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Coming to you from Beautiful Studio a
here at proven winners Color Choice Shrubs.

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It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show
with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick vis

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To, and our engineer and producer
Adrianna Robinson. All Right, Stacy,

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today we're gonna sing the blues.
We're gonna celebrate the color blue, one

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of my favorite colors. Blue.
As a matter of fact, I think

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most of my clothes are either blue
or black. I think that those who

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watch us on YouTube might know that. Yeah, exactly so. Now,

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of the multitude of known flowering plant
species in the world, less than ten

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percent produce blue flowers. I can't
prove that that's just what I read,

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but blue is a little rare in
plants, even rarer in the animal world.

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Although if you think about it,
bluebirds, blue jay's indigo buntings,

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even the eggs of a robin are
blue. Right, Yes, and blue

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jays are very abundant around here.
Exactly. We experienced blue hues as cool

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and find them calming, soothing and
relaxing. And in the garden, blue

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flowers have another interesting quality. They
seem to recede from us. Now,

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not recede as an seed but ceed
I knew that because so many blue flowers

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are very hard to grow, and
if they were to be able to recede,

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people would be altier exactly. Now. I love this quote from my

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friend Alan Armitage. He's a professor
at the University of Georgia in Athens.

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When he talks about blue, he
says, blue is genetically a difficult color

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to find. When it's dark,
it's purple, when it's light, it's

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lavender. So the perfect blue is
the apex. Blue is the most elusive,

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most coveted color in gardening. Stacy. Do you agree, I'd say,

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yeah, that's probably true. I
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a hydrangea perspective, then yes.
But you know, when you think about

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all of the other truly just you
know, breathtaking blue flowers, the one

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that leaps to mind for me is
uh Mecanopsis, the Himalayan poppy, a

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plant that everybody wants to grow,
but very few people can. Delphinium as

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another great example. People love them
the color. You know, when you

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look closely at a delphinium, it
really is breathtaking. It is stunt,

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but it doesn't They don't really do
super well and really hot clements. Of

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course, there's been some breeding that's
changed that. But you know, I

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think that blue hydrangels, Mecanopsis,
and Delphinium are probably three plants that people

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really really really wish they could grow
well and very often cannot. So yeah,

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I would, I would say that's
true. But then there are some

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other great ones like, um,
you know, Brunera has beautiful blue flowers,

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gorgeous and a lot of beautiful blue
foliage too with hostas. I think

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what we'll do is we're gonna give
you a list at Gardening Simplified OnAir dot

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com. We'd love to have you
visit our website some of these favorites.

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Of course, interestingly enough, blue
does have some negative connotations feeling blue,

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blue with cold, and in some
cultures it's the color of mourning, and

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yet I don't know those references.
Notwithstanding, it's arguably the most popular color

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in the United States and the United
Kingdom, as I understand it, at

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least they have my vote. Yeah, problem, I would say that that

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makes sense cars, you know,
yeah, clothes, all that kind of

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stuff. Yeah, exactly, So
using blue in the garden is great.

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And of course we've talked about what
a hot summer. It's been for some

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folks too, and when you put
blue in the garden, it kind of

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gives you an oasis cooling effect.
And I'll tell you what I guess tops

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on our list has to be right
off the bat. Hydrange has to be

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has to be yes, of course, but not all hydranges, just hydrange

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of Macrophylla or the big leaf hight
range. Also to a lesser extent hydrange

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of Serrata, which is closely related. But when as we'll discuss in plants

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on track, which I'm guessing spoiler
alert for our listeners out there is going

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to be a hydrangea um, you
know other types like panica hydrange of smooth

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hydrange as those cannot change color.
So it's well, we'll talk a lot

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more about color and plants on travel
sounds good. Now, I know you

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have a favorite perennial stacy at least
I think you've mentioned this am Sonia love

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Amnia y am sonia. There's a
storm cloud blue star and oh, you

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want to talk about a stunning blue
in the landscape. Now, I like

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something as simple as Festuca glauco,
which is just a little short blue grass.

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I like that too. I don't
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for a number of years I was
mister green Thumb on the ABC affiliate here

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in West Michigan, and that was
my TV name for Stuca Glauca. It

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was that was my TV name and
people could pronounce it, yeah, for

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Stuca Glauca. That was my name, mister green Thumb for Stuca Glauca.

