WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:20.879 Good morning, friends and friends, I am Julio Pérez and this is the 2 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:27.519 train of life, a radio adventure along the routes of the heart. I 3 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:32.880 want to invite you to travel with me and dream together in a better world, 4 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:38.280 a different world where men and women of good will can live in peace 5 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:45.560 and freedom. The train of life is a magaxine of good news and hope. 6 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:53.920 This is a radio time specially designed for people like you and like so 7 00:00:54.039 --> 00:01:00.000 many truth seekers, of the only truth that can make us truly free come 8 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:07.319 Te, I invite you to travel with us on the safest train of all, 9 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:17.480 which will certainly take you to safe harbour. This is the train of 10 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:57.519 life. Or very good morning, Spain Bundy, friends and tireless travelers of 11 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:04.120 this parable housing as is the train of life. Nothing more and nothing less 12 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:08.319 than thirty- two years traveling through the ins and outs of the human soul, 13 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:13.080 the paths of the heart and the present. Also, if you don 14 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.240 ' t talk to Julio Pérez, come with me. Let' s enjoy 15 00:02:15.280 --> 00:03:24.199 good company. We are approaching the omega point of human history. We are 16 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:30.319 living in a time of surprising technological and scientific advances that we certainly celebrate in 17 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:38.000 its most positive version for the common good. Our ancestors could not imagine the 18 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:45.400 progress made in today' s world, let alone the historical events that humanity 19 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:50.960 has experienced in the 20th century and at the beginning of the 27th century are 20 00:03:51.039 --> 00:04:00.639 truly spectacular, without fear of exaggerating, but social tragedies are cold. During 21 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.840 the last century they have also been horrible, with two bloody world wars, 22 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:15.120 different genocides with millions of victims, Stalding, Rwanda, Mausetum, of course, 23 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:24.480 the Nazi genocide and so many other devastating epidemics and endless simultaneous war conflicts. 24 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:29.680 Currently more than twenty are underway. The advance of evil and human perversions 25 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:39.879 has multiplied as never before in an alarmingly exponential manner. It is clear to 26 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:46.560 all of us that we are seeing the prophetic fulfillment of many of the signs 27 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:50.480 announced by the Lord Jesus Christ himself shortly before his death. One of the 28 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:58.199 most outstanding prophetic fulfillments of the scriptures has been the reconstitution of Israel, approved 29 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:01.720 by the United Nations in nineteen hundred and two forty- eight. By the 30 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:08.279 way, friends, Israel is the only millennial state, the only millennial state 31 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:13.160 that has been reconstituted throughout history as a new country in the concert of nations, 32 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:21.759 and this undoubtedly gives it a very special singularity. At the time of 33 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:27.759 Jesus there were about two hundred million people in the world, according to data 34 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:32.839 from the Roman Empire. We have now reached eight billion inhabitants on the planet 35 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:40.399 and this was unimaginable in those times. Without a doubt, God’ s 36 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:46.199 patience is aimed at saving millions by prolonging his mercy on the entire human race, 37 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:50.319 on all mankind, before it is too late and finally ending the history 38 00:05:50.920 --> 00:06:00.399 of the world. When we contrast the texts of vans Angelico on the signs 39 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:05.519 of the end in Matthew twenty- four, Mark thirteen and Luke twenty- 40 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:13.160 one, which are parallel texts, Jesus' discourse on Mount Olivete and also 41 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:17.879 other scriptures, we discover clear signs that we are already in the beginning of 42 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:24.079 lords. This is the principle advocated by Jesus, as the principle of pains, 43 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:31.319 by the obvious signs, and that we are already seeing moving forward before 44 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:39.120 our own eyes. The disturbing acceleration of world events today confirms to us as 45 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:45.120 never before, the warning of Jesus when he said of the fig tree to 46 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.000 seize the parable, when his tender branch is already there and the leaves sprout. 47 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:51.920 You know summer' s close. So also you, when you see 48 00:06:51.959 --> 00:07:00.680 all these things signs which he describes descriptively in killing twenty- four, know 49 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.000 that he is near the gates. Enton is read in chapter twenty- four 50 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:10.720 of Matteo. Another indicative sign is the mention of the Lord as in the 51 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:15.000 days of Noah so will the avenue and man also say, and this speaks 52 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:20.439 to us of the world' s unleashing, of immorality and of the countless 53 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:28.600 human perversions that have no parallel to the blackest pages of universal history since its 54 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:33.079 origins, no matter how cruel they may have occurred through the ages. Never, 55 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:43.240 never, never like now, barbarities are indescribable. There is also no 56 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:47.160 doubt that we are faced with the fulfillment of the following words of Jesus and 57 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:51.480 because evil has multiplied, the love of many will cool down more the one 58 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:57.639 who perseveres to the end this will be saved and this has no double interpretation, 59 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:01.800 only one perseverance in faith. Jesus’ words about warnings about the worldwide 60 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:07.519 seduction of deception that is as imposing as the one we are still observing, 61 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.600 especially among God’ s own people, with false prophets, false anointed and 62 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:18.560 false teachers, are also being carried out in a blazing manner. As never 63 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:24.800 before in the whole history of Christianity, they are deceiving many. Jesus warns 64 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:30.839 seven times insistently, as a time the season that tells us that we are 65 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:35.279 on the stage of the end multiple deceptions by land, sea and air false, 66 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.720 prophets, false teachers, false apostles, false, anointed, Christs, 67 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:46.919 supposedly many will tell me. In that day, says Jesus, Lord Lord, 68 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.000 we did not prophesy in your name, and in your name we cast 69 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:58.559 out demons, and in your name we did many miracles, and then I 70 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.519 will declare to them that I never knew you from me, evildoers. We 71 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:05.799 find in Matthew chapter seven of twenty- two, many on that day, 72 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.799 not few. In that day understand in the day of the Lord. Many 73 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:16.440 of these phonies will try to justify themselves even by deceiving themselves, but the 74 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:22.159 divine judgment will be irrevocable, even in the social imaginary. The clock of 75 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:28.320 the Apocalypse, which has recently been published, is being spoken publicly. The 76 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:35.000 main press outlets have appeared on all major press outlets and on television. This 77 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:41.679 is a team of wise sociologists, scientists, also experts in various fields, 78 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:48.240 writers who advocate that we are ninety seconds from the end of the world according 79 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:54.080 to the clock of the Apocalypse, a clock that they draw even by the 80 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:58.000 alarming evolution of the nuclear threat. Understand Putin, threatening a nuclear war this 81 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:05.159 week for the West, and this is not only him, but the axis 82 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:11.320 of evil Understand Chinese friends, North Korea, Russia, and let you know 83 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:16.759 who else. So the reality is that the different wars, the threat to 84 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:22.600 nuclear, epidemics of all kinds, scientific manipulations and now, among many other 85 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:28.759 things, artificial intelligence, which is now an apparent ally, but among others, 86 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:33.120 can become our worst enemy, among other things and potential threats on the 87 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:39.039 horizon. These are some, among many others, of the great concerns that 88 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:46.759 are being observed by that multidisciplinary group of experts who are sending us all an 89 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:54.159 urgent message, a wake- up call to be careful about things in our 90 00:10:54.240 --> 00:11:00.840 world today. There we have a clearly disturbing diagnosis on the part of people 91 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:05.399 who are mostly not even believers at all do not believe in Bible prophecies, 92 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.759 of course, of recent times even less so and this may seem parodogic. 93 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.720 There are people, but it is very true that from outside he sees things 94 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:22.200 clearer than from within, and this is tragic at this point too. The 95 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:26.360 Bible tells us of the corrosive diagnosis of human sin, but it also offers 96 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:31.200 us the solution to our serious problem, of the sin that separates us from 97 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.720 God. But humanity finds no solution to the many problems that are slowly destroying 98 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:41.639 it. Finally, we have to say that the word of God tells us 99 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:48.799 that there will be a final time where terrible divine judgments will occur over all 100 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:54.039 mankind and also an epic confrontation between the forces of good and evil. For 101 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:58.679 all the above, we will realize, without any doubt, that we are 102 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.279 approaching the mega point use of human history, with the final triumph of the 103 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:09.120 forces of good against this infernal army of evil, this axis of evil to 104 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:16.279 which will be added so many and so many that will be destroyed with the 105 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:22.600 radiance of the avenue of our Lord Jesus Christ, so that he will definitely 106 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:28.080 establish his eternal Kingdom with all his saints here in that restored world, in 107 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:33.919 that new world, with the new heavenly Jerusalem and those heavens and new earth 108 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:56.759 where perfect justice dwells Amen and Hallelujah. We hope so. The train of 109 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:28.000 life looks at this, ladies and gentlemen, very well found, welcome to 110 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:33.320 this traveling train. It' s a popular train as my friend Luis Alfredo 111 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:39.519 would say, it' s one of his songs, his really historic, 112 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.919 unforgettable motions. It' s a train that all fit in here, no 113 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.759 doubt, of course it' s open to all men and women. Well 114 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:56.639 then, ladies and gentlemen, the truth is that today we are really partying 115 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:00.159 in the best sense of the word, the party of the pla of the 116 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:05.159 sound word. By the way, this week has been yesterday or was World 117 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.559 Rare Disease Day. And this is something we' re worried about. There 118 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:16.559 are many people in Spain affected by rare diseases. This too would be an 119 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:22.320 issue to take into account and we pray to God for solutions, scientific and 120 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:30.399 medical solutions for so many men and women suffering from these diseases. But we 121 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:35.000 have with us our friend Marcos Zapata, President of the Spanish Evangelical Alliance. 122 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:43.080 Marcos is good, too. Marcos is a very multifaceted man, he is 123 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:50.159 a master' s degree in family therapy, international lecturer of pro and good 124 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:54.799 president also of a humanitarian organization dignity there in Galicia, pastor of the Church. 125 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.159 Good news in Lugano, in the Church, very flourishing, very dynamic 126 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.320 and many more things, but he is a great talker, He is a 127 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.240 man, a pro- tertullian, He is a man who knows the pulse 128 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.679 of the present and has a very sharp analysis. Today we are going to 129 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:13.679 talk about the present day, which is rabidly, very hot, very tense, 130 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:18.519 but we will analyze it from serenity and see what our good friend brings 131 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:22.519 us in the conversations this morning, in the train of life with Marcos Zapata 132 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:41.639 the current to debate and we also have with us our friend Juan Varela. 133 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:50.639 Juanes also good boan many academic attributions, also master in family therapy. He 134 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:56.320 is the director and founder of the Family Training Institute, an institute that has 135 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:02.559 contributed and is therefore so many tools and things for the Christian people that for 136 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:07.759 this time in which we live. John is also licensed in theology, he 137 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:12.720 has been a pastor, even though he is now an international lecturer of luxury 138 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:15.919 he together with his wife, Mary of the Sea, and the truth is 139 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:23.759 that he gives some superb talks about the family, a subject very specialized in 140 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:27.320 them, the couple, marriage and also human identity. Well, today we 141 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:30.519 ' re going to talk about something else he likes, too. It' 142 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.919 s one and sometimes it' s got sociological branches. I' m saying 143 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.799 you should have been a green sociologist otherwise, because it' s very sharp. 144 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:44.240 It has works and this morning we will talk about understanding the keys of 145 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:49.559 the current culture, interesting, key to interpret well what today' s culture 146 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:56.279 is in synthesis and then what would be the answer to the needs, to 147 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:03.519 the gaps that have the current culture and what interesting things and what things are 148 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:07.559 not so interesting, even some pernicious. Understanding the keys to the current culture 149 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:21.440 here with Juan Varela this morning on the train of life and finally we will 150 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:26.799 have our friend Judith caseLa, psychotherapist, juvenile infant, you know the verb 151 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:29.519 so agile that it has. He has spoken to us a very interesting topic, 152 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:34.000 Judit in addition to the characteristic ones of her about children, young teenagers, 153 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.880 which is good. It' s a pleasure to listen to him, 154 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:45.559 but today he tells us who I really am by discovering our true, me, 155 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.519 my true self, who I am to err insanely. Very interesting this 156 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:55.400 reflection we have with her. Let' s see you discover our true self. 157 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.319 Then good between that and good music and many more things, for there 158 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.920 we will be accompanying you. Ladies and gentlemen, don' t miss it, 159 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:10.359 because we already started with good Babel music that our friend Alejandro has there, 160 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:12.839 and let' s enjoy it. Let' s go ahead. Come 161 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:36.480 with me on the train of life. You can send your message through our 162 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:41.680 Facebook. Through our Facebook, entering between your double month. Point the train 163 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.279 of life, point is the train of life. Point is. They remember 164 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:51.599 that this way you collaborate with us. Tell us your impressions, ask us 165 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:55.079 and participate actively. We want to meet you, we all want to make 166 00:18:55.079 --> 00:19:00.119 you. Go to our website. Three s s s ns dot them come 167 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:10.000 from life, together is and follow us through Facebook. Amete or at what 168 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:22.039 times we lost our way, At what moments we stopped listening, At what 169 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:36.400 time the cold sedolous corzon, O father, our forgiveness, O father, 170 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:56.599 our forgiveness? We ask thanks, or miserigoa. What a torrent in you 171 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:21.599 there is grace and my odes of St Chrysus. In what shameless sada, 172 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:37.160 in what we begin to venti to turn your cots our pre oh father, 173 00:20:41.359 --> 00:21:12.119 ofllo, oh, our r b grato laughs one day my graza and my 174 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:32.160 ovins ce tisto where is spirit. They ay ay ay libertad, Ay libertad, 175 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:47.759 sesscos sunsprdaro moaning without sentence. I' m a woman. It' 176 00:21:47.880 --> 00:22:04.039 s not true. I counted on my cell phone free me mom wake up 177 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:27.839 as much as your place gives, how many o or desd when it arrives 178 00:22:30.279 --> 00:23:00.240 selura, gives to a hordad, when your place out, we saw great 179 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:26.400 and my name people and my s says the mother or it gives a must, 180 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:48.599 not crazy tonstro is friend do nzado well when already it wandas pretty a 181 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:53.599 man. It' s not true. When you take your place as a 182 00:23:53.599 --> 00:24:04.759 serna. Traffic and Road Safety Law has changed. We changed the rules because 183 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.240 the way we moved has also changed. Therefore, now the deadline to recover 184 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:12.039 the initial point jump is two years, without committing infringements that involve the loss 185 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:18.720 of points, new times, new rules. Directorate- General for Traffic, 186 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.799 Ministry of the Interior, Government of Spain. If you want to visit our 187 00:24:22.799 --> 00:25:30.079 website, the www. The train of life, of life or. Ladies 188 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:37.240 and gentlemen, we already have, in line practically waiting for us. We 189 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.640 have already arrived at the station, at the first station, and there, 190 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.319 it joins the magisterial wagon. It' s a luxury wagon in the sense 191 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:52.240 that special guests who tell us interesting things. No And then we have Marcos 192 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:57.480 Zapata, as we told them, President of the Spanish evangelical alliance, among 193 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:03.920 other things, good morning, frames, very good. I love that fancy 194 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.160 car ride thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we' re 195 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:10.119 not used to those things. No, but good. It is not the 196 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:15.960 smell express but good something like good pleasure to be back in the real life 197 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.599 July, Thank you, dear, friend, and to see you and hear 198 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:23.000 you we are very pleased to me and I know that many, many listeners 199 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:29.559 in many places frame. Today, before addressing some subjects of rabid actuality, 200 00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:37.920 never better said more rabid cannot be. But yesterday was World Rare Disease Day 201 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:42.240 and the truth is that this is a subject that in Spain we have a 202 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.960 number. They told him that I don' t know if they were really 203 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:52.119 talking about up to three million people affected by diseases. In fact, a 204 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:57.240 sister our church leads, leads a good group works more than lead, works, 205 00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:03.400 but good within the rare disease team in Galicia, also in Spain. 