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I'm joined at Federalist HQ by Christopher Bedford of The Blaze. You can sign
up for his newsletter at the Blaze dot com slash Bedford. Chris, Welcome
to the show. What a good memory. I know, right the Blaze
dot com slash Bedford. It's amazing that that domain existed, that someone hadn't
purchased it and put something actually kind of would have been a funny prank.
But anyway, we are awaiting a potential decision. This is sort of the
yelp in the room. The world could change at any moment. As Chris
said, when he walked in here and I told him maybe we would air
this podcast tomorrow, he said, no, we must address could second yes,
well, it could go into next week, or the former president of
the United States could be convicted with I think his sentence could be up to
four years in prison at literally any moment. The jury is literally out as
we're speaking, deliberating, and you know, even if the potential conviction comes
out today or acquittal, which I think is highly unlikely, and I'm sure
you agree with me on that, Chris, but even if that comes out
today, there's still a lot of things to talk about, because there are
a lot of things we know, and Chris, I'll just start here with
maybe your retrospective on what we saw play out in this courtroom in the last
several weeks. I mean, we saw a show trial, essentially, the
kind of thing that's designed to isolate somebody, to pull them, to make
them appear powerless, to make them a peer weak, to try to listen
often to embarrass them, to try to list off all the different things that
they're guilty of. Usually it's not with a show trials. You don't need
to get into specifics, as we've certainly seen with this crime or these allegations.
This judge's decisions. I mean, I think we've seen a judge who
at first appeared a little wary of being appealed, but got more confident at
the end and has probably decided by the time we've got into jury instructions,
which I think potentially will run a foul of the constitution. He doesn't care
anymore. What do you mean by the potentially run a follow of the constitution,
Well, he gave specific instruction. I think the prosecution was already pushing
things to their limit by taking falsifying the books, which is a misdemeanor that
was outside of the statute of limitations and upgrading it to a federal offense.
Not a federal offense because a felony to try to make to try to charge
him still that was outside of the statute limitations. So they studied COVID,
which I guess New York is allowed to put it within the statute limitations.
And the reason when they were able to upgrade it to that felony is because
they said it was done in the committment in committing another crime, and they
never we were waiting for months for the prosecution to say what that crime was,
and they kind of hinted that it was an election crime, right,
which would be violation that's outside of their jurisdiction, and that he's not charged
with and he's not charged with it. But then so that was already very
strange and already really pushing it and already grounds for appeal. But then to
have the judge instruct the jurors that they don't even need to agree on what
that crime, what that object crime that turns this, turns this misdemeanor into
a felony, is in order to convict I mean, the sixth Amendment to
the Constitution says that people have the right to know what they're being charged with,
sure, and to know what they're accused of, to face their accusers,
to know what they're being accused of, et cetera. And I don't
think it's a stretch to say that Donald Trump does not know what he's accused
of, and the judge says the jury doesn't even even really need to decide
what he's accused of in order to convict him. And the judge, by
the way, whose daughter is a very prominent democratic consultant basically whose clients have
included Adam Schiff. I think one of the clements was Dan Goldman. This
is what kicked off that spectacular cat fight between Marjorie Taylor Green and who else
was it? AOC got in the mix. It was a lot of fun.
I can't remember who else was in it. Who Marjorie tail The textas
Congressman that Marjorie Taylor Green is making fun of her nails. Crockett, Is
that right? Yeah? Right, yeah? Whatever? It was fun.
Had perfectly fair questions about whether or not one or's daughter is financially tied to
people in the committee. Well, Sean Davis, I think said it perfectly.
I was wondering, I got this judge at this point, but the
time he's issuing what seems to be really strange, at least very novel to
put. I think that's the way MSNBC going. No whole legal theory which
made up how was he going to survive this? I mean, this is
going to go. This is going to go past the simple New York Appllic
Court, This is going to go to the Supreme Court, these sorts of
things eventually, of course, well the immunity cases already at the Supreme Court,
and that's invited the slew of crazy stories about the flags outside of the
legal home, as we talked about last night or last week, and Amy
Conny Barrett's Husband's business dealings, to which are apparently the new thing, but
that have nothing to do with any of the case. I think Sean was
correct to say that Judge Marchon could retire after this. He can write an
extremely lookrative book deal, He'll get paid a lot of money, and he
could slink into a C and N or MSNB see contributorship make some good cash.
