WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:35.880 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. We're actually in I think the busiest part 3 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:39.280 of the NBA Summer League, because you've got the Vegas League, which every 4 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:43.840 team participates in the league that was in Salt Lake City, and I feel 5 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:47.640 like there's another another city that's hosting Summer league games in the NBA, and 6 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:53.520 you know, it's not something many people really care about. Obviously, Brownie 7 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:57.119 James has been the most talked about player in the Summer League, I feel 8 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.399 like, and certainly it's been the biggest storyline and we all saw it coming, 9 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:03.359 and even though it's continued to be talked about nationally, I think a 10 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.799 lot of folks, myself included, have some fatigue over the Ronnie James stuff 11 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.400 because you know, it's pretty clear what's going on here, and you know, 12 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:14.879 every time he goes out there and continues to look as if he's not 13 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:19.200 as good as anybody else out there and he's just not an NBA caliber player, 14 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:22.200 I mean, the shock value wears off every time. In fact, 15 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:25.239 there may not have ever been any shock value. The shock would have been 16 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.079 if he went out there and looked like he belonged, And unfortunately for him, 17 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:30.439 he just hasn't done that. I mean, he's putting up numbers and 18 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:34.400 looking like a guy that ends up just being one of the last dudes that 19 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:38.879 gets a spot on an NBA Summer League team that you know rarely gets a 20 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:44.079 whole lot of run. So, you know, I get it, nobody 21 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:46.799 really cares about the summer League. But I mean, what is worthy of 22 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:49.799 a little more attention than it's getting, at least from what I can gather, 23 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:56.079 is the number two pick overall, Alex Sar who last night in the 24 00:01:56.120 --> 00:02:00.920 Summer League had quite literally one of the worst performances as you'll ever see as 25 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:04.239 far as a stat line. I mean, have you seen this yet, 26 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:07.360 John, I haven't. This guy played a total of thirty minutes last night. 27 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:12.879 Again, he was the number two pick overall. Zero points, oh 28 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:16.919 for fifteen from the field, oh for seven from three, oh from two 29 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:23.360 from the free throw line, three turnovers and five ouls. That was his 30 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:25.520 stat line. And he's the second pick in the draft. And again it's 31 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:31.680 not getting a ton of attention because it you know, this is somebody that 32 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:35.199 was the number two pick and nobody really knew who he was, right like, 33 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.120 those two guys, and I've already forgot the name of the first guy. 34 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:44.240 His name it's a little it is like zach something, yeah, Zachary 35 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.560 Richie or something something like that. And it's not because they're you know, 36 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:53.439 they're terrible players. It's just because they're not They're not anybody that the Basketball 37 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:54.599 aheads were that familiar with. I mean, I think we knew there was 38 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:58.599 a chance that these two guys could be, you know, picked pretty high, 39 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:00.360 and the draft is believed to be very long. But you know, 40 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:07.159 even in like if you look at Alex Saar's stats in Perth, Australia last 41 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:10.400 year in the NBL, I mean, he averaged non points a game. 42 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:14.400 I mean, so to expect him to be a non point a game guy 43 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.360 and right away be a really successful NBA players a little and realistic. And 44 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:21.800 there have been guys that you know, don't have a great stat line leaving 45 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:24.199 a European or a professional cunt, you know, leaving a pro team across 46 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.719 the Pond or somewhere else, or even the G League for that matter, 47 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.879 that once they end up getting to the NBA, it does take a little 48 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:35.000 time and they eventually become really good, and that may happen with these guys, 49 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.159 but you know, there there were some guys that can't think of the 50 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.960 guy for Kansas, what is his name? Goodness, gracious, he was 51 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.879 in the league not even that long ago. Might be Devonte Graham or maybe 52 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:51.000 Frank Mason. A former Kansas guard played against one of these guys, either 53 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.319 Risa Schet or if I'm saying his name right, or Sar and you know, 54 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.639 came out and said, look, if that guy's got the upside of 55 00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:00.599 the number one, number two pick in the NBA draft, the NBA's in 56 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:04.319 trouble. And I don't Again, there have been plenty of performances of Summer 57 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:09.879 League that seemed phenomenal and it ended up meaning nothing. And there's been performances 58 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.599 where it looked concerning as if the guy may be a bust and it doesn't 59 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.080 mean anything. You just never know. In fact, Victor um Mignyama, 60 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:16.959 I mean last year his first Summer League game, everybody was watching, there 61 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:19.399 was so much hype, and I tuned in to watch it live. He 62 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:24.519 looked like he didn't belong on the floor with everybody else. He looked completely 63 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:29.160 uncomfortable with any physicality, couldn't finish, just looked, I mean again, 64 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.160 And there's the reminder that he's eighteen years old, and it's pretty normal for 65 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:34.120 a guy to be a little bit, you know, deer in the headlights, 66 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.600 a little overwhelmed, even if it is the summer League. So I 67 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:39.879 don't want to claim that this guy is going to be a bum. But 68 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:44.000 man, a not a good showing for a guy who was just drafted with 69 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.959 the second overall pick. Because usually guys that are you know, picked that 70 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:51.439 high, they're gonna play a good amount of minutes. But you know, 71 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:55.639 it's not I think there are oftentimes either just smart enough to know this or 72 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:58.600 they're encouraged to do this, and that's just to not try to take over, 73 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:00.920 right like, you know, what game come to you. It's an 74 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:02.240 old cliche, but it's a cliche for a reason. If you're picked that 75 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:05.959 high, you're gonna have eyeballs on you and everybody's gonna expect you to come 76 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:09.519 out there and you know, put up forty shots in a game, and 77 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:12.279 that's just you know, that's probably not the right way to go about it. 78 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:15.199 But to see that he played thirty minutes and missed all fifteen of his 79 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:18.439 shots. I mean, goodness, gracious, that's not a not a good 80 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:23.480 look, not a good look at all. All right, it's I say, 81 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:25.720 let's get it started. We're seven minutes into the five o'clock hours, 82 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.439 so we're a little late coming back because you know, my clock management once 83 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:31.319 again was not good today and I'll try to do better. But it is 84 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:34.839 the five o'clock hour and you are listening to Coffee and Company fuel by Thornton's. 85 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:38.720 Make sure you sign up to become a member of the Thornton's Refreshman Awards 86 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:42.279 program if you haven't, because they're gonna hook you up. 