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What's good. This is Stellan Oria
and you're checking out the Cruise Show podcast.

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Make sure to subscribe, rate and
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it real ninety two three LA's new
home Fay Hip Hop Cruise Show. We're

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in here and this is Stevan Oriol
our guy and Steven. What's up,

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bro? How you doing brother?
Hey dog, we're doing well. Thank

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you for being here. We appreciate
it. Of course, you're responsible for

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so much, for capturing the culture
for so many years. We're just talking

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about this off the air, over
thirty years and over thirty years plus of

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you capturing the culture here in Los
Angeles and really showing the world what we

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look like, what we sound like, what it feels like, you feel

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me. You're responsible for the original
La, the LA signs or LA fingers

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I guess right, yeah, and
so much more from Hollywood to the hood.

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Dog, you've taken every picture.
Yeah, what a career. Congratulations

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man, thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's been a fun one,

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you know, been a great journey. I've been around the world a

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couple of times, you know,
at the House of Pain in Cyprus Hill,

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and then from that I set myself
up as a photographer to be able

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to keep traveling, because what was
the trip for me is when I got

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off tour in two thousand and five, Like the guys were like, hey,

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we're going to take a break.
You know, we've been going hard

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since ninety two. Let's kick back
and take a break and you know,

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and like reset. And I was
like, well, that's cool because you

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know they get money from you know, every time the song played. But

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yeah, if we're not on tour, then I don't get nothing. So

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I was like, what can I
do while this break is going on?

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And I was like, well,
I know how to do construction. I

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don't really want to do that no
more. I know how to work the

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door clubs, I don't know we
want to do that no more. And

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then I knew how to do photography
and filming, so I just jumped into

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that, you know, head first. And because of traveling all those places,

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I made some connections here and there
and yeahs, yeah, you have

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half a brain, you know,
you try to do stuff like that.

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So I was able to go back
just as a photographer to these places and

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you don't have art shows, and
you know, it's been a it's been

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a fun one Man, Let Me
Plug Man hip Hop till Infinity. It's

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an immersive tribute to fifty years of
hip hop, featuring all five pillars of

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hip hop. Graffiti, Breaking Him, Seeing, DJing Knowledge sixty four hundred

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Sunset Boulevard, Los Angeles. What
a great location on Sunset as well?

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Right, Yeah, the old Amba, yes, and legend to that building,

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you know, Like, I don't
know, man, I've been in

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that old Amba so many times.
I haven't been in the new one yet.

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Where is it at Hollywood? It's
a few blocks down, it's by

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Yeah, it's one block east of
Vine on Hollywood. Man, did they

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gentrify? Is there a Starbucks inside
of me? Yeah? Keep it pure,

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you know, yeah yeah, keep
the Nipsy Stars right outside. Oh

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yeah, Big Boys is out,
yeah yeah, and then the Cypresses across

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the street. You know, you've
been and obviously you've shot like every part

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of La Like, does it kind
of make you feel sad when you go

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back to certain places that you've shot
and you were just kind of like it

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just looks so different to say,
Yeah, yeah, it kind of bums

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me out. But you know,
I try not to get stuck in the

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past, even though I'm halfway,
you know, I got one foot in

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the past and one foot, you
know, in the future. But I

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really love the old stuff, you
know, Like if I'm ever at the

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pad by myself, I just start
going through photos and tripping out on all

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the old stuff and the way stuff
used to look and how it used to

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be. And it's fun for me, you know, to go through those

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old archives, but brings back memories. I'm sure. I do like to

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shoot a lot of places that I
think could be taken away from us,

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you know, like different little food
spots or I don't know if you ever

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went to that tail of pup.
I think it was called the hot Dog

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place on Semycynthe and Beverly. It
was like shape like a hot dog back

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in the like seventies. Old building
was. Yeah, it was just like

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a little I think I've seen that
they moved to uh they somehow they found

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the original one. They moved it
back to I think La Sienega and Santa

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Monica. But you know, there's
just all these like old school places that

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I always went to, Like there
was an Oakie Dog on Santa Monica and

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Vista. Now it's a fat burger. I think yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah. At least it's
a fat burger, right, yeah,

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yeah yeah. So that's a place
we used to go to after the

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clubs, Like the punk scene was
real big back then and then in the

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eighties and that's where everybody used to
go and eat and fight, and you

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know it's good old times. With
all of your footage and your archives as

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deep as it is, right,
do you have stuff that you can never

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put out because it may be used
as evidence something? Yeah, for sure.

