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I'm gonna go right on out to
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the QB Whisperer. Former NFL quarterback, Pride of thunder Ridge and promiser of

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merchandise, Tim Jenkins. Tim,
how you doing, buddy? I'm doing

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great. I'm doing great. How
are you guys doing? Doing pretty well?

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Saw some photos of the what is
it the remodel going on there?

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Yeah, we got an absolute grind
of it. It's a grind where you're

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in. You know, there's a
couple of memes on Instagram where it's like

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Drake cry and saying he's got a
warrior spirit in the middle of RELs.

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That'll be my wife feel like.
But no, it's it's good. It's

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good. We're pumped up. And
then you know, we have a little

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seven year old baseball game tonight that
ran a little late, but the Raptors

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pulled it out thirteen to twelve.
So exciting stuff all the way around.

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Love it you guys. Putting the
new film room in the house. Is

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that that's what the impetus behind the
remodel is. Yeah, that's that's the

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real the real heart of it is. Uh, you know a little bit

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of thin brick for the wife and
then a film room for the boys.

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I love it well, Tam.
We got a quarterback, Man bow Nick's

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quarterback in Oregon the Broncos draft in
the first round, twelfth overall pick,

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drafted just just slightly ahead of where
you were taking, you know, in

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the NFL draft, and so U
you know, first I got to ask,

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you know what that moment is like
as a young I'm bested with you,

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man, how did you how did
you like the Bonnicks pick? Yeah,

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just a little bit, just a
little bit in front of me,

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just like seven thousand picks. But
no, I think, yeah, so

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one, I'm not gonna lie.
I was shocked, right, I wasn't

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even watching the draft. I figured, hey, I'm going to catch up.

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And then all of a sudden,
it's like a QB friend Frenzy up

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front and then Boonick's at twelve.
I think, I mean, I don't

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know, I mean, I didn't
really expect that to happen. But you

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know, I know you had texted
Mario about it. You're you're dialed then

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I'm not, you know, on
the outside looking in. So I think,

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listen, I turned on his tape. What I'll tell you is this

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is I did a breakdown on him
and kind of how I think he fits

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with the Broncos, and I did
the same on Caleb Williams. What I

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will tell you is bo Nick doesn't
not have a lot of turnover worthy place

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like you watch his film and from
a risky with the football perspective, it's

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pretty boring, right, Like there's
not a lot of high risk throws,

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Like he's not putting the ball in
harm's way, which I think a lot

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of that is probably what Sean Payton
fell in love with after dealing with what

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he dealt with this year. Not
saying, you know, not a dig

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at Russ, but I do think
we're putting the ball in harms way a

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little bit. So to me,
it's like, I think you see why

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he fell in love with his tape. Obviously you don't see the kind of

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crazy armability. But if you really
think back of what Shawn's made successful in

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this league, you know, nobody
sits there and goes you know who I

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think had the greatest arm tilt of
all time as Drew Brees. Right,

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That's not what people say about him. People say a lot of other stuff

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which I'm guessing is kind of what
they were getting the feeling of when they

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were at the organ facility talking about
bo Nick. So to me, I

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think it makes a lot of sense. I think my only hesitation is how

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early you got to put the kid
out there? Right? It doesn't seem

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like our quarterback room is super deep
and super geared towards giving him time,

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which I think is kind of the
more interesting story is how this whole thing

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plays out throughout the preseason and then
going into Week one of the season.

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Well, Tim, it is good
to have you back on the program.

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Before I get into my football question, I do have to ask, where's

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the Tim Jenkins Elite gear that I
know I think Bend promised us. Where

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is that? There's no doubt I'm
behind on that. I listen, the

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guy that we really got to feel
about, you know, I'm going to

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get you guys here. You know
that the guy that we really got to

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feel bad for is Grant. I
mean this, you can see the tech.

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It's like, I'm like one hundred
and eighty unread textief right now.

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And then every time I like look
at I see it from Grant and I'm

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like, oh shoot, it's like
my real issue though, honestly, is

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the Apple Watch. I don't know
if you guys have him, but it's

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like what happens is I look at
it on my watch and I respond in

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my head and what I just never
Actually, I'm like, I'm like Grant,

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It's like one of my favorite guys
actually deal with too, because you

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guys know what it's like and the
industry some people are like real hard to

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work with the best, and I'm
like ghost in him. So, yeah,

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the real guy, I gotta make
up to his great I gotta take

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him. I'm hoping him the house
is done, I can have over and

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just like I'm hoping we can go
enough like brecking Ridge Brews deep to where

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he forgets all these texts he sent
me. But yeah, no, I

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got to get you guys some gear. I gotta get, you know,

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a great a reasonable response time.
I'm just kind of failing the all fronts

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right now. Hey, all good, Tim, I'll just cost you a

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Jenkins's Elite hat and a couple of
Broncos palaoffs talking with Tim Jenkins qub whispered

