WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.439 He took my cologne. I started to lose it. Every situation had a 2 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:07.599 price to pay. I threatened to massacre the local borrow once and then columbid 3 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:10.480 and gave him to mind. He made hate so exciting. All my friends 4 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:13.439 were worried I was going to kill him. When my brother was doing drugs. 5 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:17.800 We also house a charismatic psychopath, Erik Harrison. Suddenly choke. Oh. 6 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:21.600 Then he was a master of all shooters. I can't believe I'm doing 7 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:23.640 this, but once you do it, you're like, oh my god, 8 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:27.239 it's so fun. First guy shot. I was so pissed at him because 9 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:31.199 he didn't take me seriously. I hated when people disrespect I had to give 10 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:36.759 a security props. He was pretty brave, spot d and transient psychosis. 11 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:54.799 I couldn't help myself. He was just getting too exciting. Huh, how 12 00:00:54.799 --> 00:01:06.040 were you alrighty at walk street? Turn a little bit. I'm gonna turn 13 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:12.560 around. You can be a cheer. Gets a little bit, turns turn 14 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:25.239 eric, Can you look at me? I tried earlier, but I try 15 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.879 to wipe my face, but just okay, I gotta give bit of bit. 16 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:30.239 Well, listen to me. I'm you text you Cooper Woods out please 17 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.959 okay, okay, you're up here on the seventh four. The investigations for 18 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:40.680 everything's being audio video recorded. You're in a police station just for your safety 19 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.200 and our safety, and I just got a quickly to do this advisement for 20 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:46.319 you. I think the officers already did to you. You have the right 21 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.400 to me in silence. Anything you say, it can be used against you 22 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:49.120 in a court a law. You have the right at this time to talk 23 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:53.439 to a lawyer and have one present while you being questioned. If you cannot 24 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:55.640 afford one, one will be a point for you. Do you understand those 25 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.319 rights? Yes? Awesome? Okay, sit tight. You want some water 26 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.000 or something like partner, oh lovesome? Okay, I'll get some water. 27 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:06.799 You guys just wait out here, Yes, speak into that. That's what 28 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:10.319 I'm not in there? What out here? Okay? I think Aaron, 29 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:14.560 here, you hold hold up your hand. There's some cold water for you. 30 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:16.039 Okay, there's a calf on and everything like that. I broke the 31 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:19.759 seal library for you, but haven't said I'll be back and I want to 32 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:23.680 talk to you in a minute. Okay, Aaron, it's a detective Cooper 33 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.520 against play. Hey, yeah, I just want to get some information from 34 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:29.280 you. Uh, how do you spell your last name? Why would be 35 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:34.199 a R or A okay? And mental name initial or okay? And where 36 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.759 do you live every now about with terraces? What's the address there? And 37 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.039 that's Mount Lake Terrace? Yeah? Who do you live there with? My 38 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:46.479 parents? What's your cell phone number? And what's the contact number for your 39 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:53.039 parents? Uh? My mom is dad? And your dad? Uh? 40 00:02:54.360 --> 00:03:00.680 Two or six? Yeah? Okay? Okay? Type of a second, 41 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:06.639 but oh I want to keep it? Or shit? Oh Aron? How's 42 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:14.120 eyes going? Getting a little better in all plart though? Okay? Yeah, 43 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:16.800 try not to. Uh. The more you rub your eyes, uh 44 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:20.439 huh, the more you get the stuff in there? Do you want to 45 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:28.840 rint some more? Uh? H uh? Okay, groups up a little 46 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.039 bit. Okay, sit type for a second. That's do you see it 47 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.840 yet? Out of one age? Do you want a rinse? Again? 48 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:40.560 I don't know yet? Okay? Do you want a wet paper towel or 49 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.400 something? Maybe? Oh? What'll I do? What are you good? 50 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:46.719 It might cool your eyes a little bit as long as you don't rub them 51 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:50.639 too much, but you can have your eyes with it. Do you want 52 00:03:50.639 --> 00:04:06.000 to just bring you one. Yeah, sure there was. There's just some 53 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.639 wet Once of the boys into there's a couple of drows here. I can 54 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:20.279 you even Aaron? How's eyes going out? They're a little bit there? 55 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:25.879 Okay, yeah there, y'all starting to open them up? Uh okay. 56 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:45.639 The whip town didn't help any uh not much. Okay, Actually, yeah, 57 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:47.240 I guess Air. That's the other thing is you're gonna keep your eyes 58 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:49.360 open a little bit. I didn't. They'll take a while. It takes 59 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:53.759 forty seven minutes to an hour before I go away the effects it's been until 60 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.560 it's gonna take over for a little bit. So I'm just out here. 61 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:08.480 If you need something this yell all right? Hmmm, Aaron, how you 62 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:12.360 feeling now? Oh? When I opened my eyes and started getting moist, 63 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.759 and because you got it right around the cracks, that's the bad part. 64 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.199 Uh okay. I got my partner here. I don't know if you can 65 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:20.839 take a crack and look at her, I don't know. This is a 66 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:26.560 detective Duffy. Hi, how are you doing? Okay? Hey, I 67 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:29.600 just wanted to talk to you real quick, sure about what happened today and 68 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.519 other things and just get some inside information about the whole thing. Okay, 69 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:46.000 sure, and just let you know it's uh seventeen fourteen hours or five fourteen 70 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:50.560 pm. Okay, Now you said you'd live up not like Charis with your 71 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:56.959 parents. Yeah? Okay, are you born and race here in Washington? 72 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:09.120 Yes? Where were you were born? Out there? My lakes in Seattle? 73 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:15.360 Okay? I looked up in the Mounta Lake Terrace all your life? 74 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:20.439 Yeah? Okay. Where'd you go to high school? If fight? I 75 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:24.399 was home school through it all? High school? I don't know. I 76 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:31.959 have hook And what do you do for work? I work, uh fred 77 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:41.000 Meyron Lake City? And uh what do you do at? Uh? Fred 78 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:47.680 Meyer? A partial clerk on the card pusher. I like fred Meyer too, 79 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:50.959 and one on Lake City, the one with the roof top parking type 80 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:56.600 thing. Yeah, the second story. That's a nice. Uh, that's 81 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:00.360 a nice fred Meyer always talk everything on sale too. Yeah. It doesn't 82 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.600 have everything, but it does have most of the things and it's nice to 83 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:08.000 get around that because it is smaller. You work there full time, part 84 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:13.600 time, part time. Do you have any other jobs? No? I 85 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:16.920 just started working or thirty weeks ago? And how old are you again? 86 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:24.560 Twenty six? Be towarding Southern next month. I see that as far as 87 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:28.399 I mean. Do you parents know where you're at right now? No? 88 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:34.279 I they were at work when I started packing my stuff. Okay, m 89 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:46.480 are you member that school? H Do you go to school there? Give 90 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.639 me any one minute? Eyes are? Do you want more napkins or anything 91 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:54.720 like that? But sure? Can you just reach in the bathroom there and 92 00:07:55.879 --> 00:08:00.639 do you want want and wet whatever hopes actually dry because the wet switches the 93 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.920 stuff around in his eyes. You've got dry You got dry ones right here, 94 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.160 partner, Aron, right here, you got it? Okay? What 95 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:13.600 was a question? Do you go to school there? Where? At? 96 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.920 Uh? What is that? Seattle Pacific or Seattle University? Oh? No, 97 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:24.639 I don't. I I wanted to. I'll explain. Well I know, 98 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:33.440 but i'll explain when we move on. Okay, Because I was talking 99 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:35.039 to a trol lonster that brought you in here, and they're telling me. 100 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:41.600 You're telling them stuff about what happened today. Yeah, I was when I 101 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:46.240 got when I got caught, I might as well was just linded all out. 102 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:50.279 Okay. I was meaning I was meaning to die, Okay, but 103 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:58.679 I got caught instead, Karon. But here's a damp I was frond of 104 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:03.279 you is in your eyes and just kind of hold it there. Wow. 105 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:13.600 Oh okay, and then there's some there's some more dry ones right in front 106 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:18.679 of you if you need to use the dry ones. Okay, okay, 107 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:26.559 So why are you gonna ask questions? Or do you want me to just 108 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:35.960 start explaining? Why did you start explaining? I grew up in a Christian 109 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:39.960 home, like my family's very Christian? Okay, I started off being in 110 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.279 that way. And Aaron, I don't mean to interrupt you, but can 111 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.200 you lift your hand up a little so you out of your mouth so we 112 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:48.480 can hear you a little bit term? How's uh? That's better? Uh 113 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:56.399 uh? I had uh a higher level ocd F. If I was thirteen 114 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.240 and I was lonely growing up, I felt like I started to become psychotic 115 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:11.759 or something because I noticed I've been living in fantasy then reality. I I 116 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.679 made people want to hate me because I thought I was part of them, 117 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.240 but when when I was really part of what, I was part of their 118 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.759 crew, when I was really bugging them, Okay, and then because I 119 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.679 kept going through the same spot over and over because it was part of the 120 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:35.279 routine, and I need certain belongings and that certain routines to keep me sane. 121 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:37.320 I don't know why, but it just it was just like that, 122 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:43.480 what do you mean belongings? Like I needed certain things to for my routine. 123 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:50.879 Is like my cologne, my bedroom furniture, my like just certain things 124 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:58.360 like just like basic things like what people like I can't really explain, like 125 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:05.279 everybody he's OCD, but like I need certain like belonging to tell and they 126 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:09.600 can't go until it's ready until a certain time. And that's what made your 127 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:15.840 day normal. Yeah, okay, I knew it was something affected that it 128 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:22.120 would it would automatically change my mental state, made it made the compulsions go 129 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.440 from good to evil. But I couldn't. I couldn't stop it. And 130 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:31.759 I knew I couldn't treat it all my own it. But but my the 131 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.039 first time, when I was twenty one, when my brother was doing drugs, 132 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:43.919 he let his junkie friends come in, and what guide that kept bugging 133 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.840 me? He took my cologne, which I used every day. I started 134 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:52.759 to lose it and started making death threats. Tellerhan Tallerhan, it was a 135 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.600 quote acquaintance, is what it was going to do to him. Well me 136 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.120 ask you this. Have you ever had contact with the police and then in 137 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.639 these times or anything like that. No, I was just going insane. 