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The writer of this story has been
dead for several years now. At one

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time, back in the early thirties, he had this story written up ready

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to send away. Something happened and
the manuscript was put into a box and

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forgotten. The story should be listed
among the classics, for it occurred before

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anything was known about Bigfoot, before
anyone knew anything about these things. Anyone

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except the natives, that is,
and they have known all along, but

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no one listened until the twenty first
century. Thomas Bay, Alaska nineteen hundred

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Ring of nineteen hundred and found four
men batching together in a shack at Wrangell,

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Alaska. All four were broke,
as is usual with prospectors. As

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luck would have it, I was
one of the four for reasons which will

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be quite obvious. I will just
call the other three men, John Charlie

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and Fred Charlie came into the shack
one night in April. He was all

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excited and he said, fellas,
I've been on the trail of an Indian

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for the past month, trying to
get him to tell me where he picked

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up a piece of free gold quartz
that he keeps in his camp. I

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never said anything about it before because
I wanted to get the story from him

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first, and today he spilled the
beans. He told me to go up

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to Thomas Bay and camp on the
Patterson River on the right side, then

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to travel upriver for about eight miles, and then turned to the high mountains,

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and after traveling about a mile and
a half, I would find a

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lake shaped like a half moon.
He said, there's plenty of stone like

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this where I found this one.
Thomas Bay is known by the Native Americans

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in Alaska as the Bay of Death. About one hundred and fifty years ago,

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a slide down one of the mountains
wiped out a village, killing over

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five hundred of the inhabitants. Of
course, a prospector is ready to stampede

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on a whisper of gold anywhere,
and we were no exceptions to the rule.

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We all talked the matter over,
and finally it was decided that we

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would run our races for the outfit
and send Charlie to look the prospect over.

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While he was gone, John Fred
and myself would hustle up work somewhere

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for another grub stake and to pay
the old one off. Around the first

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of May, Charlie loaded his outfit
into his canoe. Having favorable weather,

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he left Wrangle for Thomas Bay,
which lies northwesterly about fifty miles. He

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had three months worth of supplies,
but was to come back at any time

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sooner if he found anything. But
if he didn't show up at that time,

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we were to put out and search
for him. John and Fred took

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a contract to get out wood,
and I got a job at the Wrangle

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sawmill. Things went along until the
first part of June, when on a

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Sunday in the late afternoon, we
all being at home, and in walked

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Charlie without a coat or hat,
and looking as if he had been through

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hell. He didn't give us any
greeting whatsoever. He just heaved a piece

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of quartz over into a corner of
the room, and he said, get

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me something to eat. I'm done
for the day and I want some rest.

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The fellow looked at and after he
had eaten, he turned in without

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telling us a thing about his trip. We picked up the piece of quartz,

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and boy, it sure was a
pretty thing to look at for our

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prospector. It was shot through with
gold specks, just like a badly freckled

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faced kid. Were we excited?
I'll say we were just before dark.

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We walked down to the beach to
help Charlie bring his outfit in, as

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he had come up to the shack
with only that piece of quartz in his

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hand, but there wasn't a thing
in his canoe except his oars. There

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was not much sleep for us that
night, but Charlie never stopped sawing wood.

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We had to work hard to get
Charlie up for breakfast the next morning,

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but when he did roll out,
he just ate. He borrowed a

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coat and a hat, and he
left the house without saying a word or

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even answering one question out of the
men put to him by us, all

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of us being excited and feeling ourselves
worth a fortune. We didn't go to

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work that day, but we sat
around the shack and passed that blame piece

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of rock back and forth to each
other while we talked and waited for Charlie

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to come back and make his report. Believe me, we were anxious to

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hear it. Along. In the
afternoon he came in and he said,

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fellas, the Ss Drigo will be
in on her way south early tomorrow morning.

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Can you give me enough money for
my ticket to Seattle? I'm through

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with Alaska and I never want to
see it again. I'll tell you about

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my trip to Thomas Bay and where
I found that quartz, but my advice

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to you is to forget about it. It will never do you any good

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and it will only cause you a
lot of mental and physical pain. If

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we were not partners, I would
never open my mouth about this trip or

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what I found. But if you
promise never to mention my name in connection

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with what I'm about to tell you, or mention the name of Thomas Bay

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to me ever again, I'll give
you the straight up of my experience up

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there. Judge for yourself as to
my saneness, because this is the most

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astounding thing you will ever hear,
and as far as I'm concerned, it

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is beyond me to reason it out. Don't ask any questions to prolong my

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story any longer than it takes me
to tell it, as I want to

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leave Alaska and forget it. If
I can, I will try to make

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the one telling plane enough, and
Charlie proceeded to tell us his story.

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The first night after leaving Wrangell found
me an ideal cove. The next night,

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I reached Muddy River in time to
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hit Ruth Island in Thomas Bay.
I spent the next day looking up the

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Patterson River for a suitable place to
camp, which I found a quarter mile

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up from the tidewater on the right
hand side looking up the river. I

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broke camp on Ruth Island the next
day and I moved up to a place

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I picked out the day before.
I put up my tent, packed up

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my outfit, and left the canoe
on the river bank. The next day

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I spent cooking beans, cutting wood, and making things comfortable for a long

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stay, and then it started raining. I wanted to get things fixed up

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so I could keep dry. It
started to rain that night and kept raining

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for days. I lost track of
time as each day was just like the

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one before. I had nothing to
read, I was all alone. I

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couldn't do anything without getting soaked,
and the roar of the river and the

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whin through the timber just about drove
me crazy, so I put in most

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of my time sleeping. Finally the
weather broke and I got out. I

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spent several days in trying to find
the old Indians half moon late, but

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I couldn't get it spotted. I
did find about two miles from camp up

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the river, and about a mile
from it a lake shape like the letter

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S on the creek coming out from
the lower end. I panned some pretty

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good colors, but as I figured, not enough to get excited about yet

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an indication of gold in the country. There doesn't seem to be any life

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in there at all. You might
spend all day in the timber without seeing

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even a squirrel. I was getting
sort of tired of beans, rice and

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bacon, so I made up my
mind that I would go over to a

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ridge about eight miles east of s
Lake and get a few grouse. I

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left the next morning, which was
a fine sunny day. I took only

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the rifle with me, and when
I came to the ridge, sure enough

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there were a few grouse hooting.
I shot too, and had gotten them

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when I bagged another one, which
fell down the ridge about one hundred yards

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before it got hung up. While
on my way down to pick it up,

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I found the piece of quartz.
Up until that time, I had

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paid very little attention to what the
country I was in looked like, as

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it was so heavily timbered and brushy. The formation didn't show up, and

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I had no tools with me to
uncover it. The top of an old

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snag had broken off and fallen,
scraping the top moss and loose dirt for

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a space of about eight feet wide
and eighteen to twenty feet long, uncovering

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this quartz ledge, which is where
I found this piece. The ledge was

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worked smooth by a glacier. At
one time. I couldn't find anything to

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break a piece off with, so
I used the butt of my gun to

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get that piece, and so doing
I broke the stock of my gun,

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thus ruining it for further use.
This didn't worry me any, as I

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knew there was not any game in
this country larger than a grouse, and

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there were damn few of them.
My first thought was of the richness of

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the quartz, and a you fellas, and getting back to town to round

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you all up so we could get
busy on the clean. After resting a

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minute and enjoying the feeling of knowing
I had made a rich find, I

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covered the ledge up again with moss, limbs and a rotten chunk. Finishing

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that job, I thought I would
climb the ridge directly over the ledge and

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get my landmarks so I could come
back to it again, or tell you

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where it was if anything should happen
to me. This I did, climbing

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straight up over the ledge on the
ridge until I reached the top, which

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was about six hundred feet above where
I had found the ledge. I looked

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down below me and picked out a
big tree with a bushy top taller than

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the rest, about fifty feet to
the right of the ledge. Looking over

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the top of this tree, from
where I stood, I could see out

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on Frederick's Sound the point of Vanderputt
Spit, and turning a little to the

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left, I could see Sukhoy Island
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Satisfied with that, I turned half
around to get a backsighte on some mountain

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peaks, and laying below me on
the other side of the ridge from the

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ledge was the half Moon Lake the
Indian had told me about. Right there,

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Fellows is when I got the scare
of my life, and I hope

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to God I never see or go
through the likes of it again. Swarming

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up the ridge towards me from the
lake were the most hideous creatures. I

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couldn't call them anything but devils,
because they were neither men nor monkeys,

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yet they looked like both. They
were entirely sexless, their bodies covered with

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long, coarse hair except where the
scabs and running swords had replaced it.

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Each one seemed to be reaching out
for me and striving to be the first

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to get me. The air was
full of their cries, and the stench

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from their sores and bodies made me
faint. I forgot my broken gun,

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and I tried to use it on
the first ones, and then I threw

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it at them and turned and I
ran. God, how did I run?

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I could feel their hot breath on
my back, their long clawlike fingers

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scraped my back. The smell from
their steaming, stinking bodies was making me

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sick, while the noises they made, yelling and screaming and breathing, drove

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me mad. All the reason left
me. And how I reached the canoe,

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or how I hung on to that
piece of quartz, is a mystery

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to me. The rest of that
episode is a blank to me. When

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I came to it was night,
and I was lying in the bottom of

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my canoe, drifting between Thomas Bay
and Sukhoy Island, cold, hungry and

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crazy for a drink of water,
but only to satisfy the latter urge I

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started for Wrangele and here I am. You no doubt think that I'm either

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crazy or lying. All I can
say is there is the quartz. Never

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let me hear the name of Thomas
Bay again, and for God's sake,

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help me get away tomorrow on that
boat. And so passed out Charlie from

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our lives. We put his story
down as fantasy caused by loneliness or morbid

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thoughts. But the question that has
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the story it is true? Hey
y'all, how's it going? This is

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Cam Buckner with the Dixie Cryptid Podcast. I know over the Thanksgiving holiday people

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are going to be traveling, people
are going to be laying around on their

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couch after eating a bunch of turkey. And for those of you who really

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don't care about all the football games
and stuff, I just thought I'd put

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together a really long podcast, a
best of podcasts with some of the best

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stories I've ever done, for you
guys to enjoy. And the last thing

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I want to say is during this
Thanksgiving season, I'm thankful that you all

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have been so good to be I
really appreciate you. This podcast is going

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to go on. I know I'm
busy right now and I'm not able to

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do as many, but I'm thankful
that over the last five years, you

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guys have been so nice to me, and I appreciate you. And that's

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all I wanted to say. I
don't know how long this podcast is going

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to be. I hope you enjoy
it all. Right, here we go.

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The title is A Ghost in my
Grandparent's Kitchen, and here's what the

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woman writes. It was a summer
of two thousand and one when my family

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moved into my grandparents' house, nestled
in the heart of North Georgia's Blue Ridge

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Mountains, after retiring from her coastguard
career. My mom wanted to help my

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grandmother care for her grandfather, who
was in the final throes of Parkinson's disease.

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I was eleven years old at the
time, and my nine year old

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sister, Nicki and I spent our
idle summer mornings pushing one another in the

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tire swing swung up from the weeping
willow tree in my grandparents' front yard.

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In the afternoons, we raced Granny's
golf cart around our grandparents' property until our

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mother called us inside for dinner.
It was an idyllic and carefree existence.

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My sister and I shared a bedroom
which was positioned in the back of our

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grandparents' ranch style home. Our room
connected to the kitchen through a laundry room,

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and it was a short walk through
the kitchen down the hall to our

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evening sworeway with Granny's bedroom. Our
grandmother had insomnia, so she was usually

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awake long after the rest of the
family had gone to bed. Each night

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since we moved in, Nicki and
I snuck out of our bedroom to hang

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out with Granny in her room.
She would make up funny stories and all

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three of us would life the night
away, and we loved spending our evenings

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with her. Nicki and I lay
completely still in our shared full sized bed,

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eyes closed tight and slowly exhaling and
inhaling. We were determined to convince

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our parents that we were fast asleep, and we didn't dare move until the

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crescendo of our stepfather's snores and our
mother's labored breathing reverberated through the wall adjacent

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to our bedroom. Our nightly charade
was about to commence. Sounds like they're

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finally asleep, I whispered through the
clenched teeth. Yeah, I think so,

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too, agreed Nicky. I'll crack
open the door and check if the

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coast is clear, and then we'll
go hang out with Granny. I tossed

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aside the hand made quilt we were
tucked in, and I rose out of

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bed and gingerly crept toward our bedroom
door. I pushed the door ajar,

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careful not to let the creaking hinges
give us away. The second door,

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which separated the laundry room from the
kitchen, was also closed. The absence

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of light gleaming through the crack at
the bottom was a good sign no one

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was in the kitchen. I think
we're good to go. Let's go,

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I instructed Nicky. I cracked open
the laundry room door, while my sister

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untangled herself from the quilt and tiptoed
across the room to join me. I

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took the lead as we pushed open
the kitchen door, ready to take the

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brunt of the punishment if we were
to get caught. As the two of

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us prepared to slink through the kitchen, we were stopped dead in our tracks,

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standing at the stove in our grandparents'
kitchen was an elderly woman dressed in

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a white, sleeveless nightgown. The
overhead lights were turned off, so she

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was illuminated only by the light above
the stove. Granny I called out to

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the strange woman. The old woman
wrenched her head around to look at my

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sister and I, and it was
in this moment that we realized the woman

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was transparent. I searched her face
for any trace of familiarity, but was

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startled to find an empty space where
her face should have been. My heart

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began to pound against my chest,
and I could feel the prickle of goosebumps,

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making the hair on my arms and
neck stand up. Fight or flight

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set in as I squeezed my sister's
arm and anxiously whispered run. We both

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had passed the translucent old woman and
dashed down the hall toward Grannie's room.

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The hallway seemed endless as we sped
toward her closed bedroom door. Please don't

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let her be in there, I
thought, as I threw the door open.

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I desperately wanted to believe that was
our grandmother standing in the front of

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the stove in the kitchen and maybe
we had just not recognized her. With

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the lights out, we burst through
Grannie's bedroom door, and, much to

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my dismay, there was our grandmother
laying in her bed, nestled up with

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a bowl of pretzels, reading the
latest edition of the National Inquirer. Grannie,

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there's a woman in the kitchen,
Nikki and I squawked in unison.

