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M m hey, I hello,
is this microphone on? It is now?

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It's the Giant bobcast. What's today? Somebody held the outday Tuesday seventeen,

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twenty eight days to three. Oh
god, I don't know. Yah,

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punning that out there, jerk.
There's a there's a monitor in the

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engineering pit that has a literal countdown
with a volcano about to erupt in the

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background. It's just it's gonna burst
forth a bunch of salty tears and sweat

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and blood and other fluids. It's
gonna be great, but accumulate in the

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run up to E three is fun. It's all right. I like you

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three a lot. It's the happiest
place on her Brad Shoemaker Danny old wires

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here, Hey, what's up?
Thanks for having me second happiest place on

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earth. Yes, Ireland Dance.
Do you want to come to the Odwire

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Nation? What do you got there? It's a new convention I'm putting on.

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Yeah. It's between kind of funny
live and twitch con O'dwire Nation.

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Get your tickets now. It's just
getting drunk in a pub. Okay,

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okay, so cool. It's gonna
be corn beefs there. That's like an

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American thing. How it's like,
what wait, really, corn beef hash

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is not an Ireland It's just so
good. Sure, it's it's like not

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that good. It's corn to beef. It's corning like something you do to

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the beef, Like it's corn a
verb in this instance? Or is it

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corn and beef? What is corn
to me? Like you put it in

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a husker or what it's like ruining
it? It's delicious. This is how

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do you corn? Something is a
complete guess. But does it involve peppercorns?

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Maybe? Maybe it doesn't have that
sort of texture. Oh like those

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little peppers in there. Yeah,
okay, I think it's what you do.

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It's a parts of the caddy you
wouldn't otherwise ease to make it at

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it. That's it kind of comes
off to me as I'm not a big

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fan of corn beef. That's so
good. I love it. Give me

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a nice it's spam esque, Yes
you had I've never had spam or corn.

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What but their meat? You love
meat? I get real meat.

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I don't get to be out of
a can for once. I'm out of

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my McDonald cannot I'm on his side
for once. I cannot agree with Master

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read corn beef is definitely real neat. Also, spam massubi is the way

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to have spam. Ye, spam? What massoubi? What does that mean?

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Is that like a susi Japanese preparation. Yeah, you basically make sushi

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out of spam. It's basically spam
sushi. You could get it at any

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seven eleven in Japan and it's amazing. Oh wow. Okay. And and

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in Hawaii it's all over the place. Yeah, put it with some rice,

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roll it up with some some seaweed. Okay, it's it's not all

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right, some some sesames seeds.
A you're gonna get that in Hawaii?

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Oh maybe? Yeah, yeah,
you're going Hawaii. I'm going Hawaii.

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Maori what whoa? Man? That's
right Tomori. That's how they say it

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in Hawaii. Yeah, that much
Hawaii? Do you speak? I just

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realize that I didn't know what I
was trying to take a guess, take

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a guess, but like, it's
what what do they called the language?

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It's aloha? And you know,
take a guess of what the language is

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called. Yeah, it's not Hawaiian
Eese, is it? Hang on?

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Hang on? I'm not trying to
be stupid. Here. I'm trying to

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think there is this is great.
I don't there's a drink that could help

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you out here? Oh oh the
fucking Hawaiian punch. Oh Hawaiian? What

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did I say? Wait? What
the fuck did I say? Said?

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Hawaii? Do you speak Hawaii?
I think I was trying to say,

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like Hawaiian eese or something? Did
say I know Hawaiian? Yeah? Sorry,

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I don't know what the fuck happened
there. Hawaiian. Yes, I'm

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familiar with that word. I know
Aloha, right, I know aloha right

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right, that's two things. Mahalow
okay, mahalo is melee khaliki maka okay

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ohana man one. Yeah. In
some territories, okay, what's what's what

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did you say? Like family,
it's okay? Iwo jima, that's that's

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not at all completely different party in
island midway, Yeah, yepal sure,

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man. Everybody getting hell out of
here this week? Yeah, Jeff,

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Jeff is off doing E three things
free, E three things I should say

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he's doing. Yeah, Rory's bouncing
something. I don't know, Rory skip

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town. You're getting out of here? Yes, man, it's just gonna

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come here. This is yeah,
it'd be me Dan Rager, Jay's Nace

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Dragger. They're putting out a bunch
of hit Man DLC. It would be

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great. I gotta have something to
do. Yeah, we only got one

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shot at that last one and it
didn't go so well. Kill the guy.

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That's true. You really screwed it
up after that target. Die.

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That's all that matters. How's it
going, Danny, It's gone good.

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Yeah. I had a great weekend. It was really sunny, and I

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spent all day in a room trying
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That's exactly what I did too.
It's a great way to go. I

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felt like I was fourteen all over
again. It's like a so good,

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gorgeous day outside and here I am
being a total dirt eye. I like

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just playing this hell shooter game.
Do you have blackout curtains? No?

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I do not, hon just treat
yourself. I don't want to do that.

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Black blackout curtains are a gift that
you give tears. That's like that,

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that's too close to like college down, that's too close to like Wall

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the War Cross like it's like a
classy way to make it. Titch Black

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at twelve in the afternoon classy supposed
to like as opposed to like putting tinfoil

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or cardboard up on the windows.
Oh, I get the cartains for at

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least they're actually curtains. Okay,
terrible. Yeah, my cats would freak

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out. That would be too much. Cats like it in the dark,

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Yeah, but not when it's like
perpetually dark, and then they are in

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hell. They might as well be
playing Doom themselves. Yeah, yeah,

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doom. I hear that's good.
Yeah, you want to jump right in.

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We keep playing. It is so
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good is Yeah. Pause for me, still look quite used to that yet.

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My favorite part of the past couple
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it. It's so weird. I
think like some of these guys had like

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forgotten that there ever was segment music, or like I think Dan said he

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had never heard it before. No. Never, I don't think Dan's listened

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to the podcast. I don't listen
to any podcast never have. That's fair.

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I will not hold that against you. It's a big commitment. Yeah,

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I'd like to commend you, Brad
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the ads. Oh yeah, yeah, I think It's really good. The

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way that the music comes in,
It's just the right level and yeah,

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little fade in some auto ducking.
Yeah, I was thinking I might buy

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a mattress. Really that effective nice. Some smooth jazz on there this week,

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dude, is good enough that I
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the whole game twice. I don't
know what was going on with you.

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Yeah, but that's actually reached out
to me after I tweeted about it.

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It's thought I was in developer mode
or had enabled cheats or something which I

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had not opened up a console or
anything. Uh. Yeah, sorry,

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that's what I do. I'm a
great hacker. No, but does that

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seems to think it's because my girlfriend
was playing on her Steam account on the

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same machine and somehow like her file
was showing up a slot two and mine

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was slot one, even though it
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that made something weird and it flagged
them as cheating. And so yeah,

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it says like, oh, you
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everything you do is going to be
flagged. Any snap map stuff you do,

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you know, like you're not gonna
be able to get the achievements or

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whatever, and the only solution,
it seemed was like I uninstalled the game

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completely, reinstalled it. I played
another couple of chapters again for the second

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time, and then got the error
again and then had to do all that

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bullshit again to leap my saves with
two different folder and all this stuff,

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and but hears that I can do
it now, right, so like it's

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just the same. I'm going now, it is just the same. I

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had the same, Like the first
thing I will look like the second thing

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I did Friday morning after you come
out was pulled the console down and type

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in god, because why wouldn't you
did? I didn't try that one.

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I mean their achievement names, Like
there's an IDKFA achievement names. One of

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their achievements is called IPX setup dot
exc's so good, and I feel like

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that embodies like everything about the spirit
of this game, like it is.

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It is really such a sublime throwback
to the first two Doom games, but

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also like incredibly modern in like a
way that I didn't think it's software head

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in them. This game has like
no right being as good as I'm like,

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I can't fathom like the bizarre run
up to this thing like like working

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backwards, like you know, most
recently it was they're not sending out review

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copies, like that's the bad stuff. And then multiplayer Beata was like,

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oh, you guys are making like
a Halo thing for the multiplayer was not

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amazing, and like, you know, walking back a couple of years,

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it's like, you know, all
their big names have gone totally. I

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mean even when you think about the
trailers that were shown for this game.

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Yeah, the gameplay stuff demanded backlash, there was to the glory kills.

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There still are, you know,
even post release, there's been major bad

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I've seen a ton of people laying
about that. Oh yeah, I mean

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I am. I am as big
a doom purist as you can find,

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and like, I feel like it
fits this gamely. I love of the

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gameplay and it like especially because you
can speed them up to like three x

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or oh you can't. Yeah,
is that just a setting? No,

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it's a ruin that. Yeah,
there's a ruin that. Oh no shit,

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Oh that's cool. No, No, I want to say that.

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I think they are super super cool. I like them a lot. Another

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thing that you may not notice is, well, so the glory kills of

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people haven't played it, or the
kind of the canned animation mainly executions that

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you do when you like whittle a
guy's health down or whatever. But they

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have gameplay benefit because they drop health, you know, and like health is

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up and down like crazy in this
game, like enemy attacks do a lot

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of damage, which is like a
one of the many ways in which they

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have sort of modernized. I don't
even want to say modernized, because what

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we're sort of used to with games
like this or just modern games across the

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boar would be it like a new
Doom or a new tomb Raider or a

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news or Thief or whatever is that
you you get these old games that are

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they make the game for the sort
of modern version of what that is in

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the genre, right, and then
they take sort of staples from that old

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game and inserted into a modern game, right. And that's kind of what

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like Doom three was in a way. It was like, okay, first

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person shooters in aay sort of linear
you know, atmospheric games like Half Life

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and Half Life too, So we're
gonna we're gonna make like a Doom version

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of that, right, And that's
what kind of Wolfenstein was as well,

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which is like, Okay, we're
gonna make a greedy, bombastic first person

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shooter, but it's gonna have all
the sort of Wolfen signed tropes in there,

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and it was a fun game.
We're really good guns and stuff.

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But what Doom is is almost like
the inverse of that were. What they've

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done is they've taken the Doom classic
games of old and they have solved the

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problems that we're in there using modern
gameplay mechanics. So in a way this

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feels like like down to like the
way the flow it has feels so much

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like it to the point where it
last night, I remember, you know,

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there's a certain stage where there are
just red barrels everywhere, and I

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was avoiding red barrels and I was
like, I haven't avoided red barrels since

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Doom one and two, like that's
in here, or I haven't like gotten

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lost in a map and had to
go back to the stupid wireframe thing,

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or I haven't like searched forever for
a yellow key. And it turns out

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all that stuff within the confines of
this game is as fun as it was

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to all of those years ago,
and I don't know how they did it.

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Yeah, I feel like I feel
like I'm playing this going like this

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has been as good as it was
twenty years ago. All this time and

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nobody was doing this well. I
think the maps are a huge part of

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it, because those maps are great
and kind of sprawling and a lot of

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again they're complicated, like the paths
overlap each other if you have to go

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to the map and think about where
to go in a lot of cases,

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and then and the map itself is
actually it conveys a lot of information cleanly.

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You know, it's pretty easy to
tell where you are and where things

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are above you or below you.
Yeah, even though you get you get

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some levels where there are like five
levels to the terrain that's stacked on top

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of each other in the map initially
is just like I can't parse this,

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but like it's actually super easy to
pop in and out and like look around

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and trying to figure out how to
get the secrets and stuff like that.

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It's like fun to explore a first
person game, which I can't. Like,

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I feel like I'm so burnt down
on first person games that they're playing

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them for twenty years or whatever that
like it's so surprising to play a game

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like this and actually, like it
was one stage, I was just lost

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for fifteen minutes trying to find my
way into a place, and it was

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fun. There's something pleasant about it. It's because you've gotten so used to

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super linear first person shooters in the
last couple of generations. And also it

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is to feel open is incredible.
Also it was telegraphing things to you,

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right, yelling to think at all, right, there's there are no NPCs

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will follow over their head in this
game, you know. Yeah, and

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like and and in those games,
like as as much as their linear,

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like you're also just doing one thing, you know, just shooting everything that

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gets in front of you until you
get to the next story beat. You

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know, Like this game has backtracking, It has moments of like quiet,

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yeah, you know when you've killed
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are trying to figure out where to
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and like really beneficial secrets as well. So it's not just like collecting dolls

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or whatever so you can unlock you
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But uh, yeah, more importantly, it's like weapon upgrades. Yeah,

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like they're there are like upgrade systems
on upgrade systems in this game.

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maybe too dense at first, but it

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all feeds back into like what you're
doing and feels really good. Yeah,

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it's it's like which were used to
upgrade systems adding such a piecemeal bullshits and

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so many whereas this feels like,
you know, a way like Unreal tournaments,

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probably more so than than Doom or
Quake. All those guns had like

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alternate fire modes that you're basically just
unlocking alternate fire modes for all these games,

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and they're like just like those old
games, they're awesome. Yeah,

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and and and the challenges to further
upgrade all that stuff are like things that

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you have to think about and like
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like I gotta th that was like
like you can stick these little rockets like

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the old fire and the machine gun. It's like you can stick these little

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rockets, guys. And the challenge
to get the like mastery unlock on that

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thing was like successfully stick four imps
in five seconds and kill them with those

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girls. Like it's hard stuff,
you know. It's like really thoughtful challenges

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like having to like lure a hell
night over next to a ledge get through

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the week there, and they do
the death from Above swing. So with

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the glory kills, I didn't realize
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be at least six or eight different
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you're coming from. So it's like
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like if you actually duck down and
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a different Like they're really Yeah,
there's tons of them. It's also all

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the chainsaw kills, which are great. Yeah, that's when they just put

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their hands up in an X to
try to block it. It's like,

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fuck you, I'm just sawing right
through your arms. Yeah, Like you

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know, the kind of the viscera
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but like what it serves in a
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to me. Yeah. Yeah,
Like there's a huge risk reward of like,

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well I staggered that guy, Do
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get the health when there's like ko
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stuff is so much fun. Yeah, and the glory kills keep you in

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there and don't. It's that whole
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constantly looking over your shoulder to where
the nearest manufact was. And they do

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have manifacts littered around the arena which
help out, but you know you're because

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the next glory killing you do,
we'll give you that a little bit more

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health. And what I like about
the difficulties is that the higher difficulty you

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go with, the less health you
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it's constantly, like like you said, it's like your your health is like

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a heartbeast. It's just like jumping
up and down and you're hoping by the

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end of the last enemy is falling
that you're still standing there. But if

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you're not, unlike so many other
first person shooters, jumping back into that

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arena is like super super fun.
It just depends that, like whether it's

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still fun after like eight hours,
hours, ten hours. That's why it

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didn't bug me that much when I
had to restart. It's like, well,

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you know, if I had to
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and then go through a bunch of
slow, bullshit tutorial stuff, I would

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hate it. But no, that
game starts right away. First five minutes

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of that game are Yeah, maybe
the best first five minutes I've ever seen

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in the video game. It doesn't
wait, fie crazy what they did with

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this game, like, especially after
Doom three took itself like overly seriously,

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Like this game's got the perfect amount
of reverence for its own bullshit, you

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know. Yeah, Like I'm just
it's it's in the intro, so I'm

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just gonna say it. But like
what they do with the Doom Guy and

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this thing is fucking hilarious because they
frame him as this like this divine crusader,

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you know, this like this like
avenger that's like you know, like

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exacting justice on all these demons or
whatever. You know, Like you wake

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up in this like inscribed stone sarcophagus
and you step out. I guess you

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haven't even seen this. That's that's
the opening scene of the game. You

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like, like you like sit up
on this stone sarcophagus and kill some shit.

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Walk in the other room and there's
the Doom Guy armor like enshrined in

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candles and pentagrams and all this ship. When you're seeing holograms of people like

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bowing and worshiping to your tomb and
stuff. God, Like they take the

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the ultimate generic video game protagonist,
Like he's so generic that all anybody ever

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called him was Doom guy, and
they and they build this insane tongue in

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cheek mythology that is so awesome.
It is incredible, Like they lawed him

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as a demigod almost like the you
know video game culture has and then has.

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Like my favorite thing was to the
right of him is this like perfect

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Doom three esque screen which you see
a lot of in this game, which

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says like in Hell Invasion, yeah, like like demonic Invasion, yes,

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perfect. The writing is so ridiculous, yeah, unsaved, which I love

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because that implies that there's a same
level of Demonic Invasion. I just hit

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a little little story beat kind of
thing where you know, you get the

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little after images, the little holograms
or like here's what happened, and here's

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where the echoes or whatever. He's
probably what you need to do next.

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Like there was a scene of a
demon like dragging a corpse off and the

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computer AI voice comes in and it
says that demon took your key card.

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You should go get it. What
Uh, it's man, it's so crazy.

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So how much have you played?
Because I'm on the level seven or

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eight, I forget, like I'm
I'm taking way longer than I should get

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through it because I'm playing on ultra
violence, which seems like the way to

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play, Like that's it's it's fucking
hard. Yeah, I mean, you

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know it's not unmanageable, but you'll
die a few times a level. Uh.

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And also like just I'm obsessively going
after every secret in every level,

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like it's so much fun to try
to sing out. Like it's weird because

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one of the first suit upgrades you
can get is a thing that just marks

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every secret on your map. You
know, it's like, well that's within

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a radius, well yeah, near
it fortal market for you. But like

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initially it seems like, oh,
that's just gonna lead me by to the

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nose to everything there is to get, but like it turns out knowing where

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those things are doesn't really help because
it's actually figuring out how to navigate the

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environment. And like, okay,
what what weird unconventional series of like climbing

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or platforming or like what switch do
I need to find before I can actually

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get to like security station? You
have to like power down stuff. It's

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it's almost like little level design puzzles
like wow, this didn't look like a

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jump I could make, but like
I actually there's a room you get that

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gives you a ton of air control
right on the double jump, like after

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your second jump, because you get
a double jump at some point, and

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then when you get this room equipped, you could pretty much strafe in mid

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air or the double jump. You
can like like move completely to the like

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like really juke over to the left
and stuff. And then they start throwing

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secrets at where you at you where
you like have to do that's awesome.

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You have to like hit a bounce
pad, fly across a chasm and then

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like sort of juke left in mid
air into a little cave to get a

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secret and stuff like it's it's super
satisfying or any of those abilities like something

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that you would have to use in
the earlier levels. Like you mentioned backtracking

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before, but it's like can I
get these during one play through? Yeah,

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you can go back. You can. Yeah, you can get them

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all up front, but you can
also go back if you the levels are

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isolated, but you can go back
to MISSIONSSI Okay, yeah, but they

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don't force you to. It's not
like you need that that double jump in

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order to to get some stuff,
and like Metroidy like that, it's gotcha.

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Yeah, I've I've finished every level
with like one hundred percent of the

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stuff finished in that level. Awesome. When I moved on, man,

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it's just it plays so well,
Like the combat is so much fun,

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Like it's so nimble and motible.
It's like, what you weren't supposed to

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be that good, dude? What
the hell? The multiplayer stuff and everybody

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was lukewarmed to it and then it's
like, well, single players probably just

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like all the hallmarks of a game
that would have had trouble, Like this

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game has been stopped and started how
many times? I mean it'd have done

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this with I mean Quake four.
I feel like it's still having recovers from

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Quake four like this kind even like
the I forgot the John's game. But

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the guy who was in charge of
this to creative lead was also the lead

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on Quake Live, Marty Marty Stratton. Yeah, so I was super surprised

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to see that he was involved in
this because, like my fear was like

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if you go way back in the
history of the Studio, Like I think

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Quake three is the last thing they
did that was universally agreed upon as like

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this is amazing, right, like
like Team Arena was the expansion for that

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and nobody like that. Yeah,
Doom three like very divisive game. Rage,

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same thing, Like a lot of
people are pretty down on Rage and

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that's all they've put out for the
last like fifteen years. Right, So

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and then to see like oh John
Carmack left and all these other people left

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that were there back in the day. I mean Wolfenstein didn't even come anted

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him, right, what I means
right? That was that was machine so

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like like it felt like just everything
was working against this game being and like

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setting aside, like how seminal like
Doom and Quake are like the part of

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me he wants to say, this
is like the best thing they've ever done,

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Like it's it is crazy how how
well put together it is. How

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do you think you do that?
Like when you want to introduce something to

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to your new Doom game, like
weapon upgrades? Yeah yeah, like h

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Doom doesn't have that and freak out
on its face. That sounds terrible,

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right, Yeah, Like like a
Doom game where you have to upgrade all

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your weapons, But I don't know. Somehow they make it work. They

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just make it fit into the like
the combat framework and the way the levels

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flow. It seems like they have
a very strong and I haven't played the

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game, but it's from hearing you
guys talk about it, it seems like

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the developers have a very strong idea
of what the character of doing that is.

