Made a decision. I'll pace sunny sad I head a vision. So hey
everybody, welcome to for crying out loud. We're still flying solo without our
producer, Kaylin, so it's just us three Stephanie, me and Teresa's stresser,
our guests. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming and
joining us on a Saturday afternoon. This has been the best week of our
lives. Yeah, and it really I've been looking forward to this day for
a long time. I'm so happy, very happy to see you both,
very happy to see when you guys both pulled up on the curb at the
same time. By the way, where are we Are we in Burbank?
What town is this? North Hollywood? North Hollywood? Technically, when you
guys pulled up with this and you both got out of your cars at the
same time, I just like my heart felt warm. Like I'm saying,
no, I sometimes I which I still lived in La so I could have
a more I could have a more relevant career. Well, I, miss
I remember we used to go to MEXICALI yes, get the Jessica Simpson Margarita,
Yeah, that's right, No sugar, what's going on with her lately?
I have no idea. I think she's doing well. She's been sober
for a while. Is that the thing? Are people upset that she's too
thin? Yeah, I know she did. She did lose a lot of
weight or whatever. But yeah, I interviewed her once. She was extremely
nice. She seems very nice. Yeah, her sister was there. They
were both very sweet. Yeah, oh yeah, her sad. Remember the
high to our fabulous people. Okay, Stephanie Stinker Wrinker, Krista, get
the strap, Sandra, it's not easy being green. Jennifer, get up,
Jennifer, Sarah Stefan Leslie, stop coughing. Alicia from el Monte Aaron,
who did this? Amy? Nice girl? Yeah, Kelly Brand,
she will take you to plan parenthood and hip hop class refect. Sean Vagres
got on a hat ass, sweet ass. Missy and Gabby are still having
a make up to us. Yeah they're Shenanigans. Um, Katarina, you
gotta check that molar because do not be like me. Don't wait, No,
Valerie hits out of the park, Polly, we love your pancakes.
Athena Ginshirt is a great dancer. Elizabeth Williamson has too many kids, one
too many? Um, Hero, Everybody Love, Everybody loves you, Get
ready for father everybody yep, Rita has a nice bassinet. Jacob, it's
not he's Growley Grawley, easy being Jacob. Yeah. Leslie accosted some people
outside of Ikea. She's following them with her van. Uh and Ashley's really
chic. Yeah. We love you guys, thank you. Yeah and uh.
We got Teresa studio and we're talking about books. She's got a new
book out and we went home. We were talking at the end of Patreon
about something that I was like, this will be good for the beginning of
the show. Is about the book covers, book covers, making it home,
making it home, life lessons with like dealing with like the entire team
about your book, and like, you know, what we really should just
bring up is like the pr It really is like do it yourself. Yeah,
So where are you You're making the rounds right, Yeah? I mean
I just slide into people's dms. I had a big victory getting on the
MLB network, which might not be a big deal to you guys. Wow,
No, that's great. But speaking of Stephanie has been very supportive,
and that's not always the case with women. To each other sadly. But
Stephanie is that girl. Like I reached out to her, she got right
back to me. She wrote a beautiful blurb. She never hesitated, she
took a lot of time, and she did that even though she herself was
completing her own book, Drunkish coming out in January. That's nice how you
did that? But iaster so I just googled, like list of hosts for
MLB Network and I reached out to this woman, Alana Rizzo. She used
to be the Dodgers, like in house broadcasting covering covering the Dodgers, and
now she's at MLB Network and I just dmned her. She got right back
to me and all business and she said, why don't you come on my
show Wednesday. Wow. I was like, oh my god, I was
getting my roots done. I was like, oh my god, oh my
god, I'm so excited. Awesome. Then a weird thing happens to me.
Where is she? Well, this is fascinating. So she is so
valuable a talent that she does not live wherever MLB network is. She's not
in studio. Because when I did the interview with her, um and sure
enough, she was like, come on Wednesday, and I did. It
was via zoom and she was like in her living room. I think she
she just lives wherever she lives, just from your house. Yeah, I
zoomed, were zoomed to zoom. But it like it looked great, Like
they had broll, they had photos come up, they had graphics. It
looked really good. That's great. Yeah, So that that was that was
a victory for me. And she was like, that was very generous to
it's nice. Now did your book company give you like, hey, try
to go for this or try to go for that. I'll tell you what
they did do, which is I could have never done myself, and which
was huge. They got a review and Publishers Weekly, my first book,
didn't get that. It's not easy to get and I got a starred review.
So that's amazing. I still, again, I have this irrational feeling,
but it's real, Like it's real. I'm not being funny. I
honestly part of me thinks Publishers Weekly is going to take it back. That's
why I have barely talked about it and I've barely posted about it because I
don't want them to decide that they're going to take it back. Because it's
a beautiful review. But you understand they can't, right. I yeah,
rationally, I understand a lot of things. But in my body, like
my nervous system is like they're gonna take it back, so just shut up
about it. Oh. I believe that this is like a cultural thing,
like the Jews are people, Stephanie, thousands of years of pain and suffering.
So you have to be ready, like to run from like a mob.
But you can't. This is a little life lesson. I don't really
give life life. I need this hold on pulling up. You can't always
be like hat in hand though, either, Like you have to sometimes own
your greatness and just be like I've put something valuable. I'm putting something valuable
out into the world that I worked really really hard on. And like that's
all other people do as well. Like if you spend all your time just
comparing yourself and go on, that is worthy as that person. Like Publisher's
Weekly's job is to review books, so like they're not only going to review
like and La mot or like I don't know, I'm trying to think of
somebody that you and I would Mary car Mary Carr. They're not only doing
those baby, you can drive my married car, but it's gonna break down.
One word no no did you help me? No? No, no,
no, no period no can dot. What was the book lit?
What was her big hit? Liars? Liars Club Club? And then there
was Cherry. She wrote she she does the one word lit and Cherry yeah,
and uh yeah, well there's one word title. So that's her thing,
that's her thing. No, no, no, no, How do
you get? I got a question for you, guys. How do you
get on New York Times? How does that happen? Bestseller? I wish
I knew, but my therapist told me to visualize it. Hold on,
I see it because definitely it's right, Like I'm not. I know on
some level that I'm confident about this book, because I do. I am
hustling pretty hard because I genuinely feel like when people read it there they respond
well to it. So if I can get it and be like and that's
been the case. So on some level I am confident as a writer,
But just as a human being, I'm always hat in hand. That's just
my default setting. Can I tell you though? And I said this in
the first show, and I just don't know if you actually believe it.
