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So we've been trying to get Dave Williams

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on the show. He's been on
the show many times before, but we've

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been unsuccessful in booking him to talk
about whether he should stay or go as

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party chair. I believe he should
leave his party chair, that he's become

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a great asset for the left.
He's doing a lot of damage to conservative

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causes, and I believe it's time
for him to go. And more importantly,

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some prominent Republicans do. They believe
they have the vote. So we

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want to get Dave on to present
the other side. We've had no success

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with that, so we're grateful to
have Tim Leonard, a former state rep

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on who disagrees with me and believes
that Dave should stay in the job.

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So we've had two segments together already. Obviously I won't repeat what's happened in

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those two segments. You can pick
them up off of the podcast as well.

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We're going to continue the conversation from
there. Briefly, what we've touched

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on is the Colorado GOP, at
Dave's direction, presumably putting out the God

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Hates Flags, that Hates Flags email, which my personal opinion and belief,

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is clearly aligning with the horrific Westboro
Baptist Church insidious God Hates fag slogan.

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In fact, it's their website.
My opinion, Dave is openly aligning with

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them, and at that point it
should be a no brainer that he has

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to leave as party chair now.
Also, we've been talking about the Colorado

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Republican Party putting out the tweet burn
all the Pride flags this June. Again,

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I think that in and of itself
means that Dave cannot continue as party

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chair for lots of different reasons,
including the very important First Amendment issues involved

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here. But bottom line for me, and then will turn it over to

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Tim, bottom line for me is
and I think Tim and I agree on

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this. The point of the Colorado
Republican Party, and it's a critical one,

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is to win, is to win
so we can stop bad things and

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accomplish good things. And the overararching
question that I pose to our friend Tim,

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as we debate this is how does
any of this that Dave is doing

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do anything other than undermine our candidates
and help the left defeat conservatism. Tim,

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thank you for coming back for another
segment. So yeah, just take

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and run. Tell me why you
think Dave should stay as party chair.

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Super So we have talked about two
pictures in the two emails that he's put

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out. But here's what we need
to talk about. Because I do have

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the opps of you. I think
Dave has been the best party chair.

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I think he has unified the party
and he has strengthened the candidates because one

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of the things that the party chair
has to do is to say, listen,

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if you're going to run as an
R and people are going to vote

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for you, and you're going to
put our brand on, you better believe

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in, promote and defend our principles. And many many times, you know

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very well, we've had plenty of
ours that maybe come from D districts.

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Well they're D people, but they
come from our districts. So they put

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an R in their name and then
they go in and promote co aboard or

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any other concepts that are good for
Democrats. But yet the Republicans, that's

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what's on their tag. But what
Dave is doing is he is saying,

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here's our principles that you all have
agreed on. So let me said,

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Hey, we are focused on protecting
the innocence of children and stopping trans aggressors

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from our children. That is,
come and stand right out of a resolution

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that in April we all passed unanimously, all the Republicans in Colorado that we

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represented their pass unity. We want
that. We want Dave to stand and

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tell our candidates and tell our voters
that says, this is what we want.

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We want to protect their innocence.
And because this is one of the

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things we would agree on, no
pedophilia, grooming and prostration and mutilation and

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all this lude behavior at these homosexual
parades and drag shows that children come participate,

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use all the pictures in those emails. That's the thrust of it.

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And what did they do? He
went on offense. He took that ball,

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that hand grenade for the Democrats and
handed it right to them and say,

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go ahead, defend this. This
is your guys platform. You guys

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are the ones that stand for all
this stuff. Why don't you defend it?

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But like John Caldera says, Republicans
can screw anything up in a circular

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firings. God, what happens Republicans
grab the hand grenade out of the Democrats

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and start to pass it around themselves. Oh, I can't believe he's saying,

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meet, I can't believe. Well, we shouldn't judge. We're all

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sinners. And what are the dums
doing right now? They're just enough hand

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in us shovels and say, you
guys, go at it. So the

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problem of here is it's not days, it's the reaction that republic things who

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don't follow the party platform half because
if they would just let it go and

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go yeah gums, Why do you
answer this? Why are these people doing

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these tweeks in the streets in front
of these kids? Why are you after

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kids? Why are you going in
the schools. Why do you have these

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clubs these schools. Why are you
trying to confuse them with all this gendercup

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Why are you castrating them and giving
a period of bocket block is that you

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can't reverse for the rest of your
life. You'll never have told me for

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the rest of your life. Why
are you doing that? And no matter

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who they are, everybody shouldn't standing
up saying yes, that's the truth.

