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Well, I was always called when
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All I heard about was the self
styled genius. So that's what I

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took seriously, that I was styling
myself a genius. And you know,

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anybody can do that. Toast Jedediah
to love on my terms? Was it

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the only terms anybody ever knows?
You know, my first picture would never

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have been made, never in a
million years, if the producer had lived

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in Hollywood, had any knowledge of
Hollywood. It was a total accident,

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total piece of luck, like winning
six hundred thousand dollars from a quarter in

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a jackpot. And it couldn't go
on. And I knew that because they

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took my next picture away from me
and butchered the end of it. I

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was going to show them that they
were wrong. And I have spent the

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rest of my life showing people trying
to prove that what is said is wrong.

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And that's been an enormous waste of
spirit and of energy. That's a

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mistake that will be corrected one of
these dates. Well, I've always hated

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Hollywood, but I hate almost everything
in the modern world, and Hollywood is

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simply the most pleasant place to live
in left. I don't know how to

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run a newspaper, mister Thatcher.
I just try everything I can think of

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it. You know, I am
a romantic, and I was a romantic

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in the early nineteenth century way.
I wanted every experience, every kind of

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thing, and so I went to
Hollywood in that spirit, and I should

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have left in that spirit. There's
only one person in the world to decide

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what I'm going to do, and
that's me. I don't believe there is

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any wisdom and compromise unless you're a
politician. And to the extent that movies

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are politics, I don't belong in
movies. My pictures don't work at all

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unless they work my way. It's
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They simply fall apart unless they're done
my way. So it isn't nobility,

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it's a self protection. You're right, mister Thatcher. I did lose

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a million dollars last year. I
expect to lose a million dollars this year.

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I expect to lose a million dollars
next year. You know, mister

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Thatcher. At the rate of a
million dollars a year, I have to

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close this place in sixty years.
Ask anybody of my age what they feel

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about themselves when they're young, I
think you'll get a very waffly answer.

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I think of myself of having been
an awfully nice fellow then, and I

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may have blacked out, you know, whole sections of dreadful behavior, but

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I've genuinely blocked them out. I
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as an angelically movie from one show. I think I did pretty well under

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the circumstances. I am going to
make King Lear and a picture called The

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Dreamers, and I'll go on saying
that until I don't. But it looks

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as though it's going to happen.
But you know, I've had a wonderful,

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fascinating life. I can't complain.
I'm the luckiest person I know,

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and I'd rather be remembered as a
good guy than as a difficult genius.

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Those words you just heard were from
legendary actor, director, and personal all

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time favorite of this host Orson Wells. That clip was filmed by Entertainment Tonight,

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one week prior to the death of
Wells. It's reflective and we can

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hear subtle regrets he has, most
particularly with his first film, Citizen Kane.

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Our story begins in nineteen thirty eight
when orson wells radio telling of War

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of the World's caused NASS hysteria.
Because of this, RKO Picture studiohead George

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Schaeffer wanted to work with Wells because
he commanded attention. Wells was facing monumental

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debt due to the failure of his
most two recent plays, so he took

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the Landmark deal for one hundred thousand
dollars for two pictures in full creative control.

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In July of nineteen thirty nine,
he began work on his first feature

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film that would look at a man
that had wealth and power, but his

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inability to love, care, and
be open to emotion shelters him and limits

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his happiness. That film would be
Citizen Kane, and to this day there

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is controversy surrounding it. It is
still unknown if Wells made this film as

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an attack against then media mogul William
Randolph Hurst. To make the film,

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Wells borrought on Hermann Mankowitz to help
write the script, and Greg Toland,

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a cinematographer. In our next clip
from a nineteen seventy interview on The Dick

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Cabot Show, Wells discusses making his
first film, the issues with Hurst in

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the studio and other aspects of note
though here how charming Wells can be in

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self depreciating. That is one of
the things that allowed Wells to get away

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with so much and keep some people
in the studio behind him during the filming

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of this film twenty six years old, and you made Citizen Kane and they

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said, you can't do these things. You can't have the background in focus

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or whatever it was, or you
can't shoot a scene that way, mister

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Wells or young mister Wells or orson
or whatever they call you then and you

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knew that you could. And how
did you know this? Because I didn't

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know any better. And it's very
much in the line with what Jack was

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saying earlier in the show. It's
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sheer dumbness. You're sure it's got
to be your good and your gratia's ignorance.

