WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.799 The following is a paid podcast. iHeartRadio's hosting of this podcast constitutes neither an 2 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:11.039 endorsement of the products offered or the ideas expressed for cancer treatment. Most prefer 3 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:15.720 effective, non invasive, well tolerated, outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, 4 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:20.120 the radio surgery pioneer's goal too. Doctor Liederman is first in America, first 5 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:24.920 in New York, First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liederman hits your 6 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:29.480 cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades of experience with 7 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:35.000 primary and metastatic large or small cancers from head to toe cancer treatment with possibly 8 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:40.439 a second chance for you even if chemo radiation or surgery didn't work or isn't 9 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:45.280 tolerated. Goals are your best results and quality of life. Meet doctor Leaderman 10 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:50.039 to hit the cancer. He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation 11 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:55.280 oncologist. Call two one two choices two one two choices to meet doctor Liderman 12 00:00:55.439 --> 00:01:00.640 for a fresh second opinion. Most insurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted free with DVD 13 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:04.840 two super convenient Broadway in thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liederman to hit 14 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:10.200 your cancer, called two one two choices two one two choices. It's Doctor 15 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:14.439 Leaderman with Carrie Stubbs, who sings and writes about his cancer treatment. Thirteen 16 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:18.799 eighty four Broadway and thirty eight. Cataplane hop a train, don't has a 17 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:23.400 tap? Call two on two choices for an appointment, Mate, so cancer 18 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.879 can be said straight? My cancer it was twenty two centimeters. Now I 19 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:33.040 am cancer free. No cutting, no bleeding, no hospital stay, no 20 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:41.040 chemo therapy. I'm grateful to Doc taleder Man at New York Radio Surgery. 21 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:46.079 No cutting, no bleeding, no hospitals. Day made me very happy. 22 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:51.719 Thirteen eighty four Broadway and thirty eight. If the address my cancer had been 23 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:57.120 set straight? Called to on two choices for an appointments Mate, Do toleeder 24 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.760 Men's top rights. For more information about innovative cancer treatment, called doctor Leederman 25 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:05.319 two and two choices, two and two choices, thirteen eighty four Broadway. 26 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:09.240 Most insurance is accepted for newer recurrent cancers. Call Doctor Leaderman two and two 27 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:23.319 choices. Welcome everybody. It's the Radio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman, 28 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:30.080 MD, New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist who brings you 29 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:36.280 the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world renowned cancer experts, delving to special 30 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:40.800 cases, and of course answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from 31 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:46.680 the WR Studios in the heart of New York City, and now please welcome 32 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:52.199 doctor Leaderman. Thank you Rob, and thank you no and thank you for 33 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:55.120 listening today and every day on the radio. We're here every day. Why 34 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:00.599 to learn together, to learn things to get better health healthcare. If God 35 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:06.000 forbid you or your loved one or family or friend, or even that person 36 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:09.240 down the street has a cancer, either a new cancer or recurrent cancer, 37 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:14.080 or cancer just won't go away, he might learn a lot. And we 38 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:19.360 know that radio listeners save lives. I know that because I meet patients every 39 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:22.719 day and I talk to my patients, and I take notes, and I 40 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.800 come here and we talk about each of the patients who come by. You 41 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:30.000 may not know exactly what their name is or their address, but you'll know 42 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.560 enough to learn the lessons like this man. For example, I'm we talk 43 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:38.520 about a man right now who's eighty six years old. He comes from Jamaica. 44 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:43.879 He's widowed with four children. His high blood pressure is prostate cancer, 45 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:49.080 and he was on loopron, who was on hormones for twenty years. His 46 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:58.199 doctor kept him on loopron for twenty years with inadequate treatment of his prostate cancer. 47 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:00.680 It is he might say, no nuts, yeah, nuts, because 48 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.159 lupron. First of all, there's a cost, there's side effects. Lupron 49 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:10.159 is an anti testosterone agent, so it takes away his testosterone for twenty years. 50 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.919 He's eighty six, and he's a spray man. He's fully active, 51 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:16.480 he's carrying on all his normal activities. He came in I should tell you 52 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:21.120 he came in years ago. He came in years ago. He had inadequate 53 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:28.439 radiation treatment elsewhere. He went elsewhere and his treatment was not adequate, not 54 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:32.120 optimal, and his doctor put him on lupron. He bet him on this 55 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:38.639 railroad, tracked lupron eternity, and well, finally the men got fed up 56 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:43.600 with his doctor and he came here for a fresh second opinion. And so 57 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:48.480 many people come here for fresh second opinions. So people come here and they 58 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:51.319 want to know, Hey, do I have cancer? So they want to 59 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:56.160 check up. Some people come here when they want to know what should I 60 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:00.720 do for my newly diagnosed cancer what are all the options, and we talk 61 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.240 about all the options. Were so different than most places. It seems like 62 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:09.680 most doctors kind of like sell what they do. The surgeons to surgery, 63 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.120 chemo does chemo, and the radiation is no, we don't do it that 64 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.800 way at all. We talk about all the options, and then there's people 65 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.800 who've had cancer diagnosed in the past, like this man, and they're just 66 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:25.480 not satisfied. It took him twenty years. Twenty years of loopron. I 67 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:30.639 can tell you lupron causes weakness, takes away testosterone, takes away sexual feelings 68 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.879 and erections. There's weight gain and other things, none of which are very 69 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:40.759 favorable. And he came to me and we got his records for twenty years, 70 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:46.439 and the amazing good thing is that his cancer was localized and we offered 71 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:51.800 him treatment. He came here years ago after he'd been treated elsewhere with inadequate 72 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:57.879 radiation therapy. Then he had loopron for twenty years, and the men was 73 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.439 fed up with it. He just didn't want loupron. Another day, another 74 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:05.000 minute, and he came here and we treated him years ago and now he 75 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:11.319 is cancer free, doing well with us. He just had a short course 76 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:15.279 of treatment, not twenty years of treatment, not inadequate radiation, but he 77 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:20.120 had focused treatment by the doctor first with radio surgery in the Western Hemisphere, 78 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:25.600 when all the other places doing standard treatment, one doctor stood up and say, 79 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:29.839 there's a better way. We should focus the treatment on the cancer, 80 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:34.480 not unhealthy tissue. And so many doctors and so many facilities and so many 81 