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So I read Time, or I
think it was Time that did an

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interview with Marty Stratton, like like
you said, the code and the code

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director, I think, And so
I don't know if you've seen, like

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this game was in development for like
eight years, like they basically had a

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big part of a game that they
completely flushed down the toilet and he talks

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about that stuff, and some of
that footage got out, and if you

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guys have seen in, it basically
looks like of Duty with demons, like

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it's on Earth. Yeah, it's
on Earth. It's like it's all it's

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all brown and beige looking and with
like aim down sits and like your protagonist

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just looks like a modern military type
person. And yeah, they made most

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of that game and the gretty reboot
right Doom right, and then like three

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years ago. He said. They
stepped back and looked at it and they

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were like, well, this is
okay, but it's not doom. So

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they flushed it. Oh that's beautiful, and then like it literally sounds like

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they just sat down and said,
like, all right, what are the

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tenants of doom? Like what does
it need to have so be good and

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be doom? And it's just like, you know, make it fast,

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like the guns awesome and fun and
like you know, you don't have to

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reload and pam yeah yeah, yeah. Like I think that that alone is

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just like that embodies like there's no
recharging health right right, Like yeah,

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it's like health packs and no reloading. Like it's just a like I feel

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like the you're gonna be putting on
a weapon off grades forever by accidents with

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the arbut no constantly. But that's
like that's an interesting thing, right,

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is that they decide, Okay,
we're not gonna have matic facts or we're

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not gonna have regenerating health. But
like, how do you make a game

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in twenty sixteen with that regenerating health? Because I think if you make a

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game where you're hunting from medipax all
the time, you're going to run into

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the same problem that like so many
games to try and be that close to

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what their original source material was.
Is that Like it's great for the people

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who are having this wonderful nostalgic throwback, but it's not really that right,

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Like hell up to solve a problem, right, So like, so how

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do you go back to that and
not have the same problem? I mean,

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and they fix so many problems with
like creating that game for twenty sixteen,

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Like even backtracking through old environments isn't
really that fun. But because of

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the mantling and because of all this
crazy new motion stuff they've added to it,

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they've taken the sort of I don't
know the essence of what Doom is

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and added in things which I mean, the original Doom didn't have a jump

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on them at all. Right,
so but they've count look up no,

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right exactly, Like now it's crucial
to look and kind of see what you

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can mantle to. And there's a
lot of there's a lot of really subtle

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environmental touches. Like you'll notice they're
green lights on just about everything that you

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can mantle onto you, but but
they don't jump out at you as like

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here is the thing I need to
press X or the space bar on.

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You know. It's just it's just
it's very subtle that it leads you around.

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It's it's really affect. It's those
nice nostalgic touches, like the doors.

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Some of the doors make the exact
same noise. There's a lot of

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sound work in there. There's a
lot of like the kike emons, like

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when you hit him with a rocket
and make the same little weird, little

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croaking kind of screech sound like the
funko pop things and they go. There's

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there's a lot of really good sound
design in the I Love with later on

405
00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:22.200
and you're with your rifle when you're
shooting, it actually shoots like to the

406
00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:27.720
beat of the music. Yes,
it's like that intro like that he cocks

407
00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:32.119
a shotgun at the same time,
like in time with the intro music,

408
00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.240
like they fucking they fucking late title
card. It it's just like doom.

409
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:38.519
It's like pentagrams with fire and metal. And then he cocks the shotgun at

410
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:41.880
the end as like the final beat
of the of the music, and he

411
00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.240
punches he punches the elevator screen.
Yeah, which is the end of every

412
00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:49.319
Doom level is he punched the elevator
all the times. It's so emblematic of

413
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:53.160
what Doom should be. Like you're
you're like grandfatherly administrator comes in over the

414
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:57.400
radio. You're fucking Atlas figure.
Yeah, chimes in saying like we're gonna

415
00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:00.920
have to work together to solve this
invasion. Just listen to me and do

416
00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.359
what I say. He just fucking
punches the radio out of the way.

417
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:04.480
It just walks off, and then
he tries to give you that like orb

418
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:10.759
thing pretty early on. This is
super important to take care of this crucible.

419
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.799
You're gonna have to remove the filters
of this this like thing very slowly,

420
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:17.640
very careful kick and again all that
stuff again like ties back into the

421
00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:19.880
way that they like deify the Doom
Marine and the course of the game as

422
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:23.440
this like mythic larger than life figure. It is incredible, like some of

423
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.880
the even some of the flavor text
later on, just the little like diaries

424
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.039
that you pick up and stuff like
that. Stuff is so dumb and it

425
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.599
knows it like it knows it,
and it revels in how dumb it is.

426
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.319
It's incredible, even like the music
is dumb, but in a great,

427
00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:40.160
way great, it's good. Yeah, yeah, it's even perfect.

428
00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:41.480
But even my girlfriend was sitting there
saying, like, I would never listen

429
00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.240
to this music, but it's so
perfect for this specifically. Yeah, even

430
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.799
just like the atmospheric steff when you
we're looking around for secrets, just that

431
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.359
slow like reverb in your head sounds
really good. Yeah, totally totally get

432
00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.359
a lot. Yeah, and then
like like at the end of it all,

433
00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.440
like just the the individual combat encounters
are like some of the most tense

434
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.079
and exciting that I've played in a
shooter in like a fucking decade. Like

435
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.000
that's bad. Like there's a good
pacing, like there is that it's like

436
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.119
you get that left, you get
that bad. Sure, Yeah, there's

437
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:08.920
a lot of up and down for
sure. There's definitely times in between fighting

438
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.920
that you're like, you know,
it's quiet, you're poking around looking for

439
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.319
secrets and stuff. But like,
the enemies are so mobile in this game.

440
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.400
Like every enemy, even if it's
like a big ass pinky demon that

441
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.039
looks like it should be moving around
at five miles an hour or whatever,

442
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:25.599
like those things can jump like a
story high and up up like effectively,

443
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:27.240
like every enemy in the game can
follow you anywhere you go, and like

444
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.480
they do so very aggressively, like
they're like I was reading in that interview

445
00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.640
they had they had created that system
for Rage where guys could kind of like

446
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.599
climb up and down on platforms and
stuff. But I don't remember it standing

447
00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:40.440
out and really being meaningful in that
game. But I guess they look really

448
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:41.359
good. Yeah it looks neat,
but it was just like, oh,

449
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:44.559
well, they're all just going to
shoot at me with these hit scan rifles

450
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.759
anyway, like who cares. But
with so many enemies in this game that

451
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.039
have like melee attacks or like projectile
type stuff, like the way they move

452
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.000
around the environment means you can never
just kind of post up behind a box

453
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.319
and shoot at it totally. Like
it's so they're not like the cleverest things

454
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:00.960
in the world, but there's enough
of them in there in enough variety,

455
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.279
and there's enough weapon variety. And
also one of the brilliant things that's about

456
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:07.759
this game that again Harven's back to
the older games, is that ammunition scar

457
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.200
scarcity, which hasn't existed in FBS
games. I feel like for the longest

458
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:14.799
time, by the end of any
of these encounters usually just you're down to

459
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:15.559
here. Oh shit, I have
to use this gun. I hate using

460
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.720
Yeah, but you know, they're
not the cleverest thing, but that sort

461
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.160
of rock, vapor scissors combat stuff. They don't need to be particularly clever,

462
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:25.519
Like it's just fun, like trying
to get a bet of heights you're

463
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:27.799
away from some of the imps or
whatever. Yeah, and they found ways

464
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.759
to make all those systems work.
Like initially I saw that the chainsaw had

465
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.319
fuel on it. Yeah, fucking
what good is a chainsaw that you can't

466
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:37.119
just use forever? But then it
turns out, you know, like expending

467
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.359
chainsaw fuel guarantees you ammo pickups back, you know, so you're kind of

468
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:41.799
it's just like leap Frog and like, well, I'm out of gun Amo

469
00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.000
now, I'm gonna whip out chainsaw
and get gun ammo back and then I'll

470
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.440
have to find more chainsaw Ammo later. And it's just like it works,

471
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:49.759
and in a weird way, it's
actually made the chainsaw viable, like piece

472
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.640
of tech, because in the original
one, chainsaw was like, Okay,

473
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.559
I'll wait till I get like the
damage boost or whatever, and then I

474
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:59.319
can go kill everything, whereas in
this one it's actually a useful weapon.

475
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:00.759
It's not just like a joke.
Wepp and like the Gauntlet in Quake three

476
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:06.640
or something. Should we talk about
multiplayer? I haven't outside the quick like

477
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:08.920
I haven't even tried it. I
haven't touched snap map or the multiplayer.

478
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:12.480
And like even if those things weren't
even in this game, Like the campaign

479
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:17.160
alone is so strong, like I
would recommend it without reservation to anybody who

480
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.039
wants to play a fun shooter,
Like it's it's that good. But I

481
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:21.599
don't know. Have you have you
gone online? Up? Yeah? I

482
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:23.000
played a bunch of Debate and I
played last night maybe an I are a

483
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:26.839
multiplayer and it's it's like fine,
It's like it's fine, Like that's the

484
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.799
thing. It's not like it's terrible. It's just doesn't feel a lot like

485
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.640
Doom to me, yeah, or
Quake or any of those games that from

486
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:37.160
the id lineam characterized the Doom original
multiplayer. Well that's the weird thing because

487
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.720
like Doom had four player multiplayer,
but it was so rudimentary. It was

488
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.480
so primitive because it was like basically
the birth of deathmatch, you know,

489
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.279
but all it was was just,
oh, four players can run around on

490
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.160
the story maps and shoot each other
with a rocket launcher, which of the

491
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.359
time was plenty, you know,
but like Quake was the game where deathmatch

492
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.799
actually came into its own yeah in
the I games. But then it's weird

493
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.519
because they integrate Quake things like the
quad damage back into this game, and

494
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.960
it's just right is in this as
well, but like you know, this

495
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.759
has load outs, like you're limited
to two weapons at a time, Like

496
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.720
it feels like it's designed much more
for people who were into like Call of

497
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.799
Duty and Halo and that kind of
thing. And it's all team based stuff

498
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.160
as well. Right, every mode
is a team based mode. Like it's

499
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.960
it's not it's not like offensively bad
or anything. It's just not what I'm

500
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.160
looking for out of out of its
software multiplayer game. But then I'm the

501
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.640
guy that would rather go set up
a Quake server. I just played a

502
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:30.119
Quake one anyway, so I'm probably
a weird outlier. But maybe they're working

503
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.759
on a Quake game. Yeah,
Like so they didn't want to use all

504
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:38.640
those ideas on this one, so
they use all then God doxy sounds really

505
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.920
good. That's the thing. Like
it's it's it's so improbable that like you

506
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.279
know, Bethesa came in and bought
it, and like they are two for

507
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:49.920
two now on rebooting classic ID franchises
in like a brilliant way. Like I'd

508
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:55.480
never finished New Order the Wolfenstein game, but I played like half, probably

509
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.119
about half of it, and like
that thing completely different kind of game than

510
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.480
than this New Doom game is,
but like like a fantastic, like pitch

511
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.319
perfect modern re envisioning of Wolfenstein kind
of thing. Yeah, it felt true

512
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:08.920
to the original but also felt like
a modern game, right, and it

513
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.279
felt like a unique game. Yeah, frankly, yeah, you know,

514
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.319
it felt like I mean it basically
felt like a Starberries game because so many

515
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.119
of those guys left Starberries still to
make that, like it have those touches,

516
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.279
like their storytelling touches on it instead, and like stealth that actually worked.

517
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.519
Yeah, totally not not in Doom. No, no, no,

518
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.759
no no. The other thing to
mention, I guess is that you're all

519
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:32.319
playing on PC. I'm guessing.
Yeah, so I'm playing on PC two,

520
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:33.759
but obviously we had the PS four
and Xbox One versions in here as

521
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.880
well. This game looks amazing,
yeah, really even on even on that

522
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.680
like sixty frames a second. I
mean they do this thing. It's a

523
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.599
very thing actually, where the textures
sort of float in and out of quality,

524
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.720
like they don't have that pop like
unreal engine stuff. But like sometimes

525
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.200
everyone's in a while age rice or
like great, Yeah, I guess it's

526
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.160
probably closely too that, but it's
solid at sixty. Yeah. I ended

527
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:57.440
up switching to PS four even though
I wanted to. I would prefer to

528
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.039
play it on a mouse and keyboard, but my age and GPU couldn't hack

529
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:04.720
it all right, and those new
cards need to come out already, but

530
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.160
you know, I needed to check
out console for review stuff anyway, And

531
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.519
yeah, it fucking looks incredible,
Like like it's it's really crazy to see

532
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.920
Uncharted four and this game come out
in the same week and like like utterly

533
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.279
put the lie to the idea that
we need new console hardware immediately. You

534
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.279
know. It's like, dude,
these games, these consoles are just now

535
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:25.559
coming into their own and like really
putting out some impressive looking stuff. Uh,

536
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.240
it's I am fucking flabbercast, right, this game came out as good

537
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.359
as it did. It had no
right yeah to be this to be discod

538
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:34.559
and we're now talking. It's funny
like you mentioned quake three, right,

539
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:37.359
like or Quake four or quake five, whatever it how they call us this

540
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.519
quake probably this day if they ended
up doing that, like my my anticipation

541
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.359
for that has been totally reset over
while it was a better week ago,

542
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.480
because I was like, I would
have played and you probably would have been

543
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.839
the same rut. I would have
played a Doom game like it would have

544
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.319
been fine. The nostalgia would have
been enough. Yeah, But at the

545
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.519
same time, the expectations were low. The expectations were low. Everything was

546
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.160
working against this game being any good
at all, much less like better than

547
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.519
I thought they were actually capable of
thinking. And the thing that surprised me

548
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.720
the most is that not only was
I sort of like an hour in like,

549
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.039
oh, this is the game they
made, but like four hours later

550
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:12.880
I was I was getting increasingly impressed. But yeah, and I've talked to

551
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.480
Peter about it. He's reviewing it, and he's he's pretty he's completed a

552
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.359
single player. He says that like
later on it sort of overstays its welcome

553
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.119
a little bit, and then the
end has a really good crescendo. But

554
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.160
like I've already like played so much
in this game, and I would happen

555
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.000
to go back and restart from the
start on totally. It's I'm actually thinking

556
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.359
about doing that. Maybe, like
when when I get a better video card,

557
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.279
I might do like a night They've
even got like a kind of a

558
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.160
roguelike mode in there. There's rama, there is a Yeah, there is

559
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.240
a single death version of nightmare difficulty, which is higher than the one I'm

560
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.839
playing. Oh wow, where like
I need to look it up. I

561
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.720
didn't read the description. If I
remember an original Doom, nightmare meant your

562
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.799
health was always ticking down and you
like constantly had to find health pickups to

563
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.359
stay alive. And I don't know
if this has that, but but yeah,

564
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.759
like one death end you're done,
it drops a skull yeah where you

565
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.200
are, and I think, yes, it will show you in the level

566
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.680
next time, if you do another
run, you'll see where you died last

567
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:07.400
time. Yeah, it's it's really
something. I have not been this impressed

568
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.160
with a single player first person shooter, and I can't tell you how long

569
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.960
I have it. Yeah, Like
I'm not a big FPS guy, but

570
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.200
this is a totally that it sucks
in Yeah, it's like it's like I

571
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:21.640
feel like some people like these games
fine, and then then you know that's

572
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:23.960
totally fine. But like the serious
stams of the world, you know,

573
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:28.119
like the Heart Reset, like you
probably a Shadow Warrior, Like you can

574
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.680
think of all these games that like
harken back to that era, you know,

575
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:31.440
and they're saying like, hey,
we're an old school shooter, you

576
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:36.000
know, like they've always come like
this close to doing it for me,

577
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:37.880
and I never quite get it or
it never clicks for me, And like

578
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:43.119
it seems it just seems really appropriate
that this is the one that finally totally

579
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:49.480
nailed that style of game in twenty
sixteen. Probably do, Yeah, they

580
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.359
do. It is a guy will. It has earned the rices to caught

581
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.559
itself. Yeah it is right now. I am like dying to get out

582
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.720
of here and go and get back
to it, like that's all I did

583
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:02.480
this weekend. Stopps okay too,
Yeah, what exactly. It's a weird

584
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.559
thing. It's like it's like I
think, Dan, you basically said it

585
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.920
was like a little big planet for
Doom, right, Yeah, somebody's gonna

586
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:13.839
make a working calculating and it's kind
of appropriate. Like I mean, we

587
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.039
saw some just real basic stuff that
people would whip out in like a day

588
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:20.680
in Uh, we're shooting galleries and
we're shooting galleries and stuff like that.

589
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:22.440
But like Danny, you said,
you found a map that was like full

590
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.440
of musical instruments. Yeah, there
was like a music maker. So the

591
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:29.200
maps you can have up to four
people. I think they're all co op

592
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.640
no matter what. And they have
a bunch of different archetypes from point to

593
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:36.519
point, like single player experiences or
co op experiences, to like wave based

594
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:40.400
modes, to just like random soundboxes
and one. So these aren't multiplayer maps

595
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.960
and not sorry no, okay,
I think you could make like a Hord

596
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.839
mode kind of thing, right if
you want to take I think you can

597
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:51.799
set people to like different colored teams
so that maybe you can set up a

598
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.200
one v one v one v one. Ok I'm not sure, but most

599
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.720
of the archetypes are sort of allong
the co op lines. But yeah,

600
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.279
I found I found a bunch of
musical ones. I found one that was

601
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:06.319
just like straight up level Lord style
like disco platforms with Funky Town playing rudimentally

602
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:07.760
in the background. And then I
found this other one which was just a

603
00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:12.920
co op one that had like almost
like a big style keyboard in the front

604
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.000
that you had to activate by like
pressing the US yeah. Yeah, And

605
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:20.480
then there was a drum machine in
the corner which was like pulsating, and

606
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.719
I had like a four track drum
machine. And then in the other corner

607
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:27.199
was just a massive cowbell button so
I could just all make music together.

608
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.320
Yeah, so it's it's weird,
like kud knows, you know, someone

609
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.239
will make one one eventually, and
all somebody will do maps have already been

610
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.119
made as well. That's great,
a head no idea. It was so

611
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:38.960
fully featured, I guess. Yeah. And the Snapam thing itself is it's

612
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:43.760
it's not that difficult to use.
I made a single player level relatively simply.

613
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.639
I did the whole spawned like one
hundred you know, red barrels and

614
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:51.199
a bunch of cacademons and see you
have the framewory handle and it sounds fun.

615
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.320
But the one thing I'll say is
that on Sunday, so we got

616
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.360
it on Thursday and on on Sunday, most of the popular and featured maps

617
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.119
were the same, So I'm not
sure if people are really using it yet.

618
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.760
But like you know, like this
first. Yeah, exactly like you,

619
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.000
Like Brad said, like this game, single player and owner is totally

620
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.840
worth the absolutely the thing that you
should be there for. I did.

621
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.440
They said if they're doing like actual
mods, like are they just gonna open

622
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:17.400
up? I asked them about dash
and the sort of kg response was we're

623
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.679
hoping snap map will facilitate dash.
That's the wrong answer. Yeah, So,

624
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.599
like Doom is basically the game that
created mods, and they've been they've

625
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:30.760
sort of answered all the other questions
with like the menu system has so many

626
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:32.400
things that fans would ask for,
Like you can strip the hood out,

627
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.880
you can change the crosshairs, you
can get rid of like the the glory

628
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.360
kill highlights. You can do so
much. You can you can set that

629
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:43.440
the field of vision to one hundred
and twenty if he wants as well,

630
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.280
which is totally the way to play
at your fish eye on right. So

631
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.360
they have a lot in there.
But yeah, he was very much like,

632
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.800
yeah, is there a Christmas Doom
checkbox? Oh god, man,

633
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.239
I have been trying to find the
Christmas Doom wade that I had when I

634
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:00.239
was like fourteen for a very long
time, and I can't all they had

635
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.760
a little Santa hats on and they
threw snowballs. Can you can you imagine

636
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.719
if like just on Christmas Day that
just clicks over the saw God would be

637
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.039
so good. Like even not to
not to just keep you know, harping

638
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.159
on this game, but like the
little the little classic map interludes in every

639
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.880
in every level in this game,
like are weirdly satisfying to get into,

640
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.400
even though like half of them don't
even have enemies in them. That's kind

641
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.159
of weird. Yeah, but but
yeah, like there's like a little snippet

642
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.039
of a classic Duom level in every
map in this game, really, and

643
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.280
like and and you just literally open
a door, a secret door and walk

644
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:35.039
in there. Yeah. So like
being in this like lavishly detailed, like

645
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.719
twenty sixteen like beautiful looking game and
looking through this door and just seeing Doom

646
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.400
the weirdest contrast of just like,
man, look how far we've come in

647
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.239
twenty plus years. It's the same
thing with Wolfenstein the new ones, where

648
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:46.960
it's like, oh, I'm looking
up and down with this like perfectly detailed

649
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.920
gun, but it's these you know, blue chunky walls and these idiot guards.

650
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.519
It plays a check in on the
ground. Yeah, it's a it's

651
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.480
a very good game. You should
play it. Yeah, there's a lot

652
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.360
of goofy like these dregs in there
as well. Yea yeah, I feel

653
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.639
yeah, like, oh, there
is a skyri at easter egg of of

654
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.039
a sort that you can find.
I will let you guess which one it

655
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:12.599
is. It's the worst one,
yeah, but oh really, oh god,

656
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:14.679
but most of them, most of
them are pretty good. Like there's

657
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:19.119
there's some like yes, oh yeah, that one's pretty good. The sheer

658
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.119
number of people tweeting me that I
had to die in the lava on the

659
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.800
foundry stage, I was like,
Okay, I have a pretty good idea.

660
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:28.039
What happened here that fell in?
It's alright, that ruined it for

661
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.679
you? Yeah, Like no one
actually explicitly spoiled it for me, but

662
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:35.119
the number of people enthusiastically tweeting me, I was like, okay, this

663
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.519
can only be one yeah, yeah, and and again before we move on.

664
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.559
I just I can't stress how much
my favorite thing about this, even

665
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.639
though it plays so well, is
just how how little it takes itself seriously,

666
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:47.320
Like, yeah, how how tongue
in cheek it is about its own

667
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:51.639
legacy, and like what they do
with that is just brilliant. Dude.

