WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.520 Hey everybody, Dane here, Welcome to tune in with Jim Cummings. Now 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:06.480 this week we're going to be doing things a little bit different. We're going 3 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:10.400 to be giving you all free access to one of our Patreon exclusive episodes of 4 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:15.320 Comings Commentaries where myself, Guy Chris, and Jim we all sit down and 5 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:18.800 go back and revisit an episode of Dark Wren Duck. Oh and we may 6 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:21.800 all end up. He's joined by Yes, Dark Wren Duck himself. I've 7 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:24.960 got Jim's Patreon. We've also got an episode where we revisit an episode of 8 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:28.280 Bonkers. And in the next episode of Cominges Commentaries, we're going to be 9 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:31.320 watching an episode of Tailspin. So if you're a fan of the old Disney 10 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:33.799 shows, you're gonna want to check out that. Now, don't worry. 11 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:38.320 Next week we shall be returning to our regular programming with upcoming episodes covering themes 12 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:43.159 such as Leatherhead, The Lion King, Dumbo Circus, the Christopher Robin film, 13 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:46.359 and so much more. Plus we've got some very exciting guest lined up 14 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:49.280 for the coming weeks as well. So thank you all once again for your 15 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:52.200 support so far. It means the world to us. All. Jim truly 16 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:56.119 appreciates it, but for now, sit back and enjoy our comingies commentary episode 17 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:00.759 of Duck Rin Duck. Catch you all next week. You're doing no dare 18 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:06.359 It's me Tigger, am dark Wing Duck. It's me Buncos keep babcat All 19 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:11.439 right, young did agree your favorite biberplack you design Old Old no Go. 20 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:17.959 My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tune in. Hello, everybody, 21 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:22.680 welcome to the very first Cummings commentary track here on the tuned in Patreon channel. 22 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.159 I am Brenda Dando John right now by the professor of pop culture. 23 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:30.120 Here is Guy Davis. Very nice to be here, and oh my god, 24 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:37.120 the crowd is going wild and the crowd went mild. Yes, as 25 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:40.239 well as our producer Chris Over in the studio there, Hey doing Chris good. 26 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.799 How's everybody doing. We're doing fantastic And of course we're very excited because 27 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:48.000 we are joined right now by not only the met himself, mister Jim Cummings. 28 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.400 Jim, how you doing, Oh superb thank you for asking, but 29 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:53.439 also it is the men of the ad When we come to doing this Cummings 30 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.280 commentary, it is dark being Duck, Darkming, mister Duck, how are 31 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.400 you well? I am the terror that flaps in the night, the win 32 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:05.719 get scourged, the pexeter nightmares, a duck Egg Duck, and you are 33 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:08.439 really good for a treat today, folks, So stay tuned. I've got 34 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:12.879 to be honest, I'm incredibly excited, but you know, I'm also equally 35 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:15.560 terrified because it's not every day that I get to meet my favorite animated heroes 36 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:19.840 of the nineties, such as yourself, Darkwing. I understand your position. 37 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.000 You poor a little mortal person who's not me, But you know, what 38 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:27.639 are you going to do finding myself on my best behavior because don't want to 39 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:32.800 work do anything to intimate well, you know, get on the wrong side 40 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:36.879 of the scourge of crime. We're going to be talking about beauty and the 41 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:39.759 beat. So this actually isn't the pilot episode of Darkwing Duck. The pilot 42 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:43.560 episode of Dark Green Duck was a two parter which added a couple of days 43 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:45.879 prior to this. This is actually the third one that aired, but I 44 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:47.400 believe this might have been the first one that was produced because I think I'm 45 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:51.680 Disney. Plus they put up the production order of episodes, so This is 46 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:53.159 Beauty and the Beat, the Birth of bush Root. Do you have any 47 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:55.719 memories of this one? Before we hit play and do a commentary, Jim 48 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:59.319 like, do you have any memories of this episode at all? I can 49 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:01.039 rewatch? Ye, Yes I do, Yes, I do. It was 50 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:07.520 very interesting, you know, Tino and Sanna the late great He was such 51 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:12.680 a sweet guy and I we would laugh about it because he's supposed to be 52 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:19.560 this evil, terrible plant have plant have human mastermind, and he was just 53 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:22.840 a pumpkin. You know. It was hard for him to get drown it, 54 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:24.319 you know, I mean it was like like it was kind of like 55 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:28.400 a male Shirley Temple. He seems like a very not timid person, but 56 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.360 