WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:07.639 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalaz Sound Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:14.759 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure your most Prized Possessions katz R 3 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.359 two SA at iHeartRadio Station. Than Good afternoon, everybody. You welcome to 4 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:22.320 Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. 5 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:26.559 He's Jagan Zawas hitting with us today is we have analyse Who's going to be 6 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:30.960 with us for a while. Good day. I'm excited to be here. 7 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:34.960 I have some questions for you students at u A. It's not like nothing's 8 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:38.600 going on over there. Yeah, no kidding. I mean we were fortunate 9 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:41.920 to get the big news of the day from yesterday, which will continue today 10 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:47.640 with the firing letting go of Dave hike Man. That was that was crazy 11 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:49.479 right at the you know, right at the end of the end of the 12 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:53.240 show. Yeah, you know, just happy to glance at my email as 13 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:56.119 I was wrapping up my computer because we were ending the show, and there 14 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:59.159 it is right at the top. And it was a as I mentioned yesterday, 15 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.840 was it was from the u A News department, not from sports. 16 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:06.719 So we're we're old dudes, And we've been through news cycles before. We 17 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:10.920 were in the industry where Thursdays or Fridays were those news dumps were dumb people 18 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:14.280 would hope that they wouldn't get much play. Well, we're no longer in 19 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:18.439 that era. It's news boom boom boom, and it's Internet. It's it's 20 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.640 getting on the news that we got it on and I don't you know, 21 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:23.040 that's what the UA was thinking. You can dump it at the end of 22 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.599 the day all you want. It's going to get out right away the way 23 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.920 it did. I mean, you know, in our case, we got 24 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:34.400 we were on with it like three or four minutes after the news reason and 25 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:37.280 Twitter was all over it, and then everybody was all over it right after 26 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:40.760 that. All the talk shows were on it. Uh, the there were 27 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:44.640 you know there emergency podcasts because of it. I saw it in the New 28 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:49.280 York Times. Yeah, it's star reaching, far reaching, so you know 29 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.079 it was. It was nuts and so yeah, go ahead, make you 30 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:56.239 know, do the news dump, but it's going to get out there right 31 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.439 my impression, and forgetting some calls or taking the calls that no buddy or 32 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:04.920 few people, if any knew anything. Do you a Michael, they have 33 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.919 no idea. Anybody they know, no idea was coming. It came right 34 00:02:07.919 --> 00:02:12.199 as they were leaving the door, and they were like, what the heck 35 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.560 just happened? Yeah, like somebody hitting you inside of their head and said, 36 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:21.120 here go go. Just you know, again odd timing, because very 37 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.439 odd timingtball coach, And let's go with that because it is odd timing. 38 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:29.960 You if you're if you know, you're gonna let your guy go, which 39 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:31.879 I don't think he did at that time, You're gonna you're gonna gonna tell, 40 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:37.319 You're gonna tell what's the purpose of the higher? Now are you comfortable 41 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:43.639 if you're Brad br Brent Brannant, if you think about it, well, 42 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:47.400 I don't think. I don't think he's completely uncomfortable with it, because he's 43 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:52.599 got history, he knows, sure, sure, and I think there's a 44 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:57.520 respect for that. You know, the likelihood that Arizona's gonna go get somebody 45 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:04.599 with some Arizona connections, probably for high and so I think you're Brent Brandon, 46 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.000 You're you don't like it, Yeah, but you're probably not a good 47 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:10.800 answer, good answer, And anybody else in that building, it just comes 48 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:15.639 as a weird timing. Weird timing, right, you hired a coach five 49 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:20.199 days five days prior. Officially, he's not. Doctor Robinson is not at 50 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.439 the event. I was told he was ill. Confirmed that he was ill. 51 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:25.560 He was not at the Sunday Saturday game with U C. L A. 52 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:29.479 I put that in my story. That was odd to me. But 53 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:31.400 apparently he had some functions to get to. He was okay, but he 54 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:37.960 went to functions and and here we are, and here we are. Let 55 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:43.400 me say, what's the what's the have you been on campus, what's what's 56 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.919 the what's the vibe? Or do kids even care? People are talking about 57 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:49.599 it, for sure, about Brent Brennan, Like everyone at the football game 58 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:53.520 on Saturday was talking about it after I mean the basketball game afterwards was talking 59 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.240 about it. I think, no, No, I'm talking about the Heikey 60 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.960 the Hey final. People are talking about that too. Yeah. I think 61 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.120 it's just kind of came as a surprise to everybody. It's just kind of 62 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:09.719 weird. Yeah, kind of weird is exactly it. So so Jay, 63 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:14.319 you know how these things, there's always more to the story. He's not 64 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.360 going to be the first guy, you know, He's not the first guy 65 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:20.759 now and I say this, Uh, we've had doctor Robbins on here a 66 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:25.519 lot. He's a friend of the program. Right, But if you if 67 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:31.439 you get rid of the ad who's next, Who's next? Yeah? And 68 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.720 you know, and and that that's that's you know, question number one that 69 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:39.639 people have. Well, wait a minute, this this financial stuff that's going 70 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:43.480 on, This isn't all Daved bingo bingo. There's there's you know, there's 71 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:47.600 some apparently there seems to have been some mismanagement. There's some audit report coming 72 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:51.839 out. It's gonna a theoretic or that we're told is not going to look 73 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:57.879 good. But the two hundred and forty million dollary issue going on at the 74 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:03.560 University of Arizona and the Athletic farment is and and he's been have they been 75 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:10.519 transparent with that number? And you have to look regardless of if there's some 76 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:15.839 mismanagement of stuff. You know, you got to understand that Dave Heke and 77 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:17.720 and the Ethnic Partment had to deal with the COVID thing. I mean that 78 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:21.600 was tens of millions of dollars that you know that were impacted there just by 79 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:26.160 not having you know, games and stuff. Well, the perfect storm hit. 80 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.120 Yeah, the perfect storm hit at this time where you needed a coach 81 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:31.759 that you could well. The money issue for the coach was not there because 82 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.199 let's say they come up with five point five six million, you think Jed's 83 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:40.000 gonna stay? No, exactly exactly and gifts If he does stay, how 84 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.199 many years will he stay? One? Look, I I you know the 85 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:48.439 whole all the all the people it's saying that this had something to do with 86 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:51.480 the contract. No, I'm not buying that. Don for a second, 87 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:55.839 me too. Jed Fish was leaving. Yes, he was going somewhere, 88 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.360 and you know, and now you know, in the aftermath, we're finding 89 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:01.680 out he was talking to some other he looked into some other jobs. And 90 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.360 you're confident in that, right, right, confident he was going somewhere. 