What is up? Everybody? Welcome to Rose Pricks. Okay, Hi,
Cecily, Hi, I'm very excited today because we have the housewives to talk
about. Yeah, we should just let people know that. I at one
point was like, I will never ever watch Orange County again, but I
can't quit you. Oh see, I mean it's unquittable. At this point,
I tried saving the franchise. I think I didn't watch it for a
couple of seasons, maybe like at least two or three seasons, because there's
people on here that I didn't know. This new Jennifer lady, she's new,
she's relatively new. I think she might even just be one or two
seasons old. You missed nothing thing, by the way, you dipped out
exactly at the right time, and you came back exactly there is and you
missed nothing. Well, let me just say this. I left because and
I've said this before, but it bears repeating. Tamra's son is like one
of the worst human beings. He had a giant anti trans rant where he
talked about murdering trans people and recommended that people go and murder trans people,
and nobody did anything about it. And I tried to tweet at and that's
how long ago it was. I tried to get a hold of Andy Cohen,
I could get no answers. I wrote him a whole thing. I
messaged him, I had other people like and nothing, and then he was
still on the next season. So I was like, well, I'm not
I don't care now is was Tamra was part of it. I'm not going
to hold it against Tamra for right now because she kind of makes me laugh
and she's not She's sort of apologized. And then as we talked about talked
about this before, maybe just you and I did off there, but I
think we talked about it on board a f Actually yeah, but that's where
my really strong feelings come from. But understandably I had to bow out with
Kelly Dodd until they finally fired her. Yeah, I mean absolutely, there
is a point at which it is unacceptable, and I agree with you,
and I'm no fan of I go back and forth on Tamra. I think
she's vile, but she is kind of fun. She kind of feels like
she's like someone if she were in your life, if she were your friend,
it would be so much fun. But if she were not your friend,
it would be a nightmare. Yes, I agree with you. I
agree with you. I don't really feel like that. And you know,
they all turn on each other and talk about each other. So we are
going to recap the latest episode, but let's catch people up on like just
where we are in the OC universe. Jesus Jugs is back and I'm kind
of here for it. Hmm, We're all here for it, we are,
okay, of course. And Jesus Jugs, by the way, was
that's a Lexus and she was named by Tamra that she named her Jesus Jugs,
right, right, Okay, so that all happened. This is going
to surprise some people here. But a lot of these women are kind of
fake friends. How dare you say that on this show, on this day,
on a day very important to me. I've deemed it a Housewives day.
No. Yeah, that's one of the things we didn't like about this
show for a while, and many of the shows is like, doesn't feel
like any of this is authentic, right, I mean they're just forced together
in these scenes, especially Heather. It shocks me to it's still I know
Heather is vying to get on Beverly Hills, right, and I've been reading
a lot of messages. Well we'll get to that, but okay, what
you need to know is, yeah, I do feel like Heather is trying
to be like mom of the group, Like all right, everybody, now,
I don't want you guys fighting, but I'm also gonna call you out.
You need to be honest. Why would you say certain things about me?
I'm just okay, everybody needs to sit down for lunch. We're not
having our lunch around the television, Okay, We're gonna sit at the table
like Also macro note two things. Yes, it reminds me of Catherine O'Hara,
and I think it was like waiting for Guffman where she's talking about acting
tips for you. You close your eyes when you're listening, and then you
open your eyes, then you close your eyes. That is Heather does that
all the time. Can you imagine being around that. Yeah, that was
just talking down to you all the time, and her eyes are closed most
of the time because it's so serious. Right, And then other macro note
sorry, sorry, not sorry. She has the worst taste. Heather Debro
has the worst taste in interior designing I have ever seen in my life.
I have noticed it with houses passed. There have been many giant mansions.
They all are like brown. They look like Marriott's. The furniture is bad.
The party that she had in last night's episode, it's just a lot
of wicker furniture. It's bad. She just I've said it, and I'm
not going to take it back. She has really bad taste. Oh so,
And I mean, we'll get to it. But it's kind of it
is kind of representative of the whole show. Like during her party, she
got this booth to wave a bunch of It's like one of those booths that
you see, like a win booth, where it blows a bunch of money
and you grab as much as you can, And they sort of made reference
to that, but it's so that they could ask them random which were probably
not random questions. Why would you get would you go through the trouble of
getting buying or renting a booth to blow questions around like that had to have
been like a thousand dollars just tacking new money. As my brother would say,
it's just new money. She's just hacked. She doesn't have the thing.
She does not have the thing, right, who has a thing.
I'll give you an example of somebody who has great taste. Wow, this
is perfect. Lu Anne, Countess lu Ane has great taste. You look
at her place, it's all like French does that. Whatever. She's not
wrong. Money can't buy you class, right, But in the words of
lu Anne, it's true. But as my son would say, leu Anne
also has vocal blindness. So that's not great true, that true to all
right, So tell us more about what's happening for this season, Like what
we missed in episode one, Well, it's kind of a big deal.
So in the big takeaway from the premiere, which was last week was that
you know Shannon, we know what Shannon's gone through. She had a DUI.
There was a lot of talk and again it sounds like we're repeating,
but we talked about on the other show. There was a lot of talk
about in the reunion from the season prior about Shannon having drinking problems, and
they were all kind of not coming for her. It seemed like they were
worried about her. Yeah, they worried about her, Yeah, but they
were trying to get her to admit she drinks too much, and she was
very defensive about it. She absolutely wouldn't do it. And then just like
right after that also kind of like a well, she was being very so
Gina had a DUI in the past, and Shannon was being very judgmental of
Gina, terrible of Gina, saying things out loud like you know, I
saved you from CPS they were going to come take it, and you know,
rightfully Gina lost her mind, right, but it has been very kind
to Shannon at this point. I think so Shannon got a DUI shortly after
that that was all over the news. I mean, her dog was in
the car. She was in the car. It's terrible. Nobody got hurt,
thankfully, but and she really has had to pay. And I think
they took her let well, they didn't end up taking her license, did
they. She just got like community service. She got a really easy out
on this. And so now we start the premiere with like the other ladies
are fed up with her because they're like, wow, she has She still
doesn't get it. Seems like she had no consequence as she could killed somebody
or herself. She's a very shifting blame. Her whole thing is like that
she was with this guy John Janssen right, who we're going to talk about?
Yeah, who's now with Jesus Drugs, which is why Jesus Jugs is
back on the show. Right, Very shady of producers. Well, I
don't know if it's shady but or smart making a they're making a TV show,
and so they brought Jesus Drugs, who basically is with Shannon's ex.
But Shannon is blaming her drinking on her ex. She's like, oh,
it was an abusive relationship. It was terrible, John Jansen Jansen, that's
ridiculous because she's always done this. So and she did it with David too,
her ex husband, right, but this time she's blaming it on him,
and she's like, it was a terrible relationship. And then this is
all in the first episode and she's like and John said to me, like,
you're drunk and ridiculous, like you're you're gross, Like don't drive,
so you're embarrassing me. Yeah. Yeah, So she was like, so
what did I do? I just reped the engine because I was so mad.
