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Hello, Hello, everyone we are
already here welcome to this program, This

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are for these special programs that we
like to do on this, on the

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two canals, in all peace and
in history, in welcome history. Of

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course, everyone' s going to
say what schedule this is, what schedule

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this is, but how it'
s possible, well, that' s

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right now. Let' s explain. Welcome to Lesli Hi, how are

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you, Vita? Thank you so
much for inviting me, because we are

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on exact Narnia schedule, we are
on a special schedule. But it turns

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out they' re in Sweden.
I' m in Vancouver. So,

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in Canada, it has different times, so being able to put these two

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times together wasn' t easy.
So what time this to see had Leslie

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proposed to me at six o'
clock in the morning from Vancouver. In

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what universe, if I am awake, it is now, because in this

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vera, in the summer, here
in Vancouver, it dawns as a quarter

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to five, that is, very
early in the morning, very early,

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but they were going to see with
their eyes swollen. All so good.

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Grandpa lupita is that then I tell
you that then a roll, because I

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have asked you your schedule or my
schedule and exact will be, oh,

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no, but well, here we
are thank you very much, i e

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Angel you say it for Canada has
five time uses. Yes, I imagine

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exactly exactly. I' m in
the here, in the Pacific, but

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now they' re there, in
Sweden. Let me go It' s

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ten o' clock tonight with seven
million. Ah well. Are you okay?

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Are you okay? Yeah, yeah, it' s all right,

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all right, listen, I'
m sharing this program right now. If

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you see me distracted, I don' t want to share it on our

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channel anymore, well, on our
Twitter account. But good because, because

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we' re part of it,
I share it with the Afitera band.

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I already put it all the way
right now. I just shared it.

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There it is, then, is
that this topic gives for much to talk

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about. It gives a lot to
talk about, because it' s unmasking

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charlatans. Yes, it should be
noted, It should be noted that if

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we dare to do this, it
is not with n n n a care

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of moral judgment, with no desire
to make anyone crucify or personally against someone.

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It is simply a program for the
best, because, of reflection,

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of opinion, especially of opinion,
but at the best of orientation, of

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knowing where and how to verify an
information reads them yes, look our fan

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It is not is definitely already said
in different tones, different forms on a

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particular case. But I think it
is also very important that we, who

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are exposed to so much information,
also have this radar and have this method

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of detecting who is a charlatan.
See, we' re not saying that

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a particular person is a charlatan,
but you see him every day on social

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media. Every day we realize you
have a million, hundreds million followers.

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It doesn' t mean that that' s a specialist test person in a

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given area. So let' s
see influencers who are life coaches, we

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see influencers who are health experts that
that' s very dangerous. Why?

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Because unfortunately, it comes to him
that those people who, perhaps, do

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not have this critical mass and take
that information as true exact, exact,

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go, by the way, something
that, to the best and also,

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can still undermine their physical health.
But against them you also know what is

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most serious, and that it can
completely destroy them in moral, mental,

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and physical terms, you can put
yourself at a real serious risk. And

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you' ve talked about toxicity,
for example positive, that that' s

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also telling you that you' re
gonna make it, and you' re

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gonna do it. But, well, each of us are people, we

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' re individuals who have different needs
and well, it' s just that

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we don' t want to put
it on the table and why? Now

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why me and why? Lupiis did
me a favor to invite me. Well,

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because I work at the Swedish academy. I work as a coach of

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innovation and entrepreneurship, because also being
coach is not a profession itself or you

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don' t go and study for
coach. Rather you have an expertise you

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are expert at something and you can
use coaching methods to share this knowledge.

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Then I work at six colleges.
I have worked in the last few years

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at six Swedish universities, the most
prestigious Loone University, the University of Stockholm,

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Carolinska University, the Carolinska Institute,
the POTH University and the University of

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Malmo. So I do what I
do classes on innovation and entrepreneurship for now

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yes, why my theme is this, because everything that is done with innovation

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has to have a scientific sustenance.
It can' t be that lupita and

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I thought to say here is that
they know that if they mix a little

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bit of lemon with vinegar, then
we' re going to cure the cancer.

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Yeah, according to who, of
course, and that' s what

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I mean, you can put your
life in danger of yours and very seriously.

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That' s right and hear,
Lupis seems yes to you, because

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I had promised them that, as
we also like gossip, I wanted to

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tell them a little scientific cultural gossip. They think it counts. Count well,

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so you can see that where there
are people there is gossip. So

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it turns out that out there,
out of a thousand nine hundred and ninety

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- six, in one September,
a Baiteran writer decided to sue an American

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professor who is given is called Boalipstad, because she wrote a book called Denying

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the Holocaust, the growing assault on
truth and memory. So David Irving was

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outraged, that is, Mr David, so let' s say. He

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was indignant because Deborah called him a
liar, not why. Because Mr Irving,

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if I ask You Lupis and all
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there was the Holocaust, yes or
no, yes, well, it'

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s part of the story. Well, this gentleman said no ok and then

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he said no. It' s
just that you have to check it out

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for me. Of course not.
So what I did was to demand to

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have her devoured, because she is
an expert on Nazi issues, on extreme

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right- wing issues on Holocaust issues. She' s a scholar of the

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subject and then he said no,
because I' m going to sue you

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because you, because it' s
interesting in the UK, you' re

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the one who demands, you have
to check, as everyone should be.

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It' s the proof. It' s the proof, but it'

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s the other way around. This
one counts in the United States the one

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who demands has to verify that his
saying is correct. It' s the

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other way around in the UK that
you have to check. He' s

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a kid all the way back.
You don' t have to prove your

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innocence. You have to check if
they do. In this whole thing that

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they start doing all this, they
have to do an investigation, because in

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order to be able to determine if
it did happen or the Holocaust. And

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it lasted six years this trial,
well, so much, so they had

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to go to Ouffitz to do as
an analysis both sides. Imagine because there

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and as one of the lawyers said
it was the scene from which and they

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had to go there to analyze whether
it was true or not, because this

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man said no, that it is
not true, that there were no gas

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chambers, that they did not gas
anyone, that the Nazis were very good

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people, that everything is an exaggeration. Blah, blah, blah. So

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it turns out that a very important
part of the trial was just to deny

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this what I mentioned to you,
that the gas chambers did not exist.