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She barely glanced away from her magazine
as she responded, oh, you girls

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saw her. Well, yeah,
that's miss Oglethorpe. She used to live

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here and she died in the sun
room, and then she promptly returned to

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reading her magazine while our jaws hit
the floor. You've seen her before,

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I asked in astonishment. NICKI and
I were frozen in place, unable to

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wrap our minds around what we had
just experienced our grandmother, so casually confirming

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our encounter with this ghost did little
to ease our minds. Grannie informed us

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that she had seen missus Oglethorpe a
few times in the kitchen, and had

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also spotted her relaxing on the sofa
in the sun room where she had passed

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away. The fact that we had
been unknowingly living in a haunted house did

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not sit well with my sister and
I. Neither of us were in the

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mood to hang out after our run
in with Missus Oglethorpe. We were instructed

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to put the sighting out of our
minds. NICKI and I were too shaken

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to sneak out of our room for
any more evening get togethers with Grannie after

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that night. Several decades have passed
since our unexpected run in with Missus Oglethorpe,

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and I have never been able to
put her out of my mind.

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I cannot help but wonder if she
purposely revealed herself to my sister and I

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that evening as a way of deterring
us from sneaking out of bed. Perhaps

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she knew what we were up to
and wanted to let us know that we

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were not as sneaky as we thought
we were. Whatever the reason, to

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this day, neither of us can
walk into a darkened, empty kitchen without

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slight apprehension and the haunting memory of
a faithless old woman waiting for us.

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I loved that story. That story
was so well written. I only had

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to change a couple of words that
I couldn't pronounce, but it was perfectly

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written. It was perfectly structured and
put together, and it was exciting.

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Don't you agree. Wasn't that a
great story? I wanted to share that

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with you, And thank you so
much to the writer for sending this.

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It was just a joy reading it. Thanks. Here's an email from someone

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who doesn't want their name disclosed,
but she gives it a title The Beast

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on the by You and Bigfoot by
the Highway. And here's what the woman

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writes, This is really good.
Long before Bigfoot are what is also known

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as Sasquats in the northwestern United States
in Canada, was North America's most popular

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legendary monster. My late father,
Lewis would tell of an experience he had

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with a similar creature when he was
a young boy living on Bayou Lafouche.

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I think that's how you pronounce that
in southern Louisiana. My father was ten

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years old at the time, and
his younger brother, Lloyd, was approximately

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seven. My father was born in
nineteen thirty two, so this would have

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occurred in the early nineteen forties,
a quarter of a century before the Patterson

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Gimlin film that made Bigfoot a common
phenomenon. My father would vivid recall this

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day in great detail. He said
he could remember how it was a beautiful

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sunny morning, and my grandmother had
sent him and his brother to pick snap

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beans along the levee near the bayou
for dinner. He and his brother both

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quickly gathered their buckets from off the
back porch, glad to be able to

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get away from home and enjoy a
beautiful sunny morning away from their mother's watchful

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eye. While they picked snap beans
along the rows of the levee, they

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began to smell a horrible stench.
My father remembered it to be similar to

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the smell of rotten eggs, only
worse. My father and uncle Lloyd decided

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that the horrible smell was more than
likely the decaying remains of an animal,

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Because unpleasant odors were commonplace on the
farm. This did not initially set off

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any alarms of what would soon become
one of the most terrifying moments of their

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young lives. They knew their mother
wanted them to fill their buckets with snap

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beans and return home in sufficient time
for her to prepare them to cook for

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dinner. They decided they would pick
more than enough so there would be no

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need for them to return to the
levee. They were enjoying their time together,

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but that awful stench was becoming unbearable. When they decided they had picked

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enough snap beans to sufficiently satisfy my
grandmother's needs for dinner and possibly supper,

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they picked up their overflowing buckets and
headed home. All of a sudden,

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they heard a frightening guttural growl.
My father said it sounded like someone who

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was heavily congested clearing their throat,
but much deeper. The rotten egg stench

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was now even thicker in the air. Suddenly, a manlike creature covered in

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long, stringy, dark brown,
matted wet hair walked out of the wooded

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area near the bayou and stood right
in front of my father and uncle.

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My father said he could just stand
remembered that this creature was only about thirty

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to fifty feet away, and he
could clearly see that it had a face

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that looked human, but with huge, jagged teeth. The creature then let

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out a terrifying, piercing scream and
turned and jumped into the bayou, and

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it swam away. My father said
it was as if everything from that point

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was in slow motion. He remembered
dropping his full bucket of snapbeans and grabbing

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his brother by the arm, as
if all in one movement. Uncle Lloyd

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then dropped his full bucket, spilling
all the contents on the ground. The

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two of them started running as fast
as they could back towards the house.

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My grandmother's version of the events of
that faithful morning made it all the more

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credible because my grandmother was never one
to embellish a story. She said she

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looked out the window and saw my
father and uncle running towards the house that

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she knew instantly they were not playing
a game, but that something terrible had

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happened. She initially believed that they
had been threatened by white men, as

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this was southern Louisiana and lynching of
blacks were not uncommon at that time.

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She ran out of the house to
meet them. They were both shaking and

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crying uncontrollably. She quickly sent one
of my aunts to the field to get

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my grandfather to let him know that
something terrible had happened to the boys.

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By the time my grandfather reached the
house, my father and uncle had calmed

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down sufficiently enough to talk. My
grandmother was confident that whatever happened, they

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would not dare lie to their father. When my grandfather asked them to tell

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what had happened, they recounted seeing
a hairy manlike creature near the bayou.

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They described how this bayou beast had
walked out of the trees and screamed at

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them with a high pitched scream,
and jumped in the bay you and swam

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away. Because they had none of
the snap beans they had spent all morning

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picking, and they both were still
visibly shaken, my grandfather was confident they

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were telling the truth. My father
would often end this story by saying that

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he did not know what he feared
the most, the hairy man like creature

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with a loud piercing scream, or
my grandfather not believing him. My father

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said he was so relieved when my
grandfather turned to my grandmother and said,

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these boys aren't lying. They saw
some type of creature. I'm certain of

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it. It is my father's vivid
recounting of this encounter that made me know

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that sosquatch is real. Oh yes, he's real. I also recently missed

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having my very own daytime encounter.
On January twenty eight, twenty nineteen,

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my sister and I both met up
on a connecting flight to Birmingham, Alabama

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for my son's wedding. We picked
up our rental car at the airport and

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began our hour and have trip to
Huntsville, Alabama. This journey was one

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I have made many times by car, as I lived in Huntsville, Alabama

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for over ten years. However,
this particular day, I was turned around

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as to how to leave the airport
and connect with the highway to take me

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to Huntsville. After driving for about
thirty minutes, we decided to stop and

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get a bite to eat. My
sister was bewildered as to how I could

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be so turned around and unable to
get my bearings. I'd only been gone

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from this area for six years.
She was growing impatient. Finally, we

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were on the correct exchange and headed
to Huntsville. We even talked about what

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possibility made me so scatterbrained and confused. We both had a good life and

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chalked it up to old age,
not that we would be considered that old,

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but we laughed it off and looked
forward to the next few days at

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my son's wedding. Just as we
made the extra change on to Interstate five

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sixty five leading into Huntsville. I
decided to call my soon to be daughter

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in law to let her know that
we would be at her house shortly.

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I was driving and talking to her
via bluetooth, so I knew exactly what

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time it was. It was three
zho five pm. My sister then looked

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at me and said, with this
really blank look on her face, I

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just saw a sisquatch. I looked
at her and initially thought she was talking

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about a billboard or a sign for
a business. I ended my phone call

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and turned to her and said,
what did you say. She repeated,

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I just saw a sisquatch. I
said, you're joking right. Strangely,

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my sister and I have never discussed
the topic of sasquatch or bigfoot. She

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then said, no, I was
looking at this thing crouched down off the

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side of the road as if it
were trying to conceal itself in the trees.

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You were driving so you could enter
the highway and I could clearly see

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it. First, I thought,
what is an orangutane doing out there?

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And then I realized I was looking
at a subsquatch. There are no words

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to explain how I being a bigfoot
enthusiast felt realizing that I had missed having

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my own daylight sighting in the safety
of a car. I told my sister,

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Apparently that is what all my confusion
was about in trying to leave Birmingham,

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because had we not had all of
that trouble leaving Birmingham, you would

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never have had your sighting. We
had a quick visit with my son and

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his soon to be wife, and
I told them about my sister's sighting.

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They found it to be extremely humorous, but I was a bag of nerves

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because I knew she was telling the
truth. I couldn't wait to check into

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the hotel so she could give me
even more details of what she could remember.

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In that brief moment. She did
say the creature was pale skinned and

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had a face that looked more Neanderthal
than ape, and it had long,

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stringy red hair. It had a
thick brow ridge and a really huge face.

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The head was cone shape, but
not really as pronounced as the Patterson

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Gimlin film. She said it looked
more manlike than ape. Of course,

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I reminded my sister of our father's
encounter on the Bayou. She said she

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remembered it, and that she had
always believed my father was telling the truth,

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but now she was certain of it. I really hate that there appear

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to be so many encounters all over
North America and other parts of the world,

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and people have been made to keep
their sightings and encounters to themselves.

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I do believe that more people that
share their encounters, the more it will

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minimize the stigma around it, and
mainstream scientists will have to take this subject

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more seriously. Oh, what a
great story. There's a secondhand story from

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her father from the nineteen forties in
South Louisiana, like she said, a

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quarter of a century before Patterson Gimlin. You know, there's tons of reports

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of bigfoot sightings in the swamps.
I don't know. I don't know what

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to make of all that. There's
a few around here. There's a bunch

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down in Louisiana and South Mississippi and
North Louisiana, all over the place.

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And then for her and her sister
to have that encounter on the highway way

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up in Huntsville, Alabama, that's
in the north part of the state.

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That's amazing. That's really amazing.
Well, ma'am, thank you for writing

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this. I really enjoyed reading it, and it was kind of nostalgic for

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me. But I really appreciate you. Thank you very much. Here's another

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story that the person doesn't want their
name disclosed, and again that's no problem.

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And here's what she writes. Hold
on a minute, Betsy, I've

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been petting you all day. Good
grief. Get out from under my chair.

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Go on, go go. I'm
sorry about that. I would like

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to share with you in experience I
had in the early nineteen eighties while driving

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home to Hendersonville, North Carolina,
from Ashville, North Carolina. I would

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like to preface my story by saying
I have never taken psychedelic drugs, and

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nor have I ever been a drinker. I was completely sober when this happened.

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Just before daybreak on a warm summer
morning. I was driving south on

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I twenty six from Ashville, North
Carolina. I had just dropped my husband

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off at work and was heading home
to Hendersonville. The morning light was still

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low and it was a bit foggy, so I was driving cautiously in the

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right lane. As I was passing
the Ashville Airport exit, I saw a

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large bright light high in the sky
coming down vertically directly in front of me.

406
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,519
I remember thinking that airplane is off
course and headed out in the wrong

407
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:04,119
direction. It looks like it's trying
to make a landing on the interstate.

408
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,920
I pulled over next to the guardrail
and turned my radio volume down low.

409
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:13,679
As the light came closer, it
stopped and hovered just above the interstate,

410
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:17,480
about one hundred and fifty yards away
from me. Then the craft slowly made

411
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:22,760
a sharp right turn and moved to
the east of me to hover about one

412
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,199
hundred and fifty feet above the dairy
farm below. This property is now the

413
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:34,119
golf course at the Ashville Airport.
The craft was only about fifty yards from

414
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,960
the guardrail now, and where I
sat in my car, I was mesmerized.

415
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,119
I rolled down my window and turned
off my car. I could hear

416
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:47,199
the noise of the spacecraft pulsing and
whirrying. It did not look or sound

417
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,000
like anything like the airplanes I had
seen and heard flying at the Ashville Airport

418
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:59,280
over the years. The craft was
flat on the bottom and domed an upside

419
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,360
down ulcer shape. The craft was
huge, at least the length of a

420
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,519
football field, and as it pulled
alongside me on my right, the bright

421
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:13,719
light on the front of the craft
was behind my view inside the car as

422
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,320
it illuminated the pasture and the trees
beneath the craft. I could also see

423
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,000
that there were three smaller lights on
the side of the craft that I was

424
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:28,159
now facing, a red light flanked
by two small blue lights located at the

425
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:34,119
bottom of the disk. I could
also see faint lights of the Ashville Airport

426
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,119
runway in the background. I remember
thinking it must be some type of top

427
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:44,039
secret aircraft being tested by the Air
Force. I got out of the car

428
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:46,920
and I walked around to the back
of my Camaro over to the guardrail.

429
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:52,480
I stood there for some time,
just staring at it and trying to rationalize

430
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:57,519
what I was seeing. Why had
the airport control not called the highway patrol,

431
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,280
I thought to myself, Why is
no one's set Why is there no

432
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:07,760
response from police or emergency agencies.
All of these questions ran through my mind

433
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,679
as I stood there for several minutes, staring at the craft and waiting to

434
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,599
see what it would do next.
I felt like I was in some kind

435
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:21,000
of a trance or hypnotic state.
That was the last thing I remember until

436
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:25,079
forty five minutes later, when I
found myself sitting in my car with both

437
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:30,960
windows rolled up. The radio was
blaring and the car was running. The

438
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,400
heat was on high, and I
was drenched in sweat. By then,

439
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:40,960
it was full daylight and cars were
zooming past me. I was dazed and

440
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:46,880
confused as I drove home, emotionally
shaken, crying, and generally terrified.

441
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,239
I was also in intense pain,
so I went to bed immediately and I

442
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,360
slept for several hours due to the
stress. It felt like I had been

443
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:02,960
raped, and the pain and my
lower abdomen was excruciating. I never said

444
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,880
anything to my husband or anyone else
for that matter, for many years until

445
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:14,480
now. About a month later after
this incident, I had a very painful

446
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:20,639
miscarriage. Oh oh, it just
breaks my heart. I don't know what

447
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,719
happened during these forty five minutes of
lost time, but I believe I was

448
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,960
taken on board and I was impregnated. I will never know for sure.

449
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:34,719
I did not see or come in
contact with any creatures that I know of,

450
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,920
because I don't have any memory of
the forty five minutes. But this

451
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:43,559
I do know. Whatever happened to
me was against my will, and it

452
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:47,519
was very painful. It has taken
me many years to get my head wrapped

453
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:52,079
around what actually happened to me.
It has not been until the advent of

454
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:57,960
the Internet and YouTube that I have
come to understand there are others who have

455
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:02,679
had worse experiences with actions. Can
I prove that I was abducted, No,

456
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,079
but I do know this. If
this was an alien craft, the

457
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:14,840
creatures inside it were malevolent and very
dangerous. I believe they are demonic in

458
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,000
nature, and for anyone to think
that aliens are here to help us is

459
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:23,880
a naive. There are created beings
in this world that mean to harm us.

460
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:29,880
Perhaps they are the type of nephelum
spoken of in the Bible. Whether

461
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,599
your listeners believe my story is irrelevant
to me. I don't have a dog

462
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,360
in this hunt. I just want
to share this with others and let them

463
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,920
know if they have had a similar
experience, they are not alone. Just

464
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,559
be aware that these beings are not
like et Is portrayed in the film.

