1 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:34,039 Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. This 2 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,679 is your host, Adam Graham. If you have a comment, email it 3 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:42,840 to me Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net. Follow us on Twitter at 4 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,560 Radio Detectives, and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, 5 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,320 slash Great Detectives and if you're enjoying this podcast, please follow us using your 6 00:00:52,439 --> 00:00:58,119 favorite podcast software. Today is our four thousand, two hundred and fiftieth episode 7 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,159 special Now You're a Call. A few weeks back that a listener sent me 8 00:01:03,239 --> 00:01:07,719 an email and asked me how I found the programs that I used for the 9 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:12,959 podcast, and I decided it would be interesting to play something that kind of 10 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,760 came about as a result of digging through the Internet. In this case, 11 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,359 this is from a program I found at the Internet Archive while going through something 12 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:30,640 like one hundred different posts containing Australian old time radio programs. Today, we're 13 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,439 going to bring you an episode of an Australian crime anthology program. Now, 14 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:42,359 there were a variety of Australian crime anthology shows. Now, some might have 15 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:49,920 been similar to US programs, which often told imaginative recreations of the activities of 16 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,599 criminals, And what I mean by imaginative recreations is that you will have crime 17 00:01:56,719 --> 00:02:04,560 stories that were dramatized for radio, and all of the criminals died before any 18 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,439 one of them could talk to the police. Yet the radio program will write 19 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:15,599 dialogue and write things in detail on how these criminals were, what their personalities 20 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,319 were, and how they related to each other. Well, that's what I 21 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:23,000 mean by imaginative recreations. That's not what we're getting today because other anthology programs 22 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:29,240 would kind of mix things up as to whose perspective they were looking at a 23 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:32,599 case from and what type of story they were telling. And that brought me 24 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:39,000 to Police File. Police File was a series that focused on the work of 25 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:51,039 the Commonwealth Investigative Branch or CIB. Australia's police forces have undergone some reorganizations, 26 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,960 so I don't believe you would actually find a modern agency called the CIB, 27 00:02:55,599 --> 00:03:00,759 but it was I think somewhat current in the mid nineteen five fifties. The 28 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,439 episode I'm going to play today is the only one that I think is really 29 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,560 a good fit for our podcast, and I will say I don't have a 30 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:14,759 date for this episode, but based on internal evidence, I think it was 31 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,639 probably from nineteen fifty five or fifty six, sometime in the mid fifties. 32 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:27,479 The series originated in Sydney where it was broadcast at seven pm on Sunday night 33 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:34,319 over radio station two GB, and then there was also a broadcast in Adelaide, 34 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:40,360 Australia at nine pm on Sunday nights on station five AD, which is 35 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:46,840 now known by the call signed five ADD. The series was sponsored by Colder 36 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:53,080 Refrigeration Company and in nineteen fifty five the series would be renamed The Colder Police 37 00:03:53,080 --> 00:04:00,159 Report. With that said, let's bring you today's episode of Police Files are 38 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:33,519 one by one police file true crime stories which made banner headlines in your newspapers, 39 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,839 stories as in the files of your police department, and gathered from the 40 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:44,160 records of one of the largest newspaper organizations in the Southern Hemisphere. Tonight, 41 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,439 if we glanced at the file on Edward Charles Wilson. As usual, all 42 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,879 names used are fictitious, but the facts are true. In this story of 43 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,879 how your CIB trapped the man who was probably the most accomplished counterfeater in the 44 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:27,360 history of crime. They called him mister one by one and he walked alone 45 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,160 down the broad Highway of Crime. Like most counterfeiters, he was a quiet 46 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:38,680 man, studious, thoughtful. He carried his capital equipment under his hat, 47 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,480 and his tools of trade could be fitted into a small suit case. And 48 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,000 then he would stop and consider a purchase. His hand would go to his 49 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:55,160 wallets and he would extract one banknote, a bank note for ten pounds. 