1 00:00:08,519 --> 00:00:13,000 Good afternoon. You're listening to Gambling with an Edge. Now here are your 2 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:18,719 host Bob Dancer and Richard Munchkin. Good afternoon, Welcome to Gambling with an 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,399 Edge on Bob Dancer and I'm Richard Munchkin. And then there were three three 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:30,199 episodes left. We're gonna have today's mailbag show. Next week we're going to 5 00:00:30,199 --> 00:00:36,600 talk to Michael Shackelford about his new version of Gambling one O two, and 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,399 then we're gonna have a last mailbag show. And then, as far as 7 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:46,399 we know right now, Gambling with an Edge is history. There's no plan 8 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,200 to bring it back, and who knows what the future will bring. Unless 9 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,960 we get a call or an email from one of those people that we tried 10 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,119 to get for years and years but never could, like Danny Conneman or James 11 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:04,000 gross Gene or someone like that, well we would make an exception and have 12 00:01:04,079 --> 00:01:08,359 to have another episode, but I don't foresee that happening. Yeah, that 13 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:15,799 would be good. I think who else would be anyway? Good. So, 14 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,359 when we announced a while ago that we were closing up, a lot 15 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:30,760 of you sent in final mailbag questions, and almost all of them were prefaced 16 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:34,359 with thank you, Bob and Richard, we appreciate what you've been doing. 17 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:40,120 I've been listening to your show for however long and it's made a big difference 18 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:46,439 in my life for my enjoyment level. And thank you. And there's been 19 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:51,760 a lot of these and I'm just going, well, you're welcome. I 20 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:57,239 enjoyed doing it. The we're not going away mad or anything like that. 21 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:02,200 It was it was just time to quit. But I got a lot of 22 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,360 it too. I know a whole lot more about gambling now than I did 23 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:13,360 when I started this, and I don't know a whole lot more people now 24 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,439 than when I started this, So I got a lot out of it. 25 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:23,599 The amount of money we got was rather trivial, but that wasn't really why 26 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:29,240 we were in there doing it, and and it was good, and we 27 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,719 still got three shows left. Richard, you saw these notes too, Huh. 28 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,520 Yeah. I got a lot of emails, a lot of messages on 29 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,360 Twitter, very much the same kind of thing. The thing I find most 30 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:47,719 gratifying was I got quite a few that were people saying I became a gambling 31 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:57,840 advantage player because of the show. Things I heard on the show either convinced 32 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,639 them to learn more and actually learn how to play with an edge. Some 33 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:10,639 of them have been extremely successful, and that's that's just really gratifying to me. 34 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,159 So yeah, it's been a it's been a great run. I I 35 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:21,400 also have learned a lot from the show, and I've made some just really 36 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:24,520 good friends because of the show, people I never would have met otherwise. 37 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:32,639 So it's been an all around positive. Yeah. Well, one other thing 38 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:38,199 we should address. I also got a lot of people saying, why don't 39 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:42,919 you turn the show over to somebody else or get some other hosts this kind 40 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:46,800 of thing, which you know, we are open to if we could find 41 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:53,639 the right person or people to do that. Most of the people that we 42 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:00,439 think would be good at it or either already have their own podcast or they 43 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840 are busy doing their own things that would preclude them from doing it. So 44 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:11,960 it is a possibility, but at the moment that's we don't have anybody that 45 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:18,040 would fill that bill. I also, I believe I will be back doing 46 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:26,079 something in some way eventually. I've been thinking a lot about YouTube shows, 47 00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:30,959 not the kind word. I go in and casino and sit and play slots 48 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:34,959 and go, oh, look how much I want. But because of my 49 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:41,000 background in film I've been thinking about that, and so I'm sure I will 50 00:04:41,079 --> 00:04:45,240 end up doing something eventually, but I have no idea what very good? 51 00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:49,399 All right? First is a video poker question after the deal and right up 52 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:54,160 to yes that you pressed it, rob, is the random number generators it 53 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,920 big along through the remaining forty seven cards, meaning that the timing of your 54 00:04:58,959 --> 00:05:02,800 button press will determine which cards you draw. Or is the order of the 55 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:08,319 deck already set after you hit the initial deal button and hit the draw button 56 00:05:08,519 --> 00:05:12,600 and you're just revealing the next one to five cards that are on top of 57 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:17,879 this remaining deck. My understanding is the cards are still zipping your term while 58 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:25,360 you're deciding what to play. My understanding is it doesn't matter. It's whether 59 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,680 they're already there and unknown to you or zipping along at a high speed. 