I was just trying to show him how mad I was. And then
and then you know I got into an accident, right, I guess that's
his fault. Right, and then there's Okay. So in this episode in
the premiere, Shannon's sort of doing these scenes where it looks like she's kind
of taking accountability kind of sorta. She does have this like scene with her
daughters and they're all kind of they're all very kind to her, but they're
like, well, mom, you know, if nothing else, you can
learn from this, and you know, they love her, which is good,
and she feels like, you know, she feels sad that she let
them down. So we have conversations like this throughout. And then at the
end of that episode, just to get to this episode, Heather throws a
party, you know, a New Year's party or something, right, and
they all come and now this is going to be the big moment where Alexis,
who's John Jansen's new girlfriend for some reason, confronts Shannon, right,
and I kind of want to say I do want to say one other thing,
which I think is a little bit important, which comes in the first
episode, which is that apparently Tamra and Shannon and Vicky, I guess we're
doing this trace Amigo's tour. Okay, So Shannon, after her duy was
telling everybody she went to like rehab that wasn't really rehab. It was like
a wellness center where there was like corseback riding and yoga and you know,
treat and therapy. But she's basically saying like, I don't really have a
drinking problem. I just was under a lot of stress, so I needed
to get therapy and like I was really unhappy. So but publicly she's saying
like, yeah, I'm not drinking. But according to Tamra, and this
is in the first episode, Shannon is like faking. She's like, yeah,
telling other people that I don't really drink. But then when they were
on their Trace Amigo's tour doing their live show, she went into the green
room and just started pouring vodka into her drink and cool too king around tam
Rat as they she's called sometimes I was looking around, said she was looking
around, sneaking stuff. Right, A lot of people, Emily, they're
all talking about how like, yeah, she's still drinks. Tamra is gonna
because this is going to happen in this episode, Tamra is going to fight
with Tamra's upset with Shannon, and she just feels like she's being a hypocrite
and she's for attention saying she doesn't drink, and you know, Tamra's not
being very understanding. But that's the setup, right, Okay, So then
so that's the big stuff at the party, and one of the things that
happened at the party, like, so, so Shannon and Alexis are going
to go have their big conversation, you know, Oh, here it comes.
They're in the same room. Oh my god, and they're clearly They
show a scene where Shannon is trying to direct production. She's like, can
we please, She's like snapping her fingers at a director. Yeah, she's
awesome, breaking the fourth wall and making them move a table. And then
Shannon and Alexis help move a table to a better spot so they can have
this fight better light, which I was like, actually love production for showing
that, yes, because now at this point we need a little bit of
that because we know there's that, But it's also kind of takes you out
of it where you're like, well, are they even really fighting? Yeah,
although I do think I felt like they were. Yeah, I mean
the great reason two. Yeah, and remember Alexis did want to be an
actor, so she's got a little siting newscaster for a while. Remember for
a second, I'm not a fan. I want to say that straight out,
but we'll get into all that. And she has her big line you
don't like it, there's the door, Shannon Badoor. It's like, oh
girl, that's what we came up with all summer. You got that,
Okay. I wrote her some lines and I was just like, how come
you're not using this stuff that I wrote you? And she's like, who
are you? No, I'm just kidding, And we should come up with
some that are better than that and just send it to them via Instagram mm
hmm, and then sue them for paying us for our great lines we come
up with. Okay. So yeah, So they get into a fight and
it's clear they're not going to make up, and then Shannon just like looks
down the camera lens and she's like, uh perfect, right, yeah,
because Shannon is mad at Alexis because Jim Bellino sued her and she spent like
three hundred thousand dollars defense. See Shannon and camera. Yes, they both
got sued, Yes, and she had to spend Yeah, Shannon rightfully is
upset about that. By the way, when we get to this episode,
I'm very team Shannon, believe it or not, I have I have a
lot of feelings about this. But yeah, so she's sued her and she
keeps bringing that up, but that's really not the issue. According to Alexis.
You're like, you're just mad I took your man, and Shannon's like,
you can have him. Thank you for taking him from me, and
she's like, thank you for I'm so glad he left you. Yeah,
Lexus is okay, So let's get So that's the beginning of this week's episod.
So right right, and they're still finding. Alexis storms in and everyone's
scattered, they're all watching from the window. They all scatter, and she
storms in and she's like, Heather goes, She's like what happened? Like
she gives a shit what happened? Yeah, what happened in Alexus Is like
she just wants to talk about the lawsuit, and Heather, of course,
it's just like, come on, this is my party, please, ladies,
we really need to act better. It's my party. Do you guys
understand how much money I spent on this party? Do you see the booth
that we're going to go into and grab questions out of the air it's a
party, spent a lot of money, right right, Okay, So there's
no real answer, and I don't think anyone's really has Shannon's back. Is
this the part where Tamera? Oh no, this is later where Shannon gets
up from the table. So is this what happens next? So Jen?
Okay, So there's this woman Jen, and I am living for this storyline.
This is just she's a nutjob. She's a lot of things I don't
like about people. Just okay, So this woman Jen apparently was with a
guy. This is what I've gathered is happening. She rented a place,
did not pay the rent on it. I guess she assumed that her boyfriend
or husband who she's getting a divorce from was paying the rent. No one
was paying the rent, which was like twenty four thousand dollars a month,
which I can't fucking stand when people are like, well, of course I
would live in a place that costs twenty four thousand dollars a month, but
you can't pay for it. But you're just so entitled that you're like,
well, why I couldn't live somewhere cheap, so I'll just live here.
I don't know, I didn't know my husband wasn't paying the rent? How
was I supposed to know. I don't worry about stuff like that. I
don't think about that. Men do that for me. The crazy part is
so Gina as trying to get her shit together and went back and got her
real estate license. She worked very hard on and she vouched for Jen right.
First of all, Can I just say I can't understand half the thing.
Gina even says they should have subtitles. She has this New York accent
that we've talked about in years past, but she doesn't even look there.
Yeah, yeah, it's a long eye. I don't know where it is,
kind of Melanie Griffin and Melanie Griffith in a working Girl. I guess
it's she's like I've rented, I vouched for her, and it's not even
that it's the weirdest accent I've ever heard. Actually, I think my regular
voice sounds more like her than what I was just trying to do. But
it's just I don't know what that is, and I don't understand why she's
like. So she's lived, she's lived in Orange County this long and she
still has County County. Yeah, I canna say it's Jersey. Yeah,
it's kind of Jersey. I think that's what it is from Jersey. I'm
from Jersey. This is why I feel that Gina is really pissed. This
is what they think is underneath it. I think that jen is making a
bit very big salary to be on a tea TV show, and I think
that the underlying issue is that she's choosing not to use her money to pay
her bills, right, And I think Gina is so angry that, like,
you, you're so entitled that you're like, well, I'm just not
going to pay it because I don't want to. Well, Jenna's mad.
I just look this up and she reveals on this website, the Daily Dish,
that the exact figure amount that she lost when Jennifer's deal fell through.
So she was mad that it fell through and she lost like fifty She herself
lost like fifty thousand dollars. So Gina's thing is like, you're taking money
from my kid's plates, right, because Jennifer doesn't feel like paying it,
even though she's claiming that she's broke. But she's on a TV show,
right, so she's not broke. She's far from broke. But in so
Gina is like, well, so you not paying it takes money away from
me, but you don't care. You just are like, no, I'm
not going to pay it right, and that out later. There's a big
fight there. But like, we do need subtitles hashtag if anyone's listening for
production, we need subtitles for Gina because I can't I can't understand her.
