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Welcomeboard, Welcome to another Space City
Saturday on Sports Talk seven ninety Dan Matthews

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Live and local h Town breakdown of
the world that matters to you, the

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Houston sports world. All these great
Houston fans here. We love y'all.

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So finish up on that to do
list. Slute up the cooler, because

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you can't drink in talk sports all
day if you don't start. Now bear

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me the eight. This is Space
City Saturday. It's insane. Here's seven

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nineties Dan Matthews. Welcome in the
Space City Saturday. Dan Matthews here with

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you. Away we go as the
draft days one and two are done.

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As the Texans make three selections yesterday
as they go with Kamari Laster out of

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Georgia at number forty two, Notre
Dame offensive tackle Blake Fisher at number fifty

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nine, and Kaylin Bullock there at
number seventy eight. So the Texans now

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have a defensive back two of them
in their fold. Also an offensive tackle

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there in Blake Fisher as well.
So see what they do a little bit

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later on today, and just to
kind of get things started here in the

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show today, normally you know that
we are mostly astros intensive in the first

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hour, but let's call it what
it is. One team right now seemingly

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has the interest of you all,
and that is the team that does not

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even end season. They are the
ones who are building up their roster at

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this moment as the Texans, you
know, have the draft yesterday, but

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also to a strong free agency,
the Jersey reveal and now a chance for

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them to be able to try to
build off the momentum that they had last

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season. So you know, that
is something that they are trying to do,

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and you know, in terms of
what they have done so far,

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it seemingly is growing rave reviews,
although for the most part people were not

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very I guess Nick Cassario not too
much for the praise of the off season,

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which, hey, we talked about
it last week. That's up to

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him if that's what he wants to
do, but that is where most of

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the conversation in the first hour is
going to go. The Astros, though,

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are in Mexico City to face the
Rockies four o'clock Astros on deck with

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Ross Villa Reale, and we will
get into that a little bit later on

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as the show goes along, as
well. A couple of interviews from this

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week. So you know that here
on Space City Saturday, the last few

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weeks we've had some live guests,
some cases haven't even had guests at all,

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all of the above everything in between. So in this case right here,

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a couple of really good guests.
So last night, if you're listening

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to us here on Sports Talk seven
ninety, it was Brent Rollins, my

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good buddy from ugasports dot Com,
joining us with me Adam Wexler Stan Norfleet

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after the Texans had made their first
pick of the night to go with Kamari

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Laster, and I felt it was
important to get Brent on. Brent.

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If you don't know who he is, follow him on Twitter at Brent Rollins

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PhD because he legit has a PhD
an adjunct professor. I believe that Athens

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Community College there in the Athens area, but also too good buddies with David

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Pollock coaches with him. But Brent
is as bright a football mind as I

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know. And if you go over
to ugasports dot com, the rival site

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there does all their film breakdowns,
x's and o's, everything of the sorts,

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So I knew immediately who to get
in touch with last night when it

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comes to drafting a player, because
that's the thing too, is that you

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can sometimes, you know, get
a beat writer for a team that will

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know the x's and o's everything of
the sort. But a lot of times

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too, it's great to go with
somebody who you know, you know is

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a film person and somebody that can
be able to break that down. So

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that is why we tab Brent,
so bottom of this hour you're gonna hear

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from Brent. And also to another
reason why we're going majority of Texans here

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in the first hour is round four
is gonna get going here at the top

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of the eleven o'clock hour here locally, so be able to get in all

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the Texans conversation there and update you
as to what is going on in Detroit

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for the draft as the eleven o'clock
hour happens. But once that happens,

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though, get into a little bit
more astros as bottom of next hour or

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we are going to have the visit. Part of the visit that we had

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with Jeff Blum yesterday on the A
team thought he had some really good stuff.

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By the way, to take a
second here, Happy belated birthday,

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Jeff Blum. So Blummer celebrating a
nice little birthday down there and see you

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Dodd Day, Mexico. So good
for him, and now it is up

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to the Astros to kind of turn
this thing around. I mean, you

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know, we've heard all of the
things. We've got the players, we

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you know, we we've got the
team, we've got all of this.

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Well, you know, this is
kind of soon enough becoming kind of a

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bad relationship in terms of we And
here's what I mean by this. In

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terms of what they've done the last
few years. It's been awesome, it's

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been amazing. There's there's nothing more
that we could ask for out of the

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Astros in what they've been able to
do so far to this point. But

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also though too, I mean,
this is where you're kind of getting tired

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of hearing your spouse or whoever it
is, if you're unhappy and the relationships

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say, oh, I'll change,
I'll get better, I'll be who I

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used to be, all all of
those things, and you know, soon

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enough you reach a point where you've
just had it and it doesn't matter what

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words are being said, all of
those different things. I think it's kind

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of exactly what we talked about the
last few weeks of you want to almost

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kind of stand in front of the
Astros and shake them and say, figure

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it out, find a way,
get it done. All of those different

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things you want to say to them, because the truth of the matter is,

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let's call it what it is.
I posted the video the other day

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where I said the answer is yes
to what are the issues with the Astros?

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Is it the hitting? Is it
the pitching? And I said yes,

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but I'm going to amend it.
The hitting is wearing the stronger of

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the blame game right now, one
thousand percent they are. Because you saw

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the graphics the other day if you
were watching the game on Space City are

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a Space City home network and one
of them showing runners in scoring position hose

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a L two V. I believe
it was point zero seven seven. So

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you know, of all the things, and this isn't just an now two

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a thing. It's just an example
with him. But you know, oh,

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look at his numbers. Oh he's
hitting three fifty a lot of week

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contact. You know, so many
home runs, all solos, and you

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know all these RBIs again solo home
runs. And also to the two runs

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that he knocked in against the Rangers
where the only ones that he's had with

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runners in the scoring position this year, Jordan Alvarez has continued to struggle and

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so much to the point where finally
they moved him. So we you know,

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we now you know, have seen
the lineup switch a little bit.

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But you know it's also two here
to a certain point where you know,

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these guys we want to hear about
the back of the you know what,

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We're not going to go all the
way through Matt Thomas, but you know

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we want to hear about all of
that. Well, then soon enough it

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has to show up. I mean, like that's the part of it that's

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the most frustrating of all of this
as well, is hearing you know,

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oh, we've got the guys,
Oh, we can do all of this.

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Well, then soon enough, with
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how about someone lose a baseball over
the wall, or how about someone find

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a baseline, hit it down the
baseline and a couple runs score. Like

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that's what soon enough people want to
see in here. They want to stop

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hearing about the Oh, we've got
the guys in this room. Oh,

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you know, we'll figure it out. We'll get it going. We better

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figure it out fast, and you
better figure it out pretty quickly, because

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soon enough, May becomes June,
then June becomes July, then July becomes

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August, then August becomes September and
somewhere in between there. If you don't

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have it figured out, it's way
too late. And the only saving grace

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is that the other teams in the
division are not completely running away with this

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thing. So maybe that is a
little bit of something with the Astros that

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you can point to and you can
say, all right, you know things

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aren't great right now, but they
could be a whole lot worse. As

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last night the Rangers and the Mariners
won. So the Mariners now seven games

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in front of the Astros, the
Astros all the way in last right now,

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three whole games behind the behind the
Angels. So you know, we've

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wanted to hear about. You know, this is a chance for them to

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be able to make up some ground. I mean, you know they're not

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playing a tough schedule anymore. Well
this not as tough schedule. They're one

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in five right now, so it
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where you're allowed to be frustrated.
And I think you can hear it from

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my voice that you're one hundred percent
allowed to be frustrated with the lack of

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really production and just you know,
lack of energy that this team has shown.

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And the manager the other day even
talked about it, We've got to

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have fire in the middle of the
in the middle of the game, and

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back to the hitters portion of it
all. And I know that I mentioned

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a couple of names, but I
mean, you know, I'm seeing people

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after the game the other day say, oh, of course it's Montero and

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a bray You again, guys the
bullpen all season long. Yes, have

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they lost some leads and have they
not come through in certain situations, Sure,

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but it's not as much as the
other one. It is not the

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other part of this relationship. And
honestly, it's also too you know,

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people get tired of hearing terms like
complimentary football, complimentary baseball, and there

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is that in sports. You do
have to have it, but they're also

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too at times where you have to
have the pitching say hey, I guess

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it's on us. We gotta win
this one. Just like in football,

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if the offense isn't on that day, then the defense has to be the

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ones to stand up and they have
to be the ones to be able to

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help you win that ball game.
And the same deal goes in baseball as

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well, is maybe some days you're
gonna facing a really good pitcher or your

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hitters just aren't feeling it and you're
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Then they you know, pitching staff
has to try to be able to hold

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onto that. But the problem is
the pitching staff has been able to has

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been trying to hold onto leads for
a very long time. And I mean,

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you're doing a flying with Linda flying
will Linda act here, and I

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hate to tell you not all the
flying wine does have gotten all the way

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to the other side on the high
wire there. So you get my point

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here that you can't keep putting your
pictures in these situations where you know you

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only give them a one run lead, or you know you've only scored two

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runs in the game. I mean, you know last weekend a case in

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point with them against the Nationals is
oh, well, you know Ryan Presley

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should close out that game. Granted
he should, but I agree with what

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Gordy had said in the tenth inning
on the tenth Inning Show on Sunday,

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how many chances did they have to
be able to add on in those games,

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and that's something that the Astros had
done so well in the past,

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and that it's just just mind boggling
frustrating with this team that they just cannot

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find a way to be able to
add on. Like it's almost kind of

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to a point where a mental governor
comes on in their brain of all right,

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that's enough runs, Like it used
to not be the case. It

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used to be. Hey, they
had a two run lead, Well we

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could use some insurance, pal,
how about a four five run inning right

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there? All right, that's very
nice, Like I'm not asking for all

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of that, but I am asking
for you to be able to exactly as

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Joe A. Spot has said the
other day, have a little fire,

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have a little juice, and have
a little you know, at least at

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least some urgency in terms of,
hey, if we keep losing like this,

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then this is over. And here's
the last part of it. Stop

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getting swept Like, honestly to the
point like how many times do you have

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to get punched in the face for
you to finally wake up and say,

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hey, this sucks, this is
not fun, this is not enjoyable.