a very very gim cumming zact person. Just a very soft teddy bear, 57 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:35.159 you know, nice nice fellow Greek Greek god rest assul. Alrighty, well 58 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.960 shall we get into it, gentlemen? I think so okay, Well, 59 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.159 everybody listening at home right now, I hope you've planned ahead and have the 60 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:44.039 Dark Wing Duck episode Beauty and the Beat pause and ready to go. At 61 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.599 the beginning, I'm about to give you the countdown and when I say three 62 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.280 on the one two three. That's when we're all going to hit play. 63 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.159 So one two click, all right, So ready here we go, one 64 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:59.759 two three all right. So the first I want to talk about, Jim, 65 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:01.479 is the the intro. What were your memories of the of the intro 66 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:05.520 of Dark Wing Ducks. I feel like those Disney Afternoons, early nineties Disney 67 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.800 shows, they all had such iconic theme songs that you might not even remember 68 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:11.960 the show, but you always remember the theme songs. So what are your 69 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:15.160 memories of the Dark Wing Ducks song? Oh gosh, you know I can 70 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:20.959 remember, well that that line right there, Let's Get Dangerous. You know 71 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:25.399 that that was that was quite a tagline, you know, and that was 72 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:29.639 always always something to look forward to, because it meant it was going to 73 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:32.160 hit the fan, you know. Now, Dark Wings man, Okay, 74 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.439 someone's gonna pay. One might say that it's a kind of line that's made 75 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:40.720 for merch. It's something you can put on a T shirt, even Jim. 76 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:47.160 Yeah, well sure, I'll have to think about that. Yeah, 77 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:53.920 okay, Jim is wearing his Let's Get Dangerous show. Is that from the 78 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.519 original days or not just something you've picked up at a store since then? 79 00:04:56.680 --> 00:05:00.000 Is that Dark wing Duck shot you wearing here? No, I had these 80 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.319 made, I had these made, these made. Oh yeah, just allowed 81 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:06.959 to do that. Actually my wife probably first knowing her, she's much more 82 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:12.000 industrious than I. But yeah, it's a very very smart woman. Yeah. 83 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.920 Yeah, what we would have been some of your favorite Disney theme songs, 84 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:15.759 like Duck m duck would have been up there, right, because Duck 85 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:19.639 McDuck's one of your favorite characters in general. Oh yeah, yeah, that's 86 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:24.720 for sure. You know, I really liked all the you know, the 87 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:29.079 Disney Disney Afternoon theme songs. In fact, they came out. I think 88 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:33.319 I've I've got a gold record around here somewhere, like, It's not like 89 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.079 I have that many of them, but it was for you know, some 90 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.480 of the songs that came out of it. Yeah. Uh, And it's 91 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:44.360 uh, you know, I was just so honored that people got a kick 92 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:46.360 out of him, you know that they liked it. Chris Held are you 93 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.480 your late twenties aunt? She did you? Did you go up with these 94 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:51.800 cartoons or a little bit before your time? Yeah? No, I definitely 95 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:55.959 grew up with these. I'm a I'm thirty two, and yeah, this 96 00:05:56.040 --> 00:06:00.199 was coming home after school you know, I was always upset if it's the 97 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:01.720 late bus, because that was that would mean I would miss out on the 98 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:05.160 three to four o'clock programs. And yeah, yeah, this was definitely near 99 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.759 and dear to home to meet. So looking at here on the scream, 100 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:10.800 we've got bush froot here. So as you're sending a Tina, what do 101 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:12.680 you what are your memories of Tina? He said, He's a very sweet 102 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.319 man. But did you work in the studio at the same time when you're 103 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.240 recording this show with Tina or was it just recording separate times? Had it 104 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:21.399 all go? Yeah? Yeah, back then we did a lot of recording 105 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:26.800 in the studio together. And you know, and I preferred it because I've 106 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:30.199 said it before. It's it was just so much more natural and uh and 107 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:35.920 if somebody ad libbed and it worked, that person could come in right behind 108 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:42.360 it, whereas if they did it separately, there following line might not fit 109 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.160 and then they had to come in an ad RT and come in and re 110 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:48.720 record. And you know, and I'm notorious for ad libbing. So is 111 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:51.800 that sort of like pot of your contract that's Jim must be allowed to add 112 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:58.079 libya? No, but I well, you know what. I don't know 113 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.519 that this constitutes, but I've told him