WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.279 --> 00:00:08.119 Hudson River Radio dot com. This is Travis Walton and you are listening to 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:24.519 UFO Headquarters, Beautiful Headquarters. Welcome to UFO Headquarters on Hudson River Radio and 3 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:31.239 welcome to part two of Strange Entities. And as a strange entity myself, 4 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:36.600 I'd like to introduce Linda Zimmerman, another strange entity. Thank you very much. 5 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:44.320 Yeah, we we had some fun with the last list of bizarre ones, 6 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:50.719 and boy we've got some more. So yes, shall we dive in. 7 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:54.840 Let's do it all right, We're going to Italy. Have you been 8 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:59.520 to Italy? I have not been to Italy. Oh God, I've got 9 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:03.920 to get there. The history, the food, Yeah, yeah, okay, 10 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:11.000 So we are going to December sixth, nineteen seventy eight, a cold, 11 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:18.239 icy night in the Italian town of Toilia, which is about twenty miles 12 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:26.680 northeast of Genoa. Their twenty six year old Pierre Fortunado Zanfretta, is a 13 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.239 night watchman for the area, not just in one building that he drives all 14 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:36.840 around to different spots. He's married, has two kids. By all accounts, 15 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:42.560 just a normal quiet family man. He's making his rounds. The driving 16 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:49.640 is very dangerous because of the ice and he's checking on the home of doctor 17 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:56.599 Ettore Rigi, who was not there at the time, and suddenly the engine 18 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:00.959 of his Fiat car dies. The lights and rap go off, kind of 19 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:08.000 sounds like em effects or bad engineering. So now he's in the dark, 20 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:15.199 and he realizes there's lights moving around the garden of doctor Regi's house, so 21 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:22.759 he thinks thieves, So bravely he grabs his flashlight and his Smith and Wesson 22 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:30.680 thirty eight special revolver and he goes over to confront the thieves. So he 23 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:36.520 quietly sneaks up to the source of the lights and as he approaches, something 24 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:42.000 touches him on his shoulder. Uh oh, somebody's got the drop on him, 25 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:47.680 so he spins around. Yeah, not a typical thief. He's absolutely 26 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:58.879 stunned because there is more than one ten foot tall green, wrinkled skin skin 27 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:05.759 that was not only wrinkled, but undulating creatures with pointy things sticking out of 28 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:09.919 the side of their face, triangular yellow eyes, red veins in his head 29 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:16.800 and their heads, and a metallic mouthpiece almost like a breathing apparatus. Well, 30 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:22.080 he's terrified. He runs to the car and as he's running to the 31 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:28.719 car he sees a massive triangular craft rising off the ground. So nineteen seventy 32 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:34.960 eight precursor to the Hudson Valley wave. You know, triangle sightings were around, 33 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:39.280 but scarce. So this is a massive triangle. It's brightly lit and 34 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:46.919 it's making a hissing sound and giving off waves of heat, which is interesting. 35 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:53.759 At twelve fifteen, the security company in Genoa gets a call from him 36 00:03:53.879 --> 00:04:03.000 over the radio and radio operator Carlo Tacolino. Here's Freda screaming incoherent he's under 37 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:10.719 assault, and Tacolino's like, who who are these guys? And Zanfreda's yelling 38 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:17.680 nonsno womini, nonsno womini, they are not men. Just puts a chill 39 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:24.800 up my spine and with that the radio transmission goes dead. This reminds me 40 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:30.639 of the Valentage case in Australia when he's flying his small plane and he's saying 41 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:40.319 there's a craft and he's it's not an aircraft, he said before the that's 42 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:44.639 transmission end. It's a very chilling. I think part of the whole the 43 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.759 encounter is, you know, no, they are not men. Yeah, 44 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:53.439 yeah, definitely. So due to the bad weather. It takes a full 45 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:59.920 hour, not till one fifteen am. Another patrol alive arrives, Walter Laia 46 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:06.040 and Raimundo Masia. They find Zenfreda lying on the ground and as they approach 47 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:10.920 him, you know, they think he's unconscious, he suddenly jumps up, 48 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:15.800 