668
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.840
There's a commander Keene Doll yeah in
one of the levels. Yeah. Wow,

669
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:59.280
yeah, it's it's good stuff.
That's all I played all weekend,

670
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:05.440
Drew. Yeah. Uh, but
then I'm charged. Yeah. I also

671
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.760
a pretty good game. Yeah.
Yes, how deep in are you chapter

672
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.639
eight or something? Okay, you're
right around where it's really starting to pick

673
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.800
up. I think, yeah,
I it's interesting. We were talking about

674
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.960
modern level design and leading you a
certain way. I'm kind of having a

675
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.639
tough time with the level design,
like I keep getting lost, uh and

676
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:29.559
just kind of frustrated. But it's
like, I don't know, it's okay.

677
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.519
Uh, Like I'm okay with it
just because it is so pretty to

678
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:36.800
look at me, you know.
I hammer I oh, I'll jump this

679
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:38.360
way and I know I won't make
it, but I'll die anyway and it'll

680
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:42.400
restart me and I'll I mean just
in terms of like looking around the environment

681
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.079
and saying, like what is the
next hand hold on the stuff like that.

682
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.400
It's it's interesting like that game,
uh, Mirror's Edge to some extent,

683
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:54.159
Like when games do that, you
start to rely on that and then

684
00:38:54.239 --> 00:39:00.000
you like your brain loses the ability
to solve problems. Yeah, so it

685
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:06.719
I kind of had the problem with
The Last of Us, where I guess

686
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:10.360
this is sort of in the same
ballpark of that feeling is in Enemy Encounters.

687
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:16.039
I was having a hard time because
I was playing on a normal difficulty

688
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:20.639
and so I thought it was easy, and so I didn't take it as

689
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.760
slow as I could, and then
I ended up dying a lot more than

690
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:27.960
when I bumped it up to hard
and started taking my time a lot more.

691
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.880
So I'm just having some time to
adjust, But I like the game

692
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:35.400
a lot. Yeah, I had
kind of a similar experience with that thing,

693
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.320
where like the disconnect for me is
that I stopped trying to think how

694
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:42.079
I would do something, and I
start trying to think what do they want

695
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.440
me to do? Ye, Like
what did the designer of this want to

696
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.079
lead me toward? And like that's
a different question than just like how would

697
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:50.599
I approach this problem? You know, like it definitely leads to some dead

698
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.599
ends and stuff, But yeah,
did you play through that? Yeah?

699
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:57.440
I tried to complete that and do
them over the weekend and failed on both

700
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.119
agains because I kept jumping from one
aga. Yeah, it's a good problem

701
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.920
to have. Yeah, I'm almost
at the end, and yeah, this

702
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.199
is like I enjoyed the third first
in action games. I'm not a huge,

703
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.199
huge fan like I enjoyed Arya.
Two was was wonderful. Three he

704
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.280
was fine. I sort of banced
out on it. But this is incredible.

705
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.639
It's weird, like since four came
out, like this groundswell of hatred

706
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.800
for three has come out. Hatred. I remember when it first came out,

707
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.840
most people were disappointed that I talked. I was disappointed for sure.

708
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.199
I definitely see some people maybe they're
lunatics here and there, like literally calling

709
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.800
that game garbage and stuff. You
know, it's it's still that's just dumb

710
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.159
internet hyperbole. It's a really good
game, but it makes me second guests

711
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.880
liking it at the time and thinking
like you should go back and play it.

712
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.599
Maybe it really was a tree rick. It just didn't do much to

713
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:43.119
top two. You know, there
wasn't any big step up really, I

714
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.320
didn't think the set pieces were as
good. Didn't really do anything control or

715
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.519
gameplayer or certainly story wise. So
yeah, and two was such a huge

716
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.639
step up that you know, you
can't expect that every time. But then

717
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:55.320
Ford did that again. Yeah,
yeah, just need a little bit of

718
00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.599
time. I guess I finished four
since last week's show stuff later in the

719
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:06.400
game. Super happy with gameplay wise? Is it like I kind of mentioned

720
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.119
my review that it kind of stays
a little over lawn of that stuff,

721
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.360
Like, Yeah, it's pretty much
exactly what you like. In fact,

722
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.880
I feel like almost everybody could agree
on exactly which parts it is that are

723
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.760
superfluous. There's like there's like one
firefight and one climbing sequence too many.

724
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.599
Yeah, and I think I think
everybody could point it exactly which too.

725
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:23.440
I think I might be in the
middle of that, right. Yeah,

726
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:25.960
Like it was very much like,
oh, I thought it was going to

727
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:29.880
end this chapter, but there's actually
two more chapters and it's more of that

728
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.679
stuff. And then, can I
say, withouts spoiling anything, because we

729
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:36.960
talked about the wonderful the Easter eggs
and Doom unshotted form may have the most

730
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:42.119
pitch perfect, brilliant Easter egg well
I have ever exag I got a bone

731
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.920
to pick here. I know what
part you're talking about, and it's awesome

732
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:46.599
because everyone said it on Twitter for
a long time and it goes so deep.

733
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:52.719
What is one of the defining characteristics
of an Easter egg. That okay,

734
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.760
that like it's hidden. Okay,
yeah, one thing that you can't,

735
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.360
like, an integral part of the
story that you can't skip past.

736
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.320
I see every don't think Easter eggs
Easter egg but like Easter eggs early in

737
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.960
the game. No, it's early
in the game. It's are we talking

738
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:07.360
about something different? Like? Okay, wait, if you haven't played un

739
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.440
chart at four and you don't want
to know what this is, turn it

740
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:13.199
off. I'll turn this podcast off
right now. Okay. All I'm gonna

741
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:17.159
say is how appropriate you fight like
a cow? Fight like a cow?

742
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.039
What you any of you? Oh? No, the hell are you talking?

743
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:22.039
No? No, I am not
talking about what you guys are talking

744
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.400
about what happens in the third chapter. Yes, are you talking? I'm

745
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:29.000
talking about the Monkey Island reference.
Oh I didn't get that. Oh,

746
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.400
oh my god, I've ever played
Monkey Island. Oh my god. Okay,

747
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:35.440
we're talking about totally difference. Okay, do you remember this is so

748
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.599
fast forward thirty seconds? If you
haven't seen this, do you remember the

749
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.360
painting of the one pirate that they
don't know who it is and he doesn't

750
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.519
recognize the monkey stage. Do you
remember that that's guyber straightfoods? What?

751
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.840
Yes? Is it? But is
it like a stylized like super realistic like

752
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.280
barroque painting looking and they keep going
back to it, and like Nathan that

753
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.400
one says says, oh, that's
the second biggest like temple I've ever seen,

754
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.440
which is that's the second big monkey
head I've ever seen. And when

755
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.679
when you have actually find that another
painting of him in that big room,

756
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:06.679
it's like gu and then it's burnt
off the rest of that's crazy. That's

757
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:07.760
that's really good. Yeah, I
had no idea. And he says,

758
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.519
oh, he looks younger than the
other pilots are pirates, which is a

759
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:15.079
whole guy with it. It's and
they keep bringing it off. That's amazing

760
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.119
as a massive monk out and find
us like the best Yeah, as as

761
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:22.119
piratical as this game is, like
that that that's super appropriate. That's that's

762
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.199
good stuff. Yeah, I am
super glad to have played that game,

763
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:27.880
like the way they end it and
then like end the series, you know,

764
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.639
yeah, saying like it was the
last one, Like they do a

765
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.360
really good job with that stuff.
I'm looking forward to that. I think

766
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.679
I have a a when it comes
to story. I think I have a

767
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.599
high tolerance, yeah, for for
games going crazy places, right. Uh.

768
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.960
I didn't mind the Blue Guys for
example. Yeah, not saying it

769
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.639
was the best part, but whatever. Yeah. But I just I think,

770
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.840
like, just like The Last of
Us, like this game ends in

771
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.840
the context of characters and how they
end up and like, you know what

772
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:58.559
their development is like Yeah, right
from a character standpoint, they end both

773
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.679
of those games extremely that's what they
do the best. Yeah, absolutely,

774
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:07.400
Uh. Also done playing in Charted
games. Yeah, I saw that they're

775
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:12.480
making single player dealc for that thing, and I'm like that story or what?

776
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:14.480
Yeah, that's I figured it has
to be something in the vein of

777
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:15.360
Left Behind, because yeah, I
don't know what. I have no idea

778
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:17.599
what else they would do. They
killed it with left Behind, so yeah,

779
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.199
that's true. I mean, nothing
was amazing and unexpected. I wonder

780
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.320
if it's like some you know,
Sam backstory thing, like oh it was

781
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:28.119
this crazy Sam thing from ten years
ago. Yeah. I just I find

782
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.599
like, like, generally, with
a well written character, I don't need

783
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:31.320
to see a bunch of prequel stuff. You know. It's like, if

784
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.119
you do your job well, and
you write the character and characterize them and

785
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.400
I get who they are, and
I don't like, I don't need to

786
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.559
see what made Sam who he is
because I feel like, what if what

787
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:44.679
if you could see dark Vader as
a little kid? He built three?

788
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.159
Did you know that way? That
explains everything? Yeah? I know,

789
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:52.280
that does explain a lot. And
he got real sad. Yeah, he

790
00:44:52.320 --> 00:45:00.800
was mad animals due, it's not
it's not U and you've been playing anything

791
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:02.599
else just those two. Apart from
those two, I guess the Overwatch beta

792
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.760
wrapped up last week? Yeah?
Or is it should be known Overwatch because

793
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:09.559
that is a one to one for
what the final release of that game is

794
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:13.280
as far as I know. Oh
really? Oh yeah, that's it.

795
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.440
That's all the maps, that's all
the heroes, that's all the game modes,

796
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:17.199
that's the whole ship. Okay,
that's fine. I liked that game

797
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:21.119
a lot. Yeah. Watch is
a fantastic game. Yeah, so how

798
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:22.480
you feeling about it? Because you
didn't I didn't have a chance to play

799
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.639
this last beta, Okay. I
was trying to power through Uncharted at that

800
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:30.440
time. Yea, I like it. It's it's really good. I mean,

801
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.519
it's that thing's well put together for
sure, so many layers to it,

802
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.280
Like I feel like exploring all the
other characters that Like, today they

803
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:44.039
released the Genji and Hanzo animated short, which looks amazing and like, now

804
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:45.480
I want to play both of them, Like I hardly ever play Hanso or

805
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.800
Genji is it isn't like hand animated. Have you seen any of these incredible

806
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:52.159
just it made me immediately think of
the t F two shorts that they've done

807
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.079
in that in that style, yeah, very similar, like sort of Pixar

808
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.719
esque video game, like all of
the characters within the levels that are in

809
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.800
the video game. But they're really
good, Like I'm it's just their way

810
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.119
up, like trying to flesh out
this universe, which you know it was

811
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.119
basically untouched via the games themselves.
But it's cool. Yeah, there's like

812
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:14.360
a whole mmo there that was going
to explain every these people are and stuff.

813
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:15.239
But I was just gonna say that, like, yeah, keeping with

814
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.559
the theme of this being a new
better TF two. Yeah, so they

815
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.440
did new better shorts to go along. It's it's been interesting seeing the sort

816
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.519
of reaction to this, considering how
much beta there was for the past six

817
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.400
months to see everyone get their hands
on it. During the public beta,

818
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:34.840
was was really something else. They
put out numbers they hit almost ten million

819
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.599
players. Bet what. Yeah,
it's nuts. Whoa, it's crazy.

820
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:42.639
Granted it was free anybody to jump
in, but yeah, you know it's

821
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.639
that you got us feel for Battle
Born a little bit in terms of like

822
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:50.599
last time as well, like that's
that's that's a rough one. Dan.

823
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.800
Dan gives no quarter. Really not
not a good video game. It's no,

824
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:58.480
it's no Overwatch anyway. I mean
they're different beasts, pretty different games.

825
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.039
But it does feel like that is
now the first person that is going

826
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.719
to be like it's obvious now,
I guess when when you look at it,

827
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:06.440
it like that's going to be the
Heartstone, that's going to be the

828
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.920
World Warcraft, that's going to be
the next big first person. I'm not

829
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:12.280
sure about the sport angle on it
to people, barely honest, but in

830
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.559
terms of like just playable, like
the ability it'll be that that Team Fortress

831
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.480
big game for like the next two
or three years. It's one of those

832
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.679
great games that you can just turn
on, hop in, yep, hop

833
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.000
out, And I think Heartstone is
another one of those things so just play

834
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.559
one match and then I mean it
turns into seventeen. I don't know.

835
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.800
We talk about this little bit too, Like, I it's great. This

836
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.599
is my like kind of just knee
jerk sort of impression of this game.

837
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.000
But it seems like there are enough
characters and enough like abilities that could synergize

838
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:44.159
well together. They're like in an
esports context, like you know, building

839
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:46.119
an optimal team, like having heroes
that work well off of each other,

840
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:50.480
like could be kind of a big
thing. Yeah, I guess the one

841
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:57.000
thing I worry about is that like
esport level skill usually imply usually like they

842
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.239
create like a widow Maker at an
esport level with the same character could be

843
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:04.360
op in a way that like on
a public server, they might not necessarily

844
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.280
like some of the stuff you can
do with her with like grappling into the

845
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:09.760
air and firing from there. Like
the high level play has gotten so good

846
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.719
at that, you know, if
you're good enough to do that, right,

847
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:15.519
Yeah, maybe we're able to get
that kind of play deserves to be

848
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:17.880
highlighted. Yeah, I guess I'm
just not a fan. I'm not a

849
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.920
big esport watcher anyway, even in
CS, which is which is a series.

850
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.079
I love playing st Yeah, I
just I've never gotten into shooters specifically

851
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:28.440
as a resporting Like we've talked about
that before. Like it's just something about

852
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.199
that perspective makes it hard to get
a good sense of like what the overall

853
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.639
flow in the matches and kind of
see things from the bird's eye view that

854
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:38.000
a moba affordsh Yeah, excited I
forgot to come out, yeah real soon,

855
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:40.280
like yeah, two weeks I think
we were talking about on on upf

856
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:45.159
Like what does Blizzard do after this? I mean like obviously it'll take all

857
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.679
the genres or done sports games,
Like it'll take a while. You know,

858
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.039
it'll take a while to get this
game settled. And obviously like they

859
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:52.440
support the shit out of their games
for a very long period of time.

860
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.079
But like that's not gonna take the
whole company. You know what if they

861
00:48:55.119 --> 00:49:00.239
took over Watch and made an mml
oh Man that seems like that idea hose

862
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:01.920
some legs. Yeah, I mean, maybe they do take another swipe at

863
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:06.320
it, Like, maybe they do
take another swipe us. Like all they've

864
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:08.559
been doing is looking at like growth
areas and then taking advantage of them,

865
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:12.519
right, Like the strategy stuff was
kind of on the back of a bunch

866
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.159
of strategy games. Going back again
when StarCraft hit, I think maybe Dablo

867
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:19.199
is probably just on its own,
Like heart Zone was very much like looking

868
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.920
at a genre, it was ever
expanding, Like it's kind of what Blizzard

869
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.280
does, right, Like they look
at a thing and say we could do

870
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:27.320
that better, and then they come
in and do it better. Yeah.

871
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:30.440
So I don't really know what's Yeah, what's the next natural fit? But

872
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.000
you would never have said that first
person shooters were a natural fit totally apart.

873
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.880
Yeah, okay, all right,
yep, blackthorn Wheel, Yep,

874
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:42.000
yep, point that shotgun right behind
your head. We allow any rock and

875
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.400
roll racing while you're at it,
yes, please? Yeah, an actual

876
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.840
one? Yeah? Do you ever
played the Russian one that was? Yes?

877
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.599
I think we. I think Jeff
played that on the site one time.

878
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.559
Yeah, so I think we look
at that thing, right, was

879
00:49:54.599 --> 00:50:00.400
it a quickly before they yanked it
off Steam because were like Slen, Yeah,

880
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.159
yeah, that thing's ridiculous. Uh
Dan, Yeah, you've been playing

881
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.760
anything that A lot of PACARSS three
D in class Royale as usual. But

882
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:12.559
I also just bought until Dawn.
Yes, I've never I've never played before.

883
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.639
A lot of people like it a
lot. It's a really fun one

884
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:16.480
to play with a significant other.
And Amazon had it for like half off,

885
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.840
so yeah, one ahead and bought
it, and uh, starting that

886
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.280
tonight. So I'll give some impressions
next week. Probably a big horror game,

887
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.960
are you Space Piece Terriff? Right
of course? Of course, right.

888
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.320
I'm not a big horror movie guy. Horror games. I'm up for

889
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.039
anything, really, But I think
just recently, you know, Bianc and

890
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.880
I played through Resident Evil the remake, and we love that so much and

891
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:39.679
like we want to do something like
that again. So I've heard that Until

892
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:43.440
Dawn is another good one of those, and you know, past the controller

893
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.960
back and forth for you know,
each character when they die or whatever.

894
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:49.519
So yeah, I have no idea
what to expect going in. I heard

895
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.840
it's got Heavy Rain style action sequences. I like heavy Rain a lot.

896
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:57.639
I like things where choices matter,
and I've heard that it is certainly the

897
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:00.079
case of this, So yeah,
I've got than in like heavy Rain.

898
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.079
Yeah, like the decision, the
decision feel like they matter a lot more

899
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.599
in this than they do. Cool, Okay, like Heavy Rain, it

900
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:07.880
felt like you're just kind of taking
a box and then the story moves on

901
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:12.480
anyway and maybe something will change later, whereas like this game literally put down

902
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.039
the controller and heavy Rain and got
the same outcut right right stuff. But

903
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:20.079
like the what can happen in Until
Dawn branches dramatically, like in terms of

904
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.360
who lives and dies and what scenarios
you see play out after cool and stuff.

905
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.719
It's it's yeah, yeah, I've
got high hopes, so I'll start

906
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:29.960
that tonight. That's super good.
I'm totally downloading Pocket Card Jockey for the

907
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:31.639
plane, are you? Oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, wait,

908
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:37.400
that's the that's somebody somebody wrote in
I don't know if this is true because

909
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.440
I tried to google it and couldn't
find anything. But somebody said there is

910
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:43.440
a phone version of that in Japan, really, because we were talking about

911
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.760
that released. Yeah, I don't
know if that'll actually come out here and

912
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:51.400
I'll see that totally working on phones, but what's it on? Yeah,

913
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:53.639
it's weird. I would like a
phone version, Yeah, I would really

914
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:59.159
like one. It's a weird game. Horses and Saltaire. Okay, there

915
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.639
at last, Bucket Card Jackey,
you're playing that also? Yeah? Yeah,

916
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.679
yeah, that's pretty good. That's
what fell in. Yeah, I

917
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.320
did, but I got rid of
Clash Royale. I think I did.

918
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:14.239
Yes, I'm still clean. Man, you aggressively uninstalled that game. Still

919
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:15.599
clean. Come on up to Arena
six. It's fun up here. I

920
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:22.440
also deleted that game over the weekend
and then made it about twelve hours and

921
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.039
then reinstalled. Good man, good
man. I didn't want to be the

922
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:30.400
last man standing here. All right, it's bad. I've got a pretty

923
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.400
good deck going right. Yeah,
are you running? I got the Hog

924
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:38.000
got I got a Giant, I
got Minion, Horde, Freeze. I'm

925
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:43.119
not doing Freeze. I got Fireball
and Arrows, a lot of you know,

926
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.920
basic cards. I don't have any
legendaries or anything. So good Yeah,

927
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:50.159
doing? All right. They're finally
nursing Freeze, are they tomorrow?

928
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.679
I think this week? Yeah.
The duration, yeah, it's gonna be

929
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:55.880
shorter durations. Okay, fuck that
card. You should probably install it.

930
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.000
Yeah, you're right, you're right. It's a bad game for assholes.

931
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:05.880
Somebody somebody tweeted somebody tweeted to me
about that game, and I'm paraphrasing here,

932
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:07.320
but they said something to the effect
if I have never played a game

933
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:12.599
that made me want to do violence
to other people. It's the fucking emote,

934
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:15.519
it is. The emotes are the
worst thing, pretty bad and just

935
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.800
like you know, just the normal
fucking pay to win bullshit. Like I

936
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.119
don't think I ever really had much
fun playing Yeah, yeah, yeah,

937
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.440
totally. My My ratio of playing
it to having fun with it is abysmal

938
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.599
and it's really bad. Like I
hate almost every minute I spend with it.

939
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.000
It was super addicting and it's like, Okay, I'm getting an influx.

940
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.519
That's kind of cool, but man, this is overwhelming because all these

941
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.840
people have, you know, some
much higher levels shit than me. But

942
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:38.960
it always keeps you right at that
level of toward, Like you never feel

943
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:42.840
powerful. You never feel like,
oh I just upgraded my Mini and Hord

944
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:44.719
to the level nine. Now when
I fuck everyone up, it's like no.

945
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:46.960
Then it just gives you harder people
and you get beat by assholes all

946
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:50.239
the time, over and over and
it's the worst game. They laugh at

947
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.719
you the whole way. Yeah,
fuck that game, how much? It's

948
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:54.199
great? Now we're talking, do
you know what, do you know what

949
00:53:54.239 --> 00:54:01.480
your dollar count is at? I'm
probably I don't think i'll be spending much

950
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:05.480
more. I was gonna you don't
think I feel like that's the upper bound

951
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:07.679
of good taste with this game.
If you're gonna get much past that,

952
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:09.760
you're like, I think I'm done. I still have like forty five thousand

953
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.199
gold last me for a while,
yea, and like thirteen hundred gems,

954
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:16.639
so I should be all right.
Wow, it turns out it wasn't violent

955
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:21.239
video games after all that made our
children. Yes, it was. It

956
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:22.880
was it was people paying money to
be better at a game than you and

957
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:30.159
then laughing at yep, oh my
god, fucking spamming the crying King of

958
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:36.400
mote as fast as possible as they
beat you. Oh it's bad, It's

959
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:39.760
really bad. Yeah, bucket card
h jockey. Yeah, that's that's fun.