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Well but Tim, Tim, and
you can pick it up from there.

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But I'm eight points into your case
right now, and you can stay all

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day and all day tomorrow and we'll
get to every one of those points,

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and I believe that I can essentially
rebut every one of them. But let's

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start with that one. Tim.
Wait a second, Hey, everybody I

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know in conservative circles is working very
very hard to defeat this radical LGBTQ agenda

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that we talk about in these policy
terms, and they're doing Tim. I'm

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sorry, man, I got to
finish this point. I gotta finish this

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point. And all these people are
out there, most of them working very

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very hard to win these issues,
whether it's in the court for religious liberty

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and freedom and parental rights, whether
it's on air like we do on this

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show exposing what this radical left administration
is doing to try to further the disfigurement

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of children. We work very hard
to do that. Your hero Dave Williams

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sits back and throws cheap shots that
help the left and blow up in our

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face. So it's not fair to
act as if Dave Williams is some champion

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out there leading the way on these
issues. Nonsense. There are a ton

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of people out there working very hard
on these issues every day in adult,

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mature, intelligent ways that matter.
And Dave Williams is undermining the cause by

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sitting back there with this hateful,
violent rhetoric that is only a gift to

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the left. So you tell me, once again, my friend, how

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does this How does burn all the
Pride flags in June? How does God

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hate flags which many people, including
myself take as aligning with the evil Westboro

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Baptist Church, insidious God hates fags? How does that help the GOP candidates

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win and defeat the left? Explain
that to me? Well, here's what

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I will explain. No, no, no, no, no, no

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no no no, Tim, Tim, explain that, Tim, that's at

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the heart of it. We agree
on many of the same issues. Tim.

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I'm sorry, we've had two and
a half segments now of you dodging

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my questions. So tell me this. How does Dave's approach? Okay,

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I'm gonna put you on pause.
You're welcome to stay, but you have

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to start answering questions. Let me
read you some of the text we're getting

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here. It's just for those just
joining us who think I may be a

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little rough in our guest. These
are some of the texts we've been getting.

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Dan, your guest is skirting every
question. Dan, your guest defending

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Dave is avoidant and weak. Dan, this guy's completely unqualified. It goes

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on and on, tim, So
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Dave's approach God hates flags wink wink
to Westboro Baptist Church. I believe,

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in my opinion, God hates fags, that insidious slogan, burn all the

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pride flags in June. God hates
pride, which again you can find right

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on the Westboro Baptist website. How
does that help our candidates win and defeat

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the left on these issues that you
care so much about, Dan, Dave

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is standing up against deviant sexual behavior. We all are, we all are.

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Don't act like he's the only one
out there. And what has he

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done besides throw these juvenile, self
destructive bombs. What has he done on

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these issues? They're not juvenile though. This is where if you would give

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me a moment to be able to
not answer some very side answer about side

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issue. No, Hey, we're
going to hit a break Tim, we're

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going to hit a break. You
come back and I'm going to give you

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the floor. I'm going to shut
up as long as you're answering the question,

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how does this help us win?
To tweet out God hates flags?

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And what do you think he really
meant by that? If not trying to

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align with Westborough? Maybe I'm wrong
in my opinion, but tell me how

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how does Dave's burn all the Pride
flags this June? How does Dave and

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it appears to me my opinion,
essentially labeling all the Democrats groomers. How

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does any of that help the GOP
candidates win and defeat the left? If

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I'm missing something, Tim, I'm
anxious to learn it, but you got

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to explain it. You're on the
Dan Capla Show and now back to the

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Dan Kapla Show podcast. Hey'm very
happy to have Tim Leonard with us former

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state Rep. CD twenty five.
Tim's taking the opposite position from mine and

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from those within the Republican Party.
You want Dave Williams removed his party chair.