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You can sign up, it's free and you'll take advantage 95 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:13.959 of everything that comes with being a member of the Thornton's Refreshing Awards program. 96 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.959 All right, so we've been we've been pretty busy throughout the first couple of 97 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:20.560 hours here once again, I've done it each hour. Why not do it 98 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:26.120 here again. I'm encouraging. I'm not demanding, but I'm encouraging you to 99 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.879 go buy tickets to the TBT game coming up on Saturday at one o'clock if 100 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:33.199 you haven't yet, they, I believe are close to breaking the record. 101 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.319 I mean, maybe that's maybe I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself, 102 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:39.879 but all I can do is base it off of what tickets you can see 103 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:44.720 are available. So earlier today it was announced that all tickets in the one 104 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:48.079 hundred and two hundred levels at the at Freedom Hall have been are sold out. 105 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:51.600 So the lower bowl at Freedom Hall completely sold out. That's approximately forty 106 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:56.800 five hundred I think. So you can now get tickets in the sections that 107 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:00.079 they have opened in the three hundreds, which is the upper area, and 108 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.560 they don't have the entire place staged as if you're going to you know, 109 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.759 potentially have a full crowd because they're not going to have that. But they've 110 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:09.160 got what looks to be like ten sections up there in the three hundreds that 111 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:13.399 you can purchase tickets in, and if you double click on each section, 112 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:16.120 it'll show you which seats are available in each of those sections. And just 113 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:19.399 by the view that I'm looking at, I feel like they've got to be 114 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:23.759 close to, you know, maybe six thousand. I mean, maybe I'm 115 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.120 you know, maybe maybe my rough estimate is way off. But again, 116 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:30.839 forty five hundred is the lower bowl, and if you look at the entire 117 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.959 availability that's upstairs or at upstairs, at the at the upper level, you 118 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.480 know, I'd be a lot to say that there's not many tickets left. 119 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:41.040 But you know, the sections that are in the middle of the upper level, 120 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:44.920 I mean, the majority of those are gone. Now you get a 121 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:46.079 little bit to the left and the right, where you don't have as good 122 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.759 of a view, there's more available, but still even some of those are 123 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:51.680 gone. And by the way, they don't have like if you're if you're 124 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:55.560 getting a ticket, if you like, if you're turned off by the idea 125 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:57.600 of going, because you now know you can only get a ticket in the 126 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:01.439 upper level they don't have. They're not even opening the section that don't have 127 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.879 like the view from you know, center court. Now again you'll have some 128 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.160 that's closer to one goal and you have the others that are closer to the 129 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.040 other side. But like you, you won't be in a seat where you're 130 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.519 sitting like directly behind with a terrible view. So I'm hoping they can break 131 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:20.879 the record again. The record is seven two, d and two and they 132 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.040 were not far from it last year, and I think there's even more anticipation 133 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.759 for it this year. One because this team is going to be really good 134 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:28.839 again. I think they could be even better. And also I think last 135 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.080 year there were people that didn't go because they didn't really know. They didn't 136 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:33.919 know what it was, they didn't know what to expect. They just, 137 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:35.440 you know, it's like, yeah, okay, I'll watch it on TV 138 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.159 if it's on ESPN Plus, but you know, I'm not. Yeah, 139 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.879 you know, they just didn't make it a priority because it's not normal to 140 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.480 go watch Louisville basketball in July. But here we are. And I think 141 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.600 those who went last year, I can't imagine there's anybody that took in the 142 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:52.320 experience at Freedom Hall and didn't enjoy it. I mean it was, it 143 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.600 was awesome, and I expect it'll be the exact same thing coming up on 144 00:08:56.639 --> 00:09:00.159 Saturday. So tip offs at one o'clock and it'll be on five. So 145 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.159 if you can't make it, you can watch it on Fox, not FS 146 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.600 one, not FS two, not on some stream like the actual Fox channel. 147 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:11.120 WDRB here locally will have this game live. So these guys, I 148 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:16.960 mean, to be honest with you, outside of outside of Tres, I 149 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:18.639 mean, I know Peyton played in the league for a little while, Russ 150 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.480 as well, Nanu played for I think a couple of years, so some 151 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.600 of these guys spent some time in the NBA. But like they'll be on, 152 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.200 they'll be watched. They'll be playing in front of a live audience and 153 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.919 a television audience that's as big as they've played in front of since they played 154 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:41.200 at Louisville. And I say play because obviously Tres is different by the way, 155 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.679 Trees played in playoff games and was a part of some really good teams, 156 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.080 So Tres is the outlier. But like Nanhu, he never played big 157 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.639 minutes when he was with the Rockets when they were in a big Game, 158 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.000 Like, I don't even think he spent much time there. I think he 159 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.320 spent most of it in the G League. Peyton, you know, he 160 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:56.320 was with the Pistons when they were terrible, and he did get some run 161 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.799 in his first couple of seasons, but I don't think those games were you 162 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.720 know, highly watched. And I know that, like nationally, the TBT 163 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:07.399 is not going to be an appointment viewing thing for some people. However, 164 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.960 it is on Fox, and that's just one of those stations that like people 165 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:16.879 leave on because it's it's a national network. So I'm curious if there'll be 166 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.279 some nerves for these guys. This may be a dumb question, but is 167 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.200 there betting for this? Can you bet on the tvt That's a great question. 