206 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:11.160 And it' s interesting how there are people. I want to rescue this 207 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:18.680 July, as there are people who make, in their misfortune, a blessing 208 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.799 for another. I remember a well- known man in the south of the 209 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:27.039 province, after he had a son with a cerebral parasis and when there was 210 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:33.839 nothing, absolutely nothing, nothing for this type of people, because he started 211 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:40.880 to work, they raised an energy and today he has buildings, reception floors, 212 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:42.519 follow- up and everything started with a small company. All that company 213 00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:49.039 provided was for this project. And it' s interesting how some people turn 214 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:55.240 their misfortune into an element of overcoming. And when I say misfortune to the 215 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.319 common sense of term, when they are not within the norm, that these 216 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.640 people finally live it not as a disgrace, but as an opportunity for the 217 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:08.359 common good. And if there are people who do not even know Christ and 218 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:15.880 do this, Christians should see every circumstance that happens to us as something that 219 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.440 God can use to bless those around us. I am thinking of this sister 220 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.599 and a faithful Christian who has turned her into a rare disease, because after 221 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:30.119 years looking for a diagnosis, visiting all hospitals in Spain, finally diagnose her 222 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:37.920 with a rare or rare disease and has turned her handicap into an opportunity to 223 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:42.359 give light and witness in contexts at the level of Spain, where others cannot 224 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:49.279 arrive, but she does our church. We also have what is the secretary 225 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:56.000 of the association of multiple sclerosis, to which she was president of the Association 226 00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:06.240 of Fibromyalgia, people who have used their FE to impact also the contexts that 227 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:11.119 surround it and it is interesting how from faith you can be from professional play, 228 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.839 in whatever you do, but you can also carry an element of hope 229 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:22.319 and light in contexts such as rare diseases. I' m remembering on purpose 230 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.680 this mention you' ve made, which is very interesting. I believe that 231 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:33.039 the true, true, Christian sensibility not of posture but of genuine that is 232 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:38.279 born of many hearts. People like this should be helped in this situation, 233 00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:45.599 because sometimes they are diseases where a family is grappling with them all their lives. 234 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.519 And I was reminded of the sick of him the argument of a zue 235 00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:56.079 again the other day in the embarrassing spectacle of the Members who, by the 236 00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.279 way, I have to say and it seems that it can be a bit 237 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.960 hasty on my part, I said it before and I say it again, 238 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:11.039 our Members do not almost hit the Members, our hardly work, not to 239 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.359 say some do not work almost and some, maybe, yes, a little 240 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:19.240 more, and there were absent the day. I do not know if you 241 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:25.079 saw in this yes, yes, it was a shameful thing in scandal that 242 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:30.519 was an appearance to the whole of Parliament, say, but it was a 243 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:37.720 humiliating, pergoncious thing and hence the allegation of a ZUE, because it was 244 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.039 even more forceful and came out in all the media. Now check it out. 245 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:45.559 I am also concerned on a personal level about what I, as a 246 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.079 pastor, can convey to my church and to the brothers who are in the 247 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.559 church. Then I decide what I can do and I always tell you look 248 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:57.119 one offers your time as a volunteer. You can help yourself in many associations, 249 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:06.200 in administrative tasks, to be able to offer support to families affected by 250 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.599 a rare disease worked, I who know company emotional support makes an economic dolation, 251 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.400 that is, not only do we have to donate to our churches. 252 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:17.119 We also have to donate to entities that are out of our case, for 253 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:22.240 example, as a church, we have made solidarity markets for associations of the 254 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.480 city where people are impacted, because a church makes a market, raises several 255 00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.599 thousand euros to give it to the association of multiple sclerosis. Well the different 256 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:37.920 social associations that there is no one to help them. Or we can be 257 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.400 transmitters of that information about rare diseases, that is, sensitising the context where 258 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.799 we are surrounded by our own church. We can participate in events, we 259 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:51.680 can support research, that is, collecting signatures for the government to support research 260 00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:56.039 or change laws. As is the case with ice cream then or making partners 261 00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:01.279 of a partnership creative at last, because there are many ways to help, 262 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:07.480 not just stay in these cases of world days within saying yes they are right 263 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:13.680 and do nothing. That it is personal, but also at the church level, 264 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:21.960 to be actively involved in the help of those associations or people around us 265 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.480 and that we, as churches, have an impressive potential to be able to 266 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:31.920 help small associations struggling with these rare or rare good disease problems, which are 267 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:39.880 so difficult. The impact that we can make on our Community is very great. 268 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:45.519 In fact, it is the great advantage of the Evangelical Church that we 269 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:51.039 have that capacity for mobilization and impact that other human associations or groups do not 270 00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.160 have or have whole. There is the Spanish Federation, Rare Diseases, the 271 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:59.839 ERDF that can look on the Internet to help if it does encourage all the 272 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.759 people who listen to us to not only be spectators, but can make that 273 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:10.200 change an agent. In this topic there are also about 7, 000 rare 274 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:20.359 diseases identified throughout the world today and clearly we have a let' s say 275 00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:25.480 a clinical prescription to address them and they are made, well, some very 276 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:29.960 provisional palliatives. No, but well, what you' re saying, of 277 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:37.000 course, concerns us, we Christians are concerned, confessing to human needs. 278 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.079 Well it is the twenty- eighth day, but as this year it is 279 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:46.839 bisi This can be celebrated on twenty- nine and from here we are also 280 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.720 congratulating the Andalusian community, which was its day this week, its big day, 281 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.200 not the twenty- eighth day of February. But going over this page 282 00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:02.440 that undoubtedly some worrying Marcos, let' s go to the topic, the 283 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.119 now we have a new sainete, without having finished that of Amnesty, without 284 00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:14.320 having finished that of the Civil Guard, the two murdered by the drug traffickers 285 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.519 there, precisely there, in Galicia. Another question is that this really, 286 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.519 really is. I don' t know if they realize or don' t 287 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.239 have perspective or don' t want to have it. But this government is 288 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.559 watering everywhere now with the case ofÁvalos bullets, the Avalos case is terrible 289 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:37.880 in one sense, but look a few years ago as a conversation. We 290 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.000 ' re talking as friends. It' s okay that we were having coffee 291 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:45.559 with you and me and no one listens to us Julian over the years, 292 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.400 a pastor friend of mine, Fernando Romero, who is a doctor in the 293 00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:52.840 city of Navalcarnero Pegadita, Madrid, gave me a book. He said you 294 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.039 ' re going to like a book by the Spanish philosopher Javier Goma. It 295 00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.519 ' s public exemplarity. So it' s already a book that should be 296 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:05.239 two thousand twelve, over there, over there, it should be about two 297 00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.840 thousand ten, two thousand nine. Then Goma proposes in this book that exemplaryness 298 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:15.320 is the fundamental principle for the proper functioning of a modern democracy. So he 299 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.119 talks about that good example. I read it and enjoyed it. Are there 300 00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:20.960 people who say how you like those things? Well, I like a lot 301 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.119 of weird stuff. Then public exemplarity is based and good that all citizens, 302 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:30.280 but it speaks especially of those who occupy. Let' s say, public 303 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:35.440 officials have a responsibility to act in an ethically irresponsible manner. It is a 304 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:40.119 responsibility, that is, it means that they must be models for others to 305 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:45.159 be able to follow those models. No. Then they have to show the 306 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:52.599 values of honesty, integrity, commitment, justice, equality and why this is 307 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:57.440 important, because it is a society, let' s say ours, that 308 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.599 we pretend to be a democratic society, although sometimes one doubts the confidence in 309 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:06.960 democratic institutions, but also in leaders, because in Spain it is interesting people 310 00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.119 talk about institutions, but it is forgotten that the institutions are led by people, 311 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:16.039 so the confidence of the leaders is fundamental, because yes, that public 312 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:22.840 exemplarity helps to generate that trust, since let' s say they show that 313 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:27.280 those people who are in that place of powers, who are holding that power, 314 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:31.000 because they are committed to the general values, shared with the common good, 315 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.719 not only with their own interests. What happens when we see cases as 316 00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.880 painful as this week' s, they see those people committed to their own 317 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:45.079 interests, even when they speak publicly. It says I come here by car 318 00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:45.840 alone and without a secretary, I mean, but good. But that puts 319 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:52.440 me as the great drama not having Secretary. So we have to encourage this 320 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:58.199 public exemplarity. I liked it a lot and I recommend reading that free, 321 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.440 because I guess they' ll be in the bookstores you still or you can 322 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.760 buy it on some platform. Then we must promise to promote education in values, 323 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.719 which was what this philosopher Goma did. You have to promote yourself. 324 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.679 He proposed an interesting thing, that is to say, we have to recognize 325 00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:22.480 the saying and reward the exemplary citizens, because we always say we attack those 326 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.960 who do wrong, but we do not highlight the people who make an example 327 00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:31.440 or act in an exemplary way, because if we do not recognize the one 328 00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:34.880 who does the good, we will never have models of inspiration for the rest 329 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:35.920 of society and, above all, for the bad young. And, of 330 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.400 course, not only must we educate the generation in values. That must be 331 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:45.559 rewarded, but all leaders must be held accountable. So we, as citizens, 332 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:52.880 must be very critical of the behaviour of our leaders and demand that they 333 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.239 act in an exemplary manner. So this is essential. I think I' 334 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:02.599 d have to go that way because of course, when we talk about responsible 335 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.239 ethics in public office and this kind of thing, it' s always the 336 00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.400 same thing. There is no talk of transparency, honesty, integrity, commitment, 337 00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:17.719 justice. Let' s say they would be the five axes that we 338 00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.079 would have on ethics issues. Now to me all that that to read the 339 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:27.280 book, what gave me to think about already those years ago is if I 340 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:31.280 fulfill those requirements that I cannot demand something that I myself am not fulfilling, 341 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:37.960 that is, if I have in my public work or in my professional work, 342 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:42.480 be it pastoral or other type, if I am a person who has 343 00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:46.920 a responsible ethics in the exercise of my appeal and, above all, on 344 00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.719 issues of whether it is transparency, if I am clear in the information that 345 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.679 I give, in the accountability, if I am honest, if I comply 346 00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:00.000 with the rules, I put something the others or if not the rejection let 347 00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:06.519 us say it, as we saw now, corruption or nepotism, which is 348 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.480 very classic sometimes among the politicians. If I' m a whole person, 349 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:15.559 so I' m not partial in making decisions that didn' t let me 350 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.639 say I reject those gifts and favors. I also believe that integrity has to 351 00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:24.360 do with self- criticism. I' m thinking a little bit about Alto 352 00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:29.400 Julio. But such things as commitment or equal treatment of others, which would 353 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:35.920 be justice, the defense of the rights of the weakest. Before I judge 354 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.199 and criticize others, I evaluate myself if I am fulfilling that and that is 355 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.679 why this book of public exemplaryness would have to be of obligatory reading for anyone 356 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:51.559 who wants to exercise any role of leader, be it within the church, 357 00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:54.280 be it in a company, but be above all public servants in politics. 358 00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:01.760 So I strongly recommend it. This is what you' ve seen Give the 359 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.760 case avalos and say, but this. But, but, but, what 360 00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.480 troop rules us? And we could put other previous cases, but what people 361 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:14.039 of the rulers who make laws, make laws for like a custom suit. 362 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:19.800 This is a shame, its total and absolute shame, that is, zero 363 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:24.199 public exemplarity. And of course, we' re not in a Protestant country. 364 00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:29.639 If we were a Protestant country, these people would fall immediately because the 365 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.920 element of public exemplaryness is born a Calvinist thought, they do not make a 366 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.679 Catholic thought. Then, yes, yes, yes, no, sorry, 367 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:38.679 but no. I' ve made a tremendous speech here, no, no, 368 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:44.559 but we have to value these considerations that you' re making public, 369 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.480 because that' s what we demand, it' s not that we prosecute 370 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:54.840 here at the first of change and we don' t sue the affected or 371 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.679 the characters in question that maybe not. You were in a cab or something 372 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:05.400 and he' s listening to us that you see him there with that handsome, 373 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.039 good- man face and what he' s been about and that he 374 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.119 ' s been very loyal. He was the defender to Ultranza, he was 375 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:17.159 the Praetorian guard of Lastre, with the lady to Lastra, the pretonian guard 376 00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:22.559 of Pedro Sánchez at the most critical moment of his life than of Rebote, 377 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:28.920 because he ascended to the General Secretariat with all the troubles that had to be 378 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:35.119 carried out there in ferraz. But then, then he' s gonna get 379 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.559 to the government. This form is somewhat good for a corruption problem of the 380 00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:43.400 People' s Party. They become the banner or the bulwark of political transparency 381 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:50.280 supposedly, and now, because one case is that they are, the Coldó 382 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:59.440 case is so brazen only the trajectory of this character. How could the Minister 383 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:04.320 not realize this or not want to realize that they now say yes, that 384 00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.679 the judge is placing him because there has been a clear intervention from him. 385 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:13.000 I mean, anyway, the truth is that it' s a mess day, 386 00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.679 a character that I all happened to in one being almost say I don 387 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:21.119 ' t know him personally, but they' re getting public. He' 388 00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:22.840 s the doorman of a post- ibule. That is to say, it 389 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:29.239 speaks of how a time where the post- ibules, except here in Galicia, 390 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:34.280 was known to all that the leaders of the political parties, when they 391 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:39.199 won elections, were going to consume alcohol, prostitution, celebrated the holidays in 392 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:44.079 place so notice that heretical class. Now look at what you say, because 393 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.800 it' s very interesting something that you said Now that you say that this 394 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:53.840 man was very loyal to President Sanchez who, in fact, when he was 395 00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:59.760 the one who prepared all the votes that there was for Sanchez to recover the 396 00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:04.440 secretariat, etc, can be loyal to the bad, because many times people 397 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:10.360 confuse loyalty can be with absolute fidelity. Man. Of course, the answer 398 00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:15.760 is not simple, June, but from an ethical perspective, well you know 399 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.920 that I' ve studied ethics for many years and I' m an eticist. 400 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.039 Bioticist, it is not my specialty and I am passionate about this kind 401 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.639 of thing, but from a perspective of the ethics of discharge, it should 402 00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.199 never be associated with the bad, because loyalty implies a commitment to a person 403 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:37.639 or a group, but it has to be based on positive values, without 404 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:42.280 negative values, that is, values of respect or trust. Well say honesty, 405 00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:46.280 honesty that if someone in the group does something wrong, I shouldn' 406 00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:50.519 t be loyal to that. And sometimes those who do the wrong thing, 407 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:54.000 if they' re the top leaders, demand loyalty, but that' s 408 00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:59.119 not being loyal. In fact, all Netemberg trials were read many argued many 409 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:07.840 Nazi and argued. Obedience of life is worthless. The hearing of life is 410 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:13.639 worthless When you are, let' s say, I ask obedience for something 411 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.280 bad, for something that morality, for something that is unethical, for something 412 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.840 that goes against human rights. There is no obedience from me. Then it 413 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.199 doesn' t matter. What happens is that the pressure comes because they turn 414 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:28.239 to the affective arms. So people say you' re not my family, 415 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:30.719 you' re my friend, you' re my partner. Then you have 416 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:36.079 to accompany me in this mistake. Or there' s a saying, I 417 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.960 ' m a feeling of obligation. People cannot feel that they have an obligation 418 00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:45.880 because that person has helped them in the past. Also remember that even in 419 00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:51.199 the Bible, King David is bound and they have him, let' s 420 00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:53.000 say caught such Joab, because Joab is the one who covers his sin. 421 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.960 When he kills, when he sins with Beth Same and kills Beth' s 422 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.960 husband, know, then Quab is the one who protects him. And then 423 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.800 David always had a feeling of obligation to Hua. That was a terrible situation. 