50 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,800 As he looked at it, his eyes were not covetous, but admiring, 51 00:06:00,759 --> 00:06:06,000 proud. After all, hadn't he made it himself? Then he would look 52 00:06:06,079 --> 00:06:11,680 up and say, who'd changed this? I'd like it in singles, if 53 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:18,399 you don't mind. The bank manager waited for one of his senior officials. 54 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,120 As he waited, he stared thoughtfully at the piece of paper that lay on 55 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,360 the disk in front of him. The bank manager was a very worried man. 56 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:35,800 Come ooh, isn't it come in? Is it about the Williams and 57 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:45,560 the council? No, sit down, Bennett, look at this, hm, 58 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:53,279 perfectly ordinary? Tennor is it? Hmm? Well, well I'll take 59 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:59,160 it over to the window if you don't mind. Yes, yes, very 60 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:04,639 odd serial numbers write it. It looks perfect good crackle. Only one thing 61 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:08,519 I can see wrong. There's a very small floor here on the coat of 62 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:13,120 arms on the left hand side. Exactly. Try it on all our taillers, 63 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,319 if you will, mister Burnett, be casual about it. While you're 64 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:30,240 away, I shall bring the sea I b Yes. Detectives Benson and Riley 65 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,399 came post haste at the bank manager's call, and they sat with the manager 66 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:38,399 in his office. When they'd examined the note, they looked at each other. 67 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:42,079 What do you think, Ranie, I've never seen anything like it. 68 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,639 I don't not admitting I have passed it same here. You're in good company. 69 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,120 It's been tried on all our taillers. Not one of them hesitated to 70 00:07:50,199 --> 00:07:55,639 change it. Who stopped it? I did? I suppose it's because I've 71 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,920 a lot more experienced than some of them. In Ah, this isn't going 72 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:03,160 to be easy cracking this one. You're telling us the man who did this 73 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,879 is an absolute past master in the art of photo engraving, ma Ryan, 74 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:11,279 and thinking that the only real floor is on this coat of arms. Yes, 75 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,000 mister Rading. Beyond that, it's perfect. It's the paper. I 76 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,560 can't understand. It's so good. Listen to that crackles. Of course, 77 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,720 I don't need to tell you that feel has a lot to do with detecting 78 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:30,160 forgeries. It doesn't take long to sense automatically that crispness of a genuine bankment, 79 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,000 and yet your teller has passed it, every one of them. Mister 80 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:37,879 Benson, well it looks like a long road ahead. What do you think 81 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,159 of this? For start with the public award? I think it'd be a 82 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,279 very good idea. You see the serial number V one six, et cetera, 83 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:52,440 is quite in order. That's current. Yes to the ordinary person, 84 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:56,039 gentlemen, there's only one thing wrong with this tenant. It wasn't made at 85 00:08:56,039 --> 00:09:03,440 the government mint. They WI should thanks. You'll let us know as soon 86 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,759 as we cite another one. Of course, about that morning through the newspapers, 87 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:13,480 I suggest as soon as possible today, Come on, Riley, the 88 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:28,840 weights are up and so the public was worn. Isn't everyday of the week, 89 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,879 of course, that we handled ten pound notes? Would we get a 90 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:35,840 bit of a shock if we did try to change of forge one? Meanwhile, 91 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,679 the long job of tracking down the forger started. The detectives Benson and 92 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:43,480 Ryley soon had their first report to work on. Read what the boys in 93 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,320 the back room said about our Yeah, the work of a past master. 94 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,840 All right, now to pin down who it could be, Let's look at 95 00:09:50,840 --> 00:10:01,919 that list of names, Ronnie, any favorites I've noticed you've marked your Yes, 96 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,519 I agree with that these three fellow Engravers are of Middle European nationality. 