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It's a very nice plant, very
very durable, very pretty. Now a

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plant that I don't have a lot
of experience with, but I have real

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interest in. Is sea holly erheenium
I believe is how it's pronounced. Perfect

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for cut flower gardens. There's a
variety called steel blue. I can't believe

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the color blue for that plant,
sea holly. And then Stacy, we

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would be a miss if we did
not bring up chiriopters. Oh, of

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course, blue Beard. It's right
in the name Blue Miss Spyrheo if you

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prefer that name. Is charriopters relatively
easy for folks to grow, extremely easy

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to grow as long as you have
sun in well drained soil, very durable,

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very easy to grow. If you're
successful with butterfly bush, chances are

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you're going to be successful with Chariopterus
as well, and you know it's great

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because it blooms so much later in
the season. A lot of these other

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blue flowers we've talked about our more
early season, you know, like the

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blue Himalayan poppy, the am Sonia. Those bloom earlier in spring, whereas

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chariopters really starts to come into its
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Vitex. I love that plant?
Is it? Blue Diddley? Blue Diddley

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is the variety that we offer through
proven winters. Yeah, all right,

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I love vitech In the heat of
summer, that plant still to me smells

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like vix vapor rubb. I can't
help it. It just does annual salvia

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like playing the blues rock and blue
suede shoes. Fabulous. Draw all kinds

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of hummingbirds to my garden on Cape
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Delphinium and campanula in bloom. Of
course, with bulbs you've got muscarrie,

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grape, hyacinth, Siberian squill,
of course, hyacinths. That color is

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amazing. Pansies you have some pansies
with unbelievable beautiful blues. Yeah, yeah,

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classic blueberries of course, Agapanthus,
lily of the nile. Love that

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plant, Streptocarpella. And I'm amazed
at the number of varieties like above the

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clouds or water slide as it relates
to hosta blue hostas like blue hostas.

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I think they're lovely. I mean
I can't grow them. I did hear

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someone say that they thought that deer
had more difficulty seeing the blue hostas at

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night, and so they were less
likely to be eaten. I definitely did

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not find that to be the case
myself. But your mileage may vary.

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As they say, I'm gonna test
that theory. I love that. I'm

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not endorsing it, just say from
my experience, but I'm putting it out

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there. I have a favorite flowering
annual and hanging baskets at Scavola. Oh.

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Scaevola native to Australia can really handle
the heat. Did you know that

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that is the plant that lunched the
Provenmentner's brand No idea, Yes, so

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they were trying to they Yeah,
they found the scavola in Australia. It

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was used as hanging basket because it's
very drought tolerant, very heat tolerant.

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Very easy to grow. But um, you know, they were like,

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how are we going to introduce this
plant that no one in the US has

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ever heard of? How are we
going to build up their trust that this

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is a good plant. And so
some growers got together to propagate and market

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it and that was the birth of
Proven Winners annuals that is intrust So that

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was Whirlwind Blue. I like that, which is not really around so much

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anymore. But I am growing a
blue and a white scavola. And this

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is the first time I think I've
had him in my garden. And I

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we're talking about blue flowers, but
I am absolutely in love with them,

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so vigorous. It just covered in
flowers, just a fantastic lip. Each

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of the flowers looks like a hand, an outstretched hand. You had mentioned

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Brunera, of course, Agastanchi beautiful
blue color, and of course a favorite

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of both Stacy and mine, Baptisia, the decadence blueberry Sunday you gotta grow.

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Yeah, so pretty Veronica or Speedwell, and we had we had talked

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about perennial geranium last week. You
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Add geratum, of course, Russian
sage, proven winners Denim and Lace.

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Lavender has got to be on the
list proven winners Sweet Romance. There's another

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one on the list, some of
the supertunias. I'm amazed at the blue

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color, and of course morning glories, Angelonia and Pulmonaria is another one in

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the media. The list goes on
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going this year. That's a blue
annual? Is blew my mind? Oh

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yes, and that is a truly
gorgeous blue the only thing. And I

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do love it, except that I
realized this weekend as I was admiring it,

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I'm like, wow, I haven't
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like what's wrong with me? And
I realize it's only open during the day.

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The flowers are only open during the
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So by the time I'm coming home
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so on a beautiful Saturday, I'm
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makes sense. So that's a plan
to enjoy, you know, when you're

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home. But such a beautiful blue
color. And you know, one of

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my other favorites is um the crystal
blue salvia from Provenmentners. The color Riot

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Crystal blue. That is such an
incredible color. I mean, it's one

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of those clores most blues are,
but you have to see it to believe

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it, because it's just so hard
to actually believe it's such a beautiful true

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blue. You of course have the
Nopetta's Cats Meow Cats pajamas. Again,

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the list goes on and out.
We'll put the list at Gardening Simplified on

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aair dot Com. I love combining
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blue. You know, I think
we may have just contradicted ourselves. How

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did we do that well? Because
we were talking about how rare blue is,

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and we spent the last five minutes
listing off our favorite blue flowers,

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saying not only that we love them, but that we grow them so But

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that said, you know, there
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a little thing that the industry is
guilty of, and that is horticultural blue.

