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You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio
Network and now it's time for the Paranormal

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Peep Show. Hi, welcome to
the Paranormal Peep Show with myself Neil Ward

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and well and he isn't here tonight, but no worries. We have a

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guest anyway, and he joins us
all the way for I'd like to say

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he joins us all away from Mexico, but it's actually Emire Endsty so that

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was a curveball thrown to me.
Welcome Gary Robinson. How are you Gary?

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Hey? Doing pretty good mate?
Thanks for having me on. Good

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to be here, Thanks, thank
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know Ben one of our regular guests, Ben Emlyn Jones, and you and

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d to watch Ben's YouTube out but
and then he started to watch some of

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our stuff as well, didn't you. That's how you came to find us

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looking out? Yeah, I mean
I pretty much found you guys through the

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comments on Ben's videos and yeah,
and then became a fan of the whole

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Paranormal UK Radio Network on YouTube.
But for me, the standout show was

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always Paranormal Peak Show because yeah,
well, I mean there's some great topics,

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you know. I love like to
be able to lead comments and discussions

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and whatnot, and I've always got
a lot to add and same with Ben's

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channel as well. It's kind of
a good forum for WOO subjects. Yeah.

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Absolutely, it does make it interesting. I mean Ben's videos are interesting,

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but I find the comments just as
interesting actually being clown Yeah, yeah,

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some of the better than material lots
of love and hay at the same

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time. Yeah, yeah, interesting
concoction. Sometimes it's dangerous territory, Yeah

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exactly. So you'll now residing for
the moment at least in Hemil Hempstead in

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Hartfordshire. And I know that stomping
ground because I grew up in buckenham Shire

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and I lived for a while in
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I mentioned to you before we start
recording, spent a good twenty five years

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in Hemil Hempstead and in the very
area that you are over ironic Lingham,

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in Grove Hill, in Grove Hill
and Hemilheads, which is where you grew

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up. The toughest place in Hempstea. Yeah. So yes, that's the

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good education, street cred and stuff. Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

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Yeah, the worst school's toughest,
choughest chefs. Yeah, it makes Grange

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Hill look like Mary Poppins or something. Maybe. Yeah. I remember about

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fifteen years ago, I came home
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bus stops someone had left the huge
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something. It was on fire and
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On the front they'd spray painted welcome
to grow Hill. It was like

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a scene from the TV show Shameless. It's great. That just sums up

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Growth Hill. Wow. And I've
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Grove Hill when I've been returning from
Luton Airport and I've had to catch all

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the bus all the way from the
bottom of the town and catch all the

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buses all the way to the very
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Hell. Yeah, that's right,
and then then to go and hopefully receive

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my car that's still there. You
never know around here, you never know,

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you never know. So you're bore
a musician as well, though,

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which is another thing I got in
common with you playing music. Yeah,

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exactly. Well. In another lifetime, I was actually a web developer and

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I had a good career as a
web developer since back in the days when

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nobody knew what the internet was,
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QUA, which was like one of
the leading agencies back back then. But

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since I moved to Mexico about fifteen
years ago, I had to take music

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production, which would essent you something
I did in the unions, and I

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had to turn it into a job. And I'd already had some music on

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TV through a number of production libraries. I think my first TV shows in

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EastEnders, I had a drum and
bass track in a club scene, and

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so I pretty much took my catalog
to a number of production libraries and licensing

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companies and got sell for business,
so to seen. Years later, I've

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got i think roughly two hundred credits
on like Hollywood film and TV, and

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countless more placements on you know,
like European regional nudes, sort of lifestyle

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programs, lots of reality shows.
I'm trying to think the most recent films

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I've done, And when I say
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I'm the guy that gets picked up
if they need like a specific song for

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a scene that isn't covered by the
composer. So like in the movie Venom

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to the Marvel movie that's like a
club scene. So I was actually watching

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that last night. Fun enough,
okay, okay, Nick. Yeah.

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They say that's another strange coincidence,
isn't it. Yeah. Yeah, you

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would tell them earlier that you met
on someone called Gary from Mexico, but

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it wasn't me. Yeah. Yeah, I was listening to another podcast,

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David yas right, who does are
one of the other shows in a paranomut

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radio network. He's he was talking
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he used to live in Mexico,
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I was going to interview you with
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Yeah, what was I saying?
Movies? Yeah, I'll just vent a

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few so that people know Venom too. I recently did Playmobil, the movie

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that was Daniel Radcliffe, and I
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I've done Time Freak, which was
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girls from Game of Thrones. One
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which was made by the people who
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and I did the opening scene and
they wanted a dubstep because dubstep was big

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at the time, and what I
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at half speed and they used it
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That was great. And I've done
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years as well, plenty of stuff
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mentioned to you about the CW,
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Fosters, Batwomen, stuff like that, Kardashians selling Sunset, or the big

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reality shows. Once you get a
good agent, you know you've so is

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that I mean so as They used
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people would then trawl through the internet
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and they say, oh, I
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and then you'd get a royalty or
something. But now you've got an agent

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that actually puts your work out to
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got various agents who some of them
run their own libraries and work with other

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production companies. Set's quite a complicated
set because some of the companies work in

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very different ways. Some of them
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they'll add like a product that you
make and people will find it by trawling

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through. And then there are other
companies where they represent you more as if

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it's a record label and they'll say, Wow, we've got this artist who's

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hot, and you know you think
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blah blah blah, and they'll promote
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record that they were releasing. So
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over the last two years, Neil, I have to say that the music

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licensing industry has been affected by none
other than the woke virus. So that's

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something can or can't get into because
I know Andy loves his and he won't

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takedowns. Oh yeah, yeah cool. So if you've got to do politically

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great music, now yeah. Well, there's a few things that have been

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happening. One is that you've probably
seen that Hollywood films and TV shows and

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streaming platforms just aren't making the money
that they used to be because the woke

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content that preaches to the audience or
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the money. So I've noticed that
companies that give me a list of shows

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and films that I'm pitched towards those
pitch lists of you know, they're not

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even a quarter of what they used
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shows and films in production, and
that is simply because the money isn't there.

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But what's scary and I've not got
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of companies whom I wasn't excuse me
who I was an in a circle composer

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as in one of the main composers, they began to prioritize, shall we

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say, people of color who were
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my complexion, for no reason whatsoever, you now go to the bottom of

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the pile. So it's like a
reverse racism situation amongst the team of people

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who were already friends. And it's
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making these bizarre decisions that they think
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suffers at the bottom. Mmmm.
I don't know what Andy would have to

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say about that. Yeah, be
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about I was watching you know,
you talk about streaming, Zosi isn't And

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we've been watching the third series of
The witchert And I'm not really a fan

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of the witchert but watching it and
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it with a Witcher. That's a
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new episode, I think it was
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series, so I don't really know
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it, and okay, I'm trying
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not to talk through it. She
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you just talk your way through it. And it really annoys me to

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keep your trap shut. Watch the
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and we're both and I'm sitting there
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had to open her mouth as well
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we saw this lady who was a
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You know, she was making our
swords for the Witcher. But she had

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a beard and that's that's bizarre.
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I said, that's a lady with
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it. Yeah, And she let
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because it had to be said.
What I've got to say that I

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don't sorry and you're gone. Yeah, I was going to say I said

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it to Bed and Ben was going, what, what would be a beard?

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I said, yeah, yeah,
I really think I've got to go

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back and photograph it or something to
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You weren't need some photograph for me. I completely believe you, and

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I'm not even shocked by it.
I don't know if you saw recent stories

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about Disneyland in Los Angeles, but
they had they had a bearded guy dressed

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up in a little Cinderella costume and
out candies to kids, huck and now

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disney Land's empty. Oh my gosh. As for The Witcher, I've been

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I've not watched it, but I've
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to it because it's also been affected
by Woke, the CW channel that I

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told you about that I used to
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shows. They're heading to bankruptcy and
one of the show runners, which is

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like a producer slash writer in charge
of the show, was brought into The

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Witcher after she screwed up CW.
And what I read was that Henry Cavill's

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leaving the show because they're making him
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making some of the female characters the
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And I've just seen a picture of
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the guy that places though brother as
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the full costume to replace Henry Cavell. And so apparently in the next season

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moving forward, Henry Cavill's out and
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But it's a you know, a
side side rob and right, oh

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my god, oh my gosh,
because those women they don't need no man

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apparently, well that's a yeah,
you know, it's a turning into a

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right carry on bloody hell. Yeah, it's It kind of reminds me slowly

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we're going back to the eighties when
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Nothing that it wasn't woke or anything
like that. It's just the fact that

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halfway through the series or one of
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two, I can't remember how many
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who was dark haired and I forget
what his name was. He went on

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to do Dallas or something like Michael
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him with Sean Connor's son. That's
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they did it in an interesting way
though, didn't they. It was almost

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like a Doctor the Who thing.
Yeah. I never fully understood what we're

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going on there, though, I
can tell you what they did. They

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come up with a formula where her
and the Hunter possesses the man that wears

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the deer enters the shame and once
one hooded man has been killed, her

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and the hunters spirit tells him to
choose another person. So the reason they

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did that was they figured that every
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could just pick another one, very
doctor who like and really, isn't it

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yea, yeah, well it worked
with Doctor Who's I guess everyone's kind of

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like taking that same our concept and
thinking, okay, we'll actually, you

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know, we can do without that
expensive actor and get another one cheaper and

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you know, keep the Dolce the
dice rolling. Yeah, see you later.

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Yeah. Yeah. So going from
the music, then you obviously went

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from Hemia hemps did all the way
to Mexico fifteen years ago I set So

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you know, how did you end
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on holiday with some friends to Los
Angeles, actually was twenty years ago now,

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and one of my friends suggested we
go to Las Vegas and one night

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in one of the casinos I ended
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out that she was from a small
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you know, jetting back and forward
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got married. Lived in the UK
for a while, but she she didn't

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cope well with the climate at Emil
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we ended up moving back to the
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it's a town on the border Texas
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a strange town because it looks like
the old World West. And Tarantino used

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to go there to film scenes from
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Excuse me. And I don't know
if you've ever seen the film El Mariachi

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Robert Rodriguez. It's famous Mexican films, quite a cult movie, and there

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were three sequels as well, and
Antonio Bendera's Danny Tree and they just turned

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up and filmed them in the main
high street in a Kunya, which is

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bizarre, but I mean it looks
great. I mean, you could film

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music videos there or anything, just
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But another interesting thing about Kunja is
that out in the desert, about ten

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minutes out of the city, there's
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and in the nineteen sixties it was
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So if you've ever seen the film
American Graffiti, you know George Lucas's

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first Yeah, Harrison full was it, wasn't he? Yeah, that's right,

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Yeah, he was in that.
He took that job to keep his

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acting insurance so he could pay for
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was featured in American Graffiti because his
broadcast were going out to Vietnam spirits of

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the troops, but no one knew
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he was in a kunya in the
desert, hiding because he had a legal

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radio equipment that was that was too
powerful. Yeah, reached in all the

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way to Asia because he was in
Mexico. Even if anyone found him,

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they couldn't stop him in Mexico.
Now he cares, you know, right.

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Interesting interesting bitline Radio Caroline kind of
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only if you see the size of
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a small town. And it's just
like Psypjohn this and comm out in the

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desert. There's no one that he
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So so, so when you moved
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you acclimatize to it? Did you
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or was it a problem for you? Well, after a week or so

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of throwing up and adjusting to the
foreign bacteria, which is hard, we

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built our own place and just got
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two of which are grown up now, and two daughters who are who

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are young. But my sons were
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you know what it's like when you
have kids. You just get in the

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rhythm of things and you get on
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I found that I just did pretty
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but on the border a lot of
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completely different life, and it is
the wild West, and it's it's quite

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tough. It's people often say,
oh, you live in Mexico, must

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be great living in Mexico City.
I say, no, I don't live

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there. I live in one of
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not city, which is very,
very different my style. MM.

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So you're not picked up any Spanish
like the basics or anything. Yeah,

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a little bit, but not too
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I find that if you spend all
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sitting on a computer, you ver
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interesting actually because when I lived in
the Orkney Islands and you meet people that

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go out and spend all their day's
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those I don't know where the Orkney
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islands off the north coast of Scotland, and it's when you're looking at your

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atlas, you have to find it
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so because they haven't got room to
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of thing. But yeah, the
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coast of northern Scotland, and then
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plus miles further further north than that. But but I lived there for about

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five years. My daughter still lives
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an English accent if she still sounds
very richer, and that she moved there

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when she was like nine, right, they had their own accent. We're

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in Orkney. Yeah, even people
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And the thing is, as you
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all your time indoors, out of
the sun on your computer. You don't

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therefore pick up Spanish much. But
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men because they're out official time,
they don't come in Land much and blend

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with the visitors like the tourists,
and they don't talk to them much,

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so that when you do talk to
them, it is so much harder to

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understand them, Whereas the locals there
will adapt their their accents to make it

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easy for you to understand them,
because obviously they're trying to tell you stuff,

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you know, in their little gift
shops and things, so they'll make

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it easy to understand them. But
the Aucadium then now it's just because they're

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doing that job and they don't it
doesn't even click for them that they've got

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to adjust their accent. I remember
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in Orkney, and because it was
a stormy day, these two Orcadian fishermen

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decided that they weren't going to go
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they'd help this guy move as well. So it's the first time I've met

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them, and we're all getting stuff
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and dismount them and put them onto
the truck or something, and this all

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Canadian man said, what about the
madrass on the we're looking each other madrass?

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Madrass? What when we go madrass? What curry? No, No,

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the madrass for the beds, I
mean all matris, matris, that's

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what you was saying. It's like
a different rhythm of yeah, yeah,

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yeah, money madras madras. Yeah. But again, that's an example of

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people that just don't mix with other
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and it's so hard to understand.
So you mentioned earlier about ghostly experiences.

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Obviously, because we're a paranormal peach
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That I was going to say,
we better get onto the woo subjects woo

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stuff. Yeah, we've had the
woke. Now, let's do the woo.

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Yeah, so you mentioned there's some
before you moved to Mexico, you

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mentioned that ghosts the activities in he
went and I remember talking to you online

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and that's how because you you obviously
connected me to Hamil Hempstead because I happened

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to mention in one of our shows
that my brother, who lived in Growth

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Hill, we were filling up some
petrol because he was taking me to loot

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An Airport and we yeah, and
this is he said in that place up

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there, he pointed, is some
friends of his had polter geist activity and

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he got so bad. Things were
flying around in their house, in their

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flat, they had to come outside
and to sit in the car and look

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back up are flying about. So
they were sitting outside and they could still

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see everything through the Yeah yeah apparently. So, yeah, they could see

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stuff moving or whatever it was,
you know, and they had to sit

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out there maybe for an hour until
it settled down. But yeah, it's

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lovely be so freaky. Yeah.
Yeah, So that's how you found out

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my kind of Hemil connection, that's
right. Yeah, yeah, Yes,

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a couple of years ago we were
talking. Yeah, yeah, wasn't it.

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Yeah, haunted Hemil. So,
so what's your ghost stories of Hemel?

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Well, I have a I have
a ghost story late into the house

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that I'm in right now, which
is my parents' house, which is a

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pretty new build. I guess it
was built in the early eighties. But

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when I was here as a kid, I think I was off school sick

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one day and I was probably only
about thirteen, and it was completely quiet.

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I think it was a summer's day, and this has never left me.

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I could suddenly hear somebody moving around
the house upstairs where I am right

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now, at thirty five years later, and I thought, Jesus will no

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one's due to beat home, and
so I get up the courage and I

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creep out the bedroom onto the landing
and I can hear somebody moving around.

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It's not a bird or a window
or the neighbors or anything like that.

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The house is detached and at this
point, I don't know what they call

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it, when you fear is up
and like fight or flight. Basically,

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Adam checking every room very slowly,
and as I'm looking around the corner,

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I'm thinking I'm going to see someone, because I can still hear the movement.

