Proving you can teach an old dog new tricks. Yes, good boy.
From the Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dodge
J Brawn. It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
Thanks for getting your pod on, Thanks for telling a friend, and
that's how we spread the word about the pirate ship. How's how's everybody doing
today? Danny, You're good, doing well? Man? Yeah, feeling
pretty good. Kevin feeling pretty good. Tired, but I'm good. What's
tired? Tired? I was dragging earlier today too. I don't know all
that race of the g forces pulling on you. I gotta tell you something,
fellas. I've never done the drag. I've done road courses, I've
never done drag racing. I've seen you in drag and the quarter mile is
like, I mean, you're just punching it right. So there were a
bunch of cars that were brought out, and it was Steve Mills, who
I've known for a while. He works at Castle and he's hooked me up
with some some of the guys down an Empire dragway. And then it was
a guy who I've never met before. But I've seen his car collection,
which is like a weird thing, right, somebody. They got me into
his warehouse and it's two tiers of cars all around. I mean multimillion dollars
worth of cars. He brought down a bunch. It's Tom Terry from from
formerly of Terry Tree Services that he sold that business they, I mean,
he brought down all kinds of vintage stuff and the guy's got you know,
tons of money. So he also had a Demon there, a Dodge Demon,
which carm text me yesterday, Yeah, what are you racing? And
I tell him and he's like, next time we go, you gotta come
with us. So I guess they do this too, do dragging or whatever.
So I was like, absolutely, I would love that. So the
Demon is like built right off factory spects to just go and either road race
or drag race. But Tom has it with with slicks on it, and
slicks are just the tires that are going to be better for racing. So
they take me out and they show this is how you drive the Demon because
it's got traction control because it's also a road car, right, so everything's
already built in, but you've got to drive in a certain way, so
you just have to take like your foot off the gas and punch the foot
off the brake and punch the gas. You know, almost like there's a
there's a sweet spot in there. So the first time we're on some side
roads and I did it, and I got the sweet spot, and I'm
like, yes, and I did it again. I got the sweet spot.
When I actually did it on the track, I didn't, but I
got it up. We got one hundred and twenty four miles an hour,
which was you don't even really feel like you're going that fast in that in
that car. It's amazing how well built that thing is. And then the
other one was Steve Mills has just a truck. It's a Chevy S ten
nineteen ninety that's been redesigned. So those used to be really fast. Yeah,
well they be really light too. Yeah. Well, light and fast
is what you want, right so on the quarter mile, So in this
thing, they have it. So you push a button and it's basically your
break on the steering wheel and you put the gas all the way to the
floor and then just as the last yellow light on the tree hits you take
your foot off. Well, the whole thing goes what I practically picks up
inside. It took me three or four times, but I got on just
over ten seconds in the corn mile's not great, but not bad. And
about one hundred and nineteen miles an hour tends used to be the worst in
the winter. Two you have to put ten twelve standards salt in the trunk,
got it. That's just a freaking hold of the ground. Why,
it's a great So it's a great drag vehicle. And they never made four
wheel drives out of them, right, they were just those They were just
like light trucks. Yeah, you could probably pick it up with your hands.
I mean they could. They're fast. But I gotta tell you,
like I was buzzing all all all night. I came back in here and
I was doing some works and stuff, and I'm like, man, I
could just feel my adrenaline's still going. It was just so awesome, the
whole thing. It's just it's such a there's something about going over one hundred
miles an hour where I not on the Thruway right exactly, But I mean,
you know, I had a helmet when I did the truck, I
had a helmet on and everything. I mean the other car is so equipped
you we're gonna have airbags popping out everywhere. Should be fine, but it's
nineteen ninety one not so much. So I had a helmet and a fire
jacket on, and I'm like, god, damn, I could this could
be something I could get into. And if you pop an airbag and one
of those are gonna probably be pissed at you. Oh probably probably probably gonna
get your ass cagged. Probably, But I mean, god, it's like
it's like Disney for adults, you know what I mean. It was like
it was just it was a great day. It was cool guys to hang
out with. You know. They got a lot of cool cars. That
fun part of my ignorance. But were these all standards like all sticks or
were they're they're automatics? They're they're all automatic? Well you could do it
either way. A lot of the modern cars now that are built that way
or paddle shift, so everything's on the steering wheel. Oh okay, So
because experienced that before, Well that that's how like a lot of the important
that's a camera bro so like the like like the Demon is all paddle shift.
So if you were gonna I said, put it in automatic because the
guys like you gotta be real quick on your fingers. I like, go,
I'm not Eric Clapton. I'm not gonna be getting the fret there,
So I go just put it in automatic so that way it'll pop automatically.
The U S ten is another one that it'll just it basically is two gears.
It's first and second and that's it, and so it'll pop into second
on its own. And then but you've got to like Worsen, you know.
But they redid that whole transmission and everything and they rebuilt it all and
they're charging batteries. It was just it was just fun. It's just fun.
It's just it's just like, I don't know, guys blown off steam
and going over one hundred miles. Play some good tunes while you're ripping down
the dragstrip. There was a lot of country radio and I heard the new
Stone song playing over the speakers overhead. But the track was basically closed.
It was just open to a couple of people. It was like a private
little event there, and it was great. You didn't play Born to Be
Wild or did not truck on the way down. Speaking of that stuff,
we should check in with our buddy Race and Randy, who was sending me
to Hey, buddy, I thought you were gonna race with me. Oh
yeah, he's a little but hurt. I think I think so. But
before we layers of matchbox cars, before we call, before we called Rac
and Randy. Uh, it's the weekend, and I know where Kevin's gonna
be bTB wood Fire Pizza and Grill, the mall of grease, you know
what, Buffalo. Let me throw a quick thing in here because I did
see this on Facebook today. You guys would know who this is more than
I would. But this guy sort of transcended the wrestling world. Mick Foley.
So Katie Eber, who is in uh seven Wonders, which is a
Fleetwood Mac tribute band, was badly injured and it looks like she's just amazing.
I've been following on social media and her recovery and she has uh I
think it was paralyzed from the waist down. But I saw her like she
was able to Yeah, which is a great sign. Yeah, I don't
I don't know what that means. I don't know anything, but I go
God, the fact that this this woman is so strong internally, you know,
in her mind and all I feel like but that she's done a great
job. Well, there's a big event on Saturday down at the conventions in
her correct yes, so is it all day? I believe it's all day.
I don't know when it starts. But they have a silent auction And
one of the things you can been on is to have lunch at bTB with
Mick Foley. That's pretty cool. bTB On November eleventh, Mick Foley's coming
into Rochester and if you have the highest bid at the benefit for Katie,
you will get to have lunch with Mick Foley. At bTB. You can
have a bill of fried fly blowney sandwich with Practice Jack. How cool is
that he was one of the scariest wrestlers when I was a kid. He
seems so truly consequences New Mexico. He's actually from Long Island. He just
seems really sweet, like oh yeah, I mean I should find the Facebook
message that he put out. Well. Jim Jim Cornett who does a wrestling
podcast. He's a long time wrestling manager and promoter. He says that Nick
Foley is like the nicest guy in the wrestling business and too nice to be
in the wrestling business. He just he just came across really sweet, and
I thought that, I go, boy, what a nice thing for him.
And he did a video it's him talking about it. Hey, he
goes because the last time I was, you know, I was there,
it used to be called this but bTB, I'm excited to go. You
and me having lunch November eleventh, I go, what a what a he's
he's in town. Here a lot he's got I think he's got a friend
with somebody in the front off of the Red Wings. He comes to the
Red Wings games all the time. He's also friends with a couple of bands
in town. Two some people in some bands. Is that where Tina Guarini
know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a funny story. He
was doing a night at the Old Comedy Club, which in Webster, Yeah,
and he came over to watch her band and they struck up a conversation
and her husband, Chris Grenary, who's also in the Fat Cats, is
a huge like Rustling fan, big Ultimate Warrior fan, and they all started
talking. He comes every time he comes to town. He goes and sees
them. Well that I mean whatever, he's just I mean, I'm sure.
Guys like that get requests to do a lot of things. Oh yeah,
I thought that was very nice, and I thought it was really cool
that it was bTB that was donating the lunch clearly for this event, and
I went there, it is Mark Hillman excluded? Or do you have to
pay extra for Mark? He's just sits at the corner watching look at look
at man? Get him at free? What a what a great guy,
Matt Reese? Is that that's you know, yeah, that's all cool?
Their stuff? Get over there one in the towards the end, in the
middle to the end of the month. Here you can get that hollowpen new
Popper burger, which is fantastic. I had the uh the brisket with the
stuff peppers, which was fantastic over rice, and then Kevin had the I
had the flaming hot cheetle mac and the one that I had that Mountain burger
that we're talking about with them. Oh you did, yeah, I sent
you the picture. Oh that's right. Yeah. How how long did d
eat? I can only eat half of it? Was that pig? It
was that? Really? Did you bring it home? Absolutely? Yeah,
you gotta bring it home. Reheat that the next day. That's some good
stuff. Uh bTB wood fire, peach and grill in the mall at Greece
Ridge. Let's call our buddy race and Randy. Let me see from you
won't go hungry at bTB. You won't race and Randy. Hey, buddy,
think what's going on? Well? Randy calling me to tell you that
I did a little racetion yesterday. Buddy, I cheat on you. Yeah,
yeah, you did cheat. I mean you some bitch healthy irish hor
Randy. I did in the quarter. I got a ten eight nine at
one hundred and nine. Good, buddy, one hundred and nine first time
out. Yeah, one hundred and nineteen nine point nine four miles per hour
at the quarter at the quarter. No, I thought that was pretty good.
And that was in a Chevy S ten nine. That's about how fast
my street car was back years ago. Yeah, okay, And then I
did a demon. I don't know what my time was, but I know
I hit one hundred and twenty four miles an hour. There you go,
that's moving, buddy. Yeah, man, that demon is something mag Jesus.
Randy. That is just what year do you remember? Oh, it's
like a it's a brand new Oh, yeah, I think it's a twenty
twenty two. That's close enough. Yeah, I think it's a twenty twenty
two. We get down to Carvanna, you might they might give you half
the money for it. It only goes to quarter miles. Only got fourteen
miles on it. So so they gave you a demon and not the healthcare
but a demon. Yeah, it was Tom Terry's demon, Tom Terry Terry.
Yeah, yeah, demons are are are nice, They're bad. That's
that's that's so my son. Now here's the thing now, my son,
uh who. I was kind of proud of this because I go, you
know what young people today. I kept thinking out there yesterday it was a
bunch of like older guys right now. It's also in the middle of the
day. It's not you know, it was all day. These guys got
there. I think I got their round twelve thirty in high end cars.
So success like like like off on a Tuesday. Yeah, so these guys
were, uh that. I was thinking about this because my kid writes me
and goes, is that a demon? And I and I said yeah,
and he goes, that is one of my dream cars. And I said,
wow, maybe sometime we'll get you behind the wheel one and I thought,
that's kind on a cool that we have that because this this device right
here to the phone. Yeah, it's people don't leave their bedrooms or their
homes anymore. You got everything you want there, everything from porn to your
friends, to people you haven't met yet. They're they're all here. Everything
is here. The universe comes to is right there. There's like star Dad
goes, it's not it's not a phone. It's literally a computer with a
phone app. But it's it's the exactly it. But I mean everything you
can watch you What did I have to do for entertainment as a child?
