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Hey, everyone, welcome to the
Mark Cast. Here posts USFL show.

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Be damned we're here. Then we
don't just talk XFL in here talking USFL

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as well. Busy day today,
Kraken. In the playoff contention tomorrow against

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the Alps, the Mariners are back
at five hundred that Andy Murray's podgects not

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doing quite as well here, but
we'll get into all of that. The

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c Dragons are one game away from
clinching a playoff. We will get into

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all of that. I finally can
quantify what I like about the USFL and

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what I like about the XFL.
I think I figured that out, and

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Andy has promised me lots of hot
takes today. Andy Murray, the professor,

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I haven't called you that in a
while. Here we have the professor,

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Andrew Murray. We're fired up today. I already got like twelve comments

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here. People are checking in,
how are you doing? I know we

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go by Skipp and Shannon, but
I see more of that online right now

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than I do between us. Honestly, it's going to be made people calling

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us Skipp and Shannon. No,
I mean, you and I call each

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other Skipp and Shannon. But honestly, I think it's more warranted between other

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people online. Right now. That's
good. Andy has promised me lots of

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hot takes. Yeah, and I
do feel like I kind of know now

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what I like about the XFL and
what I like about the USFL. We're

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trying to debate here, Andy and
I. Ratings will be in tomorrow.

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I've seen some preliminary ratings for some
of the USFL we're debating. If we

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want to do an emergency broadcast tomorrow, let us stow in the comments if

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you want to see that. I
still like doing this Monday morning, but

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if you would like to see they, I think they'll be hot takes tomorrow

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about all that as well. Today
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more philosophical. Andy and I like
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you know, I watched Mariners yesterday. I watched it's like six football games.

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Walk the Dog and He's got you
know, lady friends. Now,

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it's all very exciting. So lots
of things going on. But first and

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foremost general thoughts, what did you
make of kind of this cavalcade of eight

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different football games this weekend? I
mean, it was overwhelming, it really

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was. There was so much the
key track of I had floated the idea

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to our group that I was thinking, what if there was like a red

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zone channel, you know, like
a Scott Hanson red zone channel for all

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these games going on the same time
simultaneously. Because we've gotten to that point,

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there's a lot going on, and
when you see it's just so surreal

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to see a USFL game in an
XFL game going on at the same time

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and realizing that they are in principle
they are both springing football games, but

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philosophically they're so different, and seeing
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I guess it would be the same
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in an NFL game back to back, if you're watching those two things together,

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I suppose it would be the same
sensation. I'm not sure, to

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be honest, I don't try that
too often. So it's really interesting to

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see that dichotomy kind of going back
and forth, and it's just it was

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surreal, honestly, and trying to
keep up with all it was overwhelming because

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there's a lot going on. It
was exciting, though I felt like it

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caused you know, and comment in
the chat, like who I posted on

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Twitter who won the weekend? And
obviously the fans won. Okay, that's

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fine, Like the fans won,
the players are but who really won?

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Right? Who did you like better? You know that that's kind of what

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we get in do on here.
But I felt like, you saw,

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you know, Chairwoman Danny Garcia tweeting
a lot, we saw the Rock tweeting

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a lot like this is WCW and
WWF were never better back in the nineties

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when they were feuding against each other. Aw Now with ww it's all kind

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of the same thing. And so
you know, seeing like the Rock,

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I think it's important, like the
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like what what do they have going
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Because I would put the over under
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Rock had seen before. Hopefully this
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he'd watched a couple. I mean, I would hope so, considering how

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much he was tweeting about it,
and the attendance and the figures and you

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know, DC Audie Field and the
Battledome all that, and as right he

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should trumpet all that. But at
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and watching the TV from his gym, which you know could be debatable like

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that's the And also you know he
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entire season. Occasionally you would pop
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something that was like a milestone or
something that was really significant. But you

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know, I think you want to
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week to week. Obviously, Danny's
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mean, she cares very much about
her guardians, who poor thing just cannot

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get a win or put any sort
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been pretty good at trumping stuff.
I know she's been reacting to some of

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your stuff as well. I know
you've been finally getting finally have gotten her

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attention at least, even if it's
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finally gotten into her periphery vision.
I I died, yeah that she was

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the fake the fake punt to the
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it was the fake putt a long
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out, you know, sixty nine
yards whatever. And I always have my

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Adam Standler from Billy Mass at sixty
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you know, this could give me
blocked by our chairwoman, and she

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liked it. So I think Danny
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there. Before we get into all
this, just everyone listening while we have

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peak kind of viewership here at the
beginning, I want to get into this.

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There's been a lot of discussion about
the playoffs scenarios next weekend. We

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were talking, we'll watch it.
We were all watching the game. We're

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watching the group chat, you know, and ESPN. And I don't blame

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you know, friends of the show, Matt Barry and Eric McClain on here

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or anybody else, any of the
announcers, but whoever is doing the fact

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checking at ESPN. The playoffs scenarios
were wrong, is what they said was

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wrong in terms of what was going
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ten with the Battle Hawks taking on
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last game of the XFL regular season
with the Vipers, because they said if

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the if St. Louis wins,
they're in, and I said that's absolutely

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not you know, straight up,
and I said, that's absolutely not the

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case. That, you know,
Seattle, we'd have the same record and

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all this stuff. So here is
this is per the league. We had

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some confusion last night. Some of
the facts and figures were wrong. If

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Saint Louis wins and Seattle loses,
Saint Lewis is in the playoffs. If

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Saint Louis loses in Seattle wins,
Seattle's in the playoffs, that's straight up.

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And then we do have some qualifying
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if one wins or they you know, if they both win, they both

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lose, tie break scenarios. Andy, I just I just still see a

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lot of confusion online. So do
you think we finally kind of have this

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all squared away? I mean yes
and no. I mean it comes down

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to who wins and loses. But
then again, look at this, I

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mean it matters as well as who
loses. And also when you win,

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how do you win. It's become
that complicated. I didn't give it too

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much thought last week because I know
our guy Mike Mitchell was starting to put

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out some of the scenarios, and
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belief and assumption that Saint Louis was
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They didn't show up, So I
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that prediction. But look, I
think this is it's quite convoluted. We

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knew it was going to be convoluted. Can you imagine if DC and lost

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in Seattle. I mean, just
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if that had gone through a DC
almost losing to Arlington almost brought back in

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the possibility of winning the division.
So it's almost could have potentially been even

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more murky at that point. But
this is, I mean, it's it's

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just kind of fascinating to see the
Seattle team just so defiantly, like despite

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all the stuff, despite all the
turnovers from bett In de Nucci and Jim

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Haslet wants to kill him every time
he does it, and all they can't

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seem to, you know, punch
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or they just have There's like there's
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kind a lot of talking points of
like this team should be good. Well,

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they showed up yesterday. I mean, that's why I said last week

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they should be a playoff team.
Unfortunately them in Saint Louis, one of

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them is going to be on the
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they're both worthy of being in the
playoffs. But someone's drawing the shortest

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draw here because of the scenario that
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they're being divisional playoffs. I it's
it's fascinating. Yeah, Mike gets into

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all this sometimes, and I love
Mike, but Michael get damn these Well

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you know, if if if the
rene Gates winned, but then the end

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they went on the road and they
go up by two points, and and

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I always give a little okay,
Mike, like that's that's great, Like

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it's hypothetical ball. I have got
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you know, and God bless.
But then you do get through this now

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where this very much is and even
I think even Max commented, I have

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the wrong one pulled up. So
this is the current one, because we've

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had a couple of different one spoiling
them out. But this is the one,

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and they've got all the different points. But should be exciting regardless,

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and we'll kind of move on from
this. But what I like about this,

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and we talked a few weeks ago
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end of the season, some of
those games really don't care and you know,

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stallions and doesn't matter at all that
I like having all these games have

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consequence here coming in, you know, to week ten. I think that's

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very excited. Anything else on the
c Dragon Saint Lewis right now, we'll

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excuse me, We'll get into the
game. But anything else on kind of

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this before we do general thoughts,
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mean, a lot of these games
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that you know are out of it. Listen, Orlando and Vegas tried their

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damnest this past weekend, not for
lack of trying. They were trying to

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pull out all the stops to win
those games. And look, I know,

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at the end of the day,
they're all professionals, they all want

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to win, they all want to
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But there were points last year with
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where it felt like we're dragging her
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matchups and maybe some of the play
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it seemed to me, had maybe
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not feel that way at all about
any of these games. People care a

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lot, and it seemed to show
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great slate of games. Really,
it really was a lot of them were

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fantastic. I mean, I know
that last game obviously was an unexpected blowout,

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but it still was entertaining from the
fact of like, wow, this

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is what the Seattle team can do. But all the other games were all

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very close matchups, are all one
score games. So yeah, it's it's

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good to still have that quality even
at this point of the season and still

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seeing teams trying things out, you
know, still seeing teams. I mean,

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that fake punt throw was amazing by
the Guardians. I did not see

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that coming at all. That guy
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a putner would even have that kind
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never seen a downfield pass like that
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dump offs or you know, like, oh the guys wide open ten yards.

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That was legit. That was like
a legit NFL throw that he made.

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Well, we famously, you know, the Seattle Seahawks, we famously

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have John Ryan's most famous, Like
remember he was through Yeah yeah, you

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know CFL legend as well, but
he had his scared face on there.