97 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:11,000 Yeah, it's quite reasonable, Speck. I don't think one of our local 98 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,519 boys could turn up with a job like that. Odds are some gang as 99 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,919 one of these Engravers on his payroll they could afford to paying well, considering 100 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:22,919 the work he's turning up, big stuff. No fiddling about with Florin's with 101 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,919 this mob by Heck, it's going to be tough trying to fit this one. 102 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:35,159 Riley, where do we start keeping these three merchants under observation? Let's 103 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:37,279 go and see the chief keeping tabs on these boys. Is going to be 104 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:50,879 around the club job for somebody. Well, looks like it's a washout, 105 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,600 Riley. On those engravers, chiefs called the watchdogs offer, Yes, took 106 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,960 them off this morning. What they've learned by following them would fill a book, 107 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:03,600 but it isn't very interesting. No clue to the forgery. Yeah, 108 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:09,399 well what we do now? Excuse me Benson speaking, Hey, Yes, 109 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:18,000 here, Oh pretty Martin? No, hello, oh yes, when was 110 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:24,960 this? Yes, we'll be right down. Thanks, all right, what's 111 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:30,840 that? Nothing so far? But what you that might help us? We'll 112 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:35,000 be there in ten minutes, our friend, the bank manager. Another pony 113 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,000 tenor reported from Melbourne, one from Brisbane. They're starting to move. Eh, 114 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,720 Capital city is easier to pass. This looks like a big organization right 115 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:48,039 here. What about the serial numbers? All in order, right down to 116 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:52,039 the watermark. Now, who but the best forger in the world would try 117 00:11:52,080 --> 00:12:03,960 to reproduce a watermark? Come on, let's go. The new forgers were 118 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:09,679 well nigh perfect. The same slight floor in the coat of arms was the 119 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:15,519 only identification without careful expert examination that the note hadn't been made at the mint. 120 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,519 That was in November. In December, the chief of the CIB rang 121 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:28,200 down to Detective Benson. Yes, sir, Yes, how many? Yes, 122 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,720 you're right, we'll get onto it right away. What did the chief 123 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:37,919 want me to take charge of? Five more phony tennors? Looks as if 124 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:41,519 somebody's going to have a merry Christmas. It's good money. It's our best 125 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:45,360 break to date, though, our only break. I don't say it Christmas 126 00:12:45,399 --> 00:12:48,639 time the game will want to spend freely. They start tossing them about too 127 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,120 freely, and that's when we walk in and grab them. Now, let's 128 00:12:52,159 --> 00:12:56,120 make the list of likely places where they be chained. Banks, obviously, 129 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,679 I don't know risky. I put race courses first, book Makers always in 130 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,240 a honey departmental stores, big merchants. No, we get onto the mall. 131 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:09,200 What we need here is cooperation, and a lot of it. If 132 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,399 once we can get hold of somebody passing one, he might spill the bead 133 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,080 on the whole gang. I'll take the bookies. They're going to hand out 134 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:24,759 a lot of tennis. Benson speaking now, Yes, yeah, yes, 135 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,600 yes, coming right up to gee, yes, reckons. I'm slow and 136 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,320 he's sitting waiting for me to take off the five phone. There's two more 137 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,840 of coming. Looks like they're going to be as common as tot tickets before 138 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:41,399 it's all over. They were discovered in a small but steady stream. Just 139 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:43,639 when it seemed that perhaps the gang was lying low, another one would appear. 140 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,600 The men of the CIV had their hands full of keeping the accurate tally 141 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,639 of appearances. Now look at this, Well, just when we've decided the 142 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,120 basis in Sydney. We've got a small crop in Newcastle. Happened last week. 143 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,360 We're going to ask them down in Melbourne to move in on Sutter. 144 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,279 And we've got three in Brisbane and one in Bathurst. Yes, aren't you 145 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:13,600 know what's the deduction? I know no gang could be that thing. It 146 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:18,200 wouldn't pay. I'll go that far with you. They need to many paid 147 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,519 helpers to pass them off. By this time we should have grabbed one of 148 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:26,279 them. Hm. We've checked on every known further engraver that there is right 149 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:31,679 through the country. We've examined every possible system are or set up that we've 150 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:37,600 ever known or heard of in this records or nothing. There's any one answer 151 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:43,480 there the way I see it, what imported stuff? It must be imported 152 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Europe. Yeah. Now you remember that big