60 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,959 Doesn't really matter. You don't know what they are until you hit the button, 61 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:41,120 and there's no clues that I know of that will tell you that hitting 62 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,279 the button now is better than hitting it and nan a second later. Next 63 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:51,800 question, I just got the Las Vegas Advisor cup on book. What is 64 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,879 the best way to use my free playoffers in my cup in book for video 65 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,480 poker. Would you just use the free play and stop and go to the 66 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:03,319 next casino, or would you do it as long of a session as you 67 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:10,120 can while still playing an advantage or would it depend on whether or not you 68 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,399 want to earn comps or status at this casino. Well, the casinos offer 69 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:17,360 these coupons to get you in the door, and hope you like the place 70 00:06:17,519 --> 00:06:21,800 and stay, and of course I hope you lose if you have any intention 71 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,959 of making this a place where you return, By all me, stay and 72 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,439 play. If there's no way in hell you'll play here without being bribed to 73 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:36,360 do so, play the minimum, collect your bonus and leave. Yeah. 74 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:42,079 I agree. If it's a place where you have a good game to play, 75 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,040 then you know it's just the equivalent of kind of finding a chip on 76 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:49,600 the floor or something. You're there to play anyway, so might as well 77 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,399 collect the coupound while you do it. And if not, yeah, cash 78 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:59,600 it and go. All right, I qualified for a free cruise through win 79 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,319 awards. Is it okay to just enjoy the cruiser at gambling? Or will 80 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,720 it affect my theoretical at win? Do you know anything about this, Richard? 81 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:12,800 I think it has nothing to do I mean, I don't know about 82 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:16,600 the WIN in particular, but the cruises that I've been on that came from 83 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,240 other casinos, what you do on the cruise has absolutely nothing to do with 84 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,639 your status at the casino. So when I went on the cruise, I 85 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:33,040 stiff them. It will affect your ability, I think to get free cruises 86 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,879 from the cruise line. You know, if you give them a certain amount 87 00:07:36,879 --> 00:07:42,240 of action, they will send you free cruises. But I don't think it 88 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:46,079 has any effect on your status at WIN at all. Yeah. Yeah, 89 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:53,759 I basically agree with that. I have gotten cruise offers from outside casino hosts 90 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:01,439 and there whether they give you another free cruise in the future depends on how 91 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:07,240 much you play this time because they deal with a cruise ship. But the 92 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:11,560 regular casino I don't think it matters. And I would just say, by 93 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,800 the way, if it's an outside cruise host, you are probably better off 94 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:22,600 go calling the cruise directly. Then going through that host. You could probably 95 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:26,519 get a better deal calling the cruise line and saying, hey, I'm willing 96 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,720 to put up this much money in front money or whatever, what are you 97 00:08:30,759 --> 00:08:35,759 give me. I have this status at Caesar's or wherever, well then you 98 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,279 have to play for sure. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. But 99 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:45,399 you're saying, when you've been contacted by these outside hosts, you just diff 100 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,879 the cruise and stiffen them. Well, there's a casino. Yeah, if 101 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:54,120 they're they deal with getting you into a lot of different casinos and so so 102 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:03,039 stiffing is um just with the terror Yeah yeah, because there they might be 103 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,200 on the cruise ship with you and they'll they'll notice the stiffing, whereas the 104 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:11,159 casino in general won't know. Now, if you're a if you're strictly a 105 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:18,279 video poker player, as I was through most of my gambling career, um, 106 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:22,720 it makes a lot of sense to stiff amount a cruise ship because almost 107 00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:28,399 always a video poker sucks really really badly. Um. There can be good 108 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:35,200 black jack games, there can be good poker games, there can be um 109 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,480 other games on the casino. That if that's what you play, that the 110 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:45,679 game in the casino can or the game and the cruisip can be almost as 111 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,639 good as the game in the casino. Um. And but cruise ships can 112 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:56,840 also bar you. They don't they won't kick you off the ship. Um, 113 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,039 unless you're doing a whole lot more than a whole lot more wrong than 114 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,320 swinning in the casino, but they can bar you from all. Right. 115 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Next question, in general, how long should an individual video poker session last? 116 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:16,080 How about if say, let's just twenty five dollars in free play? 117 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:22,120 Well, there is no in general answer. You need to consider such things 118 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:24,279 as how much play you need to keep the free play coming in the future. 119 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,320 Is this a one time deal or do you want to have a continuing 120 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:33,440 relationship with this casino? Is this some sort of promotion going on, perhaps 121 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,440 multiple points or earning tickets for a drawing that Do you think it's worthwhile? 122 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,159 Or maybe play a thousand points and qualify for such and such a something. 123 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,360 How much to play is as much of an art as it is a skill, 124 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:54,320 and different players have different levels of art. I basically play a different 125 00:10:54,320 --> 00:11:01,440 amount of every casino depending and there are eight or ten different factors I consider 126 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:05,600 specific to what games I play at, what denomination, my tier level, 127 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,759 comp level I hope to achieve, Do they offer enough at higher tiers to 128 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,399 interest me, etc. Even if you know that a casino a I tally 129 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,279 play ten thousand dollars coin every time I go in, or fifty thousand or 130 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,039 whatever. That may not very well be a good number for you to shoot 131 00:11:22,039 --> 00:11:28,200 at because your circumstances are very different. So the same kind of question is 132 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,679 Richard, is you know, like, how long should an individual blackjack session 133 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:39,879 last other than until you start getting too much heat? Well, well, 134 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:46,480 again, it really depends on the circumstances. But for a card counter, 135 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:54,159 there are many modern players now who you play until you get barred or you 136 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,480 