before. I hope I'm not repeating 114 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:05.680 myself, but they're you know, all of every Dark Wing Duck show when 115 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:09.040 there's a call to arms, and that would be it. You know, 116 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:12.480 he'd get up and he'd be on the on the Saint Canard pridges day. 117 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.639 I am the tariff that flaps in the night. I am the winged scourge 118 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:20.160 that peck Cetern nightmares. I am Duck, Wang Duck, and off we 119 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:24.120 go. Then then we're off to the race as well. You know, 120 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:28.680 I would always do it as written, and then when we're doing a second 121 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.600 run through, because you usually do them the different scenes, you do them 122 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:35.680 at least twice, you know, just to give the animator some something to 123 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:42.319 work with. And U and about the seventh or eighth show in this the 124 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:46.480 line was I wish I saved this, but the script was I am the 125 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.240 terror that flaps in the night. It doesn't matter what I write here, 126 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:54.800 you know, Jim's gonna say something else anyway. I am dark Wang Duck. 127 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.759 So from that point on they just started writing, I am Dark Wing 128 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.560 Duck. Insert gem. You know, were you improvising this early on, 129 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.120 because this was the third one to ever go to air, or was it 130 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:09.040 very much stick to the script in the early days and as the show evolved 131 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.279 a little bit later, because I think you said you record them mostly in 132 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:13.839 one big block, but this was still very early days. So were you 133 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:18.360 sort of more hesitant at that point to improvise or were you just done hope 134 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:24.839 from the beginning. Nope, I wasn't hesitant. Yeah, okay, fact, 135 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.319 as I recall, now, we've got the words up on the screen, 136 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.600 right, so even if they do. Yeah, okay, well that's 137 00:08:31.799 --> 00:08:37.200 unfortunate. I mean that's good because yeah, all I could say is, 138 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.120 kids, if you're following a lot of home, you have to read the 139 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.799 words on the bottom of the screen because you never know what sneaks past the 140 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.600 sensors. Who did I tease that, Well, I don't know. It 141 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:54.799 felt pretty teas are terrific. Was that sort of like a goal for you? 142 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:00.240 Was how can I sneak some not adult but more not non you see 143 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:01.799 stuff through that through the senses with a goal of yours. It's just something 144 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:07.240 you just did on the fly and it's coming. No. I would never 145 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.919 do that because you're a very non PC person, right, yeah, yeah, 146 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:18.279 yeah, no, I I I always tried to see uh you know 147 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:20.600 what I could sneak past, and you know the trick is to make it 148 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:28.639 work, you know, within the scene because oh god, uh Steve mackel 149 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:33.480 or Rob Paulson has a story about working for mel Brooks and he ad lips 150 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.279 something and he goes and everybody laughed, and he goes, add lips are 151 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.519 shit. You know, they don't do a god damn thing, especially if 152 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:43.279 I didn't write them. Now say it what I said. They're like, 153 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:50.159 oh, okay, So there's different schools of thought on there aren't there depend 154 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.159 depends on who you're working for. And while I'm sorry, J while you 155 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:01.840 gentlemen been having a nice chat, I've been watching the episode ye something that 156 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.320 we don't want to interrupt you, do we You're enjoying my TV. You're 157 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:11.399 interrupting my TV tank something. I'm really digging about this episode yea darkwing Dug 158 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:15.240 has clearly made for the young uns, but I mean, like the Simpsons, 159 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:18.440 well, it is just chock full of references both visual and and one 160 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.600 liners and character names that you know they grown up walking through the room or 161 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.480 you know, dropping off hot pocket to the kids might go, wait a 162 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:31.200 minute, those signers are named Gary and Larsened Gary Larsened in the far side, 163 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.720 or you know that that that the lady scientists are named rhododendron, which 164 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:39.360 is great, given up the whole visual reference to Frankenstein where bush roots, 165 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:46.679 you know, on the on the operating tables and raised operating tables. Absolutely 166 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.919 they must be, yeah, they must be incredibly creatively fertile environments, these 167 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.919 kind of places where everyone's like throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks. 168 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:01.480 Oh yeah, oh absolutely, you know I remember, you know, 169 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:07.919 just going over there and