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A lot of times the industry will
call something blue that is blue adjacents,

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not a true true blue. But
color is very subjective. But in

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any case, you can find something
on the blue spectrum to grow. It

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might not be your dream blue,
it might not be that amazing Meknopsis himila

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and blue poppy. But you can
find something close enough to blue to satisfy

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that blue craving. Exactly, blue
tulips, blue tulips. I love blue

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tulips. They have blue tulips.
Blue tulips. Well, actually they're not

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blue, yeah, exactly, they
call them blue. We've got a blue

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tulip. No blue tulips. It's
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And there's no blue roses either.
And this all has to do with

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the uh, you know, pigments
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get to that color because they don't
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within them. I'm still waiting.
Well, you know there's in the case

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of both roses and tulips, there's
plenty of other fabulous colors to choose from.

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Son. If you have a favorite
blue, you your two lips and

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Show where we do not have the
blues, but we're talking about blue all

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day long here. And you know, when it comes to plants on Trial,

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if blue is in the conversation,
there's even though we have the chariopterus,

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even though we have the Vitex that
Rick mentioned before, there's one clear

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choice here and I'll bet you predicted
it when you thought of the Blue show,

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no question. I'm gonna have to
be a blue big leaf hyderanja.

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And my pick for today's plant on
Trial is brand new Let's Dance sky View

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hydranget. Wasn't that the winner of
Shrub Madness this year? Yes it was.

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As a matter of fact, it
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hydrangees are the ones that turn blue, and not all hydranges can change color

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based on their soil chemistry, but
it's the big leaf hydrange is, like

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Let's Dance Skyview that can. And
so let's just clear this upright off the

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bats. Yes, you need to
have a cidic soil for a hydrangea that

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can turn blue like Let's Dance sky
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not the whole equation. You also
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the soil. And we talked about
this a few weeks ago, but it's

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always good to refresh everyone's memory about
it. So you need to have a

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cidic soil and there needs to be
aluminum in it. And if those two

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things are true and you have a
hydrangeer that can turn blue, then it

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will be blue. And just which
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pH but it's primarily genetic. You
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I saw the most beautiful blue hydrangea, and I can just approximate these

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conditions and my hydrangel will be that
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They are individuals and they do differ
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every hydrangea that's capable of turning blue
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And Let's dand Skyview is one of
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it is a beautiful sky blue.
So it's not that like deep, deep,

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purply blue that some people call blurple. It sounded very funny blurple because

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it's a combination of blue and purple. But Let's dand Skyview is just that

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gorgeous like summer sky color, provided
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aluminum present in the soil for it
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of times people will buy and I'm
sure you heard this all a lot working

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in the garden center, they'll say, you know, whether it's an old

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fashion variety like Nico Blue or one
of our varieties like Let's Dance Blue Jangles

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or Let's dand sky View. They'll
say, hey, blue is right here

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in the name. Why isn't it
blue? And the simple fact is that

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under regular growing conditions at a nursery
or garden center, that potting mix does

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not favor blue the color the development
of blue flowers. It can be ascetic,

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but it does not have any illuminum
in it. So you are not

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going to be buying a blue hydrange
unless it has been specifically treated by the

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grower to have blue flowers. But
that doesn't mean that it won't change,

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of course, once it's in your
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your conditions are favoring the development of
that blue color. I'm still thinking about

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blurpool sounds like a Sesame Street character. I like somebody the cookie Monster was

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blue, wasn't he? Yes?
He wasn't it was? You proceed.

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You know, that's a good name
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No, I'm going to keep that
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Yeah, I like it. Uh, the royalties, we will make sure

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you get some for your garden at
least. So let's dand sky View is

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a special hydrange, not just because
it is capable of turning this you know,

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beautiful sky blue. And I do
want to mention that whether or not

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you have the conditions that favor,
you know, the development of blue.

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Hydranges are really beautiful as pink.
So you know, it's like a lot

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of people say, oh, it's
not blue, it's I'm so disappointed.

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Well, I mean they're pretty great
when they're pink as well, So you

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know, it's not one of those
things I think you need to, you

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know, break your neck trying to
turn your soil blue. And it's going

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to be so fabulous when it's in
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as well. So that's just But
what makes Let's dand sky View special is

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it is one of the newer Let's
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is hardy to USDA Zone four and
we only give that designation to a lot

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of hyder To macrophilla or big leaf
hydranges can survive in USDA Zone four,

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but they can't thrive. So they're
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live. They're never gonna bloom and
they're not going to do much for you.

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But in these few hydrangees that include
so Let's dand sky View and Let's

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Dance can do. They have the
ability to set their flower buds on the

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entire length of their stem. So
old fashioned types of hydrange is like the

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Nico blue that I mentioned, They
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terminals, just the tips of the
stems. Yeah, and so if it

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gets pruned by someone who doesn't know
what they're doing, if it gets hit

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by frost, if it gets browsed
by deer, if it gets you know,

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slid into by a softball game run
awry, it's gonna you know,

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all these things are possible. I've
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So if you lose those tips of
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basically September until it starts to flower
the following season, there go the flowers.