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So I want you to see how
interesting it is, how, from a

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scientific point of view, there was, because we' re talking about social

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sciences, we' re talking about
a historical fact, we' re talking

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about a documented fact. How you
can play with perception and use the data

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in your exact favor. Then he
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he argued it' s not true, it' s that these were bunkers,

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they were to protect themselves from the
bombs. And it' s not

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true. And besides, there were
no holes in the ceiling, so how

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do you say they got in.
They put these gases in if there weren

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' t even holes in the ceiling, so he started to argue all that

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to the luck of our beloved brap
had a fantastic lawyer that what he did

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was look at facts. He said," Oh, yeah, well,

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then you say this was a punker" No, I mean, it wasn

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' t gas chambers. Of course
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says ah, well, that'
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Auschmitz was built in nine hundred and
forty. The gas chambers began operating in

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a thousand nine hundred and forty-
one. The aerial bombings you say this

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dunker was made to protect itself from
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up to a thousand nine hundred and
forty- four. I don' t

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know years later, then, at
what time they built this bunker to,

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according to this, protect themselves from
bombs and besides, it was four kilometers

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away from the Nazi military base.
So, how do you think the bombs

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were going to be protected and this
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shelter you, it didn' t
make sense. Then this gentleman spent six

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years trying to use the information he
had, because, apart from that,

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he is a man who is a
historian who had information, etc, to

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try to use this information in his
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Notice that this was victorious. In
fact, you can find lots of documents

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and lots of videos on YouTube by
Devora Lifstad is one of my favorites.

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Really. Above all she talks a
lot about topics that we will use several,

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many of her what she commented during
the talk that she talks about,

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because just the truth and the fact
news and because she hears, she was

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a victim of him. Then notice
that the interesting thing was that he'

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s going to read you Judge Charles
Bray' s ruling when this whole trial

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ended. Six years. I'
m talking, six then says the judge

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ruled the following. Irving has distorted
and distorted the historical evidence is anti-

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Semitic and racist. It has partnered
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for ideological reasons. Irdin has persistently
manipulated history to exonerate Hitler. In my

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opinion, the ECUs made against him
in the Book of the List Doctor are

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substantially true. Mr Irving, you
have presented a completely distorted and false picture

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of the Holocaust, something that cannot
be allowed or tolerated under any circumstances.

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Then a judge had to determine that
the Holocaust if it worked, why it

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' s a story for them,
I tell them this whole story for what

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they' re going into something that' s so boyfriendy, so brutal,

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that there' s so many testimonies. There' s never one who tries

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to molybdenum this in his favor,
and it' s obviously these people who

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do it. It' s because
they get an exact benefit, exact everything,

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that is, no one manipulates no
more for free, but more because,

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well, some yes, there are
some more for the pure pleasure of

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please, wanted to do the ego, of course. But it is true

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what we have mentioned to ourselves and
several times in this program is that it

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creates to take truths and accommodate them
in such a way that they seem another

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truth to put together a truth but
that it is not true, but that

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in appearance it is. That'
s who went to high school first must

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have had the subject of logic.
That I hope and that is the important

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thing about that matter that many said
and I what it will serve me for,

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for the matter of those who serve
more and nothing less than to think,

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just as philosophy serves to think and
then, well, that is reasonings

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that, in appearance, are logical, but that go to truths that are

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not true, that are lies,
but in appearance truth, that is what

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these kinds of people do And what
happens that is to be guided. Indeed,

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by all these theories, I understand
and have spoken to me of many

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theories of conspiracy and of many things
that one then says ay no, for

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it might even be true, but
no. But not right there, critical

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thinking, ability to search other sides
for information, this ability to at least

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keep the doubt present and not marry
an idea forever, because, moreover,

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all the idea that, after many
tests, what we succeed in saying,

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I think this is true, can
still be manipulated, that is, it

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can still change and change. That' s the problem. So I think

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it would be interesting to talk about
or all this that has come out lately

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I remember, I remember a great
because it is important and it is a

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person and I brought it up and
I' m going to have it to

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mention to this character because it has
a lot to do with the theme that

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is right now in fashion that is
this Marifer Centeno, of his graphology,

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of how she defends it as if
it was true a science existed and still

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has a museum, which is the
Museum of Portrait spoken in Mexico, there,

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on University Avenue, in what was
his part, Mr Haubert. I

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don' t know if you ever
heard him talk. Don' t tell

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me, I' ll tell you. Let me have and in fact,

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we worked with him sometime when I
worked with Flor Rubio and Bueno in my

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brother' s magazine, when it
was the case with Diego Santoy and others,

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Mr Haubert, Sergio Haubert, Sergio
Carvajal Haubert, He was a man

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who rural teacher, was studied in
the normal. Then he was a great

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painter. Esmeralda got into school at
a painting school in Mexico City, which

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is very important among the most important
in Mexico, and began painting faces and

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was offering to the police. He
went to delegations to offer to make portraits

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spoken about criminals and others, and
they didn' t pay much attention to

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him until he got involved in a
crime of a Polish woman and a man

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and interviewed the woman they had killed
him. The man was dying and he

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interviewed. The dying man told him
to see more or less describe to me

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what the attackers were like. And
then he, this person describes, he

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makes the portrait spoken and the police, with that portrait he manages to catch

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beside or the criminal the talent of
this man, who had anthropological studies,

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because there were atropomóficos, rather than
anthropological, anthropomorphic, precisely for having studied

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in Esmeralda, in this school of
painting that you have to study, of

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course, human face hands truth.
So, well, he has all this

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baggage, this whole thing, and
he manages to make portraits spoken to the

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police and he is taken into account
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studies and he is taken seriously,
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but as you just told me,
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I think everyone on the chat didn' t know Sergio Hover either, but

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he did a prof sno job on
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emotional and other questions according to the
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' s not hard to talk about
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' s not hard if you study
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knowledge of it and you' re
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s one that made Sergio Hubert.
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confused with what' s going on
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problem and I' ve said it
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cover too much I don' t
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we just have to do it.
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opinion. I think you have to
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sensitive. When you are giving there
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knowledge, one is or personal union, that is to say I think then

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another from the exact anecdote professional opinions
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I think that when you jump in
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mess, because it doesn' t
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to see them explain to me about
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graphology. I can give you entrepreneurship
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can talk to you about how it' s created, what you need to