168 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:24.279 I don't know. I haven't looked at it. I'm going to be 169 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.919 really tough to predict spreads. Part of me, part of me, feels 170 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.879 like I bet on it last year, But maybe I'm just dreaming that. 171 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.840 But yeah, that that'll make it even more fun, like player props and 172 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:37.480 stuff that could be. That could be a lot of fun. Hey, 173 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:43.279 I want to quickly give a shout out to the Indiana team John because I 174 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.919 didn't realize it. They put together a really good group, they did, 175 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:52.240 and they also have a lot of youth. So Yogi Ferrell, which I 176 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:54.240 wouldn't consider him on the place six. Yeah, but I mean, you 177 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:58.039 know, he's still a good player. Miller Cop played what just a couple 178 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.399 of years ago ago. Devonte Green he's the only name I don't recognize. 179 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.240 He's from the Archie Miller era. Okay, don't recognize him at all. 180 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.840 And then Troy Williams. That's a guy who played during that Tom Crean era 181 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.799 when they had some good teams UK in the round of thirty two with him, 182 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:11.360 Jordan Holes, he was a part of that twenty thirteen team that had 183 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:16.159 a number one seed. Jowan Morgan was drafted and played in the NBA briefly. 184 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:20.080 Race Thompson played recently. Is he on last year's team? Yes or 185 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.039 not? Not this past season, but before Oka, same with Miller Cop 186 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:26.080 and then no of von Lee. He played in the league for a while 187 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:31.399 and most recently was playing in in China and one of the more forgotten players 188 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.960 from recent history. That he was a big get for Tom Crean. But 189 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:39.720 that team was terrible. Yeah, they were really bad. Julian Gamble. 190 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:41.759 Don't know that name, do you? He's not an Okay, yeah, 191 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.840 because just like Louisville, there's guys that aren't. Like Christian Doolittle, I 192 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:46.879 don't is that a name? Yeah, I think he might. There's a 193 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.639 couple. There's a guy from Miami on there. Okay, there's a guy 194 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:54.879 from I think Hornsberry is a shooter who played at LSU. Okay, and 195 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.759 I feel like he's on the older side, but if he can shoot it 196 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:01.759 like he did in college, he'll be a good asset. So it is 197 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.039 fun to look at these teams. And I mean again, like the Yukon 198 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:11.879 team, Ryan Boatwright, DeAndre Daniels, Jeff Adrian, Jerome Dyson, Rodney 199 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:16.759 Purvis, Elijah tom I mean, these are like this is nostalgic in a 200 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:18.240 different way because like it's not as if I'm thinking, oh my god, 201 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.240 I can't wait to watch, you know, the Kansas team that has Thomas 202 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:26.759 Robinson and Silvio Desusa, Frank Mason, Kevin Young, Billy Preston, Brandon 203 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:31.240 Rush, Ben Macklamore, Like, you know, I don't care about those 204 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.759 guys, but you know, it is wild to think that you're watching a 205 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:37.720 bunch of guys you're at least familiar with that you know, you watched play 206 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.200 in hell, your team played against them. I'm sure. So, I 207 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:45.279 mean, Duke has a team, I think, or you know, never 208 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:46.840 mind, Duke, Duke's got a couple of guys. There's a lot of 209 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:52.440 teams out there that aren't that aren't made up of you know, ninety percent 210 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.840 one school and honestly, those are usually the teams that are pretty good. 211 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.240 You know, they usually end up having a lot of success because sometimes you 212 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.440 can you can just go with a bunch of dudes that you played with, 213 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:05.639 but like you could know that, hey, we could probably go get dudes 214 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.080 who nobody's ever heard of that just put up you know, twenty a game 215 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:11.480 in Europe last year. But you know, there's a lot that goes into 216 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:16.279 this, and that's getting you're more likely to get sponsors, corporate sponsors locally 217 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.320 to support you if it's mostly made up of guys they're familiar with, if 218 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:24.120 they watched play. It's just kind of how it works, and you need 219 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.399 that because if not, you know, you won't be able to have a 220 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:30.600 team because again, it's not just like these guys aren't getting paid to, 221 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.279 you know, go out there and play, you know, a certain amount 222 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.639 of minutes. They're they're but they're they're being taken care of to be a 223 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:39.480 part of set event, if that makes sense. And I think there are 224 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.679 some like gms and investors that do in fact help fund it. Like if 225 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:48.039 you don't have put it this way, if you don't have the corporate sponsors 226 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:50.720 that u L has. I'm pretty sure Planet Fitness is one for their TVT 227 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.960 team. There's also a waste I think it's called Wasteology that is a sponsor 228 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.600 once again this year for the second time. So like if you're a team 229 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:01.960 that doesn't have that, you probably have somebody that it invested money to fund 230 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.519 hotels and you know, meals for these guys while they are there and while 231 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:09.279 they're training to get ready for the games. And I'd say those investors probably 232 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.360 have a little bit of a buy in as well that where if they end 233 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:13.919 up winning, you get not only a return of what you paid, but 234 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.960 get you get a little piece of the pie as well. So I'm fascinated 235 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.200 by it. I've always felt like it was something that was more of like 236 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.440 a niche like basketball. I mean, I sometimes will you know, on 237 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.120 NBA TV, they'll occasionally they'll occasionally show games from professional leagues overseas, and 238 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.480 I'll watch that just because I like basketball and it's always cool to see dudes. 239 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:37.240 So you forgot about that are still playing at a high level overseas. 