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Are you or are you or hello? What' s up? What a

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welcome pleasure I am Luis Miguel Alegado. For me it is a pleasure,

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privilege that accompanies me in one more
chapter of what good question. Thank you

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for joining us good morning, good
afternoon, good night wherever you are.

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And today I am accompanied by a
lawyer and the truth is that I am

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very happy because he is not only
a lawyer, he is a great friend,

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he is a great lawyer and here
in Queretaro he is marking, because

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really a story worth telling and for
me it is a pleasure. We will

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talk about many things in the legal
sphere, but I am very happy to

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be able to introduce my dear lawyer
Renato García, how you are, friend,

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welcome. Thank you very much.
We said friend you say, thank

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you for being here, for really
accepting that it' s a pleasure and

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privilege. We' ll talk about
things that you handle very well and that

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people need to know and know more
about all this digital stuff. And let

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me introduce you to my guest,
as he deserves, is the graduate Remato

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Garcia. He' s born in
Mexico City. He holds a degree in

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law from the Universidad Tecnológica de México. Lawyer, applicant and teacher, Diploma

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in Amparo Law. He holds a
diploma in federal fiscal defense, a diploma

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in civil and commercial procedural law,
a legal adviser, a junior lawyer and

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a deputy director of area in RLG. Lawyers. He has been an attorney

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in charge of the Workers' Union
of the Chamber of Deputies of the Congress

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of the Union. Partner. Founder
of Gatri and associates sc is a full

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professor at the University of Tominaga Nakamoto
since the two thousand and twelve. He

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is the head of the Chamber of
Deputies of the two thousand and twelve to

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date Associate Professor of the Salle.
Speaker in the Chamber of Deputies on matters

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of control, constitutionality and convention.
He is a rapporteur at the Criminal Investigation

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Agency on amparo, in the new
accusatory criminal system. Speaker at the University

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of Anahua de Querétaro for the topic
of companies and entrepreneurs and is a speaker

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in the Municipality of Huizquilucan on human
rights issues, health rights. Founder of

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Tribe Business Network and Bueno Believe me
it would take me more than half an

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hour to introduce my guest that the
truth is a pleasure and a privilege and

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I am honored my dear lawyer to
have you and to all of you thank

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you stay shared, because this chapter
will be very interesting and more if you

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handle brand issues, if you run
your business, your organization. Let'

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s talk about networking, but we' ll also talk about the risks you

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can have on the digital issue if
you don' t advise well with a

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lawyer like my guest. Thank you
all. If that' s all right

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with you, let' s get
started. No kidding, counselor. Really.

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Eh I will take more than half
now in just introducing you welcome,

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but to see beyond all your medals, your successes, your achievements, your

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recognitions. This is the first question
I ask all my guests. Who'

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s there? Who is behind all
these recognitions, who is Renato, Garcia,

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Welcome Hello, how are you,
well, yes, look, the

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truth is that I am a friend. I consider myself a friend to everyone.

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I look to everyone as much as
I can, we support him and

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he also supports me, I say
we are all of us. I'

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m actually a friend. It'
s the truth of things. My dear

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friend. Thank you very much,
thank you, Renato, and good for

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the legal issue. Your family has
lawyers. Why does this desire arise to

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study law and then go to the
bottom with everything you did. Yeah,

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look, the truth is, in
my family, a hundred lawyers. I

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have a very close relationship with my
cousins, who are Carlos and Francisco,

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the twins of the firm of RLG
jos Holland Garcia drowned and with that,

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that is a little stronger. Dude. Please, you can talk to me

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a little louder. Yeah, sure
I do, man, I' m

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telling you, I got some cousins. It' s just that I think

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they' re setting me up to
follow their path, because they' re

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really excellent drowned, but above all, excellent people. What this is.

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Carlos Rosés Lande and Francisco Rosarlanda are
my cousins and very good friends too,

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as we are a great greeting to
your cousins. Listen to the legal issue.

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They tell the truth there are many
clichés around you. You know that

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well, it' s not something
I' m getting out, but they

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say finding a good lawyer is hard
and finding one who' s honest uff

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worse than that. Why they carry
such a bad reputation. You lawyers notice

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that yes, uh, I mean, we have a reputation that precedes us

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and that it' s fatal and
terrible. Really. I tell you one,

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as a lawyer fights with everything,
does not fight against the judge,

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against the stitch and is already against
his own client, because always the client

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thinks that, because of that reputation
of lawyers he says no. This guy

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' s even got a joke they
don' t say Listen, you come

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in with a lawyer and you come
in with a cat. No, why

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with a cat. Ah, well, if you put it on the table

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and the cat runs, then that
lawyer is a dog, no, but

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if the cat gets hit, then
I have a tie, because it'

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s a rat, not then.
But no, yes, of course,

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there are so many things that are
said about lawyers and yes. The truth

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is, there are all kinds of
lawyers. One tries to score pauto,

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but, like everyone else, I
don' t consider myself the best lawyer

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for much or anything. No.
The truth is that I have too and

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I have had many mistakes and I
still have it and I will keep having

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it as hard as you try.
I mean, I think it' s

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part of human nature, but,
yeah, lawyers have a very bad reputation,

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look, that' s a very
curious thing, because up to here,

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how do you get two when you
have to delegate your house? Something

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that' s good. Mexicans,
at least Mexicans are not other countries,

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but Mexicans are specialists in everything they
play, the national team. We'

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re the best technicians, technical directors. There are elections in this country as

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there will be in. I don' t know how many weeks we'

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re the excellent digital marketing political scientists
who pollute experts. Not good, they

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even have digital sherpa names and evangelists
and they have super weird names like that.