don't leave because you think you have heat if you're a card counter, because 137 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,080 eventually you are going to get bart so just play until it happens. Now, 138 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,240 some people just hate getting barred, find it very stressful and don't want 139 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:16,559 to do that. And if you're playing more advanced strategies that the casino doesn't 140 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:22,759 really understand, then we make a determination of what we think the casino can 141 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:30,600 stomach and kind of play up to that level. And that can change depending 142 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,919 on the reactions of people and what's going on in the pit and things like 143 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:39,159 that. But as you say, it's it's more art than science in that 144 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,960 case. All right, next question, if you want to learn a new 145 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:50,120 language to help you as an ape, which one should it be, Richard 146 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,039 gem any thoughts on this, Well, I think if you're a poker player, 147 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,759 it should definitely be Chinese because the biggest poker action in the world is 148 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:07,600 over in Macau and China, and it would probably be advantageous to understand what 149 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:13,480 people are saying as to the other games. I don't think it. I 150 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:18,399 don't think it matters much. Yeah, I don't think it matters much. 151 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,519 And I'm thinking, well, I'm not a poker player, and I'm thinking 152 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:31,200 learning Mandarin might well be beyond my capabilities anyway. But there could be reasons. 153 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:39,519 If I was planning on traveling through South America or Latin America and going 154 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:46,320 to be playing some games, then learning Spanish might be useful. There's enough 155 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,879 different places there, some of which have good games, that it could be 156 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:58,200 useful. Also, I Spanish in high school, and so I have a 157 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,440 leg up the I'm now seventy six. Learning a new language is just really, 158 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,480 really, really tough, so it's probably not going to happen, but 159 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:13,639 I would find out a reason to do it. If I was going to 160 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,759 make a trip through Poland, I don't think I would take the time to 161 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:22,720 learn Polish fluently before I made that trip. I don't think it would be 162 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:31,480 cost effective. Although there are people who might like might enjoy learning your languages, 163 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:37,000 and there would be that. Another way to answer the question for a 164 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:43,639 new language to help you with an AP, it might be a computer programming 165 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:50,879 language. If you have computer programming skills and can apply that to your AP 166 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,919 work, that will definitely help you. Now, if you if you have 167 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:03,320 another friend who has h you can get this work done somebody else who will 168 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,200 give it to you or sell it to you. Fine, But having access 169 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:18,080 to good computer programming definitely help you in a number of casino games. Yeah, 170 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:26,399 that's a good point. Programming languages. Yeah, I'm a traveling little 171 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:35,559 roller who pushes buttons occasionally counts. I think that means play slots and occasionally 172 00:15:35,639 --> 00:15:41,679 counts. KO preferred by no means a James gross cheen. I'm interested in 173 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:46,799 video poker progressive. Which game would be the best to learn? Or could 174 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,399 I buy one of each of your coming strategy cards and be ready to play 175 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,519 anything? I think they'll bring any heat? Is it worthwhile learning video poker? 176 00:15:54,639 --> 00:16:00,120 Or am I spreading yourself too thin? All right here? When or 177 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:06,639 even if these video poker progressive strategy cards will be available? I have several 178 00:16:06,919 --> 00:16:11,679 projects in the work somewhere, with not much work being done on any of 179 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:17,559 them currently, So I just don't know. It could be I will find 180 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:23,440 the motivation and within six months published ten different progressive games, And it could 181 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:26,320 be it never happens at all. I just I just truly don't know. 182 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:37,159 Now. In in Vegas, the most common progressive is nine to five double 183 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,879 double Bonus. I don't know how frequent that is elsewhere. It's going to 184 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:48,080 take a lot of work to get up to speed on that game, especially 185 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:56,600 since you need they frequently are combined. In addition to the progressive on the 186 00:16:56,679 --> 00:17:02,080 Royal, they have progressives on the four aces for here for two threes and 187 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,839 fours of the Kicker, etc. So learning video poker from scratch, either 188 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:14,759 progressive or otherwise, is not a trivial matter. It can be worthwhile. 189 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:21,839 The heyday video poker has come and gone, there are still opportunities out there, 190 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:26,079 and I'm still spending most of my gambling hours playing video poker, and 191 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,240 there are other people who are doing it as well and doing well. But 192 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:37,720 it is nowhere near as prevalent or as commonplace to find profitable video poker games 193 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,680 as it was five years, ten years, twenty years ago. Example. 194 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:48,240 Next question, Richard, I'm worried about wins adding up on my card from 195 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:52,480 slot play at my locals, which I've avoided counting at. So it's not 196 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:56,480 to what do y'all think about playing a break even spread so I can rat 197 00:17:56,519 --> 00:18:06,160 hole and exaggerate my losses. Well, I would concentrate more on trying to 198 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,920 generate losses on slot machines. But yeah, I don't think much of that 199 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:17,720 plan. I think you're better off. I don't think they look at lifetime 200 00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:22,519 win of slot players the way they do lifetime win of table games players, 201 00:18:23,079 --> 00:18:30,039 and the idea could actually backfire on you because if you were playing some low 202 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,599 break even spread and some you know, guy who used to be a hall 203 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,119 monitor when he was in high school decides and I think this guy looks suspicious. 