WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:52.240 The following presentation isn't all Margaret Studios Production. Welcome back to truth seekers from 2 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:57.560 around the world. It's time for another edition of The Flat earth Files. 3 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.479 I'm your host, as always, George Hobbs, and I hope this podcast 4 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.159 finds you well. As we continue to navigate through bizarro world. We have 5 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.079 a great guest standing by. His name's Tyler. He'll be joining us in 6 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.560 just a moment. Before we bring him on, just two quick reminders, 7 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:15.280 please do stop by the website the flat earth files dot com, the flat 8 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:19.920 earth files dot com, check out our twenty four seven streaming radio, our 9 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:23.079 chat room, our forum. There is so much to do. Stop by 10 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.719 and say hello. 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Sir George, thank you so much for having me on. 30 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:50.280 You have been literally my therapist therapy session just about every day for about 31 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.840 two months here in my relatively fast awakening in a short amount of time. 32 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.240 I think that's the one thing we all have in common is you know, 33 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:05.120 we're kind of in this I don't like to call it a genre, but 34 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:08.159 just for the you know, just for the sake of calling it something, 35 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:13.319 this niche genre where we all in the truth community, where it's so hard 36 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.479 to find like minded people. You know, it'd be hard to say to 37 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:21.319 put a number on how many people are awake or cognizant of the level of 38 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:24.840 deceit that's going on. But I know from boots on the ground and talking 39 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:29.520 to people around me, it's far and few beteen between. So it's not 40 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:34.479 just therapeutic for you guys, it's very therapeutic for me. And I guess 41 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:38.240 I'm kind of spooled to be able to sit down and have a conversation with 42 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:43.719 folks a couple of times a week. Yeah, you know, this is 43 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.879 just being open and honest. I many times the past few weeks I've been 44 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:53.879 driving to a therapy appointment and felt great just listening to the like minded people 45 00:03:54.120 --> 00:04:00.520 on my drive there, listening to you talk, and then feeling about that, 46 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:02.479 and then going into therapy and the therapy and not helping as much as 47 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:06.400 listening to your podcast. So you know, I don't think I can express 48 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.000 enough to you how much I appreciate it. Well. I appreciate the kind 49 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.839 words. And I've had people mentioned that who go to therapy I went when 50 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:19.240 I was in the military, that there's people that say, and I guess 51 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:24.399 there's something to it when you sit down and you have a conversation that it's 52 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:27.680 great to have someone to listen, but there's something to be said about someone 53 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:31.639 who's listening and understands what you're saying. Yes, completely, all right, 54 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:34.319 Well, before we kick things off, and again thank you for joining us 55 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:39.240 today. Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. Sure, 56 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:44.040 my name is Tyler, as George already mentioned, I'm forty two years 57 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:48.040 old. I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, the northern suburbs of 58 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:57.399 Chicago, a very wealthy town with a lot of very intelligent people who are 59 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:01.040 very you know, a lot of great people my town. But I think 60 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:05.759 there are a lot of people who are into material things. You know. 61 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:11.720 It's a very physical world in the world I grew up in, and it's 62 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.480 just kind of what I always thought was reality, you know. I always 63 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.879 thought that, you know, we lived in the physical I was, you 64 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:24.079 know, had a good education, a good elementary school, middle school, 65 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:28.000 high school education with you know, all the best teachers, and really just 66 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:32.079 thought I was in you know, kind of in the note because I was 67 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:36.040 around a lot of intelligent, smart and wealthy people, so I you know, 68 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:43.399 what my world was was kind of that. So I very different place 69 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:47.480 than where I'm at now, and I think, well, I'll get into 70 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.160 that a little bit more. But I've been a teacher for twenty years, 71 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:57.680 i am married, with two dogs, no kids, and the past few 72 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:05.319 months have been like not thing I've ever experienced in my life, very very 73 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:11.639 how do I how do I say it? A lot of unique circumstance. 74 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:15.839 There's a lot of unique experiences that will be hard to explain, but also 75 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:21.920 are things that I really didn't even realize could be reality until I'm sitting here 76 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:27.399 today like I am. And I guess the first question I have to ask 77 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:31.519 you is from your upbringing to a young age, did you pretty much buy 78 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:34.560 everything unadulterated, like, yes, we went to the moon, Yes we 79 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:40.680 live on a ball, and those type of things that were taught you know 80 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:45.759 what I did, but I didn't. It wasn't it wasn't anything I spent 81 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.959 a lot of time thinking about, you know, There was never a question 82 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:51.319 for me that the Earth wasn't round. That was nothing that you know. 83 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:58.040 I learned that as a young kid, and you know, I didn't really 84 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.319 think too much of it. I didn't think there could never be seat. 85 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:02.959 My wife always says, how, you know, we went to similar middle 86 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:06.399 schools and that the same area and up the same school. But she always 87 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:11.959 mentions how when she learned about the earth being round, that people used to 88 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.199 think it was flat and we were smarter than that now and if there are 89 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:19.319 people that still think that, then you know they have mental health issues. 90 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:24.600 So like she remembers being taught that from a young age, and you know, 91 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.519 for her to remember that, I think explains a lot of well, 92 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.839 I've had a really hard time kind of getting her to see that I'm not 93 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.759 a crazy person. Yeah, that is very impressionable, and that is part 94 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:42.879 of I think the master plan that when the Rockefellers kind of started taking over 95 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:48.040 everything from medicine, which, by the way, the Chicago I forget what 96 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:53.639 it's called, maybe the Chicago Institute for Medicine, which is really where they 97 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:58.720 started the American Medical Association, and you had to get their certification in order 98 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.480 to become a licensed doctor. So a lot of the homeopathic and people who 99 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:05.759 maybe did practices that weren't so much on vaccines, et cetera, you wouldn't 100 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:11.199 get licensed. So the Rockefellers took over medicine, and then they also took 101 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:16.600 over education, so they wanted people indoctrinated. They didn't want critical thinkers, 102 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.800 And in order to get the ball story to work, they had to use 103 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:26.959 many levels of propaganda, whether it be television, the movies, and education. 104 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:33.080 And that's why I call it the Granddaddy of conspiracies, because it is 105 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.399 such a stigma to it. If you mention it again, I've said this 106 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:39.960 a thousand times. If you mentioned the you know, the moon landing at 107 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.960 work around the water cooler, everybody will have a conversation with you. But 108 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.399 at the minute you mentioned flat Earth, it's like turning on a light with 109 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:52.759 the cockroaches and they scatter, right. Oh. I mean I could probably 110 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:58.600 count one hundred times the past few months that I have had that exact reaction. 111 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:05.759 And it's, I guess, getting back to your initial question with kind 112 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:09.399 of believing things as they were told as if I was growing up, I 113 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:13.559 was always kind of a I never liked group think. I was never someone 114 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:18.480 that kind of wanted to follow the crowd, especially after high school. I 115 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:22.919 think as a teacher, one of my things I always tell to students and 116 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.279 to athletes i've coached, one of the things if I could go back in 117 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:31.600 time and tell my younger self, you know, give give my younger self 118 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.480 one piece of advice, it would be careless about what other people think, 119 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:37.799 you know, and be you, be true to you, do what you 120 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.720 think is right, and care less about what people think. And that has 121 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:46.639 been a big thing within me for dozens of years. And I literally think 122 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:52.679 that part of that was meant for this, you know, part of me 123 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:58.120 not caring what people think for the past twenty years was just like planting that 124 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.200 seed for me. So when I out to flat or if I could be 125 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:03.399 like, I, you know what, this is true, this is right. 126 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.639 I need to do something to help people see this lie in the sea, 127 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.799 And I don't really care what people think about me because I know what's 128 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:18.080 what's right exactly, and that is that type of thought process should be brought 129 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.240 more into the education process. Right, if you don't answer correctly something in 130 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.759 history exactly how it's written in the history books, you're considered wrong. But 131 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.840 you know, in my other podcast, I've gone almost against the grain on 132 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:37.240 any you know, big historical event going over the last one hundred and seventy 133 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:41.720 years at least, whether it be Linking or the Gulf of Tonkin, on 134 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:46.279 and on and on, and most people it's funny the history teachers will be 135 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.799 the one to tell you that the victors right the story. And just for 136 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:56.120 an example, that there's so many lies and misgivings about World War Two that 137 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:00.279 that is right in front of people, and they're afraid to look into it 138 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:05.200 because it does go back and this ties directly into flat earth because it's in 139 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.080 the history book. It's in you know, the book, so it must 140 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:15.559 be true exactly exactly, And I I lost my train of thought there. 141 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.559 Sorry, not something I was going with in that nowhere that narrative and totally 142 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.440 forgot no worries. But as far as the education process goes, it is 143 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:31.679 something, uh that we need more schools, more private schools that encourage critical 144 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.720 thinking. Instead of telling somebody an event, we encourage our daughter to research 145 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.879 an event and give us two, you know, aspects from it, not 146 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:45.360 just you know, this is what this particular history book tells you. I 147 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:46.480 want you to memorize it, and then I'm going to give you a test 148 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:50.360 to see how much you remember. That doesn't That doesn't That's what I was 149 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.399 going to say. I'm sorry, Yeah, I just I remembered and it 150 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:56.840 was I think I even emailed you about this. But we do something in 151 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.759 school in our school, the ice who I teach him, called understanding by 152 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.519 design, And basically what it is is you take the final answer, the 153 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:11.080 final product you want the students to get to, and you let them kind 154 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.000 of navigate how to get to that answer. But as long as they get 155 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.440 to that answer, you know they can do it however they want. But 156 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.279 it's not get to that answer and question that answer. It's the Earth is 157 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.159 round? How can we get to the answer the Earth is round? Or 158 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:31.120 you know anything but that. The design is get to the answer they want 159 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:37.000 you to know, not get to a critical thinking answer of it. No, 160 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:43.600 exactly. And that goes to what Nicholas Tesla always said is how science 161 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.200 was being replaced by math. Right, ninety three million miles is our end 162 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.600 number? Well, how can we make that work? And then they kind 163 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:56.919 of reverse plan from there without questioning. That's just I could talk at nauseam 164 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:00.320 about that. But yeah, you're right, there's a big problem with our 165 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:05.200 critical thinking skills within the education system. Yeah, and it's funny you mentioned 166 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:11.360 the sun because I think I ventured into the posting on Instagram with my beliefs, 167 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.559 and I think the last thing I posted was just about the sun and 168 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.360 how for forty two years I looked at the sun that I can see is 169 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.000 right there. It's just right there, and without question because I was told 170 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.759 I believed it was ninety three million miles away for forty two years. And 171 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:31.399 now you know, with all the things I've learned and the knowledge I've gained, 172 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.159 I look at it and it's like, it's silly to think that I 173 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.559 believe that for so many years. Yeah, and it is. I understand. 