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Eliams here. We got Jay with
breaking news. This is II on the

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Ball Breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. All right, we talked about

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this just a little bit yesterday that
Washington State and Oregon State, their non

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football and basketball sports would be going
in would be going into the West Coast

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Conference. That makes sense. The
vote of the West Coast Conference took place

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today and it was unanimous to bring
them in. Baseball is still up in

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the air. They've given them some
time to decide whether baseball is also going

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to go in there. But the
non revenue sports for Washington, Washington State

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have Oregon State in Washington State have
a place to go, and they're gonna

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be in the West Coast Conference for
now. So anyways, that's a thing

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that's you know, just one thing, one of those things hanging out there,

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you know, to me, what
what ultimately the final things that happened

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with the PAC TWELP to me is
is interesting. So anyways, I don't

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know. Well, that's good.
At least some people found home for now,

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you know, it'll be still continue
to compete on the West coast and

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stuff like that. It'll be all
right. Along similar lines, the Florida

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State A Board of Trustees is meeting
Friday morning. People believe it's it's speculation

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that this is going to be like
a first step into getting out of the

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ACC because they're just not happy with
or get at the at the very least

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getting the grand of rights that contract
that goes to like twenty thirty six.

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Getting out of that so they can
freely try and you know, figure out

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a way to get more money for
their one of their foot all and whatnot.

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They've been complaining, you know for
months since you know, with all

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this stuff going on, they feel
like they're not getting their share. What

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they want is they want more of
a share of the football month YEA than

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the other a SEC schools, and
they can't right now because of the grant

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of rights contract that is for another
decade or more. So they're very unhappy,

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but it's the first step to take
in doing that. I was gonna

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ask you a dumb question, like
I asked dumb questions. It seems like,

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and every generation has its issues.
That college sports has never been more

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complicated than it is now. And
I'm not talking nil and all that stuff.

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Everybody wants something. Everybody wants something. You know what about me,

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I bring you more money, I
want more money. And it's every man

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for himself pretty much. And that's
that's the thing. That's the thing that

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bothers me more than anything. Well, you know what, you know what,

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what happened to these conferences? You
know, having to having some tradition,

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having that be important to them and
and kind of working together to make

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whatever their whatever situation they think is
terrible with them working together and make it

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better. Instead USC and u c
l A jump to the big ten for

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for a big paycheck. How good
is that gonna be for U c l

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A. It's gonna be awful.
Are they gonna be able to solve their

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financial problems? Maybe? But that's
a that's a big maybe for the step

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that they're taking. And they just
said, to hell with one hundred years

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of what we've been doing. And
let's go, let's go try and get

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a bigger paycheck somewhere. And that's
the thing that's most bothersome to me.

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So then and then that, you
know, and we'll go back further into

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Oklahoma and Texas saying you know what, uh, you know, we're gonna

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go to the SEC because there's more
money for And that started the ball that

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got the ball roll definitely. I
remember that day and we were thinking what,

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yeah, what and then all of
a sudden everything else happens. Yeah,

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so well, you know Florida State
now and and obviously this whole thing

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of getting you know, not get
into the playoff as the ACC Championship as

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AC champion is fueling this as well. But somebody said, okay, so

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let's say you break the grant of
rights. What are you gonna do?

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You want to go to the SEC
where now you're the king of the hill

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right now in the ACC, you
automatic bid to the playoff. You're gonna

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get in the playoff every year if
you stay in the ACC. Why would

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you go to the SEC where you
can possibly drop to six in the in

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the SEC? Why would you want
to do that? How stupid are you?

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We'll go to Oklahoma, will come
Texas with se Oklahoma, Texas,

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LSU, Alabama, Georgia. Uh
you know, I mean, why would

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you? Why would you do that? Which I don't understand why Oklahoma and

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Texas did that? You know,
it's like, okay, good luck Steve

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Sarkis and winning in the SEC.
You know, if it took you till

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this year to win a Big twelve
conference championship, what the hell are you

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doing? Makes no sense to me? Right anyway? So all right,

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so there's that. Hey, Arizona
got in the picked up another guy football

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yep today yep, Redchard freshman out
of Western Kentucky. He's a transfer in

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Western Kentucky. He's a long snapper. It's name, Seriously, he's a

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long snapper. Troy Notton played at
thirteen games for Western Kentucky last year.

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He's from Tucson. Played it out. Okay, so he's coming back home.

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Not three years of avault ability.
Nice to be a specialized to be

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rescug nice. Yeah. You know, hey, man, if you can

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get a scholarship or played for a
college football team by doing that, man

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more power too. You've got to
love you. But I think long snappers

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get all the chicks. So that's
heard. That's what you've heard. Okay.

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Oh, here's following up on that. On that Oregon State Washington State

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thing. Their baseball teams have thirty
days to let the w c C know

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if they're coming. There's some conversation
that they could take baseball to the Big

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twelve and just play baseball in the
Big twelve because their their baseball programs are

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pretty good. Oregon State, you
know, went back to back national championship,

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so I think they would rather play
in a bigger conference. But they're

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splitting up the whole athletic department.
It's going all over the place, all

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over the country, all right.
Uh shocker, shock, shock, not

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shocked. Shoe a Otani the AP
Male Athlete of the Year second time in

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three years. And this is not
baseball. This male Athlete of the Year

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for two out of three years now, so just man, just you know.

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And he's a Dodger now, so
I think we're all happy about that.

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Well, see he's not gonna pitch. You know, he can't pitch.