I had to like read the back of the box of the cereal at breakfast,
Yeah, or throw throw a ball at tinfoil at my brother, or
farting a ziploc bag and try to gas out my sister out of her room.
That it took work, because my point, entertainment took work. Not
anymore, not anymore. But I was happy to see that with my kid.
I was like, look at that, So Randy, what do you
have going on this weekend? It's speaking of racing this weekend as their last
race of the year from South Butler's usually it's our big this race. The
most cars we've ever had is the last September we had one hundred and seventeen
cars racing, which is a track record we've done. Except for this year.
We've had one hundred and five cars for the first two races and we
had one hundred and thirteen last month, so we have had quite a few
cars, a couple of great racing going on. A lot of dupe people
come out checking out the track. Brandy, Randy, what's going on right?
No, I'm cooking on the grill. I'm cooking on the grill.
Jesus Christ banging around over there? What are you banging buddy? They come
on the freezer. They're hard, you know, they're like, you know,
mcmah true, have you got what do you got frozen burgers on there?
Homemade frozen burgers? Tracy makes your own, makes your own. Let
me freeze him and then yeah, yeah, it's a great ideas are idea,
but they sound like it sounds like hockey bocks that are banging around on
this thing. All right, So using my buffalo, using my buffalo,
bill growth things, I was just slow. I'll give you for them.
Get a little buffalo seared into the burder. Yeah, I like that,
the right Kevin Kevin Kevin, So Randy, this isn't kind of exciting.
Then now you're gonna have what'd you say, food trucks and DJ who's down?
There will be no DJ this time. We just this is just race.
But we'll have the food trucks. You have an ice cream truck,
imprint coffee will whether you're getting hot or cold coffee. Big Dandy's Barbecue will
be there, a little red wagon food truck will be the food wagon'll be
there. It's gonna be a great time. It's ten bucks to get in
if you want to race this thirty bucks and your race all day. We
got reaction time trollies. Hey, what was your reaction time? I don't
glaut coma. Let me see. Let's see. Reaction time was by sundial
right, yeah, like one. Okay, so reaction time. I don't
think I had reaction time on let's see. You just want to let you
know the reaction time. The reaction time on one was bad. It was
like point six two boys six two ain't been, and then on another one
ain't been, And on another one it was point two seven, And that's
watching time from when the light goes green, so when you hit the gas
and start going, yeah, I know, it's when you had a light.
Usually when you had a light to you passed through the beam, right,
Like my best I've ever done is all one. You want it perfectly,
but one, you want all one. I mean, the point six
is ridiculous, but the point two, I guess is okay. I just
it was Buddy, I got guys, this guy's at the trick to come
to race at our trick would do this point six two, I give me.
I got guys like, come down. I think they're having a sandwich.
And Wayne Bourn the league. That's what I'm saying. It's it went
in the world of racing, drag racing, which I don't know much about.
I'm learning, but that was, yeah, that was the time of
that. So I had the slips and I actually ran home to grab them
because I go, I'm gonna talk to tell Randy all this stuff. Man,
But Randy, I gotta tell you, like I can't sit and watch
the races over and over and over. And I don't mean to be disparaging,
but god damn if I if I knew that. In five more cars,
my turn's coming up. I'm in, I'm in. I loved it.
That that was a thrill, an absolute thrill. How many times did
you run just the tour? No? I did one, two, three,
seven times? I think, yeah, seven times. Now once once
you get one, leave me, buddy, once you get the bug,
all year in all time. You know all that. Yeah, well that's
a thrill. I was stopping and I was pricing out my own cars.
I was pricing out my own cars. But you know, Steve's son,
Josh does a hell of a job with these cars. Yes he does.
He really does. Get him in his day. Are probably two of the
best car builders in this city. Rise you're easily. I agree. They
do a hell of a job. So and and just just good people.
I mean, everybody goes a really good guy, but there's just assault of
the Earth's kind of people. I really am a huge fan of them.
And uh we hung out to Randy and Iron in the Mills not too long
ago. Hey, Randy, have you ever heard do you know anybody who's
ever keyed somebody's car keeps their car? Oh? Oh yeah yeah. Talked
about this with Randy. Okay, back in the kitchen days. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I've heard of I've heard of that a whole problem,
buddy. Okay, have you ever worked almost got? I almost got my
car keyed once? What was her name? I wasn't herd with a guy
who was sitt up because I took his girlfriend and he had some fluce teeth
when he got done. Oh wait, he thought you were messing with his
girlfriend or you were. Yeah, yeah, no I wasn't. He thought
I was, and he was going to keep my car and he found out
that key don't with his son, don't shame. Wow. And he found
out and he had some loose when he got done. So you hit him?
Huh more than once? Wow? He's great in my car. You
can get man. Okay. Have you ever heard of someone keying a person?
Then I can. I know what people have been hit, People with
keys in her hands, key somebody. So I'm looking through the times in
Wayne County and that's what made me think of the key in the car.
There's a woman there named Bonnie Maduro Manduro. Bonnie Manduro. Now Bonnie Manduro
must have been hacked on Facebook, because she's got three different pages, three
different Facebook pages. But Uh, she got really pissed off, I guess
at her man and swiped a key, a car key across his body.
Which there aren't many cars that have keys anymore. Most of them are fobs
today, right, Randy, Right, you have some have fives with keys,
a multiple regular but a regular keyhole, but some five. Yeah,
Randy, my car has a fob. But if you open up the father,
there's a key inside the fire. That's what I'm saying. In the
five, it almost comes out like a switch blade. Yeah. Oh so
this bitch she went across the body of a man she had a relationship with,
causing several injuries, and she then fled the area. After the incident,
she got arrested. She's been in charge with felony assault, felony assault
in the second degree, physical injury with a weapon. I just never heard
of someone. But she had stole a Kia. Yeah, she's just having
a part. Yeah, uses a Kia. Yeah, car key to keys
somebody? Uh huh. You know you know what they say in three one
five, We'll go ahead, Randy, that's just normal for three. I
was gonna say Tuesday, she sounds like a treasure. In three one five
she's not. I can't say I do not know her, but I know
now, don't walk around with keys in her car away where we don't keep
walking away. Yeah, it could be. It would be an id fan.
I thought she sounds like a treasure and if she's not careful, you
may end up needing a map and a shovel of find. Hey, Randy,
good buddy. Did you see that Hallmark has revealed its full slate of
holiday movies? No, that I have not being trazy, haven't. I
haven't been. We watched a couple of we watched a couple of new ones
we have, but one called Fourth Down in Love. We've watched that.
We now, I thought that was a good one. Yeah. Remember,
but we've been we've been into the into the podcast or that podcast streaming,
uh, murders in the building. Okay, we've been. We've been in
We've been. Yeah, we've been into that pretty much lately. Okay,
But Hallmark comes that we try to catch him, as you know, like
last weekend was no good. I would at the Bill game and then you
know, and I we had racing once Starday night with Justin harrickt memorial that
you know, Justin finished second and tried to Eric Rudof just couldn't catch him.
But you know, was a great race and uh a great time for
everybody. You know. It's just but lately a homemark four down The Love
was the newest one we've seen it when we when we saw that, I
actually finally got a chance to watch called Romance and Style. I've seen like
the last fifteen minutes of a fifteen times. They've finally got to watch most
last week. Sometimes well I only got a chance to watch. No.
But these are the holiday movies they just they released the list. It's forty
new original movies and the first one kicks off Friday, Rock October twentieth.
It's called Checking It, Checking in twice, Checking in it seem checking checking
checking it twice, checking it so checking it is a Christmas movie? Yeah,
Checking It twice YEP. Starring Kim Mattulo and Kevin McGarry. I have
no idea who those people are, but this year you you get your your
girl Lacy Chabert, Severt Shavert look at that. Excuse me? Wow?
I thought it was like chatter bait. Uh. Lacy Shabbert and Felicia were
shot are going to be in a couple of Felicia shot, yeah, and
a couple of these. That's going back these Hallmark movies and they's wife right,
was the Hallmark where they put something in the drink back from prison?
All right, Well, racing Randy, but enjoy your burgers, and I
hope everything goes fantastically well at South Butler on Sunday. Well, just kind
of hope once out for the weather. I've seen the three different reports.
So what's going to be rain? No rain, Just come on out,
because I'll tell you right now. I left my house when it's been pouring
and got to South Butler in the sun shining race. And if it does
right out there, the rains for two minutes, we run a few cars
up and down and truck about half fine, and we go back racing.
Okay, stuck in the big crowd. Come on now, has some fun.
It's only tenth mile. I mean, if you've never I said,
if you've never race, like you, Bill, I thought it would have
been a perfect check for you to learn. Now, but now you're in
the big leagues, I don't have to worry about that no more. So
I figured it out right to the major. But let me see you got
well, no it's not him, he's too young. That's okay. I
mean you have to start up a race sometime. I got to get me
a car and give me a few wind up shots so I can get my
reflexes back to where they used to be. All right, I would do
that. I would do that. Yeah, we need I tell you,
I need to get a car. And I wish you could find a Duster
like I drove had a Duster that I actually my last car I had was
three forty. Duster was Fords drove still far away and I love that car,
which I still had. That true, I hadn't gotten married, I
didn't have kids that still have it. Yeah, bamn, kid damn kids
and wives and take every good, every good thing away, Randy. Now
they don't. The wife wanted me to keep up. I knew it couldn't
afford now would have having kids. Man, kids come, Family always comes
first. Man, you got it, But believe me, someday someday,
hey check, I'll put tracing a current race would be a little ass.
All right, I can't wait. You gotta get his reflexes though back.
I can't wait. Randy doing yoga poses before the big showdown. I can't
wait. We're gonna do it, Randy. This is gonna happen, buddy.
Oh yes, that's funny. It will happen. We'll get it.
I just got finding a car, and I don't see if I can find
a car, somebody'll find me one. Al right, sounds good? All
right? Yeah, okay, guys, talk to you. A great week.
Guys, have a great weekend, you too. Go Bills, Go
Bills, There goes racing, Randy. Speaking of Go Bills, we will
talk to Peter Montemorrow, who was who has broken down the All twenty two
film. I think you looked at the All twenty two as well. Yeah.
I watched the condensed game for both the Bills, and I watched the
Washington Denver condensed game. Okay, and the Commanders. There's some stuff to
worry about. I like one step away now with this driving though, from
being in a demolition derby. That would be I do not want to be
there. That would be you in the demolition due. You would love it.
I would not. Absolutely. No, you gotta find a beater,
no, because I uh, we got a guy. We got a guy.
My sons have an uncle that does a demolition Derby, and I've gone
to demolition Derby and I've been around the derby cars and all that, and
it just doesn't look like fun to me. I don't want the three cars
out for being too reinforced. Oh really, yeah, you're get out of
here, guys, that's serious. I thought the same thing though with with
drag Race. I'm like, this can't be fun. I like the road
course. We got to take the turn and you're you know, slowing quick
out that kind of thing, and man, once it was just dropped the
hammer and go I'm like, this is a thrill. What a thrill?
Did you get a no shit at all at any point during the day where
he kind of gotta loose at all every time? Oh and not not with
the demon, but ever with the S ten a few times because the yes
ten, at least the first time you don't forget you're putting in the gas
always to and then you release the button well practically box like a horse,
so you get kicked back. So it took a minute to get used to
that. So how many pairs on their paths you go through? Yes?