There. Didn't just not be held accountable because he's got friends who will
back him up. His job here is not to stay on the bench for
life. It's not to not be investigated. His job here is to deliver
a conviction. And it seems from every step of the way of this trial
that he has he has stayed laser focused on delivering delivering that conviction. I
think one of the most insane things that Byron York is really zeroed in on
over and over again at the Washington Examiner is blocking expert testimony from a former
Federal Elections Commission Commissioner chairman who said that who said that there's no way that
hush money counts as campaign finance, as a campaign contribution. His whole thing
was that this has been figured out before that yes, saying fit, eating
salads, quitting smoking, getting the liposeuction to the case or some kind of
body surgey in the case of some of the heavier mail candidates have done in
the past. Those things could all be called campaign contributions, but they're not
buying a house in the state, as Hillary Clinton did in New York,
so she could run for a Senate that was not an illegal campaign contribution,
even though it was only done to run for Senate. There's no other it's
not even like a second house. Like. The reason for this was to
make it necessary. It was a necessary step to run for Senate. That
didn't count as an illegal campaign contribution, So why with this? And that
was barred by this judge. But if the judgesn't intend to stick around,
the judges intends to become another celebrity having delivered. So here's here's my problem.
I'm writing two different essays on this right now, depending on where it
goes, But the crux of the first one stands even if there's a hung
jury, which I would say, if these deliberations go for much longer,
then it's probably going to be a hung jury, would be my guess.
If we have two three four day we're recording this around noon on Thursday,
deliberations and you're looking at that and what does that mean going forward? That
means it means they either decided to try him again, or are they don't.
I mean it's but either way, it means it's not decided before the
election, which is the goal of this, right, which is why they
threw everything at the wall to see what would stick. All of these other
court cases that they wanted to be tried, they knew that they weren't all
going to be on a timeline that would be tried before the election. Brags
was the first, I think that we knew was really going to be brought
because that's you know, an important part of this is, and I think
it's getting lost in the mix, is that when Bragg's case was brought,
he ran on a get Trump platform and no one took it seriously at first.
That is when Trump's numbers in the Republican primary started to climb and DeSantis
has started to decline. So actually this did happen. Everyone's like, you
know, saying, is probably there's all these polls showing that it's effect on
the election so far at least has been minimal, and like in the general
election, that's true, But this we might not have had the general election
that we had without Alvian Bragg opening the floodgates. And you know, I
think this, all of this was inevitable. It was always going to happen.
So it's sort of a silly hypothetical, but he really did influence the
Republican primary. And just because we're past it doesn't mean we should forget that
there was an actual political outcome of his politics. And Democrats weren't that bullish
on this at first. They thought that this was the dumb case. Many
of them still, I mean in the New York Times, there was an
about in the New York Times a couple of weeks ago saying, you know,
I was so wrong about the Alvian Bragg case, like this one sucks.
The case is not it's not good. And I wanted to zero on
the point that you made about to change their minds on that though, because
it looks like it's the only one that's going to go before the election,
and it looks like it's likely that they're going to get a conviction. And
Adiy McCarty's right case exactly, and Andy McCarthy said that that's because of the
way that Judge Wan Marshawn and Andy McCarthy is not pro Trump by any stretch
of the imagination. So anybody thinks this analysis is colored by that is being
ridiculous. But that because of the way the judge, whose daughter is a
Democratic consultant, allowed the child to proceed, that it was rigged in favor
of the prosecution and against Donald Trump because he allowed all of these novel legal
maneuverings to stand, et cetera, et cetera. And let's combine that with
the reality that even MSNBC, to your point Chris, is saying, this
is a quote novel legal theory, which you know they will concede because they'll
do it to congratulate alb and Bag, like, Oh, look at how
novel this legal theory is that you're using to get Trump. So anytime you're
using a novel legal theory to get the former president of the United States on
a partisan basis, you're in trouble. And as much as i'd like to,
you know, lock white collar criminals up, do it on a non
partisan basis, please, because there's a fine line. And if you're on
one side of that line and you're doing a non partisan basis, great,
We have a rule of law if you're doing it on a partisan basis.
