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M M. March twenty nine,
twenty sixteen is upon us, and so

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is another edition of the Giant Bomb
cast on Brad Shoemaker. We're here with

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me as always, Hud Jeff Kersman, the Final Frontier hundred Scandlin Hi Havan

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record. Hello, Hello, we
made it. Yes, we're here on

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the edge, We're here on the
other side. Yep, we made it.

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We made it through. Yes,
what did we make it through?

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We made it through the launch of
virtual reality. Yeah, it's on the

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market now for the people who paid
for it three or to five years ago.

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Yeah, yeah, if you back
that Kickstarter and twenty I guess yeah,

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other people are. I guess it's
gonna probably start to get theirs this

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week because we are the pre order
people getting it now, like order,

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they're starting to ship now. What
it sound What it sounded like was the

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people who got it yesterday, which
was technically launched day, were the people

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who backed that kick Starter. Did
you get that jet? You got here?

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Okay, but but I didn't see
anybody who got in on the pre

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orders. When when the pre orders
having January? Oh god, I don't

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know, it's all a blur.
It's been a few weeks ago, and

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I saw any time before the launch
of virtual reality. It's insignificantly true.

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Yes, it's it's it's it's basically
the time period referred to as BVR.

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Yeah, we're all wearing the rift
right now. We are. We are

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on day one a VR ant.
Uh. Yeah. I saw numerous people

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who got in on the origin or
the initial wave of pre orders back in

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like January or whatever. It was
very sad yesterday that they had not gotten

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their rift. Yeah. They they
hand delivered one to the first person who

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pre ordered over the weekend. Yeah. Uh, they flew Palmer out to

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Palmer Lucky Vaculus. They they flew
him to Alaska to hand deliver it and

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then apparently didn't give the guy the
software needed to actually use it ahead of

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release, which is funny. You
got it, you can put it on.

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Made for a good photo op.
Yeah, get all the wires done,

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all that stuff. Save some time. No, well, so the

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setup process, the software installer is
actually the thing that walks you through wind

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to plug in the wires and stuff
up. So like you could just plug

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it in, but I would maybe
recommend against it. Uh yeah, how

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long did that take? Not long? No, Okay, that's good to

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know. Should do anything with it. Yeah, like so yeah, even

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hours in the office. For those
of you who didn't see it. On

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Monday, we spent eleven hours something
like that, twelve eleven and a half

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yeah, yeah, hours live streaming
the entire Oculus launch lineup, because that's

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you know, it's a system launch
more or less. Yeah, basically like

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thirty thirty ish games. It was
like, okay, let's let's actually run

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through this stuff and see what the
hell it is everything from a normal system

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launch, new games. Games that
reports experiences, h huh yeah, sure,

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things that. Yeah, we're barely
games fight tech tilst I was on

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a boat and the Grand Canyon.
It's true. Yeah, it's an experience,

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that's true. It's like you were
there. I could change the speed

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of the boat. So I guess
that's a game technically. Yeah, I

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mean, yes, it's interactive.
It's interactive. Yeah. Yeah. So

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it's yeah that that we did all
that stuff and we've come out the other

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end. My throat is a little
just like my voice is not great from

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yelling our way through VR all day
yesterday. But whatever that that's uh,

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that's going up on the side or
it's up on there's archives out there on

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it's on the internet, giant bomb
dot com if you want to see that

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stuff. And yeah, so,
uh so I left and and kind of

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figured that the Occulus rift that I
had gotten by backing this kickstarter years ago

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would be waiting for me when I
got home, and sure enough it was.

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Uh And initially I was like,
well, there's no way I'm gonna

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hook that thing up, because like, I just got done doing this stuff

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and I don't know that I think
any of these games are that great.

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And then I got home. As
I was thinking about all the way home,

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I was like, you know,
I really want to see what this

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thing does, because I have a
so we have a PC here that Oculus

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sent over that meets meets there like
a minimum spec. Yeah, it was

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interesting that they didn't send like a
five thousand dollars monster like you would expect.

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Yeah. Usually when when tech companies
do hardware stuff and they want to

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send stuff out, they tend to
over deliver respects front. So you go

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like, man, this is great. I was expecting like some water cooled

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monstrosity with three titans. And well, that's the scary part is that that

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that would actually be beneficial to some
of the performance on some of the Oculus

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games if you had something like that. So they sent over something that had

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a nine seventy in it, which
is no slouch of a video card,

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but that is their minimum, and
like a current five. Yeah, but

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I thought that was kind of cool
though actually it was like here, here

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is a more more more realist.
Yeah, more reasonable depends on your perspective.

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I guess that's to see that.
Yeah, I mean that machine is

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attainable for more everyday people. Yeah, sure. Yeah. So at home,

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I have a nine eighty, but
I have an I five t K

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in that thing. And so I
was curious if I was over delivering on

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GPU but under delivering on CPU,
what does that mean? Uh? So

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I got home and I was like, fuck, all right, it turns

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out my my CPU is already overclocked
to about four point two gig hurts.

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I did that a while ago and
forgot. Uh it didn't make them look

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a difference when I did it back
now. Yeah, No, that's all

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stock cooling. It never it never
actually does. So I hooked all this

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stuff up at home and like the
first thing. So first thing is as

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soon as it detects all your stuff. There's a big blue bar at the

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top of their store, uh the
outside of VR store that says, Hey,

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your your PC. It's not up
to par. You might have problems

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with experiences in VR, or or
the the VR experience could be poor,

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the the exact verbage whatever. That
also shows in VR every time you're in

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like their front end, like anytime
you hit the home button in a game

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to pop up like their menu or
their store. It's always at the top

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just X that I don't know.
There's no way to close it. It's

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constantly reminding you that you don't have
a PC that's good enough. No,

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don't show me this again. No
almost, which I which I totally get

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because like, the specs for this
thing are so weird or or are so

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are pretty lofty. Yeah, that
like, and the the negative effects of

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an underpowered PC and VR are such
that they don't want to take the blame

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for it. They want to remind
you every step of the way. Hey,

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we we are telling you this PC
is not the thing to do this

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with. And as it turns out, my PC is not the thing to

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do this. Really was it worse
than what we had to hear way like

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like, so, so it depends
on the game. Darknet runs fine very

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you know, you know, you
know, it's it's it's a puzzle game.