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So is it nice to have that
another bat like that? That wasn't

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what kept the Dodgers out of this
is answer, no question, here on

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the state. I don't even know
how me in Hollingwood, are you pregnant

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or I'm gonna say they can,
but I don't know this show hate being

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in the batting that's not an answer. Of course they can show hate being

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in the batting order doesn't it improves
them. But they needed, they needed,

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they need pitching, yeah, and
they did. They have gone out

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pitcher. They're trying to sign this
other, this other Japanese pitcher that everybody's

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after. Uh. If they get
a guy like that, yeah, you

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know, then they should. But
you know they're the favorites again. Right,

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I'm looking two years down the road
to see when he comes when when

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show hate, you know, is
pitching as well? Right? Did you

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know that the Detroit Pistons have lost
twenty four games? Yes, they're horrible,

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twenty four and then their coach we
talked about this or who do we

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talking about? Uh? With someone
that we called, uh maybe one of

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the Phoenix guys. And he's he's
getting paid a ton of money. He's

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one, he's the highest paid coach. Yeah, second one because the other

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guy is bad too. Whoever's getting
paid? Second? His business is not

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doing well as well. But yeah, yeah, they're horrible. You barely

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know any guys on the team.
You get fired if you lose twenty four

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games in a row. They just
signed him, I know, they just

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signed him to a massive contract.
Yeah, is Stanley Johnson still with him?

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More Stanny Johnson. I don't know
where he's at. But they've got

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they've got a game with the Utah
Jazz tonight, Utah with a bunch of

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guys out, including Larry Mark really
who's not playing tonight. So there's a

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lot of there's a lot of uh, you know, discussion that this could

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be where the where the streak ends. It almost makes you want to find

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that game and watch it to see
what happens. Oh god, watching this

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league. I don't know where Stanley
Johnson is right now. Uh. The

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Major League Baseball Players Association, there
were some proposed rule changes out there,

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nothing major. The biggest one was
taking a couple of seconds off the pitch

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clock, widening the uh the runners
lane you know on the base past night.

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Nothing major, but the Major League
Baseball player said, nope, we

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don't want any of that. We
are, you know, let's just stay

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where we are for a little bit
and see how that works before making any

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more changes. But because they had
a bunch of rules changes last year,

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that worked out. So here's a
weird one ski for your Dallas Cowboys.

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So, you know the Cowboys,
you know, they got their butts beat

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by Buffalo last week, thirty one
to ten. It was an awful loss.

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They just looked they just looked terrible. And there were, you know

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a few players who stood out in
terms of, you know, playing poorly.

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So Cowboys fans went out and put
like there's cell phone numbers and home

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addresses on social media for fans to
call and go and rip them, and

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and and was some some Cowboys fans
put their personal information on social media.

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The players, oh, the players
personal information on social media, Like I

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think, uh, what's his name? That makes you wanted? What the

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what the hell is going on?
U? Uh? Juan Ye Thomas one

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of the you know, one of
the one of the safeties who had a

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particularly bad game. They put they
put his cecial number, So all of

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a sudden, he's getting sext from
fans or you know, pissed at him

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and yelling at him. I don't
know if there were any death threats or

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anything like that, but It's like, what the hell, How stupid do

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you have to be to do that? I mean, and I use that

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word whatever, We use that word
because it fits someone. It's like when

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when the kids scouring missed the field
goal and then you got people. Really

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it's that important, yeah, that
you have to do that. And then

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one of the other players, Jay
Ron Kurse, they put his home address

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on social media, like go to
his house and yell at him or something.

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I'm like, what are you doing? Your speechless? Oh yeah,

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I mean, come on, these
dudes deserves something, and these dudes that

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are doing this deserve something. Hanging
by some body part uh, Thomas said

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in the Dallas Morning He said,
I can take criticism, but you do

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cross the line when you start doing
dumb stuff like that. For real,

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it's a line you can't cross when
you start sharing people's addresses and numbers and

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stuff. At the end of the
day, this is still a game.

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People got to get a light.
They do, I mean, honestly,

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they do. He said he had
to change his cell phone number that people

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were texting me and calling me.
I'm like, I don't even know how

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people can leak your numbers. Well, I don't know if you remember this,

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but it was a story that I
did for the paperback in the day

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and part of a book for Channing
Fry back in when he was a senior.

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He went to Seattle, Seattle and
played in Washington. I think there

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was a senior year with Hassan Adams
and them that they the kids knew he

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was dating whatever, and he got
his ad they get it his phone number

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and started yelling to see blah blah
did it to the whole game. So

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he thought it was kind of funny. He admitted after the game that it

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was not the right number. He
said that, no, but it was,

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but it was, it was.
He was trying to get people off

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right. He was long, and
he said he got the funniest messages after

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the fact, because you know,
the people left their messages. Yeah,

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come on, I know, Steve, I know, I know. I

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mean you and I sitting here going
what the hell are you doing? But

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fans are fans, and there's dumbasses
out there who do that. So yeah,

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dumbs, that's a good word.
You don't even have to you don't

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even have to push the dumb button
on the all right, Okay, couple

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mores last day, probably compo conversation
here, big game Boomer coming up with

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another ranking. Did you see this
one the best shooting guards? Nope,

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top fifty best head football coaches of
twenty twenty three. Oh, Jim Fish

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is to number five. Where do
you think? Five? Five? That's

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a little high? High or low? You're high? Take a little lower?

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Ten, eight, eight? He
comes into eight. Who's one?