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Jackens Elite. All right, Tim, So when we look at the fact

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that the Broncos now have a stacked
quarterback room and two of those guys are

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very young. And Zach Wilson,
who people have said some negative things about

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in his Jets days, and you
look at bow Knicks coming in. Are

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these two quarterbacks right now? And
I know they don't know the system,

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but just looking at what they did
previously, Oh, who stands to have

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the advantage. Is it Zach Wilson
or is it bow Knicks. Yeah,

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if we're talking Zach Wilson out of
college, I probably would have told you

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Zach Wilson, because I think out
of college I would have bet his ceiling

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was a little bit higher. After
seeing him in the league and seeing some

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things not shake his way. Part
of you thinks bo Nicks because you know

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what, we all like hate talking
about this, but scar tissue isn't always

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great scar tissue, right, Like, you can have bad scar tissue on

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you going into it. And not
to say that Zach can't overcome it.

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I just think there are some things
that crept up on him when he was

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a rookie, his second is third
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of a sudden, it just doesn't
seem like he's a wrecked mesh with kind

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of what I think Sean wants from
a quarterback. So I tell you,

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I think bon Nick simultaneously years in
the league are going to help you learn

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a system. Right. We all
know they run the same stuff. It's

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not like coach Payton stuff is completely
different than what he had in New York,

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Right, it's going to be it's
gonna be all the same concept.

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We're just gonna call him a different
thing. So Zach's gonna have the leg

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up when it comes to learning to
playbook because he's been around the pro game

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longer. With that being said,
I think we sometimes, I think on

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the outside, we undervalue how much
it means to be someone's guy, right,

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And anyone who's been around Sean Payton
for a millisecond of time, though,

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the dude is hyper competitive. So
Sean Payton is not going to let

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bon Nicks look like a bad draft
pick, right, He's going to make

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sure. I mean, this is
the same guy that made you know,

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Taysom Hill an NFL quarterback, Right, Like you call spade a spade,

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Taysom Hill doesn't belong in the league
as a quarterback, and somehow he's carved

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out a you know, almost as
like Sean Payton's like middle finger to everybody

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of like, oh, I'm gonna
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Like that's you know, he's a
hyper competitive guy. So to me,

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it's like with bo Nix being his
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all roads kind of lead to him
eventually taking over. I think the interesting

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thing is going to be how they're
going to play it out, because part

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of me thinks, hey, you
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right, and then you kind of
let them, you know, play

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right, and then you you turn
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other side of me is like,
if you're going to get to Bow,

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there's so few reps to begin with
now in training camp in the preseason,

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and it's like you hate to waste
them, not on the on the young

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kid. So it's like that's where
I think this it's going to be really

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interesting. I think that first Broncos
training camp to kind of see that first

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practice, Hey, what do the
reps look like, how are they dividing

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them, what are they trying to
do? You know, they'll get a

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good gauge of how fast Bow can
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and then from there it's probably you
know how fast he can act with me

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as how fast he's going to get
in talk with Tim Jenkins Jenkins the league

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Tim, I know that sort of
overlaps. I guess a bit with the

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next question that I want to ask, because this, is there a real

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chance here for Zach Wilson because you
know le Bronks are going to decline that

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fifth year option. Honestly, there's
no reason to keep him a round.

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Does he have a chance as a
reclamation project? Or do you lean more

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towards Jared Stidham as the veteran who's
better out of the league in a mentorship

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role in a scenario where you're probably
only keeping to maybe Sean Payton does throw

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up a finger and and keeps three
quarterbacks, But it feels like that the

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odds are more in the favor of
keeping two. Is is that's the way

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rosters are constructed these days? Is
there a real shot for Zach Wilson or

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is this a guy that's just going
to get lost in the wash? Yeah,

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we really do need to bring that
third quarterback though, because I'm thinking

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there's a couple of teams I could
kind of latch on too late as coming

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back coach their quarterback. So I
think we should kind of start that campaign

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to bring the third QB back.
But no, I think listen, to

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be honest with you, I think
you're dead on about I think he gets

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lost in the wash. I think
I get just if they didn't take Bonix

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at twelve and we were talking this
week, I think there'd be a huge

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conversation around you know, is Zach
Wilson that kid that you can throw in

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and potentially have yourself like a Ryan
Panahill in Miami right or or Tennessee right

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where it's you know, hey,
they didn't work out your first stop,

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you get a little bit of scar
tissue, you move on, you you

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kind of resurrect your career. Could
I see something like that happening for Zack

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Wilson? Sure in the current environment
now, Like it's so hard for me

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to see a world in which Zack
Wilson is the better two right, It's

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just like it doesn't seem like it
seems like he could be the two like

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he was in New York, where
it's like the guy in front of you,

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no one is going to talk about
benching right. No one was talking

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about Aaron Rodgers not playing, So
then you can have a guy like Zack