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I feel like that's all I'm gonna
say on it, right, Like

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there's no way you can put it
out because people and some yeah, weird

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people that are like, you know, nervous probably every day, you know,

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like I hope that don't get out. I hope that don't get out.

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But I'm one of those guys,
you know, I take it to

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the grave, you know something.
So you're okay with signing an ndia is

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what you're saying, Yeah, das, you know, Like that's right.

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I do that all the time.
But you know, it's uh to me,

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it's like respecting, you know,
if just because they were cool enough

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to do whatever they were doing while
I had the camera and I was able

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to shoot that shot doesn't mean I
have the right to put it out there

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and put them on blast, you
know, for sure, for sure,

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and just off they don't even ask, they don't even say that he help

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me? Can you not put that
out or this or that? And I'm

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like, that's just not coming out. You know. The only reason I

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have it is because there's something else
on that role of film that I can

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use. Yeah, but even if
I'm somebody's like, hey, can you

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do you have a picture of this
one thing and that's on a picture with

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something that's not you know, not
so good for somebody, I'll do that

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one myself. You know. I
don't even give that to my assistant and

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be like, hey help me for
sure, like you didn't see this or

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something right right right right of that. Yeah, you know, I put

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everything that's you know, like that, I have it in a safe place.

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That's right, that's right. Have
have the homies ever asked you to

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like to like shoot their daughters or
anything like that? Yeah, for sure,

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I don't know if I shot.
I didn't shoot the whole thing,

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but I took my camera and I
took a picture of them with their daughter,

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you know, like that legendary something
like that. You know, I'm

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not I'd done weddings before, but
thank god that they weren't traditional weddings.

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They're like more like gangster weddings.
And it was more like let's go with

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the flow, like I don't want
to be Hey, can you get a

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shot of my deal and my my
cousin from Texas? And can you get

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a shot at you know, like
I don't want to go through all that

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bridezilla's and the mother in laws,
Like I don't want to deal with none

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of that. So I don't do
no family photo even I do portraits,

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and I document different types of culture. Yes, speaking of culture, graffiti,

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that's one of the pillars of hip
hop. Yes, have you got

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the chance to visit or take pictures
of that sky rising downtown that's now become

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a mural of graffiti. I took
pictures of that building on Tuesday? Is

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that right? Ah? Yeah,
after I had somewhere to go at twelve

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twelve o'clock, after that, I
was going, I went down there.

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That's what that was a plan.
Yeah, I gotta I gotta do that.

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You know, they did see all
that art provoke anything like a sense

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of representation but yet rebellion at the
same time. Yeah, it's all that,

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but at the same time I love
it. You know, I had

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some guys go on my on my
page, you know, I was I

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reposted that I said something about that
building like that it was art, and

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some guy was like, you should
grow up, man, and you should

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try to be in the Senate,
you know, get to educate yourself and

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be in the Senate. And I
respond to that nothing. But you know,

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my what I you know, like, why don't you do that?

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Sure, you go to study and
you get your seat in the Senate.

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Let me be the guy who hasn't
grown up yet and likes that stuff right

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right right all us. Yeah,
I don't care anything what you do,

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Like you're tripping on me, like
if it's my turn to give a fuck

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turned obviously because it's your idea.
Yeah yeah, yeah. For me,

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I just want to enjoy shit,
and and that to me, like I

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enjoy looking at it. I like
looking at that, and I thinking about

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the people that went up there and
did it, like, you know,

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it's ballsy. Some of those videos
like the winds blowing and like the doors

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are blowing and slamming open and shut
and these guys are out there holding on

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the show with one hand and one
hand with a graffiti can the rain and

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everything. I'm like, ah,
man, yeah, it's crazy like culture