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It's not it's not super deep.
The Oculus dream Deck stuff that comes

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out of the installation process where it's
like, oh, here's a dinosaur walking

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over. That was fine. VR
video was great. Eve Valkyrie not playable

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in any way like lowest settings.
Yeah no, it's it's like four frames

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a second type stuff like turn the
settings up. So by default, so

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our PC here, uh, everything
defaulted to medium with Eve Valkyrie at home,

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everything defaulted to high because it detected
the GPU and went like, oh

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yeah, cool, let's go.
And then I loaded the game and the

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menus were fine. And then as
soon as I got into space and was

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flying around, it was like,
oh wait, no, sorry, fuck

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you, we were wrong. Uh
so I said everything got to medium,

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no better, like no better.
And if you didn't see parts of the

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stream where we were, we were
having frame rate issues. Frame rate issues

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in VR much bigger deal. Yeah, And these were so intense and extreme

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that it was just like it creates
you can't play that game. You cannot

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play that game. It's like drew
playing Subnatica. Yeah, did you get

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sick? There were some problems with
Subnatica. Also, it's it's that that

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that game is in early access.
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not not playable on that machine.
So the CPU on the one they sent

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is more powerful than yours but four
generations. But my GPU at home it's

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more powerful okay than the one here. Not by much in the grand scheme

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of things, but yeah, so
just not doable. And that machine is

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overclocked about as far as I can
probably take it without getting into water cooling

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and spending money on that sort of
episode waste of which is not you know,

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but like there are people that swear
by that twenty five, like,

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oh, it's the best CPU.
You can just keep over clogging into everything's

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perfect, you don't need to upgrade
at all. I'm like, no,

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this is actually If that's what those
people are saying, they're crazy. Like

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for it's been good enough. For
it's been great. It's been great,

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cud Yeah, but also, like
you know, I'm encoding more video at

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home. It's only been good enough
because nothing is requiring the heavy lifting better

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CPU would would would bring. So
yeah, I didn't necessarily like go through

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and like tests to make sure that
the bottleneck was the CPU and all of

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those stuff. I mean, you
know, I kind of rebooted the machine

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and hey, this is all installed
on SSD and I've got plenty of RAM.

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Not that that would be a huge
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that game for as not great as
it looks like texture wise and some of

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that other stuff. Like if this
was if e Valkrie was rendered on a

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two D plane, you'd be like, this is okay looking. This is

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like a decent looking space shim.
Not playable on that machine at home?

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Did you even get through like a
single hole session? No, No,

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I was. I loaded it up
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just to see like is this gonna
Are all these textures gonna eventually load in

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and I'll be fine, Like,
no, this is fucked, This is

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not this is not a video game. This was this the thing It's gonna

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get you apart probably been putting new
energy. Well. I had already been

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thinking about it before this, simply
because like I wanted some faster video and

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coding speeds and stuff like that,
and it's just you know, I don't

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know, it's just it feels like
it's time for an upgrade. That's the

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that is the part that is lasted
me the longest is the well parts,

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I guess I should say, because
this is at this point, this will

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be a CPU motherboard and RAM right. Yeah. Yeah, So so I

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started looking last night, and you
know, it's one of those things where

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everyone's always like, oh, don't
get it right now, it's wait a

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month, wait two months, Hey, guess what what? Get it right?

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Oh? Yeah, I might good
time. Yeah, And I know

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that there's like there actually literally is
some stuff right around the corner this time.

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So so there may be some merit
in waiting a little bit. But

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I don't know, I think of
the CPU. You're good, is there's

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some broadwell something or other coming all
right? Well, you know anyway,

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so yeah, I don't know,
listen to a PC hardware podcast, but

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so yes, I might just go
get some I seven sixty seven hundred gay

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or so whatever it is. And
you know, I was looking looking at

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prices on new Egg and it was
like, that's let's see us like three

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hundred and something that seems reasonable.
It's yeah, or or I don't know,

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like my my perception of PC hardware
pricing is was skewed by how much

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everything used to cost. So like
when I think about a new CPU and

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they say three I'm like, cool, great, Yeah, that's not a

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grand, that's not eight hundred bucks. Okay, cool, let's let's go.

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For first time I upgraded RAM in
a computer, it was fifty dollars

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a megabyte. Yeah, two hundred
dollars for four megabytes of extra memory.

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Well I don't even I don't even
mean like comparing those numbers. I more

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mean just like, yeah, there
are four sticks of RAM, and that

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used to be hundreds of dollars and
now it's not a top top of light.

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CPUs used to be like six hundred
two thousand, So you know,

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like I've made those spends in the
past. So when you tell me,

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like, hey, I can get
motherboard, RAM and CPU for maybe like

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eight hundred bucks or are probably way
less les, I'm like, fucking up

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dope, let's go yeah, uh, because I'm used to that stuff.

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You know, Like my first PC
I bought in ninety three was I was

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it was a gateway, came in
the cowbox, all that sort of stuff.

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That thing was like three grand.
Yes, you know, yes,

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uh for a fourty six sixty six. No, I'm sorry. That might

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may have been the d X four
one hundred in ninety three dollars. Yes,

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in nineteen ninety three dollars. Yeah, yeah, when Yeah, I

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don't know, computers was king very
expensive. Also a world uh yeah something

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like that. And also yeah,
and PCs have gotten so much easier to

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build and manipulating all that other stuff. The only thing I'm actually so if

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I do this upgrade, and the
only thing I would have ever be concerned

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about is thermal paste. That is
the one thing I've never done. So

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it's one of those things that like
I'd go like, oh that that seems

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like it could be. That's something
I've never done. That's all. It

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doesn't mean you can look on the
line and see different people's techniques. Ye,

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just goop it and slap the fan
on too much, okay, Like

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this has become most common mistake is
putting too much. I just want you

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don't want it to you don't want
lathering. No, no, you want

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like a little dollarp in the middle
because it'll spread out because the tension is

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huge, like you're fan onto it. And yeah, if there's any excess.

