Welcome to Spacing Out with Bob and Jason this week covering Battlestar Galactica Season four
episode six Faith. Welcome back. I'm Babe and I'm Jason, and this
is spacing Out where today we will be discussing Battlestar Galactica. If you are
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anything past this episode, which is Battlestar Galactica season four, episode six Faith.
This aired on May ninth, two thousand and eight. Written by Seamus
Kevin Faye, directed by Michael Nankin. The survivor count was thirty nine thousand,
six hundred and seventy five, which was a loss of one from the
last episode who died. I don't know the lady who was in this episode
that died, but they don't count her before she's dead. No, so
maybe something because I show that number in the credits. In this episode,
a mutiny attempt aboard the Demetrius ends with Gaeta being shot in the leg by
Yonder's Starbuck investigates the open story about Cylon Civil War and returns with a Cylon
base ship. The ship's hybrid cryptically tells her that the final five Cylons know
a way to Earth and that's the number of three easy to be unboxed in
order to identify them. And on Galactica, President Roslin undergoes cancer treatments and
has long conversations with another patient who is a convert to Guys Baltaar's monotheistic preachings.
Five check Did we like the episode overall? How does it stand the
test of time? Did you like that episode? I do like this episode
quite a bit. I think it's a really good one. I mean,
last episode we were talking about how like not a whole lot of interesting stuff
happened, and I feel like this episode picked up where it left off and
gave us a lot more. Yeah, it gave us a bunch. We're
moving and shaking. Yeah, it was a lot of action right off the
bat, and we got to see some of these storylines kind of come together
with the Cylons finally counting each other. They're like, oh, yeah,
there is five of us that we don't know about. Well, this finally
like meeting up with the humans. Oh yeah, that too, And there's
getting more and more scared of being found out, but also really curious about
the psylon experience, Like he wanted to touch the Gooden he was ready.
He's like, I wonder what it does to me? Yeah, so it
was good. And then motherfuckers, right, he's like so trigger happy.
He shot two people today. Well the second one wasn't really his choice,
but he was holding the gun. So lots of death in this one.
Yeah. And then our scenes with Laura Roslin were engaging. I think they
were a little long winded a little bit, Yeah, but I was okay.
It was nice to take a moment with her, and it kind of
balanced the episode in a way. Yeah. Yeah, we need to see
what we needed to see what was going on on Galactica. It's been a
while since we were in this episode. It's very heavy on the pylon human
interactions and that what's going on with Demetris or whatever the ship is called the
mission. So I was glad to like jump back to Galactica and get a
little human interest story on Rosalind. Her grandma looks like Betty White or her
mom, I mean, and all I can think of when she was looking
at her mom across the river, was you changed her diaper? You brought
that up, So now that's what I'm thinking about. It would have been
a great spot for some cameos. Yeah, her family is that Mike Myers,
Who do you think they could get to cameo? I mean there was
a notable cameo in this episode already, right with the Emily. Yeah,
and some people I didn't notice at first. You had to point it out
and then it was really blatantly obvious. Is that part of trivia? Yeah?
Okay, well do you want to do that? Yep? Okay,
But we like the episode, like that's consensus trivia time. What facts could
we uncover? For Faith Baltar his voices throughout this whole episode. A lot
of his wireless broadcasts contains a number of phrases from the to be here not
to be soliloquy of Hamlet. Oh. I don't know why, but Shakespeare.
Maybe he's like the Shakespeare of this generation, because you know, they
already have a Jimi Hendrix, so they should have a Shakespeare. Or the
writers are just a bunch of nerds. The hybrid, the speech it repeats
a lot borrows some tanks from the Biblical Book of jerem It was Jeremiah.
I never heard of the biblical book of Jeremiah. Is that in the Bible?
Oh? Okay, jeremiahs And I knew that name sounded biblical when I've
heard it on people's people's but I didn't realize there was a whole book of
Jeremiah. I thought he was just named in passing. Okay, who was
he? Do you know anything about Jeremiah or the Book of Jeremiah. I'm
not a church person, so I don't know anything about the books of the
Bible. Well, I know Genesis and Revelations. Is Revelations the one with
the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Yeah, yeah, that's all I know.
I know the beginning of the end. I think Jeremiah is a very
kind of sad book. It's like it's a lament oh if i'm remember incorrectly,
kind of a poetic book. Interesting. Um so Greek mythology, it's
very present in the episode. Yeah, they talk about Athena or no Ephrodite.