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I'm not quite sure it's coming from
absolutely nothing. I checked the hole

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of the upstairs and terrified nothing whatsoever. So I'm thirteen years old. I

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call my grand grandfather was still alives
and listen, I reckon someone in the

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house, Please come and get me. So he has a look around the

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house and we couldn't find anyone.
And I'm convinced that I heard someone.

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So that was the end of it
until last year my brother calls me up.

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When my brother still lives here in
this house even though he's he's like

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in his mid thirties now, Addie
says to me, we've been having some

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weird experiences at the house. He
said, well, firstly, when we're

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in bed at night, we can
hear somebody walking up the stairs, but

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they never get there, and it
goes on and on and just never stops,

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to the point where my sister,
who had been living here in between

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marriages, would also wake up and
say, you know what the head is

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this noise? They thought maybe someone
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and my parents are being driven mad
by it. They said it had

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a strange acoustic to it as well, like you couldn't place it. If

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that makes sense like about the experiences, you can ever quite beat your finger

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on them. And so one night
they're hearing the sound again, but they

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doze off because they're used to it, and they're woken up by banging and

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crashing downstairs and someone moving about.
So they all go downstairs and my parents

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terrified. They're looking behind curtains,
inside cupboards. There's nobody there. They

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don't know what to do. They
searched everywhere behind the sofa because they think

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someone's got in and they're hiding,
which does happen, you know, people

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break in and they hide. Yeah, so they have to go back to

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bed. A couple of weeks later, the same thing happens. Everyone's terror

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fired. They run downstairs and my
dad's cell phone starts ringing and said,

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they're like, well, the house
ringing us. At this time, they

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pick up my dad's cell phone and
it's the house number ringing the cell phone.

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How weird. They're standing right up
front of the house phone. They

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answered the call. There's like a
weird white noise on the phone. And

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they said after that night they never
heard anything again. That was it.

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How strange? Yeah, very strange. That's almost sounds like a kind of

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paranormal poltergeistee type of thing. You
know, the fact is making cell phones

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work and they're creeping up of the
stairs. I mean, maybe it moves

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on the other place in the amble, you know, and spook something else

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out, you know. I mean
the ghost can go through walls, why

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not? I said, if we
know what ghosts are, that's right.

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Yeah, I'm I've decided on that
subject at the moment. But I did

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stay and I'll haunted house in Mexico
once in Monterey. Monterrey is a city

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that's a bit like a Mexican version
of Los Angeles, but it's also in

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the mountains. I'm strangely enough,
I think Predator the Jungle scenes were filmed

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in the jungle just outside of the
city in Monterray. But yeah, just

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before I was married, my wife
was living in a house with two other

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girls in Monteriy. One of them
her parents owned the house, and they

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said, some places it's modern,
but it's haunted. We see a guy

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at the end of the bed at
night. We will have to stay in

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the same room because we're terrified.
And they had a huge on the staircase.

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They had a huge crucifix with the
Christ on the crucifix, typical Mexican

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sort of rendering in full color with
the blood Serri Gore and that was terrifying.

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And I actually had my first UFO
experience in that house. So what

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actually happened was one weekend, the
two girls, the two housemates were away

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and it was just me and my
wife to wife to bed that time,

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and we're we're in the bedroom looking
out over the mountains. I think we

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were just watching a film and relapse
off at the time, because we didn't

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even have a TV. And you
can just about see the silhouette at the

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mountains in Monterey, and and I
sat up because I saw something like that

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in the sky on what on earth? What's that? And then we saw

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some more like little white dots zipping
off into the sky, and you know

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the classic UFO the people talk about
where you see the little white UFO and

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it's zipping all over the place at
right angles and it's moving ultra fast.

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We're actually watching those over the mountains
and Monterey. So we get closer to

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the window to have a look because
I want to make sure you know,

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it's not fireflies or it's not I
don't know, lights on a tower of

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some kind, And we watched these
things for quite some time. And I

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know they used to talk about that
phenomena in the TV show Ancient Aliens,

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and they used to describe it in
a certain way because those little bits of

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light fire off in different directions,
but they don't go out. They stay

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floating slowly and then they suddenly zip
off and then in another direction. And

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that was that was There's no doubt
in my mind that that was something.

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Did anyone else did you get,
like, I mean, was there any

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other witnesses, Were anything reported the
local TV or the local press. Maybe

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that other people's been not that I
know of, Maybe they see those things

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there a lot. I don't know. Yeah, I didn't believe what I

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was seeing. And we both watched
it together and as they say, I

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know what I saw. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, but that's not the

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weirdest thing I've seen in Mexico.
That I'll get to some weird things,

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but that same house. Back to
the subjects of haunted House. Yeah,

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yeah, we were well aware of
the things that have been going on,

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and I was kind of freaked out
staying there. And we went out for

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a meal one night and came back
and we've not long been set down to

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sleep and we heard some moving about
and I could see shadows under the door

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that were not actually coming to the
door, so it wasn't actually somebody standing

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outside the door, So I mean
it was it was movement, and we

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thought, bloody hell. And Isabel, that's my wife, she was saying,

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let's just be quiet. No,
maybe it will go away because there's

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no one in the house because we
would have heard the alarm system being deactivated,

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we would have heard everyone coming in, so we can see this movement

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like flutters of light and shadow.
And it was only a few minutes.

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As we're just watching it froze,
hoping it will stopped. There's someone's knocking

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at the door, the bedroom door. And it's not until you've experienced these

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things that you think, bloody hell, M, what on earth could that

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be. You can even feel the
door shaking as someone's knocking on it,

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but there's no feet at the bottom
of the door, and the gap under

406
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:27,039
the door was quiet. You know, it's a few inches a bad Mexican

407
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:33,440
build, you know. Hm.
So yeah, we literally just hid under

408
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,559
the covers and went to sleep.
And that was that. I don't want

409
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,279
to know. I really don't want
to know. Crikey, cry Well,

410
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:47,160
it's kind of the Jesus thing on
their protection, I suppose, yeah,

411
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,559
exactly, yeah now, but the
other girls sorry, actually they've seen it

412
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,200
as well. Yeah. They said
that a guy would appear at the end

413
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,160
of the beds and if they if
they all moved to the other bedroom,

414
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:05,799
the guy would sometimes appear in that
bedroom just starting staring, so they would

415
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,200
actually run. They said that they
would actually get up, screaming and run

416
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,119
past him. And it would happen
if let's say these girls were went out

417
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:16,480
clubbing and they brought some other friends
back to stay over, like a whole

418
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,079
group of them would see this guy, and they would actually run past them,

419
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:22,319
screaming and you know, go into
the other bedroom, and then some

420
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:28,559
knights would reappear. Wow. But
did he kind of climb it interact with

421
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:32,759
them in any way or was it
just like an almost gormless staring specter.

422
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:38,240
I wondered about that, but they
said it was just a gormless, motionless

423
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:45,319
specter if you stayed nice standing and
staring at them. But I also heard

424
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:50,039
that one of them saw the guy
when she was on holiday somewhere else hundreds

425
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:53,680
of miles away. Interesting, and
he appeared in the hotel room. Nothing

426
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:58,480
hell, So that is weird.
So was it Ian knocking at door?

427
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,880
I don't know. Yeah, that
reminds me of this guy that I used

428
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:07,319
to be in a psychic developing circle
in the late eighties. And this guy

429
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:13,000
called Brian. I think at the
time. He's obviously retired now I know

430
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:16,559
he don't see these people out again, but I think he worked for British

431
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:21,079
Gas at the time. But he
was in this psychic developing circle and we'd

432
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,839
all had a summer break type of
thing. We're all getting back in back

433
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,680
in the suite of things like by
September, starting the circle up again to

434
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,519
try and develop the past psychic abilities. And this guy and Brian said,

435
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:36,160
oh, yeah, I've just got
back from two weeks in Italy or somewhere

436
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,160
like that, Mediterranean somewhere, and
I just had a really weird experience.

437
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,480
And we said, well, what's
up. Then he said, well,

438
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,720
I had a phone call from the
hotel when I got back asking if I

439
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,960
was Brian such and such say,
Brian Smith, I can't remember what its

440
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,039
earning was, yeah, and he'd
say yeah, yeah, And they said

441
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:58,319
well, we're just kind of check
in, because apparently this Brian said that

442
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,359
when he was in his hotel and
he was like on the you know,

443
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:04,319
so many floors, you know,
looking out over the pool sort of thing,

444
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,440
he said he woke up in the
middle of the night and he said

445
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,280
he saw this guy in a tuxedo
walk past him in the living room of

446
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,719
the of the room that he's got
in the living room section, because he

447
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,880
could see him through the bedroom I
supposed with the door, walked passed him

448
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:23,719
and then full over the balcony.
And so when he checked out of the

449
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,920
hotel, you know, to say, he said, has anyone ever died

450
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,599
in that room? And they said
no, no, nothing like that.

451
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,639
He said, oh okay, And
he didn't say what he'd see, but

452
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,199
he just thought us a bit weird
what I've seen that women. And so

453
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,199
when he got back to the UK, they'd run him like, you know,

454
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,920
five days later or something. He
said, we're just checking because we

455
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:47,119
got some luggage to send back to
the UK. But there was a man

456
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,519
that went into your hotel room after
you, who happened to have the same

457
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:58,239
name, Brian Smith, and he
fell to his death wearing a tuxedo from

458
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,760
from the room that you were in, and that is bizarre. And they

459
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,719
were ringing up to say, you
know, we want to make sure we're

460
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,639
sending the luggage back to the right
Brian Smith, and that's how he found

461
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:12,400
out the story. Yeah, so
sadly, how does anyone explain something like

462
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:16,079
yeah, yeah, yeah, the
skeptics out there, any steptis watching,

463
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:22,000
please please explain that. Yeah,
literally, say well, it was a

464
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,559
coincidence. There was another guy called
Brian, and of all the countries and

465
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:29,960
all the hotels in the world,
he looked into that one and was depressed.

466
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:34,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
so many billions of people in the

467
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,039
world. It's got to happen at
some point somewhere that that's probably what they'd

468
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:43,760
say. But even even so,
it's still they would say that it won't.

469
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,920
It might explain the coincidence, but
it doesn't explain the fact that he'd

470
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,960
seen this specter going past him.
He said, yeah, a bit you

471
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:58,960
see before. So how multifaceted the
whole phenomena, that's what you want to

472
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,400
call it is? Because I know
that if you listen to Paul Sinclair from

473
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,159
Truth Proof, oh yeah, yes, he's at the point rees. He

474
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:14,679
believes that everything Woo related is probably
one phenomena manifesting itself differently. But then,

475
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,039
how does that explain things that could
be related to a stone tape theory

476
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:22,679
type slash times of the event like
that, where you're seeing either something that

477
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,920
happened or is something that's going to
happen. Yeah, yeah, I mean

478
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,800
that expands the subject even even further, doesn't It makes it even harder to

479
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:37,440
explain? Yeah? Yeah. And
another thing that happened to this lady that

480
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,639
I used to work with many years
ago in the eighties. I used to

481
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:47,360
work in a film library and she
was one of the supervisors that repaired the

482
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,559
sixteen minute meter training films they are
okay, Yeah. I mentioned this lady

483
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:57,000
in the last show funny Enough,
because she had this spin hard story to

484
00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:00,119
tell me. I remember that,
the Russian thing. Yeah, yeah,

485
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,480
the stolen Russian film. Well,
I won't say her name, but during

486
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:07,840
the other conversation she told me the
Russian story, she said that she had

487
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,800
seen a ghost and I said,
all right, tech me more. And

488
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,320
she said she was a teenager at
the time, and she was like nearing

489
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,960
seventy. This is just before the
pandemic. She told me this story.

490
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,199
And so she said that she was
like perhaps eighteen or something at the time,

491
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,800
and she'd got away to death and
nothing on holiday the family, and

492
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,360
she had stayed in the particular bedroom
and it had a very small window in

493
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,679
this holiday cottage, and she could
just about see the sea through the window,

494
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,719
and she said she went to sleep, but then she woke up in

495
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,039
the middle of the night she saw
this old woman sitting in the chair right

496
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:45,920
by the bed, but her head
was sort of I think it was slumped

497
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,159
over like that. She said,
Okay, she looks at it and thought,

498
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,400
oh my god, it's a ghost
and freaked out and like you said,

499
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,360
you know, put your head under
the covers and just go to sleep,

500
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,480
and said she did about it,
and then she woke up some point

501
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,360
later, maybe it's two or three
hours later, and she sort of open

502
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,679
pulled back the covers and she looked
at the window. She could see the

503
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,280
morning lights starting to come through the
window on the siege because I was getting

504
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,079
morning. Then she remembered, hang
on, I saw a ghost last night.

505
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,119
And she looked to her left and
it was still there in the chair.

506
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,679
But at this time, yeah,
this time, instead of the head

507
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,000
being down, she said, the
head was looking up like that, and

508
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:29,280
she said it looked remarkably like her
grandmother. And she said, I actually

509
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,639
watched it it started to disappear in
front of her. Zach some kind of

510
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,960
was her grandmother still alive or was
she already else this I think her grandmother

511
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,079
was still alive, and so I
kind of I didn't say this at the

512
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,880
time to her, I said,
oh, that's really interesting and scary at

513
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,639
the same time. Then I started
to think about it and analyze it,

514
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:50,320
and I was thinking, Okay,
if we go out of our bodies as

515
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,920
astral traveling or something when we're asleep, maybe and there's only a theory that

516
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:00,599
I put together, hypothetical idea that
maybe her mother was wondering how they were

517
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:05,719
all getting on holiday and it was
kind of concerned and missing them. Wait

518
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,400
for that postcard to I'm saying,
we're happening in a last time, you

519
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:15,679
know, and maybe subconsciously the grandmother
traveled out of her body sat in the

520
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:22,800
chair opposite where this lady was dozing
as a young young teenager. And she

521
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:30,159
then at the point when the day
is coming that people starting to wake up

522
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:36,039
this, Yeah, specter started to
disappear and presumably go back to his body.

523
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,039
Yeah. I the grandmother back in
London. That yeah, yeah,

524
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:43,639
yeah, subconsciously knew what was happening. Everyone was waking up and so she

525
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,719
yeah, yeah, and maybe sharing, maybe shared a dream of her family

526
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,679
or something. It didn't quite remember
all the details, and just to think,

527
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,199
because sometimes you do have dreams where
you just we I don't know if

528
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:57,079
you get this, but I get
dreams where I'm stuck in a house somewhere

529
00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,599
and I'm exploring the house, but
you back into rooms and everything in there

530
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:07,679
is the same. And I've had
dreams like that after taking Magic Mushroom microdocing,

531
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,760
and I'm actually stuck in a place
that I can see and walk around

532
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:16,159
and it doesn't change when you're in
a dream. That is an interesting thing

533
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:21,159
to try when you're dreaming, if
you can consciously try and wake up within

534
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:24,000
a dream, or even if you
do it with something additional, try it.

535
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,480
Try it and find the sun in
your dream. Look out and see

536
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,360
if you can see it, because
you never see it during a dream.

537
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:37,559
You just accept the light where it
is. You don't even question it.

538
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:42,840
But we've been so hard to try
and find the sun in my dream.

539
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,639
And so I did come awake a
little bit within a dream, lucid dream

540
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:47,719
a little bit, and I remember
saying, I want to see the sun.