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Washington, Kalin Debor Washington, Steve
Sarkisiana, Texas, Nick Saban Alabama,

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Jim Harbaugh Michigan, Mike Norval Florida
State, Kirby's Smart, Georgia Eli drink

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wits at Missouri, and then Jedfish. What's what's the criteria? What's the

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label? Just said? Oh,
top fifty best head coaches of the twenty

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twenty three seasons. So the rest
of the top ten is Brent Vennables,

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who's facing jet Fish and the Almo
Bulls, and then lang Kiff. Nothing

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that I want to disagree with that, Paul. What I just want to

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just so if you were doing this
and that's the criteria, wouldn't you think

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And I'm not defending the jet the
job that he did. He was expected

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to finish eighth ninth in the league. Apples to apples, Yeah, apples

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to apples. He was probably the
best guy there. I think you put

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yeah, I think you put him
up Hire killing deer boor you know that's

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Washington. Okay, yeah, I
mean he's in my top five, you

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know. I mean, how good
of a job did Harbor do? He

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barely coached the game right, he
missed he missed another another. You know,

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Kirby Smart, how much coaching did
he really have to do? Right?

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I mean equal parts equal parts there? Sure? I mean, yes,

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okay, do you give Kirby Smart
credit for bringing in those players that

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he's winning with? I guess if
you're doing that. But but really,

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if you look at it, you
know, drink with the Missouri coach and

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Jed Fish, the Arizona coach,
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quote unquote hierarchy of Collor. And
I say this, we only have a

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few seconds. But if Dion Sanders
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Jed does or did, yeah,
he's he was mad at the year four

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Sports Illustrated. What the hell did
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think he was in the ranking?
Twenty? No way down forty six?

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Oh, just made the list,
barely made the list. So apples to

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apples again. Yeah, and what
time? Just this year? Is he

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a better coach than that? He
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year. Yeah, that's where they
put. Okay, all right, let's

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let's take our break. We're go
come back. John mordech old friend of

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ours from the back in our media
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day skips, still a media guy. But we'll be back and talk to

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How you doing John, I'm doing
well. It's great to be what's

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you guys again? Let me say
this, I'm gonna sit you up here.

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So now he works as as a
big boss for a corporate type of

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retailer. And what prepared you for
this job that you happened? You know

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what? I honestly think about that
after we talked today at our Citizen luncheon

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is honestly as I never had.
I'm an at home which is an at

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home home four store. There's one
store there in Tucson. There will mods

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and speedway. I believe it is. And there's six and Phoenix, So

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I mean, here's my plug.
Honestly, I had no magic experience,

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as I had to leave, leave
the turtle and get into the retail world.

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But as somebody that never really managed
a whole lot of people before I

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went back to the coaches that I've
had to cover a great length and honestly,

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I see a little Dick Tomy.
Uh, honestly, I think you've

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gone back, but I do,
and a lot of the look at their

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individual traits I am doing right now. So I thought, I thought that

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the Macavic prepared you for the bad, for the bad clients, for the

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bad you know what. I'm sometimes
yelled at black customers. So that reminded

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me of all, like get part
of my So you know, it kind

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of didn't wrap up that, Okay, Honestly, you know lut dolphins organization,

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Uh, Dick Tomy's ability to foster
culture and loyalty, and Andy Lopez's

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disability to kind of motivate people,
those those things honestly consideration, Yeah,

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all of those things stick. And
and you know, for sure, I

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think you know, we've we talk
all the time about you know, the

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experiences that we've had, whether it's
you know, you know, mine was

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out. It was out of sports
writing after I kind of got sick of

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being around all you guys for all
that time, being on the road with

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you and everything. But you know, those things do stick and you remember

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stuff. John be there. You're
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bit. Yeah, sorry, Well
I try to pull over your Yeah,

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try to do that. Yeah,
you might be in a in a bad

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spot, but that's that's fine.
Let me ask you something. You covered

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football for a long time for the
paper. Did you ever imagine that the

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program would be what it is now? We don't have to We're gonna have

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to wait for us. Yeah,
hang on, thirty seconds. I can

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pull it up right here and get
on the better okay, okay, all

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right, so he covered the team
and we'll just come well, okay,

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John John's history. I mean,
he was he was well, he was

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at the Daily Wildcat and when I
went to the yeah yeah, and then

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and then the and then the Citizen. But you know, i'll tell this

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story when when we get him back
on about the time we we white he

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white knuckled it with me from one
from Corvallis to Oregon, the rain.

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We both have an organ Okay,
okay, cool, I haven't heard that

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one. Yeah, I'm not sure
you've heard mine. That's just funny there

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yet, can you guys hear me
that much much better? Now? A

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right? So I went to a
rest area just as I got here.

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Now I have experiences with both you
guys. Jay as a student newspaper for

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the Aris little Daily Wildcat, he
helped me out a lot of a young

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club just kind of feet wet.
I remember being in Washington State and the

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game in freel Court or whatever it
is called back there got out of power

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outage. They couldn't right because of
a snowstorm, and we had to go

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with some small bowler gym that seated
three thousand. Somehow six thousand people ended

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up showing up snowstorm. Jay goes, I'll give you a ride, and

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I don't know if she had ever
driven in snow before, but it scared

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out here as he's trying to drive
around, and you go, oh,

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I'm on the spot, and he
passed it up. He spun the car

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around and pulled it in just like
a cartoon character would. There was a

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perfect, perfect spot, and I'm
going, oh, my gosh, If

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I can survive this, I can
do anything well along those lines, I

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was just telling you. Mine was
I remember you. I gave you a

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ride from Corvallis to to to Eugene
after a basketball game in the rain,

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and I drove like the Tucson guy
drives in the rain. I just hauled,

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asked because I didn't think it was
a big deal. And I just

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remember that you told somebody I don't
know if it was Steve or one of

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the other guys, that said how
scared you were at the way I was

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driving and you basically white knuckled and
I didn't even really notice. But I

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I found out from somebody else that
I scared the crap id of you on

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that drive. Yeah, I gotta, I gotta. I got a thing

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here. I have two stories,
right, and I know you were going

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to bring up that story. They
both deal with your driving. So should

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we should we apply anything with that? I was a bad driver. I

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was a Tucson weather driver. I
just didn't give a crap or or it

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was Steve. Steve's a car where
I'm suffering a kidney stone, where I'm

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in severe pain. I'm having to
go to the hospital at two o'clock in

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the morning in Eugene and I go
Steve. We were rooming together or something.

