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Where you are listening from is seven
pm work suffric in Time. My name

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is kalu Aja and it's on the
episode of Xmas Twitter spaces with me.

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We're talking money, the economy and
of course personal finance and as usual,

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want to make it personal to you. How do the economic topics that has

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happened affect you personally? This week
we've got special guests in the house.

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Effects just conclude a code cash Crop
four point zero Hackerton And if you've been

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following, we do a lot of
retweets on that and what it is really

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is we're trying to bring together three
those three elements agriculture of course, fintech

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and finance. We're trying to bring
it together and see how we can scale

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right, how we can scale a
greg bring the young into agree, bring

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tech into agreg and then of course
have not just this planting and sowing,

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but they behind the scenes. How
can we make farmers more productive? How

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can we making investors come into that
space, How can we increase yields?

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How can we know how this interplay
and increase productivity, improve employment and all

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those positive outcomes. That's what basically
CECC code Cash Club Hackton four points where

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it's all about. So today I've
got special guests. I see Michael here.

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Already we've had the hackaton, We've
had winners. Someone went to me

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about ten thousand dollars. Only here
who it is, And I don't know

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how they came about their idea and
how they believe that idea is going to

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be essentially move the needle in terms
of agricultural productivity and yields. So Michael,

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how you doing. You want to
go about and on the mute brief

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intro, tell us about yourself and
they will get down to away. Good

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evening, guys. My name is
Michael Navel. I'm a software developer from

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Kenya. I'm currently in my fourth
year of academics in the University Terminal Zoo,

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Kenya, University of Melicults and Technology, pursuing Telecommunication engineering, a software

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developing the founder of a startup Collution
will speak more about it, but in

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a natural in say, is a
comprehensive solution for small holder farmers. Provide

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farmers with information on the right crops
to grow in their locations. Also provide

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them with adequate links to people who
are selling approved input supplies, aggrements,

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plan and digitizing the aggravates industry in
Kenya and in Africa, persons are linked

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it directly to the market, so
ensuring that maybe with a farmer every step

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of the journey. So that's I'm
saying a natural aspeth and see HD doesn't

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perhaps right? Yes, yes,
yes, just say that's that's only forestallingly

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foresilla. Are you saying you in
the first year? Did I hear you

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say that? No? No,
fact, I'm going my fourth year.

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I'm going to give me fortirsty which
one. Yes, it's called nat International

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University of Ariculs and interesting, Well, welcome to Nigeria in quote right,

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So you think we're gonna come back
to you and talking in depth about your

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your presentation on how you felt what
you're doing is gonna move that middle.

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I've got your cougle here, your
cogle hide. I'm good to how you

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doing? Everyone hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Go ahead.

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I mean you're going to meet up
with from Elvis and I thank the

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unisity and we had to have the
culture innovations and how we can sustain economic

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and development to what we have pat
this evening okay, yeah, to go

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to some I'm gonna do you take
time and walk on the audio. I

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think you're bringing out your connection or
the audio work on it. I'm don't.

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I'm gonna speak to Michael and I'm
gonna come back real quickly. You

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are just walking again back in.
That's fine, yeah, Michael. Let

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me come back to you. Michael, give me just give me an idea.

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How do you hear about the cold
crash crop? And what did you

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do this? Did you do your
presentation because of the competition or something you

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already had going and this was just
the competition allowed to showcase it, and

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so we had to do We had
started, we had competed in a few

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competitions spread to podcast crop around three
or four. We had dot a couple

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a goal, but not to the
skill that is effects could cash crop four

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point two. So how I came
to know about cold cash crop is one

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of our sponsors is called Marina School. That's also a school where I've done

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my SELFT engineering at. It's our
soft engineering school here. So they sent

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me the application for cold cash crop
was very very intensive, I must say,

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but it was very interesting. I
made the application and you know a

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few weeks later I got a call
from Natasha who is Allison here in Kenya

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that have been selected to participate in
the competition? And how was it you

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presented and called you that's it?
Yeah, I am so once I was

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called actually couldn't managed to go for
the first day there or some demonstrations center

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in a ruby, So I actually
just went for the second day and the

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ablish act that only the only four
of us who are selected to participate in

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the competition, not only in k
and the heart of Thoms usually find you

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know, a hundred people there at
least time all was elected. So my

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hogs are you know? Have so
it was it was so much, so

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so much easier to say than what
had experience before. For sure in terms

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of the numbers of competition. To
tell me about your solution? What is

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it? A into? You said
you're doing the right crops to grow?

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How does it work? Is it
an if I'm a farmer in my locality?

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Is it an I go online,
I can talk my GPS, it

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will tell me what to grow.
Tell me a probout how a normal farmer

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would use what you what you presented, okay, so hard farmer will approach

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this system that you have. Is
that you come onto the platform that you

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have. You select the location that
you're in, the exact location that you're

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in. Then we'll give you recombinations
of the best crops that will in that

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location. We're hoping to provide the
family with at least three recombinations that they

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can trust from. So you have, for example, you can have banana's

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service and beans. You also given
not simate costs of productions for hits of

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this, so depending on your bad
that you can know which crops is the

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best to go with first. After
that, yes, you're go on come.

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So after that you added to a
list of selected crops. Then you

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cannot enter deep into it. So
for example, if you decide to learn

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more about me is you can get
this information in are currently in so Helium

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in English. But one thing I
learned from Cold Cash crop is that there's

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so many poles that you know can
listen to this native language, is that

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they cannot really read them. So
you need to make sure these things can

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be orderly influenced to our farmers say, you know, they can listen to

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all this information instead of just reading
it all. But currently we just have

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a system where you can be able
to translate to get this information either in

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English or so or Heali. They
can also download it as a PDF.

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Then now yeah, then I've broken
it down into steps. So list Upon

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is plant planting, so in planting
and giving them information on how to best

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planting plant, giving them the best
ways to prepare their land, the best

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sites to select. After that,
they're giving them access to financial They're giving

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them access to Aggravates for selling through
a platform. This is one of the

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ways that will be making money.
Aggravates will be paying a subscription fee to

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be another system. If currently partner
with a company h Can called pig paid

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the laws YouTube transacts freeing in currency
so you can be able to transact in

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Nigeria and era Can and Shieldings can
be able to transact their card so you

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can buy directly from the aggravates and
they can be pro directly to your farm.

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After that, the firm is given
enough marketing intelligence when as the Nigeria

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realized, they're also facing a problem
with your currency abilities at an all time

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law Also, occurrency is very very
low as you speaking, so you know

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today something may be going for one
hundred, two hundred, the next day

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it's three hundred. So we're giving
the former enough market intelligence to know what

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exactly which point to press the goods
that after a feeling them directly to the

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market, so they our platform,
American post their goods and any commercial Platformeric

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and ourselves as a prisoner. It
tells me when the process are high,

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you say exactly, yeah, yeah, and this is only for Kenny and

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like I know, he says in
English and maze, but can of Nigeria

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download this and us it and say
happier state or it's only kennya. Well,

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the mains of problem will definitely face
is collecting this data, but we

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plan on using letters for this.
So currently in can you have color and

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CALP who have this data breading so
when the counts and scale will definitely look

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at regulators. So we also ensure
that we're not giving a former UNI information

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that we've just pulled on to think
here, so that would be a challenge,

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but it's also an opportunity for us
to to be able to kind of

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collaborate with this invest doesn't regulators in
this sandal and both times for that intro

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and about what the app does and
in generalities, we are let me have

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that Ilieud did right Iliudro roo get. Yes, this is a little how

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are you doing? So welcome to
this is with me Carlo Aga. I'm

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just asking about everybody. Yeah,
I introduce yourself, tells about your app

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and if you don't know, guys
are speaking to the three winners. I

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don't know if you there are three
winners? Who who was the ultimate winner?

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Who want the main prize? How
was it? How was it was

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in Michael, what's your couple?
Your couple? It was a prize winner?

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Then we have Michael and Luda.
We're all finals at the countries.

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We're just talking to you guys so
we can learn how you guys approach this

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possibly then see how we can sort
of you know, use or copy or

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you know, interpret what you guys
are saying. The person will be do

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back here. So look quite introduced
yourself and just tell us about your experience

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and what you're presented at the Cultash
group from point zero by Effex Okay,

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thank you very much, Klou.
My name is Ludot and I'm the founder

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of Silo Africa, where we transform
brain storage in Africa using digitized silos.

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Basically, we find that farmers in
Africa and especially Kenya where we found me,

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which is our main staple group.
We experience a lot of losses as

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a result of the post salvist issues. One of them could be the afflatoxin

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poisoning. Secondary would be infestation from
the weavils the past and also the rodents.