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But when you talk about law,
that' s where everyone does talk

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to a lawyer, because that'
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practically anything. There is also the
understanding in the air that you, as

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right- wingers, do not obviously
have to be very well prepared. Yes,

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it is true that to be a
lawyer you have to study a lot,

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prepare a lot, as in any
career, or you particularly have to

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be always very well informed, because
you know what happens I tell you here

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so many issues come and are so
diverse in this career you make the habit

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of reading aha because necessarily, all
the demands are written, all the answers

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are written. Jurisprudence of the Court
is written and laws are written and everything

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is written. Then you really get
into the habit since you' re in

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the first semesters of the race,
when you' re in the middle of

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the race reading, reading, reading, and that sets the tone for you,

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because you' re already so used
to it that suddenly you already win

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this book. You already want this. You already have a lot of things.

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And that' s why the lawyer, because he usually knows about them

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obviously, you' re never going
to know about all the issues, not

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even in law or is a lawyer
specializing in tax matters, it' s

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hardly going to take business or civil
matters and asa or channels. Each range

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has its own degree of specialization.
Yeah, right, now we' re

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talking about what and they' re
saying. Now you' re saying from

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your own mouth. I mean,
you' re supposed to be the ones

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who read the most. Why do
I say this, because in Mexico it

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' s a good thing. I
saw a statistic the other day. I

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don' t think I know how
they got it. It' s about

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one eight books a year that a
Mexican reads go if suddenly on Facebook he

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doesn' t say he sells red
shirt, medium size. There' s

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no shortage of people asking me a
lot as a digital strategist and what color

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it is and that' s how
it says no and it doesn' t

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have a girl' s cental,
it doesn' t say medium. Not

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then go to the Mexican. It' s hard for him to read when

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you' re talking that you have
the habit of reading, because obviously,

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everything is the judicial system in Mexico
is written down, except I understand criminal

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law. It is the only branch
that has already entered into force of the

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new accusatory system, where there is
already this confrontation and this question, which

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is clearly verbal, looks at this
not yes one of the premises or the

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parteaguas the criminal matter. Yeah,
there we are back. We just have

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a little problem with the microphone,
probably because he wanted to enter a call

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or a message or something. We
didn' t listen to your graduate.

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I' m talking not about what
he arranges. The subject of audio.

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We can' t hear you.
I' m talking to Renato Garcia.

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He is a lawyer with many graduates
in Amparo, in tax matters, in

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civil, commercial matters, has his
own law firm and has also participated well

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as a law professor in many subjects
for a long time and is now founder

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of the tribe business network that we
will talk to him in a few more

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minutes on how to have and grow
on this business network issue and I think

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it is something very important what was
talking to us right now the lawyer that

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in matters of instruction, reading,
training, preparation. Well, then,

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this topic is very important in terms
of being able to be well prepared,

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read, study, prepare, devote
themselves to the subject. And I think

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there' s a big difference there
that' s very marked as far as

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people who do have a great experience
and who don' t have a great

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experience? Why? Because preparation is
a lot. We' re on our

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way back. He' s already
with us here again, Counselor. There

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you hear us, yes, sorry, go, go, go, there

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we hear you clear and strong.
Te. I remember you have to talk

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to us a little louder about charlen
Jundia, as they say in my village,

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so that it can be heard better. We were then discussing this new

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system of criminal accusatory, which is
already oral. No, but I was

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asking you that all the proceedings are
usually in writing. No. Not good.

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The tendency is that everything that trials
are going to be oral. I

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mean, right now. We have
orality in commercial matters, orality in civil

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matters, orality in labour matters,
which has always had a certain level.

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Orality in general matters. Yes,
all subjects. It is the tendency to

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get to the subject of orality.
However, there is still a written part

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in Part One that is the written
claim for the whole issue of complaint,

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i e criminal proceedings. Well,
it' s written. Right, the

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complaint is handled by the prosecution.
So, the specialized prosecutor' s office

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has to write, it has a
loose police report, it has to fill

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in a lot of things, and
all that you have to see is that

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complaint that you obviously want her as
in civil or mercatile matters. Well,

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it' s lawsuits, et cetera. But there is a part written in

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all subjects and you will continue to
see for a while. Listen to what

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I want to ask you. Then, apart from reading a lawyer, he

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must be well prepared, he must
have a skill also to speak, a

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skill of critical thinking not to speak
for speaking. We have sadly seen in

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Mexico a very deplorable political polarization that
today there are people who defend a party.

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I don' t want to talk
about either, I don' t

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want to talk about any character,
but who defends a game. And why.

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Well, because I want to,
why, because, yeah, no

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foundation, no reason. Today I
believe that you, the lawyers, must

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be very well prepared, have a
very agile thought and a sagacity to handle

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the law. What if you wanted
to give me a recommendation and all the

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people who wanted to study law in
due course, what would be the three

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basic recommendations, what would you give
us to tell us to see, to

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be a lawyer, I recommend three
things. You must have and you must

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do. First, talk to us
about what I should have and then what

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I should do. Please, lawyer
ok first the ones I should have.

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I have to have a taste for
reading. That, as we said,

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a taste for reading. If you
don' t like reading, if the

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truth has started reading, then I
recommend you look for something else. OK

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two you also have to have a
developed lens of objectivity, not of objective

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themes, but of objective, because
that matters in law. The goal doesn

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' t interest you like that.
Hey it' s bad, because I

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don' t miss eating your kids
at this hour or I didn' t

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prepare your useful ban i e,
objective subjects that can be credited with documents

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and everything. So you have to
have an objective mind and number three you

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also have to prepare a lot good, you have to have a lot of

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deal with people aha because in law, one of the situations is that all

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customers are different in the subjects and
you have to learn to understand each of

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the assumptions that that client handles ok. That' s about having no clan

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and what I should do. Ah
well, and what you must do is

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precisely prepare yourself number one, prepare
yourself constantly. You have to prepare to

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train yourself because on issues of legal
argumentation, of syllogisms, of many things

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that you have that right I tell
you is very extensive, very broad and

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always you. You have to be
preparing number two of a new account,

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you have to learn to interpret,
to read one thing, to read to

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have the habit of reading and another
is the subject of the interpretation of the

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norm from a presentation, either constitutional, conventional, on some subject, of

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some code and so on. There
may be several interpretations of the same article.