totally freaked out and confused, waving his pistol and flashlight at them. Not 49 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:20.439 a good sign when your coworker is out of his mind threatening you with this 50 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:26.079 gun. They talk to him calmly. They manage to grab him, disarm 51 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:31.279 him, and they notice his clothes are very warm, even though this is 52 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:35.720 a bitter cold night. For an hour he's been laying on the ground for 53 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:43.720 as long as but his clothes are warm. So they call in the Carabinieri, 54 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:48.319 that is, the national military police, and where the craft had been. 55 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:57.519 According to his description, there were two nine foot diameter horseshoe shaped prints 56 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:05.279 pressed into the ground, so something large had been there. The local commandant 57 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:13.040 of Tuilia, Antonio Noucci, said he knew Zenfreda for many years, vouched 58 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:17.160 for his honesty, and so he did some digging. He found not one 59 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:25.399 other witness, not two other witnesses, but fifty two other witnesses in the 60 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:30.839 area of doctor Regi's house who either saw the craft or the bright lights. 61 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:38.959 So that's pretty good. Fifty two corroborative witnesses that something was there. So 62 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:45.920 if Sanfredo was trying to create a hoax making up this story, he couldn't 63 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:53.920 have duplicated a craft and these lights flying around. So he saw something so 64 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:57.560 as old. Yeah, I was was going to say, if it's fabricated, 65 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:01.439 you wouldn't expect that. Fifty two corroborating witnesses right to a complete hoax. 66 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.759 At least something was happening that night. Other people saw, Yeah, 67 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:11.199 yep, something strange in the sky at the very least. So as always 68 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.920 happens, he is hounded by the press, and he doesn't want any part 69 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:17.199 of it. He said, I am not a liar. If I could 70 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:21.800 have, I would not have reported my experiences. Now that I see the 71 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:29.560 consequences, how unfortunately, how many times do we hear that? Well, 72 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:34.879 that's weird enough for anybody in one lifetime. But twenty days later he's back 73 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:41.720 on the job. He's recuperated. December twenty sixth, foggy, heavy rain, 74 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:49.000 he's driving on his you know, night watchman business through the Bargalli tunnel 75 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:56.519 near the Skulfera pass. He loses all control of the car. It's not 76 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:01.000 like he smashes into anything. It's driving on on its own. He radios 77 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:07.399 in to headquarters again, my car is driving on its own. Suddenly the 78 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:15.279 car stops and is bathed in a white hot light. That heat again again. 79 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:20.040 It takes a while for another patrol car. One ten am, another 80 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:28.439 patrol car arrives. Sergeant Emmanuel Travenzoli finds Zenfretta on the ground in the cold, 81 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:35.360 pouring rain. Yet his clothes are warm and dry. He's in shock, 82 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:41.159 he's shaking, he's crying. The carabinieri come and they find that his 83 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:48.000 car, his Fiat, is as hot as an oven, inside and out. 84 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.799 Now, how would you fake that? In the it's been in the 85 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:58.279 cold rain for hours, yet it's hot as an oven to the touch on 86 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:05.519 the exter, the entire exterior and on the inside, and also around the 87 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:13.879 car. They find multiple boot prints which are twenty inches long and eight inches 88 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:20.279 wide. That's a pair of boots. Yeah, I don't want to deal 89 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:24.279 with them. I don't want to counter them. No, So if we 90 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:31.279 are to believe Zenfretta with these ten foot tall, pointy headed aliens. He 91 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.679 is abducted by them eleven times in the span of a couple years. Well, 92 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:43.360 he undergoes hypnosis, psychiatrists question him, They find him to be traumatized 93 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:48.919 but saying they even shoot him up with sodium pentathol truth serum, and his 94 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:56.399 stories never change. And again, like the first case where there were fifty 95 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:03.679 two other witnesses, all of these other cases there were other witnesses