960
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:45.599
I'm getting what was it? Eight
dollars as bad as Dan made it

961
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:49.639
sound. No, okay, what
all? No, it's not Look at

962
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:52.079
our quick look and look how what
ship is in there? I know you

963
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.679
oversawd that, you but you,
but you got to watch me explain that.

964
00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.800
I had to just go through the
text. I was not really watching

965
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.719
your I tune that out, like, but no, you admitted into your

966
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:07.320
but the gameplay and stuff you got
to watch the gameplay, which when you

967
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.199
just start from scratch and it's trying
to explain all this Gidey up meter and

968
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.639
unity power and all that stuff.
It's throwing it out at you really fast

969
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:15.559
and without having a person explained to
you, like Okay, here's what this

970
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:20.920
does and that does. I also
maybe I'm just stupid because it was really

971
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.639
confusing for a really long time.
But once you figure it out, it's

972
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:27.239
it makes sense. It's cool.
Yeah, I didn't think it was that

973
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:30.760
bad. It's like, okay,
you're you're simming like a horse race,

974
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.159
right, but mainly you're just playing
Solitaire for the most part as fast as

975
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.480
possible. It's and the unity and
power and the Guide up meter and the

976
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:39.599
mood and the comfort zone forecast and
all that stuff that like, that's the

977
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:43.480
stuff that I was like, wait, if this was just Solitaire or like

978
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:45.519
one or two systems, I would
give a comfort zone forecast like it points

979
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:49.119
forward or back. So it's like, okay, I want to beat forward

980
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:52.119
or back, so I'll draw in
that direction. But what that means as

981
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.760
far as like okay, is a
good thing and we want to be Yeah,

982
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:59.760
because you get more unity power in
it right right, unity between.

983
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:04.000
But then you get more unity power
if you rub the Gidea up meter when

984
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.199
the horse is in a good mood. Naturally, where do you rub the

985
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.440
horse and the Gidea up meter in
the button? Where's that? It's in

986
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:15.239
the top right of the bottom screen, right next to rub it. You

987
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:22.119
should all be ashamed of this conversation. You Pokemon aspects. You can create

988
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:27.559
these, Yeah, yeah, because
there's a growth mode. There's a growth

989
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.960
mode and a mature mode. And
growth mode is when a horse is like

990
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.079
zero to two or three or four
years old or whatever, and that's when

991
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.280
you're building up their stats and everything
during while they're growing horses juice and then

992
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.960
yeah, and then you bring them
into mature mode when they're not building up

993
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:44.760
their stats anymore. But you can
try to like have them win a bunch

994
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:46.960
of awards and stuff before you retire
them. And then you can breed your

995
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:51.559
horses like your best horses. You
can try to get them to do stuff

996
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:53.519
and then to have a baby horse
come out that we'll have good stats and

997
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:58.559
bread and characteristics from their parents,
like oh, if it's a tight right

998
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.079
turn and I'm on the inside of
the last whatever, I get more giddey

999
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:09.960
app unity or whatever. So giddey
app unity makes the games it wasn't made

1000
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:14.599
though, Yeah it's true. Yeah, actually yeah you put it that way.

1001
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.800
Is there is there a ship to
glue button or glue faggery button?

1002
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.039
No? No, But do you
think you can retire to tire? Okay,

1003
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.199
you retired? Yes, go to
the farm, send them off to

1004
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:27.840
the pasture. Yeah, sure,
it would surprise me. The game starts

1005
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:31.880
with your your character getting trampled to
death, right yeah, yeah. What

1006
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:35.559
does the guy say, something like
bad news, you're dead or something.

1007
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:37.760
Yeah, like you wake up in
the limbo basically, and it's like,

1008
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.079
oh, yeah, you died.
Okay, didn't expect that from the Solitaire

1009
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:44.679
game. Pretty wild. I like, yeah, it's cool. I'm gonna

1010
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:46.440
have to check that at some point, but yeah, not a lot of

1011
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:49.800
time, baby and stuff. Kind
of want to plan a charted kind of

1012
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.920
don't like. I've kind of played
that game an awful lot, yeah,

1013
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.400
over the years, and it's it's
a weird one because yeah, I like

1014
00:57:55.519 --> 00:58:00.360
to watch people play those games,
not necessarily play them as much. I

1015
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:07.880
watched two because I edited the video
review and just recorded all the cinematics.

1016
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:13.920
I do that from the main menu, had no interest in and charted before

1017
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:16.480
that. But just watching the cinematics
for that video review and then editing it,

1018
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:20.480
I became an under fan. But
you never actually played two. You

1019
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:23.400
never actually played two. That's good
stuff. Yeah he was a big deal.

1020
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:29.280
Yeah, four is really good.
I don't know that it's a big

1021
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:31.719
deal in the same way, like
just so much has changed since then,

1022
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:35.039
so many other games have done similar
things. One, three, three for

1023
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:36.480
me is like, you know,
it's a big, like you know,

1024
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.599
action blockbuster, like a popcorn flick, and it never really drew me in

1025
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:43.199
in that respect. And it sounds
like four is taking a lot of cues

1026
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.320
from like Last of Us, and
you know there's a deeper character study,

1027
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:52.079
more in a serious narrative. Does
that sound yeah right, yeah, interesting

1028
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.639
narrative. It's not just serious and
nothing, you know, it's it's propulsive

1029
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.639
like it really it's like a paid
shurner. You know, it's exciting and

1030
00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:00.480
you really want to know what's gonna
happ That's that's that's what I need.

1031
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.320
That's what I'm looking for. It
thinking that that's serious and you were going

1032
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:08.639
to climb and climb and climb to
get there, so shit to shit like

1033
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:12.599
fall out from under my feet whenever, not once, not once. Yeah,

1034
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:15.800
they actually really drilled it back on
that one. Do I drive vehicles

1035
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.559
and stuff? And is that really
fun to do? Yeah? Okay,

1036
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:24.880
why you don't think so? But
I really I've never liked the vehicle part.

1037
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:30.239
Just know this. When there are
rock slides that you can slide down,

1038
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:34.639
you can also slide across. Oh
you will have to do that.

1039
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.039
It does not make any sense.
Yeah, you won't think that you'll be

1040
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.239
able to do it, but you
can do it. You can even you

1041
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:43.119
can do it straight. Drake could
do a lot of things that normal people

1042
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.719
can't. Yeah, like ignore gravity. I'm writing down when he's got real

1043
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:50.960
confidence in his hook rope ability.
Yeah, extremely strong hands too, like

1044
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.159
forty feet and just grab a rickety
boarding fingertips of steel. Me. It

1045
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:55.920
does make me want to like get
good at rock climbing. Yeah, you'll

1046
00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:00.239
be just like Nathan Drake. Ye, the world's the world's greatest solocal timer

1047
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:05.239
record for sure. Absolutely, him
and Tom Cruise and Mission I possible to

1048
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:09.360
All right, that's the that's the
games we've been playing. I'm gonna go

1049
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:13.599
sneak in five minutes of doom while
will you take a quick break and we

1050
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:47.320
will be right back. How the
hell did I forget to talk about the

1051
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:52.960
most important topic of the weekend?
Clee he may m boo. Yep,

1052
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.440
that's the one I play. That's
not what I that's an animous fact.

1053
01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:00.679
That was not what I was.
It's coming out on go on Thursday or

1054
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:04.079
something. Anime fighters, dude,
it's really good. It's like a non

1055
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:08.119
traditional anime fighter. Yeah. Yeah, who's in it? Give me one

1056
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:13.960
name I will recognize. Oh,
I can't remember. I wish that's an

1057
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:16.480
anime lady dude. She played in
San Francisco not so long ago. She

1058
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:20.519
didn't. She's not a real person. Is she flew in all the way

1059
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.440
Japan? That's not true. On
a concert. There is a fantastic post

1060
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:28.920
on the Giant Bomb forums about a
guy who went to ask concert in Texas.

1061
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:32.440
I believe didn't she play the war
Field? Here? Yes, played

1062
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:36.199
the war Field? The war Field. I want one of the multi color

1063
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:43.119
like uh tidy posters from like the
seventies. Was Gucci was playing with her?

1064
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:46.719
They're really good live. So I
learned from this post that the music

1065
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:52.599
is all live. It's only Miku
and her vocal like friends. That's not

1066
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:54.400
like what they did with the guerrillas, where they would have the like cartoon

1067
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:58.800
things, but there was actually like
an or whatever was back there saying,

1068
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:01.280
except there's no one singing. Right, it's robots. It's just like Matt

1069
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:05.639
Cross plus. Are you saying a
robot camp sing? No? Perhaps what

1070
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:09.239
robot wants to express itself creatively?
Can drive cars? Yeah, robot race?

1071
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:13.519
Wrong podcaster? No, sorry,
the topic I had in mind.

1072
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:16.079
Twinkle and Drew's eye. Oh I
know, I think he knows where this

1073
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:21.119
a tear coming from. We need
we need our annual Eurovision report. Oh,

1074
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:23.360
I believe I forgot to ask.
I wish I could give you a

1075
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:29.360
full, a fuller report, but
I only saw about an hour. Yeah,

1076
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:31.280
man, how what? How?
What could be more pressing? I

1077
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:35.519
had had birthdays to attend. Okay, I guess I guess that counts.

1078
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:37.800
Yeah, why didn't you wanted to
treat yourself on your birthday and hang out

1079
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:43.159
and watch your a vision? Yeah? But yeah, yeah, scheduled things

1080
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.159
before I knew this. Yeah,
that's a shame. Anybody catch more.

1081
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:49.000
I didn't watch any of them any
so I can't, like, you know,

1082
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.119
our internet was out like a Friday
night and then most of Saturday morning,

1083
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:54.719
and I'm so sorry. It was
terrible because everybody was tweeting about your

1084
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:58.519
vision and I'm like, I want
to watch. But it finally came on

1085
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:01.320
as the last act was wrapping up. But I got to see the highlights

1086
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:05.960
And did you watch the voting round? I watched the voting round? How

1087
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.719
did that? I heard it worked
differently, I think so I watched it

1088
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:10.880
last year, I think for the
first time. Yeah, the same,

1089
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:15.440
like straight up like American Idol style. Okay, I mean that that's my

1090
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:22.119
reference because I'm a big American Idol
American Janat justin timber Lake as well.

1091
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.239
That was that was great. Wait
did he play? I think he did

1092
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:30.400
play. I didn't watch it.
He was actually there. They like Israel

1093
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:36.719
words of encouragement during the voting round
to like all the participants. It's like,

1094
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:39.159
okay, the first year that it
aired in the United States, technically,

1095
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:43.800
oh did it? Yea, I
will go TV. I watched the

1096
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:49.719
Swedish stream because I watched the Norwegian
one. But yeah, like JT came

1097
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:53.639
out with like fucking headphones that had
JT on the Great Okay, watching a

1098
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:58.480
line. No, he's uh.
I think he's touring Europe to promote his

1099
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:02.840
new movie Troll. Yeah, I
think so. I think that's the reason

1100
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:06.559
why they brought him there. Okay, anyway, but yeah, the voting

1101
01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:09.519
stuff was just like, you know, they play a clip and it's like,

1102
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:14.119
okay, text this number for Norway. I don't know, and then

1103
01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:16.800
I'll the scame in anyving countries,
but for Norway I probably probably. I

1104
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:21.119
saw one screen grab of a guy
who looked straight out of Castlevania, and

1105
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:26.480
I was like, yep, but
looking dude, god weirdal with the red

1106
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:29.079
tunick and the long hair. He
looked like it looked like a guy from

1107
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.599
Lords of Shadow. You get at
least one Castlevania character per your revision,

1108
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:34.760
and I've got to watch that thing
next year. Apparently there was a in

1109
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:38.719
the semi finals naked man with a
wolf. I saw, Yes, I

1110
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:40.960
saw that. I saw fred grab
of that too. I was intrigued.

1111
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:44.079
I saw the cost player from Germany. She's like, ah, yes,

1112
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:49.159
some of the costumes they're like really
like extravagant, not to mention the production

1113
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:53.159
value. My god, like it's
really impressive. Yeah, it's fun to

1114
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:57.360
watch you guys U. There's an
animated gift going around of a crash zoom

1115
01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.760
that happened during Oh is there one
of the performances of that like puts that

1116
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.840
old Sony press conference to shame.
Man, it's crazy. You should find

1117
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:08.840
that Like that one's really impressive.
That's the lower third day US as well.

1118
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:11.920
Looked like the text from Dark Souls. So every time they like how

1119
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:13.679
the new presson come up, it
was like, oh, it's a new

1120
01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:18.000
boss because they just had crazy d
and others. Yeah, well I got

1121
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.639
I gotta watch that thing next year. Yeah, man, we said that

1122
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:25.039
last year. I know every year
and then there's something going on every like

1123
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:28.719
we get a lot of requests to
live stream, live stream it and and

1124
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:32.039
uh yeah, which you can't.
We can't do that. We can't rebroadcast

1125
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:35.519
somebody stuff. We could do like
a screening room like we used to do

1126
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:39.760
with movies where we want to sync
it up. It's like you can overlay

1127
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:43.400
this yourself or whatever. Right,
it also gets like all those different streams

1128
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:45.760
are like, you know, there's
weird delayed between all of them. Yeah,

1129
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:47.639
that's the problem. But yeah,
like we can only do that with

1130
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:50.880
video game press conferences, because they
were already promotional in nature, and it's

1131
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:54.039
not like, you know, yeah, generally, man, I just want

1132
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:56.599
to watch your revision. Yeah I
don't want, I don't know, a

1133
01:05:56.599 --> 01:06:00.159
massive dinner. But this as somebody
who grew up watching this stuff, this

1134
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:05.079
has like totally jumped the shark.
Like there used to be a sincere heart

1135
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:10.559
beat which ran through this, which
made it even more awful in that,

1136
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:14.000
like you would watch the Eurovision and
you were laughing at everyone else, but

1137
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:15.920
you were proud of your own country
and you were like you were like,

1138
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.119
they're all stupid, weird Europeans doing
their weird European thing, but our one,

1139
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:23.519
our one's are like a real ballad
and we're gonna win. Whereas like

1140
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:26.320
like and everyone had that where like
they hit, there was like a pride

1141
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:30.000
in their own in their own act, and slowly but surely every country decided,

1142
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:33.320
oh this is kind of terrible,
and like started promoting silly acts.

1143
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:35.920
So is it just who can out
weird? Who know exactly? Now it's

1144
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:39.639
just this ridiculous. Like when Lordy
won, it was like okay, we've

1145
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.880
we've we've you know, crossed the
rubicon now this is just it was like

1146
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:45.360
the Guara looking dudes from Yes,
they were a real Baton or Norwegian.

1147
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.239
Yeah, there were popular metal bands
in Europe and probably metal circles over here.

1148
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:51.719
So when they won, it was
like, that's crazy. And at

1149
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:56.239
one stage we put in a like
a like a hand puppet of a turkey.

1150
01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.639
It was our entrance one year,
but like that was at hand puffet

1151
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:03.760
Dustin. Now Dustin is not a
very like double person. Yeah, he

1152
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:06.679
was used to host children's television but
like Arlen one of for a couple of

1153
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:09.920
years in the nineties, and like
it was the genuine it was like winning

1154
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:14.920
the World Cup. It was like
a genuinely like prideful national moment. And

1155
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:17.760
now it's just a circus freaks.
Is it just too self aware? Now?

1156
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:25.320
Is totally that's too bad? Yeah. The introduction a guy made whoever

1157
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:30.199
was on stage m seeing made a
joke about after this, now I can

1158
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:34.719
eat carbs again, and then immediately
started talking about war. Yeah. Well,

1159
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:39.239
I mean the song that won was
a Ukrainian song should be giving out

1160
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:41.320
to Russia, right, Oh was
that that I saw? I read an

1161
01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:45.039
article about that before the event that
like like a lot of like the Russian

1162
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:47.000
judges had already vowed to vote against
her basically because it was like it was

1163
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:49.880
very explicitly calling out, Yeah,
it's something that happened. I believe in

1164
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:56.119
the forties the song is called yeah
sort of thing that one won. That's

1165
01:07:56.159 --> 01:08:00.800
okay. I think it was last
year where two years ago when Russia it

1166
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:04.559
was right after Russia like invaded the
Ukraine and then the Russian contestant got massive

1167
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:09.159
booze. Yes, but they I
think they tried to hide it somehow.

1168
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:13.280
I don't know. Chickens coming home
to RUSI your origion is still weird enough

1169
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:15.319
to me. Yeah, uh that
I that. I still love it.

1170
01:08:15.359 --> 01:08:18.479
I'm just better because we're not winning
anyway. Yeah, your time will come

1171
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:21.800
back around. Missed the House Yon
days of rock and roll kids and apparently

1172
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:26.479
the river that the British commentary is
is fabulous. But we have no way

1173
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:29.359
of watching that over here. So
sorry to everyone on Twitter who said you

1174
01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.000
should watch that. That's a shame
you can't. Kay Walks next year for

1175
01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:36.159
sure your vision all right? He
wants to hear about some news I do.

1176
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:45.319
Let's do with the news I got, I got news, Okay,

1177
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:49.479
Dammy knows. Yeah, every week, although I won't listen this week,

1178
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:57.680
maybe I will maybe and hear how
lovely you sounded, uh River last week,

1179
01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:00.640
like no tail, the ships a
long time. Yeah, our lives

1180
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:03.720
are just trickling away before our fight. I guess the breaking news, yes,

1181
01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:06.960
yes, at the very end of
the last week's show, we barely

1182
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:12.079
the bomb cast catches the breaking news
before they stopped podcasting. That one.

1183
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:15.560
Maybe not so much. It's it's
a crapshoot, but yeah, we just

1184
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:21.680
barely caught the full on cancelation of
Disney Infinity like moments before ending the show

1185
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:26.319
last week, so we kind of
basically just knew it was being canceled and

1186
01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:29.439
that was it. That was all
we had heard. So yeah, there

1187
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.199
was there was an earnings uh call. I mean this, I don't even

1188
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.840
know if we'd addressed that last week. I think that was part of the

1189
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:39.000
initial kind of Twitter information that was
going around. But Disney's earnings like they

1190
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:42.880
missed their earnings target. They were
now in overall and and Bob Iger kind

1191
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:45.960
of got on the phone and not
happy talked about that stuff. But that

1192
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.479
was like overall, not necessarily for
the Yeah, that's the whole company.

1193
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:49.600
That's the whole company. But you
know, I guess as a result of

1194
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:53.359
that, they're looking to slash and
burn and that was like, you know,

1195
01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:57.279
like such an aside project for them. Yeah wow, Well I think

1196
01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:00.640
I think it's just you know,
it was like modestly prof able and not

1197
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:03.079
like you know, the growth line
that was just going straight up. So

1198
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:05.560
that was not enough for them to
to keep pumping money into it. But

1199
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:09.680
like a bunch of information has come
out about like oh, you know,

1200
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:12.640
they they ordered way too many toys
that ended up not selling. It was

1201
01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:15.600
like they made bad bets on how
much manufacturing to do. Was it like

1202
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.960
a you draw tablet things that was
similar to the warehouse filled with things?

1203
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:26.560
So one one Patrick Klevic at Kataku
has written Yes of YouTube dot com that's

1204
01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.439
written, Uh, he wrote a
pretty in depth story as he has want

1205
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:32.359
to do about some of this stuff, and like, uh he talks about

1206
01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:34.880
like I just to head over to
kotaography you want to read all the nitty

1207
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:40.319
gritty details. But he talks about
some crazy stuff with like not exactly in

1208
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.960
fighting, but some kind of friction
between different departments of Disney something like that.

1209
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:46.279
Like that is a massive project,
Like, not only do you have

1210
01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:50.840
the game and the toys, but
you've got all these brands. Everyone has

1211
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:54.760
to work together so well and this
thing work. The crazy thing is they're

1212
01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:56.800
all part of the same company,
and from the outside looking in, you're

1213
01:10:56.800 --> 01:10:59.199
just like, oh, why wouldn't
that all just be puppydogs and roses?

1214
01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:02.239
You know, like apparently like the
leadership at these different divisions has different ideas

1215
01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:05.720
about how these things should happen.
Frozen people way too yes, yes,

1216
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:13.119
such, yes, very chilly on
this whole thing. You know, there's

1217
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:16.439
some some examples in here of like, you know, kind of minor Marvel

1218
01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:20.680
characters getting shoved in at the insistence
of Marvel, and like toys being manufactured

1219
01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:24.960
for those and nobody wanted those characters, so they didn't sell, so they

1220
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.920
lost him a lot of money on
plastic goods. There for the examples of

1221
01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:30.079
like which ones those were, uh, oh gosh, I'm looking forward in

1222
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:33.520
this. I think they referenced the
guy the blue the blue guy from Guardians

1223
01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:40.159
of the Galaxy. I'm trying to
find his name that movie. I don't

1224
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:42.640
remember a blue guy. What blue
guy? He's he's kind of a side

1225
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:46.479
character, I know, the Doctor
Manhattan. I started, I started watching

1226
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.720
I started watching that movie recently and
didn't finish it. Now I feel like

1227
01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:54.399
a crazy person. The first one
Galaxy. Okay, I think you and

1228
01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:58.119
Me are the only Marvel movies I've
kind of like, I feel I feel

1229
01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:00.760
like everybody in the world is in
love with Guardians Galaxy and just didn't it

1230
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:05.680
fun. Ben Diesel is a tree. He was one of the better parts

1231
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:09.000
of that movie. Actually, I
feel like I feel like that thing is

1232
01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:12.720
a series of like the flattest one
liners on on Earth. It was none

1233
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:15.960
of the jokes that thing for me
at all. Trader was really that's uh.

