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let's talk about news. The Bengals
lose a coach, they gain a

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couple of coaches, well, they
make a couple of promotions, they hire

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one coach. They're still in a
coaching deficit, and we'll talk about that

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as well, but let's get the
facts of the matter out of the way

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before we dive into analysis. Yeah, they're down. What an assistant linebackers

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coach technically would be the one that
they're down. So we'll see there.

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But yeah, three new coaches and
are three coaching changes to be clear.

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One new coach and I think this
is the surprise. Justin Rascotti pass game

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coordinator. And then Brad Kraigthorpe.
I think everybody knew he was going to

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be the quarterbacks coach and it was
just a matter of when, and so

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that's official. And then the other
surprise, and it's a surprise because we

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hadn't really talked about other potential departures. And the guy that I kind of

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thought might have a chance of this
offseason to become an offensive coordinator not necessarily

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a defensive coordinator was Troy Walters,
but it looks like he's going to stay.

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But the Bengals lose secondary coach and
also safety's coach. And why am

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I forgetting his name now? It's
my guy, Robert Livingston. It took

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me a second, but Jordan Kovacs
is replacing him in that role, what

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I think is kind of cool.
About the two promotions. Both guys entered

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with Zak in twenty nineteen. I've
been on zach staff the entire time,

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and I think Cragthorpe and Kovacs have
both grown. But you lose a guy

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in Livingston, he's been around for
nine years, help develop Jesse Bates,

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the baits Bell combo. We all
talk about how good it was. Robert

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Livingston had a big role in that, so we could talk more about the

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loss. But yeah, those are
the three moves, and I think the

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past game coordinator is probably the big
get surprised, followed by Livingston's departure.

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And then third and probably the least
surprising, is the fact that Brad craig

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Thorpe is the new quarterbacks coach.
Yeah, I'm encouraged by the fact that

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they backfilled for brag Kragthorpe's promotion to
quarterbacks coach, and we'll talk more.

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We'll talk a lot about what Justin
Roscotti is probably going to do for the

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Bengals, why the hire makes sense, what his background is. But I

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do want them still to backfill for
Jordan Kovach and it's going to be interesting

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on Kovach to see which of us
was pronouncing that name correctly. I think

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it's Kovatch. I think that's how
the CS is pronounced at the end of

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that one. So we'll find out. I will bet you let's see here,

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I'm just checking to make sure.
I'll bet you a week worth of

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door dash. We could bet a
Nissan, a brand new Nissan. I'm

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fine with that. It's a little
bitch both trying to look at me,

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trying to get Jake Lisco with names. Well, yeah, with names,

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I'm not very confident, Like maybe
you'll get five dollars on the line here,

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maybe, and I think that it's
actually Kovach. But anyway, point

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is I would like them to backfill
these coaching positions some somehow. It doesn't

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have to be the exact same position, but you see where these assistants are

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elevated and build themselves. So it's
one. It's a coaching pipeline thing for

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the Bengals where if you can continue
to develop coaches in a way that you

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are confident in their ability to take
on bigger roles in the future, that

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enables you to have some continuity going
forward and enables you to promote from within,

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as the Bengals did with Cragthorpe and
Kovach, and I think that that

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is there are some upsides there right
in Covach a former safety. I know,

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he was a linebacker's coach for the
Bengals, assistant linebacker coach for the

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Bengals, but played safety, so
has experienced that way. Cragthorpe came up

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through LSU, worked with Joe Burrow
at LSU for a year before joining Zach

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Taylor's staff. Obviously familiarity there.
Has been working as an offensive assistant for

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quite a while, has been seen
as a descending coach, I think for

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quite a while, so that one
also makes a lot of sense. And

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then losing Livingston a bit of a
surprise. Like you said, agree with

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all that. So all of this
to say, from an infrastructure perspective,

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you're losing labor when you lose Brian
Callahan. When you promote from within to

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replace. You're losing labor when you
when you lose Robert Livingston, you promote

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from within to replace. And so
I'm still hoping that they make another higher

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defensive assistant somewhere just so that the
work that Kovach was doing in his previous

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role is filled. Because you're losing
time on task for those guys. And

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it looks like you're very confident in
what you found is a pronunciation, because

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I also looked this up before I
said anything. According to Big ten Network

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it's Kovacs, so we were there's
no no ch Okay pronunciation there. Well

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that's Big ten Network. That's when
Kovacs was thriving for the Wolverines. But

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maybe it's dead wrong. I didn't
look in the Bengals pronunciation guide to see

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if it's If it's there, it
will be now regardless because he's a position

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coach and so we'll see. But
hopefully you just got a chance to ask