It's difficult. Also, she's wearing this like silver le Mae tube top,
which is all kinds of troublesome. There's all kinds of stuff happening there,
but it's a lot better of a look than she's had in years past.
She had there were years of extensions that were like orange was supposed to be
blonde, but it went orange. I mean she it was rough. She
had a rough go for a while, which does come back up with Jen.
I think Jen had the line of the night. That's a little bit
later. So okay, so everybody's freaking out right. So Jen is talking
to this other lady about the other new lady, Katie Katie lady, Yes,
about how she's just getting evicted for not paying her rent. And then
she there's a flashback where she's telling her teenage kids like, yeah, guys,
I mean like, look, we're you know, we're getting evicted,
so I don't know what to tell you, Like I guess we could be
homeless, or we could move in with my new boyfriend. Right, And
they get together a little bit but yes, right, and the kids are
like, well, I mean I guess then we should move in with him,
like that seems better than homelessness, right, which later she's uses as
like a weird I hate to I'm not going to use this term, but
virtue signaling. It's like I'm going to use it even though the right uses
it wrongly. But I'm going to say she does it in this way of
like, well, the kids, that's what the kids wanted. I mean,
listen, if the kids wanted to be homeless, I would be homeless
for my kids. But the kids didn't want that. They want to move
in with my new boyfriend, so rt my fiance. So this was kind
of like a separate scene because they're still at this dinner party where they do
that thing where they get they have like a wall of questions where they get
to ask a question that is anonymous, so they each get their question.
We haven't. So Heather's was or Alexis got like, what are your French
boles? Was that one of her? Is that her question? And she
says, you know, I just to get along with Shannon. It's the
saddest moment because Shannon for a moment is like, oh thank you. Is
that the end of that drama? Are we good now? But obviously they're
not. But then they show Shannon to camera and she's like, yeah,
we'll never be friends. Like, good luck, Alexis. But understandably on
this one, I mean if I am definitely team Shannon versus Alexis. She
did sue her for three hundred thousand dollars and she is flaunting the guy that
she was with for a long time. She's just shoving it in her face
and she's being a total ad Jesus jugs about it. Yeah. So Tamra
gets a question and it's something about what do you want to leave behind for
something? And she's like friends who talk shit behind my back, bitches.
I guess she's talking about Shannon. And then there's something about Alexis's promise ring.
Oh it's oh. Heather gets asked the question, you know, I'm
sure very spontaneously about her favorite piece of jewelry, because of course she does.
And she's like, my first engagement ring from Terry, Terry, the
first ring he ever gave me. So then he looks such like a Terry.
If I were to name him like he came acrossman, I was like,
what would I know? I'd either name him Ziggy or Terry, and
Terry it is that is really And so then yeah, they gather around Alexis
giant, her giant diamond ring from John Jansen, right, and they're like,
oh, your promise ring. And she's like, what what are you
guys talking about? And they're like, you're you're a promise ring. You
said it's a promise ring, and she goes, no, it's not a
promise ring. It's a promised ring. Let's talk about that. Okay,
Okay, is that a thing? Is there a difference between a promise ring
and a promised ring. No, that's why everybody was laughing about. That's
why Katie was like, yeah, bitch, it's a promise ring. There's
no such thing as a promised ring. That's something weird in Alexis's mind.
Yeah, No, she's what would that mean? What would a promise versus
promised mean I make any sense. No, Like I thought maybe that was
I'm looking it up. Okay, no, so beyond there's nothing to look
up. Don't waste your time. I'm saving I'm gonna save you five minutes,
five minutes. I got this in five seconds. Okay, Yeah,
you're right, it only comes up as promise Ray, there's no such thing.
So here's where Tamra and Shannon have a little confrontation. So they somehow
go out into the hallway and Tamra's like, you talk shit about me.
You said I have an ego and that I'm not a good friend. And
Shannon goes, oh my gosh, that's completely untrue. I just said during
Trace and Ego's tour that you were like super duper busy and that everything revolves
around you, like in a good way. It was a compliment. Oh
my god. She is so full of shit. And then Tama's not happy.
She's like, you're not a good person. And Shannon seems kind of
drunk at this point. If I'm honest, I mean, we're going to
say, right, she doesn't seem sober, right, right, She's like,
God, you were just being like really awful on the tour, and
it was like just really hard for me, and Tamara just goes, You're
not a good person, and then Shannon's like, ah, whatever. And
then Shannon runs back in and goes straight to some rando and she's like,
you'll never guess what Tamara said. She said, I'm a horrible person and
that I've been talking shit about her. I mean, yes, I said
she has an ego, but like she does. But here's the thing,
A pushback, a slight pushback Shannon. I get that they're all sick of
Shannon. Now I really do sound like Gina when I try not to sound
like Gena. I get that they're all sick, that they're all sick of
Shannon. I get that, but they really are so mean to her.
They are there's something about kicking her when I really like the scene later where
Gina was really kind to her, because it was like that makes for a
kind We need moments of people actually being nice. Or I can't watch the
show because I get it they're sick of her, but I'm going to push
back on you. I think Shannon's just been horrible to other women the whole
time she's been on the show, all the year she's been on the show.
She's just a gigantic victim. And this has nothing to do with her
drinking or her do U. I like, but she was terrible to Gina
got off. When Gina got terrible, she was terrible. She's so judgmental
and howorful and flaunty of her wealth and just she's so mean. I don't
feel sorry for her all. The weird part about the show is there's so
few people to root for, and every time I get I just watching it.
Yeah, yeah, no, it makes sense. Then, Like for
a while I was I really was hating on Emily. I didn't like her,
But then now this, I'm like, well, she's certainly not the
worst of them. At least she's intelligent. You know what happens is I
think that you and I find it more tolerable when people have no storyline,
but they they're kind of become the Greek chorus until like yeahes and sort of
stay out of the drama. We like them better, Yes, yes,
because you're the only people that you can relate to. Yeah, because Tamra
gets herself mixed up in the drama and I don't like her. She's also
just so very mean. Yeah, so mean. I think my thing with
Emily two is Shane, her husband, Shane. Is that so insufferable that
it's like, well, how can Emily be okay if Shane is this terrible?
Right? And I know a lot of people don't like Gina, and
I know that, and I but I but because I've missed a season or
two, I don't know exactly how bad she was, And now I'm kind
of I liked her this episode. I like Gina. I actually really like
her. I don't think she's ever been that bad. I don't want that's
annoying. I think she's just a lot. And also she was a mess.
So this is a group of very well put together women. There's never
a hair out of place, there's never a bad hair dye job, you
know, and she was just a total mess. And they were a little
hard on her for that. They live in these huge mansions and she kind
of had like a Soso condo like, which I liked. I liked having
someone on a show like that where it's like, yeah, not everybody has
to be, you know, the richest. She was going through a divorce,
she had her own DUI right, a lot going on. I've always
liked Gina, but I didn't love I didn't love her yelling at Jen later
in the episode, but we'll get to that. See, I didn't mind.
It's weird because I do think that Gina was projecting a little bit.