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:39.399 hospitals, and oh, that guy's a charlatan, when in fact it only 82 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:44.160 makes sense that you should treat the cancer and not the healthy tissues. And 83 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.920 this technology was never available or before, doctor Liederman. And this is the 84 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:54.720 work we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway. So for this man, 85 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:59.199 he had cancer, he was dissatisfied with his care. He came for 86 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:02.959 a fresh second opinion, and thank god we treated him. He's been cancer 87 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:10.759 free for years after our treatment, with our treatment only no chemo, no 88 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:15.519 hormones, no surgery, no cutting, no bleeding. And this is the 89 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:20.160 work that we do every day. And we have lots of information to send 90 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:25.839 you. We have booklets and DVDs. You can call our office and you 91 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:28.639 call now or whenever you want to get a package mailed to you. It 92 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:32.040 no charge, is no obligation and many people come to our office in person 93 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:39.160 and get a package or information for themselves and someone else, a friend or 94 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.519 a loved one, someone in need. And I can tell you so many 95 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:46.160 radio listeners pass on the word they hear about cancer. Often it's just even 96 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:50.319 in a grocery store or restaurant. They're someone talking about cancer and they pat 97 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:55.160 him on the shoulder and say, hey, you may want to see doctor 98 00:07:55.279 --> 00:08:01.920 Liederman. This man came saw us thirteen eighty four Broadway, except his insurance. 99 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.199 We put together all the facts, we've got his paperwork for twenty years, 100 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:09.439 and then offered him treatment, all the options we talked about, all 101 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:15.720 the options local, regional, systemic combination, even no therapy, and he 102 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:20.199 chose our treatment and he's now cancer free years later. And this is the 103 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:26.120 work we do every day for new or recurrent cancers, most anywhere in the 104 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:31.839 body. I want to talk about a woman who comes. She's a woman, 105 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:35.159 she's a very elegant woman. She's eighty eight, she probably looks like 106 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:41.200 she's fifty eight. She's very elegant. And her brother is a plastic surgeon, 107 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.120 so he's someone who cuts, and he cuts on skin cancers. And 108 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:50.960 he saw this lump on his sister's nose and it was biop seed, and 109 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:58.320 in fact it was a skin cancer. And the brother, who's a plastic 110 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:05.919 surgeon, said he you should not have surgery because her dermatologists wanted her to 111 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:11.840 have surgery on her nose. And she, the patient and her brother, 112 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:16.759 who's a prominent plastic surgeon in New York City, said it's crazy. I 113 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:18.720 don't want to be deformed. I don't want part of my nose missing. 114 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:22.039 And it was right on the tip of her nose, and she had a 115 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:26.799 biopsy. She came back to us, We discussed it. We discussed it 116 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.639 with her, and she discussed it with her brother. And this is the 117 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:33.919 work that we do every day, and so many people come to us with 118 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.840 skin cancer. In fact, there's three million Americans every year with skin cancer, 119 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:45.039 and the vast majority, Sarah to say, have surgery. And so 120 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:52.519 often the surgery is so deforming because surgery or moe's mohs moe's surgery is really 121 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:56.440 like excavation in the part of the body, whether it's the nose, eyes, 122 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:01.440 ears, cheek, hand, feet, or elsewhere on the body. 123 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:07.360 And so many people just don't want to be deformed and sad to say. 124 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:13.039 Sad to say when so many doctors who do Mo's most are to say, 125 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.240 oh, they can see the last cancer cell. Well, doctors can't see 126 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:20.600 the last cancer cell. And it's not true in my view. And I 127 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.120 can tell you how do I know that? Well, we see so many 128 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:30.639 people who've had Moe's MOHS Moe's surgery whose cancer comes back right in the same 129 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:35.879 spot. So obviously, if the surgeon removed the cancer, the last cancer 130 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.799 cell, the cancer wouldn't come back in the same spot. So why does 131 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:46.000 the cancer come back in the same spot after Mo's and usually MOSE's deforming surgery? 132 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.879 Why does it come back in the same spot because cancer was left behind 133 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:54.840 because the doctor can't see the last cell. And it'd be great if it 134 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.440 were true, but it's not true. And if it were true that the 135 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.480 doctor could see the last cell, who would want deforming surgery in their nose 136 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.480 or ear, or eye or mouth. Had a woman who came in yesterday 137 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:11.279 and she has a skin cancer right on her lip. Young woman from Australia. 138 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.200 She came here just for evaluation and she knows it with surgery, part 139 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:22.200 of her lip and face would be deformed. Probably she'd have difficulties speaking and 140 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.960 eating, and probably everyone that looks at her. We look at this big 141 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:30.519 scar, the hole in the lip, and who would want that? And 142 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:35.679 she came here yesterday. We talked about all the options and she chose our 143 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:41.120 treatment. Why because there's no cutting, no bleeding. There's a high success 144 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:45.919 rate for treatment of skin cancers, approximately ninety five percent. It's a few 145 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.039 treatments, it's outpatient. You come in, get a treatment and move on. 146 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.399 And this is the work that we do every day at thirteen eighty for 147 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.440 Broadway. And in fact, we have a new book with DVD about skin 148 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.919 cancer, and we'd be happy to send it to you, or you can 149 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.840 pick it up, or you can call and make an appointment. We accept 150 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:11.639 most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. We have a huge experience over decades with 151 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:15.960 thousands of patients treated, and we have a whole team that works together on 152 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.159 this project with high success. This is the work we do every day for 153 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:26.799 newer, recurrent skin cancers. This patient had a cancer run on the tip 154 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.320 of the nose. She and her plastic surgeon brother both agreed there's no reason 155 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:37.120 to do surgery. It'd be deforming it wasn't wanted. She chose our treatment 156 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.720 and now follow up. I just saw her recently. Her cancer is gone 157 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.759 and her nose is perfect. Her cancer is gone and her nose is there, 158 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.039 and she looks great. And no one would know that she ever had 159 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.559 treatment except for she and me, and I guess her brother. This is 160 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.360 the work we do. It's like the old commercial, but Clara har Dyer, 161 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:03.600 who know who knows between you and your hairdresser? Well, for skin 162 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.000 cancer, it's only the patient and us, no cutting, no bleeding, 163 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:13.720 high success, outpatient therapy. This is the work that we do every day 164 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.960 at thirteen eighty four Broadway. We accept most insurances. We have literature to 165 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:22.879 send you. It's always best to meet in person. You can ask all 166 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:26.159 your questions. We can see you, and we can talk about you and 167 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:31.000 get your records and discuss all the options. My name doctor Liederman. We'll 168 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.679 be right back. Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery didn't 169 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:41.279 help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain. Many people with 170 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:46.200 cancer come to doctor Liederman when their caregiver has no more care to offer. 171 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:50.840 Doctor Liederman bringing innovative cancer care for decades, when the next cancer drug is 172 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.639 not as promised. When surgery was the fail to pass, we may be 173 00:13:54.759 --> 00:14:01.120 able to offer you new cancer treatment options. We treat new and recurrent cancers, 174 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.799 small or large, most anywhere in the body, even if prior chemo, 175 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:11.080 radiation or surgery didn't work. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices two 176 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:16.519 and two choices for a free booklet DVD thirty eighth and Broadway. Most insurances, 177 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:22.200 Medicare, Medicaid accepted, Harvard trained, Triple Board certified Doctor Liederman two 178 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.639 and two choices two and two choices for innovative cancer treatment. Best is to 179 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:31.879 meet doctor Liederman in person. Call two and two choices two on two choices. 180 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:39.120 Radical surgeries deform beautiful bodies. Doctor Liederman treats cancer noninvasively. Woman afraid 181 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.399 to cancel mystectomy. Afraid to offend doctors more than deforming her own body. 182 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:48.799 Woman lost her face, vision, hearing and smell by doctor she felt walked 183 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.440 on water. Water is gone. Cancer is back. Woman lost her entire 184 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:58.519 arm cancer relapsed with vengeance. Here for second chance after not wanting to wait 185 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.360 minutes to see doctor Liederman, a visit that might have saved her arm and 186 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:07.519 life. Prostate cancer surgery. Elsewhere, deforms, leaks, impairs shortens. 187 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:13.320 Right moment to meet doctor Liederman for cancer treatment is now. Doctor Liederman might 188 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:18.840 save your life. Doctor Leederman, most experienced body radio surgery. Accepts most 189 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:22.399 insurances, Medicare, Medicaid, thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth First in 190 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:28.360 America. Call doctor Leiderman two and two choices, two and two choices. 191 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:33.879 Call doctor Liederman two and two choices. Welcome back to the radio Surgery Hour. 192 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:37.600 This is Rob Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the WR Studios in 193 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.879 the hearts of New York City for just a few steps from the radiosurgery in 194 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:45.480 New York Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Leiderman, 195 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:50.200 the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He was the first 196 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.960 in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery, and he's the first in America 197 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:58.679 and in the Western Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor 198 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.799 Liderman at two and two choices for a free informative booklet and DVD. Hey 199 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:04.840 doctor Liederman, we're back. We're back, and I want to talk about 200 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:11.080 another skin cancer and a very famous person, Jimmy Buffett. Jimmy Buffett's well 201 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.840 known for his music, is well known for his restaurants. Marguerite Taville. 202 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:21.559 Well, he had a skin cancer and he died. Sad to say of 203 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:27.039 that skin cancer, and all this informations in the journals in Wall Street Journal, 204 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:30.320 New York Times, for example. He died at age seventy six, 205 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:34.840 and he died of merkel cell cancer of the skin. He had lots of 206 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:38.600 sun exposure. He loved the son. He was out in the sun in 207 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:45.320 Florida for many, many years, and very likely that sun exposure predisposed him 208 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:49.639 to this cancer. So why do we talk about him? Sad to say, 209 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:53.120 to honor him and to recognize him and to remember him, of course, 210 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.840 and also a warning sign. If you see an abnormality in your skin, 211 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:02.840 you should get checked out. And I can tell you that we see 212 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:07.920 many, many mercle cell cancers. It's said there's only twenty five hundred a 213 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.759 year in America. Well, we see many merkle cells. We see many 214 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:17.759 skin cancers, and I can tell you that our success rate for Merkle cell 215 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:22.799 cancer is very very high. Most skin cancers, there's about three million a 216 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:26.680 year basal cell and squamous cell. But Merkle cell at twenty five hundred is 217 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:33.599 a cancer. It's very well treated with focused radiation. This is the work 218 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:37.200 we do. We have lots of experience, and sad to say we've lost 219 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:45.160 a great entertainer and personality and human being, and sad to say, I 220 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.559 hope he's the last one that we lose from skin cancer. If you have 221 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.319 blumps, bump, something new in your skin you're not certain about, come 222 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.359 in, get checked out, see your dermatologists, get checked out, have 223 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:00.400 a biopsy. That's always the best way, and give us it's a call. 224 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.640 We have information to send you. If you wish, you can call 225 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:08.440 us a two one two choices, two and two choices and her number is 226 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:14.640 two and two choices because two and two means New York City and choices, 227 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:22.079 because we truly believe you have choices. There's almost always choices available for someone 228 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:27.240 with a diagnosis of cancer or treatment of cancer, or even how to get 229 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:33.039 diagnosed. There's different ways, different ways to do biopsies. There's easy ways 230 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:37.640 and there's hard ways, and there's expensive ways and there's less expensive ways. 231 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:41.720 And we always try to find the least invasive, least costly, and best 232 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:48.359 way to diagnose a person, and then to offer all the options. And 233 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:52.720 this is the work that we do every day. At thirteen eighty for Broadway, 234 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.200 I'll talk about a woman who comes to us from Haiti. She and 235 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:02.440 her husband are are in a church, very prominent church in Brooklyn. She 236 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:04.319 is sixty eight years old. She's a black woman. I said it because 237 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:10.200 of the Black community. The death is about two hundred and fifty percent higher 238 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:15.240 other groups. And we obviously treat men and women and children of every race 239 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:19.960 and religion and creed and color that you can possibly imagine. She's sixty eight 240 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:23.440 years old, she's married, she has two children, says high blood pressure. 