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get close to the scientific truth,
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graphology. I don' t know
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the point of view of navigation and
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What is the relationship between Nodal and
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the protagonist must always be the exact
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you are going to share a knowledge
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the protagonist, not you exactly,
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we see it, for example,
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what Ashinder Bes says, etc.
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are now as a life coach,
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I speak from the anecdote, I
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' m not speaking from the scientific
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you don' t have to be
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of a subject. If you can
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to have eighty metrics and four hundred
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study. You can say that according
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book such a decu We know that
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to the anecdote. And that'
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' s no method that' s
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s the problem, and you'
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do, because if it served me
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comes from the anecdote, it doesn' t come from professional opinion and neither

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influencers, neither Yon nor Lupita.
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queries, of course not, because
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sent me has to do with what
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program with all peace and in this
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thing we emphasize is that it'
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opinion. It' s never claimed
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no, I' m going to
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that, there' s no quote. You have to always say from what

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point of view you' re talking, from where you' re leaving to

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talk. And if you' re
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more scientific question, because you bring
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to see also it' s worth
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building this kind of information that can
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have this filter to understand and say
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I will see it, because in
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the person, because I am am
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etcetera. No, and there I
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t take everything this person says as
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it' s on the show,
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no, no, well, it' s my opinion. And then

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you also have to be very precise. You too, for example, you

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very rigorous. With that, you
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be quoted. I think it'
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t have it, sometimes you lose
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but most of the time you try
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right, right, right, where
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I' m going to give you
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Rodríguez Hello Lupita. I hope you
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The IPN comes out as homeopathic doctors
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a charlatan and the University teaches this. IPN means national polytechnic institute. It

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' s a racing school that has
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going to tell you the source where
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Note that it is nothing less than
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Ministry of Health, and defines homeopathy
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uses substances obtained from vegetables, animals
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water and alcohol. It gives the
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advantages of incorporating it into the health
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a therapeutic medical medical model, that
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Government and it is perhaps not an
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it, but it is recognized by
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other people. I don' t
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t use homeopathy. No. I
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helped me in anything, but I
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point is, unlike what we'
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s not that doctors get out of
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' m gonna do a miracle cure
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Here, they use vegetables, they
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would be as much as denying Yurbedic
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There is also herbalism and it is
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to do with curing through herbs.
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like a charlatan. Yes, I
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an alternative medicine. Not the opta. Now I would invite you to our

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dear Alejandra Rodriguez, and thank you
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invite you and everyone who' s
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the challenge right now after the program
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which is like a section called Google' s Coller, that' s Google

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' s Coller is. I think
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me write it, but well it' s Google for just it' s

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a Google where you get to find
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you write to Google as a school
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you can google it is well written
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one more thing, I think with
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there and you can have access to
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studies. I' d invite you
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to rehearse after the show get in
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see what they throw out, because
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or have two hundred doctorates and master' s degrees, because I don'

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t like to see myself say either
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awards, or the degrees I have, or anything, because I think that

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' s also very noisy. I
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you say it and how you communicate
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told them what I do to give
credibility. But I think the way you

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express yourself too can help you get
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tell you this, because there are
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who have many awards and recognitions and
such and are very half cres in their

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work. Many of these awards are
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jury viewing. Besides, the truth, that is the truth, and also

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that if you are honest, there
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Academy, because if you knew that
the Academy is worse than any drama,

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of any theme notes from any novel. I mean, academics are people who

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have mostly, not everyone, there
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who have very high egos and they
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game, which was more. One
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and everyone else is trying to say
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give it to c avoid discrediting.
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well, that' s why they' re scientists and that' s why

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we generate more knowledge and improve our
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important. I mean, it'
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that through this talk, I also
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as now, that a little window. How academia works and how it works

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academic degrees, because an academic degree
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performing is your job in a right
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If you want to know about homeopathy, according to the government, because

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there are laws. In addition,
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to carry this and, indeed,
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practiced in conjunction with the alopecia.
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that' s another topic. Yeah, yeah, but good things we'

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re reading here. But let'
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re going to put that in order
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What you sent me. We start
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think according to my personal experience.
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and it' s day- to- day, we all talk according to

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our experience, exact people opinions.
The first personal retapination that personal opinion always

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begins, for example, is that
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on facts, are influenced by individual
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think this movie is the best of
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very excited. Sure, sure hear
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house, it' s perfect,
because, according to you, according to

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who, the concert was wonderful,
because according to who was used playba,

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but maybe, from your point of
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Or on the contrary? Or on
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he kicked the dim as alex is
that I heard it. What, Luis

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Miguel is gorgeous. Oh, yes, and you can say it, and

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there will be some who say no. I was reading a review the other

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day that said it' s not
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I' m telling you no.
I don' t know about all the

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people coming out of the concert so
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And surely it was one or three
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to him. But then I read
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with regard to world peace. Well, that' s everyone' s personal

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opinion, no, and you can' t rely on that. You can

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' t base yourself on that.
You can say yes, but it can

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' t be anyone' s absolute
truth, of course, because it can

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be that I can have a different
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show and I didn' t see
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Eh ta and or she' s
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your head that way listen, but
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s not no maybe you went with
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that actor or I hate him.
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Well you see, for example,
Paulina says Luis Miguel is the most

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handsome man, Alice says you have
all the sounds and then, sad,

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Luis Diguel, you see opinion every
one is not my type, but well,

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the next, the point, that
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that are short stories of personal events
or individual experiences. Notice that this

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is what this is the way most
life coaches that are now everywhere and fitness

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coaches are expressed. And all that
because it' s always based on his

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anecdotes. And an example is once
I tried that diet and lost a lot

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of weight in a week. So
anecdotes do not represent general or universal data

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and are based on real events,
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person. OK, what I'
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about that, that' s the
exact anecdotes all over the place, it

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' s like you see it'
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I get, I started to analyze
this material where it was just i Rinders

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talk a lot from the exact anecdot
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that I did now. Eye is
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told to my entrepreneurs, because it
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and coaching is that conversation one by
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Let' s say we get to
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but let' s see that we
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I mean, they' ve always
been called counsellers or counselors. That

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' s the truth, because now, when you talk about coach, when

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you talk about coaching in general,
you mean someone who' s going to

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get into everything even in your personal
life. That' s the key to

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the coaches. And now talking about
anecdotes, because you grabbed me down that

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I was doing that little letter of
information levels, so that, well,

414
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I think about you, like in
my students, to see the rupito you

415
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have become like. He' s
open to your attention, but he didn

416
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' t have an anecdote. But
when you mention Islinder sometimes it' s

417
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true she speaks from that, for
example, it' s different. It

418
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.280
' s very different. When a
scholar of a matter I am going to

419
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speak, for example, from the
career I studied, which is pedagogy,