But also I feel like it was probably hard for It's probably hard for Gina
to watch Jen screw her over because she doesn't feel like doing what Gina feels
like she had to do. Totallyina sounds like she had to be scrappy,
she had to figure it out, get her shit together, and she's like,
and look at this bitch, just like still getting paid. Yeah,
And she's like, I didn't get to do that. You don't get to
especially when it fucked somebody else over. So I guess I'm understanding why she's
mad. I totally understand it. I didn't love the little cop hat she
was wearing, but again, we're ahead of ourselves, were totally wear that.
It just wasn't wasn't right for that scene. It felt like a kind
of a hot day. It just didn't seem like the right hat. That's
all so Gina and her real estate business. I just wrote boring And then
unless you have something to say about it, But Shannon meets up with Katie
and Jennifer for a very boring scene where Shannon complains more about John Janssen,
and then Shannon tells them like like as far as Heather goes like, I
just don't know where our relationship stands. So then Katie, in a bit
of exposition, is like, well, who are you friends with? Like
in this good question, right, And Shannon's like, hm, I guess
like Gina and Emily, girl, they're not your friends now, they're not
your friends, and but they are being nicer. That was That was,
and it was such a sad cop because Shannon's always going on and on,
and then She's like, enough about me, Let's talk about you. Do
you play golf? It's like the most random question, but let's talk about
you. Could you play golf? Could you get me into your golf club?
Yeah? Seems like that's the direct Yeah, she was going. But
then Jen is like, yeah, I guess Gina's kind of mad at me,
but like I really have no clue why. And this is where I
was like, oh my god, I do not like her son. Then
Jen is like, then Jen sort of starts to figure it out in her
mind, like if she if she, if she gives herself a moment,
she could come up with it. And she's like, yeah, I guess
Gina's like kind of mad because like I rented a house and didn't pay or
something. I mean something like that. I don't know. She's so picky
about like people having to pay their bills. And then also this is her
talking. She's like, Emily asked me why I would rent a house and
not pay? Like why does she know that? Right? Because she put
it on instable because she's said she got evicted on Instagram. Yeah, Gena.
Also, by the way, Emily and Gina are like best friends,
you dumb, dumb? Yeah, of course they're going to tell each other
that they're on a TV show and they're best friends. Are you're that shocked
that Emily found out this woman? Yeah? So basically Jen is complaining that,
like, nobody should talk about me. It doesn't matter what I do,
but people shouldn't talk about it. So then it cuts to Gina talking
to Emily and on FaceTime. Can I just had an epiphany? Yeah?
I had an ephany about Gina. So Gina's being kinder to Shannon because she's
like has some sympathy for Shannon than she is for Jen. But here's where
I think is the problem. Okay, I think she's being kinder to Shannon
because everyone's teamed up against Shannon, so she likes a little underdog. She's
been there, so she's like, all right, like this is this is
a big deal, so let me, let me be the nice one.
And when it comes to Jen, I think she's jealous because she yes,
Jen fucked her over as far as that deal goes, and that sucks,
it's terrible. But Jen always gets bailed out. She has this like gross
boyfriend. They don't like. There's a whole backstory there, which is later.
Well the backstory is is that so she Jen and Tamra and Eddie used
to have they used to all be friends with this couple with j and the
couple was Ryan. Is it holding out? Okay? Yeah, sorry,
so he that's his name, right, Ryan Rye got confused because that's also
CAMRA's kid's name, right. But this Ryan apparently used to cheat on Jen
all the time, and he would do it at the gym that Tamra and
Eddie owned, and so Tamra at some point like they told. They were
like, you know, cheats on you all the time, She's never going
to soften it. And Jen was furious and mad and you're not cool and
that's like shitty, and no he didn't, although then eventually Jen kind of
started to believe, like she you can tell that Jen's on the fence this
whole time about Ryan. She's like, I don't even know what to do
with my life. I don't know if I should be with him. Is
he a bat? He doesn't even work, he doesn't do anything, and
cheats on me, doesn't work, cheats on me. But like, listen,
my kids they that they said they would rather not be homeless. So
I guess I got to move in with this guy. I think Gina's pissed
about that, but also that she has a dad that bails her. She
has rich parents that bail her out. Yeah, that's where Gina's but it's
it's kind of unfair. It's like she's kind of putting all her anger that
might be a little bit some of it should be on Channon for what Shannon
did to her in years past, but she's putting it all on Gen because
I think a she thinks Jena is weaker. She's a little jealous. I
think she's jealous of Jen personally. I get why Gina's mad one hundred percent
she thinks jealous. I think it's more like she's it's projecting like, well,
yeah, howkam I didn't get to It's not like jealous like she wanted
to. Well maybe rich parents, rich parents at Jen has better hair,
she has better glam And Gina's thing is like why didn't I get to?
Do you know? Well, it's like why does she get to? I
don't know. I sort of relate to the scrappiness of like I don't have
those resources, like I really had to pick myself up by my bootstraps or
whatever the phrase is, like I had to take care of myself, Like
who do you think? I'm team Gina for sure on that. But it's
like I get it just seems a little misplaced to me, a little tiny
bit, and I think it comes right. Well yeah, but it's all
the same. But I also think that like it. She probably wouldn't care
as much if Jen didn't fuck her over, like if she didn't lose the
deal, because Jendice doesn't care because she has people to bail her out right.
Yeah, but it's all she found out Ryan was cheating on her,
And did she ever confront him? I don't remember. I feel like I
skipped out like half a season when we weren't recapping, and I don't totally
remember, but I think she did. It all came out. I mean
it was all on the show, so I believe it was in the reunion
and everything, and she was just sort of she kind of lives in this
like delusional space of like, well, I don't know. I mean,
I don't believe. And she's very mad at Eddie. I mean, who
gets mad at Eddie? Oh my god, seriously get mad at like poor
Eddie. How he is? He is really the real hero we didn't know
we needed. They put this woman on the show. Well, I guess
it's good. It's we're talking about it, but sid okay. And then
that conversation came up about Ryan, like well what does he do? And
she's like, he just kind of enjoys the sunshine. Yeah, she's really
used to be She goes nothing, and they're like, and Katie is particularly
like what She's like, Yeah, he used to be a mortgage broker,
but he doesn't really do that anymore. She doesn't even say, broker,
you're giving her mortgage. He used to do mortgage. He used to do
mortgage, Like she said it in such a way that she didn't even understand
what he does. He used to do lawyer. He used to do lawyers,
to do lawyer. He's a lawyer. Lawyer anymore. Yeah, he
does Sunshine now. So everyone's like, okay, what the fuck, Yes,
something's going on. Then we meet Katie's family, who I love.
I'm sure you do too, mm hmmm, right. I thought that they
were adorable. Yeah, or did you have any other thoughts? What did
you think about that? I mean, yeah, it's fine. I mean,
she sure had a lot of exes and kids that are living all over
the place. That is true. Well, she had her first ex and
she had three. I think she had a bunch of kids with him,
right, So one doesn't speak to her and lives with the dad in Florida.