241 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:27.720 She's had mestectomy. In fact, she said bilateral messed actomies. And 242 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:33.000 I can tell you when I first came to New York, ninety seven percent 243 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:37.079 of the women at the big hospitals were getting mestectomy for the treatment of breast 244 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:41.839 cancer, whereas in my practice ninety percent of the women who were keeping their 245 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:47.799 breast. So there's a huge difference in treatment. And still we see women 246 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:52.960 with messt ectomies and bilatteral messed actomies often women getting bilatterle messed actomies who don't 247 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:59.480 even have a cancer in the other breast, And well we talk about that. 248 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.799 That's why so important for women with breast cancer or a lump to give 249 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:10.119 us a call and come in and talk about all the options before. Anyway, 250 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:17.000 she had bilateral mestectomies and she had standard radiation and the cancer came back. 251 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:21.240 And also because of the mestectomy, she was left with a swollen arm, 252 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:26.640 called them fedema. She had had chemotherapy, she had years of chemotherapy 253 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.279 and the cancer was growing on the chemotherapy, and she was very torn. 254 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:36.480 She's a very elegant woman and her husband's very elegant men and their head of 255 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:41.599 a church. They have lots of poise and personality. And we would chew 256 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:47.799 the data and we went through her records and showed her that the cancer was 257 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:53.240 growing on the chemotherapy elsewhere, So she was getting treated elsewhere and the cancer 258 00:20:53.359 --> 00:21:00.000 was growing growing, and that's obviously a bad sign. It's a bad sign, 259 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.640 and the cancer is growing on treatment. And I can tell you in 260 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:07.640 reality, she had stage four cancer. She had lymph notes in the chest 261 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:15.839 and diseased her lung that chemo essentially always fails, and most likely the chemo 262 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:18.480 doctors will never tell you that. But chemo might work for a few weeks 263 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:22.400 or months and then the cancer grows back, and that's exactly what it was 264 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.960 doing in her. And then she would change chemos and it worked less well 265 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.680 and less well, and she was getting toxicity and side effects with a neuropathy 266 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:36.000 or blood counts, and she had the side effect from the surgery with her 267 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:40.519 arm being swollen, and she lost both breasts. And then she came here 268 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:45.119 and it was a moment of enlightenment. And the first she didn't exactly trust 269 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.200 me, so we had to prove to her, and we proved to her 270 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:53.200 that the cancer was growing. We got new scans and showed her that even 271 00:21:53.240 --> 00:22:00.759 on her chemotherapy the cancer was growing. That means it wasn't work. So 272 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:06.079 she was paying On average, chemotherapy is between one hundred and two hundred thousand 273 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:10.720 dollars a year, and we all pay for that. Everyone pays for that, 274 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:15.119 and obviously, what good does it do when she's taken the chemotherapy. 275 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:21.079 She's paying a lot of money and it's not working well. I would say 276 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.799 it's doing no good. In fact, it's terrible, and we talked about 277 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:29.400 all the options, and she chose to stop the chemo, even though she'd 278 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.359 been with her doctor for many years. The doctor had been giving her chemo, 279 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.160 and the doctor got hundreds of thousands of dollars with the hospital and it 280 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:41.759 didn't work. She came here. We found the cancer in her lung and 281 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:45.119 in her lymph node, and we treated that. She had just a few 282 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:52.240 treatments to her lung and lymph node, and now she's cancer free in remission 283 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:56.880 and it's beautiful rather than chemo every week. She had a few treatments last 284 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:00.960 year, she's been in remission. She's still in she's doing great, and 285 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:06.480 she has more time to herself, less side effects, less cost, and 286 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:11.720 more precise treatment. Chemo goes everywhere. It's like a poison that goes throughout 287 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.359 the body. It's like putting your body in a bath of a poison versus 288 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.319 our treatment, which is focused on the cancer totally. The opposite. Our 289 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:25.079 treatment is focused with about a ninety percent success rate for the rest of the 290 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:29.880 life of the patient, versus chemo, which is poisoned throughout the body really 291 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:36.559 and the cancer always comes back. So for her, she trusted me, 292 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:40.839 and I'm grateful for that, and her husband trusted me. We treated her 293 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:47.160 pinpoint treatment, non invasive treatment, and now she is in remission, no 294 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:52.400 evidence of cancer. And this is the work we do, and this is 295 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:56.640 why we are here in the radio, so you can learn and you can 296 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.640 tell your friends and neighbors and even the person down the street that you might 297 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:04.839 know is suffering from cancer that there are options. This elegant woman was getting 298 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:10.319 chemo and the cancer was growing, and sad to say, her doctors didn't 299 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:15.039 even tell her that the cancer was growing. I want to introduce myself because 300 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:19.200 there's so many people on the radio and so many people in general talking and 301 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:23.319 giving advice who are not really, in my view, fit to give advice. 302 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.799 So I take a couple of minutes to explain who I am and describe 303 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:32.599 who I am. My name's doctor Gil Liederman. I was born and raised 304 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:36.640 in Waterloo, Iowa. I went to public school, university, medical school, 305 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:41.720 MD at twenty five, real doctor MD at twenty five, Not a 306 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:47.000 do not a nurse, not a Hamburger helper, not a publicist, no 307 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:52.079 a real doctor MD. Like my brother Ted MD at twenty five and my 308 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:59.440 son, my handsome, smart, compassionate son Doctor Ario Liederman, also MD 309 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:04.000 ATWE twenty five. There's three doctor Liederman's, all real doctors. MDA twenty 310 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:12.039 five let arial Leaderman trained. He's board certified in cancer radiation therapy, trained 311 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:17.319 at some of the biggest facilities across America, and he's now working at thirteen 312 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:22.880 eighty four Broadway, and his patients are lucky to see him. Lucky because 313 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:30.400 he's thoughtful and caring and compassionate and complete. He's real doctor MDA twenty five, 314 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:37.359 Board certified. Here for you. I after MDA twenty five from the 315 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.799 University of Iowa, went on to Chicago Michael Reese training internal medicine for three 316 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:48.599 years, board certified, went on to Harvard Medical School, trained at prestigious 317 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:55.000 Dana Farber Cancer treat treated thousands of cancer patients on the staff at Dana Farber, 318 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:57.640 and then went on at Harvard Medical School to the Joint Center for Radation 319 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:04.440 Therapy again three years of training, thousands of patients. Board certified. The 320 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:11.480 only Harvard trained triple board certified radiation doctor in New York and one of the 321 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:18.319 few in the world. Here for you accepting most insurances, Medicare Medicaid here 322 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.799 for you at thirteen eighty four Broadway. We have cancer questions or the possibility 323 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:27.960 of cancer. You're always welcome to come in if you have new diagnosis or 324 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:33.680 recurrent cancer, when other treatments aren't working, aren't tolerated, it's always best 325 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:40.279 to meet in person. We don't do phone consults because there's so many mistakes. 