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Then you have to know how to
interpret the law or the spirit of

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the legislator and compare with different legal
systems and so on. Not that'

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s the other one, and the
three of you have to learn to talk,

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because if you can' t talk, then have some great ideas.

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You may have a very solid argument
in your mind, but at the moment

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of expressing, I can' t
write. It' s not what you

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mean. That happens a lot in
the first demands that you make, in

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the first answers you say, I
stayed wow and suddenly the lez or someone

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else' s. I said something
I didn' t want to say.

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What did you mean by that?
You agree to talk to us, a

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little bit of your first, the
first trial you won and the first trial

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you lost. Tell us, Don' t tell us, customer details or

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anything, just tell us, from
your perspective, how you lived it,

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how you suffered it, what you
did afterwards. When you won, you

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went to party or when you lost, you went to cure your defeat with

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alcohol, not or nothing of that, like you did. You know,

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yeah, well, I' ll
tell you about defeat first. Yeah,

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me, the first defeat I ever
had. The truth is that I felt

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very bad, extremely bad, very
sad, disappointed. I said this is

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not my thing that I' m
doing a lot of things that happen to

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your mind. No yes, it' s very sad and you' re

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disappointed in yourself that part has to
be worked out a lot on the lawyer

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' s surcharge. It precisely comes
in the cases you must know that in

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this race you win and the judgment
the idea is to try you and with

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your expert give you the best of
the senses. Yes, it' s

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very sad. The truth is that
it is already right now with the experience

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I had, because you realize what
the faults were and, evidently, they

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were less failures. So clear or, on the other hand, victory,

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that victory in all spheres. If
you fuck up a very, very pleasant

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feeling and the truth is that you
say everything is worth it, not some

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of the areas, as you say
it I love the shelter. In fact,

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I' m going to do some
scarring of some person who told me

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that the shelter was so beautiful that
it has the name of a woman and

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that, like every woman, put
an idea of understanding it, but in

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both cases it' s worth the
care. OK. Yeah, yeah.

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Amparo is a beautiful thing, because
it is the protection of fundamental rights,

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constitutional guarantees and human rights. That' s the protection. So not many

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people have access to it. And
I think that one of the reforms that

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we think should be done is that
the amparo is for everyone, that is

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to say, a shelter for your
putting of thirty- five thousand pesos and

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others that I think is not saying
in a general way, no, but

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you should be more accessible to everyone. Hey, you' re being turned

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into your guarantees by some authority,
your human rights, your fundamental rights,

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because we' re going to find
a way to get it totally free or

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it' s very important. Fundamental
rights are the greatest. Imagine, I

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think life itself costs a lot to
live, that is, it costs a

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lot to live, it costs a
lot to breathe. We saw it with

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the pandemic, which suddenly a tank
of oxygen, which really cost very little,

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a mouth cover, which cost pennies, which cost a weight. Suddenly,

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with the issue of the pandemic,
we are not seeing in Mexico today

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that they want to reform the topic
of amparo And there has been much talk

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about this reform, which, obviously, to manipulate it and to profit more,

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you told us that you like the
protection very much. And with these

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experiences you' ve had, I
think a main feature first is to tell

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you that you, as lawyers.
If anyone should know how to handle frustration

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tolerance very well, it' s
you. I don' t mean,

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sometimes you win see and sometimes you
lose them. There are times when you

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win a trial, but you lose
it later with a revocation, with a

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sentence of amparo. Then, suddenly, there are no victories forever and no

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defeats forever. At the end of
the road everything happens and it can suddenly

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change one sentence for another. No
yes, you can verify to the judge

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that evidently, he made a mistake
and there are always remedies until you get

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to the amparo and the amparo already
there, and what is determined with a

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judge. That' s where he
stays. How do you handle licensed frustration,

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how do you deal with this issue
of frustration? What you talk to

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customers, because one thing is that
your frustration as a jurist, but another

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is the frustration of the client.
If you hear, how we lost,

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no, if I already paid you
so much and apparently, you think that

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when one pays the lawyer, then
it' s for him to win,

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not how you handle this thing.
Yeah, look right now. First,

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first of all, there' s
nothing at a very clear point. We,

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as lawyers, must be very precise
at the time of telling the client

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that trials are won and lost,
even when you have the ninety- nine

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percent certainty that that judgment will be
won you don' t have to manifest

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it and so it has to be
established in the service provision contract. It

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is not assured or a result,
because you are always above precisely this,

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to the this decision of a third
that in this case can be a judge,

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a collegial court through ministers or magistrates
in the colleges ministers to the Court.

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I say all that, because it' s going to impact the outcome

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of the trial. Uh- huh. Now, if I say to you

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that in the same ones, notice
what I say to you among the same

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ministers of the Court, there is
a contradiction of criteria, that is,

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imagine yourself being a mere mortal.
Yeah, yeah, that' s how

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we' re not gonna disagree on
a lot of things. No. At

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last and working are the judgments and
handling of frustration. Well, yes,

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you have to talk to your client
and tell them the possibilities and they really

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know that a trial, because it
takes many stages and all stages have to

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be watered down. It' s
a matter of you having to do well

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as a lawyer, but not guarantee
a result. Evidently, you also face

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not only a situation I imagine that
you have already passed with all the trials

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you have in your firm, because
obviously you lead the efforts both in the

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commercial area and in the family area
as well as in the fiscal area.

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Then you as the head of your
buffet, you are aware and you must

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have this part of knowledge. But
there are times when you say hijole I

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am facing such a lawyer that she
is a beast who is not only prepared,

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but is also very skilled, but
also has a very good relationship with

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the judge. And then you know
that you' re facing not suddenly one

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that you say child this one I
probably don' t have that easy.

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How do you pass it on to
the client, how do you tell the

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client? Listen to this first thing, you broadcast it or you don'

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t broadcast it. You keep it
to yourself, or if you suddenly say

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" son," I see it, that is, if we have reason

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to fight, but it' s
better to come to an agreement. They

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also use that term they say.
A good deal is better out there than

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a bad lawsuit. Yeah, it' s a bad arrangement that a good

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lawsuit at maximum will read it full. Yeah, yeah, yeah, people

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that, that' s very this. The truth of things is that you

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are in a proper judgment. There
are procedures. You know more or less

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what elements you can get. The
idea that what elements can harm you.