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There's no authority in the world like
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be something more than that. Technically, I mean, how did you know

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that? You know technically that the
whole bag of movies can be learned in

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about a day and a half.
Hey, kids, you not now how

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does it work? How do you
do it? You get a guy who

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knows and then ask him and that's
the end of it. It isn't much

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harder than taking home movies. It's
just about three points finder. And all

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these guys who do it try to
make a big mystery of it because that's

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they're living. And I have the
right to say it because I had in

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my first picture in Kane, the
greatest cameraman who ever lived was Greg Toland,

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and he came to my office and
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your picture. My name is Toland. I said, why do you,

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mister Toland? He said, because
you've never made a picture and you don't

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know what cannot be done. And
so I said, but I really don't.

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Can you tell me? Says,
there's nothing to it. He gave

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me the day and a half lessons
and he was right, camera, that's

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right, it has nothing to do. And so we had the day and

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a half and there it was.
But the only thing was I've been directing

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in the theater for years and I
nowadays they have lighting people. We did

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them, and I had some of
the greatest lighting people in fact, I

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think, but many of the shows
I lit myself, and I was supervised

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at and I thought a director did
that in a movie. So for the

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first ten days I was more moving
the lights around, you see, and

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Toland was behind me, fixing it
up and changing the readings and saying,

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shut up, let him go on. I want to see what he's up

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to, which was very chic of
him, I think. And then somebody,

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somebody told me, and then I
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apologized and everything. I thought,
that's what the directors did. Because if

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you see a picture by Ford,
for example, you were speaking of Jack

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Ford earlier, he said must be
in a hundred cameraman in his long career,

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and almost every forward picture you can
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it's a forward picture, just from
the physical look of it. His his

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signature is on it, you know. And when every every list of great

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films, of course that many of
them lead with Citizen Kane and say it's

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it's the finest film made, do
you agree? No, certainly not My

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next one is that's no, not
the not the one after that, the

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one I'm preparing at this moment,
or the next one that's going to make

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history. Could you give us the
title of that. I have decided what

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it is yet. Oh now,
could I just check one other thing with

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you? Is it true that the
Hearsts tried to actually have the film destroyed

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before it was They tried to have
it destroyed. They even tried to frame

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me one well, in one town, I was doing some kind of date

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I don't know what, bond tour, lecture, some kind of a gig,

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and I was in a nightclub afterwards, waiting to go back to my

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hotel. I will supper and waiter
count says, as a police officer wants

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to see you. Well, I
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I'm sure I'm guilty. I don't
know how you are about it,

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but you know. And then I
see a cop. I know I did

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it. There was no way out
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him. And he took me aside
and he said, Austin, I don't

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know why they almost call me.
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hotel room. I said why.
He says, they've got a minor staked

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out there and a photographer, a
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I prefer to tell it that way, but I mean as opposed to r

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and they were going to frame me. I would have been in jail if

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the you know, with the cops
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That was not mister Hurst itself.
It was somebody in that town who thought

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he'd get in good with the boss
by doing by doing a favorite. I

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don't think Hurst would have stooped to
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I did have a conversation with him
about about the picture, which was in

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an elevator in San Francisco the night
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together, and he'd known my father. I never met him, you know,

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And I introduced myself things you'll do
when you're young, you know,

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And I said, would you like
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he didn't answer, and I said, well, mister Kane would have come.

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And that's the difference between the two
people, because the character of Charles

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Foster k had enough class to have
gone to the opening, but he just

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very uptight. That was the end
of that. It wasn't really about him.

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It was made up with a lot
of people. That's the truth.

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What's the last time you saw it? I saw it that opening in San

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Francisco, and I snuck out right
after it started. I've never seen a

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picture of mine after I finished it. You haven't seen Citizen Knan all these

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years, no picture I've ever made
except as an active I've never seen a

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picture I've directed. Only words.
Yeah, well a thousand times in the

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cutting room. But why wouldn't you
want to say it now? Because I'd

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like to sit here and think how
good it must have been? You know,

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is there, ever, is there
any chance that you would change any

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of it or do any of it
again? Of course everything you'd want to

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change everything. I think, you
know, don't you want to change things

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after you've done them? And a
movie cat because no, that was the

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whole thing. I just and I
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and all those great pictures and I
know if I saw them. Oh.