465
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,440
They are evil, and if you
have any contact with them, plead the

466
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,880
blood of Jesus and command them to
leave. Ma'am. That's a heart heartbreaking

467
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:07,320
story. I just oh, I
don't know something about miscarriages and little babies

468
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,440
and children. Just oh, it
just kills me. That's a horrifying experience.

469
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,760
And I know it's a horrible memory. And I've actually heard stories like

470
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:22,480
this before. I haven't done any
stories on this channel about it. And

471
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:28,000
I was a little reluctant to do
this because I know younger people listen in

472
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:31,480
with their families. But I don't
think this was too explicit. I think

473
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:36,639
this just you wanted to tell your
story, and I wanted to get it

474
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,480
out there for you. I hope
you're doing well these days, and I

475
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:45,320
hope things are good, and I
hope you've got your mind adjusted to and

476
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,199
I hope you're having a happy life. But thank you so much for the

477
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,599
story, and I know we all
appreciated you sharing it with us. Thank

478
00:39:52,679 --> 00:40:00,679
you. This is a list of
encounters for encounters. As a matter of

479
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:07,000
fact, from a man who wants
to be called old John. I'm going

480
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:12,599
on seventy one years old now,
and I've had four encounters in my lifetime.

481
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:16,199
I was born in Ohio and lived
on the northeast side of Eton.

482
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:22,000
Back in the late nineteen forties and
early nineteen fifties, we lived on the

483
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:28,599
east side of the road that was
called Eaton Gettysburg Road back then, sometime

484
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:34,039
after we left that area, the
name was changed to Park Street. To

485
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,840
our west in stretched for some four
hundred yards was a cornfield, beyond which

486
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:44,000
lay a thick forest. A large
creek ran through these woods. But our

487
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:47,760
parents wouldn't allow us boys to go
back there without an adult. They'd say,

488
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,480
the boogers will get you back in
there. Sometime in April of nineteen

489
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:58,199
fifty five, my uncle and his
family came for a visit. I was

490
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,079
in the first grade at the time. He had two boys about the age

491
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:06,159
of my brother and me. Well. That afternoon, we'd played baseball with

492
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,400
our dads and a couple of other
boys from down the road. By nightfall,

493
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,039
we were in the house playing a
board game in our bedroom. The

494
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,679
bedroom was located on the west side
of the house, with a window that

495
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:23,519
sat up high and faced the cornfield. We'd been sitting on my bed playing

496
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:28,039
the game for quite a while when
something hit the house with a thump so

497
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,599
hard that it shook the whole place
startled. We looked up and saw two

498
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,159
red eyes outlined by a large head, looking in the window at us.

499
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,559
Before we had time to register what
we were seeing. It made a loud,

500
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,760
screaming noise that jolted at us so
deeply that we began screaming too.

501
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,559
My father and uncle came running into
the room, demanding to know what was

502
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,679
going on. We all pointed to
the window and they saw it for just

503
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:01,679
a second before it disappeared. Dad
and my uncle grabbed a couple of Dad's

504
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,280
guns and ran out to see what
it could be. When they finally came

505
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,440
back inside, they told my mother
and aunt that it had been a bugger

506
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:15,239
and that it had run off into
the cornfield. Several years later, when

507
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:21,960
my grandparents' jobs transferred them, we
moved down here to Georgia. We lived

508
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,039
in a house about a mile down
a dirt road on the south side of

509
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:30,599
a small town of about twelve hundred
people. We made new friends and we'd

510
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:35,519
like to hunt in the woods surrounding
our house. There are a lot of

511
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:39,000
low swampy areas in this part of
Georgia, and we hunted almost all of

512
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:44,119
them. I had a school friend
who lived on a farm out on Highway

513
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:50,079
two twenty four, going towards Montezuma. I would often ride my bike to

514
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:53,119
six or seven miles to see him. Back then, it was all dirt

515
00:42:53,280 --> 00:43:00,079
roads the whole way. Early one
Saturday morning in the fall of nineteen six

516
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,559
four, I was riding out there
with my single barrel twenty gage shotgun to

517
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,159
do a bit of bird hunting with
my friend. There was a low,

518
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:13,800
boggy spot about a mile down to
twenty four where it turned off Highway one

519
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:19,320
twenty seven. A creek full of
cattails ran through a culvert under the dirt

520
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,679
road there. As I was riding
across, I noticed what looked like a

521
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,599
black man squatted down by the creek
on the west side of the road,

522
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,400
using his hands to dip up a
drink of water. At first, I

523
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,800
didn't think anything about this, because
there was a lot of black sharecroppers back

524
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,679
then. With the cotton fields that
were just beyond the creek, it would

525
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:44,920
have been normal to see a man
getting a drink. But then I got

526
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,679
even with him and he stood up. He didn't have any clothes on,

527
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,960
and he was over seven feet tall. His whole body except around the center

528
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,800
of his face, was covered in
black hair that was about three to four

529
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,320
inches long, a low brow ridge
and a sloped back forehead. With a

530
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,280
sort of football shaped skull sitting on
a stump of a neck that was almost

531
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:13,760
nonexistent. He looked directly at me
and watched as I started up to speed.

532
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,880
Then, to my horror, he
started running alongside the road on the

533
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,679
opposite side of the ditch, and
he was going in my direction. I

534
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:25,880
could tell that he was moving much
faster than I was, and there was

535
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,760
a narrow spot in the ditch up
ahead. I stood up and began peddling

536
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,519
for all I was worth trying to
get away from him, at the very

537
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,800
least to make it past the narrow
spot in the ditch before he got there.

538
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,920
I focused all my efforts on that
one task and didn't look back until

539
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,119
I passed it. Once I got
beyond that point, I looked back over

540
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:53,639
my shoulder and saw that he had
stopped and was now watching me pedal away.

541
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,960
I still didn't slack up until I
had arrived at my friend's house.

542
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,440
His dad was talking to him when
I pulled up, and he asked why

543
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:06,639
I was so out of breath,
and I told him what had happened.

544
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,440
My friend's dad laughed and said,
the next time, have the gun loaded,

545
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,000
keep your eye out for those swamp
apes. Needless to say, I

546
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:21,239
wasn't looking forward to my return trip
home that afternoon, and since they didn't

547
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,199
offer to give me a ride back
home, I left well before it got

548
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,360
too late. Now, I took
my friend's father's advice and had a shell

549
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,000
in my shotgun, although I seriously
doubt that birdshot would have done much to

550
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,840
deter anything as big as what I
had seen. I got home pretty quickly

551
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:44,920
that day. In nineteen sixty nine, I had gotten my draft notice.

552
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:49,360
I decided to join the Air Force
rather than wait to be inducted into the

553
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:53,480
Army. After completing basic training,
I had some leave time to use,

554
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:59,280
so I came home to Georgia and
got my car. I drove out to

555
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:05,079
my duty assignment at McCord Air Force
Base in Washington State. It's a long

556
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,599
way from Georgia to McCord. It
took five and a half days of driving

557
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:15,400
all day from sun up to way
past dark to get there. While crossing

558
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,800
Idaho on the fourth day, late
in the evening, it began raining really

559
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,199
hard. I was in the mountainous
area of West Idaho, traveling on US

560
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:30,320
ninety five, headed towards Lewiston.
It was early September, but in the

561
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,800
rain and the mountains that had already
gotten dark, I still had quite a

562
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,320
ways to go to where I had
planned to stop for the night. I

563
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,760
was coming up on a long hill
with thick woods on both sides at about

564
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:50,239
six thirty, but the rain were
pouring down. Signs warned of a sharp

565
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,039
left turn ahead, and I slowed
to about thirty miles per hour. As

566
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:58,639
I crested the hill, it did
make a sudden ninety degree turn, with

567
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:02,400
a series of left face arrow signs
all along the curve to mark the way.

568
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,119
These signs were about six or seven
feet high. As I followed around

569
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:13,639
the curve, my bright lights hit
a huge black sisquatch that had just stepped

570
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:16,760
out of the woods about forty feet
in front of me. He had stepped

571
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,599
from behind one of the arrow signs, the top of which came to his

572
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:27,239
pectoral muscles on his chest. He
was probably three feet taller than the top

573
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,199
of the sign post. He took
only about three steps to cross the road

574
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,679
and disappeared out of sight into the
woods on the left. He was heavily

575
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,679
muscled and very powerfully built. He
was barrel chested with shoulders that looked to

576
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,239
be about four feet wide. His
arms reached down to his knees and he

577
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:51,760
swung them as he walked. I
felt like I was frozen in time.

578
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,599
The whole encounter probably didn't last more
than four or five seconds, it seemed

579
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:00,960
much longer. I didn't want to
hang around saw. I sped up got

580
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:07,239
away from there as quickly as I
could. Many years after that, in

581
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,360
two thousand and five, my wife
and I booked a weekend in a cabin

582
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:16,079
in black Rock Mountain State Park,
located in North Georgia near Mountain City.

583
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,880
It was late October and we were
the only ones staying in a cabin for

584
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:27,159
the whole week. The first few
days a couple of other cabins were occupied,

585
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:31,239
but the last four days we had
the area to ourselves. We both

586
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,639
enjoyed walking in the woods in the
evening to watch the sunset on the ridge

587
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:42,000
behind the cabins, and then having
a leisurely walked back. I noticed a

588
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:45,800
couple of times that there was an
eerie silence as we walked. Also had

589
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:52,079
the feeling of being watched each time
I glanced around, but I didn't see

590
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:58,639
anything. On our last evening at
the cabin, we had watched the sunset

591
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,840
and then toasted some mark shmellows in
the fire ring behind the cabin. After

592
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,199
dousing the fire and making sure it
was out, we decided to take a

593
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,639
two mile night hike down through those
woods. From there, it would lead

594
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:15,960
us to a huge campground as well
as a large parking area for day hikers.

595
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:20,280
This parking area had been cut out
on the side of the mountain and

596
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,880
had the remains of a small side
ridge running through it. Rather than remove

597
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,480
the ridge, they had left it
and paved around it on both sides,

598
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:34,159
allowing the gap to create a couple
of rocky wooded islands that ran down the

599
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:38,400
middle. The light itself was about
a quarter a mile long, with the

600
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:44,840
islands being about one hundred yards long
each in space at fifty yards apart.

601
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:49,880
As we walked down the old logging
cut through the dark woods, we started

602
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:55,239
hearing something walking parallel to us with
very heavy footfalls. We stopped to listen,

603
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,960
and it took another step, and
then it stopped as well. We

604
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:04,920
started walking again, and it started
walking, and then we stopped, and

605
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,920
again it took another step or two
and then stopped. Then we would walk

606
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,679
and it would walk. This one
on all the way down to the parking

607
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,119
area, with us trying our best
to figure out what was following us.

608
00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:22,400
Several times we shined our lights,
but we couldn't see anything close to us

609
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,639
anywhere, and when we got to
the parking area, we thought whatever it

610
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,119
was it would stop, and it
did. But once we got out past

611
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:36,559
the first island and started walking on
the other side of it, it all

612
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:40,760
started over again. It was just
after we reached the point where we could

613
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,239
no longer see the old logging cut. Just like before, they were heavy

614
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:51,199
footfalls, but this time it was
coming from the island. We shined our

615
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,800
lights all up around through the wooded
area and called out to see if it

616
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,719
was one of the scouts who were
camping in the park that weekend, but

617
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:04,119
of course we got over spins,
so we just kept walking. We passed

618
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:07,840
the first island with whatever it was
following us and started to pass the second

619
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:13,480
one, and no sooner had we
gotten pasted the break between the islands where

620
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:17,239
we couldn't see the gap anymore than
we heard it again, this time coming

621
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:22,559
from the second island. Again we
shined our lights up into the woods,

622
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:27,119
but we didn't see anything As we
got to the end of the parking area,

623
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,360
we entered the campgrounds. There were
still a good number of folks there

624
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:36,280
that included the Scout troop and a
few other campers. This was a well

625
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,679
lit area that didn't offer as much
cover for something to be hiding behind.

626
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,039
We continued up through the campgrounds to
the check in center, and from there

627
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:50,599
we followed along the lighted road and
back to the cabin without any further incident.

628
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,880
Although we didn't physically see anything because
of the heavy footfalls, I feel

629
00:51:55,079 --> 00:52:00,760
sure we were followed by a sisquatch. Part of the incident to the rangers

630
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,000
on Sunday when we were leaving.
They tried to tell us it was probably

631
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:10,079
a bear cub looking for a handout. I don't talk about these encounters to

632
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:16,079
many people, mostly to just a
few trusted friends who've had similar experiences.

633
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:22,079
It isn't something I like to talk
about. I do, however, enjoy

634
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:27,119
hearing other people's experiences. Keep up
the good work so that others will know

635
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,840
that these creatures are real and they
do exist. Signed to Old John oh

636
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:38,239
Man. Four different encounters, Three
of them were full visuals and one was

637
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:44,840
anecdotal or footsteps following him. The
man is seventy one years old. He

638
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,920
spent obviously spent a lot of time
in the woods and where Bigfoot lives.

639
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:52,159
He knows, and he's one of
these people who he just has that magic.

640
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,960
You know. Some people have that
magic. They see him a lot

641
00:52:55,039 --> 00:53:00,320
through their lives. Then there's people
like me who never see anything, never

642
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,639
even see a track or a tree
break that we could say, oh,

643
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,239
something actually did that. I never
see anything. But old John is he's

644
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,480
got that magic and he see and
there are lots of people out there that

645
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:16,360
have seen these things more than once. I thought this was great. I

646
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:22,480
really appreciate him conveying these stories to
us because it's just good stuff. It's

647
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,360
just so interesting. Thank you,
mister John. I appreciate you sending it.

648
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:35,079
This incident occurred in the uh,
well no, it's not in THEE.

649
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:37,760
But it's about the Mogalon monster.
Now, I know some people say

650
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:43,599
it's pronounced mogi on, but that's
not how it's spelled. And I'm officially

651
00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:49,320
declaring that m O g O l
l o n is now and forever more

652
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:55,599
pronounce Moglon. That's the official pronunciation. Let the comments pour in, Let

653
00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:05,079
the hate pour in I'm calling that
Mogalon. Here's what he writes, Arizona

654
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:08,760
has a bigfoot crypti that we call
the Moglon Monster. I first heard about

655
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:14,800
it nineteen seventy four when I was
in the Boy Scouts. That summer at

656
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,239
Scout camp, we heard the story
of some previous fellow Scouts who encountered a

657
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:24,320
bigfoot back in the nineteen forties.
Camp Geronimo is nestled along the Mogolon rim

658
00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:30,239
near the town of Payson. Payson
paysin Payson let the comments pour in.