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You can preview what the outcome of
that trial is going to be. It

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' s clear without being 100 percent. But yes, yes, yes,

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you can see it not through the
tests that came out of the confunctional test

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was well the testimonial test. All
the evidence makes an important number to know

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where the trial is going. And
yes and always important number one. Don

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' t fight the lawyer Look.
I' ve had opposing players I fight

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with, so he' s made
me. I remember the license a lot.

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Well, I' m not gonna
say his name, but he told

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me in an audience that I was
a right- winger. No, I

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mean, she was a very explosive
woman. The truth is that, finishing

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this one from the audience, we
greeted each other and everything, but in

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the audience we were thrown very hard
and good friend, I tell you,

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but find out well, we didn' t forgive each other anything. And

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in that sense, I think it' s the father in fact, but

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you do have to tell the next
one. Hey, you know what a

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time to negotiate is. Forget about
the rest, let' s negotiate.

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You can rescue this and this because
they' re going to give us.

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Yeah, it' s important to
say. See how right now, I

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think about it. I think I' d be a good lawyer because I

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love this one of fundamental and of
and looking for reason and finding those nooks

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and also being there in oral trials. I' d be fixed as wonderful.

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I need to study law, but
out there until I see no more.

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I' m starting to make a
suit that' s not as expensive

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as yours, but I think I' d pretty much give the cat.

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Hey, I' m gonna invite
you to have it personal, to a

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hearing. I' m saying whether
it' s like an audience or a

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client, and if you allow it
to see the audience develop so you can

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see a bigger picture, it'
s going to be pretty lame, and

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one of those is going to get
me into law school. Hey, let

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me also ask you something that is
important and interesting to me when you have

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the chance to talk to the client
and to tell him, because we'

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re not just going to win the
trial. There are times when customers feel

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so offended, we take it so
to heart. Obviously, it is not

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the same a commercial trial as a
family trial, as a trial of character

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with a tax- type sat in
family members. I think I do,

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and here' s the question I
want to ask you. Where do you

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see more drama? Where else do
you see so you say hijole. This

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looks like a TV show. In
the family, in the commercial, in

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the fiscal, in the three,
in none or in all. No yes,

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definitely in the family, that is, in matter or in matter of

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feeling, you have a contract.
Ah well, we leave it to ourselves.

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It' s a document. I
don' t even have to submit

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any more evidence. With that documentary
we leave you recognize your signature. Yeah,

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yeah, with my signature. If
you owe him or the trial'

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s over. There is no more
paying ordinary interest in his oratory case of

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percusus. But in family matters.
In family matters, it is the duty

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of judges not only to look at
objective questions, but also at a certain

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subjectivity. What does the wife say? What does the husband say? Until

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that time or ex- husbands and
have already divorced. And it is the

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integrity of minors that is most valued
in family matters. The integrity of minors

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is called the best interests of the
minor ok ok. Then in the attention

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the guard and guard, and this
is quite clear that the parents should be

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taken away that the guard keeps it
I win and not her. No.

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No. The fourth custody is a
right of minors, and in view of

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this right, it will be determined
who the idone father is to care for

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minors. There is no more,
and then there is police evidence, in

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psychology, well, in primordial evidence, at work, that is, different

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conversations with minors and they are already
ar, etcetera. But in family matters

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where these types of situations are most
visible, because many feelings are involved.

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No, he' s pale.
It' s valid, they' re

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not chis. The determinations have to
be objective, but the parts are also

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heard. I' m going to
notice in this comment that I' m

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going to make to you because they
say that to a priest, a lawyer

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and now a logo market, you
have to always tell them the truth.

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Not to see where you stand and
where to leave. It' s happened

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to you that at some trial,
all of a sudden the counterpart pulls out

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something else and you see your client
telling me to see. You didn'

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t tell me this. And if
so, and that the client turns to

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see with just ay I forgot.
You know if it' s happened to

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you about being totally clear sometimes horrible. That' s fine, Father You

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say so, and we wish clients
out of my soul with the truth,

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because when the truth I can defend
you. If you don' t talk

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about it with the truth at some
point, they get a document out,

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they pull some stuff out of a
supervenient test where if you had knowledge of

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certain foods and you didn' t
tell me or you hid it from me,

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then there we' re going to
have problems. No yes, he

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always talks about the truth for what
has happened to us, if it has

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happened to us many times and you
fight with the client you scold him,

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they jane his ears or you tell
him, for the truth is that I

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say, because nothing else you have
done to yourself as I told you in

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the beginning. No. No,
it doesn' t make sense either when

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you' re gonna tell us things. Yeah, I know fools who do.

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We' re not in that style. Yeah, yeah, it'

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s not to be heard. How
you separate yourself from the client, because

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I imagine he' ll suddenly come. It' s not the same thing

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to defend a person your life has
seen more than that day, who knocked

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on the door of your office,
to defend a friend, to defend a

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great friend. How you stop after
the trial or after a hearing. How

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you mark a good one. This
brawl isn' t mine, this broque

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is already the question is focused on
how you get home, put your wife

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with your daughter, how you get
there after you bring a trial here,

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how I solve it, how I
get it out and chin this is my

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brother brother brother, and he'
s in a bronchotota. How you do

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him to divide. Yeah, no. The truth is that I tell you

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in the decalogue of the lawyer they
mark you and that for all the lawyers

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who start, so check it out. The truth is, you have to

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divide the matter of matters into your
personal life. If you didn' t

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do it like that, your life
would be sustainable. Okay. I really

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have to do all I have to
do here at my job, in the

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office, is do the right thing
about the processes we' re going through.

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Uh- huh And that' s
where all the stuff stays here.

