now, not that I'm downplaying misdemeanors or
traffic offenses, but at the end of the day, you need to be
held responsible. And if it's some violent crime, first of all, there's
something in the RC called Marci's Law, and the victim has a right to
stand there in the court of law and be heard. So does the prosecutor.
So again, the situation has drawn my attention, and the Supreme Court
just sent over the rule package. It's on my desk and I'm pouring over
it. And they've made some changes to juvenile at Rule nine and it is
to the General Assembly to either accept it or we can make changes ourselves,
I believe by July first. So again, yes, I'm looking into it.
And if the judges don't want to do their job, which is to
bring the victim in and bring the prosecutor in and let them be heard in
the court of law, then we're going to We're going to change We're going
to change it. I'll tell you another change that this is when you have
incompetent juvenile court judges, when you have felonies committed by fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen year olds and the judge has complete discretion on felonies, whether to send
it to adult court or not when the juvenile court is completely dysfunctional, hurting
the community. Many states give the county prosecutor equal responsibility to reach into juvenile
court when the juvenile court judge, like a Kerrie Bloom, refuses to bind
anybody over, and that gives the county prosecutor the equal ability to reach into
juvenile court and grab a rapist, grab a murderer, grab an arm robber,
and snatch them out of juvenile court and put them an adult court.
Presently, that's not the law. Would that be a good idea. I
wouldn't have a problem with that at all. Look, at the end of
the day, that everything you just described is a violent crime. And if
you want to act like an adult by committing those very serious you know,
rape, those very serious adult crimes, then you know what, maybe you
should think about that before you commit them. So then you want to act
like an adult, We're going to treat you like an adult. And again,
look, they save the juveniles that are bound and over, they save
them for the worst of the worst. You know that as they should.
Yep, And you know again it's out of hand, and I don't even
have to ask the Highlands. I already know because I've knocked doors for my
primary and I hear crime, crime, crime, support the police, So
it's time. I mean, I've always supported the police, as you know,
being married to one, and then of course serving as one myself and
all of our friends. Some of them have retired, but a lot still
serve. And hell yes, we support the police and you need to continue
to do that and let them do their job, all right. Lastly,
the virus of crime in the city and Blue Ash. In thirty days in
the month of April, eighty five car break ins in thirty days just in
the city of Blue Ash. There's hundreds of car break ins to find guns
and god knows what else. And they're coming out of the city of Cincinnati
to comit crimes elsewhere with masks on and gloves. It's metastasized. We have
to have a response. Cindy Abrams, thank you again for coming on The
Bill Cunningham Show. And the Billy advocated so far and spent on drug treatment.
Scottie Johnson says, spend another billion, spend more money, give him
some botchy ball and things are going to be good. But Cindy Abrams,
thank you for being there and thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Thank you, Cindy, You're welcome. Have a great day. Let's
continue with more. Next up are your comments. And I'm watching my city
destabilized. I'm watching my country being destabilized by outside an internal forces who do
not wish us well. When you have UCLA campus overrun with left wing radical
Marxist who demand that Jews be killed, and you have the hammer and the
sickle flying over UCLA campus, the enemy is within the gates. Let's continue
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