We haven't been at republic. Yeah, And that's that's kind of the issue
here is it's it's going to be annoying to see all the correct shouts of
hypocrisy and unfair, because I mean, those are just the shrill yells of
people who aren't in power, Like my eight year old yells unfair. I
don't care. He's usually right who he's often he often is it's not who
cares about fairness? Fairness complaining about fairness as a child's thing to do.
Complaining about hypocrisy is the adult version of a child complaining about fairness. Who
cares? I mean. A friend of mine met with Trump in the summer
of twenty twenty in the Oval office and said to him, he said,
you know, regardless of what happens in the selection, eventually you'll leave office,
and uh, they're going to come after you. They're gonna they're gonna
take your money, they're gonna take your property, they're gonna go after your
kids, which I haven't really done as much yet. Uh, they're gonna
try and put you in prison. And he said, he said that Trump
looks shocked and like kind of afraid, Like he said, one of the
only one of the only two times you ever saw Trump look right about something,
And it kind of fits into this. One of Trump's blind sides if
a serial administrators first administration is he really didn't seem to understand just how much
people were go, how far people were going to go to hurt him,
how far the state would go, how far the Pentagon would go to disobey
him, how far intelligencies would come to destroy him, to how his how
his own staff and administration would work with all stratut of society at some points
to stop him. Right, Like Chris Ray, I think he was initially
pretty supportive of Camy things like that. Yeah, and he thought that,
Okay, I'll hire some generals. He was always really impressed with generals,
and I'll put them in charge, and I'll tell them some things and I'll
treat some things and they'll do it. And it's like Matt Dog Kelly John
Bolton from the Neo kon Flank. Yeah, eventually even brought in Bolton.
I think he just consistently underestimated this and this is an example of that.
I mean, they're coming at him they're going to get him if not this
and something else is really He's kind of correct to have looked out a year
and a half ago and seeing that the only safe space if we're going to
play kids games, the only base where you can't get tagged is the White
House. I can get there as fast as possible. But this is the
reality of the power dynamics of the country, and really the only thing standing
in the way of it is the Supreme Court is the only institution with any
kind of power really left in the country, and it's not even reliable.
Well, I don't think that's going to I mean, sadly, I really
think because we're in such a climate of institutional distrust that the attacks, the
drum beat, the onslaught that has coordinated opposition research being eaten up by the
elite press is going to work to totally demolish what's left of public trust in
the Supreme Court. I think it is going to be effective. That's terrifying,
but it's something that we have to It's a reality we have to grapple
with. You know, to your point about Donald Trump himself, everyone saw
what happened to Richard Nixon, and we look back on it as sort of
a noble act that Gerald Ford pardoned him, even though people weren't super happy
about it at the time. And I just as a country, it takes
a while to sink in, even though some there's some voices crying out in
the wilderness, like they were with campuses for years until twenty twenty, and
people looked around and they were like, whoa, these campuses are a little
out of control, Like why do these students really want to tear down those
statues of abolitionists. It's like yes, and yes, they will put the
former president of the United States in jail, and they will not want to
pardon. They will keep him there. Nobody's pardoning him, and he could
go to rikers. He could be convicted of multiple cases. Nobody really knows
what happens next. But if I hear one more boomers say well it was
or something to sorry about that, it's like shut up. If he gets
convicted and the judge calls for presidents going to prison, well, secret Service
has something to say about that. What are we talking about war? I
mean, seriously, are we talking about a outbreak of civil war? Seriously?
What does that mean? Yeah, I think things are getting really really
ugly in a way that we're not prepared for. And I don't think we're
prepared for this conviction to come down, like all of the polling ahead of
it. Fine, it's useful, but asking people how they're going to feel
about a former president being convicted, we don't know, we don't. White
House is already preparing to change their social media to change the former president's title
to convicted fellon Donald Trump, and that's the hope, is that they'll scare
white women. I mean, the White House is kind of just they're freaked
out by the polls. The calls are getting shriller and shriller every day.
