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Cuts all of them from their behavior
in San Diego. But at least they

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have a terrible team coming in the
Baltimore Orioles, and they haven't lost a

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game since September of last year.
Many say the best team in baseball.

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So if the Reds are any good, which we think they are, Friday,

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Saturday and Sunday, they need to
prove it. But until then,

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I'm watching the news. I monitor
the news so you don't have to.

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And Scottie Johnson, who is the
man on city Council that the police often

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look toward to represent a law enforcement
perspective. I think Scotty Johnson has been

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a good friend of Sidney Abrahms they
repped for many years. Is the guy

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in charge of the Public Safety Committee
of the City of Cincinnati. And this

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former cop, former shall we say
protector of Mark Mallory said, we can't

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rest our way out of this.
Sure we have an open air drug market.

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Sure we got a heroin being sold. Yeah, we've got a lot

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of gunshots happening in front of a
church Saint Francis Sarah. Yes, I

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know all that, but we can't
rest our way out of it. We

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need to spend more money on drug
treatment, you spend more money on maybe

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boatchi ball, Maybe a little bit
of pickleball might be good. And who

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knows? Iris Rowley, the clown
who's in charge getting paid big bucks to

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walk around community types say we need
downtown movie theaters. If we at downtown

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movie theaters, the youth, the
youth would have places to go. Joining

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you and I now is Representative State
Representative of Cidny Abrams, who spent seven

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years as a police officer in the
city of Cincinnati on the mean streets of

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Cincinnati, to discuss how much money
is being paid by the state on drug

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treatment, drug rehabilitation, et cetera. How much money's being shoveled into the

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cities without measurable effect and Cidy Abrams, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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And Cindy, how are you.
I'm great today, great American,

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Thanks for having me on. Let
me ask you a couple of questions because

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I think you're like a normal person. Of course, you're out in Green

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Township where people like to flee,
either there or Boone County. And Harrison,

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I'm well, Harrison's Harrison's got a
problem. They have the Democrat Confederate

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flag flying somewhere and Harrison, and
that's the big news. You can't fly

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the Democratic flag the Confederacy without problems. That's a different issue. But I'm

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watching the reporting of Channels five,
nine, twelve, and nineteen, and

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to their credit, under the leadership
of paula Christian Channel nine, there's been

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quite a bit of focus on Saint
Francis Seraph on Liberty Street downtown Cincinnati,

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where you patrolled for years OTR in
which this it's an open air drug market

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in which you buy heroin, you
sell heroin, cocaine, powder, cocaine,

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of course, marijuana, plus every
pillar imaginable, and the city,

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Cheryl Long PG Puroval, the mayor
and Scottie Johnson said there's nothing we can

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do. After all, we got
to talk about the root causes of crime

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and that'll take care of it.
Also, thirty pounds of human poop are

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picked up on the alleys every day
or two, and there's pools of urine

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everywhere. But the city's kind of
washing his hands like Julius Caesar, I'm

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sorry, like punctious pilot and saying, you know what, nothing we can

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do. So Representative Cidny Abrams when
you go to the hallways of power in

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Columbus, and this same thing is
happening in Cleveland and Columbus and Toledo and

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Youngstown in which open air drug markets
exist in downtown areas. Is there anything

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we can do to stop this?
Well, let me go back to you

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know, a couple of years back, when voters voted overwhelmingly, I think

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it was almost seventy eight percent that
they want the judges to consider the safety

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of the community when setting bail.
Let's start there. Let's start that.

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Ohio ins overwhelmingly voted to say,
you know what, yeah, we do

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have a right to walk down the
street in our neighborhood, go see a

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ball game, you know, go
to the grocery store, whatever you're doing.

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You have the right to have a
picnic in Washington Park. He's the

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right to feel sick, right,
Yeah. And so as a former police

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officer, yes, you know,
look, there's always going to be crime.