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The battle with Hurst is the key
controversy with this film. Hurst owned newspapers,

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magazines, and radio stations across the
United States, and with that came

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major influence. If anyone dared cross
him or at the slightest perceived disrespect,

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Hurst, with his power and influence, could take down anyone or anything.

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Wells in this film used several illusions
to Hurst, from the large incomplete mansion

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named Xanadu, to King's second wive's
obsession with puzzles. Even the word Rosebud,

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a Hollywood legend that Hurst gave this
pet name to his mistress's genitalia,

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were all fell by many to be
shots at Hurst. To keep this in

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other activities secret, Wells had to
employ some secretive techniques, as explained in

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this clip from the documentary The Battle
Over Citizen King. When Mekowitz proposed the

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story of Hurst, Wells seized on
this as his last best chance. It

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was perfect, an American saga,
a giant who brings ruin to all and

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to himself. Housman was dispatched to
babysit Mank in a little desert town called

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Victorville. You know bank which was
a drug he jake Rosy keep him off

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the booze. Well, he wrote
this thing, and Housman and myself sort

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of the go between. We would
drive up to Victorville, get part of

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the script, could bring it back
to Worshipton, back and forth. Mank

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called his script American, which was
the title Hurst always claimed for himself.

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But as Housman remembered, we were
also creating a vehicle suited to a man

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who, at twenty four was only
slightly less fabulous than the hero he would

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be portraying. And the deeper we
penetrated into the heart of Charles Foster Kane,

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the closer we seemed to come to
the identity of Orson Wells. As

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well as got the pages from Victorville. He attacked the script with all of

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his craft and with all of his
life to that point. The boy's loss

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of his mother that never happened to
Hurst, it happened to Wells. He

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visualized himself as that character. See
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I mean that was it, you
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they could get away with it.
I don't think they really realized how touchy

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the old man was, and that
this was Hollywood. Then it would be

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hell to pay. They knew enough
to run it by the lawyers. From

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that point of view, they weren't
at risk anyway. If Hurst sued,

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that would be great. The film
would be news everywhere. They'd write in

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some lines about Marion's drinking and those
horrid puzzles. No one in Hollywood could

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miss the joke. They'd even put
in Rosebud the secret word, which they

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claimed was Hurst's pet name for Marion's
private parts. They'd drive the old man

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crazy, turned the town on its
eart called it on Monday morning by Jim

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Wilkinson, the head of the editing
department. My boss was saying this,

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and you know that fellow Orson Wells
has come to the studio. I said,

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yeah, I know, I've seen
him as well. He's pulled a

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fast food on the studio. I
said, what do you mean. He

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said, well, he's got this
new picture and he asked him for okay

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to make three what he called test
for this picture. And they gave me

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the okay and he shot the tests, so called test, and he said

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they looked at the scenes and realized
their scenes for the picture, but not

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just tests. So they've given him
a green light to go ahead and make

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the picture. I never saw anybody
more focused. He knew exactly what he

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wanted, and he and Greg Tolan
were on a completely single wavelength. I

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never forget the day I came in
and that they had sawed a hole out

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of the board floor, which you
could do, and they were both in

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their hands and knees drawing out the
dirt like children. In a sandbox.

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He was totally absorbed in himself in
the picture of what he was doing.

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But you couldn't look at those rushes
coming in every day. Those films shot

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the day before he got realizing,
you we're getting something quite extraordin the photography

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and the angles and the shooting.
It was more of us. It was

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just mar of us. He was
okay with his cart blosh deals, and

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he would not let the executives with
that studio come anywhere near the set.

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They came in and Urson said,
who's gotta baseball, Let's play some catch.

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So so everybody started to playing catch. But of course it jove to

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the breast, absolutely loony. With
his sound stage closed, with control over

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everything on his set, Wells thought, at last he had his project in

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hand. Nothing stopped him. After
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He acted in steel ankle braces and
directed from a wheelchair. He's still said

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he hated Hollywood, but at the
studio he'd found the biggest magic kid on

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Earth. Then, much like today, nothing stay secret in Hollywood. Eventually

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the word got out in Hurst immediately
went on the attack. He refused to

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allow his newspapers and radio stations to
advertise the film. He sicked his gossip

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columnists from many newspapers on RKO Pictures
and Wells, and he threatened to blackmail

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studio heads with photos and evidence of
them committing sexually deviant behavior. This led

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to other studios trying to buy the
film from RKO Pictures to destroy it.