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him at some point. We could
also go look for the University of Michigan

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pronunciation guide from two thousand, the
media guy from twenty twelve or something.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and look can very well be I

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mean, maybe it's either way.
I don't know. Good thing we didn't

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bet either way because I could have
gotten wrong too. But the point is

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to your point and what we can
dive into past game coordinator in a minute

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and all of those things. But
I agree with you. You're a coach

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down now, and I do like
that these guys have developed. You're talking

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about a guy in Kovax that played
the game and played in the NFL for

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multiple years and then slowly works his
way up, gets here in twenty nineteen

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and works his way up and now
gets to work with safeties in the NFL

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exclusively for the first time in a
while. Now he'll work with the secondary

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too. But what a big what
a big spot for this secondary to be

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in a lot of young, I
think hungry athletic players that need to take

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a step forward. And Zach Taylor
looked at this and said, yeah,

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Jordan Kovac is the guy to get
the most out of them. So hopefully

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he can't write whether it's DJ Turner, Dax Hill, obviously Jordan Battle.

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This is a big, big off
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be a big season for those guys. One hundred percent agree there, And

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we're gonna have to talk about the
impact on those safeties because Livingston, you

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know, for the year the safety
has just had and what have you done

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for me lately kind of league.
Maybe some people are glad to see a

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change for safeties and hoping to see
some improvement with a coaching change there,

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but he did a pretty good job
with Jesse Bates and and vom Bell prior

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to the change at safety. So
we we'll have to talk about the impact

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there because you do lose some continuity. And I have a lot to say

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about Justin Roscotti. Actually, at
first I was very confused by this hire,

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and we'll talk a lot about this
a little bit later in the show.

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It was very confused, like,
why are they going and hiring an

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offensive line coach assistant offensive line coach
to be a passing game coordinator? I

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don't don't why does that make sense? Anyway, it does make sense for

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reasons that we will discuss in a
little bit on the show. But we'll

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do that next. Let's do that
next, and then we'll get to the

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safeties. Offense is more important passing. Passing wins championships, damn it.

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Roscotti makes sense for the Cincinnati Bengals,

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vary by state. James, let's
talk justin Roscotti. The more I've looked

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into the name Kovacs, I think
you're correct about it. But there's that

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Alter Carbon show on Netflix. For
the main characters named Kovaks, and I

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think they said Kovad for him.
Anyway, we're not going to talk about

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his name anymore. Let's talk Justin
Roscotti, offensive line assistant in Minnesota,

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quality control coach in Denver, where
he mostly worked with offensive line, but

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did also work with quarterbacks for a
year. But got to dig a little

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bit deeper. You go back to
his college playing days. He was a

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quarterback, was a quarterbacks coach in
college, was an offensive coordinator in high

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school. Also was an offensive coordinator
at the college level for several years,

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not for any major schools, but
for college programs. Nonetheless, also coach

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wide receiver, so as coached every
position on offense except for tight ends and

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running backs, a lot of familiarity
with a lot of different positions. Is

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an ex quarterback himself that has now
decided to specialize in offensive line play,

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which is an interesting cocktail of experience
for a guy that you're asking to come

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in and play a role as a
passing game coordinator. Agreed. I think

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one he's shown in the NFL he
can have multiple roles offensively the offensive line

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assistant coach position, of course,
but he knows passing and he comes from

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that Vikings offense, and I was
just thinking about it, like man kirk

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Cousins justin Jefferson. Kirk Cousins has
been really good the past year and a

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half before he got hurt, and
I think he could add something there.

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And to me, this hire isn't
for these people, but it should satisfy

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those that say, all right,
bring in a new set of eyes.

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Because he was a quarterback, he
has that experience. He's been in the

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league now essentially for as long as
a lot of this staff has been together.

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And Zach Taylor formed this Bengal staff
in twenty nineteen. He's been in

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the league since then, and so
it lines up in a lot of ways

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his growth and development as a coach, how he could come in and potentially

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impact things and help this staff.
And I also think that you didn't necessarily

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need another assistant quarterbacks coach and you
can go with the passing game coordinator,

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someone that's going to help with the
passing game, help improve it, push

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it forward, all of those things. I think that that's fine because you

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still have your quarterbacks coach in Dan
Pitcher on the staff, and then obviously

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Brad Craigthorpe served as the assistant last
year, and that's something that Zach has

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done now twice where it felt like, all right, well, Alex van

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Pelt, he could be one and
done. So what does he do.