659
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:37,000
I know I mispronounced it. It's
a prime Arizona camping hotspot. The story

660
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:43,440
is well documented in newspapers all over
Arizona these days. I'm a retired correctional

661
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:47,559
administrator with sons of my own in
the Scouts, and in October of twenty

662
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,000
nineteen, two of them were we
Belows, and we were about to cross

663
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:57,320
over to Boy Scouts. We were
embarking on what was to be one of

664
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,480
the last camping trips as we belows. Timber Camp Recreation Center is located along

665
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:08,159
the eastern part of the Mogulan Rim
on US sixty. My other two sons

666
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:13,960
had come with us on our weekend
excursion in support of their brothers. We

667
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:17,320
arrived at eight pm. We'd left
right after the boys let out of school,

668
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:22,320
but it was a long drive.
As as we were among the last

669
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,079
to arrive, our choices of camping
spots were limited. We picked a spot

670
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:30,119
away from most campers along the fence
line against the pond of roast of pine

671
00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:35,719
forest, and by ten pm we'd
set up our camp and we'd built a

672
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,800
fire and were relaxing a bit before
turning in for the night. One by

673
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,159
one, my sons grew tired and
went to bed, but I stayed up

674
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:49,079
a while longer. I needed to
unwind. Around midnight, one of my

675
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,559
sons woke up to find as the
air mattress had gone flat. I pulled

676
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:57,320
it out and set it aside so
I could find and patch the leak in

677
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,320
the morning. Meanwhile, we aired
up a replacement. And by now it

678
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:06,679
was one am and I was beat. And I looked around as I watered

679
00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:09,400
down the fire, and I noticed
all the other campers were dark. Everyone

680
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:15,239
was apparently asleep. It was then
that I heard footfalls on the other side

681
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,960
of the fence line inside the trees. I had on a pretty good headlamp,

682
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:23,599
but I couldn't see anything or anyone
moving about. I gave up and

683
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:28,199
got inside the tent to go to
bed, and as soon as I did,

684
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:34,079
I clearly heard more footfalls. I
grabbed the big six D cell flashlight

685
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:37,719
that turns night into day and I
went back out to investigate, and I

686
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,599
pointed the light at the forest,
but again there was nothing there, nothing

687
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:46,320
but dead silence. I left both
Coleman lanners on so we could have some

688
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:52,440
light outside to see any shadows if
anyone approached our area, and then I

689
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,159
went to bed. When we woke
the next morning, I discovered the flat

690
00:56:57,199 --> 00:57:01,000
air mattress was soaked with what smelled
like you. I thought the boys had

691
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:05,920
taken turns hosing it down during the
night. What did you do that for,

692
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:08,559
I asked them, and I was
a little irritated. They all looked

693
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:13,159
at me like I was nuts.
None of them had left the tent during

694
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:15,440
the night. They said it was
too cold, and no one wanted to

695
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:21,400
leave his nice, warm sleeping bag. The next day was Saturday, October

696
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,079
twenty six, twenty nineteen, and
I spent that day trying to figure out

697
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:30,400
what I'd heard the night before.
I found what appeared to be a track

698
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:34,639
in a portion of soft soil inside
the tree line one hundred yards from our

699
00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:39,079
camp. We brought a twenty one
inch campfire grill, so I measured a

700
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:44,960
stick against that and compared it to
the track. It appeared to be sixteen

701
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:50,880
to eighteen inches in length. Whatever
left that track was apparently stepping across an

702
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,400
eight foot wide ravine. It looked
like it had been trying to push up

703
00:57:54,440 --> 00:58:00,440
out of the creek bed, and
I took a few photos. Back at

704
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,079
camp, I was telling the boys
about my discovery when one of the twins

705
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:07,320
told me that something strange happened to
four of the boys who had arrived early

706
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,599
and had gone on a hike the
day before. My boys went and got

707
00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:15,960
three of them so they could tell
me what happened. The first boy said

708
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,639
that four of them had gone on
a short hike along one of the trails

709
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:24,719
leading into the forest. They'd been
hiking about thirty minutes when all four boys

710
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:30,440
saw what they called a very tall
monkey. A tall monkey, I repeated,

711
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,159
yes, The boy answered, A
hairy monkey. How tall was the

712
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:37,639
monkey? I asked. The boy
pointed to a small eight foot tall pine

713
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:42,880
tree. He said, it's that
tall. Are you sure, I asked,

714
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,280
yeah. All four boys answered at
once. The monkey thing did not

715
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,239
look happy. The first boy continued, she showed us her teeth. What

716
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:57,280
ten year old kid would make that
up? I stood there in amazement,

717
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,760
knowing these kids weren't inventing this with
this amount of detail. I've listened to

718
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:07,079
enough YouTube videos to know that the
lip curling behavior is mentioned on occasion as

719
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:13,159
a form of intimidation. You said, she, What did you mean by

720
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:16,400
that? I asked, Well,
the first boy answered, we could see

721
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,880
that she didn't have any guy parts
down there. His face reddened a little,

722
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,239
and she had, and now he
pointed at his chest. Reason embarrassment

723
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:31,000
spreading across their faces boobs, I
supplied for them like a woman. Yeah,

724
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:36,280
they answered in unison. Well,
how did she show you her teeth?

725
00:59:36,519 --> 00:59:39,199
I asked next, and they each
curl their lips in a sort of

726
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:44,920
snarl, and I continue to ask
questions. I needed to know all that

727
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,840
they remembered. What color was she? I asked. They all agreed that

728
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,159
she was dark brown or black.
One of the kids said he could see

729
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:58,599
hair on her arms was a bit
long and moving in the wind. How

730
00:59:58,679 --> 01:00:00,679
much hair I asked, and they
said, well, it was like a

731
01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:06,599
monkey. It had hair all over, but very light in the face there

732
01:00:06,679 --> 01:00:09,320
the skin was kind of gray like
the hands. Well, did you see

733
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:14,159
anything else, I asked. They
said, it just stood there and the

734
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:17,239
trail, staring at them. It
didn't move closer or farther away. It

735
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:22,480
just stood there for a bit.
Then the first kid said, and then

736
01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:25,039
after a minute or two, it
turned around and started walking away, and

737
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:30,320
then it was gone. It walked
into the forest. I added, for

738
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:36,280
clarification, No, they all answered, it disappeared. The first boy said

739
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,000
it was walking away and it had
just disappeared on the trail. This was

740
01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:45,840
not the first time I'd heard about
bigfoot and portals. By now, I

741
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,920
was sure there were too many details
for kids to make up, and I

742
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,679
asked if they had told their parents, and they said they hadn't. We

743
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:55,639
didn't want to get in trouble.
One kid said, so, we didn't

744
01:00:55,639 --> 01:01:00,400
tell anyone. You're the first person
we've told. And then after that they

745
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:06,840
left. I made a short video
recounting everything they told me. It was

746
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,119
the first eyewitness encounter ever told to
me. I wanted to make sure that

747
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:15,719
I remembered it oh, sir,
where's your video? I'd love to see

748
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:22,199
your video. This area of the
Mogion Moglon region is just rife with stories

749
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:29,920
of this creature or these creatures,
and it seems to have the legend of

750
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:36,800
some kind of paranormal you know,
orb, I don't know what you call

751
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,599
it. The going in and out
of portals and things like that. It's

752
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:45,960
very interesting. I'd like to see
this area. I'd love to. I

753
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,199
don't want to live in the desert, but I like to go to the

754
01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:52,320
desert and visit for short periods of
time and look at the beautiful scenery.

755
01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:58,639
I'd like to go here and see
what's going on in this Mogalon area,

756
01:01:58,719 --> 01:02:04,920
Mogion area. So, and you
know what, just because I've officially made

757
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,639
Moglawon the correct pronunciation for that word, you can still use mogi On if

758
01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:13,840
you want, you have my blessing
on that. I just want you to

759
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:21,000
know. Here's an email from Kelly
and she doesn't think this is worthy of

760
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,880
a Cryptid channel, and it's really
not about a cryptid, but it is

761
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:30,079
a great story. It's just oh
man, you guys are so nice to

762
01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:32,519
send me these, even though they're
not about Bigfoot or whatever. There's just

763
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:36,760
so good. I love reading them. I just sat here and read through

764
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,719
this and I was like grip gripping
the arms on my chair, going what's

765
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:43,679
going to happen next? So let's
get into it, She writes. My

766
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,280
name is Kelly and I'm from England
and I'm a regular listener to your show.

767
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:52,039
I have a true story, but
I'm not sure if it will interest

768
01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:55,559
you. It isn't about Bigfoot nor
dog man, to be honest, it

769
01:02:55,599 --> 01:03:00,360
does not even involve a cryptid,
and I'm not sure you could class as

770
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:06,320
paranormal or supernatural, but I will
let you decide on that yourself. First,

771
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,440
let me tell you a little about
myself. I am a forty seven

772
01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:15,280
year old woman and I live in
Lincoln with my husband. The story did

773
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,199
not happen in Lincoln, but in
Manchester, where I used to live before

774
01:03:19,239 --> 01:03:22,960
I married. I lived on a
rather large estate back in two thousand and

775
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:28,480
two when this strange incident occurred,
and I had lived in that area since

776
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:34,480
nineteen seventy two. It was the
beginning of July and we had just had

777
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:37,519
the hottest day of the year.
It had been around ninety four and the

778
01:03:37,679 --> 01:03:43,440
night was so humid it was still
in the eighties. I knew I would

779
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,119
not be able to sleep, although
I was doing for work at nine am

780
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:52,599
the next morning, and I stayed
up watching television until two am. When

781
01:03:52,599 --> 01:03:55,000
I retired to bed. It was
boiling hot in the room, and I

782
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:59,639
opened the window as wide as I
could to let some air inside, but

783
01:03:59,679 --> 01:04:03,679
there was any. Sadly, we
don't have air conditioners here, and the

784
01:04:03,719 --> 01:04:10,039
air outside was as warm as that
within the room. I dressed lightly and

785
01:04:10,119 --> 01:04:13,440
I chose to sleep on top of
the covers, but as hard as I

786
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:16,199
tried, I couldn't sleep, and
I did not even feel tired. But

787
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,480
I knew without any sleep, I
would pay for it the next day at

788
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:25,840
work, I clock watched instead as
I tossed and turned, and then two

789
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,920
am changed into three am, and
then four am. It was just far

790
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,079
too warm to sleep, so I
took a book from my bookshelf and I

791
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:39,280
began to read, hoping that I
would eventually drift off to sleep. There

792
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,440
was not a sound from anywhere coming
through the window as I read, and

793
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,440
then about four thirty am I heard
the clopping sound, clip clop, clip

794
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,320
clop. My first thought was,
who was riding a horse at this time

795
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:56,400
of the morning. The clip clopping
noise continued, so I put my book

796
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,639
down and I leaned out to look
through my window. It was daylight,

797
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,280
and from my home I could see
either end of the street that I lived

798
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:09,400
on and the main road that it
attached to. The clip clop sound grew

799
01:05:09,519 --> 01:05:13,519
louder, and then in the distance
on the main road came a figure.

800
01:05:14,519 --> 01:05:17,119
I could not see them clearly,
only the top of their head over the

801
01:05:17,199 --> 01:05:20,719
distant hedges, but it was a
woman, I was sure of it,

802
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:26,440
and she was wearing heels, and
that is what was making the clip clop

803
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,199
noise. There was no traffic at
the time in the morning, and it

804
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,639
was a Tuesday, so I wondered
why someone was out so early. I

805
01:05:33,679 --> 01:05:38,159
popped my head back into the room
so she would not see me spying on

806
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,599
her, and as she turned the
corner, I was amazed to see that

807
01:05:41,679 --> 01:05:45,159
she was wearing a winter jacket with
a hood pulled up in all that heat.

808
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:51,679
She was also wearing trousers in what
looked like old fashioned hobnailed boots,

809
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,880
which still made the loud clip clop
sound. The jacket had the old style

810
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,960
wooden toggles on the front to tie
up, and I stood back in the

811
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,280
shadows, watching her, thinking that
she must be slightly mad to be dressed

812
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:10,519
for winter after the hottest day of
the year. I observed her and she

813
01:06:10,639 --> 01:06:15,519
drew level with my house clip,
clopping along. She was side on to

814
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:17,920
me, with her head down,
looking at the ground, so all I

815
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:23,480
could see was her hood, and
then she suddenly stopped. Abruptly, she

816
01:06:23,679 --> 01:06:28,920
turned and looked directly up at me. This caused me to take a sharp

817
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,360
intake of breath and step backward.
How did she know that I was there?

818
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,679
I thought. I remember her face
well from what I could see of

819
01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:42,280
it under her hood. It was
pale like alabaster, and she had dark

820
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:47,360
eyes and a thin mouth that remained
closed. Everything about her was off kilter

821
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,000
to me, and the hairs on
the back of my neck were standing on

822
01:06:51,519 --> 01:06:56,599
end. I thought, what am
I doing stepping away from the window.

823
01:06:57,079 --> 01:07:00,280
It was still wide open, and
I thought, if anyone is weird here,

824
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,280
it's her. So I stepped back
to the window and she was gone.

825
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:09,400
All this occurred in seconds, and
seeing as I had heard her approaching

826
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,480
for the last five minutes with her
loud footwear, if she had run off

827
01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:16,360
or walk I would have heard it. I knew all my neighbors well,

828
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:20,079
and she wasn't one of them,
so she had not skipped into the houses.

829
01:07:20,159 --> 01:07:25,119
Plus, they all had iron gates
that made a loud noise as you

830
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:29,519
opened them. I looked out of
the window the entire length of the street,

831
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,400
left and right, but she was
gone. I thought I had spooked

832
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,039
her and she ran into the garden
to hide. I would have heard that

833
01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:41,480
clip clop of heels though on the
pavement. I stood at the window until

834
01:07:41,519 --> 01:07:45,000
five thirty am in case she was
hiding somewhere, but I never saw her

835
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:50,159
again. As I stood observing and
slightly baffled at the window, a cat

836
01:07:50,239 --> 01:07:55,360
came from the left of the street
walking along, and another from the right,

837
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,639
and they met and sat side by
side where the woman had stood.