Non, I don't. I didn't know. I don't ship myself in those
situations because what happens, just like racing, is you have no other thought
in your head other than what you're doing. That is the most zen I've
ever been. Is racing cars the most zen because you as much as I
meditate every morning, but it's always trying to you know, I recognize the
thought and you thought. Sometimes I get thoughts, you know, all that
it's not bad, but this is like you can't think of anything else.
It's just like you know, and at the end of every one of them,
I would let out a whoo because you're just so pumped, like when
you're going and you know, hitting one hundred and twenty hundred nineteen, it's
a it's a throw. I should have got one of those little phone mounts
for the car and videotaped yourself. I was, yeah, I should have.
I didn't. I asked other people to video, so any videos I
had on my social media other people took for me. But yeah, it's
cockpit. Can I think I like an in dash can would be Yeah,
be funny to see because I know I was gripping this series with a couple
of times, like really tight. But you're right, Kevin, because you
started to like drift to the left or right, or it grabs a groove
in the pavement because other cars have gone on it. It gets slick and
worn down, so you know, but they had good tires on that.
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after the Joh how dare I even say that? Oh? I mean that's
a good possibility. Oh, come on, they got buy by the hair
their chinny chin chin these last couple and one is there. Yeah, we'll
be down in Washington, So that's gonna be a lot of run, right,
and that's steady like has also has issues with like septic drainage. Oh
no, oh yea, it could be a sludge fest. Oh, there
could be three feet of water on the field. They could be him and
down the field. Oh yeah yeah. Uh with more on what went down
last Sunday when the Bills bounced back as we all expected them too, although
the first drive did have my summaging or not? Uh is Peter Montemorrow?
Who would what would you do? Break down the all twenty two there Bill,
so happy happy alumni weekend. By the weekend St. John's for sure
alumni weekend, I'll be there. Yes. Uh. May we talk about
real quick at Oliver? Yes we can, because back in the spring,
I'm pretty sure at Oliver signed a four year lucrative extension with the Bills and
a lot of times when guys get paid, and he said back then,
I feel like I'll outplay the contract. To be honest, that's just the
way I think. I just want to shut everybody up who said I was
overpaid or something like that. Just sit back and watch. And so far,
in two games, he's been a menace. And in the last game
he helped hold the coming back for the Raiders Josh Jacobs to minus two yards.
Yeah, pretty good. He was a different player this past Sunday.
There was a tenacity about him that I personally didn't see week one. Uh.
He he was disciplined, He did his job, he didn't jump gassed,
he didn't try to try to do another player's job, did his own
job and play with just this intensity. And you clubs off the screen and
looking at it, you can you can tell the first play in the game
he was five yards in the back. I mean, I'm like, okay,
he's ready to go. And obviously that drive, like you said,
Bill, I mean, they go right down the field and you know you're
you're worried. Right. There was some mistassignments and such, but he was
a different player and that continued the rest of the game where he was doing
his own job, just using his leverage and staying low to the ground,
and he did everything that you want out of that type of contract and out
of that type of playlet. So that was very encouraging because it was consistent.
He didn't take many plays off. Like I said, it's it's encouraging
to see how the guy like that. You need that, Danny. You
watched the condensed version of the game. Josh Allen thirty one thirty seven ye
two hundred and seventy yards three TVs. But most importantly, no picks and
no fumbles. How does that in your opinion? And then we'll see what
Peter thinks. How does that stack up against a really mess nasty front.
Yeah, for the Washington defense, they're back, they're not great against the
run, and then I don't think they have a strong secondary, but god,
they got some pass rushers. They got They do have pass rushers.
I mean, like you know, I mean you got Yeah, they're they're
fantastic at front four And I watched him. That's part of the reason they
came back and beat Denver on Sunday was because of that pass rush. I
mean Damon, I think it's Damon Payne. The nose tackle or the defensive
tackle was was incredible. So it was Chase Young, Montest what. They
all had a great game. Uh, if this turns into a slug,
I mean a run fest, you're you're gonna expect Josh Allen to run the
ball too. I mean, it's not gonna be just the other three running
backs. Allen's gonna take off and run. And he did get picked off
once, but it got called back for a penalty. So I mean,
you wouldn't Oh yeah, you got away. If he takes off and runs
with the football, I'd be afraid of him coughing it up as usual this
because you know that's the cowboy Josh. We'll see because I gotta put this
game on my shoulders now because it's close and we're running, so that could
be a problem. The Bill's offensive line, Pete, it ain't great either.
I mean, they had a better game last week, but it wasn't
like they were spectacular. Do you want Josh running in the slop though,
I mean, that's where ankles. I'm not saying I wanted. I'm not
saying I want him to. I'm saying he's going to where they're gonna run
plays that designed for him to run. That's what I think it's gonna happen.
Well, a couple of things that when I looked at this, you
know, one of the tiny things, tiny adjustments, you know, you
kind of try to look at I try to dig into and diagnose. One
of the things that the Bill's offensive line it against this D line is they
widened that D line out so their splits were a little bit wider on the
line of scrimmage. Now, When I say split, I mean the distance
between the garden, the center and the garden, the tackle and the tackle
and the tight end. So they widened them a little bit, so the
defensive line is going to widen a little bit to almost create a natural pocket
for Josh. And another thing that they did is they took the tight end,
whether it be knocks looking kave and did a little chip on Max Crosby
out there. They had that was important, Yeah, so they and they
would use it where it looked like maybe kin Kay was blocking and then he
peeled off and he was open in the flat or in the hook the curl
zone. Those are really good things designed by a coordinator to make sure you're
taking the pressure off your quarterback and allowing him to stand into the pocket and
not worry about a rush and look down your field and look down the field
and read your progression. So I like that what they did, especially widening
the splits a little bit and widen the d line. And when you do
that, when you widen the splits of the offensive line, you create natural
passing lines. So you can have a natural and a wide open passing link
for Josh Allen, especially if the defense doesn't do their job and they're jumping
gas as well. That passing lane is even wider. So you saw a
lot of that on Sunday and that really helped Josh. And I think another
thing that helped Josh was he was under center more he was he yes,
he was in the he was in the gun forty eight snaps. He was
under center twenty three now twenty three. That creates play action, that creates
you know, the ball disappears for what second the linebackers lose the ball because
Josh, you know Pivots, turns his back to the defense. Is it
going to be a run? Is it's going to be a pass. There's
so much you can do out of being under center, So that that was
he only did it. Interestingly enough, he was under center both fourth downs
when they went four, fourth and one, but everything else was first down
and second down. He was never under center on third name. So you're
creating situations for the defense to keep them guessing. Okay, And that's why
I think being understander is important, not just being the gun out game.
Do we worry about the weather in this game with the remnants of the hurricane
coming up the coast, What do they call that the Danny? The weather
is the great neutralizer, great equalizer. So I don't want to call it,
I don't want to call it, you know, worrisome, But it's
going to bring both teams closer together from a you know, from a talent
standpoint. You know you're gonna be able to be fast and cut on a
dime, and it's gonna be it's gonna be sluggish. Uh. And I
can't recall if the commander's field is turf or grass. I can't recall it's
gonna will make a difference. Of course, do we uh, do we
see a run game developing for Buffalo? Yes? Yeah, that was great.
That was great. It was and like I said, with it,
you know, the splits some things and create not only passing, are creating
running lanes, but you attack the perimeter, you attack the middle of the
field and the build I mean, And the best part about it was it
wasn't anything that they created overnight. Right, They've been practicing this all offseason
in mini camp and camp, and they were obviously able to showcase it because
you had a patient Josh Allen, you had a defensive we guessing you had
Josh Allen able to do some play action and then when you have the running
game that's working well, then you can use play action at the end of
the day to throw it down the field. Not saying, you know,
Josh drew all the way down the field. Didn't have the big bombs,
but he had patience and he had maturity, which is what I asked for
at the end of last week's show. Has to be more mature Josh Allen
coming into the Raiders game, and I think we saw it. But yeah,
the running game built absolutely in all of them, you know, everybody
with Tavius Murray, Damian Harris, they looked great. And I'm not saying
let's say it with Tavius Mergy when the MDP, I'm just saying, everybody
calmed down. I was reading Twitter, as you know, first three carry,
so there's the guy, guy, hold on it, hang on.
So but no, it's good to see the positive results from a total offensive
game plan. Was good to see for the fans for the team. Obviously,
the Bills know they have the ability to do it. Now they just
have to execute, and they execute it. I guess a pretty gosh start
good defensive front. Yes, you're right, the secondary is a little suspect,
but the up front, the defensive front of grade is very good,
very good. So what still concerns you after watching the All twenty two film?
Yeah, I knew there was something. Yeah, I can hear let
me hear me go, let me get my notes. So many things I
wrote down here now takes during the game, then it goes back during the
twenty two and takes notes. Yeah. So, well, I watched the
I watched the game as a fan, right, and then when I get
into the film, It's like, I'm not a fan anymore. I'm like
talk in the days of breaking it down to the coach, Right, I
don't I don't have I'm not rooting. There's no noise, there's no fans.
You're just watching. It's like actually watching Yell twenty two as if it's
almost like a high school tape. There's no fans, there's no noise,
there's nothing, and you're watching players play football. So you're not you don't
have any emotion behind it. You're just you're digging into it. So,
to answer your question, the thing that concerns me a little a little bit
again, up front on the D line, there are a couple of players
that are still doing what they want to do on certain times where you're creating
passing lanes for Garoppolo. If he was a little more talented, he would
have exploited, which happened against Zach Wilson. Jones was a little bit.
Decklon Jones is a little I'm concerned about that sometimes. I think Shack Louston
and f and s the needs some work. They are they're a little challenged
up there. I mean, again, I hate sounding like a broken record,
but you have to do your own job and can't try to do someone
else's job when you're out there. And who knows when you're out there.
And those guys aren't starters, right, they're coming in every now and again,
But who knows when you're out there. If you're not playing, you're
one to eleven, that could be that, that could be the game breaker,
that could be a big eight yard play or or move the chains.
But those are some of some of the things that concern me. Player concern
me a little bit, just to speed out there a little bit his angle
of pursuit. You know, I didn't isolate on him too much, Phil,
but it's just it's it's like not. It doesn't feel like the Jordan
Poyer of Olds. Now they got from a from a smart standpoint, from
a head standpoint. You know, he said he's out there helping call the
defense and getting people in the position. You cannot put a fremium on that
that that's important. But you know, rereact. I feel like he's half
a step behind. So when you when you're getting that position and you got
to you gotta change your game. It turns your angle of pursuit. You
know, when you're pursuing the football. Uh, you might not realize you're
you're a half a step behind. But after watching the film and those types
of things, and he probably doesn't want to hear that, but keep down
inside, he may know. So that's that's a little bit of a concern.
Not a major one, but just a little bit, just a little
bit. But yeah, I like I liked how the I just read one
thing in my notes against the negative, but I really like how the builds
attack the Kramer on the offensive side of the ball with Cook and and I
love how they use its tight ends. Everybody really loved it. Everybody got
a touch, everybody got the ball this past week. Yeah, yeah,
flipping sides, Peter, have you seen any type of Sam Howell yet?