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To come to the park every day
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Like I understand, there's so much
more that goes into it that you're trying

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to win ball games. But at
the same time though too as well,

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like you know, we want to
hear about the back of the you know

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what, and we want to hear
about, oh, we've got the guys

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in the clubhouse. Hey, guess
what. Soon enough you have to show

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it for us to continue to believe
in you. And that's the frustration that

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Astros fans have. If you go
to Astros Twitter right now, they post

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anything you see exactly what the mentions
are from people right now. So hopefully

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the day off yesterday has helped hopefully
them in Mexico City. I mean,

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let's call it what it is.
We've said all of these things so far

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at this point in the season,
and as you can tell, it is

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kind of frustrating to continue to be
a broken record here. So guess who

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can help that The guys who are
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in Mexico City and go out there. You're facing a team that just had

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a nice win and come from behind
fashion against the San Diego Padres. The

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other day in the Colorado Rockies,
so it's not necessarily just a pushover for

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them. But at the same time
though too, I mean, you know,

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you hear about how good this ball
club is. Oh, we've got

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great players in here, all right, Well, then go out there and

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show it. So Renelle Blanco again, hopefully he is the magic elixir for

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them as he has been for much
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a one three three era Cal Quantrill, the former Cleveland Guardian to go for

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the Colorado Rockies zero to two with
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A. Again that one coming your
way a little bit later on Ross Hill

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Real can to have the Astros on
deck for you coming up at four o'clock,

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so we'll get back into the Texans
conversation coming up next. As the

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Texans last night making their selections and
a member of the Texans brass said something

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last night that tells me all I
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Saturday continues by Sports Talk seven ninety
with the forty second pick in the twenty

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twenty four NFL Draft, the Houston
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the fifty ninety pick. In the
twenty twenty four NFL Draft, the Houston

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Texans select Blake Fisher tackle Notre Dame
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twenty twenty four NFL Draft, the
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USC. So there you go,
hearing it all from Christian Harris, and

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I believe is her name, Gail
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third round picks as the Texans make
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a little bit of a breakdown too. I mean, obviously with Kamari Lasster

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know a little bit more about him
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Kaylin Bullock as well. But with
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we'll actually give you a scouting report
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ten minutes. As we had a
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myself, Adam Wexler and Stan Norfleet
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dot Com, So we will play
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ten minutes, but the Texans going
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And last night after the draft,
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As you know, I gotta tell
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of things here from Casarrio before we
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I mean, just watching and listening
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with the media. Number one,
it looked like that sleep had been optional

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for Nick, and he sounded like
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been a long day for him.
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got finished with that, maybe a
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right, let's go home get some
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be a sleep on the couch and
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and maybe that is what the order
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self effacing it was kind of nice
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about he wasn't going to do the
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things this time, that he'd get
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you know, pretty pretty fair in
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So good stuff from Nick Cassario last
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talk about, though, really I
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fire you up, and that is
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of the guys. A few weeks
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with Will Anderson Junior as he and
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to the media before the team started
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that made a lot of sense now
where he said, we're not for everybody

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and they're not for us. And
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we've got a standard, we have
a culture here now that we can't

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just let anybody in the building here. And Nick Cassario kind of, you

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know, I went even further on
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fans, when you hear this,
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We don't have a crystal ball,
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make any predetermined decisions about a player's
role, who fits where. Honestly,

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the competition will sort itself out.
I think what we've done, what we

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hopefully have done is just create a
sense urgency, and you have to play

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well and perform well in order to
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don't, then we have to keep
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we put the practice wide together.
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you know, and I think that
a lot of people hear that and

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say, oh, well, one
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Made Park, why don't they have
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most part, they have. And
that's not where I'm going with this.

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But where I'm going with this is
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strong vision for what he wants this
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embody. And I would say that
more often than not, we see this

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type of relationship in college where you
hear about it all the time that the

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most successful college football programs have three
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with each other. The head coach
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the AD is in line with the
university president, and they're all on the

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same page in terms of all right, hey, this is what makes this

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university better. Let's do this,
and let's go this direction. We need

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to raise money for this facility,
all right, let's do that. All

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right, we need to raise money
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recruiting lounge. Fine, yeah,
let's let's do all of that in this

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case. Right here, this sounds
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Demiko Ryans in terms of the type
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but also too what's expected of them
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I remember all last year, you
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asked about guys you know that might
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all of it, and his messaging
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got here towards the end of it. I think I got here before the

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final preseason game is when I moved
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an availability and somebody asked him.
I think it was after Kenyon Green got

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hurt. Where you know, what
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the roster of fifty three and we got

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to go. We got to go
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you know, we've got to be
able to you know, put guys on

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the field with the expectation that they're
gonna make plays, and that is you

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know exactly what's expected if you're gonna
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by me. And it went even
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mean, you know, week ten, whenever it was you ask about whenever

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you had that rash of injuries of
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and Jonathan Grenard, as well as
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Nico Collins. You had a rash
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That's whatevery NFL team has to deal
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the messaging was the same. Yeah, you had to meek O Ryan seeing

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the exact same thing we got.
We've got to go to work with the

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guy we got. And I mean
you just heard Nick Cassario right there what

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he just said about. You know, there's an expectation in this building.

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You play well, well, chances
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fifty three man roster. You don't
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are we're going to look somewhere else
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And if that's with another NFL team, or if it's out of the league,

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that's kind of up to you at
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it's just refreshing to hear things like
that. And it's also too, just

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refreshing that seemingly there is a strong
vision over there at NRG Stadium. I

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mean, I think that the last
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when it was Gary Kubiak and Rick
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And you know, that's when this
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the AFC South, but also too
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that they had a chance to be
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And obviously that never happened because the
New England Patriots seemingly wanted to always be

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there in a divisional round and say, hey, yeah remember us, you

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know us, Yeah, you're not
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are trying to solve the riddle that
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I mean, you know, that
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to hear last night from Nick Cassio, that kind of it was a pared

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down version of what we had talked
about last week in terms of just kind

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of his combative approach. But I
loved hearing it where he had talked about,

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you know, yeah, we've made
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of that, but also too,
you know, those guys in Kansas City

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are still pretty good, those guys
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mean, just going down the list
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have to try to overcome. And
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of wonder if you know, somebody
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him and said, hey, a
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messaging is on point. I think
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maybe expand on that a little bit
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last night of Nick Cassio, you
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just what the you know, Texans
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to have a strong season, and
he said some of those things last week,

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but I felt like that was the
more measured approach to come to it,

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where it's a you know, it's
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where I think now it's at least
it's explanatory, and you've laid out the

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why you're kind of, you know, pumping the brakes in terms of,

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you know, believing that this team
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Two. Yes, win in the
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Game and then have a chance to
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the entire thing. And I appreciate
that he was like exactly what he said.

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The competition in this conference is pretty
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those guys on our schedule this year, and if we're going to try to

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prove that we belong with those guys, well then we got to beat those

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guys. And I thought that was
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good stuff from him right there.
And of course you got the draft montage

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there at the beginning of the show. A little bit later on in the

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show, I will give you a
little bit more on what I found out

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about these three guys. Again,
with the Texans going with Kamari Lassiter as

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well as Blake Fisher, and also
going with Kaylin Bullock, a safety out

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of USC, we had a chance
to talk about all of them yesterday.

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We also had a chance to talk
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ugasports dot Com. So, as
I've mentioned now a couple of times in

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the show, we will hear from
him next as he joined us on the

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Draft Show presented by carbok which,
by the way, shout out Carbock Brewing.

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I appreciate them dropping off some goodies
for us last night, and that

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was definitely nice. When you get
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draft audio to cut and maybe even
some of the things to get ready for

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here on Space City Saturday. So
my friends at Carbock Brewing, you were

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a great companion last night. We'll
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of wind down the day a little
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doing that and their partnership with us, not only on the Astros with Crawford

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Baca, everything of the sort,
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night stepping up helping us out with
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Northfleet. So you'll hear all of
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we continue along here on Space City
Saturday. As I'm Dan Matthews here on

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your home are the Astros in the
Rockets. Sports Talk seven to ninety It's

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Space City Saturday on Sports Talk seven
night. As we continue along here on

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a windy Saturday, where's all this
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I do the show right now,
looking out the window and you know,

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just seeing the trees just you know, whipping back and forth, and you

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know, had some of the patio
furniture fall over, so I had to

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try to fix that. But anyway, try to stay upright if you are

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moving out and about today here in
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here in Houston, had a chance
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Georgia where I used to be and
a guy that got to know really well

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because well at Georgia games when I
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he was the man directly to my
right for every game. So struck up

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a friendship over the years with Brent
Rolins of ugasports dot Com. As Brent

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does the x's and o's for the
group that is headed up by Rodding to

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Bolsey and the crew over there for
the rivals site, he joined us last

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night on the draft coverage, which
again you just heard car Box say proud

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sponsor of Sports Talk seven ninety.
They were a proud sponsor up us last

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night on the Draft Show, myself
Adam Wesler and also Stan Norfleet. So

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without any further ado, let's get
a Kamari Lasser scouting report from Brent Rolins

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ugasports dot com. We take it
to Georgia Brent Rollins, who does great

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work for rivals analyzing this particular school
and others inside the SEC. Brent,

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we certainly appreciate your time spending here
with our listeners here in Houston and via

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the iHeartRadio app wherever they might be. Your initial thoughts on what Kamari Lassiter

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the NFL player will be from what
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role at Georgia actually might be a
little different than his role in the NFL

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because at Georgia and he was primarily
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played except for really one game and
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I could see him starting out because
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much long speed and the quickness strengths, and I could see him starting out

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in the slot in the NFL.
But physical player, just an absolute dog

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is the corner. Great as a
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in terms of Pro Football Focus grades, one of the highest graded run defending

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corners in the country. Just an
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stepping forward to the NFL. Brent, welcome to Houston. Appreciate you joining

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us. Stand Northfleet here, and
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come up from our audience. Okay, Stam, we know he's a two

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time national champion Georgia. How many
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we saw what he did. And
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do we explain the lack of quantifiable
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in PBUs. You know, that's
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will say. I think this year
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a big step up in terms of
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had five pass breakups but non interceptions
this past season. But a lot of

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that I think has to do with
how Georgia coaches their defensive backs, and

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they coach in a way that they're
physical but also not necessarily physical to the

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point and trying to do things where
they get the offense in hand an eventantage

412
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and you know, sort of playing
up through the ball, knocking the ball

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out versus truly finding the ball.
There's a couple of great reps from Lasster.

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I think one against Kentucky that I
remember specifically, where did a phenomenal

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job of actually turning and finding the
ball with something that you don't normally see

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from Georgia corners. But I think
it's as much to do with how they're

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taught is anything. But also think
with him and that's why I think he

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ends up in the slot is arm
length and hand size, Like he's just

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he's like twenty fifth percentI in terms
of arm length, hand size. Great.

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So that's a lot of it's a
combination of factors, but I think

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he's going to be a dog in
the slot. And that's like if you

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look back and I think, if
you're a Texans fan, he wants say,

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all right, what game do I
want to go watch him? Specifically,

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it's the Missouri game this past year
for Georgia because that was a game

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where Luther Burden early on established himself
as like, hey, I'm going to

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be a force in this game.
And they put Kamari Laster in the slot

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in that game and then with a
little tweak of a knee or ankle,

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but also Laster on him the rest
of the game, in essence kind of

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faded away and didn't do much of
anything the rest of the game. Brent

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Rollins again UGA sports dot Com join
us here on Sports Talk seven to ninety.

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Brent, can he just kind of
fill in, you know, the

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audience here who doesn't watch Georgia as
closely, just exactly what Kirby Smart and

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that defensive staff asked for out of
their guys in the secondary, as much

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as they ask of any player on
the team, honestly, because there's a

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couple of things with when you get
a Georgia defensive back. One is you

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got a kid who's used to playing
every snap of the game. Georgia has

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their five dbs and it's not like, hey, you know, every other

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series a different corner comes out.
No, they're five guys, the four,

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two corners, two safeties, and
nickel. They stay on the field.