But when I was reading your book, I, honest to God, was
like, this is this is hard because I can't write like this, like
not everybody, well of course not everybody, but like most people, even
other authors, can't write with the beautiful way that you write and the way
that you phrase things. And I was like, my writing feels so simplistic.
And then when you say things like Publishers Weekly, I instantly think like
Publishers Weekly would read a book like mine and go, well, you're not
like as in Succession, you're not serious people to this writing is you're just
two planes spoken. Oh that's funny, because I either got in beauty in
these words. I'm like that. I feel that way about myself. I
feel that I'm pretty plain spoken. No, but you're not. Here's how
I feel. There's a Bob Dylan and there's a Billy Joel, and I'm
a Billy Joel. But Billy Joel sells a lot of records. Yeah,
you're going to sell a lot of books. And your poet to answer your
emails, The answer, my friend, is no, no exclamation points.
You should feel so proud every time you send that book out. It is
so polished every every there's not an extra word. I cannot wait to read
it. Every sentence is like, oh god, how did she think of
that one? It was very, very hard. Have you guys read this
book called The Dip. It's a great book. I've heard of it.
It's really short, you'll read it in an hour. It's like kind of
a self help book that I'm not going to be able to summarize very well.
But basically, The Dip is going to change your life. Will change
your life. The Dip. Basically, I don't know if you have this
experience, but here every doing something and you just think this is this is
too hard, This is actually too hard. Every day I can't do it.
Well, The Dip kind of teaches you to reframe that and go,
oh, this is great because if it's this hard for me, then it's
probably this hard for everyone else, and everyone else is giving up. So
if I keep going through this hard part, I've now all of my competition.
Like I'm at mile twenty five and everyone like sat on a bench and
they're rehydrating and they're having like a Gatorade squeezy pack. But I'm still going.
So I'm the only one here and that's how I'm going to win this
race. Like, so you just like the feeling of hardness, you embrace
it because you go, this means everyone else is dying off and I'm still
going. So I should relish this feeling because that means this is this is
going to be good, and it's it's more likely to succeed. So I
had so many instances writing making it home where like at one point, um,
my family left, Like my husband took the kids to Cooperstown or baseball,
That's what I was thinking of. Cooper's Faperstown. Um Nate, my
oldest was playing, and they took He took Andrew and my dad. My
husband took my dad and both the kids. Wow. Yeah, my dad
loves Daniel. That's a good husband loves him. Yeah. But you know,
it's kind of cute because Daniel's dad is like former military, he's not
warm, like he was a good dad, he was present, but he's
like he's just not that into Daniel, kind of like in that he's just
not that into him, whereas my dad will gush and like be like I
love Like my dad will just gush about Daniel and be like, why doesn't
his dad want to come out here and be with him all the time,
like he's the great. So I think Daniel is getting something from my dad
and my dad like it's a very it's a good's beautiful thing, especially since
my dad lost his son, you know. So like Daniel's definitely like he
loved Like, well, ask Daniel what I should do about this? And
also Daniel because my dad has a little problem where he'll spend every cent he
has literally until he has nothing. He's been bankrupt twice. So Daniel like
has his literally like his three thousand dollars, which is like all he has,
and Daniel keeps it for him. And then like if he needs to
go to the dentist, like Daniel will meet him there with cash. So
they love each other anyway. They went to Cooperstown. And I'm a pretty
fast writer generally because I started out as a newspaper writer and it was very
mercenary for me, Like I was always a writer. I was a writer
when I was a little kid. I was, you know, a journal
writer. And I started writing for newspapers like as a teenager at nineteen for
six dollars an hour. So I'm fast. I'm like I got to turn
this out. I'm like, I got to turn and burn. So when
they were gone, like I don't know, between probably around eight or nine
days, I thought, I'm gonna have this whole book done because that's an
eternity with no kids for me, like with no responsibilities. And I took
the week off my other job, like all I'm gonna do is write,
and at the end of that time, I had written zero pages. Oh
my god, really wow, it was so awful. At one point,
I don't I'm not I don't talk to myself when people talk to themselves in
movies and on TV. I just think, like that's so unrealistic. People
don't do that. But I remember like sitting at my desk and then like
kind of crying and like hitting, like doing this this is a visual for
the podcast, like going no, no, hitting yeah with my fists because
like it was so it was too hard. It was hard. It was
too hard. Yeah. As I was trying to write an outline, I
previously written essays. That's what I'd always done, and then my first book
was just a collection of these essays. Whereas the publisher for Making a Home
wanted it to read like narrative fiction. A beginning, middle, and end
scenes dialogue. So I was trying to write in and out of actual baseball
games and keep score with outs, balls, strikes, and a through line
I again, and then go back and forth in time. So it was
technically extremely difficult. It was like a Simone Biles, like I don't know
if I can land this vault too hot, and so I during that week,
I was like, I need forward motions. So I went to the
office Max and I just walked around like crying, like I hadn't washed my
hair and I'm just like walking and crying my pajamas like a four PM.
And I bought like some bulletin boards and a bunch of index cards. And
then I was like, um, like in my office like Carrie Matheson,
like really like trying to solve a crime, like having index cards. And
then I had bulletin boards and index cards and I kept like moving them around
like this piece has to come, like the puzzle pieces. I was the
same. Sometimes it helps to have a visual right, like Okay, I
have to like this character arc, Like I'm trying pulling a bunch of threads
through and I just couldn't get the pieces right. I couldn't get them right.
And um, at the end of that week, all I did have
an outline, that's all I had. But I didn't have one one word
written. Wow, how long, I mean, it's so long i'd take
you to write this book. I think all in all, maybe eighteen months.
But I had a lot of you know, I had like a lot
of notes, and my husband had kept notes because he's this guy, it's
a spreadsheet moneyball guy. He had notes from all the games, so I
was able to reconstruct actual games because he kept stats. Baseball is all about
that stata, so I knew like what Nate had done in that game.
