Seemed to still drop their phones in water. I don't know how this happens,
but I had a whole bunch of them this week. Yeah, and
you can't fix water damage. I mean, it's that's the worst thing you
could do to a device. You could run over them with a vehicle,
but water damage pretty much toasts your machine. The one time that I had
water damage, I was trying to fill up my dog's dish. I put
the put the water out and put it down, and from my shirt pocket,
yeah, it fell in. It was like slow ocean. Ye,
just wash them good. That can't happen. But you know what, the
main the main thing is never I mean those are rare occasions, but the
main one is pulling in the toilet. Why people take their phones into the
bathroom, it's beyond me. You know, it's just ketch up on some
reading newspapers. Well, but it's not only that, but all the all
the stuff you leave behind on your phone. I mean, just don't touch
it. I'll just leave it alone for a minute. But anyways, getting
to technology, you know, I read a pretty interesting article this last week.
I was, you know, kind of finding out where Microsoft is going
and how they're getting there. I mean, they've taken some major turns.
When you see that their revenue this last year and their intake was like billions.
You're wondering, what are these companies doing this? It's changing this,
this whole thing. But you know when they changed CEOs this last few years
ago, you know, they changed CEOs and went to that Nedela and that
guy took over the CEO position, he started really looking at the model.
Well he's the cloud guy. Yeah, he was their cloud guy first,
and then when he took over that position, he started to see, hey,
how can we expand this thing. He freed up all of his engineers
to just be creative, and that's where they started pulling in like people that
are into different platforms like iOS. You know my friend our mayor, he's
into this. You started to pulling these people. Yeah, he brought the
Linux world into Microsoft. So now there's core pieces in there which have become
more reliable because they have Linux components in there, and they can integrate that
now into your you know, you can have a virtual machine on Windows ten
or eleven that runs Linux, so you could run all kinds of operating systems
on their platform. But the thing is they're trying to control it to the
point where it's really it's really a little much because you'll see things going away
that you used to have. Like for example, if you follow the control
panel at all, you know, that's where tech you guys have to go
to get to get to the nitty gritty stuff, and pieces are just disappearing
out of there. So you got to figure, Okay, where did that
go? You know. So they're slowly but surely moving everything from the control
planning uh into settings. Settings is a little here. They're they're following that
convention, but uh, what bugs me is they're taking things away. Now
you have to add things kind of well, you have to kind of know
what you're doing. Like for example, you go to install Windows eleven and
uh, and now it says we'll log into your Microsoft accounts. What if
you don't have a Microsoft or if you said it up for somebody else,
you know, how do you do it? Then? Right? Well,
I mean you can do it, but it's not for the average bear,
you know. So they're making things increasingly difficult. We are. And the
other thing is they used to you know, their initial focus was on making
things simple. You know, because with Windows you know, it's it's that
basically just isolated you from the the hardcore stuff, you know, command line
things that you know had you know, like Bill Gates was always into the
visual basic, so you know that it's got scripting stuff that all runs on
their basic language. But the scripts now have gotten kind of out of control.
They're they're doing stuff, the farious, the farious stuff, you know,
so that's ugly. So taking those kind of controls away is what where
the bottles be the most, because it feels like you're getting kind of it's
it's like all of a sudden, you wake up and it's like, like,
what do you call it? Gulliver travel? You feel strapped down?
It says, okay, how come I can't move my head? Yeah?
You got all these things happening around you. You feel strapped in? Feel
strapped in? Yeah, I guess I'm from that generation where we used to
have all those kind of controls and you know we could get it, but
now it's just making it really difficult. It's just like when your car dies
and the hood is wielded shut, right, you know that's what it feels.
But you know, when you think about what's happened though, It's like
Madela Heat when they when he took this model over, it was you,
one person cannot change the whole entire company, you know, by themselves.