Emily's description of the Lord of Cobal and their behaviors consistent with Greek mythology.
When speaking of her mother's death, Laura Roslin mentions a field of elysium.
A portion of the Greek on their world were heroic or virtuous souls.
In the bafter death, Baltar is preaching of the symbolism of a boat crossing
a river to the land of the dead. Is very similar to the Greek
legends involving the river sticks. It can be expected that Baltar borrows some of
his teachings from an established religion that people are very familiar with. This parallels
the rise of Christianity, which express some of its ideas through existing cultural forms
of the Roman polytheistic religions. Right, Like, oh, you guys celebrate
this harvest festival that around this time of year. That's crazy because that's when
our Lord and Savior was born or something. I don't know. They always
like meet things up and they're like, how interesting that we're having a like
a celebration on a solstice. Interesting. Yeah, you can't bring something too
radically different because then people just reject it. Right, right, you're already
celebrate renewal, So if we just throw in a berth or something in there.
Everybody loves a story about a baby being born as long as they get
to party. Nana Visitor plays Emily. You may know her as Kira on
Star Trek Deep Space nine, where she worked with Ronald D. Moore,
and she was originally considered for a Starbucks mother last season, but she was
unavailable. Oh I'm glad they didn't use her as a Starbucks mother because Starbucks
mother was off putting. Yeah, not that this character wasn't with her scary
teeth, but it was just I liked her in this role. I'm glad
we got that dream sequence where she didn't have to look like she did in
that bed. Oh my god. Yeah, that wasn't the last image she
wanted to remember her by. I got an okay boomer fact, okay boomer.
Let's look at any connection to the original Battlestar Galactica series. So Starbuck
has that painting that she believes is a comment going through space and later realize
it's a drifting baceship that's damage. But that image bears a visual resemblance to
the Ship of Lights from the original series, and the Ship of Lights was
a spacecraft used by the Beings of Light, and the ship could transport people
to another dimension. The Beings of Light were the ones that helped primitive humans
on Cobal develop their civilization, and they were thought of as angels by the
humans. They appear in two episodes of the original series, are implied to
be in the sequel series Galactical nineteen eighty implied to be. Yeah, there's
a character that they never outright say that that's a being of Light, but
it's kind of understood, like, Okay, we know who he is.
He's a celebrity and that brings us out of trivia deep space dive. Let's
break down some of our thoughts on the episode. You can share your thoughts
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on an upcoming episode. Well, this episode starts with guns blazing. Hell
yeah, They're like, you need to calm down. No, you calm
down. I'm gonna give my gun out because that makes things calm. Like
whoa, I can't believe that. Starbuck almost took them on, like she
started fighting against it, but then they disarmed her and the first thing they
pointed at was her vagina. They didn't point the gun at her face.
They lowered the gun but still pointed it at her. But it was like,
I'm like what. I don't know if you noticed. It was really
subtle. They were pointing it like down on her abdomen or bought lower body,
which okay, I guess that's where you would rather point. But anders
then eventually like was pointing down and shot somebody, which I guess is good
because at least he didn't shoot him in the head, you know, like
a headshot. It look it's more believable that something like that would happen in
that kind of like escalated tension, So I can't believe it was fucking Felix
though, fucking Data, poor Data, Gata, sorry Gata. I hate
saying his name sometimes because it feels homophobic, but his name is Felix,
right, okay, Yeah, And he's like already not having a good time
on the ship. He's like sweaty. He's used to being very prim and
clean and like in the nice ship, so now he's like in this toilet
chip sweating his balls off, probably not having nice access to regular bathing,
and with other sweaty people just all up in your business. So I feel
like really bad for him. He's just having a bad time, and then
nobody's taking care of his wound dressing it looks like it looks like he has
the same bloody rag the whole fifteen hours that they're there, which is not
really recommended for wound care. I mean, I hope they're changing it.
You need to clean it, like initially at least every two hours if it's
draining or anything like that. You really got to clean that wound. I'm
glad they got the bullet out. But when you saw her digging in his
leg and I think his bone snapped, was that bone I saw? Okay,
I was like, this is disgusting, and then yeah, I really
like that. But it was like sick and very painful. And in the
first like ten minutes of the episode, so um, and they're arguing,
but after Felix gets shot, they're like, Okay, maybe it's not worth
us arguing all this over. We'll compromise. Suddenly the start thinking you other
solutions. It took a motherfucker to get shot and almost lose a leg.