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I think we're all okay, So
I'm just making sure we're kind of bit

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chats. Yeah, Mark's asking like
in someone with more bandwidth breakdown. It's

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not because it's all it's all points
allowed to me. I just I would

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let the games play out. I
really wouldn't. Like. All I just

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know is Saint Louis. It's not
as easy as winning in uh, you

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know, if they win and Seattle
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Otherwise we can get all the macimations
of all this kind of stuff because

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there's a lot of other stuff going
on. Andy, you promise hot takes.

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I have a couple of little USFL
things I want to talk about here,

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thoughts coming out of the weekend.
Well, it depends which league I

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want to start with. There's there's
both. I'll start with the XFL.

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Sense we're still on the topic.
Look, yeah, they got to get

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the playoff scenario stuff right Like ESPN
you're trumpeting this project, you gotta put

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you have to put together the playoff
scenarios correctly. We need to be able

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to put this together. I don't
think that, I know, I know

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we do a lot of great work
here. Obviously, all our media people

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do a fantastic job getting that all
those scenarios, you know, piece together,

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trying to put it together ourselves like
a little puzzle. But ESPN needs

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to be better about that. They
have to put that back on, you

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know, they have to put that
on the forefront. As far as the

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officiating this weekend, um, I
mean, it's fascinating, you know what

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I've noticed. I think teams are
going to start trying to keep their challenges

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till the end of the games.
You can't burn it in the first quarter

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because Dean just has his rules,
his ideas, and obviously doesn't appear that

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everyone's on the same page with that. You know, Stoops was upset about

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a spotting in the in the DC
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good first down and it wasn't,
and why because of the chain movement.

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You had things like obviously at the
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that holding call which extended the game, obviously huge. Just a lot

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of things like that. I think
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goes on moving forward for a lot
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the XFL, that's good. As
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that later, but there are still
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as well. I'm not sure if
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I watched Survivor from much of my
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been through season forty and then I
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the thing with Survivor is people you
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didn't know what to do with it. Okay, now we can barter with

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it. Like I think, I
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not the breaking but the evolution of
the challenge call this weekend. We got

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this big, big touchdown whenever game
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are like, we're challenging. Something's
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have held here, there had to
have band defense, you know, whatever.

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go back and like we know with
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know, offensive lineman in spring leagues
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always holding, there's always whatever,
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when you can retroactively kind of freeze
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been something that happened on this played
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seen the evolution of that challenge where
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end and you got someone upstairs going, yeah, call holding. Okay,

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there's got to be holding on that, and Dean's going to go back and

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look at it, and there are
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to be something there. Yeah.
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that's brought up in every football game
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when there comes to be a question
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of a lot of the pushback on
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little thing is one that slows the
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people say, well, you could
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and call whatever the heck you wat
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that where you say, okay,
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I'm gonna play it as soon as
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or trump card or something like that. Right, It's something that gives you

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that inherent advantage, you know in
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in pop culture, but like you know,

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it's like Mario getting a superpower up, you know, like a fireflower

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or star. It's just like boom, got it. Okay, now we

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got an advantage. Like That's kind
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and it just or like early in
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just wasn't going well, and then
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later in the game. So I
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these challenges be really treated as like
treasure almost like you gotta use it in

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the exact right moment. Well,
like you said, I think anything in

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retrospect you can find anything wrong.
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first correct challenge and they'll call call
offensive holding that I know of. I

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just you know, and I guess
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then I just saw and obviously Becked
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know how that happened, but it
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had at least that even that knowledge
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got there had to have been,
and then that one he got the no

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call. But it felt like,
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we're seeing the evolution of that,
and I think that's exciting. In terms

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of the USFL, we're seeing a
lot of comments, you know, kind

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of seeing the continuity year or two
coming in and everything. I have thoughts

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on USFL XL here. What did
you make of the the USFL slate this

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week? On the first four games? I like the slate. I mean

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the first game Memphis and Philadelphia made
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new home market out there, kind
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The first two the defending champions coming
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the matchups made just perfect sense.
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yeah, you can see players who
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coming to their own and sort of
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the very very limited training camp that
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guys like Hayse Cooks has been in
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out and he looked great against Memphis. He was really in tune with everybody,

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you know. Chris Wallin was great, Matt Colburn looked really awesome.

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Colban looked great. He looked faster
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so like you had some of that
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chemistry, more camaraderie. That's great. Birmingham, I think, how did

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it? Points? It was kind
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good at points, he got a
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McGoo actually looked pretty good when he was

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running the read option and just completely
baffling the General's run defense. So that

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was good. I'm disappointed New Jersey
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should have, and they just kept
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and they just could not convert on
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really bad in the red zone and
that's something they got to fix. But

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they you know DeAndre Johnson, he's
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to prukop and they put in you
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too QB system. Obviously without Luis
Prez there, It's like, well,

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how reliable is that because Prez,
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was like eighty percent completion percentage,
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it matters. It's the same thing
in NFL too, Like once you

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get people playing together from multiple years, you see how in line everybody is

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with each other and how much chemistry
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takes years. It literally takes years
for this kind of stuff. Sometimes people

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click, but you gotta expect it
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one thing that's going for the USFL. Whether the XFL plays on that same

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note, I don't think that's their
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to export people into the NFL,
Like that's their whole gimmick like they want

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development and that's great. So in
that case, then how much can you

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really expect, you know, chemistry
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if they're going to come back.
That's you know, two very again,

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That's what I was talking about,
the two very different philosophies of the league,

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you know, two different products completely. I would say USL was the

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tale of two days Saturday. They
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then we're still going to get bad. And I have thoughts on that.

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Max has Max's pre cop was trash
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Stars for hummed? No, the
tie Cats are always hummed. The tie

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Cats are always humming. Not the
Stars, the Stars, but the Stars

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looks really good. I felt like, and you know, it's so fascinating

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me. And I thought about this
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gameplay everything else. You know,
we all based even you know, I

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I think everyone USFL last year,
everyone was still basing on XFL twenty twenty,

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right, TV ratings, how many
people all this stuff? Nothing's ever

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going to give out live up to
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just because of the build and Vince
and the comeback and the money they spent,

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and you know, whether that was
too much money, everything else,

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all that whatever. Even now you
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half everything, right, half players, half coaches, half TV revenue,

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you know, networks, all these
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always going to be less than whatever
that was. So we're seeing this,

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you know, watered down, you
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year on TV raiding and Caesar crap. Right, we're seeing what XFL has

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now. Attendant stats crap, We're
seeing what XFL. You know, if

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XFL and USFL had both played last
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same thing about the XFL. But
we all had this like rose colored whatever

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in our head. And I do
think now we're at least I am adjusting

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to what is the new level of
what we should expect in these spring leagues,

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and it is very much less than
what we saw back in twenty twenty,

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if that makes sense. I really
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the gold standard in a lot of
ways. I mean, and you know,

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look, I think some of the
XFL players this year has actually been

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better than some of it in twenty
twenty. To be fairing didn't get to

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be ten weeks. You know,
they didn't get the full slate, and

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they didn't have all the development that
we've seen up to this point. But

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yeah, the ratings are never going
to be the same because, look,

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you had both networks in on this. You had Fox and ESPN on one

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league. That's the thing. And
now they've split up and they've basically marked

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their territory and they've said this is
our league and that's your league. Like

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that's kind of how it is.
That's why you're splitting resources, you're splitting

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eyeballs, you're splitting dedication to both
products, because that's just how it is

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now. It's not this shared entity
that everyone had. Vince McMahon's not here

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to like kind of bridge the gap
between both the fact the gap is just

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keeping getting wider and wider between the
fans and between all the enthusiasts for both

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sides or for just spring football in
general. It's very splitting, right,

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and Fox got that idea because it
worked. It worked in twenty twenty.

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They saw it and they said,
well, why don't we try that?

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You know, but we try it
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sense, like it's just circumstances.
I don't know if they would have done

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that if COVID didn't happen. I
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I really do believe that, because
you know they were getting ratings. Why

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would you give up a you know, two and a half two mill three

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spot? You know you wouldn't,
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it's it's sliding doors. You know, it's a it's a perfect world

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where everything survives and everything keeps together. And we still have you know,

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your La Wildcats and your New York
Guardians, you know, and your Tampa

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Bay Vipers. But you know that
doesn't exist anymore. And so it's interesting

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that you just have these two splits
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on some of the attendants, though, but I'll defer to you first,

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I'll toss, and then we'll get
back. We'll get that. It's always

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going to be an issue on here. It's always going to be an issue,

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and that's sorry. And normally,
you know, Andy and I do

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well we'll get to games here kind
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But this week there's just so much
going on in philosophical I'm really excited for

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the show on Friday. Mike's has
come here. USBL trolls are laughing at

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the xbld'd been with one point five
million ABC Saturday afternoon would be something USFL

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they abused under a million, or
the primetime game on Fox after all that

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promotion. I've i've I've seen the
preliminaries. I'm not saying they can't go

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up, but I have seen the
preliminaries for the USFL. We'll leave it

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at that. Texas Pete, there
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saying they, hey, yeah,
I mean so this is where I want

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to get into this. And then
Andy has thoughts on the you know,

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attendance, everything else USFL turning on. I watched the entire Showboats game,

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I watched half the General's game,
and then I watched most of the Gamblers

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game yesterday, so I probably watched
seventy percent of the USFL games this weekend

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in completion, and then I caught
up on the BCAUD highlights. It is

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like putting on in the old pair
of jeans Fox. I think their broadcast

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is unmatched. I think it's stupendous. I think they have learned we're not

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going to show the crowd as much. The broadcast is great, it's shot

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great produced. The talent you got
Kurt, you know, you got Joel

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all like it is. You know, we got the music, we have

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EO NFL everything, it feels so
familiar. And I think if you put

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on that show Boats game and you
know, if you didn't know it was

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a Saturday in April and you thought
it was a Saturday in October, like

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you know, I mean, yeah, crowd like I don't, it just

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feels you know what it is,
right, But it's it's no personality.