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like right, they did it in
Miami and everybody was clapping and cheering and

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patting everybody on the back. But
they do it here in LA and it's

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like the you know, big old
crime and yeah, why do you think

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that is what's the difference. They're
not as open minded and like free thinking

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over here they Is it because of
the history that LA has, like we

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know better or we should know better, I mean no better? What Like

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people just want to go out and
do their thing. It's not like it's

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something new. I've seen photos from
the sixties and seventies where walls were just

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blasted up with graffiti. So it's
like there's nothing new, you know,

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and these guys are I thought,
there's some pretty cool stuff. And the

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new stuff they've been doing lately the
past couple the past couple of days where

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they've been doing like multiple floors like
one crew. That's crazy, Like that's

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so sick, Like look at the
like how they line up the letters and

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everything, like you're on one floor
and you go, oh shit, I

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got excited. You go from one
floor to the next and the lines are

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perfectly lined up. How do they
do that? Like they planned it?

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Sick crazy, Yeah, and I
love it. I think it's cool.

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Like if it's such a problem,
then do something with it, you know,

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go clean, go do finish the
building. All of a sudden,

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nobody everybody has a problem with it
because it has some graffiti. You know

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who's behind it. One of the
guys behind it is councilmen. We saw.

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Yeah, that's currently locked up right
now. He's doing like thirteen years.

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Yeah, the only councilman that fucked
with the crucio. By the way,

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he's locked up now. Yeah,
what are you gonna do? Yeah,

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earlier you were talking, you know
about the places that you would visit,

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the streets and everything. What do
you feel like you know more about

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La freeways or streets, I'd say
all of it because and the crazy thing

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too, is like some people that
I know throughout the years are just confined

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to their own area, their own
neighborhood, and that trips me out,

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you know, because I've been to
so many parts of the city and I

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love it, you know, like
I have. My truck is probably four

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or five years old, and I
have one hundred and fifty thousand miles of

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it just in LA Like I don't
go to cross the country or nothing like

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driving around the city. Just driving
around the city like everywhere, and uh,

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you know, I know that they're
the you know, people out there

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probably pissed off because I'm using gas
v a truck, but you need I

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just don't want to like that one
movie where they started running into each other.

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Yeah, something about the end of
the world, or yeah, I

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want my car to just driving other
testa doesn't smashed me up in there.

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That's right, that's right. What's
your favorite part of hip hop'sil Infinity my

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Room? Yeah? Yeah, no
that you know, these type of shows,

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they're they're stressful if you're the one
who's who's putting your stuff in there,

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you know, Like to me,
I could have filled up the whole

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building with all my stuff that's in
my garage. I just you know,

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some people see it, they think
I'm a hoarder. But some people see

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it and they think I'm a collect
collector. But I could easily filled up

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the whole place with different stuff.
And they have some really good pictures of

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the you know, hip hop photography
from the Morrison Gallery. Then it goes

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into the Snoop Dogg room and it's
like an interaction place. That's the cover

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art from the Doggy Style album cover. And then you go into the other

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room and that's like the They have
a Los Angeles signed with graffiti on it,

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the Freeway sign. You know,
it's part of the culture. She

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looks badass. And then you go
into the other room where the death row

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chair is and all the music production. You can take a picture on the

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death row chair, yep, And
they have all the music production equipment in

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those other cases the Marathon exhibit as
well, for yep. That's all in

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that room. And then you go
into my room and that has They asked

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me like what hip hop meant to
me? And you know, for me,

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I put as the hip hop part, some memorabilia that I've had from

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Cypress Hill and House of Pain,
and then to me, you know,

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low writing is really important here in
our hip hop and the gangster element.