240 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:39.799 So again that's more of a niche thing. But I think now that we 241 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.559 have Louisville with a team for the second year, Kentucky has a team, 242 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.360 Like I've said it since last year, this should be our thing. Like 243 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:50.639 Louisville and Kentucky every year could have really good teams based off the dudes who 244 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.279 play there, and they should have crowds that really nobody else can match, 245 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:58.080 because we would care about this more than most. So again that's why I've 246 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:03.399 been throughout the last couple weeks and especially today just encouraging people to go go 247 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:07.279 buy tickets. I mean, if you can only make it to one game, 248 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:09.639 make it to the first game, because you know, I'd see that's 249 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:13.080 the best chance to get a huge crowd Saturday at one o'clock in the afternoon, 250 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.840 and no better way to get it started and to really establish some momentum 251 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:20.000 by knowing that you you know, hopefully you get win. Of course the 252 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.000 Spellerman team, they may have something to say about it. But to know 253 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.159 that you open the doors of Freedom Hall for the first day of your playing 254 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:28.480 and you broke the record, I mean that would be I mean, there's 255 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:30.480 no better way to start it, of course, unless you know you lose, 256 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.399 which hopefully that hopefully that doesn't happen. Real quick, last thing on 257 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:37.440 the tv TA and then we'll move on. They are having an autograph session 258 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.559 tomorrow from six to seven thirty, and that'll be at the popular level Planet 259 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:46.559 Fitness that's next to Kroger. So from six to seven thirty, the guys 260 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:48.200 will be there signing autographs. So you know, if you got a little 261 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:54.000 one who ended up idolizing Russ and Peyton and Shane and those guys, and 262 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.799 you know, maybe even Nan who or even Rees Gaines who's coaching this team, 263 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:02.000 you know you can you can go out and get an autograph. And 264 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:07.519 I'm sure there are countless pieces of memorabilia across the city of Louislle that are 265 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:11.480 in basements of Louisville fans, pictures, plaques, you know, maybe a 266 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.679 jersey, just something that you purchased to kind of remind you every time you 267 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:18.399 walk in your man cave that Louisville won a national championship in twenty thirteen, 268 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.440 will go get some of that stuff signed? I mean, I think that 269 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:25.919 would mean that would I don't mean that would clearly make it a little more 270 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.960 valuable, which, by the way, that reminds me. I do want 271 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.759 to get to something about the price of autographs and pictures with athletes, because 272 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.600 Darren Rivell, although he is a dork, he does put out some informative 273 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.759 stuff at times that I think is interesting. So I want to get to 274 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:42.440 that later. I would have never thought of it, but telling you guys 275 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.000 to go get autographs reminded me of something he posted earlier that I want to 276 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.120 get to before we run out of time. But anyways, let's quickly get 277 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:52.960 back to Let's get back to the the hot seat rankings we talked about earlier. 278 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.080 So there's no coach in this area that is on the hot seat or 279 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:59.639 even close to it. We talked about that in the four o'clock hour. 280 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.639 Jeff, I mean, I can't even see a scenario where he'd ever be 281 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:04.119 on the hot seat. Same thing with Mark Stoops. More so, just 282 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:07.680 because even if they do struggle even if they do, you know, just 283 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:12.200 kind of plateau, and you know, their best days with Stoops are in 284 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:15.720 the rear view, and now that Texas and Oklahoma are in the league, 285 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:19.319 they just become a consistent six and six team. I think Kentucky fans would 286 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:25.440 understandably be frustrated, and they would want to aim higher. They would have 287 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:29.000 proof that they, you know, have been better than that. But the 288 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:33.640 actual like the actual heat to be there to fire Mark Stoops is just something 289 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:36.160 that is that as of now I can't see happening. I think he'll be 290 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.160 the coach there until he doesn't want to be the coach there anymore. And 291 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:44.279 honestly, given where Kentucky was before he got there, it's probably justified. 292 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.000 So we didn't bring up the hot seat stuff because of you know, anything 293 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:52.880 locally. However, it just reminded me that this this new world. I 294 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.160 mean, we already are in a new world with nil and the portal being 295 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:00.799 in place for at least the last few years, but it's going to be 296 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:07.000 an even different mess whenever you have the colleges these having to pay the players 297 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:10.119 directly, I mean, and by the way, that's not going to as 298 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:12.559 we've discussed. That's not going to eliminate nil. But if you are, 299 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.759 you know, I mean, if you want to compete and you want to 300 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:19.160 be good in sports at the high level of college athletics, you will You're 301 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:23.440 going to need to make sure you have twenty million to twenty two million dollars 302 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:27.000 available for you to pay student athletes. I mean, that's what you're going 303 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:29.960 to have to do, and that's not easy to do. Nobody just has 304 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.400 that sitting around. I think the only school that has come out and acted 305 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:36.000 like it's going to be no problem is Ohio State. But everybody else they 306 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.759 got to find ways to cut costs. They got to find new revenue streams, 307 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:41.720 Like it is Superman. It's always important when it comes to finances. 