138 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:07.960 I'm going to say I was just losing it. I wanted, I was 139 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:13.879 just I had no my OCD. I had requirements. I had to take 140 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:18.519 it in my own hands to get the respect, not just respect, but 141 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:24.240 every situation had a price to pay. What do you mean situation like if 142 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.279 someone threw off a routine or someone took something from me that I needed, 143 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:35.799 There had to be a price to pay, whether if it was uh well 144 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.879 once the cases like that, like if there had to hurt or kill someone, 145 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.639 it was just a higher level where I couldn't handle myself. Have you 146 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.960 ever heard anybody before it? No, I knew I was being safe about 147 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:50.559 it. I knew I was. I stayed away from those kinds of people 148 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.279 because I was trying to be good. I wanted I had it. I 149 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.879 knew I had a future to live up to and I wanted to be the 150 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:05.720 good guy. But my parents didn't understand what was going on with me. 151 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.559 And when I was twenty three, I had a I had my bed at 152 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:16.840 that I used for a while, but they didn't talk to me and wanted 153 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:22.919 to work on it with me, and and they took out the bedroom furniture 154 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.519 because they they said it had to go. I told him wait, and 155 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:30.159 I told him not yet. And because it wasn't taught that, they just 156 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:35.080 wouldn't listen. And and then I started losing I I kept drinking daily. 157 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:39.080 They ignored my drinking and told me to go to therapy. And it was 158 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:43.080 all about therapy. Because are you seeing anybody right now? What do you 159 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.279 mean? Are you seeking anybody for uh, any type of medical condition or 160 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.840 anything like that right now? Uh as a mental, mental, physical, 161 00:13:52.600 --> 00:14:00.840 drinking whatever. H H. I stopped seeing my psychotherapist because I didn't I 162 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:05.600 couldn't afford it. Who's that Samantha Good? Is that person local? Uh? 163 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:15.000 She her office is an east Lake. When did you stop seeing her? 164 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:20.960 It was recently. It was about a probably a about three months ago 165 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.080 maybe. And when you say east Lake, are you talking down on East 166 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:30.440 Lake or East Lake over like on the east side east Lake just past the 167 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:39.799 U District? Okay, Alva, Okay. So you've been having these issues 168 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:45.639 and stuff like that. So I knew I could have gotten to therapy. 169 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:50.039 It just wasn't time yet, but people were trying to force me. Even 170 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:54.200 my friends were bugging me because when when I was losing about losing it that 171 00:14:54.320 --> 00:15:00.799 day, therapy just kept getting into my head. I started getting stubborn and 172 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:07.039 not going and don't And later after I was done drinking, and like after 173 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:13.480 you're drinking, I just went to UH. I went to I found I 174 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:18.720 found some Mantha Good. The main reason I went to therapy was to get 175 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.759 everyone off my back. I knew it wasn't gonna do anything, but I 176 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.399 gave it, decided to give it a shot. Anyway, Who was paying 177 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.919 for UH doctor Good? My my parents did at first, and then they 178 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.879 had me do it because I realized I was drinking while I was seeing her. 179 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.559 And were you prescribed medication or anything like that? Yeah. I went 180 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:46.480 from my psychiatrist, Heidi Iwanski, how do you spit her last name? 181 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:54.879 Uh i w A and as ki? What would you prescribe you? The 182 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:03.000 prozac and whispertal? But she she diagnosed me with transient psychosis and OCD. 183 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:07.200 But when I realized but when she told me about OCD, I realized that 184 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.519 it's more, it's on a higher level. Than what people really think. 185 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:17.960 I can't control myself no matter what's going on. Okay, I can't control 186 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:19.840 my mental state even if I wanted to help. I couldn't stop wanting to 187 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:29.000 do the things I've been planning on doing. Okay, So how I mean, 188 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:33.159 how long have you had these feelings? The evil feelings are the good 189 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:38.480 ones? Oh? Uh? Since I was thirteen. The good feelings until 190 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:44.519 twenty three when my stuff got taken away, my bedroom burniture got taken away. 191 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:47.639 So in the last three years, you've started having these bad feelings? 192 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:52.639 Yeah, and can you describe the bad feelings to me? I started I 193 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.960 just felt nothing but hate, one hundred percent hatred towards the world, towards 194 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:03.440 everyone. I threatened to massacre the local bar once because I just wanted everything 195 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:07.759 and everyone to die. And then Columbine gave him to mind. I don't 196 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.799 know how, but it just hit me. I've been when I was watching 197 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.640 the news, the kid I Columbine look, Eric Harriss camed into my head, 198 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:22.319 the mastermind of the shooting right, and I kept identifying with him ever 199 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:27.240 since the past three years, because he just made everything so exciting. He 200 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:33.880 made hate so exciting. Well, I mean in Columbine he used explosives and 201 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:37.599 stuff like that. Did you ever thought about that or did you mastermind? 202 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.279 I'm not smart enough to make a make to go on the internet figure out 203 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:45.079 how to make bombs, Okay, I just I just go by my instincts 204 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:49.240 of what I've learned, okay. And what have you learned? How to 205 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:56.359 shock and rifle and pistol shooting? Okay? My family or marksman? Your 206 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:00.200 mom and dad are well? Well, my dad, my brother are okay. 207 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:07.759 What's your brother's name, Joel? And uh, do you have any 208 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:15.279 sisters? Yeah, Brandy, b R A, N D I any other 209 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:22.400 brothers and sisters? No? Okay? And one of my issue was going 210 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:26.440 on. Humiliation started going because all my friends were worried that I was gonna 211 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:30.440 kill them, and the during the death threats of the bar and I couldn't 212 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:34.119 look at them the way they used to. They they treated been treating me 213 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.599 different, like they've been closed men on me. Are been getting paranoid and 214 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.599 the world was going against me, and all right, all was Joel. 215 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:48.039 Joel is twenty five, twenty four, going on twenty five in February. 216 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:57.279 And how about Brandy? Brandy is twenty nine. Okay, excuse me, 217 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:03.559 and that first boat getting to me too a little. So you have these 218 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:07.440 bad feelings since about twenty three to last three years. Yeah, did you 219 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.799 talk to this with your psychiatrists and your and doctor Good too? Yeah? 220 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:18.480 I told him everything they know. They know a lot more than anybody than 221 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:22.880 than uh, especially Samantha Good. She knows almost everything I've told her. 222 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:26.160 We had a lot to talk about in the past two years. They ever, 223 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:30.720 did they ever confine you or anything like that? What do you mean, 224 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:37.839 like involuntary commitment or anything like that, volunteerily commitment, I like in 225 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.599 a hospital to be evaluated or anything like that. No, I no, 226 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:45.839 I refused. They suggested it, but I refused because I've been into the 227 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.880 emergency room for drinking. It was uncomfortable being in a hospital. I totally 228 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:56.920 understand that part. So you talk about what you know as far as your 229 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.759 family be in marksman, I mean, oh men and my family. Yeah, 230 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.559 okay, does the man? Does everybody own guns in your family? 231 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:12.599 Well? Oh yeah, most of them were stolen. Uh. When my 232 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:19.720 brother was doing drugs. We also housed a charismatic psychopath is what I like 233 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:25.400 to call him, because he manipulated my family, and he stole from us 234 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:29.559 and and made him think that it was my brother that did it. And 235 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:33.160 who was that? His name was Jeron Bernal. He's in my private journal. 236 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:37.359 I have a diary in my truck. I told the cops the white 237 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.640 truck. Yeah did they? Did you read it? I haven't read it 238 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:49.440 yet. These dark feelings made me go from the Christian muse to admiring sadism. 239 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.240 And that's when the hate started feeling really good because I felt that God 240 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.920 betrayed me. I've been praying for him to help me, but but I 241 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:03.599 didn't feel like you didn't answered my prayers. I can understand that, Flings. 242 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:08.440 I got a question for you, yet, when you when we started 243 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:14.440 talking about this, you said you had packed your things this before you started 244 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:18.599 on this thing. I know you had a shotgun. What else did you 245 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:23.000 pack? Honey knife? And of course I haven't talked to any of my 246 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:26.160 detectives up at the scene, but what type of shotgun was it? It 247 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:32.519 was a browning over and under a statory. I used that for sporting plays, 248 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:37.079 okay, And of course I'm talking to you here, I haven't seen 249 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:38.960 your shotgun or anything like that. Did you have it modified? Was it 250 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:45.400 cut off anything like that? No, in case I got pulled over or 251 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.000 got caught up or something. I hit it in a garbage bag, like 252 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.440 if I was packing some like if I was just stuffing stuff in there. 253 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.759 Okay. I assembled it in the shock in the in that truck because my 254 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.720 windows were presented. I knew no one couldn't could couldn't. Okay, So 255 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.279 you had this shotgun, you had a hunting knife, anything else? I 256 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:08.200 popped seventy five rounds of ammunition because I thought it was going to kill an 257 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:14.519 injure more people. Okay, what type of animal were using? Just I 258 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:19.400 was using dove loads the bird shot? Yeah? Steel or lead blood? 