And I also had really really vivid memories because it was such a big deal
to me. I was so emotionally invested in every pitch of the season that
you know, when you have a lot of like emotional activity, you remember
you have a visual yeah, and you know it was helpful. Is my
younger one is now playing in Little League. He's doing All Stars now,
So I was at the field. It was kind of like cheating. I'm
like, oh, this is more like being a report, Like it smells
like this, and it feels like this, and there's a crushed big gulp
in the dirt, and the little girl's doing a cart wheeled and a cart
wheel and left field and the snack bar moms doing this, So that that
really helped. But I did have some moments of doubt and I had like
one second where I thought, I have to give the advance back. Have
you ever had that feeling? Oh? God, every book, every book,
there's a moment. John was really proud of me because on this book
that I'm writing, I only had I had that moment twice out of the
hole. But I wrote the book in six months. That's and I had
to beg for extra like, okay, well, because the way she did,
the deadline was going to be five months, and I was like,
I just can't write a book in five months. I've got three kids,
yeah, their jobs, And she was like, okay, six months.
Well, okay, I know that you're probably your listeners probably know all this.
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she's very particular about her skin, like you got a whole regime going because
I like to know what people do with their skin. She always washes her
face before she goes to bed, and she she uses my cleansers and my
stuff. But yeah, so my kids are you know, they're just finished
eleventh grade and they're going into senior year and um, they're doing good.
Their their grades have been up. They had a hard time after COVID getting
back in the swing of things. And then Italia got a concussion she had
to stay home. What. Yeah, she finished out last year in online
classes. She can go to school because she had a pretty bad member that.
Yeah, of course, did she get that playing a sport or no,
she got it doing TikTok video? No? Yeah, well probably also
some volleyball injuries too. Yeah, she has been she's she's been injured.
Have your kids ever been injured? Yeah? Yeah. Nate took a baseball
to the face and took it, took a bad hop in practice. He
finished practice, to his credit because I'm teaching him to have toxic masculinity.
Yeah, I hope that's good. Is that good? Uh? No,
he finished out the practice, and he at the time he had braces,
so I kind of didn't think anything of it. Then when he got his
braces off six months later, he had a two spooky teeth and were gray
right in front. Not a great look, but apparently the braces kept them.
So yeah. And then, um, you know he's a pitcher,
and like this is they didn't have to pull the teeth. No, but
the teeth, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I try to.
Am I a bad person? I you're not supposed to bleach your teeth until
you're like fifteen, but not try. I got I got the trays and
everything, and it did help a little bit. But if you put ice
on those teeth, he can't feel it, so they do dead. They're
dead. Yeah, oh my goodness. Yeah, So you're two boys.
How old are they? Ten and thirteen? Yep, yep. Nate's going
going to be in eighth grade. It's like almost five ten. Is he
doing? Is he having a bar mitzvah? No? I feel awful about
that, Like I've really failed to teach my kids they're Jewish Heritan. If
I had a do over, I would do it different. What happened was
baseball, right, and we pray at the Church of Baseball and Sunday school
Hebrew schools on Sunday, and there's always a baseball tournament on Sunday, right,
And that's just the like, I don't feel like I made that conscious
choice. But then also it's expensive to join the apps. I just walked
into that stereotype. I'm like, can I haggle? Can I do you
guys down with your synagogue news because I'm just gotta pay for braces and all
kinds of stuff and I'm already driving an old Ford Explorer, So can you
guys not charge me five or six grand because I'm only going to come here
once a year? Who are we kidding? Yeah? Yeah, they're like
you're on TV. Yeah, people think that that pays a lot better than
yeah. Right. Yeah. I feel really bad about it, especially like
my younger one, who's ten, is much more or like dialed into my
feelings and he knows it's important to me, so he'll say things like,
mom, even though I'm only half Jewish and dad's Catholic and everything, Um,
I'm more Jewish, so I'm really Jewish and I'm I that's like that's
what I am. And I'm I do Hanik and I don't do Chris because
he knows I care, Nate could care, it could give a fuck,
right, Like he's not like that, like he loves me and and and
you know, like but he's just not is more is like tuned in right.
Um. But I'll be really sad sometimes because he'll ask like really stupid
questions that he should know about Judaism. He knows nothing. He went.
They went to Jewish preschool until like they were five, and then they went
to a public school. Now they don't know anything about their own history.
Well, it's interesting. You guys are both Jewish and you're both married to
non Jews. Yeah, and I wish I was married too, and you
you know, it's not too late. I know it's not too late.
At him loves Jews, he does. That's why. That's why one of
the reasons I fell in love with him. That is a good carl the
same pa, because most people really hate us. Now yeah we don't.
We're big fans. I wanted to um ask you if Nate how he feels
about being like kind of one of the stars of this book and every game,
like he could give a fuck. He hasn't read it. He doesn't
care. No, he cares about in baseball. He cares. He's very
interested in girls. Is like you know in the puberty is happening. Like
I say, he's gangly. He wears like a size eleven and a half.
Does he talk to you about like I gotta crush on a girl?
If I ask him, we'll be like my Hi, Yeah, I don't
want to time but hey, I had a couple of girls. Like he
played baseball for the junior high baseball team, and there was a very cute
moment. It was Norman Rockwell and I was desperately trying to get a picture
of it without embarrassing him. But he was in the dugout and he had
this little girlfriend at the time, and she looked really cute, a little
tank top and short shorts. And I don't know if you've seen a dugout
lately, but it's like a fence, right, and so he's like all
tall, and he had his hand like up on the fence and she was
on the outside like talking to him, like twisting her hair. Well,
you know, puberty's like had some has thrown him a few curveballs. Sure,
that's tough. He's how he does he like like I had terrible acne
as a teenager. And even though he's young, he's definitely like he can
he could be a little self conscious about, you know, uh, doing
everything we can about it. But it's like a hard it's a hard thing
and heart. It hasn't like hit any of his friends yet, right,
So like it's tough. Fu. You know, it's funny when you see
these kids, they like I've seen them grow up and they come to my
house and then all of a sudden, I haven't seen him in a while.