838
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:04,039
When she turned to look up at
me. It was so weird. Cats

839
01:08:04,119 --> 01:08:08,360
usually fight, and these two were
not known to me as any of the

840
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:13,039
neighborhood cats either. I stood watching
the road with the window shut, even

841
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:15,600
in the heat. I had images
of her flying through my window to get

842
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,520
me, so I slammed it shut
and watched through the glass. The whole

843
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:24,640
episode creeped me out. I could
not sleep at all that night, and

844
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,840
I went to work A few hours
later. I told a few family members

845
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,239
and they thought it strange, but
they had no ideas. I wondered if

846
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:35,920
the lady had maybe a skin problem, hence why she was covered over,

847
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,960
But why would you wear the heaviest
clothes in that heat? Plus it still

848
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:45,399
did not answer where she suddenly disappeared
to silently. I suppose that will remain

849
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:50,640
a mystery. I moved out in
twenty twelve, and the only time I

850
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,920
ever saw and heard anything was back
in two thousand and two. But it

851
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,880
has stuck in my mind as odd
all these years later. And if she

852
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,119
it was real or not, your
guess is as good as mine. I

853
01:09:03,159 --> 01:09:08,239
don't even know if this story is
scary or just perplexing, and I was

854
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:12,760
most definitely not dreaming. I know, as I never slept that night,

855
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,279
and on hot evenings afterwards, I'll
always keep the window closed and endured the

856
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:20,479
heat. As I finished typing this, the hairs on the back of my

857
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:25,479
neck stood up again, and I
turned around to check that she wasn't standing

858
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:30,880
there. How foolish is that?
Lol? Anyway, I love the channel

859
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,960
and keep up the good work.
Kelly. I love that story. You

860
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:40,199
know, it's the way you wrote
it. It's the way you wrote it,

861
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:43,159
ma'am. I mean, you just
did a great job. You guys.

862
01:09:43,159 --> 01:09:46,279
If you think about these stories and
you take real events and you describe

863
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:49,399
them really well, and you know
where to put the suspense, and you

864
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:54,199
know how to structure your paragraphs,
and sometimes it takes right in it two

865
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:59,039
or three times. But when you
do, you guys pop out some great

866
01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:01,920
stories. And I love this,
Kelly, thank you so much for sending

867
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:06,560
it. It will absolutely fit on
this channel and it's going in this video.

868
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:14,680
Thanks Kelly. All the way in
the uk Okay an anonymous writer and

869
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,960
this is about a bigfoot and he
says this is true, absolutely true.

870
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:25,680
I hail from the deep southern Pines
of Mississippi, where I grew up in

871
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:31,279
the small community of steep Hollow.
After my parents separated when I was ten,

872
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,640
my sister and I would spend weekends
with our dad. He was living

873
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:41,079
on his sister's land at the time. We enjoyed going there because my aunt's

874
01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:45,560
kids were around our age, which
meant plenty of playmates. My oldest cousin

875
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:50,560
and I were of an age to
wheel pellet rifles and had therefore deemed ourselves

876
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:57,520
skilled hunters. Early one winter morning, we got up and dressed without waking

877
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,159
anyone else, and then headed out
on a hunting excression. We left my

878
01:11:01,279 --> 01:11:04,760
aunt's house at the top of the
big hill and followed a gravel road down

879
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:10,239
toward the family fish pond. At
the midway point, we passed the pond

880
01:11:10,279 --> 01:11:15,159
and kept going until the hill leveled
out into a large field. On the

881
01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:18,560
other side of that field was a
tree line where Crane Creek ran through the

882
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:24,760
property, and beyond that, my
aunt's land continued for several more acres into

883
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:29,760
the woods. We went into the
tree line and followed the creek, plinking

884
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,279
at old coke cans and whatever little
birds we thought we could hit, but

885
01:11:32,399 --> 01:11:38,600
we never did. We both noticed
a rancid smell in the air. It

886
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:43,960
was nauseating. It was a combination
of rotting, death and earth. Nevertheless,

887
01:11:44,039 --> 01:11:49,079
we carried on exploring and plinking.
We were surrounded by the natural sounds

888
01:11:49,079 --> 01:11:54,880
of the woods. Birds were singing, and the creek gently babbled alongside of

889
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:59,520
us as we explored. A short
while later, we set up two pine

890
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,079
cones or target practice, and I
was taking aim when a bone chilling,

891
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:11,439
blood curdling scream like nothing we had
ever heard before split the air. Petrified,

892
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:16,439
we froze in place. Growing up
in the southern countryside, we knew

893
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:21,039
the sounds of bobcats and wild hogs
and pretty much every animal known to exist

894
01:12:21,079 --> 01:12:27,279
in those woods, but this one
we couldn't identify. It was somewhere between

895
01:12:27,319 --> 01:12:30,760
a large cat and a woman screaming, but louder and angrier. It was

896
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:35,560
almost as if it were raging at
us, and from our best estimate,

897
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:40,239
it was doing this from not more
than fifty yards away on the other side

898
01:12:40,279 --> 01:12:44,399
of the creek, a distance that
any predator big enough to make that sound

899
01:12:44,399 --> 01:12:48,479
would have no trouble closing in seconds. We didn't know what to do,

900
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:55,159
and fear kept us frozen in place. Our eyes were like saucers as we

901
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,800
stared at each other and then in
the direction of the scream, and then

902
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,920
back at each other. I don't
know exactly how long we stood there,

903
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,920
It felt like several minutes, and
then through the trees, we saw my

904
01:13:06,039 --> 01:13:11,079
father's truck flying down the hill toward
us, with my aunt in the passenger

905
01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:14,560
seat. They were at the bottom
of the hill in no time. But

906
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,800
that was the part that felt like
the longest to me. Get in the

907
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:23,239
truck. My dad yelled, we
didn't have to be told twice. We

908
01:13:23,359 --> 01:13:26,640
jumped into the bed just as quick
as he'd driven down the hill, and

909
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,840
he drove us back up to the
house. We didn't know it, but

910
01:13:30,039 --> 01:13:33,680
my dad and my aunt had been
sitting on the front porch watching us that

911
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:40,079
morning. We thought we'd slipped out
of the house undetected. They were sitting

912
01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:44,640
there keeping a watchful eye on us
when they heard that same scream that terrified

913
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:49,399
us. But they saw something that
we didn't. Shortly after the scream,

914
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:56,399
they saw a monstrous black figure careening
across the field in our direction. It

915
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,960
was running on all fours and moving
faster than anything ever seen. Well,

916
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,880
we never saw it, assume because
of the trees, but we smelled it

917
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:10,760
and we absolutely heard it. It
was a long time before we ventured off

918
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,079
into the woods again, and to
this day I can still hear that screen.

919
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:20,279
I'll likely never forget it. Oh
man, you ever you ever miss

920
01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:26,359
a tragedy like there was one time
I remember when I was a kid.

921
01:14:26,399 --> 01:14:29,720
It was dark, we were all
out playing at night. It was summertime,

922
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,760
and you know those kind of nights
whereas kids you could just go and

923
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:39,159
go and go and go and run
full speed and your energy never ran out.

924
01:14:39,239 --> 01:14:43,319
We were playing some game I don't
know, but I was running.

925
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:45,920
You know. It's one of the
games where you're it, you're it,

926
01:14:46,119 --> 01:14:49,399
you try not to get caught.
I can't remember the game, but I

927
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:54,439
was running towards this magnolia tree.
I was going to jump up in this

928
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,560
magnolia tree. Of course, it
was dark and I couldn't see anything,

929
01:14:59,319 --> 01:15:03,359
but I I ran at that tree
full speed and I leaped. It's like

930
01:15:03,399 --> 01:15:08,640
I never slowed down. I leaped
to get on to grab onto the trunk

931
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,800
and shimmy up the tree. Now, MAGNOI, your branches are down low,

932
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,640
but these people have had cut them
off, and this thing had a

933
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,560
trunk about head high to me.
But I ran full speed at that trunk,

934
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:24,399
and just as I bare clawed that
trunk and was fixing the shemy up,

935
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:29,520
there was a branch poking out of
that magnolia tree and it hit me

936
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,159
right at the corner of my eyebone, the outside of my eyebone, and

937
01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:40,479
it deflected to the outside of my
head towards my ear. It kind of

938
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,720
went above my ear, but it
put a pretty good cut in my eye.

939
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,279
I mean, it wasn't didn't need
stitches or anything, but I was

940
01:15:46,319 --> 01:15:51,640
going so fast. If I had
been an eighth of an inch closer to

941
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:57,239
my right, that stick would have
gone straight in my head and in my

942
01:15:57,359 --> 01:16:02,520
brain and killed me. It's one
of those where you avoided a tragedy by

943
01:16:03,239 --> 01:16:10,279
micro inches and you always remember it. And this is what this story reminds

944
01:16:10,319 --> 01:16:15,600
me of. It's like this thing
was barreling through the field at them.

945
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,000
I don't know how the parents got
there fast enough before whatever this was running

946
01:16:19,039 --> 01:16:24,039
on all fours got to these boys. But man, that you know,

947
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:28,159
you look back on things like that
and you think, maybe maybe God has

948
01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:30,760
a plan for my life or something, because he didn't kill me then,

949
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,439
but he almost did. But that
that's what that reminded me of. And

950
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,439
I don't know why I told you
all that, but it's the first thing

951
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,359
that popped in my head, and
you know me, if it pops in

952
01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:43,720
my head, I'm going to say
it all right. Thank you to the

953
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:48,840
writer for this story. It was
really good, really good. Here's a

954
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:56,199
story from Florida, possibly a skunk
cake story. The writer's name is Matt.

955
01:16:56,239 --> 01:17:00,479
Here's what he writes. As a
nine year old in the nineteen I

956
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,319
spent most of, if not all, of my time in the woods from

957
01:17:04,319 --> 01:17:08,640
the time I could crawl. My
mom sent me outside to play with our

958
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:15,079
Rhodesian ridgeback bullet. Somewhere in the
rubber made container full of photographs is a

959
01:17:15,079 --> 01:17:18,600
picture of me and a diaper propped
up against bullet under our house with a

960
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:24,960
bottle I lived outside. The first
day of the first grade. I was

961
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,520
already deep in the swamp when I
heard my mom yelling from the porch to

962
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,520
come home and eat breakfast and get
ready for school. School hadn't even thought

963
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:38,159
about it until that moment. My
life to that point had been a blur

964
01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:43,079
of camo, my Swiss army knife
buttoned into a leather sheath on my hip,

965
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,720
a machette, my dog, and
the twenty thousand acres of wildlife preserve

966
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:53,800
behind our little patch of swamp in
Christmas, Florida. At that time,

967
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:58,399
the little town of Christmas was composed
solely of a post office, a church,

968
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,560
and a thirty foot Christmas tree that
was lit year round off the side

969
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:08,119
of Highway fifty seven in the middle
of nowhere. Nowhere was just how I

970
01:18:08,319 --> 01:18:13,159
liked it. I fished and trapped
and built every kind of fort imaginable among

971
01:18:13,199 --> 01:18:17,319
the palmeadows and the cypress of those
swamps. When I was nine, my

972
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,760
dad helped me build a little hut
with a thatched roof made from palmeadows.

973
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,359
It was long and narrow, and
the perfect size to hang my hammock.

974
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,359
Despite having spent so much of my
life in the woods until then, I

975
01:18:31,399 --> 01:18:35,399
had never spent a night alone out
there. With my new hut, I

976
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:41,119
decided that this was the time to
attempt my first solo camping trip. I

977
01:18:41,159 --> 01:18:44,880
had to prove it to myself and
my dad that I was a woodsman that

978
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:49,079
I claimed to be. Later that
day, with my machete in hand,

979
01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:54,199
I hacked my way the quarter of
a mile or so into the swamp behind

980
01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:59,760
our house to my hut. As
the sun's lash rays began to fade and

981
01:19:00,039 --> 01:19:02,600
dark and I swallowed the air around
me, I struck my lighter to start

982
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,520
a fire, and I was looking
forward to the eggs and sausage that I

983
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:12,239
was planning to cook for dinner.
The same instant, the flame sprung from

984
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:16,119
my lighter. A scream erupted from
the swamp not thirty feet into the darkness

985
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:21,319
behind me. It was a kind
of blood curdling, freezer muscle scream that

986
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:27,640
send your mind racing. It sounded
like a woman was being stabbed to death

987
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,840
in the palmetto patch, and I
strained to see something, but the night

988
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:36,239
was already so thick that I couldn't
see. I sat frozen in terror,

989
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:41,279
and a few seconds later the sound
of the scream had faded, and I

990
01:19:41,399 --> 01:19:46,520
was relieved to find my heart hadn't
actually exploded. It felt like an eternity

991
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,720
as I struggled to comprehend what I
had just heard. Who would be all

992
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:55,119
the way back here in the dark. If they were here, they were

993
01:19:55,159 --> 01:20:00,359
trespassing. Could it have been a
poacher? Why were they murdering on woman?

994
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,439
Who was she? Was I next? In reality? All of these

995
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:10,239
thoughts flashed through my mind In less
than a second. My heart had just

996
01:20:10,319 --> 01:20:14,600
begun to slow its relentless effort to
escape my rib cage when a roar that

997
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:19,239
shook my insides exploded from the same
patch of pal meadows behind me. It

998
01:20:19,319 --> 01:20:25,479
was followed by another screen, A
lion was now eating the woman. But

999
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:30,199
no, lions didn't live here,
I thought, the urge to mess my

1000
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:36,560
pants. There was no conscious decision
between flight or fight. There wasn't time.

1001
01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:42,760
I was already flying down the path
towards the house. Later, all

1002
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,800
that I would remember of my escape
was passing the pond that marked the halfway

1003
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,600
point back to the house, and
the next thing I knew, I was

1004
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:55,680
beating at the French doors on the
back porch with all my strength. My

1005
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:00,000
Dad had been in his room reading
when he heard my pleading and relentless assault

1006
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:03,119
on the glass panels. Open the
door. It's me, I screamed.

1007
01:21:03,279 --> 01:21:08,119
There's a guy in the woods with
a knife. He's killing her. That

1008
01:21:08,279 --> 01:21:12,800
was all I could think to say. Dad rushed to the door and opened

1009
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,880
it and asked what in the world
was wrong with me? And I explained

1010
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:20,640
that I had just heard a woman
being murdered and then lions roaring. Well.

1011
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:26,000
Then he started to laugh, and
I wasn't amused. Your hair is

1012
01:21:26,039 --> 01:21:30,600
standing straight up, he said.
I didn't give a rat speckle backside what

1013
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,520
my hair was doing. A woman
was being murdered, she was being stabbed

1014
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:39,880
to death and eaten or whatever.
Right in our backyard. It was probably

1015
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:45,279
a cougar, he explained, they
sometimes do that. I decided that I'd

1016
01:21:45,279 --> 01:21:48,319
had enough for one night. I'd
have to attempt a solo camp some other

1017
01:21:48,399 --> 01:21:51,600
time when I was sure no women, bears, lines, or cougars or

1018
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:57,720
axe murderers were out and about in
the dark. I've spent plenty of nights

1019
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,000
in the woods since then, both
alone and with others, but I've never

1020
01:22:01,039 --> 01:22:06,079
again heard anything like that. I
was only nine at the time, but

1021
01:22:06,199 --> 01:22:11,359
I'm pretty sure I broke speed records
that night, and I don't think my

1022
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:16,399
feet ever touched the ground. Whoa
man, What a story These stories with

1023
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,479
the children. You know, when
these people are small and they have these

1024
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:25,000
encounters, we listen to them and
we're kind of entertained by these stories.