204 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,039 Let me look into him, and then he suddenly goes, Wow, 205 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:47,519 look at all this win on slot machines this guy has, so you know, 206 00:18:47,599 --> 00:18:51,640 maybe he is a wise guy. So I wouldn't I wouldn't do that. 207 00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:57,400 I would just take your win, maybe find some ways to generate some 208 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,000 losses on slots, which if you get creative, you can do that and 209 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,599 yeah, I wouldn't mix the two. Okay, next question, I want 210 00:19:08,599 --> 00:19:15,279 to record the latter part of my video poker sessions to evaluate my accuracy after 211 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:19,359 a few hours. I plan to use an iPhone in a shirt pocket without 212 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:26,160 notifying a casino. Have you ever done this or something like this? Well 213 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,680 I haven't. It sounds like a reasonable idea. It's time consuming, and 214 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:37,440 you have to know the correct play when you watch, because you have to 215 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:45,440 go back afterwards and evaluate. And there isn't a way too that I know 216 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:51,640 about, to use that data and plug it into a computer program to give 217 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,240 you the information. So you have to know the play, be able to 218 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:59,759 recognize it. And if you don't know the right plays when you're fresh, 219 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:04,400 certainly aren't going to know him when you're tired. It's probably a better idea 220 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:11,920 to use casino software like wind Poker or video Poker for winners. If you 221 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,079 still have a copy that works, the software will tell you how many airs 222 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:21,160 you're making in how big those airs are. Recording over an iPhone won't give 223 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:27,400 you that information, so you need you need the computer analysis. Yeah, 224 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:32,559 and if you want to do it when you're tired, then wait till after 225 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:34,960 you've finished the session and then go home and do it right after that. 226 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,200 So you're already a little burnt out. I mean, you've had whatever break 227 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,519 there was, the time it took you to get home, but you're probably 228 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:49,160 still a little burnt out. Yeah. Can you recommend some books about Las 229 00:20:49,279 --> 00:20:56,480 Vegas that you recommend? I'm assuming you're talking about it after you read sex, 230 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:00,960 lies and video poker. I was assuming that was He didn't say that 231 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,559 in the question, but I assume that's part of it. And gambling and 232 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:11,359 gambling, Yes, Uh, did you have any how would you answer that? 233 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,440 Boy? There's a lot. I mean, I love these kinds of 234 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,079 books, so I've read a lot of them. Some of them that stick 235 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:25,519 out to me and authors we've had on the show, Smoking Aces, the 236 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:30,839 biography of Benny Binion Lay the favorite Beth Raymer, who wrote that was on 237 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:37,279 the show at the very very beginning about her working for Dank the Sports Better 238 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,359 the I always mess up the title and I should have looked it up ahead 239 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,279 of time. I think it's called The Professor, the Banker, and the 240 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:51,839 Suicide King, which is about Andy Beale coming to town and playing the biggest 241 00:21:51,839 --> 00:21:57,160 poker players. Oh, the book Casino, which the movie was based on. 242 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,440 We've had m. David Schwartz on the show quite a number of times 243 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:10,039 talking about he wrote a history of Circus Circus and Jay Sarno and then and 244 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,480 one about the Sands. Those are some of the first ones that, oh, 245 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,400 you know, one of the things. There were some books that I 246 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,319 was fascinated by as a teenager that were written by a guy who was a 247 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:26,559 pit boss at the Dunes, and I think his name was Mike Goodwin, 248 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:33,200 either Goodwin or Goodman, and he wrote two of them, and it was 249 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:37,920 just full of stories of things that happened in the casino from the perspective of 250 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,559 a guy who was a pit boss. And I just loved those books when 251 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:48,319 I was Those are the first ones that come to mind for me. Yeah, 252 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:57,279 some from me might include books by Michael Kaplan, who used to who 253 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:00,599 has a number of books, some of which have to do with casinos. 254 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:10,960 Another one would be a lot of the books by Walter Tevis, whom which 255 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,599 would include The Hustler and The Color of Money, which are gambling books in 256 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:21,839 that case about game of pool, rather than I think it's in specific, 257 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:29,759 but um, I think I think that would matter a lot um. There 258 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:37,880 are a lot of poker books that are written as m as, like hit 259 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,799 me hallaballah. What was that where? Oh? Yeah, yeah something hallaballah. 260 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,559 Yeah, yeah, that was a good one, by the way. 261 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:52,079 Oh, Mike Sexton's book also, I forgot the name of Mike Sexton's book, 262 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,359 and that was really one of one of our best episodes. I thought, 263 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:02,119 so if you might want to check out that episode in addition, but 264 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:08,880 yeah, his book was really and Michael Tonic had a number of books. 265 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:15,480 M One had to do a collection of short stories, including The Man with 266 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:22,000 one hundred thousand dollars Breaths, and there were a lot of um stories in 267 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:30,559 their short stories that had to do with gambling um and nonfiction we should say 268 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:36,000 not short stories, not fiction stories, but nonfiction stories. They came from 269 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,319 articles when he was the writer for Cigar Ficionado. Yeah. Uh, and 270 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:48,799 we've There's There's the book on the twenty one was based on bringing down the 271 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:53,279 House. Yeah, bringing Down the House by Ben Mezrick. Yeah. And 272 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:59,279 Ben Mendrick had three or four gambling books. Yeah. I think the other 273 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:03,240 one was called Breaking Vegas, the one that was about Semi and Doukash. 