308 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:48.119 But you know, there's clearly going to be some sacrifices made, and I 309 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:52.400 think one of those sacrifices is allowing coaches to ride out their contract even if 310 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.359 you know they stink, and you know, maybe you'll have a little bit 311 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:00.359 more belief in the fact that they could have success because you know, you 312 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:06.240 know your school can't pay an eight million dollar buyout. I also think it'll 313 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:08.960 change moving forward, like I think these coaches will not get the same deals 314 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:15.519 they used to get because you know, it's just reckless. However, since 315 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:21.400 then, there's been at least two Power five coaches that got unnecessary extensions and 316 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:26.200 raises with for no reason. And again I thought, because you and here's 317 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:30.920 here's what blows my mind. Guys have been getting raises and extensions for no 318 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:36.039 real reason forever. Like that's not new to college athletics at all. But 319 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:40.319 I felt like, you know, that would that would come to an end 320 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:44.920 now that you know you're going to really be scrambling for money, and it 321 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:49.039 just you know it, Like I think Oklahoma's coach who did have a better 322 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.440 year last year than his first year, Brett Vennables, he's been there two 323 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:55.119 three years. I think this is going to be his third year. But 324 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:56.319 like he got an extension. I believe it was not that long ago. 325 00:19:56.359 --> 00:20:00.079 And again it's just like not you know, like why, like who's gonna 326 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:04.720 go? Like the way these agents can basically put a ski mask on and 327 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:11.240 go rob athletic directors is a talent. It's a gift, because who's going 328 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.880 to hire the coach? Like, like why do you have to get it 329 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:17.720 just because you just because your client, the coach, wants more money. 330 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.640 Like I'd love to be a fly on the wall and some of these negotiations 331 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:25.279 because I'm sure they want to put fear in you if you are, if 332 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:27.519 you're an athletic director right, the agent's going to tell you, oh, 333 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:32.039 you better, you better make it right, or all the recruits are gonna 334 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:36.720 not commit because they because they they don't believe that the coach is going to 335 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:40.440 stick around. Why would they not believe that? I mean, just because 336 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:41.839 they're not getting a new extension doesn't mean that they're going to be up and 337 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.880 gone, especially if they're successful, and who's going to like For like Scott 338 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:52.200 Saderfield when he left Louisville, Josh Josh Heard clearly played a game of chess 339 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:56.480 effectively with him because Sat wanted an extension, he wanted more money, He 340 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.839 wanted more money for his coaching staff, and it just wasn't warranted. He 341 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:03.880 wasn't gonna get fired, he wasn't even on the hot seat. But they 342 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.480 weren't going to give. They still wanted to see more, and I say 343 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:10.920 they, I guess I mean Josh Hurd, he wanted to see more before 344 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:15.319 he reinvested in Sat and kept him around long term, and you know, 345 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:17.559 would be on the like if you give him, if you give him an 346 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:19.480 extension after that season, and he comes out and wins three games the next 347 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:22.920 year, two games the next you still, I mean, you would have 348 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.200 been wrong in your investment and you would have been on the hook for even 349 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:30.160 more money. I'm sure. So Sat was told no, and his agent 350 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:37.680 was effective in going and you know, completely ransacking Cincinnati and convincing Cincinnati that 351 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.039 this is the guy they needed to hire. And I'll never forget I did 352 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.319 like three radio hits that day. One of the Cincinnati shows played my reaction 353 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:49.440 to Sadderfield leaving on the show because it was like I was like an out 354 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:53.480 of body experience. I couldn't believe it happened. So, you know, 355 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:59.079 like nobody that I talked to could actually come up with any reason as to 356 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:00.200 why he made sin. The only thing he brought up, the only thing 357 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:04.960 they brought up was the fact that he has taken another school, like they 358 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:11.039 were transitioning to the Big twelve, and he helped transition app State to FBS 359 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:15.079 from FCS. Like that's other than that is resume Louisville wasn't good. It 360 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:19.720 wasn't good at all. So I actually saw this list because of a Cincinnati 361 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:23.480 Beat writer that I that I that I follow, had penned an article basically 362 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:29.119 acting like, well, you know what, maybe Sadderfield will work out long 363 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:33.200 term because you know, Fickle left him a bad roster that he inherited. 364 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:36.359 And then they just mentioned that if they fire him after the next year, 365 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:37.359 if he goes three to nine again or four and eight and they want to 366 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:40.759 get rid of him, it's eight million dollars. If they want to do 367 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:42.880 it the next year, it's four million dollars. And you just can't make 368 00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:48.119 that kind of expense. You can't justify that kind of expense when you have, 369 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.279 you know, twenty two million dollars you got to come up with annually 370 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:57.079 that you didn't have to produce. I see no scenario. Sadderfield is like 371 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:02.319 a successful coach at Cincinnati to where like they're competitive at the top of the 372 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.039 Big twelve. Maybe I'm wrong, All right, quick break, We'll come 373 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:07.519 back on the other side. Keep this thing rolling along. Believe it or 374 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:10.200 not. One of the wildest stories in sports right now is probably something you've 375 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.880 not heard anything about, but it's a wild situation going on with the Arena 376 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.240 Football League, which, yes, if you didn't know it still exists, 377 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:19.400 at least you know for now it does. You may not know it, 378 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:26.279 but the Arena Football League is still around. They had a hiatus, I 379 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.960 believe after a great I mean, they used to be relatively popular. I 380 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.119 mean, Louisville had a team, the Louisville Fire AF two that was like 381 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.640 the minor league of the AFL if you remember, Jeff Brown was their coach, 382 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:42.880 which was kind of wild, but so many years ago. But yeah, 383 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:45.240 they had their developmental league from two thousand and two thousand and nine, 384 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.599 which is when, of course, the louis of Fire played at Freedom Hall. 385 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:51.559 So I don't really know when it became just, you know, a 386 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:56.640 sport that nobody really talked about. But they're alive as of right now. 387 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.319 But they've got an unbelievable situation currently going on with the championship game, the 388 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.400 Arena Bowl, which again is their super Bowl. So so the Arena Bawl 389 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:07.519 is slated for Friday night at the Mall, which is next to Yeah, 390 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:11.119 by the way, I love an arena football game at a mall is just 391 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:17.119 so fitting. But it's next to MetLife Stadium, and the AFL CEO was 392 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:22.240 voted out today and he's barred from re entering the United States, and now 393 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:29.400 the mall is refusing to host their championship game. So Chris Chetty is the 394 