541
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,199
I want to see the sun.
And I saw this kind of crack

542
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,559
in the roof, like you know, like an would barn or something,

543
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:55,639
and where maybe some of the beams
are missing, and I could see like

544
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,199
a tiny, tiny little star,
and that is all I I felt in

545
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,159
the dream. That was all I
was allowed to see was a tiny star

546
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,920
through lu I couldn't see the sun. And the reason I try and find

547
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:15,639
out is there a son in the
dream is because according to people that come

548
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,159
through from the other side, people
that are dead, they say that the

549
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,159
light comes from all around them.
There doesn't seem to be a sun that

550
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:27,639
illuminates wherever they aren't. Yeah,
the light is all around them, and

551
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,400
they've never seen the sun since they've
died. And so I'm wondering, like,

552
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:34,400
when we're in the dream state,
are we in the spirit world?

553
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,119
And this is one time I look
for the sun just to kind of confirm

554
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:39,280
it. Yeah, it could be. I mean, I've got friends who

555
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:45,599
are psychics who say similar things and
they think that when people take psychedelics that

556
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:51,039
they're going to the same realm that
they tune into naturally. So it couldn't

557
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:53,960
be. It would make it makes
sense if we would go into one place

558
00:41:54,119 --> 00:42:00,639
in dreams and under you know,
psychedelic experiences, etc. Yeah. Yeah,

559
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:05,880
it's just maybe I'm putting too much
logic into something that doesn't work in

560
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,519
the way our minds do in the
physical world. Well well, yeah,

561
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:10,519
when when you go into the dream
world, nothing makes sense and so yeah,

562
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:14,840
it makes perfect sense on the other
side and sip. But you know,

563
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,960
now you mentioned the microbe doses and
you also said that this this particular

564
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,840
drug that you're well, what is
this psychedelic story you got to do?

565
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,280
All? There's some sort of stuff
out that use it in Mexico. Yeah,

566
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,599
So anyone watching who might be interested
in Graham Hancock, for example,

567
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:40,039
has probably heard the word ayawaska,
which is psychedelic from from the Amazon basically

568
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:49,039
which combines two plants. One plant
contains something called DMT dimetal trips to mean,

569
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,800
which is a chemical that we have
in our pineal glands. So it's

570
00:42:52,800 --> 00:43:00,599
not chemical, it's and naturally occurring
substance, and it's thought that when people

571
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,760
have so we share, we say
we related experiences, that it's their pineal

572
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,519
gland releasing DMT. But the only
trouble is if you eat processed foods,

573
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:20,360
alcohol, or you're smoking, pineal
gland becomes enacted and so you don't get

574
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,480
released a d and T. But
the DMT in the leaves of the plant

575
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:35,280
within the Ayawascar brew essentially gives you
that experience. It's psychoedelic experience. It's

576
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,360
also worth mentioned in that in our
stomachs, apparently there's an enzyme which Graham

577
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,760
Handcock often talks about, and that
enzyme stops you from being able to ingest

578
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:49,239
d MT and have a psychedelic experience. So the second ingredients of ia Wascar

579
00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:53,760
switches off that enzyme so that you
can take the plant, medicine, et

580
00:43:53,800 --> 00:44:00,119
cetera, and then have that psychedelic
experience. And this is something that my

581
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:07,199
wife's got into and she's now become
a full blown psychedrth. She's now part

582
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:13,639
of a shamanic group and the stories
that she tells me, it's just incredible.

583
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,920
And I've also been doing awasca,
but only in the microdcing forms for

584
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,719
a while, but I do plan
to join that group when I return to

585
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:29,480
Mexico eventually. But for anyone who
doesn't know, awasca is used for like

586
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:32,599
a number of things, it's hard
to explain to people that it takes you

587
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:38,480
to a spiritual realm where you can
be healed physically and emotionally and spiritually.

588
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,199
That is a hard thing to explain
to the average person on the street and

589
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:51,159
just won't believe what you're telling them. Apart from that, there's also other

590
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:54,960
benefits that you can get, which
I also get through microdocing, which is

591
00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:04,639
like increased focus and a better mood. For example, once you start taking

592
00:45:04,679 --> 00:45:08,199
it, it's very hard to feel
depressed or unmotivated. It's not like you're

593
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:15,440
under the influence of the drug.
It sort of makes you have a tendency

594
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:22,519
to lean towards being productive and solving
problems and always just being nicer, if

595
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:25,400
that makes sense. It just brings
out the best in you without giving you

596
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:32,519
a sort of drug related chemical experience. I can recommend it to anyone,

597
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,639
but I don't think it's legal outside
of Mexico, which is a shame,

598
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,039
because you know, I think it
could save a lot of people a lot

599
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:45,920
of misery because it also treats depression, and there are a lot of people

600
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:53,320
study and I what'scar right now in
the medical professions because they've discovered that it

601
00:45:53,400 --> 00:46:00,360
can create brand new neural pathways and
the brain added. It seems to stand

602
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:05,039
if somebody is addicted to say heroin
or alcohol, and after a few sessions,

603
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:09,480
they don't have that need in their
body anymore because they've been treated spiritually.

604
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:15,480
On the spiritual side, they've been
shown the damage that they're doing to

605
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:21,000
themselves, and they're made to feel
the pain in a way that affects them,

606
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:24,039
and they're shown the damage that they're
doing to other people, and they're

607
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:30,000
made to feel the pain that they
put on other people. But at the

608
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:36,519
same time, it's rebuilding their neural
pathway so they don't even need or think

609
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:42,519
about the substances that they were addicted
to. But what I've noticed, Neil,

610
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,440
in the last year in the Daily
Fail, there's been a lot of

611
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:53,840
articles damning ayahuasca and saying this person
took it and they ended up committed suicide

612
00:46:53,880 --> 00:47:00,440
after they took it. And I
genuinely think that this is a campaign to

613
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:06,559
stop people from being able to help
themselves and improve themselves. Because you read

614
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,400
those stories, they're horrific, and
they're designed to be horrific. They're designed

615
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,599
to make you think, I'm not
touching that because the average you know,

616
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,679
the average guy in the UK.
You know that the Three Counties copany is

617
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,880
going to read that article and say, oh, I'm not going to touch

618
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,360
that. Make you leave it out, you know what I mean. And

619
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,559
they they're going to miss out on
an experience that can improve an aspect of

620
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:34,280
their life that wouldn't be improved otherwise. M reminds me of something called lden.

621
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,880
I don't even ever heard of that. It's called loaddose now taxine,

622
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:43,440
Okay, we not heard that.
Yeah, it is legal. It's perfectly

623
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:45,960
legal to take. And apparently it
was discovered by this guy in the nineteen

624
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,280
eighties who's now passed on, and
he was a doctor or something, but

625
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:57,719
he was helping people with heroin addiction
and apparently this now checks and it's what

626
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,840
they give them to stop them having
that light switches off the connections in the

627
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,480
brain, which sells a little bit
like, well, you're describing just there

628
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,320
with a sand story, similar,
doesn't it. Yeah, yeah, so

629
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,079
I take it as well because it's
good for sort of inflammation. It switches

630
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:13,800
off your brain for inflammation, all
sorts of things like that, and it's

631
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:16,559
it's I would say it's a cure
all but it seems to treat people for

632
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:20,920
a lot of different things. Ld
N. There's a whole kind of discussion

633
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,519
page on various forums about it,
and that's how we found out about it.

634
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:30,760
So we usually sorry, the what's
the ingredients, what's what's in?

635
00:48:30,519 --> 00:48:36,360
Not absolutely sure of yourself because I'm
not sort of a chemical person really,

636
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:42,000
but now check scene a low dose. Now check scene now treck scene that.

637
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,039
Yeah, low dose. So you
get it into small doses, light

638
00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:47,760
saying microdoses are good and I just
take like three drops, but you'd have

639
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,960
to find they say you're sweet spot. So you kind of start off small

640
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,320
over period of maybe a week to
ten days. Then you increase the amount

641
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:00,880
of drops on your timeue and it's
a pipette, right. The most common

642
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,199
side effect is that maybe in the
first couple of days, usually on the

643
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,880
first day only, you get a
bit of a headache and depending on okay,

644
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,079
but once you get past that stage, you're actually on your way sort

645
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:15,920
of thing, and you know,
within a few months, you know like

646
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:22,280
any inflammations or aches and pains or
arthritical problems kind of reduced. I wouldn't

647
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,760
say it cures it, but continued
taking of it seems to reduce those sorts

648
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,880
of problems and that's very good.
It does so direct similar to magic mushrooms

649
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:37,159
and and I Waston microdocin Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I've heard about magic

650
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,159
mushrooms. They're they're researching into Canada
or something like that. My son,

651
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:45,800
my son was telling me about it. Okay, yeah, he's tried the

652
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,519
magic mushrooms and I think they're making
it legal in the UK or maybe in

653
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:53,400
Scotland. I don't know because heaves
in Edinburgh, so I'm assuming yeah,

654
00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:00,800
he's for legal reasons, but he
told me about it's amazing it. My

655
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:06,039
kids have to educate me on he
seeing the world the world at large.

656
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:12,960
So when when they take this in
Mexico, do they do they think they

657
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:17,360
could try to think where they solve
their problems on this inner level with it?

658
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,480
Do they come out then of that
trippy forlike for want of the bet

659
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:29,119
of a word, with the ability
to then physically solve their problems or issues

660
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,519
or Yeah, this is what people
find hard to believe and it kind of

661
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:37,639
links in with the story that you
told once. I think it was like

662
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:43,320
a psychic focus group operating in a
basement where the guy would fix people's problems

663
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:49,119
through the spirit world, but they
would fix them physically. Similarly, there

664
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:52,960
was a there's a building in Mexico
City, and apartment building that was built

665
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,480
by an English guy, and there
was a lady in there whose class as

666
00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,280
a witch and she was doing something
similar in the early nineteen hundred and a

667
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,079
guy went to live with her to
debunk her, and he said that through

668
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:09,679
like spiritual and psychedelic means, she
was manifesting organs and fixing people. And

669
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:14,280
he stayed with her for the rest
of his life and documented all of this.

670
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,960
I don't know if you've ever heard
of that. Nah, No,

671
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:22,880
that's interesting. I came acus.
I'll have to look up some links for

672
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,639
you. But I came upcaus it
quite randomly last month in Mexico City,

673
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:30,079
and I saw this lady on street
doing like a play at night, some

674
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:35,920
people watching her, and she was
right in front of this building and it's

675
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,480
almost like a sort of gothic key
apartment building. And yeah, that they

676
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:44,599
mentioned. They explained to us what
it was, so we looked it up

677
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:52,039
and apparently this guy spent his whole
life eventually becoming her apprentice, and she

678
00:51:52,199 --> 00:52:00,239
was doing something similar with like shamanic
rituals to manifest and transplant organs into able

679
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:07,480
too were badly in need of operations
that probably have killed them through regular surgeon.

680
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,840
It sounds hard to believe until you
look into it, and then yeah,

681
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:16,039
it's to explain. Yeah, the
story, and I'm kind of I

682
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:22,119
can't remember his name now, but
he was the guy that I'm thinking of

683
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:27,440
was he was for a time a
fireman in his life, and then he

684
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:31,679
started to mess around with the Awiji
board in the downtime at the fire station,

685
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:38,039
and a message came true that said
basically about his baby that had died

686
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,440
was okay and being cared for in
the spirit world. But they said that

687
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,599
a doctor will work with you in
the future. And later on it transpired

688
00:52:46,599 --> 00:52:52,480
that this doctor who was a doctor
of Moorefield's Eye Hospital Bega I forget his

689
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:57,599
name, who had died like maybe
six years earlier, was now coming through

690
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,679
entrance through this guy who was the
fireman, and he would starting to do

691
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,599
like psychic operations on people, and
he said. How he did it was

692
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:10,039
that he would lift their spirit out
of their body and then he would operate

693
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:15,480
on the spirit body and then lower
it back down into the physical body.

694
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:21,559
And this guy traveled around the world
doing healing on people with the aid of

695
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:27,760
this doctor spirit from Moorfield's Eye Hospital. Although he's from Moorfield's Eye Hospital,

696
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,920
he was a doctor as well,
so he wasn't just doing eyes and things.

697
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,320
Yeah, I think they called it
the Middlesex Hospital when he was actually

698
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:40,280
there, and it lateran's Mollfield's Eye
Hospital. But it was interesting because he

699
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,559
would he would travel all around the
country and around the world do it,

700
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,239
and even doctors would send their own
patients to this guy because they said,

701
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,800
we don't know what else to do. And then even doctors themselves who were

702
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,039
trying to treat them selves for illnesses
would then go and see this guy to

703
00:53:57,039 --> 00:54:02,000
get treated and yeah, they they
are an amazing results. And how the

704
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,239
people explain that, I just don't
know. Again, skeptics would always have

705
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:13,119
an answer, yeah, yeah,
and it's not even worth going into that,

706
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:16,039
I guess. No. Well,
that's that's the thing about skeptics there.

707
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:21,599
I mean, you know, you're
it's always The funnier thing is that

708
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:25,880
skeptics that explain how it's all done
at a psychic demonstration or a mediumship demonstration,

709
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,519
how it's all done, but they've
never actually been to the demonstration themselves

710
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:35,039
actually see it being done. They
don't need to do they no, they

711
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:37,800
don't need no. I mean,
the things I know from my own personal

712
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:43,119
experiences as as mediums will tell you. I suppose that the mediumship is real

713
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,599
because when I'm doing it themself,
I'm getting the images in my head clayable

714
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,880
enty. I'm not taking anything for
it, no drugs or anything. It's

715
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,400
literally tuning in and doing something.
Now, I'm not saying that I could

716
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,800
just be in the stream, go
clean, I'll do a reading on something

717
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,880
like that. You have to get
in the right kind of state. And

718
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,639
it's like staying well, you have
to get in the right state to have

719
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:07,639
a dream. You can't just go, oh, I think I'll have a

720
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,559
dream and it sort of like shut
your eyes and you're having a dream.

721
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:12,440
Yeah, you know, you have
to relact your mind. Your mind drifts

722
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,719
offtics into the state and alpha state, and eventually you go into that dream.

723
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,400
Well, so it takes a bit
of time with mediumship. It takes

724
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,559
a little bit time to get into
that state, and the more he starts

725
00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:24,079
to do it, the more it
starts to happen, and then ball starts

726
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:30,000
to roll and to get things coming
through. But it's the skeptic will not

727
00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:34,119
understanding it that because they'll just think
that you're cold reading or something, you

728
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:36,760
know. Yeah, and they won't
bother look here, they won't bother going

729
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,639
in deep yeah, yeah, which
is what the guide did in Mexico City

730
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:45,719
to stay with the lady that they
called the Witch. He made the effort

731
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,280
to go in and see what's happening, and once he actually saw it and

732
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,320
understood it, that's why he stayed
for the rest of his dates. It's

733
00:55:54,320 --> 00:56:01,280
affected so deeply affected his world view
and his understanding of reality. Stayed,

734
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:07,559
never went back. But as for
the Ayawascar experiences, yeah, I'm always

735
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:13,760
being pressed to go for the full
experience because I've always suffered from visual migraine,

736
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,039
which is where you go partially blind
for an hour and then you get

737
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:22,239
like the worst hangover in the world. And I'm told that that can be

738
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:29,360
stopped permanently through Ayawascar. So really
interesting. Yeah, because I'll let you

739
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:36,159
know how that goes adventure. No
strange thing is I had almost no migraines

740
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:42,079
since I've started taking the microdovcing interesting, which is strange. But the only

741
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:45,599
side effects of microdacing and this is
a bit woo. And you notice this

742
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,320
starts and stops when you're taking it
or not taking it, is you can

743
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,639
be making a cup of tea and
there's someone standing next to you and you

744
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:54,639
just think, oh my gosh,
you so I'm round if there's no one

745
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:59,840
there, And that happens a lot, and you really feel like a presence

746
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,880
for a second, really be jumped
in. I don't know if that's because

747
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,000
you're tuning into things on another level. And I can be sitting at my

748
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:12,519
desk and I'll have like people whizzing
past me just very quickly, or I'll

749
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,440
see something, you know, in
the reflection of the monitor, but there's

750
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:21,400
no one there, you know.
And I've done experiments with not taking it

751
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,480
for a while and that does go
away. So I don't know if a

752
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:29,719
side effect is can tune into something
different, could be I know that on

753
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:35,079
the first time my wife evertook it, she said that at the ceremony they

754
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:39,960
had a mass share in USO experience
like as the substance starts to kick in

755
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:45,280
slowly. The first thing that happened
before they had any other kind of visual

756
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:52,159
experience was that they noticed craft in
the sky of different shape, sizes,

757
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:57,800
colors, movements, and they're all
describing the same thing. But of course,

758
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,039
you know, if she's not there, and you know you're a skeptic,

759
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:04,519
you're not going to believe it.
But when you hear them talking about

760
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:08,719
it with such passion because they were
there and they were affected by it,

761
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:15,639
you can't help believe them. And
this leads on to something else about the

762
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:19,559
eyewaspar experience, which is kind of
unbelievable, which is that a lot of

763
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:23,039
people wake up the next morning.
This is in my wife's group at least,

764
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:30,039
and they say they had a whole
night's journey of being explained to them

765
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:35,639
that they're actually an extraterrestrial from another
galaxy, you know, the universe,

766
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,800
that they're on planet Earth to be
given a human experience to learn something that

767
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,639
their spirit needs to progress, and
so they're actually not human and they'll never

768
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,840
incarnate as a human being again and
haven't before, and this is their one

769
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,960
experience on earth. Wow, So
how do you how do you explain that?