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I'm like, Steve, I got
her. I think I got to

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the hospital. He throws me the
car keys and says, just bring just

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bring, just bring it back.
That's that's kind of true. That's kind

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of no. No, it's absolutely
the circumstances of the events. We were

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staying together. He was working with
the cat Tricks at the time he stayed

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with me. Uh, he was
after a game, he was not feeling

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well, he had a kidney stone, and I was tired. I was

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late and I was tired. I
was just writing. Yeah, but the

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rest is pretty much true. Then
I get out of the hospital eight hours

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later and he goes, are you
gonna come to Portland so we can see

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Stottormire together? Like, I'm in
a lot of pains. Oh, don't

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be a woof this go too funny. So don you know again, the

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you know, the all those years
that you did cover sports and and you

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know football, you went through some
you know, some some bad, some

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good. How much do you still
pay attention to what you know, what's

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going on down here? Twos?
I mean your U of A. Guys

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a lot. You went to the
U of A? Right, are you?

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Are you like a are you a
nut job kind of fan? As

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as Steeve is implying, I am
a. I am a different person now

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than I was when I covered the
sport. Yes I am. And Steve

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gets it on a on like seven, eight, ten, twenty five text

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turn a game, Oh one of
those. Yes, I'm one of those

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now, you know. I was
like, what the haff? Why is

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he going away from his own with
two minutes left when it's got you back

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in the game and produce. You
know, why are they running the football

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here when you got a quarterback and
throw the football? So yeah, I'm

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I'm I've become one of those guys
that that wants perfection. You're not satisfied

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for anything about a w How okay? How did okay from being? I

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know you again? I know you
went to the U of A and all

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that, but you're a reporter.
Had to be impartial, you know,

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as I recall, you are pretty
good at not showing your colors. How

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did you go from that to where
you are today? I went to retail

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and needed an escape through the reality
of life, and I really want two

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hours where I'm not looking at business
recaps and sales and and great customers,

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poor customers. You know, are
you going to read the bottom line?

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So I'm looking for two hours of
escape or three hours of three and a

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half hours of escape during football season. So I look at sports completely different

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now because then it was my business. It it just it just took over

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my life, as it does when
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Now I'm watching as as a fan
that wants to be entertained. And but

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in Phoenix, it's especially when I
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know twelve thirteen years ago, Juve
wasn't very good in anything, and uh

408
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.799
I took a lot of hits from
a lot of a s U people.

409
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:14.480
And you know, to this day, I will pay attention to football,

410
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.440
basketball, golf, anything if they're
playing HU and the next day if Arizona

411
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.640
one, they're gonna hear that Arizona
b d A s U. So yeah,

412
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.839
it's it's been a complete turnaround of
trying to be unbiased and you know,

413
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.160
cover the sports. And I think
I did a pretty good job at

414
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.240
it back and in doing that to
now I don't have to I've got a

415
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:34.599
u A add on today at the
lunch and a uve A shirt. I'm

416
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.240
a I'm a wild cat and in
wildcat Land in sun devil Land. That

417
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.400
you know that the watcats are starting
to take over because they issue has nothing

418
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.079
to be proud of. No,
you're making a ton of money of having

419
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a green life. Do you do
you miss you miss I'm in those I'm

420
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.039
in those box weeks. I don't
know where where you think I'm living.

421
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.480
I'm texting you from my couch,
remember, So do you miss it?

422
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:59.279
Do you miss the craziness? I
missed? Uh, I missed like we

423
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.680
were at a lunch the I missed
the people. I missed the journalism aspect.

424
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.839
I missed journalism when it was journalism
and I loved writing. I still

425
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.680
love writing, so yes I do. But you know you have to evolve.

426
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You have to go onto the next
chapter of your life. And that's

427
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.519
what I've done well. And me
ask you would you want to be doing?

428
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.759
Would you want to be a beat
writer like at a Arizona Republic or

429
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a Daily Starts today with all that
they have to do the social media,

430
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.160
the twenty four to seven aspect of
the restrictions, right, and then that

431
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.680
the lack of access that we had, you know, the biggest thing.

432
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.480
I think I can live with everything, but the lack of access. I

433
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.000
love doing in depth features and stories
and get to know the human side of

434
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.720
the athletes, their family and you
know, we did a lot of that

435
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.400
cat tracks and as there and then
the Tussuan citizens and I love that aspect.

436
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.359
I love getting to know the people. And I think the fans back

437
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:59.000
then were bought into the athletes more
because you understood their background, where they

438
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:02.240
came from, what they were things, and they just weren't a jersey or

439
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:06.160
number. So that's that's part of
change, and I think it's a sad

440
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.319
part of the change, especially you
know with the changes of NIL and the

441
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:12.359
transfer portal. You know, now
they're just they're you know, they're they're

442
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.799
an athlete. They're part of the
team for a year or maybe two.