uh, in fact, I think it was Jim 170 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.559 Megan made a joke about it. And here's where the writers are. Jim, 171 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.480 well, you'll actually be saying some of these lines so as you written, 172 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.320 as you wrote them too, So keep up the good work, you 173 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:22.519 know. And that was like the running gag. I guess. But what 174 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:24.039 was some of your favorite look at bush here? What was some of your 175 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.440 favorite villains from Darkwen? Can you remember many of them? Oh? Sure? 176 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:33.159 While Tim Curry was Dorris Bulba and uh I did not know that. 177 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.559 Oh yeah, yeah, Tim Curry, he had a he he was he 178 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.159 is a great guy, you know, and he I think he was slumming, 179 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:46.399 you know, and he kind of descended to do a few cartoons here 180 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.440 and there, and we were all the better for it. Was that the 181 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.320 mental because animation now I was considered you know, it's it's highly acclaimed. 182 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:54.879 But even in like the late eighties, it was kids stuff, right, 183 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.840 was it still like, can you remember when you were doing these shows? 184 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.279 Was it a case of are you on those kids shows? Or was it 185 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.360 still did adults consider it quality television even though they were kids shows? Like 186 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:07.360 we're saying earlier, there's plenty of adult references in these shows as well, 187 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:09.600 and they're made by adults. A lot of it, you would say, 188 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.399 is for adults as well. Oh, I would agree, yeah, yeah, 189 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:18.279 it's it would. I think that's one of the things that the good 190 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.600 animation, good good cartoons. That's what they do. You know. They 191 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.320 have an appeal for the kids and a little something for mom and dad too. 192 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.080 Dark Wing, what are your thoughts on on bush Root? Do you 193 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.200 remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah, old Nemesis bush Root? Dark Wing, 194 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.399 Well, here's a weed that needs to be pulled, and I'm the 195 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:45.879 guy to do it. Pass me the fertilizer, because I'm gonna you're getting 196 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:50.799 fertilized, buddy. Anyway, going back to that the theme song earlier, 197 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.879 did did you have much input Jim into into the theme song? Uh no, 198 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:00.120 not a bit, sorry to say, but no. Daring Duck a 199 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.919 mystery champion of right. Can you can you remember when you were singing these 200 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.919 songs? How how much? How much do you enjoy singing when as opposed 201 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:13.240 to just acting? Oh boy, I love them both, you know, 202 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:16.159 and I and I always, I always, you know, I have a 203 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.960 mini philosophy that if if a cartoon show, any cartoon show, has a 204 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:24.120 song in it, uh, you know, from being a father, I 205 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:28.039 know I know that this is true. Uh you know, my my, 206 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:33.000 my two older girls, whenever they're you know, we watch sitting around watching 207 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.519 TV after Disney afternoon, and a song would come on and they'd get up 208 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:41.519 and march. They'd get up and dance, so I know they it was 209 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:46.159 literally a call to arms or feat and uh, you know, it's just 210 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:52.039 it's it's an upgrade, it really is. And and you'll notice the more 211 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:58.120 successful shows, with the exception probably of the Simpsons, you know, because 212 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:03.039 that's just for adults. Anyway. I think they all incorporate music into them. 213 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:05.240 We just had we got launch put launch pad on the screen. Here, 214 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.159 let's talk about Terry McGovern. I'm you're still friends with Terry. I'm 215 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.559 ashaming. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We've done a few conventions together, 216 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.759 any number of times. Yeah, and boy, I'll tell you it's 217 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:18.960 funny. He we just fall right into it. Well, I don't know, 218 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.639 what do you think LP, Well, I'll tell you a d W 219 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.120 Well, you know, and it's boom, It's just right there. After 220 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:30.559 all these years, it's it hasn't gone anywhere. Was I just like working 221 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:31.720 with the was this just like working with your best friend. Look, you 222 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.879 can you can really sense the chemistry with between these three characters on the show. 223 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:45.960 Oh yeah, And you know what's weird is we only did the first 224 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.600 episode I think with Terry here. He didn't live here. He lived in 225 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.559 San Francisco. Yeah, he was a he was a DJ in the morning 226 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.840 drive in San Francisco. Yeah. I