1025
01:22:25,039 --> 01:22:28,159
I mean, really, we are
entertained by these stories. But if you

1026
01:22:28,199 --> 01:22:31,640
put yourself in and their shoes,
oh my gosh, you know, it's

1027
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,079
just got to be terrifying. It
would have been for me at nine years

1028
01:22:35,119 --> 01:22:39,239
old. I know that, and
there were things that scared me at nine,

1029
01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:42,960
nothing like a bigfoot or anything like
that. But you know, you're

1030
01:22:43,119 --> 01:22:47,359
very impressionable, and your fear level
is like off the charts when something scares

1031
01:22:47,399 --> 01:22:50,800
you, and so that's why I
kind of, I don't know, I

1032
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:57,000
kind of identify with these stories people
reminisce about their childhood and these weird things

1033
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,520
that happened. But Matt, this
was a great story, and I really

1034
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,039
appreciate you're sending it. I'm gonna
look up on the map where Christmas,

1035
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:05,479
Florida is. I've never heard of
it. Well, I'm just gonna look

1036
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,039
it up and figure out where it
is. Maybe time next time i'm down

1037
01:23:09,039 --> 01:23:11,880
there, I'm gonna go look at
that Christmas tree. All right, Thanks

1038
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:17,159
Matt, Thanks again. I appreciate
the story. I was born into a

1039
01:23:17,279 --> 01:23:23,760
violent family. My father was an
alcoholic scot with a Native American and his

1040
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:29,760
lineage somewhere. My mother was an
auburn haired Irish girl who was naive but

1041
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,960
quick tempered. Every day of my
life was filled with arguments that turned violent.

1042
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:41,800
I became a panic stricken, socially
backward, messed up kid, whereas

1043
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:46,680
the kids at school called me a
retarded pansy. We lived in the Quad

1044
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:53,199
Cities area of North Alabama, a
mile from the Tennessee River. The Tennessee

1045
01:23:53,319 --> 01:23:59,359
Valley Authority or TVA owned the forested
area. Those woods in the river were

1046
01:23:59,399 --> 01:24:03,399
my sanctuary. I knew all the
game trails, snake pits, and fishing

1047
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:08,920
holes for miles around, and I
used to walk past the school bus stop

1048
01:24:09,279 --> 01:24:12,880
and straight into the woods, where
I would spend my day in peace.

1049
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,159
At school, I was bullied and
made fun of because I was a nervous

1050
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:24,119
and shy kid. Now I realized
that I was suffering from severe social anxiety

1051
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:30,159
and panic attacks, a condition that
was not studied in those days. I

1052
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:36,760
grew older and eventually collapsed into agoraphobia
and became housebound. I only ventured out

1053
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:42,680
in the early morning hours to drive
a newspaper route. This job allowed me

1054
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,319
to pay my bills, but still
be alone and isolated. It's difficult to

1055
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:53,720
describe the misery suffered by a housebound
person. To be young and healthy,

1056
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:58,159
yet afraid to walk out the door. In my mind, there was a

1057
01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:02,000
monster just outside that door, waiting
to devour me. Now I thought I

1058
01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:08,840
was insane, and that scared me
even more. For years, I stayed

1059
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:14,720
inside, burying myself in pity because
I couldn't live a normal life. I

1060
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,239
became jealous of others who were living
the life I wanted, and that jealousy

1061
01:25:18,359 --> 01:25:25,600
turned to resentment and eventually to pure
hatred. I lived with my hatred and

1062
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:31,640
plotted my revenge. The insults and
bullying never left my mind. Fantasies of

1063
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:39,279
punishing my tormentors began to consume me. The thoughts grew darker by the day.

1064
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:44,199
The torture methods I envisioned for my
victims were only complete when at the

1065
01:25:44,279 --> 01:25:48,239
last moment before I killed them,
I would reveal myself. I wanted them

1066
01:25:48,279 --> 01:25:54,439
to see my face and regret the
way they treated me. But insane or

1067
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:58,439
not, I never heard anyone,
even though the thoughts of revenge continued.

1068
01:25:59,319 --> 01:26:02,880
Now I wonder if this was the
way serial killers got their start. When

1069
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:09,319
would I snap something strange was happening? Though, the more of a monster

1070
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,680
I became in my own mind,
the less I feared the monster beyond my

1071
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:19,359
door, and I began to venture
out. Like in most neighborhoods, there

1072
01:26:19,359 --> 01:26:26,359
are always the troublemakers, kids who
seem to always cause problems. If it's

1073
01:26:26,399 --> 01:26:29,600
a bad thing to do, When
it would be easier to do good,

1074
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:33,319
they always choose the bad. They
get a kick out of picking on kids

1075
01:26:33,359 --> 01:26:38,720
who just want to have fun,
they seek out the innocent and prey on

1076
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:43,800
them. Most kids grow out of
that face. Adulthood has a way of

1077
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:47,560
taming the devil inside us, but
some never learn, and you have to

1078
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:54,840
wonder if they were born to constantly
be a burden on society. Seth was

1079
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:59,720
the worst in our neighborhood. He
spent his days tormenting the younger, weaker.

1080
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:04,199
Kiss I was his special project,
and even as an adult, he

1081
01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:11,600
once drove by my house shouting insults
while flipping me the bird. Seth had

1082
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:17,239
been on my list for years.
Seth seemed to idolize all the hoods around

1083
01:27:17,239 --> 01:27:21,920
our town. Eventually he teamed up
with another local punk who had a worse

1084
01:27:23,039 --> 01:27:28,560
reputation. Tony was a criminal who
had done time in prison. When he

1085
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:33,359
was released, he showed no rehabilitation
and resumed the life he lived previously.

1086
01:27:34,079 --> 01:27:42,640
Robbery, burglary, and intimidation were
his forte Tony and Seth were arrested not

1087
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:47,039
long after for crimes that was send
Seth to trial on a rape charge and

1088
01:27:47,119 --> 01:27:54,000
Tony to death for murder. Tony
was later convicted and his death sentence was

1089
01:27:54,000 --> 01:28:00,000
carried out in January of nineteen eighty
four. They both sat in the camp

1090
01:28:00,319 --> 01:28:03,720
jail waiting to be transferred to a
federal facility where they would be held until

1091
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:11,119
their trial. Careless guards left Seth's
sell unlocked, and he slipped out without

1092
01:28:11,159 --> 01:28:15,520
them noticing he was gone for several
hours. The story was soon breaking news

1093
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:21,119
on the TV. He was believed
to be armed and considered dangerous. No

1094
01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:26,960
one was to try to apprehend him
without calling the police, and authorities didn't

1095
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,239
know where he was, but they
were searching local woods. The image of

1096
01:28:30,399 --> 01:28:35,520
Seth's mugshot covering the screen brought back
the hate that had built inside me.

1097
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:41,720
I remembered seeing Seth and his buddies
and years passed in the woods where I

1098
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,159
went for peace and quiet. I
knew he would run to anything familiar,

1099
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,760
and sure enough, not long after
the story broke the news, police cars

1100
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:54,840
were running down my road. They
were looking for him in that place I

1101
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:59,880
call sanctuary. But I also knew
that he would need shelter. It was

1102
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:03,319
cold and it had been snowing,
and Seth wouldn't stay in the open if

1103
01:29:03,319 --> 01:29:09,680
he could help it. I knew
exactly where he would be. It would

1104
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:14,199
be several hours before I needed to
begin my paper route I had plenty of

1105
01:29:14,279 --> 01:29:17,560
time. With my pistol, a
knife, and a flashlight, I headed

1106
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:23,199
for the woods. More cars drove
fast down the road as I climbed the

1107
01:29:23,279 --> 01:29:28,359
hill behind my house. They were
heading to the wrong place. Seth would

1108
01:29:28,359 --> 01:29:30,840
have made it past those woods by
now, so I picked a route that

1109
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,039
would take me away from the search
area, through the woods and to the

1110
01:29:34,119 --> 01:29:39,279
place that I would go if I
were on the run. I was going

1111
01:29:39,319 --> 01:29:42,159
to find Seth, and I was
going to kill him. He had it

1112
01:29:42,199 --> 01:29:46,880
coming. The snow had stopped and
the clouds began to clear. The full

1113
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,359
moon lit my way, although I
didn't need it. I hadn't been in

1114
01:29:50,399 --> 01:29:56,439
those woods for years since the gooraphobia
took over my life, but I knew

1115
01:29:56,479 --> 01:30:01,000
the woods better than my own house. I headed to the river. Years

1116
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:05,960
before, the TVA had piled large
concrete pipes or culverts on the bank.

1117
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:12,079
They had never been used in construction, and I played in and around those

1118
01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:15,439
pipes for years. It would be
the only shelter for miles. On this

1119
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:20,439
cold night, I would quietly slip
down the bank and approach the massive pipes

1120
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:26,199
from that direction. He would never
think of anyone coming from the direction of

1121
01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:31,039
the river, he would be looking
toward the woods. After making it to

1122
01:30:31,119 --> 01:30:35,159
the river one hundred yards from the
pipes, I creeped along the bank.

1123
01:30:36,279 --> 01:30:41,039
I wasn't afraid, and that felt
good to me. I was outside in

1124
01:30:41,079 --> 01:30:45,760
the open air. The monster I
had feared was outside my door, had

1125
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,560
not attacked. I was free,
and I felt like a kid again.

1126
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:55,039
The pipes came into view under the
moonlight, and I stopped and watched for

1127
01:30:55,159 --> 01:31:00,680
movement. Seth would be no problem
physically. I could take him down quickly.

1128
01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:03,159
I even hoped that he had a
gun, so after I killed him,

1129
01:31:03,399 --> 01:31:09,039
I could claim self defense. And
still no monster came after me.

1130
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:15,760
Now I was the monster. All
was quiet except the shallow waves slapping the

1131
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,920
bank, and since there was no
movement, I began to think Seth had

1132
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:26,199
not come here. Disappointment took over, and I walked the last few feet

1133
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:30,359
toward the opening of the large pipe. When I entered, an odor of

1134
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:36,039
urine and riding fish hit me like
a slap in the face. I stepped

1135
01:31:36,039 --> 01:31:41,359
back out and took an inventory of
the items around me. There were smaller

1136
01:31:41,399 --> 01:31:45,119
pipes laying randomly along the bank,
some piled up on top of each other,

1137
01:31:45,159 --> 01:31:49,880
and others I could see farther away
from the water. With my pistol

1138
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:56,319
in hand and the flashlight on,
I lit the interior of the pipe.

1139
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:00,800
I expected to see seth right away. Instead, I got that strong smell

1140
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:06,760
again. I crept forward to exit
at the other end and searched the pipes

1141
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:12,119
beyond, and I felt the presence
of someone else there. It was like

1142
01:32:12,199 --> 01:32:15,600
a sixth sense. Even though I
could not see them, I knew they

1143
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:21,600
were close, and I felt it
before I heard it. A warm wind

1144
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:26,920
came down the pipe into my face, and my chest began to vibrate slightly.

1145
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,439
No one was in the pipe with
me. I could see the end,

1146
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:35,479
but thick brush had grown up at
the far side opening. The air

1147
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:40,840
I felt was a breath or an
exhale from something. I could smell it

1148
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:47,199
now stop. It screamed so loud
and was amplified inside the concrete tunnel.

1149
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:53,279
Stunned and frozen, I shined the
lights straight ahead and I saw two glowing

1150
01:32:53,399 --> 01:32:57,520
red eyes staring back at me,
and they were wrapped in the silhouette of

1151
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:01,359
a giant creature crouching behind the brush. I fired two shots at it,

1152
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:08,079
and then it stood up the top
of the six foot pipe was at its

1153
01:33:08,199 --> 01:33:14,119
chest level. This thing was huge. With one swift motion, he was

1154
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:17,279
on top of the pipe, moving
to the other end. It dropped down

1155
01:33:17,319 --> 01:33:21,000
and glared at me, and I
shot twice more, hitting it with both

1156
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:26,880
and the creature flinched and then roared. I had to get to the other

1157
01:33:27,079 --> 01:33:30,840
end, into a smaller pipe where
he couldn't reach me. I'm not sure

1158
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:35,439
I could get there fast enough.
I sprended anyway, after crashing through the

1159
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:40,840
tangle of vines and bushes. I
was looking straight into a much smaller pipe

1160
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:45,680
where I would fit, but the
creature wouldn't over the rocks and weeds.

1161
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:49,720
I dove into the inn and crawled. Its hand brushed my shoe as it

1162
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:56,600
reached inside to catch me. I
was inside far enough the tube was too

1163
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,800
small for me to turn around and
face the beast. The end in front

1164
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,840
of me was ten feet away and
completely blocked by debris, and I was

1165
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:09,560
trapped. So I waited periodically,
trying to look over my shoulder at the

1166
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,439
thing after me, but it was
pointless. Everything went quiet and I couldn't

1167
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:18,239
hear it now. No footsteps crunching
in the rocks, no heavy breaths,

1168
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:23,880
no screams, and for a second
I thought it had given up and left,

1169
01:34:24,399 --> 01:34:29,159
until the whole pipe was lifted into
the air. He was turning it

1170
01:34:29,279 --> 01:34:31,800
on its end and trying to shake
me out, and when he lifted the

1171
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:36,520
end, the pipe crack, giving
me a handhold. I could feel myself

1172
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:42,279
in the pipe being lifted vertically and
lowered several times. I could hear the

1173
01:34:42,279 --> 01:34:45,479
beast frustration when I didn't pop out
the end, but I hung on for

1174
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:51,640
my life, maybe out of frustration
or maybe from lack of interest. It

1175
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:58,039
finally pushed the end over and the
pipe slammed onto another with a crash.

1176
01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:01,560
I was on my back, now
toward the ground at an angle and still

1177
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:08,720
unreachable from either end. And then
one last lift dashed my hopes of surviving

1178
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,680
the night. As it lifted the
pipe, I suppose, over its head

1179
01:35:13,239 --> 01:35:19,439
and through a thousand pounds of concrete
and terrified human. My body tensed for

1180
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:24,560
the impact, and I expected the
brittle covert to break apart enough for it

1181
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:28,560
to reach inside and pull me out. But it hadn't thrown me to the

1182
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:32,800
ground. The pipe and I sailed
several feet in the air into the river.