It takes It takes a changing the whole environment around you. You've got to
get everybody in on the same page. And they started opening up all this
AI and started opening up, you know, bringing in these things from the
outsource that used to be worrying against. And now they're all working together to
create a model. And you know, I'm watching their numbers go up every
year. I mean, they're making huge amounts of money, but a lot
of it is this AI based you know software now that they're trying to oil
introduced its integrate into the browsers. All of them are doing that now because
that's the new frontier. Sure, you know, building that whole cloud environment
where you're totally dependent upon them for you know, basic functionality. So what
do you do with that, Well, you go for the rider, you
go find something else. So that's where Google, Apple and Microsoft are all.
But Google is kind of fading out a little bit. I mean they're
losing well they're not, but you know what I mean, they're losing a
lot though because Microsoft is is flying past them right now. Well, because
they're pulling for the controls they're they're the monopolistic one. Yeah, the two.
I mean Google has control over the search engine, well they did for
a while, but I'm seeing Amazon Search taking more. They're actually growing.
There's nowhere near what Google has. Google search engine is far better than any
of the others because they've been added for a long long time. Now act
you've got these ones coming up. I mean with the Google or the Amazon
Assistance now, you know, with Alexa and things. It's it's getting just
as powerful in the search engine. Well because they're adding those AI elements.
But they're all doing that, Like Apple's the latest one getting into the game.
But you know their brows are just going to have those built in,
Like Microsoft start building it into the their browser initially, but then they kind
of shut it down when all of a sudden it gets past all the security
stuff. Yeah, you know, you can you can script it because it's
the command language. It's going to start controlling things. So that's why programmers,
you know, they're kind of targets now because if you can you know,
have verbal commands that can create code. You know what are the coders
going to do. Well, they can see what they've done and try to
emulate it, but now they're emulating a machine. Really, yeah, it
gets really really deep. Reading that article just kind of opened up to,
well, what's happening with this with this whole Well, it's model. It's
past Apple as far as being the biggest three trillion dollar company. Yeah,
you know, and they were not even a one trillion and a half a
dozen years ago. So what happened in the last few years? Office subscriptions?
I guess where the guess where the uh, the majority of their revenue
is coming from subscription subscriptions, basically sourced buys. Really and you know that
a lot of your apps, and this is really weird, but a lot
of your apps, even in the iOS, when I pull up my phone,
you've got an Android. But when I pull up my phone and I've
got an app that uses quite a bit of of my resources on my phone,
it says powered by always at the bottom, powered by Microsoft. You
know, a lot of these are now these apps are integrated or working with
Apple. Microsoft Squeeze now their way into all these whether they're coming in it
from a kind of a cloud based side. That's not because look what happened
when they introduced the Microsoft Windows phone. You know how far that went.
It didn't go anywhere. It was dead on arrival. Well, the problem
with see, I have a little different take on Microsoft than you. I
see them as you know, they've always been been known for the bloatwear.
Bloatwear means they've got these huge bundles of software that just to do some function,
and you cobble all those things together. It's just like this thing is
is a pig. It's taken way too many resources for what it's doing.
Because what they're doing, they're buying all these companies, they're really not that
innovative. I think Google is much more innovative because they have they give people,
they develop, they developed. I mean, if you if you can
do coding, you have a leg up at Google. With Microsoft, oh
you can be a psychology or a history major, you'll do just fine.
Yeah. Yeah, Well, they're they're they're leaning more away from the tech
world in the sense that they're always eyes you. Tech guys are the ones
that are usually like with Google or running things yet know the text guys are
the guys that are taking it further. But you know, Microsoft's opened it
up to everybody else. Well they've got they've kind of got the masses under
their thumb because there's some monopolistic in their in their you know, their being.
I mean, that's just part of their mission is let's get rid of
the competition. Look what they did the word perfect. Oh yeah, they've
got into that where they basically just took well, this is a good idea,
and they'll just like, for example, VMware was the first virtual server
software that was dominating the world in the in the nineties. Well within half
a dozen years, Microsoft came up with the competitor hyper v to run on
their Windows servers, and they gave it away for free. I mean he's
going to win out here. Yeah, not too hard to figure. Give
it free samples off the corner, Well they're just samples. I mean you
just buy into their platform. Well you buy oh you got our platform,
Well you need this, you need that. But see, the thing that
really getting they're getting a lot of criticism for is because they're building all these
ad components, you know, all the little notifications, and everybody there that
put software on their platform now has a direct link to these notifications. So
they can pop up stuff. That's why a lot of people get messages says,
oh, your machine's being infected, you need to call this number.