770
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:01,000
That sounds very doctor doctor Stephen greerish, doesn't it? Yeah, would

771
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:06,440
Stephen Greer do? I was sturoid? I don't know. He's as a

772
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,480
medical doctor. I think he would
probably come around to it, you know,

773
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:15,400
understanding drugs and the effects, and
I think probably would be open to

774
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:21,199
it. Yeah, he's very spiritual
sort of guy by by sort of stuff.

775
00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:22,719
He's talked about his friends that had
died and he sort of fills their

776
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,679
spirit or something like that. So
he seems to be quite open to the

777
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,039
idea of spirit and which is introding
it. And talking of Stephen Greer,

778
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:37,320
it's interesting that it's a shame that
he wasn't invited to these these eyewitness testimonies

779
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,960
or whatever they called it in Washington. He seems to be the guy that

780
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:44,679
kind of tried to get the ball
rolling years ago, and there has now

781
00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:50,679
been left left out of it.
Really, his original conference was like ten

782
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:54,119
fifteen years ago now it was in
twenty in two thousand, I think,

783
00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:59,280
yeah, because what happened, he
said that they did it like in the

784
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:05,679
July of two thousand. They're they're
their Washington Press Club thing where they're getting

785
01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:08,440
like twenty witnesses to swear on the
Bible or whatever it was, all swear

786
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:15,079
an allegiance or whatever they were swearing
on and then talk about the Yeah,

787
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,320
yeah, the United States of America. That's it. And he said that

788
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,639
what happened, it was all going
well, and then nine to eleven happened

789
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:27,199
like a month later, and it
all got buried under all that, and

790
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:32,000
it's kind of comedia about Yeah yeah, yeah, So I mean the White

791
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:36,039
House saw it on TV and they
said it's time to bring out the energy

792
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:39,239
with Yeah, that's we can't cover
this. Yeah, let's drop a lot

793
01:00:39,239 --> 01:00:44,880
of ayawasker and bring out an energy
weapon. Yeah, what what's your what's

794
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,920
your take on this? Uh?
This this eyewitness disclosure things been happening in

795
01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:59,320
Washington with David Grush and the other
people and stuff. I think it's interesting

796
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:07,679
that we've had a strange couple of
months uthology wise with the balloons and other

797
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,960
objects over Alaska that they shot down. Yeah, yeah, See to me,

798
01:01:12,039 --> 01:01:15,039
it kind of looks like a narrative
playing out, it does, doesn't

799
01:01:15,079 --> 01:01:20,440
it. Yeah, And I have
a hard time I know that Ben weren't

800
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,760
like me saying this. But I
have a hard tign with anyone that goes

801
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:28,840
on mainstream media with anything to say. I just I just can't trust it.

802
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,599
As much as I love the subject
of euthology, and as much as

803
01:01:31,639 --> 01:01:37,280
I know that there are so many
people out there with genuine stories and experiences,

804
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:42,320
anyone that comes from any of the
services, so just being mean.

805
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,760
Was that that guy was in the
Was it the Navy or the Air Force?

806
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:50,000
The Air Force? David garis Air
Force. I just find it hard

807
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:54,480
to trust them, especially if you
consider the fact that this is playing out.

808
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,800
You know, one week we've got
balloons, then we've got UFO,

809
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,599
which they don't tell us what the
nature of them was, and now we've

810
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:07,480
got this playing out on mainstream news. There could be so many reasons.

811
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:12,920
Why is it a distraction for you
know, covering up Hunter Biden's tax evasion

812
01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:19,519
at Napstop scandal or is it that
sorry don yeah, God saying now it's

813
01:02:19,519 --> 01:02:22,719
always It could be loads of distractions. But it's interesting. I was watching

814
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,400
David like the other day and he
was talking about the fact that it could

815
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:31,639
be Verna von Brown's warning about a
fake Elian invasion, and it was just

816
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:36,199
about to say that he wrote a
book. Apparently. I never realized this

817
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:42,599
until I saw this uh David like
kind of briefing where he talked about a

818
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:50,599
book, a fictional bookvon Brown wrote
about setting up a Mars colony. And

819
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:53,000
the guy in the book who set
up the Mars colony was a guy called

820
01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:59,519
Elon. Yeah, yeah, And
I thought, my god, it's just

821
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:01,840
that's pretty cute as well, wasn't
it. Yeah, that is true,

822
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,039
freaky. I didn't know that about
the book either. No, no,

823
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:08,559
it's as first news to me.
But but according to to according to Wyke,

824
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:15,599
he's saying it may be this Bernavon
Brown warning is now coming to fruition

825
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:20,280
and so like the narrative who describe
the balloons to kind of get it in

826
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,960
our head about oh, I don't
identify find objects being led down the garden

827
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,920
path. We shot some objects down. Then literally a few months later we're

828
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,440
getting this guy come and say,
yeah, then America's got these down craft

829
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:35,840
and and you're giving all this information. I mean, the thing that I

830
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,199
find a bit weird is that if
it is true and they are being honest

831
01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:42,840
and saying, you know, we've
got to look into it, they can

832
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,320
have a bit of a problem because
they've then got open up all the presents,

833
01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:50,159
but we're asking for them to open
up, and that's a lot of

834
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:54,400
presents talking about animal mutilations, all
the negatively. Yeah, it's not all

835
01:03:54,519 --> 01:04:00,719
up a light vindicated. Yeah yeah. And are they gonna try and separate

836
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,559
the wheat from the chaff on that? I don't know. It makes you

837
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:08,280
wonder how they would roll it out
logistically, doesn't it. Yeah, yeah,

838
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,960
bearing all those factors in mind.
But I tell you what then,

839
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,800
I don't know if you ever look
on Instagram and TikTok much. I mean,

840
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,880
I only use them for promoting music, But there's a lot of videos

841
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,960
that come up where people are filming
the sky in the United States and they're

842
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:27,159
saying, what's wrong with the sky? And it's split down the middle and

843
01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:29,800
it can be like dark on one
side of light on the other, with

844
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,480
a straight line right from the horizon
to space. And there are quite a

845
01:04:33,519 --> 01:04:38,239
lot of these videos around And are
they fake again to spread the word at

846
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,559
something weird going on in the sky
or are they real? Because sometimes I'm

847
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:46,559
thinking, how do they get all
these different people to be looking at something

848
01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:50,119
and they just seem to be random
people off the street, people approaching it

849
01:04:50,239 --> 01:04:56,159
a crosswalk, So sometimes it makes
me think they must be looking at something.

850
01:04:57,559 --> 01:05:00,320
Is that is that blue bean?
Or is that Are they going to

851
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:05,239
say that's part of alien tech,
but there's going to be a threat that

852
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:10,559
really is blue beam and that they're
doing everything. There are so many possibilities

853
01:05:10,599 --> 01:05:14,280
on the Yeah, yeah, well, I'm going to watch with interest and

854
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,119
see how this plays out. Apparently
Crusher so that he was going to give

855
01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:20,559
all the names of the witnesses that
give him given him the information, but

856
01:05:20,599 --> 01:05:25,639
he has to do it behind closed
doors, and see I don't trust me.

857
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,199
Yeah, I mean, that's apparently
happened. Now he's mentally going to

858
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,039
secure safe room or whatever they call
it where he can give all the information.

859
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,559
Now it's interesting because they could have
asked that information before he actually testified

860
01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:42,920
it. Jeff Are who went out
on public but he said of it publicly,

861
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,119
so that all the public are aware
that he's got this information. Is

862
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:48,719
it's a deliberate fee to the public. And you know, if it sounds

863
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:54,639
like we're being told we are,
I think we are being butted up for

864
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,480
something. They wouldn't do this.
You know it's not an accident that,

865
01:05:58,639 --> 01:06:00,920
oh my god, he's broken all
these loopholes to get this to the stage.

866
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:04,800
I think the path has been smoothed
over a little bit to get to

867
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:10,440
this point. Definitely, somebody somewhere
is engineering it. Yeah yeah, And

868
01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:14,599
like the balloons and things like that. That's that's like the appetizer, that's

869
01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:18,119
the warm up movie. It to
like just put it into our heads.

870
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:23,760
It's the first five minutes of Independence
Day. Yeah. Yeah, it's fuzzy.

871
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,920
It's gonna be interesting to see how
it plays out in the autumn.

872
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,199
Anyway, I think we're going to
have to call this a close now.

873
01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:35,440
Although normally the Paranormal Peep Show runs
for nearly two hours, but I've got

874
01:06:36,119 --> 01:06:40,960
an early start in the morning and
stuff, And I know that if Andy

875
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:45,519
was here would be I wasking a
one hundred and twenty more questions. But

876
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:48,039
I know that I want to try
and get another editing onto this because I'm

877
01:06:48,039 --> 01:06:54,400
hopefully going to meet up with Mark
and Irene this coming Saturday. They're the

878
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,559
founders of the Paranormal UK radio network. Mark is coming over to the UK

879
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:00,599
for a visit. I know he's
going to visit Stonehenge with Ivory, and

880
01:07:00,639 --> 01:07:03,840
so I'm going to try and meet
them near Stonehenge at a pub. So

881
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,800
I said, I'll take it on
my camera, my audio recorder and maybe

882
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,719
we could do a little round the
table discussion of the public. It doesn't

883
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,280
get too noisy, So I'm going
to hopefully populate part two of the show

884
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:18,960
with some of that as well,
so it won't just be our discussion,

885
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,760
it will be a few other things
as well. So i'd like to see

886
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:26,320
Thank you Gary for your time anyway, for spending time to chat to me,

887
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,000
and I know i'd like to do
a part two with you as well

888
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:35,159
as some point I've covered almost nothing, if barely scratched. Yeah, I

889
01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:39,280
know, I know we've barely scratched
the surface. I know. I think

890
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,159
the t other as we were waffling
on too much about Hamil Hempstea, the

891
01:07:42,239 --> 01:07:45,559
Deliza Hamill Hempsky. It may have
a more interesting show and yeah, more

892
01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:49,400
stuff in the can for next time. Absolutely it puts Hemill Hempsted on the

893
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,400
map as well as Mexico. That's
the way I see it. It does.

894
01:07:53,559 --> 01:07:57,760
Yeah, all right, well,
thank you once again Gary, and

895
01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:01,480
we'll listen out for some of you
or music on various shows. What show

896
01:08:01,519 --> 01:08:04,760
can we listen out for it?
When? When that might be streamed?

897
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:09,159
Anything that we got a kind of
well, have your name in the credits?

898
01:08:09,199 --> 01:08:12,840
Do you think, Well, if
it's a movie, have it has

899
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,000
my name in the credits, But
it was a TV show, they generally

900
01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:21,720
leave leave it out. But if
anyone's interested, look me up on Spotify

901
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:28,319
as the Deathbeats, which is my
current band name, which is a project

902
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:31,920
which is retro synth drum and bass
and eighty synth wave. That is my

903
01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:36,840
most popular musical alias excellent. All
right, we'll do that, thank you

904
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,920
very much. Indeed, Gary Robinson, and we'll catch you next time on

905
01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:45,439
the Paranormal Peep Show. Hopey,
a couple of months down the road,

906
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,520
and maybe you'll be back in Mexico
by then. I don't know that.

907
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,880
Yeah, we'll see see, let's
see how we get on. All right,

908
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:58,439
nice one, Thank you so much, take care brother bye bye.

909
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,520
Well, as I mentioned they're in
part one, I did actually meet up

910
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:13,840
with Mark and Irene at a pub
outside Stonehenge and we decided to record our

911
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,319
second part of our show actually in
the pub. So it's a bit of

912
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:21,239
a drift down memory lane. Like
the Copper and Ball's pubs that we used

913
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:26,920
to have recordings with, this is
for real, this time actually in a

914
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:31,720
real life pub. So listen out
for myself, Mark and Irene and Irene's

915
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:40,239
husband Brian, as we all have
a round the table chat enjoy. Hey

916
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:44,680
everybody, that's Mark Johnson and we
are here in person. I wish I

917
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,439
could say it was at our standard
pub, well, the Copper and Ball.

918
01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:57,199
We're actually the swan in in Stufford
in the way the United Kingdom,

919
01:09:57,239 --> 01:10:02,159
and I'm here with Irene our and
they'll get his ward, Irine's husband Brian,

920
01:10:03,079 --> 01:10:08,279
which here here having a chat of
course, talking about all things strange

921
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:15,640
and unusual here in the land of
Merlin. King Arthur and all yeah that

922
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:18,319
okay, then I don't know that
because hey, we're over in Wales and

923
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:23,720
we yeah, you're staying in and
Carl Wall was staying well, we're here.

924
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:28,439
He's just been to stonehand Lord just
visit a stone hinge today, very

925
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:34,960
lovely makes little world for Marylyn Bob. Bob gave me take a sponge and

926
01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:43,119
Monday kid Lady Castle where parts of
the Monty Python film was Old Lady.

927
01:10:43,279 --> 01:10:46,039
Yeah, that's mine with the rabbits, Yeah, with the French, with

928
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:48,720
the French, the friend the French. Yeah, least since I've seen that.

929
01:10:50,039 --> 01:10:54,840
So what was your thoughts on Stonehenge
mob It's beautiful. I mean,

930
01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:00,760
I'm out. I loved Neolithic sites. Yeah, and oh Stonehenge. Ch

931
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,600
I've always wanted to visit in person. It's kind of funny though, because

932
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:10,840
I visit these sites it's like old
hat. Yeah. I love visiting these

933
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,439
old places, and because they do
give off such a name ergy and I'm

934
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,920
of course very fascinated with the building
techniques, not what they tell us how

935
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,920
they were made, but yeah,
they were really made. Yeah, well

936
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:28,199
do you see would why? Yeah? Yeah, well they certainly weren't chipped

937
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:33,439
away by Stone Age people with copper
tools transported with logs on rollers. If

938
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,439
you looked at the actual blue standing
and saying why, I was like,

939
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:41,600
oh fool And even though they're in
being lops, need to just come of

940
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,800
chick them out eating lay up a
lot. Is there like a big Stonehenge

941
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,239
gap in the commits? Yeah,
but have a bullet spot. Yeah,

942
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:54,840
but we weren't you seeing some of
these stonies came over from whales? Yeah,

943
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,159
which on minus one it's been well, so where how in the heck

944
01:11:58,199 --> 01:12:01,880
would they transport them? Well back
a couple of hours, they just BC.