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So what we've come up with that
is a solution that is tamperproo is

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actually bullet proof. We are providing
these farmers with We are providing these farmers

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with our silo, which is digitized. We've been at a date with the

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post service loss detection device that in
the event of any infestation, the farmer

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can be notified and the farmer can
be able to place the immediate intervention to

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prevent loss of grain. Interesting,
is this like a physical silo? You

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guys? What has tell me about? What is it a silo in my

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families? What do I do I
go to? You tell me about it?

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Okay, Basically, you're a farmer. You're stationed in your farm.

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So our solution is own family are
coming to your farm where you're located,

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and we are giving you We've designed
a metallic silo which is tamper proof and

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the rodents cannot cannot infest these silos, and what we've gone ahead is to

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put this device where which we're embedding
it inside the silo and it is able

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to check the environment of the silos
so that in the event of any infestation,

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the farmer is notified. So the
farmer is metallic in nature. We

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are using aluminium to fabricate the silos
and we could do it on site where

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the farmer is, or we could
fabricate it in our location, our site

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location and then transport it to the
farmer. So basically the farmer, depending

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on the carry the amount of produce
the farmer has during that year, whether

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it's twenty bugs for an aca,
of farmers bring an acre to ten birds.

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Basically are targeting the small, older
farmer, this one who cannot be

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able to tack the produced maybe to
a warehouse for selfe storage. And yeah,

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maybe because of the high cost of
transportation, the requirements maybe by the

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government in terms of the moisture levels
and all that, and we are providing

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this solution to them. They're able
to store the grains safely and it doesn't

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you don't use any chemicals during storage
and you can store them or the grains

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up to six years without any infestation
or any changes to the quality of the

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grains. What about the humidity,
Like I know that's a problem with drying

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out the base. So situda or
its just store as you put it in

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us. What you get is that
before you stow it, you there's a

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certain requirement you have to meet.
The mesture levels have to be below fourteen

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percent so that you stow it safely, so that we you don't put an

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environmentally exampler toxin or any more to
grow. So we first dry it,

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we ensure that the firmer drives it
well and in the processes that in the

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future, in the near future,
we are looking into providing mobile mobile drying

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facilities for these farmers so that we
ensure that the grains that are being kept

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inside the sign of First of all
the beds they required the require patrics in

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terms of the right temperature, the
right moisture levels, the right CE or

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two levels, so that when and
put in the in the silo, Yeah,

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it is well and safe. And
this is only for green Can I

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like store like cocoa or can I
stall mango? It's only for grain basicallyforna

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it's green, it's great. Any
grain any any what do you call them?

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These land tales at all? That
gotcha? Gotcha? Okay, So

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there's some place if I go to
Yahoo right just to experience about the cash

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crop four point zero? How do
you know about it? How to join?

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What? No? Just give me
your brief you know on party on

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that elliot Okay, I joined.
Actually saw these the advert for FX good

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cash crop on LinkedIn on LinkedIn,
but be a day before that a friend

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of mine who is also in the
Innovation Spencer and the architect Innovation Spencer also

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sent me that advert and I was
able to place that application and lucky we

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were shortlisted might Amos shortlisted from Saulo
Africa and we went to present at Marina

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School. It was before that child
there's our training a day where we were

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going we're going through some trainings and
it was it was really an eye open

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up for us, simply because you
have this big solution, you're wondering how

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you're going to take it to market
and it was really don't for us.

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And I looked out, betters,
if you're thinking where to start talk to

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effects the cat the called cash crop
is one place a good place to network

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understanding all the nots and bolts of
what you want to do from ideas to

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exactly. And when we were shortlisted
as a finalist with Michael to go to

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Nigeria, we were really excited.
It was one of a kind of an

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opportunity. Yeah, very very excited, one as happy excitement. You wanted

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to come and see Legos? Is
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yes. We've never been to West
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pain Nigeria. We didn't know how
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my brother, I'm gonna talk about
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Nigeria. What the food you at
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Right, Michael has dropped off.
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to ask him this experience. So
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me not to hop back in once
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come back to Michael, Michael,
give or take right? What was your

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experience like? What was it one
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I've got your co back and I'm
gonna put your cobo, your cooka,

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your company. Can hear me?
You? Can you hear me? Now?

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Can you speak it's just going to
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back to my mightel worst right,
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To you, what was the key
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of this code crash Cup experience?
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what would you advise someone is listening
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and I have an idea. What
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learned that you like to know to
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I should incorporate in my page,
or how I operationalize my idea. I'm

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also gonna say the same question,
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so much. I think what I
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everyone has ideas, but it stakes
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those ideas into businesses. That's what
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they they end at the addition stage. You you know, you don't push

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just on the market custima. I
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all right way to say. But
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go to have to go to your
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to impact small older farmers have to
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than the top three problems they're facing. If I'm solving a problem that it's

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outside the problems they mentioned, there
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system or that application. So that's
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that I have to build for the
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So test the market talked to the
market is how I'm here? You say

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what the customers wants? Go I
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that's exactly a question for you.
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think that solutions are created and then
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then they get a solution. So
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used a tooth project was created,
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or now we all use it.
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Do you think people wanted what you
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for the make me know what's what
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the market wanted? Or you have
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of course markets will follow you.
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like to know what the soil is
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that information of ride. What do
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building a small lymppy first just for
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the idea. So you had first
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something that other people think is an
idea that gold work. But definitely point

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go to the market. You need
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if they really care what were they
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the as well? Do they care
about the rainfall? Protect? And then

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teach our up or our system to
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Understand, So your couplem comes to
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because you are in and how I
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solution that you presented, why you
think it was the joice founded, you

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know, like number one percent?
Just give us an idea. Then we

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can then catch you back up with
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Can could you win everyone you could
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think the basic thing we do at
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nalergy. Right we realize that so
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they don't know exactly what it takes
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now, internet is one firm show
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now? So now when this stay
happened, how do we expect our farmers

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to them? Right? So for
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a firmer where we were to the
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a very bad And there they are
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firms and we talk to firmers about
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you know we are met with radio
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believe that if we can give you
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inputs, they can be able to
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Take take about exampl Right now a
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a production he can do right there. There is a limit to our mogic

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and work bad day, there's a
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a way we motor firmer from our
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that, want to make sure where
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where we mechanization. And then the
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believe that every solution can be sold
using technology. That is true, but

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your acting is if you don't know
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in the solution, there's no way
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think from my friends or point of
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and application tech is meant to scale
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the problem. You must not the
solution that work. Then it's only when

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you have tested these hypothensis and get
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okay, how do I scale it
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from one thousand to one meal users
using technology? But we believe that we

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can sit down behind our computer,
roll up anub and you know, take

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it to the firmers and like Okay, start using it, but how do

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you want to do that? There's
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is they are a famers that have
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dreadful most of them, they still
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these kind of farmers, if if
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we need to do something right,
something differently right. Were not come into

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the field and said we have a
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the perspective of the beginning, like
let's talk up from the foundation and part

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of it. What are you doing
wrong? What are you doing right?

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And why is this not working?
The how cap come into you put that

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only when we the most treated that
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not talking how do we scale it? So our job at FANCI is Morphi

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consultant. Of course we focus on
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millions, right, and we believe
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from points one to point ten,
then they're able to provide for the generations

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or the country. But then the
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of news. Many youth want to
graduate and you know see them being computers

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and press codes and all of them. The reason why it's so, it's

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because it's easy to do that.
You see them behind the cities, you're

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not doing your work the point of
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okay, going into agriculture is exhaustive. We have to go compulas some

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of that. But what if there's
a will can change the narrative. What

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if there's a will can tell you
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don't know me. You have to
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You can't do that, even an
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perspective of agriculture. When you graduate, you don't want to come back to

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the feet. But there's a way
we can do it. We can,

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you know, we can solve that
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that we systematically introduce students to agriculture. First, we guard these farmers into

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a group of closters, each each
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do things together. You know,
no matter how we we say it,

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people like it. When you see
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my relate the skin I can't remember
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have ten farmers and each seat one
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they are family. You know.
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in another firm, and they're able
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person who working in you know,
individual firm for ten days because the results

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you get is not tending, it's
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and you know, the interaction this
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introduce this scamp system, amount of
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what, so there's information sharing.
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And so what we do is after
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computive. Then we take and annoy
it's a graduate from a Greek or a

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nights to them from my Greek.
We trained them for like three months and

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we introduce them to this former.
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serve to guide these formers. Of
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so they collect information writer than dos
and they know what to do. If

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they hit a point where they don't
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how to con so we think just
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presents so we can follow what do
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sorry presently. Now what we have
now is the kind of data is that

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contain better information best farming practices.
So and those best farming practices itself to

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farm a true I interactive voice systems. We don't want to use us as

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as we know as really work.
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with the basics small food the future
of food, they ractually calling to get

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information so they could we could follow
up on them. We have a well

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targeted marching learning behind it that follow
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going systems and we use guiding them
as the counselors. We're able to monitor

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them, may move them from one
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also providing them between sources like fertilizers
are inputs and all of that. So

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at the end of the day we
can track how much they have done better

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and want to move. So and
they offered the multiple languages, each one

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of them specific to the farmers languages, so local quick ship. I was

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a farmer in Abyan, not to
the far farm can how will this work?