Quarterback in Washington? They like to use the word gunslayer to describe I don't
like to use that word because it's it's like a it's a positive, it's
really a negative. And he's pretty well. He's almost like I don't want
to say, a poor man's Josh Allen, but he was doing some stuff
last week that made you like wonder, like, Okay, well, is
this the Josh Allen for twenty eighteen type of two point zero or something like
that? You know, every player? Like, that's your questions. Dan,
No, I haven't isolated on him yet. I haven't much on him.
I think I might just for fun tomorrow, when I have all this
time in the world that I have uh to funch game film, I'll take
a look and see what what he has to bring. But again, if
the Bills just play there there there, do their jobs later one eleven,
they're going to be successful on Sunday, I really believe. I don't think
Washington's going to go three and ow even with the weather. Yeah, I
think the Bills will be successful. We do. We need to be concerned
that. I think it's called the backers or the Bills Backers on Facebook put
out a picture of Josh Allen spotted in Toronto shopping for jewelry with Hailey Steinfeld.
Now, I don't know when this picture is. It doesn't tell me
if we're made to think it was probably earlier this week. I'm not sure.
But does that do we is at a distraction? And should we worry?
Should we try to get It's not the jewelry he pee. I think
players are better when they're married, to be honest with you. They're more
focused, They're not out of partying. They gotta come home. Ask Derek
Jeter that or tell Derek Keeter that. Well, yeah, yeah, it's
true. And he was awesome. Yeah he didn't have to Yeah, you
didn't have to worry about you know why, because he didn't have any nagging
don't have any so you don't have quarterback. It's a little bit different.
I don't know, huh. I don't know if it's been distilled. You
know, they have their days off, but I don't know what that constitutes.
Right, are you it's your day off just away from the facility and
you home watching film or is your day off a real day off or do
whatever the hell you want. Yeah, I don't know the answer to that.
I wouldn't now, that wouldn't. That wouldn't concern me. If he
drove a couple of hours to to go shopping, you know, it'll be
the story of the week if they lose. Yeah, well, yeah,
it's unfair. Just checking out the Hockey Hall of Fame. We'll see the
standwich exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but uh no. It was
good to see him back, like the patient, the mature yea, the
powerful, the excited, enthusiastic Josh Allen. That one pass to what who
is it is? U? Share? That passed the Shakir was amazing to
me. If the holes throws that ball, she is getting Bouquet's alan throws
that poet, it's pretty dangerous. You shouldn't well, Bill, like you
said last week, that's something you don't want the coaches to take out of.
That's the play right there. Yeah, that's what you gotta live with.
He knew what he was doing, yep, and then and it worked
out and so we all, yeah, feel better about that. I have
the bills in this one twenty eight thirteen. I like them. Wow.
Yeah, well, even Weather Weather fer minuted, yea, rather than per
minuted. I did. Actually, I didn't think of the weather when I
wrote that down earlier, so no, but I'll stick with it because I
did write it down, so that that'll be well. And you know,
it says a lot to me the way they came out that first play with
that Oliver you know, five yards in the backfield, big play, And
maybe they were so they were too enthusiastic, which led to some breakdowns in
that first series, But then they came back and they responded and obviously didn't
allow the rad score touchdown the rest of the game. Clearly something's happened during
this week in the film room in practice. Coaches were getting after these guys,
you know, getting after him in the film room, showing them the
mistakes they made. How could you do this? Those types of things.
I'm sure these guys were ready to get out here on Sunday and just show
everybody who the bills are. Yeah, and that came off the screen clear
as day. Yeah. Well, all right, well, I'll be excited
to hear what you think of this game. It should be a little bit
sloppy. Are you in the path of it too? Down in the Carolinas.
I've been watching so much film. I don't even know what's going on.
No idea. I don't think I think it's too bad. Yeah,
we got the elections. You want me to do a special election show?
Damn happy to help? Happy? All right, Thank you, Peter,
Thanks guys. We'll talk to you next week. There goes Peter. I
did not make my picks for this week. And I know that the we
have a game tonight. Well, you don't have to do them until the
game starts. She's got an tonight at least you gotta do. You get
Yeah, you gotta do the first game. I gotta go back, and
I got my picks right here. I was gonna tonight the first place.
I have. What I'm just saying it, it's a fact. How is
that? Stop bragging? I thought I thought he dropped. I was still
in the first place. I sent you the screen shot off who was where?
Yeah? I am uh I was picking in this one. Let me
see. Uh, I'm gonna pick the San Francisco forty nine ers off the
Giants. Yeah, that's tonight's pick. That's tonight. Then you've got Cleveland
and Tennessee Sunday. I like I think I like Tennessee and I took it.
I took Tennessee. Yeah, I think I like Tennessee, Atlanta and
Detroit. I'm taking Detroit taking Detroit at home. By the way, did
you see the Campbell, the head coach. There's like he let the tip,
he let the clock took down to zero. At the end of the
fourth quarter, they were tied, they had the ball to fifty, and
he just took it into overtime. I'm like, bro, go for the
win. Yeah, somebody people have been accusing of these coaches of trying to
affect the over unders well on the flips, on the flip side, the
rams. You know. McVeigh kicked the field goal to make it to cover
the spread. Yeah. And then when he was asked about it, instead
of saying, well, the league could come down the playoffs could come down
to point differential, he went on this long, rambling discussion. It's like,
oh, I wasn't expecting that question. Yeah, well, welcome to
gambling everywhere. Now it's gonna creep. She's gonna become federally regulated. You
went the next ten years because this is kind of like it's kind of like
investing in securities. Sure, it really is. That's that's a lot of
money changing it. Yeah, it's a tremendous amount of money changing hands,
that is for sure. Do you know they took all the end game for
Chubb? I think it was DraftKings gave all that money back. They didn't.
They didn't new people were gonna take the loss, and they just gave
the money back that I did not see. I think I looked up at
the TV. It's like, oh, were we all in here when that
happened? No, I was home by that point. I was home.
Yeah, I was. I don't know why. I felt like I just
I looked away for a second and I missed that play. And they're going,
how gruesome was now? I've seen the still shot where his knee is
like on the opposite flamingo. I don't know how you get up and walk
after. So it's the same toy he had blown out in college. So
I had been sitting there watching the game, and my stream is about thirty
seconds behind. I get a text message I think it was from Peter Bud
he don't watch the next play. If you've seen this, that was disgusting.
I go, oh, crap, what's go. So I looked down
and then all of a sudden, you hear Aikman and and Jim Joe Bucko.
Yeah, we're not going to show you the replay. It's just horrible.
Then on Twitter, everybody goes, hey, you want to see the
replay? It was it was bad. Thank you Twitter. All right,
we'll take a moment. A friend of mine came in earlier today. His
name is Steve Wrigley. He's from New Zealand. He is a comedian and
he's got a Oh he just sent me a text. He just sent me
a text this moment. He said, Dude, I had a great time
chatting with you today. Studio is fantastic. I think you're making good moves
with it. Yeah, and so we will hear Steve Wriggley, Who's got
a show awesome at the in the Rickles Room, and that's going to be
on Saturday night at Comedy at the Carlson And you are not gonna want to
miss this. He's got a special that he's he says he's not preparing for.
I think he is a little bit, but he's got a new special
that he's going to be doing. So check this out. Steve Wriggley.
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I've never seen a diamond in a flash, she thought, only because I
don't know any other artists from New Zealand. Yeah, I can't. I
know there are. I'm sure there are in the music industry. No,
we only had Lord. We've had Lord, and we had Peter Jackson and
that was it. That was it was all your contribution to the world,
that's right. We spaced him out a decade at a time, and so
we had Peter Jackson a film, and we had Lord for music. And
then we've got a guy called Mike who does it. He's a restaurant to
it. Okay, so he's going to be our next big guy. Okay,
I don't know who that is. Steve Wrigley is a comedian originally from
New Zealand. Hill. How are you. It's been a long time.
Yeah. So I always fascinated by people like yourself who come to the United
States, and I sometimes think the idea is just to check it out temporary
and you end up staying yes. And you've got to understand, I like,
lived in New Zealand for thirty five years before I came here. Right,
I've seen it. I've seen the whole thing. New Zealand is very
There's five million people in the whole country. You could if you folded you,
if you took the two islands and squished them to get a whole thing
fits in New York State. Okay, I've seen it into in so people
are like, why would you leave New Zealand. It's like asking a teenager,
why would you leave the bedroom. I'm like, because this other you
could live your whole life. Yeah, and never say this whole country that's
true, right, I mean, and some parts of it you do that
on purpose. There are parts of it that I doubt. There are parts
of it that are just fifteen minutes from where we're sitting, and I never
ever will go. It will not happen and I'm not doing it. The
studio is nice though. Look what we've done here. Yeah, it's a
new venture. Been moved left radio November of last year. Started this in
December at my kitchen table, and then by about February March, came over
to a studio. Yes, I couldn't work at home. I just I
couldn't this. You know what, as another as a fellow, well,
I mean you've upgraded now, you've got your own studios, so you're not
in the work at home club anymore. But as someone who's still there,
yeah, you made the right choice. It's hard. It's hard because you're
you're in the middle of your workflow and then you're like, Okay, I'm
just gonna go get something to eat, and you go into the kitchen.
But when you go into the kitchen, you gotta go through the laundry.
Yeah, and you're like, oh, I've got to fold that laundry.
And then you go into the kitchen and go, oh, I've got to
do those dishes. You know what I was finding too, is that a
lot of this because you know, we tape the we'll put this in tonight,
but we tape normally at six thirty in the evening, so then I
would record at it, do all my promos and stuff, and you're up
until midnight one o'clock. The kitchen's right there, so I would be eating,
and I put on a good fifteen to twenty pounds. So what you're
you're looking at me right in the eye as you say that. I feel
to tell me something. You're looking at me, Steve, and if you
really want to share those extra gigs, you gotta get this. Do you
know what I'm saying. And it's not what I'm saying at all. I'm
just saying like I noticed it. So I came here and it's taken a
long time. I'm fifty two years old. It takes a fucking long time.
But you don't look a day over fifty one. Thank you, thank
you. I appreciate that. It's very nice to you. So you've got
a show that you're doing. To add first of all, the raise your
eyebrow is that your own thing? Is that yours? Yes, that's awesome.
I love that, and it was I mean to jump in, but
I good, thank you. This is so I actually have buttons because what
you've got to do is because I'm starting this tour. Yeah, and comedians
that I know were like, look, you've got to have some merchandise that
you can sell. And I was like, get T shirts made. And
I was like, but then you got to chake a whole chick bag of
T shirts? You do? So I got buttons made. But I did
it all at the last minute. And I was sitting there like, but
buttons. You know, we call them badges in New Zealand. Yeah,
you call them buttons here. So I made one hoodie okay, but I
got these buttons. Have the race your third eyebrow on it. I spent
twelve dollars on an image of a mustache that I bought off a website and
asked, like, people keep saying to me, what does it mean?
Race your third eyebrow? And I'm like, what are you what are you
thinking? I think if you smile right there, you go, that's dead.
That's how I took it. I don't know. Am I wrong?
Yeah, you're you're correct, okay, because my thing is everybody has a
mustache. Yeah, Like it's about your eye. Your mustache is your third
eyebrow. Yeah, it's a third point of expression. Yes, that you
can use. Very good. Yeah, and everybody has one. Most people's
are just dormant. I'm just waiting you. I bet you could grow it.