Well, guess what. That's part of that opening up, you know,
so anybody can kind of do that and start masterminding the computer you thought you
owned. That's the problems we see when this stuff starts to monopolize and get
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gently to get away. Well, well we're going to complain it, will
Well, we would complain. I thought it was pretty interesting article. I
had a good time reading it because you try to figure out where these guys
are going and how they're and how they're getting there. It because of all
their alliances, you know, if they if they have a have you seen
the Netflix movie or is it the Prime movie? That's that's the three border
problem. Uh yeah, Well you'll see how you know, sending a message
out is not all is a good thing because when it comes back says,
uh, yeah, if we respond to this message, we're going to come.
We're going to come and see you. Yeah, you know, and
when you don't know who it is or what it is. That's kind of
what the premise is about. But that's kind of how it is. Like
the there's so much crossover. Now you have all these big, huge corporations
dominating the scene where he can't get by without him. Now you know,
they're like a necessary evil. Well they're locked into all of them. Well,
ever, your day to day stuff is locked into these huge corporations.
So it it's a challenge trying to do business and yeah, what do you
do with that? What do you do with that? It's it's a struggle
because yeah, people start taking over. You know, they just want to
take the next guy out. You know. That said, if there's two
competitors, one of them is going to win. You know, but now
we're in this coexisting world where we're having to coexist, but we have to
put up with all these idigosyncrasies like whether it's from Google, microsoftware. Well,
you know, when you go over to somebody else's platform. They fight
it like tooth and nail, just like Microsoft saying, oh, you need
to use Edge. Our our browser is the best and and it's so much
better. It's based on Chrome, you know. So they're saying, well,
yeah, try to upload Chrome and then Acrosoft machine deals never have Well,
yeah, it's a challenge. It's tough. Then making it really hard
for you to do it. I can't. Yeah, well, like I'm
installing those when is eleven machines trying to get out of having to create a
Microsoft account? You know, when I build machines, I don't build them
for myself. I'm building for somebody else. So what are you gonna do?
You know, you're gonna get all their credentials just to just to install
it. And said, well, so that's uh, that's that's the kind
of challenges I run into. But use these workarounds. But the average barriage
is not going to be able to deal with stuff like that, so they
get kind of funneled down into this road of there is no other option.
You have to you have to play by this game because the game's changed all
of a sudden, You're on a different platform and all the rules are different,
and either you learn to play in the game or you lose, yeah,
you know, or you go back, you know, and then trying
to make them coexist. That's that's the biggest nightmare for it people. It's
the integration stuff, you know, making things integrate. So this one works
with that one works with this one because you make one little change, you
pull that string, and you don't know what moves on the other end.
Right. Yeah, that's just the world we live in. So you have
to know a lot of stuff now that you didn't have to know before.
But that's that's everybody's life, you know, when they're you know, like
people when they're retired, they think, well, I don't have to use
this technology anymore. That's not true. You get you they're more plugged in
now because that's how people are saving money. You know. I'm exactly that
the guy you're talking about right there, because as you get closer to the
retirement, I'm thinking, I want to do away with all this stuff when
I'm done. But you know what, you're so integrated. If you walk
around your house and see everything that's it's plugged in, it's plugged in.
You go, man, I'll never get from all this. You're wired.
I mean the other way you could do just go be a caveman somewhere to
throw everything out the door, and then even then you probably won't be able
to survive without technology. We're there. You know, when you go to
the grocery store, you have to have some form of technology to be able
to purchase anything. Yeah, I remember remember when President he was talking about
the grocery store. He didn't even know we scan things and when you scan,
Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. All I said,
Okay, you're kind of removed. Well, he probably had to do the
shopping secret service. Probably all you did it for him. Yeah, you
never know, you know. But I was going to talk about too.