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:36.559 former CEO chairman of the Arena Football League and he was voted out unanimously by 395 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:42.400 the eight team owners earlier today due to financial fraud allegations. Apparently he stole 396 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:48.039 over one hundred thousand dollars from the league. Actually he says here he stole 397 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:52.519 over one hundred thousand dollars from an employee's credit card, leading the AFL officials 398 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.440 to step in and address the situation. And now it's left him in a 399 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.519 tough spot. So it's not just the the fact that he stole money from 400 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:07.079 an employee's credit card. I guess he's also mismanaged funds as the CEO, 401 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:14.400 and they're now in debt to American Dream Entertainment retail Center, which I guess 402 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:17.119 is what that mall is. So they're not gonna host it anymore of their 403 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:18.599 own money, and they don't and they don't have it, so right now 404 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:23.559 they're scrambling to try to get another another spot to play this championship game, 405 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:32.759 the Arena Bowl. Possible locations are apparently Albany, New York, or Billings, 406 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:37.400 Montana, or Nashville, but you know, the dates aren't locked in, 407 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:41.680 so like, they may play the game on Friday in Albany, they 408 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.039 may play it in Billings down the line, or they may play it next 409 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.680 next Saturday in Nashville if they can't. So it's been a tumultuous situation for 410 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.720 the AFL for quite some time, which is probably why you haven't heard much 411 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.319 about it, but it is still it does still exist. You know, 412 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:00.839 this level is the level of professional arena football that you can, at least 413 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.960 you used to be able to make a decent living. You're not making, 414 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:04.759 you know, millions of dollars like the guys in the NFL are, But 415 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:08.759 I mean it used to be a good secondary option for guys, you know, 416 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:14.200 at the actual AFL level, not the af two. And you know, 417 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:18.480 now I don't know if that's the case, but yeah, they've had 418 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.480 a lot of different unstable ownership, not only within the league but within the 419 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:27.400 teams that are in the league. And now is they're about to wrap up 420 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.680 a season, it may not actually end up happening and they may not exist 421 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:37.279 anymore. So yeah, so from they reorganized in twenty eighteen nineteen, it 422 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:42.200 was before the pandemic because they filed a second bankruptcy, and they relaunched in 423 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:48.200 twenty twenty three, which is this is now their second season, and yeah, 424 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:55.640 they're struggling. Which one thing I've never really understood is is why. 425 00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.400 And I'm not a businessman. I've never owned a business, and you know, 426 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:04.319 I'm not somebody that knows the true potential in certain industries. But I 427 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:15.400 feel like every semi pro sport in America, like arena football, even like 428 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:19.359 a the USL here in Louisville, Yeah, soccer, Yeah, but I 429 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.720 mean but they I mean they make money. I mean they're good, right, 430 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.960 Like I don't I don't know the financial situation you're talking about Louisville City. 431 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:29.440 Yeah, they're in the second tier. Yeah, but that to me, 432 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.400 so that's that's still like is that semi pro? Like I'm being honest, 433 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:34.599 like, I know it's not. I mean, I think that is 434 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:38.880 truly professional. It's just not the professional. It's not the highest one. 435 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:41.720 That's how most people look at like to me, to me, if you 436 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:47.039 like there was a Louisville team that was an arena team that somehow got a 437 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.839 lease with the Young Center right after COVID, So I can't think of what 438 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.279 they called it. And they they lasted like two three games and folded and 439 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.440 know what, everybody money like it was a complete but and and I'm thinking 440 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:02.200 to myself like, like I could have told you that that was gonna happen, 441 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.079 Like there's just not enough money to be made. It's it's it's a 442 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.039 it. You're not gonna make money, you're gonna lose money, and eventually 443 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.880 it's going to go under. And there's so many examples of it. I 444 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.359 just I don't know. Maybe some people have a different plan in mind to 445 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.000 where they think they could make it work. But anytime I hear of a 446 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:22.119 of a semi pro soccer, semi pro football, which is usually arena football, 447 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.039 or even basketball, because there are like a Koya gal I love Akoi, 448 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.599 but he he launched a Kentucky I think it was the Distillers team, 449 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.279 which was a semi pro basketball team. They had tryouts, they were in 450 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.920 some kind of league, and you know, I don't know if they're still 451 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.440 around. I don't think they are. But last I heard they you know, 452 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:42.039 they they owed a lot of people money because again they're not they're not 453 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:48.359 making any money. Yeah, so maybe someday somebody will be able to, 454 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:52.000 uh, you know, make it successful. But I think there's been enough 455 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.599 failed situations. I'm not just talking about anything a little, but just all 456 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.960 over the place to where like it's just hard to If you're doing it for 457 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.000 fun, that's one thing. But if you've got you know, people, 458 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.000 you owe money too, because they're even if you're not playing your if you're 459 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.759 not paying your players much money at all, but you'd be you got to 460 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.000 you got to pay for a place to play, You got to play league 461 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.599 league fees, as far as to be in whatever league you're in. Like, 462 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.519 it's just it's really really hard to make that a profitable thing, and 463 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.480 more often than not it ends up in these things folding and owing people money 464 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.519 and it and it's a big loss whoever invested to try to, you know, 465 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:32.240 to try to make it happen. All right, Uh, this text 466 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:33.160 is funny. It came in earlier in the show. We were talking about 467 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:40.599 the NCAA UH college football game that has been easily one of the biggest things 468 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:41.880 going right. I mean, I don't even know how to describe it because 469 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.839 it's weird. It's is it fair to call it a sports story, like 470 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.799 it's a story, it's a sports