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We have so far been unsuccessful in
our efforts to get Dave on the

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show to talk about that. So
Tim appreciates you staying and I'm trying very

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hard to focus on the issue of
whether what is what Dave is doing is

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undermining the GOP and undermining our candidates
and making it more difficult for the GOP

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to win, and is serving as
a big boost to the left. And

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you disagree with me on all of
that, But let's break it down individually.

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We're now in our fourth segment together. The first three are available on

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the podcast, so let's just take
them one by one. The tweet god

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Hates Flags, which I and many
others believe is directly aligning our opinion that

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Dave's directly aligning the Colorado GOP with
the insidious Westboro Baptist Church that picket soldiers'

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funerals, thank God for Dead Soldiers, signs things like that their website is

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the awful God Hates Fags dot com. So the God Hates Flags image that

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they've published on behalf of the Colorado
GOP, unless you're telling us somebody else

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did that. Does that help the
GOP win or does that hurt the GOP's

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efforts to win? Well, Adan, the good news is you've asked me

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the head about five signs, and
that's the only umits you go on.

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No, I've asked you about all
the others. Take let's use some other

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images. I'm the same. How
about this one. Let's start with this

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one. Why can't you answer that
question because that's not the meat of the

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issue. No, no, no, no, Explain to me why that's

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not the meat of the issue.
We've got all these We've got all these

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articles out there, right, all
these articles out there for the persuadable voters

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to read that say, wait a
second. The Colorado GOP now is adopting

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the language of Westboro Baptist Church.
Every thinking human despises Westboro Baptist Church.

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And it's thank God for dead soldiers, picketing the funerals of dead soldiers.

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So why isn't this the heart of
the issue. What do you think Dave

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had in mind when he had the
Colorado GOP tweet out God hates flags.

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I think we situated the fact I
know nothing about Yeah, like you said,

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everybody, But what I do know
is I do know that you've avoided

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the other images of DV and sexual
behavior. I haven't I addressed it.

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No, you didn't. This is
the ones you should be talking about.

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To say, well, put these
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these people are after your children.
Thank you, Dave for standing up.

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Okay, the voters, let's talk
about that. Let's talk about that.

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Tip, Tim, we just did
a segment on this. I'm sorry,

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we just did a segment on this, and what I said is, yeah,

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I sure as hell agree that you
have some radical lefties out there who

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are doing terrible things to children,
and they have an agenda to undermine religious

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liberty and parental rights and freedom of
speech. And there are a lot of

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us working very hard in the trenches
every day to try to defeat the radical

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left on that. While Dave undermines
undermines these causes. So let me ask

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you about another one. Let me
add the can I just finished concenters on

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that one. Because these are the
trenches. Dave is in the trenches.

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This is called the political arena.
And this is what it looks like when

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you fight that sexual battle, that
moral sexual battle in the political arena.

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Got to do it this way,
so God blessed the attorneys that are working

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on it in all different ways.
But when it gets right up close and

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personal, it looks like this.
You have to tell people these people are

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after your cast rating and mutilating your
kids. You should be. You are,

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I know, very offended by that, but you're not using that Danage's

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total crap. That is I'm sorry, man, you just say these bizarre

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things. I sit here on this
show four years exposing that wrongdoing on the

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left, exposing the agenda of some
of these radical lefties. We talk about

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it all the time, but I'm
in it to win it. And when

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you downplay the role of attorneys,
guess what who's going in and winning.