174 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.279 It's really hard to get people's attention. And I went through it too 175 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:45.039 when I first discovered flatter. That was a big fine for me. And 176 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.679 you're excited, you try to share it, and then the doors slam at 177 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:50.559 every avenue. I'll tell you. On my personal Facebook, I can post 178 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.919 a picture of me and my chicken and it'll get twenty lakes. But if 179 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:58.559 I post I think this past July nineteenth, I posted a picture of the 180 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:03.759 fake moon landing and said, you know, it's the fifty fourth anniversary of 181 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:09.039 Stanley Kubrick's documentary The Earth Landing, and nobody like it's just like it. 182 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:13.320 It's just interesting how people will like silly little things. But when you try 183 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.440 to toss a little bit of your mind out there that may go against the 184 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:20.799 grain, people are quick to just not just completely ignore it. Yeah, 185 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.120 flat Earth especially, it's like just a big gigantic magnet that repels people away. 186 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:28.559 Man, you're not kidding. Actually, sorry, go ahead. My 187 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.679 wife was supposed to travel this week and there was a chance I was gonna 188 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.799 go with her, and she was going to stay with friends, and they 189 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:41.720 recently have come across my Instagram post and they texted her and, you know, 190 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:46.279 with concerns, is he going to be sharing this with our young kids. 191 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:50.720 We don't want that, We don't want any sort of flat Earth conversation 192 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.639 in our homes, and really we're probably gonna not end up going. And 193 00:14:54.720 --> 00:15:03.120 it's just like the quick to just repel that information or even that topic is 194 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.919 has been quite the experience for me. I've never experienced anything like it where 195 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:16.360 it can turn ugly or divisive so quick and not even you know, with 196 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.200 me being totally calm and not trying to push, but just the conversation, 197 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.320 it's like it's sets some sort of defense mechanism off in people. And I 198 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:28.360 get it because it's you know, I think it's going against what you have 199 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:33.320 believed. It's going against your senses. You know. It's like you literally 200 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:39.120 have to readapt what your senses are as a kid, because little kids think 201 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.919 the earth is flat, little kids think the sun is right there. Little 202 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:46.159 kids don't understand how you know water could be sticking to the ball and how 203 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:52.080 we're spinning thousand miles per hour. You literally have to kind of redo what 204 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:58.480 your senses are. You know. That really speaks to the Again, we 205 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.240 were just talking about this this afterno and with another listener. Was that the 206 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:04.960 amount of effort, and it really goes to show how deep the propaganda goes, 207 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:10.600 because think about this, Tyler. If you put something on Instagram, 208 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:15.679 like just even if you copy it and paste or pulled a photo from from 209 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:21.600 Google of a UFO, and if you post something on Instagram said hey, 210 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:23.840 you know I think I saw or if you just referred to the fact that 211 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:30.360 maybe you saw a UFO, you wouldn't get nearly the pushback or like any 212 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:34.000 other fringe conspiracy theory, like it doesn't bother anybody. But man, when 213 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:40.279 you get to flat earth, just I'm still amazed to this day and blown 214 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:44.679 away, not just with you know what we call Norman's right, just people 215 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.919 who go about they're still on the blue pill, if you will. But 216 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.639 it's still very divisive. Not as much. I've noticed some improvements over the 217 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:55.799 last three years, but in a community where we're supposed to question everything, 218 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.919 it still has a lot of stigma to it. Absolutely, And I made 219 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:06.440 the mistake of I am kind of a I'm an extreme person that I either 220 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:10.880 get in completely into something or really not at all, and you know, 221 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:14.720 friends and family of Joe to call me mister extreme and things like that. 222 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:19.759 So when I kind of had a the awakening that I did, you know, 223 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:25.599 I don't think I was being mean or rude, but I wanted to 224 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:29.519 scream from the roof rooftops and share with everyone I cared about because it's like 225 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:36.720 when you realize that everyone is being lied to about this globe Earth, and 226 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.599 the awareness you can have of all the other lives. When once you realize 227 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.319 that this lie is so big that they have to be lying about so much 228 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:51.160 else, I just want, like literally wanted to just tell everyone I love 229 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:56.960 and care about. And since I've been an honest, trustworthy, upfront person 230 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.279 my whole life, I was like, well, they've always listened to me 231 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.720 and believe me and trust me about everything else, this won't be any different. 232 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:07.000 And it was like I couldn't have been further or that could have been 233 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:11.759 further from the truth. You know. One of my favorite movies is They 234 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.319 Live. And the conversation we are having right now is I kind of picture. 235 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:19.400 Have you seen the movie They Live? Oh? Yeah, I'm talking 236 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.519 about I'm like, please put on the dang glasses, just put them on, 237 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:27.559 and they're like no, and they're fighting with everything they have just they 238 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:30.440 won't even take a look. Yeah, and the few, you know, 239 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:37.880 the few people have gone to take a look. I feel like once they 240 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:41.960 if there's just a tiny thing that people see and they're like it just gives 241 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.920 them the thought for one second that might that I might be right, or 242 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.200 that this could be true, or there could be even a little bit of 243 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:52.680 truth to it. That's when it turns from a conversation to like a defense 244 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:56.920 mechanism clicks on and I don't want to talk about this anymore, just a 245 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:00.359 stupid you don't know what you're talking about. When leading up to that, 246 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:04.960 it was just a you know, normal conversation or a debate, not a 247 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.039 argument all of a sudden. Well, I think part part of it maybe 248 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:14.519 is. And I think it's the older you get, the more difficult it 249 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:18.359 is to get people to look because it's bad enough to realize that twenty thirty, 250 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:23.200 even forty years of your life was based on a lie. But the 251 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:26.799 older you get, the more I think difficult it is to cope with the 252 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:32.599 level of lie. And people are afraid. You know, you know, 253 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:34.880 it really does shake you to your core. But for me, and I'm 254 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:37.720 sure to a certain extent, it was you. You know, after you 255 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.359 deal with all the emotions and everything else, there there's a certain level of 256 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.680 freedom, right yeah. And you know I've heard you say you didn't sleep 257 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:52.680 for two weeks, and I I didn't not sleep, but I didn't know 258 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.640 which way was up and which way was down for at least a few days. 259 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.839 And I I'm not someone that has ever been manic in my and I 260 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.960 had a few days where I felt manic, you know, like I couldn't 261 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:08.400 control the thoughts racing through my head. I wanted it, to just talk 262 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:12.319 about it NonStop. I wanted to share it with everyone, and I was 263 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:18.200 definitely not myself, and I think unfortunately I pushed some people away because of 264 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:22.799 how much I wanted to share this with the people around me that I care 265 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:26.160 about. And I'm working on that. I'm trying to get better. I'm 266 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:30.519 trying to you know, if people ask me not to share, I don't 267 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.680 share anymore, at least for most of them. I'm having a hard time 268 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.920 doing that with my brothers and my mom still, just because you know them 269 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:41.839 more than anybody. I want to see this. But it definitely went about 270 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.000 it the wrong way at first. I didn't do the old George leave some 271 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:51.319 breadcrumbs for him. Yeah, but that's a hard thing to do when you're 272 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:53.720 passionate about something, whether it's baseball. You know, when you're hanging out 273 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:56.599 with some guys and you're all sharing a passion, you just want to talk 274 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.240 about it, and you want to talk about it. And that's I think 275 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.279 one of the most difficult things of being a truther. Moreover, in a 276 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:08.680 family or a circle of friends who don't see the same things you do. 277 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:12.359 I'm very like my wife, She's one hundred percent on board with everything, 278 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:18.000 but you know, with extended family, it's it's stilly Uncle George, right, 279 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:22.039 but to a certain extent, so I almost I don't mean to be 280 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:23.680 over dramatic, but I kind of feel like a fraud because when I'm hanging 281 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.359 out with people, you know, I feel like I have to talk about 282 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:30.720 things that may be of a mild interest, but I don't get a chance 283 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.960 to talk about what I'm passionate about. And I think, again, going 284 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:37.559 back to having this blessing of this podcast, where I can actually sit down 285 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:41.839 and talk to people, it's very therapeutic. I could not agree with you 286 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:45.319 more. I'm someone that has never liked small talk, and there's a big 287 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.920 part of me now that feels like everything is small talk except this. And 288 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:53.279 I'm sure that will dissipate at you know, the further away I get from 289 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:59.799 my moment of kind of seeing everything, it's still very fresh. But I 290 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.480 think, exactly like you said, when I'm in a social setting, or 291 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.400 if I were to go to school and I'm not talking about It's almost like 292 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:08.640 I'm being a fraud. Like you said, I'm not being my true, 293 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:12.039 authentic self because it's really all I want to talk about at the moment. 294 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:18.039 Yeah, I'll tell you. And the thing that bothers me the most, 295 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:23.759 Tyler is that how people can't see after what we just went through the last 296 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.720 three years, how quickly, like I think everybody got a glimpse and they 297 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:30.839 understood the level of evil they're dealing with, but everybody was so quick to 298 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:37.039 go back inside their shell and just go back to living. And I guess 299 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.559 that bothers me a lot that people are still unwilling to see after everything that 300 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.440 we went through. When they told you you were not essential, when they 301 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:47.000 told you if you don't get a job, you lose your job. I 302 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.000 mean, how what else do you have to go through you for you not 303 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:55.599 be willing to pursue the truth? Yeah, And that frustrates me a lot, 304 00:22:55.640 --> 00:23:00.400 because I truly feel like, specific to flat Earth, if people would 305 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:06.240 give it two or three hours and just sit and you know, I think 306 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:10.039 one of the things that makes it difficult is there is such good censorship of 307 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:12.240 it. And I didn't realize that at first, and you know, the 308 00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:17.599 first twenty things on Google are going to come up and make flat earthers look 309 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:21.799 dumb. Same with YouTube, and so it is difficult. But if you 310 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:26.799 were you know, I think most people that I am trying to share this 311 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.799 information with, I am willing and able to provide them with some good information, 312 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.160 good links, but no one even wants to take the time. And 313 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:40.240 I just can't understand that mindset because I feel like, if you know, 314 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:45.119 friends, loved ones, family members were coming up to me and could see 315 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.359 how much I cared about how much I'm sorry, how much, if I 316 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:51.880 could see how much they cared about it, I would give the time of 317 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.240 day and I would be like, I'm going to sit down and listen. 318 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:56.559 I might not agree, i might not see it, but I'm going to 319 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:02.119 give you every chance to talk to me and show me what you're talking about. 320 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.440 And I'm just not even experiencing that. And again, part of that 321 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:10.160 could be because at first I was pushing it on them instead of you know, 322 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:15.000 coming up too many rational calm mindset and saying, hey, I think 323 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.759 that Earth might be flat. You know, yeah, but you can't fault 324 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:23.440 somebody for And again in hindsight. You know, hindsight is twenty twenty. 325 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.960 But at the same time, and I felt the same thing. You know 326 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:30.640 me, You've known me for X amount of years. I'm not an a 327 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.839 rational guy. So if I bring something up that, sure, maybe a 328 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:37.960 fringe topic. But if I've taken the time, uh, you know, 329 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:41.559 and you know the common response I got. I don't need to bounce around. 330 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:45.160 But so you sat down and watched two YouTube videos, and now that 331 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.880 you believe in flat earth. Then it was kind of slapping the face to 332 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:53.400 me because I literally I was reading books, I was researching, I was 333 00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:57.160 doing you know, obviously we could see too far, one thing after another 334 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:04.720 and then the whole again, the stairway of ascension to finally understanding, well, 335 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:11.880 gee, did they really lie about everything except insert ninety three million miles 336 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.880 sixty six thousand spinning and everything else that goes into it. And it just 337 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.799 kind of it completed that the you know, you see the dot connecting on 338 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:23.759 the boards of the in the movies of the crazy conspiracy theorists, Well, 339 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:27.440 for me, that was the last dot connected, and I realized that everything 340 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.920 is connected. Yeah, that was it was mine too. It was the 341 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:37.000 last one I got to and exactly what you said is. I've had so 342 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.000 many people, family members specifically, say well, you saw that on TikTok, 343 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:44.440 so you believe it, And I'm like, no, of course I 344 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.880 didn't just see it on TikTok, and I believe it. TikTok, will 345 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:51.599 you know, give me an idea and then I will go research it as 346 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:56.079 much as I can and further it and drive three hours to see the Chicago 347 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:02.440 skyline across Lake Michigan and do some very extensive research to then believe that it's 348 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:06.200 not just oh TikTok said it, it's the truth. And I think, 349 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:08.319 you know, I've heard you guys talked about it on other episodes, But 350 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:17.079 TikTok perplexes me because it does not seem to be censored like a lot of 351 00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:22.119 other things, especially around flat Earth. And you know, I've seen something 352 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.200 like it was maybe one of the leading search things on TikTok with over three 353 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:32.319 point two billion views, and from my perspective, it's very clear that's a 354 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:34.279 big part of the reason they are trying to ban it in the US. 355 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:40.319 But what I can't rep my head around is that, you know, if 356 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.200 my belief and I'm pretty sure yours is. You know, Russia is the 357 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.079 same as China, as the same as US. They're not these different governments. 358 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:52.680 They're all controlled by the same elite Satanic people. And what I can't 359 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.880 figure out is how they haven't been able to control TikTok yet. Yeah. 360 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:02.400 That is interesting, isn't it. Yeah, And it truly seems like it's 361 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:07.680 not censored. Like you know, I searched flat Earth on Instagram or YouTube 362 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:12.480 or Google, and it's everything that comes up is, well, the flat 363 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:18.000 earthers think that the Earth is a disk and water falls off of it and 364 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:19.880 you can fall off the edge. And I'm like, no, that's clearly 365 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:23.319 not we think. But then you go to TikTok and there's a lot of 366 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:30.960 you know, really smart, intelligent people posting credible things, and somehow that's 367 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.519 not taken down. It just it confuses me. I don't know why. 368 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.880 Yeah, and that's a great point. And I get people telling me all 369 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:37.839 the time, you need to go on TikTok, you need to go on 370 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.960 TikTok because it's not and I know the second i'd do that, they'll change 371 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.839 their platform. But it is it's interesting. I've interviewed a lot of people 372 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:52.400 on both podcasts who've had success on TikTok. So maybe it is something I 373 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:53.759 should take the time to look into. I will tell you just as we're 374 00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:57.000 talking. I'd like to do this. Google and YouTube are the worst. 