seeing lights 96 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:11.840 and craft, so something was going definitely going on. So you know, 97 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.200 you really don't want to believe this because it's so outrageous, but they had 98 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:22.919 the imprints of the craft, the imprints of the boots, the inexplicab explicable 99 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:28.960 heat, all the other corroborating witnesses. And unfortunately it takes a little dark 100 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:35.399 turn because one of the times when Zenfreta went missing December two, nineteen seventy 101 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:43.080 nine, four security guards and two cars are searching for him when suddenly a 102 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:48.279 luminous craft beams two lights down on the craft, so now they're bathed in 103 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:58.559 light. They stop their cars. Chief Lieutenant Casiba is terrified and starts shooting 104 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:03.600 at it. Okay, because that's what you do, you shoot at these 105 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:11.799 craft. And unfortunately, security guard Hermano Zenardi was so traumatized by this, 106 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:18.879 they said he lost his mind and ended up shooting himself to death. Oh 107 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:24.200 as a result, he was so traumatized by this. So again you can 108 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:31.799 go to YouTube. You can see the hypnosis session with zen Fretta, but 109 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:37.200 it's in Italian. He is still alive. He is seventy one years old 110 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:43.960 and he is still sticking to these stories. So and you know, if 111 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:48.480 you can see renditions, artists drawings of what the creatures would have looked like, 112 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:54.480 and they are freaky. I mean these aren't pleasant looking at all. 113 00:11:54.600 --> 00:12:00.159 I mean these are just absolutely terrifying. If you had seen something that looks 114 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.039 like this ten feet I mean, no, I don't see it. I 115 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:05.960 don't want to encounter it, you know, wrinkled, spit, skin, 116 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:11.799 spikes out of the head. But after we come back from break, we 117 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:20.440 have a US case with something very similar, so we will be right back 118 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:39.240 Hudson River Radio dot com. This is Hudson River Radio dot com and we're 119 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:43.679 back here. And Linda, that was a very creepy story out of Italy. 120 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:48.639 You know, I've wanted to go there a lot for many years. 121 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.399 I'm not so sure now, but we'll have to see. Maybe I'll get 122 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.639 over it. But well, if you're going to Genoa, it's just a 123 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.639 short drive to Trelia. Well that's that's on my list actually, So yeah, 124 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.200 I may have to make the drive. I'm brave, Oh absolutely all 125 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.080 right, but keep you keep your firearm with you. I don't think they'll 126 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.559 let me bring that with me now, probably not. Probably not all right. 127 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:20.000 So we are going to Pascagoula, Mississippi, on October eleventh, nineteen 128 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.600 seventy three. This might be one of the most famous cases, so probably 129 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.639 a lot of people have heard of it. But I'm wanted to talk about 130 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:37.360 this because they creatures are eerily similar to those in the Zenfreda case. So 131 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:43.360 it's after work one evening and forty two year old Charlie Hickson and his friend 132 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.080 nineteen year old Calvin Parker just fishing on the Pascagoula River. You know, 133 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:54.279 they're not looking for trouble, just unwinding after work. They hear this strange 134 00:13:54.440 --> 00:14:01.720 zipping, whirring sound, see flashing blue lights, and there is a forty 135 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:07.279 foot oval craft about n eight to ten feet high. Now, there were 136 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:13.440 several other witnesses to this craft, so it's not just them gliding out of 137 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:20.240 the craft. Are three creatures who are coming toward them. They have legs, 138 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:24.480 but they're not using it because they're floating two feet above the ground. 