I'm gonna go right on out to the kwait Coms Spiral hotline and bring on
the QB Whisperer. Former NFL quarterback, Pride of thunder Ridge and promiser of
merchandise, Tim Jenkins. Tim, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing
great. I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? Doing pretty well?
Saw some photos of the what is it the remodel going on there?
Yeah, we got an absolute grind of it. It's a grind where you're
in. You know, there's a couple of memes on Instagram where it's like
Drake cry and saying he's got a warrior spirit in the middle of RELs.
That'll be my wife feel like. But no, it's it's good. It's
good. We're pumped up. And then you know, we have a little
seven year old baseball game tonight that ran a little late, but the Raptors
pulled it out thirteen to twelve. So exciting stuff all the way around.
Love it you guys. Putting the new film room in the house. Is
that that's what the impetus behind the remodel is. Yeah, that's that's the
real the real heart of it is. Uh, you know a little bit
of thin brick for the wife and then a film room for the boys.
I love it well, Tam. We got a quarterback, Man bow Nick's
quarterback in Oregon the Broncos draft in the first round, twelfth overall pick,
drafted just just slightly ahead of where you were taking, you know, in
the NFL draft, and so U you know, first I got to ask,
you know what that moment is like as a young I'm bested with you,
man, how did you how did you like the Bonnicks pick? Yeah,
just a little bit, just a little bit in front of me,
just like seven thousand picks. But no, I think, yeah, so
one, I'm not gonna lie. I was shocked, right, I wasn't
even watching the draft. I figured, hey, I'm going to catch up.
And then all of a sudden, it's like a QB friend Frenzy up
front and then Boonick's at twelve. I think, I mean, I don't
know, I mean, I didn't really expect that to happen. But you
know, I know you had texted Mario about it. You're you're dialed then
I'm not, you know, on the outside looking in. So I think,
listen, I turned on his tape. What I'll tell you is this
is I did a breakdown on him and kind of how I think he fits
with the Broncos, and I did the same on Caleb Williams. What I
will tell you is bo Nick doesn't not have a lot of turnover worthy place
like you watch his film and from a risky with the football perspective, it's
pretty boring, right, Like there's not a lot of high risk throws,
Like he's not putting the ball in harm's way, which I think a lot
of that is probably what Sean Payton fell in love with after dealing with what
he dealt with this year. Not saying, you know, not a dig
at Russ, but I do think we're putting the ball in harms way a
little bit. So to me, it's like, I think you see why
he fell in love with his tape. Obviously you don't see the kind of
crazy armability. But if you really think back of what Shawn's made successful in
this league, you know, nobody sits there and goes you know who I
think had the greatest arm tilt of all time as Drew Brees. Right,
That's not what people say about him. People say a lot of other stuff
which I'm guessing is kind of what they were getting the feeling of when they
were at the organ facility talking about bo Nick. So to me, I
think it makes a lot of sense. I think my only hesitation is how
early you got to put the kid out there? Right? It doesn't seem
like our quarterback room is super deep and super geared towards giving him time,
which I think is kind of the more interesting story is how this whole thing
plays out throughout the preseason and then going into Week one of the season.
Well, Tim, it is good to have you back on the program.
Before I get into my football question, I do have to ask, where's
the Tim Jenkins Elite gear that I know I think Bend promised us. Where
is that? There's no doubt I'm behind on that. I listen, the
guy that we really got to feel about, you know, I'm going to
get you guys here. You know that the guy that we really got to
feel bad for is Grant. I mean this, you can see the tech.
It's like, I'm like one hundred and eighty unread textief right now.
And then every time I like look at I see it from Grant and I'm
like, oh shoot, it's like my real issue though, honestly, is
the Apple Watch. I don't know if you guys have him, but it's
like what happens is I look at it on my watch and I respond in
my head and what I just never Actually, I'm like, I'm like Grant,
It's like one of my favorite guys actually deal with too, because you
guys know what it's like and the industry some people are like real hard to
work with the best, and I'm like ghost in him. So, yeah,
the real guy, I gotta make up to his great I gotta take
him. I'm hoping him the house is done, I can have over and
just like I'm hoping we can go enough like brecking Ridge Brews deep to where
he forgets all these texts he sent me. But yeah, no, I
got to get you guys some gear. I gotta get, you know,
a great a reasonable response time. I'm just kind of failing the all fronts
right now. Hey, all good, Tim, I'll just cost you a
Jenkins's Elite hat and a couple of Broncos palaoffs talking with Tim Jenkins qub whispered
Jackens Elite. All right, Tim, So when we look at the fact
that the Broncos now have a stacked quarterback room and two of those guys are
very young. And Zach Wilson, who people have said some negative things about
in his Jets days, and you look at bow Knicks coming in. Are
these two quarterbacks right now? And I know they don't know the system,
but just looking at what they did previously, Oh, who stands to have
the advantage. Is it Zach Wilson or is it bow Knicks. Yeah,
if we're talking Zach Wilson out of college, I probably would have told you
Zach Wilson, because I think out of college I would have bet his ceiling
was a little bit higher. After seeing him in the league and seeing some
things not shake his way. Part of you thinks bo Nicks because you know
what, we all like hate talking about this, but scar tissue isn't always
great scar tissue, right, Like, you can have bad scar tissue on
you going into it. And not to say that Zach can't overcome it.