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Let's Dance sky View has the ability
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entire length of the stem, so
if it does get pruned accidentally, if

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it does get winter damage, you
know, you still have flower buds down

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there, close to the ground instead
of just way up at the top.

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And so you know, no matter
what happens, you have a better chance

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at getting flowers than you had with
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So that's something that really is you
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And Let's Dance can do hydrangea.
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so we were selecting for this trait
which can really help people, especially in

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colder climates, you know, be
successful with it. We also want faster

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reblooming, and you know, big
leaf hydrangeas are great. People get really

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excited because oh it's going to keep
blooming, but not all of them can

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rebloom quickly. A lot of them
will need a lot of different varieties will

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need to put on say six to
eight sets of leaves before they can create

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that flower bud, the new wood
flower bud, and it's going to need

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you know, once those leaves are
created, it's going to need extra time

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to create that. So a lot
of times, you know, those new

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wood flowers, you weren't seeing them
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we were looking to decrease that time
to rebloom. And so you're getting

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better preservation of the old wood flowers
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and all in all, that is
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package for big leaf hydranges. So, you know, this is a newer

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variety, but I think it should
have pretty good availability on the market and

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a lot of garden centers right now, even though it's late July. I

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know, we have listeners from all
over the country and some of them are

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like the garden center hah yeah,
right. It's one hundred and twenty degrees

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out here today. But if you
do live in a cooler climate, it's

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not too late to go to your
garden center as long as you'll be around,

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you know, for the next two
months to water it. It's a

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really great choice. Now, you
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you're going to want like partial shade, some sun, you know, and

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so many people we've talked about this
almost every time we've talked about hydrange as.

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People just naturally think they're a shade
plant and they want some shade.

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And the hotter your climate, the
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But some sun, ideally in the
morning, is really going to give you

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stronger stems, better resistance to diseases
like powdery mildew and other leaf spots,

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better flower color. That's, you
know, really important because if it's in

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too much shade again, it's going
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and not that bright color. And
you know, hydrange of foliage can obviously

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a lot of people resent it because
that's all they see because they're not growing

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the right kind of hydranges and they're
not getting the flowers. But it is

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quite attractive. So you want to
do everything you can to make that plant

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as attractive as possible by giving it
the right amount of light. Yes,

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they want a lot of water.
You can help mitigate that with multi Hydrangea

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is one of those must mulch kind
of plants. In my opinion, they

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naturally have shallow roots, so they're
going to lose the water that they have

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really quickly. And because this is
a big leaf hydrangea, you know what

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that means, no pruning, low
maintenance. Even though you can prune it,

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even though it has this ability to
set those flower buds down the entire

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length of its stem, we still
don't recommend that you prune it because if

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you do, you still are reducing
the potential for flower buds to warm on

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it. There's few or flower buds. And when it comes to hydrangeas,

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I think we can all agree that
more flowers is what we want. You

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sold me based on all those functional
aspects of the plant. If you're keeping

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score at home, we're talking about
let's dance sky view big leaf Hydrangea in

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the garden center, Stacy, I
just simply aside from the functional aspects,

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it is just plain gorgeous. And
you mentioned garden centers. Yes, in

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the garden centers. Many people may
not know this, but in garden centers

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many times they'll just dress somebody up
to look like a shopper and put some

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plants on their cart and roll them
around the garden center because people experience something

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called kart envy. And in the
garden center, I have seen people look

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at sky View Let's Dance Hydrangea and
wow, what is that? Where'd you

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get it? I want one for
me. So understand that in a garden

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center there's something that goes on called
kurt envy. Oh I like that.

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You know that happens to the grocery
store too. Yeah, exactly. Oh

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that looks good. Where'd you get
that? Exactly? Yeah? That sounds

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like a good idea for dinner.
So I hope you've got a fabulous picture

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of what Let's Dance sky View Hydrangel
looks like in your mind. But you

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can check that out against the real
thing at Gardening Simplified on air dot com.

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You can check out our show notes. We'll have pictures all the information

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you need to know about what makes
Let's Dance sky View special and how you

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can grow it successfully. We're going
to take a little break and when we

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come back, we're going to open
up that mailbag and answer your question.

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Look for them at your local garden
center. Greetings, gardening friends, and

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welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It is one of my absolute favorite

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times of the entire week because on
the Gardening Simplified Show, one of the

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things that we do to help simplify
gardening for you is answer your gardening questions.

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And being the height of the season, I know there's lots of stuff

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on everyone's mind, so let's open
up the mailbag and see what's out there.

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I like it too, I have
lots of questions. How did I

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get here? What am I doing
here? Okay, Margot writes to us,

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I love your show. Rick is
so funny and Stacy is so smart.