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He has Dan Pitcher become the assistant
quarterbacks coach in twenty nineteen, promotes him

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in twenty twenty, and then last
year Brad Craigthorpe moves over to assistant QB's

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coach and Boom becomes the quarterbacks coach
a year later. So I do think

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that that's part of it. But
no, I like this higher and I

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think it should satisfy those that wanted
an outside perspective for sure. Well,

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and that goes back to the earlier
conversation I was mentioning as well, when

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it comes to back to keep that
pipeline going, and that's where whatever the

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position is on defense, you would
like to see. I would like to

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see another coach hired, another assistant
hired somewhere, and it could be a

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young guy like Rascotti, relatively inexperienced
in the NFL anyway, who's still working

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his way up and needs that experience. But as far as Rascotti is concerned,

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you think about the things they lost
when they lost Brian Callahan and some

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of the specific things that we know
he did for the offense, We know

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that he was largely involved with helping
to set up protections and maybe some people

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are groaning about that because they're thinking
about protection issues that the Bengals have had,

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but it was one of his responsibilities. And you think about system similarities

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between where Riscotti comes from. Kevin
O'Connell also comes from Sean McVay, of

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course, and so should be similar
terminology between KOC and Zach Taylor. I

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don't know if I don't remember which
terminalities which terminology Zach Taylor KEPP, but

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I'd imagine there's a lot of similarities
as they both came from Sean McVay.

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But you take those factors and you
think, Okay, you got a former

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quarterback who's dealing with offensive line stuff. So what's he going to do as

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a passing game coordinator? Well,
primary responsibility could be protections, could be

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that he's going to be the guy
who's going to come in and do a

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lot of the work that Brian Callahan
used to do on getting protections set every

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week. Because this is a guy
that used to coach you know, offensive

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line sets and various protection responsibilities that
would make sense to me. The other

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thing that really jumps out is think
about the system he's coming from that has

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a star receiver and Justin Jefferson got
a lot of good productivity out of Kirk

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Cousins has a very play action heavy
offense. Oh he knows, Justin.

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I see where you're going with this. Well, probably not just judging judging

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from that tone of voice, but
could give you some ideas on different ways

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to use Jamar Chase right and when
to push the buttons to used remark Chase

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in those certain ways. And not
saying that he and Justin are the same

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kind of player, but you start
to bring some of those ideas along with

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maybe some play action ideas along with
protection setting experience from a quarterback perspective,

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as the league increasingly on offense seems
to be driven by guys who have quarterback

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experience at some point, and and
that's some of the many ways that this

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hire can make sense. And another
one, and this is very unlikely,

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I would say, but if you
really wanted to spin it, maybe it's

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a future all coach candidate as well. Having worked with offensive line for so

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long in the NFL. What are
you doing? I don't think it's that

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one. Oh what do you There's
going to be so many people. Well

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that's not my point. My point
is, like your pipeline, right,

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like it's just a pipeline idea,
No, no doubt in that pipeline is

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getting Justin Jefferson in Cincinnati. That's
what that pipeline is. Maybe, now

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that's what I said, That's exactly
it came out of. I'm saying it.

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They're just playing the ground more and
more. Did you see him he

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talked about He's like, I hope
they value me enough to get me back

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on the field. So there's a
little trouble there for Justin and the Vikings.

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But to your point, I agree, and I think there will be

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some that look at the offensive line
experience over the past couple of years and

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say, oh, that's gonna help. I don't know. Maybe maybe it

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does. I think he's going to
be really focused on the passing game,

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and it will be good to bring
in another former quarterback. You lose one

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and Brian Callahan former quarterback, you
bring in another, and I do think

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you'll get some fresh perspective. At
the same time. It'll help just with

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all of the stuff you're right,
that Brian did. And that's probably what's

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going to happen, right is I
think Dan Pitcher will probably keep some of

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the things that he did as a
quarterbacks coach from a prepping borough standpoint.

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I'm sure it's not like you just
stop everything he's doing, that he's done

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and he goes to the OC role. No, it's all right, these

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are all the things that Brad can
do, and then I'll probably do these

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two or three things plus the OC
role. And then you have this passing

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game coordinator that can take some of
the stuff that Brian Callahan did or the

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other way, and take some of
the stuff that Dan Pitcher did to help

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prepare these guys. So it would
not be it's not shocking to me that

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they backfilled this. I think it
was an important position. It is interesting

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that the title is different, and
it could just mean that the title is

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different. A lot of people make
that the Frank Pollock run game coordinator stuff.

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Right, guess what Brian Callahan and
Zach Taylor, it's their offense,

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you know, and that's this year
It's going to be Joe Burrow, Zach

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Taylor and Dan Pitcher and company their
offense, so we'll see then, honestly

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might have been required to prevent the
Vikings from blocking an interview, because if

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you're talking assistant OL coach to assistant
QB coach, that's probably not a promotion.