424 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:12.639 Or there' s fear of retaliation. That is to say, in 425 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.480 these situations we always have to reflect. There can be no loyalty to the 426 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.800 bad. That' s not loyalty. Being someone means supporting, but not 427 00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:24.880 covering up, not covering up, not associating with the bad. And this 428 00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:30.400 is important that we see it even within our church contexts. Saying this is 429 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:35.239 important. One cannot be loyal to the bad from an ethical perspective, and 430 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.719 I believe that even at a social level, sometimes those ethical values before the 431 00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:45.639 ethics of morality are exactly the same moral values, because today ethics is understood 432 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.880 a point of view, a little different. But the same thing we should 433 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.039 not only practice them, but examine ourselves, for example, as angelic churches, 434 00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:00.800 leading pastors, we cannot be for having the sore upon the sins of 435 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.559 others Jesus Christ himself said you are seeing the straw in the other' s 436 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:07.920 eye and you are not seeing the beam in yours that we cannot do that. 437 00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.119 Right, we can' t do that. It' s very interesting. 438 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:15.000 I forgive you for telling me, but it' s very interesting. 439 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:21.760 Adela Cortina, a Spanish Neticist, who is very interesting to read this woman. 440 00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.480 I have read several books of it and I have but as it speaks 441 00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:30.800 of loyalty, and it speaks precisely of loyalty within the context of positive values, 442 00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.800 then this man and what is happening right now the weight and but it 443 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.679 could have happened in other parties, the PP and in other parties there has 444 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:44.519 been corruption in almost all, because sometimes the concept of loyalty was taken away 445 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:49.880 and loyalty was demanded, a loyalty absolutely to brante. You can' t 446 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:54.719 ask for loyalty for what' s wrong. This is important to make clear. 447 00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:00.159 Yes, this also gives me ground on questions, but we are also 448 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:07.840 going to project it back towards the growing evangelical community in our country and throughout 449 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.599 the world. But because we feel concerned, we are also part of it, 450 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:16.000 also in Europe, in the world, but in Spain and about two 451 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:23.039 million evangelical professors, with very direct areas of influence, Christian communities, and 452 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:30.639 more than five thousand reais, and so on. And surely then it is 453 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:39.360 true that the evangelical Christian communities, understand Protestants, are for the vast majority 454 00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:45.480 places of peace, of friendship of good This is more than proven, but 455 00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.960 there are strongholds and sometimes cases, and this is to denounce it and we 456 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:54.920 make a public denunciation so that even members of the churches who are manipulated, 457 00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:05.360 pressured what is manipulation, let' s say of people with questions to morals 458 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:12.599 or immoral or indecent in terms of the management of funds, to other more 459 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.880 particular issues or of another character. So I believe that in this we have 460 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:22.679 to make a prophylaxis as well and a bet a day, because it is 461 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:27.159 not admissible. Christian communities, their members cannot allow, should not allow there 462 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:34.280 to be some scoundrels, some people who really are not. We' re 463 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.599 living cases up close. I' m dealing with one of them here, 464 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:45.280 an important supposedly evangelical community. Many years today we have to raise up in 465 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.559 that sense to examine ourselves. In other words, certain cases of manipulation were 466 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:52.960 noted than a salmajeric church in Spain. I believe that it was before the 467 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:57.840 pandemic of two thousand nineteen that there was a leader of a Gallic church in 468 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:00.960 Barcelona who was convicted of sexual abuse or yes, in the middle of a 469 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:07.199 pandemic. In the two thousand and twenty, I recall that there had been 470 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:12.119 an investigation into a Madrid vangélica church that said it exploited its members laborfully. 471 00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:14.079 That' s what goes on outside, because I should have seen the abuse 472 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:17.360 case happen to me. There was a conviction. Then, shortly after, 473 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.840 in the midst of a pandemic, a pastor or magenic was denounced in Valencia 474 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:28.599 because he personally enriched himself using the offerings of the church. In short, 475 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:34.840 spiritual abuse, the spiritual abuse that leads to everything else accurate. So, 476 00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:38.880 look, I had the opportunity to write with the doctor with psychiatrist Pablo Martínez, 477 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:42.639 a guide to prevention of the busi Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 478 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:47.039 yeah. I remembered that you were one of the authors. Then there 479 00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:52.039 are a series of signs of manipulation in a church. For example, when 480 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:58.239 there is excessive control, it exacts total obedience to a leader, when a 481 00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.400 good shepherd, when there is isolation, members are pressured to distance themselves from 482 00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:06.880 relatives of friends who do not exist in the church, when much work is 483 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:12.360 done through guilt and fear, that feeling and fear of punishment is used to 484 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:19.840 control the members. Or when secrecy, for example, is imposed, it 485 00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.639 is forbidden to talk about the Church' s activities with outsiders. It is 486 00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:27.719 that every face inside and above all, as you said right now well, 487 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.719 there is financial exploitation. It is not sold before papal bulls were sold in 488 00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:37.039 the Middle Ages. And but that can sometimes happen in our context if you 489 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:43.400 leave the members who give amounts of that favors are sold, if you give, 490 00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:47.079 God gives you a way to rob people through financial exploitation, when giving 491 00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:51.559 is a grace that I do that I cannot be seduced, but I do 492 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:57.280 that with thanks. That' s why we have to teach. One says 493 00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:05.639 well how you can do a Bible study without heart at this time. Go 494 00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:09.280 but give tools to people. Three or four tips simply how to work with 495 00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:14.639 manipulation and sin in the Church. To say some way. First, Bible 496 00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.480 education must be well encouraged. It is important that all members of the Church 497 00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:22.840 have a deep knowledge of the Bible so that they can discern the truth from 498 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.239 lies, truth and manipulation. I think it has, as we said before, 499 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:31.320 public exemplaryness. Leadership that is exemplary must be promoted. That implies transparency. 500 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:36.280 The leaders of the Church to be transparent in their finances and in their 501 00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:40.039 activities. That I don' t give it and they' ll realize God. 502 00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.480 They will not be accountable to God and will be accountable to the Congregation. 503 00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:47.639 They will account to that community of faith that is offering, that is 504 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:52.719 tithing whatever it deems convenient. So we' re going to be accountable for 505 00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:57.320 everything, because that' s being transparent and that generates trust. And it 506 00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.519 generates trust and trust generates more offerings. And so we have to try to 507 00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:07.159 cultivate that supportive community, to say, the Church has to be a place 508 00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:13.840 where people can talk about their doubts, where people can even think differently about 509 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:15.320 the meaning and say good. Well, I don' t see it that 510 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.960 way. I think we could do it this way without fear of being judged. 511 00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.480 If a person is afraid to disagree, because a whole judgment can come 512 00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:29.119 to him or be set aside from being in a church where there is manipulation. 513 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:34.360 And, of course, to close the circle, let' s say, 514 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.719 we have to literally denounce abusive practices. If there is any abusive practice 515 00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:42.480 to which a church is a church, it is important to denounce it. 516 00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:47.239 If it is a crime, to the corresponding authorities and if it is not 517 00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:52.239 a crime, it is an abuse of the ecclesiastical type. Within, then, 518 00:52:52.440 --> 00:53:00.320 the spiritual authorities there may be. But this is important. I think 519 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:04.559 that on purpose also your responsibility to President of the Spanish Bancanic Alliance, which 520 00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:10.119 is a forum that preserves and promotes good practices in every way, but also 521 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:15.039 in this topic of spiritual abuse, this topic of because it is a subject 522 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:20.559 that people inside and outside have to listen to, that we are for honest 523 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:24.360 things, for transparency and for the truth of things, and that we are 524 00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:30.719 not. The Christian evangelical world is a world of good people. Thank God, 525 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:35.920 and this faith is not a faith of deceivers. Not to the place, 526 00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:39.519 and thank God, that there are filters, there are no more cases 527 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:43.599 that do not come to light. And then I' m struggling with one 528 00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:46.639 of them who' s serious. They' re serious. They are serious 529 00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:54.719 in this sense, the messianic syndrome of some Christian leaders that has that synome 530 00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:59.639 of total anointing or I don' t know what, I don' t 531 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:05.079 know how much, and that one thing is a person who has charisma and 532 00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.400 who has it because it is given to him and does things well and is 533 00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:12.639 honored and such I know them. Thank God. That is not trialable, 534 00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:16.880 but on the contrary, we value it positively. But people who, attributing 535 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:27.320 themselves to that kind of enlightenment or that Christian anointing, demand for themselves almost 536 00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.599 veneration and all that. Those kind of characters people have to wake up. 537 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:36.760 This isn' t normal. This not even the Lord Jesus Christ himself was 538 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.840 so not and so not. Jesuposo was the person with the most perfect mental 539 00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:47.159 health that there was now a messianic syndrome. Sometimes people confuse it, that 540 00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:52.920 you have said it very well with anointing or with personal charisma, but let 541 00:54:53.679 --> 00:55:00.199 ' s say there are some characteristics. People who have messianic syndrome have an 542 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:04.639 excessive belief in a there are people who have to raise their self- esteem, 543 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.800 but you have to lower your telos, because a syndrome of importance, 544 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:13.039 of grandiosity, always thinking about great things that they are going to do, 545 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:19.199 that is, they have literally delusional ideas, of almost being a savior, 546 00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:22.880 a leader that depends on him on the life of others, but you also 547 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.280 see him in something very sencilito. You realize when they have that need to 548 00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:34.239 be admired, to be praised. They need that to survive the igualtry, 549 00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.519 yes, the self- idolatry and that idolizes them. Not that the one 550 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:42.559 who ends, they end exploitation of others. They are usually people who have 551 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:52.000 no empathy, usually or have no remorse, they have that manic behavior is 552 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.320 great good. They tend to be either impulsive or very aggressive with whom he 553 00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:59.360 is now opposed. They' re usually people who have some kind of disorder. 554 00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:05.480 No doubt. No doubt there is impostornous disorder, sometimes of different personality 555 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:10.400 or mood disorders. It does not have a system of the unin state goes 556 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:16.960 through mania or psychosis, or good people usually with disorders. It would be 557 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:22.559 and you have to when you see detect that, you have to look for 558 00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.559 a church that is not only healthy, but that is healthy, because if 559 00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:31.039 you are in a context or a community any kind, because that also happens 560 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.280 in NGOs happens in non- Christian contexts, of course. Of course, 561 00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:38.840 States in the context are making a self- criticism of ourselves too is that 562 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:44.119 we must flee from those people and that they hurt you at that level. 563 00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:49.559 Now we had to prepare more for our leadership so that and I think that 564 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:53.480 look at what I know Julio and as you who know a lot, most 565 00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:59.960 of the leaders in Spain are self- sacrificing people, hardworking people, people 566 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.480 who have given everything in return for nothing, people with an incredible call from 567 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.519 God. What happens is when there' s one thing that' s wrong. 568 00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:12.119 We always highlight what' s wrong. The madman said before the public 569 00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:19.559 exemplarity that Goma recommended let us make public recognitions of the people who are exemplary, 570 00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:25.400 because we always value the people who do it wrong. But there are 571 00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:30.199 people who do it well, who are exemplary, who have taken steps of 572 00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:36.119 giving, of self- denial, of giving up for the common good These 573 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:42.199 people are also generous that what we should even look at our contexts. People 574 00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:45.440 get divorced, they get divorced, but sometimes it' s hard for us 575 00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:50.400 to recognize marriages that have been married for forty or fifty years. We should 576 00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:55.519 throw them a party, a prize, a weekend trip to a hotel and 577 00:57:55.639 --> 00:58:01.000 why? Because you have been exemplary, you know endured fifty years, despite 578 00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:07.320 the sorrows, and we need those models for young people to say hey you 579 00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.079 can be happy after fifty years. That is, we ourselves, as communities 580 00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:16.960 of faith, must rethink certain things in order to begin to change in our 581 00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:21.679 society or our micro- society. Be an example, say, look, 582 00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:25.119 as we treat our elders, look, how we honor those who are examples, 583 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:31.559 look, how we treat our marriages in order to establish models of exemplaryness 584 00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:38.320 for Spanish society. That' s how he hears and speaks of this self 585 00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:45.519 - criticism that goes well and in all the human and religious organizations he cooks. 586 00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.960 We talked about the Catholic Church with the pedraztia, but we all have 587 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:54.400 to make a self- criticism and a bet to the day of these things 588 00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:59.480 and we do well to alert our own and strangers. No. But also 589 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:06.039 what are the challenges that the Church or the evangelical churches of Spain. At 590 00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:12.039 this moment we have before you from the perspective of your Role as President of 591 00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:15.760 the Evangelical Alliance, and besides, You have a particularity that conferences within the 592 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:21.079 country from the north, southeast and west, but you travel a lot you 593 00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:24.400 see the outside. Your own Church is a model, a growing laboratory that 594 00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:31.239 we all also take note of and do not celebrate. But what are the 595 00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:39.719 most important or immediate challenges facing the evangelical churches of Spain? Well, the 596 00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:44.199 challenges we had in the past already match those we have now. I remember 597 00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:50.880 the 1980s. The challenge was, on the one hand, implantation. We 598 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:55.079 need to implant. We did not reach forty years ago, thirty forty years 599 00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:58.440 ago, we did not reach a thousand churches. Today, as you well 600 00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:01.039 say, we are around a thousand churches and only the implantation has grown without 601 01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:06.480 ceasing to be a necessity, that we must continue planting churches without leaving it 602 01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:09.960 that we still have to plant. It is a challenge to say that we 603 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:15.400 have already reached a level now. I believe that there are the following challenges 604 01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:22.840 socially. One is secularization, Spanish society has become immensely secularized. That' 605 01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:27.079 s all in a few short decades. In a few short decades. If 606 01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.199 you read the studies that the Santa María Foundation makes of the evolution of Spanish 607 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:38.800 society, it does very interesting sociological studies, you see that the irreligiosity that 608 01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:45.000 there is in Spain is total and absolute. But that secularization, which means 609 01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:46.960 well, means that fewer and fewer people identify themselves as clients or attend a 610 01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:52.000 church on a regular basis. These are the data we are seeing from the 611 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:59.800 surveyors and the Santa María Foundation especially and also from the National Institute of Statistics. 612 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:05.239 Another author challenge we have is immigration. Immigration has transformed the landscape and 613 01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:10.400 the countryscape is not the landscape, landscape and religious countryscape of Spain. In 614 01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:15.719 other words, there is an increasing number of people from different cultures, different 615 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:21.800 religious religions living in our country. No, and the Evangelical Church, because 616 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:29.760 it is one of the villages benefiting from this massive influx of immigrants. Now, 617 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:35.840 immigration notice, I think they gave the data right now came out last 618 01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:39.320 week that it is already 13 percent of the Spanish population is immigrant and Spain 619 01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:45.039 is no longer the same. Then that immigration. How to not just integrate 620 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:47.199 it, because it used to talk a lot about the concept of integration. 