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No, no, no, Tim, It's not about pro attorney. It's

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about who does the real work and
who throws cheap, juvenile bombs that actually

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are very counterproductive because there are a
lot of people doing the real work out

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there to try to win on these
issues. Well, Dave Williams is undermining

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the cause. That's why you don't
want to talk about You don't want to

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talk about the God Hates Flags thing
because why because it's indefensible and it hurts

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the cause. Well, if I
could say, you just downplayed politicians and

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those that write laws. You said
the real work is done over here where

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the attorneys are. Now, I
don't know what the attorneys are doing,

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Tim well, then you need to
pay more attention. Just like, how

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in the world have you never heard
of Westboro Baptist Church and you've never heard

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of them picketing soldiers funerals with God
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of that. Tim. I'm sorry, but first of all, and I

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want our listeners to know Tim,
because you're misrepresenting. I'm going to put

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him on pause for a second because
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We went through all of this,
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policy issues and all of the good
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the left, while Dave Williams throws
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So I didn't limit it to lawyers. But tell me this, Tim,

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if you're right, then why do
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right now who actually do the hard
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at the Jeffco GOP, like these
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around the state. Are you telling
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They work hard in the trenches every
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years than Dave Williams, and they
want him gone. So what do you

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think their true motive is? You
know that our audience is also forty six

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affiliated. What do you think their
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don't. They lacked the fortitude to
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Okay, so they're week. Dave's
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me I think it's the exact opposite. Sorry, Dave's just standing up for

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this one issue. He's this is
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handed it like a gift to the
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be effective. It's going to be
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we all know, because there are
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leaving the party because they're too crazy, and so Dave coming out and talking

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about hate. So when Dave calls
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godless groomers. Do you agree with
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the GOP win to label Democrats godless
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said the Democrats. I think he
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website, my friend, because what
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out to the listeners. Colorado Republican
Party reposted a post from not the Bee

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Colorado GOP calls for burning of pride
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the Colorado Dave Williams is not trying
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The Colorado GOP reposted that do you
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the month. Okay, we're going
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it to you. I just read
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Tim, please address this during the
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I quoted it for batim. Do
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that? You're on the Dankpla show. You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show

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podcast. We spent a lot of
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Williams should be removed as party chair. We've been unable to get Dave on

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the show to talk about this,
even though he's been on many times before.

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There are many Republicans in Colorado now
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and Nancy Pelosi's been on with us
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to lead that charge. She believes
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but that it will be close.
We'll find out together. So since we've

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been unable to get Dave on,
we put out the call for anybody who

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wanted to come in and make the
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Tim Leonard for coming in. He's
been on with us now for four full

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segments, and I told him he's
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he'd like. So I'm not going
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ground we've already covered. It would
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up from here. So my main
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do you agree with this stuff Dave
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many ways so hateful and wrong.
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you think this helps our candidates win
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And I think Tim and I disagree
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picking up where we left off out
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if you've got a chance to look
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referring to where the Colorado Republican Party
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which has twenty eight thousand views at
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of Pride flags, calls democrats quote
godless groomers. Do you think that it's

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fair it's accurate for the Colorado GOP
to label democrats godless groomers? Okay,

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Dan, can we do a ground
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we have it's a yes or no
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segments, so it's a yes or
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the frustration through these segments is you
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or no questions. I know you
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me just tell you, well,
let's start with this one. Explain why

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this question is not fair and direct. I have a battle of ideas and

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you say we're going to clash,
we have battle videos. But instead I've

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seen your wonderful expertise as a cross
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done through this. You've litigated me. You have only posed the questions that

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you on, even those ones you
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helped the party? Do you believe
what's dan, what Dave has done is

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good for the party. Give me
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make my statement of why I think
Dan is great for the party. Instead,

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you're you're giving me a tweet from
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GOP. Important. I don't have
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well find yourself someone who has Wait
a second, tim if you are here

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to say Dave should remain his chair
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people in the party want to remove
him is the public statements the Colorado GOP

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has made. But you're unwilling to
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made. Then what are we here
for. I'm here to say it,

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Okay, So i will absolutely do
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I want to do it. And
I'm looking at a statement from Chairman Dave

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Wins sent out as an email,
the one with the eyes of Jesus right,

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and I'm going to read it.
It says the month of June has

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arrived and once again the godless groomers
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decent, holy and righteous so that
they can ultimately harm our children. Now,

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somebody put democrat in there. You
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at fault Dand, but somebody put
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Well, we are godless groomers using
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attack what is decent and holy and
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both. But first I've got to
clarify the record, Tim, No,