375 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:02.559 So I just put in the words flat earth into YouTube hit enter. The 376 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:06.599 very first video is debunking flat Earth and forty five seconds, and then the 377 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:11.240 next one is inside a flat Earth convention where nearly everyone believes the Earth isn't 378 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.920 round, and it is mockery after a mockery. This one is three scientists 379 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:21.599 school flat earth ors on the evidence, and of course Neil de grass Tyson 380 00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:26.759 and Bill Nye are are involved, So you're right. And again, whatever 381 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.720 I'm looking into it, whether it be JFK Oklahoma City nine to eleven. 382 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:37.039 When when you see the propaganda in the first part of the search engine, 383 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:41.680 you know you're onto something. If you're catching flak, you know you're you're 384 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.119 over your target. And that's what I've been saying on Instagram is you know, 385 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.000 I've been making these posts about the moon landing or different things, and 386 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.799 I'll get fact checked, and you know, people say, isn't it telling 387 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.079 you something? That you're getting fact checked, and I'm like, actually, 388 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.400 yes it is, but it's telling me something very different than what you think. 389 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.200 It's time me. It's actually telling me this is what's true. And 390 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.119 they didn't want this getting out versus the fact that it's fact check and pulse. 391 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.480 And it's just funny how they use fact checks and how people just see 392 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.759 that and we'll say, oh, this, it's got to be false. 393 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:18.680 It's fact checks. I made a little video on Instagram. I think it 394 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.319 was Instagram, No, it was Rumble and for the Flat Earth Channel, 395 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:29.480 and it was the guy in Canada what the heck isnt Trudeau? He was 396 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.960 at a fire station and he brought up flat earthers and compared anti vaxxers to 397 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.440 flat earthers. And I made a little video about it. And one of 398 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.079 the comments was a woman from Canada. She said, I never believe flat 399 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.039 earth, but your video got fact checks, so it must be true and 400 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.599 if Trudeau is talking against it, then it must be true. So I 401 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:53.400 thought that was great. Yeah one percent. Tell us a little bit about 402 00:29:53.400 --> 00:30:00.319 your journey to the truth where it all started. Well, I you know, 403 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:06.119 I for probably thirteen years, I knew nine to eleven wasn't what it 404 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:11.160 was. And I good, so long ago, maybe twenty ten, maybe 405 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.279 twenty eleven, maybe even before that. I just went deep dive in nine 406 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:22.119 to eleven and just saw so many things that didn't make sense with you know, 407 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.759 the Pentagon and the missile shaped hole in it with no plane debris and 408 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.519 things like that, and actually came across this one video that it was a 409 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:37.720 three parter and it talked about the three different ways that the the towers could 410 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.599 have come down, and you know, the first one was that it was 411 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:47.400 actually the plane caused enough heat to you know, bend and melt and everything 412 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.319 and it collapsed on its own. And then the second one was there was 413 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.640 explosives in there and it looked like a free fall demolition. And then the 414 00:30:55.720 --> 00:31:00.319 third one, which actually after watching it made the most sense. The way 415 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.240 they did it was something about and at the time I had never heard about 416 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.359 it, but it was called they said it was a directed energy weapon for 417 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.519 a free energy weapon, and this was, you know, thirteen years ago, 418 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.119 and I remember at the time, I was like, I don't know 419 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.440 what that is, never heard of it, but the way they talked about 420 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.960 it and the way they demonstrated. I was like, I actually think that's 421 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.599 what did it? You know? And then I come to find out that 422 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.799 there was a woman Judy would I believe her name is. She wrote a 423 00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.599 whole book on nine to eleven was a directed energy weapon that brought it down 424 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:40.319 and had all these presentations on it, and I truly believe back then that's 425 00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.160 what it was, and then asked for it many years and I'm looking for 426 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.279 that stuff again because I'm trying to show it to other people, and that 427 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.559 directed energy stuff was gone, that was nowhere to be found. I looked 428 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.640 for hours for that video. There was no sign of it, and that 429 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.680 kind of further confirmed like the you know, the whole check thing is, 430 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.480 Wow, maybe that did actually have something to do with the towers coming down. 431 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:08.720 So nine to eleven was the truth to me. You know that it 432 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:15.119 wasn't done the way it was for a long time, but I somehow never 433 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:20.559 got into different things I've been. You know, I'm a pretty busy guy 434 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:24.680 as far as distracting myself, and I don't mean that always necessarily in a 435 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.960 bad way, but I teach. I'm a strength and conditioning teacher. I 436 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:36.559 coach, I've coached track and weightlifting, shot put in discus. When I'm 437 00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:42.480 not coaching or teaching, I'm superactive with fitness. I compete in CrossFit. 438 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:47.960 So for listeners that don't know what CrossFit is, it is basically a It 439 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.839 can be a sport or an exercise philosophy, but it combines weightlifting, gymnastics, 440 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.279 and partio vascular. So there's always something to be getting better at, 441 00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:00.680 you know. So you can be working under strength, you can be working 442 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.960 on your running, viking, swimming, you can be working on things like 443 00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.759 hand stand walks. So in my free time, I was putting forth a 444 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:13.119 lot of effort to getting better at those physical activities. And then you know, 445 00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.720 I liked hanging out with friends and family. I was obsessed with football 446 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.480 and fantasy football and things like that. So I just never really got to 447 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.559 a point where I wanted to look into things more or felt like I needed 448 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:30.039 to. I've never been a political person. I've never you know, I 449 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.400 voted one time, and it was for Obama just because I at the time 450 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.720 I kind of thought it would be I thought that was a historical race just 451 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:43.319 because of Obama being black, and I wanted to be part of that and 452 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.880 support that and so I voted for him without much knowledge of either of the 453 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.519 parties. And I've always been the person that has said, you know, 454 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.559 I don't really think my life has impacted that much by who wins the president. 455 00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.160 Like for forty years, I was like, maybe my taxes go up 456 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.559 a little, maybe they don't, but I don't really feel like my life 457 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.639 has impacted. So I just didn't pay attention. It wasn't something I was 458 00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:15.199 interested in, wasn't something I cared about, and so for many many years 459 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:22.119 I didn't dig into different holes. And then around March, for whatever reason, 460 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:28.199 I really wanted just out of nowhere kind of. I guess part of 461 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:32.639 it was my dog was was getting older and I knew his time was coming 462 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:38.159 here. And for some reason that prompted me to watch some near death experience 463 00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:44.719 videos a lot of people that were experiencing the same thing with the near death 464 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:51.199 experience, and you know, somehow that led me into digging into aliens a 465 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.199 little bit, and I was like, well, clearly there are aliens. 466 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.599 We live in this galaxy with you know, billions and billions of stars and 467 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.960 billions and billions of planets, and it's endless and black holes and you know, 468 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.239 an endless space, there has to be aliens, and you know, 469 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.079 you always hear about Area fifty one and things like that, so I wanted 470 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:14.760 to dig in and that. So I don't know, between the alien thing 471 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.599 and the near death thing, it just kind of led me into some different 472 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:25.440 videos, into some different what I thought at the time were truths and kind 473 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:32.840 of made me curious. So got into some different things where I, for 474 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:37.880 example, at one point, I was sure the Moon was hollowed. You 475 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.480 know, I knew the I didn't ever really look too deep into the moon 476 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.559 landing that I had watched. It's a YouTube channel called the Wi Files, 477 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:53.320 and they've got a whole bunch of things on just all sorts of different conspiracies 478 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:58.960 or you know, things like the Pyramids and circle of things like that. 479 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.119 And so I was convinced the moon was was hollow, that it was maybe 480 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.719 a base or a space station and hollow. And then you know, I 481 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:15.159 was also very convinced that there was a reptilian race on the planet. Super 482 00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:21.400 convinced to that because I found all sorts of crazy videos of and you and 483 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:25.400 I have talked about this, but holographic technology that seemed to be failing as 484 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.480 I was watching it in slow motion, and so I went down these rabbit 485 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:37.440 holes and really thought I knew some things, and then when I got to 486 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.519 flat Earth, I realized there were some there were some truths behind what I 487 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.679 had found, you know, like there was abnormalties to the Moon, but 488 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.639 it wasn't that it was hollow. It was that it's not even landable, 489 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:51.920 you know, it's not a giant rock that you can land on. And 490 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.599 when I got to flat Earth, it kind of is like the once you 491 00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.199 get to that lie, all the other lies become clear and you see that 492 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.599 the things they were live had lies about lies about you can figure out and 493 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:12.159 kind of decipher or discern what the actual actual truths are. And we can 494 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:15.239 get into how I actually caught the flatters, but just kind of wanted to 495 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:20.400 give you my my travel or how I got to starting to look into things. 496 00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:23.519 Yeah, that's really interesting, and I've never heard of this, the 497 00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:27.320 Y Files, but I'm looking at it. They've got a huge audience. 498 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.239 I've got two an a half million subscribers. They talk about, like you 499 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:36.679 said, everything from Life after Death, speaking with the Dead. But it's 500 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.559 interesting. It looks like that touch on everything. In one episode they talk 501 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:45.079 about UFOs and then they talk about Stanley Kubeck's Kubrick's greatest film, The moon 502 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.639 Landing, So well, that one that is the one that showed me that 503 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:52.400 that that the Y Files is. They're part of the club. You know, 504 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:58.599 they're the they're there to deceive you, because there were things with the 505 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.679 Stanley Krubrick Like they go in there and they debunked that that's actually Stanley Kubrick. 506 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:06.599 They say it's not him, and you know, they got some body 507 00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.719 double, but it is very clearly him. You know, you can you 508 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.920 can go in and you can look and Stanley Kubrick has a very distinctive mole 509 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:21.039 under his left eye, and you can you can compare that to any picture 510 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.679 of him ever, and and it is him. And he said NASA ca 511 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.760 him to him and NASA asked him to take the moon landings. Not only 512 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.199 did they ask him, but they told him that can't get to the moon. 513 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.760 It's not something you can get to because of the firmament. So WI 514 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.960 Files, I thought was great. They fooled me for a little while, 515 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.440 shame on me. But I got to the point where I know, I 516 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:50.400 would say probably nine percent of what they're doing is just trying to confuse people, 517 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.039 and that's interesting. And even without looking at any of their videos, 518 00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.800 to get to that level of subs, you'd have to be part of that. 519 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.920 And again no offense. I've never met these people, never watched one 520 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.920 video, but kind of the thing that I've always come to understand when you 521 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:12.480 get a crowd like that, especially when you look at the things that they're 522 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.639 talking about. For them not to get any strikes and to just be able 523 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.480 to post things, yeah, they either have to be exactly really really tiptoeing 524 00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.239 or part of the club one of the other for sure. And the guide 525 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:27.199 the I don't know which one it is. One of the episodes. The 526 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.760 host he does a good job, you know, like he's a good host. 527 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:37.440 He presents the information well unfortunately he's just a liar. But at the 528 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.239 end of one of them, he literally looks at the camera and he's talking 529 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:45.480 about you never know, you know, who's on the other side of the 530 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.079 team or who's who's giving you the truth. He's like, you know, 531 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.360 like you don't even know if I'm giving you the truth, and he kind 532 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.119 of like looks at the camera and like winks. And I'm like, I 533 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.639 need to look into this more. And that's when I started to really look 534 00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:02.840 into kind of see the deceit behind that channel. Yeah, and that's another 535 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.639 reason, like I will never come on here and say, don't listen to 536 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.719 this person, even though I think Alex Shones is controlled opposition, I won't 537 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:15.000 tell anybody not to listen to them, because they even they use these people 538 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.559 for disclosure as well. That's that's one of the tools they used for these 539 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.840 people. And it's Stanley Kubrick is a real interesting guy. Uh. You 540 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.159 know, he filmed Eyes Wide Shut and I have not I want to see 541 