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Now I agree with that, Margo. Thank you. Stacy is one

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of the smartest people I know.
And thank you for recognizing that I have

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a sense of humus. That's just
the way I wrote. That's very nice

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for you and Margo to say,
But I do have to just qualify this

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a little bit. You know,
gardening is one of those things that is

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really about experience. Yes, there's
a lot of things that you can memorize,

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plant names, you know. I
am humbly good at plants identification because

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I've internalized a lot of that.
But like a lot of the advice that

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I give and things that both you
and I say, they come from experience.

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And in that way, everybody can
become a better gardener because it is

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based on what you observe an experience, and that's why it's so important to

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you know, be engaged and to
observe what happens no matter what the weather.

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But Margo, I appreciate you saying
so, yeah, and I appreciate

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that, and it is true.
I mean, all joking aside, you

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know, I think that's part of
what makes this show work too. I

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have many years of experience in the
garden center industry, and so this combination,

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Stacy, you are the true horticulturist, and I mean that you're one

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of the smartest people I know.
And so you combine someone like me who's

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a plant enthusiast with you, a
true horticulturist, I think it works.

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Oh, thank you, that's so
kind of you. To say, so

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it's fun. I love doing the
show all right too. So let's get

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to Margo's question. Now that we've
got that out of the way. I

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am an entremneur. Okay. My
question is I live in the p NW,

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where it can be very damp Pacific
Northwest. Yes, I just caught

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that many of my trees and shrubs
have been neglected for over fifteen to twenty

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years. Now I'm discovering a lot
of moss and lichens covering the branches,

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and I'm really not liking it.
Well done, Margo good Sense did specifically

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right liking l h ns. Love
it. She knew who she was sent

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in this message. Yeah, I
like Margo. How do I get rid?

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How do I rid my garden of
this? And I'm going to say,

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right off the tap, don't I
agree? I like moss, I

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like lichens. I also like moss
and lichens, and I think that m

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branches, you know, encrusted with
different species of moss and lichens, are

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truly truly beautiful and um interesting.
And you know, I love going to

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like more coastal areas. You know
that that humidity in the errors where they

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can really thrive, and it's like
a little garden of its own on a

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branch. And you know, margot
Rick and I aren't just telling you this

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to try to persuade you to come
to our side and like it. Um,

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we're telling you this because there's pretty
much nothing you can do. I

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mean not to be discouraging. I
never would want to just discourage people.

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But moss is one of those and
lichens as well, and a moss is

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a combination of a lichen and an
algae, so very similar. But you

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know, if conditions are right for
moss to grow, it will, plain

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and simple, that's just how it
works. Soil compaction, shade, moisture

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way, Yeah, there's a whole
lot of you know, humidity and all

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of those factors that go into it. And this is why people can't just

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say, oh, I want a
moss lawn. I'm going to have a

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moss lawn. Mosses is definitely one
of those plants. If it can grow

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it well, and if it can't, it won't. You can't really force

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it unless you radically change your conditions. And so there's really nothing that you

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can do. There's no pesticides,
even if you were inclined to spray,

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that are going to discourage the growth
of moss and lichens. You can spray,

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but they're simply band aids. If
the conditions are right, it's simply

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going to regrow. Yeah. Yeah, And you know it's just like you

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said, Margot, with the humidity
in the Pacific Northwest, the moisture in

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the air, the coolness, those
are all conditions that are right for that

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to grow. So you know,
the spores that these things put out to

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reproduce are so tiny and so microscopic
that there's really nothing you can do to

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stop them. The good news is
that it's rarely a problem. You know,

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even if you don't necessarily like it
from aesthetic standpoint, it's not going

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to harm the plant's health, you
know, especially like the small mosson like,

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and it's not going to get really
heavy and break branches or anything like

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that. Margo, I would accept
compliments on its robust growth. Get out

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there and flex your moscles. Well, you know what Marco did include a

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photo of it, and I felt
a little guilty when they opened next.

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I was like, that's gorgeous.
So sorry, Margo. I you know,

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again, don't want to discourage you, but it will put the photo

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on the show notes and the audience
can wait in as well. But I'm

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afraid that the best thing here is
is to just live with it and try

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to see the beauty and interest in
it. Thanks for the email, Margo,

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appreciate it. Christopher her Rights,
Hi, Stacey and Rick. My

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00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:06.559
husband and I are huge hydrangel lovers, especially proven winners varieties. Can you

402
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:11.960
talk a little about the difference between
the Invincibles Ruby, Mini, Mavette Garnetta

403
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.079
is what's the other one? Spirit? Is it an Invincible Spirit too,

404
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.599
Invincible Spirit too? Yes? Okay? Is it just size or are there

405
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:26.039
other differences? Of course there are
also the Green Blooms, Sublime Ricky,

406
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:32.039
Yes, Sublime and Lime Ricky so
yeah. So the Invincible series is we

407
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:37.480
introduced it about twelve years ago with
Invincible Spirit. And Invincible Spirit was the

408
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:42.480
first pink hydrangea arborescence or the first
pink annabel type hydrangea, and at the

409
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:47.119
time it was really quite a breeding
breakthrough. It was developed by doctor Tom

410
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.680
Rainey at North Carolina State University,
who we've talked about on the show many

411
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:55.960
many times, and like so many
breeding breakthroughs, once you've kind of you

412
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.720
cleared that first hurdle of getting a
pink flowering plant. The floodgates are open.