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It's gonna squeeze out of it spreads
out. It's like a it's like

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a panini. Yeah that's bad news. Uh. Anyway, I don't want

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to I don't want to kick the
VR horse too much here because we've done

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a lot of Yeah exactly, we've
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like some overall impress based on our
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all right, that's the last of
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you later. Yeah. I think
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hardware is good, like it works
those advertised Yeah, the games are simplistic

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and work, but you know,
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game that I look at and go
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like, if you have access to
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games, but there's nothing in that
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you gotta like I don't go on
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people are selling there. Oh really
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of markup. Oh no out there. I should have known. Yeah,

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totally right. Yeah, so yeah, there's nothing out there that I would

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recommend, like, hey, you
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need to go pay the six hundred
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the thing where this is, this
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and it's it's super cool. It's
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it just takes time. Game design
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up with, you know, a
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and other developments to see those and
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been funny seeing better and more interesting. It's seeing some of the reaction to

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some of these games from people out
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the ViBe's gonna kick this thing's ass, Like I mean yet, no,

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yeah, yeah, what are the
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like, no, well, room
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mind, it's like, if you
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form the way some people are breaking
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just adding a wee remote to the
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the controllers are significant on the vibe. I think, ye and get its

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own version. Room scale VR is
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Like the difference is clear even without
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the hand it's huge. It's the
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I think that the room scale thing
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going to have room for that?
Like I know everybody's like, I'll clear

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out some space, but like you
don't understand and how many games are going

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to utilize that, right, Like
you don't understand how restricting it actually is

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when you don't really have the room
to walk around. Like it's a huge

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bummer, you know, to be
in this like giant virtual room. Yeah,

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but if you take three steps,
you're right, you hit that fake

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wall. You know. It's just
yeah, that's that is a bummer.

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you know, it's it's touch controllers, and you know Valve has chosen to

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launch with them, and it'll all
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eventually. So seeing some people break
into camps and start to like they're doing

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the dumb console thing of like listing
games as part of their argument, and

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you're just like, fuck you people, like what are you doing with yoursel

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Come on? Yeah, it's like
three sixty and p s three and people

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put yeah, well it's got the
six axis. It's like be smarter than

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that. Like this is all going
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if you're making a decision today.
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saying at GDC, I wasn't aware
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bigger sensors for something closer to the
room scale stuff right that aren't out yet.

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three, there were things on the
wall. Okay, that was all prototype

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stuff. So I don't know what
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these controllers out well, and the
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yeah with the yea yeah, it's
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but it's like a bigger box than
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mean, I think there was room
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the Oculus Touch, that thing I
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you know, Palmer was there with
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could walk around that table that was
that was that Yeah, totally, Yeah,

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we had the room sensors. It
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a year from now, those two
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feature wise. Yeah, they just
you know, the Oculus chose to focus

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on and I'm guessing that some of
it is, you know, just like

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getting the things built, but also
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marketing or pricing thing and involved,
and like oh well let's just sell the

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headset because we can do it for
this amount. And then you know,

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the first valve came like yeah,
yeah, well yeah, and then then

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Valve came along like whatnot not that
long after after going like we're launching in

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early April, and ours come was
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know, it's just it seems like
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So I don't know like that.
It's not to say there are zero

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differences between those pieces of hardware,
but I think in terms of like rough

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capabilities, it's all going in the
same place, and it seems like eventually

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they're both going to run all the
same stuff, right, I have no

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idea getting there, and it seems
a little dodgy so far. Like the

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Star doesn't detect an oculus headset.
Steam just had that update recently, right,

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Like I just floated Steam last night
and said, like Steam VR,

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they've been doing a munch of Steam
VR updates constantly. It doesn't didn't,

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but you still can't play any game
on Steam with no that's not true.

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But you can't use Steam VR with
an oculus which which is which is their

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front end. It's like Big Picture
mode for VR. Okay, so that's

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not required to launch the VR enabled
games on So when I try to launch

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Elite Dangerous, it has like three
different little radio button options that will say

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like play Elite Dangerous, play Elite
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Steam VR mode and if you pick
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Steam VR launcher and says, you
don't have a vibe. What the fuck

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are you doing? That's a shape
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on the Oculus out of the Oculus
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even that was a clunky, fucked
up mess of like you had to launch

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it in two D go into the
menu, find the spot where it says

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HMD select that. So you may
just be able to do that with Elite

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Dangerous on Steam and it'll detect the
Oculus and there. So it's not systemwide

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support for the Oculus Rift through Steam
VR, but game by game it seems

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like there will be some stuff that
we will do. We like maybe a

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Drift is another good example, Like
do we know if the Steam version of

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a Drift will do VR on an
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it does. I believe it will, but I don't know because this whole

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time we just assumed, like you
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pretty egalitarian about like okay, everyone's
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the messaging has been like, yeah, we we know that this is a

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hard sell to the public. It's
in everybody's best interests if like their software

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works on our headset and ours works
on theirs and all this stuff. Yeah,

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you're right, but but it's not
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built their own publishing division, right, you know, and they are publishing

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games. Will those games come to
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I would assume, will you need
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the other option is will the Oculus
store work with a vibe? Right?

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That's that's the real which I guess
is another potential because at that point they

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don't care, right because they're still
selling your software. Like the headsets themselves

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can't be big money makers with all
the tech in them and stuff, right,

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you're going to make all the money
on software. And that's the thing

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is, you know, and and
that's why we're probably just about done talking

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about this time today, is is
that there's still a lot of stuff that

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we just don't know, and we
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the market, and we kind of
see like Okay, day one of having

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multiple headsets on the market, how
is the competition shaping up between them?