139 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:31.200 Kind of sounds like the Peru case. Right. They are described as being 140 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:39.600 about six foot tall, kind of robotic looking, with gray, heavily wrinkled 141 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:45.080 skin like an elephant like the Zanfreta case, only those. I think it 142 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:50.320 was kind of greenish skin, but heavily wrinkled. They had either crab or 143 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:56.679 lobster like pincer hands, very unusual. And guess what they had spike like 144 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:03.279 objects coming out of their head, all right, wrinkled skin spikes out of 145 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:11.399 the head. One is Italy in nineteen seventy eight and the other is in 146 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:18.080 Pascagoula, Mississippi, nineteen seventy three, so rather interesting. And they had 147 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:26.960 slits from mouths, so they were conscious but were like paralyzed brought into brought 148 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:33.960 on board this craft scanned with what was described as kind of a football shaped 149 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:45.600 crystal structure like almost like an eye, scanning them after their medical exams they 150 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:50.279 are floated back to the river bank and the craft takes off. Well, 151 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:56.720 obviously they are shaken, terrified. Calvin doesn't want to report it, but 152 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:58.919 then they realize they have to report it. Maybe other people saw it, 153 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.200 but maybe it's gonna take other people. So they go to the sheriff station 154 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:08.799 and the sheriff is listening. But I mean, how would you react if 155 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:14.759 someone came in the police station and right, what have you been drinking? 156 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:22.000 Especially in nineteen seventy, you know, three different era. Yeah, yeah, 157 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.720 So the sheriff gets a very clever idea. There is a tape recorder 158 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:33.639 hidden under the table in the interview room, and Charlie and Calvin don't know 159 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:37.480 that, so he leaves them alone, and they figure, great, they're 160 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.600 gonna let him talk. Let them hang themselves with this, and when they 161 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.200 play the tape back, they're going to hear them laughing and joking about their 162 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:52.519 funny hoax. Exactly the opposite. These two men are totally freaked out. 163 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:56.080 What just happened? What are we gonna do? What? Nobody's gonna believe? 164 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:00.519 You know, they are traumatized, they something us happened to them. 165 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:10.200 So then they're starting to take it a little more seriously corroborating. Another piece 166 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.920 of corroborating evidence, a couple saw the same craft. I think it was 167 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:18.559 the other side of the river. They were in a parking lot of a 168 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:23.880 restaurant and for just a glimpse, a woman looked down and saw some sort 169 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:30.160 of bizarre creature in the river who matched the description of what Calvin and Charlie 170 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:37.039 saw. Okay, so if there was delusions going around in Pasca Goola that 171 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:42.960 night, it was mass delusions. We could talk all day about this, 172 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:48.079 but what I recommend is going to either the books or there's a lot of 173 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:56.720 podcasts. I recommend Martin Willis's podcast UFO where he had Calvin Parker on his 174 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:02.680 show giving all the details. Definitely look that up. Calvin was just a 175 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:08.960 real down to earth Southern gentleman guy, very believable. Unfortunately he just died 176 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:15.880 at age eighty one just a short time ago. And Jay Allen Heinez said, 177 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:19.759 there is no question in my mind that these men had a very real, 178 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:26.960 frightening experience. So worth looking into this case further. But like I 179 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:32.480 said, I know it's well known, but a lot of people don't know 180 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:38.839 the Zanfreda case and I've never heard anybody tie in the two descriptions. Yeah, 181 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:42.680 they're definitely very similar, you know, not exact, but very similar. 182 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:47.119 Yeah. Yeah, no, not exact, but you know, tall 183 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:52.200 wrinkled skin spikes coming out of the head. I don't think they were sand 184 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.920 hill cranes as was they talked about, as we talked about in the last 185 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:03.640 episode. Not not any sandhill crane that I want to encounter, is for 186 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:08.720 sure. No, So why don't we take our second break and come back 187 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:22.000 to two more bizarre entities Hudson River Radio dot com. This is Hudson River 188 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:32.200 Radio dot com. So we are back from the break, Linda, And 189 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:37.720 so far we've been to Italy, we've been to Mississippi, and I have 190 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:42.960 crossed both of those off of my list of places. If anything. You 191 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:45.680 know, it's like challenge accepted, right, you know, like, alright, 192 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:52.480 let's go and do not forget the barbecue in Mississippi. Bob can attest 193 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.720 to that. I am. I'm sulry. But where are we going next. 194 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:03.119 We're going back to ma Offman territory kind of. We're going back to 195 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:11.839 West Virginia for the famous infamous Flatwoods monster. Okay, I have been to 196 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:18.279 Flatwoods and the quaint little Flatwood's Monster Museum. You know, it's a muster. 