report we read way back about 153 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:52,519 Hitler in his forgery gang. Oh yes, I remember he had currency of 154 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,639 every country made ready so that when he invaded he could knock the currency for 155 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,360 loop with his Finney stuff that was it had some of his best I'm just 156 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:05,960 working on it too. Ah he wait a while, that doesn't end up? 157 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:09,960 Why not? Or serial numbers on these fannies. How could Hitler or 158 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,720 anybody, how could they have done ten years ago? What numbers would be 159 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,960 comeing today in Australia? Or maybe somebody out here as a suitcase full of 160 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,799 this stuff and has been waiting for just this time to release. I don't 161 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,000 make it too. I would never catch him at that right, And doesn't 162 00:15:22,039 --> 00:15:33,679 seem like now that's a cold what you said? Never catch him? Now? 163 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,480 Why shouldn't this be the work of only one man? Why does it 164 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:43,919 have to be a game? Well, doesn't have to be again, that 165 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,919 ends up the way they've been pulling one here, two there, another one 166 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,200 a thousand miles away, and then a couple a few miles off. It's 167 00:15:54,240 --> 00:16:00,480 one man riding mister one by one? Eh, eh, yes, mister 168 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:04,279 one by one by What a hunt is going to be? Well, this 169 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,600 is a shot as a barrel full of monkeys, That's all I can say. 170 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,440 He's going to be down to a fine art. They manufacturing and distributed. 171 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:17,120 Oh, he could push out one a week for the rest of his 172 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,039 life. And we were we get outbreak nowhere, come on, we'll see 173 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:32,679 the chief and Benson. Yes, yes, where where was this? All 174 00:16:32,799 --> 00:16:36,399 right? We're on our way, Jack, Thanks, thanks for the one 175 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,759 real break we've had. That was Jack Courtney. They discovered a whole of 176 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:47,919 phony tenors down in Gleeb, one hundred and eighty five of them. Now 177 00:16:47,960 --> 00:17:15,920 we're really on the trail of mister one by One. The horde of forged 178 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:22,160 tenors had been found by two council employees. It was purely an accident, 179 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:26,400 but the men of the CIV knew how to capitalize on chance happenings like that, 180 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:30,440 and that's the way it was. Really. The council employee saw this 181 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,640 nut here protruding from this iron air vent, gave it a pull, and 182 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,319 out came the airvent and the sock, and in the sock one hundred and 183 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:48,599 eighty five tenors. Yes, it's not a bad haul if they've been genuine. 184 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:52,359 Listen, you are setting a watch on this secret hoarde. Ah, 185 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,200 Yes, constant watch, night and day. And if I've missed a one 186 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:08,960 by one comes back, well that's when we move in. But mister one 187 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:14,960 by One did not come back. The CIV watched the secret Horde for nearly 188 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,680 three weeks. Nobody was seen coming near the event or tampering with it in 189 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:25,960 any way. Meanwhile, detectives Benson and Riley had not been idle. Our 190 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:30,359 fellow must be weary, Rannie, I don't think he'll go near that hiding 191 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:37,799 plaze now, maybe reckons he can afford to let them go anyhow, as 192 00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:44,000 he probably can, and the Rady's turning them out and the protection of the 193 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:48,400 job. What's the tally now? Now, let's see two months ago it 194 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:55,440 was one hundred and fourteen passed in twenty nine. But in the last two 195 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,960 months we've seen the average go up. He's past seventy and eight weeks. 196 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:07,599 Well, that's nearly ninety pounds a week. That's good money earned or not 197 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:11,880 good money or that. What I'm trying to make out is how I can 198 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,200 change them in such a weird spots here, there, and everywhere. He 199 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:22,200 must travel around like a salesman, risky too, carrying so many on him. 200 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,640 Anyhow, let's look at this before. What is it? Well? 201 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,039 I asked the oddice to make out the complete list of known forges, whether 202 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:36,240 in jail or not, anything of interest in just a moment. Oh, 203 00:19:36,319 --> 00:19:40,640 now here here is the list of forges not at present in jail. M 204 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:45,519 hm, Well, what do we do with this? Check through and find 