So the first so her older daughter, while she had when the when
she was twenty and yes, and she doesn't that dad is not in the
kid's life. That's her older daughter. That's the one that lives at home,
Yes, with one that was talking about going on a date right then
she was married to another one for like seventeen years, and there could have
been somebody else, and she had like a few boys with him and they
don't live with her. And then they were who lives with the dad like
in Florida and the other one wanted to is like in high school but didn't
want to leave his school, so he's also living with the dad. But
would that be a different dad or is that it's not going to be a
different dad? I guess, well, maybe there's no dad in Florida.
One was too young and didn't want to leave yet his high school in San
Diego, which is not far from the OC by the way, it's like
right there, right, But he's wanted to stay in his school, so
he's obviously with somebody. Maybe the Florida one was older and she's just on
her own, but I don't think so. I don't know. She has
a brand new she has another husband and now they have a son together,
right, and the older daughter lives with them, and he's the stepdad to
her, and they were kind of messing with him because they were like,
she's like I have a day, imagine this. You're just you're you walk
into your own kitchen and right, and you're and this is your daughter really
because you've kind of adopted, not maybe legally, but you've been with her
for a long time. Not that long though, because she was married to
somebody else for seventeen years. Oh, you're right, so it's relatively new.
Yeah. And then she's like, heyd, she's not that old.
Katie's No, I'm saying the mom is not that old. So Katie,
the mom is not that old, right, Like she said she had her
when she was twenty, because she makes a joke. She was like,
I was twenty, So I got to say, look, look I wasn't
a teen mom, right, so the mom. So Katie is thirty seven
then, right, right, and was married for seventeen of those years to
somebody else. Yeah, this has to be a new I don't know.
The math is not mathing here. It's not mathing. But so she's the
daughter's just saying all the shit though to like fuck with him. She's like,
I have a date tonight. At he's six feet. My mom always
taught me that if he's not six feet, if he's under six feet,
he's just a friend. So I'm not like loving that. Then she's like,
and I got a job an adult toy store, let's just say.
And the guy finally is like, Okay, I don't really understand what you
guys are talking about, but I let's go back because I don't really love
They make it sound like it's like a vibrator store. Yeah, but then
it's not. It's like a bobblehead toy store. It made no sense.
And I didn't really see the point of that scene. Yeah, I was
not loving it either, mm hmm. Okay, so now they're gonna go
Also, uh, Katie's husband, older white Jewish husband, didn't it really
give you Crystal Michael vibes yob job? That's right, vibe Michael, totally
daddy issues, totally totally in the there's a whole thing going on there.
We go in to that. So Shannon, Uh, they're gonna they're gonna
have this big flag football game. But I guess they're doing practice for it
because this isn't even the real game because they always have to do these stupid
like bachelor type activities. I just it's not any different than if they took
a pottery class or did tantric yoga. I mean, it's just the thing
for them to do with trainers, right, it's so so so frustrating.
Ye, so they So Gina's being nice. This is the scene where she's
like being very nice to Shannon. Yeah, but it does. My question
for Shannon was does she have regret? Did you feel at this point like
I can't tell with her, does she regret her actions? I don't know.
She didn't really go do a program. I think she's I think that
Shannon, my opinion is without you know, not in her head. But
and it's interesting, we're going to talk about this in like a few minutes.
But I just think that she's not doesn't want to quit drinking. So
she's in that denial phase of like, I don't think I really have that
bad a problem, but everybody's judging me so hard that I have to kind
of say I'm not drinking much. Right. She does start apologizing, which
was big. Even Gina's like, whoa, Yes, she's actually really owning
it. Without just saying oh my god, she's saying she's sorry, I
just don't not Yeah, like she's saying I can't do her accent. It's
so specific to something. If anyone knows anyone knows. It's like it just
Shannon. No, it's not that Shannon Shannon, Shannon Shannon. So there
they were sitting around after football training and Emily is like, yeah, so
like we're going to play flag football you guys. But like, I couldn't
just do it with like just the cast of our show because that wouldn't be
fun. You got to have like teams, so I had to invite some
other people. And Shannon's like, does that mean you're going to invite Alexis
And then Emily's like, well yeah. But then Emily and Gina and Shannon
all talks it about Alexis, which this is going to come back on them,
right, and they're like yeah, and John Jansen's like a dick.
And I liked that moment. I actually liked that because wouldn't you somebody needs
to be the friend of Shannon, you know, to Shean and to Sheenan,
who's like, somebody has to say, yeah, no, he's awful,
because John Jansen is awful. Somebody has to be cool about that with
her. What a nightmare I guess to do the show. Yeah, but
Shannon would have stayed with him probably forever, since he probably broke up with
her. Oh totally. That's a good point, that's true. But yeah,
no, I'm glad that they're talking shit about both of them, especially
John. But you know, throw a Lexus in there too, because no
thanks, Yeah, who think's one bit? Yeah, all right, that's
worse. So then Shannon immediately starts crying, and then she and Gina have
a moment, and then Gina's like, I'm seeing Shannon beat one us.
But the first time I love our Gina, it just gets worse. Let's
not even try. I mean I like that, you know what, for
the first time I see her as like a real lady. I think that
I love Shannon. If I'm honest, I think I just love her.
She's great. So I don't know what that was. That was, Like
that laps into like Mary Poppins for some reason, we need someone on the
show that can do this specific accent, like we just write them all the
lie all the Gina lines. Yeah, just please help us with this because
this is really Listen. I mean, I'm trying to think of things you
might say like on the Sopranos, right, I mean, Mela, call
me calm, calm, come make some palm, some chicken palm. But
I feel, if I'm honest with you, Stephanie, I feel like that's
not it. No, even though that's but like, okay, maybe it's
trouble. Maybe it's like racking and rolling and whatnot. Yeah, it is,
it is. It is closer to that for sure. Sandy racking in
row CD. Yeah. C ANDD Sannon, Sannon, Okay, that's it.
We got it. We did it. We were really har Roland and
whatnot. Yeah, so you've got to go through Travolta, who I think
is I don't know where he's from, but wherever that maybe there's a thing
there. But if you say it like that, like C ANDD. Sheannon,
there's someone vacuuming outside in my hallway. So Monroe's gonna bark. Don't
worry about that, Okay. So listen, now we're we have a Tamra
and Eddie scene, and this is so ridiculous because at the top of the
scene they're like they're at some little bar restaurant type of thing, right,
I guess on her way to Big Bear. I don't know what they're doing,
but they order a cheeseburger and a and Eddie orders a Ruben sandwich as
if they're going to take one bite, which they never do. Good point.
And they just got off their Harley's by the way, they're bike riding.
I can't think it's gitting more oc than that. They're just regular people.
They just ordered like cheeseburgers and ruben sandwiches and whatnot. Right, and
she's so dry and what not Rakin and wel sandy, But that's not them.
We have to save that for Gina only. But they're wearing their Harley.
They have their little heart and she's got her hair all done with make
like eighties makeup. She's such a like sunset strip eighties girl. Right.
I don't totally hate that about Tamera, but it's you know, it's kind
of but it's weird because they're talking about like possibly having a long distance relationship.