He might lose a leg. I don't know. That looked disgusting, And
then I feel like if they were valuing his life, they would have just
jumped right there. That's It's what I don't get. If so starbucking them
leave, They have to sit there for fifteen hours. Why can't they jump
back to Galactica, get Gata in the duck coddle, and then you know,
jump back to meet Right, it's the same place. I don't know.
Did they run out of fuel? Like you can get refueled at Galactica?
Yeah, I don't know. This plan didn't make a lot of sense
to me, but it was I guess entertaining to have a clock running.
Yeah, yeah, definitely, That's not something that I would have noticed on
my first time watching, probably, but yeah, stopping, you think about
it and like, well can't they just because Gata has to get medical attention,
y'all obviously don't know what you're doing, and they yeah, I don't
know. But anyway, after they decide to compromise, Starbuck leaves and is
greeted by Number six with a grudge against the girl that was really willing to
follow Starbuck anywhere she fucking went. Yeah, her name was Barkley Barley,
and she's kind of a Cylon hater, which is like, why would you
come on this piece mission if you're obviously not into peace with science? It
sounds like she really believes in Starbuck finding Earth, well, she pays with
her life, and I guess she watched number six drown, which is weird
and creepy. I don't know if I could watch something so humanoid, just
like drown and die. The dehumanization of the Cylon race is so real in
this. And then there's even like self Cylon hate when Sharon watches the other
Sharon die and it's because they had some sort of disagreement that was really petty,
and she even said you were right. Those were her last words.
Basically, I was wrong, you were right, and that's her and this
time they're really dead and Anders definitely picks up on that, and it was
a little weird because they had such a quiet moment. It made me uncomfortable.
But there was a bunch of stuff that happened just in between those times,
like when because they didn't want Starbuck to talk to the Hybrid, which
I don't know why, because nobody understands what the fuck the hybrid is talking
about. Anyway, It's like, sure, if you can decipher something out
of what she's saying, go for it. I don't understand their protection of
a hybrid, especially when they don't really respect the Hybrid. It's weird.
I think it varies between the cylons because like Leo Wynn thinks, the Hybrids
are like just speaking prophecy all the time and everything has meaning, but the
majority of the silence are like, you know, they're just like a part
of the ship. So I'm just like, now, all of a sudden,
you're so protective of like your catalytic converter or something. What Well,
they refer to the hybrid as like the central nervous system, so it's like
they're protective because it's a big security issue. Oh okay, because they didn't
just get blown up by the other Cylons. What do you got to lose?
I don't. I still don't get it like it is. And the
thing is they had to take her offline regardless if they wanted to get out
of there. They were either waiting for death or taking a chance on salvation.
I just I don't Sometimes I don't understand why the Cylons make decisions like
this. But Starbuck gets what she wants anyway. Throughout this episode, she
gets what she wants and she might get answers with what they're talking about.
Now, whatever the Hybrid told her, it took a number six to fucking
translate it. But they got it because Starbuck was still like, I don't
know what she meant, like, I don't know what you want for me?
What are you talking about an opera house? She has no idea,
And I don't know. What I'm interested in is to know if the number
six models all have that same dream or vision. Because the one that's held
captive on Galactica does have those visions and she shared that with Laura. So
do they all have that vision because they're all connected in a weird way.
I just wonder because their dreams are we're seeing right now in this episode.
This proves that multiple people can have the same dream, So what's not to
say that the Silence can all have the same dream. I don't know.
I'm just putting things together here. I don't know. I don't think we've
been given anything to say that it is anyone other than Kaprica Sicks having that
dream, right and Atha? But then how come all of the hidden Cylons
are all having the same brain delusion of hearing that song? I don't know.
So they could put together the opera house right there, but I don't
know if they will based on how juicy of a piece of the puzzle that
is. And I'm sure they're waiting for one of the lead actors to reveal
it soon, hopefully, remember, I don't know, but yeah, I
feel like I have visions about an opera house, and I know all about
the six and the thirteen and the four and the five. I couldn't understand
any of what the hybrid was saying neither, but she said something like that,
I don't know, do you have any theories? That's my theory right
now. It's like, I want to know if all the sixes have had
this opera dream, because it seems that humans and cylons can see the same
thing or hear the same thing, so can they dream the same thing?