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Wilson as the two. When you
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to me, that's when it's really
hard to have a guy like Zach Wilson

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in here too, because it's almost
like you create this competition inside the locker

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room, whereas Jared Stidham there's not
going to be that same competition inside the

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locker room. That's not a knock
against him, it's just the reality of

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their you know, perceived ceilings maybe
right or floors or kind of whatever you

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want to call it. So to
me, it's, yeah, I think

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he gets lost in the wash.
I think it's just unfortunately bad timing for

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the kid. I think, you
know, they go grab boonicks at twelve,

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all of a sudden, the kind
of writing's on the wall, they

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go a different position, or they
trade back or anything like that. Then

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I think, you know, he
probably has a shot, but I just

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think unfortunately he'll get lost in the
wash. I do think he's one of

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those guys that it's gonna be.
He's someone I want to keep my eye

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on because I don't think he's necessarily
done in the NFL. I do think

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he's gonna have to find that right
shot to where he can either fit for

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a little bit or he can kind
of get plugged in where he doesn't have

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to, you know, feel like, hey, I've got to go make

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every single throw on playing Earth.
But yeah, I just think it's going

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to be tough for him to kind
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How difficult is it really for a
quarterback who played in somewhat of a different

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system being able to quickly learn the
verbiage of a new system, Because in

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my time playing for Mike Shanahan,
they used to have these elongated plays that

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seem like they took like forever for
the quarterback to be able to disseminate it

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to everyone in a huddle. So
how difficult is it going to be for

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a Zach Wilson or bow Nicks to
be able to master that language of a

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Sean Payton play. Yeah, I
think Zach will haven't left right just because

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of the years in the league.
But I think bo it's a real thing.

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I think nowadays it's almost you know, the harder. You know.

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I jokingly say this, but It's
like when you're doing draft prep with some

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of these college kids, it's almost
like you need to spend half your days

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on just being in the huddle,
right, because you know what it's like,

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Nigga, It's not enough to just
say, you know, hey,

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twins right, gun scot right,
Hey F ship X, comeback Z posts

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right. That's not enough, like
to just spit it out. You need

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to look at your X right,
hey X, comeback F ship, and

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then look at your Z right,
hey Z on the post. Because you

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know how it is. Half the
rookies in there they have no idea how

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they actively the damn Z right.
They don't know right, So it's like

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you got to remind them too by
looking at them and making sure they know,

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hey, we're gonna jump the tiger
right here. You're the jump guy,

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right, You got to remind them
in the huddle. I think a

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lot of times we take for grant
that aspect. Right. We see them

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play on Saturdays and we think,
oh, hey, you know you're gonna

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see those kind of skill sets show
up. But shoot, if your eyes

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aren't in the right spot, and
if you can't command a huddle, it's

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hard to even get to the physical
aspect of it. You know, I

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joke with our quarterbacks all the time, like the only reason I got to

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smith the NFL was because of the
mental side of it, Right. I

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was the opposite of most rookies.
Most rookies, you hope they survived to

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where their physical stuff shows up.
Man, I'd get us lined up,

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get us in the right look,
but I'd hit the will linebacker in the

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chest. Right. That's the difference
thing to me and all these other guys.

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You know, I think you know
that's gonna be the biggest hurdle is

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Hey, can he can he fit
the verbage out? Can he you know,

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can he can he handle the huddle? Can he get out? Those

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are the kind of things that he's
going to have, you know, hopefully

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he's been working on for the last
twelve weeks. Right, That's what you

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kind of hope for in a draft
prep when you have a kid who physically

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is probably gonna check out his film
checks out. Hopefully they've been talking through.

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Hey, here's how a you know, typical NFL playbook structure. Here's

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what you're gonna see. It's going
to be you know, formation, motion

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or shift then formation. So hopefully
they've been talking through all that. If

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not, I think Sean will get
him caught up. But it's really it's

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tough nowadays. Man, you really
got to hit the ground running in rookie

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camp. And I think you know, from everything you hear both say at

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the podium, and and you think
he's a kid who's probably prepped, right.

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He says all the right things.
He he kind of carries himself the

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right way, so you would think
he's probably got it. He's probably you

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know, going to be ahead of
the game there. But you just never

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know until that first playbook install,
on that first walkthrough, and hey,

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did we get to blitz adjustment?
Did we move the mic? Those are

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all the kind of things that that
show up at that first practice, and

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we all like to say, man, it's the developmental League. It's just

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not anymore. And I think,
uh, he's got to kind of hit

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the ground running, and I think
Sean will will We'll make sure he uh

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has the best shot at it of
anybody till we uh, we always appreciate

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it. It always goes too fast, and except when you're you know,

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responding to grant, but otherwise it
always goes too fast. Look forward to

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chat with you again here real soon. I appreciate you guys. Thank you

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so much. Absolute brother. Take
care, Tim Jenkins Jenkins Elite