420
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:22.239
it is different Jessel, it is
different to talk about Maria Montesori, it

421
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:29.159
is different from talking about Piayet,
because they observe by then, through a

422
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.519
system, to have a theory,
and that is a scientific method, that

423
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.920
they appeal to that. But it
is one thing to observe and say why

424
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.119
a child and in how many children, in terms of group of children,

425
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.760
with a lot of factors to be
able to say something and to be able

426
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to base a theory. When you
talk about the anecdote, no, as

427
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:51.480
you say, ice Linderbs talks about
whether or not I put his ether on

428
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.079
my little girl and if my dad
scolded me or not, that doesn'

429
00:34:54.159 --> 00:35:00.079
t hear if you' re lind
said in the observation that we made fifty

430
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.480
children going out into the rain,
putting their ether in half and in half

431
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.000
not and gets sick, hey,
because we could be talking about the fundamentals

432
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.400
in another way. Indeed, nothing
more is your anecdote, nothing more is

433
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:15.639
what happened to you and that is
not valid for direct consideration either. It

434
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:22.920
is also important to understand the following
and really that you will share with what

435
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:29.480
happens to me often with those who
want to start businesses or who want to

436
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:34.760
start entrepreneurship in any of its forms. It' s not therapy. Uh,

437
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.679
and I also see that a lot
of people who open this kind of

438
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.880
channel are okay, that is,
it can help you as people, to

439
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.400
roll you as a human being.
Okay, but many of them use them

440
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:51.639
because they have things to work on
and they are doing it through a microphone

441
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:57.440
opening because they also tell very private
things and from the anecdote to overflow.

442
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:07.639
Then it is also when a general, a professional who is sharing his knowledge,

443
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.760
will not always be speaking from the
self. It' s just that

444
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:14.679
when I went, I was when
I went. Of course, you can

445
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.599
also share some of your experience in
coaching, but you' re not always

446
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.800
talking from the self. You have
to listen to the other one, because

447
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:24.320
he' s the other one who
has to talk. It' s the

448
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:29.159
other one that you' re into
information, so you poop that information,

449
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:34.039
so you can help them structure their
thoughts into the different methods that you work

450
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.840
on. It' s just listening
and not getting out. I think many

451
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.679
use them too. My personal opinion
is that many also use it a little

452
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.400
bit to bring up this topic from
the anecdote and share that it is not

453
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:51.639
wrong. But you also have to
be very careful about that, because my

454
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.760
personal experience doesn' t mean it' s the same as yours. Luis

455
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:58.719
ah of course not. Of course
it' s not what followed me.

456
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:04.400
Or that I go with a person
to Cancun even this one because they love

457
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.159
that not to Cancun to make a
magical retreat that will cost you 30,

458
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:14.679
000 pesos. It' s going
to change your life, because you don

459
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.800
' t have to be very careful
about that either, so you have to

460
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.400
start being as an observer. Not
like that, tell this person he'

461
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.000
s talking from the anecdote. To
me, this person who is the anecdote,

462
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.840
but always say look at this.
It worked for me and it also

463
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:35.320
happened in this study Notice that it
does work because blah. Bla? BLA?

464
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:36.760
BLA? BLA? BLA? Bla? Of course, if you can

465
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:40.840
' t talk in general or pretend
that what you lived is applicable to everyone

466
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:45.000
else. If that' s what
we were saying, right now, the

467
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.440
anecdote may be that I can help
you best if you go to a doctor

468
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:50.920
' s office and talk to him. That' s why he' s

469
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.599
so lame. But the doctor heard
too. Each patient has a different anecdote

470
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:58.880
the patient and then the doctor has
to appeal to their scientific knowledge, not

471
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:05.119
to each individual. But well,
the next level. Next level are professional

472
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:10.880
opinions, which are judgments, evaluations
issued by experts in a specific field.

473
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:21.039
The features are based on expertise and
experience in the area. More reliable than

474
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:28.639
personal opinions. Due to the information
and knowledge of the professional they are usually

475
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:36.159
supported by data, research and accepted
theories. Now it is also important to

476
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.679
understand that how knowledge is generated,
generated by people or not, generated by

477
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:46.440
Martians or by non- reptilians.
No, so they' re not people

478
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:52.639
like you and me, they'
re curious that they find a hypothesis and

479
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.000
they start to research a topic and
then they say this is my result,

480
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:02.880
it' s published in and then
they reach consensus. It is like a

481
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:07.519
group of people who say ah well, we accept this as the truth,

482
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:13.920
that there are no absolute truths,
but we say our consensus leads us to

483
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:17.039
that this is the truth and this
is a fact, so we can assume

484
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.320
it as truth and we can use
it as data to support our sayings.

485
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:28.320
Not well, then an example of
this is, according to recent studies,

486
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:34.840
this surgical technique is the most detective
to treat that condition. Interesting eye.

487
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:43.039
I have also noticed when they interview
psychiatrists and ask them, in particular,

488
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.239
for example, to see what you
think of Donald Trump? It' s

489
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:55.840
Tonal Trumpo narcissistic. So serious psychiatrists
always say I can' t answer you

490
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:01.320
if Donald Trump is narcissistic or not, because I haven' t treated him

491
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:07.400
and I' ll have to make
a series of protocols to know and say

492
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:13.320
yes is a clear narcis to see, there' s what would happen to

493
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.559
see, but based on this,
since I can indicate that he has narcissistic

494
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.760
traits. I mean, that'
s the big difference. That' s

495
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:22.920
the difference, and I think John
and Salazar really stressed it here. In

496
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:28.159
the programs that we have to create
your life on mental health, it is

497
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:32.039
one thing to have narcissistic disorder and
another thing is to have the narcissistic traits

498
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:37.519
that can be talked about now.
There are issues that get fashionable. There

499
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.280
are also issues that get fashionable and
then, as anyone talks about any topic,

500
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:45.639
ah also that as well as that
everyone and apart comes as for like

501
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:49.400
onditas, not that it' s
like the wave comes and we' re

502
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.199
all going to talk about I don' t know about a type of bipolarity

503
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:57.079
health. Everyone talks about bipolarity.
Then, of which is like these subjects,

504
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.239
then you have to be as very
careful also to know to go to

505
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:07.840
the sources and investigate who is giving
these sayings so that we can take and

506
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:09.960
say ah good this information, whether
it is valid or not. Then we

507
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:14.280
have another one, which is the
one that is very important. I think

508
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:24.800
we need to discuss what a consultation
is. The consultations are advice provided by