In the press from this week, it was a political article that there's a
full blown meltdown going on with the Democratic Party over Joe Biden and is sinking
poone numbers, that they're freaked out by the rising phone numbers for Trump with
blacks and Hispanics. They're freaked out even though they're presenting not to me.
By the rally through New York. That was widely attended that the even the
press had to look out and say, it's largely white, but it's still
a rather diverse crowd, like you and even they had to say that so
good. And now you've got this which is kind of their ace in the
hole, and you have Joe Biden going out with Kamala Harris and a rare
of joint appearance, you know. Oh yeah, we have a black VP
going out and and listing off all of the crimes that Donald Trump has committed
against black people, apparently claims that he denies them rent it was like a
slum lord, all these different sorts of things about Trump. They used that
in twenty sixteen. Yeah, they did. So they're doubling down on the
darkest of the great Unifier, the Great console or the return to normalcy,
is doubling down on the absolute darkest aspects of Oh no, we're losing the
blacks. Better tell them that Donald Trump is a slave lord. Oh no,
we're losing democracy. Better imprison the political op position. And yeah,
I think it's part of the panic and part of the will to power the
Democrats have that you do not see on the American right. And I just
think that it's about to get I'll just say this again. I'd only we're
prepared. I don't think we know how the country is going to react.
It's one of those things where it's like, you know, maybe the first
time somebody goes on TV and they're really prepared and they go on and they
bomb. It's like, you can prepare for something like that all you want.
You don't know what's going to happen on the day. No, because
actually, you know what, it's funny that you say that, because you
are the reason I actually give you credit. I was leaving a YAFF conference
when I worked there to go to Fox, and the last person I talked
to before I left was you, and you told me ask them to keep
the monitor off and you'll be fine. And when I got in there,
I didn't really know what that meant because I had never done it before.
And when I got in there, sure enough, I said, hey,
could you turn that monitor off? Worked like a charm perfect, Thanks kill
Yeah, thanks Chris. It was like ten years ago. Oh we were
young then, Well done, well done, yes, But anyway, you
never know. It's one of those things that's like you just you can prepare
for it. You never know how the country is actually going to react,
and you know, we didn't know how the country was going to react.
On January sixth, basically, nobody expected, even the people who were like
monitoring social media, nobody knew what was going to happen. And sadly,
I think we're I don't think it's an unknown in a good direction. I
think it's an unknown in a really really scary direction. And even I mean,
I don't think there's acquittals coming. I'd be happy to be like,
oh, look at that doom saying guy, he's wrong, but uh no,
I don't think so. I think it's coming. I don't think anybody
does. And a hung jury is basically the best of the defense you can
really hope for on this. And then I mean, it's it's, as
I say, it's novel legal theory territory. So we just will see where
it goes, which, by the way, is one thing if you're trying
a normal case. It's another thing if you're trying to form a president of
the United States. I mean, it's kind of interesting if you're trying to
put away al Capone, Yeah, which is really what they think they're doing.
Well, yeah, it's why we've like, it's why we tolerated Rico,
because people are like, well, it's being used against really bad guys.
And then you Look at what these prosecutors do with Rico. You look
what Fanny Willis does. Fannie Willis does with Rico, And you're like,
you can call her Fanny if you want. Give me a break. Well,
I've accidentally called her Fanny forever because he is Fanny her text message nicknames
are far weirder than that. Really, I haven't even I've read some of
them. Oh man, in court, I'm not even gonna this is a
children This is a children's show. This is a children show. You're telling
me now. Yet sometimes I do warnings about adult content, saying, you
know, I don't want to if you're listening to the car with your kids,
I want to skip to the next one, which makes me feel like
Tipper Gore. You know you didn't laugh at that was to for Gore,
the one who wanted the parental warnings on the front of CDs. Yeah,
she wanted to put people like you in jail. People don't know this about
Chris. He was a He had like blue spiky hair punk rockers. Yeah
yeah, cool, yeah, hell yeah hell yeah. Okay. So uh,
not moving on from this, but moving into the future again, there's
a lot we don't know. That's going to happen. But Chris, I
just think, you know, Trump is fighting quite literally for his freedom in
the selection, and he knows it. And I think there's a good chance
that if he's convicted, and if he's sentenced to three months, it actually
helps him because the chaos is then going to be coming from Biden. People
aren't like, oh finally he just people are going to see that if you
put Trump in jail, you give Trump even more of a platform. He's
going to be calling in from Prisone. Well he's going to I mean,
he's going to be all over the media. Still you can't do that.