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.440 that. I have not seen that, but that was kind of the h 542 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.559 that, you know, Pizza Gate and and that type of stuff was really 543 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.400 the only thing I've kind of gotten into after flat Earth. But sorry, 544 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:42.079 I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, you're good. I think Eyes 545 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.360 Wide Shut had to do with a party that the Rothschild's had in like nineteen 546 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:52.840 seventy two, and it was a very long the original cut. It was 547 00:40:53.840 --> 00:41:00.039 the revisit of the Surrealist Ball of nineteen seventy two that was hosted by Baroness 548 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:07.880 Marie Helen Rothschild and her husband Guy at the Chateau de Feri and it's another 549 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:15.159 disclosure movie. They brought the Warner Brothers executives to this hotel for a private 550 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:21.599 filming. The movie ended, there was a huge argument between Stanley Kubrick and 551 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:27.599 the Warner Brothers executives. He went to bed and never woke up. He 552 00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:31.880 died on March seventh, nineteen ninety nine. And the interesting thing is his 553 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:37.000 biggest movie was two thousand and one, A Space Odyssey. And if you'd 554 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.239 take his date of death, which was March seventh, nineteen ninety nine, 555 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.960 and count the days to January first, two thousand and one, it's exactly 556 00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:47.559 six hundred and sixty six days. And getting back to the world never imagine 557 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.400 that. Yeah, and getting back to the rothschilds that that movie ended up 558 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.280 getting I think twenty eight minutes cut out of it. That he part of 559 00:41:55.320 --> 00:42:01.480 the argument was he he had what's called the control, that they have artistic 560 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:06.000 control or whatever. Yeah, right, and he said that you're not cutting 561 00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:07.599 it. He ended up dying and they cut like twenty eight minutes out of 562 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:15.039 that film. Yeah, it's it's crazy, you know, Like I don't 563 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.960 you know if I were to talk to anyone in my circle, any of 564 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.280 my friends, anyone I teach with, and I were to mention something about, 565 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:27.480 you know, a movie director getting killed because of you know, this 566 00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.599 type of stuff, they would think I was totally out of my mind. 567 00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.800 And it it happens all the time. Yeah, they say, just be 568 00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:37.920 quiet. Who are you picking for your fantasy football draft? Exactly, That's 569 00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:43.199 what they're mad him. I'm the commissioner of that, and I've decided not 570 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.760 to play this year, and people are looking at me like my head's spinning 571 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.400 around because for ten years, you know, I've loved the league and I've 572 00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.320 been super into it, and they just can't wrap their heads around why I'm 573 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.199 not into it to the point, you know, they think something's wrong with 574 00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:01.679 me, and I'm like, it's just not It's not important to me anymore. 575 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:07.159 And I'm sorry that that doesn't jive with how you know me and how 576 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:12.360 you feel. But I can't. I can't stay true to myself and I'm 577 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.280 not I don't want to just do it to appease people. So it's just 578 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:21.840 funny how people have literally contacted me or my wife and likes everything all right, 579 00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.519 Tyler's not playing fantasy football this year, like, like, that's the 580 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:29.400 big thing that's going on in my life. Yeah, it is interesting, 581 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:32.559 and even in reflection, a lot of the things that I do to appease 582 00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.559 others, you know, I try to draw online between you know, my 583 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.639 mom always told me when I was younger that if you spend your entire life 584 00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:45.400 trying to make others happy, you're going to end up being miserable. But 585 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.639 at the same time, I kind of give and take some because I do 586 00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:52.400 understand the importance to you know, my family members, even though it's not 587 00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.760 high up on the list with me. So I try to find a happy 588 00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:01.119 medium there. But you're right, you kind of go into it half hearted 589 00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:05.079 and you're doing something that you don't have your heart in. At the same 590 00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.800 time, you're like, well, yeah, it's a conundrum that I think 591 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.880 many of us in the truth community deal with for sure. For sure. 592 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.800 So what was We haven't even really talked about how I got the flat Earth 593 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:21.920 and it's kind of a crazy story. You go right ahead, Well, 594 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:27.519 kind of, as I mentioned earlier, I've been into the alien stuff and 595 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:35.039 I came across there were two people that I came across that both claimed to 596 00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:39.000 be remote viewers. One maybe you've heard of. His name is Ingo Swan. 597 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.559 He wrote a book and he supposedly worked with the government, and at 598 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:46.119 the time, you know, I was like, oh, well, this 599 00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:51.320 guy was so good at remote viewing that the government even even hired him. 600 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:55.280 And he was able to predict the rings around Mars. And suppose I guess 601 00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:59.480 there are rings around Mars. You know, I didn't know that, but 602 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.280 suppose Leonessa's world there are rings that around Mars. And he was able to 603 00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:07.440 predict that ten years before they even had the technology to go to Mars. 604 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.480 So that was kind of I was like, oh, if you predicted that 605 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.639 before they could even go, that's got to be true. So I was 606 00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.719 believing in these remote viewers a little bit, you know, because the government 607 00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.800 had hired them. You know, I know, now total nonsense, but 608 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.599 I believed in that remote viewer. And then there was another one on YouTube. 609 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:32.719 Her name was Elizabeth April, and they, you know, one Ingo 610 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:38.280 Swan talked about the moon a lot. Elizabeth April talked about she had some 611 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:44.960 information about, you know, different beings coming down to the planet, specifically 612 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:50.920 reptilians and things like that, and you know, I you know, at 613 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:52.760 that same time, there was a lot of stuff in the news with the 614 00:45:52.880 --> 00:46:00.599 UAPs and the Navy officers literally showing things that did not seem like it could 615 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:04.519 be a CGI so and going into the water and going under the ground, 616 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:08.559 and so in my mind, I'm thinking, Okay, this technology has to 617 00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:13.480 exist because I you know, I can tell what's CGI and what's not for 618 00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:17.400 the most part, and I'm both starting to really believe that not only are 619 00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:22.079 there aliens, but they're here. They might be living under the ground, 620 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.239 they might be living in the oceans, things like that. Then I came 621 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:32.480 across doctor Stephen Greer, who he is, you know, someone that's talked 622 00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:37.199 for many, many years about how they've reverse engineered UFOs and they're here, 623 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:45.800 and there are aliens and you can not only see them, but you can 624 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:51.880 communicate with them. So here app where you can go through this meditation and 625 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:58.480 do these things where you can literally kind of call you know, some sort 626 00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:04.480 of UAP or UFO into your vision at night and see. So I try 627 00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.920 it. You know, I'm not buying into it. I'm like, Okay, 628 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.480 there's no chance I'm going to sit here and do this medicine or meditation 629 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:16.400 and play this. You know, they had certain frequency tone that they played. 630 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:22.039 Did it didn't? You know, Like I tried to put my mind 631 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.800 and meditation into a good spot where you know, we said, just thing 632 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:32.360 positive and try to do it. Nothing happened. And then maybe a month 633 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:37.760 later, for some reason, I was out at Pe with my students and 634 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.360 we were at the tennis courts and I I had kind of just started to 635 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:47.920 see a lot of different things that we're just making me feel like maybe this 636 00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.719 planet, maybe this place is a little different than we think. And I 637 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:59.599 started to do basically like a meditation or a you know, now I would 638 00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:01.719 look at it as a prayer, but I wasn't talking specifically to God. 639 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:06.559 It was more of a meditation saying if there is something out there in this 640 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.840 universe, if there is more to this physical world than I know, like, 641 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:14.199 let please show me. And I was kind of I was like, 642 00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.719 I'm coming from a place of positivity. I have love in my heart, 643 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.960 i have gratitude in my heart. And I'm walking and literally walking around the 644 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.840 task court while my students were playing, and I just see this object in 645 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:30.159 the distance and you know, it's kind of far and but it's coming towards 646 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.880 me, and it just keeps coming towards me. And I'm walking around and 647 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:38.840 like, I don't recognize that as any thing in the air of ever seen, 648 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:42.280 and it's getting closer, and I don't have my phone on me, 649 00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.119 so I'm I'm wondering what it is. I'm like, I need to get 650 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:49.639 a video of this so I can, you know, maybe zoom in or 651 00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:51.880 see what it is. And it just keeps coming towards me, keeps coming 652 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:57.400 towards me, and it looks like an orb and it's shiny, and it's 653 00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.400 pulsing. You know, it's not just a solid object. It is literally 654 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:07.400 pulsing where it's disappearing and appearing, disappearing and appearing. And I get to 655 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:08.880 my phone and I pull it out. In the second I pull it out, 656 00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:14.199 it doesn't disappear. I have a video of it, but it turns 657 00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:16.039 it was coming directly at me the whole time. As soon as I pick 658 00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:21.440 up my phone start recording, it changes directions and start going away from me. 659 00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:27.760 But it is something I've never seen at that point, and the best 660 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.920 thing I can do it is describe it as an orb of light. So 661 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:38.039 that just kind of blew my mind. And a week later, I was 662 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:43.840 outside and I share. I tried to share this with people, showed videos 663 00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.519 and even people were very skeptical of other things I had been sharing with. 664 00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:50.960 Okay, this is weird. I see this. I don't know what that 665 00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.679 is, but like, maybe you should share this with, you know, 666 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:58.199 the authorities, or see if there's some sort of like weather balloon testing in 667 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.280 the area or something like that. But anyway, a week goes by and 668 00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:06.320 I have this app that I always use and I just to kind of check 669 00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:10.519 out the stars. And it's called Starlight. I think you know. You 670 00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:15.840 can use it at night and you can find the stars you want. And 671 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:20.199 I'm outside of my front yard and I'm using it and I'm pointing at different 672 00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.639 stars and I get to this one star that's near O'riyan or near O'riyan's belt, 673 00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:29.760 and I'm moving and I've used this app one hundred times and I move 674 00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.280 it and the star follows me. And it's the star isn't actually following me 675 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.960 in the sky. I want to clarify that, but it will follow It's 676 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.239 following my cursor on the screen and it's never done that. So if I 677 00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.280 moved to the right. The star continues to follow to me the right. 678 00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.880 If I move up, it follows me up, same thing down. And 679 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:52.000 like I said, I used this app one hundred times, never had anything 680 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.199 happened like this. So I get my wife and have her come out. 681 00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:55.880 I was like, do you see this? And she's like, yeah, 682 00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:00.199 that's pretty weird. So I screen recorded it just because it was. It 683 00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.599 was weird to me and I had had that experience the week earlier, was 684 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.880 something in the sky, so I just wanted to investigate it more was that 685 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:12.400 did you happen to look it up because somebody else? I think I've gotten 686 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:16.480 one or two emails over the past year about a certain star in that area 687 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:21.000 of Orion. I think it's actually called Beetle Juice, but it's spelled like 688 00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.880 b et e l g e usc. I pronounce it beetle juice. Maybe 689 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:29.400 it's matel geese or something like that. But it looks like, no, 690 00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.840 no, I know that star. It's not that it's not that star. 691 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:36.159 But I'll get to what star it is in a second. It's kind of 692 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:40.119 part of the cool story, alrighty. So anyway, I screen recorded it 693 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:44.400 and I didn't go back to it, but a couple until a few days 694 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.760 later and I'm looking at it and I'm you know, it's just looks like 695 00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:52.119 a piece of it looks like a star, but it's the phone app, 696 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.800 you know. I'm not it's not actually the star that was moving, but 697 00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:59.480 I'm looking at it, and every once in a while it would kind of 698 00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:04.719 like pulse and get bigger and then shrink back down and then on the screen 699 00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:07.119 recording, and I was like, why is it doing that? And so 700 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:13.119 I increased the size of it, and and it was you could see it 701 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:16.320 was pulsing. And not only was it pulsing, but it looked like it 702 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:20.199 was rotating. So I increased it more, and it looked like it was 703 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:24.559 something that was just changing images all the time, like the image was going 704 00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:29.320 through something like a different image every half a second, different image every half 705 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:30.119 a second. And then the more I looked at it, the more it 706 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:35.239 looked like dog faces. It looked like, you know, like images of 707 00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:39.679 dogs. And actually, very specifically, it looked like I have at the 708 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:44.559 time, I had four golden doodles, and it just it literally looked like 709 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.719 golden doodles. And I'm and I'm like, what is this? I don't 710 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:53.119 understand is this like was it pulling pictures somehow from my phone and like putting 711 00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:57.480 it in this star? So I I don't know. I asked my wife. 712 00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.199 I was like, do you see dog faces in this? She was 713 00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:01.840 like, yeah, actually I do. She's like, she's like, it 714 00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:06.519 kind of looks like and we listed off she listed off the dog names and 715 00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:08.039 I was like, yeah, okay, like I'm not crazy, so that 716 00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:09.960 