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Someone's not going to get the memo
that you know, you want to

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be a productive member of this and
go to work and treat others how you

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want to be treated. There's always
going to be some in society that aren't

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going to get that memo. A
couple more things I'll say is that as

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a chair of Criminal Justice, of
course we hear a lot of bills all

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over the spectrum, you know,
ramping up penalties, loosening penalties, the

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whole nine yards. But I'll tell
you I went to the border where Sheriff

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Jones, as you know, last
year, and House Bill two thirty was

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born from that border trip. And
I'll tell you something. We're going to

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give you stats from Ohio. Since
the bill's in production on June twenty seventh,

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twenty twenty three, roughly three thousand, six hundred and twenty four Ohioans

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and fifty seven, three hundred and
eighty Americans have died of fentanyl poisoning.

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Now that's devastating. This is the
fentanyl is something that we again you could

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ask law enforcement, the coroner's office. We have never seen anything like this.

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It is killing people. It doesn't
matter who you are, where you

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live, what you do for a
living, the whole nine yards doesn't matter.

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And what we're seeing as a state
and as a country with this fentanyl

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crisis is catastrophic, and you know
what, we've got to do something about

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it. So speaking, of treatment. The state of Ohio, the taxpayers

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a billion dollars with a B a
billion dollars in mental health. You know,

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we can go on and on treatment
once you're addicted, Hey, prevention,

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how not to get addicted. We
invest the money in the services.

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It's not like we're lacking there.
So my answer was, let's ramp up

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some penalties to you know, get
more in line with federal law. I

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mean, if you're trafficking in drugs
and the DEA catches you, you're going

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to prison period, period. And
so this bill ramps up the drug trafficking

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charges for cocaine, of course,
fentanyl related compounds, heroin, and methamphetamine.

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And of course we have a five
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if an individual is convicted or please
guilty to a fentanyl related death. I

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think that's important. You know damn
well that you're selling fentanyl and if you

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kill someone, you need to be
held responsible period. Of course, we're

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going to do some education in our
school's K through graduate school about this mountainal

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awareness. And one really interesting,
very very great tool for our law enforcement

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is we're going to allow law enforcement
to collect oral fluids oral fluid testing on

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the roadside, So that will test
for all drugs of abuse. And what's

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really neat is a test for the
parent gene, which is going to tell

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law enforcement how impaired you were at
that moment, how high you were,

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and what drug you were on.
So again, future of law enforcement,

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we need this. Of course,
you shouldn't be driving around impaired. And

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that's what Ho's Bill two thirty does. Ah I now, Sidney Abrams,

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that's all good, sounds good,
But if the cops on the streets of

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Cincinnati are told by their supervisors don't
arrest individuals, it's not the right thing

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to do unless you have to,
unless there's violent felonies being committed in your

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presence. Channel twelve Paula Todi head
video of cops see uniform in their cars,

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watching drug deals going down on the
steps of Saint Francis and around OTR

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Paula Christian. Channel nine had video
of cops watching heroin in fentanyl being sold

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and did nothing about it. Now, when you were a cup, were

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you given any instructions by the chief
of police or your captain in your district

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not to arrest drug dealers in the
city sin Right now, it is not

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happening because of the policy of PG
pyrivol and Cherl Long and Chief Thiji.

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Well, you ever told us a
cop when you see heroin being sold and

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someone zoned out on fentanyl, to
stand down and don't arrest them. No,

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and listen, you've got to let
the police do their jobs. Okay,

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first of all, let's talk about
that number. Well, number one

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is people need to be held accountable
for their actions. I'm sorry, but

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listen, if you're out there,
you know, assaulting people and robbing people,

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do you really think if you tell
police. Lets let's use some common

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sense here. If the if the
city is telling the police, okay,

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you're not allowed to do this this, or just turn their cheek or go

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drive somewhere else or whatever, no
enforcement, then guess what the businesses that

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the city has worked so hard to
draw two parts of OTR and the banks.