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And so what has happened is that
as Tom has continued to develop new

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varieties, he has a field at
his research station in North Carolina with literally

415
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hundreds and hundreds of different potential varieties. And with the Invincible series, when

416
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:19.640
it comes to us selecting them,
we're selecting for a range of sizes.

417
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:22.640
So we do want, you know, some very very small ones like in

418
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:26.720
Vincabele we white, and we do
want more of the conventional full size one

419
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.279
like they mentioned Invincible Sublime, which
gets to be about five feet tall and

420
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:34.759
wide. So we're going for a
wide range of sizes and to some extent,

421
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.240
a wide range of bloom times,
because some of them will bloom much

422
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.119
earlier and some of them will bloom
a little bit later in the season.

423
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Even though everything in the Invincible series
has some ability to rebloom, particularly if

424
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you deadhead it. It's not necessary, but if you want a deadhead it,

425
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.759
it will put out fresh flowers.
You know, you can really extend

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that season so you always have fresh
flowers through the garden. By combining these,

427
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.359
and of course the obvious difference is
the flower color, which is usually

428
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.200
right there in the name, So
you know, what we're trying to do

429
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.799
again is just to create that sort
of palette of a plant that is really

430
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.720
familiar to people, that they're comfortable
with growing, that they know they can

431
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.880
be successful with, but in a
wide range of you know, sizes and

432
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.319
styles, so that no matter what's
your taste, no matter how much space

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00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.279
you have, no matter what color
palette you're working with, there is an

434
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.799
option. But since they pretty much
all derive from the same breeding program,

435
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:37.599
you know, they're all similar in
terms of their needs and ultimately their performance,

436
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.720
how long they bloom and that kind
of thing. So they're great plants.

437
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.480
And if you you know, we
talked a lot about let's dand skybew

438
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.400
in plants on trial, So that's
going to be like a zone four hardy

439
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.680
if you live in a colder climate
or you just love the animal type hydrangeas,

440
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.039
these are going to be hardy to
USDA Zone three and heat tolerant to

441
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.720
USDA Zone eight. So a good
portion of the country can be successful with

442
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.559
them. Fabulous plants people keeping score
at home, Stacy. These are what

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00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:07.119
we would consider the arborescence or smooth
hydraane. Correct, right, Yes,

444
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.480
all right, Pat asks us,
I would like to know what thistle plant

445
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:14.039
I can grow in my flower garden
that would not be invasive, but yet

446
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.319
the goldfinches would eat the seed and
use the fluffy material from the thistle flower

447
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:22.000
for nesting. Great question, Pat, That's one of my favorite things about

448
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:27.200
globe thistle is watching the finches all
over it. And when we interviewed the

449
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:31.160
birdman a few months ago, he
of course reminded us that finches are late

450
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.799
nesters and we'll take advantage of it. Yeah. And I was really glad

451
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.559
passed this question too, because I
think it's a great one. And she

452
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.839
has a really good point, because
there are a number of invasive weedy thistles

453
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.000
in the US that you certainly would
not want to plant in your garden in

454
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:51.519
the attempt to attract goldfinches. But
I think you really made a great point

455
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.359
by mentioning the globe thistle. And
so the simple answer here, Pat,

456
00:32:54.400 --> 00:33:00.480
is that any plant in the daisy
family and the astacy, almost all of

457
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.960
them make some fluff on their seed
heads, and those are great choices.

458
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.160
You know, goldfinches are not limited
to thistle. They also love milkweed,

459
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:15.920
and milkweed has tons of fluffed incredible
and it's coming out at this time of

460
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.359
the year. So all of these
options, you know from whether they are

461
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.839
you know, out in the wild
or in your garden, provide a lot

462
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.119
of nesting material. And I've talked
about one of the I think you could

463
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.960
say signature plants in my garden Selfium, porfoliateum or cup plant just starting going

464
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:37.960
in my garden over the weekend last
weekend covered in goldfinches outstand. Yeah,

465
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.079
and so anything that has seed at
this time of the year, the goldfinches

466
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:43.640
will be all too happy to take
off your hands. Yeah. Add some

467
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:49.559
in your garden flowers and a cozens
also, I've found finches like zenias.