I don't know how, or do they have to be one of the cylons
that were at the opera house to have that? But I don't know,
I don't know. I'm so confused. This episode made my little wheels turn
and I'm really excited for the next one. I think I think it is
specifically Kaprico six and Athena in that dream with Rosalind. Okay, okay,
so they're specific models and Athena's there, so she would understand that reference.
And I don't know if they've told people about this dream that they've shared or
that's kind of just under wraps, because you probably wouldn't want to share that
if you're the president. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And maybe Athena that
hasn't talked to Number six to like say that we've had the same dream,
so maybe she hasn't put it together that it's a shared tree. Interesting,
Okay, Well, I don't know anything else we need to talk about.
We were talking about, um, the number six and Barclay, and I
just I like that, like we get to have an idea of like what
death is like for the cylons. There's a lot of death for the cylons
in this episode. Yeah, but like it's when they're when it's traumatic,
like it stays with them, right right, it's not just like you remember
it. Death isn't just this revolving door like it matters, right, Yeah.
And it's interesting that she didn't get over it. And I wonder how
many other like do is there. Obviously there's multiple versions of different models,
and they will box a whole model. I wonder how many times they've had
to box just an individual of a model because they're erratic or unruly. They're
obviously a really good at killing centurions, and even hybrids are easy to replace
apparently. I don't know, but I wonder if they have like a way
of dealing with what's perceived to be as mental illness to some extent or or
you know, because she has like PTSD and she probably has some sort of
depression anxiety like something that's causing her to remember this and not let it go.
And I want, like they said, we talked about this, remember,
So do they have like group therapy? What's going on? Yeah?
I mean we kind of saw a little bit of that when we were with
caps Kaprica six and Boomer when they were back on Earth. They were back
on Earth. Oh I'm sorry, not Earth Caprica. Oh okay, okay,
So when they were back on Caprica, what happened? They were trying
to like rehabilitate those two. Oh yeah, they had kind of paired them
up together because they thought they could help each other. Yeah. Yeah,
so yeah, I think they are trying to help each other process. They're
also they're a very young society, like a few decades. Oh yeah,
so you know, they're it's probably all very new to them having to deal
with Elvis. Yeah, I wanted to point out when they when they jump
the raptor to the crash graveyard place, they seemed to jump like right in
the middle of it, right like there was no way of knowing that they
wouldn't have jumped right into a ship right like with halfway in a wall or
something. Yeah, you want to talk about President Roslin and her six scarf.
It was so long, it was like almost hair. She was so
bald. Holy shit, when she was talking to Tori, that head was
like shining. Yeah, that was I didn't know she had such a big
old head. They did it almost like a reveal, like we're in the
scene for a little bit before we actually cut to this her her bald cap,
which in the commentary they talked about how they actually had to like reduce
it in with the effects because it was so like bulbous. I bet she
looked like an alien or something. That's funny, and it still seemed like
large to me. It was a big old head. Oh that's so bad,
and so smooth, like she's gotta be shaving with a razor. And
I feel like they should have put some veins in it. Or something something
to make it look realistic a little bit, like a little contour. I
don't know. It was just so pale and white. It would have been
funny if she had like a sun tan in the shape of her bangs or
you know, like sometimes when she's getting any sun. Oh, you're right,
Well, you don't think they have those satellites on ships. Maybe hopefully
because I feel like seasonal depression. There's probably like such a thing as like
ship depression or sailor depression or something like that. People who are stuck in
a tin can for months and months and months, they should have like an
outdoor simulator or something. But I don't know. This is an old ship
too, I don't know. But yeah, at least some lights. She
could have had a little tan just on her her part, just one little
line where her part is. So yeah, she's delegating work to Tori.