Now they're like big, tall dudes with like hair and shit. And
then they got the acne too, and it's like, oh my god,
I forgot about this age. It's so tall, it's so tough. And
then the spooky tea. So there's like a lot going on. But I
really got to hand it to him. And also my husband was like,
you don't have to, Like he's good at sports, He'll be okay,
he's gonna be He'll be okay, and like these are temporary problems, Yeah,
will pass. But I just personally am scarred by my own junior high
experience of having an awkward phase. It just ended twenty minutes ago, so
I feel it's going you guys are bullying me, Well, okay, And
then how Sonny. Sonny's great. I mean he's a little film buff.
I mean he watches he just watched a film that's like almost one hundred years
old. He's watched. He's just so into film. He's into music.
He loves like led Zeppelin, Pain for all the seventies, but he's a
he's a huge film buff, like watches all these different movies, not like
Adam who watches like you know, uh, face Off, you know,
Red Dawn, Red Dawn, that kind of shit. Like Sonny's taboo too.
Yeah, exactly, I know all his favorites. Well Sonny, I
mean he might be watching some tabooto. I don't know. But he's taller
than me and he's doing his podcast. He does his podcast once once a
week, bench warmers talk sports sports. Yeah, he's all about a lot,
I know, probably a little bit more sports than Sunny, but yeah,
he's a little savant with that. It's crazy. He knows, i
mean, the history of football and NBA and he's really into it. But
um yeah, and they're they're getting ready for college, thank god. They
both want to go. They hang out with each other, like are they
they started now. They used to butt heads for a long time, but
now they they sort of have like the same friend group comes and goes,
and um there they look out. They look out for each other a little
more now. They definitely gang up on me. If I'm arguing with one
of them, the other one will come in and defend that. Yeah,
United against a common sucks to me, but but in a way as part
of you, like, yeah, I do love. I was just saying
it, and Sonny was like, you always tell us we need to look
out for each other, and that's what we're doing, so you should be
happy. I'm like, yeah, but with your friends now with me,
like, don't gang up on me. If my kids fight, Um,
this is a problem. If your mom's sibling died, it really sucks for
you if your mom's sibling died. Because with my kids fight, there was
about a two year period. I'm not saying this is good where I'd like
cry and be like I wish I had a brother, do you guys?
See, guys, at least you should appreciate each other because you one day
you'll be all you had like mom had you late in life. I'm not
gonna be here forever. You have each other. Yeah, Yeah, they
love that. I bet that really works. Yeah, they really love like
thinking about like me and their dad being dead and other That's what I think
too. I'm like, you, guys, that's it. You guys have
each other. We're gonna be gone someday, that's it. And now year
three, you have twins and twins. Yeah, they're pen and my and
then my older daughter's eighteen. She's graduating high school next week. What I
know? And then what then? And when I first was a guest with
you and Lena on your show, I believe my kids were like five and
two. Yeah, my twins were two. Yeah, yeah, crazy crazy
and then so graduating and then yeah, and then she's probably going to have
to do a year of community college. It's a long story. Yeah,
my kids might have to do. My mom who was like a genuine math
genius and like it was um, like a little bit of a rain man.
Um could do all kinds of stuff like write a sentence on a bulletin
board one letter at a time with both hands from the outside of a Yeah.
But she went to Santa Monica Community College for two years to save money
and then to UCLA. That's a really good school. There's nothing wrong with
it. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, but Elbie didn't. She she
got rejected from a bunch of schools that she should have gotten in. What's
going on where no one can get into college? You could have like a
five point out. Yeah, she's had a very high GPA. Yeah,
she's a great student. GPA was like four point three or something and she
took ten AP classes what and she's never gotten to see in her life.
And she didn't get into most of the ucs any she got rejected. She
got wait listed for Santa Barbara and she really wants to go there so she
can get in off the wait list. Right, Santa Barbara as a community
college, Yeah, I don't want to know, but she doesn't. But
she's like, Mom, what I'm gonna go to? This is her thing.
A bunch of our listeners wrote to me and they're like, have her
go to Santa Barbara Community College. But she's like, that's just ridiculous and
embarrassing. She's like, I'm not going to Santa Barbara Community College. I
could just go to community college here. Like it's embarrassing that I'm not actually
in at Santa Barbara. I'm like, Hi, no, I'm it shouldn't
be because that's the case with that, I shouldn't be. I have friends
in Arizona that have paid for these college consultants, and I don't know how
much it is, but I feel like the way they were describing it,
I'm in a guess. It was like between twenty and thirty thousand dollars for
a consultant to help you with your college. That's I could be wrong,
but the way they were talking, they were saying it was very expensive.
And I gauge their wealth level with how much they were stressing it, and
I'm like, oh, it must be a lot. I could be wrong.
Maybe it's five grand, but yeah, but nobody got in. It's
about it's between I think people pay between like four and ten. Okay,
yeah, well, same story. Like my one friend, Uh yeah,
I couldn't get into any of the places she applied, high GPA of sports,
volunteer work, everything is it? It's too competitive now? Yeah?
And then also like I think Elbe got some bad advice about she applied for
a very competitive major, not realizing that, and so if she had applied
for a more niche major, she probably would have gotten in with her grades
and rigor and extracurriculars. But she didn't. She didn't know, we didn't
know. So anyway, it's it's she's been feeling a lot better about it.
I think I could be wrong, but I think it's good. Anyway.
It feels eighteen feels hard to move away from home. I don't think
any semester or even two still at home is so bad. And then go
when you're nineteen. What happens is though you want to do what all your
friends are. So we may see that as a good thing, and I
certainly do, and I certainly see the money saving as a good thing.
But Elby sees it as all of my friends are leaving to go to college,
and I'm not. So yeah, I've wondered this because I'm far from
this, but like I wonder. And when you're at that moment where everyone's
kids are getting into college and then they put their braggy posts about it,
is part of you like, fuck you, Yeah you're going. You're in
your stupid Princeton's sweatshirt right, Like I know I'm going to be jealous already,
Oh I know. And then they all announced like, oh look at
yeah, like Chloe got in like where she's going, and you know he's
always in the school sweatshirt right with some balloons. Yeah. I don't like
that making me feel bad. It makes everybody. Yeah it's not good,
but you just quietly succeed. That's how I feel. But people, but
I can't, like I have so many friends whose kids genuinely worked really hard
to get into those points. They busted their asses, they got there,
they got into Berkeley. I'm like a blos for you, but it is
it gets a lot when your kid is not's shining yes, and you're
like oh here, it's just like I'm happy for you. But then that's
like, oh that's a pain. Yeah. It was constant and for the
kids too, because the kids social media, they just blow it up with
all their college acceptances and it's just like then, my kid sits in a
room and cries. I've seen some of those where the is it of like
a TikTok where they're finding out live and they're so happy and they or they're
like get you know, they's telling their dad and everyone's crying. I'm like,
I'm crying for the kid that's going to community call. Right, yeah,
so I'm crying about Yeah, it's like it's so expensive. I live
in Arizona. Asu is really expensive. Like you don't think of that.