259 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:29.599 Remember what number? No? Okay, he said lead right, I'm sorry. 260 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:33.920 Yeah, okay, I've been playing. I've been playing about to talk 261 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:41.799 SPU because, oh, because I had to stay local. Washington State University 262 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:47.559 was supposed to be the main target, isn't. I wasn't really targeting anyone 263 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:51.559 specifically. I just had hatred towards the world, but I didn't want to 264 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:56.720 tap my own cities. Right, Let me ask you this. So you 265 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.039 didn't have a handgun or anything like that. No, I don't want and 266 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:02.920 know how to get into my dad to safe okay. And you had seventy 267 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.200 five rounds with you? Yeah? Did you have the rounds in scale your 268 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:10.480 truck when they when you were stopped by the cops. No, it was 269 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:15.319 just a case how you go all pulled over? Okay? Because I had 270 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:25.880 to be prepared. I want to take a set of water. It was 271 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:29.240 just I don't know, I was making no worse when I'm trying to open 272 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:32.319 my eyes. Well, you don't have to. I mean, I guess 273 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:36.559 it's the to get something the mucous membrane in the eyes and everything like that, 274 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:38.480 and the more you rub it and stuff like that, you just kind 275 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:42.599 of have to just sit calmly and try not to touch your eyes and trot 276 00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:48.440 right now, So you you broke the shotgun down, and I put it 277 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.480 in a garbage back before you took it out to your car. This, 278 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:53.079 Yeah, I put in my back pocket in there so it'll look like it. 279 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.799 There's no shotgun in there. There's just a book, bunch of stuff 280 00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:59.599 and my sweatshirt of how long now, how long is the barrel in the 281 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.960 shotgun? Thirty two inch? Okay? So you assembled it in your car 282 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:07.759 when you got to the school. Yeah, the officers were telling me you 283 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.799 said something about that you plan man, you told me this already, but 284 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.079 that you've taken a tour of that campus. Yeah, two mondays ago. 285 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:21.599 I manipulated these of quite a few students. But but I used two girls 286 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:23.880 to give me a private tour. I didn't even have to ask. I 287 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:27.759 acted like a transfer student. And the way I approached and made them one 288 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.519 to give me a tour. Where'd you meet him in? I was just 289 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:34.079 walking around. I don't know specific areas. Did you get their names? 290 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:40.240 Uh? I met this one black girl. She was really nice. I 291 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:45.039 don't know how to pronounce or I don't really know how to spell her name. 292 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:47.160 I don't know how to spell her name, but I think you was 293 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:52.400 pronounced it as a droja. Okay, that's the closest I remember. And 294 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.279 then she gave me about a ten minute tour. Really helped me out in 295 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.079 my riding. So I told her away to single her out for doing not 296 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:02.920 because I didn't even have to ask. She was a volunteer until I showed 297 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:06.759 a little remorse for that. Okay, did she show you the whole campus 298 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.799 as much as she she knew. Okay. Is she an English student or 299 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:18.839 was she a science ye? Okay, I think I remember that she from 300 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.960 the United States or from another country. I don't remember. Okay. I 301 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.759 know she lives in a dorm. Okay. And remember if she was a 302 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:32.759 freshman, sophomore, senior. I don't remember. But I remember the second 303 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:37.759 girl being a being a sophomore. Okay. In another gal? Was she 304 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.400 a white gal or black gale? He was a white girl. Her name 305 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.920 is Kyleeen. I mentioned her in my writings too. I showed remorse for 306 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:48.680 her too. I told her I said I would single her out too. 307 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.720 She assigned student also, she was she joined me. She was in the 308 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.279 children's head Oh, okay, so two month days? If I was that 309 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.519 what you said? Yeah, okay. I adn't talked to the the academic 310 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:07.799 person. I manipulated him too. I was acting like I wanted to transfer 311 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.000 there. Where were you telling? Where were you transferring from? Where was 312 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:15.640 it storyed? In this community college where I was where I was going for 313 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.799 a few years ago? So this was the academic advisor. Yeah, remember 314 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.920 who that was? I don't remember his name, but he wore glasses. 315 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:30.400 He had short blonde hair. He should remember me if if my face is 316 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.319 on the news. Okay, I wasn't really trying to get fame. I 317 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:40.000 was just trying to I was really just trying to express my hate how I 318 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:45.920 really felt about the world. I understand. So two mondays ago, remember 319 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:51.720 what time you were up there? About one one ish, one thirty ish. 320 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.200 I remember checking the time when I was in the when I found the 321 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:00.680 Autumn Miller Hall. That's where I met Adroja. Okay, that was about 322 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:06.200 one fifteen maybe. So you started, did you get showed up at that 323 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:08.519 hall and and they you met him there? Or how did I go? 324 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:15.119 I was charged. I was doing a hunter and fisherman's technique by scouting my 325 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.039 area. So I think, why that's why I went to the campus early 326 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:29.599 to scout my area. And and uh, and I asked. I went 327 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:34.559 up to with a few students, guys and girls, asking them where the 328 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:38.440 math room is, and that's where autom Miller is because I told him, 329 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:44.200 oh, I'm going to I'm thinking about transferring here. Blah blah blah blah 330 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.599 blah. Why the math room? All right, I'm just curious, Oh, 331 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:48.920 just to be casual, because I was, I told him. I 332 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:56.319 was doing business major okay, and then you ended up at the auto hall 333 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.279 or what's it called Auto Otto Miller Atto Miller. Girl told him told me 334 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.000 where it was, but the campus was too big for me to recognize because 335 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:11.440 I'm not havn't experienced universities, right, And now I've approached this this guy, 336 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.680 he was about nineteen or twenty. I was trying to make sure where 337 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.759 I was going. He was a nice kid. I don't I didn't get 338 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:25.480 his name or anything, but he was white, uh blonde hair. He 339 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.160 told me where he told me He pointed to the direction while I was where 340 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.440 I was meaning to go. Okay, So did the two girls show you 341 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.680 the inside of Otto Miller at Hall? Yeah? Okay. How much time 342 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.279 do you think he spent there? Oh? I just well the first time, 343 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:48.720 well absolutely not those ten girls. It was the show that what the 344 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:56.319 one guy and girl drink a little water. But that one guy and girl 345 00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:59.000 I told which I mentioned, right, did they led me there and I 346 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:07.279 just started exporting the hallway. Okay, did you go through the whole building 347 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.079 or I tried to go as I just went to the first part, and 348 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.799 then that's when I met Audroja. She was talking to her blonde friend. 349 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.880 Okay, I was going to approach the blond girl, but she was opening 350 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.279 the door to get to class, and then I caught up with Audroja. 351 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:23.720 Okay. I don't know if that's exactly her name, but that's the best 352 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.359 way I could pronounce it. Do you know how many floors are in that 353 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.680 hall? Two? Okay? Did you ever make it to the second floor 354 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:34.880 when you're on your scalt No, I just made it to the first. 355 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:40.160 I just wanted to the closest area I could find. Okay. Did you 356 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:44.720 check for exits and entrances and things like that, ingresses, egresses type thing 357 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.000 like for students to escape? Yeah, oh, I knew there was one 358 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.480 in the back, but okay, but there was a long run, okay. 359 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.839 And I mean I know you know the police caught you and everything. 360 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.039 You This was your own plan, right, yes, okay. No one 361 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.799 else is helping you with this or anything like that. No, the guidance 362 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.119 of Eric harrisons some wei chow in my head. I've helped me out, 363 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:12.240 Especially Eric Harris. He was a oh man, he was a master of 364 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:17.160 all shooters. Let me ask you this, So when you scouted this two 365 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:21.319 mondays ago. You checked for the exits and entrances to the billy. You 366 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:25.119 never made to the second floor. No, I didn't bother So how long 367 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:27.400 do you think you were there on your scout in the building. I was 368 00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:32.359 just exploring, walking up and down the halls to make sure I know where 369 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.720 there's classrooms that make and and yesterday I made one one more stop, but 370 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.759 because I had to make sure people were there, because just in case I 371 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.319 didn't, I was in the middle of final sort of classes got out earlier. 372 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.759 Yeah, and remember what time you were there yesterday? One out of 373 00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.799 three, So there were people walking out of the class, but there were 374 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:57.640 more people than today. Okay, so people, I'm assuming people got thrown 375 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.480 with their classes early before finals. So did you go there yesterday at three 376 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.319 and come back? Because this this it sounds like this whole thing started about 377 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.960 three thirty, I mean yesterday when you was it like a dry run yesterday 378 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.960 then yesterday? Yeah, I just I just had to. I just made 379 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:15.960 a drive to make sure I saw people. I didn't go in the building. 