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There's no personality. It's safe.
This is what we have. It is

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football on the field. You like
football on the field. The XFL.

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I don't always like the personality that
they have right now, right I think

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the XFL portrays itself is far too
serious. It's far too serious of what

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it's so removed from. You know, it was the extreme league back in

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No One then it was like kind
of the really fun like we want the

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fans involved in everything now like we
kind of want that, but we're also

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like we're really serious, like we're
really this is like, we're really professional.

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I don't always like that personality,
but at least the XFL has that,

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And so whether you like that or
not, that's kind of how I

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see the differences I see. You
know, Fox it's so clean, it's

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so pol is like, this is
what we're doing. We don't involve anyone,

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you know, we don't need anyone
but Fox where they where they XFL

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is very much. It just more
we're kind of feeling our way outs here.

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We're evolving, what the challenges,
we're figuring out the rules. ESPN's

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not right all the time, like
we're trying to work through any thoughts on

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00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.920
that, Eddie, No, I
agree. And honestly, the quality kind

408
00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:26.279
of varies from broadcast broadcast on ESPN
because some crews seem to understand how to

409
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:30.680
utilize the audio feature as far as
getting the coaches talking and getting what kind

410
00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:34.960
of feed they need, while the
broadcasters they're talking and some are not as

411
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.200
good at it. Fox is way
better. Yeah, the Fox broadcast,

412
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.240
you could hear it. We're still
getting the over it's like a zoom call.

413
00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.480
We're still getting the overlapping on Fox
where we're kind of hearing parts of

414
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.720
the calls and we're hearing all that
stuff. Yeah, they mix a little

415
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.480
bit better there. And also,
look there's a certain experience in ESPN or

416
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.880
experiments. Yeah, that haven't really
worked. Like sometimes, you know,

417
00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:00.920
talking to a fan great, awesome, getting the trowing to talk for an

418
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.400
entire quarter, I don't really need
that. Like, I like him.

419
00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.519
I'm glad he's involved. Maybe doing
the sideline interviews is cool. Like when

420
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.759
he talked to I think it was
Darius Slay, I think it was earlier

421
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.799
this year at the Houston game.
Cool. I'm like that that was that's

422
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:17.119
good. But he's constant involvement in
one quarter and trying to do play by

423
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:19.720
play breakdown. I don't you know, I don't think that was really much

424
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.279
of a success. So, you
know, I know they're trying to feel

425
00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:25.559
things out, they're trying to experiment, and that's the thing. It's so

426
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.200
very very much feels like a Petrie
dish with them. It does not feel

427
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.559
that way with USFL. It's like
they kind of knew what they were doing

428
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.599
from the beginning, even last year, and they had a plan and a

429
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.039
structure in place. Whether you like
it or not is up to you,

430
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:37.680
But like that's kind of how it
is. ESPN. They're still sort of

431
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.799
like picking and choosing and trying to
figure it out as far as like what

432
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.400
they're going to do going forward,
and so you're gonna have some hit and

433
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.400
miss moments, you really are.
And I felt that way too. Were

434
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.400
the times where I'm like, really, do we really need to be hearing

435
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.480
this or do I do we need
to be talking about this specific thing at

436
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.599
this moment, Like I've had that
reaction a couple of times. Yeah,

437
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.839
I don't think. I don't know
if we talked. I know I tweeted

438
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.119
about it. I don't know if
we talked about the destroying of it all

439
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:08.119
of Like I understand he has five
million subscribers. Find me some of that

440
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.680
has five million subscribers talking about your
XFL league, and then we can have

441
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:18.079
a conversation here like I hate this
Wwe did it for years and it's such

442
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:22.279
a like we're a niche thing and
we're gonna bring in like Good Morning Football

443
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.359
did it. This year they gave
one of their trophies to one of the

444
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.839
NBA commentators because like, oh,
we can get a little bit of reb

445
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:32.440
Like I hate that. I understand
wanting to broaden whatever. I don't think

446
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.359
one single person watched that show and
said I want to you know, I

447
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.240
know, destroying, I'm gonna watch
any of this stuff. Like I get

448
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.599
he's an ambassador for the game and
all of that, but that's that's another

449
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:47.839
like XFL thing, Like uh yeah, USFL has to interviewed Doug Peterson on

450
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.440
the sidelines because his son is in
the game. Xfls like please destroy and

451
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.680
like, please talk about this on
your YouTube channel. We would really appreciate

452
00:27:53.759 --> 00:28:00.440
that. Yeah, No, I
mean it's it's it's catering and they're trying

453
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.359
to get other people involved. They're
trying to get as many different kinds of

454
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:04.960
people involved. And I get that
you want to grow your audience expanded.

455
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:10.839
And I complimented them on having him
earlier in the year with the silent interviews,

456
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:14.440
But when it comes to the professional
product, you know, like I

457
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.880
don't I know, I've made light
of the CFL for not getting other you

458
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.839
know, the younger demographic involved sometimes, but at least I can tell like

459
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:25.279
there's a very professional attitude when it
comes to their presentation of their product,

460
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:26.839
which you need to have. You
need to be able to balance both.

461
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:32.240
You know, there has to be
some sort of level of professionalism but also

462
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.759
have fun. And it's kind of
trying to balance that out is really hard.

463
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.960
It's really hard to get both of
those. I just had to come

464
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.440
here and I know you have attendant
stuff, and then we will talk about

465
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.319
games. Smack says. At least
he's showing it to actually made content with

466
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.359
the XL and that's fine. This
was how us BELT felt like a church

467
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.559
on Sunday, actually felt like a
party. That was the thing. I

468
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.400
thought the USFL very much one Saturday, if you want to call it that,

469
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.079
right, Yeah, the games were
good for the XFL. You know

470
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:04.400
I'm looking on here. You know, the Vegas Houston game not not as

471
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:10.119
consequential, right as some of these. Uh and obviously we had the Orlando,

472
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:12.400
you know, the Brahma's game,
but you know you had to kick

473
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:17.680
off here and all that stuff.
Sunday, having both empty crowds for for

474
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.599
USFL with you know the party that
was DC and then Saint Louis and then

475
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:26.559
throwing the pissie party over losing at
home, which I really did enjoy you

476
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:32.559
could when when when Benda Nucci through
that touchdown to Jakar Pearson, you could,

477
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:34.519
I mean you could hear a pin
drop in that battledome And I tweeted

478
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.799
that like pretty damn quiet in here
right now. What are your thoughts on

479
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.559
attendance? Andy, and then we'll
kind of chat through shoot through some of

480
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:48.240
these games. Okay, So here's
my thing. Listen. I I've had

481
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:55.559
number of occasions people referencing on Saturday
the audio of Kurt Menifee saying, oh,

482
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.799
well, the mentis attendance was round
thirty k. I'm like, that's

483
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.279
an accurate number. That's not an
accurate number. I don't know where he's

484
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:06.359
getting that number from. We have
had no confirmation of that number. I

485
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.319
haven't heard one thing about it being
around thirty k in any way, shape

486
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.559
or form from anybody and any of
our channels. I don't want to hear

487
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.759
about it being thirty thousand people in
that stadium. I don't know what it

488
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.640
is. Because I look out a
TV there seems to be a decent amount

489
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.559
of people. We don't have an
accurate reading. I don't want that to

490
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:26.079
be gospel. I just don't want
this blatant lyning of attendance numbers. Okay,

491
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.440
like the XFL has numbers. They
have the attendance, whether you like

492
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.359
it or not, or whether you
like how much people are going whatever.

493
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.160
You know, if it's lackluster,
you can discuss all that after the fact,

494
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:42.480
But not why the USFL refuses to
give these numbers out is kind of

495
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:47.839
baffling, honestly. And I get
like they understand that there's not going to

496
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:49.640
be as many people at the games
that don't have home teams, right,

497
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:55.000
that's just the fact in the matter. But you know, like that's just

498
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.160
how it is. Like you could
I want you to be as accommonable for

499
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.359
each side and say, like,
look, if you're going to announce those

500
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:06.039
numbers officially, then announce them or
stay around thirty thousand, then say there's

501
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:07.559
around two hundred people in the game
too. I know you're not going to

502
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.559
because you want to trump at your
own product, But like I just it's

503
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.079
just blatant deceiving and I don't like
that. I really don't like it.

504
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.799
And I don't like people following it
and treat it like it's gospel because it's

505
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:23.720
not. And I don't like it. And also listen the whole attendancing.

506
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.200
It does affect the product, you
know, like there's not as much energy,

507
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.960
there's not as much focused, there's
not as much attention. Like you

508
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.839
say what you want about the XFL
and their attendance numbers. Those people like

509
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.640
show up and care. Those people
are maniacs, you know. DC fans

510
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.000
are mediac Saint Louis fans or mediacs. Even people in like the smaller stadiums.

511
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:41.359
You know, even though in San
Antonio hasn't gotten as much, I

512
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.680
still see those people having a good
time. They're still caring a lot about

513
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.680
the product. I see a lot
of enthusiasm and energy in those crowds.

514
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.160
It matters a lot, and it
adds to the product. When there's you

515
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.839
know, there's seventy people the stands
in the USFL, it takes away from

516
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.400
it a little bit. That's just
how it is support life. Sports is

517
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.599
meant to be played with energy.
I don't go back, I really don't

518
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:06.240
go back and watch any like sports
lights from twenty twenty, because that was

519
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:07.400
the time when there were no people
in the stands. It was weird.