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Even if I take you to business
because my friends who did take you to

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several I get you all believe me
here are your business. I threw it

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out, I see it. He
took the letter. We don' t

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touch issues. We' re not
going to talk about issues. You want

415
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:13.920
to talk about something. We'
ll see you here in the office.

416
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.880
We split that part a lot and
that' s better, better for everyone.

417
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:25.119
Hey, teach. It' s
exciting to teach. It motivates you

418
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:30.920
to learn more it compels you and
I shore you? Learning more not only

419
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:34.920
motivates you, but it also forces
you, because everything is changing. I

420
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.599
don' t want to talk to
you about the students. All of a

421
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.759
sudden you see certain students you say
blessed be the lord if you are going

422
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:46.200
to be a lawyer, German son, better be a fireman not, or,

423
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:52.440
on the other hand, you say
no manches this does have this one,

424
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.279
yes it has this not wood and
this one is going to become a

425
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:04.160
very good judge, to be a
very good one if that happens to you

426
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:08.440
with the students or do not notice
that it does happen or it is you

427
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:15.680
know who has a lot of wood
as it is said, but the truth

428
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.200
is that to me, in practice
it has happened that students that I said

429
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.480
it is no longer the Walloon or
it is right now, the two positions

430
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:28.240
are high no, but the truth
of the things that those who have wood

431
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:30.440
will always have it then nothing else
give it there in certain types to all,

432
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:31.400
there is not that I try not
to discriminate to anyone. I talk

433
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.480
to everyone the same, though I
don' t know that I had a

434
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.279
lot of bad news and so on. Well, try to do this and

435
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.079
I give you whatever advice you can
and also from many students you learn.

436
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.839
I have been touched by BOFO students, three students who have taught me many

437
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.480
things and not a teacher. I
don' t think so. I think

438
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.000
it could be on this side.
Hey, you, you can show up

439
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.960
and say. Hey, you'
re right. No surprise, surprise,

440
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.920
it gives you life. Hey,
tell us. Now on the subject of

441
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.160
digital. Let' s talk about
the digital issue. I want to remind

442
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:08.679
all the people I' m talking
to lawyer Renato Garcia is appearing on screen

443
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:15.119
his Whatsapp so that you can get
closer if you have any family, business,

444
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:22.519
tax issues, which other branch of
rights in which the perpentil is litigating.

445
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.679
We' re taking a lot of
the merchandising issue. That' s

446
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.960
where he' s showing up.
It' s the four, four,

447
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:34.039
two seven, seventy- six,
thirteen zero, zero, four four,

448
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.760
two, seven, six, three, zero, yeah. We' re

449
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.719
fine with whatsapp, yeah, exac
all four, four, two seven,

450
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.519
six, one thousand three years.
It' s really good there. So

451
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:46.519
for you, then, to move
in contact with the lawyer and believe me

452
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:52.960
that always having a lawyer is a
guarantee that, at least we will have

453
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:57.199
someone who can reach out to us
when we need to talk about the digital

454
00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:58.960
issue. There' s a lot
to talk about on the digital issue.

455
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:06.559
What Happens When I grab a Coca
Quela logo and it makes it easy for

456
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:12.880
me to make a meme or upload
it and use it on my social networks,

457
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.519
they can sue me, they can' t sue me what happens.

458
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.079
I' m going to ask you
a lot of questions in this regard.

459
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:22.000
If I take the picture of someone
on the street and upload it to my

460
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:28.840
social networks, not or if I
record a video in a restaurant and a

461
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.079
person comes out, they can sue
me, no, they can sue me

462
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:36.159
what happens With that gobado, yes, of course, but first of all

463
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:37.559
there is nothing to see the issue
of brands. No, I mean,

464
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:43.639
everyone registers their mark, because they
have to do so so so that they

465
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.440
have rights obligations derived from that kill. That' s not why it'

466
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:52.280
s coca cola and I think each
of us also has a street that personal

467
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.920
brand, as a natural person or
brand through a moral person. I don

468
00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:00.079
' t think there' s the
size of the exterior tions. See and

469
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:05.079
do a search to see if they
have that free mark, that common name,

470
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.599
that you do, too, that' s your office, it'

471
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.800
s also clear. Of course,
we support each other in that sense and

472
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:14.239
then we register you as ok,
you already have your mark. Now you

473
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.280
do, already, you own everything
you do inside that brand, because if

474
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:22.280
anyone wants to take advantage of those
situations of your brand like right now,

475
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.880
you' re giving the case of
coca cola. Or the truth is that

476
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:29.400
coca cola, because it will not
send you unless you have impacted on that,

477
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.480
not that you would have to make
a mosaic to impact on coca cola.

478
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.239
If you are a person of commercial
creation and you are not harming it,

479
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.719
I say to the contrary it goes
to that nothingness or But in that

480
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.280
sense, what there is much to
see in these issues, especially in civil

481
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:52.159
matters, the mercantile is the issue
of whether you cause harm or harm without

482
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.639
any violent of the objective rights of
others. If you don' t do

483
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:59.760
it in the spirit of violence,
it' s hardly going to have a

484
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.239
place in a lawsuit. If you
do it with the subject so it can

485
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:07.599
reprecision a difficult question and I'
m going to ask you to talk to

486
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:17.199
us a little louder, because the
audio is coming down like a question that

487
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:22.079
many people say yes, others say
no. How is the question going to

488
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:30.679
record a person with my cell phone? Is it permitted by law or not?

489
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.559
It' s allowed by law to
a person I mean that you and

490
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.679
I are in the parking lot.
You start me, you don' t

491
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:39.920
let me in, I pull out
my cell phone and I start recording you.