197 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.519 There's not much else left in town, unfortunately, but there's a Flatwoods 198 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:30.599 Monster Museum in Braxton County. And on September twelfth, nineteen fifty two, 199 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:36.920 about seven fifteen pm, there is a light described as either a light or 200 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:42.400 a craft going across the sky that seems to land on the farm of g 201 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:48.359 Bailey Fisher. In fact, the Sheriff's department was getting reports of a downed 202 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:56.119 aircraft. So nobody's yelling alien at this point, not yet, but that 203 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:02.839 there's some some sort of object has gone down down. So brothers Ed and 204 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:07.640 Fred May, their friend Tommy Higher see this craft go down, so they 205 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:14.880 run to get Edin, Fred's mother, Kathleen May, seventeen year old Eugene 206 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:18.759 Lemon, who was a member of the National Guard, Neil Nunley, and 207 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:25.039 Ronnie Shaver. So they want to see what's going on, so they go 208 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:27.680 to the farm. They go to the top of the hill. They see 209 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:37.079 a pulsating red light. Then they see a ten foot tall creature with claw 210 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:45.839 like hands. Where we heard that again the Pasca goula case. Yes, 211 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:55.480 it has orange greenish eyes. It has what they describe as like a pleated 212 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:02.960 skirt, which is very interesting. Long pleated green, metallic skirt almost looks 213 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:10.359 like a robot. There is what was described as a pungent mist. Some 214 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:15.880 reports they later fainted from it, but they were all nauseated. It burned 215 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:22.599 their nostrils and some of them vomited for hours afterwards. That's a really really 216 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:29.480 bizarre detail. You don't often hear a lot of these encounters talk about smells 217 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:33.200 and odors that make them sick. Yeah, this is very unique in that 218 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:40.160 respect, Yes, definitely. So the National Guard guy Eugene Lemon, shines 219 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:45.920 his flashlight on it, and when he does, this creature starts gliding, 220 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:52.240 bounding, gliding and bounding again. None of these things seem to walk right 221 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:59.559 toward them. He screams, drops his flashlight, falls backward, jumps up 222 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:03.799 again, and they all run, which was probably wise. So they go 223 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:11.039 back home. They're telling everyone, and thirty minutes later, a local newspaper 224 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:17.279 publisher a Lee Stewart, gets a couple of men with shotguns and of course 225 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:22.680 because you have to shoot at these things, and has Lemon guide them back 226 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:27.319 to where they saw this creature. And it was gone. The craft was 227 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:34.000 gone, but the sickening odor was still there. And they also noted heat 228 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:40.119 waves in the air. I guess, you know, like when heat's rising 229 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:45.880 up and you see that ripple. So there was excessive heat and there was 230 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:51.960 still this seconding, sickening odor. So let's bring in the skeptics eye view 231 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:56.400 of all this. Skeptics like Joe Nickel, okay, point for point, 232 00:23:56.079 --> 00:24:03.960 The light going across the sky was meteor, okay, disregarding that many people 233 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:12.079 saw it land and no meteor was ever found. Pulsating red light was navigation 234 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:19.799 lights on a plane. The ten foot creature was an owl, and the 235 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:26.839 nausea was fear induced. Oh. I forgot to mention that this creature's head 236 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:30.359 was shaped like an upside down ace of spades or the ace of spades with 237 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:36.519 its point up, So I add that. So yes, So