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They're always the sort of leaders in
the clubhouse in terms of snaps played

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for Georgia's defense, So you got
a guy who used to be on the

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field the entire game. You got
a guy who can play both and man.

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00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.000
When they had like Eric STOs Stokes
and Tyson Campbell, who are high

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draft picks, they played a lot
more man. But over the past couple

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of years they've really split the sort
of man zone split more towards what you

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see in the NFL, and thus
you get corners that are equally adept at

447
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:25.200
playing both man and zone. The
other part with I think every Georgia corner,

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if you can't play physical, bubble
screens, tackling in the run game,

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you're just not going to play.
And you've seen highly rated recruits transfer

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away from Georgia because they just couldn't
meet that physical standard that Kirby Smart demands

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00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.920
of his DB's, especially as corners. Well, Brett, while I'm not

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expecting the Texans to dip into the
Georgia secondary a second time, relatively early

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after the first time, but if
they do, what would you tell people

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here about Javon Bullard their safety versaal
I think he's like to me a comp

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00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.359
for him would be Antoine Winningfield junior
in terms of a pro comp size,

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speed, similar, just aggressiveness absolute, just doesn't care for his body and

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will put his body in anywhere in
anywhere that is needed, and smart and

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I will say he's one that in
terms of over his career, had a

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little more sort of ball production than
you typically see making plays on the ball,

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especially in the slot. Now,
I think he wasn't as quite,

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00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.039
it wasn't as good this past year. He was really good, but I

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think he was even better the previous
season in twenty twenty two in the slot.

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I think it's more his natural position, but the ability to play both

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00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.440
slot and safety, much like last
year, can play both outside corner and

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in the slot a bowler gives you
that position of versatility of slot and safety

466
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:54.759
as well. Last one for me, Brent, I think about something sticks

467
00:32:54.759 --> 00:33:00.039
out of my head whenever Demico speaks
and he talks about personnel. Character of

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00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:05.720
the person Personal character is just as
important as your football character. What can

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00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.799
you share with us about Kamari Lassid
to the individual of the family, what

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type of stock does he come from? I think that's one of the things

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that for the most part, you
can kind of blanket statement that to anybody

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that comes from Georgie's program because it's
one of the things that they've done from

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a recruiting standpoint over the past few
years where they obviously target, you know,

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and get highly ranked guys and get
a lot of them, and you

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00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:36.559
know, they get number one type
recruiting classes. But it's very specific based

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upon the character things and the human
that you're talking about. And also think

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about George's practices, like there's just
mountains of scouts and coaches who talk about

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the physicality of their practices. And
thus, if you get a kid who's

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been there for three years and survived
and also then thrived in that environment,

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you're getting a professional. And you're
also, by the way, the biggest

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00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.000
thing that and this is something that
goes untalked about, I think a lot,

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00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:14.280
but Kirby smart does this at least
almost double digit times per practice is

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harping on how hard you play on
special teams. And last there was always

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00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:22.840
a special teams contributor those kids,
Every single kid there knows exactly what the

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00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.280
NFL veteran minimum is for a specialty
to be on special teams and play in

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the league. Because Kirby wants kids
who care about special teams as much as

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00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.400
he does because and you look across
their roster, it's starters everywhere on special

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00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.920
teams. Well, Brent, we
certainly appreciate the time Brent Rollins from UGA

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sports dot com and via the X
platform you can find Brent's work at Brent

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00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:51.840
Rollins p HD. Really appreciate the
insight and continued good luck with the next

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and next and next and next Georgia
player that gets drafted. There's gonna be

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a few more, not as many
of this year as your past years.

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But thank you very much for having
me on BRIGID and I believe all total

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00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:08.039
last night if my math is correct, which if you've listened to enough Space

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00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.679
City Saturday, you know that math
is not really my thing, but I

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00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.239
do my best. Uh. Four
more Georgia players taken last night. As

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00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:22.280
we heard about Javon Bullard and that
was something that you heard with him going

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00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.960
to the Green Bay Packers. Well, I think if you remember, and

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we'll play the cut a little bit
later on Kamari last with a great line

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about not having the face CJ.
Stroud anymore. Probably one of the best

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00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.960
football games, period that I've ever
seen, was that Chick fil A Peach

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Bowl a couple of years ago in
Atlanta between Georgia and Ohio State. It

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was the National Championship game. I
mean I think we saw it. Sorry

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00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.039
TCU fans, I know there's a
lot of frogs out there listening, but

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00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.000
what we saw at Sofi Stadium on
that Monday night was not the game that

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00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.559
this one was in Atlanta for the
semi final game. It was just a

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00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:04.880
shame honestly that. I mean,
how much just amazing TV would that have

508
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:09.440
been in LA between Georgia and Ohio
State for the national title game? Like

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that would have been. I almost
think it could have been pretty close to

510
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what we still talk about to this
day of USC in Texas and that two

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thousand and five season, two thousand
and six Rose Bowl that they had.

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But still, you know, talking
about the many players taken, well,

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you know, we always like to
do the total board, and every single

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year it's the SEC and everyone else
in terms of the total amount of picks.

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00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:43.760
But Pro Football Focused College PFF underscore
college on Twitter a couple of hours

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00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:47.480
ago, most players selected by school
right now, the ones with the most

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00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:52.280
well, oddly enough, they were
the ones in the National Championship game here

518
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:58.480
in Houston last year, Michigan and
Washington both with seven players a piece,

519
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:04.119
and the usual suspect there and tied
for third right behind them Alabama, Florida

520
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:08.119
State, Georgia with all six apiece. Here's the one the fans of the

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00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:13.480
ones on the forty Acres, Texas
with five. And that's actually gonna lead

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me into the next segment, because
coming up next, it's just another example

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00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:22.599
that the draft process is too darn
long. And what happens we have too

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00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.119
much time on our hands, well, we start talking too much. We

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will let you hear exactly what that
means, and I'll react in much more

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as we continue along here and close
out our one of this edition of Space

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City Saturday. I'm Dan Matthews with
you here on your home of the Astros

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00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:47.719
and the Rockets, Sports Talk seven
ninety, Space City Saturday on Sports Talk

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seven ninety. I feel like this
gave us hell, and yet I don't

530
00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.400
remember him. I remember too many
passed the drown and that the few that

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really that we really just didn't really
have a true answer for the quarterback home.

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00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.960
So that's one thing that I've susually
remember from here. And we stripped

533
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:16.880
up there barely Gamari Lassiter, your
newest Houston Texan. I guess third newest

534
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:22.000
Houston Texan if you want to be
particular about it. Because after him at

535
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.280
number fifty nine, they go with
Blake Fisher out of Notre Dame. And

536
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.639
also at number seventy eight, a
trade. So Adam Wexler is right,

537
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:36.320
Nick Cassario trader, Nick, he
trades up in the third round to go

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00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.800
get Kaylin Bullock out of USC.
And it sounds like too, you know,

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00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:45.519
it's funny before we get to the
draft process part of all this.

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00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.760
And by the way, too,
I'm gonna go ahead. And you know

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00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.400
there's self reported violations in the nc
DOUBLEA. You know that schools that have

542
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:55.519
like a minor recruiting violation, they
tell the ncuble A, Hey, we

543
00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:00.679
didn't know, we weren't supposed to
give this recruit that we did that.

544
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.239
Uh, don't ding us too hard. That's why we're telling you. So

545
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.400
in this case right here, I'll
call an error on myself. I will

546
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.760
say that I had a lax and
lapse in judgment in coverage because I didn't

547
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.719
even throw out the phone number.
Today, I'm surprised I hadn't gotten a

548
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:17.199
text from Chris Gordy. Of course, in my mind I would read it

549
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:21.480
like Gordy, no phone number,
you know, don't out, you know,

550
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:23.159
come on man. So in this
case right here, seven one,

551
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.480
three, two, five, seven
ninety. You know a lot of people

552
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.559
want to react to the draft and
be able to talk that. So we

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00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:32.519
will do that. We will continue
that conversation all throughout the show. We'll

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00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.239
get into a little bit more astros
next hour. But of course the Texan's

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00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.719
hot and heavy over there. But
where I'm going with this is a lot

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00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.960
of times again, you know,
that strong relationship that the head coach and

557
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:50.119
the GM have in the NFL is
that there will be a pick or two

558
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:53.239
in the draft where the GM,
you know, they're kind of going around

559
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.000
the room, all right, who
do we like here? Who do we

560
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.320
want? All of those different types
of things that they'll look to the head

561
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:01.280
coach and be like, all right, hey, this is you. Who

562
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:06.079
do you want? And I mean, just it sounds like and also to

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00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.639
the reaction of them making the move
to go up and get Bullock, but

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00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:13.920
also too, I mean, some
of the reactions I saw from the Texans

565
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:19.440
on Twitter sounds like Kayln Bullock was
a Demiico Ryans pick like that that he

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00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.639
you know, you know, really
did his you know, film study on

567
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.840
him, and you know, really
just kind of did his his work on

568
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.840
him and said, you know that's
a guy in my secondary I want.

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00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.920
So the Texans make that move,
go up and get him. We'll let

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00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.239
you hear from Nick Casserio about,
you know, the player that they're getting

571
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.440
out of USC a little bit later
on. But we just heard Brent Rollins

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talk about Kamari Laster. You just
heard Laster right there, and again,

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I mean, you know that game
and I was talking about it kind of

574
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:54.000
got started talking about with Javon Bullard
because remember in that game, it was

575
00:40:54.079 --> 00:41:00.400
Javon Bullard's hit on Marvin Harrison Junior
that knocked him out of the game,

576
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:06.159
concusted Marvin Harrison Junior, and of
course Georgia able to come back and win

577
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:12.079
that one, as they were able
to then finish the Drill and win the

578
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:17.880
national title that season. But Bullard
was thought by many to be a possibility

579
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:21.840
for the Texans if he was still
around there at number fifty nine, but

580
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.920
I believe it was right before them
at fifty eight. The Green Bay Packers

581
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:30.119
saying yeah, we want him in
our secondary, so the Packers. So

582
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:36.280
the Texans could not go two for
two with Georgia players. But you know

583
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.119
a little bit more to on,
you know what the Texans have been able

584
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:44.039
to add in terms of these three
players. I mean, I will say

585
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:47.360
this, I'm a power five guy. I am a huge believer in adding

586
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:52.119
power five players. And also too, I mean for all the things we

587
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.239
heard of, not only with Nick
Cassio what he said last night about building

588
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.800
the most competitive fifty three man roster
as they can, I mean had a

589
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.960
chance a couple of weeks ago to
ask Will Anderson Junior about you know,

590
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.400
players being added. And also too, I mean something he had said at

591
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.679
the end of the season where he
had guys coming up to him on the

592
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.519
field saying, it looks like you
guys have something special there, like that

593
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:17.960
looks like it's fun to be a
part of. And he had a line

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that really has stuck with me ever
since. And we've heard Nick Cassio a

595
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.559
couple of times now say this where
you know, not everybody is for us

596
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.000
and we're not for them, and
you know this this is something that you

597
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:35.719
have to fully buy into and a
credit goes to not only Tamiko Ryans and

598
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.880
Nick Cassario for building and fostering that
culture inside that building, but also too,

599
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:43.639
I think a huge part of that
is the guys that he added in

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00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:46.760
the draft last year. CJ.
Stroud and Will Anderson Jr. What do

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00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:52.119
they have in common? They come
from programs where championships are the only thing

602
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.360
that matters in those programs. At
Ohio State, what are the two things

603
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.800
they care about the most? Beat
Michigan and win a national title? And

604
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:05.960
I mean that's the expectation that Ryan
Day and everybody up there at Ohio State

605
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.800
have to deal with every single year. And that's what Urban Meyer was able

606
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:13.559
to bring back there to Columbus Ohio
and c J. Stroud knows that well,

607
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.239
and I think he was able to
bring that mindset into the building.