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No, it's the Colorado GOP that
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with Twitter how it works? I
am, I don't know, Okay,

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So what happened here? Words and
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So what happened here is the Colorado
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And the tweet says Colorado GOP calls
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you agree that the Colorado GOP called
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Well, I'm looking at I'm looking
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yes, okay, and then it
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you said, and it goes on
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GOP reposted this, which is,
oh my gosh, that's Dan. Then

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you just go but you have to
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somebody did that, you'd go your
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no, I don't know what courtrooms
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single juror would agree that, yeah, you're ifspurt. But if they repost

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it, they adopt it. And
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They're not trying to rebut it.
He's bragging about it. But let's

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go to what you Let's go to
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I say exhibit see right from the
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I want to talk about it.
I want to talk about it,

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and I want to ask you.
Okay, let's talk about godless groomers.

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Okay, who are they? Tell
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Colorado GOP puts out this statement,
which you agree is Dave Williams right the

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month of June. I'm looking at
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gear of all of Nancy Plazi's everything, everything they said, this triggered us.

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We want to that's what we draw
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no, no, tim that just
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You're misrepresenting her position. They zero
win that the people who want to

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remove zero in on multiple things Dave
has done to undermine the party. This

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is one of them. So explain
it to me. This email that says

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the month of June has arrived,
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society want to attack what is decent, holy and righteous so they can ultimately

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harm our children. You agree that
I'm quoting that correctly? Right? I

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do? Okay? Who are the
godless groomers? Who agree? Godless groomers?

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They are the people that put underpants
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jiggle in front of children's eyes.
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say that then, because it isn't
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he's got the pictures, all right, all right, what it looks like.

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So so let me ask you,
my friend. Let me ask you,

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my friend. When Dave tweets out
Colorado Gop tweets out the month of

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June has arrived. That's referring to
Pride months, right, that's right,

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okay, And once again the godless
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right, So at that point,
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these voters we're trying to persuade,
for thinking that the Colorado GOP is tweeting

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out that gays are godless groomers.
WHOA, no, no, no,

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yeah, I don't nobody would think
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said gay? All right? Did
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when the GOP tweeted those When the
GOP put those words out, you're telling

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me the GOP was unaware that anybody
would think the GOP meant gaze as a

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whole. You okay, But I'll
tell you what your listeners know. They

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know that godless groomers are attacking their
children, and they know that Pride Month

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is over the top. And what
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I don't know? Yeah, what
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is where my friend you and Dave
are hurting the cause and losing elections because

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guess what that guess what, the
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You have a radical segment out there
back by this administration that are trying to

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indoctrinate. They are trying to undermine
parental rights. They are trying to undermine

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religious liberty, and Dave Williams is
handing them a victory by implying that all

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gays are groomers, and you're the
ones you're defending the ones you say,

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oh, these are gays, but
not groomers. They should be running to

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the front and go. Dave is
right on, right on. We're good

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people and we hate these groomers giving
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they should be right out there for
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Yes. So how does this help
explain to us? Then? How does

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this help the Colorado GOP win?
How does this help the Colorado GOP win?

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Now? Are you going to let
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but do it after the break and
for those who just joined us, by

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the way, because we're up against
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segment of the show. And I
keep coming back to. Okay, tell

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us how this particular statement by the
Colorado GOP God hates flags. Many take

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it as a thinly veiled reference to
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Church. God Hates Pride, also
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find that on their website at all
as well, burn all the Pride flags

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this June. How does all of
this help the GOP win? How does

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it help the GOP persuade unaffiliateds you
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help us serve the cause by running
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it's a gift to the left,
and Tim will tell you why he sees

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it the other way. I hope
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Dan Capla Show and now back to
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of Republicans Wante Williams removed as party
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say that she thinks they're going to
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it's going to be a close vote. We've asked Dave on multiple times so

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far. Note response Tim Letard,
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enough to join us, taking the
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and timsman with us for the last
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we continue our conversation. My constant
refrain is, Okay, how does what

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Dave is doing help us win?
My premise and the premise of the Republicans

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who want him gone is he's undermining
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left win. Tim disagrees. So
Tim continuing that conversation, My friend,