945
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:08,800
I think I think they will built
on boardies on came from That's what

946
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:13,239
I'm sure I saw something out frupted
new stones came on bars is it the

947
01:12:13,319 --> 01:12:19,560
severets? And then they were but
they're so big as so many tons and

948
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:24,640
a will put them taught and pulled
by ops and old season on sorts.

949
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:30,279
So they say, well, yeah, I mind the blue signs. You

950
01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:35,319
know if you go to see the
blue signs and wells when your baylim and

951
01:12:35,359 --> 01:12:41,239
they actually still to you. That's
interesting. When Blake we were talking about

952
01:12:41,279 --> 01:12:46,600
the crystall line structure something in the
granite. Now that's interesting because I'm we

953
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:51,760
intercuwed Q Newman for our show last
year. Oh yeah, yeah, doing

954
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:57,119
stones Heat and he talks about giants
on record, and he said there's been

955
01:12:57,199 --> 01:13:02,039
giants skeletons found around everywhere and in
the UK, and apparently giant skeletons have

956
01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:08,680
been found if memory serves me correct, around the Stonehenge area. And there's

957
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,279
another lady we interview a few years
ago called Maria Wheatley, who also talks

958
01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:15,640
about we've got Adam Marie. Yeah, and she talks about some guy that

959
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:20,439
saw beams of energy. I can't
remember the Stonehenge or from Stone Circles and

960
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,520
the guy that she said report it
was a very straight laced kind of kernel

961
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,520
type or something that was. It
might have been even an engineer. But

962
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,239
but it was very interesting what she
said. But certainly the official English Heritage

963
01:13:33,319 --> 01:13:38,600
version of Stonehenge, it's very different
from the undercurrent systoneings that we're hearing about.

964
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,279
Yeah, well that's typical of mostly
historic state. Yeah, yeah,

965
01:13:42,359 --> 01:13:46,680
specially when as what we were talking
about earlier, the flat that while the

966
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,119
stones they're flat, yea, and
they will be not better. They're all

967
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:56,159
like down through time and put back
together. How they think how they think

968
01:13:56,239 --> 01:14:00,119
it looked like m that's right,
that's right. There are for those listening.

969
01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:03,199
There are pictures in existence if you
find them, I presume on the

970
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:08,960
internet. I've certainly seen some of
the early part of the twentieth century where

971
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,760
it shows them actually hoisting the stones
back up, putting them into a place.

972
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,920
And they may not be actual in
the place that there were five thousand

973
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,640
years ago. They might be off
slidely but it's their best guests. And

974
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:26,159
that's not the only set of stones
that are being resurrected. There is the

975
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:30,760
Abury Stone Circle in the village of
Abury, and many of those stones were

976
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:35,720
laying flat, and I believe there's
a story going around where again a real

977
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:42,520
weekly is the expert on this talk
about there's a stone that they sound and

978
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,319
underneath it it was a skeleton.
I think it's the barber skeleton. It

979
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,520
was called so forward because they had
a leather rape and simply he had either

980
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:56,000
like barber tools in there and a
pair of glass squad But apparently when they

981
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,840
were trying to hoist these stones up
in the Middle Ages, got them upright,

982
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:01,760
this one clapped back down on him. He was the unluppy guy that

983
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:11,479
got it. So no one so
they can get a new barbary. Yeah,

984
01:15:12,119 --> 01:15:16,439
there was a vacant sick but yeah, I mean, did you feel

985
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,640
any kind of energies as you went
around? I personally did not, but

986
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,520
there were so many people around.
Yeah, we really couldn't get close enough.

987
01:15:26,359 --> 01:15:29,680
I mean, parts more interestingble and
all the birds sitting up on the

988
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,000
styles. When I was a kid, least playlists back in the fifties.

989
01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:42,159
Yeah, I used to feel the
valgrations for the spault mark could were people

990
01:15:42,199 --> 01:15:45,359
climbing up onto the top thine other
ones up, Yeah, burn down.

991
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:50,640
Let's kids don't and mom and dad
always bought vicknick Yeah. Yeah, a

992
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:56,279
friend minds. Yeah, there are
a bit old admitters that they remember having

993
01:15:56,319 --> 01:16:00,680
picnics at stone Ende. Yeah.
Us, interesting thought because it's just totally

994
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:05,880
I wanted I really want to deal
to Firstly, well, well, too

995
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,760
bad, I didn't realize that.
Honestly, I didn't realize it would still

996
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:13,159
be so far away. Yeah,
so far away and so many people.

997
01:16:14,199 --> 01:16:16,640
You know now that you know,
you don't drive up to it, the

998
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:20,760
driving you had to shuttle bus.
Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot

999
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:26,279
of controversy back in the late nineties
early two thousand because I think English Heritage

1000
01:16:26,279 --> 01:16:30,039
were planning to build like an underpart
something that's correct. Yeah, And a

1001
01:16:30,039 --> 01:16:33,560
lot of people are posted, isn't
that I think it was overturned and so

1002
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:39,560
much traffic goes through that road.
Well, so I'm duty some summers and

1003
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,079
we'll just it's just blown. Yeah, and it just creates too much crop

1004
01:16:45,119 --> 01:16:49,960
bus with the stones and yeah,
and in the build an underpart. Yeah,

1005
01:16:50,079 --> 01:16:55,159
it goes through there and they objected
strongly and yeah, yeah, because

1006
01:16:55,159 --> 01:16:59,960
it would divert a lot of yes. Yeah, plus you don't know which

1007
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,880
are going to hit, let's face
it. That's one of the things that

1008
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:08,840
we're learning about lately. Town much
stuff is sort of buried undergrown. Yeah.

1009
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:13,079
And whenever they have an archeological fine, it's usually because they're doing some

1010
01:17:13,159 --> 01:17:17,079
kind of construction and Diggie absolute and
then they find bones, they find ARTI

1011
01:17:17,119 --> 01:17:21,520
bat see it buying gardens, yeah, yeah, and they're only given a

1012
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:26,680
certain amount of time to that's wrong, and folks roll fitting and lobby for

1013
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,399
the construction is completely Yeah. I've
got an interesting funny story and I won't

1014
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,760
say his name. My brother's marriage
to a Welsh girl, as I said,

1015
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,279
and he lives in Wales now.
His father in law is a retired

1016
01:17:39,319 --> 01:17:43,960
builder and apparently he had found something
like a tour down the end of his

1017
01:17:44,039 --> 01:17:49,520
garden uck, you know, winstone
thing covered leaves and him digging around it

1018
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:57,199
thrives them. They'd off some f
but the skeleton and the add spurs on.

1019
01:17:58,079 --> 01:18:00,479
He seemed to be like a kind
of cavalier a night or the or

1020
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,840
cavalier type of guy over the sword. He had spurs on his shoes and

1021
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,479
everything like that, and he's to
stay at the end of the garden.

1022
01:18:08,039 --> 01:18:12,039
So what would you think he's going
to do the responsibly cool up Welsh heritage

1023
01:18:12,119 --> 01:18:14,600
or whoever it might be. How
can he come and ship out to night?

1024
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,239
Now? What he got as a
bin bag? I JuffEd in the

1025
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:24,079
big and drove it to the dumb. Yeah. He just kept quiet about

1026
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:29,960
it. Yeah, because he knew
that if he called in those people,

1027
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:35,600
this project is going to get stars. Yeah. Yeah, they're just lots

1028
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:41,520
of farmers. Do that before they
fire. Yeah yeah, suver it up

1029
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:46,000
and keep quiet because they're all that's
staring like, yeah, yes, there's

1030
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:51,319
there's SAPs. The story that in
the No speed on on the Primes he

1031
01:18:51,399 --> 01:18:58,079
had a guy's doing some drying work
and he's uncovered it on the floor.

1032
01:18:58,399 --> 01:19:04,960
Wow, funnel it this one now, I think press Quarter what a site.

1033
01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:09,119
When I was tublers Wells, as
you know, I lived in the

1034
01:19:09,239 --> 01:19:13,159
Orchy Islands for five years. My
daughter still lives up in the Orkney Islands,

1035
01:19:13,159 --> 01:19:15,800
which is a group of islands off
the north coast of Scotland. Everyone

1036
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,359
calls it the Orkney is but you
get told off by them. They don't

1037
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,720
hike it. It's got to be
called the Orkney Islands or Orkney because it's

1038
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:29,319
a county technical And there was a
farm on that discovered a I don't know.

1039
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,680
Yeah, he felt that the ground
was slightly followed when every time he

1040
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:36,039
was driving his machinery, everybody it's
fell kind of here, bit spongy or

1041
01:19:36,079 --> 01:19:40,680
something. So he shoved the pole
down and he just heard going and going

1042
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:45,840
and going. So eventually sharp corksdown
and he found a whole bloody tomb under

1043
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:51,399
his garden, and so he called
in people and discovered that it was actually

1044
01:19:51,399 --> 01:19:57,000
a burial site within his garden,
and there was like skeletons of eagles as

1045
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,479
well as human bones. It became
none locally as the two of the equal

1046
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,479
thrown out. It's a tourist site
up in the Orkney running and it's on

1047
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:08,720
this guy's land. It's not like
run by the Historic Scotland Group. It's

1048
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:15,239
his own private kind of blady for
But in Orkandy there's there's blades galore everywhere.

1049
01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:16,479
A look, you know there's a
bump of drivings. I mean,

1050
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,840
we went for at a dig on
the isle of Westray where we live,

1051
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:25,119
and and they were holding a special
come and meet the archaeologist state. So

1052
01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:27,439
the thought, oh, we're going
to chat to them about that, you

1053
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,520
know us. So we wrote these
little bumps to them and got got there

1054
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,600
and the guide was saying, yeah, we've found all these bones here in

1055
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:38,760
this house. And this house goes
back about three thousand years. But the

1056
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:44,119
interesting thing is is that it's it's
like houses upon houses on houses over the

1057
01:20:44,199 --> 01:20:47,279
centuries. So the present house that's
here today was built in the nine in

1058
01:20:47,279 --> 01:20:51,319
the thirties, and the people that
live in that house now are the descendants

1059
01:20:51,399 --> 01:20:56,079
of these neolithic people that live right
here next door. You know that's in

1060
01:20:56,159 --> 01:21:00,319
free because they've just kept living on
the same side. Yeah, but he

1061
01:21:00,399 --> 01:21:03,000
said there's a whole village behind him. What we said, go where it

1062
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:11,079
is the village He says, oh, you just grow bot it bucks where

1063
01:21:11,119 --> 01:21:16,319
people and buildings and yeah, yeah, this is quite Yeah, I think

1064
01:21:16,359 --> 01:21:30,560
it's been given anything given a look
a stylized historic bot. It's absolutely a

1065
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:38,920
folks listen more on on front hoole. Yeah, there's something that means across

1066
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:46,319
as large come listened new someone.
It's just so drifted cost shadow I think

1067
01:21:46,399 --> 01:21:55,560
really slamson and through the draft.
But I think that's the door. It's

1068
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,479
all enhanced it should we storry?
Yeah? Yeah, happy new bind.

1069
01:22:02,039 --> 01:22:12,520
This would all be paked. There's
no paints facing the good mark out,

1070
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:17,880
scrows or nails would be would one
eight off bow It probably won't be safe

1071
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:27,000
now, oh yeah they restoped gitting
So and here we say a hundred years

1072
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,439
old what did you say on that
website? And we looked up with the

1073
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:36,520
decided to come to this one.
I don't remember seen it's in place.

1074
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:44,199
Good passaging. Come and start messaging
saying now I'm just eat tan pubs around

1075
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:53,199
stone into something. It was probably
used by the deeper Stone in the old

1076
01:22:53,239 --> 01:22:57,199
fox around lens. Wait wait,
but when you said all day, you

1077
01:22:57,239 --> 01:23:00,079
know, allowing there'll be some blocks
in the place. Yeah, you're ready

1078
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:06,319
for a poll beer on the in. But the old ocean runs or something

1079
01:23:06,399 --> 01:23:11,199
like that because it is on ze
road. Cool, and you've got that

1080
01:23:11,279 --> 01:23:16,039
big old barn back directly. You've
been sort of fables. Yeah, pluzzing

1081
01:23:16,079 --> 01:23:27,279
airs. Why it took us were
found out a lot of lands my experience,

1082
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:30,640
depending on who you speak to,
they take over a pub and they

1083
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:35,560
don't know much about it and where
I used to live and there was a

1084
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:40,840
very very old pub there that they
had found I think in the mid nineteen

1085
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:45,600
nineties when they were doing some renovations. The actually found some original drawings on

1086
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,520
the upstairs walls that have been drawn
by someone. But it was drawings.

1087
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:54,560
And I think the technical word film
is cartoon, but obviously we we think

1088
01:23:54,560 --> 01:24:00,399
of carltings and animation but not lines
walls. And they picked my hats of

1089
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,079
the seventeenth century about Dick Tuk and
type of house on inner drawings. And

1090
01:24:04,199 --> 01:24:09,600
this guy that took hold of the
pub was kind of moan me, No,

1091
01:24:10,039 --> 01:24:13,119
I can't paint over it. I
want to plan and give it a

1092
01:24:13,239 --> 01:24:16,399
pain on all too, because this
has been framed in grass and yeah there's

1093
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,880
heritage and was some listed building.
And these pupa means they just want to

1094
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:26,960
like salberhold on, Oh my god, that rain coming down. Well we'll

1095
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:35,600
get another fruit yep ys for a
real the texture. Yeah za, yes,

1096
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:41,840
I got the same thing you did
part Yeah. What about if they

1097
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:47,680
do an alcohold on mom alcoholic,
I'd appreciate be coore on wine. Yeah,

1098
01:24:48,279 --> 01:24:51,520
yeah, yep, and come on, witness. They didn't admit it,

1099
01:24:51,560 --> 01:25:00,039
but a bird's getting meaningful. Yeah
it is. I've read some It

1100
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:03,319
is like the rainiest August on record
for a long long time, and normally

1101
01:25:03,359 --> 01:25:06,520
August has really fought, isn't it. Yeah, okay, because my daughter's

1102
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:11,239
birthday is lang in the middle of
August, and we have always remembered really

1103
01:25:11,239 --> 01:25:14,920
really off with the birthday. So
and the thought, it's supposed to be

1104
01:25:15,319 --> 01:25:20,600
really nice tomorrow and the week right, why happened it stoics tomorrow because we're

1105
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:26,720
going in the dark. Yeah,
we're gonna sit under theo if it's nice.