443
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:18.880
But I, yeah, I like
I missed the access and I would have

444
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.039
a hard time with that because you
know, there's more than just baskets and

445
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:27.039
field goals and then touchdowns. So
you talked about covering the Macovick and stoops.

446
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:32.680
Uh do you did you ever think
that they would be or oh that

447
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.960
Jeff Fish would put you put the
team in this situation three years in because

448
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:41.079
they were pretty bad. It was
it was embary something bad back here.

449
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:49.559
I mean, you know the did
you get back in the car we lost?

450
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.039
I think I think we dropped the
car. I think a coyote got

451
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:59.200
him in case grond Yeah, okay, that's not good. You back John?

452
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.559
Oh no, no, okay,
we might have to say goodbye.

453
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.960
Yeah, drop the call. We
might get him text texting a call back.

454
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.359
You know, let me ask you. I'll ask you this because and

455
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.799
look, I know you you've continued
to you know, to be in the

456
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.720
media Steed. But let's go back
to pre. Let's say pre. Yeah,

457
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.359
oh you're good. Are you there? Hey? John? We love

458
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.400
can you hear me? Yeah?
We got you Now it looked like it

459
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:33.640
just dropped you. We left you
an embarrassedly bad So, yeah, it

460
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.680
was embarrassing. Had and what what
coach fishes? John has been amazing.

461
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:45.319
Wait, it's I love the aspect
that he's brought the alumni back together feel

462
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:51.119
part of the program. I think
that lost a big turns back pick and

463
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.960
go with dos So I think it
was a big part of getting the culture

464
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:57.920
back and going a little bit Dick
Toby way, where you know, you

465
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.000
you can bring bring people from the
past and bring people from the shirt so

466
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:07.359
they can unite together. Right now, when did you when did you leave

467
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:13.599
the journalism side? When did you
get out of the media? About fourteen

468
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.480
years ago? Okay, all right, the paper Okay, so okay.

469
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.000
Think back when you think of the
time you spent as a sports writer,

470
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.519
whether it's you know, starting at
the at the Daily Wildcat and beyond,

471
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:28.160
and you think of the characters that
that you covered and outside of the obvious,

472
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.559
you know, outside of Lout,
outside of Dick Tomy, maybe even

473
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.640
you know, a mac of Acro
some of the obvious. When you think

474
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.839
about that period of time in your
life that you were doing this, who

475
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:39.359
are the guys that you think of, or maybe a couple of guys that

476
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:44.240
come to mind, say, I'll
never forget this guy for doing this or

477
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:49.440
whatever. I'm going to go back
to my first couple of years. They're

478
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.839
they're a lot of the ones.
Unfortunately, uh, Steve Kirk, Sean

479
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.559
Elliott, they're still my all time
favorites. Yeah, you know, they

480
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:01.039
just these guys that will always be
be special because that's where I first got

481
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:05.519
into the business, and they treated
me well and kind of got my foot

482
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:07.440
of that. You know what,
this is really what I want to do.

483
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.160
I want to associate with athletes like
this and coaches like that, you

484
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:14.960
know. And then uh, you
know Keith Smith, I love as a

485
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.039
quarterback for the Wildcats and just dealing
with him and talking to him, and

486
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.759
you know some of the guys from
the obviously the ninety seven championship final four

487
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:28.400
team. You know those guys.
Those guys are special and not because they

488
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.279
wanted title, but because of the
charisma in their style. So, uh,

489
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:37.400
ninety seven, Uh, you just
beaten North Carolina. What do you

490
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:44.839
do on Easter Sunday? You know
what I'm trying. Oh, come on,

491
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:50.160
we're losing you again. This is
a great story. Dang it.

492
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.759
Yeah, we lost you again.
I'm not sure. He's probably between two

493
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.440
Rocks and Casa Grand. Well,
he stopped, so it should be good.

494
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.559
In and out right. Yeah,
that's okay, we're right out.

495
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.359
Wait wait are you back? I'm
back, guys. I'm sorry. Okay,

496
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.960
so we got a minute, so
go ahead and go ahead and tell

497
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:12.599
us you're you're you're It's Sunday.
Easter Sunday, Easter Sunday. It's cold,

498
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.000
it's rainy, it's late. We've
written all day and we're trying to

499
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.800
I did it again, all right. We gotta get you a better phone,

500
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.159
Yeah we do. Okay, all
right, So what's the story.

501
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.800
Here's the story? All right,
this is the night. So we're writing

502
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:31.159
all day, right, eight o'clock, nine o'clock, ten o'clock. Three

503
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:35.599
four stories a day of getting ready
for the juneship. What are we gonna

504
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:40.400
eat for Easter Sunday? Hooters is
the only place open, am I?

505
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:46.119
Right? Yep? Yeah, okay, Well that's it. That's all we

506
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.920
can hear you say. Yeah,
that's all we got. Guys, John,

507
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:51.960
thanks for joining us. Appreciate you. John. If you can hear

508
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.159
us, thanks so much. Give
me that friends and family discett at home,

509
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.239
Come do home. We have a
lot of good there's the plog.

510
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:07.280
Hey, John, thanks about man. Good to talk to you. Yeah,

511
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:08.639
he was funny. I didn't know
the stories with you guys. Yeah.

512
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.320
He must have been like twenty years
old. Yeah he was, he

513
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.880
was, he was. He was
a kid. And it was the funny

514
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.159
thing about that drive from from Corvallis
to Oregon. He didn't say a word,

515
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:21.599
all right, and I'm just thinking, I know, is he thinking

516
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.239
about his ride or whatever. He
didn't say a word. We at home,

517
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.400
and I don't remember who went and
told. He might have told.