1234
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:19.239
Fattista is good? Yeah? Who
was who was he? Dave Batista?

1235
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:26.640
I mean wrestler man or whatever they
heard in tattoos, like the convicts

1236
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:29.520
guy. Yeah, ok, yeah, what's his name? Shit, it's

1237
01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:32.359
a krock Knack or something. No, God, what the hell is his

1238
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:36.479
name? Drags? Yeah, scracks. Yeah he was all right, I

1239
01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:42.239
was a wrestler. Oh yeah,
I guess that makes sense anyway. You

1240
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:44.640
know, like like they talk about
like you know, you've got you've got

1241
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:47.880
lucasfilm with Star Wars and Marvel with
all their stuff and like Pixar and just

1242
01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:50.960
like the number of different properties in
this thing was crazy, and we all

1243
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.039
have a lot of good stuff going
for them. So they feel like they

1244
01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:57.159
can drag, they can pull punches
or pull their weight around, right,

1245
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:00.920
I think they I think Hulk is
another Uh let's see. Yeah. Yeah,

1246
01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:08.880
one of their sources said, I
wanted, yes, I would buy

1247
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:14.880
that one. Expectations for Hulk were
so huge they produced two million toys.

1248
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:17.479
Unfortunately, as the story went,
they only ended up selling one million units.

1249
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:20.319
So like they just basically ate a
bunch of money on toys that didn't

1250
01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:26.439
move. And uh, he gets
into a lot of detail about what was

1251
01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:30.039
in the pipeline for the stuff,
sorry, and trying to find it.

1252
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:33.199
So I'm sorry. Sorry. In
fairness to the games, it always that

1253
01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:36.760
stuff always looked effortless from the consumers. Yeah, it looked like everyone was

1254
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:41.239
working together to be on this like
interesting project totally. But like the way

1255
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:43.119
the story breaks it down though,
like when you look at some of the

1256
01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:45.439
stuff they could have done and didn't
write, like, it kind of makes

1257
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:48.039
you realize how how much that affected
the product. You know, they had

1258
01:13:48.039 --> 01:13:50.920
already come out and said there wasn't
going to be a new boxed game this

1259
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:54.119
year, like they were going to
kind of take a year off and focus

1260
01:13:54.119 --> 01:13:58.199
on three point zero, which they
had already put out. There were plans

1261
01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:00.560
for a bunch of Rogue one stuff, a Star Wars movie from the end

1262
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:03.399
of this year. We're gonna make
it in There were gardy wetted joint.

1263
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:08.880
Yes. Yes, indeed they were
working on a line of twelve inch figures

1264
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:13.600
that we're gonna light up and stuff. No, not not feeling it so

1265
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:15.800
much on compatible with they get like
twelve Yeah, they would, they would.

1266
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:18.079
I guess they would touch the portal
and do stuff. Imagine a twelve

1267
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:25.880
inch Well, I have Mega Yarnioshi. I have two Mega Yarnioshi's. It's

1268
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:29.520
close to twelve inch. Okay.
One box one that reminds me Beata Breakers

1269
01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:31.239
was this weekend too. I ran
that. Oh how did that go?

1270
01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:36.079
Not as many old guy winers this
last year, but still too many old

1271
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:40.800
guy wainers. They're cracking down.
I counted twenty six before nine am.

1272
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:43.840
Did you yeah? Wait, were
you just like on the route or did

1273
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:45.840
you run it? And I didn't
run it? Okay, I was observing,

1274
01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:48.279
just hanging out, Yeah, looking
for winers. Looking for winters were

1275
01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:53.600
morning drinking. Oh yes, excellent
barbecue, good stuff. You were barbecuing

1276
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:56.199
while people were wieners were walking past. Hang on, wait, what do

1277
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:59.239
you what do you grill at nine
am? Sausages? Okay? Yeah,

1278
01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:01.159
sure, breakfast. I had the
best thing because like that was that's an

1279
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:04.640
early race. It starts at eight
o'clock, so you're done and back home

1280
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:08.680
and it's like eleven o'clock and I
don't have to feel bad at all about

1281
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:12.079
Like I'm gonna get a shiploaded taco
bell and just play Doom the rest of

1282
01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:14.800
it, and I feel great about
like I'm all sore. I did some

1283
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:16.039
ship and I'm just playing Doom and
eating tacos. Yeah, it's a pretty

1284
01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:19.960
good day. Yeah, solid.
I wonder if you could wonder would you

1285
01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:23.479
like to make eggs on a grill, just like throw a skillet in there?

1286
01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:26.279
That's what you could do that?
Yeah, yeah, kind of smoke

1287
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:29.600
them a little bit. Sure,
huh we do that camping breakfast grilling.

1288
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:32.399
Yeah, that sounds all right.
Or take a take a bunch of bloominum

1289
01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:34.840
foil, make a bowl out of
it, and throw a bunch of chopped

1290
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:39.880
potatoes in there. Uh, and
then maybe maybe you could thrust some eggs

1291
01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:43.279
and some cheese in there and throw
that on the grill. Yep, grilling's

1292
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:45.880
pretty cool. Yeah, those figures
are really nice, Like I actually like

1293
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:49.760
collecting them. The games are not
bad either. I like getting into that

1294
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:56.239
toy box stuff whatever. But yeah, yeah, I'm really I'm really bummed.

1295
01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:58.600
Yeah, not only for you know, the game and like, you

1296
01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:00.800
know, the figures that I may
or may not have been looking forward to,

1297
01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:01.920
but that was a that was a
really good team of people as well.

1298
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.960
Yeah, totally, And well you
definitely won't like this next part then.

1299
01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:08.119
So, like I said, it
sounds like Rogue one and the kind

1300
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:10.640
of twelve inch figures were the big
plan for this year, but they were

1301
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:15.319
already working on Infinity four point over
next year, and it sounds like the

1302
01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:17.119
big thing that was going to have
that the series really always needed was a

1303
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:20.319
story mode that would bring all those
properties together, and that was that was

1304
01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:24.640
the hardest thing. Like we actually
did an interview with A with JV and

1305
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:27.119
I kind of asked them, you
know, what's what's it like to work

1306
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:30.640
with all these different ips, and
like everybody you know wants their ips in

1307
01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:32.199
it. But they don't want them
to interact, right, Uh, you

1308
01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:35.079
know they don't want you know,
Ray from Star Wars hanging out with you

1309
01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:39.399
know, Elsa from That's exactly what
the story says that, Like, yeah,

1310
01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:42.800
they were basically forbidden to have like
a main story mode where you could

1311
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.119
just like, especially if you've got
a bunch of figures left over from the

1312
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:46.479
old game and you can't take them
into the main mode of the new game,

1313
01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:49.359
Like that's a like basically you could
only take them into toy box,

1314
01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:54.800
which is not you know what,
if Sorrow was there, would that help?

1315
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:59.279
I don't think that would help anything. I wonder if Nintendo has to

1316
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:01.079
put up with this type shit when
they do like Smash Brothers. It's like,

1317
01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:03.279
oh, well, you can have
solid Snake, but he can't talk

1318
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:12.840
to Yoshi like everyone well known.
Yeah yeah, Smack Brothers is the utopian

1319
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:17.359
melting pot of yeah, dumb character
mashups like that. Likes all equally stupid.

1320
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:21.359
Most of those came from Nintendo proper, right, I mean, I

1321
01:17:21.399 --> 01:17:28.399
mean Final Fantasy Care some CAPCOMs and
there I feel like the powers on the

1322
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:30.920
other side of that relationship, whereas
they're bringing in games into a Nintendo property,

1323
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.880
whereas like Man Star Wars can do
whatever they want. Yeah, yeah,

1324
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:38.399
and Marvel and yeah, these are
huge, huge things. Yeah,

1325
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:45.560
I'm sucking Konami doesn't even make games. Pale in the next one was a

1326
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.720
snake wasn't in the most recent smash. No, he was just Okay,

1327
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:54.800
yeah, that'll that'll never happen again. Yeah, that's kind of a bummer

1328
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:57.239
to read for really people that were
into Infinity. It sounds like they were

1329
01:17:57.239 --> 01:17:59.720
moving in the direction people wanted it
to go in terms of like you know,

1330
01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:01.680
you and old figures for new stuff. Yeah, and just like super

1331
01:18:01.720 --> 01:18:04.560
surprising. And then from a consumer
standpoint, and it seemed like they had

1332
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:06.199
you know, the biggest like mark
a share. You know, it's like

1333
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:11.399
from like Skylanders, you know,
but Skylanders was geared towards a much like

1334
01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:15.319
younger age I think, Yeah,
I go to yeah as well. Yeah,

1335
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:16.439
I'm just wow. Yeah, like
some of that inhere, some of

1336
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:19.079
the quotes in this, Yeah,
it's like, you know, it's it

1337
01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:23.279
wasn't you know, it was making
money. It wasn't making like the kind

1338
01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:26.199
of astronomical profit that Disney wanted.
But it's not like it was an abject

1339
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:28.800
failure, you know, like they
kind of pulled the rug out from under

1340
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:30.560
it. I didn't expect it to
last this long, I guess to someone

1341
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:35.920
who doesn't understand business too much,
like if something is profitable in any margin,

1342
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:39.840
why would I mean, I'm sure
there's a reason for it, I

1343
01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:42.159
just don't know what it is.
Like, why would you say you're not

1344
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:44.560
making enough? Person? It's all
about return on investment, you know.

1345
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:46.359
It's like shareholders look at that and
say, like, well, you're getting

1346
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:48.920
you're getting X out of what you're
putting into this, But what if you

1347
01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:53.319
could you could be getting five x
out of what if you use these resources

1348
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:57.880
to those same resources into something else. So in terms of their video more

1349
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:01.039
and in terms of their video game
business, they've always licensed out their stuff.

1350
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:03.720
So this is basically a way of
like, look if we're spending all

1351
01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.760
this time and resources trying to make
these games in house, and like Infinity

1352
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:10.199
was one of the few things Disney
we're doing in house. They licensed out

1353
01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:15.000
everything from their mobile stuff to to
you know, look at the Lego Lego

1354
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:16.680
Star Wars stuff, the battle Front
all right, completely like battle Front to

1355
01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:20.399
come out and obviously had a mastic
success just before them like actually sold ten

1356
01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:27.119
you know, probably the millions and
fourteen, right, it's crazy number of

1357
01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:30.520
coffees a battle So if you're doing
dash and I mean, they could probably

1358
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:32.399
license the stuff out to Lago or
something like. I mean they have they're

1359
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:35.880
in this Toys to Life space the
Star Wars stuff they don't have, so

1360
01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:40.760
maybe that's a way of getting that
in there. But yeah, you know,

1361
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:44.319
somewhere somebody said, hey, we
can probably just you know, I

1362
01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:45.760
don't know, figure it out some
other way. It's so sad though a

1363
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:48.319
lot of people. It's unfortunately.
Yeah, yeah, conduless to the three

1364
01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:51.119
hundred or so people that they said, we'll lose their jobs, yeah,

1365
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:57.880
over the stuff such as the video
game industry, I guess. Yeah.

1366
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.800
It kind of drove the point home
because there was an EA earning call the

1367
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:02.119
same day or was it the next
day. It was right around the same

1368
01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:06.039
time last week, where yeah,
they mentioned that battle Front had done like

1369
01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:09.760
these enormous numbers, and it's like, you know, that's a low risk

1370
01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:13.600
thing for Disney to do, just
to license their stuff Outlet just make a

1371
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:15.680
bunch of money on something they don't
have to do anything on. Speaking of

1372
01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:21.119
kind yeah, I probably do that. Yes, and I guess Disney's Chinko

1373
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:25.079
Machines pulling out of the three now
makes on more sense as well. Yes,

1374
01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:29.880
yes, absolutely so, Yeah,
that's uh that ya rings call happened.

1375
01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:33.159
Not a whole lot of huge news
out of that. There will be,

1376
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:38.840
it's vague. There's there will be
a new Battlefront of some sort next

1377
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:44.760
year in twenty seventeen with quote bigger
and better worlds. But they didn't come

1378
01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:48.520
out and say Battlefront two. So
maybe it's not a Star Wars Battlefront.

1379
01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:55.439
Oh they can't. Yeah, Lord
of the Rings Battlefront go, No,

1380
01:20:55.840 --> 01:21:00.239
you want to be Treebeard? Actually
I could, I could. Maybe I

1381
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:03.119
could maybe get into the idea of
Battlefront as they catch all term for,

1382
01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:06.760
like we're gonna make a dumb deathmatch
game out of this unlikely property, either

1383
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:12.159
Scooby Doo battle ye, like here's
Harry Potter battle Front or whatever. Two

1384
01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:15.399
Broke Girls Front. I know,
I know a guy they could talk to

1385
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:25.119
you, World War one. That's
two real Star Trek Battlefront beautiful. Yeah,

1386
01:21:25.159 --> 01:21:29.239
So I think I think I saw
elsewhere that I think they're gonna start

1387
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:30.960
drawing from the new movies in this
next Battlefront thing. But I don't know

1388
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:36.359
if that's a full sequel or a
giant expansion or who knows they I don't

1389
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:39.680
know if there's a delay or if
this was already known or what. But

1390
01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:43.359
there there's gonna be no NBA Live
this year. It was coming out early

1391
01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:45.720
next year instead, and they're dropping
the year number from it. It's just

1392
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:48.399
going to be called NBA Live.
How many years have they been trying to

1393
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:54.000
reboot? God like you sucked or
not come out for like the last seven

1394
01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:57.279
years, hasn't it? And there
was like that crazy NBA Elite situation where

1395
01:21:57.319 --> 01:22:00.319
that ever came out. Yeah,
they recalled it like yeah, manufact it

1396
01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:01.800
and then recall it like a demo
went live and it was so fucked up

1397
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.520
or something like just throwing the towel
at some point. You're not good at

1398
01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:11.840
basketball games apparently. Yeah. Well, the NBA Live will be out early

1399
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:14.159
next year. So I hear it. What happens? I hear Steph Cary

1400
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:16.960
broke the game recently as well.
Yeah, starts up sounds like an ongoing

1401
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:23.039
process. I heard him in lebron
or shooting now. Oh yeah, yeah,

1402
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:26.399
who's the best of all time?
Yeah? I guess, Uh,

1403
01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:30.640
let's see looks funny. Yeah,
I mean he jammed from space. You

1404
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:35.560
can't can't get much higher than that. Uh, let's see, no new

1405
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:40.319
need for speed game this year?
Great, says Jeff when I said in

1406
01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:45.840
slack is there anything else from EA
earnings everybody cares about? We have satiated,

1407
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:48.880
that's noteworthy. The need has been
and then uh, and then lastly,

1408
01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:51.960
I don't know if I think this
may have been floating around already,

1409
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.479
but maybe the earnings call kind of
confirmed it or whatever. But the uh,

1410
01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:58.680
the Visceral Star Wars game that Amy
Hinnig is working on is not coming

1411
01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:03.760
out until twenty eighteen acording to this
year, which yeah, like, well

1412
01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:06.760
they did, but that's like that's
like nineteen months away. It's a long

1413
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:12.199
time. She's what we could allow. Huh. Well, I'm assuming that

1414
01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:14.920
game will come out on the first
of January and twenty eighteen. But yes,

1415
01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:18.800
you're right. Isn't it crazy talking
about Uncharted through the lens of like

1416
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:23.439
with all the stuff that happened during
this development and like all the stuff about

1417
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:27.399
Amy Hannig leaving as well, I
mean how they like basically rebooted the game

1418
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:31.199
and totally yeah, and it's it
turns out it's probably the best story.

1419
01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:34.199
And yeah, I mean, you
know, no, no disrespect to her

1420
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:38.199
whatso, no, not at all. Obviously she pretty much made the series

1421
01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:43.279
what it is. But yeah,
super super curious to see that game that

1422
01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:45.039
she's working on. There that's gotta
hit out of the EA stuff. Not

1423
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:49.600
a whole lot of like big big
bangers, but they expect meres edged this

1424
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:53.560
out twenty minute copies. They don't
think they mentioned that one. I don't

1425
01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:56.319
know how that's gonna grow. Yeah, that's that soon, right, Yeah,

1426
01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:59.119
I think we all realized today that
it's like, oh that is out

1427
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:03.359
just stront like Home Front was a
huge like oh god, right, that's

1428
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:10.319
still a game and that's who's publishing
Deep Silver, Deep Silver okay right,

1429
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:13.319
yeah, Austin is playing that now
we didn't we don't have it in here,

1430
01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:16.520
but that is coming out this week. I guess the Beast Cast will

1431
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:21.239
have some impressions that this week.
Let's see. Not a whole lot else

1432
01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:26.119
going on last since last week,
but the two ds is eighty bucks now

1433
01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:30.399
eybody, Wow, that's all right. I'm always surprised when I see one

1434
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:31.960
of those in the wild. Yeah, although it usually is you know,

1435
01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:34.760
kind of the age range that I
think they marketed it towards. You know,

1436
01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:39.800
it's usually like a ten year old
kid old one, yeah, might

1437
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.600
buy on eighty bucks. Yeah yeah, that's I mean, that's you know,

1438
01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:45.920
that's a pretty pretty cheap buy in
for like a huge library of pretty

1439
01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:47.479
good un it's still shaped like a
cheese wedge. Yeah, it's the same

1440
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:51.000
same design. Okay, it's just
like a plane. Yeah, yeah,

1441
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:54.920
it's it's yeah, we like lack
of portability would kind of trip me up

1442
01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:57.520
on that, but I mean I
get it as like if you're a parent

1443
01:24:57.560 --> 01:24:59.800
that doesn't want your kid to have
something with hinges that they can break in

1444
01:24:59.880 --> 01:25:01.079
hand for whatever, it's like,
oh, here's sure, yeah wedge thing.

1445
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:03.960
Yeah, the or they don't want
their eyes to cross, like the

1446
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:08.880
jerk, all right, right,
the jerk. Yeah, Steve Martin,

1447
01:25:09.079 --> 01:25:12.920
here's movie. No, he's not
a classic, he's an American comedy classic.

1448
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:15.079
I'm a rock sane. That's where
my Steve Martin comes in. Now,

1449
01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:20.840
Yeah, had a big nose.
Hilarious. That just robs I mean,

1450
01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:26.960
doesn't it? Isn't it? U? All right? That's all I

1451
01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:29.640
got for news. It's kind of
a slow weak other than the Disney stuff.

1452
01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:33.199
Let's move on to emails. See
Jason moving his hands and the mixer

1453
01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:40.840
in advances some some fucking production right
there. It's reading reading the temperature in

1454
01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:45.760
the room on BombCast at giant bomb
dot com. I have pulled some emails.

1455
01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:49.239
Let's read a few. Uh,
John in Pasadena. If Elon Musk's

1456
01:25:49.279 --> 01:25:54.920
hyper loop between San Francisco and LA
actually happens and there's an affordable thirty minute

1457
01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:57.880
option for you guys to get down
to E three, do you think you'd

1458
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.720
all take it? Yes, or
but some of you still prefer the traditional

1459
01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:03.760
fun and convenience of the drive down. Also, assuming it's not cost prohibitive,

1460
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:08.079
do you think you'd actually end up
going down more frequently to LA for

1461
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:11.399
work or otherwise. I've been reading
up on that thing recently, and I

1462
01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:14.399
get bummed out of how long it's
going to be until it's ready, because

1463
01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:16.000
I want to take that thing everywhere. Yeah, like that thing is super

1464
01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:18.840
It's like a newmatic tube at the
at the bank or whatever. I want

1465
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:23.399
to ride in that exclusively. And
self driving cars, yeah, well,

1466
01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:27.920
self driving cars are happening. That's
that's yeah, that's a foregone conclusion that

1467
01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:30.960
will arrive. I don't know.
I don't know, We'll see a couple

1468
01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:33.800
of years. What self driving cars
like, how it's getting there? Don't

1469
01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:36.920
How long will it be until I
can I guess we can buy them?

1470
01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:39.800
Or is it gonna be like a
service? I mean there are some on

1471
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:43.359
the road right now. Tesla straight
up put out a firmware update for some

1472
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:45.920
of the cars that added self driving
to it. Yeah, well, how

1473
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:47.039
long until Okay, I'm at a
bar and I want to get home and

1474
01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:49.840
I can just get in a cart
instead of an uber you get like,

1475
01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:55.600
yeah, what's the robotic cab operator
from two shows up? The Johnny cab?

1476
01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:57.960
Are we talking about like three five
years? Don't No, I don't

1477
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:00.159
know. I don't know that sounds. I've definitely estimates like five, like

1478
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:02.880
ten years or something. Yeah,
and you could own your own private one

1479
01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:10.399
and it would just type. So
Yeah, it's like babile, isn't isn't

1480
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:13.239
isn't some kind of legislation gonna happen. Have to happen at some point,

1481
01:27:13.359 --> 01:27:15.399
I'm sure a lot. Yes,
Yeah, once those things actually go wide,

1482
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:19.800
it's a wonderful feature. Yeah,
Like they ran some hyperloop test last

1483
01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:23.640
week. It was successful. But
then I looked at it and apparently that

1484
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:26.560
test was only like a tenth of
the speed that the actual thing needs to

1485
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:29.359
go. Yeah, they did that
in Texas, right, Like they built

1486
01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:31.520
like a little like test course,
I think something in Vegas something just to

1487
01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:34.920
prove that like the tech worked or
whatever. Yeah, was it at a

1488
01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:38.760
to Vegas. They said they could
do it in twenty minutes or something etimes

1489
01:27:39.079 --> 01:27:43.760
really because you're going I didn't know
what the top speed was. H Yeah,

1490
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:45.319
like this test they did zero to
sixty and like one you don't hit

1491
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.159
Enny on the rail doing the first
one, and I was going off the

1492
01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:53.159
rails. Is gonna make for some
some YouTube because it's isn't it Maglev?