380 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:18.920 You didn't go in the buildings. I just had to make sure people 381 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.359 were walking to their buildings. Okay, and you saw people coming and going, 382 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:30.599 yeah, okay, so this morning, I mean, when did you 383 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.119 I mean, when did you decide to do this this morning? Or was 384 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.480 it last week or did you have to stay in mind? Or how'd you 385 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.319 come out with this today? To start today? I was trying to go 386 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.960 with what Eric Carros was playing, like pick a day, but I couldn't 387 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.319 do that. I wasn't I wasn't as organized as he was. Right, 388 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:56.680 Oh so I just I just had to play it by ear and but I 389 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:02.400 had to make sure I had to go before classes were before classes were out, 390 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.400 because finals are good. People were getting ready for finals and people there's 391 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:12.279 only certain days. And how'd you know they were having finals? I got 392 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:17.759 information from the the academic person. Okay, then I and I snuke some 393 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.799 information from other people, like my brother in law said he was going to 394 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:27.039 Seattle, you, I asked, I asked him when, So he's on 395 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.559 a snuggle a snuk. I was being sneaky and said, so do you 396 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.200 so you're own finals this week? You said, no, a couple of 397 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.720 weeks, but that was last week. Okay, and uh so, but 398 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:42.279 you you basically learned from the academic advisor two Mondays ago. Yeah, you 399 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:47.240 just would be finals weeks. Uh, what the I think next week was 400 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.839 supposed to be finals week or this week? But I had to go before 401 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.640 before I knew it was too late. Okay. If I had, if 402 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.319 I knew it was too late, then I would wait over the summer and 403 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:04.319 then pick and go into sometime in the fall. Okay. So this was 404 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.599 kind of your last shot make it vacated, right, Yeah? And I 405 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:13.799 had, and I wanted to get out of this world so bad that it's 406 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.839 like I can't wait anymore. I can't attack while as you were Central, 407 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:20.640 I'm just gonna go local and use what I have because I've been trying to 408 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:27.160 save up for the white, the right weapons, the right equipment, and 409 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.200 I was and I was trying to be well organized, but I my OCD 410 00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:35.680 kept making me want to spend more money, and I was disorganized with that. 411 00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.559 Did you buy the shotgun yourself? Or yeah, from a from a 412 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:43.519 member at the range, but that was like years ago. That was I 413 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.319 was about nineteen at the time. Did you So if I run to certain 414 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.799 number on that shotgun and you're gonna come back to you, I don't know 415 00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:53.920 if if we put in my name, but I know, I know he 416 00:33:54.000 --> 00:34:00.119 wouldn't have. I don't want to get hit him in trouble because okay, 417 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.839 because because this is what when I was on my good side, right, 418 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.840 and how nobody could knows. No, I'm sure nobody could tell that I 419 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.239 was able to do because I was being sneaky. I didn't want anyone know. 420 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:21.079 I just wanted to be done over and die, right. So do 421 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.599 you have other weapons or anything like that? I mean, I there more 422 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:25.760 stuff in the truck that you know when I look in the truck. Am 423 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:29.519 I gonna buy more weapons? No? I'm being honest. I'm a man 424 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.239 of my word. Even I asked my friends, and at your house, 425 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.440 do you have other weapons at your house? At your mom and dad's house. 426 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.800 No, they got all caught stolen from drawn. They got the first 427 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.000 kid that I hit out out in the outside of the building. Right. 428 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:51.880 He kind of looked like him at first. Oh, well, it's like, 429 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:57.079 have you heard of the story about Elisa boost Elisa Boustamani, the kid 430 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.679 who the girl who killed her nine year old neighbor. Yeah, that's kind 431 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:05.360 of like what she said. Oh, You're like, I can't believe I'm 432 00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:07.760 doing this, but once you do it, you're like, oh my god, 433 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.239 it's so fun. Right, and they got the you mean today the 434 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.679 first guy you shot at first? Yeah, first guy shot at I was 435 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.840 so pissed at him because he didn't take me seriously. I hate it when 436 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:24.119 people disrespect me, but I can't let out what I'm incapable of letting out 437 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:30.880 my true feelings. But but I first felt I was able to get respect 438 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.679 once I made that first shot. Well, I want to get to that 439 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:37.039 too, and I want you to explain that to me in detail, but 440 00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.880 I might not be the way I wanted to put it, but it right 441 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.119 be something like that. Yeah, I want I'm still at the point where 442 00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:49.599 you packed every you broke the shotgun down, You got seventy five rounds. 443 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.840 Yeah, you bought all that yourself. Yes, okay, And I bought 444 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.320 that weeks ago. I hit it in my room and then my parents would 445 00:35:55.480 --> 00:36:00.960 respect my my my room and I hit bul. I hid bolt cutters there 446 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:06.360 because when I was going on my random out killing people when I was on 447 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:12.599 my issues, and so my parents locked them up and I broke the lock. 448 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:17.519 They had some metal on it. So okay, so you only have 449 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.079 that shotgun, and you brought that knife. You broke the shotgun down, 450 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.239 but you reassembled it in your truck. Yes, So what time did you 451 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:32.440 leave your house today? So I on a slow start. I left around 452 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:37.159 two fifteen, but there's a little bit of traffic, and I was getting 453 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:44.519 ready around twelve thirty, getting ready for the day, and delayed my time 454 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.880 because my brother called and I called him back. He didn't suspect a thing. 455 00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.039 I didn't be good us. It's just I didn't even feel remorse for 456 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.840 what I was about to do for I, or I didn't even feel for 457 00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:00.280 how my loved one felt. I just it's true what they say. I 458 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.639 even wrote this in my journal. It's true what they say. When you 459 00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.760 go through a lot of stress out a period of time, you start to 460 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.320 lose a lot. You can start to lose emotion and I feel anything. 461 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:19.599 Okay, that's a big change that I felt. So you packed all these 462 00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.880 things, you load them into your truck, and it's the truck registering your 463 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.559 name and mine and my mom's okay. How long have you had that truck? 464 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.639 For? About three years? Maybe? What kind of truck is this? 465 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:36.400 It's a Chevy S ten two thousand, and two Chevy S ten. 466 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:44.280 Is that the smaller version? Yeah? Okay, and it's white, right. 467 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:45.960 Yeah. You don't happen to know the plate day you? No, 468 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:50.719 I'm going off my heart. Okay. I don't even know my plate nowadays 469 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:55.920 with so many the letters and numbers on them. So you put everything in 470 00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:01.639 your eye, you assemble it in there, and you get there and you 471 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:06.639 just go to the out of Miller Hall there. Yeah, did you park? 472 00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.519 I parked right across the street, okay, right facing the entrance. 473 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:16.039 Okay, I was before I parked in the back where two people were like 474 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:21.599 doing a little projects, right, But I didn't I didn't pack everything up 475 00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:24.280 yet. I had to make sure I could go into about exit, but 476 00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.639 the exit was locked so I couldn't get in, so I had to I 477 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.639 had to drive around in park that today towards the entrance. Yeah, okay, 478 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.159 So you park out in front of the entrance to somewhere your shotgun. 479 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.360 And I don't know if the officers recovered more rounds on you when they took 480 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.199 you in the cussy or how many rounds did you take with you. I 481 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:49.239 popped fifty on me, but I had seventy five total okay, because that's 482 00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.079 all I could sneak into my sweat in the pocket. Okay, so when 483 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:57.079 they took you into Cussy, he hadn't they took rounds off you. Yeah. 484 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:01.280 The the security that that to me down, they they reach in my 485 00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:07.880 pocket and shovel them out. Okay. I was reaching for mine hunting knife, 486 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:09.480 not to kill more people because I know I got caught. I was 487 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:13.440 trying to slip my throat to die, but they took that away from me. 488 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:15.519 Okay, what kind of hunting knife is it. It's a skinning knife 489 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:22.480 with one of those hooks on the Oh yeah, yeah. It was just 490 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:28.760 like a dying wish. But it's like it's not when people say kill yourself 491 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.480 and not taking us of people. It's like one of those things where you 492 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:36.320 just like when your hate gets to you and you're like, I wanted to 493 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.239 do this because this is how much I hate people. I turned against humanity, 494 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:44.639 but I couldn't stop wanting to Well I understand that feeling. Let me 495 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:45.719 ask you this, So when you get out, where do you encounter the 496 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.719 first guy? Again, I haven't been out there. I was trying to 497 00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.599 hold two people hostage, just to have a little fun, right, But 498 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.159 they didn't take me seriously. They were laughing at me. Did you show 499 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.920 them the SHACKU? Yeah? I said, hey, you two get inside. 500 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.800 These one girl and one guy that they were talking to each other like 501 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:07.320 they were they were just staying they're laughing at me. Yeah. And then 502 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.199 and then I pointed to that one guy that I shot, and I said, 503 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:16.440 I said, hey you, oh, hey, you get inside? 504 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.800 And he said, ha ha, you think you can scare me with that 505 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.199 thing? And that's when I got mad, and I was gonna shoot people 506 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.280 anyway, but I was really mad at him. We're doing that, okay? 507 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.039 Was that the first guy you shot? That was the first guys shot? 508 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.440 When he turned his back, I started walking, I put one in 509 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.639 his shoulder. I think it was a shoulder. I didn't see any blood, 510 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.000 but I saw him go down. What's the capacity of that shotgun coming 511 00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:44.400 round? Oh it's a double barrel, so too, okay. Accidentally drive 512 00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:47.880 fired my second barrel. So that's how I got caught. I couldn't so 513 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:53.639 I can only load one in one round in because the over under right. 