you see that. She's like, yeah, for sure, it looks like 717 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:14.480 talk. So again, I don't think anything of it for another few days, 718 00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.679 and I'm sitting in my school at like six in the morning on an 719 00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:22.880 exercise bike, and for some reason it just crosses my mind. I'm like, 720 00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.559 I wonder what that star was, and I like never looked it up. 721 00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:30.280 And I went and I looked up the location because I knew it was 722 00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:34.079 right by O'Ryan, and I could tell what it was and it was serious, 723 00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.039 and I looked into Sirius and I was like, the first thing that 724 00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:42.480 had said about Sirius or serious however you say it was serious, is known 725 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.519 as the dog Star. And I was like what. I was like, 726 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:50.519 this just blew my mind like that I some this thing was following me on 727 00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:52.440 my phone that I've never had happened before. I looked into it a few 728 00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.519 days later, saw dogs, had no idea it was the dog Star, 729 00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:01.039 and then looked further into it, and it's just I was like, what 730 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:06.119 is going on? Was this some sort of like divine intervention that I was 731 00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:12.400 supposed to see dogs in this star? So hopefully I'm not losing it yet, 732 00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.679 because I know this is kind of a no, you're coming hard to 733 00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:24.480 believe interesting thing, all right? So from there I start getting into like 734 00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:28.400 flat Earth? Is there a little bit like on the fringe. I hadn't 735 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.920 really looked at it too much. But then what I decided to do is 736 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:39.280 look at Sirius through amateurs telescopes and amateurs nikon p. Nine hundreds or p. 737 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:43.440 Nine thousands, and I did the same thing. I did a screen 738 00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:49.039 recording, and I looked at it. And you know, anyone who's ever 739 00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:52.960 seen what an actual star looks like through a telescope or you know, high 740 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:57.559 magnification, it's not a giant ball of gas billions of miles away. It 741 00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:02.199 looks like it's a light shimmering in water. And every little flicker and shimmer 742 00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:08.079 was a dog face, and every single one I saw a dog and I 743 00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:12.320 would go frame by frame and it'd be a different dog, a different dog, 744 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:15.159 a different dog, and it was blowing my mind. I was like, 745 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:20.119 okay, I was like, stars are actually angels of dogs. I 746 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.519 was like, that's when dogs die, they go up into the stars, 747 00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:27.559 and those are you know, all those stars are just angels of dogs. 748 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.880 And I was like, dog is God spelled backwards? And I was sure 749 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:35.239 of it. And then I, you know, so I was one. 750 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:39.039 I was thinking this is crazy too. I hadn't really realized at that point 751 00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:44.599 that stars weren't balls of gas. So I was like, what, like, 752 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.159 what's going on? Trying to make sense of it, And like I 753 00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:51.280 said, at the same time, I was starting to get into some flat 754 00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:55.880 earth stuff, you know. I had looked at Polaris, but it's just 755 00:55:55.960 --> 00:56:01.000 the location of it, and things were I was very confused, you know, 756 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:06.599 and I didn't know what to think of all of it, and but 757 00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:10.159 I knew stars weren't what they had told us. And I also had looked 758 00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:15.639 into Polaris and used that same same star finder app. And after I had 759 00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:20.920 heard of like someone saying on Polaris the fact that it never moves. When 760 00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:22.880 I heard I think I heard that from a TikTok video. I used that 761 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:28.440 starfinder app and I sat down in a seat right in my backyard, made 762 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:30.559 sure it was in the exact same spot, took a screenshot where it was, 763 00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:35.599 waited a couple of hours, same thing. Polaris didn't move. Next 764 00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.880 day, it didn't move. I was like, just from that, I 765 00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.559 was like, I think the Earth might be flat. I was like, 766 00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.880 I was like, these are just two weird of things. And then I 767 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:49.039 went on Google and looked up the Polaris why it doesn't move, And of 768 00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:52.039 course at the time I didn't know Google was just going to give you something 769 00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:57.159 to make you realize that, oh, Polaris just happens to be at the 770 00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:00.599 exact center of Earth's roope orbit and so far away that it wouldn't look like 771 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:05.760 it moved. So I kind of like it fooled me and I just kind 772 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:10.000 of lost scheme with it. But I was still stuck on the dogs in 773 00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:19.519 star Step and then did some other investigating on some other things, looking into 774 00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:27.000 NASA, looking at all their lives, and then I ended up looking at 775 00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:32.280 the James Webb first image from Space and I looked at it. And when 776 00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:35.559 I first looked at it, I literally said, I was like, this 777 00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.719 is a cartoon. This can't be real. This is CGI. It's cartoon. 778 00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:45.840 So I was zooming in on it, and as I zoomed in and 779 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.559 I was kind of strolling around it, I just kept seeing little images of 780 00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:53.719 dogs all over the place. And you know, like it's not it's not 781 00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:58.519 so clear that you just look at it, but if you were, if 782 00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:01.360 you go in and you were looking for dogs, you are going to find 783 00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:07.800 thirty or forty dog images in that picture, and not just like, oh, 784 00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:12.800 that could be a dog, Like you actually see that there is someone 785 00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:20.639 putting purposeful dogs into NASA images. It's in there, CG clouds, it's 786 00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:22.440 in there. It's in everything they do. And you know, I think 787 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:29.159 I had emailed you that I had kind of come to the realization that dogs 788 00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:34.360 are, for some reason, a sign that they put in all their lives. 789 00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:43.800 The submarine that imploded a few weeks back, I found some dogs kind 790 00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:50.920 of in the sidewall of that, and they're they're just literally in everything that's 791 00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:54.320 connected to some sort of lie that the powers that be are putting out there. 792 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:57.760 It's almost like they're I think, I told you, it's like their 793 00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:02.480 poker tell It's like when Teddy agb is eating oreos and the movie rounders, 794 00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:07.360 and you know, you know he's bluffing because of the way he eats his 795 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:12.639 oreos. It's if you can find dog imagery in some sort of picture, 796 00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:17.480 you can maybe clue yourself into some of the lives of the world. So 797 00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:22.400 once I found dogs in other places other than the stars, I really kind 798 00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:27.960 of opened my eyes to the flat earth, opened my eyes to the to 799 00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:32.000 the fact that, as crazy as it sounds, that I think there's a 800 00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:39.199 chance that the night sky and a lot of the stars are holographically put up 801 00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:44.320 there. And I know that, you know, that goes against a lot 802 00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:47.239 of what the Bible says, and I'm a firm believer of flat earth in 803 00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:52.400 the biblical sense. But when I looked further into that, what it what 804 00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:57.559 I found was a lot of times the stars are mentioned in the Bible. 805 00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:00.679 It's an afterthought, so it will say, you know, and I please 806 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.840 I'm not quoting exact, but you know, God made two great lights, 807 01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:10.960 the moon and the sun, and the stars, or also the stars. 808 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.800 There's always the stars are included as an afterthought, And there's a big part 809 01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:22.639 of me that wonders if that is just kind of our captors, as you 810 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:28.880 will, if they have projected those stars into the sky as part of the 811 01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:36.320 deceit of space, because lord knows, they're pushing the aliens in the space 812 01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:38.760 very hard. So I don't know, I just said a mouthful. I'm 813 01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:43.039 sorry. I'll give you a chance to respond. And like I've told you 814 01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.320 before, I it's a lot of information and a lot of happenings that have 815 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:51.800 happened the past few months. So it doesn't all get I don't It doesn't 816 01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:55.639 come out all smoothly sometimes No, no, no, it's you articulated everything 817 01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.800 very well. And I do believe there's a lot of folks going back to 818 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:05.440 you know, talking about nine to eleven who believe that the planes were were 819 01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:08.480 holographic, and there's obvious I've always said that, you know, we're light 820 01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:15.880 years The technology we have today has been around for a long time. We 821 01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.519 went when it comes to retail, when we get our hands on technology, 822 01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.000 it's it's been around for at least fifty years, oh yeah, And I 823 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:25.960 honestly think maybe even more like three hundred. Yeah, you can go back 824 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.239 to the church sharings back in the seventies and see what the technology they had 825 01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:35.599 back then, and obviously they had that, you know, forever. But 826 01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:39.719 if you say, let's say the stars are holographic, where would the source 827 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:44.079 be coming from? And in this case, who do you think they are 828 01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:49.519 the people who are controlling the holograph It's a good question, you know. 829 01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:52.840 I don't know. I have a better answer to one of those questions than 830 01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:59.760 to the other. I think I don't know if the moon could be part 831 01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:04.239 of projecting the holograms. And I don't know, if you know, maybe 832 01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:07.039 there are some real stars up there, maybe God did create some, and 833 01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:12.400 maybe there are a whole lot up there projected more than God actually created to 834 01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:17.199 give the illusion of infinite space. But I don't know. The moon. 835 01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:21.880 Potentially, if Polaris is always sitting right there at the center, maybe that 836 01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:28.000 could be part of the projection. I did see one. I've seen one 837 01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:31.519 thing one time ever and I never could find it again on TikTok who someone 838 01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:38.360 else who actually had a very similar theory is mine and I saw that his 839 01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:42.679 theory of it after I had it, So it was kind of cool to 840 01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:45.719 see someone else that I literally thought that was the only person in the world 841 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:52.639 that that thought this. And but there's I'm trying to remember where they thought 842 01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:58.400 the you know, lack of a better word, projector could be coming from. 843 01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:00.880 But I don't know. I don't aim to know that. I just 844 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:06.760 know that if any single person that's listening to this wants to go find any 845 01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:12.079 star on YouTube that is zoomed in from a nikon camera or a high powered 846 01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:15.880 telescope, one that is not NASA, or one that does not have a 847 01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:22.480 million followers, and if you screen record it and you go shot by shot 848 01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:28.920 or frame by frame by frame, it is almost impossible, at least after 849 01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:30.760 go if you go ten frames, because sometimes they're not clear, but after 850 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:35.400 ten, you're going to start to see a dog face after dog face. 851 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:39.440 Sometimes there's two dogs, sometimes there's three. It's there, and I know 852 01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:45.599 it sounds completely insane, but I've verified it over and over again. I've 853 01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:51.519 posted some pictures on my TikTok on that I can I can. I didn't 854 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:53.480 send you that, or you don't have that, but I can send you 855 01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:59.639 my screen name for that, George. It it's actually just it's a wake, 856 01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:03.639 not woke for anyone that wanted that, And I've posted like four things. 857 01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:06.599 I'm not on there a lot, but I just thought the star thing 858 01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:12.039 was too crazy to not share on some platform. I wasn't quite ready to 859 01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:15.679 let my crazy out of the bag on Instagram with that one yet, but 860 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:21.960 it's on my TikTok. Yeah. And then your other question is who would 861 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:28.719 be the powers that be? In my opinion that has changed. I definitely 862 01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:32.239 was of the mindset that there was either I think I mentioned this earlier, 863 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:36.440 but a reptilian race that we're either from different planets or they have been here 864 01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:43.519 for thousands of years just as a separate species. But once you come to 865 01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:47.000 flat Earth, you kind of realize that is that is not truth, and 866 01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:53.280 that there are that this place is a spiritual world, and there are good 867 01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:59.159 and bad spirits and some extremely demonic forces and beings that are on this planet 868 01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:04.519 or this plane, I guess, and they're the ones running the show. 869 01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:09.000 And you know, the big Honcho himself, I think Satan has a lot 870 01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:14.239 to do with it. Have you actually ever seen I just was watching Bob 871 01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:17.599 Dylan today talking about selling his soul to the I think he called him the 872 01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:21.280 Big Chief or something like that, the Big Yeah. He was sitting down 873 01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:27.559 with the guy from sixteen minutes. Yeah, yep, ye, actually yeah 874 01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:30.880 maybe. I actually think I heard that on this a few a few days 875 01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:33.280 ago and decided to look it up myself. So of course you've heard it. 876 01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:41.639 Yeah, And you know, anybody who is anybody I've learned, whether 877 01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.559 it be in movies, politics, music, to get to the top, 878 01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:48.199 if you really want to go to the top, you have to do like 879 01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:51.000 Bob Dylan did. And he admitted it on TV. I think that was 880 01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:55.119 in the mid two thousands, and he said, yeah, I'd just sell 881 01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:58.000 my soul to the Big Chief. And he even said, yeah, he 882 01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.079 couldn't do it today. He has no idea how he wrote those songs. 