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But if you're talking this a OEL
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that's a good point. Yeah,
it could. It could have been a

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technicality for all we know to give
him, and I'm sure there must be

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something more behind it than that.
I don't know if it's that easy to

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skirt around the promotion and blocking interview
blocking rules, but it could be something

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like that involved as well. But
either way, I think this checks a

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lot of boxes in terms of making
sense. Comes from a similar system quarterback

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with offensive line experience, I think
that's a really interesting combination, and play

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action experience, experience with the star
receiver in a passing game. All of

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these things could point to the direction
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And then in addition to that,
you are backfilling for lost labor, and

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if it's protections, if it's red
zone, if it's play action, whatever

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it is, They've now got a
guy to help spread that work around like

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you're talking about. And I think
that that is important, and I think

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the Bengals still need to do it
on the defensive the ball where they've got

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a new safeties coach. We'll talk
about the impact there. We'll talk Bengals

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dollars. Forgot one anecdote on Justin
per Scotti that I wanted to share before

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we dive into the safeties and Robert
Livingston and Jordan Kovac's covatch. However,

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we're going to land on his name
being pronounced. When Justin er Scotti was

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coaching in Denver in twenty twenty,
in the COVID year, Denver had all

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of their quarterbacks on the COVID list
and they were desperate to find quarterbacks to

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play and on their roster. Coaching
roster, Justin Roscotti and Rob Calabreeze were

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offensive quality control coaches, and Denver
went to the league and they asked,

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can we get can we get these
guys onto the roster. We allowed to

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sign these guys so that we can
have somebody who's played quarterback play and Roscotti,

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of course, playing on James Madison
in college, won the FCS championship

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back in two thousand and four,
last play football in two thousand and six

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at James Madison. The league said, no, we were deprived of seeing

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what thirty seven year old fifteen years
removed from playing football, Justin Roscotti could

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have done in that game. Unfortunately, I would have loved it. I

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would have loved it. And it
is also true he can another guy who

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could throw passes if they need to, or any tryouts or anything. But

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I remember when that took place,
and obviously you're like, are you serious

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they had to ask about a coach, but just proof that there was wild

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times, wild times. Indeed there
was a receiver that not playing quarterbacks.

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Yeah, I get who it was. I did too well. It didn't

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go well for the Broncos. No, but he I remember as well because

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he was praised for his like preparation
and just jumping in and doing it because

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somebody had to do it. Doesn't
sound like the best time. A little

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bit of pressure there, I don't
know. Funny story though, Leak said,

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No, didn't get to see it. Imagine if we had, though,

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and then the Bengals hire him a
few years later, we'll be going

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back and watching that game. That'd
be fun. Let's talk safeties, James,

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Are you concerned? Do you see
upside? What are your thoughts on

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losing Robert Livingstone? For yeah,
I think he's a good coach and he's

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it was honestly, and I don't
know this for sure. It's not like

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I talked to Robert about this,
but I'm sure he felt like at this

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stage he wasn't getting enough looks to
be an NFL defensive coordinator. The looks

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that he probably hoped to get is
become a coordinator and so go to the

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college rights to do so, and
try to show that you can call plays

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and do those things. So I
think that this was about him trying to

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prevent himself from getting trapped and labeled
as a position position coach only and been

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on the staff for nine years dating
back to twenty fifteen, was a Bengals

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scout for a few years prior to
that, and so I do think it's

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a significant loss. He helped,
He helped develop Jesse Bates, and a

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lot of people forget Jesse Bates wasn't
Jesse Bates when he came in. There

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was some development there that he had
to go through, and so you had

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a track record of a coach that
could do those things and get the most

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out of a high pick that you're
banking on. And the Bengals are in

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a similar position now with two guys. You know, Jordan battles a top

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one hundred pick, the ninety fifth
pick, and obviously Jack sailed the thirty

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first overall pick going into year three, crucial crucial year for him. I

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do think Jordan Kovax is going to
do a good job, and part of

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it is because no one knows him
than Zach Taylor, five years on staff,

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played in the league, and so
former nfler that played safety in the

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league has to coach up your young
safeties after paying his dues for multiple years

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on this staff makes a lot of
sense to me. Will it work,

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I don't know, but from the
outside looking in, it looks like it's

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a guy who has paid his dues, has slowly worked his way up,

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and now the Bengals are banking on
him to help develop some key players,

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including Dax Hill, who, like
I said, former first rounder. It's

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someone that they need to to develop
into a premium player, preferably in twenty

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twenty four starting this season. Yeah, big year, big year for the

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safeties for the Bengals, big year
for Jordan Kovas to step into this role

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and take on that responsibility. You're
committing to Kovach and it's Kovacs. One

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of us is just going to sound
really bad this episode. I love it.