She's like, girl, I'm gonna be way offline, so you need to
be extra vigilant, not knowing that Tori's a fucking cylon and she feels no
guilt or remorse about playing both sides of the field. But and Laura's like,
I noticed that you're working extra hard now and used to be super stressed,
but now you're not. And she just left it at that. She
didn't say what's different or you know, yeah, she didn't pry or anything,
which I don't know if I like that or if I hate that,
because what would have Tori said? That's what I want to know, like,
what's your secret? Fucking Baltar on the regular apparently, or like I
didn't get the sense, but like, was she implying that she knows how
much time she's spending with Maltar's cult? Oh maybe she's like, h I
can tell you got a little sugar in your tank or something. I think
that means queer actually, but maybe maybe she knows. Oh I didn't even
think about that. But I mean, as much time as Tory goes,
surely somebody would have said something or sawn something by now crazy. But she
goes to Doc Coddle, and Doc Coddles like, right, he just always
give me that vibe. He's just working in this episode. Yeah, he's
not lecturing or anything. No, no, no, he's actually he's like,
we need to make her comfortable. That's his line that I remember watching
Somebody Dies Not easy. That's definitely part of this episode, and more people
do witness death in this episode than in lots of other episodes, even like
episodes where there's battles and shit. I feel like we don't see death this
prade this way in the show often, which is interesting. We got cilon
death and then cilon like trauma because of death, and then we got human
death and human trauma because of death, and how that was really interesting.
I like that, Like it was very coherent and very obvious how we were
moving through that, and how the humans are dealing with their death, and
how Gaius is helping certain humans in a way that they haven't been helped before
through death and grieving, which is interesting. He's like giving the people a
new hope. Sorry, but it is true. He's giving people a hope
that like there's this afterlife where I get to see my relatives and I get
to go on this nice boat ride and I'm in my Sunday best And I
can't believe no one ever thought of a death like that in all their years
of existence and civilization, because surely not everybody's polytheistic or not everybody believes in
the same gods. There's other cultures and people there's other planets, for Christ's
sakes, So how come this colony is so shaken by this idea of one
true God? It's interesting, like everybody's eating it up. She's like,
oh, let me trace that Christianity. I don't know. And it's I
think it's alluring. I think it feels safe, and it's like giving people
like a better explanation of their current situation. Yeah, it's giving them some
meaning, some purpose. Like the woman was talking about, like how her
family gets wiped away in the attacks and then she lives in a multi room
for a few years only to be killed by her own body illness. Yeah,
her body attacking herself. Yeah. Yeah, And there's probably so many
people that feel so contained. Yeah, and the gods haven't helped them.
Where are the gods? Dude? So when the gods die, what else
do you believe it? And Baltar is giving them the sab to their wounds.
It's interesting. I don't know. I like this episode because it's it's
like giving us some cool action, a lot of blood, a lot of
gore. But then also it's not all like for nothing. There's like this
deep meaning behind a lot of it, and it's like people are reflecting upon
it. They're like sitting with it in a way that we do sit with
death. We can't just shake it off. It's like this thing that's always
looming and how do you cope with that. It's interesting. I really liked
it. Yeah, and Rosalind gets to explore some of her trauma with her
own mother's death. Yeah, she kind of confronting her fear of death right
because she didn't want to be that person. That's like what I got from
it. She's like superimposing her personal feelings and ideas onto her mother's death because
she remembers what it was like to take care of her at that time,
like this strong, independent leader who was also a teacher. So she had
like little kids. I don't know if they were little kids. She said
they would walk through fire for her, And I'm like, I don't want
my students to walk through fire for me. That's not what I want.
They would do anything for me, but not walk I don't want kids.
I don't want to imagine that. So it was such a triggering for me.
I was like upset by that kind of phrasing and terminology because but I
see what they were trying to do their painting a picture of this person.
But that was a little too much. Just but it was funny listening to
that story and her talking about her mom, and then you at the end
you see what she looked like, and I'm like, I didn't imagine her
looking like this at all. I wanted like an older version of her,
like not like a really like a she looked like the Queen of England or
like Betty White. And I'm like, I don't know, I didn't believe
it. I wouldn't walk through fire for that lady. She looked like a
mean teacher, like if she was a teacher, she'd probably tell kids to
like spit out their gum and be quiet. I don't know. I wanted
her to be like a nicer teacher, looking like maybe like a little hippie
because she believed in Athena and all this shit. I don't know. I
was a little disappointed with the person. And she's wearing this bright pink or
blue what was what color was she wearing? It was like an obnoxious easter
color. Yeah, it all did look very like everybody's going to easter.
Yeah, and I I just, yeah, I just don't know. I
didn't like the costuming on that. It would have been cool if they were
just wearing like togas or but they I don't know. I guess it's the
New God. So the New God's got to give you like pearls and and
floral dresses. Um, I don't know. It was interesting. Um that
boat was big too. I wasn't expecting the boat to be so big.