274 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,480 Yeah, and there were there were there were three or four of those and 275 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:15,160 definitely look at those and uh. And then there's the pressing books, the 276 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,160 you know, being busted in Vegas or you know down and out in Vegas 277 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,799 and stuff like that. Leaving Las Vegas is yeah, oh yeah. The 278 00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:30,920 other one was the uh, the Hunter Thompson book Fear Loathing in Las Vegas, 279 00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:37,279 which is just a you know, drug fueled insanity if that's your thing. 280 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:48,359 And the book The Grifters has a scene in Vegas. Uh, and 281 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,880 that was oh, I forgot his name the author. He had a number 282 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:59,960 of books, Um, Jim Thompson. So he wrote a number of book 283 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:07,279 about gambling and other subjects. Good. That'll get you started. If you 284 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:15,960 go to your library car index and type in Vegas, it will give you 285 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:25,559 two hundred books in with that word in the title. And that might give 286 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,440 you some more places. Even if you stick to that general you're ever going 287 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:36,960 to run out. There's a lot of a lot of those books, all 288 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:42,720 right. The next question is about Ultimate X gold and do the multipliers influence 289 00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:48,720 you to deviate from the standard single line video poker strategy. For example, 290 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:55,559 in Ultimate X Gold double Bonus, if I'm dealt two pairs such as queens 291 00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:59,759 and twos with no full house multiplier and an eight X on two threes or 292 00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:03,759 four what I dropped the queens. Have you or anyone else written a strategy 293 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:10,640 for ultimate X goal? Okay, without commenting on that particular hand, I 294 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:18,440 do ultimate X goals. I do make adjustments in the strategy. And this 295 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:23,880 is a game where you get multipliers and they stay until you him and they 296 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,799 build, so like every time you get a high pair, then the multipliers 297 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,920 for three of a kind and two pair increase. And if you get a 298 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:40,519 dealt flush, well that might increase the multipliers for flush and straights, full 299 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:47,160 houses and maybe some form of a kinds. So there are and you keep 300 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,960 those multipliers are keep going up. They build until they reach the max, 301 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:56,279 which they stay there until their hit. And so the base gaim in ultimate 302 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,079 X goal is around fifty percent. If you have no multipliers, it's fifty 303 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:07,160 percent. Although you cannot have no multipliers day, they always give you at 304 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:14,519 least one or two for like Jack's are Better, which isn't one of the 305 00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:22,160 simpler ultimate X goal. There are more than three thousand different combinations of multipliers 306 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:29,160 for one game such as with the three two pair with this much or that 307 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,680 much, and three of a kind with this much, this much or this 308 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,640 much, and flush with this much, this much, the straight, etc. 309 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:40,559 More than three thousand combinations, which means there are more than three thousand 310 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:49,880 strategies for this game. So nobody is going to create a strategy for one 311 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:56,440 game. It has three thousand different states it has to cover, and especially 312 00:28:56,519 --> 00:29:02,519 when there's fifteen different games in in the Ultimate X catalog. So for the 313 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:07,440 most part, you're on your own. Final question from somebody, I can't 314 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,079 remember which show this is from, you guys mentioned a guy that lives on 315 00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:15,000 his boat and travels the world hitting up juicy promotions such as two for one 316 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:21,440 blackjack payouts. Do you know the guy that I'm talking about? Can you 317 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,480 talk a little bit more about him? He seems like the ultimate AP And 318 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,920 I have no recollection of this, do you? Richard? Vaguely, I 319 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,319 don't remember talking about this on the A. I don't remember talking about this 320 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,839 on the air. But I do know a guy who has a very large 321 00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:48,920 boat and does play promotions and things that he finds in various parts of the 322 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:55,599 world. But I don't know him well. And I don't know that much 323 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,359 about him if it's the guy I'm thinking of. But yeah, so I 324 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:07,599 yeah, I really can't. I have nothing worth saying other than that. 325 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:14,000 Yeah, it seems I mean, obviously he's a very wealthy guy already, 326 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,400 so I don't think he's playing tons and tons of hours. Yeah, you 327 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,279 know, traveling a thousand miles on a boat, play a two for one 328 00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:30,480 blackjack promotion. This generally would not make financial sense. Promotion never gonna last 329 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:37,480 long enough for you to recoup what it costs to go that far. But 330 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,680 of course, if you like being on the water and you have enjoy your 331 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:47,559 travel companions, sounds like a nice life, all right. Next question, 332 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,559 If a particular video poker machine it's found to be giving more cases than to 333 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,839 be expected, can this casino do something to the machine to make it con 334 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:04,960 formed to the average. And the answer is nope. They can change pay 335 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,119 schedules, they can remove the machine, but the machine is just randomly dealing 336 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,359 cards. Even with random dealing, there will be periods of time whereafter the 337 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:22,960 fact, a machine will have had hot and cold spells, and it could 338 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:30,640 be that over a relatively short period of time, there's more that you are 339 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,559 gotten four aces more often than average or less often than average, But the 340 00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:40,519 machine itself when other people are playing it too, does not have it does 341 00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:47,400 not have them, So the answer is no. Next question is blackjack. 