326 00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:42.839 You can't examine the patient, we can't see the patient. It's just 327 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:48.240 fraught with danger. We like to give the patient the best chance to have 328 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.319 the best advice, and that's why we meet in person. My name is 329 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.880 doctor Liederman. I want to tell you one more secret today, and that 330 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.799 is that we're on the RADIOWR every day. 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So 347 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:23.200 even though we are on a fifty thousand watt stations broadcasts halfway across America, 348 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:29.160 you can listen anywhere in the world to this program. And we're here every 349 00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:33.720 day for you. Just tune in, we'll be right back. When doctor 350 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.359 Leederman came to New York from Harvard, ninety seven percent of women in New 351 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:41.799 York were losing their breasts as breast cancer treatment, but ninety percent of doctor 352 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:47.400 Liederman's patients with breast cancer, We're keeping their breasts. Doctor Liederman, an 353 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:52.160 outspoken advocate of breast saving therapy, educated women about choices. To arm every 354 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:59.119 woman about breast cancer choices. Breast saving whenever possible and desired. When every 355 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.640 hospital thoughts standard radiation was okay, doctor Liederman had a better IDEA Innovative Doctor 356 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:08.920 Leederman first brought brain radio surgery to New York and body radio surgery to America. 357 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:15.279 Meet doctor Leederman, breast conserving therapy over decades. Thirteen eighty four, 358 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.680 Broadway at thirty eighth, Call two on two choices, two and two choices 359 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:23.599 about breast cancer treatment. Most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. For a 360 00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:29.440 fresh second opinion, called doctor Leederman. Breast cancer treatment called two and two 361 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.039 choices, two and two choices. Call doctor Leederman today, two and two 362 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.759 choices. It's doctor Liederman with Calvin West singing and writing about his cancer treatment. 363 00:29:41.279 --> 00:30:00.559 I had cancer and my home suboda the radio surgery reader ches so good. 364 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:15.720 Well to thank doctor and you Eliot Jr. Katzer, it's not counting 365 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:26.319 two three? Well up, No read your band that is so too free 366 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.079 for cancer treatment. Called doctor Leederman two and two choices, two and two 367 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.400 choices, Call doctor Liederman. Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This 368 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.640 is Rob Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at the w o R studios in 369 00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.519 the hearts of New York City, were just a few steps from the Radio 370 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.559 Surgery New York Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, 371 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.799 the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer non invasively. He was the 372 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.440 first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery, and he's the first in 373 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:59.359 America and in the Western Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call 374 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.240 doctor Leader in at two and two choices for a free informative booklet and DVD. 375 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.680 Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back. We're back, and we have 376 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.640 a special guest. We have Sean Conry on the radio. Hello, Sean 377 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.720 love quite come on that. I was told it's double seven? Oh sure 378 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.920 is? Oh yeah, it's double seven. But everyone knows W seven is 379 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:26.160 Sean Conry? Everyone knows that. Yeah, well I know that, that's 380 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.440 for sure. Where's your Scottish accent? Yeah? Well I lost it. 381 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.559 I've been in America too long, so I know who you are because you're 382 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:41.160 double O seven and many people, actually many many listeners KNOWBO seven, but 383 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:47.000 you're the real double seven. Right, Oh yeah, definitely. Maybe some 384 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:51.160 people don't know who the real double seven is. So maybe you can tell 385 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:56.599 the listeners who you are. Okay. In two thousand and five, eighteen 386 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.880 years ago, doctor Leedhaman treated me, no, no, no, no 387 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.400 no. Your story goes back further than that. You had a PSA of 388 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.839 three and your doctor told you were home free. Right. Well, okay, 389 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.319 I was in the good habit of taking a annual physical, and I 390 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:29.240 also was obsessed with keeping the results filed away. And I noticed approximately the 391 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:36.039 year two thousand that my PSA was point eight. The next year it was 392 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.400 a little bit higher. Up until two thousand and five it went up to 393 00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:44.960 three point three. And your doctor told you, hey, your everything's okay. 394 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.759 Your PSA is only three point three. Right. Well, well, 395 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:53.000 because you know that this number, that the number four, which was the 396 00:32:53.519 --> 00:33:00.960 then arbitrary number, arbitrary number, right right, So I said, you 397 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:07.240 know, I mean I had to mentioned it. I said, why don't 398 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:12.039 we have a little biopsy here? I have a biopsy on my prostate. 399 00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.319 You told your doctor, Hey, my PSA is tripled, tripled. It 400 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.359 went from zero point eight to three and a quarter. It tripled even more, 401 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:30.440 quadrupled. Sure, I ended up having prosject cancer sad so for two 402 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:35.119 thousand and five, so almost twenty years ago, right, yeah, And 403 00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.880 he, you know, he suggested surgery, and I said no. What 404 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.200 did you say? No? I mean surgery, No, surgery is the 405 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.200 most common treatment for prostate cancer. But I hardly believe. Well, well, 406 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:54.920 I didn't want to get operated on the side effects for incontinent sex life 407 00:33:55.039 --> 00:34:00.799 is gone, you don't really have one anymore. And them, So what 408 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.480 did you think? Why did he propose surgery if he knew that, I 409 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.199 mean, he'd operated on other people, he knew that they would take away 410 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.559 your sex life, he knew that he would cause leak each of the year, 411 00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.639 and he knew he'd caused shortening of the penis. Why would he do 412 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:23.719 that? Because this is their their way of curing, of putting you in 413 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:29.199 all they think, putting you into remission for the cancer. Just to read 414 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.000 I think, excuse me, excuse me, double seven. I think it's 415 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.039 not the way of curing. I think it's not the way of premission. 416 00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.280 It's their way of treating prostate can treating. Yeah, okay, because the 417 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:42.840 treatment. I mean, if you look at our data versus surgical data, 418 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.440 our data is by far superior, more likely to be cancer free with us 419 00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:52.880 than with the surgeon. Well, yeah, I'm a testament to that because 420 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.400 it's been eighteen years. I mean, well eighteen years. So what happened? 421 00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:01.280 So twenty years ago you had this say, you were smart and you 422 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:06.119 still are smart, and you insisted in a biopsy when your doctor told you, 423 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.440 hey, everything's normal, and you were right. You had a cancer. 