608
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:20.519
And of course Will Anderson Junior when
he was a part of that monster that

609
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.199
Nick Saban built in Tuscaloosa. I
mean, I don't think it's a coincidence

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00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.440
that you added those guys and they
were able to help with some of the

611
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.320
younger guys on this team. No, that's not how you do it.

612
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.960
Do it this way. This is
what winning football looks like, you know,

613
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.639
it's it's the you know, you
can either do it the right way

614
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.760
or you can do it the way
that you're doing it. And I think

615
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:44.400
that that's something that these guys had
brought into the fold. So it's been

616
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.400
absolutely fun to see here in this
last year and a half of it,

617
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.760
just the mindset and also to the
expectations not only in that building but outside

618
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:58.760
the building change seemingly overnight with what
those guys have been able to bring.

619
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.960
And also too, I think you
saw that kind of manifest itself in the

620
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:07.039
draft last night. You get Kamari
Laster, a guy from a championship program,

621
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.639
and you know, it kind of
even goes a little bit further as

622
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:15.079
well that I remember when I was
covering Georgia that whenever Kirby Smart would talk

623
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:20.199
about his recruiting classes, he would
talk about, we want team captains,

624
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:24.039
we want guys that played for state
championships. We want guys who know what

625
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:29.440
a winning mindset looks like and what
it is coming into this building. And

626
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.480
that's a reason why at Georgia,
with you know, just the transfer portal,

627
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.559
everything that is now that they've been
able to keep roster continuity pretty well,

628
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.119
because it's one of those things that
they're able to go and get,

629
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.280
yes, four or five stars.
You heard Brent Rollins talk about it there,

630
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:50.480
you know, in the segment before
about you know, just how they're

631
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.519
able to keep that thing strong in
Athens. And that's one of them is

632
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:57.320
that you know, a four or
five star we'll get to campus there and

633
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:01.039
they'll tell them there's no guarantees,
like you have to earn whatever playing time

634
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:05.679
you get on the field, and
that only helps you when you get to

635
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.199
the next level. And you had
a guy out of a program that has

636
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:13.199
such a strong culture already. Same
deal with Blake Fisher at Notre Dame.

637
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.559
I mean, you play at Notre
Dame, you are on national TV every

638
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:22.320
single game. You are in all
intents and purposes for a lot of the

639
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.360
country that's that part of the country's
team. I mean in the major cities,

640
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.360
Notre Dame is the college football program
and they've got the deal with NBC,

641
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.199
and you know, people can say
what they want in terms of,

642
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.480
you know, are they still a
national powerhouse? All of those different types

643
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.000
of things, and those are the
expectations you deal with there. Same deal

644
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:45.639
for Kaitlin Bullock at USC. I
mean they are you know, the team

645
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:50.000
that everybody pays attention to out in
southern California, And are you know,

646
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.480
are they what they were when Brian
Kushing and Reggie Bush and Matt Liiner were

647
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:58.079
on campus there and Pete Carroll was
the head coach. No, but it

648
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.599
doesn't mean that the expectations are any
different in Southern California. They still they're

649
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:07.000
they're trying to get back into the
national conversation of making the college football playoff

650
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:13.119
everything else of the sort. So
those are things that Cayln Bullock has you

651
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.239
know, you know, already dealt
with in college and now brings to the

652
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:21.280
Texans organization. We'll get to,
you know, the the draft process and

653
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:23.599
everything. How long it is,
you know, typical fashion. Sometimes I

654
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:29.159
get on a tangent going at one
direction and sometimes unable to get you that.

655
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.519
So the top of the hour we
will get you that because there's some

656
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:37.000
interesting audio that goes along with that. But let's get out to the phone

657
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.440
lines again. Someone three two,
one two five, seven ninety al on

658
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:44.280
the south side wants to weigh in
here on Sports Talk seven ninety al.

659
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.199
What's going on, buddy, Hey, what's going on, Dan, Yell?

660
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:51.440
I have great show. I appreciate, buddy. Okay, the fourth

661
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.639
round starts today eleven, right,
Yeah, so here in a few minutes

662
00:46:54.679 --> 00:47:00.559
they're gonna get going. Texans are
a little bit later on. Okay,

663
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.920
are y'all gonna cover it or it's
gonna be on ABC? I mean,

664
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.880
I think you know obviously the the
TV coverage will be there, but I'll

665
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:14.360
be with you here until noon and
then of course we'll be back with live

666
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:19.559
programming with Ross viller Real at four
o'clock for Astros on deck. Okay,

667
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.760
I didn't know. I thought I've
seen it coming on ABC at thirteen.

668
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:29.679
What pick we got in the four
front? I am actually pulling that up

669
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:34.840
because I thought that's where you were
going to go. Believe it is at

670
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:40.320
the later stage of the fourth round, as you know they are. I

671
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:45.079
want to say, like like fourth
to last or fifth to last. It

672
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.719
is going to be a little bit
of a wait for us. Okay,

673
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.400
So the player, Le'm gonna get
your opinion on this. So the players

674
00:47:52.400 --> 00:48:00.400
we picked up yesterday, uh four
players, right? I think all on

675
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:05.960
a well, one on offensive line
and the other ones was defense. Correct,

676
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.559
Yeah, so two defensive backs Bullock
and Lassiter. Bullock is safety,

677
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:15.880
Laster a corner, probably gonna be
a slot corner in the early stages of

678
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:21.440
his career, so probably playing the
nickel spot. I know that Nick Casseio

679
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:24.519
threw that out last night, and
Fisher, I mean, you know,

680
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:30.519
I agree with what Nick Cassario said, you can never have enough good offensive

681
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:35.760
tackles, and that is what he
slates to be in the NFL. But

682
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:37.480
also two, I mean, you
know, we talked about it last night

683
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.840
on the Draft Show, and I
agree with wex. As of right now,

684
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:45.719
you probably have three of your starters
in place in Laramie Tunsall, Titus

685
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:51.239
Howard, and also Shaq Mason,
and we'll see what happens with center,

686
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.719
and we'll also see what happens with
that left guard spot. So there's still

687
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.639
spots to be one on that offensive
line. Yeah, that's what I was

688
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:04.519
looking and that yesterday. I've seen
some players that I know. I think

689
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:08.400
the kool Aid dude went right before
us New Orleans a green belt. Somebody

690
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:16.960
snatched good player. But sometimes the
name on the jersey sometimes it be overhyped

691
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:22.199
a lot. But I was looking
at it. I was reaching for a

692
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.199
D tackle just to get your pin
and take on that. But then see,

693
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:30.480
I have to step back and realize
the draft doesn't define the season,

694
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:36.320
meaning that you have players that's gonna
get undrafted, You're gonna have players that's

695
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.280
not in the draft, and you're
gonna have players that get cut. So

696
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:45.239
even with the D tackles, how
do you if you was hw pathetically speaking

697
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:51.840
on how close or what you think
about the speed of mama to going towards

698
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.920
the D tackle and I hang up
this all right, appreciate the call.

699
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:59.800
You know, in terms of defensive
tackle, there's still Makay Wingo out there,

700
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:07.079
Davis out of Clemson another one.
You've also got Jalen CRUMMDY out of

701
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:13.920
Mississippi State, Jordan Jefferson out of
LSU. So there are still plenty of

702
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.920
good players out there. Fabian love
it. I mean if the Texans,

703
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:21.239
which by the way, to the
Texan's going to be picking twenty seventh here

704
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:25.440
in the fourth round, so a
little bit later on in this round,

705
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:31.719
as they will actually be eighth to
last here in the fourth round, and

706
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:36.920
then they've got a couple of sevenths. I believe they don't have a fifth

707
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.800
I know that the breakdown was done
last night by Nick Cassario, but still

708
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.320
plenty of players there, and we'll
get into a little bit more of that

709
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:49.719
actually as we get into the eleven
o'clock hour, and also to get you

710
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.480
a little bit of the point that
I made about at least was setting up

711
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:58.119
about the draft process. We'll have
all of that as we start to the

712
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.519
eleven o'clock hour. Now the fourth
round underway from Detroit, we will continue

713
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:07.000
the draft conversation and much more right
here on your home of the Astros and

714
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:19.639
the Rockets, Sports Talk seven ninety. Welcomebore, Welcome to another Space City

715
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:25.000
Saturday on Sports Talk seven ninety Dan
Matthews Live and local h town breakdown of

716
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:30.960
the world that matters to you,
the Houston sports world, all these great

717
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:36.079
Houston fans here. We love you
all, So finish up on that to

718
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:40.119
do list. Flute up the cooler, because you can't drink in talk sports

719
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:45.800
all day if you don't start.
Now bear me in the eight This is

720
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:53.239
Space City Saturday. That's insane.
Here's seven nineties Dan Matthews. Anyway,

721
00:51:53.280 --> 00:52:00.320
we go here in hour two of
the show, as the fourth round under

722
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:05.480
way there in Detroit, so we'll
keep you up to date on what is

723
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.000
going on there. The Carolina Panther
is going to start things off, so

724
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:14.159
as we start to see some notable
names come off the board, we will

725
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:16.840
keep you up to date on that. But since I missed on the last

726
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:22.000
one, I'll get to it here. So the draft process, you know,

727
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:27.599
we see from this season coming to
an end there in January, and

728
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.800
then from January all until now.
As you follow the process, this is

729
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:37.199
when guys leave their campuses, they
start going to here or to Arizona,

730
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:42.599
California, Florida, Georgia, wherever
it is, and start working out at

731
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:51.039
some of these major you know,
kind of pheno draft preparation facilities. I

732
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.840
mean, you know, I know
D one Sports is a huge one that

733
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:59.559
is used a lot by players as
well as you know, many others plex

734
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.639
here in Houston area. Danny Arnold
out there in the Sugarland area, he

735
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:06.400
has a lot of players that will
go out there and get ready for the

736
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.239
draft there. But that's not the
part that I'm talking about. The part

737
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:13.079
that I'm talking about is just all
of that time that we have that three

738
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.800
and a half four months before we
get to hear in the draft is a

739
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:22.559
lot of paralysis by analysis if we're
just being honest, because it is,

740
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.559
you know, having an anonymous scout
say, oh, this is a camp

741
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.880
mess prospect. If you pass on
him, you're gonna regret it for years.