They give a lot of money to out of state kids, Oh do they?
Yeah, Oh okay, yeah there's some state and then you have a
yeah, yeah down love like California kids. That's where an Italian wants to
go, Well, she would get in there easily. Well, she can't
come to my house and do her laundry yet, I'm like fifteen minutes away.
Oh wow, that's great. You know that reminds me of another question
I wanted to ask you, which is, so moms, other baseball momsy
writing this book, you are as you referred to it, like you you?
How do I put this in? Am you like me? Like Lynnette
too? We all feel feel like ourselves as a little bit of outsiders,
right, we have that outside of syndrome. Ye, So, but I
wonder if like other moms see you as like, what are you talking about?
You're gorgeous, like you fit right into this town. You're on TV,
but you're painting yourself a little bit as like because you're scrappy, right,
your upbringing was different. So how do you feel the book will be
received by some of these other moms. Well, I've stayed away from some
baseball tournaments. I write about this a lot in the book, making it
home. Um, I have I don't want to be like this, and
I would like to take some psilocybin and change my brain. But I have
to accept right now that this is this is how it is. I do
get really nervous. I did get really really nervous, like not so much
with my little one with my older one. I don't know if it's the
relationships different, or he's very intense, like he's a very competitive, intense
kid, or it's just my wiring, or it's connected to my brother because
they were born on the same day, both lefties, both based. But
I don't know what it is. But I used it as an excuse that
when they were going to baseball tournaments, I was writing my book. Well,
now my book's over, so I'm gonna have to figure out how to
go. Nate loves to meet to be at his games, which is really
sweet, like like you think he wouldn't care because he's not that into me,
because he's a thirteen year old boy. He loves it. And I
recently got a camera because it was one of my dreams to learn how to
take real pictures. I got like you know, Cannon Rebel, and I'm
terrible, But he loves when I take pictures of his games. I take
pictures of his friends that he sends. I take pictures of him, you
know, pitching, sliding, whatever. He like he loves me to be
there and like that's my purpose, like in this life, I want to
be there for him. But sometimes I'm like, I'm so I can't separate
myself emotionally, and so I'm like, so, I'm a nervous wreck.
So I think I'm a ghost. And a lot of the parents are like,
who's Nate's mom. He actually joked last year, He's like, mom,
the kids on my team say that you like, they never see it,
and I'm like, God, I feel you, because when Natalia was,
you know, in volleyball, I just was I'm not that. Like,
I'm not like Stephanie who's outgoing and wants to talk to people. I
just want to be left alone. I just want to watch Natalia play and
enjoy, and she wants me at those games, and so I would but
like, but then Natalia would be like, mom, go sit with the
parents, go stit with the parents, and I'm like, oh, okay,
you know, and then I'm forced to socialize, and then we're like
we go out of town for tournaments, I have to socialize. But I'm
like you, I'd rather just be like I just want to listen to my
podcast and watch your play. It's a nightmare to me. It's very hard
to be around other people a lot because I'm just introverted. I'm not shy.
But it's two different things. I was just thinking, I've always wondered
this, but I don't think I've ever articulated the thought inside my own head.
It's probably somewhat alienating to be that's Adam Carolla's wife or now ex wife,
right because like, you don't you're not a stranger. You're not going
to be a stranger. People are going to know things about you. They're
going to know things about your family and like, so you kind of can't
ever really blend or be like other people, right, But I don't want
them to think that I'm like, I'm too good to sit with them.
I just I'm not that, Like I don't really want to, Like,
I'd rather just watch her play than talk about na schmooz about who's good and
who's should get more playing time and what team are we playing? Oh,
I want to talk about I'm like, you see what you see? What
I'm seeing right, has hardly been in the game. Like, it's crazy,
Like, why don't they put her in? Who's this? What is
this? Bullshit, dad ball right right, puts his own kid in.
Yeah, it's not even good. Oh, and then I end up hanging
out with more of the dads that're always because it's saying the dad's there too,
and then they're always like, where's Natalia's dad? Relack them, you
know, because he never really went to any of the tournaments. Oh,
because those are weekends and he's traveling. It's yeah, I mean he's busy,
he's worked. Whatever it was, it was my I took her to
the tournaments, especially every time she had a tournament. It wasn't like up
the street. I mean he would go to the high school games once in
a while, but every time she played, it was always in freaking Orange
County or like, you know, halfway to Mexico practically, so I would
be the one take getting up at five thirty d slam by the way,
that's literally listen, I'm in Arizona and I'm like halfway to No Gallus,
like there's I've been to tournaments far away and at times because we have two
now that playing at times, if Daniels with one of them like it that
I've had to go as I really try to also avoid the games where he's
pitching. He's really really talented, and it has a lot of potential,
right um, like the you know, who knows what can happen, like
puberty and peace something. It really is going to be in the hands of
genetics and fate ultimately. But um, I do get wrapped up in it
in a way that I know is stupid, and I kind of can't like
I can't control what my nervous system is doing, and I don't really understand
it. But I do feel good when I make myself go like, you
know what, this is not threatening an urgent, This is not life or
death. This is not a big deal, and this is not a problem.
These are thirteen year olds throwing and catching a ball, fucking shit together.