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In our final clip for Today,
from the HBO film RKO two eighty one,

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which is a biopic about the making
of Citizen Kane Wells played by liv

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Schreiber, makes an impassioned plea to
the heads of the major studios to let

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his film be released as he made
it good Afternoon today, man from Germany

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invaded Greece. He's already swallowed Poland, Denmark, Norway and Belgium is bombing

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London as I speak. Everywhere this
man goes he crushes the life and the

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freedom of his subjects. He shows
yellow stars and their lapels, He takes

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their voices. In this country,
we still have our voices. We can

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argue with them, and we can
sing, and we can be heard,

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because we are for the moment free. No one can tell us what to

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say or how to say it,
can they? Gentlemen? I am one

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voice. That is all. My
picture is one voice, one view,

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one opinion, nothing more. Men
are dying in Europe now and Americans soon

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will be, so that we can
surmount the tyrants and the dictators. Will

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you send a message across America that
one man can take away our voices?

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So who is mister Hurst and who
is mister Wells? Well? Mister Hurst

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built a palace of brick and mortar
and little wars and corpses piled high.

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Mister Wells built a palace of illusion. Sir? What we call that painting

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camera trick? It's nothing, nothing
but a dream. Today you have the

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chance to let the dream triumph.
Thank you? Was it successful or did

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Hurst win in his battle to destroy
it? And what is the everlasting legacy

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of this picture? I hope you
will join me next week when we will

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answer those questions and kickstart our month
long tribute to Orson Wells with the review

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of, in my opinion, in
the opinion of many others, the greatest

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wmn H command don't get up. Mazel

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hey, everybody, here we go
Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are in our

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number two New Marrow Dose on this
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four, live from the studios of
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Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And
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online. Go to my website Matt
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options, social media links, contact
and folks show archives, et cetera,

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et cetera. Jenny is here as
well, President account it for and we

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have returning to the show LACYBB also
known as who I Am? And I'm

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gonna turn that up and uh got
the keyboard plugged in and everything. Let's

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see, let's see what we can
hear. Oh, I hear something.

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I gotta I gotta jack the game
here this student studio. It's quiet.

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Are you able to turn up on
your end? It's coming through quiet,

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but it is coming through which is
half the battle there. Let me see

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if I can turn this up more. We're getting there, getting there.

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That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, we got you, We got you.

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All right. So so, uh, Lacey was on the show a

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couple months ago, I think,
but uh, but unfortunately so wasn't It

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wasn't able to play live and we
had an an audio we had an issue

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with the audio file anyway, so
quite the show. So Lacey is back,

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uh, and it's gonna do a
bunch of songs live for us.

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So really looking forward to this.
And we've got the got the keyboard plugged

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in and you've got your headphone,
Mike, and uh, I'm I'm ready

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to hear you live. We did
play a bunch of studio tracks. Yeah,

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of course last time you were here, but but this will be this

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will be our first time getting to
see you live, hear you live.

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Of course you're if you're watching on
Facebook, you can see you can see

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Lacey performed live. But yeah,
this is uh, we're excited, me

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too, very excited and thank you
for having me back. I appreciate it

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absolutely. So yeah, definitely we'll
do some songs. Can't wait. All

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right, all right, let's hear
something. Okay, here we go this

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uh, this first song I just
wrote like ten days ago actually, oh

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and yep, so this is how
it goes. You know, stuff's always

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popping out of me. And so
this one, this one came out and

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put some words to it and it
started on it as electronics. So here

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we go. All right, we'll
mix here here. Okay, everything I

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know has come true. I can
see anythings I do, my I see

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something new. What I do is
what I'm into. Going to the show,

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shutting all the names. I don't
even know when I'm gonna sleep,

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never gonna start. Oh God,
let's get low. Love it in my

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heart ruby love, is it gets
through? There's enoughing new. Just remember

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believe something true, Yes, something
true, pick it up the bugget and

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by period and let's take a ride. Oh you doing all you have nothing?

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Live life like real life, real
life, fast nights, real life

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nights, find time in line,
real life, fast night, real nice,

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you nice? Going to the show
shown to get go find it by

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the bapside, don't know, never
gonna stop. Let's get load. Love

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it in my heart will be flow
is it gonna go? There's nothing new?