He's still going to be all over You have all the other cases that he's
in court for, because you're not going to get rid of those. And
either way, there's going to be more chaos, not less as a result
of them putting Trump in prison. I mean, the Northern Irish usedter every
now and then elects elects somebody who is in prison in the British Parliament.
Remember Don Blankenship in West Virginia. Yeah, yeah, I mean one British
member of Parliament died on hunger strike and in British prison. That's uh,
you know, This turned out to be very bad pr for for the British
government to have that happen, at at least in what Ireland there was.
Okay, So what you're saying that it's gonna be bad peer for Trump,
I think it'd well, I think it'd be good pr for Trump. Generally,
it's been very bad for the Republic. Trump's got a good feeling on
this too. Other I think at this moment he's actually worried and tired,
and it's it's really insane that the judge is not even letting him go home,
but it's making him wait in the courthouse for the jury to the liberate.
That's just constant and dignities that these people that the judges is push is
pushing on Trump. But you know, he kind of always knew it was
kind of his stick that bad press is good press. He wrote about this
in his first book, and then people wrote about it later in his later
books. But I mean, there's one story when the Trump Tower came out
and a better opened in New York, and a better place that was nicer
opened nearby with lower prices, and his guy's panicked, and he was like,
keep the prices up. People will think that it's nicer. That's how
I ended up paying like a quarter of a million dollars for college, because
the president of GW is like, people will think we're fancier if we just
increased the price. Yeah, you went. You went to American University for
people who are impressed by price tags. Yes, that's it. Well done
to both of us, Well done. We both made such good decisions as
eighteen year olds. I went to American University. Don't You don't have as
many choices as you'd think when you get expelled from high school and then almost
got expelled from college almost almost close only counts. Of course she was in
Hagernads, but we don't speak of that. Yeah, I mean, this
is an easy thing that gloss over. But Biden is campaigning, and he
did in twenty twenty on decency and normalcy, and that's his main pitch,
that Donald Trump is a chaotic and malignant force. And it's so much harder
to make that case when your party just you know, we're recording this to
the likely conviction. But you know, either way, people are going to
the polls and what they want to do is just freaking vote, you know,
like they don't want to weigh on their minds that one of these candidates
is in prison. Like nobody wants that. I mean, maybe you know,
some chunk of the dem base wants that. People I just mean like
no, but I mean most of the country doesn't want to speaking to But
who is that? Yeah, answer that question. This is a great question.
Who's speaking? Who is Robin? The hardcore Manhattan Democrats? I don't
really know. It was obviously a dumb decision by the campaign. Doesn't have
down there. Kind of reminded me of the uh, the Clint Eastwood speech
in twenty twelve. The chair, Yeah, because I went, I went
about the security, I stood in the balcony. I was like, all
right, this is going to be a clinic. Stwood's going to deliver this
crushing blow for what ended up being the most embarrassing vote of my life from
it Romney, But no one could hear him, and he was just kept
on gesturing. No one in the in the citium could hear him. TV
kept on this gesturing towards this chair is Tampa. Yeah, in Tampa.
They reminded me of that with the just an elderly man yelling at a chair
in Tampa. That's funny is Sarah Bedford remembers that as like a real pumpy
up moment she got. She was going Sarah's college politics are hysterical. She's
got she remember, so we went to school together. She wrote for the
Wall Street Journal. Yeah you know what you know? She said for The
Street Journal. Yeah, I forget exactly what it is, but ye don't
embarrass her. It was something that really it was something a little cringe.