518
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.480
He might have told Greg Hanson,
or he might have told something. I

519
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.360
scared the crap out of him on
that track because I was just holly button.

520
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.920
It was dark and it was rainy. Would you ever drive there in

521
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.880
that area during the winter, not
in Oregon, in just in, just

522
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:43.079
okay, in Oregon, the black
ice. It scared the poop out of

523
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:49.000
the man. Just in Uh,
you're that drive that is. But we

524
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.239
remember we would stay in Moscow to
go and then so he's talking about I

525
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.760
gave him a ride to to Washington
State from Moscow and that was the time

526
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.400
that the stock sure sure, no
snow, snow and all that. You

527
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.159
know, Okay, it is what
it is. Let's go, Lea's take

528
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.360
our break. We're going to come
back. We got fab five Friday picks

529
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they'll talk Streamy live. I mean
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to Why on the Ball Hero Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's

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Jay, and now we have some
picks. We'll give you some other things

592
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that we if we can get this
done, some of our top stories of

593
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the year, since we're not coming
back, right, last last show of

594
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the year today, So we didn't
we didn't care much of anything. You

595
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:58.960
have a hail Mary, Mary,
I don't, but yeah, I think

596
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:04.519
I'm mathematically NATed, Steve. It's
September exactly. All right, let's let's

597
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.679
give our picks. Uh. We
got got some Bowl games to work with,

598
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:09.639
some NFL games, So I'm gonna
go and start. I'm gonna take

599
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:13.840
a I'm gonna take a bowl game. I'm the the Armed Forces Bowl.

600
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.840
I'm gonna take James Madison giving two
and a half to Air Force. James

601
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:22.000
Madison, you know, just been
money all year long. Uh. They

602
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.519
do have a bunch of guys going
into the portal, but they're all playing,

603
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:29.880
including Jordan McLeod, the former Arizona
quarterback who's gonna jump into the portal.

604
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.360
But they're all gonna play in this
game. He's going to the portal

605
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:36.800
two yep again, yep, yep, yep. And so I'm gonna get

606
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.679
I'm gonna take James Madison give the
two and a half to air Force.

607
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.639
Okay, okay, I'm gonna go
tonight's game. I really played a Thursday

608
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.119
game. But I like the Rams
minus four over the Saints. All right,

609
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:51.679
at home they've played six, so
that's something like the last eight times

610
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:53.639
or something the home team has won
that won this game. Yeah, and

611
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:57.000
that's why I'm going to Rams in
Saints. So that's good. Good thing.

612
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.039
I didn't want to take a game
tonight because I'm not gonna be home

613
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.880
to watch it. I didn't take
this, So moving on, up standing,

614
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.159
it's good to know. There you
go. Stand on the college side.

615
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.400
I'm gonna take Utah in the Vegas
Bowl. They're giving six and a

616
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:14.480
half to Northwestern. I just I
just think Utah Kyle Whittingham is a guy

617
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:17.119
who's not gonna let his team not
be ready and up for this game.

618
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.760
I think I like going there.
I think they're gonna go in there and

619
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.920
just they want to win this game. You know, finish, you know,

620
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:27.920
finish the season on a good note
and and get ready for next year.

621
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.760
I just think Waddingham is the kind
of coach is not gonna take any

622
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.599
crap from his guys not being ready
or not wanting to play in this game.

623
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.360
It's an interesting game to be anyways. A seven thirty game, excuse

624
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.760
me, five thirty game two sometime
in the Vegas Bowl against Northwestern. So

625
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:45.480
that's that's my second pack. Yeah, okay, my next game, I'm

626
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.519
going all pro. So I'm gonna
take reluctantly. I'm gonna take the Lions

627
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.119
minus three and a half or three
over the Vikings. I think the Vikings

628
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:58.000
are just bad. The Lions at
some point have to realize they're good and

629
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.440
they have to continue to win.
Yeah, at some point, I'm zero

630
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.880
and three picking the Lions, and
I'm okay with them. I like two

631
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.760
and one, but they're so if
he they're they're No, you're not touching

632
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:16.960
them, right, No, I'm
taking them. Oh damn it, that's

633
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:25.599
my next pick. I'm taking them. I want the Lions. I should

634
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:29.400
let you pick on your first five. First Well, well, they weren't

635
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:30.960
going to be my next pick.
Anyway. So but but they are now,

636
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:35.199
so that is my next pick.
I am taking the Lions giving the

637
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.800
three to the Vicus. I'm with
you, Steve, mean they shouldn't be

638
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:44.159
losing game. No, they're good, play like you're good. Yeah.

639
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:46.239
I don't like the fact that this
game is on the road, but it's

640
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:52.119
indoors. Lion's playing doors. They
should just they should just win this game

641
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.599
because they're better. There's and it's
a three point spread, so just win

642
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.840
the game. Okay, that's twenty
years. So I'm gonna go with Indy

643
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.960
has been good to me. Maybe
not two weeks ago, but I'm gonna

644
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.320
take Indy. Uh where they uh
cool, they're giving one and a half

645
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.400
to the Falcons. They're in Atlanta. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna take

646
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.119
it. I'm telling I'm telling Clio
Robinson that you're betting against his grandson's team.