468
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:53.400
You can't beat that color combination.
All right, So thank everyone so much

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00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.200
for your questions. If you have
a question for us, just visit Gardening

470
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.480
Simplified on air dot com. You'll
find the show outs as well as a

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00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.279
contact form. We're going to take
a little break. When we come back.

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You know what time it is branching
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477
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.920
the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time
for branching news. Here's some breaking news.

478
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:42.119
We were chatting during the break and
our amazing engineer and producer Adriana Robinson

479
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.960
made a point about the finches,
because we're always looking for some fluff for

480
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:50.639
their nesting. You had an idea, yeah, hot tips. So I

481
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:55.639
have a Siberian husky who sheds all
the time, all year, and I

482
00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:00.880
like to brush him outside because I've
noticed that a lot of the goldfinches love

483
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:05.199
to scoop up a lot of that
fluffy hair he leaves behind and they take

484
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.159
it for their nests. So you
don't have to clean up inside, and

485
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.760
you're helping the birds out and they
probably don't even know the difference between milkweed

486
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.400
fluff and atlas fluff. So it
works for me. Absolutely. That can't

487
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.920
beat that, all right. You're
struggling to feel healthy. A new study

488
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:24.000
revealed how the weather and sunlight played
a significant role in US feeling better in

489
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.800
the summer than any other time of
the year. So two thousand US adults

490
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:35.760
revealed seventy five percent feel more encouraged
and healthy if the weather is perfect and

491
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:42.280
the skies are sunny. I'm kind
of like, duh, yeah, So

492
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.679
I don't even know why I'm bringing
this up, other than again, you

493
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:51.199
know, weak garden during the summer
season. Don't give up. Keep gardening

494
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:57.000
and enjoy the sunshine. It's not
a fig leaf of your imagination. When

495
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.880
you're out there in the sunshine working
in your garden, you're feeling good,

496
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.480
yeah, and you know, it's
good just to see all of the life.

497
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.079
And that's what I really realized recently
as I was like, you know,

498
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:12.119
in the winter, things are just
so like stagnant. You don't get

499
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.320
all the change. And you know, if you're sitting outside for even ten

500
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.719
minutes, so much happens, birds
and bugs and plants, and that is

501
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.000
good for your mood. It's stimulating, it's stimulating. It's all sun and

502
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.920
games till you run out of light, and which reminds me Stacy. Soon

503
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:34.119
we'll be talking about our favorite subject, no daylight saving time all right,

504
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:38.440
the National Weather Service said this past
week it wasn't a large swarm of grasshoppers.

505
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:45.239
It's radar imaging caught moving into northwest
Utah after all. A week after

506
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:51.960
announcing the alarming discovery, the Weather
Service reported that further analysis showed that the

507
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:57.559
unusual blip on the radar was most
likely caused by material released from a US

508
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:05.039
Air Force base in Vada. Now
that's interesting. The chaff or yeah,

509
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.280
chaff, they call it chaff a
radar, a substance called chaff, a

510
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:16.599
reflective substance deployed by the military to
confuse radars or guided missiles. So it

511
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:23.639
wasn't grasshoppers after all, It was
this chaff. Interesting, but peanut people

512
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:30.039
just panic for a little while,
thinking there was this huge mass of grasshoppers

513
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:36.880
on radar moving into the area.
Well, that's scary. Thought. Gives

514
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:43.400
me the weekly opportunity to share with
you a dad joke a grasshopper. Grasshopper

515
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.840
walks into a bar and the bartender
says, hey, do you know we

516
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:51.199
have a drink named after you?
And the grasshopper says, you have a

517
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:59.880
drink named Fred Johnson. Okay.
Drought stricken Arizona is baking in the sear

518
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:04.280
heat. We've all heard the news
of the heat in Arizona. The Scottsdale

519
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:09.679
City Council unanimously agreed this past week
to ban natural grass in front of future

520
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:19.559
single family homes in an effort to
conserve water. So they're they're banning lawns

521
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:23.920
there in Scottsdale. You know,
that's um, that's a a heavy step,

522
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:29.079
but especially in I mean, lawns
are very water intensive here in Michigan,

523
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.239
even in the summer, even in
a normal summer when we don't have

524
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.840
you knows as little rain as we've
had this year. So in a climate

525
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.840
like Arizona, which is a natural
desert, that's going to be even more

526
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:43.000
water where water is scarce. So, um, you know, I think

527
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:46.039
it's really just a matter of just
getting people's eyes used to seeing something else

528
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.639
and then it will sort of become
a lot less weird to people who are

529
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.079
just accustomed to lawns as being the
default choice. Yeah. I think so

530
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:59.000
too, and Stacy. According to
this this news story, this is the

531
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:04.239
part that I found interesting. According
to Scottsdale City Council, feedback gathered from

532
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:12.519
Scottsdale water customers in June found eighty
six percent of those who responded supported the