It was just very college Republican, it was. It was but hey,
I haven't done that, so good for her. But there's a subset of
people like the folks who friends of mine, like family of mine who kicks
me and my friends out of their house because I made a joke about by
kind of being now and then like destroyed dinner. It was like cursing.
There were kids at the table like curse you, curse you, how dare
you? You will not like in this at this house? Like those are
the people. Then when Robert DeNiro comes out and says nine to eleven almost
destroyed the city. We're not going to let Donald Trump destroy the city.
He's going to destroy this country. Donald Trump will destroy the world. And
this is funny. He was like reading off of a script too, like
bad reading with people honking their horns, really dumb stuff like Donald Trump will
destroy America. He had to write that down. Imaginally, I was sitting
him, sitting at his multimillion dollar home in the suburbs, being like Donald
like writing it down. Oh, this is a good speech. I can't
remember the address. Yeah, short and sweet, like you're like proud of
his Wife's like what are you doing. He's like, I'm busy. I'm
right speech writing. Yeah, he's got like an infant four month old somewhere
in the house. Oh that's de Niro. Yeah, I forgot about the
narrow keeps on having kids in not even like the natural way. She's a
dog. He's a strange dude. Yeah, strange dude. But you're making
up actually an interesting point that it's somewhere in the Biden campaign or maybe you
know what, Maybe it was this, Maybe it was de Niro asking to
speak, because sometimes that happens with celebrities. But someone in the Biden campaign
they're like, hey, let's either get de Niro or well let them speak,
And then they brought the January sixth guys out right, So they brought
fenon and Harry Dunn was Tuesday, the fraudulent j six hero so just lost
his congressional primary. Tuesday in Manhattan. They had de Niro getting jeered and
honked at. You had Harry Dunn, Michael Fanone trying to make this very
very very twenty twenty reducts argument that this is about decency, democracy, normalcy,
civility. And it worked, you know, on the margins in twenty
twenty. It got those suburban voters one one Wisconsin could be delivered well.
And also, by the way, that version of Joe Biden wasn't lock Donald
Trump up Joe Biden. It was I am America's grandfather, Joe Biden.
And if you're running this campaign for the MSNBC viewers, I do think you
are alienating. I don't think they understand the consequence. Also saying on the
border of Joe Biden, that's the reason why the Democrats party put everything behind
him when the primaries, because everyone else up there is like, we should
decriminalize it insane. On the economy, everyone else was Medicare for all,
and he was the one holdout on Medicare for all, and so people were
like, I just one promise that that's one thing he didn't go back on,
but everything else he's he's running as the far left person. So even
when you go out there and say, like as Joe Biden said of Paul
Ryan, him around me, he's going to put you all back in chains.
Another actual quote from The Man of Decency, Yes twelve. It's like
black people were citizens of the United States when Donald Trump was president for four
years. Debatable. They kidding, That's what NBC will say. There are
a lot of people just like, just like everyone else, remember that things
were better. Well, I mean the economy is on the analyzes and sort
of the left. They'll say, oh, but look at how the economy
tanked in twenty twenty. And it's like you blameing Trump now for COVID,
which is all of the fear Maundery doesn't work as well. When people feel
like things are bad now and we're good, then I'm fine potentially blaming the
Trump administration for COVID. Because this was happening, this research was these grants
were well I guess the grant, but well, the grants were being enacted
on the walk to the Trump administration. And this is a full circle to
the beginning of what you were talking about, Chris, is how Donald Trump
sort of underestimated the depth of the deep state. You know, how deep
the corruption went, all the way over to a lab in Wuhan that was
that had grants from the American taxpayers. You probably needed to be russ vote
to be worried about the money going to who at that point exactly and before
the administration were doing it. But it probably seems like something he would know,
but not enough rest votes in the world. It's the staff a future
drump administration or to save America. Yeah, so anyway, I'm my prediction
is that things are about to get dark, and I think you share up
the prediction. Chris, Yeah, I'm fairly down. I mean, let's
say he's not convicted. It's a hung Jerry, Yeah, let's say that.
Okay, it's hypothetical he wins the election and as president okay himself,
we're still in more trouble than four years of a Donald Trump administration can fix.