492
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:45.280
I can do that among private people, but beyond that, what about

493
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:52.159
the cops? I stop a cop, whether he' s in transit or

494
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.400
not, being in transit, what
happens to an authority. I' m

495
00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.119
talking about the cop figure, but
I' m talking about an authority figure

496
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.760
now as well. I' m
going to do a procedure and Miss Grosera

497
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.199
won' t answer me and I' m taking out my phone and I

498
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:09.440
' m starting to record if it
can be done, it can' t

499
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.119
be done. It' s against
the law. What can happen to me

500
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:21.079
or what happens in those cases.
OK, good first hand. That'

501
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.280
s why I mentioned it in this
sense. All that is not expressly prohibited

502
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:30.239
by law. It is expressly allowed
to OK. Now it' s important

503
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:36.320
that I tell you if we all
have rights, there are certain types of

504
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.000
rights, fundamental rights, and let' s say secondary rights. Aha yes,

505
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:47.639
fundamental rights are above secondary rights ok
which I' m talking about,

506
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.360
I say it' s a little
technical. We have the guarantee of freedom,

507
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:58.559
equality and legal certainty. That'
s the big rights. Yeah,

508
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.199
well, we have other secondary rights
that are huge and you can' t

509
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:09.320
announce it. Right now. Even
there are laws in different states that these

510
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:17.760
laws go against these big rights and
then that same legislation is unconstitutional, because

511
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.599
it is against these rights, so
there are many laws. If I open

512
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.679
one of my codes or one of
them right now, I can discover at

513
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:32.920
least five ten laws that are unconstitutional
in each of the OK codes. Then

514
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:40.360
the guarantee of freedom to film is
allowed. What is not allowed is,

515
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:49.639
as I said, causing harm to
a third party. With that statement,

516
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.840
okay. Then you have to be
very precise about this, because it is

517
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:59.639
not forbidden to record. But it
is forbidden or if light has repercussions,

518
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.639
and it is the use of that
if you misuse me, there it can

519
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:08.000
generate. Now let' s talk
a little bit about whatsapp' s conversations

520
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:14.920
or record the calls you talk to
me on the phone and we' re

521
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:16.320
talking about any topic and I'
m recording you without your consent. I

522
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:22.400
can do it. Me. I' m putting myself at risk in the

523
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.920
sense that if you find out about
me, you can sue me. There

524
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:30.880
' s a risk beyond and and
to know if that conversation or those messages

525
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:37.519
from Whatsapp I can show them in
a trial as evidence that you promised me

526
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:43.239
or told me you worked to n
so, of course, yes, first

527
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:47.639
hand, notice it if I record
you, we repeat it. If I

528
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:54.639
' m not looking for harm to
that person I' m recording, that

529
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.840
' s not what' s going
to be punished here in matters, in

530
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:02.800
other matters. It' s the
theme of the Dada hears and I'

531
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.159
m using it as a means of
testing. Yeah, yeah, you can

532
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.519
use it as a mean. You
can use a test medium, but I

533
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:15.519
' m telling you it' s
not reliable evidence and a test that'

534
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:16.039
s already growing no more, but
I recorded it I don' t have

535
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:21.679
it recorded anymore. That' s
what we need to understand, and this

536
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.039
comes from the United States. It
must be understood that in the United States

537
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:28.960
it has another legislative issue, another
judicial issue, which is not the same,

538
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.000
that we are not doing the same
scheme. The US scheme is different.

539
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:37.960
And in the United States it may
be a whatsapp or a recording sufficiently

540
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:44.719
usable for a hard test. But
here in Mexico, there is another process.

541
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.760
Then it' s worth it not
to get confused. And neither is

542
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.239
it because many believe that you can. Yes, you can, I mean,

543
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:58.480
no, because everyone creates a lie, because everyone believes it and applies

544
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:04.039
it becomes true. Then you have
to be very careful. Nati' s

545
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:06.679
on me. Let' s go
there to be precise. In other words,

546
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:10.719
you can use a recording of Whatsapp
or Whatsapp screens. Yes, but

547
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:15.559
you have to articulate the test well
so bad, that is, you have

548
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:21.800
to call an expert test to determine
if that recording or its alterations and so

549
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:25.280
on. And it' s like
supporting that test administered by other means of

550
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:29.960
conviction. Aha or that, but
yes by itself. And if you don

551
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:31.079
' t know him, well,
that' s another topic. Yeah,

552
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.719
' cause besides imagine I' m
texting you, saying that' s my

553
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:37.079
handwriting, not in Whatsapp, so
what if it' s a handwriting.

554
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:42.400
This one, I love you.
I believe that there are many issues that

555
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.000
need to be addressed in legal matters. The microphones are open for a second

556
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:51.920
third fifth interview. There' s
a lot to talk about, but I

557
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.039
' d really like to know you
a little bit more remember that there are

558
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.519
no good answers or bad ones.
So let' s ask questions of all

559
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:04.039
kinds to get to know better.
It seems to you, and here it

560
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.559
is that I am already afraid to
ask lawyers not about what happens in the

561
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.800
interview, what happens after the interview. If you see that I do not

562
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.760
appear in thirty days, there you
go for me is true. That'

563
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.519
s not true. Counselor, listen
to us talk. Please tell us we

564
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.280
' re going to play a little
bit with the theme of imagination. It

565
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:30.880
seems to you and it turns out
that you won a prize notice Czech,

566
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:37.960
the prize Go a month to the
Moon on these rockets now space ex of

567
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:43.199
the new ones Eon Musk has and
you go a month to the moon,

568
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.079
but you can only take three things? You can' t take people,

569
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:51.239
you can' t take pets.
You can only take three things. That

570
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:57.360
you' re taking a trip to
the moon for a month or so,

571
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:01.840
but they' re not subsistence what
you want now. Yeah, you can

572
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:07.599
take water, food, or a
cell phone. I don' t know,

573
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.639
yeah, no, no, well, first- rate, yeah,

574
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.880
food water, no, ok go
food, obviously oxygen. Days two,

575
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:22.679
how to breathe aha ok interest,
because this is something to entertain. No.

576
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.719
I don' t know if I
could play this game or some ball.