533
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.199
ordinance. Oh wow, that's good. Glad to hear that. So I

534
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.559
guess not a lot of crankiness going
on it, and no longer cranky people

535
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.480
saying get off my lawn. Right, Well, people aren't going to go

536
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:29.239
on their lawn because instead of grass
is the people lancing tactus. Very good

537
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.960
deterrent. And some people aren't necessarily
into lawn. I mean, some people

538
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.920
very much into their lawns, but
some people just just not into their lawns

539
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:43.719
and the maintenance. I remember once
I had an old more I put out

540
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:47.880
by the road and put a sign
next to it that said free. Someone

541
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:53.039
came by and took the sign left
them ower. True true story. So

542
00:39:53.519 --> 00:40:00.280
anyhow, all right, I probably
should have been more specific with that to

543
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.519
sign. A woman in Massachusetts decided
to buy herself something she's always wanted for

544
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:10.760
her ninety seventh birthday, a top
of the line John Dear tractor. Ah,

545
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.519
now that's interesting. What's she gonna
do with it? She just likes

546
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:22.440
to take her tractor out for a
ride for fun. She says, whether

547
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.840
the grass needs cutting or not,
I go around, I check and drive

548
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.159
around. Her home sits on a
beautiful two point five acres of land.

549
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:36.559
She says, it keeps me busy. And she said, even before her

550
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.519
husband passed away, the four foot
eight inch firecracker, that's what they're calling

551
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:45.320
her, always had a love of
landscaping. She had a pushmower when she

552
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:50.039
was a younger girl. But she
said, now forget it, I can't

553
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:54.519
push the lawnmowers. So she got
herself a John Dear tractor. Wow.

554
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.960
Well, you know, two point
two acres is a lot for a pushmower.

555
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.400
So, like, I think she
should have treated herself a little earlier.

556
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.519
Frankly, I think so too.
I think so too. She's now

557
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:12.119
a media sensation. They tracked her
down. Recently published research. It indicates

558
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:16.920
that monarch butterflies live year round in
South Carolina. What did you catch that?

559
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:20.880
That's wild? No, I didn't. We're gonna put the story the

560
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:25.880
length there at Gardening Simplified OnAir dot
Com. Please visit our website Gardening Simplified

561
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.800
OnAir dot Com. Of course,
you can send us questions also and take

562
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:32.639
a look at the show notes and
we'll put it there. Yes, recently

563
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:38.039
published research indicates that monarch butterflies live
year round in South Carolina, relying on

564
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:43.920
swamps in spring, summer and fall, and sea islands in the winter.

565
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:50.840
While these monarchs rely heavily on aquatic
milkweed as a host plant for their eggs

566
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:55.400
and caterpillars, they were also found
to use swallow wart, a viny relative

567
00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:01.719
of milkweed that grows near salt marshes
and was previously recognized as an important host

568
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:09.320
plant for monarch. So this is
pretty interesting. Their establishing monarchs are overwintering

569
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:15.960
in South Carolina rather than migrating to
the well known sites in Mexico. That's

570
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.679
fascinating. I had no idea.
Yeah, so very interesting. Now,

571
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:23.360
of course, the monarchs in this
study were more concentrated in maritime habitats,

572
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:30.119
so barrier islands that are directly on
the ocean in winter, but pretty wide

573
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:36.119
widely disperse, So there you go. Finally, in branching news, this

574
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:42.039
was interesting. A fallen tree blocking
a nearby road trapped more than one hundred

575
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.800
people this past week at the home
of Agatha Christie, the late crime writer

576
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:51.880
regarded as the best selling novelist of
all time. One visitor to Christie's Greenway

577
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.719
House in England said she arrived at
eleven thirty in the morning and was stuck

578
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:59.880
there for hours because there's only one
road in and out of the air.

579
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:06.360
It sounds like a mystery in the
making. Exactly, exactly, so fantastic

580
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.480
story. Yes, it's gonna require
some detective work to figure out why and

581
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:16.039
how this happened. But at the
home of Agatha Christie, a fallen tree

582
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:21.840
and your I guess there's worse places
to be stuck. Sure, yeah,

583
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.719
I mean she probably she was a
very avid gardener in fact, so I'm

584
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:30.639
sure her home there in England has
pretty fabulous gardens. And you know,

585
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:32.039
if there's a place that you're going
to be stuck, a garden is a

586
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:37.199
pretty good place for it. Thank
you so much for watching us on YouTube

587
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:42.880
of course, looking for the podcast, share it with friends and neighbors listening

588
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.519
to us on the radio and Stacy, thank you very mulch Thank you,

589
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.320
Rick, and thank you Adrianna,
you bet you, and thank you to

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00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.599
our listeners. Oh yes, exactly
big, thank you, very mulchos all

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around. Thanks Adrianna, have yourself
a great week.