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Or how what works where? How's
the compatibility picture playing out? And then

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I feel like we're right back to
where we are right now, like the

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day after the Vive comes out,
like we'll blow through whatever like tech demo

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turned launch experiences that they put out. I want the job simulator right,

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stuff on the stuff like fantastic contraption
sounds cool, like there's like the lab

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is cool from what we've seen of
it, like there's some there's some good

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valve magic in there. But and
half five three of course, yes,

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of course launch right, yeah,
yeah, we're like, what three weeks

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away though it could be great,
not even three weeks. It's that thing's

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out next week. But then it's
gonna be a whole bunch of just like

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wait for more cool stuff to come
out, right, I guess the day

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after that thing comes out, it's
just gonna be like, well, they're

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both out now. Now developers need
to like put their heads down and actually

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make some really good stuff. I
kind of sure they need to assess the

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scene and go like is it worth
it for us to do that work?

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You know, and that's something that
the larger publishers have kind of said,

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you know, like is EA going
to make Mirror's Edge of the R game?

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and then like, well, it
may become easier to do that after

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you see demonstrations of how certain problems
are solved, yes, like camera stuff,

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Like maybe EA, for example,
is waiting to see like Okay,

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what's the best way to do this
or what's the best way to do Yeah,

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I'm sure that in that direction rather
than doing their own vrr and right,

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Like that's what that's what I mean
about the iterative stuff, you know,

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like it's still people are still just
figuring out, like what's the design

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language of making games for a thing
strapped your face that tracks your head movie?

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And I think, you know,
I could probably like say, with

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some certainty, I have to imagine
that EA has a think tank internally,

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that is, I'm sure fucking around
with all these VR headsets and and trying

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to make decisions about it. Uh. You know, they heard stories about

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how they did that with the connect
and just like you know, before any

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studio is necessarily making a game,
there were smart people somewhere deep in a

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fucking bunk or an EA fucking round
with that thing, going like, well

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you could do this, I don't
know, this is something that might work,

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and then passing those learnings onto the
out to the teams. But you

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know, different studios work different ways. It's yeah, I don't know,

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we'll see, we'll see how it
goes, We'll see. I think the

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biggest revelation for me, having played
Project Cars and Elite Dangerous, both games

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that are already out, was I
sort of assumed going into VR time that

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if a game was on VR,
well, that's the way I'm going to

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play it, because you are playing
the game and you're in VR. But

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I think personally, I am going
to have to make a decision per game

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what is important to me about this
game, and then do I want to

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do this make it better? And
that's example. Project Car is probably not

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because the resolution. Personally I have
a hard time with the racing games and

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the fidelity there. But something like
Elite Dangerous is a little more slower paced

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U and you can it's base trucking, right, you can sort of flyer

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and like there's combat, but for
the most part you're just looking at menus

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and flying slowly through space. That
can benefit from an immersive experience, and

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it doesn't necessarily have to have super
high fidelity. Yeah, Like I'm I'm

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really really reluctant to adopt a peripheral
or like anything like that just simply in

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the name of immersion if it makes
me worse at the game. Yes,

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and so that's actually what keeps me
away from that. That is the crux

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of my racing wheel argument is that, like I would be far better on

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a game pad than I would ever
on a racing wheel. Yeah, but

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certain things like like Eve Valkyrie seems
like it is better through VR, Like

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if they had that control it better. The other problems with Eve Valkyrie,

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though, are like I don't think
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works because it's in VR, right, or it's only interesting, you know,

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Yes, it's otherwise it's eight on
eight deathmatch dog fights, you know,

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like the control mode, Like sure, all right, that's you know,

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yeah, you said something like it
would be you know, ten years

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ago in XBLA or whatever, like
fifteen dollars, and no one ever talked

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about it. Yeah, exactly,
So it's it's Yes, I think yesterday

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really changed my tune because I'm sure
they're old bomb cast where I was like,

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I'm probably gonna buy all three of
them. I'd spend fifteen hundred dollars

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for him. I remember, I
was like the big cheerleader, like I

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don't care how much, you know. But I wound up not pre ordering

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it, and I was like,
I'll just, you know, buy one

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at retail when it comes out and
now that I've seen, which was like

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saying there was no indication that retail
was going to be about. Yeah,

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I don't know what the hell I
was thinking there, but yeah, I

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still really like the Tech a lot. But all these things were like all

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these games that we played yesterday would
have blown me away two years ago at

407
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an E three tech demo or something
like, holy shit, this is amazing.

408
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:42.960
It's like you're really there, but
that exact same experience now that it's

409
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:48.640
out, having the actual thing that
this does, It's like all those games

410
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.519
and experiences and short films or whatever
really underwhelm me to where you know,

411
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.680
I'm not writing it off. I
will get one of these headsets at some

412
00:24:55.759 --> 00:25:00.559
point when it makes sense. But
I don't see what game like nothing everything

413
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:03.559
demos super well, and then the
minute you have unfettered access to it,

414
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.680
and it becomes do I am I
Am I going to play this? Yeah?

415
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:10.200
Do I want to? Even if
because we've we've had a rift for

416
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:14.039
about a week now. Yeah uh, and that thing was not in use

417
00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:15.119
for that full week. It was
like I would go in there and funk

418
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:21.519
around with it for a while,
like you guys didn't, so you know,

419
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:22.240
it was it was one of the
things where like, yeah, like

420
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.319
this is cool, and but it
seems like the more time you spend with

421
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:30.880
it, like I've definitely sated.
About midweek, I was like, all

422
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.279
right, no, I get I
get what this stuff is. And sure,

423
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.119
I think I'm gonna I'm gonna sit
down in there at one point after

424
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:38.880
hours or whatever and play through a
drift just to say that I've played through

425
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.319
a whole game in Vry, just
to see how I feel about it out

426
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.759
I'm coming out the other side of
it. But that's more of an experiment

427
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:48.200
than anything. I went in there
a few times and played several different games,

428
00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.160
and like every single one of them, even the better ones, I'd