Yeah yeah, yeah, But I just like and and then I also
in a way and it was like I write about this too in the book
Mike. My mom was loved us, but she wasn't didn't love parenting,
and she was yeah, she was like pretty benign, lean, neglectful,
and wasn't like really around a lotus on the Greyhound Yeah yeah. At age
eight, age through the prison belt of Central California from La to San Francisco,
many times, like not once in the book test which would not be
legal, not be legal. Now, I flew by my shelf. I
flew at age three, from three to eight. I I think I was
flying monthly by myself. Again, it's not allowed. I was like a
full time unaccompanied minor like ever in life. So I feel good when like
I feel good when I'm there, like, oh, I've look, I'm
here, I even though it makes me nervous and like, I guess my
point is I've in a way, I'm relieved that I'm over early attached and
that not like my mom where she sort of didn't connect on a primal level
with us. But your whole book is about the season with your dad,
where you were like every game. Yes, so I was very nervous and
it's gotten worse. Are going to see themselves in the I'm pretty nervous about
it. Yet other kids, So you talk about the parents and the other
kids and stuff. Huh. There is nothing fictional in this book except the
names. I change the names, and in some of the cases of the
kids, A couple of the kids are aggregates of kids from different seasons,
because like, they're kids, right, and they should just maybe they aren't
good at baseball, right, And I'm not gonna throw a kid under the
bus. But my editor actually had like really great suggestion, which was like,
you can write the real truth and it's totally real, but give them
a physical quality that they didn't have. So like, this kid is exactly
another kid, but this kid's pigeon toed with glasses and the real kid wasn't.
So I don't think people will exactly. Some people will probably figure it
out, the coaches, but nobody's really a villain, Like I'm a I'm
like, you know, the flaws that I dissect are mainly mine and my
evil stepmothers too, but she's dead, so and dead people can't sue is
so good. I have like a couple of stories in my book about a
couple of moms that one in particular, I was just telling my editor this.
I was like, there's this one mom that I had this thing with
that basically I hung up on her on the phone because I was so mad
at something that she did. And so I was telling my editor the other
day, I'm like, yeah, I'm starting to like think because I read
you know, I'm you know, you read your own book. A bunch
of times. So I'm doing the copy at it. I've done the copy
at it, but I like, I'm like, oh, that that mom
is going to recognize herself. Even though there was a situation that happened,
I changed the situation. It was a gossip situation where she was gossiping to
me about something that was like so inappropriate for her to be gossiping about that.
I got really offended and I was like, you could fuck up that
person's life if you're spreading this thing around. So um, I changed.
I totally changed what she was gossiping about. But I hung up on her
and then I called my sponsor afterwards, and I was like, you're not
going to believe this and vote and I'm so mad. And then my sponsor
was like, yeah, but you can't like be behaving like that, like
you can't hang up on people. And I was like, oh, do
I have to apologize and she was like yeah, but only for like your
part, Like just apologize for the behavior and then stop gossiping with her,
like don't have don't let her believe that you're somebody that So that happened.
So I told my editor. I was like, ah, I just this
mom is going to totally reck She's going to recognize herself. She's very intelligent
and she reads a lot, and she probably will read my book because we're
very we're acquaintances. Still, like she doesn't know, like okay, And
in the story I call her and I say like, hey, um,
okay, I want to apologize, and she was like thank you. Where
She's like, yeah, that was you were waiting. She said you were
way at you were way out an she didn't see it that like how she
was acting was so bad. So anyway, my point is I'm like,
okay, so she's going to recognize herself. And then my editor goes,
well, is it possible though, since you changed enough stuff about her that
she might think Wow, Stephanie really gets in these kind of squabbles with people
a lot. She sure hangs up on people a lot, you know.
And I was like, yeah, I don't know. And then she goes,
well, how much do you care if she's mad at you? And
I was like, I mean, I guess not much. I don't think
I care. I only care if it's going to affect my kids. I
don't care if somebody's matter. This won't affect my kids yeah, then I
don't think it matters. Right if she calls you, you should be like,
I'm gonna hear you out, and I want to hear your side,
and I'm going to give you time and space to air your grievances with me
fully and then four words in hang up. Oh my god, there's another
mom that I told a story about two that I use this exact example,
and I'm going to tell you what it is since it's coming out in the
book. Do you remember that time, Lynette? I think I'm sure we
were podcasting at the time. I came into help with teacher appreciation Day and
uh, you know you all the kids bring in a flower, and then
our job as parents was to gather all the volunteers, gather all the flowers
together, and then separate them into little like cute, little cute little arrangements
in vases for all the teachers. Well, apparently I wasn't doing it right
because I took one of the flowers and I cut it so to match the
length of the other flowers. And this mom, I don't know if you
remember this this month peaked out on me. She's a very type a like
perfect perfectionist mom, and like, you know, always had her shit together,
and like she'd have parties at her house that I was invited to.
She was like, we're friendly anyway. She yelled at me. She was
like that wasn't you weren't supposed to cut back those weren't that's flower We're supposed
to stick out above the other ones. And of course me, I have
the thinnest skin. I was just like, okay, well whatever, I
mean, fine, I'll just do something else. I didn't like loose.
I didn't go like, wow, you're being a bit. I didn't act
that badly, but I was mad, And then of course I just couldn't
let go in my mind. I was so mad, and then I got
home and then I called my sponsor about this, and my sponsor was like,
okay, but like you're volunteering, Like are you there because you want
to feel really important, because like my work as a flower arranger is like
super important, like and I was like no, but like she didn't need
to act like that, Like I was there because I'm trying to appreciate the
fuck out teachers, Like I'm there for the right reasons. I'm on your
team, Like you don't have to go off on me, and she was
like, okay, but that just seems like your ego is like who cares.
Yeah. It was so freeing to go like, oh my god,
you're right, Like she's there, she's got her own ship going on,
and she's there to appreciate the teachers, and she's like takes pride in her
flower arranging ability, like I don't need to take everything so personally, and
so I was like, yeah, okay, whatever, but I don't feel
about that. I wouldn't send to any conclusion in there, like she's a
wonderful mom and a great person or friends, and that situation literally happens.
If she reads the book, she's going to be like, oh interesting.
I was the person who's going to be like that bitch is still bad,
Like letting got it. I was at work maybe like a week and a
half or two weeks ago, and I was on location at a restaurant interviewing
a chef right and there was a new producer and I had never worked with
him before and never met him before. I was like, oh, it's
really great to me. It's kind of weird to meet somebody and you're like
out in the field, like where now we're doing it, you know,
so he's producing the segment, but you know, I I've been on this
particular show for eleven years, so I kind of have like a spiel like,
oh, I go, look, we're not live. Don't worry about
it. You literally can't do anything wrong. There's no mistakes. You could
be like, hey, fuck you, and it wouldn't matter because we could
do no. I just I try to put people at ease because people there's
a lot of lights and three cameras and people who aren't used to it.