742
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:34.039
You don't hear those as much.
You hear more often. And this

743
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:37.760
was something that I believe Nick Casserio
was kind of hinting at last week,

744
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:42.239
and maybe that's kind of what the
you know, voice of the frustration was

745
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:49.320
about things said by so called experts
is the anonymous reports. And we had

746
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:54.239
one last year here in this very
area of the S two test with CJ.

747
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:59.639
Stroud and oh, no player has
ever had a successful career performing as

748
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:01.639
poorly on this test as he did. And then, if I'm not mistaken,

749
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:05.440
the S two test then came back
and said, well, the results

750
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.679
were probably flawed. And basically you
just kind of, you know, found

751
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:14.480
that that story was floated out there
with really much validity to it, and

752
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:17.760
people got frustrated, of course about
it, because well Stroud proved all of

753
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:22.199
that to be wrong because he went
out and was unreal on the field and

754
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:29.880
all of those concerns were really just
they were unwarranted and in this case right

755
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:35.039
here, Colts GM Chris Ballard talking
with the media last night and the Colts

756
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:45.199
going with a pass rusher in the
first round with Layoutu Latu out of UCLA

757
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:50.440
and of course the Lombardi Award winner
as a first round pick for them.

758
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:52.599
And I said at the time when
they made that pick, I said,

759
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:57.920
wow, how the tables have turned, because for years it was the Texans

760
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.920
with their draft picks of we we
got to stop number eighteen. We've got

761
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.840
to be able to find a way
to limit that guy who wears number eighteen

762
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:07.360
for the Colts, and at the
time, of course Peyton Manning. And

763
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.599
that's why the Texans made a lot
of the picks that they did at the

764
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:15.400
time, Brian Cushing, Connor,
Barwin Brooks, reed, JJ Watts,

765
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:20.320
everybody of the sorts, and they
were trying to bolster up their defense to

766
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:22.599
be able to try to counteract what
they're doing there. Well, I think

767
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:29.280
that probably Chris Ballard and the crew
there in Indianapolis with Law two saying we've

768
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:31.679
got to stop number seven now,
and the shoe is on the other foot.

769
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:36.360
The Texans are the ones now that
have teams coming after them with the

770
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.760
way that CJ. Shroud in the
way that they played last year, and

771
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:43.679
they're the reigning champs of the AFC
South. So now you've got them,

772
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:47.239
You've got Jacksonville, you've got Tennessee. Although Tennessee probably as compared to the

773
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.519
other two, probably a little further
behind in terms of trying to get back

774
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.719
into contention, but that's still in
play. Ady Mitchell, though, a

775
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.880
guy that we know well from the
Four Bend area, went out to Georgia

776
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:04.320
late his first couple of years there
and won national titles with the Dogs,

777
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:08.639
and then this past season decided to
go to Texas, and I guess there

778
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:14.320
was an anonymous report out there about
his character, and that was brought up

779
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.480
last night to colch GM Chris Ballard, and as you can hear in this

780
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:22.320
piece of audio, let's just say
he was not very pleased. I mean

781
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:25.079
I read some of the that was
set on tea. I mean, just

782
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:32.519
a typical e chose my language,
our typical league un name sources, you

783
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:38.159
know, bad interview. That's such
bod I mean it is it's like put

784
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:44.079
your name, like, put your
name on it. I'm tired of we

785
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.239
tear these young men down. These
are twenty one, twenty two young men.

786
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:50.360
And if you can, if people
out there can tell me, they

787
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:54.559
don't they're perfect in their lives.
It's cramp. It's cramp. This is

788
00:56:54.599 --> 00:57:00.400
a good kid, and you know, for for that, for those forced

789
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:01.960
to come out, thank you know
much. I said it last year.

790
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.920
It's it's bull. I'm sorry.
I apologize for the language I don't but

791
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:13.800
I do, all right. So
you heard his frustration there. And I

792
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:17.960
don't know exactly what the report is
about Mitchell. I mean, I will

793
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.280
say this. When I was at
Georgia, I don't think I ever talked

794
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:25.079
to a d Mitchell. You know. It's also too, you know,

795
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:30.119
a lot of programs will handle their
players in different ways. In the case

796
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:32.039
of Georgia, most of the players
we talked with we're part of the leadership

797
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:39.000
council and it's a very controlled environment
in terms of freshmen don't talk. But

798
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:45.679
also too, you really only get
access to a handful of players because it's

799
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:49.840
a you know, kind of a
program that is a lot in the same

800
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.679
mold of what Nick Saban did at
Alabama, and a lot of this comes

801
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:59.119
from Bill Parcells of that coaching tree
of Bill Belichick. You know Nick Saban

802
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.280
as well as you know now Kirby
is part of that, and you know

803
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:07.280
Jimbo Fisher part of that as well. Of you know, you want to

804
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:12.360
be the voice of the program,
you being the head coach, and you

805
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.679
don't make assistance available other than the
beginning of the season. You'll get the

806
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:21.679
offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator to
talk to the media. But aside from

807
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:25.519
that until you get to the bowl
games. That is when you are able

808
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:30.920
to kind of open things up because
a lot of the bowl games in postseason

809
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:35.960
games will open up locker rooms and
also two media days they will make players

810
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.559
available. And that's usually as a
media member when you go around and talk

811
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:43.039
to players and coaches you hadn't had
a chance to talk to all season long.

812
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:46.119
But in this case right here,
I never heard anything bad about Ady

813
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:52.400
Mitchell. And this is a situation
here where yeah, I don't doubt that

814
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:57.039
maybe he had a bad interview,
but it also too kind of goes to

815
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:00.480
what he talked about there twenty one
to twenty two years old. Let's go

816
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:02.199
ahead and just take a little inventory
here of any of us here in the

817
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:06.679
room at the moment. What were
we like, at twenty one twenty two

818
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:08.599
years old, we were not a
finished product, right, Like, we

819
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:15.559
were probably still making mistakes, still
doing things in terms of that little thing

820
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:20.639
we call growing up and learning from
those things. And I mean, if

821
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:24.519
that's you know, the only thing
that really Ady Mitchell is responsible for,

822
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:28.920
then I'm not going to hold it
against the guy. I mean, you

823
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.480
know, a bad interview, oh, you know, comes across as awkward,

824
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:36.800
whatever it might be. I'm just
throwing those oas examples again, twenty

825
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:38.880
one to twenty two years old.
Like, I think that we kind of

826
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:44.880
mistake, you know, a lot
of exposure for these guys as to they're

827
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:47.760
ready and they're grown up already,
when the truth of the matter is they're

828
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:52.599
just like any of us. And
at that age we're still going through experiences,

829
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:55.719
still trying to learn, still trying
to navigate how to become an adult.

830
00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:00.920
And this process for a draft is
all of those things. And I

831
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:04.360
don't doubt that some guys are not
finished products. As a matter of fact,

832
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.800
I know that you know a lot
of guys in terms of interview skills

833
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:12.840
and everything else of the sort,
they're nowhere close. And sometimes that's a

834
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.840
choice of a player. Some guys
just go ahead and look at it and

835
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:17.199
say, I don't want to focus
on that. I don't care about that.

836
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:21.760
I want to play football and that's
how I want to be able to

837
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.800
go about my business and everything else. Well, it kind of takes care

838
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:29.440
of itself. And in this case
right here, I mean, you know,

839
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:34.599
we hear about character issues, and
here's character issues for me. Do

840
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:38.360
they have a history of violence against
others. I mean, that's a character

841
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:43.400
issue for me. You know,
any other you know, involvements in crimes,

842
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.000
that's a character issue for me.
I mean, if it's a guy

843
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:49.719
that, oh he's pretty quiet,
Oh, you know, he doesn't say

844
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.119
much, he doesn't do much,
all of these different types of things,

845
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.760
I'm just throwing those as examples,
that's not a character issue for me.

846
01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:00.559
Some guys again just want to you
know, go about their business certain way.

847
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:02.880
Like I'll give you a good example
here. Another guy that we just

848
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:07.519
saw go in the draft, brock
Bowers. One of the worst interviews probably

849
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:12.360
that you can have is with brock
Bowers. But also too, he's a

850
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:15.880
guy that straight up pretty much just
says, I want to be a guy

851
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.519
known for my work on the field, Okay, that's fine. And I

852
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.679
mean if you're holding that against a
player and saying, oh, well,

853
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:25.880
that's not going to translate to the
next level, then you're kidding yourself because

854
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:31.079
it does not have a correlation between
the two, you know, having a

855
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:35.840
bad interview or anything else of the
sort. I mean, that's where I

856
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:38.960
think. If I'm a team and
I am confident in my scouting and development,

857
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:44.599
and I'm confident in what I see
on the film, that's what translates

858
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:47.679
for me. And obviously good on
Chris Ballard and the Colts for not listening

859
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:51.519
to that outside noise. I mean, again getting back to Nick Casserio,

860
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:54.480
the noise outside the building. Well, I get that. I understand all

861
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.639
of that. And you know,
it's kind of the old saying that Darryl

862
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:00.400
k Royle said. You know,
you start to the fans. Soon enough,

863
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:04.559
you're sitting in the stands with them, and that's what you know,

864
01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.840
strong programs and strong organizations. They
say, hey, look, you know,

865
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.800
if we make a pick and fans
don't like it, well, you

866
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:15.119
know, we're not doing this to
make you one hundred percent happy, and

867
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:20.039
we're not doing this to necessarily anger
you. We're doing this because we're trying

868
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.519
to build the best football team that
we could build. And I mean you

869
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:24.840
turn on the film, you know, kind of the back of the you

870
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:29.719
know what in baseball that we hear
Dana Brown and others in the ASTROS organization

871
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:32.199
say, well, the same translates
here of what are we getting in a

872
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:36.840
player? And I talked about it
last night with Mitchell. His best games

873
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.559
in college were in the largest games. I mean, he had a hell

874
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:45.800
of a catch for a touchdown against
Alabama the National title game, a couple

875
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:49.719
of huge catches against Ohio State and
TCU to help them win that one.

876
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:54.039
You know, big catches for Texas
last year as well in helping them try

877
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:59.000
to get to Houston for the National
championship game. And also too, they

878
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:01.320
felt so highly on the final play
of the game against Washington they tried to

879
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:05.639
go to him in the end zone, although they broke the cardinal rule.

880
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:07.960
I think we all know. You
know, I've talked about it before,

881
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.639
the rules on the side of the
refrigerator. I've told you all about this

882
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:14.960
before. Well, here's another one
that you can add to that notepad on

883
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:19.079
the side of the refrigerator. Don't
ever roll to the short side of the

884
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:22.960
field the boundary, and try to
make a play when you need a play,

885
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:27.360
use the field. I think we
all know this at this point,

886
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:31.840
right. Nothing annoys me more than
that, or trying to throw a fade

887
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:36.719
into the end zone because you put
enough arrow into the football that fifty to

888
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:39.880
fifty ball becomes less of a fifty
to fifty ball because now you're getting the

889
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:43.360
defensive back a chance to be able
to try to make a play, and

890
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:46.079
sometimes the receiver is so good at
being able to high point the football and

891
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:51.199
bring it down that it doesn't necessarily
matter. But all of those other things

892
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:54.519
again, don't ever roll to the
boundary when you really need a play.