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Look at how we've come leaps and
bounds in the last decade or so

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in both of those locations. Now
you want people to come down and spend

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their money, Well, guess what. They're not going to come down,

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and they're not going to go to
the restaurants and the bars or the casino

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or whatever unless they feel safe.
And guess what, then then it turns

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a direct impact on your local economy, employing people in the whole nine yards.

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So listen, public safety is paramount. If you don't have public safety,

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if you don't support the police,
let them do their jobs, then

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you're going to get what you deserve, which is high crime. No one's

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coming to your city, and it's
going to spiral downward from there. I

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have a text here as we speak
from a District one police officer says.

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This says the following. Tell your
listeners, do not go downtown because if

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you do, you're taking your life
in your own hands. And the police

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we are not permitted. We are
not permitted to intervene and use force against

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problem criminals because they are told that
it is racial to do so and will

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create more problems for themselves and for
the city if they lay hands on anyone,

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if someone resists the rest, do
not use force. That's from a

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police officer in District one. And
so the message when I talk to the

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leadership and you'll give the names out, I will FOP president Ken Kober and

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former I don't know, thirty five
year cop Dan Hills will both say that

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there's been a complete change in the
attitude of city Hall from the years of

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Charlie Luken, from the years of
Mark Mallory, from the years of John

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Cranley. That when two to four
hundred youths wild through the streets of Cincinnati,

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going into restaurants, overturning food on
tables, eating hamburgers off a plate

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in the banks, and the gunshots
are fired, there's burning rubber all over

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the city of Cincinnati. No rest
are taking place. That they're told to

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stand down unless someone must be arrested. If you have that attitude, and

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then even if you're arrested, you
know, Sidney Abrams in juvenile court,

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I want to talk to you about
this that Judge Kerrie Bloom and I can

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read the policies that have been given
to me by a magistrate in juvenile court

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who must go nameless because to identify
this person would mean that guess what,

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you're fired. If you're a magistrate
here it is Willie. We have big

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problems. The mayor is handcuffing the
police from doing their job. Can't arrest

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it unless it's a violent felony.
In presence the city prosecutor. Now there's

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the County prosecutor Melissa Powers who does
felonies. The city prosecutor handles misdemeanor send

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email to CPD that all traffic fences
will be dismissed unless the officer contacts this

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office to directly. Juvenile court dismiss
assaults, resisting arrest, run away in

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truancy. And also Judge Kerry Bloom
is overturning the magistrates who convict them and

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sealing the case and putting on early
entries of release on murder cases. That's

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juvenile court. That's from a magistrate
in juvenile court. And I can't name

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this person because they'd be fired.
Imagine the breakdown of law and order when

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we have the cops are told,
don't arrest anybody, God forbid. You

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have to have a violent arrest,
so salely has to happen on occasion.

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But when the arrest has taken place
for a juvenile, even in murder cases,

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that we have a juvenile court system. This isn't Benjamin Schwartz, this

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isn't Sylvia cb Hendon, this isn't
John Williams. They're told to keep the

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lid on and don't send these cases
to adult court. Your reaction well,

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listen, this is ridiculous and crime
is totally out of hand. You have

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to support the police. If you
literally stop people randomly. You can go

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around to different neighborhoods again Green Township, Harrison, go all around the county,

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including the city of Cincinnati, and
you just randomly pulled people. Hey,

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what's their number one concern? They're
going to say, of course,

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inflation, but number two is crime. People are met up with this.

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They want to go downtown, like
you said, see the ballgame, you

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know, go reds and you're literally
going to enjoy a nice meal. And

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you can't because people are acting like
complete fools. And you have to support

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the police. Let them do the
jobs they're trained to do. They are

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trained professionals, and let them do
their jobs. Now, Juvenile Court,

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I got into this and I've been
working on it, pouring over the Ohio

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Revised Code to see what changes we
could make. Of course, at the

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state level, because obviously the judges, you know, have to follow the

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law what it says. They're in
the arc whether they want to or not.