I can like sometimes I can see them physically trembling and they're like, so
I'm trying to have a spiel I do, and then I just say,
like, you're gonna want to look into the camera because that's just a human
impulse, but just don't. You're gonna want to, and it's okay if
you do, but it's gonna look weird, so don't do it. Look
at me and just pretend we're having a regular conversation. You know. It's
like a forty two second spiel that I do. And this guy, who
I didn't don't know very well, I didn't really like he was like okay,
you know, he was saying something that he wanted us to do,
and I thought that he was done talking, so I was, you know,
launching in spiel and he said I wasn't finished. O god. And
the tone was like, oh, that was in front of like this person
I'm about to interview, and like the publicist who's here and the cameraman.
And I know that I don't always trust my reactions because I will have an
exaggerated emotional response to somebody snapping at me. Yeah, but I was like,
I think that was really fucking bad. Like but then I just you
know, I went on with it. This is crazy. The very next
day, I'm going into Good Morning Arizona to promote my book and it's just
like you know, local news live and I go in. Who do I
see but the chef. He's doing a cooking segment on the same show.
And I'm like, hey, chef, Oh you were so great yesterday.
I go, hey, Um, was it just me? Or did my
producer like stab at me a little bit? And I thought he was gonna
be like, I don't know what you're talking about. He goes, oh,
you mean let me finish. I was like, thank you, And
then I could have I wanted to talk about it for like forty seven years,
but he wouldn't. He was like, yeah it was He's like,
but like so what so you know he was in a hurry and whatever.
But I wanted to be like, no, I don't know that way.
I didn't know him. It was in front of people. He humiliated me.
He condescended, Yeah, fuck you you just started this job. I've
been here eleven years. Like why are you dick to me? You know?
But like he didn't want to. He was like, He's like,
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name? Nate Borghaze? Oh, the comedian? Yeah, okay, I've
only seen it written. I don't know how how you say it. I
think it's Nate Borgaze now this is really funny. This is a funny bit.
It's a little clip from his stand up. But I don't know if
you're going to totally relate. This is kind of but it's it's really in
the realm of default parent. Yes, okay, ready third grade and for
first grade she started taking the bus and it was the first time she ever
took the bus. So if you know, as a parent, you welcome
to the bus stop. It's very fun. And so we got her on
the bus. She went to school. At the end of the school day,
someone from the school called my cell phone. They have my wife's cell
phone. They have my cellphone. They called my cell phone and the teach
she said, hey, do you know what bus number your daughter's supposed to
be on? And I said, I'm her dad. I said, are
you create? Like? I was like, this is how you thought you
would give this information? Was? They called the dan? I saw a
mom and dad's cell phone. You go, I bet the dan knows.
I was like, do you have parents? You ever seen a family before?
A list? There's two husbands. You should never call us, I
would read, you ask a lady that doesn't know her. I think I
can so true. I had to go get her. Go alright, I'll
come get her. What's tell me the name of the school, and I'll
come get her. That is this is true in our house, except it's
reversed. Like when somebody asked me, like, can can Andrew do this
at four pm? I'm like, are you really asking me? When you
know that Daniel runs that They people call him cmd calendar man Dan. Really
he knows what the number buses and what time shit is and who the orthodonist
is. Oh, he fills out forms. He does portals. I don't
do port portals. I can't do a portal. God, the portal portals.
It's a nightmare. It is right now. I am in this nightmare
because Sonny is taking a trip to Japan with the school. He's leaving like
in two days, and it's a nice opportunity for him to do. And
then it's you know, school whatever teacher sends out this thing last night.
Go to the Japan web site. And then you need to put in like
their itinerary because they're not staying at one hotel. They're going to one hotel.
Then they're taking a bullet train to another hotel for for ten days.
Put all that stuff in and I'm like, and then there's so when you're
filling it out, there's like there's a thing called oh god, I can't
think of the projector or something where because Japan is divided in these different like
cities and call you know, uh, provinces. Yes, but it's called
something. I've never had to google it anyway, it's a specific it's it's
a nightmare. Like I'm like, and then if you click on the hotel,
everything is in Japanese, so I can't figure out what the zip code
like, you can't read, Yeah, I can't. I can't. He's
I'm like, my nephew when he was a little used to goes this japan
food. Yeah, it's yeah portals, like so anyway, that's what I'm
Yeah, I had to get his passport. So yes, that sounds awful.
Yea. Alby had an appointment with her community college with a counselor,
which, okay, so I have this is like, this is the kind
of shit that I get impressed by. Now I have a friend who teaches
at the community at the local community college who's like, listen, I'm gonna
give you the name of this of one of the counselors, and she's awesome
and like, you're gonna make an appointment with her, so you're gonna email
her. So I did. So I didn't go through the channels. I
didn't go through any portals. I just I just emailed this woman like you
yeah, yeah, I'm gonna side dorit. Yeah. Other people have to
go through a portal. Yeah right, I know. I side door,
I side door And I got through to her and then we had a we
had a meeting with her, and she was like, listen, here's what
I'm gonna do for you. You gotta meet with a counselor. But you're
not officially enrolled in the school yet, but I'm gonna hook you up with
the counselor. So she hooks, I'll be up with the counselor. I'll
be goes to the counselor. She learns a whole bunch of stuff, but
in order to actually sign up for the classes, she needs to meet with
another counselor, another counselor. And now I'm like, well, I'm out
of ideas because I used it all connections, Like I don't know, I'm
like, I know how to regular people, how to non Madonna's Yes,
I don't know, Like I'm like, well, is like there's probably a
portal, and then you go in the portal and then you have to probably,
I don't know, sign up for something your name, get a packer.
Every year. I don't know what it's like here, but every year
in Arizona with public schools, the big thing is like a week before school
starts, you find out what teacher you have and what class you're in,
and then all the moms start texting like, oh my god, yes,
And every single year, I can't get into the motherfucking portal every and and
then there's like a hell apline and then I try too many times and it's
like you're locked out of Scottsdale Unified. I just want to know my teachers.
And then I feel like such an asshole because everybody else has no problem,
and they're like, right, why does everybody else have no problem?