429
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:53.000
play for like five minutes and be
like, all right, yeah, I'm

430
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.119
good. I don't need to do
another match of v Valcrie. I get

431
00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.200
it. I got kind of I
found myself going like I should, I

432
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.240
should go back in there and play
some more E Valkyrie just to make sure

433
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.480
I should, And I said so
yeah. It was like I went back

434
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.000
in there, like am I missing
something? It was it was that feeling

435
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:12.599
of like I'm gonna play two more
matches of Eve and see if the magic

436
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:17.559
is unlocked, and it's just like
no, no, this is like the

437
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:22.240
tech is rad that those the headset
is bad fucking ass. I can't wait

438
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:26.000
for the game that makes me want
to pay totally right. Yeah, it's

439
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:27.680
period. It's a weird that like
every trade show I've gone to for the

440
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.480
last three years, my first priority
has been like, oh I just want

441
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.839
a chance to play a VR game
again. I can't wait. And like

442
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:36.680
you said, we've had unfettered access
for a week and I've gone in there

443
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:40.160
a few times. Yeah, I'm
good. Yeah, it's you know,

444
00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:44.039
and that's the thing like we're we
talked about it last week of like the

445
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.400
time for tech demos is done,
like that Star Wars tech demos seemed like

446
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:49.200
way out of place. Yeah,
it's you know, it's just like every

447
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.720
console launch it needs its killer app, and it doesn't have one yet.

448
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.279
Yeah, Eve's as probably as close
as it gets just in terms of like

449
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.599
checking boxes, in terms of like
well this is the immersion is the thing.

450
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:00.880
But then it's just like the game
is not that fun. Yeah,

451
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.240
but but I'm not saying for a
minute that that means they failed or anything.

452
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.920
You know, like they delivered the
hardware and it works. You know,

453
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.720
it's like rare is the console that
has a game at launched that's like,

454
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:12.240
oh I have to have that console
to play that, Like when when

455
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:15.240
was the last time that happened?
Like Halo one. I mean like we

456
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:21.160
Sports was a huge I played We
Sports ten times more than I want to

457
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.079
play anything on this launch line app
there. Well, but that's a nintend

458
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.920
Like Nintendo is is kind of a
cut above in terms of making good games

459
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.440
here. And also like that that
was like that was a very social thing.

460
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.640
That was like you know, like
We Sports is a fine game,

461
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:38.279
but it is definitely, you know, exponentially better when you were around up

462
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:42.599
it's very much let's get some beers
and play bowling exactly like this doesn't have

463
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:47.640
this is the exact opposite. Yeah, here's this solitary thing. If you

464
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:51.400
want to have robot men talking to
you like vrs for you, like air

465
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:56.440
meck, is fucking awesome for that. That That was the most eye opening

466
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.480
moment of that whole thing yesterday,
was trying to just trying to do matchmaking

467
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:02.319
in that thing, having those two
guys match in there with their robot avatars

468
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.359
and realizing that as they were talking, the head movements of their robots were

469
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.759
what their real heads were actually doing
as they were talking. Even in multiplayer,

470
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.240
you're doing this like battle bots thing
where the guys are on the other

471
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.400
side of the arena with their little
remote controls and their heads are moving,

472
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.200
and I can I can ask their
real person heads are, Like I can

473
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.279
I can tell which part of the
map Pulver is concentrating on because that's where

474
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.000
his robot guy is looking. You
know, Like that was a super cool

475
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.039
moment. But but that's's kind of
few and far between right now. Yeah,

476
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.440
there are there are neat things in
some of the software, for sure,

477
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.640
but yeah, I don't know anyway, VR VR it's here, I'm

478
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.720
gonna let's let's stop. Let's talk
about regular video games Street Fight or five,

479
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.000
that's not a video game. Well
they pashacked back again on Thursday,

480
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.720
yeah, or is it tomorrow?
It is, uh that the the second

481
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.160
half of this week's patching half is
tomorrow. You're right. They put in

482
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.480
the don't tell the challenge mode.
Yeah, the eight player lobbies. Uh

483
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:59.240
huh, which I've not tried.
Jason relayed word that it was not I've

484
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.200
heard the server run fire yesterday after
the patch came out. Well, and

485
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.960
that's like fits the tone of Street
Fight or four. If six weeks,

486
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.000
seven weeks after your game comes out, you can't handle the load of people

487
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:14.359
coming back because of a patch,
there is cause for concern. I'm surprised

488
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:17.839
there were that many people to come
back. What was the other thing,

489
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.799
challenge mode lobbies, and there was
one other thing? Uh, I can't

490
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.920
I know there was something else.
I don't know. I launched it on

491
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:29.079
PC and looked at the Well,
the part of the challenge mode has the

492
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.359
demonstrations which are kind of the meant
to be the tutorial. Maybe that was

493
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:36.400
it, and it's like almost completely
noninteractive. It's like the exact opposite of

494
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:41.359
what it like like it's it's the
most like checkboxy kind of way to put

495
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.519
a tutorial into the game where it's
all happening in engine, but they might

496
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.319
as well be fucking videos because it's
just it's text on a screen that says

497
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:49.920
you can jump diagonally if you want, and then you jumps diagonally for a

498
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.279
while, and oh wow everything and
then there, I mean, it gets

499
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.440
down to characters specific stuff, to
where it's talking more about things than the

500
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:06.119
game did previously, but in the
most uninspiring way. It's just fucking lame.

501
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.359
Well, tomorrow the shop will be
patched. Yeah, so you can

502
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:12.119
finally buy some of those amazing dealc
costumes that people have been data mining out

503
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.519
of the game, Right, is
there any way to spend your fight money

504
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.880
before now tomorrow tomorrow money? In
fact, the Zeni version of the store

505
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:25.680
is not launching as scheduled, so
they're making they're making Alex is gonna be

506
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.200
free, free, while it's just
gonna be free until they put in the

507
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.200
real Buddy currency that you can then
buy him with. Yeah, unless you

508
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:33.720
bought the season pass, in which
case you know, obviously you've already spent

509
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.680
money on him and that stuff works. But the whole process of like buying

510
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.359
premium currency and then turning that into
a character that's not going to be ready.