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At the end of the day,
when you are a juvenile and you

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commit let's talk about violent crimes right
now, not that I'm downplaying misdemeanors or

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traffic offenses, but at the end
of the day, you need to be

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held responsible. And if it's some
violent crime, first of all, there's

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something in the RC called Marci's Law, and the victim has a right to

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stand there in the court of law
and be heard. So does the prosecutor.

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So again, the situation has drawn
my attention, and the Supreme Court

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just sent over the rule package.
It's on my desk and I'm pouring over

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it. And they've made some changes
to juvenile at Rule nine and it is

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to the General Assembly to either accept
it or we can make changes ourselves,

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I believe by July first. So
again, yes, I'm looking into it.

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And if the judges don't want to
do their job, which is to

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bring the victim in and bring the
prosecutor in and let them be heard in

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the court of law, then we're
going to We're going to change We're going

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to change it. I'll tell you
another change that this is when you have

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incompetent juvenile court judges, when you
have felonies committed by fifteen, sixteen,

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seventeen year olds and the judge has
complete discretion on felonies, whether to send

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it to adult court or not when
the juvenile court is completely dysfunctional, hurting

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the community. Many states give the
county prosecutor equal responsibility to reach into juvenile

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court when the juvenile court judge,
like a Kerrie Bloom, refuses to bind

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anybody over, and that gives the
county prosecutor the equal ability to reach into

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juvenile court and grab a rapist,
grab a murderer, grab an arm robber,

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and snatch them out of juvenile court
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Presently, that's not the law.
Would that be a good idea. I

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wouldn't have a problem with that at
all. Look, at the end of

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the day, that everything you just
described is a violent crime. And if

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you want to act like an adult
by committing those very serious you know,

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rape, those very serious adult crimes, then you know what, maybe you

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should think about that before you commit
them. So then you want to act

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like an adult, We're going to
treat you like an adult. And again,

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look, they save the juveniles that
are bound and over, they save

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them for the worst of the worst. You know that as they should.

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Yep, And you know again it's
out of hand, and I don't even

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have to ask the Highlands. I
already know because I've knocked doors for my

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primary and I hear crime, crime, crime, support the police, So

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it's time. I mean, I've
always supported the police, as you know,

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being married to one, and then
of course serving as one myself and

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all of our friends. Some of
them have retired, but a lot still

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serve. And hell yes, we
support the police and you need to continue

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to do that and let them do
their job, all right. Lastly,

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the virus of crime in the city
and Blue Ash. In thirty days in

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the month of April, eighty five
car break ins in thirty days just in

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the city of Blue Ash. There's
hundreds of car break ins to find guns

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and god knows what else. And
they're coming out of the city of Cincinnati

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to comit crimes elsewhere with masks on
and gloves. It's metastasized. We have

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to have a response. Cindy Abrams, thank you again for coming on The

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Bill Cunningham Show. And the Billy
advocated so far and spent on drug treatment.

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Scottie Johnson says, spend another billion, spend more money, give him

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some botchy ball and things are going
to be good. But Cindy Abrams,

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thank you for being there and thank
you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Thank you, Cindy, You're welcome. Have a great day. Let's

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continue with more. Next up are
your comments. And I'm watching my city

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destabilized. I'm watching my country being
destabilized by outside an internal forces who do

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not wish us well. When you
have UCLA campus overrun with left wing radical

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Marxist who demand that Jews be killed, and you have the hammer and the

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sickle flying over UCLA campus, the
enemy is within the gates. Let's continue

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with more. Bill Cunningham, News
Radio seven hundred. You lw this Mother's

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Day. Let's celebrate the woman who
held our scrape knees, cheered our victories,

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and nurtured our dreams, and show
her the love she deserves.