883 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.239 Yeah, And I you know, it's funny. I think back to my 884 01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:09.559 childhood and you know, my mom not wanting me to have like maybe Motley 885 01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:13.039 Crue or Guns and Roses albums and saying they worshiped the devil, and I'm 886 01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:16.119 like god like, and you know she was I don't think, you know, 887 01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:18.840 she thought they might actually worship the devil, but I don't think she 888 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:26.480 actually thought that was actually going on on a level of selling souls and that 889 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.800 the Devil is actually real and that that was going on. And I didn't 890 01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:32.079 have the time either. I just thought she didn't want negative influence in my 891 01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:36.119 life. But if you go and look, I mean, it is insane 892 01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:42.119 to see if you just go look for it, the amount of devil worship 893 01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.880 or Satan worship in Hollywood and they say it, you know, like Christian 894 01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:50.119 Bale thanking Satan for his role in some movie, or Red Hot Chili Peppers 895 01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:55.840 standing up in front of you know, the MTV Awards and saying thank you 896 01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:59.000 Satan. I mean, it's I used to just think it was like to 897 01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:03.360 be cool, and one hundred percent note it is because they are actually making 898 01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:11.079 deals with these Satanic beings or creatures or Satan himself and they need to do 899 01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:15.039 that to get ahead. And it's it's just insane. How I never for 900 01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:18.440 a second thought that was real for her forty two years of my life, 901 01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.199 and now I don't doubt it for a second, just like I don't I 902 01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:26.920 don't doubt God for a second anymore either. Indeed, And I don't know 903 01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:30.039 if it's just because of our age or because things have changed so much, 904 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.880 but into the seventies and eighties, things seemed more innocent, and I grew 905 01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:36.760 up at the same time with you, Like my mom didn't want me to 906 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:41.800 have the Quiet Riot and the Motley Crew and the Iron good good gracious when 907 01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:46.960 she saw the iron Maiden number of the Beast right, excuse me, But 908 01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:51.000 you know, from the eighties to today, at least then to some degree, 909 01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:55.639 they tried to hide the evil they would put. You know, they 910 01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:57.920 say, you could put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. 911 01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:00.880 But they did a clever job disguising it. But over the years they 912 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:04.760 don't even they don't disguise it anymore. You look at the opening of the 913 01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:09.719 I think it was called like the Goodwill Games or something from twenty eighteen. 914 01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:13.840 That ceremony was creepy. Then you look at this guy, Sam Smith. 915 01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:18.520 They're on stage wearing devil outfits. And many of these halftime shows have really 916 01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:23.920 evil kind and you know, really evil feel to them. And that's what 917 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.199 a lot of these things really are when you awake and you look at these 918 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:30.000 events. And that's one reason why I kind of tend to steer away from 919 01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:33.960 these things, because when you get a lot of people together like that, 920 01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:41.079 it almost becomes that like they're they're trying to harvest, like that that rapper 921 01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:45.520 in Houston where you had everybody who was vaccinated. You could only go to 922 01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:48.439 the concert if you were vaccinated, and as you entered the concert, it 923 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:53.279 was through an open mouth, which is kind of like a feast to Moloch 924 01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:56.840 type of vibe to it. There's certainly a level that they don't They're not 925 01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:00.239 even trying to hide it anymore. No, not at all. I mean 926 01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:03.359 it is right out on the open. And I really feel like though, 927 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:10.359 unless you have you know, for lack of a better term, unless you 928 01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:15.119 have that awakening, you see it and you just think like they're just you 929 01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:19.199 know, doing something fun or they're just messing around. It's not actual like 930 01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:25.079 Satan worship or devil worship. And you know because I you know, as 931 01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:28.159 early as six months ago, I would have seen something like that and just 932 01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:31.079 not thought twice about it. But then once you're awake and you see it, 933 01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:36.079 it is everywhere. And getting back to what you had mentioned earlier, 934 01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:45.159 the movie Rounders and Teddy was named Teddy KGB and he was you know, 935 01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:47.319 when he was bluffing the way he ate his oreos, and you had mentioned 936 01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:50.239 the same thing with the dogs. Could you expand on that just a little 937 01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:55.319 bit more about how that's the elites or the controller's way of tipping in their 938 01:09:55.359 --> 01:10:00.640 hat more than just like within the stars itself. Yeah, trying to think 939 01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:06.039 of where I where's the absolute first time I came across that. You know, 940 01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:11.920 I said it was the James Webb. Give me just one second, 941 01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:14.520 I'll see I wrote a few things down and maybe it was there. Yeah, 942 01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:18.399 James Webb, the guy who left NASA right before they went to the 943 01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:27.319 moon. Oh did he was it? He stepped down I think January of 944 01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.800 sixty nine. Okay, I didn't realize that. Yeah, And I cannot 945 01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.840 think of where I first saw it, But I and I don't know if 946 01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:39.159 I saw it in the stars first. I think I must have seen it 947 01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:44.680 in the stars first, because I and then the James Webb anyway, like 948 01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:49.960 it is, and I know it sounds ridiculous and I'm not unaware of that, 949 01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:55.960 but I have seen it in so many places where, you know, 950 01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:58.800 like going back to the submarine. As soon as I heard about that submarine, 951 01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:03.279 I was like, there is something evil about that that was done intentionally 952 01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:08.840 or it's a lie. And I went and I and I studied the video. 953 01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:11.560 There was a YouTube video or an Instagram post of you know, the 954 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:15.319 people on it, and there was a moment where one of the guys on 955 01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:18.199 the submarine like he's filming, you know, they're just having a good time. 956 01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.359 They're about to go down check out the Titanic or whatever it was. 957 01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:27.199 And they closed the door. And there's just like a moment or two that 958 01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:33.880 seemed intentional where they were focused on the submarine door and it was and it 959 01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:39.279 was very metallic looking the inside of it. And at this point I had 960 01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:41.520 already kind of been onto the dog thing, and I was like, I'm 961 01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:45.720 going to, you know, look to see this, and there were it's 962 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:47.680 you got to slow it down and you've got to be aware, but there 963 01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:57.199 are it's like almost if you were to have like images behind an image. 964 01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:00.199 It is. It's there, but it's so on and it's so hidden, 965 01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:03.680 and you have if you're not looking exactly for it, it's hard to see. 966 01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:09.640 But I found I have found it in so many things as recently as 967 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:16.520 Yahoo posted pictures of the clouds from the Lahina fire and they're like literally dogheads 968 01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:20.800 and I'm sorry, not the clouds the smoke from the Lahina fire, and 969 01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:25.439 there are pictures of dog faces there, And I don't know if it has 970 01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:31.159 to do with kind of you know, if we're showing them the animals they 971 01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:35.159 love most and we're putting it right in their face to make them see it 972 01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:39.720 that it's not going against their free will. It's kind of like we're showing 973 01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:43.359 you that we're lying. We're putting it in your face that there are your 974 01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:51.680 most beloved animal is in images of space or under the ground. And I 975 01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:55.560 don't know if it if it's kind of like a laugh on us, where 976 01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:58.840 they're just putting it there and laughing, or if it's like we need to 977 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:02.199 do that to kind of not impact their free will like they do with you 978 01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:04.800 know, putting it right in our face in movies and things like that, 979 01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:09.119 kind of like disclosure. That's like we told you that's our symbol. Yeah, 980 01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:11.720 exactly. Mentally, p Hall, you know who was the thirty third 981 01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:17.600 degree Freemason, he said how much symbology means to the elites and the people 982 01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:21.319 who are in the club. And he does say that once people figure out 983 01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:27.520 how to read the symbols and then and only then the great veil will fall 984 01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:32.680 from mankind's eyes. So and I I agree with that, and I'm starting 985 01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:38.079 to see them all over the place. And it's the dog thing is crazy 986 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:42.000 to me. I've seen it in the Tesla and Space. There's a just 987 01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:46.600 so people if they want to go check it out, there's a it's one 988 01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:50.439 of the main you know, I think it's probably maybe a minute or two 989 01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:56.000 video on YouTube. You can research the Tesla and Space and it is. 990 01:13:56.119 --> 01:13:59.640 You can see there should not be a reflection of anything, and there's on 991 01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:02.560 the wind shield. You know, they're showing the test Less supposedly floating in 992 01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:08.359 space and it's kind of maneuvering around a little and the camera's changing angles and 993 01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:14.439 in the windshield, do you see this reflection start to come up into the 994 01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:17.399 into the Tesla? And I mean, sure enough, it is. That's 995 01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:23.079 one of the clearest ones I've ever found. It as a dog's CGI imprint 996 01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:27.760 in the Tesla windshield. One of the ones we were you and I were 997 01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:30.640 not sure if it was before or once we started recording. But talking about 998 01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:38.239 David Ike, and he's big for your listeners, He's really big into you 999 01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:41.800 know, talking about reptilians and the matrix we live in and things like that, 1000 01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:45.399 and I was into him for a while, but I what I've come 1001 01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:48.479 to find and believe that I truly think he's kind of part of the club 1002 01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:58.800 too. And there was a video I was watching with him and it's his 1003 01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:01.840 name, Brian Rose. I think, yeah, yeah, do you know 1004 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:08.560 what I'm talking about? Okay, So they're talking and behind Brian Rose there's 1005 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:15.640 this giant flag and is he see England? Is he from England? He 1006 01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:19.199 certainly is, yes, Okay, so it's probably an English flag or British 1007 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:24.079 flag, And there's a lot of white in this flag, and and it 1008 01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:27.000 should just be white, there shouldn't be any sort of discoloration. And I 1009 01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:30.000 see discoloration. So I zoom in and what do I see? A bunch 1010 01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:32.840 of dog faces in it? And I show my wife. I was like, 1011 01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:34.840 do you see these dogs? And she's like, yeah, I do. 1012 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:39.920 I'm like, well, that is exactly like I thought I would find. 1013 01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:43.239 And then the end of the video, it's an Instagram video, they 1014 01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:47.239 go and they shake hands and again there's like a weird camera shot and they 1015 01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:51.239 just zoom in on their handshake, but right behind their handshake. There is 1016 01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:59.520 a giant metal dog statue that's like right in the film, like they're purposely 1017 01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:03.680 showing at instead of their handshake. And and I really like, I think 1018 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:08.159 this is I don't think many people know this, if any, And I 1019 01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:11.399 think it's something that I kind of wanted to get out there and see if 1020 01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:15.079 other people kind of started to look into it, if more people could see 1021 01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:20.640 it, because I truly think it's a way to kind of tip off the 1022 01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:25.800 lives of the world. And they've put it in so many things I couldn't 1023 01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:30.239 even list them all. That's interesting. Yeah, and that's the show they 1024 01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:32.039 do is called London Real. That's Brian, Yes, yes, yes, 1025 01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:34.439 that's it and David. I. Yeah, I haven't watched it in a 1026 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:40.159 while, but yeah they and again to two and a half million subscribers. 1027 01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:43.600 Well yeah, as soon as when I saw the London Real had one point 1028 01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:45.880 five or two and a half whatever it's at now, I was like, 1029 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.880 yeah, Like, he says a lot of good things, but you know, 1030 01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:53.399 I think the big thing he those guys are pushing is they'll say a 1031 01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:57.279 lot of things that you know, people like I like myself, like to 1032 01:16:57.319 --> 01:17:00.800 hear, like, you know, the vaccine was bad, vaccine was evil. 1033 01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.319 But their big agenda seems to be crypto. They seem to be wanting 1034 01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:06.359 to push crypto a lot, and that is that. I know there's a 1035 01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:10.479 lot of people that are excited about that, but man, once you lose 1036 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:14.680 control, and I'm someone who have personally been affected. I had my PayPal, 1037 01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:18.039 both my business and personal canceled because I dared to do an episode on 1038 01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:24.560 paper or black Rock and vand card and the next day I got a letter 1039 01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:28.920 from PayPal headquarters. A couple of days later and it's it's you know, 1040 01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:30.600 for me, it was personal. I'm like, dang, you know here 1041 01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:33.439 I am. I served my country proudly, this, that and the other 1042 01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:38.479 thing, fighting for my First Amendment rights, and just because I say something 1043 01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:42.920 that goes against the agenda, I'm deplatformed. I had to scramble to figure 1044 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:45.439 out a way to get paid for my ad revenue and everything else. And 1045 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:53.000 it's frightening. And I don't think people who haven't really had to go through 1046 01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:57.479 something like that, to have their bank taken from them, that their means 1047 01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:00.880 of income one, you know, one of the means of income, it's 1048 01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:08.119 you're you're officially in the war. You're officially in the spiritual war when you 1049 01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:14.600 were targeted, and that was over a year ago. And obviously there's another 1050 01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:17.239 wave coming. You know, we all got I had a YouTube channel and 1051 01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:21.000 I can't post anything anymore. Uh, it'll get pulled mid stream. They 1052 01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:25.920 don't don't even wait for me to finish streaming anymore. So it's important you 1053 01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:30.079 know these things we talk about and listen, uh, this podcast that everyone's 1054 01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:34.199 listening to. We may not agree on every single thing we're discussing, but 1055 01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:40.319 one thing we will all agree on is we are being deceived. Absolutely, 1056 01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:44.600 and it's I've heard you to say that they should down your paint down and 1057 01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:49.479 it's just it's unbelievable to me. And obviously I wish you nothing but continued 1058 01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.760 success and growth, but I don't want you to get to I'm a little 1059 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:55.640 worried for you. You're gonna get to a point you're too big, and 1060 01:18:55.680 --> 01:19:00.039 that they're gonna flow your whole this whole podcast. Well, that's why I 1061 01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:02.800 I keep the websites going if I if you know, there will there's a 1062 01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.720 