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Just remember son song true song,
sing true sound sang true. There

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you go, all right, it's
my song called something True. I like

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that a lot. It was fun. Thanks so much much, Lacey BB

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of Who I Am is here with
us live in studio. Now what it

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So? That's uh, that's new
right, you said that's from you wrote

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that ten days ago. I did. Let me finally, Oh I did.

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Yeah, I wrote that. Yeah, just I came up, I

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kind of found created that sound,
and then I said, I really love

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that sound, and so I started
thinking, well, what could I put

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to that? You know, what
words could I put to that? Right?

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So I yeah, I sat there
and just start thinking about something true,

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being true to yourself. And next
thing, you know, the words

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came out, and you know,
once since I go back to the keyboards,

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I have to play it and see
if the words that I write actually

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fit. Oh yeah, that's not
always the case. So I had to

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change it up a little bit.
You know, I send it to my

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friend, I'm like, oh,
listen to this, and so like,

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since I sent it to them,
I've already changed some of it. So

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it's like that's the process of you
know, getting it to a tried and

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true song. Yeah, yeah,
Jay Fad says in the chat room,

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I could dance to that nice.
Appreciate appreciate now? Is that usually how

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it happens? As the music come
to you first, typically and then the

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lyrics are it. It goes both
ways. Actually, sometimes I'm just mess

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around on the keyboards and I say
that sound. I got to incorporate that

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sound into a song somehow. Yeah. And then sometimes I'm messing around on

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my acoustic piano part and I'm like, I just come up with a chord

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like sound, and like, what
if I did this with the chords and

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if I arrange them like this?
And you know, usually it starts with

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like two or three chords that match
each other and the next thing, you

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know, start writing stuff around it. A chorus, a break, a

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bridge, boom. Now you got
a song? Very cool? Do you

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want to you want to play another
one for us? Yeah? In fact,

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I'll do a song that I did
that with. I'll do let me

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know when it's time to rock.
Oh yeah, I like this one.

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Yeah. We played the studio version
of this lame You're Here? Yeah.

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Yeah. Studio version has Tanya Venom
on it playing lead guitar. So what

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what band is she? From Again. She's from storm Stress band storm Stressress.

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Let's see. Okay, here we
go. Let me know when it's

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time to right, all right,
Lacey Lacy bb of who I Am live

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in studio with us. Okay,
when is time to rock? Me?

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No? When is time to rock? When the mic is on? When

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Way and I can shop? There's
nothing but have you heard than when that

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Scott is calling? That the is
called do want your do? That's where

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I'll get you there. Let me
know when it's time to buck. Let

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me know when it's time to fall. Let me know when the mic is

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hot. Let me know when I
can shop. They may not before mist

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That's where my d that's where my
soul only that's right mac connishon at least

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when's time to rock? Let me
know when's time to roll. Let me

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know when the mic is on.
Let me know when I could chop my

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heart's all. He's on thet.
It's happened a cat in again my great

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and my think to stay. But
it only means when you're shure too.

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A hell? Where's time to rock? My fall? When it's time to

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roll? I am when my show
when we can Yes, that's my song.

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Very nice lacy baby of who I
am is here with this live and

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studio. Who I am is is
how people should find you online? Correct,

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And it's and it's uh and it's
and it's who dot I Am.

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Yeah, it's who I am.
You can not all the places will let

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me do who dot I am?
Yeah? Yeah, so you know who

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dot I am is like technically what
I call myself. It's it's patterned after

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Will I Am. I don't know. I didn't even I didn't even think

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of that I am because he has
huge influence on just everything I oh,

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my whole beginning. So yeah,
where the name comes from? So yeah,

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who died I am? Or who
I am Live? Or who I

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am? If there's not a lot
of who I am is out there right,

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if you actually search it, you'll
find me on YouTube. I got

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a huge YouTube thing with all my
videos, and I'm on you know,

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Instagram. I do my radio show
live stuff on there and my music stuff,

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and then also on Facebook you can
see my radio page and you can

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also see my my live stuff,
my who I am stuff and performances and

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stuff. By the way, regarding
that song, our friend Mariam banished in

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the chat room says, and I
didn't even think of this until she said

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it. She said, getting a
Jackson five feeling with some of that.

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Yeah, that's it didn't occur to
me until she said that, But yeah

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that's true. Yeah, sure,
absolutely, I know all about the Jackson

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vive. Yeah, pretty awesome.
There you go, there you go.