205 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:49,880 well there are anything for it. One of them must be a mad or 206 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,960 should be anyhow, or unless there's a newcomer, must say it couldn't be. 207 00:19:56,279 --> 00:20:00,079 Who is the chance of a newcomer? I suppose no, But the 208 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,160 work is so good it's probably an old hand. Don't forget there's a class 209 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:07,920 master, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's done this sort of thing, 210 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:15,279 and maybe time out of the bay. Before the detectives checked through the list, 211 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,319 it was a long job. Finally they came to one name they couldn't 212 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:27,920 check on. The name was Edward Charles Wilson. No Sonaman, I couldn't 213 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:33,119 get a lead anywhere on Wilson. You couldn't. Well, let's look at 214 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:41,640 his file. We got two years in nineteen forty nine for forteen tote tickets. 215 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,920 What a bad job done of them? Either? Were you in on 216 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,279 that? Oh no, no, no, I was on leave at the 217 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:52,720 time. I remember, all right, he's the only need to have, 218 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,640 the only chance we've got. Correct, You always acount for everybody else. 219 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:06,720 It's either Wilson or a newcomer. We'll forget the newcomer. We all look 220 00:21:06,759 --> 00:21:11,559 for Wilson, and I think the logical place is around the neighborhood of the 221 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:26,960 hiding place at Glebe m The detectives started their patrol of the Glebe district. 222 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:34,400 It was efficient and unobtrusive, and finally it got results. Benson, he's 223 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:41,960 right across the street at dun'd look on your right, coming this way, 224 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:49,599 turning down on a wattle street. Mum, hum, well, which one 225 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:56,839 the old dark Lucian? Right? You go after? I'll tail behind you, 226 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:02,400 And I hope he just in the right direction to the hiding place. 227 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:08,680 And doubt if he'll do that, but maybe he lives in that house anyway. 228 00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:17,240 Edward Charles Wilson was as followed as he went about Lee, peacefully attending 229 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:22,519 to his personal affairs. Finally he turned in at an old house the house 230 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:26,759 will he live? Ah the wrong place? Not so far from the hiding 231 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,920 place, Sir. He could easily be the man who a plant of the 232 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,240 stuff there. Yes, true enough, Well least the only need we've got 233 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:38,440 to be better years him another round the clock tail man. Yes, and 234 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,720 if we follow him long enough, he may lead us somewhere. Not the 235 00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:45,319 rate he's putting the tenors on the market now, it may not be so 236 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:56,880 long at that Edward Charles Wilson had no knowledge that his every move was watched 237 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:02,279 by the men of the CIB. He had only to set foot outside his 238 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,240 door, and they knew exactly what he did until the time he got back 239 00:23:04,279 --> 00:23:11,559 again. And the report that detectives Benson And'syler were making started to make interesting 240 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:15,279 reading. What do you make of it, Benson? This uh constant visiting 241 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:19,279 the post officers? I think what you think? That the letters he picks 242 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,920 up contained the forged tenant? Am? I right? So? Ye? 243 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:27,680 Cleverly? Un h. It means too that he never has more than one 244 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,680 on him at a time. Mum, No good trying to catch him with 245 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,319 a lot of the stuff. We've found out that the names he uses are 246 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,799 false names. That means organization making notes of the post office, and the 247 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,559 name he's put on the letter that he picked up. How do we move 248 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:47,960 in yet? We'll get a couple of those envelopes firs. Nothing like a 249 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,359 bit of evidence to wave in his face if it eventually comes to that. 250 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,680 Can you see him, Yes, he's at the counter now another packet, 251 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:06,880 Yes, similar type to the others. Which way is he coming out? 252 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,079 The other door? We lamble along behind, and if he throws the wrappings 253 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:21,680 away, we're not too proud to pick it up opening it now? Yes, 254 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:29,359 look out, he's stopping into this doorway to open the packet. Yes, 255 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,440 moving on, now, come on and listen. If he doesn't throw 256 00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:38,440 the wrapping away, I'll move in any there it goes, look in the 257 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:45,880 gutter, pick it up as we go past Rady right into this doorway with 258 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:52,160 it. That's what we want to right. Uh. Addressed to mister E. 259 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:56,480 C. Morgan, I want to lay a bet that this package contained 260 00:24:56,519 --> 00:25:02,799 phony tenners. Yeah, and I'll pay you Infernie tenners do. Come on, 261 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,319 let's get back to headquarters. Now we can move in on him and 262 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:22,519 Lysia. Mister Wilson's a bit shy of visitors. He's here all right, 263 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:32,200 can't hear him thinking? Man, not a sound? Come on inside? 