1106
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,359
I've fountain and they're going to think
fast by at the back line,

1107
01:25:30,359 --> 01:25:35,239
I said the girls. Then change
it to a bottle because Pett the boat

1108
01:25:35,279 --> 01:25:42,359
with the straw, and then when
to stay. We're off to London,

1109
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,760
to London, and so y'all making
it to London. I thought that,

1110
01:25:48,359 --> 01:25:53,640
yeah, don't fut touch what?
Yeah, the original basically we're gonna stay

1111
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:58,920
got rented out and we weren't going
to go. And then Brian actually knew

1112
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:04,199
about the cheap hotel ran outside the
area that one could take keep training and

1113
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:12,520
we'll see some fakes excellent, it'll
just be ant Renes. Yeah, Buckingham

1114
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:16,800
parious. I remember showing an American
friend of mine around London about fifteen years

1115
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,960
ago. When we were it was
first of mind seemed Buckingham Palace and I

1116
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:24,039
saw it. I thought perct ilsot. It said, because really huge,

1117
01:26:24,079 --> 01:26:27,159
But it's not. It doesn't look
so huge once you're actually there. Yes,

1118
01:26:28,319 --> 01:26:32,399
we've got a roll. The actual
real house, Buckingham House was owned

1119
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:41,720
by Lord Buckinghall Stacking, so it
just dark kingdo King Charles all this summer

1120
01:26:42,319 --> 01:26:47,159
are they married and said they'll like
this seeing marriage Queen shall Are They pulled,

1121
01:26:47,319 --> 01:26:51,680
we wanted a resident at Seeing London
just because all the palaces were outside

1122
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:56,119
London. So I walked you residence
in London for her. So well,

1123
01:26:56,319 --> 01:27:02,800
Buckingmill soccer ball clipboard, that is
only that little. Over the years he

1124
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:08,079
renovated and made it big, girl
and a success has made it big and

1125
01:27:08,199 --> 01:27:11,960
well it's a big court yard in
the middle. Yeah, and the whole

1126
01:27:12,319 --> 01:27:18,199
house goes around over two hundred bedulso
whether the original bucking House not bucking in

1127
01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:23,720
Paris, the original bucking House had
sixty rounds. This is over two one

1128
01:27:25,159 --> 01:27:30,680
now and but then original buck little
house. Do you know what you see

1129
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,279
on the television in the balcony and
all that lending the carriage whi he goes

1130
01:27:34,359 --> 01:27:42,319
through into the courtyard at the back
right opposite that is bucking horse, right

1131
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,880
piece with big wings coming off of
it. I see and seeing. Yeah,

1132
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,279
it is my big when we speaking
of it that way, Yeah,

1133
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:56,000
it's the biggest bottleline one one I
haven't Yes, yeah, with the land

1134
01:27:56,039 --> 01:28:00,520
as well is yeah, yeah,
yeah. I remember when a bit showed

1135
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,520
my American friend round fifteen years ago. We traveled through the tubes of London.

1136
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,960
Obviously to get to these places,
I said, okay, you want

1137
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,119
to see Big Bay and you want
to see something okay, and so were

1138
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:15,039
plotting it all now and we came
across a buscut in the it wants to

1139
01:28:15,079 --> 01:28:19,399
see my uncle at the all right, why is it that would be fascinating

1140
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:25,039
make land. We came across a
busk in the London underground playing his guitar

1141
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:28,600
and she'd had the same one before. She goes, oh, cool the

1142
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,920
oscar. I said, yeah,
I said what I said, Oh,

1143
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:35,560
we have a traditioned here in the
UK. It's that when you can I

1144
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,479
let thank you when you put some
money in that is making you know,

1145
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,840
guitar case or whatever. You've got
to give a bound like that to hear,

1146
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:46,880
of course, and she does really
said, you know you got to

1147
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,720
give a bow as it customed you
will do it was considered roomed. If

1148
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,720
you don't do it, she should
go out. Okay, okay. She

1149
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,399
threw some coins that she kept a
creepy power like that sort of going,

1150
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,520
oh, there's just crack about alarm
and she looked round at me. You

1151
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:06,880
won't get Yeah, never gave me
stay around Londo and that's the lesson London

1152
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:13,399
let anymore. But yeah, I
guess you might see the change in the

1153
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,479
guard. I don't know when they
do that. Is that midweek or turn

1154
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:24,359
the dog ran by every guy?
Yeah? Yeah, you guys do not

1155
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:29,960
go sevening for three or four days
broke, no easually faint before that's you

1156
01:29:30,039 --> 01:29:32,399
pass out. Not Yeah, and
I think they'd be drenched as rats by.

1157
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,880
You know, if the weather stays
like the way it is now.

1158
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:42,439
If Buckingham Palace wanted, I know, Hampton Court is nothing. That's the

1159
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:49,199
only part of a palace, So
yeah, pal is right right now,

1160
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,600
Hampton Court I remember going to the
well I used to go there as a

1161
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:59,680
kid as Yeah, yeah, black
holes. Is it Anne Bonne that goes

1162
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:04,880
around games about suppose? So she
goes everywhere. What's that castle near where

1163
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:10,520
we used to live by? What's
that castle where I'm boloin is up there?

1164
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,159
Well we are somebody? You did
the castle? That was her family?

1165
01:30:15,239 --> 01:30:19,439
Hung jees myself? So should they
told the shot hold the terror?

1166
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:27,000
Thought? Sure? Yeah, yeah. There must be various versions of yeah,

1167
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,880
yeah, well I suppose there's a
ghost. You can literally just plansport

1168
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,399
yourself from one location to another.
I was telling my wife's the other day

1169
01:30:34,399 --> 01:30:38,600
about your ghost story, and I
said, well, because I was hoping

1170
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:44,000
she'd be here and I'll I'll get
Iron to tell you about the mysterious stranger

1171
01:30:44,039 --> 01:30:46,720
they picked up when they were going
to the airport, and so I told

1172
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,920
her about it, but I said, I'll find get you to say it.

1173
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:55,159
So can't you say it? For
the benefit both my wife and listening

1174
01:30:55,159 --> 01:30:58,239
to the game souse, I found
it fascinatescating. Yeah, we were on

1175
01:30:58,399 --> 01:31:00,960
the way to Bristo away Paul,
because my cousin in Scotland had just died

1176
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,039
and his funeral was on that day
and we had to get a flight up

1177
01:31:05,079 --> 01:31:12,760
to him Scotland and back in one
day. Were we flow up and back

1178
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:16,800
these other dogs and well I could
only get it from Bristol airport. So

1179
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:21,439
we are driving through all these company
names, crossing him for drums in his

1180
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:25,800
country, and I sent your weading
towards the April woman. We're just going

1181
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:30,239
and going. But it was about
four o'clock in the morning and we had

1182
01:31:30,279 --> 01:31:32,199
to be at the airport buying six
or five April or something. And I

1183
01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:36,359
like because it was I think in
six o'clock flom it. Yeah, And

1184
01:31:39,279 --> 01:31:45,680
it was a misty cold January morning, freeze or cold. And we go

1185
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,840
dad, all these little lanes and
nothing but hedge rowers will going past us

1186
01:31:50,079 --> 01:31:54,920
in either there was no houses,
they wed drums and then our other or

1187
01:31:55,479 --> 01:32:00,600
this man appears and he's walking along, so I said, quickly, quick

1188
01:32:01,279 --> 01:32:04,600
stop and last him all the way. So we had asked him how to

1189
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,600
get to the airport. He said, al, he said, it's all

1190
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,960
away from me. He said,
I have to show me a car.

1191
01:32:10,039 --> 01:32:13,800
Before we could say that. He's
got the car. Let's just stroll down.

1192
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:21,000
Sitting behind me. There's a strangers
sitting behind where and he's driving and

1193
01:32:21,119 --> 01:32:24,520
laugh. It wasn't he could stab
us in the buffon eight. He could

1194
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:28,199
do anything. Sound sitting like there's
top trying to talk to give Naomi,

1195
01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:32,760
and I said to right here,
turn left out and there's certain other We

1196
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:38,159
get to the airport, and just
before we get to the short stay color

1197
01:32:38,279 --> 01:32:42,680
part, he says, stop here, we'll get up. Listen. Well,

1198
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,640
how are you going to get back? Don't worry, he said,

1199
01:32:45,039 --> 01:32:48,000
I can get back there all right, mort cool looking, good roles for

1200
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:54,279
him in the car weekly walls and
I turned around to Brian's and sift some

1201
01:32:54,399 --> 01:32:58,239
bigicism fair and you know, the
ves some money or something other to Brian

1202
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,479
and Inson something back if you're no
where to be seen, nowhere to be

1203
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,359
seeing that he got out of the
car, got out of the car.

1204
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:09,000
He got out of the car as
well. Okay, you honestly you were

1205
01:33:09,079 --> 01:33:11,640
talking to him. You turned to
Brian. When you look back, then

1206
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,399
it's astonished. So about a week
later it was bothering me. About a

1207
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,840
week later I said to Grime,
we still argue over this. Now.

1208
01:33:21,239 --> 01:33:27,079
You sent that post that we picked
up on the way to Crystal Airport,

1209
01:33:28,239 --> 01:33:30,199
said, what what did you wake
for? What to use? What did

1210
01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:36,760
he look like to you? Psychament
descriptions totally different to this personal that's weird.

1211
01:33:38,359 --> 01:33:40,680
He said he had a bag.
I said he did another bag?

1212
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,600
Used to they had glasses, He
didn't have falses. Why a whate beard

1213
01:33:48,039 --> 01:33:55,000
grosses had you said? He was
very smartly dressed and not not smartly devil

1214
01:33:55,079 --> 01:34:03,920
brute, but he just got will
to me. You know, it's a

1215
01:34:04,039 --> 01:34:13,199
great hand silver because someone like pain
me and he had like a well what

1216
01:34:13,279 --> 01:34:18,000
do they call me? Something?
Are like, yeah, yeah, an

1217
01:34:18,039 --> 01:34:25,960
ANIRECTI and he he said that he
used to walk from the airport back to

1218
01:34:26,079 --> 01:34:31,840
Bristol. You should come out to
a clocking mounding. It's a long way

1219
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,479
to walk. Yeah. Yeah.
They used to deal with the lines,

1220
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:41,720
no wonder he knew his weight as
airport. Yeah. But the point is

1221
01:34:43,279 --> 01:34:46,800
you're jumped for you exocistically all right, it was we al to step to

1222
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:55,359
the airport when he got out of
car disappeared. Were not a living cur

1223
01:34:55,840 --> 01:35:00,560
Yeah? Have they got were there? Probably totally lost? And the point

1224
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,199
is the past the others been up
in Scotland a dark my favorite passing.

1225
01:35:05,279 --> 01:35:10,239
Okay, and if I haven't the
being at a funeral, I would have

1226
01:35:10,279 --> 01:35:13,840
been devastated. The andy We've all
have liked it. So does I keep

1227
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,840
yourself the Guardian angel type pool?
Yeah, that's interesting well with the basket.

1228
01:35:18,119 --> 01:35:23,720
Yeah, in their land show,
the way she's bloodyns together. That

1229
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,399
there's the fact that you too will
saw somebody completely different. Yeah yeah,

1230
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:35,239
yeah and him chi Yeah, that's
a bit at the airport me is that's

1231
01:35:35,279 --> 01:35:42,399
just agree. It would be interested
if you could retrace steps go at Bristol

1232
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:45,880
every fee if he's walking the streets
again early hours. Well yeah, actually

1233
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:50,159
been back to Bristol, would be
out to Italy. Yeah, well if

1234
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:55,039
we can go at root, yeah, the right root. Have they been

1235
01:35:55,239 --> 01:36:00,000
talked a little weakly? Bristol's best
kept seat that yeah. And so there's

1236
01:36:00,039 --> 01:36:03,479
another ghost story that I like and
jewels, but well I don't think it's

1237
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,720
the technically, I suppose it wouldn't
be a ghost because bluff, he's looking

1238
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:13,520
through your son's house in it was
in London and you saw this blade or

1239
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,399
someone the flat No, that beig
house, it's been averted into flat and

1240
01:36:17,279 --> 01:36:24,279
young arts when she saw you?
Yeah one minute doctors a lemon, Yeah,

1241
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:30,479
lemon Any. She my dear what
it was a beautiful house, absolutely

1242
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,760
good, beautiful house. I loved
it. I would have bought it as

1243
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:38,840
it was, but a friend of
Brian's bought it and they decided to turn

1244
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:45,600
it into apartments. Well that's actually
and are not picked down and she'll six

1245
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:50,039
houses. Right, there was a
monkey puzzle, true, I should right

1246
01:36:50,359 --> 01:37:00,159
house their preservational and Middley's partner chopped
it down, so all the plan stop

1247
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:04,399
there Ryan playing stake that just kept
it feelings because he just went in there

1248
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:08,600
on a satt. He was he's
a bully, this guy. Yeah,

1249
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:13,000
he's an extra Rugby part bullet.
What's up? What I won't night?

1250
01:37:14,079 --> 01:37:17,319
He's a bullet And he just went
in there with a book cut the beast

1251
01:37:18,399 --> 01:37:27,399
because he coaches Rugby thought number and
he went in there and knocked it down,

1252
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,359
chopped it back, knupped it down. The pub. Yeah, well

1253
01:37:31,359 --> 01:37:38,279
don't know why there a beautiful house
as far sou So they started selling into

1254
01:37:38,319 --> 01:37:42,720
the partners. So my son moved
in there because he was overseeing the world

1255
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,600
for wonderful mother because when he used
to go out and we're like becau see

1256
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:53,039
his girlfrieze we'll come back. Every
time he walked through the door, a

1257
01:37:53,159 --> 01:37:57,319
bears woman stolen the top and spell
it was a staircase that went up like

1258
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,319
that. He winded stick blinding the
staircase beautiful what ever, so white,

1259
01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:05,399
and she'd stand up the top and
stays like we was still here and did

1260
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:10,079
just go? You would just go
now, I'm ignoring. Hell, this

1261
01:38:10,239 --> 01:38:15,520
is Jably were James light, and
it got back into his light where he

1262
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,720
was sleeping. But we weren't run
there this day, and he said,

1263
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:23,760
I'll show you around. So it
took this little tour around the house and

1264
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:30,319
we ended up being the antic why
and it was obviously where the staff and

1265
01:38:30,399 --> 01:38:33,760
missus staying and such people that were
in service would stay up there and live

1266
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:39,399
up there. And we're looking around
and everything. I didn't feed anything up

1267
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:45,640
first faced walked with the after was
made up like these little the rooms they

1268
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,680
will dat of this particular room that
I was in. And I was the

1269
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,840
last one to go out, and
as I got to the door, the

1270
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:54,880
door was about there, right right
in front of me. As I put

1271
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,600
to the door, we went like
that. She's standing there and she's looking

1272
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,720
at me. Was shot and I'm
looking at her shure, you know outside,

1273
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:06,960
Come on, mom, I'm looking
at this apparition. Women's looking like

1274
01:39:08,119 --> 01:39:10,920
me, and she as if she
could see me, and I know she

1275
01:39:11,039 --> 01:39:13,760
was seen men. Look on her
face? Was its more less the same

1276
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:19,479
one? Yeah, when she was
dressed as ah like she'd make it.

1277
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:27,880
She was like mayor major house on
my lea house what they called the women

1278
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:33,840
that were top above them, the
star or mistress of yeah, the equipment

1279
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:39,560
of mister Hudson, but a lady. Yeah, yeah, and that's what

1280
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:43,640
she was. Still I leave that. So that's the second nine everything or

1281
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,479
more that spot. What did she
do about me? She looks to me

1282
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:50,720
as I felt satan. Wow,
that's interd and it was like the talents.

1283
01:39:51,359 --> 01:39:56,560
Yeah, that's why I think it
was not like you're seeing the ghost

1284
01:39:56,640 --> 01:40:01,159
of a person who died like he
was. You both were alive much live

1285
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:06,760
being just happened to have been occupying
different times in the same space. But

1286
01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:12,960
the conditionings great. You could see
each them, but that's between before I

1287
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:18,079
had time six but which it was
only the fact that they were Javita tunneled

1288
01:40:18,119 --> 01:40:24,199
one that I turned around looked for
all stuff. Is it some of now

1289
01:40:24,279 --> 01:40:29,159
wants to keep well, no did
yeah, yeah, he told me,

1290
01:40:29,279 --> 01:40:32,119
all right, it's gild me interested
with these people from the past suddenly wrote

1291
01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:36,159
in their diary today I saw a
lady looking at me in clothes I've never

1292
01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:43,840
seen before. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, exactly. Yeah. Now talking

1293
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:45,279
to the building work. It reminds
me of the story. And I had

1294
01:40:45,319 --> 01:40:49,039
said this before, but I'll recount
him. I'm actually don't know this story

1295
01:40:49,119 --> 01:40:54,279
brand, but it's a story that
I heard from a guy on a plane

1296
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,800
and I was going out to Spain
and he sat next to me, and

1297
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,560
of course on this plane going back
to Spane, we yes, yes,

1298
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:06,159
I remember your yes, yeah,
it was there's a lot of SPANDID game.