don't remember the station, but yeah, 227 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.279 and so he was don't get that sort of sense of chemistry that you 228 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:05.279 got with a Tina, for example, when you're in the same room with 229 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:07.360 him. So it was a bit different. But what's that's even more credit 230 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.440 to you because you wouldn't know it from the way the show goes off. 231 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:11.919 You know, Oh, well, good well to him as well. I 232 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.759 mean, I did my part, but but no, it was It's true. 233 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.480 We just did the one episode with him in the room, maybe one 234 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:26.440 towards the end, but no more than two because and you'd swear we're in 235 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.399 the same room. And a lot of times they would do him first, 236 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:33.240 and sometimes for a crucial scene they would play it, you know, in 237 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.440 the headphones, and then you know, I'd go off that just to just 238 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:43.320 to make it a truer response. You know, how does it feel when 239 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:46.200 you find a co style like that or a co worker like that that you're 240 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.480 just sort of instantly simpatico with. I mean, that just must be the 241 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.480 best feeling, like you know, like you're playing tennis with someone who's really 242 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.559 good at it and may up your game, or you just feel like we're 243 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:03.440 really in the We're really in the Oh yeah, oh, it's very true. 244 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.600 You know, you know, we're like you say, simpatico, that's 245 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:11.879 a really good word. And uh, you know, whenever you can have 246 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.159 that, it upgrades everything In fact, you'll you'll hear one of my other 247 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:22.000 favorite guys here, Frank Welker, and he's playing Spike. Uh he's I'm 248 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:26.039 sorry, Spike is a Spike? Is that the Is that the pet's name? 249 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:30.000 No? Well he I'm sure he was that too, but uh but 250 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:36.240 he was the professor there. I'm sorry I forgot, Yeah, but that 251 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.399 was that was him. He's you know, and Frank is like, he's 252 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:44.840 he's the Beatle. Yeah, he's the Beatles, and everybody else is trying 253 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.200 to be like, you know, the clash or something. Oh, here 254 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:52.879 we go, right, Yeah, that's nothing. Ticked me off worse than 255 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:59.679 somebody when somebody messed up my hat. Did you have any when as a 256 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.639 show went on? Did you have any sort of input into the stories at 257 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.160 all? Did you sort of cause you sort of I feel like you are 258 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.079 one and the same with Dark Ring. I feel like you could really think 259 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:15.240 of creative ways for Dark Ring to foil the villains. Uh, you know, 260 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:19.519 I didn't didn't really have a ton because they were they were They really 261 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:22.359 had them down. I mean, they had storyboards down, they knew what 262 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:26.240 they wanted. And I'm sorry, I'm trying to where are we Chris, 263 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:33.519 is there a certain spot here that we're looking for? I know one of 264 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.599 my favorite lines is coming up. Oh, we got a bush for it. 265 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.279 Here he's looking listening through the these little portable like earphone things. Listen 266 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:45.759 to what wrote us telling all? That was Jennifer Darling, great gal, 267 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.200 another great actress. What are memories of Jennifer? Oh, she was a 268 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.559 doll. You know. I worked together with her a lot. We did 269 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:56.640 the visionaries, We did any number of things over at Hannah Barbera, the 270 00:17:56.680 --> 00:18:00.319 old Hannah Barbera, which is not there anymore. You know, I'm just 271 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:06.200 glad I'm still here. I feel like the old Disney Afternoon's team. It's 272 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:07.799 almost like they used the same actors across so many different shows. It was 273 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.039 like one family just did the lot. Is that was that what it was 274 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:14.799 like? Yes, it felt that way. You know, as years got 275 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.799 went by and I thought, Wow, I'm I'm getting really lucky here. 276 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.440 I'm you know, I was dark Wing and then I was bonkers and uh 277 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:26.400 you know two of the title characters, which is really an honor, and 278 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:33.240 uh King Louis. Then you're steal You're stealing roles and Peter Cullen. Yeah, 279 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:37.279 sure, that was it. Wait wait, we're on the wrong show 280 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:40.920 here, right, that's that's a separate show. I'm gonna I do have 281 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:42.720 to ask, though, Dark Wing, what what made you go with the 282 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.480 purple? Was there something about the purple color that for the for the outfit? 