Well not that far, right, I mean, I guess it's how
far with that Big Bears of Yeah, she's like, yeah, the goals
for Eddie to like live in Big Bear full time. Why that's not a
healthy merit? What are you talking about? I disagree. I think I
think it would be great. I think I know a lot of people who
do sort of a long distance thing, and it works. It's kept their
marriage together. It's very rare what you and John have. I really am
not joking like I think I think the space could be healthy. I don't
think that's normal at all. They're good though. I think that's one of
the only relationships on any of these shows that I don't worry about. I
think he just likes to do his thing and she likes to go there,
and she comes and goes. I know people that do that, okay,
but yes, I would want to move away from them too. So they're
talking about Shannon, Eddie is really being the voice of reason in this Hamra's
like, yeah, like I'm just like mad about Shannon. I'm just really
mad. She started, Eddie, why are you so mad? And she's
like, I don't know, and she goes. But you know what,
it's not even really like the trace Amigos thing. It's the lying about the
drinking. I think that's what's bothering me. It's like the hypocrisy, Like
she's she's still drinking and like she her dog was in the car, And
Eddie goes without having taken a bite of his sandwich, just eating He's eaten
like a couple of fries. The toothpicks are still firmly intact in the sandwich.
Mm hmmm. He's like yeah, he goes, yeah, you know,
she just hasn't hit bottom. You know, you shouldn't take it personally.
And I was like, you are a fucking Buddha. That is a
fucking hero. But wouldn't that be funny if it shows him eating the toothpick
And he's like, they had to call in. They both do it simultaneous.
We forgot, we forgot about the toothpicks, right, So yes,
he is the voice of reason. And I do not like the fake Tamra
crying about somebody else's sobriety. You don't give a shit about Shannon being sober.
You it's all about tam right, she doesn't care. Then she also
bad mouths Jennifer right, and she's like, you know, like I emphathize
with jen But the thing is, like, you know, because I've been
there, like I was single mom, like having to support my kids,
but guess what I got off my ass and like made shit happen, you
know, put on your big girl panties and like, you know, take
care of your shit. And Eddie goes, yeah, what aren't most Let's
just like that, you know, isn't that? Isn't that chicks right,
Like, isn't that? What's just kind of what they do? We all
need an Eddie, everyone needs a little Eddie's cute, like he's remained,
He's so awesome. But yeah, and he also reminds her we used to
be friends. Remember, we all used to hang out. I don't know
if it's in that scene, but there's a moment or maybe it's Jen that
says it later, but they were. She was really close to Eddie.
They all hung out and it's really really sad. So speaking of which,
then they go to Ryan's house, which is where Jen is living, where
she's had to move in with her kids. Oh my god, this scene
was the freaking best. And Jen's like in this huge, freaking house and
she's like, yeah, it's like an adjustment, you know, just trying
to get everyone settled, like in one home, and every kid is on
camera doing something, probably to get paid per episode. These people are milking
production. Do they have to pay the kids? They pay you the kids
are yes, you know, she's making money for these kids being on TV,
and she's probably taking every penny from them, She's probably like, well,
do you want to be homeless or do you want to hand over your
paycheck? Right? And the kids are trying to like the storyline with them
is that they're kind of bad boys. They're actually really sweet kids. We
met them last season, but they're kind of like, oh, he won't
he hung up on me, he took the motorcycle. Oh, they're like
so young, Like he took the plane. You shouldn't have done that.
You just piloted your plane, Ryan, Oh oh no, And then being
a dad, which is like insane to me, Like you, I mean,
how long has he been in her life? But it's gonna be one
of those well you guys are living under my roof, it's gonna be my
rules. Yeah. I feel sorry for these kids. I feel sorry for
the kids. I feel sorry for everyone. I also think I don't like
Ryan. I'm no fan of his. I think he's getting a really bad
at it. I don't think he's as bad as they're making him out to
be on the show. I don't know if he cheated or not. I
don't know. I think he's like slimy for sure, but I don't think
he's like he's not Brooks bad. To give you terms of someone you might
remembers. Put a guy who's making money in by weird sunshine on her.
He makes money on sunshine, And how is that not bad? He's not
great. I'm just saying he's not Brooks bad. Brooks was faking cancer.
No, oh, yes, Brooks was fair. I'm saying he's not as
bad as Brooks. Well, yeah, but that's a really low bar,
right, fair enough. I just don't I think I think once the show
decides that someone's going to be the worst, then they're the worst. I'm
not sure. I'm really sold. I'm not sure about Ryan. I'm not
seeing the edit. I'm I'm just taking this off of what other people have
said and the fact that she's moved in with a guy and letting him like
stand there in the kitchen with his arm around her. I'm responding to this
as a person who had a stepfather, Like you don't get a guy to
like help you out financially and then let him stand there in the kitchen with
his arm around you making rules for the kids. Right, Well, yeah,
I mean he's but that's on her as well, which is what you
were saying before that's why I don't do not like her. Yeah, it's
not good. Then Grahams comes over, her parents come over, and she's
fake. She's full on fake cries. You know how I feel about the
fake crying. There's no actual tears. You can tell when someone's crying.
Your nose gets red, face goes crazy. I am the ugliest crier of
all time. I'm not saying everyone has to look like me when you cry,
But there's no tears. She's just doing a cry voice. I don't
know what I would have done without you, and he just saved me.
Keep you're helping me. Okay. Then this was like the line of the
night. The mom goes, honey, you did it yourself, like you
did what you had to do. You did you put in the work by
finding Ryan like that? She does, and she's even mortified. She's like,
no, no, but I did more than that. It wasn't just
finding Ryan. Yeah what else, bitch? What else did you do to
the work by scamming this other guy? Yeah? You found a guy.
I need to take care of you. You found you, You worked hard,
you you know, went online or however you did it. You know,
went to the gym and you found a guy that you could go like,
live at his house and bring all your kids. You got the you's
done. Look at you. You worked out, you got the guy with
the money, good job. So that was maddening. That was perfect.
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okay, so now Heather and Shannon have dinner, right, this is
the next scene where they go. They go sit down to have dinner.
They have these little like they're cold. They're a big scene about can you
move the heat lamps over so that we're on fire? Hea. They always
think she's like so adorable. Now this is weird. Let me ask you
this, sure, between Shannon and Heather, who would you pick first to
be on your team? Heather? Okay, wait my football like a flagged
football team. No, no, no, no, just like you're in
your life. Oh definitely Heather. Ok I like Heather. I just think
she has a bad takee okay, yeah, same. Oh god, she's
condescending and kind of annoying. But I would much. I mean, she's
she's like a hundred times smarter than Shannon. Oh yeah, no, she's
like she's goals. And when she and Gina started becoming friends and then they
actually there was they had a little bit of a fight because, like Heather
always felt like they really reached out to each other. They both have the
New York thing because that's where the East Coast thing, where Heather's originally from
and they bonded because they're too There are two of the smart women on the
show, Emily as well, so they they became friends. And then Heather
was getting mad. I think it was last season because Gina wasn't reaching out
to her. The Heather felt like she had to do all the work and
Gina was sort of like, I I'm sorry, I just have so much
going on. And also Gina always felt like shit every time she left Heather's
house. Heather'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna buzz you in through the
gates. I'm in the screening room, you know that kind of shit.
And Gina'd be like, oh wow, this is pretty big. This is
seventeen thousand square feet. And then she'd feel bad when she'd back to her
life. And I so related to that the Gena story. I was late.