520
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.240
It was really weird, and it
kind of reminds me of that a little

521
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.039
bit. Every time I see a
game, that's just a matter of the

522
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.799
fact. I just I get tired
because I saw that. I heard that.

523
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:20.799
I heard the through three thousand.
I've had it sent and I know

524
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.880
like people are going to live gospel
with that forever. And it's fine again

525
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:28.400
if it's I don't care if it's
twenty thousand. If it's twenty it was

526
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.839
still a great crowd. And I
get I see I always get a lot

527
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:31.799
of comments in here. I see
a lot of comments, and people go

528
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:35.640
like, why does that matter?
Why does this matter? This is?

529
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.000
This is why this matters. Is
because when I put out the poll last

530
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:43.039
week, because the XFL or US
are always talking you know, real football,

531
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.920
and we're real Football's coming back,
and I tweeted, I was I

532
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:50.680
was drinking at the girls concert in
Las Vegas. I tweeted. When I

533
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.480
think of real football, I think
of and when you have thirty four thousand

534
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:58.759
impressions and almost three thousand people with
seventy two percent of people voting for the

535
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.119
XFL, it is because the USFL
does not have fans in their stands and

536
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.440
because they played in the hubs last
year. Now they are working towards changing

537
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.160
that they're doing a good job.
I guess I thought Memphis looks really good.

538
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.160
We'll see what Detroit looks like and
can't and all that. But this

539
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.079
is why all they care about is
TV. Didn't that It is because there's

540
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:22.079
a public perception, right or wrong, that the USFL is not real football

541
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.240
because they don't play in their home
markets. And even if there's six thousand

542
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:29.839
people at Cashman Field in Las Vegas
paying to watch the Vegas Vipers play,

543
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.119
they're at least paying to watch the
Vegas Vipers play there. And that's what

544
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:37.119
people need to understand. I understand
that Fox has a different business model,

545
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.599
but there's still the perception behind it. And that is why it's because I

546
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.000
mean, that's that way crazy.
When I know, I was like,

547
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.720
I'll be lucky if it's fifty to
fifty, And the next thing I know,

548
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:46.680
I turn on after the content,
I was like, oh my god.

549
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.799
But that is why that is why
it's important. Yeah. Then and

550
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:53.440
again, it's just presentation, right, It's about presentation. Look, at

551
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.359
the end of the day, this
is an entertainment product. Now, we

552
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.960
care very much about the football.
We care about the quality of the football.

553
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:04.920
We all do but at the end
of the day, it's a product

554
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.440
that it has to entertain the public. You know, I say that about

555
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.239
the NFL. The NFL has become
less about the football. It's become more

556
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.039
about the entertainment aspect of everything.
It really has. Like that's just how

557
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.440
it is. They want points,
they want you know, certain players to

558
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.719
get certain concessions over the others because
they want their stars to play well and

559
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.800
they want their stars to get all
the stats. Like that's just that's how

560
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:28.199
it is. And I think it's
the same way we hear like, you

561
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:32.039
know, the XFL. I'll be
honest, like I think they were maybe

562
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:36.400
a little lenient at the end with
that Renegates game with the PI call and

563
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.559
then obviously like the challenge was correct
with the hold. But I mean,

564
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:42.760
obviously they would love that to be
a thrilling game to the end of like

565
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.400
a thrilling finish, and then you
get into the overtime aspect of it again,

566
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.880
So you know that's something that they
are they're going to trumpet and say,

567
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.360
look, here's our overtime rules to
look how it works. You know,

568
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:53.920
this team had a chance, they
were dead and gone. It looked

569
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:57.719
like they were out of it.
They were down by eleven points in the

570
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.199
fourth quarter, and they figured it
out and they won the game, or

571
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:01.599
they won excuse me, they tied
the game and they went in overtime.

572
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.039
They lost, but like they had
a chance. You know, you want

573
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.960
to be able to have things like
that happened in your game. With USFL,

574
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.719
it's not really predicated on that as
much. You know, it's still

575
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.440
about opportunities of course. But and
that's the other thing I want to say

576
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:21.199
philosophically about the player roster construction.
Look, as I said, we've talked

577
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.159
about all season. The XFL wants
to get their players out the door and

578
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:28.079
into the NFL. The USFL,
I feel like it's a security blanket,

579
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.480
like it's it's with players that know
maybe that they need to have that job

580
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:35.360
security and they have something they can
come back to if they get in the

581
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:38.199
NFL. Great, the timeline,
the schedule, the calendar, We've talked

582
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:42.519
about that a million times. It's
just it's a little harder for them to

583
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.840
get into these camps, get into
camps and be able to contribute after the

584
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.239
you know, the USFL season ends. It was easier for them, honestly

585
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.840
to go into another league, like
you know, the CFL or something of

586
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:53.360
that nature, but of course they
have their contracts with the USFL, so

587
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:55.880
it's harder for them to transition.
There's a lot going on with that.

588
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:00.280
But USFL feels like they're security in
that right, Like there's an o y

589
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:01.840
for them to just kind of be
able to come back and like, hey,

590
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.400
you know, you didn't make an
the NFL. That's too bad,

591
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.800
but you know, we're always come
welcome you back into the end of the

592
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.440
team. Like it really feels like
that. There's why there's a decent amount

593
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:14.000
of holdovers here still in the USFL
that I remember from last season. Again,

594
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.679
continuity is really important because now I'm
like, oh, I'm familiar with

595
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:17.880
this person, I know who this
player is, I know what they do,

596
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.519
and that's good, that's good for
the league. But there's just you

597
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:23.960
have to consider that those are like
the two separate things going on here is

598
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:28.880
maybe the philosophy of well these players
are considering when they go into both leagues.

599
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:35.440
Darren Workman wins It Wins wins the
Ward today for the best comment.

600
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.480
Darren. I want to I want
to say, Darren, if you DM

601
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:43.760
DM me, your address. I'll
send you a spring league warm up practice

602
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.079
squad Jersey here. Terren gets this
one. I wonder if MVD felt at

603
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.639
home but no fans in the stands
in Birmingham like it was BMA Field in

604
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:55.559
Toronto. Wow, Oh, Darren, that made me check on Darren,

605
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:00.440
That made me checko. Speaking of
and I have I haven't here? What

606
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.000
did oh Andy? Do you have
something I want to talk about McCloud.

607
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.280
No, well, I was gonna
talk about McCloud, so you go ahead,

608
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.039
So no, so hey, yeah, how they how did my boy

609
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:08.800
McLeod do? I watched half the
game. I turned it on. I

610
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:13.119
saw him get rocked with the sack. I saw him throw the ball past

611
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.480
the line of scrimmage, and then
I saw Kurt Menefee make fun of him

612
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.440
for playing with the metric system because
he is Canadian, which I did not

613
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.360
appreciate. See this is the thing, like I don't hate, we do

614
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:28.280
not hate on Canadian players like Kurt
Menefee making fun of mccaud Beldo Thompson for

615
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.400
like playing with the metric system.
That is NFL people making fun of the

616
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:36.639
CFL. So how how did mccaud
do? Yeah, those are the people

617
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.320
the CFL people need to be going
after, not usum. But look the

618
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:45.639
McLeod. You know what, I
will say this, he was pretty inaccurate

619
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:47.880
at times. I mean he's obviously
figuring out chemistry of the receivers. He

620
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.719
got hit so many times that offensive
lines a problem. Great job by Rick

621
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.559
Sartella and Nick Vogl last week breaking
that down because they were right this offensive

622
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.559
lines. They gotta fix it.
They gotta find a way to get around

623
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.199
it. Now. So you know, as far as like completion percentage is

624
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:06.559
not great, But I will say
this, and I know this seems like

625
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.840
a very like cliche statement, but
he looks like a quarterback, Like he

626
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.719
looks very confident when he stands tall
in the pocket, he throws that sucker

627
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.840
down the field. He knows what
to do with the ball in his hands.

628
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.320
And I think a lot of that
comes from his practice and all of

629
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:24.119
his you know, four to two
to get through all of these times that

630
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:28.519
he had in the CFL and all
these other leagues. He looks like a

631
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:30.679
seasoned veteran out there. Like I
can tell immediately as he stepped on the

632
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.320
field, like, oh he gets
it, Like he has the right tendencies,

633
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.239
the right attitude, he has the
pedigree like it just I felt it

634
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:43.199
as soon as he got on the
field, and you know, all things

635
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:47.280
considered, I think he ended up
playing better than he started. And you

636
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:52.719
know, I think all that practice
CFL really paid off because some of his

637
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.719
down field throws were great. That's
some of the best throwing I've seen on

638
00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:00.480
the Breakers since they started, you
know, compared to what we saw last

639
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.880
year with them. So for McLeod
Bethel Thompson, that's a great honestly,

640
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.039
Like that's as good as the debuts
you could probably ask for, just based

641
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.000
on all the medigating factors of getting
acclimated to a new team, a new

642
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.079
system, coming back to the States. Being with John d. Filippo,

643
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.440
I think hopefully we continue to see
more development going forward, but I think

644
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:23.760
he ended up doing all right overall. How did how did the Maulers fair

645
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:28.320
here? Maulers that you are famously
the worst team and in all of the

646
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.000
spring football history here, how did
the Malers do? Yeah? I mean

647
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:36.559
they still can't block and James Morgan
looked lost. They were just completely shot

648
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.280
on offense. I know they got
a big punt return at one point and

649
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.599
they just I don't know, it
feels kind of like the same team as

650
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.239
the last year. They can't really
do much on offense, and I don't

651
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:49.559
know really how much involved in the
game they are. I know the defense

652
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.920
made some big plays and they were
able to get a couple. Like I

653
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:58.119
said, they just went after mclaude
Bethel Thompson all game long, and he

654
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:02.519
got hit so much, but so
did It's Morgan, so honestly, honestly,

655
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:07.960
I don't know if it really matters
as much for them going forward as

656
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.719
far as like who their starter is. It may not matter a quarterback,

657
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.320
because they just feel like kind of
the same team. And I feel bad

658
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:17.719
because you know, like obviously they're
they're trying their damned this with Ray Hornen

659
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.639
in there as their new head coach. But I don't know as well.