424 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.199 Oh yeah, I did. Right. Then they want to have your 425 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:19.960 surgery, and you were smart again. You refused the surgery because you didn't 426 00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.599 want to be impedent and inconinent and shortened. Right, you were double smart. 427 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:30.159 Right. Well, the shortening is something I just found out about from 428 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.880 you over the last couple of years, where you have mentioned that, which 429 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.400 is like a plumber when a plumber, when a plumber cuts out a segment 430 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.039 of a pipe, he has to bring the ends together to make that pipe 431 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.119 work. And the same is true with the urethra. The ereather is a 432 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:47.559 tube from the bladder out to the rest of the world through the penis. 433 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:52.239 If they cut out the urethra, which is inside the prostate, they have 434 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:58.519 to reconnect it, which shortens the tube. It shortens the penis. Yeah, 435 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.840 yeah, like I said, you you inform me of that over the 436 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:08.000 radio, mentioning it by the radio people. The radio people got very nervous 437 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:12.880 that I talk about this organ which I think most of the world knows that 438 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:19.400 half of the world has one on half zoned right. So anyway, why 439 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.079 do you come to me? Why did you Why did you not just take 440 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:28.199 that surgery that he proposed? Well, because your your treatment was a very 441 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:37.320 I can only say, very easy to do. It's very easy explain it 442 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.239 to people who don't know what I do. Yeah, after you go through 443 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:47.920 the testing, proceeded to map out actually where the cancer is. The doc 444 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:57.840 calls it staging the office there you you get The doctor calls it the stereotactic 445 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.519 frame. It's a mold of the back of your body. So you lie 446 00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.320 in the same position every time you get the treatment. They put you on 447 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:13.239 the table. Doctor says it's computerized. So you lie on the table, 448 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.840 you lie on the frame or mold, whatever you want to call it, 449 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:24.079 and device goes over your body, pinpoint radiation to the prostate. That maybe 450 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:30.159 takes about ten minutes, and you'll find there's no side effects, there's no 451 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:34.280 after effects, there's nothing at all. You get dressed and you go and 452 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.679 do whatever it is that you'll do. In my case, I was still 453 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:44.199 working at the time, so I took a little time off about approximately an 454 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:50.559 hour from our meaning the traveling time to get to doctor's office, get the 455 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.760 treatment, and go back to my office was approximately an hour's time, and 456 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:59.599 I was able to complete my day at my work. Okay, well, 457 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:04.440 didn't even tell people how great you are. You ride a bicycle to work 458 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.480 or just twenty miles or so to work and from work. You go to 459 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.880 work, you got your treatment, you went back to work, you worked 460 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:16.320 a full day, and then you carried on normally. Right. Yeah. 461 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:21.880 Bicycle, Yeah, that was my way of getting to my office. As 462 00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.679 crazy as that sounds, I use a bicycle to work every day. Well, 463 00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:28.559 it's not crazy. It keeps your great health. It keeps you great 464 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.639 health. I mean, how many people who have radical surgery could be riding 465 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.000 a bicycle to and from work on the same day. No, No, 466 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:39.079 if you had radical surgery and you know you are incapacitated for a while, 467 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:44.639 you know, because you got a heel and something I just didn't want to 468 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:47.119 deal with. You know, I have these a question. When they do 469 00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:53.360 the processing operation, how do they get to it from the front. Well, 470 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:57.320 there's different ways you can you can do it. You can do it 471 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:04.079 through the bottom or from the front, because there's different ways open surgery or 472 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.440 leposcopic surgery, NDO scoptic surgery. How but I want to talk to you 473 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:12.559 a minute. I a question. You actually know how surgery is because you 474 00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.760 had a very good friend of yours who at the same time you had treatment. 475 00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:21.800 That man that you played bach You with had surgery. Right, Oh 476 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:27.239 yeah, he had robotic surgery, that's what he right? And how did 477 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.559 how did he fare? Robotic surgery is supposed to be so fantastic? So 478 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:35.480 this is one of your good friends and you saw him every day. Yeah, 479 00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:45.400 yeah, he Ronnie uh got robotic surgery for his bust state and for 480 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:51.320 about approximately a month after it, he had to wear a cat at him. 481 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:52.920 Okay, let's put it that way. And he, you know, 482 00:39:53.039 --> 00:40:00.960 told me some personal stuff that his sex life wasn't the way was before the 483 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:10.840 surgery. It's yeah, And like I I'm not really sure what happened to 484 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.639 him, what the other things had happened to him. Okay, it did 485 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.760 come back. That I know it did come back. The cancer did come 486 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:27.719 back. He went through some radiation treatments because there's normal prostata to remove, 487 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:36.280 so they gave him radiation treatments and slowly but surely his health declined and we 488 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.480 lost track of him. But I later found out that he had passed away. 489 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.159 I can't really say why he passed away, but he did pass away, 490 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:51.719 and that the point at which he got the robotic surgery. From that 491 00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:57.840 point on, his health just declined afterwards. So's their advice for someone who 492 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:05.239 has prostate cancer, prostate disease, anybody who has broadstay cancer. You're listening 493 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.280 out there, don't hesitate to go to doctor lead him and because he has 494 00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:15.480 the treatments that takes care of it. He has a great staff of people 495 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:21.280 there. It's very comfortable to be there. It's not like, you know, 496 00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:29.320 you don't feel like there's a black cloud over you. It's very nice, 497 00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:35.840 very very comfortable. And like I said, the treatments are basically what 498 00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.159 I said. You go in, you get treated. You got a little 499 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:45.880 treatment for practically ten minutes under the machine, the radiation machine, and you 500 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:51.199 leave and that's it. You do whatever other you want we're doing before you 501 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.159 got there, you know, you just continue your life. There's no side 502 00:41:54.199 --> 00:42:00.360 effects. So right now it's almost twenty years later, are you still riding 503 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.559 your bike? Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, you know, well, 504 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:12.360 weather permitting, lighting. The lighting gets a little strange at this time of 505 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.920 the year because I like to go out early in the morning, but I 506 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:21.719 can't go out early. No, But but my biking is just just as 507 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:27.840 not as much as it was twenty years ago. But I definitely bicycle every 508 00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.800 day every day that I can do. You have any limitations or changing your 509 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.559 life from the definitely, no, no, a little bit to The only 510 00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:39.119 limitations is that I'm getting older and well that's a good thing. Yeah, 511 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:43.440 oh yeah, definitely yeah, And that maybe you have a girlfriend and you 512 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.159 have normal life and you do other things you want to do, right Oh 513 00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:54.360 yeah, yeah, that's yes. My got my crazy grandchildren that I sometimes 514 00:42:54.400 --> 00:43:00.920 I watch them sometimes they come here and uh yeah, I lead a normal 515 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:07.639 but you know, people that I didn't would not think know you're on the 516 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.880 radio no, you're on the radio. But they asked me. You know 517 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:15.760 I what I mentioned? Yeah, you know I was treated by doctor lead 518 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:21.760 Him for busse cancer. Oh he's on the radio, isn't he. I 519 00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.480 said, yeah, yeah, if you listen to him, If you listen 520 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:29.440 to the radio, if he ever mentions double O seven, that's me. 521 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:31.960 I tell him. Well, it's nice that you called today. We have 522 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.880 to go for to break for a minute. But you have any other advice 523 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:40.800 for listeners today? Yeah, I'm not really good. Don't hesitate if you 524 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:46.159 have any kind of cancer. It's I mean, I just happen to have 525 00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:52.519 prosty cancer. If you have any type of cancer, go to doctor lead 526 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.400 Him. I have one more question for you, do you you know you've 527 00:43:55.440 --> 00:44:00.280 known me for almost twenty years. Has anything ever happened between us in the 528 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.400 office that gives you any qualms or hesitations about your care or interaction? Oh 529 00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:08.599 no, not at all. No, You're you're a you're like a friend 530 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:13.679 to me, you know, I mean, you're my doctor, but you're 531 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:19.079 also Will Will We have a little friendly, little relationship going there, which 532 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.800 is nice, which is good. That's that's how I will prefer things. 533 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.800 Actually, all right, Well, God bless you, and God bless your 534 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.559 family, and I hope you lived at one hundred and twenty years old in 535 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.400 good great me too. Oh, God bless you. I'll be right back. 536 00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.079 Numbers mean much to me because of prostate cancer. I'm Johnny Bragg's The 537 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.960 number two from my stepfather who died of prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered 538 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:47.360 so much after prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen fifteen years since doctor Leederman's 539 00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:52.400 successful treatment of my prostate cancer. The number zero, which is my PSA 540 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:59.199 zero after doctor Leaderiman's successful prostate cancer treatment. What every man wants? The 541 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:02.719 numbers one, two, three, four important for every man with prostate cancer. 542 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:08.239 One getting the most successful treatment, two avoiding radical robotic surgery, three 543 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:15.320 keeping sexual functions, four maintaining urinary control. Call my doctor Liederman two and 544 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:20.760 two choices two and two choices to consider his prostate cancer treatment for you most 545 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:24.920 insurances, Medicaire and Medicaid accepted. Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth called 546 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:30.519 two and two choices for prostate cancer treatment. Called doctor Liederman two and two 547 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.559 choices. I'm glad I did. You'll be number one with doctor Liderman. 548 00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:38.039 It's doctor Liederman speaking with Lauren about lung cancer. You were seen by a 549 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:44.960 pulmonary doctor who was insistent that they open up your chest. Yes, absolutely, 550 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.039 and they told you to the lung surgeon and they were insistent on cutting 551 00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.760 on you right absolutely, and would not accept me hesitation if I didn't do 552 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.639 that. You're a nurse, you worked at some of the biggest hospitals and 553 00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.159 you just didn't want your lung on just opened up and you're lung thrown into 554 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:07.159 the garbage can, right the bucket. Why Because at the super duper prooper 555 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.800 I saw what happened, and what did you see? With doctor Liederman, 556 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.079 the team and treatment. It's perfect. You have the treatment and that cancer's 557 00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:19.519 gone away, right it has. What would you tell someone who's got cancer, 558 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:23.199 nake your first up doctor Liederman. For more information called doctor Leederman two 559 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:28.719 and two choices thirteen eighty four, Broadway had thirty eighth We accept most insurances, 560 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:32.840 Medicare, Medicaid called two and two choices for more information. Thousands treated 561 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:38.000 over decades. Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob Redstone 562 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:43.239 here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the wr Studios in the hearts of New York 563 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.559 City were just a few steps from the radio surgery in New York Cancer Treatment 564 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.360 Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the leading cancer expert, 565 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.519 treats prostate cancer not invasively. He was the first in New York with 566 00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:58.760 fractionated brain radio surgery, and he's the first in America and in the Western 567 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:02.679 Hemisphere with radiosurgery. You can also call doctor Liederman at two and two choices 568 00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:07.159 for a free informative booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back. 569 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:13.079 We are back, and I thank seven for confiding and informing all of 570 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.480 you about his experience and what's happened to him over twenty years. And he's 571 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:22.960 now cancer free, and we're grateful for his trust and really for his kindness 572 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:27.400 and calling. I want to talk about a woman who's eighty five years old. 573 00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.000 She's from Jamaica. She's a black woman. And I say that because 574 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:36.920 it's very rare to have skin cancer in black people. It's not unheard of. 575 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.320 Bob Marley, for example, had skin cancer to the melanoma of his 576 00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:47.199 toe that went to his brain and he died of that. So that's one 577 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:52.320 example of a melanoma. But this woman had a basal cell cancer right on 578 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:57.360 the bridge of her nose. She has a history of high blood pressure and 579 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.559 diabetes and thyroid disease. She had skin cancer of her arm also, that 580 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:06.360 was true with surgery. What was she do up to skin cancer on her 581 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:10.679 nose and she just did not want to have a part of her nose removed. 