342 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,920 Regarding optimal trip strategy for playing blackjack for comps and promoting, would you avoid 343 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:59,759 mixing low spread playing for comps at certain change or properties with a large spread 344 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,839 play until they back you off strategy and others on the same trip. It 345 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:12,039 depends on the venue, on the location, because in some places they're going 346 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,240 to flier you to all the other casinos in that area, so you could 347 00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:20,519 end up getting thrown out of your hotel room in the middle of the night. 348 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,160 So yeah, I would not. And the danger there is if that 349 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,440 does happen, then the place where you were staying they know you, they 350 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,359 know your name, and so they have all your personal information as well, 351 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,799 So I would not do that. If you're going to go count cards, 352 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:45,920 I would not stay in the casino. Um I would stay, you know, 353 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:52,720 in a Hilton or something and and and stay anonymous in the casino. 354 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,319 Now, if you're playing just for comps, then fine, yeah, just 355 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,799 go and work the comp game. Separate question somewhat similar is it worth trying 356 00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:09,200 four to six hours a relatively square a play and reopened casino and chain to 357 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:15,359 see if there are any comps or invitation only promotions that could be exploited before 358 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,440 throwing huge bedspreads in their face and wearing out my welcome. Yeah, sure 359 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,920 there's value. There's a value in that. I mean, you're not giving 360 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,599 up much, if anything at all, and you can see what kind of 361 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:35,079 mail that you get from them. Sure, you know, but I definitely 362 00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:38,119 would not try to play, you know, blackcheck or a table game in 363 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:44,079 the first couple of days that a casino opens, because the casinos have learned. 364 00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:49,160 It used to be that card counters and other advantage players would swarm to 365 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,400 a place when it opened, and the casinos learned that, and so they 366 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,119 were ready and they were throwing people out left and right when a place opens. 367 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,119 So I would not do anything that I get you, you know, 368 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,880 noticed or thrown out the first week. But if you go in and play 369 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,320 with not really an edge, just to see what kind of mail you might 370 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,639 get, but now you might have to wait a couple of months before you 371 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,840 get the mail. So yeah, I mean, Bob, you do this 372 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,159 with video poker right, So you go in and when they first opened, 373 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:24,320 because you don't know what games they might have, and usually they're looser when 374 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:31,599 they first open. They might be looser. They depends on who set up 375 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:37,480 the games. If it is a if it's a guy, if a slot 376 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:43,599 director. His highest rank earlier was assistant slot director. A lot of his 377 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,320 eyes haven't a lot of his ideas haven't been kemper over time, and so 378 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,840 he's going to make a lot of mistakes. But it's also different in video 379 00:34:53,920 --> 00:35:00,920 poker. I'm getting a player's card and I'm giving up my ID day one 380 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:07,039 because in video poker, so much of the return is in the slot club 381 00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:15,639 and the comps and the promotion there are so um for black. The strategy 382 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:22,079 generally is not to give up your ID now if you're if you're playing relatively 383 00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:27,039 square, to see if you get comps now they have your name idea. 384 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,400 After that burns out, you're going back later and trying to play huge until 385 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,880 they kick you out. Well, you're already in the system. They may 386 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:45,000 they may able to put your current face with with your face that you gave 387 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,000 with the name that you gave him you got the comps. Whenever it was 388 00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:55,159 that you did that. 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Do they have casinos? Um? You know what? 423 00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:54,480 You know? How deserted? So I decided to bring out my teenager side 424 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,639 and figure and make me a lot younger with a nice companion. And if 425 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:05,960 my favorite game is UM, I guess you'd call a Hide deweeny Uh. 426 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,559 We had nothing, but it is a whole lot of fun and it is 427 00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,719 definitely an advantage play. I would feel better, Richard, how do you 428 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,559 do with this question? Yeah? I don't know. The guy you're with 429 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,920 might not be into that game, Bob. Anyway, my first thought was, 430 00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:29,320 ah, well, I should pick bridge because I get a deck of 431 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,800 cards, and once you have a deck of cards, you can play lots 432 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,559 of games. And I don't know if I picked for interest, does that 433 00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:39,039 mean there's three other people there with me, which would also help a lot. 434 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,679 And I thought well maybe, yeah, maybe that's not allowed to you 435 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,840 know, the other thing about