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You also you mentioned the radio show. We should mention that too so people

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can check that out. Yeah,
I'm I have a radio show on Wave

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Radio Boston WRB rocks dot com.
You can stream it live Thursdays five to

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six pm. And the the hook
on my show is it's always only local

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music. So I'm not gonna be
playing Aerosmith, not gonna be playing led

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Zeppelin, even though I love all
those bands, or you know whatever,

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00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:28,280
but just always searching for that local
flavor and it's something. It's like the

407
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,719
songs I pick or are like,
you know, songs that like who I

408
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,639
Am style, you know, things
that who I Am will like And it's

409
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,119
not like, you know, just
one style. You know. I like

410
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:45,280
all kinds of rock stations, So
I do rock music, be heavy or

411
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,840
it could be just a ballad,
you know, so whatever you would hear

412
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,880
on FM rock station but always local
artists. And the thing is you listen

413
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,039
to it and you're like, did
I just listen to a show full of

414
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:01,639
national artists? Because it's sounds like
a show full of national artists? Yeah.

415
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,760
Yeah, So that's how that goes. And when you say local in

416
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,679
your case because you're in Boston,
do you mean do you mean Boston or

417
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,320
do you mean Massachusetts? New England? New England? And I will admit

418
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,400
some people have reached out from further
places. Sometimes I'll play people that I'm

419
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,159
on a bill with and so like
one time I ended up doing a radio

420
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:28,480
interview with Your Best Nightmare, who
lives in New Jersey. So your Best

421
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:32,360
Nightmare Report or what up? Girls? She just released an album. Yeah

422
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,039
Your Best Nightmare is so good,
and so you know she's from Jersey,

423
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:42,039
but she was still on the show. Yeh. She's total local indie.

424
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,079
She played here, so you know, yeah, what's what's local? But

425
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:51,119
I try to keep it mainly local. Yeah, Boston, Southern New Hampshire,

426
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,280
New Hampshire, all these areas very
cool. You want to play another

427
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:01,440
one for sure? Sure? All
Okay, let's do Uh, I think

428
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:07,079
I'll do I think I'll do New
Love Okay, if you're just joining us,

429
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:19,760
we have Lacey bb here Who I
am? And uh? If you're

430
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,039
looking online, it's who dot I
am is uh how you say it?

431
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:28,000
Yeah? And Lacey is uh.
Lacey is performing live for us. Oh.

432
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,039
I like the glasses, thank you, there you go. This song

433
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:37,320
always gets these glasses reminds me of
Bootsy Collins. Yeah. Did you see

434
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,960
the Did you see the the commercial
with the bass players? No, I

435
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,599
haven't seen that. You have to
check it out. They got boots,

436
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,880
they got and they go. He's
like, I'm a love child from space

437
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,760
and he's like, okay, yeah, okay, here we go new love.

438
00:40:55,119 --> 00:41:17,880
All right. So I looking for
you. Love. My mind is

439
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:35,840
food what your life. This is
a rise to the love. My mind

440
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:42,480
is resenting a ready go. I'm
gonna do all the things that I know.

441
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:50,039
Sometimes it's true, is a take, but it's all equal to the

442
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:59,000
love you make. So I take
my time and I stay in love.

443
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:16,480
Uly Today you are my because I'm
looking for you. Love my mind is

444
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:35,239
wr This is the world to the
Lord. This time is mine. I

445
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:43,840
bl waste. I'm living proof.
I'm testing you have the fight of you.

446
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:50,960
Believe it. The love no one
can stop you FB. So I

447
00:42:51,599 --> 00:43:05,920
take my dom in, I stay
in line today. You are my because

448
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:22,559
I'm looking for you love, O
MI with children. This is the world

449
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:37,000
till you love. Tell me what
you're taking up right now? I believe

450
00:43:37,000 --> 00:44:01,320
in all your bass. So I
take my time in my stay a today.

451
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:19,400
You are no good ye looking for
you love. My mind is fill

452
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:52,360
which this is a world to do
you loved? Very nice, very nice.

453
00:44:53,039 --> 00:45:00,440
Lacy bb is here of who I
am? And what was I?

454
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,760
Oh there was something? Oh yeah, yeah the shirt Mother of Dragons.