91 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:10.800 He did his three years, which is fine his average. Now he was 92 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.680 talking, he was talking the game that that it upset people that he was 93 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:15.720 the things he was saying, and then he took this job. But if 94 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.040 he hadn't said those things and left after three years, you know, when 95 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:24.120 when he had done what he just did, and his his marketability was as 96 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:27.160 high as he could possibly be, as high as they might ever get. 97 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.439 Why wouldn't you take a job? Yeah, we have, no question, 98 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:33.199 no question. Same thing that his his predecester at Washington did when he went 99 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:35.759 to Alabama, right, took more money and went to a bigger program. 100 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:40.399 Right, So no fault there he did. He did leave one of the 101 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:44.959 things in that tweet that we saw from whomever about mcmurtray. Are you looking 102 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.800 because it sounds different? Yeah, it does sound getting the level of sound 103 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:53.680 that I would be. Would we do sound differently? Yeah? But he 104 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:59.560 talked about boosters losing boosters. I haven't exactly. I haven't seen anybody not 105 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:04.160 on the same page for years. The Stevens group have not been around. 106 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:09.519 I think it's a Stephens group who were upset with the Miller situation. But 107 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.800 but that was three or four years ago. And what did dave he do 108 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:17.560 there? What did he do wrong? There? Is Miller uh well, 109 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:23.480 other than other than being the ad while Sean Miller was doing well and and 110 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.480 and it's not like it's not like they're not together because they come as a 111 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:30.160 package deal. We know that. And and with all due respect, doctor 112 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:35.360 Robinson, Miller was his guy. He's I'm gonna die over him, or 113 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:40.759 I can't remember the quote over my dead body, and he'd let him go. 114 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.279 Eventually three two or three years later he had to let him go. 115 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:49.199 Yeah, So I you know, I don't know if we'll ever know exactly 116 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.639 why the decision was made, if somebody will come out and say it, 117 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:56.680 or if it'll be in some sort of I don't know if there'll be any 118 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:01.079 litigation coming out of this. Right. You know, they're gonna, I 119 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:03.800 mean, the way it was worded, right, they're gonna probably negotiate some 120 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.480 sort of a settlement of Dave's contract. Sure, I don't know when his 121 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:09.759 contract went through, but I think they all want to leave on friendly terms. 122 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:13.199 Dave doesn't want to burn bridges and leave, sure, you know, 123 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.120 because he you know, he as as h I think it was Mike Andrea 124 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:20.240 said, you know, uh, you know, Dave, he still got 125 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.920 you know, he's got he got time left to you know, keep doing 126 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.759 doing this job. And he's good at what he does, and he'll body 127 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.319 do it something somewhat differently, very likable guy. I think, I think, 128 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.519 let me say this, I don't know if it'll go. I'm gonna 129 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.480 think politics had something to be involved. It always is, yeah, whether 130 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:43.879 it's coming from the border regents who meet soon this week, or even above 131 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.960 the bard of regents where it and I don't know as a student, how 132 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:50.399 does this look? And I'll ask you too, because you're you're alone, 133 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.360 how does it look for the school? The school, not so much the 134 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.480 athletic department. I think all of this looks horrible for the school. I 135 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:00.440 mean, the two hundred and forty million dollars budget oversight, and then they're 136 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.600 putting a lot of blame off on the athletic department. When the athletic department 137 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.080 had to go through all of that with Sean Miller and COVID and now they're 138 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.720 making all these cuts. I just don't think it looks good at all. 139 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.799 I agree. I think I think the school it's going to be a tough 140 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.919 hire, you know, for you know what athletic director who's in a good 141 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.159 job is going to want to come and get in the middle of all this. 142 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.720 And maybe there are some you know, and maybe there's some athletic you 143 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:30.919 know, athletic directors sitting athletic directors who have Arizona ties who might want to 144 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.519 come back and say, Okay, I'll come back and try and fix this 145 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.799 thing. But they're also going to want some guaranteed sure and stuff like that. 146 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.919 Let me be the a D. And plus you know what, you 147 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:41.519 know, look, Robbins is on the hot seat. Let's just say it. 148 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:46.519 He is on the hot seat. The faculty union wants him fires, 149 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:52.000 He's gotten boats of no confidence from the faculty Senate. He's been here going 150 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:56.919 on seven years. It's kind of like it's a long time. Your time 151 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:01.120 is it's getting that time? How long is Robin's going to be here? 152 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.320 Well, that's what's why I said, this isn't going to be the first 153 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.440 guy. Well, you know, and I was thinking about this on the 154 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.799 way and could we see Mike and Andrea sit as the interim athletic orders sitting 155 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:16.320 in this position as the interim AD pending a new president. The realistically that's 156 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.960 the case. If I were an A D, I'd want the president to 157 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:24.399 hire me, right, rather than the new guy, because then then what 158 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:26.919 right, Because you know it is when you have a bought new boss coming, 159 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:33.200 I'm not his guy. First hand experience with that, first hand experience 160 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.240 with that. And if you remember, Dave lasted seven years and Robbins was 161 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.639 not his guy, right, It was the woman right, and we were 162 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:45.440 yeah, you know, yeah, I mean he was here not long after 163 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.679 though, because because Robbins is going on seven years yeah being here. He 164 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.320 got here in twenty seventeen. So I you know, there's so much you 165 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:58.559 know to your point, and at least it's it just looks chaotic and the 166 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:03.600 last least and the last thing people in those positions, whether you're a president 167 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:07.480 or an ad or a coach, the last thing you want is chaos. 