621 01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.280 But the concept of integration is no longer so clear. Why, because there 622 01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:57.400 are going there are places, for example, here in Galicia, small villages 623 01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:00.760 where everyone is Pakistani. So this is a mistake for me, because a 624 01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:07.320 ghetto is being created, a ghetto where people integrate us. Catalonia I remember 625 01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:12.800 walking in the Raval district and literally entered the Raval. But I' m 626 01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:16.960 talking about the year two thousand, twenty years ago, and twenty- four 627 01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:20.480 years ago I entered the Raval. By the way, I got lost at 628 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:25.719 the Raval and I find myself in Morocco. I' m not talking if 629 01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:29.760 it' s bad or good. He had simply become a ghetto. So 630 01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:34.480 immigration is a challenge so that we, as evangelical churches, can give a 631 01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:39.239 response or a solution to Spanish society that no other entity, no June, 632 01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:46.239 can give that it is to integrate in normative contexts, in contexts of normative 633 01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:52.280 Spanish families to someone who belongs to another culture, some to another language and 634 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:59.280 to integrate it in one way. No one is doing that, no one, 635 01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:04.039 but they are congregating even through ghettos, except the Evangelical Church. Then 636 01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.199 it is an opportunity to bring these kinds of communities, as they bring the 637 01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.480 message to the Gospel. I believe that, in the third challenge, it 638 01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:15.360 has to do with pluralism. Why do I say pluralism, because Spanish society 639 01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:20.800 is increasingly pluralistic. I remember when I was a kid there was a TV 640 01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:24.400 station. Some will say that man who comes from the Middle Ages, because 641 01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:28.760 if he hears me, but he was a television station, he hears the 642 01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:32.880 business and in black and black, white and black, and the remote control 643 01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.079 was me, because my brothers, I was the little one and I said 644 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:43.880 get up, change the chain, but good every time. But within plurality, 645 01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:49.320 before there was only one religion, before there was only one family model, 646 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:57.079 only one sexuality. And this is one. The diversity of beliefs and 647 01:03:57.199 --> 01:04:01.800 values is immense and there are many options, including spiritual ones, among which 648 01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:08.840 Christianity is not the most attractive. Now, I think there' s the 649 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:13.760 Church of the Gospel. We can learn to live and dilog with people who 650 01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:18.960 are different why, because we have been different. We don' t come 651 01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:24.639 from being at the center of culture, we come from being at extra political 652 01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.800 cultural radio. Then we have been a minority and we can understand those who 653 01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:33.400 are different and we have that capacity to establish a dialogue that others do not 654 01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:39.320 have, because we are come and we are born of a dissent and we 655 01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:42.719 can understand the different ones. A fourth aspect I' m thinking like this, 656 01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:45.199 I think it would be a lack of leadership. As Church Angelica in 657 01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:49.960 Spain we need more young and well- prepared leaders. They are coming, 658 01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:55.880 but we need more, that is, leaders who need to connect with society, 659 01:04:56.519 --> 01:05:00.320 who live in society, who communicate the gospel. The gospel in a 660 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:03.679 different way. We cannot communicate it as we communicated twenty years ago at all. 661 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.920 It has to be a different way. Then we need more leaders. 662 01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:14.559 A group of young people and very interesting young leaders are already coming, but 663 01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:18.880 we need more. The transition. It is a challenge that we have to 664 01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:24.559 make that generational transition, that my generation pass the witness to a much younger 665 01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:28.559 leadership, and I think that later we could say, although this last point 666 01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:33.159 could almost be included, there are a number of internal challenges, as we 667 01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:36.880 have to work a lot for the unity of the Church. What we said 668 01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:42.679 now be exemplary so that there is no corruption and abuse of power, that 669 01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:47.639 is, let' s say have the ability to be a prophetic voice in 670 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:53.440 Spanish society. That prophetic element implies that we are as we are proposing this 671 01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:57.159 morning, a very interesting conversation Julio and I thank you for where you have 672 01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:01.719 taken it, because we are going to be exemplary and models to have a 673 01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:06.159 prophetic voice, not only seeing the straw in the other' s eye, 674 01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:11.039 but we said before cleaning ourselves from our beams. I believe that those five 675 01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:15.559 things, secularization, the change of society through immigration, pluralism and that new 676 01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:21.760 leadership that we need to enhance and the internal challenges that have to do with 677 01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:25.960 unity and look at. I think we are seeing at the most beautiful moment 678 01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:29.960 in the history of the Gospel Spain, which I have known for forty years, 679 01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:34.760 for here of unity that, by the way, I would like to 680 01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:39.440 hear how talking about that unity, the Congress that we are going to have 681 01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.760 next month, which is going to be like how you are going to do, 682 01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:48.719 how things are going, No, because I think it is a precious 683 01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:55.840 opportunity to be together and to be able to build together that spirit of unity 684 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:58.519 that we need to face the challenges and challenges that lie ahead. Yes, 685 01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:03.360 if there are no opportunities, we now have the Globo Congress here, in 686 01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:08.719 March, in Cordoba, which is massive and speaks of unity, unity of 687 01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:15.519 all sectors of women. Christian women are an atomic bomb in the positive sense 688 01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:23.480 of the word and are being summoned but thousands and to seek an important spirituality, 689 01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:29.320 common values that affect not only their own lives, but society, their 690 01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:36.360 children, their families. And then we have this other Congress of an appeal 691 01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:44.360 for a also radical spirituality in the most benign sense of the word of this 692 01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:49.360 ambiguity that there is yes but no yes, but then we will see a 693 01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:54.960 dedication at a time that is very disturbing to us and to Congress until he 694 01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.840 comes also at the end of April. Here in Reus, in Spain, 695 01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:04.840 with three men like Marians in the same Marcos Brunet and Benjamin Núñez, three 696 01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:09.559 young men are worth bem Jamin is thirty- eight years old, that is, 697 01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:13.760 the others are forty. I encourage all real people who may be listening 698 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.119 in different parts of Spain and making the effort, because I think it will 699 01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:23.119 be a unique opportunity that should not be missed. I really want to be 700 01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:25.640 there. Thank you, Marcos. I really appreciate it, because we really 701 01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:31.199 want it to be very positive. Very inspirational for everyone who knows me, 702 01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:38.399 they know that anything doesn' t convince me anymore. Yes, we respect 703 01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:44.560 a number of things, others we do not respect because they are spurious and 704 01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:49.560 then we are tired of false models and false comics that lead to nothing. 705 01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:55.880 On the contrary, but in this case, yes. But listen to Mark, 706 01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:02.359 the theme of evangelical social work. In Spain we have addressed this issue 707 01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:08.960 is we have been a growing forest. As Jordi Poyol said, when a 708 01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:14.680 tree makes a lot of noise, but when a forest grows it makes no 709 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:23.199 noise. A forest has grown silently in Spain with a humanitarian, high- 710 01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:31.600 voltage vein, and it is the evangelical Christian organizations that are colossal. Right 711 01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:38.319 now we have Samara de Tinpurs in Barcelona bringing in people with congenic heart problems 712 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:42.399 from the Third World who cannot afford to pay for them. Costear. These 713 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:49.079 operations and the Frankling Graham organization cost it. The evangelical churches come here to 714 01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:56.399 adopt these families and it is a very costly matter. But I remember in 715 01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:01.039 Galicia, dignity. Here so many on s defined top- level organizations. 716 01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:09.279 Here, therefore, we have solidarity initiatives, juventutivity, well, closing the 717 01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:13.760 sea we have everywhere, that is to say after. I believe that of 718 01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:18.960 the Catholic world, obviously, faces and company that we value positively. The 719 01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:24.680 evangelical social work is immense. It' s huge now look. There' 720 01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:31.319 s a man element. There are many evangelical social works that serve basic needs. 721 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:38.199 I believe that all the ebagetic churches in Spain those five zero churches offer 722 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:44.960 food or clothing or yes immediate help to people coming is in need. Others 723 01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:49.359 provide educational support. We know educational programs for children, even adults, for 724 01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:54.760 all people who have, say, difficulties, access to education the whole issue 725 01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:59.960 of recovery of addictions, no longer only great entities such as Ramas, Challenge 726 01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:04.720 or Bethel that notice the five most important in the world. From the world. 727 01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:10.479 Are they there? Three? There are three of them, three are 728 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:15.640 Spanish of Spanish origin or elements of community development in general, which also sometimes 729 01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:20.680 occur mainly in smaller communities. Well all that is assistance to any kind of 730 01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:27.960 vulnerable group. The evangelical churches, all stand out from their creation, from 731 01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.720 that their birth in the social work. Now and well, that' s 732 01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.560 why all the churches, also the Catholic and the Orthodox churches, do it. 733 01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:38.680 But it' s not the same. He' s talking and I 734 01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:40.079 ' m going to explain why it' s not the same. I was 735 01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:45.359 just talking to an architect here, about my city of lugo, and he 736 01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:47.760 ' s asking me how we worked, how we did. And good, 737 01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:51.119 but all this social work, that you do, all this food that you 738 01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:56.760 give, all these educational programs, that you do at last, all that 739 01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:00.399 is assistance from those groups that are at risk of exclusion or vulnerable, you 740 01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:04.960 do not do you have subsidized and I said no. The effort is born 741 01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:10.920 precisely from our own Church of voluntary contributions, that is, the evangelical social 742 01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:16.319 work is born of the evangelicals, it is born of that effort that we 743 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:19.880 are all making to bring that forward. In certain contexts, when there are 744 01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:27.359 NGOs, we can say tender or present some kind of subsidy, but we 745 01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:30.359 do not depend on the grant. In fact, when the pandemic came, 746 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:36.239 many NGOs closed because they depended on subsidies. The social work of the church 747 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:44.279 not only closed us down, but increased for testimonies and astonishment of politicians and 748 01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:47.680 local governments, that is, we continued to give because we do not depend 749 01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:54.800 on subsidies, we depend on our voluntary contribution. And there is the value 750 01:12:55.239 --> 01:13:00.119 of evangelical social work. Why, because the impact that either a person or 751 01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:05.880 a community is made is directly proportional to the effort, to the cost that 752 01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:13.479 I have meant to help that person. If a person I help him with 753 01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:16.920 a food purchase or help him because he has to buy glasses for his children 754 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.880 and he doesn' t have me paying him, that person will value much 755 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:26.199 more than if the ng X and gregate gives him the food or pays him 756 01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:30.279 a pair of glasses, because it seems he has an obligation to do. 757 01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:33.039 Once a woman tells us you have an obligation to help me or why, 758 01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:38.640 because for that she gives you money. The government forgives, ma' am, 759 01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:41.239 but I have no obligation. I do it out of love and because 760 01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:43.520 I want to. But I know when I think he gets very confused, 761 01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:46.479 he doesn' t give the government a hard time to do it, no, 762 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.920 which surprised him. So the evangelical social work. I want to put 763 01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:58.119 it into value because, because that' s how we are born out of 764 01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:00.520 our own effort. I remember once that the President of the Senate was in 765 01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:08.880 our church here lugo and such the Speaker of the Galician Parliament and well several 766 01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:13.560 senators and deputies when they saw the work said we do not understand all that 767 01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:15.279 you are doing. We don' t understand, but why you' re 768 01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:20.399 doing this. I do it for the same reason that you are in politics, 769 01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:26.479 why I did it for the common good. I hope you are in 770 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.439 politics for the common good. Yes. Yeah. Yes, of course, 771 01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:30.399 yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that' s right, yeah. 772 01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:38.840 I hope if we want to be a differentiating factor in our Community, we 773 01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:42.800 do not approach our governments. To give me give me, but we approach 774 01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:47.319 our governments to say here we are, we can help, we can transform 775 01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:49.560 our communities. And so, however small the Church may be, however small 776 01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:54.680 the Evangelical Community may be, it has a factor and a possibility of change 777 01:14:54.680 --> 01:15:00.319 and transformation of a life far greater than a governing institution regrets, much less. 778 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.760 And that' s why we have to value what we do. Yes, 779 01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:06.319 certainly, certainly, and that' s why we' re here on 780 01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:11.439 the train of life. We have always wanted to raise the category of importance 781 01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:15.279 that we have been, because that silent forest that emerges and that good, 782 01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:23.840 because it now has presence in many areas, in many institutional, local, 783 01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:28.960 national, community, also at all levels. Not only is the culctic issue, 784 01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:32.439 which is part of our vital vein and which we value very much, 785 01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:39.359 but it is our ethics, our worldview of life and our contribution that is 786 01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:42.960 in DNA. That we do not do this to make the world demonstrate that 787 01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:48.439 we are good children, but that it is born from the depths of the 788 01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:54.479 soul to say goodbye already to Marcos the evangelical Alliance, that there is in 789 01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:59.439 sight, that we have in agenda, that we can take note after the 790 01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:03.800 meeting of idea, that it was the one as an annual vocation, very 791 01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:06.600 interesting, by the way, in Jerez of the border, is that it 792 01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:12.439 was very, very interesting the dialogue that there was, the table turns out 793 01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:17.479 that it was raised, had the mayor of Jerez, were quite political of 794 01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:20.079 all the formations, a very interesting dialogue on how the ideology builds the freedoms 795 01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:25.199 or destroys them? Very interesting the dialogue that took place, But well, 796 01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:30.159 within the future plans of the Mageric Aliance we continue to work on those things 797 01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:33.279 that concern us, such as the strengthening of evangelical unity, which promises dialogue 798 01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:38.119 or coloration. Let' s say in other different evangelical churches. In Spain 799 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:43.479 there is our concept of church and mission, because we have another concept of 800 01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:48.439 church and society. How to be impacted on society by the media through digital 801 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:54.680 Protestant and Protestant aeropaid in general and the social work behind the Solidarity Alliance. 802 01:16:56.520 --> 01:17:00.720 So we' re doing a lot of online training that has to do with 803 01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:04.239 women and society, for example, with the whole issue of leadership or pastoral 804 01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:09.359 care. We are generating resources for pastoral care that you do not find in 805 01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:16.039 other places, such as we were now talking about spiritual abuse or mourning of 806 01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:21.119 how to intervene in situations of mourning, suicide prevention, for example, we 807 01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:26.560 did and we were going to do this year again how to work with new 808 01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:30.840 families, what happens with new families arrive and new family models that appear in 809 01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:33.760 our churches. How we' re going to deal with that, what we 810 01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:38.199 ' re going to do So, what we' re going to do is 811 01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:43.600 we' re going to bring together leadership from Spain, for example, in 812 01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:48.000 the family area that works that have that as a mission, put them together, 813 01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:49.920 reflect, talk and produce documents that serve as a beacon and light for 814 01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:53.880 all evangelicals. Then we are going to do now in Barcelona, very soon, 815 01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:57.760 on May one, a meeting for young leadership is, the leadership that 816 01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:05.239 I spoke before to put it together with in partnerships, in liaison with Geadway 817 01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:11.960 Charts in Dallas, a church that is leading in global leadership. And we 818 01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:15.640 ' re going to be working and well, it' s going to be 819 01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:19.319 very good in that sense. And we are also influencing areas like, for 820 01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:24.479 example, bioethics, and we are now working hard on everything that is the 821 01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:30.399 care of creation and we are preparing documents on everything that has to do not 822 01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:32.720 only with abortion, which is classic, but now with euthanasia, the new 823 01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:38.399 law of euthanasia and how to give the churches tools so that pastoral care can 824 01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:45.000 address this. When someone in your church can tell you I' m going 825 01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:49.439 to apply for the autanasia that we' ve already experienced, I particularly have 826 01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:55.399 already lived it in my own church. It is new challenges, new challenges 827 01:18:55.439 --> 01:19:00.000 and the Evangelical Alliance that is trying to provide that training and education that results 828 01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:04.840 in a social impact. Prepare the church well to result in a social impact. 