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So I put one wall has all
my low writing members, not all,

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but parts of my low writing memorabilia, and the other walls like a gangster

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wall and on that wall. I
put some panios and envelopes that were sent

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to me for my homies that were
busted. And then there's a bunch of

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Teen Angel magazines that I feel like
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can really explained that magazine to people
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that. It's like you had to
be there moment. Yeah, and people

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they say like, well, what's
in it? And I'm like, it's

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not even worth Yeah, you won't
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I remember, you know, buying
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the little magazine stands, and you
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to that, going to the newspaper
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all that, and that was like
a cool thing back in the day,

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kind of like Tower Records, you
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go to a date night at Tower
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with the tapes and vinyls and magazines, magazine books and everything. But yeah,

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so I brought all those different elements
to the show, and then they

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had my photos on projection, you
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was that was a really cool thing
for me to you know, be a

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part of. And and then then
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a three sixty projection room, which
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there and that that thing's amazing.
I think we're gonna me and the guys

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from Food's Gone Wild, We're gonna
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documentary that we did like three different
characters from his page. Yeah, we're

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gonna try and do a screening there
in the next couple of weeks. Oh,

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that's crazy. That's great. Yeah, we gotta get you guys down

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there. Yeah, man, we're
down man. Yeah. And you mentioned

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Food's Gone Wild. You know,
they started as a social media page but

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became so important to the culture.
Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy,

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right man. And the yeah,
and the guys that run it, they're

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like they're real community driven. You
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And uh, you know, there's
a lot of like haters on there.

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They call him the net bangers,
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than all those guys put together for
the community, you know. So I

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feel like as much as a feed
to social media, like the content,

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they're not for social media. They'refore
they got a purpose, you know,

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and they understand that creating a buzz
visibility on the Internet could be used for

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a great good. Yeah, you
know, for the culture, not the

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cloud. Yeah, they do all
that, and that's the coolest thing.

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what do you think they're you know,

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with the with the culture and stuff, like, man, that's that's there,

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you know. Yeah, and he's
not doing it getting that stuff send

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in by him by people in the
culture daily, like people send hundreds of

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things daily, and he just reposts
it, you know. Yeah, but

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he adds his you know, comedy
to it, and that's just funny.

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It's so it's so funny that,
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a thing at the comedy store just
said a little mystery, you know,

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surprise comedian Knight, and it sold
out. There's other nights there that don't

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sell out with names on them,
and here he goes in with no names

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and sells it out. So obviously
there's something to be said about that,

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right if you could do that.
And we did a show up to YouTube

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Theater and he sold out that and
yeah, man, that was you know,

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all those things are They're fun to
do. You know. They're just

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ideas that you come out in your
head and you write them down on a

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piece of paper and then you see
it and the end result and you're like,

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damn, man, that was bad. As you know, I do

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have a couple of things under my
belt now and a couple of of my

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projects are have been seen, so
for sure, but the groundwork is still

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going. Yeah, it doesn't stop. Yeah, now that's inspiring stuff for

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sure. What's let you in your
career? Did you feel proud of yourself?

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Did you see my person that's just
locked in you You're trying to just

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keep going, you know, yeah, I guess I get proud of myself

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after I see the project and people
like people's reaction to the projects. Like

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if I have an art show and
I like some pictures are up on the

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wall and I see people's reaction to
them, like either they're laughing or they're

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like crying, you know, people
cry and they see my photos and like

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that's kind And I would just say
like you okay, you know, I

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didn't know what was wrong with them, And they're like, yeah, this

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picture just reminds me of this,
that and the other. My my my

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family, my life, and I
was like, oh, okay, that's

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cool. You know, I didn't
know what they were crying about, you

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know, but it was ended up
being the photo, which was was cool.

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You know. I have a feeling
that your artwork sparks emotions and people,

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you know one and inspires yeah,
generations to come. So that's kind

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of when I notice it. But
after that I'm driving home, I forget

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all about it onto the next one. You know, Yeah, I know,

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right. It's tough to stop and
think about what you're doing when you're

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just after so much. Yeah.
This this I was on a call today

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is zoom and they're like, okay, everybody go around, you know,

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in the Zoom, everybody go around
and introduce yourself and what you do.

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And I'm like, what I do? Like what do you want me to

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do? Like what what part of
what I do? You know? Exactly

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where do I start? Bro?
Yeah, just give us an update.