the ten 238 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:45.279 foot creature with the uh ace of spades head was an owl. Oh I 239 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:52.279 you know I no, yes, thank you, I mean owl? Yeah, 240 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:56.799 And you know I mean Joe Nichol, that was I mean, he 241 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:03.839 was a skeptic that sought to debunk everything, and he often did what he 242 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:10.079 accused. You know, the believers of doing it as making broad conclusions without 243 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:18.000 a lot of evidence. I find interesting. What what these are? Baby 244 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:25.799 owls? Oh? Okay, Brian is holding up a picture of baby owls, 245 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:32.279 and they do look like gray aliens. I will give you that very 246 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:36.039 little, right, Yeah, baby owls are those are amazing? All right, 247 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:41.319 Sorety, look up baby owls. They are freaky looking, but they 248 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:48.079 were seeing something ten feet tall, and unless owls release a pungent mist that 249 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:52.279 burns your nostrils and makes you vomit. I don't know, miss is. 250 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:57.000 Also don't forget the next day when they found in the field there an odd 251 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:03.440 gummy deposit. Yeah, yeah, wow, somebody said that was so yeah. 252 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:08.799 I don't want to know. Missus may always maintained it looked worse than 253 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:15.519 Frankenstein. They never changed their stories. These people lived, They knew what 254 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:19.000 owls look like. We have a lot of owls. They're all over the 255 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:25.400 place. I have yet to mistake one for a ten foot humanoid. I 256 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.559 mean, you know it's not somebody coming from some foreign land and season owl 257 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:36.680 for the first time and freaks out. Granted, the baby owls, you 258 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:41.960 could mistake them for aliens, but very small aliens. Yes. Yeah, 259 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:48.440 so all the people witnessing something going across the sky, something landing or crashing. 260 00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:53.039 Something happened and I don't think it was a meteor and an owl. 261 00:26:55.039 --> 00:27:00.960 No, no, all right, so we have another owl story, our 262 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:07.279 Final Lives. They're very popular media. Yes they are meteor owls. Yes. 263 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:12.079 When this is another well known case, Kelly Hopkinsville incident, but I 264 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:19.039 thought it dovetailed nicely with the meteor owl story. This is in Christian County, 265 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:26.640 Kentucky and a town named Kelly. At the Lankford Farmhouse on August twenty 266 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:33.119 first, nineteen fifty five, older woman Glennie Lankford is there with her kids 267 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:41.519 Elmer, Lucky Sutton, John Charlie Sutton, their wives manned by the name 268 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:48.200 of Billy Ray Taylor. All together eight adults and three children. There were 269 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:55.400 eleven people. I've seen the ratio of adults to children differently, but eleven 270 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:59.960 people, most of whom were adults. Well, Billy Ray sees a bright 271 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:07.960 lighted craft streak across the sky and disappear behind a tree line some distance from 272 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:14.240 the house. It had an exhaust, all the colors of the rainbow and 273 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.519 kind of looked like a flying saucer. So he runs and tell he's by 274 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.160 the well. He runs and tells everybody. They're all laughing. Oh it's 275 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.359 another one of Billy Ray's stories. So a couple of the guys go out 276 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:33.279 toward the well. All the dogs start barking, animal reaction, and then 277 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:40.599 three and a half foot tall creature looking like a silver gremlin. You remember 278 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:44.839 the Gremlin movies. Yeah, they weren't out yet. In fifty five, 279 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:52.000 big ears, big eyes, silvery looking start coming towards them. They run 280 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.559 inside, actually barricade the house, and these things are trying to get through 281 00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.240 the doors and windows. So what do you do when someone's attacking your house 282 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:07.240 in Kentucky? You start shooting. So with twelve gage shotguns and twenty two 283 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.599 rifles, they are shooting through the windows, shoot the screens as these things 284 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:17.559 are trying. They are shooting up a storm. This one sided attack. 