264 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,440 Open this door? Who is it right the other side of the door, 265 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:49,960 Wilson? Open this door? I'm busy. What do you want? Are 266 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,559 you went with Charles Wilson? Don't you remember me? Wilson? You're Riley? 267 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,519 Detective Riley. That's right? What do you want? Were coming in? 268 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,799 We have a warrant here a warrant for your arrest. Come in then, 269 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:12,000 that nice little place you have here? Why have you come to arrest 270 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,680 me? We believe you're responsible for the counterfeit tenors that are being pushed out. 271 00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:22,319 Oh yeah, can't eat tenors. That's silly. Yes it might be, 272 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,000 and we might have made a mistake. We're going to search this space. 273 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,559 Whistle. I can't stop you if you can't, No, you can't, 274 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,480 All right, Riley, Let's see what we can find. You want 275 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,759 any help, you can sit there on that chair over there. You won't 276 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,200 find anything in this place to connect me with forged tenors. I know nothing 277 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,079 about it. We'll soon find out. Why do you pick on me? 278 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:52,960 It could be anybody true? Anything in there? Riley? Nothing no equipment 279 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,920 of any kind. Benson, and there's nothing in here. I are wasting 280 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,160 your time. I don't know why you should, why you should have got 281 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,200 a warrant out for a risk. Maybe we thought we had something to go 282 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:08,599 on. There's the books too, Uh, what's the spot? Lay that 283 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:18,119 alarm? Sit down? Sit down? Well? Well well tennis, beautiful 284 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:26,559 new phony tennis. How many here, Wilson, over four hundred? They 285 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,319 got the right sound too. You know you don't know just how good you 286 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,599 are, Wilson, Yes, I do, all right, where's the equipment 287 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,839 above you? What? Oh, there's an attic up there. Yeah, 288 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,519 I see the way. I'm gonna have a look. They're good, aren't 289 00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:48,880 they very good? Why did you do it? Wilson? I wanted money, 290 00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,799 I suppose we all do. I wanted money for a special purpose. 291 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,839 I haven't wasted one penny of what I got. What special purpose? I'm 292 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,799 working on? Some inventions? They cost money to finance. What sort of 293 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:08,599 inventions are all sorts? Work on cosmic rays to rain making experiments. It's 294 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:15,880 expensive. It costs money to experiment having any success. Who knows? Experiments 295 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,960 are never ended? No, you just keep going, And meanwhile you we're 296 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:25,240 making our currency look silly. You mean to say this was more or less 297 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:29,559 a spare time occupation while you carried on with your experiments. Yes, I 298 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:32,720 didn't need a huge fortune. That's enough to finance the things I had to 299 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:38,640 buy from time to time. Well, I'll be done. What's funny about 300 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:45,400 it? We had you taped as a huge gang international crooks, the works, 301 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,039 and all the time you just wanted a steady income so you could carry 302 00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:53,160 out a few experiments. To me, they were important experiments. I'm glad 303 00:28:53,160 --> 00:29:00,720 you said were because those days are over. Ley will not there a perfect 304 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:08,039 coming might stop up there. Stop. He's been turning out tennis with stuff 305 00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:18,960 that you could fit into a small suitcase. It was true. Cheap enameled 306 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,880 dishes, special developing paper, cameras, ink flets, acids, and mirrors 307 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:32,160 seemed to be practically all that Edward Charles Wilson needed. Wilson, how did 308 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:37,640 you do it? I studied, studied for six months, first at the 309 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,720 public library. I know as much about this game as any master engraver. 