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I think it's it's both are correct, depending on where the name is

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from or like how that family has
decided to pronounce it. There was a

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show Ultra Carbon on Netflix and the
main character was called Kovach and he was

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Kovach like, no doubt, no
doubt my mind was Kovatch for him smelled

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the exact same way. So never
seen it. That's uh oh, so

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the first season's fun. I'm not
just so you know the color of the

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Nissan. I'm not picky. I
don't don't worry about that, Jake.

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I will not be picky, I
probably think, but you have to pick

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one, right, You gotta no
doubt what we got to say his name,

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So yeah, sorry calling him Jordan
for the rest of the show.

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What's going to be hilarious is when
he goes on to become like one of

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the NFL's best defensive minds. And
we could come back to this episode years

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later, like, hey, remember
when we didn't know how to say his

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name. Now the whole world knows
it. Yeah, like Beli Cheek like

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in the nineties in the radio,
like radio Bill belichiek. Who's this guy?

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It would be it would have been
eighties because people knew about him by

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the nineties. Yeah. Anyway,
another interesting parallel, just something else I

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wanted to mention before we get out
of here. Livingston Robert Livingston was a

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Marvin Lewis holdover for the Bengals,
and Justin Roscotti was one of the few

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Vic Fangio holdovers in Denver when he
arrived. He stayed, I believe,

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on on Fangio's staff out in Denver, worked with Mike Munchak out there as

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well, and that's where he cut
his offensive line chops in the NFL.

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As much as he will be contributing
or not to offensive line play in Cincinnati.

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In fact, you can go to
I think there's an old video of

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him when he was with the Broncos
doing a pass set clinic kind of break

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down. It was relatively basic,
but that's out there if you want to

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hear him. The Bengals new passing
game coordinator talk about pass sets and you're

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into coaching clinic kind of stuff.
So I think that's all I got on

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these coaches. Jane's anything to add
before we get out of here, not

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really, look, I think that
it was the natural progression for Brad Craigthorpe,

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natural projection for Jordan Kovacs to beat
Kovaks and so we'll see if they

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can deliver. But not shocked at
all. Happy for Rob Livingston by the

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way. I do think it is
a step up and it's a chance for

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him to show what he can do. Hopefully he crushes it in Colorado.

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And that's not official yet as we
record this, but it will be.

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And then passing game coordinator, you
want a new blood. You got a

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fresh face in there, Bengals fan, so we'll see. But interesting moves

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in the good news is Jake.
I'm sure we'll hear from these guys maybe

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all of them, maybe not,
but most of these guys at the combine

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in a few weeks, and obviously
I'll be there. We'll get some audio

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and be able to play it here. I did remember one other thought that

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I wanted to share, which is
that they are stocking up on former players,

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former quarterbacks. There's a lot of
former players on this coaching staff,

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and for quarterbacks, Cragthorpe, co
Cragthorpe, Rascotti, Taylor, Pitcher,

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US four at least might be forgetting
one of the other position coaches there.

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And and Kovach a former safety,
Kovacs former safety now a safeties coach.

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Frank Pollock obviously played offensive played offensive
line, but a number of NFL players

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on this team as well, and
that's one reason to like Kovacs. There's

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definitely the ability. Oh Ben Uh, not Ben Casey, James Casey,

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Uh, I'm ready here. It
had to be won James Casey. I

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did that with Mike yesterday or a
couple of days ago too. I couldn't

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remember her first name, and it
was Mike James Casey, former NFL played

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end, former NF Former NFL players
tend to have an easier job connecting with

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easier time connecting with players, and
there's easier rapport there and nice to see

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the Bengals leaning into that as well. And that is all my thoughts on

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these Bengals coaches. We'll be back
next week the marches on. I don't

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care. Just throw out there.
I think they're gonna win. I think

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they're gonna win. I heard out
there for our listeners. I think the

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Niners win by three. There's some
matchups that seem to really favor them.

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So we'll see. A Monday episode
will be recorded before the super Bowl,

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just so you guys know, so
we will not react to it. We

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won't know. I don't think either
of us want to wait until after the

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game to record, so I don't
know. If I'm watching the game,

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we'll see. I'm gonna watch it. I probably will too grudgingly. Anyway.

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That's gonna do it for this episode
of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Until

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next time, thanks for listening.
Who day, have a good one,