1183
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:39,000
The cold water rushed in and shocked
me, and if I crawled forward,

1184
01:35:39,279 --> 01:35:43,560
I would be heading to the river
bed. Backing out of that broken

1185
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,399
pipe was difficult. My coat was
hung on the reinforcing wire fabric and it

1186
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,439
dug into my clothes, through into
my flesh, but I pushed through it.

1187
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,279
My air was running out fast.
My feet cleared the end of the

1188
01:35:57,319 --> 01:36:00,920
pipe and only had a few more
feet to go and I would be free.

1189
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:05,319
One last push backward folded my coat
over my head, so I allowed

1190
01:36:05,319 --> 01:36:10,720
my body to relax enough to slip
out of the heavy jacket. But without

1191
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:15,640
the coat, I was smaller,
and I pushed free from the pipe.

1192
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,319
The river was shallow in this spot, and one easy push off the pipe

1193
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:25,439
upwards sent me to the surface.
My eye searched the bank for the creature.

1194
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:30,359
It wasn't there, Thinking it had
finished me off, I assumed it

1195
01:36:30,399 --> 01:36:33,640
had left the area, and then
a few strokes toward the bank until I

1196
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:38,359
felt the sandy bottom, and then
I walked out of the water, frantically

1197
01:36:38,399 --> 01:36:44,720
looking everywhere for my attacker, and
still nothing came for me. What now,

1198
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:48,119
I thought I had a long walk
back home. I would freeze in

1199
01:36:48,199 --> 01:36:54,560
this weather, but that was my
only option before heading back up the bluff

1200
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,600
to my trail home. I looked
for my gun in flashlight, and a

1201
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,359
few feet into the pile of discarded
construction material, I saw the light I

1202
01:37:02,399 --> 01:37:05,680
had dropped, and not far from
the light, I saw my pistol laying

1203
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:11,359
in the leaves. And then I
started straight up through the debris, working

1204
01:37:11,399 --> 01:37:15,760
my way through the maze of pipes, trying not to break a leg an

1205
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,520
injury now it would be a death
sentence. When I was clear of the

1206
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:24,520
pipe and up the bank a bit, I looked back over the area and

1207
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:29,760
I saw the creature walking away from
me and knee deep water. The splashing

1208
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:33,359
had drawn my attention, and in
the moonlight I could finally see its full

1209
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:40,159
form. Long legs stepped high in
the water, and they carried a frame

1210
01:37:40,359 --> 01:37:45,960
that no man could contend with in
a fight. I expected it to return

1211
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,560
to the bank and head up the
mountain where the bank leveled out, but

1212
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:55,680
instead it walked out deeper into the
water and disappeared. The swirling of the

1213
01:37:55,720 --> 01:38:00,640
slow current was all I could see
on the surface pat and I was out

1214
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:04,239
there. Maybe that's where it was
headed. The monster had come in and

1215
01:38:04,279 --> 01:38:09,279
out of my life in a maddening, violent way, and I would never

1216
01:38:09,359 --> 01:38:15,880
see it again. That moment was
perhaps one of the most profound epiphanies of

1217
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,880
my life. For years, I
had dreamed of becoming the monster that brought

1218
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:26,840
vengeance to my tormentors, and now, watching this magnificent creature walk away from

1219
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:30,840
me, I knew I was not, nor did I want to inflict the

1220
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:36,199
same terror on anyone as I had
just experienced. I had just gone through

1221
01:38:36,279 --> 01:38:42,880
something that few survive. It wasn't
the size and vicious nature of the creature

1222
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,840
in that moment that brought on my
epiphany. It was the image in my

1223
01:38:47,039 --> 01:38:51,920
mind, still fresh as if I
saw it an hour ago, of Seth's

1224
01:38:53,199 --> 01:38:59,680
limp body hanging from the left hand
of the beast. Seth's arm dangled free,

1225
01:39:00,039 --> 01:39:04,439
his fingers dipping into the surface,
pushing a tiny wake. The beast

1226
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:12,119
had found its meal, and Seth, the rapist, vanished forever. I

1227
01:39:12,199 --> 01:39:15,319
started for home, a changed man, wondering if I could make it back

1228
01:39:15,359 --> 01:39:20,600
alive. On the side of the
mountain, already feeling weak, I saw

1229
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:27,000
lights moving through the woods toward me. I stopped and yelled, and soon

1230
01:39:27,239 --> 01:39:31,600
I was surrounded by searchers Once they
were sure that I wasn't Seth, they

1231
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:36,920
bummled me up and helped me get
home. They all left after depositing me

1232
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:41,279
in the house, except one deputy, who stayed to make sure that I

1233
01:39:41,359 --> 01:39:46,359
was not in serious hypothermia. After
taking a hot shower and getting some microwave

1234
01:39:46,399 --> 01:39:50,680
food in me, he and I
sat at my table sipping coffee, and

1235
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:56,520
I explained that I had suspected Seth
would be sheltering in those pipes, since

1236
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,680
it was the only place he could
have escaped the snow and wind. And

1237
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,920
then I lied and said that my
plan was to hold him there until the

1238
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:08,720
searchers arrived. There was no need
to say that I had planned to kill

1239
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:12,920
the guy for making fun of me. If by some strange event, the

1240
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,800
creature didn't eat Seth that night and
his corpse was found floating in the river,

1241
01:40:17,399 --> 01:40:23,760
I might be implicated and questioned I
had fallen in the river like an

1242
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:27,960
idiot on the coldest night of January, is what I told him. And

1243
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,840
then I headed straight for home,
hoping to not freeze to death, and

1244
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:35,960
thank goodness that I had run into
them not long after and sure that I

1245
01:40:36,079 --> 01:40:44,359
was healthy. The deputy left now
alone with my faults. All the repetitive

1246
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:49,199
visions I conjured every day over the
years seemed to slip away. I wasn't

1247
01:40:49,239 --> 01:40:55,199
a blooming serial killer after all.
I felt sane for the first time since

1248
01:40:55,239 --> 01:40:59,680
I was a kid. I slept
well that night and woke the next morning

1249
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,520
to the news. I already knew
that Seth the rapist had not been captured,

1250
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:09,680
but the search continued, and then, without hesitation, I walked out

1251
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:15,399
the door into the world with no
fear, no anxiety. After finishing my

1252
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,399
paper route, I stopped at a
local diner and ate a hearty breakfast,

1253
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:23,319
and I began to think of all
the places I was now free to go.

1254
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:30,239
The monster was actually in the woods, not outside my door. Now

1255
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:39,760
I was free. This is an
email I got from Paul. Paul lives

1256
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:44,319
in the United Kingdom, and he's
actually sent me a couple of stories,

1257
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,439
and I'm gonna share both of them
with you because I think they're interesting.

1258
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:51,119
They're not bigfoot stories, he writes. I started hunting and fishing when I

1259
01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:55,600
was ten years old with an uncle
here in the UK, and I've hunted

1260
01:41:55,600 --> 01:42:01,079
and fished worldwide ever since. Being
in the outdoor is me at my happiest

1261
01:42:01,279 --> 01:42:06,000
even if I don't get anything.
I enjoy stalking deer, working the land,

1262
01:42:06,079 --> 01:42:12,159
and being selective as to what I
harvest. Everything I harvest is for

1263
01:42:12,279 --> 01:42:15,319
the pot, except for the foxes
and the rats. As a hunter,

1264
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:19,520
I believe in selective and ethical hunting, and when I do take a life,

1265
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:25,439
I always give the best I can
for a quick, clean kill.

1266
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:29,800
I live in England, but most
of my hunting was in Scotland on syndicate

1267
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:35,159
land least from a tree plantation company. The plantation consisted of mature trees with

1268
01:42:35,319 --> 01:42:42,319
fire breaks, clear fell and new
plantation with gravel tracks. We were allowed

1269
01:42:42,359 --> 01:42:47,920
to have a static caravan on site. Americans call these camping trailers. The

1270
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:53,079
least area was fifteen hundred acres,
but next to this was a further twelve

1271
01:42:53,199 --> 01:42:57,920
hundred acres of woodland and farmland that
was run by a local and they shot

1272
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:02,199
for driven pheasant. The agreement with
the gamekeeper was if we helped keep the

1273
01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:08,439
foxes down on the chute by lamping
at night, we would get an invite

1274
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:13,399
on the chute for the end of
the season. On Keepers Day one weekend

1275
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,600
in early October two thousand and four, I arranged for myself and a friend

1276
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:20,640
to go deer stalking. I was
all packed up and ready to go when

1277
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:25,720
my friend called me and said he
couldn't come due to a family emergency,

1278
01:43:26,079 --> 01:43:30,520
so it was just me and the
dog, which was fine. I set

1279
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,039
off later than I was hoping for, and on the way up to Scotland,

1280
01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:38,800
I got held up even further with
roadworks. The five hour drive turned

1281
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:42,000
into six hours, and when I
got to the trailer in the Woodland,

1282
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:45,479
it was getting about nine thirty PM
and I was losing light. There was

1283
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:49,159
not enough light left to start an
evening stalk, so I made a meal

1284
01:43:49,399 --> 01:43:54,720
and I thought I would drive the
plantation next door after midnight and see if

1285
01:43:54,760 --> 01:44:00,279
I could nail some foxes whilst lamping. For all you readnext out there,

1286
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:05,039
lamping is what we call shining or
spotlight. But he's doing it legally for

1287
01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:10,560
foxes and predators, which is cool. We can't even do that. We

1288
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:14,119
can't even shine a light in a
field at night, and the game warn

1289
01:44:14,119 --> 01:44:16,720
will be on us like white on
rice. But anyway, I digress.

1290
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:21,520
It's shining for all the rednecks.
Just after midnight, I put the dog

1291
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:26,199
in the back of the land Rover, set the spotting lamp up and headed

1292
01:44:26,279 --> 01:44:30,680
off with my two forty three.
I arrived at the gate of the plantation

1293
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,439
and unlocked the gate and I drove
in. It was strange because I remember

1294
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:39,720
a funny feeling when I opened the
gate. I wasn't sure what it was,

1295
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:44,560
but something didn't feel right. I
drove along the mature woodland and I

1296
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:47,439
looked down a fire break and noticed
a bright light in the sky. It

1297
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:51,359
was very bright. I thought it
was a satellite off in the sky.

1298
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:56,560
This was looking out the right side
of my car at my three o'clock.

1299
01:44:57,399 --> 01:45:00,279
I carried on past the mature trees
and I turned right down a track that

1300
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:05,039
opened on some clear fell I expected
to see the light in front of me,

1301
01:45:05,319 --> 01:45:10,199
but it was still at ninety degrees
to my right, which was strange.

1302
01:45:11,039 --> 01:45:14,199
I carried down the track for about
three to four hundred yards and I

1303
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:17,439
stopped. I looked at the light
and it was still there, just hanging

1304
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:21,840
in the sky. I put my
zeice binoculars on it, and it was

1305
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:26,399
hard to look at it due to
the brightness. The thing was a bright

1306
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,880
silver. It looked like a cylinder
on its end, like you would put

1307
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,720
a coke can on a table.
I put the rangefinder on it, and

1308
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:38,319
it was six hundred and fifty yards
from me. It must have been twenty

1309
01:45:38,359 --> 01:45:42,439
five feet long and maybe ten feet
in diameter, and hanging about two hundred

1310
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:46,520
feet off the ground. I could
see the trees illuminated by its brightness below.

1311
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,920
I carried on down the track and
I turned right again. I was

1312
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:56,399
now driving behind it. I stopped
and put the rangefinder on it again,

1313
01:45:56,479 --> 01:46:00,199
and it was now at five hundred
yards. This thing just hung there.

1314
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,800
I don't know what it was,
but it made no noise and it didn't

1315
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:09,880
seem to move. I was mesmerized
by it. Fear took over, and

1316
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:14,079
I thought it best to move along. I floored it down the track.

1317
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:17,199
The road curved at the end and
joined the original track that I came in

1318
01:46:17,319 --> 01:46:21,840
on. I looked out the window
and it was still hanging there. I

1319
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:26,039
had driven all the way around it, and it was always on the right

1320
01:46:26,079 --> 01:46:30,239
side of the vehicle. I drove
back to my syndicate area and I went

1321
01:46:30,319 --> 01:46:33,960
to bed in the caravan. In
the morning, I drove to the next

1322
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:39,319
door plantation again about nine am,
and I looked at the area again and

1323
01:46:39,399 --> 01:46:43,560
saw no sign of it. I
drove the same route and stopped in the

1324
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,960
same places, and I never saw
anything strange. A few months later I

1325
01:46:48,039 --> 01:46:51,640
told a friend about it, and
after he finished laughing at me and saying

1326
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:56,479
it was the moon or a planet, he asked me why I didn't go

1327
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:59,439
closer to it, or why I
didn't take a shot at it with my

1328
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,119
rifle. At the time, that
never occurred to me to even think of

1329
01:47:03,239 --> 01:47:08,039
doing that, and in hindsight,
I wouldn't have done so. Anyway.

1330
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:12,159
It's kind of drummed into me always
to know what I'm shooting at and never

1331
01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:16,760
to aim or discharge a rifle above
a backstop. To this day, I

1332
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:21,239
don't know what it was. Primeval
fear kept me from getting closer and told

1333
01:47:21,239 --> 01:47:26,319
me to leave, and I think
a deep, unknown sixth sense told me

1334
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:30,880
something wasn't right when I arrived.
I don't know if it was my eyes

1335
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:33,800
playing tricks, but I did get
hits with the rangefinder, so this thing

1336
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:39,560
must have been solid and reflective.
It seemed to emit a light, but

1337
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:44,279
it didn't have any lights. I've
never seen anything like it again, nor

1338
01:47:44,399 --> 01:47:48,039
do I really want to. It
would be interesting if any of your followers

1339
01:47:48,079 --> 01:47:54,039
have encountered anything that fits this description. So guys, if you've seen a

1340
01:47:54,119 --> 01:47:59,560
cylinder shaped, bright, silvery something
or another in the air, comment below

1341
01:48:00,079 --> 01:48:02,960
Paul, what's going on or telling
what you've seen. I don't know,

1342
01:48:03,039 --> 01:48:08,199
that's interesting stuff to me. I
love these USO things. I've just started.

1343
01:48:09,039 --> 01:48:13,239
I posted it on Facebook. I
bought the Project Blue book series that

1344
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:17,039
the History Channel put out. I'm
actually watching it on Amazon and it is

1345
01:48:17,159 --> 01:48:21,760
awesome. It is so cool,
and it's the same kind of thing that

1346
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:28,279
Paul's talking about here. People are
seeing these weird things and even encountering creatures

1347
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:33,000
that aren't of this world. And
it's really cool. And the theme of

1348
01:48:33,039 --> 01:48:40,800
it is how people when they come
forward are bastardized and ridiculed for coming forward.