509
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:30.800
experts in response to specific questions,
which is when you go to the doctor,

510
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.000
which is when you go to the
psychiatrist that when you go for example,

511
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:39.079
with me, when you come to
talk, innovation and entrepreneurship issues are

512
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:50.239
personalized according to the situation or need
of the consultant, based on technical knowledge

513
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.920
that professional experience usually involves a detailed
analysis and concrete recommendations. For example,

514
00:41:54.639 --> 00:42:01.039
I consulted a nutritionist to develop a
food plan suitable for my needs. I

515
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:06.079
mean, the nutritionist isn' t
going to say oh well, because it

516
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.320
' s that you fit a 14- day tops and then we see that

517
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.639
you don' t what, because
and this you' ve talked about so

518
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.920
much, not what made you weight
up. We need to investigate, we

519
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.039
need to do an analysis. He
bleeds to see me tell me ah and

520
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.679
there' s an individual thing.
It' s a personal thing. It

521
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:30.559
' s one thing that that'
s where the Mister Doctor here plays an

522
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.880
important Marifer fiber when he already gives
advice regarding weight loss, writing with blue

523
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.480
pen and doing the long letter.
Well, that' s just, I

524
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.400
mean, he' s right.
It' s the doctor you want to

525
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:45.079
see and he can talk nice,
ugly regular, but he' s right,

526
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.719
I mean, the part that'
s happening is a fallacy, because

527
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.760
it' s not true. You
may vent by writing as a tool,

528
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:57.559
as we have said your anxieties.
But that' s where that' s

529
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.840
going to change your way of eating
and it' s going to lower your

530
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.239
body fat level. Well, no, no. That is why there are

531
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:12.239
increasingly more specialized scales and more specialized
nutriologists and that is why there is also

532
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.079
specialized exercise. You remember how they
used to say. Hey, now you

533
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.760
can go down with this diet,
you' re gonna lower the fat on

534
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.719
your fingers. Tiny doesn' t
exist. No, I was saying no.

535
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:27.119
No. With this diet no more
you' re going to get off

536
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.639
your hips either. When you give
a diet, your body will function as

537
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.320
a teda that will work and lose
weight. But there is no such thing

538
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.280
as so specific. And he'
s already seen it. The problem is

539
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:45.000
that we continue to believe that there
are magic remedies and I think that also

540
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:50.039
if we talk about Mariferi' s
case and I' m going to address

541
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:54.800
it, hints from the point of
view of references and how they are cited,

542
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.199
not how sources are cited. You
and I commented, Lupis, that

543
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:07.159
a few hours ago posted a twitter, not a I don' t know

544
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.079
if you want to share it,
but well he shared it here. Got

545
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.800
it. I' ve got it
here because he put it in since last

546
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:19.239
night too. Marifer Centeno shared it
since last night in her instagram and she

547
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.639
says we had talked and well,
I, at least, I, at

548
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:31.239
least I had mentioned several things.
Marifer Centeno has not faced things and or

549
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:37.639
had pretended that nothing had happened and
that everything was going on and I keep

550
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.920
reading faces and letters and giving advice
and so on without giving importance and he

551
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:47.000
was summoned to different programs that did
not help him much, because all it

552
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:52.400
seemed is that Marifer was ignoring,
of course, what was going on around

553
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:57.440
his expertise, his person or his
character or how they want to call him

554
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.280
yesterday I said in this program in
all peace. I didn' t say

555
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:04.920
it in history, but I can
say it right now. I said that

556
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.159
if I hadn' t extended an
invitation to her, I hadn' t

557
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.360
spoken to her or anything like that, it' s because I' d

558
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.599
be exposing Marifer again to a public
scorn. And it' s not the

559
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:15.880
idea because they don' t have
or didn' t have damage control.

560
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.719
Or he doesn' t have a
damage control, he doesn' t have

561
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.159
a structure that can contain all this
so that Yapa went out to defend himself.

562
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:28.639
And well, finally yesterday there was
a reaction from Marifer regarding the issue

563
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:34.039
that I think is late, but
well it says in Mexico the subjects of

564
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:40.400
graphology and graphoscopy exist so much that
they are contemplated in the judicial bulletin admitted

565
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:46.719
as auxiliary expert evidence to provide to
the judges and magistrates and other authorities elements

566
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:52.800
to reach a legal truth. The
Colegio Mexicano de Grafología y Criminalística is that

567
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:57.320
was founded in the early two thousand
years and is a group of expert investigators

568
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:01.599
charged with divulging, studying to go
rns the latter. Its primary characteristic,

569
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:07.239
among other disciplines, is graffiti to
everyone who wants to learn. We'

570
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:13.960
re not a bachelor' s degree. There and apart from the first seeing

571
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:19.159
reading as well as from So,
we already recognize that we are not a

572
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:23.840
bachelor' s degree. However,
the students who successfully conclude the skills that

573
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:30.239
are taught here this part I will
underline is. I repeat them. We

574
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:37.800
are not, however, the students
who successfully complete the skills taught here.

575
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:43.199
You can' t satisfy the skills. Skills are held or not held,

576
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:49.360
developed or not developed. Then I
can try to teach you a skill.

577
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.400
They tried to teach me how to
paint countless and tired of no. I

578
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:57.199
can' t paint, I can' t draw. Then there' s

579
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.960
no way. But, she says
that students who successfully complete the skills taught

580
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:06.719
here have the elements to obtain the
registration of competencies before the SEP in their

581
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:13.440
program. I know to know in
the same way if you wish, to

582
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:21.360
register with the secret TPS as an
external enabler of it, of the same,

583
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.079
not of that of this I do
not understand. You understand what this

584
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:29.519
was It was as if you noticed. He' s very upset because he

585
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:30.239
says you, we' re not
a bachelor' s degree. However,

586
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:36.480
students who successfully complete the skills taught
here have the elements to obtain registration in

587
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:43.159
the competence competence before the CEP.
In your program you know in the same

588
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:50.480
way if you want to register with
the STPs as an external enabler of it.

589
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:58.199
But I don' t see what
the STP is, because I don

590
00:47:58.239 --> 00:47:59.400
' t explain it to us,
that' s it. The text is

591
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:05.039
also very conmo. You also leave
many, many s but aside, you

592
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:09.000
also start to read because it is
a slightly long text. It is also

593
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:14.000
interesting because it continues to defend ghofology
as a science. And in the end

594
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:15.800
that this that I would like that
is what I wanted to comment on.