You know, since you're here, we're in this conversation about you know,
like computing. You know a lot of the questions I get and I get
a lot of calls sometimes over things like, you know, my computer went
out and I'm looking to buy a new computer. And you know, I'm
not going to be the one to be able to tell them this is what
you need. You need a computer guide tell you what you're gonna need.
But a lot of the question is do I buy new, or can I
get refurbished? What do you think of refurbished? And they'll last my opinion
on refurbished. But my opinion always runs around. You know, I see
how many people buy something from Amazon or eBay. You don't know who certified
it. I mean it may say certified from eBay or Amazon, refurbished,
certified refurbished, but you don't know who refurbished it. Whereas with like Microsoft
or Microsoft they or Walmart. Walmart has a certification program and a lot of
times when you buy a laptop from them, they've been certified through their corporate
offices. So you end up getting a pretty good device certified. But what's
your opinion on that, Charles? You know with that, the general rule
I have is all the machines that I recommend or build for people are just
that they are certified. But what I do is I get commercial grade sties.
Yeah. See, how do you know you're getting that? Well?
And then you have to figure out, okay, these are like stepping someone
this is good from here to there, and then after that you know you're
going to have to upgrade. If there's no upgrade options, you have to
replace it. Well with the machines like for example, I like those Z
series HP workstations. When they're new. They're expensive, there, thousands of
dollars. But you know when Corporate America swaps those out, they'll have thousands
of those things out there for about ten cents on a dollar. Yeah,
so that's the deal. So what I do. I strip out all the
memory, the hard drives, take the thing back down to the core machine
because I know it's solid. It's like buying a truck. You're designed for
off road vehicle, so it's going to last. It's tough, and I
can build on that because I know it's not going to break. You know,
the suspension is good, it'll go down the road. Sure. So
that's what I do is I get machines that are commercial grade. These consumer
ones are just made for short term. Yeah, they're gonna last. Well,
you know, I see so much of it because I got a guy
in recently bought a laptop off of Amazon, and he had more problems than
you could imagine. Without laptop. I mean, this wouldn't work, this
failed, that failed, But when you open it up and see the parts
that were installed, a lot of it was just garbage. Yeah. Well,
that's why I strip them down. Like I'll never take a hard drive
from a used machine, verified or whatever, because you don't know the history.
It could have been beat really bad. But I've noticed about the corporate
machines, they actually are pretty good about taking care of their machines. They're
not all beat up looking like the whole machines because the whole machines, you
don't know what they've been through. So when I get those machines, I'll
still replace the drives just to be safe because they're so cheap. Now,
as a matter of fact, if there's any gambers out there, there's some
heck of a deals on those. You know, the Samsung nvmy memory the
drives. Yeah, you know, they're replacing the physical drives. Those things
are screaming fast now, like they've got I think the Western Digital's got one
that I performs the Samsung, and it's cheaper like a like like for example,
you can get a Western Digital NVM E. I think it's an SN
eight point fifty x seventy three megabits per second. You know, is what's
going? That's a driver. All of a sudden, you click on copy,
it's done. I mean it's copied gigabytes just like that. Yeah,
and so for gaming that's really good. If you get a really good graphics
card and that I mean just find a good process or any machine will work
if you have those two things going for you. And that's a nice way.