Look, I can even see, yeah, I could grow one.
The shadow that is there. You look like you shaved two minutes ago and
it's already gone. You can't keep me down, Bill, I'm coming back
out of those cheeks. Man. I'm just like an old Italian woman,
keeps coming and going out. Listen, an Italian woman could grow a bit
of mustache than you think. It's not. Don't put yourself on that.
The west side of the city will find out. But I think the sweatshirts
would be great. Why not at least put them through a website that people
could buy him. That way, you're not carrying the merch with you,
but they could order him. Well, that's not a terrible idea, no,
because that's a shark. I'd like that. I would wear something like
that seriously for a job as a business manager, because not believing me,
I'm busier than I want to be. But I think this is fantastic.
This from what I gather, and tell me if I'm wrong. What you're
doing now is a warm up yes to a new special. I'm recording my
first album A yeah, and I'm really excited about it. I got super
lucky. Last year. I made a comedian called Doogie Horner. He was
on America's Got Talent like a while back and he's he's in with the Helium
Comedy club chain right, and he was recording that they've they've done what I
think is the smart thing to do, right like, and it's similar to
what you're doing here where they have gone. We need to make our own
independence with the independent Yeah, our own stories. We need to make our
own stats because, like you know, you get people comedians, they get
they make a name for themselves and then they're doing theaters and stuff and they're
not coming to the clubs anymore. So they're like, look, we'll set
up our YouTube channel and we'll do the shorts and we'll do the clips on
tech talk and Instagram and we'll see if we can build our own stats.
So he was filming a special for them and asked if I could come down
and do twenty minutes at the start, and they film that as well,
and then they called me up and we're like, yo, you're twenty minutes
that we filmed was so cool. We would like to put that up as
like a mini special on the YouTube page. That's amazing. Yeah, so
is that up there now? Yeah, that's up there now. So how
do people see it? You've got a Helium Comedy Studios, which is their
YouTube on YouTube page. Yeah, and they've got a bunch of stuff there,
man, and it's cool, Like, it's a really great way to
don't be friendly, don't don't do the New Zealand ship and start promoting everybody
out. Let's talk. Let's talk about me. You know, we are
America. We're narcissistic assholes in America, and if anybody says they're not,
they're a fucking liar. Look, let me do the American state. Everybody
else on that channel is trash. They have nothing but garbage from top to
bottom. But my thing is amazing. Wow, it's a pretty good American
accent. It went away. I was like, what happened? I've developed
it as a survival making why that accent is too cool? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah, this is good for when when I need it. But then,
like you try ordering coffee with this thing. It's a man. I'm
always like because they always asked for a name, Oh what name should we
put that coffee under, and I'm like, Steve, and then coffee for
Stove? Is there a stove here? And then I have to walk up
and everyone in the cafe is going, oh, there's a guy called Stove.
What an idiot? So I when I want a coffee, I legitimately
bill, I go, Hi, can I just get an extra large latte?
Please? Wow? Just and then like what's the name like that?
That'll be for Steve? Is it hard to do? You know? For
us, like trying to do an accent? Right? If I were to
try to talk like you, I wouldn't even attempt even gonna try. No,
But I have a buddy who's from Ireland, and when I get drunk,
I'll mimic him all day long, right, yes, right, yeah,
So you kind of get you know, you can do it in your
head, but it's not. It's a switch in there. But you gotta
understand. I think New Zealand the reason why, like every in New Zealand
is good at it. It's not like a thing that's unique to me.
But I think it's because we grew up with your television, right, because
how television is crap? Like we had CSI America which is amazing. They're
like three people were murdered. You couldn't do that, and you see asi
New Zealand would be like, all right, it looks like someone stole a
packet of chewing gum from a corner store. You know it's right. It's
so friendly and peaceful and beautiful from what I've never been that that's a part
of the world I'd like to see. Yeah, I mean go, I'd
only take you to weeks to see the whole thing. You don't need thirty
five years. Yeah, but I mean it is. It is a beautiful
place to go, and it's very relaxed. It's so different too. But
but I mean that's the thing. Like I like the energy here. Yeah,
there is an energy like you say, like you talk about how Americans
are like a holes and you know we're all about self emotion, but I
feel like it's not. But I also feel like what is amazing here that
we don't really have in New Zealand. As you guys also do love You
want to make your own success, but you love celebrating other people's, right,
I agree with that. I think there's a lot. I think if
you find the right group of people, I can't agree more. And you
know, I think it's I think you're seeing that more and more nowadays.
I even think you're seeing it in comedy, where there was a lot of
people with very shallow egos, right, not a lot of self esteem.
There were people that just didn't feel great about themselves. So the idea was
always out of fear to cut the other guy down. I mean, that's
a fear based thing. So when you're saying, there's other great guys in
here, I think that's a great thing to do. And to me,
a rising tide floats all boats agree, And I think not only does a
rising tides float or boats. What's great now is the harbor that we're in
is bigger because it used to be you know, a couple of decades ago,
the you know those claw machines they have, and the and the airport
where like comes down and your kids go, can I put a thing?
And it almost picks up a soft toy? But then doesn't you needed that
claw to come down? Comedy Central, let's say, needed to pluck you
from obscurity and say we're going to put you on television at eight o'clock at
night, and then everyone's going to see you and now you're on the club
circuit. But you needed to be chosen. And someone said this to me
a couple a couple of months ago. I thought it was a really beautiful
way to put it. Where it's like someone used to have to choose you
in order for you to make it in show business. But now with social
media, you need to choose yourself. You need to choose yourself, and
it gives people the option. I mean, look, you're seeing guys like
Matt Rife who have just blown up, and Matt Rife really did it,
and Matt you know, I like, I don't like the word overnight success
because Matt was part of the whole VH one. What is that? Oh
god, what is the name of the show that he was on? Wild
and Wild and Out? Yeah, that's the show, damn on brain fartest.
But also and also people say, like Matt Rife as an overnight success.
Now, if I can get that kind of body overnight, where do
I? Yeah, where do I do that? I know? First of
all, I have to get my own studio. I mean, he crushed
it, right, and now he's got sixteen million followers. So I remember
seeing you, was it two years ago at the Funniest Person in Rochester.
You were a headliner and a judge, and I was really impressed with your
set then and then we've kind of stayed in touch. I love that you're
doing this. So you got the twenty minute special for Helium. Yeah,
Now you're gonna do what a forty five? Yeah? Or another twenty Here's
the great thing too, though, is that I don't even think it works
like that anymore. I'm for the next five six way because I'm on the
road, I'm touring, I'm doing their clubs, and I have, like
I don't know how many hours of material from from my time in New Zealand
and just stuff that I've developed here, and so I'm just going to be
throwing it all at the wall. I think. In Indianapolis, I'm officially
recording album, which I think will be an hour, but I'm also going
to be just like you know, it's a great opportunity to get out there
and do a bit of crowd work, get some clips recorded, maybe throw
some stuff out there where you go, you know, oh, this might
not necessarily be on the album, but here's like a ten minute track that
we can use. What is what's your socials if people wanted to see Steve
Wriggley, I'm on Instagram as Wriggles dot Insta, which is I can't figure
out. I can't figure out how to change my account name to just Steve
Wriggley. And people keep saying it's really easy. And I hate when people
say that. You know, people be like, oh, it's really easy
to do, Steve, It's really easy, and I'm like, cool,
great, I would really appreciate it if you said to me, oh,
it is really hard to do, and a lot of people struggle, you
know, you know, came in the ass. I can't figure it out.
I have kids. I let them do it sometimes my kids aren't quite
old enough for you. But yeah, riggles dot instes my Instagram, Okay,
I mean that's that was It was a social media site that I neglected.
I only really just started looking at it a year ago because I was
on Twitter. That was where I built up my following. But we don't
know, an't things gone down the toilet. So I'm not even gonna bother
giving my Twitter out. But I'm building the Instagram, posting clips on the
air and like that's the place Okay, posting clips on on YouTube too or
no? Or is that just through Helium YouTube you can only do sixty seconds?
Yeah, and that's not well you can you can do longer videos on
you Tube, but they're shorts. But the shorts are only sixty seconds.
And that's the currency for comedy now. It's like it's got to be a
little thing. Yeah, a little thing insta is where I'm at. All
right, So and then you're gonna be at the Rickles Room Saturday night,
Saturday at the twenty third of September at the Rickles Room. I think it's
seven thirty doors open. I think it's okay. I like that room.
That's an intimate setting. Yeah, it really is. It's to me,
that's kind of like my favorite type of comedy when it's a tight room like
that. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, So that's great and
this will be is it kind of? I mean I called it a warm
up? But would you say that for the special or not? No?
Because for me now I think like, and this is the thing is is
like I'm you know, your own production studio as a comic now, so
like every show like that as an opportunity to maybe grab that one clip that
goes viral or whatever. So I take every show for me is a show,
you know, And whether I've got five people there or one hundred and
fifty people there, however many people, I'm like, I'm we're gonna rock
the room and we're gonna have the bit show we can because like you never
know, like I'm recording everything I'm doing. That's what we all do now.
Yeah, And also like you just want to I don't think I don't
think of it. It was a warm up because you know, and you
know this too, like when you finish the thing, you're not finished,
you know what I mean. Like I'll record the album in in Indianapolis and
I'll be like, oh A, didn't nail that one, and you know
you always like want to like improve on it. So I know we're going
to rock the house on Saturday. This would be This would be great.
I think that's fantastic. What else is happening in your life? Because you
live in the Southern Tier, right I do? Yeah, I've lived here
at nine nine years now, nine years yeah, yeah, and that's kind
of remote. Are you down by Alfred? I am, yeah, yeah,
out in the middle of nowhere, and like people are always like,
why did you move here? And there is like there's a bit of a
story there. My wife and I met in New Zealand and I said,
I said that she was doing a study abroad program and I'm the one who
wound up studying abroad. But we met there, and you know, I
fell in love and we got married. And then a year after we got
married, we found out we were having our first child. And at the
same time, her brother passed away. So we came here because we're like,
like, grief is I'm sure you've experienced that. It makes you crazy,
right, and you're like, you will do anything you can to try
and make the people around you okay. And so my mother and father in
law were obviously they just lost their son. Now that I have a son
myself, I understand even more like how hard that must have been. But
my wife and I, in that stupid grief thing, we were like,
let's take this baby and we'll shove it in the hole of grief and then
I'll fix everything. So we came here to have the child, and then
we found a house for sale and Alfred for twenty five grand twenty five thousand
dollars for a house, Steve, that sounds like a fucking nightmare. It
was, and I spent two years fixing this thing. That's what I mean.
I've maxed out my lows credit card more times than I count, right,
But also like it was a true joy because I've built the house my
family live in, and I used to go back to New Zealand for like
six months of the year work you know, and then come back you know,
spread out over the year. But since COVID, I haven't been home
and I haven't really felt this desire too, because I just love, do
you still have family there? All of my family? Oh? They moved
to Australia, Yeah, okay, par in Tasmania. Yeah, so is
that hard to that's a little bit. Is that further to get to?