1349
01:48:41,399 --> 01:48:45,319
They are even scenes in the show
where it's like the mob gathers and

1350
01:48:45,399 --> 01:48:49,840
comes after the people. It's so
weird. I just didn't know that ever

1351
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:53,720
happened. I knew you got ridical, but I didn't know the mob got

1352
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,760
after you. But Paul's got another
thing he wanted to share, and I

1353
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,680
thought this was really good, just
as good as his story. And here's

1354
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,720
what he writes. I wanted to
give you one more short story that isn't

1355
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:10,239
a Bigfoot story, and it's not
really a UFO story. This is about

1356
01:49:10,319 --> 01:49:15,560
people who tell about what they have
seen. I've noticed the amount of decent

1357
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,199
people who are ridiculed for telling the
truth about what they saw, regardless of

1358
01:49:19,239 --> 01:49:24,359
whether it can be explained or not. A lot of these people are well

1359
01:49:24,399 --> 01:49:30,279
respected, professional people who have their
lives really affected by simply telling the truth.

1360
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,479
And that's what this story is about. Many years ago I used to

1361
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:40,560
shoot wildfol and game with a really
nice guy. He had a great sense

1362
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:45,000
of humor and the banter that he
gave and was able to take was legendary.

1363
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,640
He worked for a local farmer and
also was a part time truck driver,

1364
01:49:49,039 --> 01:49:55,159
and he worked for various hall firms
in the southeast of the United Kingdom.

1365
01:49:55,640 --> 01:50:00,399
He was ex army and served with
his original regiment in Germany and Northern

1366
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:03,680
Ireland. Then needed more of a
challenge and went for the parachute Regiment.

1367
01:50:04,119 --> 01:50:08,560
You have to beat a tough bastard
to get in that also, and you

1368
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,960
also have to be a bit mad. This was in the early nineteen eighties.

1369
01:50:14,119 --> 01:50:16,279
In nineteen eighty two, he found
himself on the way to the South

1370
01:50:16,279 --> 01:50:21,359
Atlantic on a troop ship with his
regiment in May of nineteen eighty two and

1371
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:28,880
found himself in full combat at Goose
Green during the Falklands War. After he

1372
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:32,560
left the army, he returned back
to rural life, settled down and married

1373
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:36,960
and they had a child. He
was well known in the community and very

1374
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:41,199
well liked, and was a kind
of guy who would help anyone out.

1375
01:50:42,319 --> 01:50:45,760
Over a couple of beers. One
evening he told me this story and how

1376
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:49,479
it affected his life, his work, in his marriage. In the summertime

1377
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:55,600
in the late nineteen eighties, he
was trucking freshly harvested peas with another guy

1378
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:59,800
in another truck. It was early
morning and they were driving through a r

1379
01:51:00,319 --> 01:51:05,119
area in Suffolk and heading for a
pea processing factory. As they drove down

1380
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:10,479
the quiet country roads, the sun
started to rise and in the pink and

1381
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:15,880
blue sky they saw two black triangles. They seemed to just hang silhouetted in

1382
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:21,800
the sky. He drew them and
they were Isaceles triangles. He said,

1383
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:26,720
you could even see the heat haze
coming off of them. He got on

1384
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,079
his cib to the other driver and
said, do you see them? What

1385
01:51:30,119 --> 01:51:33,159
the hell are they? The other
drivers said screw this, and they both

1386
01:51:33,199 --> 01:51:38,840
floored the trucks and didn't stop until
they reached the truck stop twenty miles away.

1387
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:43,760
He said they both felt shook up
and told other truckers what they had

1388
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:48,000
seen. This was a big mistake. At no point did they ever say

1389
01:51:48,159 --> 01:51:54,479
UFO or spaceship or aliens. They
just described what they had seen in the

1390
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:59,319
sky that morning, and they received
a fair amount of ridicule. And it

1391
01:51:59,359 --> 01:52:04,800
didn't stop there. It spread like
wildfire and it never ended. They both

1392
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:11,640
were accused of drinking on the job
and being mentally unbalanced. They lost work

1393
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:15,199
through the ordeal. They just weren't
hired by any of the haulage companies.

1394
01:52:16,079 --> 01:52:20,119
Every time he went into town,
someone would draw an alien face on his

1395
01:52:20,159 --> 01:52:26,720
car in the dust or whistle the
close encounters theme. It was the same

1396
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,399
in the local pub. You would
think that a tough guy like him could

1397
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:34,079
take it, and that it could
only go on for so long, but

1398
01:52:34,159 --> 01:52:40,279
it stopped being banter or a joke, and it simply turned into harassment.

1399
01:52:41,359 --> 01:52:45,319
One day he had had enough and
he punched one of his hecklers. Unfortunately,

1400
01:52:45,359 --> 01:52:50,199
that got him his shotgun certificate.
Revoked over it. I can't stress

1401
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:56,239
how constant it was. The other
driver moved away because of the bullying.

1402
01:52:56,399 --> 01:53:00,279
Also, in nineteen ninety one,
when the First Gulf War started, it

1403
01:53:00,359 --> 01:53:06,159
suddenly became clear to him what he
had actually seen on television. The United

1404
01:53:06,199 --> 01:53:13,479
States Air Force rolled out the F
one seventeen stealth Fighter. What he and

1405
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:17,319
the other driver had seen was these
aircraft coming into land at an air base

1406
01:53:17,359 --> 01:53:23,079
in Suffolk. Even when he explained
to people that's what he had seen,

1407
01:53:23,319 --> 01:53:29,119
it never mattered and the harassment never
stopped. I last saw him in the

1408
01:53:29,159 --> 01:53:32,760
mid nineteen nineties when he was running
aid out for the United Nations to the

1409
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:38,760
Balklands War. I heard he met
a Bosnian woman who was from Germany and

1410
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:43,119
moved out there after the war.
He was a good friend and a great

1411
01:53:43,239 --> 01:53:47,199
guy and really didn't deserve what he
got for simply telling the truth. Paul

1412
01:53:47,279 --> 01:53:51,920
signs off here. Paul, I
know, I have never experienced that kind

1413
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:57,960
of harassment or I catch some crap. When Bigfoot comes up in a discussion.

1414
01:53:58,119 --> 01:54:00,359
You know, people always get that
little grin, and I do too.

1415
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,800
I laugh with him and I make
it fun. There's no sense in

1416
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:09,720
taking all this stuff too serious.
But that's quite different than being harassed by

1417
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:14,680
a bunch of blokes in your town
who just hammer you constantly about something that

1418
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:19,119
you talked about and you even he
never even said they were UFOs or aliens

1419
01:54:19,199 --> 01:54:24,159
or spacecraft or anything. He just
said he saw triangles in the sky.

1420
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:28,880
So I think here's the moral to
this. Be careful what you tell people.

1421
01:54:30,199 --> 01:54:33,119
I know it seems and I know
there are a lot of people out

1422
01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:38,760
there, you know, trying to
encouraging people to come forward and all.

1423
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:43,319
But I would encourage you to think
it through. And I would also encourage

1424
01:54:43,359 --> 01:54:47,159
you to maybe leave your name off
of it, because it saying your name

1425
01:54:48,119 --> 01:54:54,000
in one of these stories does not
help advance the Bigfoot calls. It just

1426
01:54:54,079 --> 01:54:59,359
doesn't. It just puts your reputation
in jeopardy, in my opinion. And

1427
01:54:59,439 --> 01:55:03,000
so you know, I don't ever
read I don't ever even read last names.

1428
01:55:03,039 --> 01:55:06,359
I'm not going to put anybody in
that position. If they say they

1429
01:55:06,359 --> 01:55:09,800
don't want their name used, I
don't even say their first name. But

1430
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:13,560
usually if they give me both of
them, I'll just like this fellow here

1431
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:15,439
that wrote me, his name is
Paul. I know his last name,

1432
01:55:15,439 --> 01:55:18,640
but I'm not going to tell you
what it is, but anyway, it's

1433
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:25,399
a great couple of stories there and
good insights and good anecdotes for people to

1434
01:55:25,439 --> 01:55:27,560
hear. And I loved it.
Paul, Thanks for sending it. I

1435
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:32,319
really enjoyed it. Thanks man.
Here's an email from Edward, and here's

1436
01:55:32,359 --> 01:55:39,279
what Edward writes. This took place
in late twenty and eighteen. It started

1437
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:45,840
in deepfall and continued into late December. I live in northeastern Ohio, and

1438
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:49,680
my dogs were going ballistic every night
for over two months in late twenty and

1439
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:55,920
eighteen. I had seen signs of
the presence of something, but was unsure

1440
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:59,399
of what it was. And to
be honest, I really wasn't paying attention

1441
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:03,319
and it didn't occur to me at
the time what I was seeing. I

1442
01:56:03,439 --> 01:56:08,439
was mowing the grass in the very
late fall of twenty eighteen when I passed

1443
01:56:08,479 --> 01:56:13,640
a large, matted down spot in
the tall grass. It was probably about

1444
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:18,239
fifteen feet in diameter. I didn't
see any tracks or trails leading into or

1445
01:56:18,319 --> 01:56:23,720
out of it, so I brushed
it off as deer habitat. Every single

1446
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:28,199
night, within five minutes of the
lights getting turned off, my German shepherds

1447
01:56:28,239 --> 01:56:32,399
would go to the door and peer
out and growl and start barking. That

1448
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:35,720
went on for what seemed like it
was going to be an eternity, and

1449
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:40,680
I didn't think I was ever going
to get any sleep. I never heard

1450
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:44,720
any sounds, and I don't have
a sense of smell. It's a hereditary

1451
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:48,680
thing. My grandfather couldn't smell,
and my brother's daughter can't either, so

1452
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:55,279
I didn't smell anything. And winter
was kicking in. It was getting cold.

1453
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:59,439
The dogs still weren't letting up,
and during the daytime I kept a

1454
01:56:59,479 --> 01:57:02,600
pretty good on them because we have
had a bunch of missing cats and dogs

1455
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:08,479
in this area recently. The same
thing happened back in the eighties and a

1456
01:57:08,479 --> 01:57:12,920
couple of guys were caught stealing people's
pets and selling them on the market for

1457
01:57:13,079 --> 01:57:16,960
animal food and all kinds of nasty
stuff. So that's what I figured was

1458
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:21,479
going on. I was very watchful, and I would call them in several

1459
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:26,399
times throughout the day and in the
evening, just to keep an eye on

1460
01:57:26,439 --> 01:57:30,479
them. Then I saw a video
where a man's dog became the target of

1461
01:57:30,479 --> 01:57:36,720
absisquatch because the dog was constantly giving
away its position and something inside me clicked,

1462
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:41,039
and I just knew there was more
to this than just a small herd

1463
01:57:41,039 --> 01:57:45,079
of deer sleeping there and traversing back
and forth. So I decided to load

1464
01:57:45,159 --> 01:57:48,960
up a rifle and leave it by
my bed until I managed to get rid

1465
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:55,359
of whatever was coming around. My
wife insisted that it was a coyote because

1466
01:57:55,399 --> 01:57:59,479
the year before we had a rather
large one come into the area in broad

1467
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:03,199
daylight and it wasn't at all afraid
of us. The rifle I was using

1468
01:58:03,239 --> 01:58:08,439
had a red laser sight on the
end of it and a dot site up

1469
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:14,840
top for quick tactics and a pinch. Then, on December second, twenty

1470
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,800
eighteen, around two am, I
turned out the lights and I laid down

1471
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:21,640
in bed to wait, And sure
enough, within minutes, my dogs rushed

1472
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:27,079
to the door and started barking like
crazy, But this time they were growling

1473
01:58:27,199 --> 01:58:30,039
like I've never heard them growl before, so I knew something was out there.

1474
01:58:31,399 --> 01:58:34,520
I sat up part way in bed
with the rifle in hand, and

1475
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:39,279
I waited and watched, and sure
enough, in the midst of that cold

1476
01:58:39,359 --> 01:58:45,600
wind and rainstorm, I saw an
almost man shaped, very dark outline figure

1477
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:50,439
step quietly and smoothly up to the
kennel fence and stand there for a moment.

1478
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:55,800
Our kennel is six feet tall and
this creature was a good two and

1479
01:58:55,800 --> 01:59:00,479
a half feet taller and was about
four feet wide at the shoulders. I

1480
01:59:00,479 --> 01:59:04,079
couldn't make out any details, just
its basic shape. I think we call

1481
01:59:04,199 --> 01:59:10,399
those blob squatches. I moved to
put the rifle up to my shoulder and

1482
01:59:10,439 --> 01:59:15,039
it obviously saw me because it backed
off into the darkness again right away,

1483
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:20,960
but still silently and really smoothly,
almost like it was floating. It rained

1484
01:59:21,119 --> 01:59:25,520
like the days of Noah for a
couple of days, and I never thought

1485
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:29,119
to even look for prints in the
mud, but I'm pretty sure there weren't

1486
01:59:29,159 --> 01:59:32,279
any after the heavy rains. Anyway. Well, it's not much of an

1487
01:59:32,399 --> 01:59:36,560
encounter, but still enough to make
me sleep with a rifle within arm's reach.

1488
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:42,680
Not much puts fear into me,
and this squatch didn't either, but

1489
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,840
it probably would have if things would
have gotten ugly, and I would be

1490
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:51,199
reporting a dead sisquatch because I won't
miss when it comes to protecting my family,

1491
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:56,640
and my dogs are like my kids. I love them that much,

1492
01:59:56,960 --> 02:00:00,760
so they get the same protection from
me as my son and wife would Edward,

1493
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:05,199
that's a cool story. Excuse me, that's a you know, just

1494
02:00:05,239 --> 02:00:10,039
send a figure out there in the
rain man. That gives me the willies.

1495
02:00:11,399 --> 02:00:14,239
Apparently it was close enough where you
could tell it was taller than the

1496
02:00:14,279 --> 02:00:16,800
fence and how wide it was.
Anyway, that's a great story, buddy.

1497
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:21,439
I appreciate you sending it. Thanks. If you made it to the

1498
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:27,000
end of this podcast, would you
leave a comment say something like I made

1499
02:00:27,039 --> 02:00:30,840
it to the end or whatever.
I doubt many people do because it's so

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02:00:30,039 --> 02:00:33,319
long, but I really wanted to
put a bunch of them together for people

1501
02:00:33,399 --> 02:00:38,880
driving and people laying around on the
couch this weekend. That's the purpose of

1502
02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:42,239
this podcast. But if you made
it all the way to what you're hearing

1503
02:00:42,319 --> 02:00:45,560
right now, drop a comment and
say that you made it to the end.

1504
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:48,079
I'd love to see how many people
do. So I appreciate you listening.

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02:00:48,079 --> 02:01:08,520
We'll see you guys on the next
one. Thanks. Would the