595
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:22.039
In the end he cites an exact
series of authors. But if you allow

596
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.880
me immediately to accredit the knowledge you
give him in matter, being able to

597
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.760
participate in a trial as expert of
part. I mean, she keeps holding

598
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:36.280
that if you graduate from her Mexican
College of Grafology school, you' re

599
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:38.599
going to be an expert and you' re going to be able to participate

600
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:40.880
in a trial. On the other
hand, as in all parts of the

601
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:45.480
world and even more in social networks, there are people who misinform, are

602
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:49.920
not constructive and are dedicated to pretending
and discrediting on fundamentals. This part seems

603
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.760
to me like it' s already
a personal defense that I wouldn' t

604
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.840
need to do if what you do
was perfectly backed up. And she calls

605
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:04.599
this a bullying log they' re
making her. It says on social networks,

606
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.239
you can distort the information. He
says what he did on the show

607
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:14.360
today I hold and I' m
convinced that emotions can make us sick.

608
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:20.719
We all know that. Stress can
cause a lot of disorders, among others.

609
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.400
Eating from anxiety or eating from depression. And it' s not my

610
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:28.719
invention in the authors we' ve
talked about. And he quotes Luis Hey

611
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.679
who is also an alternative, which
is also an alternative. What she says

612
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:38.239
is neither absolute truth nor scientific truth. That on the one hand, on

613
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:44.800
the other hand, she, on
the show today did say that emotions make

614
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.239
you fat because you have anxiety.
That' s what he said, but

615
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:52.880
he also said that graphology and changing
your handwriting could change that behavior. When

616
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:59.199
I consider how personal your behavior is
to the contrary, modify your writing too,

617
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.800
which is the secret of graphology,
graphoscopy is to validate the authenticity of

618
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:13.960
graphology. I could be the one
who can tell you, like Jaubert did,

619
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:16.320
what emotional conditions that person might be
in because of the way he wrote.

620
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.760
But the way he wrote it won' t change the other way around,

621
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.440
which is not because I write diff
is not but good, good.

622
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:30.119
What you say here then is that
he mentions a lot of authors and he

623
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:38.360
also says he takes advantage to say
that he joined Daniela Parra that this seems

624
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:46.880
to me with absolutely all the peace
of the universe, his papacy manipulative,

625
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:52.840
because you are joining a person who
has become a victim in everyone' s

626
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.880
eyes and is fine. That'
s how it works for Daniela, because

627
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.840
she' s a pain in the
ass, but I don' t think

628
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:01.719
I know, but she has something
to say in this discussion. Also no,

629
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.599
because if I don' t see
what that means, I don'

630
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:09.159
t know what Daniela Parra has to
do with this whole problem, more than

631
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:13.000
like a Daniela Parra if she defends
a real, tangible thing that we know.

632
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:19.239
It was a real case we'
ve seen, of course, but

633
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:20.719
Marifer, I think it' s
gone. Well, I don' t

634
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.480
know what you think. Yeah,
look, then, like I tell you

635
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:29.360
after all this I don' t
really make it very clear how many,

636
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:36.559
many loose ends are left at the
end cites a series of studies, not

637
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.360
a series of names, names is
not sources. So I, as curious

638
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:45.320
as I am, tend me and
I' m looking for them because I

639
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:45.320
don' t, but I didn' t think them here is already.

640
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.800
If you want I' ll tell
you as if, say it to see

641
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:57.360
Mira, as I know I am
without giving. Then tell me asada ajá

642
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.639
see expert documents before the courts of
Justice, School of Legal Medicine of Madrid,

643
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.880
Homer, Emmanuel f Test of graphic
projectives of Barcelona, creation expert calligraphic,

644
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:14.760
graphic and manuscript Dickinson, Madrid,
as well as Augusto Betz, Francisco

645
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:19.960
Viñals, Ricardo Alberto Fernández, María
Luz Puente, Evelyn Aguilera, Arce Palmiro

646
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:27.000
Viñas, Amadeo Palliser, María Joseph
Claret, López Monserratedo Miquel, Isabel Sánchez,

647
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:31.440
bernoue Germán, Belda García Fresca,
Julio Cabilli, Cavali, Juan Allende

648
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:35.920
del Campo, all with a normal
judgment, without fallacies of authority of perverse

649
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:37.920
traits. We understand that in the
networks, in short, those are the

650
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:44.880
authors that already cites good. Then
it' s interesting because I, as

651
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:47.280
curious as I am, started looking
for why. Because if someone writes you

652
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:52.639
in the chat how boring when we
start with this anecdote that I told you

653
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:59.360
about Bora and this so- called
irving this one, why? Because how

654
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:05.880
easy when an event can manipulate you
to see everyone is clear to us that

655
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.639
the holocaust happened to everyone, but
this person tried to change, so,

656
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:19.280
to change using data, to change
the narrative in his favor. Then I

657
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:23.360
started to investigate who these people are. And, in fact, if you

658
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:27.679
google the vast majority of these people
because I' m not going to talk

659
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.960
about each one of them, yes, they' re graphologists, but you

660
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:34.320
also get to see that reading articles
and they' re also called that they

661
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.239
' re a pseudoscience. At no
time are they said to be neurologists.

662
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:43.280
No time at all. At no
time is this mentioned now something also very

663
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:49.039
interesting. He is one of the
authors, researchers or experts in this subject

664
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.960
that he also cites, it is
also used in a way says. It

665
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:59.199
' s not that this person is
an expert on this subject. Well,

666
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:02.199
the reality is that also this person
who is engaged in is not in graphology,

667
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:12.320
but is engaged in the study of
interpretive drawings. I mean, well,

668
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:16.400
but let' s see, but
that' s known to be that,

669
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:21.679
yeah, it' s that,
yeah, it' s a tool,

670
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.400
that' s a tool that if
you use it in psychiatry, that

671
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:27.480
is, there are studies about it, and so on, because it'

672
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.360
s projection. No, I mean, it' s something else. So

673
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:37.800
these people who also cite, because
neither do they endorse their saying because,

674
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:43.639
well, I too can say things
and I can also publish things, but

675
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:51.360
no, that is what they argue, does not change. It does not

676
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:58.320
change the sense of what is being
discussed exactly. We can all miss lupita.