660
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.239
I mean, I think not having
the distraction that as Kirby Wilson helps,

661
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:29.159
not having that sort of in the
background the entire time. So we'll see

662
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.639
if they can pull something together.
But I don't know, them and the

663
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:36.159
Gamblers both just feel kind of the
same place that they were last year.

664
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.239
A team that could improve a lot. As the Michigan I think the Michigan

665
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.440
Panthers can get a little bit better. Josh Love look really good yesterday.

666
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.920
But yeah, some of these other
franchises they were in the basement last year.

667
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.199
Kind of feels stuck in the same
same mold. I had to come

668
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.960
me here, Kyle says. At
least at least macau can measure. I

669
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:57.000
just I'm just seeing a lot of
Eric's kind of going crazy here in the

670
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.880
chat. Eric's talking about bias and
you're not a football fans determined to watch

671
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.679
a game best on how many people
are in the stadium. I will tell

672
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.199
you many football fans, and I, of course play with them in the

673
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.559
last two years, very much decide
whether or not they enjoy a game.

674
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:13.199
Of that, I am glad that
you don't. I know many people that

675
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.760
don't. I also know very many
people that do. So I would not

676
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.440
say that you were, I would
not qualify anything of that you were not.

677
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.159
But this is funny, John Christians, are you still a fan of

678
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:27.760
the drone camp? Definitely noticed there
was no drone cam in Memphis and that

679
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.960
the second we got to Birmingham,
I totally forgot. I'm like, oh

680
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:35.400
my god, oh my god.
The drones back. I don't think they

681
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:39.639
need it. I think I thought
the camera work in the DC game yesterday

682
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.039
with the back and forth, I
thought that was good. I think if

683
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.280
ESPN, I think Fox did.
I guess it did well. With the

684
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.559
Memphis game, I think you can
get away with the drone. I don't

685
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.000
think we need that, and I
think that the Memphis did a far better

686
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:58.079
job of photographing videographing that stadium without
showing. I think the drones just shows

687
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:00.159
too many empty shop It shows too
many empty seats, It's too loud,

688
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.039
it gets in the way. Like, I do you have any thoughts on

689
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.760
the drune. It still sounds like
I'm at my dentist office. Every time

690
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.920
I hear that drone, it just
sounds like worring machines in the background.

691
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.800
Yeah, it really does. That's
the first thing I thought the first time

692
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:15.280
I heard it, and I still
think that. I think you've got to

693
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.559
save that for games when there's actual
fans, you know, I really do,

694
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:22.159
you know. I mean, if
they had it during Memphis, I

695
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.039
guess it would have been okay,
But like, maybe you have it more

696
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:25.960
on the periphery, on the outside, so we don't hear it. On

697
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.239
the field the entire time. Maybe
you don't have to have it behind the

698
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.079
players the entire time. I do
still like the camera that they have on

699
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.119
the player helmet that when he makes
a play, like I think they had

700
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.559
that in the Birmingham game where a
guy got a fumble recovery, it's just

701
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:38.920
like, oh, the balls on
the ground, like this is what like

702
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.639
the process of him like diving for
the ball. That's kind of cool.

703
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.239
I still like that a lot.
But yeah, they could do away with

704
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:50.000
the drune camp. But look,
here's the thing again, Like I'm not

705
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.480
trying to criticize the football at all, Like the football is of good enough

706
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.599
quality. It's just I'm telling you
about the overall presentation of the product.

707
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.719
Like that's just how it is.
Sometimes it's just a little it's a little

708
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:05.440
strange not having the people there to
cheer on and having also fake crowd noise

709
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.599
pumped in, which still drives me
nuts. Uh. You know, for

710
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.800
once, I actually agreed with with
you know, Michael Baldsley about something because

711
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.159
he was going after it this weekend
about their fake crowd noise pumped in for

712
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:22.559
two hundred people and in the Breakers
game, and you know, like I'm

713
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.480
not. It's it's not a presentation
like thought something I would put in the

714
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.400
presentation. But I get their idea
of like trying to establish atmosphere, but

715
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:32.320
it just feels fabricated, you know, And that's something I I want the

716
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:37.559
USFL also to be a little bit
careful about their slight fabrication of certain things

717
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.719
like you know that. And also
again the around thirty k attendance thing.

718
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.280
Also a couple of things that Darren
Johnson talk about. You know, look,

719
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.599
I didn't get on about this last
week, but the guy apparently,

720
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:52.280
you know, I saw that guy
get after the kickoff rules about the XFL

721
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.960
and call them really you know,
not not not um you know, basically

722
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.360
not dogging the entire kickoff, which
is funny because he wasn't doing that three

723
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.039
years ago when he was involved with
the XFL. So for him to change

724
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.079
changed to it is very interesting.
I know he's trumpeting in the USFL,

725
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.360
but it seemed a little disingenuous.
And I'll say this also about the kickoff.

726
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.760
I don't like it the USFL kickoff. It's too far back. It

727
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.599
feels like those yards are just free, those are free yards for everybody to

728
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:19.760
play with you can get to the
forty yard line like it's no problem,

729
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.559
and it feels it doesn't feel earned. You can say what you want about

730
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.960
the XFL kickoff and the rules of
it. I still feel like there's a

731
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.719
strategy and there's an earning of those
yards on the field. The USFL kickoff

732
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.719
is too far back. Twenty five
was fine, you know, twenty five

733
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.599
is okay. Twenty is too far
back. They got to put it back

734
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:39.639
up a little bit because it just
feels like, like you said it,

735
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:43.440
I think our group chat a couple
of days ago, like it just feels

736
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:46.440
like, you know, I don't
think I think Chris Rowland was touched and

737
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.239
tell like the forty yard line a
couple of times in the Philadelphia game like

738
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.000
that. That's really tough for a
kickoff un a kickoff coverage and it feels

739
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.039
like just almost getting the midfield almost
every single time it happens. Yeah,

740
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.599
I hate it. I hate the
kickof off. And that was something again

741
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:04.760
I don't you know, I am
and I've said I am not the football

742
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.320
expert, right, I bring on
smart people to talk about all this up.

743
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:08.760
Yeah, I'm like, okay,
that makes sense, Like it's you

744
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:10.760
know they want to do it.
They don't, you know, like they

745
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:15.320
don't want to do the l which
is so weird because like we want to

746
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:16.880
steal all these other rules, and
it is you know, it's stealing,

747
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:21.440
it's borrowing whatever. I want to
borrow all these other rules from the XFL.

748
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:23.119
We don't want to do the kickoff
because that's their thing. We can't

749
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.280
do that. We're moving it.
Yeah, I was. I was dming

750
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.440
with the creator of the XFL kickoff
over the weekend. I think, did

751
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:32.039
you see that the USFL is kicking
off from the twenty yard line? And

752
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:36.480
he said, wow, that is
that is very interesting. I said,

753
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.960
yeah, they're literally able to get
like the thirty five yard line without even

754
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:43.960
being touched. And then whatever else
you get from that, Uh, it's

755
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:47.360
fine. I mean it creates what
I think they need to say is not

756
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.880
we want to go from eighty percent
to ninety percent you know kick off,

757
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.400
you know people returning kickoffs. We
want to inflate our offense, and by

758
00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:00.360
starting teams at almost midfield, that
ensures we're going to get a lot more

759
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:04.239
scoring. Like that is why they
are doing it, right. Player safety

760
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.880
that might be a bystander kickoff return
completion. Now that might be a bystander.

761
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:12.280
They're doing it to inflate offenses.
They do, you disagree, No,

762
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.920
I agree, they do. I
mean it felt especially felt that way

763
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:21.840
during the Michigan game. During that
Michigan Houston game, it felt like everybody

764
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.840
had a free, free start at
midfield and just could go down the field.

765
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.320
And it's tough. I mean,
it's tough on defenses now because it's

766
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:29.280
like, oh, they're giving up
all these touchdowns, all these points.