514 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:58.519 Yeah, it seemed like the firing, either the firing pin stick stuff or 515 00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:00.599 that round was a dud and I just left it in there. Okay. 516 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:06.400 So basically, so you're down to one one barrel, yeah, okay. 517 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.199 So you're like, you fired, then you had to reload. Yeah, 518 00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:14.000 okay. And you said the second round or the second round in the second 519 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.920 chamber didn't go off. The first guy you shot, you shoot him the 520 00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:19.920 first time? Yeah? Did you pull the trigger to hit him with the 521 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.639 second time with the second barrel? I tried to hit the girl that laughed 522 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:30.559 at me with the second barrel and then and then but she hesitated for about 523 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.119 five seconds for him being shocked, right, and then she took off running, 524 00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.199 and while I was trying to pull the trigger, So I chucked into 525 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.400 that one and then and then reloaded and then went inside the building. Okay, 526 00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.840 and then what'd you do there? Were I saw a few people inside 527 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.519 when I was walking around. The first time I saw I saw the guy 528 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:55.760 on his laptop. I didn't point the gut at him, but he showed 529 00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.119 him the shock and I said. He took off his her phones and I 530 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:05.639 said, I don't want to have to hurt you. The guy out there, 531 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:07.480 I said, stay calm, I don't want to have to hurt you. 532 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.480 He said, okay. He looked a little shot because I had a 533 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:16.559 gun in my hand right, and I said, I I shot a man 534 00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:21.440 outside because he disrespected me. I don't want to have to hurt you. 535 00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:25.840 He said, okay. And then a girl came downstairs. I said, 536 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.559 I said, I don't want to have to hurt you. She laughed at 537 00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.199 me too and just kept blocking. That made me mad too. It was 538 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:38.800 like, I don't get respect from people. They don't take me seriously. 539 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:43.000 I was growing up people and wouldn't take me seriously. They did, They 540 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.400 would just laugh at me. So the gallet was coming down the stairs when 541 00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.960 you told her when you showed her the gun, and she laughed at you, 542 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.320 did you shoot her? To him? I shot her, yeah, 543 00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:53.760 I think it was an arm. And then she screamed okay. And then 544 00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:58.960 and then the guy I and then the guy I was talking to. At 545 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:04.400 first he took off okay, and I tried to and I tried to fire 546 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:08.440 my second shot again, but I realized that that was the bad barrel. 547 00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:13.519 Okay, but I got it. And then I tried to inject the shell. 548 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.719 Okay. I injected it and tried to put new one in, but 549 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.000 I didn't break it in all the way, so that way it took him. 550 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:21.679 That's why it took me so long to reload. And that's when the 551 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:25.039 security came out and maced me. How many people do you think he shot? 552 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.800 I remember shooting too, but there were two girls in back of her, 553 00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:37.119 so I probably hit a couple of them too, because because because they 554 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:42.960 said I had two more victims who said that the officers. Okay, let 555 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.239 me ask you this. The first guy you shot, you shot when he 556 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.719 turned his back on you. Yeah, how close were you too? I 557 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.760 was just about fifteen twenty feet okay. And the girl that was coming down 558 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.800 the stairs, how close were you to her? Twelve fifteen feet okay? 559 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:05.119 And you saw other women behind her, yeah okay. And so but you 560 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.280 were targeting the gal that was laughing at you, yeah, okay. But 561 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:13.480 with dub shot it duve shot right. Yeah, steel you know thirty. 562 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.480 It's probably a big pattern. Huh. Yeah, it goes out farther for 563 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:21.880 the longer the barrel, the longer I'll go out. You shot the shotgun 564 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:23.679 before, I haven't you. No, I'm well experienced with shotguns and rifles. 565 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:31.400 Okay, Why I mean, I have a curious question why bird shot 566 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:38.119 versus like double lot or something like that. Double there's just only six rounds 567 00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:42.239 and buck shot. But it won't when the spreads, it won't go. 568 00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.360 It won't the pattern won't be as close as you want. Right, then 569 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.360 you have to shoot only one lead ball will hit, but it won't be 570 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.760 a big impact as much as a as a thirty off six rifle would. 571 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:59.039 Right. But if you do a but if you do a lead shot, 572 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.320 a bird shot a close range, that would disintegrate a human face. True, 573 00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.400 but you said and you were using lead right Yeah. And plus I'm 574 00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:12.239 using an over and under barrel. That's not good for buckshot. Okay, 575 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.119 Yeah, I'm just curious. Yeah, because that was made for supporting plays, 576 00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:22.559 not made for heavy duty loads. Okay. And why a shotgun versus 577 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:28.880 like a handgun, Because I'm because I know my lead on on shotguns. 578 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.800 I know how to hit moving targets, the soles, I'm blessed accurate. 579 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:37.960 Plus my dad had a smaller barrel and which is lightwood. I'm easier to 580 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:45.760 hit with heavier guns. Okay, Aaron, you said that you you bought 581 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:50.000 the AMMO just recently. Where did you buy that? At? Adventor Sports? 582 00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:52.280 Were usually just my hunting equipment. And where's that at? It's in 583 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:57.079 Linwood? Okay, did you buy the knife there too? I bought the 584 00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:01.039 knife at Big Five just before my barrel hunting. When was that? I 585 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.039 was about three years ago? Maybe? Okay, so it was Carter a 586 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:10.920 while ago. Was that also in Linwood? That was in Aurora close to 587 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:16.079 Edmonds or something? Uh huh Big five or a knife? Yes, but 588 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:20.159 that was a few years ago, three years ago? And you you actually 589 00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.679 went on a bear hunting trip? Yeah, on my good side? Who'd 590 00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.840 you go on that way? My brother in law? Did you get anything? 591 00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:32.320 No? It was no, No. We uh we decided to try 592 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:36.880 again later because we left a little bit later than we wanted to. The 593 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.880 bears were already uphill. And where'd you do the bear hunting trip? Ap 594 00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:49.400 over and Randy Creek just passed Steven's Pass. And how long ago was it 595 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.039 that you bought the hammer? Was it like, did you say three weeks 596 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.840 ago? Or did I miss h I bought it about about three or four 597 00:46:54.880 --> 00:47:00.079 weeks ago. I bought that ahead of time because I had to. I 598 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.880 had to spend money. I was doing temporary work before Fred Mayer. I 599 00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:13.599 had to. I had to. I had to you. Uh oh, 600 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:23.239 well, I was gonna say I had to. Uh sorry, I was 601 00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:36.679 distracting me from all that. Makay I. I had to bye bye it 602 00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:42.639 early enough because I had my last part. Yes, take a lot of 603 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.840 water, but get that out of your throat. I had had my lot, 604 00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:51.519 I had my last I was twenty on me. I had to get 605 00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.320 something because, oh, because I was, my time was running short. 606 00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.079 Is that better? Yeah? And if I wanted to die, I had 607 00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.880 I had the price had to be paid first. It's like a requirement. 608 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:12.239 I couldn't stop. Do you did you buy all the animal and one one 609 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:17.559 purchase? I bought the first box just about a week or two weeks. 610 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.400 I got up before the others. I had to get something, just to 611 00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:27.599 accomplish something first. How many rounds in a box? Twenty five? About 612 00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:31.440 three? Three boxes? Told have three different occasions, two different occasions. 613 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:37.800 What the first time was about two weeks before the others I bought two was 614 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:44.800 the other at the same time. I had And so security took you in. 615 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.119 The security sprayed you with pepper spray. Yeah, okay, as you 616 00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:51.239 were reloading. Yeah, I could have got away with it if if I 617 00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:55.880 knew my barrel was four one knew if I knew my barrel, my bottom 618 00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:00.559 with barrel was was a dud. And and also if I knew, I 619 00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:05.519 would have broken in more because it shot. The show won't go in if 620 00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:10.480 the barrel is not if the if you don't break it in all they'll break 621 00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:14.320 it. Break it open all the way. And where's the shotgun? Now? 622 00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:16.639 Police hold it? Okay? Did you see the police take it? 623 00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:20.440 No, but they put it in a room. I know they have it 624 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:23.719 somewhere. Okay, but it's their scene. Yeah, okay, So see 625 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.719 the school security pepper sprayed you. And how soon after they sprayed you did 626 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.519 the cops show up? So they were pretty quick bester than I expected. 627 00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:39.159 There was probably about maybe it was minutes, probably about maybe four to six 628 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:43.039 minutes. That's what it felt like. I don't know, they capt time 629 00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:50.599 and the okay, well, no no disrespect, but how the way it 630 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:55.360 felt just I don't know, feeling that hateful power. Just when I heard 631 00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.320 the SWAT team was there, it just made me feel good. But but 632 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.760 that was me feeling my hate when you hear the SWAT team was there. 633 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:13.400 The officers said that the slote swat team was there and and they had their 634 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:19.320 keys or something. Oh okay, well what if you ran into the swat 635 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.599 team guys? Oh well, if I had to, Well, if I'm 636 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:27.880 wanting to die, so they gave me no If they gave me no choice, 637 00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:29.920 I have no choice but to shoot. I don't begin him to kill 638 00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:34.880 me. Make priority was to die, but I had to pay the price 639 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.480 onhow right? It was just a requirement. My OCD just kissed to me. 640 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.880 Okay, it's like extreme or something that. No matter like I've been 641 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:51.159 trying to warn people like I. No matter how hard I tried, I 642 00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:55.079 can't stop. I can't control who I am when I was something effects them. 643 00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:59.400 It's done good parts of it. Aaron, you said you were on 644 00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:04.079 the pro back and there was spirit at all when you were doing the counseling. 