168 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:11.559 There's a lot of adults in the room. They're really screwing this up. 169 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:16.639 They're finding ways. It looks very chaotic. And I don't really see what 170 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:22.279 David did wrong. He had a great hire with Tommy Lloyd chip Ale and 171 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.759 he's the athletic department is thriving right now. I don't really see what he's 172 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.120 done wrong to get in this position. We've talked about that a lot, 173 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.600 Jay that this looked or starting to look like the nineties with the programs were 174 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.480 really becoming elite, the U of A, this block A was coming back 175 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:46.200 visibly and otherwise respected and boom yeah and boom yeah it's uh yeah, that's 176 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.799 good. So yeah, anyways, well we'll talk to somebody a couple of 177 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:52.039 people today who might be able to give us some insights to, you know, 178 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.279 some of the stuff that goes on behind the scenes. We uh, 179 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.720 we reached out to Amberta Lopez, who you might have seen it was very 180 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:03.240 visible last week. He did a there was a presentation where you know, 181 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:09.399 he and his wife donated nine million dollars to the UH to a program at 182 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.480 the College of Business. In the aftermath of that, he was interviewed by 183 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:16.120 Channel four I'm excuse you, Chount thirteen, and he went off a little 184 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.600 bit on Jed Fish, just said that he felt betrayed and a whole number 185 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:24.279 of things. So but he also, you know, he was very visible 186 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.799 with the with with the football players at the basketball games last week, and 187 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.799 so there was kind of a thought of, you know, he seems to 188 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.840 have gotten very involved in what's going on in the athletic department right now. 189 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.279 I've known from Berta for a really long time. I've done a number of 190 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:41.480 business stories on him in Bustus on magazine. So I reached out to him 191 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:43.960 and uh, you know, he said, he said he'd come on, 192 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:48.879 He's gonna come on. He doesn't want to look behind anymore. So we 193 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:50.600 will have that. Well, we're telling everybody right now, we're not going 194 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.679 to go into the things he said about Jed Fish. That's between him and 195 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.399 Jet. He's he's you know, he said, and he said, he 196 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:03.159 said, I've said Lenny probably more than I probably should have, which is 197 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:07.960 fine. We want to talk to him about you know, you're you're you 198 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:09.960 know, you're the what we would call him, mega booster. You're obviously 199 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:15.200 involved at the highest level with a lot of money. Tell us what you 200 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.360 can tell us about how these things work. Yeah, and we'll ask him 201 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.960 about because because that just happened yesterday, you know, uh, you know, 202 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:26.080 yeah, it did just have So, you know, does this chaos 203 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:31.799 bother you somebody who's putting a lot of money into this athletic program. Right, 204 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:37.519 there's that, and then Frank Bush, Right, he's busy. You 205 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:39.600 wouldn't think this. I ran into him at the game on Saturday, hadn't 206 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.639 seen him in a while. He's busy trying to advocate for the the minor 207 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.799 sports of the Olympic sports, because what about me? Right, what about 208 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.279 me? I know the n C double A has requested his input to it. 209 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.120 I think he's spoken to a few people at the n C Double A 210 00:13:56.279 --> 00:14:01.200 level, saying, well, what about the smaller sports because those could be 211 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.320 gone right well with all that's going on and talking about paying athletes and stuff 212 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:09.960 like that. The what's that risk is not football, it's not men's basketball. 213 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:15.279 What's at risk is everything else at those two programs at each school. 214 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:16.519 And that's what he's been talking about. And we talked about that with the 215 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:22.679 with the track group and the and the swimming group too, remember yeah so 216 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:28.240 so well yeah, so we'll get Dave frank Bush's the thoughts on that stuff 217 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:31.559 as it relates to you know, nil and all the other things that are 218 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.480 going on with and except the four seventeen. That's the fourth sing so we 219 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.000 have when Berte Lope is going to come in after the break here, we'll 220 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.440 pick his brain a little bit, just on you know, from his vantage 221 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:46.159 point our things looking at the u of A and is it a good thing 222 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.320 or a bad thing or do you just let her play out and sit on 223 00:14:48.360 --> 00:15:00.799 the side for it of Berta Lope is coming right up, stick around. 224 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.000 Make the right choice for your home when it comes to windows and doors. 225 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.879 For more than twenty years, the Window Depot has provided the best price and 226 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:13.000 biggest inventory on in stock windows and doors. 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Yeah, we had a hard time reaching it. 300 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:34.119 He's got to call out. So we're looking forward to this as everybody else 301 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:38.079 is. I know, I've got a few people listening. Yep, Okay, 302 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:41.240 we'll see what's up with this and once he gives a quick call. 303 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.720 A lot of things going on. Obviously we're gonna travel again one time. 304 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:51.920 But I'm not surprised. When did you do anything last night with your programs? 305 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:57.160 An least because you're at the UA Student TV. Did you our first 306 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:00.079 Our first show is going to be on Monday. Oh okay, Monday on 307 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.160 u ATV, and then the sports show will be on Wednesday. We'll be 308 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:08.200 having daily dos going Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. Yeah, so busy for 309 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.759 you guys, right, it's good to get busy. It's exciting. No 310 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.119 better, no better experience than this in the real world. Yeah, if 311 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.279 you're you know you're involved. Being general manager running it is a lot because 312 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:22.839 I have like thirty reporters that I manage, and it's good tell them what 313 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.839 you do on the I'm the general manager of UATV three, which is the 314 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:32.519 school student run TV station entirely student run all student reporters, production teams, 315 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:37.240 sports reporters, everything like that. I always see Steve at the basketball games. 316 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:40.599 Yeah, we like to report on basketball. Yeah, I'm always there. 317 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:44.680 I'm getting old. In fact, you've talked about Saturday's game, which 318 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.079 was a strange one, by the strangest game you've seen so far. Yeah. 319 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.640 I was in the student section, not on the floor filming, so 320 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:53.759 that was fun. What the hell are you guys thinking in the student section? 