677
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:06.199
We' re all salty people.
All academics are fallible people. There

678
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:08.719
have also been many who have to
go out with their tails between their legs,

679
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:13.079
say sons. Yes, I want
to work, but excuse me,

680
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:15.000
I married fifty million dollars, but
I didn' t. He didn'

681
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:19.920
t come out in the end.
That is, yes, it can happen

682
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:23.800
too It may also be that,
for example, researchers who publish very serious

683
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:30.440
books that have to have a second
edition to correct, not put exact rat.

684
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.199
Of course, correcting them is the
only thing, the only thing I

685
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:39.719
think that for you to have this
credibility is to be able to say yes

686
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:47.400
I was wrong and not try to
put third people arguments like that is that

687
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:51.679
it' s bullying, it'
s that they don' t like me,

688
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:52.639
it' s that they don'
t want me, that' s

689
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:52.480
that kind of thing. Yeah,
that' s what I' m saying.

690
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.719
No, you wouldn' t have
to mention them if what you do

691
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.960
is hold. I believe Marifer is
well, that doing what you do is

692
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.280
right, no, no, I
don' t say it to good.

693
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:07.599
Just put it where it belongs.
Marifer stops saying it' s a science.

694
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:12.400
Yes, you' ve been told
and I think it' s wrong,

695
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:20.960
because you take powers that don'
t correspond, like giving questions that

696
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.119
belong to the field of psychology,
for example, to that of emotions,

697
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:27.599
when there' s no preparation it' s okay that you know it there

698
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:31.320
' s nothing wrong with studying it
and knowing it and, like you said,

699
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:32.719
talking about it quote that source what
you can' t. You want

700
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:40.360
to work as you can and look
within these categories texts. I also add

701
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:44.880
something that is important, also that
I want to share with you, which

702
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:47.119
is what I also do, that
is, the subject of disclosure. I

703
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:53.119
mean, there are people like me
who are also science divulgators. I'

704
00:56:53.159 --> 00:57:00.239
m a neuroscience and neuroentrepreneur and I' m not a neuroscientist. I'

705
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:06.119
m going to explain what a science
divulgator is. So, a science divulgator

706
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:12.800
is people who communicate scientific information to
the public in an accessible and understandable way.

707
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.920
Generally, scientists. Not all of
them. There are super talented people

708
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:22.039
who have the gift of the word
and who are super entertaining, but in

709
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.320
general, scientists do not connect,
because with the public. So, that

710
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:31.199
' s why we come to the
science divulgators, who help that knowledge be

711
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:37.360
made, come to the masses.
So, what are the characteristics of science

712
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:45.000
divulgators? They are not necessarily scientists, but they have a good knowledge of

713
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:51.519
the issues they deal with. Its
aim is to educate and increase interest in

714
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:59.039
science. Don' t worry about
it. It is to educate and increase

715
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.079
interest in science. Have you become
curious to find out more about it.

716
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:07.719
They use platforms such as blogs,
videos, podcasts and social networks to reach

717
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:15.039
a wider audience for example, a
science communicator explains in a video how vaccines

718
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:22.199
work using simple language and everyday examples. So, that' s what science

719
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:29.840
divulgators do. I work with scientists
every day, with researchers every day from

720
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:34.519
different branches, and many of them, also those who I give coachin our

721
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:38.920
associations, one are researchers and then
I run all the information that I share

722
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:47.880
and that I ask them I interview. I have constant communication with them.

723
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.119
I' m looking for my sources, not just one, but two,

724
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:54.880
three, four or five to be
sure that the information I' m sharing

725
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:59.039
is the right one. But I' m never going to tell you Luis,

726
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:04.480
is that, according to neuroscience you
have to take vitamin or not at

727
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:07.960
all that you can' t.
No, but you can say according to

728
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:15.639
a study conducted by Dr David Circleir, who is a specialist in longevity issues

729
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:23.960
from Harvard University, that if you
improve on this type of vitamins, your

730
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:29.719
longevity is going to be greater,
very different from what I say. Make

731
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:32.400
it clear, of course, like
me, me, Leslie, I'

732
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:37.320
m telling you, and I recommend
it. Of course not exact, of

733
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:40.320
course not exact, of course not. That' s the big difference.

734
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:45.079
Then you have to be very careful. I also think it' s like

735
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:51.400
a shared responsibility. Yes, the
communicator, because social media has enormous power.

736
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:58.760
We have to get a responsibility.
Eye is not bad, of course,

737
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:02.559
that it is not bad that also
the people who have knowledge generate an

738
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:07.360
income of this knowledge, because also
enough work, put one to make the

739
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.599
content two to have this knowledge,
it is worth, it is worth that.

740
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:16.360
This is not the issue, but
you have to have the responsibility that

741
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:25.559
what you share is scientific and that
you also know how far your limitations go,

742
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:30.960
that you know what topics you can
talk about and what you don'

743
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:35.280
t. And those of us,
who consume this content, also that we

744
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:38.400
make the decision to decide or consume
this. There' s no way you

745
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:44.800
can see it, that you can
see it far away, considering that with

746
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.599
all the reserves in the universe and
you' re going to see it,

747
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:50.679
okay, you' re going to
take it into account, but you'

748
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:52.239
re not going to believe it.
Everything you' re not gonna do and

749
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.599
everything and look. I will give
them to close today with all peace,

750
01:00:55.800 --> 01:01:02.639
with absolutely all peace, and well
they will say no. That is not

751
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:06.719
with all peace, but if it
is net, it is with all peace

752
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:12.639
to see look. Indeed, it
is possible to collaborate with the prosecutor'

753
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:16.000
s office, because the prosecutor'
s office all over the world appeals to

754
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:22.440
what they need to solve a case. They appeal to mediums, they appeal

755
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:30.320
to graphologists, to face readers to
everything you want witnesses all to be able

756
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:34.239
to solve a case. Yeah,
it' s necessary, which doesn'

757
01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:37.639
t mean that you' re what
you do is a professional. You remember

758
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:44.599
the case in which the bala uy
participated was very small, but as a

759
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:50.079
naro, but I think everyone.
It was all clear when it was the

760
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:58.239
case of Raúl Salinas de Gortari,
the murder of Francisco Ruiz Massier and that

761
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:01.159
he had disappeared, that we never
knew about him. Painted Muñoz Rocha where

762
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:05.000
it disappears. And where is he, where is he? And then the

763
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:15.639
prosecutor' s office, for why
don' t you put this man the

764
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:17.760
bale, this woman the bale,
the seer the bale, which was the

765
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:20.000
one who told you. This is
not the obvious, this is one that

766
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.679
is digging, but this one that
is burrowing, the one that told you

767
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:29.480
is that here goes the prosecutor'
s office with the bale and that someone

768
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:31.159
tells you exactly this whole roll of
the bale. Really, Google investigate it

769
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:37.199
because it was true. The whole
society said they didn' t find Muñoz

770
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:39.800
Rocha anymore, because the bale already
told them where he is? Her?