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And I will go to the side
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server will give me a use that
have worked? Again what to use?

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So the first move is with our
officers. So if you farmers that's farming

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cast Ambias States, you are going
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family in Abia States. So you
quickly go to a little training about what

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we do and our solution here because
right now you've already been contines. Our

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solution can help you. So having
joined that close groups, the next thing

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is who give you the mobile where
rolling into the systems where you get a

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personalized systems so if at any point
in the movement you needed some help,

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you can just call him. And
it's not like we have to be there

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at one side. We've set up
a system that so to maintain the solution

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so that it's use your key word
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as a family to need kind of
tubers and all of that. So how

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do you get the best one because
now we've just told you that the one

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you're using those or now we don't
really want to plan tomorrow. Are you

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getting me? Yes? So this
this looks like lockdop. Now are you

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saying that you have agents or is
an a that's basically tracking? Is the

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track me where you support human like
both personalize human in an AI. So

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the first day I used to change
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a personalize with sugar. But the
base of it, though is detained somebody

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behind you because I do the advisory
services. Okay, that works on me.

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From now, I will just quickly
get farmer I have just in case

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farmer a Calaby is my good friend, just to make him have an ink

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before we go on, and we
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I'm going to come back to Michael
Elude and your coupo. But farmers,

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do you have a comment to make
on Watch you pet? So far

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we're talking about the code crash propoint
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finance fintech agriculture within that intermix where
we're bringing the solutions from the I to

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the farms to increase yields and all
that. From my point, you don't

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have any comments or you want to
go ahead? Yeah, yeah, thanks,

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thanks so much. Call you.
First of all, let me appreciate

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the young amazing men, young people
have done an amazing world in beauty.

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The solution to serve as an enabler
for the agglic sector. You know.

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My passion over the years, for
two decades is building technology solutions that would

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help add value to the ADWIC sector. And I've listened to all of them,

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and one thing I always say is
this, if you're a beaulting a

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solution to solve problems within the ecosystem, you mustn't show that exactly solving the

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real problems. I was chatting with
a young gentleman sometimes, like I said,

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look today we have one I s
in Google Store, play Book play

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Store that we have a low ecntual
solutions developed. But is unfortunate that in

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then Injuriant set, then Endurian factor, it's still very very difficult for a

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small order farmer to integrate properly into
these solutions. Not that they're not there,

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it's existed. But how do we
begin to educate us world the farmers

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to integrate properly on how these technology
solutions will solve their problems, you know?

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And it's simple. We must start
within a community, within our local

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governments, within groups farmers group,
our stations, clubs or you know,

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trade unions that around us. Let
them know what we're doing on this technology,

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you know, on how it affects
farmers and how this joy can solve

407
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problems affect their farmers. A typical
example of what I did. We're working

408
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on something right now with the particularistic
governments and if the farmers retister book,

409
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.880
the state does not have a collective
data for their farmers across the entire local

410
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.720
governments, and it's difficult for government
to make decisions if you don't have data.

411
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So the first thing we did was
to create a after it did a

412
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register, Well, farmers will have
you know, access to these data and

413
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help government or let's say government to
make improvi decitions. So I want to

414
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say, it's fantastic. I love
if what effects has done in being bringing

415
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these younger generations together and building solutions
to drive their cultural set or fantastic very

416
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.759
present effects. So thanks time,
Thanks mother. Do you just get the

417
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.039
temp party contribution of what I will
see, because I'm really impressed again by

418
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the age and the solutions that have
been presented, and I can see that

419
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.279
I can use all three. I'm
not a farmer, but I can use

420
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.839
my curls. I can use alot, I can use their Google solution.

421
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.759
And this is why I like it. It's not some thing that I have

422
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:45.680
to be a PhD or a large
farmer. I actually tomorrow use this solution

423
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.039
that they have presented. They had
the code crash Club tomorrow. I can

424
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.400
emplace it tomorrow and I start to
use it. Let me come back to

425
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.200
Avia. Just in terms of the
pitch, right, I did ask Michael

426
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.480
the same question, what do you
think you took out of that pitch?

427
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.759
Like if you had to do advise
maybe your friends back home, you can

428
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.200
go for a page maternal at a
business plan. It doesn't be for the

429
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:12.240
culturable. What are the key elements
you go from? You know, from

430
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.880
with the communist that you find that
effect that you wouldn't like to tast out

431
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.079
first longs to folks that you want
to like. This is how you should

432
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.960
do it. This is the key
thing you should touch on when a pitch

433
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:29.599
god itself. Okay, thank you
very much. Can The biggest takeaway in

434
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:35.119
the Trainings and the Cold Cash Cropper
was that your problem has really true.

435
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.160
You have to really identify the problem
and justify the problems that you're trying to

436
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:43.759
solve because if you're not in touch
with the small holder farmers on the ground,

437
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:49.920
looking at their problems, trying to
devise ways to understand it because most

438
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.839
most of the time we normally rush
to coming up with a solution, but

439
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:59.200
you haven't really gone deeper. They'll
deeper into understanding the problems that the small

440
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.440
holder farmers are are going through.
And as a Cello Africa, these are

441
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the things that we that we normally
experience as farmers. Ourselves, our maize

442
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.480
or brains are normally affected by a
flat boxing. They are affected by the

443
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.199
wives are affected by the rodents,
and we lose for every twenty birds,

444
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:21.920
we lose five pads. And that
one we've experienced it from one firmer to

445
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:28.039
another that we've spoken to, and
from these trainings from the cold Cash Growth

446
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.840
really came to understand that we really
have to understand the problems that we're trying

447
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:37.079
to solve. Now, when you're
going back to the solution, you don't

448
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:45.920
you have to take an expanse expansionist
kind of strategy. Don't come don't come

449
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:50.480
up with one solution and say that
that one will be the solution to your

450
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.639
problem. You have to constantly italiate. You're going to the firmer speaking to

451
00:34:53.760 --> 00:35:00.119
them, coming back italating. Then
your solution will be able to at just

452
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:06.039
the problem in particular. And secondly, you as an innovator, you're not

453
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:14.480
only innovating in terms of technology,
because the solution has to be it has

454
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:19.400
to be innovative. And thirdly,
the business model that you're taking that you're

455
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.719
willing to use to approach the firm
and also hit the market, it has

456
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.880
to be innovative. Like with Silo
Africa, we realize, yes, the

457
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.880
silos are it is the best solution
in the market. It is the best

458
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.480
solution to the firm. But is
it affordable to them? That is one

459
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.599
question we asked ourselves and realize,
no, it's not affordable to them because

460
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:43.039
of the high initial course. So
we had to go back an innovator again,

461
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.320
what is the right financial model for
us as Silo Africa. So we

462
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.440
came up with the pay as you
go model where we now have to source

463
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.280
for funds our own funds that we're
both strapping and thus that we are looking

464
00:35:53.320 --> 00:36:00.199
also from other financial organizations to be
able to find this pay as you go

465
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:05.400
where you fabricate the silos, take
it to the farmer and then they're able

466
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.599
to pay in installments and that could
they're able to pay maybe in two three

467
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:14.800
seasons or maybe one season because for
the five bags that they're losing, that

468
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.320
is able to cater for the cost
of the silo and that silo goes.

469
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Is that the lifespan is around even
twenty years. So we have to constantly

470
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:27.719
innovate not just the problem, not
just the solution, but also the business

471
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:31.079
models that try using. I like
I like the fact that you keep out

472
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:37.360
the solution. The market spoke to
you, You went back, fine tune

473
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.079
I either pay pay as you go. You know they can afford the capital

474
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:44.679
cost initial you went back and did
a rental cannot break. But I like

475
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:49.519
that talking to the market and recheck
it. I really like a lot of

476
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.199
thighs for sharing that. Also you
could the same question, what would you

477
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:58.320
think your experiences like martaining the cold
classroom? What did you get from there?