So I would get a machine. If you're going to get a computer,
now get one that has the NVMe option. And even if they don't,
you could put a card in, you know, if it's a really
good, heavy duty, like a commercial grade machine, you can even take
them back. But the problem is you can't update the firmware and the drivers,
the bios, you know, for a machine that's like older than like
seventh generation Intel, those don't work anymore. You have to have eighth,
ninth, tenth, and it's up to the fourteenth generation. Now those things
will go a while. Yeah, so that's what I do. It's interesting,
that's good news. Yeah, but I tell you that drives really impressed
me. I just I built a server for myself using those drives and now
everything is like twenty times faster. Wow. Nice, you know, because
the way it builds the cash in well, it's made for gaming actually sure,
but the performance is just like instant response, it's like it's in memory
instead of being on a drive. Wow. You know, so I like
it. I like that thing to play with those, Yeah, But the
best price I found on them, Like, and this is the other thing
for the same thing you buy, Like if you were going to go to
Amazon or or you know wherever, you know, they'll sell those for about
one hundred and forty one hundred and eighty bucks. And you can get them
from Walmart right now for eighty one dollars. Wow. Is that a difference
or is that a difference? Yeah, that's the same thing. So they're
mass producing and actually they're made by sand Disk, which was bought out by
by Western Digital. But those things, I mean, they fly, and
you know, it'll take an old machine and it really brings some life into
it. So get a machine that has the NVMe disc and you know,
the eighth or new generation if it's an Antel or the later generation AMD,
you'll get a really good heavy duty machine that you like, you like you
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Charles and Charles we got here. I just know one thing. I looked
up at the clocket and we're whipping through a half hour. We had quite
a good conversation going here. Well, we'd like to make good recommendations for
our followers and our listeners. There really is and you know, we get
a lot of gaming machines. One of the biggest things that we challenge that
we've seen lately too. I think Jimmy experiences this last week with a guy,
these young guys buying these gaming machines that you assemble yourself, you know,
and well don't do a very good job of assembling. Well, it's
really they're not really engineered. They're individual components that you can show assemble.
But what I would recommend is get one of the heavy duty hp Z series
workstations. I mean, these are engineering workstations. They're made to do heavy
duty video editing. You know, AutoCAD. Where do you find for us?
Where do you find them? Where we can get them? They're all
over the place. You can probably find them on Amazon or eBay or any
of those things. But when you can see when there's a surge of them
all of a sudden, you can tell they've just went through a major upgrade.
And then when Corporate America upgrades, I mean they're two or three years
old, they're done, and just buy them the two or three years old
to get the current generation that you can and those things make great. Oh
yeah, well they're made for heavy duty stuff. But what I like about
them they're well supported because you can go to the site and download their little
solution pack, which basically has all their drivers and everything you need. And
the newer ones actually you go into the bios so instead of have an operating
system, you won't me to install it. I said, okay, you
click on it and within the bios it downloads the whole operating system and you
go through the install How nice is that? Wow, that's nice. So
you know they build stuff into those things that are designed for Corporate America,
but it's super fast just to do stuff like that. And then when you
put those high speed discs in there, those envme. Yeah, now you've
got a screaming machine. So anyway, I'm building those right now. So
they're really fun to build because you know, it's such a such a big
change for their performance. I got to say, nitro fuel form sometimes you
need that. Well, you know, when you have an older machine,
you're trying to build some life into it. The first thing you look for
is the processor. Is it new enough? Can you update it? Because
if you can't update the bios, the hardware, all those leaks that they
are probably vulnerabilities we've had for agent. Now that they become public, now
you're vulnerable. Before people didn't know where they existed. But now they can
read the articles and say, okay, well here's a vulnerability, let's go
for that. So they put their scanner out to go to the internet.
Somebody left their back door open. Here, I'll go in there and take
care of this plant themselves. And that's why you got bots of thousands and
thousands of bots that are all running in unison, driven by some entity.
As a matter of fact, there's a lot of financing going on for like
North Korea and Russia that's coming straight from things like that. Well, maybe
that's the whole problem with my computer because it has a lot of play on
it. But there's a lot of hands on it. Yeah, a lot
of different hands and you never know who. Yeah, what's only going on?
Yeah, it's all this invincible stuff and that's why you know, there
are some good tools like CIS internals, for example, is a good one.
Look at all the processes, Look at all the stuff going in and
out of this thing. Look at the memory. Look what's running. And
if it's it doesn't show a company who belongs to you know, I'd be
suspicious. But you can you can see those things if you can boot your
machine and get to it. Wow. All right, now I'm I'm somewhere
between. Got to get that and gee, I'm scared like the rest of
us, just like the rest of us here. Oh my goodness. Well
it's been a fun wed day, guys. Take care as we get ready
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