767
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.000
It's like, well yeah, I
mean it's like it's like starting a runner

768
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:37.519
at second base, Like that's that's
tough. And I feel I feel for

769
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.119
the defenses and I feel for the
special teams units that don't really get like

770
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.599
that kind of practice it because like
once you get to the NFL, that's

771
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:45.280
not gonna be the case. You
know, first of all, there's no

772
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.000
kick like, no one returns a
kickoff anyways, which I understand you want

773
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.400
to see more kickoffs, great,
but don't just give them yard. It's

774
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.639
like that you we got to still
earn it, you know, you still

775
00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:00.000
have to earn the field position that
you get. So yeah, it doesn't

776
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:05.519
feel like and it makes drives in
my opinion, a little less special,

777
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.960
Like it's really special when a team, you know, drives ninety yards,

778
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:13.679
Like going from ninety yards or eighty
yards, it's really cool. When a

779
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:15.599
team is able to drive the length
of the field, it's you know,

780
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:21.400
it's debilitating for another team when you're
a road team, Like seeing Seattle have

781
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:25.159
those sustained drives against against Saint Louis
in that game yesterday, and also just

782
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.880
those big plays is like, whoa, Like that's demoralizing, it's it's and

783
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:36.000
so I want to see more.
I just wanted to be a little more

784
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.920
organic in terms of like seeing longer
sustained drives, but sent for some of

785
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.519
these offenses. I get you want
to have kickoffs. That's fine, there's

786
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.679
nothing wrong with that, but you
know, the percentages of like we need

787
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:47.760
to have more kickoffs. I think
Metafe was saying about that on the broadcast,

788
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:51.400
Like last year there's eighty around,
like eighty percent I think, and

789
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:52.440
then this year they want to get
up to ninety percent. It's like,

790
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.880
okay, but also what are the
quality of the kickoffs? You know,

791
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.119
that's the other thing. Let's consider
that as well. You want more are

792
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.159
great, but what is it doing
for the product. You know. Again,

793
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.960
that's my whole point in a lot
of the rule changes, talking here

794
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.280
about holding all that. I want
to get to because we talked a little

795
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.920
bit about the Malers. I do
want to get to. We talked cook

796
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.000
Us off the Top and the Stars. To me, they look like the

797
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.679
strongest team so far, right Case
and obviously he bounced around going to the

798
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:24.960
NFL. He was on the show, you know, I guess it was

799
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.920
a week or two before kickoff.
We have him on thoughts, any expanded

800
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.719
thoughts on Case, the Stars,
the show boats, you know, I

801
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.760
thought they looked decent in there are
any other thoughts on that? Yeah,

802
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.920
No, Like I said, Cookings
looked great. He made an excellent sideline

803
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.400
throw for his third touchdown. I
want to double check who it was.

804
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:49.559
I'm not sure if it was Jordan
Swool, I have to look. I

805
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:53.679
have to look it up again.
But just an amazing touchdown throw by him.

806
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:57.960
Later, Oh, I think it
was Devin Gray. I think that's

807
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.639
who was. Yeah. So he
that was incredible. Like again, he

808
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:05.400
just looked really confident. He ran
a lot. I was surprised by how

809
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:07.840
much he ran, especially with that
knee injury that he had last year.

810
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.840
He clearly wanted the show that it
had recovered and he looks great and if

811
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:14.239
he can run, If he can
run, I mean that adds another element

812
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.400
to their offense now because now you
have to worry about that. And it

813
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:21.800
really threw Memphis off that he was
able to do both again. I mean,

814
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.000
he can thrive in this offense,
and a guy like Brian Scott was

815
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:27.679
going to thrive in that offense last
year, but he got hurt and so

816
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.280
now it's cook As his turn to
really take advantage of that. You know,

817
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.880
I really like the Stars offense showboats. I don't think Rady White's it

818
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.320
man like. I mean, he
should have thrown more picks that one.

819
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:43.480
This to Channing stribbling was like a
Christmas gift, Like it almost looked like

820
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:47.239
he was trying to throw it to
him and not his own player. I

821
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.360
don't think this Raady White experiment it
works. But Cole Kelly was fine.

822
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:54.960
I mean he's a big boy,
but I don't see him really factor in

823
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:59.119
the offense. Again, Where's Ryan
Willis? You know, we need to

824
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:00.440
keep asking this question and over and
over again, where is this guy?

825
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.039
Because we've talked about him so much
for a guy that hasn't played a snap

826
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.960
in the XFL and has not played
a snap of the USFL yet, and

827
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.159
obviously played really well in the spring
league. What's going on with him?

828
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:13.480
We need to figure this out,
Like is he gonna get an opportunity at

829
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:17.239
some point, because it's just bizarre
considering how much we've talked about him and

830
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:22.000
how much it seems like he's worthy
of having it, having an opportunity.

831
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.760
But I don't know if that's going
to happen. Michigan. Like I said,

832
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:30.280
Jordan Love played great Josh Love and
not Jordan Love, not Green Bay

833
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.280
Packers quarterback, but Josh Love looked
really good. I hope that Carson Strong

834
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.159
can get involved. He was five
for five, so hopefully he can get

835
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.039
some more playing time. I hope
his knee holds up. You know,

836
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.280
there's still a lot of players left
to be considered. How much play,

837
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:46.639
how much of these quarterbacks are going
to come in and out of these games.

838
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:51.559
It's gonna be interesting. Obviously the
XFL it varied, like some teams

839
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:53.320
had to and some teams chose not
to at all. Like obviously, if

840
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:57.440
you're Sat Louis you're not taking aj
McCarron out of the game, right if

841
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.920
you're the Sea Dragons, you're not
taking Ben to New she out. You're

842
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.840
not taking some of these quarterbacks out. So we'll see what happens. But

843
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.599
overall, I mean, I think
he was a decent start to the slate

844
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:13.840
and I'm just curious, like,
I still think I still think mccad Bethel

845
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.480
Thompson has a chance to be one
of the best quarterbacks in the league just

846
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:21.440
based on his pedigree and based on
his knowledge of the offense and his skill

847
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.000
set. I think he can still
do it. So it might be him

848
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:27.960
and Cooks maybe at the top of
the heat by the end of the season.

849
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.480
I had a question here. Lots
of comments about you have the Showboats

850
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:37.199
and do we like the I think
a lot of people say the Showboats Brandy

851
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.159
and favorite Brandy, and then Dorothy
walks in and she goes, that is

852
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.840
really ugly, So where do you
land on that? And then I have

853
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.039
I have my more serious question because
I had a question I forgot and that

854
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.920
was my follow up. But I
do have any more serious football question.

855
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.559
No, I'm fine with it.
I mean, it's I like it just

856
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:58.320
based on. It's like it's a
color that doesn't really match with a lot

857
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:02.000
of other teams, and I like
branding. I mean, it's sort of

858
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:07.559
similar to the fleet with like the
whole maritime theme that I had with the

859
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.519
San Diego Fleet. But I like
it overall. I actually I'm fine with

860
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:14.119
the uniforms. I thought the uniform
matchup was actually pretty good with that in

861
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.039
Philadelphia on Saturday. So I don't
find it the ugly at all. It's

862
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:21.719
just a matter of can can the
the fan base, you know, buy

863
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.760
into the Memphis brand again. You
know, it's been four decades. Let's

864
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:29.519
see if they can get back into
it. I'll get Yeah, two things.

865
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:30.320
So now I have two follow ups
for that. So I did.

866
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.840
I like the fact that we are
now going back, like we can talk

867
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:38.199
about the old USFL right because last
year we have the lawsuits and we can't

868
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:42.480
talk about all that suff So I
like that. But then it's also so

869
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:45.119
weird. Were like the Showboats score
and then he goes, this is the

870
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:50.920
first Showboats touchdown in four decades.
You're like, I don't. I don't

871
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:52.880
like I like showing the staff and
like, okay, we're back here.

872
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.519
We have history of all that,
but you know, like we're we're you

873
00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:00.440
know, we're carrying over stats or
like you know that this is the first

874
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.000
professional I think this is the first
professional football that's in Memphis in like four

875
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:09.599
decades. You're forgetting XFL O one
cfl AF like, so you know,

876
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:13.480
we want to really embrace history to
what do you make of that? And

877
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:15.239
this now we're like, I do
think we're gonna be like all in on

878
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:17.480
history of this year, like we
couldn't do it before, We're gonna be

879
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:21.480
all in. If I'm not mistaken. I believe the Titans also played a

880
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:23.800
game there before they actually officially moved
to Nashville, So let's not forget that

881
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:27.480
too. That's what I'm talking about
with the USFL thing. It's just like

882
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.000
a racing history. It's like revisionist
history. I do not care for it.

883
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:35.199
Like you if you don't want to
like specifically talk about a certain thing,

884
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.719
fine, that's okay. Like the
XFL doesn't talk about XFL two thousand

885
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:43.159
and one at all at all.
I barely mentioned twenty twenty. Like they

886
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.880
almost don't even acknowledge that. They
treat themselves as the new entity, but

887
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:49.880
they're not going on being like,
oh, this is you know, the

888
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:52.480
first time since this or this has
never happened before. It's like, no,

889
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:54.039
it clearly has, like we know
it has. We're not dumb,

890
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:58.079
like we can look it up.
And that's the thing about the USFL.

891
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:02.400
They really treat it like they just
there's like no previous history of like professional

892
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:07.960
football in any way, shape or
former capacity. And I just think it's

893
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:12.760
it's it's silly, like just don't
try to blatantly erase it. That's that's

894
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:14.480
all I ask you to do.
If you say, like, oh,

895
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:19.280
this is the first Memphis Showboats touchdown
in four decades, Okay, that's fine,

896
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:21.920
no problem with that. I get
it. That's cute. I get

897
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:23.039
it. Now. You can acknowledge
that history. But don't say it's the

898
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:29.920
first professional like score than four decades, because that's not true and you can't.

899
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:34.519
It's it's just not straight up.
My other question, my real football

900
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.519
question. So we you talked.
You know, we're doing the Dueling Quarterbacks

901
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:39.440
ride and some of it's by design, some of it's to give them play

902
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:43.599
time. And it's week one,
you know XFL. We've seen some of

903
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:45.679
the team's ride. You know,
we got to new to all of this

904
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:50.400
stuff. You know, XFL,
they're they're really talking. You know,

905
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:52.840
we want these guys to get back
to the NFL, but so is the

906
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:54.920
USFL has really had that monster right
and we were champion. Come on,

907
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:59.559
teacher, but do you see are
they the same, better, worse?