647
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.199
They were disappointed last week. He
should have had a better game than

648
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.679
they did last weekend, so they're
sat that thing that he did. Uh

649
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.119
he went and gave a ball to
a kid like you know at the catch

650
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:28.559
with them after the game. I
think I don't know if before but just

651
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:30.960
sometime was that game that I lose. It's a it's an early game,

652
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:36.000
so it's one of those ten eleven
o'clock games our time. All right,

653
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.239
Okay, I'm not taking the Colts, just so you know. I am

654
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:44.679
taking the Dolphins. And I don't
know why I got off the Dolphins.

655
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.199
They're three and oh for me this
year. They covered for me every time

656
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.719
I've taken them, and for some
reason I didn't take them. Last year

657
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.840
they beat the hell out of Last
week I took them. They were one

658
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.039
of my bets. So I've got
I got the Dolphins giving a point and

659
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.400
a half to the Cowboys. They're
in Miami. Uh. The Cowboys looked

660
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.519
really bad last week, but I
think the Dolphins are just good and they're

661
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:05.880
good at home. So I'm taking
the Dolphins. Somebody already texts me you're

662
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:10.960
taking an alliance. He's a Minnesota
fan. So okay, So I'm gonna

663
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.119
my best bet or my lock is
gonna be Jacksonville. Oh. They faced

664
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:20.360
Tampa Bay last week. They totally
screwed because I had the perfect score going

665
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.679
and they couldn't score the points.
So I'm gonna take them this week.

666
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:28.519
Hopefully that changes. They played Tampa
minus one for that. That would be

667
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.559
a reason for me just to not
take. Yeah, I know, but

668
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.039
you're fifteen. You have fifteen points. I hold grudges, they do hold

669
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:36.719
grudges. And then you have no
teams left. I don't have any teams

670
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:38.440
left, all right, And then
we've got to both pick the forty nine

671
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.719
Ers Ravens game, possibly a Super
Bowl preview. It's a huge game,

672
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.239
the last game of the week.
It's on Christmas Night, the last of

673
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:51.360
three games that are playing on being
played on Christmas Day. The forty nine

674
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.199
Ers are giving five and a half
to the Ravens. It's in Santa Clara

675
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.320
or the forty nine Ers are at
home, and I am taking the forty

676
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:02.000
nine Ers. Tough game, tough
game, but I'm doing the same thing.

677
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.159
I wouldn't be surprised if Baltimore wins
this. Yeah. San Francisco is

678
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:12.760
obviously clearly the probat of the best
team right now. But I'm gonna stay

679
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:17.360
with the Christmas Day Yeah, you
know, yeah, five, Okay,

680
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:22.760
I got five? All right,
I am going to lock. I'm going

681
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.400
to lock, Utah. I'm gonna
luck you. It's gonna pick you.

682
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.119
You might finally have something there,
would you decide to lock the Colts Jackson

683
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:35.480
with the Jacks. Okay, Jacks, yeah, okay, So real quick

684
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.000
wrap and then we'll get into the
about five minutes of this. I've got

685
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:42.840
James Madison, Utah, the Dolphins, the Lions, and the forty nine

686
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.119
ers with Utah as the lock.
He's got the Rams, Lions, Colts,

687
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:50.559
locking the Jaguars, and then the
forty nine ERSI good luck to you,

688
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.079
Steve. I'm rooting for you.
Yeah you are, Hey, I'm

689
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:57.239
I have a good chance to still
make sure he's all right, Okay,

690
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.800
okay, okay. So I wanted
to talk to real quick about about the

691
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.119
end of the year top stories involving
the stuff that we talk about, right,

692
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.400
Okay, once you go first of
you if you well, I think

693
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.079
I think that I think the story
of the year has to be, uh,

694
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:15.440
what what happened with the conference and
with their oh okay, going to

695
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:20.960
the Big twelve. It's changed everything. It's it's it changed how we're gonna

696
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:25.119
watch sports, you know, college
sports going forward. Uh you know,

697
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.599
I mean, I'm like, okay, is it obviously it's you know,

698
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:30.360
the football team, yes, but
no, I mean, you know,

699
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:36.119
this is a life changing thing for
people in this community, and that you

700
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.000
know, those of us who follow
you know, Arizona sports. We're not

701
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.920
going to l A on road trips. We're not going to the Bay Area.

702
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:46.039
We're not going to Oregon. We're
going We're going to Waco and Lubbock

703
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:52.840
and and uh and it's still water
and in those places, you know,

704
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:59.480
Manhattan and Lawrence, Kansas. It's
changed everything. Steve and the chaos that

705
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:04.239
that that happened all summer. With
that, I think that has to be

706
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.159
the story of the year. No, I didn't even think of that big,

707
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:09.920
big picture. I did not,
But I agree with you. I

708
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:15.440
agree with you so mine without thinking
that one UA football the way football is

709
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.000
my tough speed. Who would have
thought that they'd finished nine in three?

710
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.320
Not me, maybe Jake Fisher,
but not me. Not me. I

711
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.119
don't know ninety five percent of the
people in this city. I mean,

712
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.199
how many times did we sit here
and try and count six? And it

713
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.199
was hard, It was really hard
to do. I left that people were

714
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.519
sitting seven. Yeah, you know, and I apologize to her. I

715
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.199
think everybody, but hey, great
job, and they might win ten.

716
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:42.559
I mean, I'll tell you a
secret. I'll tell you a secret.

717
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.639
I really didn't think they were going
to get six wins. I really didn't.