645 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.679 Did you stop taking those mads or are you still taking them? I 646 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:12.599 stopped because I was stubborn and I wanted to feel my hate, and plus 647 00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.320 I didn't think it was working. I just I just loved the hateful feeling. 648 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:19.880 I was thinking, what did it was a point of being good in 649 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.679 the world against me? How long ago has that been since you stopped taking 650 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.360 it. Oh, I've been taking it off and on, but I've been 651 00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.280 I haven't been taking it for about six months. Maybe I lied to my 652 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:36.880 psychiatrist. So when was the last time you saw your psychiatrist? I was. 653 00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.840 I don't remember the exact time. I mean, like a couple of 654 00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:45.400 weeks ago, or has it been months as well? Uh? I think 655 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:50.199 it was sure it was months. It was kind of quite a while. 656 00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:55.400 Okay. If I had a choice to not feel this way, I wouldn't 657 00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.840 have done this. I wouldn't have wanted I thought, I wouldn't have wanted 658 00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:01.920 to kill people. I wanted to live a happy, successful life. But 659 00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:07.679 my hate caught it my way. The compulsiveness was just overcoming me. But 660 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:10.199 let me ask you. You knew if you go to the school and you 661 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:13.880 start shooting people, that you're gonna have to answer to us, right, 662 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:21.079 yeah, okay, And and you know you just can't go killing people. 663 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:22.559 But I understand you know you don't like the world and everything like that. 664 00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:28.440 Yeah, right, I know, I under no, I understand everything. 665 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:34.119 I was acceptually expecting that answer. But no, I just as you just 666 00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.960 couldn't stop wanting to Right, how do you think that your your parents are 667 00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:43.639 going to react to this situation. Oh, they're going to be very devastated. 668 00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:45.960 Ever since they got my idea, why they got they were pretty devastated 669 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.119 too. This is going to really hurt them. I mean, do you 670 00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:53.320 think that they're gonna somewhat understand because if you're OCD and you're and the way 671 00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:57.559 things have been going, or it's just going to be a total shock to 672 00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.480 them. Because there's gonna be a total shock to them. But they knew 673 00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:05.679 I've been having the issues, but they I don't know. I just stopped 674 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.440 carrying and I stopped carrying a belt. Do you want me to call them 675 00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:12.719 and let him know you're here with us? Yeah, that's fine. Okay, 676 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.480 it's a type of person. You need anything else, water or anything 677 00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:22.280 like that. No, I'm fine. I'm gonna get parents information. I 678 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.639 got it, got it, Okay, I'm sure my friends will be really 679 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:30.440 hurtful, but I'm gonna be with nothing. But's come to them now? 680 00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:52.480 Oh yep, we'll see Aaron. Yeah, okay, it's a technic Cooper. 681 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:53.880 I got a question for you. Sure are you feeling okay right now? 682 00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:59.360 M say sin as before? Okay, are you on anything right now? 683 00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:02.639 What have you been drinking it all today? Doesn't suppably meant that they 684 00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:07.960 wu ask that. I just I'm thinking of you, man, I've been 685 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.239 drinking or anything like that. No, I'm sober. I'm queen. Okay, 686 00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:14.119 any medicinity, solcation or anything like that. I have to stay sober 687 00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:20.559 to stay motivated. Okay, sounds good. Yeah. Have you talked about 688 00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:25.280 doing this with anybody or you told anybody about this? No, when I 689 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:29.880 was field on alcohol at the time, when I was threatening the massacre of 690 00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:30.920 the bar. That's the only time I've told something I was going to do 691 00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:37.280 something like that. Nothing of that, John Cho doctors, We'll just get 692 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:44.199 the signatures in your names. Can you see good enough? Right now? 693 00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:49.000 I've been trying to open the eyes. It just won't work. Do you 694 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:54.039 have any problem giving us authorization to get your medical records from your doctors as 695 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:58.599 in your permission? Well, we need your permission. Yeah, I'll go 696 00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:04.679 for it. Okays, my god, I got caught, so now I 697 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.320 have to accept it. That's all I'm going for that. Well, I 698 00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.400 appreciate your cooperating with us, that's for sure. Real quick, right here, 699 00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.639 I need you to open your eyes. So you can see some of 700 00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:15.199 this so I can read it to you. Okay, this is just an 701 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:32.519 authorization disclosed protected health information. I'll put your name on here. Well, 702 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:37.519 he's doing that. I just have a couple of questions about the the OCD 703 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.320 you were kind of and and I'm asking because I don't understand. I don't 704 00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:45.320 understand it. I don't know much about it. You were seeing the thing 705 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:50.519 about the bedroom furniture and about the cologne. Is there any other examples that 706 00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:59.599 you can tell me about that that would really get under your skin. I 707 00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:02.760 can't confront anybody. That's why I've been holding my anger and too. I've 708 00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:08.199 been taking people's crap for so long. If like if I, if I 709 00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:10.960 get hit or anything, then I have no choice but to kill them. 710 00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:15.119 So that's why I've been backing down from fights and all that. Okay, 711 00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:22.599 people started not to take me seriously or anything. When I said I would 712 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:27.039 mess somebody up, I didn't mean fighting. I meant statistically, okay, 713 00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:32.039 And you've never heard anybody before. I never wanted to. When I when 714 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.840 I get your journal, I start reading your journal, Are you gonna have 715 00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.519 notes and stuff about this and there? Oh? Yeah, I'm Oh, 716 00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:44.239 you knew some things. I was gonna be in there? What else? 717 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.320 What would you say? I'm telling you what's gonna something that's about louts. 718 00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:53.039 What's gonna be in there? What's in there? Oh? Just what we've 719 00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:57.199 been talking? Oh? Okay, So you've been writing all this stuff down, 720 00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:00.039 yeah before you acted it out. Yeah. I wrote it just to 721 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:06.559 get people to understand even though there was gonna be no forgiveness. So in 722 00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:09.440 essence, you thought maybe you might die during this situation, and you wanted 723 00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:13.719 people to know that's the plan. I was planning to die this whole time. 724 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:22.360 Okay, But as far as your I'm just shutting the door here. 725 00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:30.239 As as far as your pod, someone taking your personal belongings was real bothersome 726 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:34.519 to you, such as your bedroom furniture and your cologne. Uh huh. 727 00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:39.440 And then confronting people are standing up to him was really bothersome. Was there 728 00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:46.639 anything else that was that really pissed you off? Or ever? Since I 729 00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:51.480 got to my hate started this building up because the guys have to get away. 730 00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:53.960 We're talking to crap about me, and I had thought to help killing 731 00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:57.880 I'm poisoning their beer. I mentioned that in the right away the bar. 732 00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.400 Yeah, okay, it's not like to me and my dad would go there. 733 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:06.400 Yeah, I know where it is. So Aaron, real quick, 734 00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:07.360 if you can take a peek at this, I'm gonna read this to you. 735 00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:13.639 This is an authorization disclosed protected health information, and I'm going to send 736 00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.719 one to each of your doctors, okay, And the information to be released 737 00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:22.400 is summary of medical history and treatment, nurse doctor notes, social worker notes, 738 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.679 emergency roomin records, lab or diagnostic tests, radiology records or films, 739 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:34.000 or any other medical information related to you. This state I understand that the 740 00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.800 information in my health record may include information related to sexually transmit disease, acquired 741 00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:44.480 immune deficiency syndrome AIDS, or human immune deficiency virus HIV. My health record 742 00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:49.320 may also include information about behavioral mental health services and treatment for alcohol and drug 743 00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:51.840 abuse. By checking the box at the end of the sense, I choose 744 00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:55.440 to exclude the more sensitive information about behavioral mental health services and treatments for alcohol 745 00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:00.320 and drug abuse. I understand that M maybe charge additional fee for the movable 746 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.360 of this information. Do you have any problem with us looking at that stuff? 747 00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:07.320 Well? Okay. Health information shall be released to the c Police department. 748 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:10.519 In addition, medical facility staff may discuss my medical condition in any treatment 749 00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:15.719 with the assigned detective or his or designe. I understand that this authorization expires 750 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:20.920 in ninety days unless otherwise specified, and that the disclosed informations are protected under 751 00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:24.960 State and federal law forty two CFR Part two and RCW seventy point twenty four. 752 00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:30.280 I reserve the right revoke authorization in writing at any time prior to the 753 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:36.480 ninety days period expiration. Accepted to accept that the facility, the facility which 754 00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.480 is to release information, has already taken action in accordance with it. Sound 755 00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:43.719 good, okay, and I need your signature right here, partner when I 756 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:50.440 talk to open market called fav again. Okay, can you look real quick? 757 00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:53.800 Oh no, Well, whatever he had in that thing, oh, 758 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:59.159 it's an oil based prepper spray, and that's why it stays with you a 759 00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:02.280 lot longer. That's the only problem I had to give us security props. 