lot of talk in the communities that there's going to be a podcast purge the 1063 01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:11.439 way there was a YouTube purge. That's why I keep that radio player on 1064 01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:14.319 the websites. I can stream live from there anytime I want, so I 1065 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:15.399 could leave a note on the website, Hey, I'm gonna go to live 1066 01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:19.000 tonight at eight pm tonight, and then I have ham Radio. I can 1067 01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:23.840 buy time with w c QB and I can stream from there. You know, 1068 01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:28.359 fifty thousand plot tower that There's lots of other backups, but obviously the 1069 01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:33.119 logistics get more difficult. But it's amazing how you could you know people on 1070 01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:42.199 YouTube and TikTok that they can literally have shows on the most the level of 1071 01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:45.920 debauchery of some of these shows that that get all these you know looks, 1072 01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:47.840 and then if you try to have something where you just want to have an 1073 01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:53.720 honest conversation about your your personal beliefs and convictions, you're you're held at gunpoint 1074 01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:58.199 and told you're you know, a shuckster and get off our platform. Yeah, 1075 01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:01.680 it's crazy. I wanted to mention something, you know, we were 1076 01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:08.000 talking about David Ike and Brian Rose guy, and I just wanted to mention 1077 01:20:08.039 --> 01:20:12.920 this because I've heard it the past, maybe even two of the last three 1078 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:16.640 episodes I've watched or I'm sorry. I've listened to of this podcast and I've 1079 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:26.079 heard a lot of positive talk about Kennedy and RFK and and I, you 1080 01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:30.880 know, I'm not here to bad mouth anyone, but I I have found 1081 01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:34.359 some things and discovered some things that really make me think he is just again 1082 01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:39.840 like everybody else. You know, I don't see any difference between you know, 1083 01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:43.159 him or any other candidate. They're all the same people. I think 1084 01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.520 you would probably agree with that. But I think he is someone that is 1085 01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:53.279 being put put forth right now to reel the people like ourselves back in, 1086 01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:58.279 to reel the people who are upset about the vaccines, and to kind of 1087 01:20:58.319 --> 01:21:00.399 be like, Okay, this guy is anti vaccine. He's telling us the 1088 01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:03.119 truth. I you know, one of your listeners I was talking about how 1089 01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:06.880 he was an attorney and he's really interest the truth. And I don't see 1090 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:11.720 it that way. Not everyone has to listen to me, but I just 1091 01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:16.039 wanted to make sure I put my opinion about that out there because I, 1092 01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:20.079 you know, I think he's part of the bloodline, like just everybody else 1093 01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:26.680 probably Oh yeah, and the Kennedy bloodline. They got wealthy at the expense 1094 01:21:26.720 --> 01:21:30.600 of everybody else. Who lost money during the Great Depression of the late twenties. 1095 01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:35.520 Money the big families like the Boeing family, who is the Boeing Airplanes, 1096 01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:42.079 the DuPonts, Just like covid Man. It was a huge wealth transfer 1097 01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:47.920 and nothing different there definitely one thing I did want to touch on is a 1098 01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:51.720 few was there a smoking gun for you? And then do you keep what 1099 01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:56.479 is your silver bullet for you? If you have a few moments to talk 1100 01:21:56.520 --> 01:21:59.880 with someone and try to if you could give him one piece of advice, 1101 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:05.520 like what won you over for flat Earth? I think Polaris is big for 1102 01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:09.960 me, even though it kind of threw me for a loop at first. 1103 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:15.720 But when I first sat down and you know, took a screenshot of where 1104 01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:19.399 Polaris was when I was sitting in my backyard, and I an hour later 1105 01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:25.279 took a screenshot sitting in the exact same spot and it hadn't budged, and 1106 01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:29.399 then did the same thing the next day. That was the aha moment. 1107 01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:33.239 Unfortunately, I went and was looked at Google and was not eive enough to 1108 01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:39.319 realize or to not realize that Google was just you know, creating some nonsense. 1109 01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:43.199 Because I didn't realize Google was full of nonsense at that point, So 1110 01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:49.479 that kind of delayed my aha moment. But I was real close to getting 1111 01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:54.960 there. I was really thinking there was a good chance. And then I 1112 01:22:55.000 --> 01:23:00.000 had seen on YouTube there was you know, and I know you've talked about 1113 01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:03.760 this, but there was there's a clip of a guy who took a video 1114 01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:10.039 or a picture of the Chicago skyline from the Warren, the Michigan Warren Dune 1115 01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:14.239 State Park, and it is you know, if you do the math, 1116 01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:17.479 the globe math, there's I think, you know, at sixty miles you 1117 01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:21.920 shouldn't be able to there should be a you know, two thousand foot curve 1118 01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:26.000 where you can't see an object two thousand feet tall. And the Series or 1119 01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:30.840 Willis Tower as it's called now stands at about fifteen hundred feet and in that 1120 01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:34.560 picture you can clearly see it, sir. And then so I sent that 1121 01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:39.439 to a friend and then he found a picture that had clearly been doctored. 1122 01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:42.640 To me, I was it might have may have even been a video, 1123 01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:46.000 but it was like it almost looked like they just took the water and they 1124 01:23:46.039 --> 01:23:48.760 put it higher so you could only see a little bit of the Sears Tower. 1125 01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:53.319 And we went back and forth. I'm like, your videos doctored, 1126 01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:57.039 and he said, my videos doctored. And I, luckily, I was 1127 01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:00.840 going to Michigan that next week, and I took a tour and went to 1128 01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:09.319 that exact spot that the worn State Dunes in Michigan and saw the entire Chicago 1129 01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:13.640 skyline, talked a bottom with my own eyes and I didn't have to rely 1130 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:16.359 on the picture. And that was the last straw where I was like, 1131 01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:23.039 it's flat. And I think I had probably already known that, just because 1132 01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:27.479 the my star incident with the dogs and the stars. But I think that 1133 01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:30.880 is that's not so much the smoking gun of it being flat, as that 1134 01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:35.039 was the smoking gun of this place is not what they've told us. So 1135 01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:41.399 I think i'd use pilaris and I'd use water. And how it's always level 1136 01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:45.960 and we see too far all the time. You can't ever experience a curve 1137 01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:49.720 ever, And you know, for some reason, that seems very easy and 1138 01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:58.720 logical to me, but apparently that's really hard for others to see that that 1139 01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:01.239 you're trying trying to tell to people about. Yeah, it's funny now that 1140 01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:03.960 I'm kind of on the other side and I'm awake and I can see. 1141 01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:08.680 And there's days when I'm sitting here in the office doing some work, answering 1142 01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:13.399 emails, and I think I was like, wow, I actually believe that 1143 01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:16.920 water could stick to a ball. Yes, right, I was down at 1144 01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:20.840 We live about a half hour from Lake Michigan, and my wife and I 1145 01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:26.199 were down there today. And you know, I always my brother is a 1146 01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:30.640 boat captain and he cannot even get close to flat earth because of being a 1147 01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:33.840 boat captain. I think he swears and he says that he learned and that 1148 01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:36.800 he sees, and this is nothing against him. This is just kind of 1149 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:42.800 describing his point of view that he can see as a boat goes away, 1150 01:25:43.119 --> 01:25:45.920 it goes from you know, bottom, the bottom disappears first and then the 1151 01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:51.199 top. So he is someone that cannot get on it, and he is 1152 01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:54.880 on He used to work on Lake Michigan and he would see it all the 1153 01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:58.920 time. And from my point of view when I'm trying to think of you 1154 01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:00.680 know, you can see when I'm down at Lake Michigan, the beach I 1155 01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:04.760 go to, I can see thirty miles to the north, and I can 1156 01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:08.800 see about thirty miles to the south, and I can see Chicago. So 1157 01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:13.000 there is an expanse of about sixty miles, and when I look out to 1158 01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:17.479 the horizon, you know, I could understand how you can't see like you 1159 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:21.279 would think, Okay, you can't see the curve going away from you. 1160 01:26:21.439 --> 01:26:26.279 Okay. But what I've never realized, and I heard someone say that it 1161 01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:29.159 may have even been on your podcast. You can't see it going away. 1162 01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:31.199 But if I can see all the way to my left and all the way 1163 01:26:31.239 --> 01:26:33.720 to my right, we don't live on a paper towel. The curve isn't 1164 01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:38.760 just going away from you. It would be going from side to side too. 1165 01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:43.199 And it's just like, how did I never notice that all I see 1166 01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:46.560 for miles on miles and miles of horizon is straight water? It's not we 1167 01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:50.039 don't live on a paper towel. And does that make sense the paper towel 1168 01:26:50.039 --> 01:26:56.000 analogy? Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Absolutely. Yeah. So that's 1169 01:26:56.039 --> 01:26:59.680 just like you. I just sit down or I was sitting down there today 1170 01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:01.359 and I was like, I don't know how I ever believe this. It's 1171 01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:06.079 it's crazy, and I've had I was at a friend's house for dinner the 1172 01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:10.960 other week, and you know, he knew I was of this mindset, 1173 01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:15.960 and he I didn't want to talk about around his kids. And I could 1174 01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.880 tell he had had some sort of experience with flat Earth, and you know, 1175 01:27:18.920 --> 01:27:23.600 he was like flat Earth, really, like why flat Earth? And 1176 01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:27.880 you know, I you know, explained why, and and it just seemed 1177 01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:30.760 like you had experience. And I was like, what, what is your 1178 01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:34.000 previous experience with this that you have such a negative, you know, kind 1179 01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:40.199 of mindset with it. And he had said his daughter came home from school, 1180 01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:45.199 his daughters maybe nine or ten, and was convinced the Earth was flat 1181 01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:49.199 and they literally had to spend three weeks teaching or how I was round. 1182 01:27:49.239 --> 01:27:54.159 And it made me so upset just thinking about the fact that this poor kid 1183 01:27:54.880 --> 01:28:00.800 is doing everything right and just experiencing the world as it is, experience using 1184 01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:05.000 her senses to see that the sky is or the earth is not moving, 1185 01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:09.039 but the stars and the sun and the moon is moving above us, and 1186 01:28:09.079 --> 01:28:13.319 that we're not spinning, and that we're not walking upside down on the other 1187 01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:15.960 side of the Earth, and for you know, like it upset me so 1188 01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:19.760 much. But I just you know, like he he is so set on 1189 01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:23.439 it, and he doesn't want to listen to my point of view that I 1190 01:28:23.560 --> 01:28:25.880 you know, I can't say anything. I can't go you know, I'm 1191 01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:28.840 obviously not going to go to my friend's child and say, hey, the 1192 01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:31.840 Earth is flat, but it was. It's upsetting to me, especially as 1193 01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:40.319 a teacher, and I'm I'm even struggling with going back to schools as a 1194 01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:45.239 teacher. Fortunately for me, I don't teach anything that I don't agree with, 1195 01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:47.960 but it's just it's tough to go back to a place that you don't 1196 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:53.199 agree with. Now, based on knowing that it's just the indoctrination camp that 1197 01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:57.039 it is. Yeah, we're starting to get stories and hear stories from other 1198 01:28:57.039 --> 01:29:01.880 podcasters who is this was a science teacher and he decided to start his own, 1199 01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:08.119 you know, like a homeschool community because you know, especially if you're 1200 01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:13.319 a Christian and you believe in the creation story and a geocentric like a biblical 1201 01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:16.600 cosmology, and then you have to go, you know, sit in front 1202 01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:19.439 of if you're doing five classes a day, thirty children, that's one hundred 1203 01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:24.520 and fifty children that you're teaching evolution in the Big Bank theory too, because 1204 01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:28.279 it's demanded by the state and the federal government. There's a lot of people 1205 01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:30.960 who have a hard time coping with that, Yeah, for sure, And 1206 01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:34.760 like I mean, I couldn't even imagine being you know, say I was 1207 01:29:35.079 --> 01:29:41.319 a science teacher or even a history teacher with some of the nonsense history that 1208 01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:45.680 I've come to realize exists. I know I wouldn't be able to do it. 1209 01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:50.039 But as a strength and conditioning teacher, you know, I can teach 1210 01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:56.159 things that have nothing to do with the lies. But it's still I'm having 1211 01:29:56.199 --> 01:30:02.000 a tough time wanting to go back because I know, I know it's something 1212 01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:04.520 I'm passionate about and we want to talk about, and kind of like we 1213 01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:09.359 talked about earlier, it's like a lot of things are just small talk now, 1214 01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:13.199 and I don't I know that it's truth to me, it's truth to 1215 01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:17.039 you, and it's not a belief, it's it's knowledge. It's but the 1216 01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:21.439 school systems won't see it that way. And I know anything I would say 1217 01:30:21.439 --> 01:30:26.119 about it would just get me in hot water. And at one point I 1218 01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:30.600 had this burning passion to go in and try to make some really positive change 1219 01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:34.520 and get people to see, you know, it's just the whole thing for 1220 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:38.600 several weeks has been I just want to start, you know, a row 1221 01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:42.239 of domino is if I could push one domino over, then who knows what 1222 01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:47.000 it could change. And I think I have struggled really hard trying to do 1223 01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:51.399 that with any friends, any family. I've tried a few teachers, and 1224 01:30:53.319 --> 01:30:58.760 it is almost an impossibility. But I think part of that has obviously been 1225 01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:01.520 my approach. It just pushing too hard, too fast, instead of like 1226 01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:08.119 us, say, leaving the bread breadcrumbs. One thing I did want to 1227 01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:11.600 ask you before we started to wrap things up, where where's your wife on 1228 01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:16.199 board? As far as the truth train that you know you're pretty far ahead. 1229 01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:20.399 Where is she at with some of these things? I'm glad you asked. 