The elevator that goes from your first floor to your patio door was taking
a long time, and it's like I couldn't get to it. And then
you had those these swans and I would get looking and rolling, rapping and
rolling and whatnot. C and D. We should get you remember when you
first got the road caster and we got really excited that we were going to
do some drop drops. Yes, okay, we do our drops. We
need a Sandy CND CNN every time we're trying and that can help us do
our Gina. But that's what happened there. So Heather is So Shannon's like,
uh, I don't really want to hang out with Alexus. You're not
inviting her to some stuff, right, I don't want to be around her.
Right. He's like, yeah, she's been invited, but that's such
bullshit because obviously that's just production. I know you say that they're closed.
I guess that they bonded. They did bond on their kids, but I
don't think that she's that close to Alexis well, is she. I mean,
I would say that the kid thing is probably they were talking a bit
and that's all she says. Heather is basically like, look, I've barely
talked to you talking about Shannon and I have spent I have had a lot
more talks with Alexus. Right. So then so then Shannon gets she gets
pretty pissed off. She gets riled really quickly with Heather and she's like,
I heard that you were talking shit about me. Tamra said you were talking
shit, and Heather's like, I wit, eyes closed, I would never.
I would never. It's like, yeah, you went a little come
on. I mean, she's so convincing, Heather, she really is.
She really looks you in the eye, she does acting exercises, she makes
real good eye contact, and she's like, I you can trust me for
look at me. I look at me. Don't go to sleep, Shannon.
I would never. It's so intense. And then meanwhile, Shannon is
being totally gaslit. To be fair to Shannon for a second, She's like,
what, yes, you would yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like,
no, never, I'm not, Shannon. Look at me, keep
your eyes, your eye, my eye, look at your pupil, put
your pupil on my pupil, and listen to me. I'm not even on
the show. I'm not even a paid person. And Shannon's like, yes
you are. You're on the cast list. If your number on the lake
what is it production list? You're number one. You made them put you
as the first person. No, Shannon, you didn't know what you're talking
about. Terry. We would never. Terry doesn't even exist. You're crazy.
I'm sorry, but you're crazy. Like you no, I know I
will. I want to trust you, but it's going to have to build.
The trust is going to have to build, so don't have to get
my crystals. Guy. Shannon's like, I got to go get some crystal
astrology appointment to deal with this. So then Heather goes, let me ask
you something. Let me put this back on you. Did you or did
you not? Say? I am going to take Heather down. I want
you to be honest. Look into my eyes, do not break eye contact,
and Shannon goes, no, no, no, no, I will.
I was angry with you though, And Heather's likewayay, like's like weird
her bad yees. She'll always like be caught in alive, like do you
or do you not have a dog named Archie? And she's like, no,
I mean I have a dog named Archie. I didn't name him Archie.
It's always the weirdests everybody that his name is Archie. Somebody had him
before me and they named him Archie. Okay, but we just want to
know if that's his current name. Yea, it could be maybe, I
don't know. Talk to John Jansen. That's her big thing. And then
she storms off and you're like, what does that what girl. So yeah,
Soon's like, well, so Shannon tries to turn it back on Heather
and she's like, well, you talked about my relationship and Heather goes,
no, I didn't look at me. I am in trustworthy. Yeah,
she goes, if you tell me something, it stays no, it doesn't.
There's like scenes, there's footage of you, I zipped it through the
way the key. Whatever that's saying is what is it? Locked it?
I don't know, I zipped it through away And Channa's like, but did
you because camera said so. Maybe maybe the problem is Tamera. Maybe they're
both two crazy people, like both gaslighting each other. But at this end
of the day, it really is Tamera talking shit, right, I don't
know. I don't know. I don't know the answer, but I guess
we'll find out. So then Gina is this one? Gina and Katie?
Is it? Gena and Katie and Heather We have a conversation at some point
because I just have to go look and see. What that's saying is is
close, zip it, lock it, and thow away the key. There
it is zip it, lock it and throw away the key. Okay,
uh yeah, So Gina, Katie and Emily Emily are going to happen there
first. Yeah, And Gina's like, so I met up with Shannon there
it is I mid Shannon and Jen, and she wondered why Emily knew about
her eviction. And then Gina goes, well, she put it on Instagram.
Put she put it on the Instagram. What am I supposed to know?
How am I not supposed to know that? Sandy. Gina's like a
big madch She's like, that bitch needs up shifting blame to me and take
responsibility for her own shit. She's getting herself super riled, which finally brings
us to the scene. Finally we've been waiting for of Gina and Jen meeting
for coffee. Yeah, they're gonna meet for coffee, and yet Gina's real
mad. She gets there first and orders her coffee, does not ask if
she wants to get her anything, doesn't get her any man. Okay,
that was the best, And that is such a girl thing. That is
such a girl moment that I knew you and I would bond about. It's
like, if you're happy to see somebody, you're gonna you're gonna text him
and be like, what can I order you? Of course you're not gonna
just order for yourself and go, Yeah, I got myself a fucking chocolate
croissant and a coffee. Get your own shit, bitch. Well, not
only that, she doesn't even get up, SOA's bring let's set the scene.
She's heard, you know, still a little scraggly. Although she looks
really good. She got some very good work done on her face. She
looks gorgeous, Gina, but she's wearing this hat and I don't I don't
want to make the hats cap. It's like, okay, yeah, nea,
var dollas. Remember when I got I bought that hat from north Strum
and I took a picture in it sent it to you because I love that
hat. Uh huh, And you were like, no, absolutely not,
because I'm not one of those people who will be like, yes, girl,
cut those bangs. Yeah it's true. And look, you weren't the
only one about that particular hat. I'm a hat girl, so please don't
get me like I will wear a hat. I can wear hats. I
wear them, well, yes, but that one I was really like trying
to do a thing, which is what Gina was doing. And it's hard.
We're talking like, yeah, a chauffeur's hat, but a really hard
top, a really like flat hard top that you could like set a drink
on. Yes, oversized, and then like the dazzled kind of in the
front. It had like blink on the front. Yeah. Yeah, it
was tacky and expensive. I know that hat because I bought that hat and
then when I returned it to Nordstrom, because I was like, I never
wore it. I just wore it to like see if people would, you
know, took pictures in it when I brought it back. This is one
of the first times like the guy nors was like, good call. They
actually said it. They're like, yeah, good on that. So that's
Gina's hat. So she is going and hard because she's got herself all worked
up on the way to this coffee. Yeah. But then let's also set
the scene for Jen pulling up in her brand new Range Rover, stopping the
car, hopping out. She's wearing I thought this before Gina even said it.