511
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.759
So hey, free access to Alex
for a while, and they're giving

512
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.680
away some skins as like a thank
you to players. Okay, wait,

513
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.240
is Alex free? As in you
can download him and have him forever,

514
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.400
or you can just plays because if
you play him until they patched the city

515
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.200
support, because he will still be
in the game even if you don't have

516
00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:00.400
access to him, because you will
fight other players who did pay for accents,

517
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.640
so you'll always be in sync with
all the DLC and all the costumes

518
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.559
and everything. This all seems par
for the course for Street Fight or five

519
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:08.799
so far, I guess. So
the way this is rolling out, Yeah,

520
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.319
and it was like a six gig
patch on top of that. Yeah,

521
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.039
like what the fuck was in?
And I just had. My favorite

522
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.079
part is that they put in half
of it yesterday and half of it will

523
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.079
be put in tomorrow. But I
bet I bet that half of it that

524
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.720
comes tomorrow will not actually be a
download. It will beat them. Yeah,

525
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.400
them flipping the Alex switch. That
makes sense, I's not or something

526
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.039
or flip. Maybe they'll be a
small patch to get the story and by

527
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.559
small patch, maybe it only be
five gigs. I don't know. They

528
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.240
made March. They made March to
their patch, they you know, so

529
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:48.480
it was a March update. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, else is going

530
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.160
on track Mania Turbo. Yeah,
we talked about some of that last week,

531
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:55.559
I think, but it's yeah,
I'm coming around on that game,

532
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:57.839
uh, in a different way than
I have on any other track Mania game,

533
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.799
because the single player campaign is mattering
more to me. It's got a

534
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:07.319
trials like ghosts racing system for people
on your friends list, which the track

535
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:09.000
leadia ever had a campaign before.
Yeah, it's always had a campaign.

536
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.480
I thought it was just hey,
jump out a server or drive. Yeah.

537
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.720
No, no, that's just the
multiplayer side of it. So there's

538
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:19.000
always like a race against the clock
kind of gold medal stuff. That's been

539
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:23.400
the campaign. And it's had this
before, and it's had like ghosts leaderboard

540
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:27.640
stuff before. In fact, it's
had it in a more advanced way before,

541
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.920
but just by virtue of being on
a console where I am maintaining something

542
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.000
of a friends list, as opposed
to Mania Planet, where I'm the only

543
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.039
person I know playing it and none
of my friends are, you know,

544
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.640
would even ever touch the campaign in
that game. This is a different brand

545
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:46.480
of funk. That game is real
two steps forward and then two steps back

546
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.039
in a lot of ways, because
like the campaign and track Mania to actually

547
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.960
let you go to the leader board
and download any ghost from the leader board,

548
00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.359
whereas this one is just your friends, and this one's got the awful

549
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:05.279
way of categorizing userbait tracks that you
talked about. But Driving is great.

550
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.119
It's an amazing looking game. It
looks nice. It's it's well amazing looking,

551
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.079
maybe a bit much. It is
a great looking game. I think

552
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.960
it's better than drack Media has definitely
sure. Yeah, and it handles well.

553
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.920
It's it's a lot of fun.
The soundtracks fantastic. He told me

554
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:22.799
about a cool feature it has,
driving by Committee. Yes, the double

555
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.880
driver mode that is new. Uh. Yeah. They put in a lot

556
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.839
of like you know, same like
like local multiplayer modes in this game,

557
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:35.160
which is kind of driving one car. Yes, it's two people driving turns.

558
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.200
Yeah. Specific rim so Yeah,
it's a specific rim So. Dan

559
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:43.680
and I drifted literally and figuratively in
the Quinnett Click look, uh to get

560
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.319
around the track. It's all the
same tracks you know from the from the

561
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.440
single player stuff. You just you
both have to try to control the car.

562
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.960
It worked pretty well, Yeah,
like we did. Okay, it

563
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.960
got me thinking that, like what
if you hacked like two Bluetooth radios to

564
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.720
one controller and then just played it
that way. Then you're just playing the

565
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:06.400
single player right, Yeah, but
you're like the leaderboards destroying the leaderboard.

566
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.079
That's true. Yeah, I'd like
to see that with like seven people.

567
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.679
Yeah. Uh yeah, that's a
lot of fun. That. That's pretty

568
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.639
much all all that I've been playing. Yeah. Uh well, I played

569
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:24.199
through Quantum Break and we will talk
about that soon ish. I could,

570
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:28.360
you know, I could tell you
about Act two, Chapter one, this

571
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:31.159
cut scene, but until we've got
up until this licensed song starts playing,

572
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:35.079
and then I have to stop talking
about preview information and then they have a

573
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.280
bunch of restrictions on you know,
we've got we've got the most of Act

574
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.679
one is on our site exactly video
fom at this point. That's the season

575
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.320
Quantum Break. That is what that
game is. I'm still looking forward to

576
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.079
playing that game. But yeah,
we've got quite a bit of material out

577
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.599
there. We'll have a review soon
already, all right, good snow,

578
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.320
Yeah, I've been I've been picking
my way through the day of the Technical

579
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.800
Rebastard. It's a great game,
which is does it hold up? You?

580
00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:59.639
Are you enjoying it? So I
never played it back in the day.