893
01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:59.440
So that's just one of those rules. And Texas fans probably agree with me

894
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:02.079
on that, because well, it
didn't go their way and Washington ended up

895
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:06.760
moving on to play in the national
title games. So that is what we

896
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:12.039
have from there. We'll wrap up
the Texan Straft conversation here coming up in

897
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:15.119
the next segment because with last a
few things to focus on with him,

898
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:18.119
but also to some of the other
guys, kind of a what are we

899
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:24.599
getting with these three newest Texans.
We'll discuss that as we continue along here

900
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:26.880
on Space City Saturday. If you
want to weigh in, you can at

901
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:30.079
someone three two one two five,
seven ninety. I'm Dan Matthews here on

902
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:35.880
your home with the Astros and the
Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety. We now

903
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:41.840
return to Face City Saturday, Sports
Talk seven ninety. Uh you know,

904
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:45.639
always looking at find you know,
we're always looking to uh, you know,

905
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:47.000
find ways to help the you know, the boys next to me,

906
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:49.840
the guys next to me. And
then on top of that, you know,

907
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:53.880
just finish, you know, I
think that's the biggest thing, just

908
01:04:53.920 --> 01:05:01.960
finishing the second newest Houston Texan,
Blake Fisher offensive tackle out of Notre Dame

909
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:08.639
with the media last night on zoom
as. You can find that conversation as

910
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:13.880
well as Kamari Laster and Kaylen Bullock
on Sports Talk seven ninety dot com.

911
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:16.400
We posted those up there, so
you want to go get to know your

912
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:21.320
newest Houston Texans. That is where
you can go. Get you a little

913
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:26.000
bit more on Laster, Fisher in
Bullock here in just a second. But

914
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:29.960
as I mentioned, the fourth round
is underway. We are four picks in

915
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:39.599
to the fourth round and a heavy
Texas flavor. The Brian Lilima wants to

916
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:42.280
chime in here, all right,
buddy, Well, you know we'll give

917
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:45.800
you a chance here a little bit
later on No Love Love Lo Loo.

918
01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:50.440
He's the best, Saulisbury Tripoli,
the whole crew in the mornings. But

919
01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:57.239
I digress anyway. The first four
picks, three out of the four from

920
01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:01.840
Texas School's JT. Sanders, wondering
if maybe the Texans had a chance at

921
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:05.360
him. Well, they decide not, as we'll see if they go for

922
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:10.280
a tight end. I know that
WEX has thrown out a possibility of Kate

923
01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:13.280
Stover out of Ohio State. You
know it's one of those. I mean

924
01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:16.119
heard c J. Stroud the other
day talking with Micah Parsons and the crew

925
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:21.719
on Bleacher Report when he was upset
to see Ricky Piersoll go to San Francisco.

926
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:26.920
But not only that, he had
mentioned about we'll get a receiver or

927
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:29.320
in this case right here, you
know, kind of like I was talking

928
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:30.679
about, sometimes you do a pick
for the head coach. Well, when

929
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:34.119
you got a quarterback like c J. Stroud, I wouldn't be surprised if

930
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:39.320
you know, you get to a
situation today where Nick Casario brings up the

931
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:41.960
phone and calls CJ and says,
hey, what do you think about Kate

932
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:45.840
Stover. So we'll see if the
Texans go that route. But we're twenty

933
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:50.599
three picks away from the Texans being
on the clock here in round four.

934
01:06:50.679 --> 01:06:55.480
But J. T. Sanders going
one on one overall first pick of the

935
01:06:55.480 --> 01:07:00.320
fourth round to the Carolina Panthers.
Tony Franklin receive out of Oregon. A

936
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:03.679
lot of people high on him,
but he slips to day three. The

937
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:09.960
Denver Broncos go up and get him
at one O two Leyden Robinson, an

938
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.199
offensive guard out of Texas A and
M. He goes third in this round

939
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:20.800
to the New England Patriots. And
Dadreon Taylor Demerson out of out of Texas

940
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:27.440
Tech, a safety going to the
Arizona Cardinals. And the picks continuing at

941
01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:30.599
to roll in. So we'll keep
an eye on the draft as we continue

942
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:35.320
to roll along here on Space City
Saturday. Dan Matthews here with you.

943
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:38.800
If you want to weigh in,
you can at sebone three two one two

944
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:42.360
five seven ninety. Once again,
that's seven one three two one two five

945
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:46.360
seven nine zero. As for the
players at the Texans added, I mean

946
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:49.920
we heard Brent Rollins with us last
night on the Draft Show. Again,

947
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:53.840
if you miss that or the replay
of it here on the show, Sports

948
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:58.760
Talk seven ninety dot com is where
you can catch that. But a few

949
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:01.880
things about Rollins. Number one,
I thought it was excuse me about Laster

950
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:08.039
that Rollins had mentioned, and I'll
piggyback off of, you know, the

951
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:13.519
thing with him of being a versatile
player in terms of he can play the

952
01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:15.640
boundary, he can play the field, and also too, he could play

953
01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:19.159
the slot. I mean, there
was that game last year against Missouri that

954
01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:24.000
Georgia had to grind out and try
to beat Eli Drinkwotz's team, and they

955
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.319
were able to do that, and
they had to put him in the slot

956
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:31.800
to cover Luthor Burden, and he
was able to shut down Luthor Burden in

957
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:35.960
that game. I mean, he's
got experience going up against Milik Neighbors too.

958
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:43.880
I was talking with my buddy Cole
Thompson of USA Today last night about

959
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:46.520
you know what Laster has been able
to do, and he was able to

960
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:51.600
hold Milik Neighbors in check in that
game and able to help Georgia win that

961
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:58.600
SEC championship game against LSU. A
couple of years ago, so he has

962
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.800
experience going up against the best the
best in college and not only that as

963
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:08.760
well, I mean playing those other
corner spots and the slot corner, which

964
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:12.079
you heard Brent say that probably that
is where he's going to translate here in

965
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:16.560
the early going, as the Texans
also to have quite a competition there at

966
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.600
the other corner spots opposite Derek Stingley. I mean, it was nice to

967
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:25.520
see a healthier Derek Stingley last year
on the field and probably realized some of

968
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:30.520
those expectations that he had coming into
the league and able to show. And

969
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.840
you know also too, I mean
it always happens whenever there's a comparable player

970
01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:39.479
in the draft and said comparable player
is doing well, is earlier on in

971
01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:45.479
the season and earlier on in his
career. You know, you were able

972
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:54.319
to get better play out of the
opposite corner from Derek Stingley. But you

973
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:57.359
know here at the same time too
as well. I mean, once healthy,

974
01:09:57.479 --> 01:10:01.960
he was able to you know,
get his career on track and able

975
01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:09.159
to put together a huge performance later
on in the season. But Sauce Gardner

976
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:13.800
was the other player that I was
trying to think of. But you know,

977
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:18.119
Stingley now showing to be one of
the better young corners in the game,

978
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:21.680
and he was able to show that
last season, so it was great

979
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:26.479
to see out of him. But
also too, I mean, this is

980
01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:30.119
a very important part of your defense
now. I mean everybody looks at pass

981
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:34.880
rush and being stout up front is
incredibly important and that's something that Demiko Ryans

982
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:40.319
knows. That's a huge reason why
Deniko Autry is now here and why Daniel

983
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:44.399
Hunter is now here and what Will
Anderson Junior were able to do last season.

984
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:47.319
But the secondary as well is a
part of this team that I'm sure

985
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:53.920
it's Demiko Ryans and Nick Cassario met
during this draft process of them going through

986
01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:58.159
and saying that part has to improve
if we're going to improve as a football

987
01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:01.439
team. And that is a huge
area focus for the Texans so far to

988
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:05.359
this point of two of the three
picks that they've made this year are in

989
01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:12.159
said secondary. So adding Kamari Laster
and you know his versatility that he brings

990
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:17.119
also to Brent's Wright. Kirby Smart
does use starters on special teams and that

991
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:20.800
is a part of it that you
know you're on the field, you're not

992
01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:25.199
coming off the field, and that
is something else that he brings. And

993
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:28.760
I know Nick Cassario talked about it
last night of what he brings from a

994
01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:31.720
special teams perspective, and Cassio said
straight up, he goes, you're either

995
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:35.239
a starter on offense, you're a
starter on defense, or you're on the

996
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:41.560
kick team on special teams, and
we use more defensive guys on special teams

997
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:45.960
then we use offensive guys. And
that's something you see around the league and

998
01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:48.600
that is something else that he brings. But the other part as well.

999
01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:56.399
I like the line that Cassario said
last night about Kamari Laster linebacker mentality,

1000
01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:00.800
and that is a benchmark of the
Georgia program. You're physical or you don't

1001
01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:05.359
play. I mean, there is
no middle ground there. You're either physical

1002
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:09.039
or you're not on the field.
And if you don't like to tackle,

1003
01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:12.039
if you don't like to play in
the box, all those different types of

1004
01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:16.039
things, then you are going to
not find very much playing time. And

1005
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:20.000
that is something that he brings on
the field. He's a thumper in terms

1006
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:27.119
of how he attacks the ball carrier
and also too, you know the part

1007
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:30.279
that people are focusing on the lack
of interception numbers, all of those things.

1008
01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:34.079
I don't find that to be necessarily
something that tells me if a guy

1009
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:38.159
is going to be good or not. I think a lot of times it

1010
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:40.840
is. The stats are easy to
look at, and the stats are easy

1011
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:44.920
to point to as for why this
player is going to work or why they're

1012
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:47.439
not going to work. But with
Lassiter, from what I saw again,

1013
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:53.600
I talked about it what he was
trusted with in terms of his defensive responsibilities.

1014
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.319
Luther Burden a guy who's gonna make
a lot of money in this league.

1015
01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:59.840
Malik Neighbors, a guy who was
one of the first, if not

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01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:03.680
he was the second receiver taken in
this draft by the New York Giants after

1017
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:09.119
the Arizona Cardinals went with Marvin Harrison
Junior. But I mean a guy that

1018
01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:13.760
is going to be counted on to
make significant plays in this league. And

1019
01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:16.840
that was Kamari Laster's responsibility. So
that's what you get from him. With

1020
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:21.880
Fisher, a true tackle and somebody
who was the left tackle at Notre Dame

1021
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:26.960
before he got hurt, and Joe
Alt came onto the scene, and once

1022
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.359
Alt was able to take over that
left tackle spot, he did not move

1023
01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.600
off that spot. And Notre Dame. You know, at certain schools,

1024
01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:35.840
what are they known for. I
mean, everybody looks at LSU as in

1025
01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:40.000
the past they were known as DBU. Now I would probably say they're wide

1026
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:44.119
receiver. You at LSU, you
know Georgia, what are they known for?