760 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:08.320 He was pretty brave. Well, I did have let it have a dysfunctional 761 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:14.360 barrel, so it made it easier for him, And it was my fault 762 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:15.519 for not breaking. When was the last time you test fired your gun? 763 01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:21.719 Uh? Over? At the range. Yeah, oh, that was that 764 01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:23.280 was a while ago, probably, Okay, that was that was probably marbled 765 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:27.039 twenty one maybe. Okay, so it's been a while since you fired that 766 01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.199 shotgun. Yeah, okay, I think you can sign this writer for me. 767 01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:45.039 Can you look a little not yet, Okay, I'll come back and 768 01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:47.280 get it signed with you. Okay, Okay. Now we're gonna see about 769 01:00:47.280 --> 01:01:00.920 getting some dry stuff so we can wipe your eyes a little better. Huh 770 01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:43.519 huh. But hm m m m m m hm. Oh, yere, 771 01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.280 Yeah, it's a catch of Cooper gut five. Do you have a computer 772 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:51.840 at home or anything like that? Yeah, And were you communicating on any 773 01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:53.679 of this about this stuff on on your computer or do you have anything stored 774 01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:58.400 on your computer? No? I didn't play anything on there. Okay, 775 01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:02.880 written every single on my in my journal journal. How about Facebook or anything 776 01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:13.480 like that. The only thing I did on Facebook today was trying to I 777 01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:20.840 messaged. I messaged one of my friends saying we should have Oh too bad, 778 01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.159 we didn't. We weren't able to kick it because I don't know, 779 01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:30.880 just to get a reaction from him, okay, also to feel some remorse. 780 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:52.199 It was a mixture of that. Okay, hm hm him here now 781 01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:57.119 you're feeling it still the same as still strong, trying to use the the 782 01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:01.480 dry paper napkins right here and tried white down on your eyeballs. If you 783 01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:06.119 can't, I know it's gonna be a little bracist. Hey when you went 784 01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.239 up there today, huh and you got out of your car, what were 785 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:14.599 you wearing? I was wearing my my fish shirt, just to be casual 786 01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:17.639 and up and it's the lesson to remind me of the good times because I'm 787 01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:22.079 big on troll fishing. Okay, did you have that sweat jacket on too? 788 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:25.960 I put it on before I started loading up my shelves. Okay, 789 01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:30.280 do you have glasses on it? I have always one glasses? What kind 790 01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:35.840 of what type? I don't know what kind they They're probably on the they 791 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:40.320 they got glasses, No, they were there are regular glasses? Are prescription 792 01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:44.480 prescription? Yeah? I got knocked off my glasses when he took me down. 793 01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:54.880 Okay, but nothing else? No? Okay, Hey Aaron, how 794 01:03:54.880 --> 01:04:00.639 are the eyes doing well? Working on it? Don't matter? Ah? 795 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:04.199 Still, Oh, I don't know what means that oil stuff whatever? That 796 01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:10.199 wasn't the spray stuff. Yeah, I kind of takes a while. We 797 01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:18.039 need to take some photographs of you if we could, so I need you 798 01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:23.159 to stand up for me. I'll kind of help you out. I about 799 01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:27.840 my partner Frank here, So if you hear another person here, I'm gonna 800 01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:33.199 kind of guide you over here. It's me and I might have just kind 801 01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.679 of a big white wall right here. But I'm just gonna have you stand 802 01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:42.280 first this way, and then I'll just ask you to kind of rotate as 803 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:45.400 I take pictures. Okay, Okay, I don't know if I could open 804 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:49.039 my eyes room, you know, you don't have to open your at Okay, 805 01:04:56.719 --> 01:05:00.039 now he's about them after this, certainly that would be perfect. We 806 01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:16.199 need to get your clothes. Oh water really hit me? Yeah, I'm 807 01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:24.760 gonna have a turn to your left, perfect, Turn to your left again, 808 01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:35.719 yeah, perfect, One more turn and then face me again. Turn 809 01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:53.000 this again. Can you hold your hands out for me? Just straight up, 810 01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:59.400 just like straight up this way, kind of fan them out like that? 811 01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:13.079 Can you put them up? Is that funny? Do you have any 812 01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:17.480 tattoos or anything? Just one might shoulder blade? Okay, let's go ahead 813 01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:31.440 and uh take your sweatshirt off, probably peppers brown all this clothes out. 814 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:46.920 Okay, we'll just put that in. Okay, go ahead and take a 815 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:55.039 T shirt off. We're gonna give you a white sweet to put on, 816 01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:08.480 and then let me take a quick pick of your chum too, okay, 817 01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:12.199 and then we're gonna escort you to the bathroom and then we'll get the rust 818 01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:19.079 of your clothes. Okay, why this quasi guy you here? Oh, 819 01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:27.639 maybe you can rinse your eyes while you're in there room and when you're when 820 01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.039 you're in this other room will have a change into this white scause there's no 821 01:07:30.280 --> 01:08:01.960 camera. H oh there funny you right here ei there? Pay as you 822 01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:10.039 are? Sure? Will you right out about? Why? Will? Why 823 01:08:10.079 --> 01:09:15.199 do you? Okay? Another word? Where did you try? Right? 824 01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:24.640 Okay? Where do you look up? Like? Going here? Your heart 825 01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:30.319 up for a second? Tick, that's what we gotta do. Okay, 826 01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:34.960 what do you have your hans do? Superki? I'm trying to have one 827 01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:44.159 older eye about talper? What what do people? Old parts were us? 828 01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:46.920 Little? Other people would take this wong? Yeah? You real talk? 829 01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:56.920 Did you say p? It's probably always means in pools wars? Definitely the 830 01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:11.640 seven little you know that VALI rate a little valid room again. Yeah, 831 01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:19.159 that's okay, right back, really kind all that black? Get it slow 832 01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:25.840 forward? All right? Security about this scum bag? Can you turn right? 833 01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:33.359 Is here in the room? Keep walking here to you see the chair 834 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:42.399 chairs right behind you? Know, so you want some more water? Yes? 835 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:46.800 I would listen and then you can continue with these days paper towels. 836 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:54.520 My nose keeps running. Yes, it's from the the spray and it opens 837 01:10:54.640 --> 01:11:00.000 up your uh mucus membrane. And and because it's hot, it makes your 838 01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:05.520 nose run. Oh you like pepper with makes your snowy? Okay, So 839 01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:10.319 it's it's normal. So just there's tissue or napkins in front of you if 840 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:14.079 you just want away your nose. Your voice reminds me of one of the 841 01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:18.239 drug and alcoholic counselors I had. I liked talking to her. No how 842 01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:26.000 long you've been in counseling for drug and alcohol or or a psychotherapy both drug 843 01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:29.479 and alcohol. I was in for a year because of my duy h. 844 01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:33.760 I completed that, Oh okay, psychotherapy two and a half years. Do 845 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:41.359 you have a diagnosis uh OCD and transient psychosis? Oh okay, all right, 846 01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:46.800 need anything else hereon? Are you guys? I think I'll be fine. 847 01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:51.119 Okay, knock them into her if you need something, okay, okay, 848 01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:32.079 m oh you can see better? Yeah, you look much better. 849 01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:38.279 Hey. Uh so here's those medical forms. I read them to you already. 850 01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:41.439 Basically, I just need your signature on this one right here. Okay. 851 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:44.199 Do you want a candy bar or anything like that? Bag of chips 852 01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:49.960 or anything like that? Yeah, I'm hungry. Okay, would you have 853 01:12:54.199 --> 01:13:00.800 that one right there? Same aspire. We're living on our chips. But 854 01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:02.000 I'll see what I can dig up for you. Still type per second. 855 01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:39.359 That's fine. M okay, I'm gonna give you a choice, cool ranch 856 01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:43.399 or nachos or both? Oh cool ranch? You want both? Oh? 857 01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:50.039 Yeah, work okay, this type per second about about a day. M 858 01:13:50.279 --> 01:14:30.640 m m m m m m m m. How are you doing? Your 859 01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:34.239 eyes are open? Yeah? How are you feeling? Oh it's a little 860 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:38.760 better, better done? Some more water or I need to use a restroom 861 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:43.560 again. Okay, you want a coke or anything? Or water? Yeah? 862 01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:46.880 Olt Terence, coke too? Come all right, Sorry about the delay. 863 01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:50.439 We're just as before. Get something. You know what's done? All 864 01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:53.800 right? How did you really have to go? I don't sorry about that. 865 01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:58.560 About that not open door? Oh yeah, we're right up here a 866 01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:10.960 go. Oh yeah, well, now you drink a lot of coffee, 867 01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:15.000 the gases in my system gets held in as well. Yeah yeah. Do 868 01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:18.199 you have coffee this marine? Yeah? I drink a lot. I'm a 869 01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:21.880 mean addict. Oh you are? Yeah? Just playing on coffee? Or 870 01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:26.800 are you a Starbucks person? Uh? Not as much Starbucks as I used 871 01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:30.079 to. I I go to Espresso stance coffee taste better. Oh yeah, 872 01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:33.880 yeah. What was I gonna ask you? Oh? I Detective Cooper. 873 01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:39.399 When you get a search warrant, we're gonna get a blood sample okay, 874 01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:42.920 okay, And so we're just waiting for that to get signed, okay, 875 01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:46.439 and then we're gonna uh go up to the hospital, get a quick blood 876 01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:50.800 sample, and then book you into King County too. Okay, okay. 877 01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:58.039 Do you have any questions or what's the blood sample for? Well, just 878 01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:02.079 to make sure that there's no drugs in your system, okay, or alcohol 879 01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:06.640 or anything word like that. Okay. It's just kind of one of those 880 01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:14.279 precautionary things that we do. Okay, okay, do you have any questions 881 01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:24.520 of us or that I can answer for you? M M Now it's pretty 882 01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:27.640 much all it to you. Okay, Well, if you have a question 883 01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.039 or you want to talk about anything. Oh, I do have one thing. 884 01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:35.840 I ask them how the people that I shot, how are they doing? 