having a deck of cards is, you know, 436 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,239 I could work on like magic stuff, you know, which I've always 437 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,320 been interested in. But if, if, if you were not allowed to 438 00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:00,599 use cards, it would be either chess or Backhammon. I have been playing 439 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:08,199 chess since I was very very little and still play and I love the game, 440 00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:14,440 or Backhammon. The other thing about Backhammon is you have, you know, 441 00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,719 thirty checkers to play with that you can maybe create other games with. 442 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:23,519 And both those games have variants, right, so you're not stuck with just 443 00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:28,440 one game with either of those things. The one thing about chess, though, 444 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:32,000 is it's really hard to get better in a vacuum without any books or 445 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,119 software. Just trying to improve on your own is really hard, whereas in 446 00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:43,440 Backhammon in the old days, you could take a position and roll it out 447 00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,920 yourself, you know, a bunch of times to try to learn things. 448 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,119 So I guess if I'm not allowed to take cards, then I guess I 449 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:55,079 would choose Backhammon. I don't know, are we allowed to up our computer? 450 00:40:55,159 --> 00:41:00,480 And do we have internet on this deserted island? Because I had that 451 00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:07,280 I might take choose Hearthstone. Yeah, yeah, can we get a Netflix 452 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:14,320 subscription while we're there? Okay, next question. I believe you mentioned on 453 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,199 the show that there's no certain way of knowing you're in the database, other 454 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,239 than they have someone on the other side inform you. Unfortunately, when I 455 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,800 started counting, I was under the impression that if you played uncarded at twenty 456 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,559 five dollar minimum tables, it would be a red flag, while I try 457 00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:36,119 to play with modest bread at double decked table. Similar progress, Carlson. 458 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:40,199 I've managed to get backed off under my name in about twenty places, primarily 459 00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:47,559 mostly around two thousand and six to two thousand and eight in Nevadam, a 460 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:52,840 few Louisiana and Mississippi. What would you say the chances are that I'm still 461 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:59,360 in the database, Richard? Well, once you're in, you're always in. 462 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:05,159 I mean, it never gets deleted, so you're definitely in. And 463 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,960 if you were playing in Las Vegas in Nevada, you know you're in the 464 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:15,400 Caesar's database, and you're in the MGM database, and you're probably in OSN. 465 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,960 I mean, yeah, probably, I would just going forward, I 466 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,119 would just assume, yes, you were in the database. Now The good 467 00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:30,199 news is if this was two thousand and six or two thousand and eight, 468 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:36,960 it means that you're not at the top of the pile. And the only 469 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,400 way they would find you is if they have your name and they go digging 470 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:49,719 through the database, which you know they usually are not willing to do so. 471 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,000 I wouldn't worry about it much, but I would not use your name 472 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,880 again. Do not use a player's card. We just had an episode of 473 00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:05,039 Blackjack Roundtable with one of the players burn it down. The house is playing 474 00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:08,119 one hundred hours a month, betting up to two hands of a thousand, 475 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:14,599 and he does not use a player's card. This idea that you can't bet 476 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:21,360 big money without a player's card is just false. It's people who are afraid 477 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,119 to say no to the pit boss. Just don't do it. As Nancy 478 00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:31,840 Reagan taught us all, just say no. Next question for Richard. Let's 479 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,800 say you're playing quickly and go from one hands to two hands. It's not 480 00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:40,400 uncommon for the dealer to miss that second hand, creating a missdeal. It 481 00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:46,400 will also often be resolved favorably for you, often giving you some type of 482 00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:51,639 free role or opt out. I don't want this to occur more than one 483 00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:55,079 succession to avoid drawing too much attention from the floor and then becoming less friendly 484 00:43:55,119 --> 00:44:01,400 and resolving subsequent missdeals. How do you feel about that scenario? Sounds good 485 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,440 to me. I mean, anytime, anytime you get a mistake that can 486 00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:14,079 work in your favor seems like a free roll to me. So, I 487 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,880 mean, I agree, you don't want you can very easily get the dealer 488 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:22,199 pissed off at you if it happens more than once. They need to learn 489 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:27,239 to slow down that and you can just save them. Look, sometimes I 490 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,719 go to two hands, so you know. But yeah, I mean it 491 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,880 seems seems good to me. All right. Next question, It seems that 492 00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:42,159 Sunset Station and maybe other stations have thrown a wrinkle in Arnold Snyder's cover play 493 00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:47,840 mentioned in Radical Blackjack and discussed on the show of doubling on twelve against two 494 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,519 or three for much less. Some Geniuses Station has decided that you can utle 495 00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:58,599 down for less to the table minimum. So now, when a player is 496 00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:04,840 doubling with an advantage of doubling correctly, stations is insisting that the player bet 497 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,599 more. Uh I would I think it'd be giving him too much credit to 498 00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:15,679 think they were doing it as a countermeasure to Arnold's cover play. Any thoughts 499 00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:21,039 on that reg Well, first of all, I never tried to double for 500 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,039 less than the table minimum. I wasn't aware that there were any casinos that 501 00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:32,400 