829 01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:13.319 And this is very important. So anyone who wants to take advantage of 830 01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:18.800 your platform to enter the Evangelical Alliance is I want to support this vision, 831 01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:23.319 as it will be very welcome in all respects. Yes, by the way, 832 01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:29.399 it is a good opportunity to join the Evangelical Alliance as churches or individuals 833 01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:34.199 for many years and we are in it and it is an organization that represents 834 01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:40.119 us very dignifiedly and with a vanguard work and that in addition, we will 835 01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:45.720 do well to cooperate proactively with one of the most illustrious organizations of ours, 836 01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:48.760 the Spanish Evangelical Alliance. There is the web and easy to access and everything 837 01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:55.119 that Marcos was explaining to us more, our collaboration also yearly. It' 838 01:19:55.159 --> 01:19:59.159 s also going to be minimal, but it' s very valuable among all 839 01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:03.079 of us. We add Mark dear friend, for it has been an immense 840 01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:06.880 pleasure. If God wants to, we will see each other in April, 841 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:14.079 yes, yes, very much looking forward to seeing you and seeing you there 842 01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:16.960 in this great Congress of Res to continue working until he comes, so we 843 01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:21.560 will see each other until he comes there in April, in your land Thank 844 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:26.399 you, friend, I send you a very affectionate hug, sea opening a 845 01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:56.520 greeting for every day until soon, until always. Bye to the train of 846 01:20:56.560 --> 01:21:03.479 life life moment road I got lost I got angry and walked away from you, 847 01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:15.279 and it was so many my questions. I passed the coransolo at what 848 01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:24.680 moment of the mesote road I felt that I could not and I left you 849 01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:30.680 and it is that there were so many words. I heard your secrets already 850 01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:48.399 that away from you and egg without explanation. I egg today running towards your 851 01:21:48.520 --> 01:22:05.239 fathoms. I hit your hamor egg aus metal uevo hug me your words. 852 01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:24.000 Fire to whom I charge egg what moment. He also believed that you gave 853 01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:32.000 up and walked away, and it was that I did not count on your 854 01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:40.960 grace that I chanted in what moment of the way I got off. I 855 01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:47.000 felt like I couldn' t see you, and it' s just that 856 01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:55.800 there were so many words. I heard it already your belief like that, 857 01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:10.720 sir is far to you and egg without explanation. Egg I run towards your 858 01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:27.319 arms, I beat your love. Absent egg, egg, your words fill 859 01:23:27.479 --> 01:24:00.880 me. Fire here to my heart. I smell vo, egg without explanation, 860 01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:23.039 egg I run towards your arms, I hit your amber you see it 861 01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:49.439 in your pallas. I play here, folks, I play until he comes 862 01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:56.439 up to that one today closer than ever. We invite you to the second 863 01:24:56.600 --> 01:25:01.920 edition of this Interdenominational Congress aimed at the whole Body of Christ in Spain and 864 01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:08.239 Europe, which will take place from 26 to 28 April in the Fira de 865 01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:15.359 Reus Tarragona, will be with us the international speakers Mariano sen Igual, Benjamin 866 01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:27.720 Núñez and Marcos Brunet. All clear watlan, well plotted bu pramado for more 867 01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:34.079 information, you can enter our wwwwww. Until he comes. Point is either 868 01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:39.920 write to six, one, six, eight, eight, one, five, 869 01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:43.800 seven, one, six hundred, sixteen, eight hundred, eighty- 870 01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:48.279 one, five hundred seventy- one and consult prices and registration modalities. Don 871 01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:55.000 ' t miss the opportunity to participate in this great call until he comes. 872 01:25:55.279 --> 01:26:14.279 Until he comes or prunes or before your well- loved gramate and every eye 873 01:26:14.560 --> 01:27:01.840 will see you traveling on the train of life. Ladies, yes, gentlemen, 874 01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:09.319 we have the pleasure of having with us also in this masterly carriage airily, 875 01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:14.880 who was going to tell us? Look, the Martians of Mars and 876 01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:20.199 Jupiter are watching us. Yes, yes, Mr Mus has arrived there, 877 01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:27.640 He has made a connection to the earth and they are amazed. They don 878 01:27:27.760 --> 01:27:31.319 ' t understand us at all well, because they have another language, but 879 01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:41.399 who was going to tell us that we could really have this way of working 880 01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:45.159 and establishing communication that isn' t my robot or my hologram that he' 881 01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:48.760 s talking to. I am Julio Perez, in flesh and blood, spirit 882 01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:54.079 soul and body. Here, but we have Juan Varela, as he announced, 883 01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:59.680 also director and founder of the Family Training Institute, among other things, 884 01:27:59.960 --> 01:28:05.680 international conferences of luxury, where they invite him. So much, because I 885 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:09.760 welcome my good friend, Juan Varela, Today we will talk about understanding the 886 01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:14.560 keys of the current culture. The topic is very interesting, because I told 887 01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:17.199 Juan, you, besides being an expert in family master, in family therapy 888 01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:26.159 and counseling and in books, as a really successful writer, because his books 889 01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:30.760 are very followed on the subject of family, he is also a sociologist, 890 01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:38.960 because he has very, very interesting notes. Well, well, welcome Juan 891 01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:44.199 Varela, my friend, my dear Julio, listen with those presentations is that 892 01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:47.159 you raise self- esteem to the most painted. I really do. I 893 01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:49.039 don' t think you' re objective. What happens is that it unites 894 01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:54.119 us so good friendship that you love me very much, no, but it 895 01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:57.640 ' s true. I' m really telling you Look, I hear and 896 01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:01.000 read comments from you about sociology. In fact, give features in your sociology 897 01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:08.359 writings about trends and so talking about a topic like today' s understanding the 898 01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:12.239 keys of today' s culture. Yeah, man, you' re up 899 01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:15.279 to date on this, but a lot. Dear friend, after your travels, 900 01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:21.680 you' ve been for good, you' re already closing the year 901 01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:25.279 with many trips. In the two thousand twenty- three, no yes, 902 01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:30.479 yes, two thousand twenty- three wine replete and two thousand twenty- four 903 01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:31.000 we did not start strong. Also in January, well, at the end 904 01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:36.439 of January, end of January we already traveled to Costa Rica. We had 905 01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:43.960 a beautiful convention with the churches, abundant life there a very nice congress. 906 01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:49.119 Then we were in Honduras, in the CCI Church and the International Christian Center 907 01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:53.279 of Pastor Rene Peñal Go to such a man. Yes, I know very 908 01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:57.079 well. Yeah, yeah, and look in the eye now. Next month 909 01:29:57.159 --> 01:30:02.640 we leave for Peru del Mar. If then a server will only be traveling 910 01:30:02.760 --> 01:30:10.239 it is only ten days to Chile and then we expect trips also by El 911 01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:15.279 Salvador back through Costa Rica and internationally. I don' t know if anyone 912 01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:17.880 else will come up out there, but then the rest of the year, 913 01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:21.159 anywhere on our skin, of all that, if it' s our dynamic. 914 01:30:21.439 --> 01:30:26.439 And as long as the Lord gives us strength and opens doors, well, 915 01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:30.439 there we continue July. Yes, sir, yes, sir I remember 916 01:30:30.439 --> 01:30:34.560 you, as we speak that you can enter the page of the Ministry Juan 917 01:30:34.800 --> 01:30:39.319 Varela dot is true. Yes, if that ministry, Ministry Juan Valela, 918 01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:45.279 not Ministry. Juan Varela It means there, apart from bibliography, good resources, 919 01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:53.640 courses and many very interesting topics that can access them directly. Juan, 920 01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:59.359 a subject like this, understanding the keys of the current culture hears is that 921 01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:04.880 since we talked with our friend Marcos, a great common friend. And the 922 01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:10.880 truth is that from the nineties, not going so far from the eighties to 923 01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:17.720 the nineties, now this world is another world only in thirty years or in 924 01:31:17.800 --> 01:31:23.880 thirty- four years, from the nineties, beginning until now this world is 925 01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:30.159 another world. Then the truth. Those thirty years, dear Julio. In 926 01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:32.760 those thirty years there have been more changes and more radicals than in the entire 927 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:38.479 last century, complete even with world wars and the whole thing, that is, 928 01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:43.520 the acceleration of vertigo in social changes has been impressive in the last thirty 929 01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:47.439 years. I wouldn' t say for putting a more round date. Since 930 01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:53.399 the year two thousand, especially since the year two thousand beginning the new Millennium. 931 01:31:53.920 --> 01:31:58.359 The changes have been impressive and are now going to go more and more 932 01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:02.239 in a hurry and each year we will attend a twist in significant social changes 933 01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:08.680 in any order. Yes, there is an acceleration of everything not and clear, 934 01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:15.439 on the one hand, we applaud and celebrate the scientific, medical, 935 01:32:17.039 --> 01:32:24.199 technological advances that help us to improve collective health and human well- being. 936 01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:28.359 All that is, but at the same time there are many of these things 937 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:34.479 that are becoming a danger to our own potential self- destruction. And it 938 01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:42.760 ' s not exaggerating there we have Aputin now saying how you mess with me 939 01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:45.279 for assets. Well, this is a this is also just a bravoconada, 940 01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:50.279 because he would be destroyed as well. But he but means we have the 941 01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:59.640 North Korean and we have the silent Chinese who exactly the axis Some call him 942 01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:03.039 the axis of evil, others tell him the empire of the dragon, which 943 01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:06.520 is the one who arrives. But notice that China is a very curious thing, 944 01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:12.239 because China is a kind of capitalist communism, if you can understand those 945 01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:18.439 terms, not paradoxically for an internal dictatorship and externally the aggressive capitalist. Totally 946 01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:24.159 curious and notice that China, besides already surpasses the United States in many trade 947 01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:30.119 issues is already, of course, global. China’ s commercial deployment surpasses 948 01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:32.439 the United States. It' s tremendous right now. It' s tremendous, 949 01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:35.279 it' s coming down hard on the dragon' s empire or the 950 01:33:35.279 --> 01:33:38.359 axis of evil as you say. In addition, note that in the face 951 01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:43.119 of the seven seven most ind countries that does not fail to represent the West, 952 01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:49.880 has emerged a few years ago the group of brig brieg I think it 953 01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:56.880 includes Russia, China, India, South Africa, and it is very interesting 954 01:33:57.039 --> 01:34:00.560 because that is becoming the eastern axis against the gesis, which have always had 955 01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:06.399 to do with the western axis. Brazil, brick Brazil, Russia, India, 956 01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:11.319 South Africa is the emerging axis that some already call the eastern axis, 957 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:15.119 because more is formed by countries of the East than of the West and is 958 01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:19.039 opposing the classic g seven, which would represent the West. This polarizes like 959 01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:21.800 the Cold War. That' s not all. It' s tremendous to 960 01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:28.159 listen to me. I' m not so sure about what it' s 961 01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:31.840 called Mr Puting Eh' s equanimity, because this gentleman is so crazy and 962 01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:36.079 has such absolute power that, as he gets very hot engines, I don 963 01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:41.279 ' t think he cares much about pulsating the button, even though he self 964 01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:44.039 - destructs at a given moment so says. Yeah, yeah, he' 965 01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:46.640 s got a profile that' s a good one. It' s like 966 01:34:46.640 --> 01:34:53.680 Korean. Not if they are I are not entirely predictable to Putin a little 967 01:34:53.760 --> 01:35:00.239 more, but then and no. And the problem is a nuclear winter on 968 01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:06.439 the planet that would affect everyone and relationships look at you, which now happens 969 01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:13.600 with the alteration of the otis that are there in the Red Sea attacking and 970 01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:19.720 we have good hot spots and many issues. Indias is emerging as a giant 971 01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:24.439 that is going to give a lot to talk about in the coming years. 972 01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:31.960 India is going to dispute primacy with China of the world, also technologically. 973 01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:38.039 The technological are the pointers. So let' s see, I don' 974 01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:43.079 t know, but all this tells us about and artificial intelligence becoming an ally 975 01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:47.920 now. But it' s a potential danger to this taxi driver. When 976 01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:55.119 I read Isatashmok' s books back in the seventies at the beginning, I 977 01:35:55.800 --> 01:35:58.359 said well, this is very nice. Besides, I was very imaginative, 978 01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:02.960 founding empire, all I robot and all these things I said. But no. 979 01:36:03.159 --> 01:36:06.199 This will not, no, for it will not be a happy world 980 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:11.439 of Hurley, the great dystopia of Hasley, a happy world. I said 981 01:36:11.640 --> 01:36:14.800 this, no, this And when I read, then, ahorol, not 982 01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:17.720 too. No, man ninety- four, of course. This, no 983 01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:24.039 or no. Reality overcame fiction. Total. Total, total, total, 984 01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:29.760 reality truth. That is why, when you are introducing the issue, it 985 01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:32.800 is impressive because at the systemic level, that is, at the political level, 986 01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:36.479 at the social level, at the biological level, this is in the 987 01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:40.359 terminal phase. This is the great reality. This is in terminal phase. 988 01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:45.840 Hence the veracity, that popular saying that says the hour before the Dawn is 989 01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:49.880 the darkest and in that hour we are, but certainly the darkest at all 990 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:54.960 levels. The good news is it' s coming to the Dawn. That 991 01:36:55.000 --> 01:37:00.960 ' s the good news. There, notice, the Bible Jesus, at 992 01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:05.520 the end of the Gospel of Matthew and parallel texts, advocates the signs of 993 01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:10.680 the end of the times that are now, in fact, between the 20th 994 01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:15.680 century the 21st are accelerating and several of them already having a fulfillment and guessing 995 01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:23.399 on the horizon with great certainty. This is what we are actually assisting now. 996 01:37:23.479 --> 01:37:27.600 But there' s that apocalypse clock that you know has been on TV, 997 01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:32.920 on the most important presses last month and last year and during the aftermath 998 01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:38.319 of the pandemic. The clock of the Apocalypse is called the clock of the 999 01:37:38.479 --> 01:37:42.479 end of the world in a somewhat pejorative way. But they are wise, 1000 01:37:43.399 --> 01:37:49.720 sociologists, writers, scientists, that is, a multidisciplinary team that they speak. 1001 01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:57.880 They are neither believers nor eschatologically speaking, but they deduce from all potential 1002 01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:02.239 threats, including nuclear threats and others, planetary alteration and other more latent ones. 1003 01:38:04.399 --> 01:38:09.439 We are ninety seconds from the end of the world, according to them. 1004 01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:15.039 Hey in that ninety- second watch, hey, it means that it 1005 01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:19.439 ' s also, obviously, a metaphor not that we' re too close 1006 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:21.000 to self- destructing. According to them, yes, yes, this is 1007 01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:26.239 the reality. In fact, July. Evidently, notice that you are talking 1008 01:38:26.319 --> 01:38:30.319 about people who do not take into account, say, the authority of the 1009 01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:34.039 Bible, or all the prophecies that are already being fulfilled and that only on 1010 01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:41.279 a social, political and geological level, say or environmental, are already predicting 1011 01:38:41.319 --> 01:38:44.399 the end of humanity. But the interesting thing is that, obviously, we 1012 01:38:44.439 --> 01:38:47.359 are in the last stage of the last times and the other day notice that 1013 01:38:47.439 --> 01:38:50.520 someone told me there in Honduras, precisely I said look. But it' 1014 01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:55.720 s clear the last few times. The apostles also said they were in the 1015 01:38:55.840 --> 01:39:00.439 latter days. And I say clearly because the apostles inaugurate God' s stopwatch. 1016 01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:02.560 The countdown is set in motion when the Christian Church is born with the 1017 01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:05.720 proclamation of preaching the Gospel to the whole world and then it will come to 1018 01:39:05.720 --> 01:39:09.960 an end. Therefore, the apostles clearly were in the latter times. They 1019 01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:15.239 inaugurated the first stage of recent times and we will inaugurate the last stage of 1020 01:39:15.359 --> 01:39:18.039 recent times. This is not the reality. Without a doubt, our children 1021 01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:26.039 or grandchildren will most likely be the witnesses of the return of Jesus in Glory, 1022 01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:30.840 where every eye will see him and before there will be a world situation, 1023 01:39:31.680 --> 01:39:36.079 the Bible advocates it. God gives time in his love, in his 1024 01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:43.079 patience, as the Apostle Peter tells them, so that many of us may 1025 01:39:43.159 --> 01:39:48.079 receive salvation through repentance. But there comes a time when God puts an end 1026 01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:53.560 to the issue. That' s right and that' s it and I 1027 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:57.600 think this has to do a little straight and straight with understanding the keys to 1028 01:39:57.640 --> 01:40:01.159 today' s culture. So some John scrapes of this subject. Yes, 1029 01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:08.279 well, all this actually, Julio has a lot to do with the book 1030 01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:12.239 that God through August will be published which we already talked about your program. 