478
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.519
I know you have the text side
a bit, you have to go

479
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.960
to the market, but what the
effects really give to you When you were

480
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.159
doing network and I think I saw
your fade, your own your only because

481
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.639
I saw when you presents and all
that I was able to watch it,

482
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.280
But what does did you get from
that experience? Like like soone to share,

483
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:22.400
thank you very much. If there's
nothing again from effects is the importance

484
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:28.079
of you know, speaking with farmers. When I came into the POS,

485
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.880
my intention was to design and app
and us as the internets. However,

486
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:37.960
after observing and taking some classes from
the especially from the effects of Commodity X

487
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:45.360
and the effects it repuilt, so
I realized that even though effects seems to

488
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.880
work from the technical side perspectively,
but the main job was done in the

489
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.880
background, which we do really see. So there is the people's or the

490
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:57.559
feet of these as and all that
were constantly you know, engaging with famers

491
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.039
physically to make sure because in and
you have, like I say, physical

492
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:05.360
can get my really matters based on
our cultures and who we have become.

493
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.119
So we cannot just say okay,
this is what it wants. What we

494
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:14.320
get to help understanding problems that exist
and secondly the the need for prove.

495
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:16.679
We want to be able to prove
to them that okay, we're not just

496
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:22.000
saying it or can the most thread
liked work. So after it is an

497
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.239
intin class we have to go back
to the our design and said, okay,

498
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:29.480
we cannot just give from my USC
they're not going to use it.

499
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:34.239
However, we notice that from every
farmer IMD which are from I can make

500
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.840
the goal. You could receive a
coal harbor. We fly to get Ibero

501
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.559
solutions so that we can we get
this fromizing Highberal instead of the us AD.

502
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.719
Right, those are the first thing. Then it's accounting about. It

503
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.360
is that we need to be able
to measure skill. We need to be

504
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.559
able to measure results effects have been
doing this way done so at any program

505
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:58.079
they like, they always have in
these statistics, the analytics and everything,

506
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.920
so you know what is working and
you can iterate further. So mostly you

507
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:06.559
have to be able to measure disources
manual. You have to talk to the

508
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.119
people. We have to engage with
them and show the communities. So our

509
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:14.760
community a god was physically from me
things. I think that get the idea

510
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.159
for because we know we can your
see down and reader tradition. We have

511
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.840
to integrate. We have to bring
this from our good. We have to

512
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:24.119
have community. We have to keep
engaging and from that with and get sustainable

513
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:30.480
that that moves further. Loot that
look that I'm here, that back and

514
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:34.079
forth the you know of constantly go
back to the market to refine we can

515
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.159
have a solution. I think it's
the best. We have to keep all

516
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.400
refining our solutions to bring it to
the market where the market that laffers accepted.

517
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:43.039
Let's get a second high guy to
speak if I come out with your

518
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:49.760
coble Michael and an aloo, the
guys from the Code Crash club for pointzero

519
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.199
Hackton. Let me get Hardy here
at Hardy. I've got you here at

520
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.599
Hardy as hiding saying, listen to
us, propertible, what's your take on?

521
00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:05.159
What about Teddy Tardi going one,
Tardi going Edwin? Mister Edwin hiding,

522
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:09.559
Sir, I knew you're coming all
the way from Switzerlander believe Taddy mister

523
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:14.320
Edwin. Yeah, I can hear
you. Hello, Hello, friends,

524
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:20.320
Hello, everybody ever come. Yeah. I think I was speaking to the

525
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:25.320
guys fanelists that the four point zero
hacked on talking about how we're killing acting

526
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:29.360
models across Africa. And I don't
know when you joined, but we're talking

527
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.960
to some really bright guys that had
speaking. I watch your take. Yeah,

528
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:38.119
I'm happy to join in and anyway, just a little bit of my

529
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:46.599
background. I work for more than
three years with Swiss agricultural sector, so

530
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:52.440
we build a high tech solution for
the corporative. So I find it very

531
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:59.679
interesting that Young was taking the effort
to build a digital solution. So I

532
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:04.360
just need to give some share some
of my experience working with Swiss and the

533
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:10.440
cultural sector. So the the name
of the industry is called Finnacle. They

534
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:19.079
are closed to modern five. Even
though about agricultural sector from make production to

535
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.400
maize a different kind of productions.
So the the what is the main driving

536
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:30.199
force for Swiss finals? From my
experience, the most important thing is corporative.

537
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:37.440
So the biggest driving force is the
corporative society. So the industry we

538
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:43.199
work for is a corporative. So
it's not the veriest not for profit organization.

539
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.960
So it's a very big, powerful
corporative. So what had what did

540
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:52.599
they do? Now? If you
look at the life cycle of fame and

541
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.519
fam, I'm talking about not only
honorary five. I mean I'm talking about

542
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:02.480
about portray, I'm talking about how
reality. So all those processes are integrated.

543
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:08.840
So apps is a good thing,
but behind the scene, there's a

544
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:15.239
large fire away a lot of processes, business developers, researcher as, research

545
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:21.079
institute, farmers. So let me
let me just use this simple case study

546
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.039
how it goes, so that maybe
I can share some of your ideas.

547
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:32.480
A Swiss farm, a Swiss farmer
every season they get from the society what

548
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.079
they have to plant. If you're
planting, this is in necessity might be

549
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:45.079
planting put it now. The institute
sometimes they can do through the system requests

550
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:51.960
for soil sampling. So the organization
they decorporated, we send researchers to the

551
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:57.559
farm and then they would check the
exampling of the soil and then they can

552
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:01.559
deter me the kind of fatalize that
they need to use for the seasoned farm

553
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:07.159
and whether the land would be because
you can fund every year, there's some

554
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:15.960
they do crop rotations, some of
lenus in securities coop so and then when

555
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:21.119
they start farming, the corporative also
provide most of the tractors, the technologies

556
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.119
they use for five with the machines, so they don't even buy them.

557
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:29.599
Most of them they run from the
communities. And now when they are harvesting

558
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:35.280
time, they say community will provide
them those tructors and the trusting thing comes

559
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:39.119
in when they are harvesting. They
have to sell most of their products also

560
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.639
to the community, to the corporative
society who we also sell it to a

561
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:47.480
post of the big warehouse, and
sometimes they combine the the product add for

562
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:52.199
exports or for locus, so they
know what trust itself to the today seller

563
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.159
market price or is it like a
guaranteed government price to you to have a

564
00:43:55.719 --> 00:44:02.119
size and that look their communities.
So the community, corporative community decide they

565
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:07.480
com produce, society decide the price
so they can have Because every year most

566
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.519
of the farmers get the opportus aware
they have to produce to avoid the production

567
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:19.480
or less production, so they have
the government to through the budget stipulate what

568
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.679
amount of maybe for example NUCs rice
that we have to import and how much

569
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:30.199
rice we have to produce locally,
so they jungle with these figures and then

570
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:31.800
they share with the farmers. Okay
in a back looking you have to produce

571
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:36.800
only fifty thous this year, we're
expecting maybe pomper have less, we have

572
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.679
to import, so they kind of
less player and not the government to regulate

573
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:45.239
or control the famine industry, so
we do not have overpopulation, over production

574
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.199
or less production. So to get
it right in nature, I think they're

575
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.800
doing the writing. So one I'm
trying to say is that not only to

576
00:44:54.039 --> 00:45:00.599
take the behind They say it's a
lot far will lot of complicated p finding

577
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.000
process. I can tell you from
my experience we have a system. We

578
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:08.760
are by the farmer at less people
got another cycle. I think good points

579
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:14.679
You've made an if you can frown
cycle, Okay, let round up.

580
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.559
So the few points I want to
share is the one is cooperative society is

581
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:23.000
very important. Two is, like
the farmersticus say about all science, talking

582
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.000
with the farmers. Find out where
their problem is before you move to tech.

583
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.320
So you have to get the farmers. And then three is I don't

584
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:35.880
know how far There's a Swiss company
in Cando set so I don't know how

585
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.920
much how involved Singeenta is. Most
of them are taking industry, so they

586
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:43.920
are very flexible. You can reach
them if if any of you need help.