1493
01:27:53.640 --> 01:27:56.279
I thought it like doesn't actually it's
into contact the rail. I don't know,

1494
01:27:56.800 --> 01:27:58.920
Yeah, it doesn't contact anything.
How it can go so fast?

1495
01:27:58.960 --> 01:28:01.520
Right? Wow? But the proverbial
pay are you gonna be able to like

1496
01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:04.600
sit up in that thing? You're
gonna have to light down flat the concept

1497
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:08.319
look like you're in like one of
those like recliners. It's going back,

1498
01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:10.800
but your legs are kind of bent, like you know those mattresses were can

1499
01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:13.680
press a button and it folds up. It's like the halfway point is what

1500
01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:15.079
it looks like. Okay, so
it's not like a lose you or anything

1501
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:18.720
like that. You don't need to
slining, but your legs are also up,

1502
01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:25.159
but then they're bent down soling.
Okay, sure, uh sounds they

1503
01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:29.279
did that in a James Bond movie. Sent a guy from one place to

1504
01:28:29.319 --> 01:28:32.880
another in in a in a like
an oil an oil line or something.

1505
01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:35.880
I think it was a Dalton one. This guy, I don't know.

1506
01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:39.239
Let me know when you get there, Dan, Okay, Yeah, is

1507
01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:42.239
there a tell Del Taco on board? Oh? I don't think. I

1508
01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:44.800
don't think you want to eat Del
Taco with seven hundred miles an hour.

1509
01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:47.319
I can don't take take my word
for this or on this. I'll be

1510
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:54.560
the Neil Armstrong of that boy,
not jos Bettle Grande everywhere. Oh no,

1511
01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:56.840
del Taco. I don't know what
there is. It's called's one one

1512
01:28:56.840 --> 01:29:00.439
giant leap for dance. Colin.
Yeah, uh to answer John, And

1513
01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:04.079
Pasadena's another question. I tried to
avoid La whenever possible. Oh yes,

1514
01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:09.359
yeah, outside of the three,
it's the worst city. It is actually

1515
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:13.279
the worst city. I think.
I don't mind this, it's interesting.

1516
01:29:13.399 --> 01:29:15.239
So it's okay for about a week
out of the year. I mean the

1517
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:19.720
experience of La we have sucks because
it's like just South figaroa hotel to a

1518
01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:24.479
convention center. Yeah, God,
Venice, I lived there for four years.

1519
01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:29.760
I'm good and your phil Although I
lived in my own bubble. It

1520
01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:32.039
was a bubble within a bubble,
all right, Yeah, college town,

1521
01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:35.159
Oh fair enough. Yeah, it's
just it's getting around more than anything.

1522
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:41.680
Yeah, that does it to me? Just the people try not to generalize

1523
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:45.000
too much about that, but there
is there is an element of that.

1524
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:46.479
Yes, yeah, I mean,
dude, you even San Francisco. Yeah,

1525
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:49.600
oh I know. Yeah, people
here suck too. Maybe it's a

1526
01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:57.520
California problem right now? Was there
once? Uh? Let's see. How

1527
01:29:57.640 --> 01:30:03.960
about Gabe from Toledo, Ohio.
I'm very excited about the upcoming live streams

1528
01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:08.239
of the bomb cast as part of
this. Have you guys considered live call

1529
01:30:08.319 --> 01:30:11.840
ins to the show? What could
possibly go wrong? Yes, we have

1530
01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:15.359
considered that idea, but then we
considered what could go wrong? Dismissed it

1531
01:30:15.399 --> 01:30:17.840
summarily. No, we we've talked
about that stuff, but yeah, I

1532
01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:19.920
don't think it would never be as
simple as just hey, we're gonna have

1533
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:23.680
a phone here and you can call
it like that is a recipe for disaster.

1534
01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:27.079
Yeah, we did probably have to
bring somebody in to monitor them.

1535
01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:30.880
Yeah, we need to screen them
as well, because go wrong a call

1536
01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:33.960
screeners sounds so professional, Yeah,
but required for something like that, Like

1537
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:36.279
we had BEFO we're doing. We
did that back at Whiskey. We had

1538
01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:42.239
it. That wasn't their job.
We just grabbed. I was just say,

1539
01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:45.920
we're gonna have to get Dave's sister
back in here, answer the phone,

1540
01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:48.720
like you know, whoever was people? I think, can you help

1541
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:53.079
us make sure this person isn't a
lunatic. I used to work at a

1542
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:56.359
sports TV station and we had a
live call in show once and it was

1543
01:30:56.399 --> 01:31:00.279
about like just local Kansas City sports
and stuff, and we had a Kansas

1544
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:01.199
City chief on. I can't remember
what his name was. I think he

1545
01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:04.039
was kind of a lower on the
totem pool guy, but he was dating

1546
01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:06.720
one of our anchor ladies. But
that was like kind of a you know,

1547
01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:10.720
low key thing. They didn't really
publicize it. And so it's a

1548
01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:14.600
live call in show and we had
no delay or anything like that, and

1549
01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:15.640
uh, so this guy calls in. He was like, yeah, I

1550
01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:17.960
got a question. No, you
know, I heard a rumor going around

1551
01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:24.560
town that you two were fucking around. And then she they were both on

1552
01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:27.840
the a. Yeah, she was
like interviewing him, not as like hey,

1553
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.439
I'm your girlfriend, but so she
looks like deer in the headlights completely

1554
01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:33.520
and he thought they were talking about
like the Chiefs defense. He's like,

1555
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:35.960
no, I don't think we I
wouldn't put it that way. I think

1556
01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:39.279
we got a good team, we
got some good leadership, we got it.

1557
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:43.319
She's just like a got got got
Oh you were in the room for

1558
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:45.399
this was in the control room.
Man. That was not as bad as

1559
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:49.840
the Jared Allen, the Jared Allen
hot sauce incident. You know Jared Allen.

1560
01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:56.680
So he started this goddamn restaurant in
Kansas City called Club sixty nine because

1561
01:31:56.680 --> 01:31:59.520
his number was sixty nine, and
the commercials and suffer like wind him dying,

1562
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:03.239
I'm sixty nine him And so he's
just a huge dipshit like Jared Allen's

1563
01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:06.840
a giant. Didn't claim to fame. He was. He was on the

1564
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:10.399
Vikings last I remember, but then
before that, he's on the Chiefs.

1565
01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:13.840
What is it? What is it
with Kansas City sports figures being giant asshot?

1566
01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:17.479
I don't know, okay, but
so yeah, I'm in the control

1567
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:20.399
room. This is a live thing, and our anchor who's there kind of

1568
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:25.000
hosting the show with Jared Allen it's
from Club sixty nine or whatever, and

1569
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:27.880
they had like, it's like,
okay, we've got four tickets here we're

1570
01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:30.920
gonna give away for the Chiefs game
coming up this Sunday, And so we're

1571
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:32.399
gonna do a call in trivia thing
and Jared Allen, I don't know if

1572
01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:34.680
he's fucking drunk or what. He's
like, No, we gotta do something

1573
01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:39.600
hilarious, like some jackass thing to
give away these tickets. And the anchors

1574
01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:41.600
like, oh, well, we've
got the trivia ready to go here Jared,

1575
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:44.279
He's like no, let's like,
uh okay, whoever we'll put this

1576
01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:46.800
hot sauce in their eyes gets this
ticket. And some drunk girl runs up

1577
01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:51.079
on live TV and like pours this
hot sauce and rapaul and just splatts it

1578
01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:55.239
in her eyes like and like,
Jared Allen's cracking up, and they had

1579
01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:58.760
to give her the tickets. We
kind of away from the rush to the

1580
01:32:58.760 --> 01:33:03.840
hospital. Why did you should have
a tape delay? Why did you leave

1581
01:33:03.880 --> 01:33:10.800
that job? Man? This episode
plenty of reasons. Oh boy, uh,

1582
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:15.720
Kansas is great. He's been there. It's great. It's just off

1583
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:19.319
the rails twenty four or seven.
Mental you used to have very specific look

1584
01:33:19.319 --> 01:33:28.600
at you saw that the record tour
of it. Y yeah, today,

1585
01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:31.000
answer this guy's question, Jeffill.
Jeff will often talk fondly about the like

1586
01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:35.840
the voicemails from the hot spots way
back in the day, Like you call

1587
01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:38.960
that thing? Oh yeah, I
got on a couple of times. I

1588
01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:41.800
called it in a bunch of times. There was I actually do remember a

1589
01:33:41.880 --> 01:33:44.880
live one at some stage. It
might have been game Spot or I might

1590
01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:49.399
be super early Giant Bomb because Vinnie
was the was the screen screener, and

1591
01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:53.399
because I guess I was a user
for a long time, so you knew

1592
01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:56.119
I wasn't gonna be a total jark
on it. But yeah, I remember

1593
01:33:56.199 --> 01:34:00.680
like like like one thirty in the
morning, probably Ireland time, like quivering

1594
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:03.960
Irish voice talking to it was Ryan
and Jeff I think about something. So

1595
01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:06.960
they did it. One might okay
for some charity thing or something, But

1596
01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:11.920
yeah, emailing in MP three's.
I mean that's a pretty big caught off

1597
01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:13.960
technically for a lot of people as
well. I think if we were to

1598
01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:16.000
do it, we would have an
actual phone number, right yeah, oh

1599
01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:19.119
yeah, we would have to be
that dumb. Jeff thinks we might still

1600
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:23.680
have that phone number from the hot
spot, like that's probably still within possession

1601
01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:27.119
of the company, So we might
look into that. I don't know,

1602
01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:30.760
Uh, you know, we're not
gonna We're not gonna do anything so crazy

1603
01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:32.439
that it like jacks up the audio
version of this thing or whatever, like

1604
01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:35.960
in terms of playing around with the
live format, but we got some ideas.

1605
01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:40.199
I'll go as far as it saves. We're actively looking into it.

1606
01:34:40.359 --> 01:34:43.279
Okay with that, all right,
that's that's the only teaser you're gonna get.

1607
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:48.279
That sounds good. Uh, let's
see Ben from San Diego that sorry,

1608
01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:51.399
that is a concern though, when
you go to a video podcast like

1609
01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:55.640
messing up this the format of the
show totally. Yeah, I mean this

1610
01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:58.479
thing we are very cognizant of that, and things still has to work as

1611
01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:00.159
an audio only show. Yeah,
it is. That is why, well,

1612
01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:03.960
that is why we did not put
a program feed in this room.

1613
01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:09.560
So that we can't see which camera
is live not only or that or just

1614
01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:12.960
obsessively like seeing trying to find out
what you look like or like you know,

1615
01:35:13.319 --> 01:35:15.760
or or even worse, having like
a feed of the live chat and

1616
01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:18.640
here. Yeah, utterly disastrous.
Yes that too for the quality of show.

1617
01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:21.079
And that would that would just be
distracting, and yeah that that is

1618
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:26.000
not going to happen so effectively.
It is like, uh, we have

1619
01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:30.319
behind the scenes. We have been
practicing doing the live video for the past

1620
01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:33.319
couple of weeks. Yes, yes, there are and ordered video podcasts.

1621
01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:36.840
Hopefully we'll never see the live Yeah, well it didn't do my hair,

1622
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:42.880
yeah, and so and we've been
using this room audio only for ever since

1623
01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:45.199
we've been next. Absolutely the goal
is to you know, carry on as

1624
01:35:45.279 --> 01:35:47.640
usual. Yes, there happen to
be some cameras here and stuff. That

1625
01:35:47.720 --> 01:35:51.039
is a challenge I can appreciate considering
what we do in the lobby. Yeah,

1626
01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:54.720
you guys will move some more of
a podcast ish kind of for we

1627
01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:57.880
came the other way, which was
like kind of required when you've gone,

1628
01:35:57.880 --> 01:36:00.600
because we bring on people who aren't
in front of camera a lot of the

1629
01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:02.880
time. They were like editors who
also bring on our microphones. Thank you

1630
01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:04.920
so much for I really appreciate it. So I was like, yeah,

1631
01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:08.680
I'm trying to break away from Nash
because you have this you know, projector

1632
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:11.560
presentee sort of vibe when you especially
when we had the couch the way we

1633
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:14.399
had it with people around in front
of camera. So yeah, that was

1634
01:36:14.439 --> 01:36:17.640
like creating like the intimate setting is
just so important and people facing each other,

1635
01:36:17.800 --> 01:36:20.720
yes, that sort of chats.
Indeed, God speed, gentlemen.

1636
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:25.239
It's a tough video production problem to
solve. Everybody's looking at each other.

1637
01:36:25.319 --> 01:36:27.439
Fun though, Yeah, it's like
it's all fun. All that sounds cool.

1638
01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:30.680
Thank you guys, do a good
job. Thanks all right. Ben

1639
01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:33.439
from San Diego so to No announced
a few weeks ago that the New Zelda

1640
01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:36.520
would be the only game at their
E three booth. What I'm wondering is

1641
01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:41.039
which version are they going to show. If they show the WEU version,

1642
01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:44.840
they will be premiering the game on
defunct, underpowered hardware and could potentially give

1643
01:36:44.840 --> 01:36:47.039
a bad first impression. If they
show the NX version, however, not

1644
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:50.359
only would the game footage have to
show at least some of the nx's features,

1645
01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:54.640
but they would also have to bring
some form of an NX prototype to

1646
01:36:54.760 --> 01:36:59.239
the show. Which scenario do you
think is more like devin it, I

1647
01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:01.000
don't think it. We I think
yeah, I think it will be the

1648
01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:02.920
WEU Yeah, but you're right,
I mean, yeah, they would be

1649
01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:08.880
keeping it could be PC's under a
constant, you know, in a podium

1650
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:11.399
right with what is the controller though? That's the thing. Yeah, like

1651
01:37:11.399 --> 01:37:15.159
there's a Xbox three sixty. I
think they've already confirmed this no matter what,

1652
01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:18.960
they are not cheaping. Yeah,
anyway, they said flat out already

1653
01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:21.159
that, yeah, the NX would
not be there in any capacity, so

1654
01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:26.159
it'll be has to be the Wuvers. Yeah. But then that that raises

1655
01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:28.840
the question of like how different are
these versions actually going to be? You

1656
01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:30.640
know, if they're willing to look
at Twilight Princess, they're willing to debut

1657
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:33.279
the game on the wear, Yeah, exactly, Like I'm not expecting to

1658
01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:38.199
be that different, right, or
you say it'll look way better and then

1659
01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:41.399
your imagination fills in the rest.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

1660
01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:44.000
how many we use are they're out
there? Well, they sell like

1661
01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:47.399
twelve million of those things or something
that's like or twelve I think. I

1662
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:53.039
mean if that thing's coming out on
both systems. I've got one, three,

1663
01:37:53.439 --> 01:37:56.359
three of those twelve. Uh,
you know they're go they're gonna want

1664
01:37:56.399 --> 01:37:59.159
to sell a bunch of the WU
version to WEU owners, right like they're

1665
01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:00.439
not going to sell millions of an
x is on day one, you know,

1666
01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:03.000
like they've got to sell that game
to an install base. Yeah,

1667
01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:06.640
they don't want to look like they
are completely forgetting about They're not xboxing,

1668
01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:10.840
right you although, I mean,
you know that'll be that'll be basically the

1669
01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:14.119
last game they put out that have
they said that it's going to be a

1670
01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:17.119
launch title for the NX well,
because we may have a situation where this

1671
01:38:17.159 --> 01:38:20.119
comes out. I thought they said
it was shipping simultaneous, Okay, yeah,

1672
01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:23.600
mark for both systems, I think, right, yeah, so it

1673
01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:28.399
is like literally a Twilight Princess situation, right yeah? Or actually the GameCube

1674
01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:30.319
version of that come out at the
same time or was it after? I

1675
01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:32.039
think it was this oh you know
what, maybe it was like if it

1676
01:38:32.119 --> 01:38:33.800
was after, I think it was
like a couple of weeks, right,

1677
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:36.239
it wasn't it was a lot.
I think it was like not only like

1678
01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:39.800
just a little bit after, but
also like they didn't make that mini Like

1679
01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:42.720
I remember the GameCube version of that
game was like hard to find it was.

1680
01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:45.119
Yeah, huh, it's it's a
weird It might have been December.

1681
01:38:45.159 --> 01:38:48.920
It's a weird thing for them to
do twice. Yeah, they're a weird

1682
01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:53.199
company. Yes, that is,
that is for sure. Uh. David

1683
01:38:53.239 --> 01:38:58.279
from Calgary writes in about that poop
question from last Oh god, I missed

1684
01:38:58.319 --> 01:39:01.039
this. Yeah, yeah, would
you definitely missed out? Would you think

1685
01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:02.720
I think it was? I think
it was. Would you touch poop for

1686
01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:06.159
twenty dollars? Yeah, oh you
were here. You can do it for

1687
01:39:06.159 --> 01:39:10.439
free every day. I think I
can get twenty dollars every time I touch

1688
01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:15.680
ship. That'd be great. David
from Calgary writes in something that he says

1689
01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:19.119
has always stuck with him from his
engineering university days. Listening to your earlier

1690
01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:23.359
podcast segment about touching poop, I
was reminded of a conversation we had with

1691
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:27.600
our engineering friend who now works at
NASA. Her title is actually Mission Controller

1692
01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:30.640
Wow. At the time, we
were sitting around and playing football rather than

1693
01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:33.720
studying for finals, when the topic
of smelling poop came up somehow, and

1694
01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:38.760
she pointed out an obvious but horrifying
point about the issue. You know,

1695
01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:42.000
smelling something, this is this is
quote. You know, smelling something is

1696
01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:44.920
a heck of a lot worse than
seeing something. See something, you just

1697
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.159
have to have a bunch of photons
lighting up cones and rods in your eyes.

1698
01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:50.680
But in order to smell something,
parts of it have to literally reach

1699
01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:55.800
into and deposit physically into your nose, and then as part of that chemical

1700
01:39:55.840 --> 01:39:59.560
reaction, some of those particles then
become part of your body. Oh god,

1701
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:02.920
wait, we actually had this discussion
Dan on an episode of Middle You're

1702
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:08.479
scanling, that doesn't surprise me.
So by that logic, if I were

1703
01:40:08.520 --> 01:40:11.119
to fart and you guys were like, oh, that's a stinky fart,

1704
01:40:11.159 --> 01:40:15.039
don't you guys would be part my
farts at that point, like your atomic

1705
01:40:15.079 --> 01:40:19.640
makeup would very personally infinitely small part
of this would but it would cycle out.

1706
01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:23.800
I don't want to finish that sentence. It would it would cycle out

1707
01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:26.319
of your your person at some point, at some point, Like it's not

1708
01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:29.239
permanently. It's not like a tattoo
like my Parson's part of you forever.

1709
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:31.079
I mean, we're already made of
the farts of everyone who's lived before.

1710
01:40:31.119 --> 01:40:35.479
That's true. So I literally passed
the sewage truck this morning and had the

1711
01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:39.880
thought that if I was trying to
not breathe, and I smelt it,

1712
01:40:39.960 --> 01:40:42.720
and I thought, is this going
to be in my body for like weeks?

1713
01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:44.680
Now? Can I get rid of
the smell? It's just going to

1714
01:40:44.720 --> 01:40:46.399
be lingering in there. I think
there was a good tenth of a mile

1715
01:40:46.520 --> 01:40:51.560
during beta breakers where I was farting
every step. Did you talk about before

1716
01:40:53.039 --> 01:40:55.640
after? Did you do your do
your two plates of chicken? Off?

1717
01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:58.800
Right over? Whatever it was?
What was your pre what was your night?

1718
01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:00.920
What was your rights for the night
before? I watched Indiana Jones and

1719
01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:06.199
The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Juan Me, my girlfriend and Tim Terry.

1720
01:41:06.239 --> 01:41:10.880
We ate two full new these are
all new boxes and things. Two

1721
01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:15.479
full things of pringles, one full
thing of cheese it white cheddar grooves,

1722
01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:20.840
one full big box of cinnamon powdered
doughnuts, and I think two or three

1723
01:41:20.920 --> 01:41:25.159
pints of Ben and Jerry's. This
this was your pre race regimen? Yes,

1724
01:41:25.239 --> 01:41:29.520
good God? And also beer.
Wow, that's impressive. I mean

1725
01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:31.960
you burn calories on runs. You
gotta yeah, yeah, you gotta put

1726
01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:35.319
them in burned clean calories or something
that I don't know. That was after

1727
01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:40.039
going to the Tennessee Grill and eating
a bunch of shitty food there, good

1728
01:41:40.039 --> 01:41:43.159
shitty. Here's the Tennessee Grill.
It's not terrible down the sunset. It's

1729
01:41:43.239 --> 01:41:46.119
a good, unpretentious diner, greasy
spoon plays great. It's good stuff.

1730
01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:53.039
Good, yeah, Tennessee. Williams. Yes, good stuff. Matt from

1731
01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:58.039
Illinois right soon says in Capcom's latest
fiscal report, it was brought up that

1732
01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:02.079
quote. We also possess vast library
of content in which there remains multiple IP

1733
01:42:02.439 --> 01:42:06.119
that have not yet been utilized to
their full potential. These issues we will

1734
01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:11.399
handle moving forward. I totally did
not see that, but I'll take his

1735
01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:16.600
word for it. Jason, I
don't recall Capcom fan Capcom fan follow their

1736
01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:21.840
financials or anything, but I don't
know the man. I want to rescue

1737
01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:26.840
Rangers. Let's bring so yeah.
So yeah, that's that's basically his question.

1738
01:42:26.880 --> 01:42:29.319
He says. My question to you
is one, what if any,

1739
01:42:29.319 --> 01:42:32.359
what if any Capcom owned ips would
you like to see brought back or further

1740
01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:36.199
further utilized to their potential? Two? Do you think there could be any

1741
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:41.319
chance that Capcom would take a chance
on a new Beautiful Joe game. Nah.

1742
01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:44.119
No, those were awesome, but
I just don't think they ever sold

1743
01:42:44.199 --> 01:42:45.760
that much, I think, which
is a shame. They were. Yeah,

1744
01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:50.920
they were real good. But Dino
Crisis Okay, all right, the

1745
01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:56.199
third game was real bad. It's
real bad. They should make Resident Evil

1746
01:42:56.239 --> 01:43:00.840
good again. M I don't disagree
with you. I also don't know that

1747
01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:04.960
it's within their power to do that
about a corpse. It could be a

1748
01:43:04.960 --> 01:43:09.039
return to form. I'm sure,
yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Oh

1749
01:43:09.079 --> 01:43:11.920
man, every every attempt at bringing
back Final Fight has just been sad.

1750
01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:16.319
Street Wise, Yeah, it's terrible
lost planet, and we don't want lost

1751
01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:24.000
no, no, no, dark
Void. That was also not great.

1752
01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:32.960
Command on Section Z. Anybody that
street Fighter platformer? Really? What was

1753
01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:38.319
that street Fighter twenty ten? The
Final Fight? I think so? Yeah?

1754
01:43:38.399 --> 01:43:42.359
Puzzle Fighter? Yeah, actually,
Chippendale would be way out there.

1755
01:43:42.399 --> 01:43:45.199
Chippendale and puzzle Fighter. It might
be my actual two choices that would I

1756
01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:49.520
would love a new puzzle Fighter Trojan
Okay, yeah, that's not bad,

1757
01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:56.239
all right? Yes, best answer, Maximo, Just one pile of rum

1758
01:43:56.279 --> 01:43:59.399
for your mouth and my mouth.
Ghosts and goblins, I mean Dead Rising

1759
01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:02.439
man. Yeah, I like three. I don't know how well three did,

1760
01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:05.800
but I would Three's good. It
was a good game. It was

1761
01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:11.119
a real launch title. Yeah,
yeah, but I actually thought it was

1762
01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:14.439
like more fully featured than you expect
for a launch title. It felt like

1763
01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:17.039
a real video game to me.
My worry was it looked too serious and

1764
01:44:17.079 --> 01:44:21.039
those early trailers, but it was
still goofy as super tongue and cheek for

1765
01:44:21.079 --> 01:44:25.079
sure. Yeah. I don't know. I can't come up with much else

1766
01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:28.680
that they're sitting on that. Yeah, I don't know where like the license

1767
01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:32.560
is line to mean perfect, but
you know, it's like maybe another comedy

1768
01:44:32.680 --> 01:44:35.600
might be something, but like you
know, that's like a beautiful Joe situation

1769
01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:39.000
where like people that played it love
it, but it didn't sell that much.

1770
01:44:39.079 --> 01:44:41.640
Yeah, and also the people who
created that are long gone at this

1771
01:44:41.720 --> 01:44:45.800
point, surprising. What's that Dead
Rising? Yeah? Yeah, I would

1772
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:47.239
have said this Wikipedia page here,
I would have said duck Tails. But

1773
01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:50.760
remember when everyone got super excited when
they announced that duck Tails, and then

1774
01:44:50.800 --> 01:44:54.680
it came out and everyone's like,
no, we're good. I don't think

1775
01:44:54.680 --> 01:44:57.399
it wasn't terrible. It wasn't bad, but like it came out and just

1776
01:44:57.439 --> 01:45:00.439
like no fanfare whatsoever, like no
one gave it once it was actually out.

1777
01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:04.640
Yeah, you're right, yep,
that totally happened. I don't see

1778
01:45:04.640 --> 01:45:09.880
anything else on there. Drew on
a Musha I guess, or Dragons Dog

1779
01:45:09.920 --> 01:45:13.359
One Dream. Yeah, dragons Dog
most seems like a game that did not

1780
01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:15.640
fulfill its potential, like everybody talks
about like, oh, there's something really

1781
01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:19.439
good there if they just expanded on
it was that one watt, Well,

1782
01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:26.000
we'll see one dream Godanda pretty soon, Godhand. Wasn't godhand them? Yes,

1783
01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:30.159
yeah, there we go. But
that was the published Flock Flock Flock,

1784
01:45:31.159 --> 01:45:35.000
the River Flock, the cheap game
with the UFOs weir Cheap. Yeah,

1785
01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:38.000
there was a bunch of those came
out all at the same time.

1786
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:40.680
I got that out launch and have
never fired it up. It's fun.

1787
01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:44.359
I thought it looked ghost to Trick. Oh yeah that was Yeah, that

1788
01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:48.680
really popular in something. It's adventure
gamy. It's not mean, it's not

1789
01:45:48.720 --> 01:45:51.840
exactly like but but they're both kind
of adventure game type. Never played that

1790
01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:59.359
thing. Yeah, it's good fun? Is it only three dys yessation Vita

1791
01:45:59.359 --> 01:46:04.600
as well? Fun game, all
right, Dustin from Saskatchewan writes in question

1792
01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:09.159
targeted to Dan or at least I
am targeting in it Dad. Okay,

1793
01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:12.840
this is he dustin the dresses to
everybody. What are your thoughts on people

1794
01:46:12.840 --> 01:46:15.319
who brush their teeth at work and
shared work bathrooms. I'm currently in a

1795
01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:19.520
bathroom at work, sitting in a
stall, pooping and writing this email thanks,

1796
01:46:21.079 --> 01:46:25.760
while a guy a few feet away
brushes his teeth. I understand that

1797
01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:28.560
I'm doing the dirty or of the
two acts, but somehow I also feel

1798
01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:31.119
like he's somehow grosser for it.
What do you guys think? I feel

1799
01:46:31.159 --> 01:46:33.800
like it would be more acceptable if
it was a single person bathroom he could

1800
01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:39.039
lock everyone else out of. Yeah, he's brushing those poop particles directly into

1801
01:46:39.079 --> 01:46:42.960
his There was a MythBusters about that. It's it's not bad. Uh.

1802
01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:45.479
Yeah, We've got some of those
single person bathrooms here where, so I

1803
01:46:45.479 --> 01:46:47.399
don't think brushing your teeth would be
a big deal there. I don't hate

1804
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:50.520
it when people do it in the
multi one. I hate it when people

1805
01:46:50.680 --> 01:46:54.319
when I go to the gym in
the morning, they fucking sit there with

1806
01:46:54.359 --> 01:46:57.479
a tower around their waist and they're
naked otherwise and they're doing all their shaving.

1807
01:46:57.720 --> 01:47:00.079
They've got like a fucking blender and
making a protein shape. They're shaving

1808
01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:03.720
and brushing their keith and all this
shit like they're doing their whole morning routine

1809
01:47:04.119 --> 01:47:06.479
at the gym. And it's like, I just want to watch my hands

1810
01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:10.359
real quick after that poop. Let
me get past all your ship here.

1811
01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:13.119
But you're probably asking me as the
flossing thing, right, yes, yeah,

1812
01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:15.479
yeah, that was yes that I
stand by. You were doing that

1813
01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:18.399
today. I did that daily flossing
at your desk. I can't I can't

1814
01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:21.239
get behind it, I ask my
girlfriend. Am I crazy? I hate

1815
01:47:21.279 --> 01:47:24.640
to call you out in a public
forum here, Oh go ahead, It's

1816
01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:29.520
funny. We did it on a
fucking panel once. It's not like I'm

1817
01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:32.000
flicking stuff. It's not like food
is flying out of my mouth. If

1818
01:47:32.039 --> 01:47:34.560
you are. If I can,
it goes on my tongue and then I

1819
01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:39.479
swallow him. That guy's not getting
shaving cream on you, but his ship's

1820
01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:42.920
taken up a bunch of space.
And the only thing separating me and is

1821
01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:45.439
dong is a towel. That's a
totally different thing. I'm fully clothed and

1822
01:47:45.439 --> 01:47:47.680
I'm flosting at my desk, totally
different things. I mean, technically is

1823
01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:51.159
only like two layers, I guess, But my pants aren't just gonna fall

1824
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:56.239
off while I'm flossing. You never
know. I mean, it isn't more

1825
01:47:56.279 --> 01:48:00.279
proof articles on your home toothbrush because
that sits there all day. Particles on

1826
01:48:00.279 --> 01:48:04.479
a tooth brush, no fansac you
know, brush your teeth on the toilet.

1827
01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:08.800
I don't brush your teeth on the
toilet, No, No two for

1828
01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:11.600
one, you brush brush you teeth
and shower a lot of time? No,

1829
01:48:11.840 --> 01:48:14.239
yeah, let's they have a lot
of time in the shower for brush

1830
01:48:14.279 --> 01:48:17.399
teeth in the shower. I often
brush in the show. Yeah, toothpasted

1831
01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:24.199
in there? How many times you
apply toothpaste to your toothbrush once done in

1832
01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:27.960
the shower? Suppose like a brush
with Maybe you have shampoos. I often

1833
01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:33.960
floss on the shower for particles that
go flying everywhere. Flossing vigorously, me

1834
01:48:34.119 --> 01:48:38.239
too, But it just goes on
your goddamn tongue or the roof of your

1835
01:48:38.239 --> 01:48:41.800
mouth. Would you ever see anything
fly out of my mouth? Call me

1836
01:48:41.800 --> 01:48:43.680
out right then, I'm not you
know not, you know, it's worse

1837
01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:46.880
than that. People clipping their nails
on the bus. I've never seen that.

1838
01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:49.520
But oh yeah, that sounds fucked
up. I can't get behind that.

1839
01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:54.840
That sounds gross. That has happened
multiple times, super gross. Can't

1840
01:48:54.880 --> 01:49:00.079
do it? Like what type of
people? Uh, I don't know in

1841
01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:04.159
this people are like kids are like
adults. Okay, not wearing suits,

1842
01:49:04.319 --> 01:49:09.880
Okay, Clevener's toes. That's pretty
nasty. Fingers, I haven't seen the

1843
01:49:11.239 --> 01:49:14.119
fingers. Fingers. I can't remember
who, but somebody used to clip their

1844
01:49:14.199 --> 01:49:18.479
nails here. No, somebody did
that. I can't remember who it was.

1845
01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:23.680
You never get them. They always
fly off, always always lose one.

1846
01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:25.800
You can do it over a trash
can, and like nine of them

1847
01:49:25.800 --> 01:49:30.920
are gonna go flying. Yeah,
that's the truth. That's disgusting. I

1848
01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:34.600
walk into my shower to do it, even if I'm fully closed. Yeah,

1849
01:49:34.960 --> 01:49:39.520
just to the nails, just just
to make sure. Yes, Sometimes

1850
01:49:39.520 --> 01:49:43.199
I hang in the airlock. Sometimes
I hang my hands out the window because

1851
01:49:43.239 --> 01:49:47.960
it just goes down. Seriously,
the backyards. You can't control the angle

1852
01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:51.359
though. What if they bounce back
into the window then whatever, It's still

1853
01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:54.960
less than if I try to do
it over a trash can. I think

1854
01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:57.760
the only solution is to go all
the way out to the landfill and stand

1855
01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:00.319
in the middle of the garbage and
do it there, because then let's go

1856
01:50:00.359 --> 01:50:01.640
swim in the ocean and do it
there. You go, just do what

1857
01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:08.039
I do. Use your use your
teeth, baby. Yeah, yeah,

1858
01:50:08.239 --> 01:50:10.880
I think people doing that, like
are your teeth even? That's strong.

1859
01:50:10.960 --> 01:50:13.359
I've tried to do it. I
don't know how people do it. You

1860
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:15.600
get it on the you get the
corner, and then you tear it technic.

1861
01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:18.119
That sounds like it would just make
it so jagged so it gets caught

1862
01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:21.840
on like clothing and stuff like that. Does not do that sometimes, Yeah,

1863
01:50:23.039 --> 01:50:25.640
there's a scratch and he's sucking dirt
and stuff onto they want to put

1864
01:50:25.680 --> 01:50:28.359
that near mouth. It's poop.
It's true, there was probably poop.

1865
01:50:28.359 --> 01:50:32.039
Projects points build up yourmmune systems.
Yeah, just just like licking the baby.

1866
01:50:32.479 --> 01:50:36.880
Don't think the baby probably not.
Uh, let's see shake it.

1867
01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:40.600
Don't do that either. No,
no, no, we've been over this.

1868
01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:44.359
Carson from Maryland. I'm playing through
Uncharted four right now, but I

1869
01:50:44.359 --> 01:50:46.520
haven't been able to play the New
tomb Raider yet. How does Uncharted four

1870
01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:50.319
compare to it? It's they're pretty
different. Different. I can see why

1871
01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:55.760
people would want to compare the two
three person tomb rating action treasury stuff,

1872
01:50:56.000 --> 01:50:58.800
but I don't know. Like when
I remember Woman Charted first became a thing,

1873
01:50:58.840 --> 01:51:01.119
it just felt like, oh,
they made their own off brand tomb

1874
01:51:01.199 --> 01:51:04.960
Rador game. Yeah yeah, like
I get dude, if you will,

1875
01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:10.079
sure, I feel like I'm charted. Especially this one is way more story

1876
01:51:10.079 --> 01:51:13.199
focused than tomb Raiders, Like tomb
Raders has its cut scenes and stories,

1877
01:51:13.319 --> 01:51:15.199
like I don't remember ever giving a
ship. The new one had a pretty

1878
01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:19.680
pretty sand good story component. I
played through that like four or five months

1879
01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:23.319
ago when it came out on PC, and I'm trying to think of one

1880
01:51:23.399 --> 01:51:27.039
thing. There's a guy with glasses
and maybe a shipwreck. Yeah, there's

1881
01:51:27.079 --> 01:51:30.159
like a secret of immortality and a
hidden city and Siberia Creek. Man,

1882
01:51:30.199 --> 01:51:34.359
I don't remember there was snow.
I remember, yeah, yeah, I

1883
01:51:34.359 --> 01:51:38.000
thought, well it was better than
I expected. I'll put it that way.

1884
01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:40.159
And I don't remember anything, but
I think I'll remember I charted for

1885
01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:42.119
is for a while, like yeah, so yeah, I think there's way

1886
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:44.159
more of a narrative. I think
it's more linear, you know, like

1887
01:51:44.159 --> 01:51:46.760
there are some Yeah, it's per
linear yeah, I mean there were those

1888
01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:49.680
bigger areas we were driving around and
stuff where it's a little more open,

1889
01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:55.119
but the new Tomb Raider felt much
more open than not totally. Yeah,

1890
01:51:55.199 --> 01:51:58.680
good on them for for you know, putting their own I was gonna say,

1891
01:51:58.800 --> 01:52:00.520
making a different kind of game,
but you know, it's it's at

1892
01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:02.840
its core kind of the same kind
of game. You know, you're still

1893
01:52:02.840 --> 01:52:08.520
climbing up sides of cliffs and doing
some shooting and stuff, but like areas,

1894
01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:10.640
it has a different feel to it. For sure. It's all on

1895
01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:15.680
locks and weapons crafting and like side
side mission type stuff. And yeah,

1896
01:52:15.720 --> 01:52:18.920
like you said, there's just kind
of big open areas. And I I

1897
01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:24.560
think Rise of the Team Raider is
a more interesting game started four Constant really,

1898
01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:29.880
I just totally I really liked that
game too, and and just you

1899
01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:33.720
know, more variety and more interesting
unexpected stuff than like, nothing compares to

1900
01:52:33.720 --> 01:52:39.159
the Spectacle and and Charted for like
it's it's it is like, but there's

1901
01:52:39.199 --> 01:52:42.239
some pretty good spectacle and yeah,
yeah for sure, but but again they

1902
01:52:42.279 --> 01:52:44.600
found a different angle and I think
I liked that control better and just the

1903
01:52:44.640 --> 01:52:46.439
gameplay and upgraating stuff. Yeah,
yeah, but I found that that stuff

1904
01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:51.159
was more engaging to me for sure. Uh. Let's see Eddie from Maine.

1905
01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:56.880
So apparently when one does a Google
search of street Overlord, the third

1906
01:52:56.920 --> 01:53:02.800
search suggestion after Street Overlord Strong and
Street Overlord eBay is stree Overlord giant bomb.

1907
01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:08.560
So how does it feel to be
leading the charge on street Overlord been

1908
01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:17.119
associated with street Overlords? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, you're probably you're definitely

1909
01:53:17.199 --> 01:53:19.079
now, yes, now that I
don't remember what you're talking about, you

1910
01:53:20.079 --> 01:53:24.119
right about that? If I wonder
if they're giving the full image when they're

1911
01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:27.960
doing this, if copy, if
copyright infringing dick pills is the worst thing

1912
01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:31.079
that we are now associated with,
I think that we will risk pretty easily.

1913
01:53:31.239 --> 01:53:33.960
I'm rather proud of it, to
be honest. Yeah. Yeah,

1914
01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:36.239
it took a lot of work to
get here. Yeah for sure, we've

1915
01:53:36.319 --> 01:53:39.520
Yes, we did some Muslin.
Yes, we've been. We've been building

1916
01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:44.920
that brand recognition from months. Now
it's finally off. I should yes.

1917
01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:46.920
Yeah. Half the reason I keep
pulling these emails is because I like saying

1918
01:53:46.960 --> 01:53:53.560
the word street. It's so dumb. I don't know where that came from.

1919
01:53:54.039 --> 01:53:57.479
Let's see Dave from Colorado wonders if
we want to weigh in on the

1920
01:53:57.560 --> 01:54:02.479
upcoming San Francisco soda tacks ballot issue. What what? I shit? I

1921
01:54:02.520 --> 01:54:05.479
didn't look it up because I mean
I am I am broadly familiar with it

1922
01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:08.720
that I didn't look it up because
I figured this would be more for me.

1923
01:54:08.720 --> 01:54:10.960
I mean, I guess I could
guess what it is. You can

1924
01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.560
you can you can definitely guess,
or I could just pull it up right

1925
01:54:13.560 --> 01:54:15.479
now. They taxing soda? I
mean, yeah, I think that's the

1926
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:18.640
gist of it is is uh yeah
proposal. I wonder if that San Francisco

1927
01:54:18.720 --> 01:54:21.239
soda taxing. I mean, there's
twenty five cents in this office in the

1928
01:54:21.239 --> 01:54:24.760
minorn wash, right, have no
miner wash? Yeah, And if you

1929
01:54:24.840 --> 01:54:28.119
go through do you ever do that
prime now thing where they deliver the groceries

1930
01:54:28.159 --> 01:54:30.560
to you? Yeah, it's fucking
three dollars for any twelve pack of soda.

1931
01:54:30.720 --> 01:54:34.079
So I always just were like twelve
twelve packs and get literally hundreds of

1932
01:54:34.079 --> 01:54:36.640
sodas brought up to my apartment,
like build a table out of those things

1933
01:54:36.720 --> 01:54:40.479
or something. Seriously, like if
it's this huge part of the corner of

1934
01:54:40.479 --> 01:54:43.560
my kitchen is just you know,
hundreds of sodas. Did they have to

1935
01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:45.560
carry them up? Uh? They
do? And sometimes I feel bad,

1936
01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:49.640
like well, like r what yeah
you tip them? Yeah? But yeah,

1937
01:54:49.680 --> 01:54:53.439
sometimes it'll be like pouring rain outside
and it's like some twenty year old

1938
01:54:53.479 --> 01:54:55.560
girl like carrying up a million things, like all right, I'll go down

1939
01:54:55.600 --> 01:54:57.800
there and help. Yeah, like
that's do you know if they're are they

1940
01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:00.680
like not actually task rabbitting with that
service? But is that generally how those

1941
01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:04.479
deliveries happen? What do you mean? I think they imagine Amazon? Are

1942
01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:09.399
those like contracted they work for Amazon? Yeah, Amazon employees. Yeah,

1943
01:55:09.399 --> 01:55:12.560
the Bays horror Baby, where's the
place down by the dog patch? They've

1944
01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:15.880
got a huge like warehouse there,
and so they like every you can track

1945
01:55:15.960 --> 01:55:18.800
the delivery and it always starts from
that second baby or whatever place. Yeah.

1946
01:55:18.800 --> 01:55:21.720
I figured they were just kind of
exploiting cheap contracts labor. Right now,

1947
01:55:21.720 --> 01:55:26.520
they're they're especial like Amazon Prime employees
like everybody else in the sharing economy.

1948
01:55:26.600 --> 01:55:29.520
But they get tips, yeah,
yeah, because that's included like in

1949
01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:30.640
the total. So I threw a
bunch of stuff in a cart and apparently

1950
01:55:30.640 --> 01:55:33.479
you've got to get like you know, twenty dollars worth stuff. But then

1951
01:55:33.520 --> 01:55:38.239
my final total would like bottling fees
and tips and stuff, is like an

1952
01:55:38.239 --> 01:55:40.720
additional ten dollars. And at that
point I was like, okay, but

1953
01:55:40.760 --> 01:55:43.039
if this isn't worth it, but
but especially if you, like you don't

1954
01:55:43.039 --> 01:55:45.079
have a car, like my option
if I want one hundred and fifty sodas

1955
01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:48.960
is I walk down to Safeway and
how the hell do I carry home?

1956
01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:53.840
Imagine the beautiful future when this is
all done by tipless drones just carrying like

1957
01:55:53.920 --> 01:55:57.479
thirty six cans of beer. I'm
up for that across like the sky and

1958
01:55:57.520 --> 01:56:00.640
you just shoot them down down.
I got excited that I saw my first

1959
01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:02.479
drone on Beta Breakers. There's a
drone flying above the park and I was

1960
01:56:02.479 --> 01:56:04.920
like, oh cool, that's an
actual drone. First drone you've seen.

1961
01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:08.520
Yeah, and you live in San
Francisco. Yeah, I got excited.

1962
01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:12.000
I mean we've had them in the
office. Oh yeah, A little like,

1963
01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:15.079
okay, what point is it not
just an RC helicopter? Though?

1964
01:56:15.359 --> 01:56:18.640
I see That's why I great angry
at these things because these have been around

1965
01:56:18.640 --> 01:56:25.880
for years. Yeah, Dan,
you had one? I did, Oh,

1966
01:56:25.960 --> 01:56:29.600
the one that came with call of
duty. That's that's this thing was

1967
01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:32.399
way the fuck up there. Control
helicopters look way more awesome than these things.

1968
01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:36.239
Okay, it's harder to keep in
the air. Wind messes with them

1969
01:56:36.279 --> 01:56:40.920
way worse. I've broken so many
remote control licopters, that's true, that's

1970
01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:44.279
terrible. I think. I think
the actual best thing the drones have been

1971
01:56:44.359 --> 01:56:47.199
used for is like news reporting,
Like they've sent drones into like kind of

1972
01:56:47.399 --> 01:56:50.720
destroyed, bombed out urban areas and
Syria. Yeah, here is the like

1973
01:56:51.079 --> 01:56:55.439
video. It's a way to get
you know, like some meaningful footage without

1974
01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:59.439
putting camera people at risk and stuff
like even for even camera people in domestically

1975
01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:00.960
are way at risk because they don't
fly high enough to be able to land

1976
01:57:00.960 --> 01:57:04.359
the helicopters if the roters go because
there's that technique you can do. You

1977
01:57:04.359 --> 01:57:08.399
should know about this if you're like
high enough. But they only fly like

1978
01:57:08.760 --> 01:57:12.239
five hundred meters. They're not thought
high off the ground. So if there's

1979
01:57:12.239 --> 01:57:15.079
ever like a technical problem. Ty
Roush for video producer for games, but

1980
01:57:15.079 --> 01:57:18.560
I used to work as a camera
for some Texas at TV station, and

1981
01:57:18.600 --> 01:57:20.239
he says, if one of those, if one of those goes down,

1982
01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:24.039
they're done because they just don't have
enough time to like fix it. So

1983
01:57:24.399 --> 01:57:29.760
news helicopters, news helicopters. Alright, that's yikes, that's rough, all

1984
01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:32.920
right. Two cents per ounce is
the proposed soda tax. Okay, I

1985
01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:35.319
don't drink soda, so I don't
care. I stop drinking souta last month.

1986
01:57:35.399 --> 01:57:42.960
Yeah, it's great at twelve etnesota
twenty five cents something like that.

1987
01:57:43.079 --> 01:57:45.560
Is that a thing that's going through
or is that something that's being debated.

1988
01:57:45.600 --> 01:57:47.640
Looks like it's coming back up for
vote. It was defeated once. Why

1989
01:57:47.680 --> 01:57:51.600
is it a hampening to stop people
drinking sodas? Are my energy drinks?

1990
01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:56.399
Is gonna be okay to get more
tax saw that shit about it. They're

1991
01:57:56.439 --> 01:58:00.800
not going to allow fucking candy and
chips and stuff in San Francisco ending machines

1992
01:58:00.880 --> 01:58:03.840
on like official like official state buildings
and stuff. They can't have like kit

1993
01:58:03.960 --> 01:58:06.960
cats and stuff. It has to
be fucking salads or whatever. I think

1994
01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:12.159
I think to get too political,
but I think the thinking is that people

1995
01:58:12.199 --> 01:58:15.239
who drink a lot of soda are
unhealthy and thus attacks on the healthcare system.

1996
01:58:15.319 --> 01:58:18.800
Yeah, so tax to offset that, I mean, yeah, you

1997
01:58:18.840 --> 01:58:21.640
guys have a massive, like the
biggest obesity problem. You guys, what

1998
01:58:23.119 --> 01:58:27.800
is it you? Maybe? How
long have you been here? Two and

1999
01:58:27.760 --> 01:58:30.119
a half years? I did,
Yeah, I see we're doing the parts

2000
01:58:30.119 --> 01:58:33.239
you like. You do have a
massive problem in that area, certainly,

2001
01:58:33.239 --> 01:58:40.159
and a massive problem. That's a
good point. Damn all right, problems

2002
01:58:40.159 --> 01:58:45.399
inism. We kick your ass at
that. They're letting lebricorns fucking everywhere.

2003
01:58:45.239 --> 01:58:51.199
There's your poorly informed political minute,
yes on your podcast. Yeah, yeah,

2004
01:58:51.359 --> 01:58:55.439
it's gonna be exactly sixty seconds long, because that's all anybody can tolerate.

2005
01:58:55.840 --> 01:59:00.760
I mean, sorry, uh,
we kind of covered this when we

2006
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:03.119
were talking about Doom already, but
I pulled an email from Allen in Philadelphia

2007
01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:05.880
asking about I'll just read it and
if you guys have anything else to say

2008
01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:11.279
now that, against all odds,
Bethesda has successfully made Wolfenstein and Doom relevant

2009
01:59:11.319 --> 01:59:13.920
again. Is it time for Quake
to come back? Does it development?

2010
01:59:14.079 --> 01:59:18.359
Or does another studio take the reins? Like I kind of got last time

2011
01:59:18.399 --> 01:59:20.800
that happened that they gave a dude
in their studio. I didn't work out

2012
01:59:20.840 --> 01:59:24.239
too well? What quick four?
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, how far?

2013
01:59:24.279 --> 01:59:26.239
It was like a different I guess
it wasn't once Bear and I got

2014
01:59:26.359 --> 01:59:28.840
and yeah, comparity touched this,
wait for it was just like a weird

2015
01:59:28.840 --> 01:59:31.239
sequel to Quake two. Yeah,
we're gonna jop your legs out in strogs

2016
01:59:31.279 --> 01:59:34.560
and like space cyber zombie bullshit.
I mean, Quake Live did not take

2017
01:59:34.600 --> 01:59:39.399
off, Like that's it's weird because
it ran that same time a really cool

2018
01:59:39.439 --> 01:59:42.039
idea. Yeah I'm a little dope
if I really liked it, but yeah,

2019
01:59:42.079 --> 01:59:44.199
it just didn't. I think there's
a few people that still take it

2020
01:59:44.239 --> 01:59:46.000
pretty seriously. Or they didn't shut
it down. No, they changed the

2021
01:59:46.039 --> 01:59:48.359
priceing model all the times it's free
to play, and then it went to

2022
01:59:48.399 --> 01:59:51.520
a charge based like thing, and
I think it's it's on Steam now.

2023
01:59:51.560 --> 01:59:56.359
It's not like web web based anymore. But I mean, I got.

2024
01:59:56.359 --> 01:59:59.760
I got kind of embroiled into discussion
on Twitter about this right before the podcast,

2025
01:59:59.800 --> 02:00:01.199
and people are saying, like,
what part of Quake do you even

2026
02:00:01.199 --> 02:00:04.800
reboot? You know, like because
like Quake two is its own thing with

2027
02:00:04.880 --> 02:00:08.800
the kind of the space zombie stuff, but then like what, like what

2028
02:00:08.840 --> 02:00:11.760
the fuck is Quake one? Like
that is the brown that is one of

2029
02:00:11.800 --> 02:00:15.600
the biggest messes in terms of inspirations
and like different aesthetics clashing and something good

2030
02:00:15.800 --> 02:00:18.159
was that. I know, I
love it for that, but like medieval

2031
02:00:18.239 --> 02:00:21.960
makes it's like partially medieval, it's
somewhat love craft in there's like a bunch

2032
02:00:21.960 --> 02:00:28.479
of weird futuristic like gothic looking stuff
like metal And also if you read actually

2033
02:00:28.520 --> 02:00:30.560
found the scans of an old PC
gamer that I have still have a copy

2034
02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:33.640
of my parents' house where it's like
way before Quake came out and they were

2035
02:00:33.640 --> 02:00:36.159
still talking about it. It was
like this Norse RPG that they were like

2036
02:00:36.279 --> 02:00:39.880
it like they had all yeah,
like when they were making Quake, they

2037
02:00:39.880 --> 02:00:43.520
had all these grandiose designs on it
being like a role playing game and you

2038
02:00:43.520 --> 02:00:45.640
would have the Hammer of Thor and
that would be like the gameplay would vollve

2039
02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:48.720
around the hammer and all this ship. You can like find that article out

2040
02:00:48.720 --> 02:00:54.279
there, and like the final game
was like what was that? Total mess?

2041
02:00:55.000 --> 02:00:58.720
Lovable mess. That's what I want
to see rebooted. I want to

2042
02:00:58.760 --> 02:01:00.840
see a spiritual successor to the first
Quake here. That'll buy us. Though,

2043
02:01:01.000 --> 02:01:05.279
people that could watch the video podcast, we know that brads were in

2044
02:01:05.319 --> 02:01:10.199
a quick game. Ah yeah,
it seemed appropriate today that did I have

2045
02:01:10.199 --> 02:01:14.239
a doomed question? Yeah? Do
you see their butt holes? M they

2046
02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:16.560
never really stay in one piece long
enough to get under there and look to

2047
02:01:16.600 --> 02:01:19.640
be honest. Yeah, what if
you were NVR, Yeah, then you

2048
02:01:19.640 --> 02:01:21.600
could really really get in there.
Oh, you know what, there's a

2049
02:01:21.600 --> 02:01:25.760
model viewer. I unlocked the imp. Oh, but you know, the

2050
02:01:25.800 --> 02:01:28.720
camera controls are kind of shitty.
They don't really let you pan down under

2051
02:01:28.760 --> 02:01:32.199
there, or if they do,
do they turn off the model Like yeah,

2052
02:01:32.399 --> 02:01:35.399
iff you zoom in long enough.
John Romere's face blocks the butt.

2053
02:01:35.600 --> 02:01:43.760
Okay, that's where it went.
Uh, let's see question from Scott.

2054
02:01:44.640 --> 02:01:47.279
Do you guys aside from Dan,
really hate Mario Party or are you just

2055
02:01:47.399 --> 02:01:50.560
doing a bit. If you really
hate the game that much, then say

2056
02:01:50.560 --> 02:01:54.720
fuck you Dan, no more misery. I know it's a popular feature.

2057
02:01:54.760 --> 02:01:59.159
But so we're endurance runs and you
stopped those. Uh yeah, that last

2058
02:01:59.199 --> 02:02:01.520
one. I will have meant that
that last one, man was Yeah,

2059
02:02:01.600 --> 02:02:05.439
that was that was rough. That
was a true endurance test. Yeah,

2060
02:02:05.520 --> 02:02:11.640
even for you. I still like
it, but man, that was almost

2061
02:02:11.680 --> 02:02:15.720
five hours of It was the longest
one and the least fun one. Yeah,

2062
02:02:15.760 --> 02:02:18.520
that was a wrong choice of map, yeah, yeah, which every

2063
02:02:18.520 --> 02:02:20.720
one of my Twitter was like,
Oh, the ice one is the best.

2064
02:02:20.800 --> 02:02:24.319
I can't believe I'm saying this,
and it will never fucking happen.

2065
02:02:24.359 --> 02:02:26.960
It will never fucking happen. If
you're listening to this and you think this

2066
02:02:27.039 --> 02:02:30.520
is a ray of hope, fuck
you that I almost no, I'm not

2067
02:02:30.560 --> 02:02:33.399
gonna say it. You want to
go back and play the fair squarter map.

2068
02:02:33.439 --> 02:02:36.840
I don't want to go back,
but I wish we should. Wish.

2069
02:02:38.039 --> 02:02:40.399
I wish we could do it over. I wish. I mean,

2070
02:02:40.399 --> 02:02:42.119
Brad, there's a lot of people
out of the office this week. If

2071
02:02:42.119 --> 02:02:44.199
you just want to do one on
one and we check out, we can't

2072
02:02:44.199 --> 02:02:47.760
do it without Jeff, like we
would have to be a legit competition and

2073
02:02:47.880 --> 02:02:54.399
internationally sanctioned Mario Party. Yeah,
I don't know. I'm always gonna wonder

2074
02:02:54.439 --> 02:02:58.000
what the default map in six was
like. Once we run out of Mario

2075
02:02:58.079 --> 02:03:00.479
Party games there everyone has a different
map. So we go back for round

2076
02:03:00.479 --> 02:03:02.760
two and we do different maps every
time. Let's move on to the next

2077
02:03:02.800 --> 02:03:08.439
email, please. I actually remember
playing Mario Party with my brother and sister

2078
02:03:08.840 --> 02:03:11.159
and having a good time. I
don't think we haven't played fifty turns.

2079
02:03:11.359 --> 02:03:13.920
Yeah, yeah, I don't think
we did either. Really, Yeah,

2080
02:03:13.960 --> 02:03:16.800
I can see how it'd be a
lot better doses. Somebody else emailed a

2081
02:03:16.880 --> 02:03:21.640
video in that's just every mini game
from Mario Party nine on YouTube, and

2082
02:03:21.680 --> 02:03:26.359
that video has almost a hundred million
views on it. Whoa, it's just

2083
02:03:26.439 --> 02:03:29.760
every mini game end end, like
an hour and a half one million.

2084
02:03:29.920 --> 02:03:31.560
Yeah, it's got like ninety seven
million views on it. Yeah, just

2085
02:03:31.600 --> 02:03:36.600
like fucking what happened here? That? Like what? And every other video

2086
02:03:36.600 --> 02:03:41.600
on the channel has like four hundred
VideA They were like, I pulled up

2087
02:03:41.600 --> 02:03:44.079
a bunch of other Mario Party videos
on that channel that have like two three

2088
02:03:44.079 --> 02:03:47.960
thousand views on them, and here
is this one mini game compilation. It's

2089
02:03:48.000 --> 02:03:55.680
super confusing. It's the weirdest thing, all right. Uh. Last email

2090
02:03:55.800 --> 02:04:00.760
comes in from Nick from of all
places of Germany with some more fun facts

2091
02:04:00.800 --> 02:04:05.479
about the Apple River debauchery that we
talked about last week. Dan, you

2092
02:04:05.520 --> 02:04:12.479
said you'd spent some time on the
Yeah, somebody there's Apple River and Apple

2093
02:04:12.680 --> 02:04:15.600
Valley. Well it sounds like Apple
Valley is the town okay, the one

2094
02:04:15.640 --> 02:04:19.840
I went, oh wait, one, I guess, but there's Apple Valley

2095
02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:26.920
Minnesota. You know same, Okay, Valley in Wisconsin or Appleton the Apple

2096
02:04:27.079 --> 02:04:30.600
River. Appleton is also in Wisconsin. This says Apple Valley is a southern

2097
02:04:30.640 --> 02:04:32.880
suburb of Minneapolis. That's Apple Valley. Yes, yeah, okay, all

2098
02:04:32.960 --> 02:04:36.680
right. He says that river is
not located in Apple Valley, voted one

2099
02:04:36.680 --> 02:04:40.000
of the best places to live in
the US just a couple of years ago.

2100
02:04:40.039 --> 02:04:44.000
But it's actually located just over the
border in the garbage fire state that

2101
02:04:44.119 --> 02:04:47.119
is Wisconsin. Hey, it seems
like a good state. Just fine.

2102
02:04:47.760 --> 02:04:53.000
Back, The Apple River has a
quite storied history. What started as a

2103
02:04:53.039 --> 02:04:57.239
family friendly tube and down the river
quickly turned terrible as people use it to

2104
02:04:57.239 --> 02:05:00.760
get wildly drunk with little to no
police intervention. Also being based just across

2105
02:05:00.760 --> 02:05:04.640
the border in Wisconsin, where fireworks
of all sorts were legal, not the

2106
02:05:04.680 --> 02:05:09.359
case in Minnesota, where you can
only get sparklers and shitty fountains, it

2107
02:05:09.439 --> 02:05:14.119
led to all of the best slash
worst kinds of entertainment Imaginable Drunk, overweight

2108
02:05:14.119 --> 02:05:18.079
Middle American rubs would partake in such
fun events as firing Roman candles at campers

2109
02:05:18.119 --> 02:05:21.560
who were tenting on the river banks, throwing half empty beer cans, at

2110
02:05:21.600 --> 02:05:26.920
children getting ridiculously sunburned as they got
too drunk to remember that water washes away

2111
02:05:27.239 --> 02:05:30.319
sunscreen on their pale bodies that have
been inside for the last nine months of

2112
02:05:30.319 --> 02:05:34.239
horrible winter, and people exposing themselves
following the rule of you never want to

2113
02:05:34.279 --> 02:05:39.720
see the people who want to show. The river ends up being filled with

2114
02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:43.600
garbage, not just referring to the
people floating down it with beer cans for

2115
02:05:43.680 --> 02:05:47.840
all of the lowest level beers imaginable
littering the sides. My favorite band favorite.

2116
02:05:47.880 --> 02:05:55.680
My favorite brands include Beer thirty that
rainy bells smelled, Beer Colon thirty

2117
02:05:56.000 --> 02:06:00.840
with the slogan It's always beer Thirty's
an ad from that, and Beer Ice,

2118
02:06:01.359 --> 02:06:06.279
which surprisingly was from a different but
equally terrible company. Those are two

2119
02:06:06.319 --> 02:06:11.920
beers that I really want to Somebody
send us some Beer thirty or Beer Ice

2120
02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:17.720
also used fireworks, big lighters,
and drug paraphernalias strown about the river banks.

2121
02:06:18.359 --> 02:06:24.600
That's it's exactly what you'd expect from
a state park in Wisconsin. That's

2122
02:06:25.079 --> 02:06:29.640
that stuff's uncool. But man,
would it be awesome to shoot off fireworks

2123
02:06:29.720 --> 02:06:32.520
from an inner tube in a Yeah? It ish Okay, that sounds like,

2124
02:06:32.920 --> 02:06:35.439
yeah, we used to go.
We used to go being yeah done

2125
02:06:35.479 --> 02:06:40.720
in like a Milwaukee area around summerfest
time. Yeah, it was debaucherous for

2126
02:06:40.760 --> 02:06:43.960
sure, but I think like that
was the right place for it. Okay,

2127
02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:46.239
the Midwest is pretty cool. It's
Yeah, this sounds like there's not

2128
02:06:46.279 --> 02:06:50.560
a lot to do there. Well, maybe there is months out of the

2129
02:06:50.600 --> 02:06:53.479
year. Yeah, you're gonna go
out and you're gonna have a good time

2130
02:06:53.479 --> 02:06:56.520
to be able to stir crazy when
you get out. Absolutely, what were

2131
02:06:56.560 --> 02:07:00.680
you shooting fireworks at just you know
each other? Yeah? Probably, okay,

2132
02:07:00.920 --> 02:07:05.520
probably probably people sometimes, Okay,
alright, I don't remember. Yeah,

2133
02:07:05.880 --> 02:07:11.000
it's also drinking going on. Neither
neither does your pearl Loster don't he

2134
02:07:11.039 --> 02:07:14.520
doesn't listen. That's good, that's
a good thing. All right, it's

2135
02:07:14.520 --> 02:07:21.880
all the emails I got podcast Johnny
Bond dot com. Uh now what now?

2136
02:07:21.880 --> 02:07:25.680
What do we do? What music
should we go? Comes next?

2137
02:07:25.960 --> 02:07:28.399
I guess we should go. Did
you want me to play some music?

2138
02:07:29.319 --> 02:07:30.920
Look at emails at F one dot
cool? Yeah, yeah, that was

2139
02:07:30.920 --> 02:07:33.039
that where your emails go. Yeah, what kind of emails do you guys

2140
02:07:33.039 --> 02:07:38.239
get? Emails about cars? Are
they all about F one yeah, mostly.

2141
02:07:38.399 --> 02:07:41.600
Yeah, we're right, we're yeah, we're sort of bizarrely on point

2142
02:07:41.720 --> 02:07:44.960
for a F one podcast on a
video game website. How long do you

2143
02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:49.600
guys go and soft cutoff? Yeah? Yeah, the hard the hard graft

2144
02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:53.640
comes from waking up at five am
to watch a race every two weeks out.

2145
02:07:53.840 --> 02:07:56.640
Yeah, that's tough. Yeah that
was this morning. Yeah, we're

2146
02:07:56.680 --> 02:08:01.199
coming and do it in the Sorry
not okay, that's even worse. Sunday

2147
02:08:01.359 --> 02:08:03.279
Sunday, Sunday Sunday, that's terrible. My brain is just say, I

2148
02:08:03.279 --> 02:08:07.039
forgot what numbers for today, bright
kids, Just DVR that thing? Yes,

2149
02:08:09.039 --> 02:08:11.840
do that? No, because I
wanted to wake up and play doom

2150
02:08:11.880 --> 02:08:15.079
that. Oh I did that this
morning too, and I'm gonna go do

2151
02:08:15.079 --> 02:08:18.159
it again tonight. Kind of finished
that thing. Yeah, whoa, Hey,

2152
02:08:20.000 --> 02:08:24.000
it's doomed time. We're being played
off here on the Giant Podcast.

2153
02:08:24.199 --> 02:08:26.359
We're gonna get the hell out of
here. We'll see you back here again,

2154
02:08:26.520 --> 02:08:39.640
same time next week. Bye.