1031 01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:15.079 That' s good. Previously and in August. God willing, through Whittacker 1032 01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:20.399 House, it will come out in America and then, obviously, when it 1033 01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:25.119 comes out in America, here comes a quickie. Besides, the book' 1034 01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:30.520 s coming out. So that' s all I would say in that book 1035 01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:31.640 Julio and I concentrate a little bit. It' s true that I like 1036 01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:35.520 it, I' m not a degree sociologist, but I do have a 1037 01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:38.159 vocation and I really like to investigate. Yes, sir, I do attest 1038 01:40:38.199 --> 01:40:42.119 to them, yes, yes, I do not say it because you told 1039 01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:44.680 me that I am a sociologist, I am not a bachelor' s degree, 1040 01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:47.439 but I am a vocation. So I really like to investigate and in 1041 01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:55.640 this book I pick up, I think a rather interesting analysis of the complexities 1042 01:40:55.760 --> 01:40:59.600 of the world in which we find ourselves and how the world is in terminal 1043 01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:04.359 phase and how we are going towards that concept that some have already called the 1044 01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:10.560 sovereignty of the individual years ago, which is no longer a detached individual from 1045 01:41:10.680 --> 01:41:15.720 every tradition, detached from every cultural context, from every predictable universe, an 1046 01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:17.720 individual who reinvents himself how and when he wants. And all this has a 1047 01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:21.279 lot to do with the disintegration of the world in which we find ourselves then, 1048 01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:27.479 in the book I develop that the world is evidently drifting away. And 1049 01:41:27.600 --> 01:41:30.840 it goes adrift from the moment when the twenty- first century was inaugurated two 1050 01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:34.520 thousand and so forth, from the moment we began to attend well all those 1051 01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:40.720 events that had already been advocating vertiginous changes, such as the fall of the 1052 01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:45.960 Twin Towers, the Islamic State, in the imposition of globalized terror, everything 1053 01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:49.319 that had to do with the implantation of gender ideology almost a couple of decades 1054 01:41:49.439 --> 01:41:53.920 ago in everything that is Europe And how of that postmodernity already extinguished from the 1055 01:41:54.239 --> 01:41:59.199 nineties, more or less, we entered not only into liquid modernity, of 1056 01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:02.520 which we have talked enough with you on some occasions, but now we are 1057 01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:13.079 Julio, in the gaseous society. We have abandoned it is interesting because in 1058 01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:16.800 the book I work the concept of States of good matter remember that when we 1059 01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:21.239 went alcohol and told us that matter can be divided into three solid, liquid 1060 01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:29.319 and gaseous states. The interesting thing here, Julio is that good matter to 1061 01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:34.119 understand us quickly in matter is formed by particles, particles that have volume weight, 1062 01:42:34.199 --> 01:42:40.000 being the smallest atoms, then the matter or atoms that compose it to 1063 01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:44.600 understand us when they are very close together, those atoms united by what is 1064 01:42:44.640 --> 01:42:48.119 called in physics the forces of cohesion. When atoms are very united, we 1065 01:42:48.319 --> 01:42:53.439 talk about matter being in a solid state, which has a permanent volume that 1066 01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:57.680 does not vary its supposition or movement. Well, we talk about the matter 1067 01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:00.760 in solid states when it' s in liquid state. That means that the 1068 01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:04.279 particles that make up matter are a little bit more separate. The cohesion forces 1069 01:43:04.319 --> 01:43:08.960 are a little bit more separate. In liquid States, therefore, some variability 1070 01:43:09.319 --> 01:43:14.680 of matter may vary, its volume does not vary, but it may vary 1071 01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:19.920 its position, to say the least, and may take different forms. And, 1072 01:43:19.960 --> 01:43:26.159 obviously, when the particles that make up matter walk free, so to 1073 01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:29.840 speak, in space, those particles are free without any forces of cohesion. 1074 01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:36.239 We are already talking about a gaseous state and note that in sociology we have 1075 01:43:36.399 --> 01:43:39.800 travelled through all these states and we are already in the gaseous state. We 1076 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:45.159 have moved from the solidity of a predictable world to the liquidity of a changing 1077 01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:49.199 world and now, we are entering into the gaseous society, where there are 1078 01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:56.640 no longer any cohesion forces, where everything predictable ends and that becomes what has 1079 01:43:57.079 --> 01:44:00.720 also been coined as the term entor Vani, the buca environment, as it 1080 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:05.880 has become obsolete to us. When we talked about the buca environment, a 1081 01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:09.880 volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous world. That' s already become obsolete. 1082 01:44:10.279 --> 01:44:13.279 And now we have to talk about a world or a vani environment that 1083 01:44:13.439 --> 01:44:18.319 speaks Julio, how curious. The vanni environment is characteristic, corresponding to the 1084 01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:26.680 English acronym, of a fragmented, anxious, nonlinear and incomprehensible world, not 1085 01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:30.800 linear, because in the gaseous state nothing is predictable. Therefore, it is 1086 01:44:30.920 --> 01:44:38.079 incomprehensible. And then it' s interesting, because we' re already in 1087 01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:42.600 that gaseous society, where everything that was a predictable universe, where everything that 1088 01:44:42.720 --> 01:44:45.319 was the search for a common good, everything that was the rites, the 1089 01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:49.600 traditions, all that has died. And of that liquidity where everyone already assumes 1090 01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:57.119 the identity they want and the characteristics they want. We' re already in 1091 01:44:57.119 --> 01:45:00.439 the gas. The dangerous thing about the gaseous society we' re entering is 1092 01:45:00.399 --> 01:45:05.039 that it' s chaotic. In fact, the word gas shares the same 1093 01:45:05.159 --> 01:45:12.960 root as chaos and the gaseous society is absolutely chaotic and brings us in truth 1094 01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:17.479 that concept that many have already defined as the sovereignty of the individual, which 1095 01:45:18.159 --> 01:45:23.000 is the final concept. After having traveled, and if we had to go 1096 01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:29.000 back dear July, where man begins to disassociate himself from all this and begins 1097 01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:31.920 to enter into that individuality without borders, we would obviously have to go to 1098 01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:36.720 Genesis three remember also the Tower of Babel, as men wanted to become a 1099 01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:43.520 name and God confuses them truth, and all this leads us at the end 1100 01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:51.000 of history, to a society where really that emancipation of man, that principle 1101 01:45:51.560 --> 01:45:57.039 of autonomy born in Genesis three, has led us to what we are today 1102 01:45:57.039 --> 01:46:00.439 and was going to say something that we are living today, to what we 1103 01:46:00.439 --> 01:46:04.720 are suffering from a world completely drifting away, where there are, besides levels 1104 01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:15.880 of anxiety as we cannot imagine. We had lectures with Pablo Martínez, what 1105 01:46:15.920 --> 01:46:21.880 we call ministerial refresher courses, and Pablo Martínez was talking precisely about the tremendous 1106 01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:28.479 anxious environment in which we find ourselves. And today there is much talk of 1107 01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:32.960 existential fatigue, that is, when we have broken everything, when there is 1108 01:46:33.079 --> 01:46:36.800 an ethics of any kind that awaits us, that is, a fatigue of 1109 01:46:36.840 --> 01:46:40.520 what has to do with existence awaits us, because there are no rules, 1110 01:46:40.680 --> 01:46:43.279 there are no ethics, there are no values, there is nothing to live 1111 01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:45.520 for, there is nothing to fight for. Everything is clear, and then 1112 01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:54.039 we enter anxious environments, in depressive environments. Or are you just the mention 1113 01:46:54.079 --> 01:46:59.560 of daring because it' s pertinent. Oh, be for chapter four. 1114 01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:03.680 He' s telling us about all this. And whether you are four he 1115 01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:11.279 says lie, kill, steal and commit adultery, prevail and murder after murder 1116 01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:16.439 happens, for which he says the land will mourn and every inhabitant of it 1117 01:47:16.439 --> 01:47:19.399 will be extinguished. And that word, every indweller of it will be extinguished. 1118 01:47:19.800 --> 01:47:25.119 It has to do with the existential fatigue we are living today. But, 1119 01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:29.720 well, this is the terrible thing about this society that we' re 1120 01:47:29.720 --> 01:47:36.199 running out of. It is interesting that every section you have mentioned for a 1121 01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:45.399 monothematic conversation, but, for example, you are also based on this on 1122 01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:48.720 the principle that our society has changed the truth of God for the lie, 1123 01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:56.039 a lie that we have socialized and that we have loved as supposed truths, 1124 01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:01.720 we have even given a form to a makeup is called forgiveness Julio. That 1125 01:48:01.720 --> 01:48:05.279 ' s the truth. The culture of lies, in which we are already 1126 01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:10.960 installed, is the culture of the p post truth has been overcome. Then 1127 01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:16.159 truth no longer exists as absolute concepts, but truths. This is the sad 1128 01:48:16.239 --> 01:48:20.079 reality. We' re confusing the truth and the lie. This is terrible. 1129 01:48:20.600 --> 01:48:25.359 It was said the other day one of the questions about artificial intelligence, 1130 01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:30.079 that it is I have done some tests with some friends that we have and 1131 01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:38.640 the truth is shocking. It' s really shocking. But it was said 1132 01:48:38.680 --> 01:48:44.159 in one of the last publications that came out in the presses is we' 1133 01:48:44.159 --> 01:48:47.159 re not going to say an expert in artificial intelligence. It' s almost 1134 01:48:47.279 --> 01:48:50.439 done, but it' s going to be in a flat way. We 1135 01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:59.199 will not differentiate falsehoods and lies at all from the questions of the things of 1136 01:48:59.279 --> 01:49:02.960 life. We' re not going to identify them, we' re not 1137 01:49:02.960 --> 01:49:06.880 going to terrible, we' re not going to have a non- contrast 1138 01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:16.399 possibility in such a way that social stereotypes and let' s say all the 1139 01:49:17.199 --> 01:49:23.720 iconography and the whole new worldview and so we' re not going to be 1140 01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:29.960 able to identify it Julio, apart from that artificial intelligence approaches us to a 1141 01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:34.640 situation where the border between the real and the virtual is going to blur more 1142 01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:39.199 and more and we' re going to start living an existence sometimes marked more 1143 01:49:39.199 --> 01:49:41.079 by virtuality than by reality itself. Not then, this, this is, 1144 01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:46.159 this is already happening almost to this day, it is true virtuality is we 1145 01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:50.960 have now and in fact already the experts and doing how we put a stop. 1146 01:49:51.039 --> 01:49:55.880 This is like when they say no to the children, let them be 1147 01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:58.920 free and say goodbye. And good and good, yes, but there wasn 1148 01:49:58.920 --> 01:50:02.199 ' t. We were talking about limitless and now, the whole host says 1149 01:50:02.319 --> 01:50:06.279 carefully that we are going to the other side and that there is no way 1150 01:50:06.359 --> 01:50:14.439 to control them. Let us set limits and establish limits that are also intelligent 1151 01:50:14.920 --> 01:50:18.479 and pedagogical, because this leaves us and we raise a totally out of control 1152 01:50:18.479 --> 01:50:24.079 generation. It is already there entirely and in generation part, part, precisely 1153 01:50:24.199 --> 01:50:29.520 in part. Yes, it is true, a generation that, precisely because 1154 01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:33.239 it has not lived or been educated in an absence of standards of limits, 1155 01:50:33.359 --> 01:50:40.159 under that humanistic psychology of the Sheffer, of letting do, is a tremendously 1156 01:50:40.239 --> 01:50:45.680 emotional generation, tremendously immature, a generation that has remained in a perpetual adolescence 1157 01:50:45.720 --> 01:50:48.439 in many cases, do not notice that Enrique Rojas mentioned it. With you, 1158 01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:54.760 I believe on one occasion Enrique Rojas works the concepts of the man of 1159 01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:59.159 today and of the woman of today, and the man of today calls the 1160 01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:03.920 man Simon alludes to the initials of a single man, immature, materialistic, 1161 01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:09.840 obsessed with work and narcissistic. The man neither speaks of the woman Laura who 1162 01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:14.560 responds to the initials of a liberated woman, autonomous university, that is, 1163 01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:20.159 very formed, laura and that reduces love. Live a concept of utilitarian love, 1164 01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:24.359 of using and throwing away. That' s terrible, and that' 1165 01:51:24.399 --> 01:51:28.119 s what the absence of ethical standards and common values is all about. Of 1166 01:51:28.840 --> 01:51:32.479 course yes, look at this topic you approach that I have read is a 1167 01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:39.000 lecture of yours We sail adrift from an identity that, detached from all limitation, 1168 01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:43.680 reduces existence to a search for self. From here and time there is 1169 01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:49.039 no sense of family community, There is not only us an individuality without borders. 1170 01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:55.920 Thus happened the process towards the sovereignty of the individual and you speak of 1171 01:51:56.199 --> 01:52:02.880 anthropocentrism models, man as the center of everything of the transsexual universe, transsexuality, 1172 01:52:03.279 --> 01:52:08.119 trans age, trans species and transhumanism. That' s right, we 1173 01:52:08.159 --> 01:52:13.880 ' re going to be trans destroyed. In the end, that is the 1174 01:52:13.960 --> 01:52:15.000 end of the chapter and at the end of the story. Not that you 1175 01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:23.199 just said. Julio is part of the book and it is evidently that when 1176 01:52:23.439 --> 01:52:26.520 we looked at Leonardo da Vinci, when Leonardo Daviche, who was not only 1177 01:52:26.600 --> 01:52:29.399 a painter, was a philosopher, a doctor of many things, was a 1178 01:52:29.399 --> 01:52:32.119 very wise man. When he paints forgiveness he draws the vitruvius, that is, 1179 01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:36.960 the man surrounded by the circle and the square, the one- dimensional 1180 01:52:36.960 --> 01:52:42.319 man. That' s not yes, yes, that means the square and 1181 01:52:42.399 --> 01:52:45.039 the circle means the earth and the universe. Therefore, anthropocentrism was born there, 1182 01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:50.239 which had been dissociating itself from theocentrism proper to the Middle Ages, where 1183 01:52:50.279 --> 01:52:55.279 the idea of a severe vigilante god that was a very negative and restrictive idea 1184 01:52:55.680 --> 01:53:00.680 gave way in the rebirth to anthropocentrism. From there, man really begins to 1185 01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:03.920 be the center of the universe and the sovereign of its existence and is derived 1186 01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:09.319 into everything you have mentioned, the one I work in the book. It 1187 01:53:09.399 --> 01:53:13.159 leads towards the confusion of identity, towards the change from transsexuality, to transity, 1188 01:53:13.319 --> 01:53:15.399 transpreciation and transhumanism, which, by the way, has a lot to 1189 01:53:15.399 --> 01:53:20.960 do with artificial intelligence and with cybor and biometric men. And, well, 1190 01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:26.840 all this madness to which the fact that, when the creature separates from the 1191 01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:32.359 creator and from the rules of creation, it ends in total chaos. Yes, 1192 01:53:33.640 --> 01:53:38.199 I remember about this when I read many years ago, when I read 1193 01:53:38.319 --> 01:53:46.800 about all kinds of literature march stars and Engle Herbert Marcus is about the one 1194 01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:55.199 - dimensional man, who were pioneers of social models that we are talking about 1195 01:53:55.239 --> 01:54:01.319 in that sense, as a kind of liberation, of emancipation of the proletariat, 1196 01:54:01.399 --> 01:54:04.439 of the working classes of man himself, of the tyranny of man, 1197 01:54:05.119 --> 01:54:09.800 of man for man. But it turns out that we are now enslaved. 1198 01:54:10.399 --> 01:54:15.800 It' s a lot of addictions and traps that we make ourselves. It 1199 01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:18.279 ' s tremendous. It' s tremendous. Yes, there is a Catalan 1200 01:54:18.279 --> 01:54:24.520 sociologist called French Torralba. No, yes, French bull as it is. 1201 01:54:24.760 --> 01:54:26.840 You' re here in our living room, you had here. Yeah. 1202 01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:29.560 Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. No. He' s a man 1203 01:54:29.720 --> 01:54:33.880 I' ve read some very interesting things about. He talks about us and 1204 01:54:34.279 --> 01:54:40.479 uses a concept I like not. He speaks of foamy polytheism, of foaming 1205 01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:44.359 alluding to the gaseous culture in which we enter, and of clear polytheism, 1206 01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:48.439 alluding to the fact that we already live, not in the age of unbelief, 1207 01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:53.279 which was the one that characterized each past, but that we are already 1208 01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:56.520 in the age of bread belief, where it is no longer that we believe 1209 01:54:56.560 --> 01:55:00.319 in nothing, but that we believe in anything but Christianity, that that that 1210 01:55:00.319 --> 01:55:05.159 is the Jewish Christian culture, that is what we have to abolish and so 1211 01:55:05.239 --> 01:55:11.079 on. And that tells us about the age of emptiness. He speaks to 1212 01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:16.880 us as advocated many years ago also by the great theologian Francis Scheffer in books 1213 01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:21.039 like death in the city and others who advocated everything that is already happening. 1214 01:55:21.239 --> 01:55:27.000 And they spoke of that existential era, of that emptiness, of what Marx 1215 01:55:27.119 --> 01:55:31.439 later called and preconceived much, nihilism, the culture of nothing, the culture 1216 01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:38.680 of emptiness. That’ s tremendous Notice that if we look at Solomon, 1217 01:55:38.800 --> 01:55:43.119 the book of Ecclesiastes, it’ s very interesting because Solomon does something very 1218 01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:46.000 curious at the end of the day. Solomon, giving free rein to all 1219 01:55:46.039 --> 01:55:49.439 the pleasures of the body, is given in taste and in proving all that 1220 01:55:49.520 --> 01:55:54.720 this world could offer him. And after proving everything this world could offer him 1221 01:55:54.800 --> 01:55:58.600 at the level of human pleasures, on any level he ends up repeating a 1222 01:55:59.199 --> 01:56:01.199 phrase that is the one that is very fashionable today. Everything is bau, 1223 01:56:01.560 --> 01:56:09.159 everything is fragile, everything is volatile. The volatility that characterizes the current environments 1224 01:56:09.640 --> 01:56:12.920 is the same comes from the same root as when Solomon himself talks about everything 1225 01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:15.880 being bao, everything is fragile, not everything is volatile. And that' 1226 01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:17.760 s what we' re going to do. It is not interesting how the 1227 01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:24.319 Bible precedes sociology that they now believe they are inventing gunpowder by talking about the 1228 01:56:24.399 --> 01:56:27.640 Book environment, the Van environment, and the volatile world. Not that is 1229 01:56:27.680 --> 01:56:31.159 already advocated in the Bible and Solomon was already talking about all that in those 1230 01:56:31.159 --> 01:56:34.399 times. Well for them we can read the ecclesiastes, which is a book 1231 01:56:35.239 --> 01:56:45.479 of existentialist philosophy from a good wants kear to develop it with a lot of 1232 01:56:45.520 --> 01:56:50.000 skill in some of those books soren Ker, who was a well- known 1233 01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:58.880 Christian existentialist. But there he anticipates this Solomon. But look, you mentioned 1234 01:56:59.159 --> 01:57:03.760 Francisco Ralba and I want to mention a book about issues that we are talking 1235 01:57:04.399 --> 01:57:08.399 about now and it comes to the point. He wrote that I had him 1236 01:57:08.479 --> 01:57:14.319 here a few years ago, at the beginning of the two thousand and a 1237 01:57:14.319 --> 01:57:21.800 little, a book called Spiritual Intelligence. Spiritual intelligence, a great book for 1238 01:57:21.960 --> 01:57:29.960 believers, a very appropriate book for believers of the faith and of the Christian 1239 01:57:30.479 --> 01:57:38.000 faith in particular. He is the Catholic believer, a man of faith and 1240 01:57:38.039 --> 01:57:45.279 very interesting in regard to how, in the midst of all this wonder of 1241 01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:50.319 tendencies, we can strengthen ourselves in a living faith, which is faith in 1242 01:57:50.319 --> 01:57:55.960 Christ. Yeah, then, but you talk about it, and we' 1243 01:57:56.439 --> 01:58:00.000 re getting closer to the end of the last border, getting that use back. 1244 01:58:01.119 --> 01:58:05.720 We are existential fatigue and the meaning of life. Well, you mentioned 1245 01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:13.199 this to us too. But as for the last border. I mean, 1246 01:58:13.279 --> 01:58:15.199 there are people who say they' re already lost. Well, let' 1247 01:58:15.359 --> 01:58:19.920 s throw as much as we can, getting to the finish line anyway, 1248 01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:25.680 pulling forward. But I believe that life is not life and that we must 1249 01:58:25.720 --> 01:58:30.199 look for other ways, ways that do not put us in value, that 1250 01:58:30.479 --> 01:58:34.479 encourage us in a good way. Right. Yeah, yeah, no, 1251 01:58:34.960 --> 01:58:39.319 definitely. When in the book, for example, Julio, when I mention 1252 01:58:39.359 --> 01:58:45.159 the last border, I am evidently referring to the fact that there are not 1253 01:58:45.359 --> 01:58:53.119 many more borders where supposedly very much progressed in the development of humanity, because 1254 01:58:53.239 --> 01:58:58.920 we are self- destructing at such a rate that when I speak of the 1255 01:58:58.960 --> 01:59:02.000 last border, I speak of that there is not much more way to go. 1256 01:59:02.039 --> 01:59:06.840 It is that we are at the end, that is, and this 1257 01:59:06.880 --> 01:59:12.119 has a reading that could even be positive, not because, of course, 1258 01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:16.840 humanity, science has to come to a moment where it realizes that it is 1259 01:59:16.880 --> 01:59:23.159 discarding everything that precisely constitutes the solidity of the human soul and all that precisely 1260 01:59:23.239 --> 01:59:28.680 constitutes the cohesion of a civilized society. Then, of course, it touches 1261 01:59:28.760 --> 01:59:33.239 or falls into the void or, in some way, to look back a 1262 01:59:34.119 --> 01:59:39.560 little bit and begin to contemplate everything that we have thrown into the garbage in 1263 01:59:39.600 --> 01:59:43.159 the supposed advance of human society and that, in some way, conforms the 1264 01:59:43.279 --> 01:59:49.600 essentials of our life, traditions, the everyday, the return to questions that 1265 01:59:49.760 --> 01:59:55.159 have to do with small pleasures, everything that has to do with the search 1266 01:59:55.279 --> 01:59:59.439 for a common good, with an ethics with values to embrace and to live 1267 01:59:59.479 --> 02:00:03.159 and by those that lead us with everything that has constituted the cultural universe that 1268 02:00:03.199 --> 02:00:09.880 has preceded us and that, unfortunately, in this search, of that supposed 1269 02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:14.800 autonomy and of that sovereignty of the individual, we have thrown everything into the 1270 02:00:14.880 --> 02:00:19.520 garbage and we are staying yes, very independent, we are very able to 1271 02:00:19.600 --> 02:00:25.319 define ourselves as we want, but on a deserted island and man cannot live 1272 02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:29.439 in solitude. She says it the word clear, it' s not good 1273 02:00:29.520 --> 02:00:32.000 that the man is alone. Therefore, this supposed independence is leading us to 1274 02:00:32.079 --> 02:00:36.079 a loneliness of the soul and an existential loneliness before which one cannot live. 1275 02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:44.439 This is the reality and as I believe, because the subject is very suggestive, 1276 02:00:45.039 --> 02:00:53.079 very much not to say suggestive and already in the conclusion we do have 1277 02:00:53.119 --> 02:00:57.439 to recapitulate and it will come in which we are. It' s not 1278 02:00:58.880 --> 02:01:02.159 that it' s anything forced, it' s that it' s our 1279 02:01:02.199 --> 02:01:06.079 vital experience and we checked it in your life and mine and thousands and I 1280 02:01:06.159 --> 02:01:13.439 ' d say, without exaggerating millions of people. Now Jesus Christ, Jesus 1281 02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:15.800 Christ, Now more than ever, why Jesus Christ? If it' s 1282 02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:21.439 a magic legend, they say it' s a religious fetish, if it 1283 02:01:21.600 --> 02:01:28.680 ' s sentimentalism, if it' s a non- mythical issue. No, 1284 02:01:30.159 --> 02:01:32.760 well, that' s what some people think. We make sure that 1285 02:01:32.880 --> 02:01:39.199 that thought Julio can also begin to change with a very simple question. When 1286 02:01:39.239 --> 02:01:44.399 we talk about the last frontier, it means that man is also realizing that 1287 02:01:44.520 --> 02:01:49.000 we are dispensing with legitimate things that are part of a human being' s 1288 02:01:49.119 --> 02:01:54.680 life. And then, notice that still the matter of Big Bang theory is 1289 02:01:54.840 --> 02:01:59.399 still a theory. No, and we have to understand that in science, 1290 02:02:00.520 --> 02:02:06.039 a theory is something transitory until the veracity of that theory is demonstrated and it 1291 02:02:06.159 --> 02:02:11.960 goes from being theory to science. But notice that the Big Bang theory and 1292 02:02:12.039 --> 02:02:17.600 the beginning of the universe is still a theory. There are no empirical arguments 1293 02:02:17.640 --> 02:02:21.319 that support laria. It remains only a theory, a theory maintained in time 1294 02:02:21.399 --> 02:02:27.079 for science. It' s a failure and it' s still a belief, 1295 02:02:27.359 --> 02:02:31.359 because until the empirical evidence of that theory is proven, it' s 1296 02:02:31.359 --> 02:02:34.680 just a belief. Well, we Christians say clearly that we have a belief 1297 02:02:34.760 --> 02:02:40.159 and, as Pythagoras said, that he was a mathematician and very wise. 1298 02:02:40.600 --> 02:02:45.800 The Pythagoras guy said nothing is born out of nothing, and we believe the 1299 02:02:45.800 --> 02:02:49.359 same thing. Nothing is born out of nothing. This is the work of 1300 02:02:49.439 --> 02:02:54.680 an intelligent design, of a god creator and of an order that he established. 