I just think there are some things that crept up on him when he was
a rookie, his second is third year in the league, and then all
of a sudden, it just doesn't seem like he's a wrecked mesh with kind
of what I think Sean wants from a quarterback. So I tell you,
I think bon Nick simultaneously years in the league are going to help you learn
a system. Right. We all know they run the same stuff. It's
not like coach Payton stuff is completely different than what he had in New York,
Right, it's going to be it's gonna be all the same concept.
We're just gonna call him a different thing. So Zach's gonna have the leg
up when it comes to learning to playbook because he's been around the pro game
longer. With that being said, I think we sometimes, I think on
the outside, we undervalue how much it means to be someone's guy, right,
And anyone who's been around Sean Payton for a millisecond of time, though,
the dude is hyper competitive. So Sean Payton is not going to let
bon Nicks look like a bad draft pick, right, He's going to make
sure. I mean, this is the same guy that made you know,
Taysom Hill an NFL quarterback, Right, Like you call spade a spade,
Taysom Hill doesn't belong in the league as a quarterback, and somehow he's carved
out a you know, almost as like Sean Payton's like middle finger to everybody
of like, oh, I'm gonna make this guy even quarterback, right,
Like that's you know, he's a hyper competitive guy. So to me,
it's like with bo Nix being his guy, I think, you know,
all roads kind of lead to him eventually taking over. I think the interesting
thing is going to be how they're going to play it out, because part
of me thinks, hey, you roll in with Zach or Sidham or whoever,
right, and then you kind of let them, you know, play
right, and then you you turn it over to Bow. But then the
other side of me is like, if you're going to get to Bow,
there's so few reps to begin with now in training camp in the preseason,
and it's like you hate to waste them, not on the on the young
kid. So it's like that's where I think this it's going to be really
interesting. I think that first Broncos training camp to kind of see that first
practice, Hey, what do the reps look like, how are they dividing
them, what are they trying to do? You know, they'll get a
good gauge of how fast Bow can actually pick everything up at rookie Minnie Camp
and then from there it's probably you know how fast he can act with me
as how fast he's going to get in talk with Tim Jenkins Jenkins the league
Tim, I know that sort of overlaps. I guess a bit with the
next question that I want to ask, because this, is there a real
chance here for Zach Wilson because you know le Bronks are going to decline that
fifth year option. Honestly, there's no reason to keep him a round.
Does he have a chance as a reclamation project? Or do you lean more
towards Jared Stidham as the veteran who's better out of the league in a mentorship
role in a scenario where you're probably only keeping to maybe Sean Payton does throw
up a finger and and keeps three quarterbacks, But it feels like that the
odds are more in the favor of keeping two. Is is that's the way
rosters are constructed these days? Is there a real shot for Zach Wilson or
is this a guy that's just going to get lost in the wash? Yeah,
we really do need to bring that third quarterback though, because I'm thinking
there's a couple of teams I could kind of latch on too late as coming
back coach their quarterback. So I think we should kind of start that campaign
to bring the third QB back. But no, I think listen, to
be honest with you, I think you're dead on about I think he gets
lost in the wash. I think I get just if they didn't take Bonix
at twelve and we were talking this week, I think there'd be a huge
conversation around you know, is Zach Wilson that kid that you can throw in
and potentially have yourself like a Ryan Panahill in Miami right or or Tennessee right
where it's you know, hey, they didn't work out your first stop,
you get a little bit of scar tissue, you move on, you you
kind of resurrect your career. Could I see something like that happening for Zack
Wilson? Sure in the current environment now, Like it's so hard for me
to see a world in which Zack Wilson is the better two right, It's
just like it doesn't seem like it seems like he could be the two like
he was in New York, where it's like the guy in front of you,
no one is going to talk about benching right. No one was talking
about Aaron Rodgers not playing, So then you can have a guy like Zack
Wilson as the two. When you have a young quarterback or rookie quarterback,
to me, that's when it's really hard to have a guy like Zach Wilson
in here too, because it's almost like you create this competition inside the locker
room, whereas Jared Stidham there's not going to be that same competition inside the
locker room. That's not a knock against him, it's just the reality of
their you know, perceived ceilings maybe right or floors or kind of whatever you
want to call it. So to me, it's, yeah, I think
he gets lost in the wash. I think it's just unfortunately bad timing for
the kid. I think, you know, they go grab boonicks at twelve,
all of a sudden, the kind of writing's on the wall, they
go a different position, or they trade back or anything like that. Then
I think, you know, he probably has a shot, but I just
think unfortunately he'll get lost in the wash. I do think he's one of
those guys that it's gonna be. He's someone I want to keep my eye
on because I don't think he's necessarily done in the NFL. I do think
he's gonna have to find that right shot to where he can either fit for
a little bit or he can kind of get plugged in where he doesn't have
to, you know, feel like, hey, I've got to go make
every single throw on playing Earth. But yeah, I just think it's going
to be tough for him to kind of crack into the line up here.