581
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:04.199
I was, in fact, I
was like fully like not intentionally,

582
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.920
but I was by default on the
Sierra divide of the great adventure game wards

583
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.960
of the nineties, rough rough Spot. I mean, it's just like,

584
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:15.159
you know, you've got we got
our first computer relatively late in the lifespan

585
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.679
of adventure games, like okay,
let's say three to four years before they

586
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.400
died. If you want to say, Grim Fandango was kind of like the

587
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.639
end cap. Yeah, I guess
so I might. I might say that

588
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:28.239
wasn't that well yeah, probably whatever. I don't know, Yeah, that's

589
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.960
probably dismissive of the smaller studios that
have been making good adventure games, like

590
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:36.840
like since time and some wanted Watchet
Eyes like right, you've been there the

591
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.440
whole time, or you know,
like Germany, right, but the nation

592
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.239
they have been. But that was
like the you know, that was the

593
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:47.920
last big LucasArts adventure game, and
that was right around the time that Sierra

594
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.719
went three D with King's Quest and
tried to make it like a weird actual

595
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.440
game hybrid and then it just the
classic Like the standard bearers of the genre

596
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.519
pretty much went down the tubes.
Leisure Suit Larry on Xbox three sixty was

597
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:05.280
like that weird like almost totally forgot
about that. All that was after like

598
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.679
FINDI got their hands on all those
ideas. But anyway, for whatever reason,

599
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.480
I was only exposed to Sierra stuff
through the people I knew that played

600
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.360
that stuff. I never played Lucky
Island, mean I Mansion, like Sam

601
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:20.280
Max any of that stuff. Yeah, which seems like what the cool kids

602
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.880
were playing. Yeah, those were
much better games. There's like very much

603
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:28.239
this attitude that like people who played
Lucas Arts games were cool. Yes,

604
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.880
we play where games were square.
When I was a sophomore in high school,

605
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.599
I tried to get a job at
Lucas Arts. Wow, they had

606
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.119
a testing position open and I but
they said send a resume and I wrote

607
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.840
like, a here's why I want
you to hire me, and hey,

608
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:45.159
I didn't hear back, so probably
for the best. So there's someone here

609
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:47.360
who worked in QA for Lucas at
one point. That's sounds like a fucking

610
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:52.480
nightmare. Yeah, talking to him
about that was very eye opening and yeah,

611
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.199
fun to hear about, but probably
not fun to live and work through

612
00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:00.280
the idea of like testing PC compatibility, like like in those days, here's

613
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.880
like a room full of video cards. Now slot them in and make sure

614
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.239
this works. So here's here's all. Here's all the sound cards on the

615
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.199
market, because they are like six
competing sound standards. Right, but this

616
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:13.039
Disney sound source, let's go.
When I was in Get This Gus,

617
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.119
yeah, I was testing on a
console and I knew some people who were

618
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:22.480
on the SIMS PC team. Yeah, which if you think about the SIMS

619
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.679
and reproducing a bug in the SIMS
when it's so open, I did not

620
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.679
envy those guys. That sounds crazy
anyway, you can swing balls. But

621
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.639
yeah, the Luke Start's Adventure,
I mean whatever. There are valid reasons

622
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.960
for the Sierra game. So some
of them were earlier and fascinating in their

623
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.719
own way. Right, Police Quest
is a really crazy thing. Yeah,

624
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.119
in fact that they got fucking Daryl
kaid sate. They remember that, just

625
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:49.440
like when that's like, man,
fuck you, what the fuck? Uh?

626
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.760
But yeah, I mean there's there's
obviously when Max Hit the Road is

627
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:58.599
an incredible game, Like there's there's
a lot of wit and like really accomplished

628
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.920
like comedy in those games that the
Sierra games did not have. Yes,

629
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:06.800
yeah, yeah, the closest I
think Sierra ever got to comedy. And

630
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:08.400
I've not played all those games,
but it was like it was leisure Suit

631
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.440
Larry, which I was never that
funny. Yeah. I was just twelve,

632
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:14.920
Yes, yes, indeed, and
I was like, man, are

633
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:19.559
they are they gonna show? They're
gonna show it? Are they are they

634
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:21.760
gonna show it? Didn't want to
see it? Did they? No?

635
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.239
No? Never really? So your
voice when you're twelve, never once.

636
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.559
So that's his voice. Now he's
still playing it, still looking, he's

637
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.840
still waiting. I've moved on.
I downloaded a copy of Dead or a

638
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:37.000
Live Extreme three. Okay, I
want to know if they're going to show

639
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.480
it. Oh man, well I
want to ask about that desperately. No

640
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.480
idult. They said that they weren't
going to release the game in this country.

641
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.760
That means they must show it didn't
just go out like three or four

642
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:49.639
days ago or something like that.
So I have not I launched it to

643
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.280
make sure that it launched, and
have not actually played it yet. Well,

644
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.960
I was thinking that that would be
something we would just go into fresh

645
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.360
and try to play. You guys
should record that before Dan goes to wrestle

646
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:00.719
media. Yeah, yeah, probably
Dandy used to be in on that.

647
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:04.440
Let's do that today. Yeah,
I don't think I want to sit it

648
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:06.800
on that anyway. Let's talk about
I want to see him show it.

649
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:10.480
I want to I want to go
to zach Island. I have to finish.

650
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.519
Let's talk about data centicorder fast.
Then we can move on. Can

651
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:19.480
you put Bernard in a bikini and
day the Tentacle remastered? Could you and

652
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.079
the no? Did they remaster it
so they show it? The no?

653
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.960
I mean I know you know this
because you play some of it. It's

654
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:29.960
it's it's it's interesting and weird because
like they literally just redrew all the art

655
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.159
assets in I res but map them
over the original game. Yeah, like

656
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:36.039
like zero additional frames of animation from
the looks of it, right, just

657
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.679
you know, which which I feel
like emulating at that point. Uh,

658
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.760
I don't know how they did it
exactly. You know, like you can

659
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:46.559
tap the touch pad on PS four
and toggle between original and I mean,

660
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.559
it's it's I assume it's poorted.
You know, it's not you're not like

661
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.679
emulating hardware, but but you know, like scum VM has been out there

662
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.320
for years and years, Like all
those look starts games used to common Common

663
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.639
scripting interface, Common engine. You
know that they just recreated with scum VM.