story. Yeah, but it but it's 471 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.599 just not real, you know what I mean? Yeah, but it pertains 472 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.799 to sports, and it's kind of become a phenomenon, at least for the 473 00:29:55.880 --> 00:30:00.319 last week. Yeah. But this person texted in earlier and said that he 474 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.119 was playing last night when he got off of work, and he ended up 475 00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.240 with a bummer of a first season, and he missed a field goal that 476 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.200 would have that would have had him going to a bowl game. And he 477 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:11.920 ended up, you know, going eating dinner with his wife and he was 478 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.000 sad, and she asked what was wrong, and he told her that it 479 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.200 was because you know, he's had a rough season, and he said before 480 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.240 she could say anything, I quickly realized I need to not take it so 481 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.920 personal that it's not real. And with how realistic this game apparently is, 482 00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:27.640 like I think it can be hard at times to not take it serious and 483 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:32.359 personal because you know, there's so many components to this that like it is 484 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.480 real. I need to find a friend who has it and just play a 485 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.160 game and see how how it feels compared to how it used to be. 486 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.759 So just playing a regular game, like if you do. Because when I 487 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.599 play video games, it wasn't all about let's go start a dynasty like it 488 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.640 was like, Hey, I'm gonna pick this team and I'm gonna pick that 489 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.400 team as the opponent, and I'm gonna knock a game out before I go 490 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.440 to school or when I get home from school, and that, you know, 491 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.160 I'm sure game, the actual gameplay itself, I mean, that is 492 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.119 the game. It's fun. But to me, I've heard way more about 493 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.519 everything else than that. I've heard about the you know, the Road to 494 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:10.519 Glory mode and Transfer portal, and it's more of an immersive experience, yes, 495 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.039 than just a traditional video That's That's the best way to describe it. 496 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:15.839 Couldn't have said it better. But I mean I'd like to play it. 497 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.359 I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know of a situation 498 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.480 where I ever will play it. But like I had two buddies of mine, 499 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.759 who have you know, and again I think they're just having fun with 500 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.559 me, but you know, they told me they feel better about Louisville football 501 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.440 this year because of how good the offensive weapons are in this game, and 502 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:38.079 I'm thinking, you realize that'll have no impact on what happens, Like there's 503 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.480 that gosh, and there are people who are going to look at that though, 504 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.880 and think that that's all expectation for the time. I mean, I 505 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.799 mean again, I don't say this to mock anybody or make fun of them, 506 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.440 but it's just it's something I can't relate to. You know. I 507 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:56.440 see people sharing highlights of Quincy Riley getting pick sixes in the video game and 508 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.400 sharing it as if like that's about to happen in in September, and look, 509 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.960 it might because he's really good. He's one of the best defensive backs 510 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.440 in the country. But it won't because of anything in the video game. 511 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.200 I'm curious if some of these players are so caught up with it that they'll 512 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.920 feel like they need to live up to these expectations. I'm sure, yeah 513 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.119 game, and then they won't perform as well necessarily. Oh, I mean, 514 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:19.960 I think it's good that they got it out of the way before the 515 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.720 season actually started, you know, because here's the thing, and there was 516 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.359 a coach that was quoted in the article. I referenced earlier when we were 517 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:29.960 talking to Kendrick Haskins that you know, if you're a coach, that's you 518 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.240 know, on the younger side of the of the range. I guess of 519 00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:36.160 Kyle. And by the way, a lot of like assistant coaches position coaches, 520 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:37.519 those guys, you know, they're not all young, but some of 521 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:42.839 them are you know John's age or you know, thirty. So when they 522 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.160 were growing up, just like you know everybody else in that age range, 523 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.599 they probably played this game NonStop. So they're excited about it too. But 524 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.559 one coach went on to say that, like he knows it's already been a 525 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.160 distraction, but he's glad that they haven't started you know, fall camp yet, 526 00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.000 and when they do, he's going to make it clear that, you 527 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.960 know, if you're going to play the game, don't let it, you 528 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:01.920 know, don't. I don't know, I don't have the quote in front 529 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.920 of me exactly what he said, but you know, if you are a 530 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.599 player and it is your life every day and then you do the same thing 531 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:14.839 with a video game, man, that would be where it would actually be 532 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.359 tough to like balance what's real life and what's not right. If I were 533 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.039 a coach, and obviously I'm not, so take this with a grain of 534 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:22.599 salt if you will, but I would if as soon as we get to 535 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.480 fall Camp, I would say no more game, no more video games, 536 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:30.599 no this one specifically. And I know there's no way to really truly monitor 537 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.119 that, I guess, but I would try to make it to where I 538 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:36.240 wouldn't want my team playing at least during the season because it just seems like 539 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.279 it can't benefit you. I would not at all, you know, expect 540 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:44.559 this to happen. But maybe it's more realistic than I'm giving it credit for, 541 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:49.400 because this game is just so realistic. But like, maybe you aren't 542 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.400 as worried about falling on the depth chart because you know, when you go 543 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:57.440 home and you fire up the sticks, you're an all American. Like that 544 00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.039 sounds crazy, like nobody would do that, but I don't, no, 545 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.400 man, Like video games are important to people, and this one seemingly is 546 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.519 as realistic as any game that's ever that I've ever heard of, And I 547 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:09.679 do love this. By the way, CBS Sports, thank you for sending 548 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:13.679 this to me. John. This is I can't think of his name, 549 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.320 Chris something, but he works for CBS Sports and he's He's made