1027
01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:49.159
Strong linebacker play, good defensive line
play, and also to standout defensive

1028
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:53.600
back play. I think that's something
that you can point to with that program

1029
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:58.119
defensive backs out of Alabama. You
feel like if you're getting a defensive back

1030
01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:00.000
who played for Nick Saban, you're
getting a guy who's ready for the league.

1031
01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:02.399
I mean, you know we've seen
it. You know, where do

1032
01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:05.800
quarterbacks come from, Where do receivers
come from? Where do running backs come

1033
01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:09.640
from? All of those different types
of programs. And Notre Dame is a

1034
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:14.039
program that's known for producing really good
offensive lineman. Jared Patterson, who the

1035
01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:17.560
Texans have, he is one that
fits that profile. And also too,

1036
01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:20.359
I mean we've seen it around the
league. Quintin Nelson, you know,

1037
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:26.279
Mike McGlinchey, and now I mean
Notre Dame with this most recent draft class

1038
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:30.760
they've had of having Joe Alt and
now Blake Fisher coming out of that program,

1039
01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:33.159
and you know, it's kind of
one of those things expectations of programs.

1040
01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:36.680
You play offensive line at Notre Dame, you are going to be expected

1041
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:41.439
to play at a high level and
be able to put yourself in position to

1042
01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:45.239
try to make the league. And
that's what Fisher is able to bring with

1043
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:48.199
a bullock. I mean, you
know, you heard Nick Cassario say it

1044
01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:51.760
last night. Probably his best football
is still in front of him. A

1045
01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:57.159
guy who was a converted wide receiver
who played receiver in high school and had

1046
01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:00.279
a good line too. Last night, he was asked on the Zoom Call,

1047
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:04.279
I believe by Kim Davis about his
first love in the game was receiver.

1048
01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:09.039
But he started going to some of
these you know, rivals twenty four

1049
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:13.600
to seven camps that were out there
and noticed that there were not a ton

1050
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:16.560
of kids in the lines to get
reps at defensive back and said, well,

1051
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:19.039
you know, I could stand in
this line that has everybody in it

1052
01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:24.000
for receiver, or I could go
try to get better as a defensive back.

1053
01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:28.199
And that's where that spark kind of
ignited for him to get his career

1054
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:30.960
going and becoming a standout defensive back. There where he played some corner at

1055
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:36.960
USC but also to a guy that
kind of the opposite of Lasseter in terms

1056
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:41.600
of the interception numbers, because he's
got those, but also to a guy

1057
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:45.000
that you know, some of those
Feast or Famine defensive backs out there,

1058
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:47.439
that you know, you have the
strong interception numbers, but also too at

1059
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:54.079
the same time, you're also susceptible
to sometimes the fifty to fifty ball not

1060
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:59.039
going your direction and an exposive play
can be made, and that's something that's

1061
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:01.760
you know, on his resume as
well, is something that they're going to

1062
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:05.479
obviously try to work with him on
as he gets in the building over there

1063
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:10.920
on Kirby and tries to become a
strong NFL player, but probably a little

1064
01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:14.880
bit more of a raw talent than
what you get out of Laster and out

1065
01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.000
of Fishers. So that's kind of
a quick breakdown of who the Texans have

1066
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:21.319
been able to pick up. But
I mean, it's amazing that we're here

1067
01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:25.399
on the home of the Astros and
the Rockets and we have not gotten to

1068
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:29.239
the Astros just yet. But that
is going to change coming up in the

1069
01:16:29.279 --> 01:16:32.600
next segment, because yesterday on the
A team, we had our weekly visit

1070
01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:38.000
with Jeff Blum. We'll get you
a little bit of that visit where if

1071
01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:40.399
you missed it, you can go
to Sports Talk seven ninety dot com or

1072
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:45.439
also to download the iHeartRadio app and
be able to catch that full visit there.

1073
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:46.560
But we'll have a little bit of
that as we get you ready for

1074
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:54.319
the Astros and the Rockies, the
Mexico City Series starting today there in Mexico.

1075
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:57.760
So we'll get you set up for
all of that and much more.

1076
01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:00.279
Jeff Blum. Hear from him next
right here on Space City Saturday. It's

1077
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.640
Dan Matthews here on your home of
the Astros and the Rockets. Sports Talk

1078
01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:16.159
seven ninety. Space City Saturday continues
fine Sports Talk seven ninety another twenty minutes

1079
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:21.880
or so, seeing some more players
coming off the board. Justin and Boigbee,

1080
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:28.680
the defensive tackle out of Alabama going
fifth in the fourth round to the

1081
01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:34.800
LA Chargers. Brandon Dorles going from
Oregon to the Atlanta Falcons there in the

1082
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:38.239
fourth round. Cheez, what a
draft for them. Huh. Do you

1083
01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:43.439
want to talk about having some serious
questions about what teams are doing? Well,

1084
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:45.399
that would be one of them.
But we're on here in Houston we're

1085
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:50.039
not on anywhere else, so we
focus on the Texans as we are about

1086
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:57.680
eighteen picks away from the Texans making
their fourth round pick at number twenty seven.

1087
01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:00.359
So if we get to it here
on the show, we will let

1088
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:04.199
you know that. If not.
Sports Talk seven ninety dot com is the

1089
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:09.039
way that you can catch up with
that. All right, yesterday on the

1090
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:12.079
A team, speaking of the Astros, they get ready to take on the

1091
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:15.359
Colorado Rockies in Mexico City. Again, Astros on deck coming your way four

1092
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:20.359
o'clock, Rossville, Reale, gonna
be getting you ready for the Stros and

1093
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:25.640
the Rockies. Stros trying to break
a four game losing streak, and we

1094
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:30.159
have said that way too much this
season. Stros at seven and nineteen on

1095
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:32.920
the year, still a long way
to go. But here is part of

1096
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:38.520
our conversation yesterday with Plumber right here
on your home of the Astros Sports Talk

1097
01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:42.720
seven ninety. Hopefully you do get
a couple of wins there, not just

1098
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:45.720
one. I need to sweep for
this to be a successful trip. Is

1099
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:50.439
that too much to ask in light
of what's happening in all aspects of this

1100
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:56.560
Astros team right now? Yeah?
I mean I'm always gonna be the eternal

1101
01:18:56.560 --> 01:18:59.880
optimist, just because I understand how
hard this game is and I also understand

1102
01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:03.479
how good this this ball club can
be. So here's the sales pitches.

1103
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:08.800
Ronel Blanco showed me something to that
last start. He kind of battled through

1104
01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:12.119
lack of command, really didn't have
the fast all he wanted, but still

1105
01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:15.960
worked a very good curveball, slider, change up mix. And that changeup

1106
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:19.560
has been fantastic for him. He's
a beast, he's a horse, he's

1107
01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:24.560
got broad shoulders. I think he
can go out there and compete. I

1108
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:27.880
also think that he understands that he's
pitching well and the team needs him to

1109
01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:30.359
pitch well, and he's going to
go out there and do great against this

1110
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:34.520
Rocky lineup. And then you are
going to see this Astros lineup take advantage

1111
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:38.399
of you know, Cal Quantrel and
some of the pitchers coming out of that

1112
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:41.880
bullpen for the Rockies. And then
you have the return of fromer Valdez,

1113
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:46.000
who's ground ball ray in a high
outitude ballpark could prove to be beneficial keeping

1114
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:48.560
that ball out of the air.
So I think Farmer is going to be

1115
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.479
great. It's going to be a
good series. And I know that we

1116
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.840
all want the Astros to be in
first place, but I think if we're

1117
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:58.439
able to salvage a couple of wins
here in Mexico before we start the month

1118
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:01.039
of May, would actually do a
lot of these guys psyche and get things

1119
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:03.920
going for the rest of the season. Hopefully. We're handling the tenth inning

1120
01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:11.279
show after the afternoon game yesterday and
a caller was wondering how you reward Alex

1121
01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:15.319
Bregman's poor start with a bump up
in the order. As I explained to

1122
01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:16.920
him, it clearly is not a
reward, but much like what's been happening

1123
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:21.199
over the last several years, there
are opportunities in between or in front of

1124
01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:25.800
certain other hitters in your order you'd
like to see. Maybe this can't help

1125
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:29.640
a player, and that's where Alex
Bregman is now. He's batting second behind

1126
01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:32.880
Jose Altuve, in front of Alvarez
and Tucker. Two parts to this,

1127
01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:36.600
do you think this is something they
might just go ahead and stick with for

1128
01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:42.319
a bit, unless I guess Bregman
does absolutely nothing. And secondly, do

1129
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:45.800
you think this might ultimately actually help
the guy who was hitting second ord On

1130
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:50.840
just in a terms of being comfortable, probably seeing a lot more pitches before

1131
01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:56.960
his first at bat than he had
been seeing batting second behind mister ambush Jose

1132
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:01.319
Altuve. It's interesting because you know
what, you know, watching your Don's

1133
01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:04.159
routine over the years, he likes
to, you know, get as close

1134
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:08.359
as he possibly can in that on
deck circle and kind of track the picture

1135
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:11.720
and see what they're doing and get
a better a better visual on the ball

1136
01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:14.359
out of the hand, and also
get some really good timing make sure he

1137
01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:17.840
gets that foot down and he's ready
to smash. And I do think that,

1138
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:20.439
you know, hitting in that third
fourth spot, I think you know,

1139
01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:24.039
your Don's a power guy, He's
an RBI guy. He takes a

1140
01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:27.479
lot of pride in those opportunities.
So I do think that he is comfortable,

1141
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:31.319
you know, kind of relaxing and
having that picture throw several pitches before

1142
01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:34.479
he steps into the box, because
you're right, josel two Bay can ambush

1143
01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:36.600
and swing at the first pitch and
all of a sudden, you barely get

1144
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:40.800
your bangles on and you're standing in
the box and you take a couple of

1145
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:43.560
pitches and you're down on two that
you know, that's that's part the part

1146
01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:45.760
of the issue that could happen.
But I do think that Joe might stick

1147
01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:48.199
with Alex Bregman in that two hole. To your point, Wex, So

1148
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:53.479
I'm saying, you know, Josel
Twovey is obviously a threat this season at

1149
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:55.800
the top of the every season,
at the top of the lineup, with

1150
01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:58.239
the way he's swinging the bat,
So there's going to be a lot of

1151
01:21:58.279 --> 01:22:00.840
intensity and focus on the first hit
of the game, and then Alex can

1152
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:03.760
go ahead and do his work and
not be you know, not be relied

1153
01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:08.039
on to be able to drive in
runs like he was being expected to in

1154
01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:11.399
that four spot, and he wasn't
doing it. So the idea was,

1155
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:14.680
if he's not driving in runs,
we'll put him in the two spot.

1156
01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:16.880
Let him have is you know,
let him put together some good at mats.