885 01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:39.920 There's a reason why I'm not in this. Okay, what's your reason 886 01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:45.199 name? Oh? But I thought about what I did because the senses is 887 01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:51.199 supposed to be a suicide matter. I stopped caring. But when I picked 888 01:16:51.239 --> 01:16:59.159 her his body, dropping her screaming, M felt a little different now that 889 01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:01.800 you're not dead. Nah, I'm not dead, y'all. Okay, Well, 890 01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:08.199 I don't know the status of everybody, but I can try to find 891 01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:14.640 out for you. Yeah, I've been thinking about that, and I didn't. 892 01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:17.880 I felt like I didn't care at first because I was supposed to die. 893 01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:25.880 But now things it's changed. Like I I still don't have that kind 894 01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:30.119 of like that empathy mode where I couldn't shed a tear for it. I've 895 01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:33.159 taken it lightly because I don't know how to feel bad anymore. But I 896 01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:38.119 do think about it. Yeah, you still have that hate in you, 897 01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:42.319 do you still feel? Yeah? Yeah, it's not really I want to 898 01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:48.319 destroy the world anymore. Just said, I just want to get out of 899 01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:56.920 this world. So do you think doing this event kind of kind of like 900 01:17:57.079 --> 01:18:01.760 release some pressure from you? Yeah, yuh, kind of expressing it made 901 01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:06.920 a lot of pressure go away. Cause I never held in I I've held 902 01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:12.479 in my anger for so long, and and the stuff that was making me 903 01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:16.239 go crazy just turn things around for me caused humiliation, which caused even more 904 01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:20.399 hate. And I was going out of control. I couldn't control my who 905 01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:27.960 I was. And and uh, even when people say they understand, they 906 01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:32.800 don't know how serious what I was going through. They like I was unstoppable, 907 01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:38.760 like an like a freight train with no conductor. Yeah, like I 908 01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:41.800 was just on the go. My mind, my state of mind was on 909 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:46.000 the go. It was just complete darkness. Yeah. Do you sleep well? 910 01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:53.520 Do you sleep at night? Yeah? You sleep? Okay, Well, 911 01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:58.880 I'll see if I can find out for you about the people. Like 912 01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:02.359 I said, I've been here the whole time, so I haven't been out. 913 01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:05.680 There were some detectives are out working in the scene and whatnot. So 914 01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:11.319 cause now I if I did have a chance, I wish I'd just turned 915 01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:15.880 the gun on myself, but I still couldn't. I couldn't help myself. 916 01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:18.960 It was just getting too exciting. What I thought of Eric Harrison's song we 917 01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:25.359 Chow doing their rampage is just and the and mixture and my hate just maitt 918 01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:28.439 it. So those guys are kind of like caros to you. Well, 919 01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:30.840 they became idols. Ever since the past two years when I started going into 920 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:34.760 my hatred, which one is suddenly Chow he's a Virginia, tex shooter, 921 01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:42.399 I started admired the bloodshed that was described, and I admired Eric Harris's hate. 922 01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:46.159 What he just like he hated everything and everyone wanted to destroy the world 923 01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:51.720 and no one was Everyone thinks are too good for him just has to die 924 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:59.399 and just mixed mixed in with my hate. And it's like when I said 925 01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:02.840 everything he has a everyone has a every situation has a price to pay, 926 01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:06.760 like that was part of it. It's like the price that was a price 927 01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:14.279 to pay. Nah, it just doesn't matter anymore. Things are different now 928 01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:19.479 and I don't know, Well, it was a prison out there anyway, 929 01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:25.199 so it won't be any different. People I can't trust be miserable all the 930 01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:31.399 time. Have you ever been suicidal before this? Yeah? I don't really 931 01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:35.680 telling people. Yes, I have constantly, especially when I'm during my drinking. 932 01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:41.279 It's like all this like when my stuff got taken away. My parents 933 01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:44.479 wouldn't understand. They didn't even want to understand. When you're trying to say, 934 01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:46.800 took your bedroom set away? Why didn't they do that, Aaron? 935 01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:50.640 Cause I've had it for a while. They said it had to go. 936 01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:55.439 I was trying to tell them. So I was trying to tell them, 937 01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:00.920 but they kept denying it and ignoring my issues, and I just kept drinking, 938 01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:05.039 my drinking, my way to sorrow. I kept scaring my friends, 939 01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:10.640 and they couldn't think that. They didn't do anything. I kept begging for 940 01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:15.600 my family's support. They just they just said, go to therapy. But 941 01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:20.119 I but that wasn't the case yet. They had to work with me on 942 01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:25.439 it. They couldn't. They were trying to force me. Did they replace 943 01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:28.439 your bedroom set or didn't you? Yeah? They'p on the floor or what 944 01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.560 happened? Yeah? Everyplace? It with the hospital bed on my cousin that 945 01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:41.199 my mom's cousins slept. Uh, that was in my in my great aunt's 946 01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:46.279 room before she passed. I'm sure she thought just take getting about from behind 947 01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:50.479 my back, it would just make everything go away. And I I have 948 01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:56.600 no choice but to accept it. I was trying to tell everybody, let's 949 01:21:56.680 --> 01:21:59.239 know, I did, and they were just trying to They were denying me, 950 01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:01.640 and they were ignoring my issues until I said I went to therapy and 951 01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:08.439 everything was becoming worse for me. It wasn't. I was trying to use 952 01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:11.880 alcohol as a tool to keep myself calm because I know how I was getting, 953 01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:15.159 because I know I was going to pick up and I'd either step myself 954 01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:18.279 or step someone off the street. So I try to find a way to 955 01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:24.800 medicate myself. And that's been going on for a year because I've been going 956 01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:27.119 with crazy. I needed something to calm me down. But I drank too 957 01:22:27.199 --> 01:22:30.319 much alcohol where that mixed and but I was a well with alcohol. I 958 01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:34.640 can only express it with words. I'm not kickable, I'm I can't. 959 01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:40.479 I'm not focused to do with physical things only when I'm sober. Yeah, 960 01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:45.159 but I've been underestimated by my family because I'm not the kind of person that 961 01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:48.760 would do that because I'd back down from fight. I get all emotional. 962 01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:54.239 That was a reason why I was doing that, because because I, oh, 963 01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:57.399 see do you think it? I had requirements I couldn't I couldn't stop 964 01:22:57.439 --> 01:23:01.640 myself. I couldn't even tell myself no without even doing it. And and 965 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:05.439 and that's why I was backing down all fights. If someone confronted me, 966 01:23:05.479 --> 01:23:09.680 I would I would threaten'em to say oh. And and if they dare 967 01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:14.079 try to hit me or steal from me, and something's going something's going down 968 01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.479 one of us is someone's gonna die and it's not gonna beat me. All 969 01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:20.840 right? How how was high school for you? I was going to school 970 01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:25.039 through through high school. I wish I went to a high school were in 971 01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:29.439 a way, cause I was lonely and I think I went into a psychotic 972 01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:32.760 mode where I was living in fantasy. Did your mom home to school you? 973 01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:36.880 Yeah, we went to a resource program. I made quite a few 974 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:42.079 friends here, but we all were all just kids with attention. Yeah, 975 01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:46.479 all right. Well, I wanted people to understand how serious I was, 976 01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:51.479 what's going on, and I I knew I what I was capable of, 977 01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:57.079 And I was trying to get people to understand. I knew going to just 978 01:23:57.199 --> 01:24:00.520 going to the therapy wasn't gonna help it. I need be I need them 979 01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:02.840 to work on it with me, and cause there's a certain time. But 980 01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:05.560 when there's there's a cut off time until I can move on to the next 981 01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:10.359 step. And things were about to and then I went. When I was 982 01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:18.800 done with the school court, things were get getting ready to be get better 983 01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:23.760 for me. I was starting to mature out of that out out of that 984 01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:29.359 stage and going to the next one. Okay, all right, my man, 985 01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:30.920 all right, let me go see what I could find out for you. 986 01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:34.479 Okay, okay, and we'll try to get this as quickly as we 987 01:24:34.600 --> 01:24:40.199 can. I felt like I realized that I am no Eric Harris at all, 988 01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:45.000 but I felt like I did before going through my hatred. Now I'm 989 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:51.720 thinking about what happened. Someone would have done that to me then I would 990 01:24:51.720 --> 01:24:59.079 have been horrible. I could have been Oh I wonder what I would be 991 01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:06.800 like if I was in Yeah, okay, I still can't shed a tear 992 01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:12.079 for them, but I do think about what happened. Okay, now that 993 01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:16.279 I'm not dead, it's no a little more serious than it. Now. 994 01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:18.960 You just kind of gotta deal with it. R Now you gotta Now, 995 01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:24.720 I gotta deal with consequences. Yeah, yeah, What do you think should 996 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:38.119 happen to somebody that does something like what you have done? Oh? Well, 997 01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:45.199 uh, I would say, mm, either if they if they're unstable, 998 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:50.439 just give'em the health they need, and if they're stables and make 999 01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:55.840 'em deal with with what they knew what was coming. Well, how how 1000 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.760 would how would one make'em deal with it? MM? I don't know 1001 01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:04.840 what you're asking. What if it was somebody else that did what you did 1002 01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:09.439 and they were sitting where you're sitting, what do you think? What do 1003 01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:13.760 you think the consequences should be for that person? Well, I know I'm 1004 01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:17.239 going to prison. Do you think that's the consequ the correct consequence for that? 1005 01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:25.000 Well, I don't know. Well if the all depends on their situation. 1006 01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:30.600 But like I know, some people go to mental lords in the hospital 1007 01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:35.000 that sometimes helps them. But some people who would who don't even care what 1008 01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:44.880 they did. But let's say no, let's say like like you won't like, 1009 01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:48.119 should we use that shooting an example or just any murderous crime? That's 1010 01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:51.520 okay. I was just wondering if you had thought about that. Well, 1011 01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:55.960 I knew what would have happened to me because what I did, I did 1012 01:26:56.039 --> 01:27:00.199 what I did, and I got caught and I don't know when joy except 1013 01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:05.039 whether I was going to prison or uh looney then okay, all right, 1014 01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:10.600 well I will be back in a little bit, okay, okay, ah, 1015 01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:13.279 all right, you knock in the door if you need something, sure 1016 01:27:13.359 --> 01:28:26.640 thing, okay, okay, I can't shut it to you by people care 1017 01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:29.840 and ready go Canna tell you about them when we're talking. You can