587
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.000
I can contact them because I have
contact with the head office in Switzerland,

588
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:51.199
so if any tech industry want to
have a collaboration with them, I

589
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.159
can help out with that to work. You see, so they have when

590
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.519
they called higher crofts. They are
not genetically with the flying that they are

591
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:04.639
crofts that helps produced high if you
feel in fact. So I'm here just

592
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:10.559
to see how I can thank you
for so much for that, and I

593
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:14.639
do up shore to the insight.
Coming from a tech party, you cannot

594
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:20.079
the experience in Switzerland how they are
connecting not just the tech finance, also

595
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:24.119
with the off taker at the corporated. Very very important point. I especially

596
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.920
like what a text has done.
And this is the first one. I

597
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.519
have no conversation of linkin thin tech
and Agrik and I think this is young

598
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:36.880
guys avolution, that it's not just
a talk, but it's at least meet

599
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:38.400
behind it. Let me ask you
guys like this this question right on,

600
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:45.960
what would you say has been the
main contribution? This is for Michael of

601
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:50.159
course Ya Cobo, I don't see
earlier. I think it has dropped up

602
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.960
Michael Lecubo. What would this have
been the main contribution of effects to scaling

603
00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:00.239
your your solutions? Michael have mentioned
that you you have gone for previous Hecaton's

604
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:05.719
in Kenya. In terms of this
Hacoton, what you say is the main

605
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:12.719
contribution of scaling these solutions that you
have now generated. How would you rate

606
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:17.559
the what would you like to see
happen? Go ahead? So well,

607
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.400
first of all, I'd really love
to thank ex for the competition we had

608
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:27.320
in kinds of the idea that we
had prayer to when we're pitching or being

609
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:31.519
given h these talks on how to
best pitch ideas, how to best present

610
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:36.800
to ideas and when it comes to
the main competition that was in Nigeria.

611
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:42.679
I really love the firesight chats and
the panel sessions that we had. Some

612
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.559
of them are really you know,
it was like getting so much information from

613
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:50.199
from legends in the game. I
remember, I don't I don't remember a

614
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.800
number those. This lecturer I believe
she was a lecturer from Lagos. Maybe

615
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:58.840
you can't remember how she was listed
for one of the panel panel panel Gaza

616
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.840
particularly spoke to me a lot,
spoke to my solution a lot. So

617
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:07.800
let's say mostly what effects really helped
me or all the advice I got from

618
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:14.840
people who have been in the game
already got you? So what's more less

619
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:20.320
the the whole out, the whole
apart from the networking. Is that what

620
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:24.039
you're saying, the whole camarade?
Yeah, I thought you guys have been

621
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:28.519
from you, guys have been games
some part from your presentations. Did have

622
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.800
all help? Yes, yes,
that that all helped in in shaping our

623
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:37.440
ideas and making us you know,
better better a group people in the industry.

624
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:43.039
Did you learn anything from any other
contest and like copy something? Did

625
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:46.760
you that they touched you that you're
now implemented in what you're doing, which

626
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:52.119
are a solution? Yes, yes, mostly from your coogle and when he

627
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.519
really mentioned about you know is a
Ruboman but you can you can read you

628
00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:04.119
also in game muscle that really spoke
to me. I thought I had I

629
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:09.400
was genius and you know a lane
for translations from different languages. But I

630
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:14.400
realize that's also a problem because so
many people can drink but hos many people

631
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:19.880
can understand that they can treat their
languages instead of that, is there a

632
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:22.719
language for farmers? Would you say
English or natives can be a better way

633
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:28.159
to communicate tech to farmers like Magias
Soult the lesters in mobile phones. I

634
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.480
don't think it's all those things not
in English. But do you think a

635
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:37.480
farmer that's not educated, not literate
right, can understand say a simple tech

636
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:43.480
on a phone without having a luck
English. Do you think that's possible?

637
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:49.440
And it is what we will should
buy for It would be possible for urban

638
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:54.119
farmers. But in our systems I
believe we need to have inclusivity as a

639
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:59.599
whole systems. I believe. So
if in a way you can have your

640
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:05.039
system start starts people from all alongases
can understand it, the better. If

641
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:10.400
yousould not interact for a certain niche
make take further to look. All right,

642
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:15.360
couple, So your couple just the
same question, right, how has

643
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:22.159
the effects platform supported the innovation you're
scaling? Really? How has effects like

644
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:28.599
supported your winning solutions? What do
they do? And what do you do

645
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:35.360
to keep on making higher and higher? And of course helping the productivity here

646
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:42.559
priculment acquating jobs all that better?
All right, thank you very much.

647
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:51.480
Let me start from the perspectives of
mentorships and room with them many competitions and

648
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:57.480
most times although their texts and agriculate
your body, they are not reading into

649
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:01.360
the autoing them systems value just trying
to get you moving with bonding. But

650
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:05.880
for effects they were there. They
were then defeat that is what they do.

651
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.559
So and when you have somebody that
does something, it becomes easier for

652
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:13.079
you to kind of copy them because
they were not They know, they know

653
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.440
the problems, they know the solutions, and you know you are you are

654
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.519
with them. They give it the
insight point of touching the particular application of

655
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.920
it, and you know that okay, this work, this doesn't work.

656
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:27.719
Then when I moved down to the
mentorship the class I had a the fault

657
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.480
book can really opened my eyes design
thinking, product management, all of them.

658
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:36.800
I could measure the names of people, but it's in the exhaust Then

659
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.280
talk about the people that came in. There were people who have much more

660
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:44.480
experience than I do in different agricultures. So we inter elected and you know,

661
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:46.800
I was able to get to my
day things I think was working or

662
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:51.159
what it was right, and I
also able to value the detail that I'm

663
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:55.920
able to them moving out for they
were freed was also like top notch.

664
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.000
It is one of the kind they
also moved out to. With the pitching

665
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:06.039
section, here, I think I
have my mentory, my pigitary so for

666
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:09.760
correction them that was mysteried and he
has to chain my pitch several in swapping

667
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:16.480
over like me was during the session
itself or when when did he when was

668
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:22.199
this happening? Okay, So after
the first boot camp, we were asigning

669
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:27.159
mentors that we have to reach out
when the process, you have to send

670
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.000
me your pitch so that you can
rebew it and you know, correct the

671
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:32.719
writings. So and during that time
I had to write the hook bogs of

672
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.199
Peach and asked to make sure it's
going and I literally remember he woke up

673
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.559
adding twelve foot clock in the morning. He died to the main competition where

674
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:47.239
he was revealing it how to kind
of mentally do everything kind of practice practice,

675
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:53.400
timing everything, how I deliver everything
was kind of practice practice practice.

676
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:57.480
So by the end of it,
how I cannot well people, even when

677
00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.960
I came to this stage, I
know exactly one I need to say,

678
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.719
even without the peat tech, and
exactly work point that needs to because I've

679
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:07.559
done them as a band to bagain
and he swapped those things so much that

680
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:12.760
I like that because he said that
it is not about you actually speaking.

681
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.719
You need to know your idea of
it. You are not going to be

682
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:19.000
giving it points every time when you're
meet invest or, when you need to

683
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.119
talk to pout. So if you
need a part point or help, you're

684
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.079
not afraid to convey your physic idea
and I miss you to learn what you're

685
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:28.440
doing, so you have to swap
in many times so that I could.

686
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.159
So moving on to that, I
also had some team from you know,

687
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:37.480
the exposure, also giving myself to
partnerships and go to middle of people's partner

688
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.320
with them and of course it's it's
a little going on the way. Thanks

689
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:45.880
my great a, put my child
and your I'm going to come to as

690
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:50.559
a final question on I'm going to
ask you how you see your app in

691
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.280
the next five years and how you
think what's your friend from this? A

692
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:58.679
text like at all will take your
app awareness today the next five years.

693
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:00.400
But I'm not going to clear as
folks. I want to speak to their

694
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:04.199
hands ups and I'm going to ask
them to speak. I'll come back to

695
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.800
you ask the question for what Michael
Yakobo I can't seem to find. I

696
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:13.320
think it's dropped up. I'll set
him the question for Wait, you see

697
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.599
your app in the next five years
and how do you think what you have

698
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:20.880
laned at the apex Hakaton. It's
going to take you day five years.

699
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:24.360
Let's get one pole on poles.
Hello everyone, thanks for having me.

700
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:30.519
I'm from Brazil and I've been your
conversations like the last one Ricks they have

701
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:37.679
the chance to speak, but it's
very interesting to understand and know about Nigeria.