1230 01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:28.199 It's been it's been a struggle. I think you know, from my 1231 01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:32.479 perspective, She's someone I've been with for twenty five years, and you know, 1232 01:31:33.239 --> 01:31:35.800 I feel like if she were to come to me and say something, 1233 01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:39.840 I would just take her at face value, like I would give her the 1234 01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:43.920 benefit of the doubt, and I would be like, Okay, I don't 1235 01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:46.039 think the earth is flat, but I'm willing to listen. And she has 1236 01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.600 not wanted to take part of it, and it's been a struggle with us. 1237 01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:58.119 However, recently her cousin came over. He's a college student, he's 1238 01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:00.239 twenty one, and I had no idea how much of an open mind he 1239 01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:04.399 had. So her cousin came over to fish, and her dad came over 1240 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:11.399 to fish. And my wife has experienced nothing but negativity from other people towards 1241 01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:15.880 me, nothing but people thinking I am crazy and delusional and schizophrenic and all 1242 01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:21.079 the words you can think of. And her cousin, Pierre, came over 1243 01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:29.960 and her dad and her cousin is like fully red pilled and is a flat 1244 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.960 Earth. I had no idea, is totally red pilled on all the things 1245 01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:38.319 I am. So she sat and kind of just heard us talk and realized 1246 01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:41.239 that I'm not the only one that thinks this way. And then her dad 1247 01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:45.119 was super receptive. He heard us mentioned flat Earth, and he was like, 1248 01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:48.680 what's flat Earth? And my wife said, it's the belief the round 1249 01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:53.319 or the Earth isn't round, it's flat, and he goes, yeah, 1250 01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:56.680 it's like I think it could be. He's like, they just told us 1251 01:32:56.680 --> 01:33:00.079 in school was round, but I've never seen proof. He's like, you 1252 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:02.239 might be right, Tyler, and like it was like the weight of the 1253 01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:06.960 world lifted off my shoulders because I had two people not only willing to listen 1254 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:10.720 and one of them fully on board with a lot of my beliefs, but 1255 01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:14.399 another one that was just open minded enough to not shut me out right away. 1256 01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:17.640 And my wife was kind of just a bystander and listened and participated a 1257 01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:23.119 little and I think that kind of just change her viewpoint on this a lot, 1258 01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:27.479 to the point where she's asked me a few things, like a few 1259 01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:30.600 concepts of flat earth that you know, about the firmament and different things, 1260 01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:36.600 and it's like we're having discussions about it instead of arguments now. And it's, 1261 01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:41.840 like I said, it is a load off the shoulders. That's awesome, 1262 01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:44.119 and that can make all the difference in the world where you can just 1263 01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:47.600 have a couple of people at least say yeah, it's possible, you know, 1264 01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:51.840 yeah for sure, bit of vindication. It doesn't you know, everybody. 1265 01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:57.159 I understand everybody's journey is different. And again there's a lot of people 1266 01:33:57.199 --> 01:34:00.359 who you know, I say this, but still, after everything we've gone 1267 01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:03.920 through over the last three years, I'm a little surprised how many people still 1268 01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:06.680 blindly trust the state. You know what I mean, the state, I 1269 01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:12.199 mean, you know any that the state, the government at the federal level, 1270 01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:15.920 and they're just not looking out for our best interest. And we know 1271 01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:19.680 that, you know who runs the earth. And going back to uh, 1272 01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:25.359 what's his name? The musician who you know, if he can make it 1273 01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:29.119 do with the devil, I mean, he's here, you can, you 1274 01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:31.479 can do these things. And the people at the top of the food chains, 1275 01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:35.920 all the secret societies and there is that there's a reason why they call 1276 01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:41.800 themselves the Illuminati, because they're illuminated to information that we don't have. There's 1277 01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:45.640 there's information for the peons like you and I, and then they, you 1278 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:49.079 know, they know the secrets of the world, and for us everything is 1279 01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:53.399 deception. And that's simply the world we live in. And we just all 1280 01:34:53.399 --> 01:34:59.199 we can do is strive to find the truth, yep. And I'm trying 1281 01:34:59.239 --> 01:35:01.079 to encourage people to do that. And I you know, like I said, 1282 01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:04.800 I you know, I think people get the impression that I'm pushing things 1283 01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:08.640 on people because I want to be right, and that is for that can 1284 01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:13.880 be more far from the truth. All I'm trying to do is give people 1285 01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:17.640 the knowledge that they're being lied to and that they shouldn't trust the people that 1286 01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:20.319 are telling them to take vaccines or to do this, and you know, 1287 01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:28.520 like my family was all very quick to get the vaccines and even you know, 1288 01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:31.960 persuaded to me to do it, and not my favorite way kind of 1289 01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:34.880 where I was feeling to the point where I wouldn't be able to see my 1290 01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:38.840 niece and nephew. So I ended up getting it against my better judgment. 1291 01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:42.680 But you know, half my reason or ninety percent of my reason of trying 1292 01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:45.000 to push this knowledge on people is so if there is a situation like that 1293 01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:49.920 again, they know that they shouldn't trust the people telling them to do things, 1294 01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:55.720 from the media, from the news, from your own president. They're 1295 01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:58.079 not people, like you said, that have our best interest at heart. 1296 01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:03.119 And that's not a belief of mine anymore. I know that it's a great 1297 01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:10.199 way to kind of get to the closing of this program is yeah, that 1298 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:15.239 they manipulated families and they use so many deceitful ways. And you know, 1299 01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:18.319 I just said I recorded a four hour retrospective on COVID and having to go 1300 01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:23.680 back and to listen to the ridiculous things that they were doing and the level 1301 01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:27.399 of propaganda they used against us, and then just to realize that was just 1302 01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:30.800 a few years ago. Imagine what they've been doing for all those years, 1303 01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:33.760 and much of the deception they use is very subtle. Well, you know, 1304 01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:38.399 we go back to the TV, the movies, and it's a long 1305 01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:42.279 process and it's very difficult to break the matrix. But once you do, 1306 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:47.439 it's like being born again, and you literally are born again. And to 1307 01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:50.720 me, from my perspective, it brought me closer to God. I realized 1308 01:36:51.039 --> 01:36:55.199 he was right above polaris. You know. That was my journey to the 1309 01:36:55.199 --> 01:36:58.560 truth and it brought me closer to God. But it also made me realize 1310 01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:00.399 that I don't depend on man. I don't answer to man. Right, 1311 01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:05.680 everything was given to us by God. Yeah, and I couldn't agree more 1312 01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:10.000 I you know, I kind of mentioned earlier, just kind of in my 1313 01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:15.800 upbringing. I was raised Catholic, but went to you know, Catechism and 1314 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:17.600 got confirmed and all that. But it was between me and my friends. 1315 01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:20.520 It was something we had to do. It was something that was pushed on 1316 01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:24.680 us. I was never overly spiritual. I believed in the Big Bang and 1317 01:37:24.760 --> 01:37:30.039 evolution, and I am one believer in God. Now you know, where 1318 01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:33.079 I have a Bible sitting next to my bed. I'm praying, do we 1319 01:37:33.159 --> 01:37:36.880 have two minutes where I can tell kind of a quick good story has to 1320 01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:41.680 do with that a little bit? Yeah ahead, Yeah. Well, So 1321 01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:45.199 I bought some flatter shirts and I was very proud to be sporting those, 1322 01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:51.640 and woke up the other morning and I wanted to share my thoughts on the 1323 01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:56.800 Lahainah incident with my wife. And like I said, she is we honeymoon 1324 01:37:56.920 --> 01:37:59.520 there, so it's very close to her heart. She was very upset by 1325 01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:01.800 it. But right away I thought there was something a little bit more nefarious 1326 01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:05.399 to it. So but I came in the bedroom and I wanted to tell 1327 01:38:05.399 --> 01:38:09.760 her about it, and it was first thing in the morning, and respectfully, 1328 01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:12.359 she has asked, you can talk about this stuff, but first thing 1329 01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:15.279 in the morning, I don't want negativity. I don't want to talk about 1330 01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:17.920 Satan and I crossed that boundary. So we got into a little bit of 1331 01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:23.800 an argument, and I didn't want to apologize, and I probably should have, 1332 01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:27.319 but I ended up leaving. I just wanted to go and take a 1333 01:38:27.359 --> 01:38:30.560 bike ride and pull off. So I've got my flatterth T shirt on and 1334 01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:34.479 I'm biking. I'm biking, I'm biking and I get about thirty miles away 1335 01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:39.520 from my house and I take a left off this bike path and there's about 1336 01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:45.039 a twenty five foot section area, and I should say real quick, before 1337 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:48.439 I get to that, I'm those thirty miles I'm praying. I'm saying to 1338 01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:54.760 God, please give me a sign or give me the strength to help me 1339 01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:58.239 through this time with my wife, Like it's it's a hard time because I 1340 01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:01.520 have these beliefs, and anyway, I'm having these prayers, and I throughout 1341 01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:04.439 my whole life, I have not been a big prayer unless I'm getting on 1342 01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:08.600 a plane and terrified, which I'm not me more because I believe in God. 1343 01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:11.760 But anyway, I'm praying on that bike ride and I get to this 1344 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:15.439 twenty five foot section of path where I'm literally only going to be on it 1345 01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:18.800 for those twenty five feet. I turn, I'm on it and I'm passing 1346 01:39:19.039 --> 01:39:25.399 just one single gentleman and he looks at me and he gives me a thumbs 1347 01:39:25.439 --> 01:39:29.359 up and he goes, I think it's flat too, And I stopped and 1348 01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:31.279 I was like, do you really think that or are you just like making 1349 01:39:31.319 --> 01:39:33.479 fun? He's like, oh no, He's like, I really think it. 1350 01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:38.680 It comes over and we start talking and he's like, I've had some 1351 01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:44.520 pretty incredible experiences. He was telling me about this experience with photographing the moon 1352 01:39:44.640 --> 01:39:46.880 and eclipse and how it just didn't add up the way it was told. 1353 01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:53.399 And I had literally just my last post on Instagram was about an eclipse in 1354 01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:59.560 the moon, and we just got talking and it turned out he was going 1355 01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:05.159 he he was biking from Wisconsin to Florida because he wanted to see his kids 1356 01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:08.640 and he didn't have a car, and he's been a bad dad and he 1357 01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:12.880 just broke up with his girlfriend and he's literally biking from Wisconsin to Florida. 1358 01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:15.239 But before he even gets to Illinois from Wisconsin, his bike broke down. 1359 01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:19.760 So he's walking and we talk and we're sharing all these things and we're very 1360 01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:26.399 aligned in our beliefs and things, and it was just like you couldn't believe 1361 01:40:26.439 --> 01:40:29.119 how many things we agreed on, and especially for me because a lot of 1362 01:40:29.119 --> 01:40:31.600 them were in a short amount of time. And I just and I let 1363 01:40:31.680 --> 01:40:33.920 him and I go, you know what, I was like, take my 1364 01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:38.880 bike. And he looks at me and he's like his eyes water up a 1365 01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:41.520 little, and he's like no way, and I'm like yeah. I was 1366 01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:43.720 like, you gotta take my bike, like, I'll figure out a way 1367 01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:45.800 home. Take my bike, and he said, I'll take it under one 1368 01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:50.680 circumstance. And he knew I was on my bike because my wife and I 1369 01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:54.279 arguing, and he goes, I'll take it under one circumstance, and he 1370 01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:58.159 said you need to be kind and love your wife, and then he started 1371 01:40:58.159 --> 01:41:01.159 crying. I started crying. I hugged him, and then I hadn't even 1372 01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:04.319 got his name yet, and then he told me his name and his name 1373 01:41:04.399 --> 01:41:09.159 his initials were JC, and I was like, this is like the most 1374 01:41:09.640 --> 01:41:15.399 insane incredible thing that I'm hugging the stranger crying, giving my prized bike possession 1375 01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:19.520 a white because I love that thing, and then had been praying on it. 1376 01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:27.720 And then Joseph Cougar happened to be meet me within the only twenty five 1377 01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:30.840 feet of my thirty miles I would have ever come across him, and it's 1378 01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:34.840 just like, there's just another confirmation that there are bigger things in this world 1379 01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:40.199 than us, and if you focus on the right ones and the positive ones 1380 01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:44.359 like God and friends and family, some good things can happen you know what 1381 01:41:45.159 --> 01:41:48.439 a story and people say there there's no such thing as miracles anymore, and 1382 01:41:48.439 --> 01:41:53.560 that's that's an incredible story. You know you God set that person for for 1383 01:41:53.600 --> 01:41:57.279 that to for you know, He meant for me to to at that particular 1384 01:41:57.319 --> 01:42:00.600 time. The timing of it and the fact that I had never worn a 1385 01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:05.039 flat earth shirt and the literal twenty five feet out of thirty miles that it 1386 01:42:05.079 --> 01:42:10.840 could have only happened and as initials were, jac was just it was too 1387 01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:15.479 perfect. That's awesome. I have a T shirt of a globe and the 1388 01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:17.720 word indoctrination under it. People just give me confused looks. I've never got 1389 01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:20.960 anybody they're coming on it. They just look at it and they're confused by 1390 01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:27.119 it. All. Oh, I'm sure. Well it's You've been a tremendous 1391 01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:30.079 guest and we've had a great conversation and I want to thank you for your 1392 01:42:30.079 --> 01:42:40.600 time and your honesty and just incredible you know, your transformation, and you've 1393 01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:43.880 taken in a lot of information and I know sometimes I know it was for 1394 01:42:43.920 --> 01:42:45.199 me and it's a list of the day. When I go down certain rabbit 1395 01:42:45.239 --> 01:42:48.680 holes, it can be certainly overwhelming, and it's great to be able to 1396 01:42:48.680 --> 01:42:53.359 sit down and chat with like minded people. I do. I'd like to 1397 01:42:53.399 --> 01:42:56.279 give you the opportunity to close out with anything else you'd like to say. 1398 01:42:58.079 --> 01:43:01.840 Honestly, I just want to thank you. You know I mentioned earlier you 1399 01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:06.680 and your podcast and all the other like minded individuals and fellow flat Earthers that 1400 01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:12.359 I've been listening to. Chat with you is been more therapeutic than going to 1401 01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:16.000 spend money with my therapist. And nothing against him, he's a he's a 1402 01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:21.800 great guy, but sometimes it just helps to to hear like minded individuals. 1403 01:43:21.800 --> 01:43:26.680 And George keep up the amazing work. I'll be listening to every episode and 1404 01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:30.079 maybe someday I can come on The Fact Hunter as well and talk a little 1405 01:43:30.119 --> 01:43:34.680 bit more holographic technology. Absolutely, we'll look to that towards the end of 1406 01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:40.319 September. That's that's something again after flat Earth, you're willing to look into 1407 01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:45.279 anything. You're not as quick to judge certain subjects, because once you realize 1408 01:43:45.319 --> 01:43:47.680 that the Granddaddy of all was alive and anything as possible, that is for 1409 01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:51.239 sure. It's been another great episode, and I want to thank everybody for 1410 01:43:51.359 --> 01:43:58.039 your continued support of the podcast As we approach one hundred episodes and we haven't 1411 01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:02.039 quite hit a year yet, and we'll keep chugging along, trying to bring 1412 01:44:02.119 --> 01:44:09.279 different voices from around the world with their journey to the truth and flattered and 1413 01:44:09.479 --> 01:44:13.239 again for Tyler, I'm George, God bless everyone. Keep your head on 1414 01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:15.239 a swivel, and until the next time we see you, folks, we 1415 01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:15.840 will see you.