How difficult is it really for a quarterback who played in somewhat of a different
system being able to quickly learn the verbiage of a new system, Because in
my time playing for Mike Shanahan, they used to have these elongated plays that
seem like they took like forever for the quarterback to be able to disseminate it
to everyone in a huddle. So how difficult is it going to be for
a Zach Wilson or bow Nicks to be able to master that language of a
Sean Payton play. Yeah, I think Zach will haven't left right just because
of the years in the league. But I think bo it's a real thing.
I think nowadays it's almost you know, the harder. You know.
I jokingly say this, but It's like when you're doing draft prep with some
of these college kids, it's almost like you need to spend half your days
on just being in the huddle, right, because you know what it's like,
Nigga, It's not enough to just say, you know, hey,
twins right, gun scot right, Hey F ship X, comeback Z posts
right. That's not enough, like to just spit it out. You need
to look at your X right, hey X, comeback F ship, and
then look at your Z right, hey Z on the post. Because you
know how it is. Half the rookies in there they have no idea how
they actively the damn Z right. They don't know right, So it's like
you got to remind them too by looking at them and making sure they know,
hey, we're gonna jump the tiger right here. You're the jump guy,
right, You got to remind them in the huddle. I think a
lot of times we take for grant that aspect. Right. We see them
play on Saturdays and we think, oh, hey, you know you're gonna
see those kind of skill sets show up. But shoot, if your eyes
aren't in the right spot, and if you can't command a huddle, it's
hard to even get to the physical aspect of it. You know, I
joke with our quarterbacks all the time, like the only reason I got to
smith the NFL was because of the mental side of it, Right. I
was the opposite of most rookies. Most rookies, you hope they survived to
where their physical stuff shows up. Man, I'd get us lined up,
get us in the right look, but I'd hit the will linebacker in the
chest. Right. That's the difference thing to me and all these other guys.
You know, I think you know that's gonna be the biggest hurdle is
Hey, can he can he fit the verbage out? Can he you know,
can he can he handle the huddle? Can he get out? Those
are the kind of things that he's going to have, you know, hopefully
he's been working on for the last twelve weeks. Right, That's what you
kind of hope for in a draft prep when you have a kid who physically
is probably gonna check out his film checks out. Hopefully they've been talking through.
Hey, here's how a you know, typical NFL playbook structure. Here's
what you're gonna see. It's going to be you know, formation, motion
or shift then formation. So hopefully they've been talking through all that. If
not, I think Sean will get him caught up. But it's really it's
tough nowadays. Man, you really got to hit the ground running in rookie
camp. And I think you know, from everything you hear both say at
the podium, and and you think he's a kid who's probably prepped, right.
He says all the right things. He he kind of carries himself the
right way, so you would think he's probably got it. He's probably you
know, going to be ahead of the game there. But you just never
know until that first playbook install, on that first walkthrough, and hey,
did we get to blitz adjustment? Did we move the mic? Those are
all the kind of things that that show up at that first practice, and
we all like to say, man, it's the developmental League. It's just
not anymore. And I think, uh, he's got to kind of hit
the ground running, and I think Sean will will We'll make sure he uh
has the best shot at it of anybody till we uh, we always appreciate
it. It always goes too fast, and except when you're you know,
responding to grant, but otherwise it always goes too fast. Look forward to
chat with you again here real soon. I appreciate you guys. Thank you
so much. Absolute brother. Take care, Tim Jenkins Jenkins Elite