I don't even know. They're not going to listen to this. I like,
I like my American family, Okay, then all right, I'm just
thinking they'd want to see the kids and stuff. Yeah, yeah, they
well they do. But then you know, it's a different world too because
when my mother, my mother immigrated from Holland to New Zealand. Okay,
so she was like writing letters and I'm pretty sure they were still being delivered
by boat. But now you know, like we can skype my mom and
dad and they can see the kids. Okay, you know, so yeah,
yeah, you're right, technology does do you know, has given us
that opportunity. It's still something about being in person, but I understand and
if your mom did that herself, right, leaving Holland to New Zealand is
something and didn't probably get back a lot. Yeah, something she understands,
is familiar with, that's right, and she knows, and like it's just
we will go back next year as the plan, Okay, but I mean
the pandemic obviously through a spanner. And then it's just that you've got to
organize your life around a trip the other side of the planet. Yeah,
and you got to go for at least two weeks, I would assume minimum.
Plus we've got to go to Australia as well, so it would be
like, you know, would be gone for like I mean, if we're
not gone for a month, we really can't do it. Well you book
gigs while you're there, oh yeah you will? Oh yeah yeah. In
Australia, Yeah, I've got a couple of places, got some some connections
there, and I would definitely like Melbourne. I've performed there before. Yeah,
there was the thing like before I moved here, I had a whole
life for New Zealand. I was on TV, I was doing the thing.
Yeah, And but that's the other thing is that I don't miss there
either because I love I'd honestly rather be facing a big, uncertain adventure in
America then having a maintaining that. Like in New Zealand, the glass ceiling
is solo and I had had it and my head was bumping up against it.
So if I went back there, because people like, why don't you
just go back, we had a career, and I'm like, yeah,
but it's just like that's the same thing every year, whereas here it's like
right now, I'm at the bottom of the barrel, but the barrel has
no roof. In America, there's no limit. I was just listening to
a podcast that I'm talking about how Vince McMahon took the w W from one
million to nine billion dollars exactly. There is, there's no ceiling, and
a lot of times when you're independent, I would add, there are no
rules. Yeah, there are no rules, so you get to do it
your way. And if it doesn't work, change it, fix it,
you know, but it's all on you. And uh, I find that
exciting just like you do. It is exciting like anything can happen at anytime,
like no matter how remote the chances, like the Bills could win a
Super Bowl, you know what I mean, it could he could happen,
It could happen. How dare you? How dare you tell? Real quick?
Because I know you got kind of a heart out here and you're flying
to Saint Louis to do the Healium club. Building the house. You did
all the work yourself, you know what, renovating the house I did there
in law was a carpentest, so he taught me a few things. But
then, like everything else, I just learned on YouTube. Now don't tell,
don't tell my village code and spit there. Yeah right, But I
mean like I went on YouTube and I was like, how do I wire
upright? And sure, like every now and then, you like smell an
electrical fire in the house, but it's fine and it hasn't burnt out yet.
And next year I'm planning on doing the roof. Really, yeah,
all yourself. You like doing that? I do, Although people have told
me, why don't, Like, if you're going to do a roof,
get the Amish to do it. That's what everyone's saying to me. But
like, I really want to give it a guy. Well, there is
something satisfying, right, I'm a big believer in I mean, we talk
about self esteeming kids and stuff, but it's building that satisfaction that I did
that. I can look at that. And when you look at something in
your house, if you put in a window, you can look at it
as long as it works and there's no leaks, no drafts. I did
that. It is a knife that cuts both ways because there are times when
you look at your house and you see some beautiful like I love drywall.
Yeah, I'm using it drywall, and like I got to say, the
drywalling in here is fantastic. A couple of ripples here and there, but
we go but you know, you look at it and you go, I
did that. But then on the other end, there are parts of your
house where you go, oh, I did that, right, Oh that
was me. Yeah. But at the same time you can go back and
you learn from it, and it's problem solving and there's I don't know,
I find real satisfaction in working with my hands. I always need to and
the amount of money that you save on a handyman who are impossible to get
now anyway, you know, if I have like a problem with my pipes,
or if something goes wrong with the electric I at least know, like
I know the skeleton, I know what is connected to what, and I
know like, oh, well that outlet that's on this circuit, and I
know exactly where I have to go to get everything done. So that's kind
of nice. Yeah, you know, And the fact that we only spent
twenty five grain on the house. I mean it was it was a bard
shape. I would assume we put another fifty into it. I would assume,
but I mean, you know, but still, by the way,
even then, great price. Yeah, and we don't know what any want
an money, that's the big thing. Yeah, Yeah, no one can
come on it. We own it. That's a good Yeah. I kind
of like that. Yeah, man, I mean, you know, it's
a is a it's a rough one. Man. You gotta be you gotta
be careful with it, you know what I mean, especially when you're self
employed like me and you don't have that guarantee. No, you don't you
know what does your wife do? She works at the State University. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, So helium down
in St. Louis. Is that where you're headed? Saint Louis tonight.
I'm going on a plane to hit there in about an hour. So yeah,
Saint Louis tonight, and then I'll come back. I got a cup
of coffee and then doing Roch Yester on Saturday, and then I'm going down
to Austin, Texas. I must spend a whole week down in Austin.
I'm doing Cap City Comedy Club there. Okay. I got shows in Raleigh.
I'm going to be in Arlington, Virginia. I got a sold show
in Brooklyn, New York that's almost sold out. I'm really excited about that.
Well that's great, man, It's stoked. This is really good.
I'm I'm so happy to hear that. Yeah, yeah, you're You're hilarious
and people need to get out there and see you. The Rickles Room is
a great room Saturday night comedy club. You know, see somebody who's really
got a nice a different perspective of where you've lived all your life. Yeah,
right, And for people who think that like I get a little people
going, oh, you probably just go out there and like dump on America,
and I don't like I make fun of I make fun of it,
but I make fun of New Zealand just as much. And also, like
I do, I definitely get into like comedy about like things that I love
about this place, mainly just how wild it is, you know what I
mean. One of the biggest things that I learned in the last few years
was how this this country is just indestructible. Like everything this country has been
through in the last sex years, right yea, from presidents to pandemics to
you name it. And like at the time that it was hitting, I
was like, this is that, this is the end. And all of
my American buddies were like, don't worry about it. It's gonna be fine
other than you know, And I'm like, no, you don't understand.
This is the end of the wool. They're like, don't worry, you
know, you don't want America's worst enemy is America, Like we will kill
each other before anybody else gets to us. And even and even America can't
take America down. Like I think that's the biggest thing that I've learned the
last few years. Is like this country is its own worst enemy, and
it is it is one and one against itself, you know, it is
it is undefeated. Time to defeat. That's it. Steve Wriggley. Check
him out at Wriggley What Wriggles Wriggles and it's what the w is it's the
w r iggy l e is dot dot inst We've got to change it.
Bell, okay in that's me and check him out on Instagram and then go
see him in person that day and you can find out all the information on
tickets at Carlson Comedy dot com. Yeah, and Bell, honestly all the
best with this man. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's it's
it's going really well. And uh you know it's it's an adventure, but
it's one of the and it's it's a hustle. It's a hustle. Well,
but it's nice too. Like it's nice because like when I used to
do interviews me on the ready, you'd be like, all right, see
we got two seconds, what I mean, Whereas now you can just let
the whole thing, just let it go. You know. It's funny.
There was uh you bring that up. We had a conversation that sort of
started to go sideways a few weeks ago with some people on different sides,
and it could get a little touch of political and normally on the radio beuling
anyway, and on this one, I just kind of just I just go
let me just let it breathe. Let's see what happens, you know,
Let's just see what happens, because uh, it's important. It's important that
that we have conversations no matter what. Yeah, and you don't have like
someone breathing dwanil Nick the station's reputation exactly. We can't do this. And
our research shows that the biggest kinds of conversations lead to this kind of a
drop, right. You know what, I want to take the risk.
I want to trust that my audience are gonna be have. They have the
big boy pants on and they can handle this. One of the things that
I'm I you'll hear all the time from everybody, and I think you're a
very good example of this is you have to be yourself authenticity. Yes,
and I think that in an environment like this you get to be a little
more authentic than you would be in others because there's an overlord, so to
speak. Yes, you know, And that was one of the things I
really enjoyed about your comedy, honestly, was it was it's authentic. It's
it's your thoughts, and they're funny and they're observational, and I think it's
fantastic. You're You're really, really great. I can see why you know,
you say you're at the bottom of the barrel here, and I understand
you're trying to move up, but you also got a family, you're redoing
a house. You can't you know, your time's a little spread out in
New Zealand. I can absolutely see why you were hit Well, you know
what, when I say at the bottom of the barrel, I should really
say the middle because, like I was saying before about America, like the
amazing thing is is there's no ceiling, but there's also no bottom. Like,
no matter how badly you're doing, someone is doing worse than It's true
too, and that always makes you feel a little bit better. And sometime
I gotta come back here because I gotta tell you. I got a story
that you'll love. Gotta tell you at some point, the story of how
I got fired from commercial radio in two thousands Oh, I can't wait.
It's a long story, but I can't wait. It's a radio guy.
You'll love it, but I will, you know what. Okay, So
I'm going to start a podcast and I haven't done it yet, and I
keep I've talked about this several times, one called Radio Days, and the
idea is to talk to people like you about their time and radio. Because
I've always said it's see students. That doesn't mean they're dumb, that just
means like they're distracted. There there's some of the weirdest fucking people ever,
and weird shit goes on, and there's paranoia and backstabbing and you know,
all this stuff. And I want to do a podcast with other people who
are in radio, just called Radio Days. I want to play old tapes
of me on the radio, and then I want to take that turn it
into a screenplay and try to recreate WKRP in Cincinnati. Oh honestly, yeah,
way do I buy stop let me come out of the ground. But
I would like to honestly, if you're in maybe i'd have you first.
I spent my first guest should I got because I spent six months working in
commercial radio in New Zealand and they hired me out as a stand up and
I didn't. I didn't last. I didn't last. I'll tell you the
full story. We'll save it for the podcast. But I essentially got fired
because I refuse to promote the Transformers movies. But there's a lot. There's
more to it, obviously, but you know, dude, I'll tell you
what we would go. I'll give you this before I go, because you'll
love this. We so we had our our manager, you know, the
station manager, and we were the drive shift, right and morning or afternoon
afternoon day right, and our shift started it we were three to seven,
right, and he wouldn't let us pre record the last hour to be lone
no matter what, and he would call us in. We would have our
ear Chick meeting, right. We would get there at twelve and we would
go on for air Chicks, for which people who don't know, that's basically
they replay yesterday's show and they listen and they go through and he would tell
us what we should have done. Now ear Chick would go from twelve till
two thirty. What. Yeah, he would micro pick this whole thing apart,
right, and then we had half an hour before our show. Oh
my god, but here's the kicks. The worst manager ever, right,
So we get there at twelve, we do ear chicks from the day before
from twelve to two things every day, every day, every day and a
shit and every day. Do you know what he would say before we lift?
And the one thing, guys that I think is it just feels like
you're not doing enough prep. Just two and a half hours freaking here,
dude talking to you. We'll prep, guys, that's what we need.
Huh. You know I got some stories for you, all right, Great,
we'll find a time. I'll reach out and we'll get this stuff.
I love it, Steve Wrigley. Check them out at comedy at the Karlson
in the Rickles Room Saturday night. It was a pleasure to see you.