718
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.400
Now they could say that I'm saying
that now. I really didn't,

719
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.719
you know, when we when we
said, when we made that bet the

720
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.440
over under, you know, five
and a half, and you took the

721
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.599
under and I took the over.
I didn't. I did not. I

722
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.760
truly did not believe in it.
Yeah. I thought there aren't six wins

723
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:07.159
there, you know, and then
they got nine, you know, I

724
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:08.679
mean I bet on it and the
whole bed, but I didn't think they

725
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:12.920
were gonna get it. I really
had a hard time finding those six wins.

726
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:16.000
I didn't I didn't think that they
could beat uh. I didn't think

727
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:21.719
they could win even one of Oregon
State, Washington State and in U.

728
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:23.159
C. L A. I didn't
think they could. And you know,

729
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:27.480
I thought they'd get you know,
uh, the three that they got early,

730
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.239
you know, the two non conference
games and then Stanford, and I

731
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.519
thought they could get Colorado, which
we didn't know about Colorado. And I

732
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.760
truly believed that they would beat Arizona
State. Those were the five wins.

733
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.360
Yeah, and they got and they
got nine. So yeah, that's it's

734
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:44.440
a close second. But I think, to me again, you know,

735
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:49.440
the conference thing is the biggest next
and well then I you know, I

736
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.159
think, I think you have to
go uh you know Arizona basketball, And

737
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:54.320
what are you doing again? Well, okay, you went there. Yeah,

738
00:49:54.519 --> 00:50:00.440
because I think I think beating Duke
has set a tone for this season

739
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.719
in that, regardless of how good
Duke ends up being, I think people

740
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.559
believe that because they went and beat
Duke at Duke, that people think this

741
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.159
team can win the Natal Campion.
I went with the basketball team for the

742
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:15.440
opposite reason, losing to Princeton in
the first round that being the storyline for

743
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.920
the year. Well that's because you
think of bad things and I think of

744
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:22.519
good things. No, you're the
bitter one three phrase. Yeah no,

745
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.679
yeah, yeah, I think that
has to be there because that was a

746
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.719
big deal and it and it hung
on as ah. You know, you

747
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:36.760
had this scab all through through the
summer. But I think Duke helped start

748
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.760
to heal the cab. Sure,
sure, and we'll talk here in three

749
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:43.199
months. It's already going to be
three months that it's all over or not.

750
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:45.280
Yeah. So okay, so that
was mine just for a different reason.

751
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.320
Yeah, yeah, I think that
that's you know that, I think

752
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.440
that's a huge story. Okay,
you know it's kind of there's a whole

753
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.199
bunch of stuff after that, right. You think about you know the high

754
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:58.880
school uh, you know some of
the high school sports and stuff that we

755
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.880
Daniel a couple of us. There's
a there's a state champion. There's two

756
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:06.159
and that was my too. We
have two states champions, right, two

757
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:12.119
state champions. I think of the
churn of what's going on with women's basketball.

758
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:15.559
Yeah, you know that's kind of
like I'm not sure what's going on

759
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.199
there? Right? Is it good? Is it bad? Totally? Uh?

760
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.400
You know what what's going on with
with Arizona women's basketball? Okay,

761
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:29.159
So my final one and it's it's
the sports slash non news two hundred forty

762
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:30.880
dollars two hundred and forty million dollars. Yeah, you know, it affects

763
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.960
a lot of people. Keep hearing
Dave Heke say that all is fine in

764
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:40.320
the athletics part. He gave a
talking to to an alumni group or something

765
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:44.880
like that. He said, we're
doing fine in athletics. Well, do

766
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.000
you have to figure mister must have
figured it stood out they come they had

767
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:50.239
to have come up with the planets. Well, how how long has the

768
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.639
institution been here? You ain't going
to go away. It's not going anywhere,

769
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.440
right, They're going to have to
figure it out. Yeah, they

770
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.480
have to figure out to figure out. But yeah, that's a big deal.

771
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.199
It's a really big deal. So
that was my my three UI football

772
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:07.719
the personal loss, the Sabino Ceo
victories in the state football, and then

773
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:10.480
and then the two hundred and forty
million. I thought your your your Pac

774
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.039
twelve thing was pretty good too,
And I guess you know part of it

775
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.039
again growing up here, you know, they got into the pack, you

776
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:21.159
know when I was in high school, and how a big deal that was?

777
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:22.639
How big a deal that was?
You know our family, you know,

778
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.039
we were big fans. We were
going to get to play USC and

779
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.840
U C l A. And we
did it for all these all those years,

780
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:30.480
didn't get to a damn Rose Bowl, and now it all change.

781
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:36.800
We have a minute. How do
you overall forty some years, how did

782
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:38.639
they just want to represent itself in
I thought they represented well. They were

783
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:44.400
competitive and in the big sports.
Obviously they were the thing in basketball,

784
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:46.159
so I thought I thought they did
well. They just didn't get to a

785
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:50.400
damn rose bull stage. The only
they did everything else, they just didn't

786
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.880
get to a rose ball. All
right. Hey, thanks everybody, it's

787
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.000
been a great year. We hope
you've enjoyed what we do. We enjoy

788
00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.960
what we do. You've listened,
you've texted a us, you've emailed us,

789
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:05.679
You've said we sucked, people say
I suck all the time. You

790
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.920
followed us on social media, you
followed the podcast. We thank you for

791
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:10.960
doing all of that. This is
our last show of the year, So

792
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.400
Steve, Merry Christmas. You e
Merry Christmas. Thanks for being here the

793
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:20.800
last few weeks, and we'll be
back on January the second. So uh

794
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:22.760
follow us on the podcast. We'll
let you know how to find us.

795
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:25.000
Sarah, keep an eye on us
on social media. Thanks for being here.

796
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:36.840
Stard listening. Now you'll see your
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