Hmm. Yeah, that's true. Well, what but be great memes,
great laws, The excitement of those four years will be back. Chris
is ready to fit tears the tiers across college campus, we'll be funny again
as opposed to like slightly disconcerting. I don't know, I see. I
actually I genuinely don't agree with that, because I just think if we if
we had one version of well, we had the twenty twenty riots, which
were violent, and you know, literally dozens of people died, even though
the media never talks about it, but dozens of people died as a result
of anti police violence in twenty twenty, anti anti Trump, anti police,
and race violence, race violence in twenty twenty. You know, people died
as a result of January sixth, but the capital was literally sacked. You
know, I'm not an insurrection part. I don't call that an insurrection.
Shot January six A woman was shot on January sixth trying to get in the
Senate chamber like a veteran. I was like the only person at the Federals
who thought that if you try to like blast into the Senate chamber during a
violent riot when you're being told to stop, you might get shot. You
might get shot, Yes, and well not, I don't think you were
the only person who thought that, but it was it was such a I
mean, we could we don't need to get back into that. But I
just really think now that there's a conviction that you know, either outcome is
going to be something that ratchet's up tension. You know. I don't think
the sort of suburban MSNBC extreme Biden partisans are going to be the ones rioting,
but I think they're going to stir the pot that you know, just
like twenty twenty brings people out into the streets. Absolutely, I say that
you just need teenage animals to go out there and start looting. A lot
of the people who are out there riding don't have a local purpose for every
like for every white girl and Lululemon shorts or pants, screaming that the black
police officer is a racist. Actually there's six people just want to like get
into the Gucci store. That's the real chaos or Yeah, I think,
yeah, January sixth was more political probably for most of the people that were
there, like they yeah, it was different. Yeah, it was different.
But sadly my predictions that were just going to see a lot more of
that. I'm not saying it'll be every day, even though it kind of
was rolling throughout the summer of twenty twenty. But you always see that beler.
When when political violence becomes dominant in history, it's always something beforehand.
It's little things that start to build up, to build up oscillates back of
the leading Kansas John Brown. Yeah, yeah, the violence just builds.
Even in Rome, I think it was like fifty years before political violence was
standard, or maybe about fifty sixty years after the surround of assassinations. It
just kind of just it never really recovered. Violence entered politics in a way
that's it doesn't come back from before there's a large reset. Yeah, yeah,
no, I think that's right. It's that's all I was saying about
how the memes will be funny again. It's like, well, I guess,
but it's going to be harder to laugh at them. Oh you have
to take the Roger Stone tactic, which is Roger Stone and makes a tattoo
on your back. He understands that the world is on fire, and he's
determined to enjoy himself. The world is on fire. I'm also determined to
enjoy myself. I just can't guarantee that I'm always going to be in the
mood. Christopher Bedford, anything else you want to add to this discussion While
we await the jury results. Hi, I'd love to be wrong. I'd
love to be wrong, all right, all right, I sadly hope I'm
wrong on that too, because I think I agree with you on that point.
But Christopher Bedford has the newsletter going so far it's excellent. We're up
to three days a week now. Whoa Okay, you were originally just going
to do one. Originally one, and then by the time I launched it
was two, and now it's three. And it's all because of my wife.
She keeps on saying, push, push yourself. It's not the people
clamoring for It's actually been great. It's been kind of it's been flattering how
many people have come up to me instead, I've been really enjoying it or
known specifics about it and way that they wouldn't have to and folks reaching out,
and it's been great. It's been a lot of fun. And I'm
that kind of person who might have a two week assignment and then we're just
like in college, I would just take a bunch of adderall and stay up
all night cramming for it the night before and know I had two weeks,
so I work well on deadlines and holy smokes, that's deadline. I have
to get this out Monday, Wednesday Friday. So now I'm trying to write
too right now, And as Sarah points out, I probably need to get
a little bit better at time management. Well, you know, I like
the three week I think that's a great pace. It's not making you stuff
it with filler like Playbook and punch Bowl often do. And you just really
smartly cornered something in the market. So well done, Chris, thanks a
lot yep the Blaze dot com lash Bedford. Make sure to sign up for
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