321 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.759 What do you guys doing that? I mean I heard a lot of 322 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.720 people saying that they just they didn't want it, they didn't have the passion 323 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:03.640 that like, they just weren't playing well in the first half. UCLA has 324 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.119 a good defense, but I mean I didn't really see why Arizona shouldn't be 325 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:10.440 ahead the entire time. I mean, it's always going to be a good 326 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:14.720 game with U of A and U c l A, but that I wasn't 327 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:17.279 expected to be that good of a game. But you My point is, 328 00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:21.440 you guys are always getting in trouble. Thursday against USC with the booing and 329 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:23.759 the Broni, which was kind of sad every time he touched the ball. 330 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:30.559 I don't know, I honestly don't know. I mean, I just because 331 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:33.200 he's Lebron James's son, he's were playing against him. You were not involved 332 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:37.680 with that because you were I was reporting. But then the next day Saturday, 333 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:42.559 some kids giving the UCLA grief coming up the coming into the Yeah. 334 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:45.480 I don't support any of that. I mean they're just trying to do their 335 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:49.839 job, yeah best they can. You're talking about ucle players, Yeah yeah, 336 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:52.119 and trying to get in and get out safely. Yeah. Yeah, 337 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.000 it was. I was in that area. I saw everything that happened. 338 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.319 It was not not prey. I think it's okay for us to be supporting 339 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:00.880 Arizona much as we can, but we don't need to take it out on 340 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:04.480 the other team. Right. The BROWNI stuff I thought was ridiculous. Yeah, 341 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.720 I mean he's it's like that was like his fifth game back or something 342 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:11.880 from cardiac or rest. Like give him a break, right, right, 343 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:14.319 right? Right? Okay, Well, we still tried to reach out to 344 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:18.119 Umberto. Well, we'll let's talk here with with so many things going on, 345 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.039 I know you're gonna have breaking news right with for us at four o'clock 346 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:26.000 and all the things going on, a lot of stuff going on as well. 347 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:27.680 Every shot to him to see if maybe we can just go at the 348 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:30.640 next segment of three forty Okay, so we can have a full segment. 349 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.119 Okay, we could, We can do whatever if he calls now, if 350 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.839 not, we'll let's get back to the because that's obviously the big news. 351 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:38.680 Yeah. And you know, I mean a lot of the a lot of 352 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:44.240 the feedback and comments I'm getting is that Arizona just looks really bad, right, 353 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.640 no question. I mean you talked about seeing it in the Times. 354 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:51.480 It's everywhere, It's everywhere, and we got ESPN trying to figure it out, 355 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:56.880 and and the McMurphy tweet, and I'm sure the goodman stuff. Let's 356 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.720 go. He is not without his faults, right, but he's done a 357 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.599 great job as far as we know. But but there and look, and 358 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.279 I mean, I've heard over the last two or three years, you know, 359 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:11.319 different people saying, you know, he's just not doing anything for me. 360 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:15.480 Let's get somebody else, you like, Now, do you a bad 361 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:17.599 enough job to get fired? What are you gonna do? I agree, 362 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:23.160 I agree, So I don't know. But you know, there's as much 363 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.960 as we like Dave, and he's been friendly and he's a good he seems 364 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.880 like a really good guy. He was accommodating to us. Yeah, there's 365 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.079 there's some people out there who are not unhappy with the fact that there's gonna 366 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:37.319 be an a athletic director. Sure. Sure, but again it's a position 367 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.640 like the others, like the president that you said, there's a certain much 368 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:42.759 I mean, Jim Jim Love and good left. There were some people who 369 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:45.039 were ready for him to go. Sure, and he and you know, 370 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:49.119 he was, you know, as as committed and did a great job as 371 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.519 anybody else. So when I was writing a story you broke the news, 372 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.440 I got on the computer and wrote it for all sports to sound right away, 373 00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.279 I'm thinking, so what happened to the woman who created this kind of 374 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:03.039 two hundred? She's still she's still on staff, right, So how how 375 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.680 did that happen? How does that happen? Yeah, and now now you 376 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.079 got I'll say it. I think he's been scapegoated a little, not a 377 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:12.559 little, maybe a lot, man maybe quite a bit. Yeah, maybe 378 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.920 quite a bit, you know, And that that's one of the other things 379 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:21.480 that I've heard more than anything, is that that Robbins is doing this to 380 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:23.160 save his job. Look, and I'm gonna say, I like Robins. 381 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.359 Yeah, I like him a lot. We've talked to him a lot. 382 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.359 I met him when he first got here. He's done a lot of great 383 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:32.480 things for the u of A. He's been great as relates to you know, 384 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.599 connecting the u A to businesses, a lot of the economic development work 385 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.519 he's been involved in. There's a lot of new partnerships that are between business 386 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:44.039 and the community and the u of A because of him, and because he's 387 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:47.720 been so involved. He's smart. He's one of the smartest people, if 388 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:52.039 not the smartest person I've ever met. He loves sports. He was a 389 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:56.039 junior college athlete, is a quarterback. Well, and maybe that may be 390 00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:57.960 part of the problem, part of the gray area that he loves sports. 391 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:02.119 So I love all those things. But you know, over time things start 392 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.880 happening that kind of chip away and all this stuff. You know, there 393 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.960 was the murder of the of the College of Science, where people were not 394 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.720 which people are really unhappy with. Howeers on hand, they wanted him to 395 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:15.319 resign, right, they wanted him to resign. There there's the relationship he 396 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.279 has with the faculty is not very good. You know, they feel like, 397 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:21.680 you know, the faculty is not getting their due as it relates to 398 00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:26.200 salaries and benefits and just you know, the things that should come with being 399 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.160 a professor at the U of A. While you've got all these high paid 400 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.519 you know, uh staffers at the A a half a million dollar a year 401 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.240 CFO who still has her job, those kinds of things have been eating away 402 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:38.799 at that. I think a lot of this too comes from that faculty, 403 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.319 right, very vocal, right, very very opinionated in what's going on. 404 00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:47.279 For the reasons you said, what about us? Isn't that what we're here? 405 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:49.519 That's that? It is that and that are we the ones? We 406 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:55.400 the ones? You know, even the hiring of of the hiring of Kevin 407 00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:59.000 Sumlin and then of Jed Fish, those were kind of put it put it 408 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.599 uh at uh at Robin's door, at Robin's doorstep, you know something that 409 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:07.720 you know, someone was Look, nobody was unhappy when they hurt Kevin. 410 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:08.680 So we all thought he was the guy. So we will say that, 411 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:15.319 right, but you know, jet uh Robin's had a relationship with Kevin Smlin. 