I don't understand. And then I have to have the default friend mom,
because then I'll text her and go, hey, how do I get back
into the portal? I'm locked out. Also, everyone somehow magically knows when
the deadline is to apply to get into certain camps like in Arizona, summer
camps a big deal because it's motherfucking one hundred and seventeen degrees. I'm the
only person no pool, and I can't have the kids just sitting around all
the day in TikTok, right and like eating you know, sunflower seeds in
their rooms and these kids and like this year, I'm like, oh,
everybody's going to camp. What camp? And then I'm like, wait,
oh my god, it's June. Yeah, like shit, literally, and
then I email like hey, and I try to use my power, my
superpower of writing a good email, right, and I almost got my kid.
But even they even I have my limits because like it's full. They're
like, well he can still do um football or like arts and crap,
like swimming. Yeah, I'm like the thing that's outdoors in one seventeen or
the other thing that's outdoors or the thing that he's never gonna want to do
right oops, or math athletics or whatever bullshit, Like oh my god,
that's abuse a camp. Like all my friends are doing basketball and I'm doing
math. Thanks mom. I know that's the worst. The worst I did
resent some of the other people, like you couldn't have given me a head
suck. I know, like you know me by now you know me?
Like, couldn't you're going to register your son? Don't? Doesn't he want
to have a friend with him? Let me know, by the way,
last year I was on the group text with all the kids that are going
to this one camp, and then this year I wasn't. So I've given
I've shocker. I've given it a lot of thought as to why I was
not on this year. I've decided it was an oversight because people are busy
and they're just thinking about themselves. But I did have about two weeks where
it was like is it me? Took it personal? Is it my kid?
Is it us? Because it's definitely not Daniel. So I ruled that
out because everybody likes him. But I think most of the time things it's
an oversight, like nobody's trying to attack me, right right? And when
your kids get older like mine, I think yours are still at an age
where you might talk to the other parents. I don't know. Yeah,
nobody taught to know her. Yeah, when does that happen? At what
age do I not have to do anything? I would say for sure high
school? I don't know. For me if they're in high school and they're
not in a sport like Natalia was in volleyball, but my kids are not,
so I don't hear from any parents. Yeah, and I do.
It's weird, like my like Xander has one friend and the mom got a
hold of me and was like, hey, so my kids coming over to
your house or whatever, and I was once in a while, you'll get
that. But once they yeah, once they get to height, then they
start. They just exchange text messages. Some trouble's already happening. And I
don't know if this is normal for thirteen year olds, but girls uber over
when the boys are having a sleepover at two boys houses in the middle of
the night, they uber over and then they sneak out. They sneak out
their house and they take an uber and they show up at boys houses.
I love it. Hustlers, get your hustle on, scrappy. It's it's
crazy thirteen year old team uber and then they sneak home and no one's the
wiser except for all the ring doorbells. That's crazy. Oby refused to do
that because she has anxiety, so she was like she had a thing about
uber. She didn't like it. She didn't even like it with other people.
She was like, what if they abduct me? What if they leslie
accustomed me? Yes, I don't want I don't want any part of that.
And now she will uber but with somebody she would never uber by herself.
Yeah too. Yeah, she wanted to be with a couple of friends.
Yeah, she's like the idea of a strange person. Pure thirteen year
old would be like, okay, Like if he's in a sleepover, for
like, if he's out for four days and not home, that's like the
best four days of his life. He just wants to be with his boys.
He loves being at other people's houses. Maybe because we don't have a
pool. I don't know. He's very he's not attached to being at home.
Niece does no fear A little fear is good. The sports probably helped
with if that's a thing. You're always like, you travel, you're in
if you're in intense situations. Yeah, the pressure confidence, yeah's good.
He's gonna be independent for sure. Well listen, tell us about your book
again. Where do we get it? What's the exact data? It's out
now, it's out now out making it home life lessons from a season of
a Little League. And I'll say this to the audio book people. Yeah,
I had an incredible experience recording this audio book. I was just going
to ask you about it. Is there audiobook out? Here's here's something fun,
And I'll make it quick because we do. We have to wrap it.
I don't want to keep you guys. But I when I knew I
was doing an audiobook, I started like paying a lot of attention to audiobooks,
and I followed Jennifer Gray, you know, Dirty Dancing, and she
wrote a thing She was like, my audio book director's amazing, Scott Sharett.
Then I looked him up and I realized he was like the Spielberg of
audiobooks, Oprah Reese, Witherspoon, Prince Harry recorded his own did I say
Bono? Questlove Everybody? Debbie Harry, Anybody's anybody? He's like, um,
really brilliant. And I knew that I needed help because it's not just
a book of essays. There's a lot of dialogue. There's scenes with multiple
characters. And I'm not really a voice actress, but I like I was.
They wanted me to narrate the book and I wanted to do it because
you make extra money. Yeah, yeah, I'm not handing over that,
even though I think maybe somebody could do a better job. So I asked
my publisher like, I know this is crazy and it's a total long shot,
but um, is there anyway that you think Scott Sherritt would do my
book? I be like, he's busy with Oprah. But like a couple
of days later, they said, yeah, he's available these four days.
Wow. So I got this guy. He zoomed in, so he was
in the studio via zoom in Phoenix every minute, and the guys just like
he makes anybody good. He's one of those directors Like, I don't know,
I can't explain it to you. He zoomed with me before, and
I told him like, how am I gonna do my dad? How am
I gonna do like fifty characters? And he just he said, I've read
the book. The book is good. Just deliver it. Wow, Yeah,
just put me at ease. I don't even know what that means,
but I just was like, Okay, I'm gonna just deliver it. It's
like, just say the words. That's a name. I cannot wait to
look, can I Is it out on audible now? Yes, so it's
so it's either in paperback or it's on audible. But I actually think that
the audiobook experience will be yeah or kindle. Oh, I can't wait.
Yeah, So anywhere anywhere you find books. And thank you guys for having
me, not once, but twice. Thank you so much. It's been
a pleasure. Let's just before we go, though, let's let's give a
shout out to my friend Adam Lerner, who's going to get you a car.
Adam's going to get you a car. He's a car broker in California,
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then also um Nikki Collier's husband, Joseph Colliers, a private practice Chapter seven
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out. TERSA thank you so much. This has been such a pleasure having
you. If you didn't listen to the Tuesday show, please go back and
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