702
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:43.280
I spasically want to actually ask you
the main challenges of the A Group

703
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:46.000
business in Nigeria. And I would
like to add as well. Then two

704
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:51.599
years ago throughout the Rotary Club some
of you knows Rotary, my dad was

705
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.559
governor and we are doing it.
We started a program. We started a

706
00:54:54.599 --> 00:55:00.000
conversation with a group in Legos Lagos, right in Nigeria in your to exchange

707
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:05.239
some programs. You know, Brazil, it is quite it's quite a head

708
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:12.639
regarding Arcrow technology education. We have
a case in a certain region of Brazil,

709
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:21.079
the center west of Brazil where ANARI
attendees to twice the size of Nigeria.

710
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:25.239
That was not you couldn't form there
at all. And throughout certain programs

711
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:34.920
partnerships, education, financial programs,
coaching and follow up from this Embrapa,

712
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.480
who doesn't know Embrapa, please take
a look on Google. We have very

713
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:43.199
good programs that we could share with
Nigeria, you know, so we're trying

714
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:45.920
to do that, like a couple
of years ago. We had actually a

715
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:52.400
meeting with the back then I think
was the assistant of the Secretary of Agriculture.

716
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:54.880
I'm not I'm not sure, but
it didn't go through. So it

717
00:55:54.920 --> 00:56:00.480
would be very nice to know the
main challenges you have and and how you

718
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:06.880
see throughout corporation with other countries,
other companies from these different places. Than

719
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:09.480
what do you do in order to
help you in this challenge? Is actually

720
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:14.599
that's make question. I would say, speak of myself, and there's a

721
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.360
pomer here, speak of myself.
I think the main problem in Nigeria is

722
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:25.639
power supply. So across urban,
rural industrial, the power supply Nigeria is

723
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:30.719
non existence or unreliable. So what
that means is that if you go to

724
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:35.159
rural areas where you have the actual
farming, you can do post production.

725
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:39.039
So take for instance, maze which
is or rice right is a staple in

726
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:45.360
Nigeria. The mills need power or
generator us to run. Hence their cost

727
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:50.280
of production does go up. So
when the final output is out, it's

728
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.320
expensive and most niger adds very low
income can afford it, even though we

729
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:59.000
have to party rights in Nigeria.
When we process it out, the cost

730
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:04.960
of processing makes it very expensive,
so power supply very very expensive. Fetializers

731
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:09.000
are also expensive in Nigeria because most
of the farmers don't can afford the vices

732
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:14.920
are so yield director also very very
very very low. They're talking about things

733
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:20.239
like irrigation. We're still doing a
ring fed farming in Nigeria, but the

734
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:23.400
bo the northern areas where we have
the bok farming, we have a few

735
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:29.159
dams there, but irrigation is the
problem. Then you come to storage where

736
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:32.400
we have bumper harvests, but we
only have corn in the count season,

737
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:37.760
really have mando the mano season.
We don't have the capacity to stare and

738
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:43.360
a truth of cold chains or warehouses
where we can keep these products and then

739
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:45.800
use them all year round. So
it books like impects at the speech and

740
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:50.400
to do the warehousing to get that
market where you can take a good as

741
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:55.440
a farmer and put But these are
the main it's really an infrastructure problem for

742
00:57:55.599 --> 00:58:00.519
Nigeria. You know, in terms
of the family yields. Where the largest

743
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:05.760
producer of yams lisperser of cassava,
one lisperser of milliads, so cute,

744
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.599
nothing that can grow in Nigeria but
store it to take it from the raw

745
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:17.320
agricultural produce to take to post post
harvest processing story. That's where the main

746
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:22.719
bottomneck lies in Nigeria. Family is
very difficult. I'm not going to talk

747
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:30.840
about insecurity because that's a different level
altogether where we have serious insecurities in the

748
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:36.400
food basket. But even before we
have that, we have this issues of

749
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:40.199
power, infrastructure, logistics and all
that. We have many guys come try

750
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:44.880
to fix that. We've had the
US do the acage, which is to

751
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:52.000
take like Legos Cannol and to create
cold chains and warehouses along that corridor hasn'tly

752
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:55.159
panned out. Affect is the private
sector concern and also do warehouse in a

753
00:58:55.239 --> 00:59:00.599
quator context change. They're working on
that. And so if you just into

754
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:05.119
this podcast and blacks are about break, you see where the problems in Nigeria

755
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.400
are. Finance is something else.
So you see this syst a lot of

756
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:12.079
thin tech and all that. So
there's a lot. I mean, if

757
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.719
you want to get connected, I
can connected to effects or I feel like

758
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.159
guys, if you want to send
me ADMA can just hand you up and

759
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:22.159
say okay, talk to this person. The problemsure are a lot and I'm

760
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.880
trying to be, you know,
to be really patriotic. It's a lot.

761
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:29.880
There's not one thing that we have
fixed in agriculture in Nigeria. We

762
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:37.159
can't say we have fixed power or
infrastructure or storage or financing. So that's

763
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.199
the problem, yea. So maybe
if we can add something, then it's

764
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:46.519
quick interest this part of ours Nigeria. He wanted initially and specifically to manufacturation

765
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:52.480
ration for the cattle because he said, you have several issues regarding culture where

766
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:57.239
the cattle it actually doesn't stay in
one place, right, you don't have

767
00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:02.880
the grass bridge. So then we
came it's logistics and energy issues regarding the

768
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:08.320
companies. They want to go there
and build the silos and manufacture some part

769
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:13.639
of this ration there. So it
was a lot of challenges honestly, and

770
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:16.880
it's exactly the same as you're telling
Quick. At the time, Nager was

771
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:22.199
going to imput grass from Brazil to
feed cattle and the ranches. I don't

772
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.800
know if you're aware of that.
There was supposed to be a big thing

773
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:32.280
I think was the past first ten
of the past administration soup from twenty fifteen

774
01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:37.639
twenty sixteen. We're aware of that, No, no, specifically, not

775
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:42.079
specific, Okay, Yeah, we
wanted to import the grass, the grass

776
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:45.719
that order to feed the cows in
the ranches because that we have this blue

777
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:51.760
branded culture of Catalan natuas where to
put ranches bringing the grass growing so the

778
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:55.639
farms could eat on side of the
ranches where that pitted out a will.

779
01:00:55.719 --> 01:01:00.920
So yeah, thanks for jumping in
under shame or talk to appreciate that.

780
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:06.599
Yeah, farmer, you go.
You have a quick quick question that I

781
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:13.239
will go back to your elude Michael. Yeah, yeah, cause so one

782
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.960
of the things that you said that
God really laughing hair was where he said

783
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:21.760
those farm already have is a language
they really communicate, you know, where

784
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:25.760
you say they're really good laughing hair. And and you're very correct because I

785
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:31.840
altered a book called the Rise of
Digital Agriculture and that these are simple from

786
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:38.280
the mental issues or problems that actually
affects a cultural solutions and technology. You

787
01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:45.119
could build a systematic, you know, beautiful solution app either true and web

788
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:52.719
enabled or through an absolution. And
you finally very difficult that you can't.

789
01:01:53.880 --> 01:02:00.719
You can you can make a small
older farmer possibly living in somewhere let me

790
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:08.920
use REGAA inflating karad rate card where
you have large light tones of farmers in

791
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:15.639
clusters the actually farminge soybeans, and
you have a super platform or superweb solution

792
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:22.320
whereby it's easy for them to make
transactions or for them to do contract famine

793
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:25.400
or whatever I want to do.
Because your code they stepped using in English

794
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:30.039
Langue and you don't understand how do
you communicate this to them? Now,

795
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:37.800
these are simple gaps that technology providers, solution providers need to begin to close

796
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:39.480
up as fast as possible. I
was I was working with a group of

797
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:45.599
guys start up guys in Kebby just
about last year. So they have these

798
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:53.039
specific solutions which would build and the
idea was it was localized so that using

799
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:58.639
the part of AI. So when
you speak out language okay and you grab

800
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:04.199
that automatically, they app understands what
the farmer is your question for. So

801
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.360
so every up developer needs to begin
to look at how that the big ow

802
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:14.639
they could localize their solutions so that
it could feed into the world of every

803
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:17.559
small or the farmer. And don't
forget that not all small other farmers do

804
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:22.199
have Android phones. Do have to
do have your ideas or your Apple or

805
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:24.840
your you know, superphones. Some
of them are to working with your SSD.