577
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:30.199
I don' t know if it' s the same boat, but

578
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:31.159
maybe remember there' s not much
gravity. So the ball, like it

579
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:36.440
' s gonna be really hard,
but good. Hey, tell us about

580
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.800
it Let' s play with the
imaginary. Turns out in these elections we

581
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:45.000
' re going to go to Mexico. Turns out that Renato Garcia was elected

582
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:53.239
President of Mexico and you' re
getting your presidential band. Ok and with

583
00:44:54.519 --> 00:45:04.440
the investiture of being President of Mexico, he has the power to issue three

584
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:08.880
decrees, your first three decrees for
all Mexicans. What they would be and

585
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:16.559
why. OK first hand would not
be a matter of values, obviously to

586
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.559
instil them to minors. I think
that would be paramount, because if we

587
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:28.000
have certain values, from small to
large, we' re not going to

588
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:34.599
be like being. The next decree
would be to eradicate poverty or help as

589
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:40.639
much as possible, from poverty OK
and the third would therefore be a topic

590
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:47.519
of mutual help for each and every
one through certain workshops or alignments. OK,

591
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.920
very good, very good now,
tell us, please? What ability

592
00:45:52.199 --> 00:46:01.679
do you think everyone should have the
ability to argue, to express ourselves in

593
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:06.360
a harsh way, because I tell
you, we often try to say something

594
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:13.159
we don' t say. OK, great, tell me something you'

595
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:20.440
d rather win the lottery or live
twice as long as you have to live,

596
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.079
not live twice as long, live
twice as long as Horale. Very

597
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:28.199
nice and tell us, please.
For those people who don' t know

598
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:32.679
you and for those who know you, what is junk food or junk food

599
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.639
that you can' t avoid and
say hijole. No, for me this

600
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.760
is what I can forgive you all. But what' s that junk food

601
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.920
you can' t, you can' t say no. Son of me,

602
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:52.599
I think this is the popes I' ve always been a good role.

603
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.639
Oh, yeah, yeah, that' s you with dads, you

604
00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:00.199
' re more than done, all
the dads to watch games have to see

605
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.199
dads to watch movies, daddies or
popcorn. There' s some special dish

606
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:09.679
you' d say, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh,

607
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

608
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

609
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

610
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

611
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

612
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

613
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

614
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

615
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

616
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

617
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

618
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

619
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:09.679
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

620
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:10.119
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Not like that,

621
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:16.800
give him lucy, because he just
asked for the Renato degree, he just

622
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:21.599
asked the four cheeses for the tusili. I mean, there' s some

623
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:27.000
dish you say if you ask for
this and graduates because they' re really

624
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:28.840
hooked and we' re gonna win
the trial if there' s something like

625
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.519
that or not. Yeah, well, that' s a lot of things,

626
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:37.639
no, but I think that of
the favorite ones, it makes her

627
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:42.920
start green with nopals. That'
s what you got there. All right,

628
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.400
we' re going straight out and
make ourselves that kind of food.

629
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.719
You know, gentlemen, then this
one if you want no more concentration.

630
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:54.639
You' ve even wanted it.
You' re cheering up. You don

631
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:59.760
' t know what we' re
talking about Please tell us. What was

632
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:06.639
the last purchase you made and that
you regret this having bought it. We

633
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:08.239
all suddenly make purchases that you say" son" to him. Why did

634
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:14.119
I buy this thing didn' t
happen to you or not, yes,

635
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:19.159
yes, yes, of course.
What was the last thing I ever bought

636
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:27.280
that I regretted buying? I think
right now they were some football tacos to

637
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:32.360
a football tacos or you say my
Mercedes, because now I bring a ferrari

638
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:38.159
that' s what this lawyer hears, please tell us, in this case.

639
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:43.000
What was the last thing you looked
up on the Internet? Do you

640
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.880
remember the last thing you searched on
the Internet? What was it? Yeah,

641
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:51.360
yeah, the last thing I looked
up on the Internet was an address

642
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:55.840
ok what we' re going to
try that had very valid. You'

643
00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:06.800
ve ever had some admiration for someone. Long live cultural historical dead. What

644
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:13.159
do I know that you truly admire
not many. So much or so that

645
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:20.239
said that one of them comes up
smells atina. Ok ok ok what would

646
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:25.719
you prefer? What would you prefer? Don' t be afraid to ever

647
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.920
wait in a row, not either
from the bank, from the supermarket,

648
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.000
etcetera. Never wait in a line, in a queue or always find a

649
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:46.039
place to park myself child, I
think find instead of reasons Yes, yes,

650
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:52.800
ok Now tell me something you'
d prefer fame without money or money

651
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:59.960
without fame. I' d prefer
money without fame, money without fame?

652
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:08.639
You would prefer to stop climate change
or achieve world peace. World peace.

653
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:14.400
They say that in order to have
peace, we must prepare for war.

654
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:22.679
I don' t agree with that, but it' s also okay Ok

655
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:23.800
very good to see a question that
needs to be asked by a lawyer.

656
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.039
But he' s a lawyer what
that is. I accept without granting,

657
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:34.119
without knowing what this is like.
If so, I do not accept without

658
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:39.360
granting. Not such a thing from
these terms that you guys get out that

659
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.159
you say I mean, you did
accept, but you don' t grant?

660
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.280
I mean, I mean, he
agreed, he didn' t accept,

661
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:46.639
did he? Yeah? Of course, we suppose without granting to?

662
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:52.320
Yes, yes, yes, the
assumption of granting, i e, suppose

663
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.719
there is what is going to happen, but no, I don' t

664
00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:59.679
think it' s already happened.
I' m not confessing. Let'

665
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.880
s say one way or the other. It is in the situation, because

666
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:07.719
many times you say no, as
this situation does not and is already taken

667
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:13.960
as a confession. So that'
s why the sides assume without granting,

668
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:15.559
because we put ourselves on, but
it' s not happening. It'

669
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:21.239
s not clear. That tor you
got up today morning. You saw yourself

670
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.199
in the mirror. What' s
the story you tell yourself, what a

671
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.800
story you tell yourself. We all
tell each other a story. Some of

672
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.440
us make them like your server'
s case in front of a mirror.

673
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.400
I' m one of those who
see me in the mirror I see myself

674
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:38.719
and I say there' s this
cheeky pelon, don' t want it.