I was hoping for like a more rustic boat for some reason. I don't
know why. I don't know where they get a rustic boat. Yeah,
that fell out of place, like when that ship first comes on yeah screen,
because I guess I would expect like a kind of small little boat that
they're paddling. Yeah, And it would have been cool if they could like
make one to look like wood or natural like materials, because I feel like
a canoe can hold two people if they're like a little wider, and they
didn't have to, like they could just be sitting on the boat. There's
ways to like get a boat to the middle of the river and then just
let it sit there, Like you could have anchored it so that they the
actors were just sitting in a canoe looking out. But they wanted this river
to be huge, and they wanted this land to be so green and lush,
and it was jarring because I'm so used to this gray aesthetic that I
was like, where are we? What is happening? I wish they would
have like hazed us in or eased us into this, or it would have
been cool if it was like night stars, like her looking out her window
in the night, and then it fades to that blue rich water. Give
me some like ted. They spent their fucking CGI budget on making her head
less big. I don't know. It would have been cool if they framed
it more dream like, is what I'm saying. It didn't. It felt
weird and surreal and out of place. But she was so excited about it,
and I was like, oh. She had to go tell Bill right
away in the middle of the night. She's like, I had the same
dream, and He's like, yeah, you will. I guess that's what
you're gonna do now. I like that moment with them at the end.
Yeah, there's a Dama who has like notably been very very much like an
atheist through most of the series, is now like I believe in you,
I believe in finding Earth. Yeah, it was just some lie, I
told, but now it's going to happen. Yeah. And his smile,
it was so cute and iconic. Yeah. You don't realize how seldom he
smiles until he does. Yeah, and then it's a joy. It was
so welcome. And then the episode ended and you're like, oh my god,
they're gonna find earths and it's very hopeful. And I like that too.
And he's also worried about all his kids he sent away. Oh yeah,
his babies. Oh, he's gonna be upset when he finds out one
of them died. But yeah, good episode. I really liked it.
I'm really excited for the next one. Astral queen. Who was the standout
character in the episode? Who's your astral queen? I don't know. I
really want to pick Onders. I was thinking about him, but he's also
the one that shot. But I think that's hilarious. I think it's hilarious
because he's so high, strong and emotional and he's like totally invested. I
think I want to give it to Anders because he does the best acting he's
ever done too, especially when he's about to touch the goo. Oh my
god, I was so tense. I was I saw him looking at it.
I saw him eye involved in it, and I was like, he's
thinking what I'm thinking. So I'm giving it to Anders. Another contestant or
another one that I considered was Emily because she's like, I don't give a
fuck, you're the president. I'm going to listen to my shows. You
better not fucking turn it off. And then she's like kind of backtracks and
she's like, I don't listen to him because he talks shit on you.
But I like his message, but his message is talking shit on her.
So it was I liked her though her character was nice. It was like
very frank and real, and I feel like she treated the president in a
way that the president hasn't been treated in a long time, like a human.
Yeah, so it was cool. But Anders is tripping on shit,
accidentally shooting people because somebody forces you to. It was fun. He's just
kind of if you would have put that Benny Hill soundtrack on him when he
shot Gaida, it would have been fucking gold. There is like layers,
So what's going on with Anders? Because he's also like in the middle of
a Cylon ship surrounded by cylons and the hybrid and like at any moment he's
worried that someone is going to realize who he is. Yeah, and then
they in the episode with them like going out a plan to find out who
the final five Cylon are right, and he's like, I know three of
those dudes, we're fucked. So I'm I really like his position. Who's
yours? Are you thinking? And there's two? Yeah, yeah, I
guess you guess who else would have it have been? I just don't like
to be shot Gaeta. It wasn't on purpose. If it was on purpose,
it would have been like in the chest, in the shoulder, in
the face. He didn't even apologize. Why would he That motherfucker was screaming
in agony and pain. He's not going to be in any position to like
accept an apology. I know. All right, And there's two awards coming
your way? Yeah you Cylon fuck? Are you ready for spoilers? Oh
my god? Yes. So that's that's the end of the main part of
our episode. We will go into the spoiler section and we will spoil some
things. So if you are not someone looking for boilers, you know,
leave, you have to leave and we will see you next time. For
the episode. For the episode called guess what's coming to dinner? What's coming
to dinner? Yep, I feel like that could be derogatory if you call
somebody like that, guess what's coming to give dinner, honey, and it's
an actual person that shows up, and it's like rude calling me a thing.