806
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:29.639
Okay, I'm sorry your your future
phones. So as you working with

807
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:34.119
you know, those small phones.
So how do you communicate your simple solutions

808
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:37.880
so that so these are gaps that
actually are still existing. I begin to

809
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:43.880
look at ways we can actually begin
to close those gaps for a typical smaller

810
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:46.760
farmer that doesn't even understand English.
But we'll be able to use your ab

811
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:52.039
effectively and make some sense, you
know, using it, and everybody makes

812
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:54.840
money. So those are the gaps
that are still quite existing because our farmers

813
01:03:54.840 --> 01:04:00.079
are still typical lookal, they don't
not all of them understand English. If

814
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:02.840
you into preach for them, isn't
an extension officer, but you need to

815
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:09.760
bring solutions down to the farming area
where they could easily absorb and they really

816
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:14.159
easily use it, you know,
at their comfort zone. Simple. Great,

817
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:15.800
Thanks, thanks farm And maybe even
when I meant with a serious question,

818
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:19.400
like when I when I see United
Voice y voice making cold, they'll

819
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:24.880
say they're doing x XML. Whether
you're doing from New Daily, or you're

820
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:28.239
from near Weed, or you're from
San Francisco, they seem to understand what

821
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:30.079
they're saying, so they speagnoses,
they are code, they're writ and whatever

822
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:33.440
it is, and they seem to
get along right. So I was saying,

823
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:38.800
if there's something that is there that
it's okay, a farmer in Kenya

824
01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:44.480
and a farmer in Nigeria would be
able to just convert or conversate about soil,

825
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:48.119
about climate, about rainfall. I
don't understand what they were saying,

826
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.119
right, Like, I really love
Michael's solution. I want to us an

827
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:55.320
happier states. If I plug it
in, we'll just give me visual to

828
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:59.480
say, song, I'll see here
the song or I see red there's either

829
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:01.480
the soul well things like that.
So I could pick up on him even

830
01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:06.159
if I don't speaks what heal,
I would understand exactly what he's uh,

831
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:11.679
he's saying just basually that's actually where
I'm going to. So that is a

832
01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:14.920
fantastic So guys, let me try
to because on hours like and let the

833
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:17.880
guys go back and enjoy at your
weekend and almost at the hour if you

834
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:24.280
guys won't make a start of spaces
immediately after this, so you can do

835
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:28.400
a normal spaces for guys, Let's
start from in held at The question is

836
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:30.360
I'm going to be elude your coble
And of course, Michael, where do

837
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:33.400
you see your app your solution?
Tell us about it. Where do you

838
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:36.559
see it in the next five years? And where do you think or how

839
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:41.079
do you think what you've lent from
this APEX could crash come from on zero

840
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:45.800
Hackton would end. Would basically empower
you to get there. So what is

841
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:47.840
your app in the next five Go
ahead and go to flow Elude, then

842
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:53.000
your couple then of course Michael,
Okay, thank you very much. Calou

843
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:58.920
I can say, first of all, I was very empowered being being a

844
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:03.119
finalist the called cash Croup and like
I said, the highlight the highlights of

845
01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:11.199
the event, apart from me winning
coming second coming hard actually the second runners

846
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:15.400
was that ill I got approached by
the Worlderful program to work with them,

847
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:24.360
to partner with them. That was
the biggest highlight, the biggest dilight you

848
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:28.880
can and the world yes, to
work with them. Is it going to

849
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:34.679
be in your specifically or where you're
gonna work with them? Is just really

850
01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:46.760
starting the go ahead? Sorry,
sorry I lost him right? Are you

851
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:51.119
going to work for them just in
one country or across Africa? Where are

852
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:55.800
you going to basically work with the
world. Basically we are starting with the

853
01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:00.440
key because this is where we are
piloting the program. But it will be

854
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:04.360
scale the definitely to all the African
regions. But can you be using it

855
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:09.639
as a as a as a launch
part. So that was actually the highlight.

856
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:15.199
So just to encourage their innovators in
this case, like you never know

857
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.360
who you're talking to when you're going
to pitch, you never know who you're

858
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:21.440
talking to. One person in the
audience can change your life. And for

859
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:27.159
us was that it was you effects
you give us a platform that is I

860
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.119
don't know, I don't know how
to express it, but yeah, it

861
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.920
was begger for us a self.
Yeah, well it facts. Good job

862
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:38.920
it facts, good job elude,
I mean, good tim very happy pen

863
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:42.280
I minutes. On the personal level, like I said, this alone has

864
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.599
changed to watch your channel your ass
up the next five years. But if

865
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:47.760
you work the ones with program able
to scale this out, that's gonnably just

866
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:51.199
massive for you. I wish I
can bring all three of you in five

867
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.440
years. But to say where are
you today from the five years, I

868
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:57.760
wish I could do that in five
yess that we never know, we might

869
01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:00.960
not to do that. They are, but keep us in your little nextwork.

870
01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:06.559
Let's just let me know what you're
doing. I would appreciate that.

871
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:11.599
Correctory couple send with you. Wait
to see your happen next five years and

872
01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:17.479
how do you think it particulate?
Thank you very much. For us,

873
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:24.800
there's one thing we are driving at
this I think innovation and for us look

874
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:30.800
like automation and mechanization. But we
know that that will not happen without solving

875
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:33.560
the under rot problems. So,
like I said, the first thing we

876
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:38.319
need to do is to bring our
firm at awareness through education. They need

877
01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:42.159
to know what is wrong and what
need to be done after they gonna move

878
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.960
them. For us, we save, we serve as startup as one startop

879
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:48.239
the heap automate. Like you mentioned, a lot of problems right that time,

880
01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:55.239
logistics and all of that, but
we believe that with the right technology

881
01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:58.359
we could solve that. Of course
that's the're glority to solve that yet or

882
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:03.720
how do you the systems that need
to take place that could have So for

883
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.760
us, we're kind of clearing the
olde. We are trying to see how

884
01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:13.640
automate farm in the smallest way,
starting from fertilizers, prayer Joan sprayers down

885
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:17.039
to can automate logistics, well,
can use even if it's helicopter, we're

886
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:19.760
going to use what the vice is. There was a scene how we can

887
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:25.680
introduce mechanization, which means the family
need to move from the celebrated lands,

888
01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:29.039
those smaller land they used to a
very people and which involved was working with

889
01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:33.760
movements and some other agricultural bodies.
Then the education factor, irrespectable of whatever

890
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:39.119
language of education, they should be
a language and you're the shuperial language from

891
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:43.119
we understand and that language is skill. So we need to be able to

892
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:45.680
scale those farmers. And at the
end of it all, we should be

893
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.319
able to bring youth to this game. Many ut runs in with because of

894
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:53.039
our cultures. But if we can
drive in technology, they can bring you

895
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:57.319
them so and that you tear ourself
in the next few years. More for

896
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:04.920
research more from application input perfect perfect, Thanks circle by again. Contractions on

897
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:11.720
your wind person you want to go
to with your windings? Okay, thank

898
01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:15.560
you very much. Right now,
we've been discussing endlessly with most competive and

899
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:20.560
we we've started segregating our formatic closters. Presently, now we have then closters

900
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:26.039
eaching, then closed our meeting closer
content them people. So right now my

901
01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:30.800
team already on swift trying to build
us them where why are some of them

902
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.920
are already talking on defeats. So
but of first we need to identify the

903
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:38.479
problem. So we are talking to
people like my ITAs and all of that

904
01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:42.359
are trying to gather the datas because
it's all we know the mainments of itater

905
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:45.720
that we can effectly solve it.
So we then we're trying to build your

906
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:49.159
first joucture and drive technology. So
I could say that we thank you.

907
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:54.239
We focus on on trying to get
the little that dos and need to or

908
01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:57.439
results because let me get that resor
we can come back to your west and

909
01:10:57.600 --> 01:10:59.880
like, okay, we thank you. This is well we're able to do.

910
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.159
If you give us one then we
can do timestain of these kind of

911
01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:06.920
times. One days of these within
these times gives So I get that aping

912
01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:13.399
now perfect, perfect, good jobecable
and I'm good in Michael. As one

913
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:15.000
policy you're an able to make you
speak at the Michael. So Michael,

914
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:20.399
go ahead and thank you so much. This questions the question that you just

915
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:27.039
asked, things like the usually asked
in the interview processing and care in five

916
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:30.399
years and we can kind of a
judge your best off the answering give.

917
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:35.600
But I think it's a different context
because what you're building is a service for

918
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:40.079
people. So the real answer that's
question is well seem saying five years as

919
01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:45.840
where the market places it. So
if the market fixes it and that set

920
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:47.960
sits in a way, I believe
in it can be hopel in Limin Can

921
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:51.880
for mostly Huban farmer school. They've
moved a new place. I don't know

922
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:56.960
what's to grow where to grow it. I believe it can be a hub

923
01:11:57.039 --> 01:12:00.479
where farmers can be able to talk
to each other because you also have community

924
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:03.319
space such that you can be able
to talk to farmers who are growing the

925
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:08.560
similar crops that you're green too,
you can talk to them. It can

926
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:13.960
be the way that st digitizes it. Agree with industry, which is a

927
01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:18.199
billion dollar industry in Kenya and I
believe I multi billion dollar industry in Africa.