She's wearing completely like high fashion new clothes. She's clearly like just had
her hair, did she made up face? She had probably as she had
a glam team do her makeup, like she looks like she's going to a
modeling shoot. Oh yeah, And Gina's watching her come in and like oh
hell no, hell no. She doesn't even stand up, she's just like
yeah. She's like, oh, I see you already order and she's like,
yeah, go get your coffee, Go get your coffee. Come back,
like she's she doesn't offer like, oh, let me get you something,
so sorry, let me grab our waitress or something. No, she's
like, go pay for it yourself. She makes a point to say that,
yeah, go pay for your coffee. So she's mad. So Gina
comes back, and I mean Jen comes back and Gina just looks pissed,
which I was happy. I'm like okay, so oh, but they do
have to give each other a little side hug because it's very awkward and there's
no way around that, and Gina's not a monster, so she kind of
has to anyway. Yeah. But then so then Jen's like so, then
Gina goes what's going on with you? Which was kind of aggressive, and
Jen goes, hmm, well, I mean there's a lot going on,
but like I don't I'm wondering, like why you're mad? And then what's
up? Yeah, and Gina goes, well, isn't it obvious like you
moved into that house and like you didn't pay your rent and like it fucked
me over and I bounced for you. I vow Sandy, I vounce for
you. So she's pissed off about that, and then Jen is one of
my least favorite things. Oh, this is your line? You like?
Which is what is your thing? What are you gonna say? I love
that? When she goes, well, do you think I moved into that
house thinking like let me fuck up? Gina? No, that wasn't it.
When she was like okay, she sort of says that, And then
Gina, which we've talked about before, but Gina's like, you can't.
You got to give a look at you all glammed You're all glammed up.
You spending all this money, but you can't. You're gonna fuck me over
with rent, but you're glammed up and whatever, and she says, I
don't know if she said it to her or in the confessional. Jen,
she's in the confessional, what was the exact line? She goes, just
because my life is falling apart doesn't mean my hair needs to look like shit
like hers did, which it did. I mean it was a good line.
I'm sorry it was a good line. It was rude and wrong and
like I'm not team Gen, but it was it was so true. But
that's the bile thing, which is that like Jen does not take any responsibility.
She thinks she's smart. She's like, yeah, I have a rich
dad, and I got a guide to fucking pay my bills, Like why
do I have to pay back rent? Like you know on you math that
we miss something. I think there was something in editing word that they didn't
show us, because Gina goes from zero to a billion. No, they
showed her. You just missed some parts. Because Jen goes the whole thing,
well, I'm just saying in the in the in the going over it,
Jen's like, do you think I moved into that house? Like trying
to fuck you over, and Gina goes, no, I don't think you
think at all. And then she's like, when you sign a contract,
you have to honor the contract. You can't just not pay your rent,
like this is my career, this is my new career. I need this
money. And then Jen completely shifts blame and goes, well, you shouldn't
run your mouth about my personal business. And that's when Gina's like, bitch,
you put it on Instagram. You put that shit on Instagram. That's
how she knew about it. That's how Gina even found out about it,
because she's a victim. She's like, I'm getting evicted and because for good
reason, because you didn't pay your rent. She's trying to victimize herself by
going I'm getting evicted as if it's for no reason. And then it comes
out that she owes all this money, and then she's mad that people don't
feel sorry for her that like on the gossip pages and stuff, people are
like, bitch owes a lot of people, a lot of money, and
she just doesn't pay her bills. Well here's something, here's a little tidbit
for you. I'm so team you. I agree with you, and I'm
team Gina. I like her. I thought she was a little much in
this episode, but I do like her. I'd totally hang with Gina.
If Gina's listening, we want you on the show, We want to live
with you in many ways. But on the watch what Happens, Andy had
Jen and Ryan Sirhan from a million dollar listing as the new show selling Manhattan
and I don't know why I'm plugging that's so hard. You can catch him
on Bravo on Wednesday nights. I love Ryan. I don't know if you
watched the shows, but I fucking love that shit. And he was very
team gen He thought the Gena was being ridiculous and real empathy. Yeah,
I mean maybe because he was next to gen but he tells it like it
is. He's not. I mean, he's no Jeff Lewis. He's a
really nice, nice guy, but he's not. I don't think he's gonna
bullshit and well maybe a little, but I don't know. It felt he
was very on her side about all that. I don't understand. Well,
I do think at this point, Gina is starting to really project, like
that she had to go through some shit, because this is where GENA I
think overstepped a bit. She's just like, you need to get your shit
together. You got to pay your bills, like you don't want to hear
the truth, Like why are you getting your hair and your makeup done and
getting new clothes when you owe money for your rent? And then she's like,
why don't you like why aren't you teaching yoga? You can like teach
an outside yoga class, and then Jen is just like, don't fucking tell
me what to do, Like, my personal life is none of your business.
And that's when she says to camera, just because my life is falling
apart doesn't mean my hair needs to look because she's like, you're getting your
hair done, get a glam squad, and she's like, well, yeah,
my hair doesn't have to look like shit like yours did, which,
by the way, I mean the only reason, like Gina's Matt, I
don't think she'd do that otherwise, but yeah, it was on her.
She lost fifty thousand dollars in this deal. That's money to her. She
bouched for her, and when she was broke, she was really broke,
Like she didn't have just some random guy. I mean, she got the
guy that she's now breaking up with again, you know, to kind of
take her in or whatever to be with. But he wasn't rich, right,
Travis. Yeah, Yeah, She's like I had to actually be poor
on the show and move my kids into like two bedrooms, and like I
wasn't able to just hire glam squads. And I think her point is like,
and you really shouldn't either, because you could take that money and pay
your bills, right, I agree. I agree. Another thing I'm gonna
tell you from the watch what happens that Jen said? Andy asked her.
He was like, do you think that Jesus jugs well, he says,
a Lexus, you think Alexis and John Jansen are going to get married?
And she's like, one hundred percent, absolutely, it's done. Deals gonna
happen. So we have that to look forward. To. Shannon's point,
I hope Shannon finds a new guy. Let's mind Shannon a guy. Oh
my god, she's a train wreck there again, they're really like, I'm
saying this about Gina, but there's slim pickens on who to read? I
know, I know who to root for. Okay, so who do we
have? So far? We have Heather, I guess Gina. Maybe Emily
won't piss me off this season. And we don't know what Katie's new Katie,
we don't really know what her storyline is so far. She's just being
Greek chorus and we like her so far. So here's hoping. So that's
not bad for Orange County. We've got four people we would hang out with
in real life. That's not bad. I mean, I don't know if
I would hang out with Katie. She hasn't you know. All we know
about her is she has a bunch of kids that don't live with her and
that you know, I don't know. Well, you're about to find out.
Go to your back door. Put a pause because you have a surprise
for you, Katie. Come on out. You're gonna live with Stephanie for
a while and just see if you guys can if we get to be besties.
We got a podcast ward with Yeah. So basically the end of this
episode is Gina is so mad. She's gotten herself so riled up that she
even looks at production and she's like, I'm sorry, I can't do this
scene. I'm out of here. She's ridiculous. She's ridiculous, and I
don't know if it was quite the flex she thought it was, you know
what I mean, because Jen was like, I'm here trying to make a
buck, you know, doing my scene like I said I would, And
Gina's like, well, you're not going to spend that buck on your rent.
You owe your rent. Like it is a little crazy. Everybody's a
little Yeah, I wouldn't want to be on the end of either of those
people talking to me, any of them really. Man, this was a
long episode. It was a long episode. There's a lot. It's going
to be quite the season. I promise you. We will get the Gina
accent down eventually, or we won't. If anybody has some tips on that,
aside from going through Travolta, yeah, racking rolling, Yeah, there's
got to be a better way, but we'll find it, all right.
Thanks everybody so much, Love you guys. See you on Tuesday for The
Bachelor. Yeah,