908
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.840
And these coaches, you know,
are are we playing for competition or are

909
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:09.960
we playing for tape? For these
guys, it's I mean, I think

910
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.760
it's both. Um, I mean, there's still tape. Obviously, you're

911
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:19.199
still getting opportunities for players who need
to have them. Obviously in USFL does

912
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:22.280
have a handful of guys like that. Obviously we talked about Carson Strong for

913
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:25.440
example, he needs to get back
into onto the horse. But you know,

914
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.119
I mean, you do want to
win. I mean the XFL.

915
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:31.280
That's the interesting thing. I still
feel like in the XFL they still want

916
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:35.480
to win, Like they still are
very adamant about winning, despite you know,

917
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:37.039
some of the concessions about like okay, well some of these guys are

918
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.719
gonna move on. I mean,
again, as I've said a million times,

919
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:45.800
Anthony Back talked about that in the
showcase in Arizona. But you clearly

920
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:50.039
see that he wants to win with
Saint Louis the USFL, I mean,

921
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:53.639
I presume it's the same thing.
Obviously, you want them to have that

922
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:58.079
same level of competitive spirit, and
you know, I think it's just a

923
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:00.239
matter of like how how are they
conducting themselves, how they running the show.

924
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:04.199
I mean, I'm sure Birmingham's proud
of their championship last year, you

925
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:08.880
know, but I still think that
it's just a matter of how do you

926
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:14.519
treat yourself in conjunction with the other
league. You know, like how much

927
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.760
are you really trumpeting the players that
you have and where they're going? You

928
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.400
know, the same thing with the
CFL. The CFL I still think struggles

929
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.960
with that too, where you know, they want to so desperately keep high

930
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:28.639
end talent, but they have to
concede that they're going to go somewhere else.

931
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:30.880
And the Nathan work thing last year
obviously was really tough for BC fans

932
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.920
because it's like, all right,
well, we want him to do really

933
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.400
well, but we also really want
to hold on to him and like keep

934
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.360
him forever, but it's like that's
not going to happen. The USFL needs

935
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:44.360
to like think about that as well. Where where do they stand with in

936
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:47.880
terms of like being competitive, being
successful, but also wishing the best for

937
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:51.519
the players that move on somewhere else. It's it's a fine line, and

938
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:53.400
I think every league is still kind
of struggling with it a little bit,

939
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:57.480
some of these lower Okay, I
shouldn't say lower leagues, but like other

940
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:00.119
leagues, like I don't see that
problem in like Fan Control Football, for

941
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:01.440
example, they're like, hell,
yeah, our guys doing great in another

942
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:05.519
league. Awesome. You know,
it's a very different mentality. I don't

943
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:07.679
feel that way with CFLUFL, XFL. It's kind of more like, oh,

944
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.840
they're they're over now there now,
you know, it's not as much

945
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.039
trumpeting about that player. So it's
it's a lot to consider. Yeah,

946
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:21.960
a non MFL, minor league,
American football leagues. We're not getting into

947
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.079
the CFL here far on. No, Yeah, that was wild with that,

948
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:27.639
That was really run. I did
see a comment we'll get into this.

949
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.760
I know you gotta get out of
here. We did have a comment,

950
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.679
Um, Fox does not seem to
be talking as much about players wanting

951
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:36.800
to go to the MFL like the
XFL with that has been the complaint all

952
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:39.360
season, Like, well, this
guy did like it does seem like Foxes

953
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:44.239
where we're playing this game that you
know, come watch that. I want

954
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:46.599
to get any final thoughts on h
you know, we tied a little bit

955
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:52.000
Birmingham Generals. Uh. I was
surprised, and we'll get to football that

956
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:57.840
there was not nearly as many people
there come around the especially after hoisting the

957
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.039
we had the banner, we got
the trophy, and the thoughts on that

958
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.639
and then and then the game.
I guess said, were you Generals who

959
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:07.320
were missing Louis Press any other thoughts
on this game? Yeah, I was

960
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.920
quite frankly, I was surprised there
were so many tarps in the stadium.

961
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.039
Yeah, those were not there when
we went last year, you know.

962
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.039
And yes we did go there,
by the way, for anyone wondering,

963
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:21.199
we were actually there in person,
in the flesh, just reminding everybody.

964
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:27.599
But I don't remember there being as
many people there on Saturday as they were

965
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:31.880
last year. That's fascinating because you
think like home opener, defending champions,

966
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:37.039
your two of the league. You've
got players that you remember from you know,

967
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:39.480
coming back, both your quarterbacks,
a lot of your defense, you

968
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:44.400
know, Scooby Wright, some of
the receivers like I mean a lot of

969
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:47.400
familiarity, and yet it didn't seem
like there was as many people there and

970
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:52.400
the home opener this time around,
which is fascinating. I I don't know

971
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.400
what's going on with that. I
thought Birmingham was like all gun hoe that

972
00:58:55.400 --> 00:59:00.199
they had their team back. But
I don't know. Man, It's it's

973
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:04.000
interesting. I I but you know, I'm sure people will tell me that

974
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:06.679
there were like forty thousand people in
the stands of the entire year or so.

975
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:08.599
I'll have to just take that with
a grain of salt. But I

976
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:14.920
think it's it. I just I
wonder what the enthusiasm level of these markets

977
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.320
is. You have to consider that
every single time. It's really funny considering

978
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:22.039
like no, the XFL, as
soon as we see one bad we see

979
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:23.199
like one bad crowd, We're like, get him out of the team,

980
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:24.599
you know, get him out of
here. We got to go to a

981
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:30.280
different city, Like yeah, like
a port mission, We're out of here,

982
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:34.559
and and and and. In the
USFL, it's not that case.

983
00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:37.000
It's just more of like a you
know, they'll show up eventually. Like

984
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:40.599
it's it's more it's start again.
It's such a different attitude and different philosophy,

985
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.760
and I'm just kind of surprised that
there was more people in Birmingham.

986
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.480
Memphis. Totally get it. You
know, you're you're getting those people back

987
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:50.360
into the fold. And I think
it was a decent crowd. You know,

988
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:52.199
I give it was one side of
the stadium, but you know,

989
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:54.400
so Orlando Guardians did that too.
There's like the one side of the stadium

990
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:59.559
for visual components. I get that. But and it's also very round,

991
00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:04.119
you know, very big rounded bowl
there, the Liberty Bowl in Memphis.

992
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:07.079
But yeah, I don't know what's
going to happen. I'm really curious to

993
01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:08.760
see how Michigan shows up because I've
been told that Michigan is supposed to be

994
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:12.880
a really supportive you know, like
the numbers, the social media numbers,

995
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.000
the fans like, it's supposed to
be really supported. So they'll be playing

996
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.239
at home in week three. Let's
see how the Panthers do at home.

997
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.000
Ken. I don't know, it's
weird because they're not really in either of

998
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.840
those markets, not really, you
know, like that's that's kind of what's

999
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:30.039
weird with Pittsburgh and New Jersey.
But we'll see. I just I want

1000
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:35.360
to see if that enthusiasm level is
going to continue. I have a comment

1001
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.400
here. I'm not even gonna put
in that, but there they said there's

1002
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.320
about forty one thousand fans in Birmingham
for today to stay up. Holds four

1003
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:44.440
or forty seven thousands. If you
think there were some only six thousand empty

1004
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:47.199
seats in that stadium. I have
and there might have been six thousand seats.

1005
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:52.119
Is covered in tarps in the one
end zone. There anything else on

1006
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.039
this, I don't want to hold
you too long. People are excited to

1007
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:58.559
hear any other thoughts anything. It's
just excited. I mean, I don't

1008
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:00.519
want to like poop poo on all
of this. Like I am excited.

1009
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.400
I liked watching the USFL, I
really did, Like I said, watched

1010
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.519
the show book. I felt like
this is back. But you know,

1011
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:09.119
I mean, this is what this
show is. Like we you know,

1012
01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:12.920
we talked football and then we kind
of talked this other stuff. I'm here

1013
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.320
and I will tell you we got
a lot more comments today about this kind

1014
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.800
of stuff. Did we do about
you know, Carson Carson Strong, you

1015
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.159
know as a completion percentage or whatever, like you know, this is kind

1016
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:24.920
of what these shows are. But
any other real football talk, any other

1017
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:30.280
non football talk. I again,
you know, it's going to come down

1018
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:31.719
to what happens in a couple of
weeks with the playoffs. And also,

1019
01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:36.480
by the way, oh my god, there was so much going on sports

1020
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:37.840
wise this weekend. I mean the
ratings, that's the other thing we need

1021
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.280
to think about. The ratings.
Like the NBA playoffs started, you know,

1022
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:43.679
that's the other thing. You had
playoff games going on, you had

1023
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.519
baseball going on. I mean,
it was just a avalanche of stuff going

1024
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:50.360
on this past weekend. This is
the thing with spring football has to consider,

1025
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:52.840
like there are other fans watching other
things. You know, football is

1026
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:57.079
king. I totally agree, But
also, oh my god, there's so

1027
01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.360
many things going on simultaneously for a
lot of people. And that's that's just

1028
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:05.039
the nature of the beast. As
far as trying to get eyeballs, it's

1029
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.800
gonna it's gonna be a thing going
forward. Still, I think the XFL

1030
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:12.079
is just content with where they're at
as far as what the ratings they've got.