675
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.559
We have to lose weight. This
is gonna be a good day.

676
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:50.079
We' re going to put the
attitude in, no, and at the

677
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.320
end of the way, I'
m going to tell you my story,

678
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:54.800
for example, in the media,
my marketing story. It was a complex,

679
00:51:55.000 --> 00:52:00.920
difficult, long, heavy story,
but at the end of the road

680
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:05.039
it was not achieved. What'
s your case? Yeah, well,

681
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.519
it' s true that whenever you
look in the mirror, you ask a

682
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:12.800
lot of questions, not and there. But I think I always see myself

683
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:19.400
as an ordinary person and I always
want to get better. I know I

684
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:23.880
can improve a lot of things,
but I do need to, I need

685
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:30.960
to, and I know I'
m going to continue to fail a lot,

686
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:30.960
but I' m trying to look
for that really good average ok.

687
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:37.679
I want to ask you three final
questions before we get to the straight and

688
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:42.960
say goodbye to the straight end.
You can comment please, according to your

689
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:51.159
worldview, the human being came to
this planet earth to be happy. Yeah,

690
00:52:51.320 --> 00:53:00.760
right, okay, and how you
conceive this part of getting happiness.

691
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:07.320
How happiness is achieved. Counselor,
I think happiness is not expecting much from

692
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:13.840
others. Okay, and another one. One of the important parts is that

693
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:17.239
you must like it that it'
s fun for you. Happiness is not

694
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:23.280
a topic of it can be recent, but it is moments without trying to

695
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:30.800
make that moment as great as possible
as you fight and what you divide those

696
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:35.159
people who seek litigation of everything.
There are people of everything, no,

697
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.119
there are people who never fight anything, and there are people who fight for

698
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:45.599
everything and who want to sue everyone, not ah yes. It' s

699
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:54.159
me talking to a person, a
couple you see as a narcissist, a

700
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:58.199
pathological narcissist, he' s a
dangerous person. He is a dangerous person

701
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.760
in many ways and one does not
understand that he is dangerous too, as

702
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:05.000
he can commit. They are of
the persons who can commit up to a

703
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.920
crime, a serious crime. Enton
I know you have a lot of fart

704
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.800
for those kinds of people, but
I remember when this relationship ended I talked

705
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.639
to a great lawyer and said hey
we' re going to fight. But

706
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:22.880
think about this, what it'
s going to lead us to, that

707
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.119
is, win or lose in either
of the two gentlemen, what it'

708
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:30.159
s going to lead you to.
I want to ask you this is better,

709
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.079
all of a sudden, not having
to fight or what do you think

710
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.039
of those people who are suing everyone
look at you. I will say what

711
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.800
is in the experience and what we
are implementing here in the office are called

712
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:45.280
more or more alternative means of dispute
resolution. We don' t believe in

713
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:51.519
trials. I say there are issues
of trials that are inevitable and have to

714
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:53.960
be taken away, but as far
as possible, we believe in the issue

715
00:54:54.079 --> 00:55:00.639
of conciliation, of mediation. The
best solution, as you say in most

716
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:04.320
matters, in ninety percent of matters, is to talk, talk, and

717
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:09.119
that' s going to bring a
time to boil that all to you That

718
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:17.840
' s what this lawyer said to
me. If we do, we'

719
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.239
re gonna do it and we'
re gonna hit him and if he goes,

720
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.039
we' re gonna hit him.
Very hard. Don' t also

721
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:28.199
think about that that it' s
a family and that it has children and

722
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:32.280
that, that is, you'
re also transgressing to another where we'

723
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:36.880
re going to have what case it
has, that is, there' s

724
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:37.559
no one, and then this alternative
means is important. I want to first,

725
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:42.679
because we' re getting to the
final straight and before I say goodbye

726
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:44.440
there' s a lot to talk
about. I' d love you to

727
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:47.920
tell us, please, last message, a message you' d give to

728
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:52.920
the whole planet. Earth will be
translated into all languages, languages and dialects,

729
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:58.400
in all parents, broadcast on the
Internet, on radio, on television,

730
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:05.360
etcetera. What final message you would
give to the whole planet from where

731
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:10.440
you are, ok me, I
would always tell them in values, in

732
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:17.079
minors, to respect minors, protect
their rights as if it were the only

733
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:22.800
thing you have to do in life. I think that would change the social

734
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:29.760
issue without much more. Worry about
the minors. That would be, I

735
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:31.400
think, and let me tell you, it' s not onion. I

736
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:36.400
really appreciate your friendship, but it' s not an onion, because I

737
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.239
wouldn' t have to say it, too. But of many messages that

738
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:45.800
I have heard ending in these conversations, none had told me this and I

739
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:52.559
think I agree with you 100%
in the sense that if we take care

740
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:57.320
of our children, if we take
care of our children, this world would

741
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:01.760
be different. This world would be
totally different. And I think you just

742
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:07.920
hit a nail that many people have
thrown darts, to be happy, to

743
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:12.199
fight for dreams. Yeah, yeah, that' s fine, but today

744
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:16.800
I think this dart hit the center
100 out of 100, because I think

745
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:20.800
it would, the world would be
different. Thank you very much, Counselor,

746
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.880
Thank you very much, chas smith, cut hug. Thanks to each

747
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:30.559
and every one of you share comment. I think it' s very important

748
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:37.480
if someone has something to comment on
to discuss legal advice. That' s

749
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:44.760
where Whatsapp' s contact with the
lawyer Naturalenato García four, four, two,

750
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:50.119
seven, seven, six, thirteen
zero, four, two, seven,

751
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:54.960
six, three, zero is appearing. There you can get in touch

752
00:57:55.079 --> 00:58:00.440
with him and give me that I
am going to help Tiende at national level

753
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:02.719
and also, because of all the
topics that we have already seen by Luis

754
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:07.480
Miguel Salgado, we see that you
have very good morning, good afternoon,

755
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.000
good night wherever you are and surely
we will meet in some other chapter.

756
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:30.679
What a good question until soon,
bye