455
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,519
I have to ask is that a
band? Or is that? What is

456
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:12,320
that? No? So it's a
game of Thrones. Oh okay, I

457
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,559
never got into that. Yeah,
and the Mother of Dragons is uh is

458
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:22,079
a reference to one of the characters, and she's a dragon queen. Yeah,

459
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:30,280
and I'm the mother my my and
like she was a dragon queen but

460
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:34,880
like the dragons loved her like they
were her her little babies. Yeah okay,

461
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,599
so okay, so the dragons are
my songs. Oh I got you

462
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,079
the Mother of Dragons? Oh okay, cool, cool, pretty cool?

463
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,719
Pretty cool? You want to play
another one? Yeah, yeah, Sue,

464
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:54,920
I got here. Let us do
we'll do glow all right. A

465
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,199
couple of these songs I don't have
released or recorded just yet. Oh okay,

466
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,800
so but they are ones that I
played live. Yeah, yeah,

467
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,119
all the time. Oh very cool. Okay, so this will be uh

468
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:15,719
yeah, so this is not sorry, what world radio for me? Yeah?

469
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,880
So this has not been heard on
the radio. This has only been

470
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,480
played live. Yeah, this has
not been heard on the radio. All

471
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:27,280
right, we like that. We
like that if you're just joining us,

472
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,280
Lacey BB is here with us live
in studio with the keyboard and the whole

473
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:36,519
setup, and it is this your
your standard set up live or this is

474
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:40,440
yeah? Yeah, and usually just
into the house. Yeah. It must

475
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:44,599
be nice to have the autonomy that
comes with, you know, just you're

476
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:46,800
not dependent on a band. It's
just you've got everything right there that you

477
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:58,920
need. Yes, Yeah, it's
a good when voice that I don't have

478
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:06,440
echo on. Yeah. It's it's
nice to write have everything kind of on

479
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:09,440
the same page as you. Yeah, exactly exactly. You know. I've

480
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:16,159
tried, you know, working with
other musicians to try to get a thing

481
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:24,400
going, and it's very difficult to
for one to have other people like that

482
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:30,519
weren't involved with creating your songs.
You know, start like doing your songs,

483
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,800
and then it's just like you said, it's it's the difference of having

484
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,519
basically everything at my command, and
you just can't do that with people.

485
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:46,159
So so I do with my keyboards. Keyboard is very happy to be told

486
00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:51,800
what to do right, exactly,
exactly, all right, So okay,

487
00:47:52,039 --> 00:48:15,840
yeah, this song is Glow lac
BB live in studio. Who Blow Blow?

488
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:27,840
I see the universe right show show
show me all your love it this

489
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:43,360
guy friends, let's go. Let's
go all engine night. I'm so excited.

490
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:52,480
I don't know how wag I see
you you see me that fat.

491
00:48:53,639 --> 00:49:04,960
I'm sort of that we're gonna fight
Goda cry over mine, gonna go to

492
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:21,840
time, Blow blow blow. I
see the universe rise show show show me

493
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:31,840
all you're loving this guy's friends.
Let's go. Let's go all inn.

494
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:45,440
My gang is badass because they see
the stars in the skuy. They're gonna

495
00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:54,800
make it in their hearts, gonna
fly. Everything is welcome to spread the

496
00:49:55,039 --> 00:50:09,599
love. Tag it in. It's
not the kiddy or Ez Blow blow blow.

497
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:20,920
I see the un over senor ride
show, show show me how you're

498
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:30,480
love it? This guy friend best
go. Let's go all in night.

499
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:38,079
That's right, I'm gonna go all
in this morning. Yeah, Connorton at

500
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:52,679
least, Jim, thanks so much. No, you know how to plow

501
00:50:53,800 --> 00:51:50,039
friends and shows up bo bo b
see the univer Ry show show show let

502
00:51:50,079 --> 00:52:00,000
me how you're love it this guy
friend, let's go, let's go June.

503
00:52:01,679 --> 00:52:19,400
That's right, everybody have a good
show today. And will yes,

504
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,000
that is Lacy Bbe. The song
is Glow. That was awesome, very

505
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:29,119
cool, very cool. Jay Fed's
on the chat room going right on,

506
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:37,639
go on in oh so true,
so true. The time goes quickly,

507
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,920
but I want to make sure I
definitely we want to hear one more.