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we're champing this on December September twenty one. December September twenty first the
song, they're all dancing. Yeah, it's like psychedelic almost. Uh.
The josenh One, Joe Ricado is on the line. He's got a very
special gig. Will you be playing this at the gig acoustically? No,
we don't do a difficult I think I think you could do this, Joey,
I got a better clock for twenty ready. Yeah, it was the
first of September day. I'll always remember, just because that wasn't brother we
something like that? He did news Jelley give me in trouble? Did he
die the tent? No he died, No, Joe, geez, I
don't want him to die. I thought I thought he choked on a ham
shandwich down in Floriders. That was Mama cas Oh, that was Mama.
Care for each other. So, Joe, what have you been up too
lately? Well, you know, I wander sometimes through the woods and I
just think of the blessings that have come to the josen One, and I'm
very grateful, Like I'll plant a tree you know wherever I go. Yeah,
I didn't working on a lot of music, man, Yeah, I've
been working on a real lot of music. I told you about the Barry
Manilo stuff. I got to meet him about two weeks ago, which was
fun. Wait a second, now, hang on, can you talk about
the Barry Manielo stuff? Yeah, I could finally talk about it. What
happened was there's this guy named David Rosenblatt who's been his touring percussion player for
like fourteen years. You know, Barry was a little before our time.
He was definitely before my time and your time. I mean I knew of
him, but I who didn't know the song Mandy and who didn't know the
Coca Cola jingles? And yeah? Yeah, I mean you know that I
write the songs. I write the songs that make all the copa cabana.
Yeah. I mean, come on, we know Barry Manilow. Yeah,
I know everybody knows him. But I'm just saying I wasn't a big you
know, I wished, you know, I care if I wasn't really into
it, but he didn't care. If he died last September twenty first or
not. I think he's both of those guys don't choke on him because they're
Jews. They don't need Hams. Show. What are we doing here?
Goodness, good lord, I've been the Carlton here. What the hell?
I got a lot of Jewish friends. They don't fucking like ham. What
do you want for me? Alright? Alright? I got some who do
five managers? I have a manager. He's he's been with me for years.
He's kind of a manager only for the Thank You Soldier shows, but
he's got me a lot of work. His name is at Musicus. He
found in v O R. And he's a very he's Jewish and he goes.
I don't need Ham. I don't want none of that ship. So
so Barry Manilow I wanted to go see him. I brought my sister.
I hadn't been negotiating for like five or six months, because you know,
Barry Manilow is gonna be almost eighty years old, I mean, but he
still got his hands a song writer. As a songwriter, I don't want
him just covering one of my regulars because it's not gonna go anywhere. But
he he's really big with the Christmas specials he gets, so he liked two
of my holiday songs, and I said, that's great. So I had
one called Christmas in New York. He played it on your show. He
played a couple of I actually yeah, and he loved it. And then
all of a sudden he comes back with with through David the percussion player,
because I want to record a couple of Joey's songs. Let's start with one.
I wanted to Christmas in New York, but I wanted to rewrite all
the lyrics. I don't I don't want to write a sing a song about
celebratory New York. He said, I want a sad love song. You
know. It's like, I don't want to write a hand freaking Christmas song.
I want to write at one who wants to sit around when when they're
eating and drinking on Christmas Eve, listen to some sad shit. I don't
want to write that. But then he said, well, you could make
this, this, and this if we put it on there. And I
said, okay, I'm gonna write a sad loves so did you yeah?
It took you know. Did you ever hear my song the Ballot of arm
and Chapra, Yes? I think I did. I think you play.
He loves it. But anyways, no, I didn't want to write that,
but you know, once I check it out, it was going to
be very beneficial. It took about four months because if he would have been
younger, like even in his forties or fifties, he would have had the
energy to work it out with me and co write it. But he was
like, let'sten Joe through this other guy. I only talked to him twice,
but he goes listen just you know, and I and I send,
I send lyrics in I like this one, I don't like this one.
And it took me three or four months. And I'm really good with lyrics.
I really don't have a problem. But he put me through the hoops
and he finally got something that they really liked. So I'm happy about it.
So I went to go see him. It's the Turning Stone about a
month ago, and I'm thinking, Ah, this is gonna be okay.
I'm just doing it for my own interests in blah blah blah. I hope
I have a good time and we'll gamble a little bit, have some fun.
I brought my sister with me and the guy knocked me out. I
stood up seven times during a show, screaming very, very very you know
now he really he really was good. I got it for his style of
you know, I'm looking at it for him, you know kind of a
thing. So I go backstage and I go Barry. This was the first
time I met him. Morley met him, talk to him for about ten
minutes. We talked about my song and we like that he's going to finish
it in the next month. And they said, well, let's say I'm
happy, you know, a songwriter recording my song is great. I think
that's wonderful. And he says, you know what you are now right?
He goes first the first time you come to a show, you're called a
fan alow thank you soldier on his Veteran's Day album. I don't think he
does that. Probably not. No, that doesn't talk to him about that.
But that was cool. That was cool. That's one of the things
that I'm working on. I'm working with this guy in Germany named Shimon Acelander
is a twenty five year old but prodigy is excellent. O there he is.
Yeah, I've been that's right, you have very song. Da is
this supposed to be like the songs. See now does he is that supposed
to be? God, I've been the very first song I write songs.
I wonder if that right? Well, I think that's kind of that's a
very cool and a compliment to you, don't you think? Yeah? I
flattered by it. I mean, I just keep moving forward. It's not
something I'm gonna hang my hat on. I didn't even try to do it.
It just came, you know him, Yeah, percussions. No,
you know, we laughed at Berry. You know, buries me one hundred
billion dollars in the entertainment world. I don't laugh at Berry. I actually
went to see Barry many many years ago, probably a good twenty five at
SMAC, which I think then was flea pack would be any good. He
was great, and he came out and he did a whole medley of his
of his jingles that he did for commercials. He did all of them.
He sang those, he was entertaining. It was a shorter show. But
I went with a chick I was dating at the time. She was kind
of a favorite, with a very short woman. She was only five one.
Wasn't she tell you a little devil? No? You like a girl
who's short. You like short women. Now, so when you're sitting standing
next to me, you put your beer. You're very very dominant. Yeah,
I like I like a flat head, no teeth. That's what I
was like, right, I said, I'm gonna put it right right right,
my beer right there. He played at Blue Cross Arena probably ten years
ago. They were at one point there wasn't selling so there was like ten
dollars tickets. I'm like, yeah, just for the people watching alone.
We all know the songs and if you could get past your own insecurities,
you might actually enjoy. Yeah, Frankie Valley, I loved it. Yeah,
two years old, but I love love. I wouldn't like to see
you know what, I'd like to go see somebody. I want to go
see Willie Nelson, just only because he's ninety and I go, this is
amazing. He could die on stage and I could say I was there any
time. That's the stone next one. What's that he could Yeah he could.
He's not Jewish show. He could die on a ham sandwich. All
right, all right with your ham sandwich. What are you doing Saturday?
My friend? I got a really nice show. I never do. I'm
doing a rare free show for our friends and Rochester in honor of my favorite
chefs. In one of your favorite chefs, Floy I loved him and he's
he's my family member. But the Spellinas, who I become friends with,
who own the place, are really putting on a nice affair form free and
I want to come in there and be the entertainment and entertain people for a
couple hours and just things. So I didn't write all your listeners to come
down Sunday, I mean Saturday, Sarry, Saturday early. I'm gonna start
at twelve and just play at two o'clock and we'll have a wonderful plan,
you know. So what I want to do about this because I got a
feeling you're gonna become friends more closer friends with the Spelinas. Is that?
And I really mean this. I'm not trying to be a commercial. I
was surprised on it myself when Jimmy started working there. They're going there a
little bit more. And I sat down at the menu right not ever looking
at the menu, taking it's the prices are very comparable, sixteen dollars,
fifteen dollars corny. I was like, I didn't they had I'm going to
help them get their image right because the food is great. But everybody thinks,
you know, if you don't go to oh, I don't want to
go to there. It wasn't going to charge me one hundred hours for an
egg, you know that kind of ship. They don't have a boat.
It's not that way. You're right, and it's great. And I was
just with Dave Spolena yesterday. I shouldn't say this, but we were racing
cars. That's great. Yeah, but but but Spolena had he he has
a couple of really nice corvettes. But he didn't bring him down. But
he uh, but they are. Dave spolen is a guy who's up every
day at four o'clock in the morning. He has oh yeah, yah,
he's got a gravel and sand business and does asphalt. And then they have
Pantavino on the Avenue, Pantavino downtown and Frog Pot. No, he's not.
That's make a very bad slip between Oh, I apologize, I apologize
the avenue. They're gonna they're gonna put that place out. Okay. I
don't want to start anything. I didn't want to start, but I'm going
in for you're getting you're gonna get this place fire bomb and I've got and
I've got uh and they have frog Pond now they bought frog Pond. This
blins. Yeah. Yeah, so that that's open. And will there be
mimos is at your show? They'll be everything. I wish you would be
at my show. You know, I'd like you to slip into something a
little sexy and show up and just kind of stand there and I'll get I'll
sing you a Barry Mantel? Will you sing? Will you sing a Barry
Manelo song? Acoustic? If I did, I'll play it with one I
know I could. Maybe I could do it for fun. I never thought
of. Yeah, I like, I can't smile. I can't, I
can't laugh. I can't. I'm telling you. Once I was there and
I was surrounded by all the other panelos. You know, all of a
sudden, you're part of a cult, the very cult. Yeah. They
had hist They had his het on a screen the whole time, that the
coach guy. Yet, we're gonna we're gonna send Danny down on Sunday.
He'll sing for you, play for him. He'll sing Joey I learned man
Danny's Saturday it's Saturday. Okay, well even better day. You know what's
so funny, though, Bill, is that every song you guys, you
said, I'll give him one thing. I even told him this, I
said, I had a great conversation with that room. He thought I was
quite amusing, and I had I had by that time, had several patrons
in my Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you were loose, looser than normal.
So I said, Barry, he's like, what you think of the
show, And this after we talked about the song, I said, do
you really want me to tell you the honest that that's true? And there's
other people around us, so he's holding court, you know, And now
now everybody's gone quiet. They want me to tell them what I thought it
was the old man, And they go, all right, Barry, do
you mind if I said, oh, please tell me the truth. I
said, you know, I came into the show not not thinking I was
gonna you know, I thought it was gonna be good, you know,
And I said, you know, there's a little bit of show fast,
the schmall stew it that you're really great at. You're like, you're like
an old ball bill actor, and but you're sincere and he gets. I
really feel like at the end of every song he'd had that great inning like
Dada. I think everything and everything ends on that big modulating nada and he
spreads his arms open like but you know what he did, Bill, and
this is a throwback to show business. It was so good and he really
loved my critique. He hugged me and everything. It was really funny.
But at the end, and then I walked into his car and shook his
hand, and you know that that was just so it was just did you
address Barrier or mister man alone? I trying to grab my wiener and I
gotta stop him. Did you say did you say I can't smile without you,
Barry? I didn't say that. This takes so long. Player sucks.
Let's get somebody new in there. Oh, you know what, there
was no This was another funny thing. If there was a guitar player in
that Dan, I never heard him. It was wasn't It wasn't a guitar
yet think at all. Well, I think that I think it's exciting that
you're gonna be uh having a song that you wrote sung by Barry Manilow.