1301 02:02:55.239 --> 02:02:59.600 When we do not believe and when we break that established order, we 1302 02:02:59.720 --> 02:03:03.359 enter into a generalized case, which is what this society is going on. 1303 02:03:03.399 --> 02:03:10.960 Forced, for example, the theory of evolution, the theory of evolution apparently 1304 02:03:12.560 --> 02:03:23.159 settled and such, great, and I say great recognized evolutionists have retracted, 1305 02:03:23.680 --> 02:03:31.840 others are questioning it. So it means we have raised to the category of 1306 02:03:31.960 --> 02:03:39.720 the We have naturalized a thing that is not verifiable if atapuercas and fossil records 1307 02:03:39.800 --> 02:03:46.640 of our ape or prehistoric ancestors, and we are wanting to believe a milonga 1308 02:03:46.640 --> 02:03:49.000 to justify. I don' t know what. And it' s all 1309 02:03:49.039 --> 02:03:53.279 an anti- god culture. God is nowhere. God is a den of 1310 02:03:53.319 --> 02:04:02.159 organized religion then, but we have really socialized great collective lies to eradicate God 1311 02:04:02.239 --> 02:04:09.119 from the social imaginary, that good God who created us. And then, 1312 02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:15.279 but that' s interesting. Not Jesus Christ is the way, the supreme 1313 02:04:15.800 --> 02:04:19.119 truth and life, life, not only transitory life, but eternal life. 1314 02:04:20.399 --> 02:04:23.439 I don' t know if he recently took you to me. I got 1315 02:04:23.760 --> 02:04:30.239 it by whatsapp. Look, I don' t get the name Núñez Núñez 1316 02:04:30.239 --> 02:04:32.359 now. This is a well- known pastor. I don' t like 1317 02:04:32.359 --> 02:04:34.159 it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It' s a lecture to Núñez. 1318 02:04:34.199 --> 02:04:39.279 Yes, yes, of course, for the other day I would draw 1319 02:04:39.319 --> 02:04:43.199 on the verse you just read. Not clear and he said Jesus Christ is 1320 02:04:43.279 --> 02:04:45.560 the way, the truth and the life. No. That is, those 1321 02:04:45.640 --> 02:04:50.520 who are not in the way are lost, those who are not in the 1322 02:04:50.600 --> 02:04:56.000 truth are in the lie and those who are not in the life are in 1323 02:04:56.039 --> 02:05:00.000 the death. No. And it' s interesting, because that' s 1324 02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:02.920 the truth. The person of Jesus is personified with capital letters. For us 1325 02:05:03.039 --> 02:05:08.560 it is not a concept, it is a person and for us, in 1326 02:05:08.680 --> 02:05:13.720 God and in the Jesus Christ in which he incarnates brings together all past, 1327 02:05:14.119 --> 02:05:16.479 present and future. Without a doubt that Jesus says, I am the door 1328 02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:24.399 so it is the one who will enter through me is something and is the 1329 02:05:24.479 --> 02:05:27.439 open door of hope. Now, to this day, I recommend to our 1330 02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:30.960 listeners that they be able to read the New Testament, the second part of 1331 02:05:30.960 --> 02:05:36.680 the Bible. Perhaps you can assume a bit difficult from the Bible suddenly a 1332 02:05:40.439 --> 02:05:46.119 voluminous book. But yes, the New Testament is a revelation. Do not 1333 02:05:46.439 --> 02:05:51.520 confuse the New Testament with organized religion. The New Testament is the manuscripts of 1334 02:05:53.000 --> 02:05:59.359 especially the life of Jesus, by four eye biographers, eyewitnesses who were with 1335 02:05:59.399 --> 02:06:03.920 him. Then in more stories, the facts of the apostles, the beginning 1336 02:06:04.000 --> 02:06:09.880 of the Christian community and also the apostolic letters, which are also very important. 1337 02:06:11.119 --> 02:06:14.880 Therefore, I recommend that truth, the New Testament as more certainly, 1338 02:06:15.119 --> 02:06:21.119 certainly indeed, July. For me, in these volatile times the solidity of 1339 02:06:21.560 --> 02:06:28.399 the word. Every time it is revealed to me with a firmer force. 1340 02:06:29.119 --> 02:06:32.800 And well, if you read even a little scientific about the book of Revelation, 1341 02:06:33.720 --> 02:06:38.960 you realize that, in fact, everything that Revelation narrates And well, 1342 02:06:40.000 --> 02:06:42.760 obviously, if we link it to the book of Daniel, which is the 1343 02:06:42.920 --> 02:06:45.319 tandem to be understood, we realize that in the Bible are contained many of 1344 02:06:45.399 --> 02:06:50.520 the prophecies that are being fulfilled and much of what was being advocated is already 1345 02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:59.760 happening. Therefore, I believe that the Bible acquires a very, very preponderant 1346 02:06:59.760 --> 02:07:03.640 authority in all these times because of the truthfulness of everything that was implied there 1347 02:07:03.680 --> 02:07:08.319 and we see that it is already being fulfilled. This is the reality. 1348 02:07:08.600 --> 02:07:15.600 That' s right, dear friend Juan Varela figuete and here we have ours 1349 02:07:15.800 --> 02:07:19.800 there in the skirt of our facebook like. Juan Varela is the director of 1350 02:07:19.920 --> 02:07:27.560 the Family Training Institute. To be informed, you can enter the Ministry Juan 1351 02:07:28.640 --> 02:07:31.399 Varela Estres Ministry Juan Varela Es. There will be books, there will be 1352 02:07:31.720 --> 02:07:40.159 documents, there will be contributions, resources and also for if you want to 1353 02:07:40.199 --> 02:07:45.760 request together with Maria del Mar, retreat meetings for marriages, for men, 1354 02:07:45.199 --> 02:07:54.439 for women, qualified counseling, well an endless number of proposals and tools offered 1355 02:07:54.560 --> 02:07:59.960 to us by our friends, in this case by the Fan Training Institute. 1356 02:08:01.399 --> 02:08:03.079 John has been again. For me it is a pleasure you know, and 1357 02:08:03.199 --> 02:08:09.600 a joy to throw you equally dear July. For me too he is always 1358 02:08:09.680 --> 02:08:15.359 a pleasure to be able to share, chat and take this coffee on the 1359 02:08:15.439 --> 02:08:18.000 train of life. I don' t expect we still have many seasons ahead 1360 02:08:18.000 --> 02:08:24.039 this year. The forecast is October to be in Good. I' m 1361 02:08:24.079 --> 02:08:26.760 gonna be back in May for there with Huelva' s friends. We' 1362 02:08:26.840 --> 02:08:31.119 ll be at a retreat with the local churches over there. But then, 1363 02:08:31.680 --> 02:08:37.319 in October I will be god by means and we agree in Seville and we 1364 02:08:37.600 --> 02:08:39.000 have to go to the Giana neighborhood, take a top of those of the 1365 02:08:39.000 --> 02:08:43.239 good ones. I increasingly appreciate that the daily nature of those moments together. 1366 02:08:43.880 --> 02:08:48.840 Uh, yes, sir, sharing the food, the food, the environment, 1367 02:08:50.039 --> 02:08:54.000 that' s all part of something we don' t have to lose. 1368 02:08:54.079 --> 02:08:58.760 Never. We have to lose it because, in addition, there is 1369 02:08:58.880 --> 02:09:05.439 a very important question, and it is that we are farmers, that we 1370 02:09:05.520 --> 02:09:09.000 are working tirelessly and we are doing it for the vocation of a thousand loves, 1371 02:09:11.159 --> 02:09:11.239 for the advancement of the Kingdom of God and you are one of them. 1372 02:09:11.319 --> 02:09:16.119 Me or too and well we can take the liberty of being able to 1373 02:09:16.279 --> 02:09:20.439 take a lid that is not that very from our country. No, of 1374 02:09:20.560 --> 02:09:26.239 course. Also, note that the last preaching I shared was titled by Julio 1375 02:09:26.520 --> 02:09:30.920 Aires as a feast in the Father’ s house. I didn' t 1376 02:09:30.960 --> 02:09:33.039 already talk about that that' s what Aires is waiting for us to party 1377 02:09:33.039 --> 02:09:35.319 in the Father' s house. Therefore, life is a daily lesson. 1378 02:09:35.359 --> 02:09:39.640 Even if there is death, we choose life. Even if there is mourning, 1379 02:09:41.239 --> 02:09:43.680 we choose the party. And that' s got to cheer us up, 1380 02:09:43.680 --> 02:09:46.239 too. That' s right. So, John sent you a very 1381 02:09:46.279 --> 02:10:11.359 affectionate hug. Friend equal equal fair always chao chadiciones or the train of life. 1382 02:10:11.880 --> 02:10:33.680 Life is his fire that embraces me. It' s a consuming fire. 1383 02:10:33.560 --> 02:10:43.279 It runs through my body a little overnate. When I hear your words, 1384 02:10:45.319 --> 02:10:54.199 I have the least flames in my heart that subside I know how to 1385 02:10:56.279 --> 02:11:16.039 meet your love and your truth you' re old do what you want in 1386 02:11:16.039 --> 02:11:18.239 me I need you so much sando spirit? Is your voice guiding me to 1387 02:11:18.640 --> 02:11:31.600 renew every way I need you so much Holy Spirit? It is your voice 1388 02:11:31.760 --> 02:11:45.279 that guides me to fill me every day you sealed me with your essence and 1389 02:11:45.520 --> 02:11:52.800 now I am your loser. I want more of your presence of tuntion and 1390 02:11:52.800 --> 02:12:11.119 holiness. Are you welcome here or do you want in my faith I need 1391 02:12:13.359 --> 02:12:22.439 so much my Holy Spirit? Was it the one who guides me to renew 1392 02:12:22.640 --> 02:12:31.800 every one of you I need so much holy spirit? It was the one 1393 02:12:33.239 --> 02:12:46.720 who led me to fill every tente that I saw fill me with faith, 1394 02:12:48.119 --> 02:12:52.000 transform me into my coposarrebosando what I take from you. I am giving fen 1395 02:12:52.319 --> 02:13:07.199 and fill them see transforramala my cosmobe sando what all day I am giving so 1396 02:13:09.680 --> 02:13:18.079 much tension holy spirit. It was the one that led me to renew every 1397 02:13:18.079 --> 02:13:28.880 day. I need you so much holy spirits. It is his voice that 1398 02:13:28.319 --> 02:13:43.920 guides me to fill me every day go and fill me you see transform me 1399 02:13:43.159 --> 02:13:56.840 and I say passing through what I took I gave I am giving faith and 1400 02:13:56.960 --> 02:13:58.880 fill me you see transform me and how to pass enjoying what I take from 1401 02:13:58.880 --> 02:14:16.159 you. 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Do not miss the opportunity to participate in this great call. 1411 02:15:16.920 --> 02:15:26.960 Until he comes. Until he comes or she pruned it home before your gria, 1412 02:15:30.279 --> 02:15:48.079 pramado comes and every eye to see the train of life, an exciting 1413 02:15:48.199 --> 02:15:54.720 journey along the routes of the heart, an unforgettable journey at the rhythm of 1414 02:16:11.119 --> 02:16:16.760 train Ladies and gentlemen, we have arrived at the station, a multicolor station 1415 02:16:18.039 --> 02:16:22.479 is the colors of life, that well, so let' s talk about 1416 02:16:22.600 --> 02:16:28.560 a color that has to do with ourselves who I am. Really discovering our 1417 02:16:28.960 --> 02:16:33.799 true self on what basis my personality. Sometimes we have to ask ourselves, 1418 02:16:33.559 --> 02:16:41.479 we have to reflect on exactly who we are. Well, the big question 1419 02:16:41.920 --> 02:16:43.559 who I am, where I come from and where I' m going. 1420 02:16:45.360 --> 02:16:48.840 We' re not going to philosophize, but we' re really going to 1421 02:16:48.879 --> 02:16:52.600 make a point about who I am. Who are you really discovering our true 1422 02:16:52.719 --> 02:16:58.280 identity, discovering ourselves a little bit, a little bit or a lot to 1423 02:16:58.280 --> 02:17:03.680 know, or a little bit to reconcile, at best, with ourselves, 1424 02:17:03.319 --> 02:17:07.879 because sometimes there is a mess about this. Okay, well, let' 1425 02:17:07.920 --> 02:17:13.280 s see if it helps Judith cas or the psychotherapist. Today about this topic 1426 02:17:13.399 --> 02:17:22.639 we go there that we talk about who we really are discovering our true self. 1427 02:17:22.760 --> 02:17:26.840 That' s something we have to ask you sometime in life. No, 1428 02:17:28.479 --> 02:17:31.760 yes, we actually ask ourselves more times than we think and social media 1429 02:17:31.840 --> 02:17:35.079 will demonstrate it and today we will demonstrate that we ask ourselves many more times 1430 02:17:35.159 --> 02:17:39.120 than we believe and that we need an answer to it many more times than 1431 02:17:39.159 --> 02:17:43.920 we believe. So, maybe we didn' t sit like maybe Plato or 1432 02:17:43.000 --> 02:17:48.799 Aristotle would sit down and think about who I am where I come from and 1433 02:17:48.799 --> 02:17:52.719 where, maybe. We don' t do this with robes and eat in 1434 02:17:52.799 --> 02:17:54.879 the hand, but we do during the day. Sometimes when we go in 1435 02:17:54.959 --> 02:17:58.799 the stressed car, we' re tired, we don' t know why 1436 02:17:58.920 --> 02:18:01.639 our son doesn' t end up using teen with some kind of problem. 1437 02:18:01.760 --> 02:18:05.760 We' re here and who I am what I' m doing, where 1438 02:18:05.760 --> 02:18:07.280 my life goes. If we ask ourselves, not what perhaps not with that 1439 02:18:07.440 --> 02:18:13.360 philosophical transcendence of philosophers, no, but we ask ourselves very, very much. 1440 02:18:13.639 --> 02:18:18.000 So what defines or marks my personality, our personality, what exactly is 1441 02:18:18.079 --> 02:18:24.600 Judith, for if we begin to understand that personality or when we say the 1442 02:18:24.639 --> 02:18:28.840 word personality, it is the way we organize our thoughts, how we organize. 1443 02:18:30.399 --> 02:18:33.440 The perception that means the things that we get. All are stimuli, 1444 02:18:33.520 --> 02:18:37.040 colors, shapes, runaways, sounds, words, all of these are stimuli 1445 02:18:37.360 --> 02:18:41.239 to our brain. We' ve said it many times. Then all those 1446 02:18:41.360 --> 02:18:46.719 stimuli, we get them, we perceive them and how we think about them, 1447 02:18:46.360 --> 02:18:52.200 process them, organize them, emotions to these three blocks, thoughts, 1448 02:18:52.719 --> 02:18:58.520 protections and emotions, how we organize them and how we behave, depending on 1449 02:18:58.600 --> 02:19:01.479 the decisions that we are in our home. About what we have perceived is 1450 02:19:01.600 --> 02:19:07.840 personality and it ends up reflecting the individual way that we each have to adapt 1451 02:19:07.280 --> 02:19:11.239 to the present, to adapt our past, to our life and to adapt 1452 02:19:11.239 --> 02:19:16.040 what we believe to be to our future. In the end, personality manifests 1453 02:19:16.120 --> 02:19:20.040 itself in the form of behavior, that is, how we behave, is 1454 02:19:20.200 --> 02:19:26.479 often part of how we perceive, how we think, how we get excited, 1455 02:19:26.479 --> 02:19:30.200 how we feel. That peculiar form of organizing of each person is what 1456 02:19:30.200 --> 02:19:35.639 we call personality and it is formed to, this peculiar way of organizing our 1457 02:19:35.639 --> 02:19:39.760 mind and managing everything that we think and happens has as prescribed or preestablished, 1458 02:19:41.280 --> 02:19:45.399 by using a word that we use a lot in technology, already pre- 1459 02:19:45.600 --> 02:19:48.559 established in applications, in our mobiles, because in our personality, in our 1460 02:19:48.559 --> 02:19:54.319 body, in our mind, a genetic inheritance is prescribed or pre- established 1461 02:19:54.440 --> 02:19:58.600 that has to do with how we manage all this that we have said before, 1462 02:20:00.239 --> 02:20:03.840 that is, this genetic heria to what we formerly call temperament. The 1463 02:20:03.959 --> 02:20:09.760 temperament comes preset genetically and is the way we organize our thoughts, our perceptions 1464 02:20:09.200 --> 02:20:16.920 and our emotions. This is what marks, defines or pre- establishes our 1465 02:20:16.920 --> 02:20:20.600 personality, our life. So, actually, we' ve got that preset. 1466 02:20:20.959 --> 02:20:26.079 That is, we could conclude that we are already born with our written 1467 02:20:26.200 --> 02:20:33.440 personality. Well, yes, yes. Actually, our genetic code is read 1468 02:20:33.600 --> 02:20:37.799 by combining different manifestations. The gnotypes and genotypes are a little rare, but 1469 02:20:37.879 --> 02:20:41.000 we need to get into it. But that' s what makes us have, 1470 02:20:41.120 --> 02:20:43.719 for example, maybe. We don' t know easily how to understand 1471 02:20:43.719 --> 02:20:46.159 blue eyes or green eyes or have curly hair or hair retiling. This is 1472 02:20:46.200 --> 02:20:48.719 what genetics does and, likewise, what it does is pre- set if 1473 02:20:48.879 --> 02:20:56.879 we will have to enjoy with many friends or if we will have to enjoy 1474 02:20:56.079 --> 02:21:01.760 better with few friends, for example, which is a slightly simplistic example and 1475 02:21:01.799 --> 02:21:03.440 personality. We base if I like to have many friends or few friends, 1476 02:21:03.559 --> 02:21:09.040 but there is a personality trait that pushes us to enjoy when we have a 1477 02:21:09.440 --> 02:21:13.319 lot, a lot of people around us. You rather enjoy it when we 1478 02:21:13.319 --> 02:21:18.079 have a petit committee few very intimate people. Not then also as we read 1479 02:21:18.159 --> 02:21:20.600 our genetic code, because just as we jump with curly hair maybe we will 1480 02:21:20.639 --> 02:21:24.840 go out with that we like to have relationships in more intimate, deeper, 1481 02:21:26.040 --> 02:21:31.440 but few for us to understand the only thing that is a combination of personality 1482 02:21:31.639 --> 02:21:37.200 is our genetics combines our personality. If we think or, for example, 1483 02:21:37.399 --> 02:21:41.079 if we think of a young child, when he makes a small child he 1484 02:21:41.360 --> 02:21:45.360 has already firmly established the color of the eyes, we tend to say look 1485 02:21:45.479 --> 02:21:48.879 is that they are the same My son has come out with eyes the same 1486 02:21:48.879 --> 02:21:54.639 as his grandfather' s, but instead, technology has shown us that our 1487 02:21:54.680 --> 02:21:58.600 eyes are not the same. Or that' s why we call it the 1488 02:21:58.680 --> 02:22:03.520 eyeprint and it' s a method of the most insecurity to avoid, because 1489 02:22:03.600 --> 02:22:05.799 that' s fraud or the footprint to actulate. We all know that another 1490 02:22:07.399 --> 02:22:09.680 of the things that technology uses is our rent run or our eyeprint. Because, 1491 02:22:11.239 --> 02:22:13.760 because it can and that our eyes resemble those of our grandparents or the 1492 02:22:13.799 --> 02:22:18.879 best of our mom or dad' s are completely and exactly different and different 1493 02:22:18.000 --> 02:22:24.559 and exclusive. This thing that happens with our eyes, for example, is 1494 02:22:24.760 --> 02:22:28.559 exactly the same with our personality. We can look like our mother, look 1495 02:22:28.600 --> 02:22:31.360 like the two of us Grandpa' s out. He can' t tell 1496 02:22:31.399 --> 02:22:33.680 you anything, because he' s out of Grandpa' s temper. Well, 1497 02:22:33.760 --> 02:22:39.920 it may look like the personality. Precisely because of this unique genetic combination, 1498 02:22:39.440 --> 02:22:43.159 it makes us unique and different. So the personality of the way each 1499 02:22:43.200 --> 02:22:48.440 of us who are listening to or talking about our way of processing, our 1500 02:22:48.440 --> 02:22:52.000 way of thinking, our way of managing emotions is unique and untransferable, even 1501 02:22:52.040 --> 02:22:56.799 if it looks a little like someone in my family. That' s the 1502 02:22:56.840 --> 02:23:01.760 personality and if we actually do it something right. That counter- studies have 1503 02:23:01.760 --> 02:23:05.120 begun to do thanks to technology or the advancement of technology with embryos in the 1504 02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:11.079 womb Mother we realize that even brothers who are genetically with the same genetic burden 1505 02:23:11.280 --> 02:23:15.360 that is not the same, but with the same genetic burden, behave different 1506 02:23:15.360 --> 02:23:20.479 in the belly of the mother. One tends to move more, another store 1507 02:23:20.559 --> 02:23:24.239 doesn' t move. One tends to hit the other tends to contain that 1508 02:23:24.360 --> 02:23:28.319 blow. One tends to be more nervous or another to less. Some to 1509 02:23:28.360 --> 02:23:31.159 suck others to move hands a lot. This indicates to us one of the 1510 02:23:31.239 --> 02:23:37.680 indicators that personality is already intrinsically written in our genetics and therefore comes as innate 1511 02:23:37.799 --> 02:23:43.600 in us. Sure, sure, but I' m sure a lot of 1512 02:23:43.680 --> 02:23:48.000 friends who are listening to us will be thinking, but I' m very 1513 02:23:48.000 --> 02:23:52.479 different. When I was little, why if I was already theoretically born with 1514 02:23:52.600 --> 02:23:58.079 my marked personality, they will also be thinking, because actually that asking is 1515 02:23:58.120 --> 02:24:01.920 very good, because it has a lot of race in it. We have 1516 02:24:01.920 --> 02:24:05.040 said that personality is pre- established in our genetics. She doesn' t 1517 02:24:05.120 --> 02:24:09.760 do it to the truth before, but she' s very influential or very 1518 02:24:09.760 --> 02:24:13.360 susceptible to our environment. It' s actually what we routinely call character. 1519 02:24:13.639 --> 02:24:18.000 That' s why the expression is that you' ve been sour with character? 1520 02:24:18.040 --> 02:24:20.000 Isn' t it an expression that around here where Joe says a lot, 1521 02:24:20.120 --> 02:24:22.840 has character been laughed at? That means, therefore, that character is 1522 02:24:22.920 --> 02:24:28.520 generated during the life of the person, during his life, during his experience 1523 02:24:28.559 --> 02:24:33.600 and in the culture in which he or she is integrated. These three factors, 1524 02:24:33.959 --> 02:24:37.920 the life of the subform person himself, the experiences he lives in and 1525 02:24:37.000 --> 02:24:43.120 the culture in which he is able to modulate, develop or even mutilate part 1526 02:24:43.280 --> 02:24:48.000 of our personality. Which means, for example, we can find some basic 1527 02:24:48.079 --> 02:24:50.959 features and talk about them. Perhaps, if two times today about extroversion, 1528 02:24:50.479 --> 02:24:54.319 how extroverted a person is or how introverted a person is, we could be 1529 02:24:54.399 --> 02:25:01.479 introverted people and be born for that example, about Cadiz, where I have 1530 02:25:01.680 --> 02:25:05.879 very good friends there in Andalusia, and that introversion is detected already is that 1531 02:25:05.959 --> 02:25:11.920 this kid is very introverted. But we take this introverted person from Cadiz and 1532 02:25:11.120 --> 02:25:16.680 we take her to Sweden and surely in the environment and in the culture and 1533 02:25:16.079 --> 02:25:20.399 we say go go to quality no more eavesdropping that is, this person is 1534 02:25:20.440 --> 02:25:24.559 very extroverted because it is Spanish and it means this or the person when changing 1535 02:25:24.559 --> 02:25:28.280 borders, changing personality, stripe is impossible. Today what happens is that the 1536 02:25:28.360 --> 02:25:33.959 culture, the environment of the fine different that personality. What we mean, 1537 02:25:35.000 --> 02:25:39.159 because depending on where it is no longer born, that introverted trend will be 1538 02:25:39.319 --> 02:25:48.639 boosted or minimized, but it cannot be completely changed. What I mean by 1539 02:25:48.760 --> 02:25:52.600 that, then, that what we live in, in the culture in which 1540 02:25:52.760 --> 02:25:56.479 we live, the environment in which we live, if it modulates as we 1541 02:25:56.559 --> 02:26:01.280 have said, can help to develop our personality and our peculiarity, or it 1542 02:26:01.760 --> 02:26:09.079 can lead to us paralyzing block or serem, we lock up or repress certain 1543 02:26:09.239 --> 02:26:13.120 traits of our personality because we are not well seen or in the culture in 1544 02:26:13.239 --> 02:26:15.639 which we are or in the family environment in which we were. For example, 1545 02:26:15.959 --> 02:26:18.719 I know several friends, but in me this measure is good. I 1546 02:26:18.760 --> 02:26:22.120 was born here, but I feel more like I' m on the other 1547 02:26:22.159 --> 02:26:24.639 side and he' s gone to live on that other side and we say 1548 02:26:24.639 --> 02:26:26.639 here I do fit good. This shows us that cultures sometimes accept the peculiarities 1549 02:26:28.239 --> 02:26:31.440 of each of the personalities of individuals and sometimes there are cultures that do not, 1550 02:26:31.760 --> 02:26:35.600 which do not accept certain personality peculiarities. So, that' s the 1551 02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:39.680 balance that we have to bring, the temperament that comes with that genetic burden 1552 02:26:41.000 --> 02:26:45.920 and the character that is that modulation of personality through what we live in, 1553 02:26:46.120 --> 02:26:50.040 from the environment in which we live, for example, on social networks we 1554 02:26:50.120 --> 02:26:56.680 find a multitude of tests about whether our way of sleeping says how we are 1555 02:26:56.760 --> 02:27:01.120 or whether I look like the mythological mermaid character or the white candity Snows, 1556 02:27:01.159 --> 02:27:05.719 why, why does it seem that the human being needs to be told who 1557 02:27:05.840 --> 02:27:09.719 that what it is The problem is that we don' t know how to 1558 02:27:11.479 --> 02:27:16.200 wean who we really are, because in reality the problem is that it lends 1559 02:27:16.200 --> 02:27:18.920 us to detecting who we really are? What happens to this thing you said 1560 02:27:18.959 --> 02:27:22.559 about social media. I too have found a lot of these apps where you 1561 02:27:22.600 --> 02:27:26.159 have to answer who you ask and who you ask yourself. They know perfectly 1562 02:27:26.280 --> 02:27:28.159 well who you are. No, for example I have gone out, because 1563 02:27:28.159 --> 02:27:31.680 this is what you said, No, because I have gone white Snows and 1564 02:27:31.680 --> 02:27:35.239 this gives me the feeling of identity to be valid, because I am white 1565 02:27:35.280 --> 02:27:39.840 snow, because I have to act like this and it seems like something that 1566 02:27:39.840 --> 02:27:41.520 is very limited. No, for example, because this is how many Disney 1567 02:27:41.600 --> 02:27:45.000 prences there are, because I don' t keep track. No, but 1568 02:27:45.079 --> 02:27:48.440 there must be fifteen good inventions. Let' s put over thirty, though 1569 02:27:48.479 --> 02:27:50.280 it' s not possible, but let' s imagine there are thirty Disney 1570 02:27:50.280 --> 02:27:54.040 Provinces. No. What happens that humanity can only be defined in thirty peculiarities. 