582 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.000 It was a base of cell cancer, It was fairly prominent, and 583 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:16.559 it was in a delicate position. It was the top part of the nose 584 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:22.360 on the left side, also near the tear duct. So surgery would have 585 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.159 been deforming and debilitating, because if a person loses her tear duct, then 586 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:31.960 there's no place for the tears to go easily readily as God designed our bodies, 587 00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:36.760 and so it would have been deforming and difficult. And said, she 588 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:40.360 chose treatment here. She came here and investigated treatment. She heard so much 589 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:45.800 about skin cancer treatment here and we treat many many people, thousands in fact, 590 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:52.000 over decades that she came and we talked about it, and she trusted 591 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:57.039 us and was treated just in a few treatments for her basal cell cancer on 592 00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:02.280 the bridge near the bridge of her nose. Her and now she is cancer 593 00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:06.840 free. She came for follow up. She's doing great. And this is 594 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:12.559 the work that we do every day. At thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in 595 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.960 thirty eighth Street in the heart of New York City. We're talking about a 596 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.719 woman who's forty six, so a very young woman. She's forty six, 597 00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.639 she works in the pharmacy. She's married, she has two children. She 598 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:27.239 came with her husband. She had bronchitis and then asked for a CT scan 599 00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:31.039 because she had bronchitis so much, and the child a nodule in along and 600 00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:35.880 then the scan was repeated it had grown. And then she was taken to 601 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.559 surgery and she had a PET scan a big one of the super duper big 602 00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:44.280 hospitals. She had surgery. She had surgery one of the big hospitals in 603 00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.360 the New York area, and she had a squamous cancer the lung. She 604 00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:52.280 had multiple lymphanodes that were positive for cancer. So they saw the nodule and 605 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:57.519 then they waited. They waited to work her up, and they waited to 606 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.360 treat her. And by the time the cancer traveled to the lymph nodes, 607 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:07.400 so she had an advanced cancer. And well, she came to us when 608 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:12.880 the cancer recurred after surgery. So what's so amazing is so many people think, 609 00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.119 oh, I'm going to have surgery, I'm going to cut it out, 610 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.199 and I'll be done with my problem. Well, no, this woman 611 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:23.000 had surgery and the cancer came back right at the same spot where the cancer 612 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:28.480 was at a time of surgery. So it makes you think almost that the 613 00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:32.239 surgeon can spread the cancer cells when they're cutting on it. It came back 614 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:38.360 right at the same spot. And she came to us years ago, and 615 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:44.079 we treated her years ago, and she's now in remission. We were able 616 00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:50.320 to treat the cancer when surgery failed for her squamous carcinoma of the lung. 617 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:54.039 She'd had surgery at one of the big hospitals in New York. The doctors 618 00:50:54.039 --> 00:51:00.239 had waited to check her out rather than to operate immediately. She was don't 619 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:05.920 have cancer, she had surgery, and now she's in remission. When surgery 620 00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:10.400 failed. She came here for a fresh second opinion, And many people come 621 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:15.239 for a fresh second opinion for newly diagnosed cancer, or like her, when 622 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:22.280 the other treatment standard radiation, surgery or chemo, doesn't work or isn't wanted 623 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.239 or isn't tolerated. In her case, it just didn't work, and she 624 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:30.800 came to us to try to give her a second chance when surgery failed. 625 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:35.119 And speaking about surgery failed, I want to talk about him mate, seventy 626 00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.599 two years old. He's single, and he has a cancer of the urrotor. 627 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:43.840 The urder is a tube from the kidney down to the bladder. So 628 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.360 somehow the kidney makes the urine. The urine has to flow down the urder 629 00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:52.519 to the bladder. Well, he developed a cancer of the urtor and he 630 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:57.840 went to one of the big hospitals in New York area. He had had 631 00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:05.360 chemotherapy and surgery. The surgery left positive margins, meaning the cancer was left 632 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:10.039 behind, so the chemo didn't work. The surgery didn't work. The cancer 633 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:15.880 was left behind right where it was before, in a way like that woman 634 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:20.599 who's cancer in the lung came back in the same spot. So sometimes it's 635 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:25.239 hard to explain to patients how surgery fails. So often we just talked about 636 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:30.920 a case where the surgery failed to the lung. Now here's a surgery failing 637 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.719 in the urder. The cancer came right back and it was invading into the 638 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.280 sois muscle. So the soest muscle is a muscle in the back of our 639 00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:45.119 abdomen helps us move our leg So this cancer was aggressive right in the same 640 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:51.400 area the cancer was left behind. He came to us for treatment and he 641 00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:55.159 was recently staged up and that area that we treated is still cancer free. 642 00:52:55.480 --> 00:53:01.079 And this is the work that we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway 643 00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:05.920 Broadway in thirty eighth Street in the heart of New York City. A man 644 00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.039 who comes to us with two squamous cancers on the hand on the right hand. 645 00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:13.320 He came to us years ago, seventy eight years old, born in 646 00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.559 New York City. He's widowed, he has two children, and he did 647 00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:20.639 not want to have a big part of his hand removed, and for that 648 00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.679 reason he came to us for skin cancer squamous carcnoma, two separate sites in 649 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:30.159 the hand. Both treated, both in remission, doing well, no cutting, 650 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:34.679 no bleeding. And we'll talk about a man who sixty six years old 651 00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:38.360 came to us many years ago with a Gleason nine cancer, a very aggressive 652 00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:44.199 cancer, and he chose our treatment because he knows with surgery the failure rate 653 00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.159 is high with surgery and the complication is high. He wanted to keep his 654 00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:52.039 sexual life in urinary life, and now years later his PSA zero. He's 655 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:57.840 in remission. This is the work that we do every day at thirteen eighty 656 00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:00.519 four Broadway. We have lots of information to send you. It's best to 657 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:05.800 call us two and two choices. My name is doctor Liederman. God bless 658 00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:12.679 you and thank you. Hope to talk to you soon. Thanks for tuning 659 00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.480 in to the Radio Surgery Hour with doctor Gil Riderman and myself. If you 660 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:21.320 have questions before next week's show or want a free informative booklet and DVD, 661 00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:25.400 just contact doctor Liderman at two one two choices. That's two one two two 662 00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:32.800 four six four two three seven. That's two one two two four six four 663 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:52.719 two three seven. For cancer treatment, most prefer effective, non invasive, 664 00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:57.400 well tolerated, outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery pioneer's goal 665 00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.360 too. Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York, First 666 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:06.280 for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liederman hits your cancer with no cutting, 667 00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:10.519 no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades of experience with primary and metastatic large or 668 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:15.480 small cancers from head to toe cancer treatment with possibly a second chance for you. 669 00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:20.880 Meet doctor Leiderman to hit the cancer. He's New York's only Harvard trained 670 00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:24.719 Triple Board certified Radiation oncologist. Call two one two choices, two one two 671 00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:30.000 choices to meet doctor Liderman for a fresh second opinion. Most insurances Medicare, 672 00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:36.519 Medicaid accepted. 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