928
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:26.279
So I've seen s bewhere the market
places it in five years? Got

929
01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:30.960
okay simple a short times Michael.
I'm looking always your best food you as

930
01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:34.800
whilst you were in West Africa Nigeria. Did you remember any tust that you

931
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:40.720
at. I only touched you.
Yeah, I love the jello fries.

932
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:45.680
The jello fries was really nice.
But the first way not all they give

933
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:47.640
us. Everything was preparative. But
to tell them now to turn it down,

934
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:53.359
Okay. Then finally I believe I
had some Jello fries, so it

935
01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:57.159
was really nice accent. Just so
you know, right, Jello frice was

936
01:12:57.239 --> 01:13:00.800
independent in Nigeria. Only Nigeria do
jello fries, No other Africa countries.

937
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:06.520
So you seek Anya after you Delo
frizing model Jello fries and Nigeria export right,

938
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:10.760
So just just let you know when
you go back to East Africa that

939
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:15.520
Jello fries is Nigeria and Nigeria.
Yeah, man, all right, super

940
01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:19.720
one, Paul, you had you
had at your hands off, sir,

941
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:24.560
Yes, sir, thank you so
much for having me again. Actually a

942
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:29.359
specifically to Allwood and everyone here that
it's interested in the topic, actually represent

943
01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:33.920
the Chamber of Commerce pursue in India. We're doing a specific emission in January

944
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:40.159
in New Delhi. Where do you
think about thirty to forty companies in the

945
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:45.960
business regarding tech food processing and tell
you with your program, your actually your

946
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:49.239
program is great. I was taking
a look about CIO Africa. I think

947
01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:53.039
you could share a lot of things. You know, Pursue has a lot

948
01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:56.439
to offer and to learn. You
know, can share a lot of things.

949
01:13:56.520 --> 01:14:00.880
So just give give you my invite. Then the ones they're interested who

950
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:06.359
could talk in DM share experiences.
Maybe we have people here to invest and

951
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:11.600
work together. And if you guys
have the chance, please go to Newdall

952
01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:15.039
in January. They would be a
very important meeting regarding this specific area.

953
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:17.800
Yeah, at one point, if
you want to go on to DM and

954
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.079
share, I can do that for
you as well. If you DM it,

955
01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:25.000
I can also yourself you share case
books or not what it's talking about.

956
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:30.279
Swim going to be there and also
Calude Yakbo Michael also if he wants

957
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:33.279
to also stem DM dm me maybe
like a fly that's not your link,

958
01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:38.119
what your solution was and all that, that would be wonderful. So folks

959
01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:41.520
that listen to you in case I
want to go to that spec pick up

960
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:44.640
or site and see what you'll do
with that. Just dm me is something

961
01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:47.600
that can I can retweet that will
have the solution or watch or whatever it

962
01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:51.520
is, right it's folks, and
just follow and see the progress you guys.

963
01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:57.319
Make it down also be fantastic.
All right, guys, thank you

964
01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:00.159
someone. We try to spend an
hour just so we can have this record

965
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:04.600
is going to be on of course
the Twitter's x space to record and also

966
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:08.159
going to be on the podcast link. The podcast is just going to be

967
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:12.359
on my profile. It's also going
to be on the youtubeer and go back

968
01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:18.640
and you know, just really rewind
and rehear this particular presentation. I'll just

969
01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:23.439
say special, big big big text
to effects up. I'm saying their name

970
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:27.880
rights. You know, not a
lot of corporates do the talk right,

971
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.840
also do the work. It's always
a lot of we are supporting agriculture,

972
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:34.399
and they say this because they want
to take that box of Nightgeria. Because

973
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:39.079
once in Niger you say your support
agriculture, it's like saying you are supporting

974
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:42.159
a lean. You know, it
makes you look that you are quote and

975
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:46.359
quote you know, patriotic. But
they go for them. They're doing this,

976
01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:49.560
you know, they're they're taking you
to and asking them what is your

977
01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:56.520
idea how can you scale agriculture?
And these are very very easy solutions that

978
01:15:56.720 --> 01:16:00.399
are talking about these are not far
fit solutions are not like esoteric solutions,

979
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:05.199
are things you can do tomorrow.
And they're basically bringing it and saying this

980
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:10.640
is what we have done and we
can scale just the idea sharing a loan.

981
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:14.039
Were on Twitter space now talking about
because we talk busts from you from

982
01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:18.680
Kennya with guys from Nigeria and about
how their solving progress and Apex has made

983
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:24.600
that happened with the price money,
with the networking with the constant shares on

984
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:28.239
social media right and they have their
own day job. You know, in

985
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:32.920
their day job, they run not
a warehouse in the communities exchange in in

986
01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:38.920
Nigeria. They have on a note
that they are basically so we see markets

987
01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:43.159
and allow you to invest in agriculture
as a retail investor. So as a

988
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:45.840
recent investor, you can buy their
note as a community exchange you as a

989
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:49.479
farmer, you could store your grains
in their warehouse. You can investor in

990
01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:55.359
party Rascal because you could buy products
from them and trade. Also heading to

991
01:16:55.439 --> 01:17:00.199
head inflation. So they're doing a
lot and we'll see more called for it

992
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:06.199
to actually go down not to rule
and to the actionable level and impact and

993
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:11.319
culture at that very very low rural
level. That's what we want to see.

994
01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:14.800
The more we do that, the
more we bring in the tech and

995
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:19.000
the thin to agrek that, the
more we can scale all those of advocate

996
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:24.479
has been left too much to just
rainfall and pour from us going to go

997
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:28.520
into that space and really bring it
back up, because once we bring out

998
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:32.520
of culture up in Nigeria, that's
a way to kill poverty. Tenty percent

999
01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:36.840
of Nigeria's n point of your culture
ten tips and of our GDP contract your

1000
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:42.600
culture, so just to one percent
shift and agriculture, it's going to have

1001
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:46.880
a massive impact on an employment and
poverty. So what Affects is doing is

1002
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:53.079
fighting poverty at the very very roots
of it. Are using as we say,

1003
01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:56.279
a de alop metal. So I
appreciate them. I just want to

1004
01:17:56.319 --> 01:18:00.399
say I would have wished a lady
would have been here as either or a

1005
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:04.000
winner or either as a finalist so
we could just get you know, their

1006
01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:08.359
insight. I think the ladies have
a lot of ideas. They are a

1007
01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:12.600
lot of exact lo on Twitter that
are doing lots of stuff with the poetry

1008
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:15.680
space, in the community space,
in the practice space. So I don't

1009
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.680
know if there's going to be a
quote to have, but I would love

1010
01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:23.960
befext to to really target and say, we want to make sure we have

1011
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:28.920
you know, that participation. We
want to get those folks in here so

1012
01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:31.359
we can have them to talk about
the experience as well. In Africa.

1013
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:34.319
They're big. I mean, they
are more than the workforce have to work

1014
01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:41.720
force in Africa and they are involved
in that space. So Michael elude yakobook

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conditions to you guys, you're all
winners. Thank you all so much for

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helping onto this space with me this
Sunday. We're here every every seven o'clock

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at seven post African time, and
so we're gonna just end this not right

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here and next week are don't have
a guess. We're gonna talk about Nigeria,

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Canada, US immigration. We're going
to do hr invest thing. We'll

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easily going to be about if I
want to leave Nigeria and go abroad,

1021
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what do I need to know both
to get a job, both to invest

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01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:21.319
abroad? What do I need to
do to buy a house? That we're

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going to give you the fast the
figures, you know, like experts ideas,

1024
01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:30.279
so you don't go there and you're
struggling for advice and you lose what

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or two years or you do the
wrong thing. So I'm sure you have

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to do it right. I'm going
to make an HR guy from Canada to

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just talk to you. So bring
you questions and we'll try to answer them

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next week. So their po.
What's a good time on that now,

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guys, let me let you guys, well go. If your team won'ts

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soccer this weekend, good job.
If your team didn't win, well,

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there's a lot next week. I'll
see you guys next week. My name

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is carlu Aga. You guys have
a great day. Thank you a lot

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for dragging in epics. We love
you, guys, or a guys by ticket