771
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:43.559
It' s the bale, the
bale, which is a seer and already

772
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:45.639
told them it' s buried.
The body of deputy Muñoz Roche has already

773
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:49.199
been, the case has already been
resorbed. It was a lie, of

774
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:51.079
course, it was a lie.
Well, they went to the pit,

775
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:52.719
because I tell you, I was
celebrating very little. But it' s

776
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:57.440
those things that shock you, because
they were everywhere twenty- four seven and

777
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.239
there' s the news. So
they did go and go to the pit,

778
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.320
of course, and I think,
and very much with cameras and microphones.

779
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:06.880
Yeah, we' re live here
like the bale, the plate,

780
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.880
of course, the plate unwinds,
if I remember correctly, it was plate

781
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.920
unwind the procurator, because they also
made songs. I remember the stuffed animals

782
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:20.039
making songs. Well, but here' s the reality. The reality here

783
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:22.599
is that, of course, there
will be people. I do, I

784
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:28.079
think there are people who can see, who have faculties, who have this

785
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:31.320
ability, I think it is blindly, now that I don' t think

786
01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:36.199
there are 50 million in millions.
No. I don' t think they

787
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.760
' re unique, they' re
few, they' re determined, they

788
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:44.840
' re at times and so on. But the point here is that it

789
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:49.880
can be clear that you can participate
with the prosecutor' s office if you

790
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.519
bring them something that can serve them, or with the prosecution that is now

791
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:55.639
called no, which doesn' t
mean it is. And maybe Mrs Paca

792
01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:00.400
does have those faculties. Maybe,
yes, but not to move an entire

793
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:04.559
country and forgive me, tell me
what you want, but Mr Muñoz Rocha

794
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:10.760
' s remains have not appeared.
Pau Pau tells me yes, Lupita.

795
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:14.639
That story was true, no yes, but the remains never appeared maybe so,

796
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:16.920
yes, they had their powers for
other things, but to appear to

797
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:21.400
the MP it was not possible.
So this part of me is relative.

798
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.239
The prosecutor' s office gives me
work and receives me. That' s

799
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:32.480
very relative. Yes, because we
had also heard in some other people that

800
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:34.679
there has been much talk about this
issue, which they also say. Well,

801
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:39.599
an expert also kind of now that
the lawyers themselves can qualify you.

802
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:43.360
So, he' s an expert
on this, no, and you go

803
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:46.639
and register, and either, it' s not like you require too many

804
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:50.599
documents, that is, and we
also see how things are generated, unfortunately,

805
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:54.960
in the Mexican justice system. We
know how they are, unfortunately,

806
01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:59.760
that is also the exorte quality of
judges and professionals in the Mexican position system,

807
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:02.280
because it is not the best.
Then we see that also through corutelas,

808
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:06.719
friends, etcetera, because they are
also given to them exactly by examining

809
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:13.599
these experts, for time to say
goodbye to Sweden so that you will already

810
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:16.199
rest tonight there, this afternoon,
here late in Mexico City, late here

811
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:21.880
in Canada, here in Vancouver,
but also from supernight there lesley hears and

812
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:27.639
so international that we are and to
part this schedule like Lupita. I don

813
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:31.360
' t know what we' re
gonna do when you get back to Mexico,

814
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.360
but we do, we could do
it, I still have a little

815
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:38.840
bit left here in Vancouver. So
we can do something else in due course.

816
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:43.519
Look, lupita, it' s
not a no, but it'

817
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.920
s not certified by the CEP.
They' re not professionals, they fall

818
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.000
into another category. They are not
exactly advertised as professional careers. Jacobo Greenberg,

819
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:55.079
in his time a psychologist, a
physiologist, tried precisely to test the

820
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:59.079
theory of Sintergia in time, of
course and fine. But the joke is

821
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:03.800
that Jacob Greenberg became a scientist,
as clear as casjun was a scientist.

822
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And there, yes, there are
many bases to talk about rupper and many

823
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:13.920
of those theories that we have today, because they come as from these thoughts

824
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:18.239
of the moment of the aha not
that in their time they seem crazy,

825
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:23.199
because also to be scientific and to
be able to generate this knowledge you have

826
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:26.679
to also dare. Of course,
how do you shape it, then say

827
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:29.960
hey no. But if we do
it like this, then you change.

828
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:33.559
And that' s what' s
made us have computers today, we can

829
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:38.800
have the Internet, we can have
electricity. Hey, all these things are

830
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:44.039
from people who have had, who
have broken the not that imagination completely,

831
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:48.559
who have discovered things. Not bad, but you just have to be.

832
01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:51.000
There' s got to be.
It' s a wonderful thing. This

833
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:56.039
is how knowledge is generated. You
have to keep being curious all the time,

834
01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.719
questioning and every time we question more, we learn more exo. Well,

835
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.400
now we do say goodbye. Dear, leslie and thanks to all those

836
01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:06.760
who are members of this channel,
those who are your good of the two

837
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:13.119
channels of grace are members of history
in history and of this program with all

838
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:16.280
peace. Lupita, Pastor Martinez,
thank you for being here, thank you

839
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:20.519
for following us Alice, thank you
for moderate and also follow life. Liga,

840
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:25.360
follow me to the miss fierre books
where you tell us where all the

841
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:29.400
dice are going to follow you,
Ahorita, I' m trying to make

842
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:33.599
this tiktok era, but enter gramera
of all the lupis to see how they

843
01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:39.119
follow you in tiktok miss fere les
Lee, in all social networks, in

844
01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:45.320
ou, in Twit, inist,
miss fire isquiers Lee on all social networks

845
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:46.760
sr Lesley. There' s miss
Fear Lesley. So you can follow it

846
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:54.760
on IT, on Instagram, on
tiktok on Twitter, Twitter that will never

847
01:07:54.760 --> 01:08:00.280
be called x. There they can
be denied by celebrities. This is good,

848
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:02.039
because thank you all very much and
we will see each other at night,

849
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:04.760
at night, we will see each
other in peace here. Thank you

850
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.880
so much for joining us and in
the most night in history, in history,

851
01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:14.079
we meet later guys and thank you
very much. Thank you, so

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01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:15.600
come on, it' s