1157
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:20.439
Hopefully he takes his walks and gets
base hits and gets on base in

1158
01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:26.199
front of the thunder of Alvarez and
Tucker and the offense starts to go a

1159
01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:29.680
little bit. I definitely do think
that's the idea because having youord On Albarez

1160
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:33.439
hitting behind you will either lend itself
to getting on base or seeing some better

1161
01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:38.399
pitches because they're trying to get let
you get, you know, get yourself

1162
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:41.800
out, and we'll just have to
wait and see what happens, because once

1163
01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:44.520
that month turns to May is usually
when Alex turns it on. But a

1164
01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:46.720
couple more days in April, I
said this before they went on their eight

1165
01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:49.600
game trip. There are two games
remaining, and they're there in Mexico City.

1166
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:55.439
Alex Bregman would return to Houston with
a home run. He's not yet

1167
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:59.840
hit one this year. Do you
think this statement will be proven true?

1168
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:04.239
After Saturday and Sunday's game, at
least one of the five Astros who have

1169
01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:09.800
not yet homer this season will change
that over the next two days. John

1170
01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:13.920
Singleton, Jose Bray, You,
Chaz McCormick, Alex Bregman, and Greg

1171
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:16.640
Cassinger. At least one of them
will homer over the next two days,

1172
01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:20.520
starting tomorrow. Yeah, it's going
to be Braggy. Braggy's going to be

1173
01:23:20.520 --> 01:23:24.119
my first guy, and then I
think if I had to pick a backup,

1174
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:29.159
it would be Oh Man, I
wish I'd want to say Chaz,

1175
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:30.960
but some of the swings I've seen
haven't really kind of dictated that he's going

1176
01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:35.880
to be able to elevate the ball
in these circumstances. But I think Alex

1177
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:41.119
Bregman at least gets you one in
the next two days for sure. How

1178
01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:45.520
far dos Jordan hit one there?
Oh? Man, I can't wait to

1179
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:47.520
see that. I hope that they've
got somebody that throws one hundred miles an

1180
01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:51.760
hour in their bullpen and then he
challenges them and she just squares it up

1181
01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:56.520
because I want to see it.
The one word that I love is malevolence,

1182
01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:59.199
and I haven't seen an act of
malevolence this season, and I want

1183
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:02.199
to see some serious anger and you
know, pent up aggression in some of

1184
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:04.840
these swings. And if Jordon's able
to go out there and clip one,

1185
01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:10.079
I would imagine it's going to get
close to five hundred feet in this altitude.

1186
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:13.680
I cannot wait. Well, they
should just come to my house during

1187
01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:16.199
some of these losses and they can
just bottle some of that malevolence because it'll

1188
01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:19.600
be there for you. Hey,
Blummer, we appreciate the time, especially

1189
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:24.159
on your birthday, have a happy
one, and of course, as always,

1190
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we appreciate the people who make it
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recover from some of my workouts is
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and of course there will be many
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1204
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had receiving in preparation for tomorrow's game. Looking forward to it, Have fun

1205
01:25:23.079 --> 01:25:25.880
there south of the border, and
look forward to catching up with you when

1206
01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:30.319
you get back to the States.
Happy birthday, Thanks Ellos I appreciate you,

1207
01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:32.119
thanks for having me on. Absolutely. Jeff Blum here on Sports Talk

1208
01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:38.880
seven ninety live and in living color
from Mexico. All right, Jeff Blum,

1209
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:43.560
so of many of the things that
we can react to in terms of

1210
01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:47.880
what is needed for this Astro team
talked about a little bit at the beginning

1211
01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:51.399
of the show. If you're listening, well then you'll probably know the answer

1212
01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:56.119
on this test. But in this
case right here, it comes down to

1213
01:25:56.239 --> 01:26:00.279
one group and one group only.
We will talk about that as we close

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out. Close us out with some
Astros conversation here on Space City Saturday.

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Dan Matthews here with you on your
home of the Astros and the Rockets Sports

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Talk seven ninety Welcome back to Space
City Saturday on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Hey, Dan Matthews here with you
for about another ten minutes or so as

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again Astros and the Rockies from Mexico
City, the Mexico City Series. We've

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heard from Jeff Blum there on the
A Team yesterday, and part of what

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he talked about was part of what
I talked about at the beginning of the

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show. Is the Astros if they
are going to climb their way out of

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this it's going to come down to
one group, and one group in particular,

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hitters have to hit. I mean
that is the long and short of

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it, from beginning to the end. And this last week, I mean

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not even close. The only thing
that you could point to possibly and it

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was still a winnable game was Wednesday
in Chicago against Jameis and ty Own.

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And you know, it was another
day where you found yourself down early,

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but two at the same time.
I mean, over the course of one

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sixty two you have to be able
to come back and win some of those

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games too as well, and the
Astros had every single opportunity to be able

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to do that, and the hitters
yet again not coming through. I mean,

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how many times this season have we
seen runners in the scoring position for

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Jose al Tuove or for Alex Bregman, or for Jianor Diaz and it's goose

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eggs. It's nothing. And that's
what the Astros have a scene for the

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better part of these twenty six games. And if you want the next twenty

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six and the twenty six after that
and on down the line to get any

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better, well that has to get
better. Because I talked about it.

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The only runs batted in this year
with runners in the scoring position for Jose

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al Tuove two Saturdays ago, maybe
even three now, but it was you

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know, two weekends ago against the
Rangers and that Saturday game where he had

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a two run double. I mean, that's what you need to see out

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of him. Kyle Tucker the same
deal. You need to see that out

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of him. Jordon Alvarez the same
deal. You need to see that out

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of him. I mean, you
know, talked about Chas McCormick as well.

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He has struggled here in the early
going, and that's part of it

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as well. You know, we
focus on the front of the order for

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the Astros, but the problem has
also been I mean the guys in the

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back end of the order. I
mean, I understand what the situation is

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at first base with Jose A.
Bray you but at the same time though

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too as well, Chas McCormick not
done enough. Janer Diaz with runners in

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scoring position has been almost non existent. I mean last year we talked about

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it all the time of the injuries
the Astros had by Jose al Tuove and

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by Jordon Alvarez, and you were
able to get good contributions out of Mauricio

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Dubon. I mean, if it's
not a runner in scoring position situation for

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Maricio Dubon, he has struggled at
the plate and that has to improve.

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McCormick. I mean, a guy
when you had some of those injuries last

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year and he needed somebody to step
up he did in this season, he's

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not been great. And I mean, you know, we can talk about

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the pitcher is all we want the
back end of the bullpen. Yes,

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it's been disappointing in terms of what
you've been able to get as a you

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know, overall workload and production from
Brian A. Bray, you from Ryan

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Presley and from also Josh Hater,
but two at the same time. I

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mean, you haven't necessarily given Josh
Hater regular work because you're not in the

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lead for most of these games.
So his routine probably thrown off a little

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bit. But I get it though
too, and he would tell you that

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whenever I'm out there, I need
to get the outs and I need to

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close out that game. Same deal
with Ryan Presley as well. So I'm

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not, you know, necessarily absolving
them of blame. But it's also too

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I mean, you know, when
you're in those high leverage situations. Regularity

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is huge in order to be able
to ensure strong results from being put in

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those spots, and we have not
seen that. But two at the same

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time, I mean, I mean, you know how many times have we

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looked at an Astros game and said, that's not enough runs. You need

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to add on, you need to
add insurance. And they just have not

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been able to do that. And
until that gets better, this team will

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continue to struggle. And it's been
frustrating the watch. And you know,

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it's also too you know, things
that are correctible, because what's correctable about

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this hit the ball, and not
only hit the ball, but you've got

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runners on base. I don't need
singles, I need doubles. I need

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extra base hits. I need,
you know, being able to keep the

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line moving that way. I need
the huge hit. We have not,

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really, for the most part this
season, seen that. And you know,

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we've seen spurts here and there.
The Blue Jays series that was nice,

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the Rangers series, that was nice. But the team's success was going

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to be predicated on how well they
hit the baseball this year, and that

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has not happened. And it's been
frankly incredibly disappointing to watch this season from

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this group because that was coming into
this I remember when we had channeler Rome

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outside a Minute Made Park before opening
Day against the Yankees, and I mean

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exactly what he said was true.
If this team hits, they'll be in

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position. If they don't, well, then we're looking at what we're looking

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at right now. Because that's really
been the long and short of it.

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So the video I put out earlier
in the week where I said, you

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know, the answer is pitching,
the answer is hitting. The answer is

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yes, to some part it is. But I would say the overwhelming majority

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of the issues with this team this
year they have not hit the baseball and

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they've not hit it meaningfully in what
I mean again, runners in the scoring

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position, and not only with runners
in the scoring position, guys on base,

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not just a single to score one
run. You're gonna need crooked numbers

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in these innings. You're gonna need
three, four, five runs. And

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I understand a major league baseball that's
a tall ask. But if you're going

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to try to get on a run
here, the bats have to heat up

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for them to get that opportunity to
do that. And it's almost to a

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point right now, where the Astros
have been so good for so long that

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it doesn't necessarily matter who's in the
opposing dugout. It comes down to them,

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and to some case it still is
because that has been really all of

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these nineteen losses this year. They've
been because of what the Astros did not

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do. They didn't get the out, they walked a guy, you know,

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and then the other team was able
to hit the three run homer or

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do whatever to get the lead and
keep the lead. And that's the other

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part of it as well, circling
back to the hitting. I mean,

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you got to see this team come
back in the seventh, eighth, ninth

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inning in a game. I understand
that you're facing their better pitchers. I

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get all of that. I understand
it. But two at the same time,

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if you're going to turn this thing
around, you have to be able

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to turn that trend around. What
was it last Saturday, thirty eight to

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five being outscored after the seventh inning, now nineteen to three in the ninth

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inning. I mean, numbers like
that are why you're a seven to nineteen

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baseball team and not any better than
you are right now. And they've had

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winnable games that they've none been able
to close out, and I think that

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if nothing else, hopefully again,
you know, we've been attaching hopefully a

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lot to this season, but hopefully
this series against the Rockies is a chance

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for them to turn it around,
because if not, I mean, this

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is going to finally become a mental
block of this is who we are and

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this is what we're going to be, and it becomes a long season at

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that point, and the Astros have
an opportunity to make sure it becomes less

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of a long season by hitting the
baseball and being able to put your position,

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you know, your players in positions
where they're not having to guard against

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one run leads and you know,
having to you know, for themselves out

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there, because I think that probably
is kind of permeated to the pitching staff

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as well. I got to make
the perfect pitch here because I don't know

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if they're going to be able to
bring me back in this one. So

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this pitch is incredibly important. And
I think that it's hard to play the

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game that way, and that's the
way that they've been playing it for some

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time. Well. I think Melvin
and am back in the studio for keeping

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us on the air and making us
sound great. Great job by those guys.

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Want to thank all of you out
there for listening to us here on

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Space City Saturday. You got Ross
Villarriale coming up again four o'clock with Astros

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on deck to get you ready for
the Astros and Rockies a little bit later

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01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:21.439
on. Until next time, This
is Dan Matthews has been Space City Saturday

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on your home of the Astros and
the Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety