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this burn all the pride flags,
this June tweet with the image of the

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flame, the active of an image
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much attention here and nationally. How
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unaffiliated? You need help us win
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quick note. I'm was a representative
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I just just because I thought it
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the question of is this something that
divides the party, unites the party gets

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more Republicans elected. Here's what these
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a philosophical issue that does belong in
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here. It wasn't this way twenty
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front of the public arena before.
According to all the things we've body talked

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about, this issue is good for
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good for unaffiliates who say I'm going
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this issue, this radical issue of
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it and they can't because it's indefensible. Of course, and my children this

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is a major issue for me.
So it divides THEMS. It brings those

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people each other. Republican party and
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Republicans that are in go. Finally, we have candidates that are on point,

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we have issues that are on point, and we are dividing the Democrats.

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We are finally in the stride that
we need. And that's what they're

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doing. Ok let's take that piece. Okay, let's take that piece.

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Wait a second. I agree that
this is a great issue for Republicans when

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it's pursued right, But my question
to you didn't go to whether this is

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a great issue for Republicans. It
is because what the radical left is doing

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on this issue is so awful.
And I talk about it all the time

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on the show. Lots of people
on the right do very hard work on

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this on multiple fronts all the time. What I'm talking about is how does

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this tactic that the Colorado GOP under
Dave Williams has adopted of sending out a

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tweet. This tweet doesn't have pictures, it doesn't have anything else. It

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just says, burn all the Pride
flags. This, to my premise,

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is doing something like this undermines all
the good arguments that we have, all

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the good ways we have to make
this a winning issue for Republicans and help

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protect religious liberty, freedom of speech, parental rights children. Undermines all of

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that by making us look like a
bunch of haters who are calling for people

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to commit violent acts and infringe on
the free speech of others. So please

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tell me this tweet burn all the
Pride flags this June with the flame image.

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How does that help Republicans win?
This is the litigator. You can't

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help. You're so good getting to
the truth. No, that's what I

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do in court. Now let me
ask you, Tim, because you made

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that comment a couple of times,
do you really think all these judges all

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over the state and everywhere else I
practice, what would allow me to go

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on for one second on cross examination
unless I was actively getting to the truth.

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Of course they would not. I'm
just trying to pin you down on

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something. You're avoiding the underlying issue. We agree, great issue for Republicans,

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but this tactic, burn all the
Pride flags this June with an active

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flame. Please tell us we only
have a minute left in the show.

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How does this tweet help Republicans win? Dave's standing between the government and these

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godless groomers and children and their parents
is a winning message to all the voters,

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all the vote Democrats. So this
call to burn the Pride facts.

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Okay, that's exactly what he's saying. He's listing the groomers, he's listening

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to the pedophilia, he's listening all
this deviant behavior lude conduct. That's the

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issue that we have not been talking
about. We talk about it all the

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time on this show, my friend. We do the hard work on this

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show. Lots of Republicans do the
hard work in the trenches. Lots of

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Republicans want Dave Williams gone because he
blows up all their hard work with a

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stupid tweet like this that looks like
a call to violent action. By the

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way, this tweet I'm looking at, Tim, this tweet doesn't have any

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of the other points in there that
you're trying to make. It doesn't have

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any of the other pictures. It
just appears to a lot of reasonable people

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in the middle is if the Colorado
Republican Party has lost its mind and is

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causing on people to go out and
start burning Pride flags and you can't see

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that, well, that's obviously the
most important issue to do. No No.

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By the way, those who have
just joined us, I've touched on

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six or seven other things. Tim
really appreciates your time. Appreciate the fact

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the music means that we don't have
a choice. We're going to be out.

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Tim appreciate you coming on. Dave
has not been willing to. I

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appreciate you doing that, and hopefully
Dave will himself someday soon. So thank

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you Tim for that. Ryan,
great job behind the glasses always, Kelly,

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you're the best. Anxious to get
your take on all of this and

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more. More indications that Biden is
looking for a way out of this race

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and may use Hunter as the excuse. Join me tomorrow at Fork