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I just go to ninety two.
I go, you know, I was

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doing construction work in the clubs.
Yeah, and I got you know,

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I met up with Mugs in eighty
nine and you know, he put me

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on to a job with House of
Paint in ninety two, and you know,

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I just go that route. And
you know, ninety two, two

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of five, two thousand and five, I was tour managing. Then I

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picked up a camera in between that, and that led me in the photography

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and directing. And it's just like, uh, you know, you try

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to hit the key points, you
know, so that you don't drag it

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out and make it a big old
deal. You know. But after I

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hear myself saying the things, I'm
like, damn, that's pretty cool,

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you know. Yeah, Yeah,
there's so much in between that you just

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like it would be hours and hours. Yeah, I don't want to bore

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nobody. Yeah, and be like, oh man, listen to this guy.

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He's all over himself. We keep
it humble, We keep it with

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all your accolades and and all the
things you've done and accomplish. What keeps

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you going? Like, you know
what I'm saying, does that drive to

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do photography? One of the main
things is bills moving. Yeah, I

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don't have a four oh one k
or or a retirement program set up for

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me, And uh, I just
go, you know, like I'm going

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out the job project to project and
try to put a little aside. You

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know when it comes like that,
and that holds me over to the you

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know, when there isn't those things
just rolling in like that. The trip

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is like people are like, oh, yeah, we wanted to hire you

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for this big job, but we
thought you were like too busy. You

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know. I'm like, well,
you could have hit me up and asked

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me, you know, because as
a matter of fact, I wasn't right.

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I'm free, what's sung? Yeah
for the money, I'm free.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm free,
but it costs Yeah, and you know,

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I'm my own boss, so I
could you know, switch things around?

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You know, yes, sir.
So that always trips me out.

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And people are like, we wanted
to get you the thing, but we

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know you're busy. I'm that's crazy. Ask me first, man, shout

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out you're booking in for right now? Yeah? Yeah, people know,

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man, in a few words,
right, describe your relationship with cartoon that

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you know been a twenty five year
you know, friendship and business relationship.

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And we did a lot of things, you know, we did a lot

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of companies, a lot of projects, you know, open the doors for

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a few people here and there,
helped a lot of people, whether it

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was in the industry or not in
the industry. You know, we did

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a lot of outreach programs for at
risk youth or like homeless or addicted people.

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And we also at the same time
where we were helping out the the

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like the kids that were at risk
and never would get a shot at something

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that or felt like they couldn't.
We were trying to you know, show

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them a you could do this too. We would also hit up the art

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schools, like the guys that were
at the top of their class and be

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like, you know, let's see
what you got. And you know,

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this is where you guys are headed. So you know, all the hard

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work that you guys have been putting
in, it's going to pay off like

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quick. So you know, after
you get out of school right here,

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you know, get ready to come
in the workforce, and I'm ready for

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you. So you know we're gonna
have some friendly competition. That's right.

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That's right. You got gold teeth, Yeah, I had a Let me

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see, they get a you know, after a few years, they get

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a little bit old and they start
chipping in your front. If you start

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eating like you know, corn nuts
or whatever, just like a little chip

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comes and then you go eat something
else another chip and you're like, oh,

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man, just like I started looking
like I had a gap in the

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front of my teeth, and I
was like, I'm just gonna in this

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before it gets ugly. Do something
about it now, yeah, like a

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tweak or something. Right, you
gonna step on lady dogs. Check on

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the homie, Bro, he's losing
all his teeth. So I just capped

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it off and instead of buying some
more parts from my low writer, I

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bought something from my face. Hip
Hop tail Infinity tickets are available now at

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hip Hoptailinfinity dot com. We appreciate
the time and energy, bro, and

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of course the art and the pictures
and everything else. Thank you very much,

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man, man, thank you guys
for having us, and everybody needs

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to check that out. It's a
I've done. You know, I've done

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at least fifty exhibits, you know, big exhibits around the world, and

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this one was special for me.
You know, something different, and it's

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cool, man. Yeah, man, I think like yeah in l A

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for l A by l A Bro
right exactly, yes, sir, I

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should write lyrics, yeah right,
crazy step on, Thank you, Bro.

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We appreciate you guys. Cruise show
real ninety three. Hey checking Rich

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