283 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.559 What was purple? Well? No, I think it was a sort 284 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:53.759 of a hat tip to the fact that I think while the Shadow was I 285 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:57.039 think he was black because because there's like two or three characters here, the 286 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:03.880 scarlet pimper, pimper now pimp or now not just pimp, and uh, 287 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:08.000 you know the shadow and like I said before, he was the spirit is 288 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:11.759 in there, an old Paul p hero. And I think they just put 289 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:15.799 him together and said, well, we can't have him in black because he 290 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.880 is a good guy. So they had him in a dark a darker color. 291 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.039 And you know, I think it worked. It worked like a charm. 292 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.960 I think it has a really cool uniform. And I always get a 293 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:30.799 kick when ivens and they'll always be, like I said, two or three 294 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:38.200 dark Wings walking around. There's that great long tradition of yeah, of gentleman 295 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:42.359 heroes in the wide brimmhat and and the cape or of the long coat or 296 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:47.759 something. It stretches back really fib but it's fantastic. I agree. I 297 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:52.160 agree. Were much of a comic fan growing up, Jim, what's that? 298 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:57.839 Were much of a comic fan growing up? Comic book? Yeah? 299 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.640 Oh yes, Lily still am still what do? Yeah? Yeah? Oh 300 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.480 yeah, I'll be I'll be down at the local, uh comic book shop. 301 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:10.440 Didn't Dark Wing Duck get his own comic book series? I'm pretty sure 302 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.880 he did? Why, Yes he did? Do you have one here? 303 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.720 You look like you're looking for one. I can see, I can see 304 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:19.839 a book behind you actually on the screen. Yeah, I've got them all. 305 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:22.599 You know, people and you know, like I said, when I 306 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.799 go to conventions, people come up to me and the inevitably have a few 307 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:30.880 of them from me' Is it strange when you read those comics and you're reading 308 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:36.359 it in your own voice? Uh? I guess you know. I never 309 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:41.559 thought of it, but but yeah, it's uh, you know, I 310 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.759 I'm sorry, I'm looking for this line. I have to confess. What's 311 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:51.559 the line you're after? Oh, it's it's you'll know it when I will 312 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:56.759 know it. I think, I think producer Chris, I think we just 313 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:02.599 I think we just passed it. Oh, no way, it arg what 314 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.079 was he's chasing him down, says it's time to toss some salad. Is 315 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:15.960 that what he said? It's time to toss this salad? And yes, 316 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:18.160 he said that. So was that in the script or was that a Jim 317 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:22.680 Cummings improv? Well, I'd like to think it was an improv that I 318 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:27.079 snuck past them, because it probably was, but I'm not exactly sure. 319 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.480 I mean, it might have been just an innocent See, I wasn't gonna 320 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:36.319 tell anybody I was saying, no, hey, it was it. I 321 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:41.599 didn't write it, although I probably did google that term. Or don't it's 322 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:45.400 funny how they sneak some of those things in, or you know, it's 323 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.359 I always get such a kick out of that. Like when I heard that 324 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:49.599 line, I just kind of sat up and I was like, did I 325 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:53.519 just hear that correctly? Like, you know, and he's throwing out he's 326 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:56.480 throwing out plant puns the whole time, you know, the whole time he's 327 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:00.279 in Hobart. Soon he's throwing out all the puns. So it it just 328 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.599 goes in with the flow of everything. It doesn't stick out that much unless 329 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:10.119 you're looking for it? Yeah, yes, do you feel do you feel 330 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:11.839 like you could get away with a lot more back then with kids shows than 331 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.039 what you could now, Like with Hondo, you get away with something, 332 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:17.839 But do you feel like if Hondo was a character in the early nineties you 333 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:19.359 could have got a lot more past the senses? Do you think they're more 334 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:23.160 focused now making sure nothing gets part and it gets by them? But it's 335 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:27.359 hard to say, you know, prepared to eat dirt? Well, I 336 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:32.400 keep waiting to see if it's going to come up. Sorry, but no, 337 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:36.119 I you know, I think in general they've all gotten a lot more 338 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:40.960 crude, you know. So I mean there's more adult based shows now. 339 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:45.359 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, and I liked the idea 340 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.839 of coming up with actual funny, you know, as opposed to just crude 341 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:53.400 and let's see what we can get away with and