allowed you to do that. But yeah, I'm just surprised. So it 502 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,599 doesn't surprise me that if you're doubling for less, you still have to double 503 00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:42,519 for the minimum. Yeah. But yeah, So what I'm guessing is this 504 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:51,639 particular player plays relatively close to the minimum, and so if his big bet 505 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:58,480 is twenty five dollars on a five dollars table, betting for less with five 506 00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:04,320 dollars is different senage wise and betting for less with one dollar, then yeah, 507 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,159 then if he was betting one hundred dollars and and betting five from them, 508 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:14,880 yeah yeah, So yeah, it's with Arnold that he's betting more than 509 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,840 a hundred and he's not betting on one hundred holland minimum tables when he does 510 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,800 this. And absolutely the casino doesn't have a clue about that. I mean, 511 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:28,880 they what happens is they find it annoying if you're betting, let's say 512 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,039 you're at a twenty five dollars table and you're trying to double for less for 513 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:36,840 a dollar. I mean it means they have to call somebody over and then 514 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,719 he has to look and he's like, oh, is that even allowed? 515 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:45,119 And you know, it just slows everything down and it annoys them so And 516 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:49,199 it would not surprise me if this rule was just made up by whoever the 517 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,800 boss was in the pit at the time. I mean, maybe maybe it 518 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:58,800 came down from on high, but yeah, it just they just find it 519 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,599 annoying and don't want to deal with it. I'm sure that's why it happened. 520 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,840 Okay, As of a few months ago, Void Properties started accepting slot 521 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,480 tickets for buy ins at the table. Therefore, I've been going buy a 522 00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:16,159 machine and throwing in a couple of bills and playing a few hands to avoid 523 00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:21,719 a round number and taking that to the table, along with some comment about 524 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,800 hoping to do better at the tables. You can also exchange your chips for 525 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,440 a ticket when leaving the table, which could be useful in avoiding the cage, 526 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:32,280 but I suspect that there's some limits to how much you can exchange, 527 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:38,079 especially when uncarded, which I now do now I didn't know any of this. 528 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:44,280 That sounds interesting. I suspect a lot of our listeners would want to 529 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,880 take advantage of that. Yeah, I'm wondering where that is. So they 530 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,519 must, so they have printers at every table to give you a slot ticket. 531 00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,760 I mean it sounds like a good idea from the casino's perspective, because 532 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,000 maybe the guy will go take his money and stick in the slot machine. 533 00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:05,039 But yeah, this is the first I've heard of this, But I like 534 00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:07,159 the idea. I like the idea. I mean, if you're a big 535 00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:13,320 player, you can't really show up with a lot. But it would also 536 00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:16,880 you know, if you went in and got some two thousand dollars tickets ahead 537 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:23,199 of time, you know, and save them for a couple of days, 538 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:30,199 you would be able to get in much more before hitting the CTR th threshold. 539 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,840 So yeah, you know, put in a thousand and play two hands 540 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:39,000 to get nine five or ten thirty five or something good. All right, 541 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:46,239 So we're going to call the session quits. We next week we're gonna be 542 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,519 talking to Michael Shackelford, and then we're going to be coming back and doing 543 00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:58,159 one last mail big show. Since almost all of answers today have kind of 544 00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:04,519 been recommendations. We're not going to do a regular recommendation on this show unless, 545 00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,199 Richard, you have one that you're just dying to get out there that 546 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,679 you haven't been able to say yet. Well, you know, I just 547 00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:15,360 something happened this morning that I thought was funny. I started watching a show 548 00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:20,760 last night on Netflix called The Night Agent, and I was like, oh, 549 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,679 this is really good. I ended up watching like three episodes in a 550 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:28,280 row. And then this morning I read Stephen King is saying that this new 551 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,280 show on Netflix is just exceptional, and yeah, and it was the same 552 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:38,800 show. So me and Stephen King would like to recommend a show on Netflix 553 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,480 called The Night Agent. And it's the kind of shows I've recommended a lot. 554 00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:51,280 You know, it's action suspense. You know, who's the bad guy 555 00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:58,159 in this particular case, the it's a girl who witnessed a murder and the 556 00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:02,280 guy the guy helping her as an FBI agent. So it's that kind of 557 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,199 show. But it's well done, very good. Thank you, Richard, 558 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:13,800 Thank you to all our listeners for providing the fodder for this show. We're 559 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:20,679 not going to suggest that you send in anymore because there we already have the 560 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,920 questions for our next show. We're not closing out the email account, so 561 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,639 I suppose they could add up there in case we ever decided to come back 562 00:50:29,639 --> 00:50:35,679 in four months and do us for the Moment show and post it out there. 563 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,239 That could be possible. It would without commercials, but we actually might 564 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,559 do that. I don't know. We haven't thought that far ahead yet. 565 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,039 So thank you, Richard, you and Stephen King, Thank you Stephen King. 566 00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:52,239 Why not and go out and hit lots of royal flushes? Everybody? 567 00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:53,920 Good day,