1031
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:15.280
I don't know what the USFL standards
are this year. They seem to

1032
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.199
be happy about them last year.
Let's see how they feel about it this

1033
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:22.079
time around. If you know,
if we're looking at subone mill or sub

1034
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:23.679
two mil. I don't know what
the number is gonna be on on Saturday

1035
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:28.440
or Sunday. We'll see, but
I don't know what their standards are going

1036
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.320
into the year two. So you
know, the TV ratings debate's gonna be.

1037
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:36.280
It's gonna go on until we die, Like it's gonna be go on

1038
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:40.039
till the end of time. It's
gonna be excited. I am most I'm

1039
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:43.599
really excited. And it was so
funny. We were sitting there yesterday because

1040
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:46.199
we're watching the BattleHawks game, and
you know, we're I'm like tweeting and

1041
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:50.239
Matt Barry like DM and them like
Matt I talked talked to him about the

1042
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:52.440
playoffs scenarios and I'm like, okay. I was like, when when is

1043
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:55.559
that game next weekend? When is
the Vipers Sea Dragons game? And I

1044
01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:59.599
realize, Oh, that's like I'll
be a bad game. That's the last.

1045
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.159
So yeah, because we've missed so
many whatever crack in our playing,

1046
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:07.320
Sam Shady is here is in the
sport and I think we're playing Sam's avs,

1047
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.400
but we're playing them on Saturday and
Monday. So I'll be at the

1048
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.920
game on Monday, but I'll be
at the games Sunday for the XFL.

1049
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:17.840
I think that's exciting. I think
the fact that you have I was I

1050
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.440
was scared, and I was very
scared when when we saw this USFL stuff

1051
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:23.960
and hey, we're gonna be on
Fox and we're gonna have all these games.

1052
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:28.159
I'm like, some of these games
aren't even gonna matter for the XFL

1053
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:30.440
at this point, Like, what
are we gonna do? We have two

1054
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.159
games next weekend that they're really going
to matter. With that, I think

1055
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:37.840
the USFL slate is good as well. Let me pull up on here just

1056
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.760
before we get out. You know, we got you know, Gamblers Breakers,

1057
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:45.239
right, so we're gonna be at
Protective. We're gonna see the Birmingham

1058
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:49.880
Stallions back in Birmingham, and then
is this do we finally get So we

1059
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.599
get the Canton games next weekend?
Right, so that'll be week two.

1060
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:55.000
We'll get Canton and then we don't
we get to trade week three, so

1061
01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:59.280
that will be exciting on that.
Well, we just had a big shot

1062
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.559
of the viewers here Andy any other
big hot takes. So we have our

1063
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:06.119
we have our plethora of seventy six
years latch you right now. Well,

1064
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:11.280
I was gonna say about that Seattle
game. That's a huge matchup on Sunday.

1065
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.360
It's the last game of the season, so it's kind of like the

1066
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:18.119
Sunday Night football thing, where like
in the NFL where someone gets flexed in

1067
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:21.880
at the last second for it to
be like the most important game and of

1068
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:25.960
being deciding a playoff spot, I
mean that literally decides a playoff spot,

1069
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:30.280
Like your game has become incredibly important
and it's the last game of the season,

1070
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:32.840
and that's honestly for ESPN, that's
a win, and if for the

1071
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:38.119
XFL to win, because it's up
until the last moment that it's really important.

1072
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:43.000
So that's that's something that I'm looking
forward to. Obviously, Vegas is

1073
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:46.039
still playing a spoiler role. I
said that last week they tried against Houston.

1074
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:49.159
Man, they really did, but
they got in their own way unfortunately.

1075
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:54.679
Oh here's a hot take for you. Actually, as far as as

1076
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:59.320
far as the Vegas operation goes,
I'm not sure this Rod Woodson thing is

1077
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:02.320
working. Man Like, it's it's
not going well. He's he's talking down

1078
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:08.199
to officials, he's constantly upset about
stuff, and he's just not having a

1079
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:10.639
good time out there. I don't
know why. We talked about it last

1080
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:14.639
week with Rick Santortella. Why didn't
Jylan McClendon, you know, start earlier

1081
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:16.840
in the year. He looks confident, he looks cool, he looks composed.

1082
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:21.159
Why wasn't he there earlier? Their
whole operation is unfortunate because again,

1083
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.519
they have the talent to play with
anybody in the league, and they just

1084
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:29.159
cannot finish games. For the life
of them. They just cannot do it.

1085
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:31.960
And I don't think it's gonna go
well for them on Sunday. They

1086
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:34.480
might have a lead early in that
game. They might be really frustrating in

1087
01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:38.360
Seattle for about three quarters, but
I don't trust Vegas to hold onto a

1088
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.519
lead. I really don't. And
they haven't beaten the North opponent yet.

1089
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.599
Do you like that trash stock that
they had with the Valahawks, for you

1090
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:47.320
know, Vegas said like, oh, congratulations of your first point versus the

1091
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:49.199
North that say, list said,
well, at least we have one.

1092
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:58.480
I will say I like that Ben
is playing with some of the brado right

1093
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:01.840
now. I know that some of
the actually lost like battle Hawks followers yesterday,

1094
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:05.079
because I think I was trash talking
so much on that. But I

1095
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:09.159
was texting with our friend Haley,
you know that helps run the you know

1096
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:13.280
that runs the Dragon social media.
I said, I like b D Ben,

1097
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:16.400
Like I like that energy. Like
Ben is walking around right now like

1098
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:20.440
bae bye bye bye. You know, he's got his gun, the holsters

1099
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:23.800
and all that stuff. I really
like that. Yeah, I don't like

1100
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:27.960
Rod Woodson talking down to female coaches
and then continuing to kind of do all

1101
01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:30.519
that stuff afterwards. Um, guys, we're gonna get out of here.

1102
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:35.719
Let us know if we want the
emergency breaking news TV ratings once tomorrow,

1103
01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:38.960
I think do you think we could
fill an hour with that? I mean,

1104
01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:42.440
do you think there's enough to talk
about? Like I said, people

1105
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:45.480
are talking about it until they die, So I think I think I think

1106
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:47.360
you could if you really wanted to
it. Thumbs up, thumbs up the

1107
01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:49.840
video, thumbs up the video here
on the YouTube. If you want us,

1108
01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:53.400
we'll come. Because here's the deal. The radians will be down,

1109
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:57.760
should be down right about seven fifteen
am tomorrow, so then we can still

1110
01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:00.639
do you know, the A eight
thirty whatever I'll post, but we can

1111
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:02.599
still do that if people want it. Okay, Yes, we have good

1112
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:05.920
viewership right now because we kind of
ride the wave right now. It was

1113
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:09.920
we were hot at the beginning of
the season. And I just want you

1114
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.840
to remember your boy Read and Andy
here every week doing this show. I

1115
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:17.440
sick as a dog last week,
and then Vegas at the lock store or

1116
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:20.559
two and all of that, anything
else before you get out of here.

1117
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:27.360
We survived. We got through one
weekend. Let's do it again next weekend.

1118
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.639
Always looking forward to it. Man, Yeah, JK or JJKKK,

1119
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:36.280
says Murray eight wrong the professor at
wrong about what everything? You're not wrong.

1120
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:40.880
You're not wrong. You're not wrong. Guys like and subscribe. Like

1121
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:44.119
I said, we're going to be
given away either the XFL Championship tickets,

1122
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.679
which I do not think we'll hit
by the XFL Championship game, or else

1123
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:50.480
the USFL Championship Game tickets for that
if you would like that at Canton,

1124
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:54.599
Ohio. We will get be given
the way two of those if we've hit

1125
01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:59.159
thirty five hundred subscribers. I am
looking into a guided tour of the Alamo

1126
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:00.760
as we speak. I was looking
on there. I'll do a headcount here,

1127
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:05.000
but I think we can request a
private tour guide for us at the

1128
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:08.519
Alumo if you would like to be
a part of that. For the San

1129
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:11.639
Antonio and I'm trying to figure out. I don't know if we're gonna do

1130
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:14.639
a location or if we're gonna do
the hotel for the live show. I've

1131
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:17.800
been corresponding with a bunch of the
restaurants. If like we're if we're just

1132
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:20.640
having like Mike Mitchell and stuff call
in anyway, we might just do it

1133
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:24.720
at the hotel. But we'll kind
of figure that out. But Andy will

1134
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:27.119
be a part of that as well
as everybody else. Yet the reals and

1135
01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:29.479
heels, we will be in the
basement of the ALBUMO. That will be

1136
01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:31.399
the lot. Yeah, come to
the live show in the basement of the

1137
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.560
ALBUMO. I thank you guys all
so much for watching today, Andy,

1138
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:41.239
anything else. Before I hit the
goodbye, I have to know exactly what's

1139
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:45.279
your condition is going to be on
Sunday and if we're going to have another

1140
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.359
Vegas situation the next day on Monday, I gotta I gotta be mentally prepared

1141
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:51.880
for that. So just let me
know how it Sunday goes. Yeah,

1142
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:55.399
and you need to be mean when
we're in there. We're down at San

1143
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:58.039
Anton. Yeah. Andy lived through
quite a wild time with me in the

1144
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:00.720
live show last of Monday. Anyone
that watched that, that was a fun

1145
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.079
time. Okay, I think that's
it. Ox is all right, Thanks

1146
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:06.399
guys. All right, look for
an episode tomorrow. Should be fun.

1147
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:08.319
We'll see you next time.