1571 02:27:56.120 --> 02:28:00.600 Not the human being has so many more convivialities, but there is something 1572 02:28:01.200 --> 02:28:05.799 that we need to know who we are, that we need to know if 1573 02:28:05.840 --> 02:28:07.280 I am this way or there is this way. Many times what I find 1574 02:28:07.319 --> 02:28:11.239 in the consultation are many people who in the end ask me is that I 1575 02:28:11.360 --> 02:28:13.159 don' t know why I act different in different environments. I don' 1576 02:28:13.159 --> 02:28:16.520 t know what' s wrong with me, I don' t know if 1577 02:28:16.520 --> 02:28:18.559 what I am is bad. What I am is good. And one of 1578 02:28:18.600 --> 02:28:20.760 the things that happens is that these apps, for example, your tests sometimes 1579 02:28:20.799 --> 02:28:24.399 so funny and sometimes, well, so pathetic. Not because sometimes we come 1580 02:28:24.440 --> 02:28:28.040 to conclusions a little subtinas. No, because that vision on the outside only 1581 02:28:28.120 --> 02:28:33.079 places the emphasis on what we seem to be on the outside in order to 1582 02:28:33.280 --> 02:28:37.520 define or discover or transform what we are on the inside. It is a 1583 02:28:37.520 --> 02:28:41.239 danger, because the elements that we can change on the outside are much more 1584 02:28:41.600 --> 02:28:46.399 limited than the hundreds of thousands of interior combinations that we can make. In 1585 02:28:46.479 --> 02:28:52.399 fact, we will have to multiply a combination by as many inhabitants as the 1586 02:28:52.479 --> 02:28:56.559 Earth has had throughout its existence. As we said no, if there are 1587 02:28:56.719 --> 02:28:58.879 only thirty Disney principals, we can' t put all of humanity in thirty 1588 02:28:58.879 --> 02:29:03.840 Disney people. You actually have us and how we are. It has as 1589 02:29:03.879 --> 02:29:07.840 many combinations as there have been existences of people on the planet, for out 1590 02:29:07.879 --> 02:29:09.760 of seven million we are now plus all the hundreds of millions we have been 1591 02:29:09.840 --> 02:29:13.559 throughout Earth' s existence, those are possible combinations. So I wanted there 1592 02:29:13.559 --> 02:29:18.399 to be so many princesses or Prince of Disney, how much humanity existed so 1593 02:29:18.479 --> 02:29:24.040 that someone could tell us who we really are or how we are? Then, 1594 02:29:24.120 --> 02:29:28.120 something interesting is that hence the great creator said that he writes his instruction 1595 02:29:30.680 --> 02:29:35.520 as his consciousness within us, so that we know how to differentiate between good 1596 02:29:35.559 --> 02:29:39.760 and evil, between what builds us and what destroys us as human beings and 1597 02:29:39.879 --> 02:29:43.879 as peculiar ones that we are. Only a creator, like God, has 1598 02:29:43.920 --> 02:29:48.680 the ability to write within us a consciousness that serves each one of us and 1599 02:29:48.719 --> 02:29:54.040 not what we do. For example, or what has done well of them 1600 02:29:54.120 --> 02:29:58.399 would write a little princess draw the known characteroficatime you look like this because it 1601 02:29:58.520 --> 02:30:03.239 answers five questions, like this girl or like this character we have drawn. 1602 02:30:03.760 --> 02:30:07.040 So that' s interesting to keep in mind. Because to the question that 1603 02:30:07.079 --> 02:30:11.680 if the problem is that we don' t know how to detect ourselves our 1604 02:30:11.959 --> 02:30:16.360 personality, it does cost us for two reasons, because it may be that 1605 02:30:16.440 --> 02:30:20.559 my parents have not given me information about my personality or if they have given 1606 02:30:20.559 --> 02:30:24.000 it to me almost always, they have given us the same trait they have 1607 02:30:24.000 --> 02:30:24.239 always told us. Yes, she' s very nice. If she is 1608 02:30:24.280 --> 02:30:28.000 very nice or if she speaks very well, or if she is very related, 1609 02:30:28.200 --> 02:30:30.559 if she is very related, and the first thing I do about our 1610 02:30:30.639 --> 02:30:33.440 situations is that it doesn' t relate much, we always say the same 1611 02:30:33.479 --> 02:30:37.520 trait. So, if my parents one or not have been able to give 1612 02:30:37.639 --> 02:30:39.719 me information about i personality, or have always given me information about the same 1613 02:30:39.840 --> 02:30:46.440 kind of trait, the same characteristic, or have just given me these characteristics 1614 02:30:46.559 --> 02:30:48.360 by comparing or highlighting me. The very negative feature is that this child is 1615 02:30:48.399 --> 02:30:52.200 very introverted, is that this child does not speak, is that everything, 1616 02:30:52.399 --> 02:30:54.360 is that this child has always been involved pipe, is that you have always 1617 02:30:54.360 --> 02:30:58.879 been introverted and we always see it as something to the derogatory. It is 1618 02:31:00.040 --> 02:31:05.440 inevitable that you enter the information that we have about our personality is something derogatory 1619 02:31:05.600 --> 02:31:07.719 or something that we create, that is bad in us and, therefore, 1620 02:31:07.920 --> 02:31:11.360 something that tells us what you are is not good. And the other reason 1621 02:31:11.559 --> 02:31:15.200 is that no one has taught us what personality is, what it is formed 1622 02:31:15.200 --> 02:31:20.360 from, what characteristics there are in personality, how we can develop it And 1623 02:31:20.360 --> 02:31:24.799 actually, that' s transcendent. Why, then, because we need to 1624 02:31:24.920 --> 02:31:30.399 know ourselves in order to understand what we do and why we think what we 1625 02:31:30.440 --> 02:31:33.280 think and why, when certain things happen to us, we act in a 1626 02:31:35.000 --> 02:31:39.319 certain way, because it is the only way to be able to accept who 1627 02:31:39.319 --> 02:31:41.159 I am, because I understand who I am, because I understand who I 1628 02:31:41.239 --> 02:31:46.079 am, why I see if I can change someone in who I am, 1629 02:31:46.479 --> 02:31:52.680 if I am able to do it with myself, I will be able to 1630 02:31:52.239 --> 02:31:54.120 know another person and be more prepared to love that person, as it is 1631 02:31:54.120 --> 02:31:56.600 the way she needs to be loved. Although crepando and understanding, therefore determined 1632 02:31:56.600 --> 02:32:03.719 the attitudes of technical reactions certain needs. So knowing my personality not only helps 1633 02:32:03.760 --> 02:32:07.520 me, for myself, to develop balance in myself, but not to be 1634 02:32:07.600 --> 02:32:13.520 able to understand myself because I do what I do and if I want to 1635 02:32:13.559 --> 02:32:16.440 change, to be able to know what I should change and that I do 1636 02:32:16.440 --> 02:32:20.879 not need to change, but also it affects the relationship I have with others 1637 02:32:20.000 --> 02:32:24.000 and how, unfortunately or by grace, in reality, by grace less badly 1638 02:32:24.319 --> 02:32:28.920 we are social beings who need to live together, one with another. If 1639 02:32:28.040 --> 02:32:33.479 we understand our personality, we will begin to understand that if we are peculiar 1640 02:32:33.159 --> 02:32:37.959 and unique, so are others. So I must learn to understand, understand 1641 02:32:39.159 --> 02:32:41.959 and know who the other is in his personality, not in those things that 1642 02:32:43.000 --> 02:32:46.520 have stuck to us, that are bad, eh in our personality in the 1643 02:32:46.559 --> 02:32:52.799 most genuine of ours you can be transcendent to understand our personality. That' 1644 02:32:52.879 --> 02:32:56.360 s why I think our creator moves on to an entire book, which is 1645 02:32:56.360 --> 02:33:01.120 the entire Bible explaining to us things about how, about ourselves and about our 1646 02:33:01.280 --> 02:33:03.719 personality, that I' m already going to give two examples. He spent 1647 02:33:03.840 --> 02:33:07.799 40 years. God himself, dedicated himself exclusively forty years in bringing out from 1648 02:33:09.319 --> 02:33:15.079 Moses his true personality and freeing him from a cultural corset that was elitist, 1649 02:33:15.680 --> 02:33:20.399 that was superficial, that was exalter of the most basic instincts, that was 1650 02:33:20.440 --> 02:33:26.559 Egypt. He also decided to have and devoted three intense years to show Peter 1651 02:33:26.639 --> 02:33:33.280 that the impulsive personality trait had to take control of him. And so I 1652 02:33:33.399 --> 02:33:39.440 would be quoting hundreds of cases where the creator himself uniquely and perfectly frees him 1653 02:33:39.680 --> 02:33:45.079 from those things that have been glued to us externally and that have mutilated or 1654 02:33:45.200 --> 02:33:52.079 distorted. That unique personality combination that he had already written on each of us, 1655 02:33:52.600 --> 02:33:58.719 then it has to be something personally important. In addition, it is 1656 02:33:58.840 --> 02:34:03.120 a sign that the person gives is the sign that there is an incredible creator 1657 02:34:03.319 --> 02:34:09.680 who combines in an incredible and infinite way a series of personality traits making us 1658 02:34:09.680 --> 02:34:13.399 peculiar to each of us. And from there and that in that peculiarity and 1659 02:34:13.559 --> 02:34:20.000 in that uniqueness that we also become transcendent beings and also one hundred percent valuable 1660 02:34:20.040 --> 02:34:24.360 beings. Yes, yes, because one of the things that makes a unique 1661 02:34:24.600 --> 02:34:26.040 and valuable figure, one of the things that makes a Picasso painting unique, 1662 02:34:26.520 --> 02:34:30.959 non- transferable and valuable, is that it is unique, that it is 1663 02:34:31.040 --> 02:34:33.120 only a cre he has done, consummate not with his signature and only once. 1664 02:34:35.680 --> 02:34:37.479 Therefore, yes, knowing our person is something interesting, because it is 1665 02:34:37.600 --> 02:34:43.440 one of the signs that there is a creator. That' s the one 1666 02:34:43.559 --> 02:34:46.959 we didn' t revolutionize. Yes, yes, this statement is tremendous. 1667 02:34:48.520 --> 02:34:52.520 Then, understanding what you have just said to us about the need for human 1668 02:34:52.600 --> 02:34:56.520 beings to know themselves, the question arises which signals we can from late our 1669 02:34:56.600 --> 02:35:05.319 personality. Actually. In the Greek physician Hippocrates, four hundred and sixty years 1670 02:35:05.399 --> 02:35:11.799 before Christ and then the Greek physician Galen, in Christ' s one hundred 1671 02:35:11.639 --> 02:35:18.040 and twenty- nine, defined four basic blocks of blood, melancholy, choleric, 1672 02:35:18.559 --> 02:35:20.399 and plematic. I am sure and convinced that we have heard it a 1673 02:35:20.479 --> 02:35:26.159 thousand times today, after having spent almost two zero years with the poor Galene 1674 02:35:26.280 --> 02:35:31.920 doctor. The problem with these four traits that were defined is that they focused 1675 02:35:31.959 --> 02:35:35.840 on the pejorative of personality, that is, on those things that seemed to 1676 02:35:35.879 --> 02:35:41.159 be uncomfortable when going to the group in which we live, that they did 1677 02:35:41.200 --> 02:35:46.280 not rather discard or see or detect on what the personality is based. Continuing 1678 02:35:46.479 --> 02:35:50.159 to describe personality as blood, melancholy, choleric, and phlegmatic is something that 1679 02:35:50.159 --> 02:35:52.920 is completely obsolete, at least for medical and psychological professionals today, because I 1680 02:35:52.959 --> 02:35:56.120 tell you you are going to just mark that personality as something pejorative blood person 1681 02:35:56.200 --> 02:36:03.879 is the one who has a completely unstable mood. The melancholy person is what 1682 02:36:03.879 --> 02:36:07.559 he is, a sad and dreamy person of angry people. He' s 1683 02:36:07.639 --> 02:36:13.200 someone who has difficulty controlling his impulse control. The plematic person is someone who 1684 02:36:13.319 --> 02:36:16.000 has difficulty making decisions and who is apathetic. All this looks like pijorative things. 1685 02:36:16.040 --> 02:36:20.040 In fact, there is contempt and society is also asking us to change. 1686 02:36:20.600 --> 02:36:24.760 So how can it be that personality is divided into four blocks and those 1687 02:36:24.799 --> 02:36:26.760 four odors have to be able to change them because they are negative of me. 1688 02:36:26.840 --> 02:36:30.399 If I have said or if I have explained to you, that personality 1689 02:36:30.440 --> 02:36:33.280 is something intrinsic innate within us, that God has written there as a form 1690 02:36:33.360 --> 02:36:37.040 of his signal, his rubric, his subject that he wanted a child, 1691 02:36:37.360 --> 02:36:41.840 like us, unique and exclusive throughout the world, because this has changed over 1692 02:36:43.000 --> 02:36:46.360 time and with time and the development of technology has helped us to be able 1693 02:36:46.360 --> 02:36:50.479 to do much wider field studies. And in this five average male factors have 1694 02:36:50.559 --> 02:36:54.440 been differentiated, and we have gone from four or five. I don' 1695 02:36:54.520 --> 02:36:54.959 t know if I' ve done it very well. Yes, actually, 1696 02:36:56.239 --> 02:37:01.840 yes, because they are not factors based on prior things or that are negative 1697 02:37:01.319 --> 02:37:05.360 or things that make the group uncomfortable in a personality, but they are five 1698 02:37:05.799 --> 02:37:09.920 factors that end up being described in sixteen traits. They are, because they 1699 02:37:11.000 --> 02:37:15.440 are neuroticism, without you making quick conclusions about what urotisism is, because people 1700 02:37:15.520 --> 02:37:18.239 sometimes use this word in a prior way pulls and it is not erutism. 1701 02:37:18.959 --> 02:37:24.639 Extraversion or introduction, openness or reason, the tendency to be closed, to 1702 02:37:24.719 --> 02:37:31.280 be open, to experience, kindness and responsibility. These are the five factors 1703 02:37:31.719 --> 02:37:37.639 and they all describe sixteen elements that all of them combine, so we have 1704 02:37:37.920 --> 02:37:41.559 thousands of combinations and that we have described based on what the human being can 1705 02:37:41.600 --> 02:37:46.200 see from within. If God could describe to us the multitude of factors that 1706 02:37:46.280 --> 02:37:50.639 he has in mind to make the personality, for they would not fit best 1707 02:37:50.760 --> 02:37:54.959 in books, but at least from psychology we have been able to describe, 1708 02:37:54.639 --> 02:38:00.840 for those sixteen traits that, when combined between them, give us a multitude 1709 02:38:01.159 --> 02:38:05.959 of peculias and different people. Knowing that these five traits exist at least that 1710 02:38:05.040 --> 02:38:09.719 we know or these sixteen help us to know more or less where I go, 1711 02:38:09.239 --> 02:38:13.959 For example, within the trait of what we call neutism, there is 1712 02:38:15.120 --> 02:38:20.079 how we tend to live or experience experiences And we tend, when we live 1713 02:38:20.120 --> 02:38:24.120 an experience, to go through tension or nervousness, to be a person that 1714 02:38:24.239 --> 02:38:28.040 tends to worry or that tends to pass fear, to be a person that 1715 02:38:28.120 --> 02:38:33.360 tends to live anger and frustration, with some patience or to live emotions of 1716 02:38:33.479 --> 02:38:39.120 sadness, hopelessness or usually given guilt with intensity. And people who are very 1717 02:38:39.200 --> 02:38:41.680 sensitive, those people who are guilty and therefore take a sense of responsibility over 1718 02:38:41.719 --> 02:38:45.159 everything that happens to them, and people who do not tend to make it 1719 02:38:45.200 --> 02:38:48.520 harder for them to understand their sense of responsibility and therefore have feelings of guilt. 1720 02:38:50.639 --> 02:38:54.399 Within neutism, we also have the feeling of shame or ridicule. There 1721 02:38:54.440 --> 02:39:00.440 are people who live a lot of shame or a lot of ridiculous feeling right 1722 02:39:00.840 --> 02:39:05.120 away in any situation and people who do not tend to live few feelings of 1723 02:39:05.159 --> 02:39:07.479 shame or few feelings of ridicule. And that has to do with a trait, 1724 02:39:07.959 --> 02:39:11.479 not just how much I may not have enjoyed it many times, but 1725 02:39:11.600 --> 02:39:15.040 in a trait there are people who are more shameful than others, and they 1726 02:39:15.120 --> 02:39:18.120 have not only to do with who has crushed me with it, but they 1727 02:39:18.239 --> 02:39:22.040 can be the same child with parents, who have never worked under humiliation and 1728 02:39:22.120 --> 02:39:24.399 who one tends to be more shameful than another. Also, as we are 1729 02:39:24.479 --> 02:39:31.600 impulsive and how we live our sense of controlling our impulses and our needs. 1730 02:39:31.159 --> 02:39:35.200 There are people who find it a little harder to control their impulses and their 1731 02:39:35.280 --> 02:39:39.719 needs and need to cover them quickly. And there are people who are not 1732 02:39:39.760 --> 02:39:45.360 able to endure longer the impulses that come to mind or desire, to do 1733 02:39:45.479 --> 02:39:50.760 certain things and the needs are able to endure them. This looks like good 1734 02:39:50.840 --> 02:39:54.200 things and bad things, well, depending on where I looked at it. 1735 02:39:54.559 --> 02:39:56.840 For example, if our partner relationship, our partner is not able to express 1736 02:39:56.879 --> 02:40:03.680 their needs to me, it will be very difficult for me to understand the 1737 02:40:03.760 --> 02:40:05.639 truth to perceive them and, therefore, to try to cover them. And 1738 02:40:05.719 --> 02:40:09.719 without a couple relationship, I don' t feel able to have the feeling 1739 02:40:09.760 --> 02:40:13.280 that I can meet certain needs of my partner, because my partner will slowly 1740 02:40:13.360 --> 02:40:18.000 die without telling me and that will break the reaction. Therefore, not saying 1741 02:40:18.239 --> 02:40:22.360 our needs and having a great number of impulses is not always the best. 1742 02:40:22.159 --> 02:40:26.239 And who reverses being a hyper- demanding person and all the time talking about 1743 02:40:26.360 --> 02:40:30.200 my needs and keeping in mind that the person I live with also has a 1744 02:40:30.200 --> 02:40:33.479 needs. It can also do harm, which means that the personality is neither 1745 02:40:33.520 --> 02:40:37.200 good nor bad, but that we must learn to develop it. And there, 1746 02:40:37.920 --> 02:40:41.520 within every human being, there is not only this package of personalities that 1747 02:40:41.559 --> 02:40:43.840 is the rubric of God, but with that package, God has been clothed 1748 02:40:43.920 --> 02:40:50.639 with a series of consciences, a consciousness that makes us feel inside that we 1749 02:40:50.760 --> 02:40:56.760 are doing well what we are doing wrong. When I see that I am 1750 02:40:56.760 --> 02:41:00.040 being completely self- centered, I realize that others begin to suffer around me 1751 02:41:00.120 --> 02:41:03.159 and start to feel bad. When I make others do, I start to 1752 02:41:03.239 --> 02:41:05.920 realize that there' s something that doesn' t work. That realization is 1753 02:41:05.000 --> 02:41:09.680 that inner consciousness that is within us. Because God is good, God not 1754 02:41:09.760 --> 02:41:13.879 only does not give us a personality, but a manual of instructions. It 1755 02:41:15.000 --> 02:41:18.639 gives us a very sophisticated, incredible and magnificent machine that makes us feel and 1756 02:41:18.719 --> 02:41:22.079 live in a special and unique way. But it gives us a manual next 1757 02:41:22.600 --> 02:41:28.479 door so that we can live accordingly, so that we can live in that 1758 02:41:28.520 --> 02:41:31.680 peculiarity, live in a balanced way and not doing harm to others or that 1759 02:41:31.920 --> 02:41:35.959 the others deny and give This, for example, these five factors that I 1760 02:41:35.959 --> 02:41:41.680 have said anxiety of hostility, emotional states, the social anxiety that we live 1761 02:41:41.680 --> 02:41:43.559 or impulsivity or vulnerability. There are six factors that are only in one. 1762 02:41:43.760 --> 02:41:48.200 Notitism, for up to that is what we have read as scientists, because 1763 02:41:48.760 --> 02:41:50.760 of this there is a whole list. The extroversion, which has to do 1764 02:41:50.840 --> 02:41:56.319 with whether to establish links or not, the Gregarism, which has to do 1765 02:41:56.399 --> 02:41:58.399 with whether I like to be in the company of many or few. Assertivity, 1766 02:42:00.719 --> 02:42:03.559 that is, if I have the ability to know, to express to 1767 02:42:03.639 --> 02:42:05.559 others what I need and, therefore, to convince them to understand me. 1768 02:42:07.120 --> 02:42:09.719 The activity, that is, if I like to be busy or rather a 1769 02:42:09.799 --> 02:42:13.280 person who needs to be unoccupied. In things, the pursuit of emotions. 1770 02:42:13.799 --> 02:42:16.200 If I am a person who needs to live a stimulus, I am a 1771 02:42:16.280 --> 02:42:18.600 person who needs to live the active life. As for emotions, to live 1772 02:42:18.680 --> 02:42:22.760 many things. There are people who don' t that when they see someone 1773 02:42:22.760 --> 02:42:26.280 with a lot of emotions, it' s like they get stunned and split 1774 02:42:26.280 --> 02:42:28.879 up for little by little. For example, I know I have the tendency 1775 02:42:30.000 --> 02:42:33.920 to generate this order and more, and grace says it' s worth too 1776 02:42:35.000 --> 02:42:37.280 much stimulation. I agree, because this shows us that there are peculiarities. 1777 02:42:37.760 --> 02:42:41.120 When I find myself during a person where I know that overstimulation will not help 1778 02:42:41.120 --> 02:42:46.920 you. I have to learn to modulate the search for emotions, I have 1779 02:42:46.000 --> 02:42:50.200 to learn to modulate it, but you want to understand me with that person 1780 02:42:50.200 --> 02:42:52.520 who is not clear. But in that modeling. I have to be able 1781 02:42:52.559 --> 02:42:54.920 to receive the person, but you have to know that I am. So, 1782 02:42:54.479 --> 02:42:58.000 if I don' t know these traits or nobody has told me about 1783 02:42:58.040 --> 02:43:03.520 them, or I don' t know that there is personality, how I 1784 02:43:03.680 --> 02:43:05.120 ' m going to know who I am and how I could know yes, 1785 02:43:05.280 --> 02:43:09.360 I have to change or I don' t have to change, or even 1786 02:43:09.479 --> 02:43:11.280 how I should change without killing myself or without killing that God wrote in my 1787 02:43:11.280 --> 02:43:15.959 life. I think with all these touches you' ve given us, neuroticism, 1788 02:43:16.840 --> 02:43:20.079 our version, openness, kindness, responsibility, we could keep talking clearly, 1789 02:43:20.399 --> 02:43:26.000 describe a little who we really are. That is why the subject is 1790 02:43:26.079 --> 02:43:30.760 very rich and very broad and we could also continue with it, because it 1791 02:43:30.840 --> 02:43:33.280 is a subject that gives much of itself this and that helps us to understand, 1792 02:43:35.159 --> 02:43:41.200 namely a little, describe the map of ourselves and others also of who 1793 02:43:41.440 --> 02:43:45.920 we are and who others are and who the other or the other is. 1794 02:43:46.479 --> 02:43:50.920 No or how they are absolutely then, well, friends and friends, I 1795 02:43:52.000 --> 02:43:56.360 think we stayed here today and we were very satisfied, because I think there 1796 02:43:56.399 --> 02:44:01.799 have been very good notes on who we really are discovering our true. I, 1797 02:44:01.680 --> 02:44:09.360 therefore, dear Judith, do not keep all that panoply of things that 1798 02:44:09.399 --> 02:44:13.520 you have told us interesting. This is to keep talking about it. Uh, 1799 02:44:13.159 --> 02:44:16.920 really, yeah, because personality is good, it' s all hard, 1800 02:44:16.040 --> 02:44:20.159 it has to be a world, because it' s part of what 1801 02:44:20.319 --> 02:44:22.239 they decide makes us unique. So if God has done something so great and 1802 02:44:22.319 --> 02:44:24.479 he is so great, it has to be very fatty it is extensive the 1803 02:44:24.559 --> 02:44:26.840 subject is not, but it is a very beautiful and wonderful topic. So 1804 02:44:26.840 --> 02:44:33.360 when you want to come back to our personality and who we are. So 1805 02:44:33.440 --> 02:44:37.440 help me send you a very affectionate hug. Judith, that' s always 1806 02:44:37.479 --> 02:44:52.239 a hug if you want to visit our website, the wwwwww. Stop the 1807 02:44:52.360 --> 02:45:09.280 train of life. Stop the train of life to the evangelical churches, a 1808 02:45:09.920 --> 02:45:16.600 place of peace and friendship. You can freely attend the nearest evangelical church in 1809 02:45:16.680 --> 02:45:20.280 your neighborhood or your population. You' ll be very welcome.