1299
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,560
So one of the last guys to
get on the plane, I thought

1300
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,520
it was a Spanish guys, and
they announced on the ten I sent about

1301
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,560
turning his phone to it or this
or something like that, and he goes,

1302
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:17,960
what was that. I said,
I had no clue. Sorry.

1303
01:41:18,279 --> 01:41:21,000
So we got into this little conversation, me and this guy and my son

1304
01:41:21,159 --> 01:41:25,800
was here, lean's looking out the
window and this guy, I said that,

1305
01:41:26,279 --> 01:41:28,279
you know, are you going on
holiday? There's no no, he

1306
01:41:28,319 --> 01:41:30,600
said, I'm from I live in
London, he said, but I'm originally

1307
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,439
from he said, I'd prefer to
call it plus show that. Yeah,

1308
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:39,439
you know you would note stairs are
ran, he said, But I live

1309
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:43,560
in London. I'm an architect and
I'm going out to Mancus. So you

1310
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:46,800
check on some buildings. I'm running
the project for sort of thing. And

1311
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,239
I said, oh, okay.
So he said, what do you do.

1312
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,520
At the time, I lived in
the Orkney Islands, so we ran

1313
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:58,039
this fairy museum stroke gallery. Uh. And so I happened to have on

1314
01:41:58,119 --> 01:42:00,880
my phone and photographs and the draw
and I've done. And I said,

1315
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:01,920
here you go that this is sort
of stuff. I'm interesting. So I

1316
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,960
showed him that sort of stuff,
and I told him a few of the

1317
01:42:05,079 --> 01:42:13,800
weird stories that I'd researched. And
what happened was as that he then opened

1318
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,359
up a bit. And I don't
think he would have opened up had just

1319
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:20,800
been a roller. The mel guy
asked those and he said when he was

1320
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:27,039
about eighteen or nineteen, he was
conscripted into the Iranian Army, and him

1321
01:42:27,079 --> 01:42:30,600
and his army buddy walk in the
streets at night in alarm, and he

1322
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,319
said, a sending storm kicked that
and so they thought shelf and they went

1323
01:42:33,359 --> 01:42:36,720
into this mosque and you have to
pick your shoes and box of him.

1324
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:41,520
Yeah, and that's what they did. Yeah, that's what they did.

1325
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,800
And he said to his army buddy, okay, you go to sleep with

1326
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,880
get back to the wall or laid
down, and as sixth next to you,

1327
01:42:47,399 --> 01:42:50,319
I've got the gun and I keep
a lookout ready signs at trouble.

1328
01:42:51,079 --> 01:42:54,439
That's what they said. So okay, so that's what he did, and

1329
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:57,199
he said, no, man,
they are already tried. This guy always

1330
01:42:57,199 --> 01:43:00,079
called him lussy. He said,
he kept waking up, sorry, falling

1331
01:43:00,119 --> 01:43:03,279
asleep and then waking up, falling
asleep and waking up. And the third

1332
01:43:03,319 --> 01:43:08,079
time he fell asleep and he woke
must stay away, I must stay awake.

1333
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:12,800
The third time he woke up,
he said, he noticed this at

1334
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:17,720
lady crouching down looking at and there
was a young girl nexting this lady,

1335
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:23,359
he said, about twelve thirteen years
away, crouching down looking at his friend's

1336
01:43:23,399 --> 01:43:26,680
feet, and he thought, where
the hell did they come from? So

1337
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:30,239
trying to wake up his friend by
pressing his elbow onto his friend's chest,

1338
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:34,840
and he said them how hard he
pressed his shoulder, sorry, his elbow

1339
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:40,319
onto his friend's chest, and his
friend didn't wake up, so he said,

1340
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,319
who's saying? He said, at
that point, I decided I was

1341
01:43:43,359 --> 01:43:45,119
going to make her money for it. I thought, I don't know why

1342
01:43:45,159 --> 01:43:47,359
he was going to make it.
His ear at the gun and decided to

1343
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:53,079
wrack the stat of the gun around
his arm. But he said that last

1344
01:43:53,079 --> 01:43:58,159
of the chatted the lady to look
at it, and he said she instead

1345
01:43:58,159 --> 01:44:00,720
of looking at his feet, she
looked up in his said, as soon

1346
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:04,319
as she looked at me the eye, he said, I knew she wasn't

1347
01:44:04,399 --> 01:44:08,520
from this world. And he said, I felt a she would go down

1348
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,680
me and I just knew that she
wasn't from this world. Instead, at

1349
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:15,079
that point, the lady stood up, and the young girls stood up,

1350
01:44:15,119 --> 01:44:17,479
and they turned and they walked away. He said. As they walked away,

1351
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:23,560
he noticed they both had calliphony coothed
feet, in other words, those

1352
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,279
of a goat cataws. He said, we had vanished into the wall of

1353
01:44:27,279 --> 01:44:30,039
the knots, and Money told me
that the ships went up, and my

1354
01:44:30,199 --> 01:44:34,640
spine I can believe it now,
Oh my god, there's a wonderful the

1355
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:40,199
story tell him about the rain will
we name est today? Well, yeah,

1356
01:44:40,279 --> 01:44:43,239
we showed you the picture. Yeah, I've got a whole bunch of

1357
01:44:43,319 --> 01:44:46,560
high definitional pictures of the ring.
Yeah. And one thing that we discover

1358
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:55,119
is every single picture we took the
rain. At first I thought it was

1359
01:44:55,199 --> 01:45:00,359
Caradolia, and we've done so much
experimenting with it, realized that was our

1360
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:05,720
paradolia. Though we we've tried different
lightning techniques. But every single picture you

1361
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:11,800
take of the rings, either on
the bridge of its snows or in one

1362
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:15,800
of the eyes, there are faces. They work well, real big,

1363
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:24,840
scary looking or creepy bases. All
are men women, yeah, on the

1364
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:30,399
sex, but on the nose there's
there's there's straight different pictures on the levels

1365
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:33,399
of three different places. One of
those places, like you, yus Ago.

1366
01:45:34,199 --> 01:45:38,960
I took a photograph and I noticed
something something in the middle of evening

1367
01:45:39,199 --> 01:45:41,760
with like tin in the night.
So I'm very good, bigger, and

1368
01:45:43,039 --> 01:45:48,399
there was this picture of this person
with hair and every big right and what

1369
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:54,479
one of the pictures that he took
up the eye? No, how pen

1370
01:45:55,359 --> 01:45:59,840
this Paradonian now penal place so little
years ago. Pay fee in the eye

1371
01:46:00,039 --> 01:46:03,600
when you took it in the nose
mm. You don't see the same face

1372
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:10,520
twice, it's never editing face call. Yeah, and you would also get

1373
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:16,840
the same kind of discolorations because of
the silver or reel. It's not perfect,

1374
01:46:17,159 --> 01:46:23,840
yeah, because it's obviously older.
Yeah. And you know you would

1375
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:27,560
think if you would take multiple pictures
in the same spot, it's not carving

1376
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,920
and there it stay the same,
but it changes. Yeah. Yeah,

1377
01:46:30,079 --> 01:46:33,920
first I thought it was reflecting me
back because of you'd say it had and

1378
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:43,560
what mountain troubers food. But yeah, this one, well here, here's

1379
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,439
a perfect example. Okay, what
came up with? What maybe the old

1380
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:51,720
will say to us? Yeah?
Yeah, let me shoot, Okay,

1381
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:56,880
this is a very picture. Yeah
see this eye right here? Yeah okay.

1382
01:46:57,279 --> 01:47:00,039
Second may would be it's left to
eyes. If I zoom in all

1383
01:47:00,119 --> 01:47:08,800
the way, you tell me what
you see east can alien or with the

1384
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:14,279
two eyes down at the bottom,
I'm seeing a woman. Oh okay,

1385
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:19,199
well one hair see the world's face. Well you said we'll all looking at

1386
01:47:19,239 --> 01:47:23,399
these two patches of red at the
bottom, thinking they could be a oh

1387
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:29,680
you know what I didn't know?
Said, they're always that's rail staring the

1388
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:33,319
rubies. Yeah, yeah, the
rail stars fitted in so they're bulging.

1389
01:47:33,399 --> 01:47:39,159
But when we're looking to them like
that into the depths of head. Yeah,

1390
01:47:39,199 --> 01:47:43,359
here's another bolts over the bait.
Yeah, I'm going to zoom into

1391
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:48,600
the nose. Well yeah, it
doesn't look like a look at so you

1392
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:53,720
said, I'm it with an eye
big yeah, and all this looks like

1393
01:47:53,800 --> 01:48:00,439
the mouth is open. Yeah screen. Yeah, that screen like something out

1394
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:05,239
of give him a top Tolero film, or there's a guy that did Pan's

1395
01:48:05,319 --> 01:48:11,800
Labyrinth. You know there's a total
Yeah, it's it could well, there's

1396
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:16,640
the boys. There's a picture of
that. That's the scree yeah, yes,

1397
01:48:17,239 --> 01:48:24,960
the mouth open yeah yeah. So
this is the ring upside down and

1398
01:48:25,119 --> 01:48:29,920
that's the bridge top of the nose. But it looks like there's another base

1399
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:38,560
set. Yeah yeah. But and
it just keeps happening every time we take

1400
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:42,479
a picture. The one amazes me
as a part one of the pictures.

1401
01:48:43,079 --> 01:48:49,920
It's the same that I fall in
thens. Yeah, y'alls go, he's

1402
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:55,920
called the same first of a little
bloke in the eye. Yeah. So

1403
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,520
this scring is it? I remember
you taught about in the screen before the

1404
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:05,359
history industry of the ring. Well, I mean she acquired it in Italy.

1405
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:12,199
Yeah, from someone she knew,
and who would he found it?

1406
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:18,079
Retry movie. It used to be
an old, very old, and we're

1407
01:49:18,159 --> 01:49:24,079
close lived in living Wich. Yea
and his family bought the house that this

1408
01:49:24,279 --> 01:49:29,119
rikine s lived in, hanging on
the arm the old me close since the

1409
01:49:29,199 --> 01:49:33,439
way of the ring liver Dad belt
M and his family fought the house after

1410
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:38,359
the recluse died and ringing an iron. No he will kitch him. This

1411
01:49:38,399 --> 01:49:43,720
was the ring and there's nothing to
ask and ass were great thought they were

1412
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:48,199
doing. He started having bad luck, blaming the ring in Catholic. He

1413
01:49:48,319 --> 01:49:53,039
blamed in the ring in him Amazon
with fired luck. So he wouldn't buried

1414
01:49:53,079 --> 01:49:59,920
it in the churchyard, right yeah, and another chip and it sapped,

1415
01:50:00,039 --> 01:50:06,479
what's up a very lit the church? Or were in the depth there in

1416
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:10,600
summer or winter? You'll let him
at me and tell me about it,

1417
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,560
for I s going to get up. He said, no, he said,

1418
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,560
that will't big let up. You
know it's in the sacred place and

1419
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,479
let us lie there now for a
girls, I'm not going to get up.

1420
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:25,319
So we work on all for the
church shop and all the graves will

1421
01:50:25,319 --> 01:50:28,880
ever say it had been cut with
it all to morrow but all notice so

1422
01:50:29,039 --> 01:50:31,760
flat, and all they whis is
down except for one. It's worth the

1423
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:35,600
grass the bit of the marlwa stick
a life. Why, he said,

1424
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:40,840
that's where it is a smaller helping
them all. While we're going around,

1425
01:50:41,119 --> 01:50:45,199
he jumped with this Tocto glass.
You're right, why was this Toctor glass?

1426
01:50:45,399 --> 01:50:49,119
Is anyway? I started pulling out
the gronloss, trying to pull it

1427
01:50:49,159 --> 01:50:55,720
out to take as well. Roud
to do so he got this spating that

1428
01:50:55,840 --> 01:51:00,119
he had and dug it up.
Work, dug the grass rain, took

1429
01:51:00,159 --> 01:51:02,439
the ring it wasn't wrapped in,
and it looked at the ring and the

1430
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:06,479
brown. Then it is a shiny
and new look. We're not new looking,

1431
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:11,439
both shining, and said it was
who saw it yesterday? There was

1432
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,479
no doubt the mark and it come
through all those winters, all that bad

1433
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:18,720
yvon nothing on it. So first
he said, well, what's it?

1434
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:23,560
Giving the he said, you can
have it. He said that all he

1435
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:30,279
said, it's so well, I've
had it ever since, and he took

1436
01:51:30,359 --> 01:51:34,520
it to jewelry. Yeah, we
took it to a jeweler. Of the

1437
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:38,800
two of us. Yeah, the
journal was an old Colieri it or somebody

1438
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:44,000
like that. Polyish like camelines are
during the war and the Middle Old Land,

1439
01:51:45,119 --> 01:51:49,000
and he always kept his jewelry shop
with what which was very unusually forward

1440
01:51:49,079 --> 01:51:57,000
and the windows it's not used.
Yeah, but in the seventhies it was

1441
01:51:57,119 --> 01:52:00,960
very unusual travel lockjen shops. You
had something about to get in in abody

1442
01:52:01,359 --> 01:52:05,199
and he opened the door and I
had to bring one way him. So

1443
01:52:05,279 --> 01:52:08,920
it's something about this, he said, No, he tell me to go

1444
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:12,560
away anyway. I kept assist all
of the system. Finally clut my feet

1445
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,399
over the threshold of the door and
he looked at the read he said,

1446
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:20,920
sold his silver club for one nugget
of silver, he said, and may

1447
01:52:21,279 --> 01:52:24,880
he said it. I'm sure,
he said. The eyes well, rope

1448
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,880
is but no, I think they've
got on it. We may have said,

1449
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,319
full on. It's someone. It's
a very very old Get out of

1450
01:52:30,399 --> 01:52:35,680
my hands, look out of my
house. The other keeper. Get out

1451
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:40,600
of the shop. And he kicked
us at the door and literally edged us

1452
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:45,119
out. Muddy door could get up
well, locked the door behind us.

1453
01:52:45,119 --> 01:52:49,880
Someone lonely again, my god.
But the actual shank of the ring was

1454
01:52:50,119 --> 01:52:54,960
so so thick, there's not much
stick of a little bit so thin.

1455
01:52:55,199 --> 01:52:59,840
Yeah, right where it's been warmed
so much. Why do's worried about it

1456
01:53:00,079 --> 01:53:05,079
breaking on zooming rings? So I
took it to Sadmuels that Samuels is not

1457
01:53:05,319 --> 01:53:10,000
like this old fool the area in
June, you know, I said,

1458
01:53:10,039 --> 01:53:13,359
kin was just reshadowed this ring for
me. So they reshant it and as

1459
01:53:13,359 --> 01:53:16,279
I resized it to my size so
I can wear it. So they've done

1460
01:53:16,319 --> 01:53:21,960
that. And I were in the
age twental one. I had it my

1461
01:53:23,079 --> 01:53:29,159
fingers. I was about eight stone
and weight skinny. My fingers were skinny,

1462
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,880
right, and that ring still fits
my finger. Now I'm a few

1463
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:38,960
stones heavier. My fingers are a
lot faster, but I would trobably that

1464
01:53:39,079 --> 01:53:42,960
ring. It goes on easy,
and when it's on and it just tightens

1465
01:53:43,079 --> 01:53:48,319
its south up scabs alive. Sounded
like the one ring. Ward, Maybe

1466
01:53:48,359 --> 01:53:53,199
that's where they got the idea for
the one Ring. Yeah, we actually

1467
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:58,079
send pictures over to the British Museum, und it, trying to get an

1468
01:53:58,119 --> 01:54:01,960
idea. You don't know how old
they thought it might be. Of course

1469
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:08,239
they're looking at pictures about the actual
ring, right, yeah, and you

1470
01:54:08,359 --> 01:54:12,359
know what, it could be a
representation though, because let's face it,

1471
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,399
you show it, Katy Christian,
they're gonna see them, doll. Yeah.