310 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,920 In fact, when you come to consider it, I am a master engraver. 311 00:29:48,079 --> 00:30:00,039 And I and so the master engraver was brought to justice. The Crown 312 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:06,839 Prosecutor joined with Wilson's defense counsel in agreeing that Wilson was a frustrated scientist who 313 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,640 had a natural fare for invention in other fields. Edward Charles Wilson could have 314 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,920 gone a long way, as it was. The men of your CIB had 315 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,880 brought him to court to hear from the judge that he was to serve seven 316 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:42,720 years jail. And that was the end of mister One by one Welcome Back. 317 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,240 The title of this episode and the criminal's nickname was inspired by nineteen forty 318 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:56,839 two novelty song hit Mister five by five, with the famous chorus mister five 319 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,880 by five, he's five feet tall and he's five feet Why he don't measure 320 00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:07,000 no more from head to toe than he do from side to side. The 321 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:14,200 episode had a somewhat Dragnet ask feel. An Australian version of Dragnet was produced 322 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,440 by Grace Gibson Production with an Australian cast and aired in nineteen fifty two. 323 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:25,480 In addition, Dragnet newspaper strips made their way to Australia from the US and 324 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,680 were reprinted as comic books, so the overall feel approach of Dragnet would have 325 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:37,559 been familiar to Australian audiences. It was an interesting investigation and all thanks to 326 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,039 the narrator, we knew what they'd find eventually, it was interesting to see 327 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:47,519 how the process played out for them to solve the case. I was initially 328 00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:51,559 confused by the use of pounds in the episode, but I found out that 329 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,799 Australia had its own pound until nineteen sixty six, when it changed to the 330 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:04,279 current Australian dollar. So I hope you enjoyed this little random obscurity. It 331 00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:10,160 was I think a really entertaining listen to a forgotten Australian radio program. Well, 332 00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:15,160 now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day. I want 333 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,880 to go ahead and thank William. William has been one of our Patreon supporters 334 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,839 since July, currently supporting us at the Detective Sergeant level of seven dollars and 335 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,640 fourteen cents or more per month. Thank you so much for your support, 336 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,720 William, and that will actually do it for today. 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You are, Oh, Danny, 345 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,160 don't you see, she's only telling you that for your own good. 346 00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:13,440 Don't argue with him, man, it isn't worth the effort. He'll go 347 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,839 along all his life feeling sorry for himself, wondering what everybody picks on him. 348 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,200 Why I've seen kids of ten with more stuff than he's got. Anything 349 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,200 else you would care to No, I've said my piece, Danny, anytime 350 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,799 you want to go, it's perfectly all right with me. Thanks for your 351 00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:28,519 permission, right, don't let him, Danny? Where'd you get that gun? 352 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,599 It's yours. I got a lot of your desk strayer, let me 353 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,720 have it. I'm sorry, friend, No can do, Danny. I 354 00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,599 want you to give me that gun. I don't like you be swelling me, 355 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,880 so please don't. Maybe do something I'll be sorry for. I'll say 356 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,319 where you are? Are you going to give me that gun? How? 357 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,799 Come closer next time, Mike, Danny, listen to me. I have 358 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200 Glorian. I've taken it very much, so heart so I'm just a kid 359 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:49,559 making big talk, am I? Well? Watch me changed for a matter 360 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,920 of I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime, do send 361 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,559 your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detective start nit, Follow us on Twitter 362 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,119 at Radio Detectives, and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, 363 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,880 slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. This is your host, Adam 364 00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:09,280 Graham signing off.