Yeah, I think it goes into that dehumanization they were just talking about.
Oh okay, okay, that's interesting. Okay, damn, that's racist.
All right, let's do it in this group. Race for Impact.
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part of the discussion. Spoiler five four three two one. Who's coming to
dinner? It's the Cylons? Yeah, they're the what Yeah. I think
next episode is also going to be interesting one because we're jumping that bay ship
back to the feet. It's going to be a rat alert. Everybody's going
to be shooting their pants. Yea. Hopefully it doesn't land on anybody when
it comes in. Now, I'm sure it'll land and nobody will be hurt
or injured. They'll land perfectly in the middle of the space. Um,
so the reception is like mild, medium or hot um because I don't remember
anything. Well, if you really want me to spoil it, yes,
that's what we're doing. Please. They're gonna jump both the bay Ship and
then Demetrius at the same time because they're idiots, and the Demetrius has an
issue, so the bay Ship gets there first. Oh no, and they
don't have any communications. Oh no. So yeah, it's it's a mess.
Yeah, talk about Gata. Gata is never the same after this.
No, he lost his spunk. I kind of almost spoiled it in the
beginning where I talked about him losing a leg. He loses a leg,
y'all yep, Oh my god. And then he's got this cane and this
attitude. I feel like he becomes somebody who he never thought he'd become,
but he everywhere all capable of it after trauma. You and I feel like
there's no way for him to grieve this through this, and I'm sure we'll
see it like he hasn't absolutely no support, which is the difference between the
cylons and the humans in a lot of weights. The silence took care of
each other after they have experienced something traumatic and they try to work through it.
And his leg when it's amputated, but like it never stops irritating him.
Right, Yes, phantom pain, this physical manifestation of just like what
he's experience acing. Yeah, they did him so dirty. And the fact
that it is Anders that does pull the trigger and he will eventually learn that
he's a cylon and like as the as as the colonial fleet begins to like
ally itself with some of these cylons, you know, Data is never okay
with that. No, he's not on board at all. I wouldn't be
either. Yeah, I wouldn't be either. So I completely get it.
And it sucks because I'm pretty sure he dies and he never like it's not.
I feel like his story arc is just so tragic. It was one
of the most disappointing parts of this show for me, because I really he's
like a beloved character to me. Yeah, And another character that I feel
like didn't get the best treatment is d Like she's she doesn't get back in
the fold, not not as much she's Yeah, for someone who had such
like a big role seasons two and three, Like I think we've seen her
like once this season so far. Yeah, they're treating her like this like
NASA CX wife. We're also we're just we're not spending a lot of time
in the cic the Yeah, the season hasn't been a lot about like battle
conflicts. It's been a lot of like interpersonal conflicts and religion and monotheistic like
conflicts between different philosophies and mindsets, and then Earth and now the Final Five,
and there's no room for the day to day, which is I like
the day to day like one of the one I think there was one episode
where they were following around the crew during a regular day and it was one
of my favorite episodes. So it's just that's behind us, and now we're
like in the opera house and we're discovering cylons and it's just different. That's
the episode where Gata had like his shirt on buttons smoking a cigarette. Yeah,
yeah, see likes And I'm gonna miss that guy. I'm really gonna
miss him because I know from here it's kind of downhill for him and it
just sucks. Spoilers, Well, I feel like that was a show.
Yeah, you got anymore to spoilers say? Just real quick. The hybrid
was kind of dropping some hints about the Final Five and that she says they
come from the home of the Thirteenth mean they come from Earth. The truth
is that they the Cylons are the thirteenth tribe, meaning on Cobal, there
is twelve tribes of humans and none of the Cylons that they created. Oh
and then when they did the exodus from Coobal, the Cylons went on their
own. Okay, that's so long ago. Yeah, okay, that's the
story. That's it unfold all right. And then those Cylons, after their
Earth was destroyed, they met up with the Centurions and created the other seven
Cylons that we know. Oh and they don't remember any of this, but
they know where Earth's the first one, just so when they fucked up.
I can't wait till they find that fucked up Earth and now their hopes and
dreams are smashed. Yeah, that's what the show needs, is the hope
crushed. I just like it when bad things happen on TV. It's okay
because it's fiction. All right, let's get out of here. Yeah,
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