1472
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:21,039
Because of the ornsk knows New Year. For a while there, because

1473
01:54:21,079 --> 01:54:25,600
it was found in Italy, we
thought it might have been a representation of

1474
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:34,800
Pan or if Yeah, yeah,
then there was a Babylonian but yeah what

1475
01:54:35,239 --> 01:54:44,039
one of the first civilizations. Yeah, there was an old god who God?

1476
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,239
Yeah, so if we got a
might have something you can do with

1477
01:54:48,279 --> 01:54:54,880
that. So but we don't really
know now. The British Museum seeing the

1478
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:59,800
thing for a ring was almost four
to five hundred years old. But it's

1479
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:06,479
a the books in the slice on
Christopherina right, I there is a lot

1480
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:12,680
olda wada and I think it fell. He was from the see when it

1481
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,039
could be planned. I was hoping
it would be planned because he was born

1482
01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:19,640
and I was born when I was
there born. It came from the Amorphy

1483
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:27,159
coast of Italy. A pomp past
just found the roads and they found a

1484
01:55:27,279 --> 01:55:30,840
bull of pay. When they were
excavated ruins, they found a start through

1485
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:35,359
the land doing naughtice with the goats, right as you do. Yeah,

1486
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:43,960
yeah, which is a get clothing
heating people walking through. Yeah, but

1487
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:49,279
I don't know so much now the
be almond, which is a Egyptian No,

1488
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:58,159
no, like there was a superbilization
that came up with Walgreens and they

1489
01:55:59,039 --> 01:56:04,319
and I started to settle on South
ovisially right, so again I'm a local

1490
01:56:04,359 --> 01:56:10,840
nicktack. Maybe he could do an
image sir, we had well not not

1491
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:16,800
dreading an image search, but I
could try that. We've tried finding others

1492
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:20,000
similar to see if there's another ring
out there like that at all. Yeah,

1493
01:56:20,399 --> 01:56:25,079
and there's some modern ones that are
looked just so cheesy. Yeah,

1494
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:30,920
and it's but nothing history. The
British Museum turned around, how old babe?

1495
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:35,119
But some they did anythink else panned? And that my first so because

1496
01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:38,840
I wrote to them, add lost
some movie for a big pan? Was

1497
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:40,920
that? A friend of mine says, it's a demon? Can it be

1498
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:45,439
paddles it demon? Listen? They
don't think kids pan? Maybe your friend's

1499
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:49,079
right. You think with kids?
Have you is a few? Ye?

1500
01:56:49,279 --> 01:56:51,840
With it is some of your z
years? Oh wow, that's it.

1501
01:56:53,039 --> 01:56:57,479
Hundred years, that's what they said. Well, someone else has told me

1502
01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:02,319
to go the nature was in to
the nightlace. When you say initially so

1503
01:57:02,439 --> 01:57:06,760
that's the next mission. Then well, and here's the thing here's on this

1504
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:15,520
picture. Look how asymmetrical the face
is cutting down that the center. Yeah,

1505
01:57:15,039 --> 01:57:18,640
on this side of it here it's
a smaller beard. It's full night

1506
01:57:19,039 --> 01:57:24,399
the eye is furthered down. Yeah. If you covered up half the face,

1507
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:28,800
it looks almost it's almost like those
dual faces like the theater. Yeah,

1508
01:57:29,159 --> 01:57:32,079
for a comedy in Grama. You
cover half of it, it looks

1509
01:57:32,119 --> 01:57:34,680
one way, but then when you
look at the other half, you get

1510
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:41,319
more of the full beard near it
sticks out farther there's more of a grimace

1511
01:57:41,439 --> 01:57:45,520
on the face, Luna. So
each side of the face is showing off

1512
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:54,479
a different verson like one one good
one either and face didn't he I think

1513
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:58,680
he's neither. I think he just
is. It's just like, how does

1514
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:03,640
it do? He's full mischief?
Oh, I agree, full mischief.

1515
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:10,560
Talk about diving open the safe door. Well, there's some kind of thing

1516
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,880
sound self and the safe door.
It sounds up on the wall point the

1517
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,520
safe door, and there you go. Didn't jump out. It's got a

1518
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:20,279
life of his army, yeah,
Godi of the safe Oh yeah, I

1519
01:58:20,319 --> 01:58:27,000
mean we feel there's some kind of
some kind of attachute. Yeah, And

1520
01:58:27,399 --> 01:58:31,960
you said it was a sound on
an iron nails now and they particularly use

1521
01:58:32,039 --> 01:58:39,479
iron in in uh, but I
don't thember being a That's the thing that

1522
01:58:40,199 --> 01:58:43,079
when sirs got snow, Philip Kins
Seller, I was invited to go with

1523
01:58:43,239 --> 01:58:46,199
into this house people having a lot
of bad luck. This lady I was

1524
01:58:46,239 --> 01:58:49,840
going to die. Their son have
died in music like that. And Philip

1525
01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:54,920
and this other lady and a group
of their friends were doing a sort of

1526
01:58:56,319 --> 01:59:00,159
I don't know what you'd call it, but then troll like exercise. It's

1527
01:59:00,159 --> 01:59:02,880
a place or something. But they're
in He was banging nails into the ground,

1528
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:06,720
iron nails that have been specially made
for it in his punting spaces met

1529
01:59:08,199 --> 01:59:13,560
and they said there's something to do
with the water nearby lay lines. Yeah

1530
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:17,000
yeah, And so that was iron
nails and they've been specifically made for this

1531
01:59:17,239 --> 01:59:20,239
job. They didn't just go and
buy them us. Yeah, that the

1532
01:59:20,359 --> 01:59:26,239
iron nails. So they have come
down in our nails and it's that root.

1533
01:59:27,359 --> 01:59:30,720
And then I hear fairies don't buy
iron. You'd love my house because

1534
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:36,279
greens I talked to carry Greenway.
Oh yeah, yeah about the trees in

1535
01:59:36,359 --> 01:59:42,720
the garbles, I'm older your tree. You've got horseauce trees placed in corners.

1536
01:59:43,039 --> 01:59:45,760
They've got our holly horse lawn hedges. Well this is all to do

1537
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:51,760
with witches and faith. Yeah,
yeah, let's see people. People were

1538
01:59:51,800 --> 02:00:00,680
out of the house. They see
your domin Yeah at that and once the

1539
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:06,880
minister. Yeah he get deacon of
the chapel upper row. Maybe, but

1540
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:24,560
the end used to being tried making
horde, so respects. And somewhere somewhere

1541
02:00:25,359 --> 02:00:34,000
was a poor Paul shilling that he
might one birth wise, biswhere will we

1542
02:00:34,159 --> 02:00:40,039
think in the farmer at the bottom, because he's coming all he's white,

1543
02:00:40,119 --> 02:00:45,119
used to come and visit. He
took theay with bride really mush, you

1544
02:00:45,199 --> 02:00:50,800
know, luck down the lim and
the picture we've got at Hub looking out

1545
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:58,479
the window all minute. I took
a photograph one day, right, and

1546
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:01,000
we're not longer moved. The son
pulled on the leave our first big she

1547
02:01:01,079 --> 02:01:06,199
can camera. So when I rose
took a photosoph for the house from the

1548
02:01:06,319 --> 02:01:11,520
roads, and then when I zoned
into the window, this is what Bryan's

1549
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:15,119
talking about. Hub was looking out
at the wine and thought there used to

1550
02:01:15,159 --> 02:01:24,479
be neck a bag room window.
Yeah, by window, and the curtains

1551
02:01:24,479 --> 02:01:30,520
have formed slightly into the side her
it's cooking out, carrying down into the

1552
02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:38,760
corner of the guard and the Veilbert
that that particularly down to the cartographs.

1553
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:43,720
There was no one in the houssa
behave was in London is now wild Martha,

1554
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:47,760
mum, she was in the land
you know, should be her heat

1555
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:56,159
and said doll in the lounge back, Yeah, smart in your mouth.

1556
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:05,159
There's interesting all these ghos always appearing
doorways and windows. I don't know if

1557
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:11,760
well I feelways whenever I talked fight
about what I was amas windows. That

1558
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:16,359
goes back into our theory of the
ring we never finished, which is,

1559
02:02:17,119 --> 02:02:19,880
oh, yeah, this is a
theory you've come up in the theory that

1560
02:02:20,159 --> 02:02:29,199
struck me yesterday seeing all these spaces, I don't believe we're seeing spaces of

1561
02:02:29,279 --> 02:02:32,640
spirits. I don't necessarily think we're
seeing the faces and demons. Yeah,

1562
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:38,439
I don't think it's spaces. She
thought, maybe it's it was showing faces

1563
02:02:38,479 --> 02:02:43,439
of people it's interacted with over the
year. I think it's it's a in

1564
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:48,520
a way, it's kind of a
pool. It's showing you and images of

1565
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:54,600
people living in other kind of friend
yeah, or in other dimensions. It's

1566
02:02:54,680 --> 02:03:00,920
like giving you a snapshot photo of
other people or other creatures y humanoid like

1567
02:03:00,039 --> 02:03:11,159
preachers, but she also fit maybe
Lessia well yeah with me. Yeah,

1568
02:03:11,359 --> 02:03:16,239
so it's it's it's fascinating. And
again it's every picture there's someting different.

1569
02:03:16,359 --> 02:03:21,399
Yeah, there's always something there every
picture. And you would think that if

1570
02:03:21,439 --> 02:03:25,600
it was a trick of the light
and you for taking the picture, the

1571
02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:28,520
same thing would appear at each time. Yeah, you know, if you're

1572
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:31,720
not moving through the same angle,
everything should be the same. And it's

1573
02:03:32,039 --> 02:03:38,840
obviously yeah yeah, so uh and
that's been a big theme of mind lately

1574
02:03:39,239 --> 02:03:44,920
with research I'm doing is very very
interested in the whole injured dimensional aspect,

1575
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:51,720
because a lot of research being done
right now, like all the show Secret

1576
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:58,520
skate Walker Ranch where they are pretty
much scroothing that there is some type of

1577
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:02,640
a portal wormhole on the property right
where things are able to go in out

1578
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:09,680
of. And I think it's a
good explanation most types of paratoral activity.

1579
02:04:10,479 --> 02:04:15,239
You know, I don't necessarily believe
there's ghosts of spirits who haven't crossed over

1580
02:04:15,319 --> 02:04:19,640
it just any yep. Yeah,
but if you're seeing like the woman that

1581
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:26,560
Irene saw a time slip, it's
part of Paul time is happening at once,

1582
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:31,079
and you even have not only this
all time and this plane that there

1583
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:35,600
could be other planes and realities that
have existence. Yeah, that could bleed

1584
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:43,239
over into arts. So I think
that's what it's shalling. Now there's an

1585
02:04:43,319 --> 02:04:48,359
interesting thing. I've seen it all
Murray's programs might being a ands ancient aliens

1586
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:55,720
they and it might be in South
America might being perused as a slat mountainside

1587
02:04:56,920 --> 02:05:00,119
where there's this section of the wolf
if you want to call it, the

1588
02:05:00,159 --> 02:05:06,439
wall, the side of the mountain
where the local sk a like wall whoever

1589
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:14,640
they were ancient people car like almost
like a doorway into yeah, yeah,

1590
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:20,119
and the locals. That's in Peru, yeah, added brand Forrester, who

1591
02:05:20,239 --> 02:05:29,319
runs the Cousco Museum, and he's
very big into all did yes Neolithic locations

1592
02:05:29,359 --> 02:05:31,960
all around the world, and he's
been there several times. And this squared

1593
02:05:32,079 --> 02:05:38,239
faraway, which is again not some
perfectly symmetrical, and even in the doorway,

1594
02:05:38,319 --> 02:05:43,159
there's an impression right in the center. Now the local shamans will go

1595
02:05:43,359 --> 02:05:46,199
in there and do ritual, yeah
whatever, but it's considered to be a

1596
02:05:46,359 --> 02:05:51,479
portal. Yeah. Yeah, And
this is why my theory is that when

1597
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:56,720
people sees spirits a lot of the
time they appear to be standing in doorway

1598
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:02,479
because I think the doorway acts like
a trance cabinet in a medium sales several

1599
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:06,199
people. Yeah, then we're indoorways. Yeah, people man in their at

1600
02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:12,640
Yeah, they're always indoorways looking at
the little there. And then it brings

1601
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:16,439
us back to stone ange because you've
got doorways. Yeah, there's somebody with

1602
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:21,279
stone engine a reason, because why
people, Yeah, why don't we realistic

1603
02:06:21,399 --> 02:06:27,399
patients struggle with all their effort and
time of stuff to put these bloody huge

1604
02:06:27,439 --> 02:06:30,039
stones. Oh you know, it's
surely got better things to do. But

1605
02:06:30,159 --> 02:06:35,560
that's always extreme importance for some reason, isn't it. So uh yeah,

1606
02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:42,000
maybe they're also when she starts and
it goes around, they're backing. Yeah,

1607
02:06:42,439 --> 02:06:45,720
yep, yeah stop, yeah,
that's it rounded off by Yeah.

1608
02:06:47,279 --> 02:06:50,720
So this is why you got all
these people, like like, you know,

1609
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:56,039
people looking beneath the layers the English
heritage to look at You're looking at

1610
02:06:56,079 --> 02:06:59,640
all this other stuff and you know
it's not just that a look pretty that

1611
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:03,079
stuff because that for a reason.
Yeah, there were all tools and some

1612
02:07:03,319 --> 02:07:09,520
kind yeah, you know, so
they're aligned astronomically and they think, oh,

1613
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:14,079
well it's a calendar in stone,
but it's a lot more than it's

1614
02:07:14,119 --> 02:07:18,600
what we talk about with the vibrations
being in thereain locations and maybe they they

1615
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:24,479
do work as types of portals or
like the pyramids in Egypt, the three

1616
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:29,880
Big Pyramids thought to be some types
of power poets, yeah, producing energy.

1617
02:07:31,079 --> 02:07:40,279
Brian Forster was investigating there's the one
pyramid south of where the the geesea

1618
02:07:40,359 --> 02:07:45,960
plateau caramans as. There's this other
step pyramid, like I forget how far

1619
02:07:46,319 --> 02:07:53,119
south it is, but it looks
like it's it's water, looks clodd it's

1620
02:07:53,600 --> 02:08:00,479
it's destroyed in such a way like
it looks like it had a mini many

1621
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:05,199
exlution that something might have happened.
Maybe edit things worked, power plants being

1622
02:08:05,319 --> 02:08:11,960
as an active Yeah, their own
chinoogles, Yeah, without safety inspectors.

1623
02:08:15,479 --> 02:08:18,720
So we're gonna have to wrap this
up. But thank you everybody for listening

1624
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:26,479
to our little pub chat here being
okay radio Yeah, apparently the UK radio

1625
02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:28,760
network. I'm not sure which program
this is gonna go on on, but

1626
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:35,479
and josephs, yeah, no work. We're actually going to record our owns

1627
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:43,960
two cool. We're gonna do our
own show later this week in the house,

1628
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:46,079
you know, so we'll be sitting
side by side act. Yeah,

1629
02:08:46,439 --> 02:08:52,760
that's brilliant, brilliant. Yeah,
we'll be getting pissed while we're recording of

1630
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:54,239
the show. Is that it's round
shower and you have to edit it down

1631
02:08:54,319 --> 02:09:01,079
and in the missing around. Okay, so that's the end of the show.

1632
02:09:01,199 --> 02:09:03,039
Thank you for listening.