412 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.359 You know the whole thing of Jedfish or Brent Brennan. It turned out 413 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:23.319 that Jetfish was a good hire but people feel like like Robbie Robbins, you 414 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:29.279 know, shoved jetfish down down Dave Hekey's throat, and Dave Hecky might take 415 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.400 exception to that characterization of it. But you know, just you know, 416 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:38.640 Robins has been very very very visible on on the athletic side, and you 417 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.799 know, as they say, he may have worn out as welcome finally after 418 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.559 this amount of time, and it may just be time for him to, 419 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.599 you know, to just say, Okay, you know my time here, 420 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.400 I've done what the best I could. I've done. I think I've done 421 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:52.920 some good things. You know, It's time for me to hit the road. 422 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.119 And we wanted the next thing. Yeah right, No, he may 423 00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.960 I have no choice, Well he might not. Should not have a choice 424 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.960 with someone Sometimes it's not your decision, but you know, but it's Steve. 425 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.839 I do know that, you know, at least the locals, the 426 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.400 locals who are on the border regions. Okay, if not highly of him, 427 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:17.319 maybe not maybe in the not so recent past, but before that, 428 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:22.640 okay, not very highly of him again because of what he's done locally for 429 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.119 business in the community. Totally get that. However, however, what have 430 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:27.960 you done for me lately, exact, you're as good as your last haircut, 431 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.079 right, and the haircut doesn't look too good, right? And and 432 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.160 the border regions, you know, they have a duty of reprisibility to make 433 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:41.279 sure that these are these universities run and function sure, you know, did 434 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.960 the benefit of everybody. One of the things is, you know they came 435 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.079 up with this plan to to figure it out, right, to get to 436 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.640 recoup the money? What was the was there a plan probably timeline for this 437 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.119 to eventually become even I you know, I never looked at it. I 438 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.440 don't see what is it? You know, well, is you twenty five 439 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.759 percent more of your tickets? Yeah? Well, yeah, you know, 440 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.000 I mean yeah, I mean that's kind of what we were told. But 441 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.279 you know, according to Dave, he said, there is a you know, 442 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:08.519 we've got a plan. We've got a plan. How long would that 443 00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:11.119 I got a car? How much is it going to take to pay that 444 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.839 thing? We're talking about an eighty million dollar deficit that includes a fifty some 445 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.920 million dollar loan that's going to take a while. That's not like buying a 446 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.519 house. That's not like buy a house. I don't know, I don't 447 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.279 know what. In addition, to coming up with money to pay coaches, 448 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.319 not from the insight, but for the from the big booster strength. That's 449 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.920 why I'm hoping Bert Lopez still that gives us a call, because we'd love 450 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.039 to, Yeah, love to, you know, we we got to. 451 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:40.079 He's got to make this show this first hour of the show. You promised 452 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:45.440 that, so, but I don't you know, it's and you know, 453 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:47.599 the thing that you're hear from the media is that this is all chaos, 454 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.000 very chaos, very very and because it's chaotic, it doesn't look good. 455 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.400 And it's not because it draws away from they just it draws away from a 456 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.559 lot of things. I mean, Steve, think of how everybody felt about 457 00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:03.279 the athletic department at the end of December. Fantastic After that, fantastic things. 458 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.000 Things couldn't be a whole lot better. Sure, and the next thing, 459 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.720 you know, there goes jet fish out the window. Now, Dave, 460 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:15.559 you know, you know, yes, the the financial thing has been 461 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:21.200 hanging over everybody since for months now. So if you're jetfish, you're jet 462 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:25.279 fish. We see, guys, this is why I left. It was 463 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.240 too chaotic over it maybe no, no, no, no, no, 464 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.480 no, I'm not saying that that's where he left. I'm saying, that's 465 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:37.279 just another thing on my side. If if Jetfish tries to sell anything other 466 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.680 than I went for the money and I wanted to be in the big ten 467 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.079 and the higher profiles. I wanted to be in the big ten, and 468 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.920 I left for the money. No question in Arizona could not give me either 469 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.839 of those things. If he says anything other than that, yeah, no, 470 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:56.119 No, that's the truth, and that's the that's the just realistic thing, 471 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.319 right that he should say. Yeah, just say it, just like 472 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:03.319 those guys you know for Live Golf. I got a whole hell of a 473 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.359 lot of money on so I'm gone. See you don't try and say that 474 00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.920 you're here until I'm not. I'm here until him not exactly. I mean, 475 00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.039 that's that's nuts. To let me. We have three minutes yere before 476 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.359 we go to the next break. Okay, So I've been here thirty five 477 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.640 years, you've been here all your life. In the Tony Mason stuff, 478 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.559 How big was that? How big was that? It was a It was 479 00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.480 a big deal because partly because you know, the Star made it a big 480 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.519 deal because they wanted to close their prize because of all that that happened, 481 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:30.079 there was a feeling, you know, there's only just gotten into the Pac 482 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.960 ten. You kind of felt like, Okay, we're in the big time 483 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.519 now, and now we're getting our faces get good. Then they go on 484 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.599 probation, which was really essentially a three year probation that they were on because 485 00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.319 they couldn't go to bowl games after the eighty three and eighty four season, 486 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.079 but they couldn't be on TV for the eighty four and the eighty five seasons, 487 00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:52.680 so it stretched from eighty three to eighty five, and so it was 488 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.880 a big deal. And again, just like right now, that eighty three 489 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:01.680 team was thought to be possibly the best team in Arizona football history, and 490 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:07.599 it started out like that until until they were ranked third or fourth in Sports 491 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.799 Illustrated going into the season. You know, Ricky Hondley, Lamont Honley, 492 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.519 Randy Robbins, Tom Tunnegle, all these guys that were on on that team. 493 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:20.880 They got off to a great start and then they tied a game with 494 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.480 Cal Blew a twenty six point. They died a game with Cal, and 495 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.440 then the season went south after them. Okay, so that's when they sped 496 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.119 through that whole season they weren't going to a bowl game anyway. They could 497 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.440 have gone undefeated and they weren't going to bowl. Okay, So there's that. 498 00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:36.720 And then in my time, I'm sure there's been some incidents before that. 499 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.119 There was some swimming probations. Then lut gets in trouble. This is 500 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:43.880 late into my time with lut Uh, late two thousands whatever, he gets 501 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.319 in trouble with the nc DOUAA. Right, some things had happened. That 502 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:51.720 was a it was a blip compared to this started. It was a big 503 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.640 deal at the time. Eventually he retired for you know, for goods after 504 00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:00.440 that, and then came the Sean Miller Shawn Miller stuff. It's not equal 505 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:01.839 equal to this, but it's a big deal. It's a big thing. 