I think that's fantastic. Yeah, But thank you. I'm very happy about
that. Bonnie Rachel might be doing let it be me. That's another hot
thing we're working on. Yeah, that's the hope that happens. Bonnie racing
and let it be me. I hope that happens. Yeah, because about
six years ago, her manager reached out for her name the names body No.
Her manager is Kathy Kane as her managers okay, and she calls,
he has set me. She goes because Bonnie Rate goes back with two drummers
that I work with. One of them is Gary Maliver who played on my
first album, who's from Buffalo. And then he knows Steve. She knows
Steve Gadd very well. They've you know, they've done be Party back in
the seventies and eighties together. You know, they were part of that crew,
you know. Yeah, And I got in touch with her manager and
I sent him a handful of tunes that I thought would be good for her,
you know, And they got back to me about six years ago.
I was all excited, like, Hi, Joe, is this Kathy Kane?
Give me give me a call. So I called her up. We
had a nice conversation. She goes, I think Bonnie wants to do this
too, and I'm like, why, you know, fucking that's that's a
I mean, I always wanted her to do something. I mean, I'm
not you know, I wouldn't mind her doing anything, right, would you
love? Will you sing? Let it be me and Ponti Veno on Saturday?
Who I could hear Bonnie Ray singing this? And I've never like a
fly in mar solo. Yeah. Yeah, you don't have her to her
style, you wouldn't be even better. This is what I brought this up.
I don't know a wull ever happened, but Dad could is going to
put in a good word for me because he tours with James Taylor. That's
his drummer, you know, for many years. The last tour of this
last two summers in a row, it's been Bonnie Rate and James Taylor and
the best the friends. They're all old junkie friends. They all were sucking
in the drugs every one but anybody else you want to SHOs take him sn
we have anybody else, Joey, You're so sweet. Isn't heroin fin right?
So? I mean, I'm being honest. They're not all everybody want
through their period. You know. Yes, I just thought, brother,
we joke out of hands. Alright, alright, alright, please Jesus God,
you got at any I know, but I don't want to have to
spend the time I got ship to do. And I don't feel like I'm
not adding it. I'm not adding it because I didn't say it. But
I'll just say this. I want none of the blowback, and I will
get it. These are all people who don't These people no longer talk to
me, so I don't even care. That's fine. What do you what
do you mean this little joke? I know? But do you think that
the people they won't see it as a joke. That's all all right,
and you know all of them, alight. I only needed as a joke.
I love all everybody. I don't want to anybody they get hurt.
I must have read the wrong paper. I think it was the Hebrew News.
Oh my god, Joey at noon Pani Vino on the Avenue. I'm
excited for the show, and I am a big fan of Jimmy Paulvino,
and they do a Paulino excuse me you make because you don't show up.
I'm gonna tell days Folino all your your bad secrets. I'm going to cut
your well. Dave and I had a lovely chat yesterday, so I think
I'm good. I'm all right. And for all your listeners, including brother
Weez, I wish nobody harm I was just a little harmless, little joke
that got out of control. I don't want to hurt anybody's feeling. All
right, Well, I love everybody, all right. You know, if
we can't get around with people in show business? That was asshole? Are
you kidding me? Here we go? Don't get me stagging? All right,
I don't want to get you started. Joey, Yes, all the
favorite just added the whole show for again. I even came on. No,
I will not do that, absolutely not. I love you. I
love you. I'm a fan of your show. And you did a great,
great interview with Armond Schopper yesterday. Thank you. That was a lot
of that was nice. And you had helped make that introduction a while ago
and spoke out of ham Sandwich last year. No, he tripped into a
pile somewhere in that guitars and they couldn't find him for a week. I
don't worry about it. Nobody, nobody would look for him. He just
survivor shopper. I'll tell you what that was. It was an interesting just
it was just interesting to hear about his history. I thought that was great,
and I appreciate you making that introduction a couple of months ago. And
oh man, I hope it works out with it. Do you know that
he named his kids Armand and his daughter Armando Armand Armanda and eric A ri
alright, because somebody told me he knew and all his kids like George farm
and George. But he didn't, right, I don't believe. So I
don't know. There's there's Armond and Arik, and I don't know if the
daughters are. I know that. I mean, all right, you're three
beautiful, wise intelligence men. Enjoy the rest of your evening. The jos
and one's there. He always loved you, and he wishes you and your
audience nothing but peace, health and happiness. All right, go chokeing a
ham sandwich. I will all right love you there you go. I need
a drink and a smoke right now. Holy hell had a nap who came
him the nickname the josh One? Did he gave himself that? Okay?
So I thought, I think he called a joe business at one point it
wasn't show business. Was there a story about like him playing like at you're
at a party at your house, pretty shut up? Shutup's was gonna play?
Uh, And Tommy got like, because you're somebody else's house, you're
telling people to shut up to I think he and another woman we're gonna play
a Bruce Springsteen song and she was gonna play it all and it was back.
Yeah, I was back by the pool and we just started. It
was kidding, all worked up about it. You don't you know what's gonna
happen tonight. Barry Mandelo is not going to finish the song because I did
choking on a half sand much. She always put it out in the universe.
I don't not that I care. It's Barry mandelogay, I believe so
okay, it's even like officially made a statement. I don't know. Do
you need to know? I don't think so. No, those jokes have
gone on to its like the seventies, yeah, yes, I mean yeah,
fifty. I think what were the jokes because I just remember that he
was gay? Yeah, well, but like these jokes outdate me, Like
I'm not even old. Do you know any of them? No? Okay,
because I remember as a kid it was always like, oh my god,
yeah, you like to listen to Barry Man I blow or something like
it was awful. We were so horrible back, like we were awful to
each other growing up. Awful And I don't know you you're still awful of
Dan now? No, I think we were better off. Wow, drew
a thicker skin. You didn't weren't offended by everything? You learned how to
take a joke back. I owe you an apology correction. I do now
when I said the other day, I think that when we were talking about
the Golden Bachelor, and I said, boomers are the largest generation, and
you said they still and then I went, you know what, that's a
good point. I looked it up. No, millennials, millennials, Millennials
are largest unfortunately. Yeah. I think jen X was when they just abortion
came around. Yeah, and I think that they did the population a bit.
But fifty five million abortions in this country. But the so there's a
sign outside with McDonald's stop it, stop joking make jokes about it. So
I was I'm speaking fast, But what was the yes? So what were
you saying no, I was saying that which part the thick skin? Yeah,
we have, we have you learn how to defend yourself. Like a
little bit of bullying could go a long way. If Elon Musk weren't bully,
we wouldn't have SpaceX and Tesla and all this. He was bully growing
up. It's what you make out of that, Okay, But I don't
I'm not saying every person needs to be a right after the after their break.
It's just nothing but fifteen minutes of me and Bill bullying Dan. I
don't know if we're going to wrap this up. But I don't know.
I'm done. I've done no. But I think you're right. I had
an interesting conversation with somebody last night and it was over U are we a
are we a patriarchal or a matriarchal society? Starting to go the other way,
I said, we're a matriarchal society and the person said, how can
you say that? And I said, because I think most decisions are made
a lot of decisions to they are not are made by feelings. And I
said, and if you ask people certain things, they won't respond to some
stuff because their feelings are hurt or their feelings or this. I think a
lot of our feelings about other people are are dictating laws over intellect and they
may not be the best decision because we're leading with feelings. And I go,
if you look at it, you know, if you have people say
I want the government run like a business, well that's business is cold.
Business is a cold, cold entity. It's not nice. And I said,
and I also will say very careful. I'm not gonna be careful.
I'll just say I said. I will also say that we are living in
a world at least where we are, where if a man makes one accusation
about a woman, it doesn't end her world. But if a woman makes
one accusation, false or unfounded about a man, it can absolutely end everything
for him. And that is that is an absolute fact. It is documented
cases of it, and it is true. So by those things, in
my conclusion, it's more of a matriarchal society. Now, people will go
fucking crazy. People will go fucking crazy on me for saying that. And
I'm not saying that some decisions shouldn't be consideration for feelings and how that is,
but feelings in intellect, if you want your government run by a business.
It ain't about feeling, sweetheart. That's not the way this fucking world
walks. And so and a lot of times, hard decisions that need to
be made that are the betterment of the greater good are not decisions that are
going to feel great. They're not because people's feel because things will happen.
But in the long run, that's what you have to do when you have
to be a macro instead of a micro thinker. And I think that that's
different. And I think that if you look at it, all I'm just
saying is that there's a lot of feeling stuff. And on the other side
of it, I would say if my statement, if you agree with the
statement, and it is my opinion that I think we can all someone agree
that if if a man made one accusation against a woman, her world isn't
ending. But if a woman makes one accusation, found it or not against
a man, his world can end. It has happened, it can end.
So therefore, who has the power? Who's got the fucking power?
Thank you. So that's that's where I come with my decision. I agree
with you. Yeah, So it's the it's a shift and when I said
it. When I said it, there's just silence. Enjoy the silence.
And I went, I know I'm saying something that is not it's not a
popular thing. All I'm asking you to do is just think if you can
come with a I'm open to listening. I am open to listening to anybody
about anything, but I do think and that is when I think that's the
lotsic. I see, that's the conclusive phrase, happy wife, happy life.
Why does that exist? Well, yeah, but yeah, I know,
but I'm just saying that, and I'm not saying that. It was
always like, oh, I'm not saying that, because people then go right
to the conclusion of, well, therefore you're a misogynist. Yet that's not
what I'm saying. That's not what i'm saying. And these pomp painting with
broad brushes and this non thinking and non listening that that that is said,
and that's why we are sort of where we are, because all of a
sudden people just will not have the conversation. You are this way I am.
I listen to what I'm saying and show me where I'm wrong. I'm
open to listening, but I think that what I've said into this microphone is
pretty accurate, I think so. I mean, well, I don't know
about one hundred percent. All right, I'm sorry. I'll leave room for
some bullshit somewhere. That's it, all right, let's get out of here.
That's get out of here for Dan Barillo will be doing the Fisher homecoming
games. Yeah, like right after I do uh, Betavia Downs this weekend.
That's right, I forgot about that vanity project. Betavia Down, Betavia
Downs, nine o'clock on Friday fridaynight. The club thirty thirty four Rush Derman
Thomas is a club. Yes, it must be a great stage and everything.
Yes it is. So we go from basically where you guys were sort
of cramped in and sounded fantastic the band really really, I'm not even bullshitting.
I thought it sounded great until Kevin got up from saying uh no,
but even Kevin, that's my fault. That was fault. That was my
fault, busting shops. He looked like you were having a lot of fun.
That's all he is. He in the band too, that's all the
matters you right, That's great, that'll be fun. Yeah, so we're
looking forward to that. We'll have a good time out in Batavia on Friday
night and Saturday, Fisher the Alumni Game, the Alumni Game, and Kevin's
gonna be up in Buffalo for hockey, hockey, hockey guests coming to the
town this weekend. Is your son? Where is it that think? Sam
Dog? We'll have a great weekend. Go Buffalo, Bills, We'll see
a Monday. I'm Bill Moran, Go Washing. Don't hate me for what
I said. Be cold, Tale didn't know what to do. I'm trying
to TV me Gonna do the letter to you, starting down a dago state