a lot 550 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:20.880 of funny videos over the years for CBS Sports and he is a real life 551 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:27.000 college football reporter for the CBS Sports HQ, and he is covering college football 552 00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:32.119 like he always does, but it's based off of just what's happening in video 553 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:37.000 games, and I thought it was pretty funny. We have breaking news Nebraska, 554 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:43.440 just rage quick. The Cotton Bowl quarterback Arch Manning has transferred to sam 555 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:49.840 Houston State. The dynasty continues. Akron has completed and historic ten peat. 556 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.360 Texas A and M accidentally simmed their Week three game and lost. They'll look 557 00:34:54.400 --> 00:35:00.159 to bounce back next week. Carson Beck has been benched after pressing square when 558 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:06.400 he meant to press circle. Northeast Arkansas Community College has defeated Alabama. Congratulations 559 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:10.119 to the Delta Dogs. The pursuit of Toledo head coach Mom Spaghetti four twenty 560 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:15.480 is heating up his revolutionary four verts offense has taken the nation by storm. 561 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:22.079 Acc Powerhouse UNLV and reigning SEC champion Idaho are believed to be the front runners 562 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:27.039 once again, Utah State proving why they're known as Heisman U fans are calling 563 00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:31.039 last night's Rose Bull an Instant Classic after the game ended with a user pick 564 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.960 and a broken controller. The noonkickoff has been delayed by a system update, 565 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:42.440 and you better get comfortable because that download speed is horrendous. Handsome Squidward has 566 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.639 won his third straight Heisman Trophy. Coach Prime has been bested on the recruiting 567 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:52.880 trail yet again by his arch nemesis, Coach Booger Brains McGee. Actually, 568 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:59.000 we're getting word now that Coach Booger Brains just suffered a major power outage and 569 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.880 he hadn't hit safe since last season. So forget everything. I just said, 570 00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:07.360 Do you have to save it or it's got a back up on its 571 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.280 own? I would assume, man, that I forgot you even had to 572 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:14.760 save a game, like if you get to a certain level in some game, 573 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:16.400 like you know, when I was playing Crash Bandicoot or something like if 574 00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:20.119 it was dude, it was horrendous. If you remember memory cards that you'd 575 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.840 stick it. Oh my god, I forgot about that. Friends houses, 576 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:27.960 Yeah, man, that's that's man. Just even talking about it is nostalgia 577 00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.559 for me, and I'm somebody that didn't spend as much time gaming as as 578 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.800 as a lot of the hardcore gamers out there, all right, quick break, 579 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:35.639 We'll come back on the other side. Wrap it up, stick around 580 00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:37.320 Coffee and Company. That's us. We are fueled by Thornton's right here on 581 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:42.360 Sports Talk seven to ninety. That's right. We're putting the finishing touches here 582 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.360 on a Wednesday edition of Coffee and Company. Appreciate everybody hanging out with us. 583 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:51.079 Uh. So I'm trying to run through this list again about the coaches 584 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:53.360 on the hot seat because uh and the reason that came up earlier today is 585 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.480 just because I think the hot seat it'll still be a thing. Coaches will 586 00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.920 have pressure to win. But I just think the universities, because of contracts 587 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.599 put in place before they realize they're going to be on the hook to pay 588 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:07.920 student athletes themselves, it's just going to be harder to justify making a change 589 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.239 because you know, if you know, like nobody's coming to a game, 590 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.440 like you'd have to bottom out. But a lot of coaches don't bottom out 591 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:22.039 right like they don't. They they end up going mediocre, bad, mediocre, 592 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.719 and then bad again. I guess that could be potentially bottoming out, 593 00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:27.760 but a lot of coaches get fired and it's not because they came off of 594 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.760 a two or three win season. Now that makes that is probably putting you 595 00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:37.599 in a position to where you know, it's probably putting you in a position 596 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:45.519 to where you know you need to you know. Sorry, And I'm totally 597 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.320 distracted here. I'm trying to minimize this window that it popped up here. 598 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.639 But anyways, back back to this list real quick because we don't have much 599 00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.159 time, and I wanted to mention who is on certain you know, who 600 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:58.800 is on the the the hottest of the hot seats. Uh. And let's 601 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.360 see. So if you are a five, it's Winner be Fired. And 602 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.840 if you go down this list there, I mean I think there might only 603 00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:08.519 be let's see, let me be double check here. Do you ever do 604 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.679 the uh you ever search for a character or a word within like a web 605 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.719 browser? I know what it is. I don't think I've ever done that. 606 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.360 I used to do it all the time, and uh now I can't 607 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.079 because if I if I search for something and it, you know, it 608 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.039 doesn't appear, it gives me that which it comes across the area, because 609 00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.960 I have my board on it. Anyway, Sam Pittman at Arkansas is in 610 00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.480 the Winner Be Fired and I totally believe that because again I feel like if 611 00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.719 if their offense is improving and they look decent on that side of the ball, 612 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.239 but like he wins four games, five games, I swear I think 613 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:45.679 they're gonna make Bobby Petrino the head coach because you know, he's not a 614 00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:47.800 sexy name anymore, and they could easy go. They could probably go get 615 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.079 an up and come, or they got sec money. However, Bobby's the 616 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:57.320 only guy that certain Arkansas fans have ever seen succeed. And if he's you 617 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.199 know, calling plays, I mean, I don't think that's a crazy anything 618 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.960 to happen. But again, Pittman is the only guy of the Power five 619 00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:07.199 that is in that is in that range. Actually I'm sorry, Well Neil 620 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.719 Brown was five, now he's four from last year's improvement. All right, 621 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.719 thanks for hanging out with us, even if you got to only listen for 622 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:15.480 a little while, or if you've got to listen to the entire show, 623 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.960 we appreciate you. If you missed anything, make sure you check out the 624 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.000 podcast. We're back at it tomorrow at three o'clock right here, and I 625 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:28.760 hope you are with us on Sports Talk seven ninety