506 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.359 I think. I think that Seawn Miller stuff was bigger because it lasted longer 507 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.000 five years, right, and because it was involving the basketball program. The 508 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:15.680 football program wasn't what the basketball program is. So the fact that it put 509 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.480 a it put a cloud over the basketball program for that amount of time, 510 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.759 you know, when with no resolution profile program, and you know, and 511 00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:30.039 to me, that was bigger than the probation in the in late nineties early 512 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.519 early Yeah, that was late seventies, early eighties that came and went. 513 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.319 You know, they figured it out, they got the penalties, they went 514 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.000 through the penalties, and they moved on. Yeah. Well eventually the coach 515 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.640 was going to go in basketball, and then we moved on to the football. 516 00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.839 Tony Mason got fired over all of that, you know, Yeah, 517 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:52.839 and now he turned out for Arizona. Then you had Larry Smith and then 518 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:57.039 everything changed and Larry got you know, got the football program through the probation. 519 00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.400 Okay, so we're gonna take a break. We're gonna try to reach 520 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:04.000 out again. We find him Berto, of course, and the talk the 521 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.880 next ten to fifteen minutes. Now we'll give we'll get my callin. Think 522 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:13.159 we can. We can find him. Cool kind of miss that up thunder. 523 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:19.079 All right, this is not how you do it. All right, 524 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.119 we'll be right back. We'll take our Break's here, we EDLM. Burtle 525 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:30.519 loves on the line. Stick around. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, 526 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.679 you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now, take a 527 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.880 look back at the Loudolsen era in my new book, Lessons from Lout. 528 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:39.559 It was a labor of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, 529 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:44.440 coaches and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who led them, 530 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.039 competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty 531 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.400 five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from lut is an insight to how 532 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:57.199 he built the program into a national powerhouse. Want one Email me at Steve 533 00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.920 dot RIVERA ninety five at gmail dot com. Come hi, this is formal 534 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:06.199 while get leman huntly with Arizona Health. Imagine how home GM can change your 535 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:09.159 health, your comfort, and your time. 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Now on the phone. 565 00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:22.480 We have whom Berto Lopez, UA athletics booster. How are you, 566 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:28.599 Alberto the most popular man in the city. I don't don't want to be 567 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.000 popular that way anyway, I'm here. Well, people are thank you, 568 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:34.679 People are thankful for you. Go ahead to Somberto. You know, we 569 00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.679 wanted to get you on just you know, with so much going on around 570 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:42.400 the athletic department and you know, coaching changes now an athletic director of change, 571 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.039 we wanted to get you know here from a you know, a booster 572 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.480 who's involved, you know, knows the people that are going on over there. 573 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:51.800 You donate a lot of money. You know, we we know you 574 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.159 had some stuff to say last week about jetfish. We don't want to talk 575 00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.239 about that at all. You know, you said what you said, and 576 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.119 let's move on. We're all trying to kind of look forward. So what 577 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:00.840 I wanted to do, what we wanted to talk to you about is, 578 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.880 you know, we're you know, the things that you do for the athletic 579 00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.239 department, there's a reason you do it. You know, you're you're you've 580 00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:13.760 been a successful businessman here in town. You know, you've been very generous 581 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.280 with your money. You know, the nine million dollars UH funding of the 582 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:21.880 program at the at the Ler School and those kinds of things. But you 583 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:27.599 become very visible with your athletic department over the last few weeks. What what 584 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.280 what's in Berton Lopez's mind in terms of why you're doing some of the things 585 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:35.400 that you're doing. You know, I got involved with the athletic department back 586 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.800 in nineteen eighty two when I first came to two Son and Loddols and I 587 00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.960 met Loudols and I think the first of the second day when he came to 588 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.880 town, and we became good friends. I've been supporting the athletic department for 589 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.840 a lot of years. I can't recall what year was, but Ludolfs and 590 00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.519 I were the court chairman for a fundraiser for the athletic department. The athletic 591 00:38:54.639 --> 00:39:00.880 department is very important for me, especially football, because football generates all the 592 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:06.760 revenues for all the other sports. The other sports are all supported by the 593 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:14.639 income, the the net income that the football program makes. Basketball very much 594 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.079 place it pays for itself because money, the money that the the men's basketball 595 00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:23.000 team makes is used to subsidize the women's basketball. Uh. And there's other 596 00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:28.360 there's I think a total about nineteen programs that depend on football. And if 597 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:34.639 we don't have a successful football team and uh in a full stadium, uh, 598 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.559 the other programs are going to suffer. So one of my goals is 599 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:42.800 to make sure that we keep all those other programs alive. I want the 600 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.880 next AD that comes it takes over. I like them to be able to 601 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:52.360 get those coaches. I'm sorry, you try to say something. No, 602 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.280 you're good, You're good, okay. Uh. The next AD that comes 603 00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.199 in, I like to see an AD that also helps on the on the 604 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:05.239 fundraising to make sure that because right now, the total all the programs, 605 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.760 the athletic programs are have a big definit we need to cover that DestinE and 606 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:12.639 the only way you're going to be able to do that is by continuing to 607 00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:16.679 raise more funds and I also getting the coaches on the other sports to help 608 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:22.119 out in the fundraising and don't rely on the income that the football team is 609 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.400 going to be the football department is going to be making. So that's my 610 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.559 interest. I want to make sure that all these other programs continue to exist 611 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.719 because otherwise they're going to have to be cuts in different programs that don't generate 612 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:37.920 any income at all. So that's my interest. I love the university. 