see what we can sneak 342 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.279 back the sensors. And I did my share of that too. I was 343 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.480 trying to think. I can't think of what the show was. It might 344 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:03.720 have been raw tunage or something, but there were I was playing a coyote 345 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:11.440 or a couple. Anyway, it was a hill billy anthropomorphized animal. Uh, 346 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.640 and it was. And the line was, well, where did that 347 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:18.880 come from? And I said, it's not mine, it must be yearing 348 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:26.359 and and I had to go back and they caught that one. So they 349 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.079 called me back in during eighty R and they go, okay, okay, 350 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.160 very funny, Okay, it's not mine, it must be yours. Would 351 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.799 it kill you to say yours? And that's well, I guess if you 352 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.960 think so. I can imagine I'm banging the office, going, we can't 353 00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:45.200 let that get on television. You guy telling, now, you guy telling, 354 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:51.200 now, you guy telling. But the really great thing about a Nick 355 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:55.119 double on Tonder is like, I'm just completely innocent here. Man, you're 356 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.680 the one with the dirty mind. If you're reading that in right, that's 357 00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:00.599 right. I'm just talking about tossing some salad. You know you take that. 358 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:04.359 I'm talking about an a nice on deep salad here. I don't know 359 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:07.960 what you got in mind? Yeah? Are you telling me? There's another 360 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:11.480 way? Please? And lateness, won't you? Yeah? That would go 361 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:15.519 over a while. So when you were making when you were making these shows, 362 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:19.240 how long before they were on TV were you recording the dialogue? Oh? 363 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.720 Before I got it? Probably I don't know, maybe nine months, 364 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.319 nine months. It seems to be the average time. That's what the Simpsons 365 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:26.880 take about. Nine months. Yeah, it's amazing that it takes that long. 366 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.240 I feel like it should be quicken now with the computer animation. But 367 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.240 one thing I did also want to touch on was the I got back and 368 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:37.079 watch these shows, these early nineties shows like Tailspin and Dark Wing Dark And 369 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.759 I know I'm biased being a nineties kid and Chris the same, but I 370 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.599 just feel the animation is so much tidier and nicer to look at them, 371 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:45.799 like, for example, I want to bring up like that the duck Tails 372 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.480 reboot. I don't know why they have to make them look all pointy and 373 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.480 odd looking. Now it's you look at the nineties shows and it's just say, 374 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.279 yeah, nice, it's so neat hung you know the animation. Yeah, 375 00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:57.759 yeah, that's Oh here's the line. Here's the line right here. 376 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:00.759 Sorry, here we go, it's coming up. What did jump side of 377 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:06.240 the tractor? You know. That's one thing I've loved about doing our Simpsons 378 00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:10.759 podcast four Finger Discount for the last eight years is finding all of those moments 379 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:14.440 that got by the sensors and completely slipped me by as a kid and almost 380 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.720 discovering my favorite show again for what feels like the first time, and just 381 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:21.400 appreciating it for entirely different reasons. But you know, I wanted to get 382 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.160 back to Tera McGovern. Did you know I was telling I was actually telling 383 00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:26.920 Jim the other day while we wait for it, that Ary McGovern, he 384 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:30.720 came up with the term wookie for all you Star Wars fans. What that's 385 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.599 pretty wild. Yeah. Yeah. He was driving the car with George Lucas 386 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:34.079 and George says, what was it? What was that? Guys? I 387 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:37.240 think I was hit a wookie? And he kept it into the movie. 388 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.799 Yea, all good stories start where I was driving the car with George Lucas. 389 00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:45.960 Yeah, yeah, I'll never forget that to him. I wasn't. 390 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.839 So they're on their way to Toshi Station to pick up some power converters. 