508
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,079
But also yeah, yeah, but
I also want to make sure people know

509
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,880
where to find you online. Yeah. Also you can come see me at

510
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,280
the Jungle tomorrow. Okay, yep, be at the Jungle in Boston,

511
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,920
Summerville, five to eight, free
show, Come on in, have some

512
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,920
food, have some drink, gotta
be unheard. Is gonna be the uh

513
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:08,559
Nicole uh shoot, can't remember her
name, Nicole wonderpuol and and fish Max

514
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:12,679
two. We'll all be on that
built with who I am and it's gonna

515
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:16,679
be an awesome show at the Jungle. Everybody, come on down, yes,

516
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,599
yes, so. And then if
you want to go online find my

517
00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:25,639
stuff, go to Facebook, go
to who I Am on Facebook. It's

518
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,239
right there. And if you go
to I have a Facebook page, that's

519
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:37,360
the TWRS that's my radio show.
You can also go to band camp and

520
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:40,079
resource my songs if you want.
They're all all my releases. I have

521
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:45,480
five releases okay that we played some
last time that was fun. Yeah,

522
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:52,159
so yeah, those are the and
then YouTube too, basically everywhere TikTok,

523
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,159
I'm on all of them. Yeah, and I'm putting stuff out too,

524
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,559
fun stuff, just who I Am
stuff. You just want to see who

525
00:53:57,559 --> 00:54:06,400
I Am performing and you know,
doing her musical journey. Yeah, it's

526
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,239
almost like, you know, if
you want to see one part of the

527
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,719
journey, you go to TikTok.
You want to see another part of the

528
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,880
journey, you go to YouTube if
you want to see different and so all

529
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,039
these are different parts of the Who
I Am journey. Okay, okay,

530
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,320
And remind us about the radio show
too that you do. Radio show is

531
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:28,519
Thursdays from five to six Thursdays from
five to six on WRB Rocks Dot com

532
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:36,480
that's Wave Radio Boston and I do
I do. It's a live show from

533
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:42,519
five to six yep. And I
will either play all local songs on like

534
00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:45,039
a song playlist situation, and a
lot of them are my friends and people

535
00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:50,239
I've seen out in town, so
I talk about that. And then a

536
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,639
lot of times I have guests in, like next week, I have the

537
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,360
Fantastic Trees coming into my show.
Cool, and they're gonna do some live

538
00:54:55,519 --> 00:55:00,199
music and stuff. So that's always
fun. So yeah, yeah, local

539
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,239
music, local live. Who I
Am Radio show outstanding, outstanding? All

540
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:19,199
right, uh Lacy, let's hear
one more. Okay, uh okay,

541
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,559
we'll do. Let's go, let's
go. All right, this is let's

542
00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:57,599
go, Lacey bbe who I Am? Everybody come by the time. Everybody

543
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:15,800
get this hor You just have to
stay well, they must be that time

544
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:31,320
when the lights go down. The
means radle time place stay go everybody out

545
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:42,800
yo. See now let's come to
the place, you know, Let's go,

546
00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:54,440
let's come be born to the farm. Don't let it go God,

547
00:56:54,559 --> 00:57:00,199
let it grow, go, let
it grow. Step been to the Live

548
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:09,599
hundred to find your way way.
Yeah, you just happened to the moment,

549
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:22,480
So make it today? Would it
must be that time? The Let's

550
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:32,559
go down there the beach right on
time. Only want place to go.

551
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:40,519
Everybody up and you'll see you.
Now, let's go to the place you

552
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:55,400
know, right, you contend at
least let's go beep cross the fo live

553
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:00,960
in the trees. It's not what
it seems. That what it seems.

554
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:09,400
You'll love the tree. Oh yeah, you'll love the tree. You'll love

555
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:23,920
the tree. Yeah. Everybody wants
their face your bother time, Taylor,

556
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:37,880
it's too late. One more time. Let's go be born of the moon.

557
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:52,320
Let's go, let's go be part
of the show one more too,

558
00:58:55,519 --> 00:59:07,800
everybody, very nice, very nice, Lacey BB who I am, great

559
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,840
stuff, And all right, we
gotta go, Lacy, thank you again

560
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,880
so much. Absolutely absolutely, And
if you're listening live stick around. Coming

561
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:20,679
up in the third hour, lou
Antonucci is here, so don't go anywhere.

562
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,440
And I think as we uh finish
out this hour, I'm gonna play

563
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,079
a little a little edge wise for
you.