613 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.639 I graduated in nineteen sixty nine. I owe a lot of a lot to 614 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:47.800 the university for my success and constable it is paid back time and I've been 615 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:51.920 doing that for a lot of years. So I'm sure you you know the 616 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.519 news of some shocking news last night. What are your thoughts on Hiky being 617 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:59.679 let go? Well, you know, I love Hickey, He's a good 618 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.360 man and I respect him. I was very very sorry to see him go. 619 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.159 Uh, but there's got to be reasons behind it. So I can't. 620 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:13.559 I don't know what why Bobby decided to make that move, but there's 621 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.719 got to be some reasons behind it. So but I, as far as 622 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.000 I'm concerned, Bob and David is a good friend, somebody that supported I 623 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.599 spoke to him at Troy thirty last night and told him if they're sitting there 624 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:28.679 and do please count on me. So he's a good man and I'm very 625 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.880 sorry to see him go. So does this again as somebody who's got, 626 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:36.280 you know, a large investment into the program at the u A. You 627 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.400 know, Steve and I were talking about how just things are so chaotic right 628 00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:42.480 now, you know, the with the with the change in the football coach, 629 00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:45.000 you know, now this with Dave Hey, You've got all this this 630 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:49.159 financial situation. It's just seems like a lot of chaos. Is that unsettling 631 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:53.400 to you? Do you worry about whether your investment is being used correctly or 632 00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.000 that things are happening the way they should be happening. I mean, we're 633 00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.559 how do you feel about all this stuff that's going on? Well, you 634 00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:06.599 know, it's very it's been very very stressful. Uh and uh, but 635 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.199 you know, I'm hopeful that we can put it together. I spoke to 636 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:15.639 Mike and Draft today when we had a few minutes to chat, and I 637 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.480 think it's going to be hitting in the right direction. So h yeah. 638 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:25.679 The financial problems probably started to got compounded with the the pandemic that we had 639 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.920 here a couple of years ago, and that created a big problem because none 640 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.639 of these departments were bringing any money. It's uh, there was a drain 641 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.440 of a lot of money. And there's a lot of a lot of money 642 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:43.039 that is owned to the university right now and I don't know how it can 643 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:47.480 be paid back. Hopefully with the keeping the players that we did keep, 644 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.880 with a new coach that came in, we're going to have fill up the 645 00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:57.159 stadium, generate more income, be able to support all the other all the 646 00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:01.480 other sports, and hopefully one point be able to pay back the money. 647 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:07.880 So we're advanced by the university to the athletic department, and Bobby Robbins did 648 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.360 what he had to do in making the advances because otherwise there would have to 649 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.639 bring a lot of cuts and a lot of probably every department would have put 650 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.320 him to have been cut. And so he made a decision that he wanted 651 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.519 to keep all the sports in place, and so I am here to help 652 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.599 in whatever way I can. Then you know what I'm not only do I 653 00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.119 give my own money, but I help wherever I can to tell my friends 654 00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:37.559 to step up and contribute. And we've done very well this past year with 655 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:43.880 the nil and other functions that we've been trying to support. I don't I 656 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.000 can't guess the second guest Bobby's decision. I'll be getting together with him. 657 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.800 I did speak to him, but we didn't have the time to get into 658 00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.639 all the details as to what happened there. So that's it. And I 659 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.239 virtual you have a lot of friends, we all know that, and you 660 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.519 have a lot of people with money. So how have you tried to convince 661 00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.400 him to help dig into the pockets to help the kids earn some nil? 662 00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:12.599 Well, you know some of the fact. I had lunch when I came 663 00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.440 back from Phoenix. First thing I did is I sat down with Team MECU. 664 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.599 He signed the contract and he did the right thing. Guy say, 665 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:22.159 if you would have moved, he would have been starting all over again. 666 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.239 And I say, your value, your value could have gone down staying here 667 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.320 at the university. You're going to be playing one more year. You want 668 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.079 to make sure that you have a winning season, uh and not starting a 669 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.000 new program where you wouldn't have to teammates that you've been playing with for three 670 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.239 for the last couple of years. So he made the right decision. He 671 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.440 didn't he got a lot less money and il money that he's been offered. 672 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.559 But as I told him, you know, you got to look at this 673 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:51.679 as the long run. You could have gotten a lot of money today, 674 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.039 but you got to look at the long run because you have a potential of 675 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:59.400 making a lot of money if you make the right decision. And he did, 676 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.719 and I'm very happy with him, and Noah and Manu also, so 677 00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:07.960 they all make the right choice and we got the right coach. I like 678 00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:10.639 the coach. I think this coach is going to be here for us as 679 00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:15.199 long as I'm going to say, as long as we're winning. Because you 680 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:20.320 started losing that you've got a problem. But I think, uh, coach 681 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.920 Brennant is here to stay. His wife graduated from the University chose A pi 682 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:30.840 Fi. His brother graduated from the u A also he played football. Uh, 683 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.599 So the the coach Brennant also, as you know, he was an 684 00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:38.199 assistant coach Undertomy, so he beleeves Arizona. So he's going to be here 685 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:45.679 for as long as we want him. So, and I'm very very hopeful 686 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:50.719 that he'll have a winning season this coming this coming year, hopefully we can 687 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.760 be a contender for the Big Twelve and if things went well, perhaps even 688 00:45:55.280 --> 00:46:00.199 good to the national national playoffs. So so let me ask you Bert, 689 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:05.400 because you mentioned a second no that you know you got that McMillan signed a 690 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.000 contract here the other players as well. Can you give us the nuts and 691 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:14.199 bolts of how that works? Who are these players signing contracts with? Did? 692 00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.440 Are is it through the collective and then money's being or do you have 693 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.400 some sort of providing you through the collective and then and see in me? 694 00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:27.360 Instead of going through