391 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:56.160 Yeah, there is the end of the episode with bush Root. Now he's 392 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.920 now it looks like a let us there bush Rout. But anyway, yeah, 393 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.359 he's the first comings commentaries of Duck Wing Duck. So I think the 394 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.720 next one we'd like to go back and then review the actual pilot, which 395 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:08.400 was a two part of you look when you when you went into the studio 396 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.440 Gym to do the first Dark Wing Duck, could you tell from the get 397 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.319 go, from the scripts and the references to the old episodes and whatnot that 398 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:17.400 this was going to be a show that was gonna be a big hit? 399 00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:18.880 Like can you could you get a sense of what was going to be hit 400 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.160 and what wasn't or was it just luck of the draw? Well, I 401 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.119 could tell it was going to be a big hit because I was in it. 402 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:32.680 That's not true, Okay, I made that part up. No, 403 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:37.759 I you know, I kind of like most of them, and some of 404 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.640 them, I you know that I don't think are gonna you know, I 405 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:48.079 can't explain it, but but they do just well. And some of them 406 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.319 that are really really weird animation. And I would feel funny saying the names 407 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.319 of these shows because my friends are all in them, and I'm thinking, 408 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.400 okay, that now that's just strange and weird. But nowadays it's kind of 409 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.880 like open season. Anything goes, you know, And I don't think you 410 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:11.960 have one thing that I will say that The writing is less clever now because 411 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:15.200 it doesn't have to be, because they can they can be really crude and 412 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.880 get a big reaction, and it seems like it's based on getting a big 413 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:26.720 reaction as opposed to getting a positive good reaction. You know that that slasher 414 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.880 movie comes out and saw and it got a big reaction. But it ain't 415 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.559 Shakespeare. That was actually made just up the road here, wasn't it, 416 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.200 guy? I was it made in Melbourne? That movie? So the original 417 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:38.519 version was Yeah, I mean there are a couple of kids from Melbourne who 418 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.359 we made it. Yeah, did the sort of a student film version here 419 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.319 in Melbourne and then really and they sold the rice and they got out. 420 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:55.400 Yeah, their parents must be so proud or I'm pretty sure they probably enjoyed 421 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.240 the Beach House to Yeah they're not bad. Yeah, they may not be 422 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.880 proud, but they're not complaining. What's that great? What's that great? 423 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.200 Michael Kane quote? You always bring up, guy about Jaws four? Oh 424 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.079 that's right, someone asking me, he's like Jaws four not a very good 425 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:11.799 movie, Michael, have you seen it? Us? I haven't seen it, 426 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:12.960 but I have seen the beach House that they bought, and it's very 427 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:18.680 nice. Yeah. Yeah, from from a terrible, terrible voice in person 428 00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:23.200 to one who's really really good at it I apologize Jim never doing another Michael 429 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:29.599 Gain impersonation. Let it happen again, don't. I should have to chastise 430 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:33.279 you. You don't want that, and that was my bargain basement. Michael 431 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.839 Kane can duck wing duck? Can you do a Michael Kane impersonation duck win 432 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:44.799 you're putting it? Yeah, that's a head scratcher. You have the terror 433 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.279 that flips in the night. I have the winged scourge. What pecks at 434 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:53.359 your nightmares? I and my god, no, I am dark Wayne duck 435 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.359 in it and not a lot of people know that. And you gotta throw 436 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.720 I think you have to throw in it. I'm not even sure what in 437 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.799 it means, but you have to know when to say it. According to 438 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.559 us, well, I am married to an English girl, so whenever she 439 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.319 makes fun of Australian slang terms for words, I'll go, yeah, it's 440 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:12.839 weird in it and she goes, you're right, yep, you're right, 441 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.599 Yeah, yeah, that's funny. We also butcher the language, we know, 442 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.920 typically banging on the door right now saying stop those gentlemen butchering in my 443 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:23.640 eggs. Yes, yeah, no, right now, Nicholas, lovely, 444 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.359 but as is Margaret. But thank you Jim and dark Wing and Chris and 445 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.839 Guy for Johnny Sea for the first comings commentaries. This is a lot of 446 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.640 fun. What what shows you'd like to tackle in the future. I think 447 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.079 we should do the pilot of Dark Green Dark Were there any gym that you 448 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:37.599 would like to to do commentaries on in the future. Any of your old 449 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.839 nineties Disney shows that come to mind, Tailspin, Chippendale's, any of them, 450 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:47.119 Chipperdales you mean the dancers or no, no, I yeah, Chiperdales 451 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:51.519 prefer that would be great. That would be great. Should we have all 452 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:53.200 our shirts off for that one? Or well, as long as I was 453 00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.279 in all of them that that's That's a biggie. Those are the ones I 454 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.359 enjoy the most. 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