285 00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:23.119 Gunfire goes on for three to four hours. Okay, they are expending some 286 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:29.400 serious ammunition here. They must have been stockpiled. I had that much. 287 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.759 You are in a small town in Kentucky. You are armed and ready. 288 00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:40.160 So these creatures, like we hear all they floated around. They had very 289 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:45.400 spindly legs, human hands. At one point they're trying to escape. They 290 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.559 try to go outside. One was waiting above the door on the roof and 291 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.880 is trying to claw at them. N So they probably go back in and 292 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:59.000 continue shooting. Finally, when it's after all these hours, when it seemed 293 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:03.799 clear, they all ailed in the car and drove to the Hopkinsville police station. 294 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:11.640 They are clearly terrified, traumatized. They're telling this story. These little 295 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.279 creatures are attacking their house. We were shooting at them, so they don't 296 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.480 know what they're going to find. You know, these crazed people come in 297 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:27.119 talk about unloading their weapons repeatedly. So four police officers, five state troopers, 298 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:33.920 three deputy sheriffs, and four military police from Fort Campbell go to the 299 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:40.920 house. They find nothing but bullet holes, no signs of the creature or 300 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.519 a craft. But there was also no indications that anybody had been drinking. 301 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:55.119 The official skeptic explanation. The light that was seen was a meteor and the 302 00:30:55.200 --> 00:31:03.599 creatures were owls, very angry, great horned owls to be exact, because 303 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.240 they're known to be pissed and attack houses even though they're getting shot at and 304 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.440 I think they were shooting at these things and the bullets were having no effect 305 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.279 because owls. Yeah yeah, owls are known to repel bullets. It's a 306 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:25.359 horde of horned owls. Yes, like yeah, I wouldn't you think after 307 00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.799 shooting so much too, wouldn't that scare them away? Whether you're hitting the 308 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.039 hitting them or not. At what point do the birds then stop coming around? 309 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.640 Yeah? Yeah, they take a few pellets, you think they might 310 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:42.160 might go away. So just like flat woods, it's let's chalco it up 311 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:48.799 to meters and owls. Yeah, because people living out in the woods confuse 312 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.720 owls with aliens all the time. Well maybe the baby ones, Brian, 313 00:31:52.880 --> 00:32:00.720 But I mean really, and you know, again, like you said, 314 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.720 why would owls be attacking their house for you know, if somebody goes near 315 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.200 an owl's nest, they feel threatened, they will come after a human. 316 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:19.359 But a four hour prolonged attack by numerous silver owls who repel bullets. No, 317 00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.240 No, it's too simplistic of an explanation. Yeah. Yeah, so 318 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:31.759 there we have it, those damned owls. H But yeah, bizarre, 319 00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.839 bizarre. I mean we could probably do parts three, four, five, 320 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.400 six, seven, and eight and still have material left over, but that 321 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:45.000 that Peruvian case we spoke about in the first episode. If you didn't listen, 322 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.599 go back and listen, just inspired me to like, well, you 323 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:53.640 know, it's not all just these little gray aliens with big heads. There's 324 00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:59.119 some weird stuff out there. Yeah, there definitely is. And if you've 325 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:01.000 seen anything weird like this, you know right in, we want to hear 326 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:06.680 about your own personal encounter with these you know, bizarre and strange entities. 327 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:12.039 Absolutely, that's what we're here for. So take us out, Mike. 328 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.160 So everybody out there listening, if you're new to the show, please binge 329 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:21.039 listen to all of our prior podcast episodes. If you've been a long time 330 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.000 listener, we do thank you and appreciate you. And we are signing off 331 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:28.880 at this point and we've had enough of our strange entities, so we will 332 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:36.640 see you next time on UFO quarters. What'sindrew radio dot com a favorite among 333 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:37.839 shut ins and dogs.