a collective, I had an agreement with with tam mac 695 00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.119 that I would take care of him. Uh for him to say, but 696 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:37.159 nowhere close what he was offered before. Uh, So I instead of going 697 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.599 through collective, I decided to do it myself directly. That way. Also, 698 00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.599 we didn't have to pay the fees, so we need to pay the 699 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.719 collective one hundred percent to the money. Uh it was given to them, 700 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:50.599 right, So you sign you sign a contract and they have to provide some 701 00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:57.440 servers or something like that, exactly, exactly exactly, so he's uh, 702 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:04.239 he'll be providing services for the contract or the amount of money that I agree 703 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.960 to pay him. It's a good catch, it's a good uh. Uh. 704 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:12.880 You know, I'm very impressed with all three of them. They're they're 705 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:17.840 good human beings, great uh, great athletes, and great people. I 706 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.119 uh, you know, I can't say enough about them, right, so 707 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.000 Berta, You've been behind the scenes a lot, You've been involved for a 708 00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.440 long time. We all know that we've known you for a long time. 709 00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.960 Jay and I behind the scenes helping University of Arizona. Your name has never 710 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:37.000 really come up. But now in the last few days you're everywhere. Are 711 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:43.199 you comfortable with that? And do you think that booming there? It was 712 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.639 very stressful for me, very very stressful. And I never stress. I've 713 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:52.400 got a business that pretty pretty good, sizable business and doesn't stress me. 714 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.440 This stressed me to know end right. Uh. Yeah, it was the 715 00:47:55.559 --> 00:48:00.800 news that broke out yesterday. But you know that campounds that I've been feeling 716 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.079 in That's reason we need to move forward. And I got to put this 717 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.679 behind and look for the best. But you know what, there's needs. 718 00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.679 There needs to be more people like you if this place is going to survive. 719 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:17.960 Well there are there are. You know, I became public because of 720 00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.920 my efforts of what I said, Yeah, you were trying to keep the 721 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.440 players, but there's a lot of people that are they contributors help out the 722 00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:31.079 program, but they're not known to the public. I happen to be well, 723 00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:35.559 you know the fact that I'm involved everywhere, I think it's a little 724 00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.880 more public. The Center of Opportunities, which is funded by the AGS Love 725 00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:43.639 the Seminally Foundation, which is one hundred percent funded by my family. There's 726 00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:49.440 no outside money that comes into the foundation. The UH, the recent naming 727 00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.440 of the HSOP busin School of Analytics UH and everything that. You know. 728 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:58.320 Every every quarter the h S flop the center of the Foundation. We give 729 00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:02.320 several hundred thousand also grants every month, so you know the name is out 730 00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:07.400 there. The HSL Stuffed the Bus event where we had a go and collecting 731 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:12.840 forty thousand pounds, we ended up with sixty one thousand pounds and probably the 732 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.719 reason for that was because we were able to get a couple of the players 733 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:21.559 from the basketball team, including Tommy Lloyd, and then of course we had 734 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:27.199 t Mac and Noah who were signing pictures for a couple of hours and that 735 00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:30.519 was pretty exciting. So people when they heard that were here, they started 736 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:36.159 coming in and bringing food and dropping checks off and we ended up with sixty 737 00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:40.159 months sixty one thousand pounds of So the name is very it's everywhere. We 738 00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:46.800 had the HSL Festival this week, which we've been funding for the last ten 739 00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:52.280 years and agree to continue for another five years. And you know, the 740 00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:54.920 HSL name is all over the place, so I guess that become very prominent. 741 00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:02.880 And that's it's my initials well as somebody who's who who you know was 742 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:06.280 born here and grew up here. I I you can tell you how much 743 00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.159 I know this community appreciate the stuff that you do and that you continue to 744 00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.519 do, and you know, and Beta, we could talk about this for 745 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.800 hours with with the stuff that goes on, but we do appreciate the time 746 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.159 you gave us today. And look, I'm just going to say as a 747 00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.280 as a fan, we appreciate what you're doing. Just keep doing it and 748 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.039 bring all your friends well. Thank you, Thank you very much. I 749 00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:31.159 appreciate it. I appreciate your supportant and understanding what I went through and what 750 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:36.559 I did was for the best interest of the program. All right, bertill 751 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.840 thanks a bunch. I appreciate you well, thank you so much, and 752 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:43.239 have a good day you too. Thank you. Bertell Lopus. Let's let's 753 00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.000 go back this listen. He requested that we know he don't be spoken enough 754 00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.079 about about Jet. He don't want to go there again. He so he 755 00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.960 agreed to kind of come on the show and talk about that. There's so 756 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.000 much more that I want to ask him about Sure being a booster, right, 757 00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:59.199 you know, the question I wanted to ask and then he you know, 758 00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.519 we got into some stuff was how much more are you being asked for 759 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:06.079 Sure compared to what you were already doing? And where's that money coming from? 760 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:07.440 And is everybody else doing that? That's a question, you know, 761 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:09.800 we need to you know, we need to get asked. May mean Frank 762 00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:13.519 Bush has an answer, Well, he's you know, he knows the people. 763 00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.800 Yeah, okay, So but I thought that was very interesting and again, 764 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:20.440 well you don't if you don't know Bert Lopez, it's because you don't 765 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.519 know that you know him everywhere. Well, the interesting thing to me, 766 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:27.880 and part of that was the contract he's getting into with A Yeah, I 767 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.800 mean he's got a direct contract with t MAC and you know, I don't 768 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.239 know if it's with the other guys as well. Again, another question I 769 00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.000 wanted to I wanted to get in but you know, who's got contracts with 770 00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:38.800 the other guys or how you know, how are the other guys getting funded 771 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:43.239 as well? Okay, well, interested a lot of good stuff, but 772 00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:45.840 all right, we got a lot more to cover. I know, I 773 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:50.679 appreciated him still doing that stuff, and atleast it's gonna take a shot at 774 00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:52.400 some breaking news here at the top of the hour. There's lots of stuff 775 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.400 breaking, so stick around to that, and then we'll talk some more about 776 00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:00.199 the Dave Dave Hekey stuff, but also Frank Bush coming up at about three. 777 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.119 Stick around. Don't believe it is well. Don't believe it is well.