664
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.519
So in fact, there's a video
of Tim Schaefer playing the original games

665
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.599
on their YouTube channel and he's running
them all in scome viam. Yeah,

666
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.320
why wouldn't you like, you know, to run him on a modern machine,

667
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:13.679
like that is the way, But
I feel like from a preservation standpoint,

668
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.000
like that's probably the right way to
do it, right, Yeah,

669
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.840
Like you don't want to you don't
want to make too many modifications, or

670
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.320
you're kind of getting beyond the scope
of what the game was at the time,

671
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.639
right. Yeah, So like the
you know, the low number of

672
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.519
like animation frames and stuff doesn't bother
me. Like it's like, Okay,

673
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:30.599
this is how it was back then, and it's a lot clearer and it

674
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.000
fills the entire TV screen now,
but it's still like you're basically still getting

675
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:35.800
that experience. Yeah. Well,
I don't know, I think that there

676
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:37.480
there would be room for a full
remake of that game. Yeah, but

677
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.920
I don't. I don't necessarily need
that. I don't either. But also

678
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.239
for fifteen dollars, I don't think
that's reasonable to expect. I guess you're

679
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.599
I don't know, that's all they're
charging for it, So yeah, I

680
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.079
guess. Yeah. But but more
to the point, I feel like I

681
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.159
just I just feel like game preservation
has become a hotter topic as time has

682
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.559
gone on, and more and more
stuff is getting lost or harder to find,

683
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.880
and we're losing people to right,
that's the other thing. Yeah,

684
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.920
Like there's they've been doing some really
good work on their YouTube channel. There's

685
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.400
like a twelve fifteen minute video but
of remastering this. There's a little mini

686
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:12.960
documentary on their on their channel that
I highly recommend it because like, a,

687
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:16.119
you're talking to Tim Schaeffer, and
they brought Dave Grossman in as well

688
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:20.480
to talk to and like and so
you're getting like stories that only exist in

689
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.599
these people's minds, right because they
were there. Like no books were ever

690
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.519
written about this stuff. Yeah,
Like no, no interviews were really conducted.

691
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:29.519
They weren't doing special features back then. Like the only way you're going

692
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.519
to play games media was not you
know, pursuing that sort of stuff right

693
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.960
in that way, and it's still
not really it's there's an amazing moment in

694
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:42.519
that video actually where they talked to
one of the younger like a junior programmer

695
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.800
at Double Fine who was helping remaster
this thing. And first of all,

696
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.880
it's kind of depressing because he says
that the code base for that game is

697
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.800
as old as he is, so
he's like his early twenties or whatever.

698
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.000
Yeah, but he's going through some
of the stuff he was doing to port

699
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:59.039
the game and digging into the old
source code, and like Tim Shaffer apparently

700
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.119
did some of the coding on the
game, and he found a bit in

701
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:07.000
the credits, the intra credits for
the game where because it says like written

702
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.960
and directed by Tim Shaffer and Dave
Grossman. Yeah, there's there's scripting in

703
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.880
there that randomizes the order that their
names represented down, so like, I

704
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.599
guess, you know, make it
fair so nobody gets top billing every time.

705
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.880
Yeah, But like the variable names, there's like comments and variable names

706
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.440
in there where like like the variable
and he used for that was age before

707
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.320
Beauty, So it's like if age
before Beauty was one, like just weird

708
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.559
little personality quirks of the people who
made these games coming out in like the

709
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.920
freaking source code. Yes, like
like that stuff is never gonna come to

710
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.719
light unless people dig in there and
document that stuff, you know. Yeah,

711
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:43.079
Like there's there's footage of them going
up to Skywalker Ranch where all the

712
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:46.280
original concept art that game has been
in a like a filing cabinet for the

713
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:50.079
last twenty years. They dug it
all out and scanned it and put it

714
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.000
in there. They recovered all the
DAT tapes from all their like all the

715
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:57.519
original recordings, so like that's why
that was the thing I was originally worried

716
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.119
about a little bit because I was
like, oh, I wonder if the

717
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:04.599
sound quality will be low because this
was you know, even as a CD

718
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.960
game, it was still like the
it was not CD quality audio coming out

719
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:10.199
of Super Compressed. They do a
side by side in that video of like

720
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.400
here's what it sounded like back in
the day. It's like, awfully like

721
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.320
low qualities. A lot of hiss
drew. You'll appreciate this, Uh,

722
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:22.000
just from a production and an archiving
standpoint. They I think they went and

723
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.480
like contracted one of the guys who
helped with the original recordings because they're all

724
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:27.760
on old school DAT tapes and stuff, you know, so they have to

725
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.599
like dig out the equipment to capture
that stuff. But like none of the

726
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.800
tapes were labeled, oh god,
with the like the actor or character names

727
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:38.079
at all. There are different takes
for different lines for different characters, all

728
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.079
mixed together on different tapes. Like
it is so like they're talking. Here's

729
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.800
another junior guy at Double Find who
had to spend like hours and hours and

730
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.760
hours just categorizing all these takes the
like this is the take they got used

731
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.320
and like listen side by side.
There were no production notes, so he

732
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.000
had to buy ear listen to the
takes and figure out which is the one

733
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.559
that actually got picked for the game
and match that one in It's I would

734
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.039
have loved to an alternate mode that
actually just randomly chose different tapes. That

735
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.400
would be awesome, you know,
you know. But and like there's there's

736
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.920
a little bit where they're skyping with
one of those the guy they brought in

737
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.559
to help with the dat tape stuff, and they have the tapes stacked up

738
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:14.000
like flaying flat horizontally, and the
guy was like, don't do that.

739
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:19.199
Like they have to let rest like
vertically, because gravity will push the tape

740
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.760
down and destroy the control track on
the tape over time if you don't,

741
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.360
and those tapes will be ruined after
a period of years. Like just crazy

742
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:30.119
little old game development like kind of
preservation need archival stuff in there, Like

743
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.360
it's gone through these game tapes.
There's I've discovered a nice labeling system that

744
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:38.280
categorizes each capture by year. Yeah, And as I was going through that,

745
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.840
I was like, man, I
would really love to thank whoever did

746
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.719
right, And then rich Gallup was
in for GDC and he's like, oh

747
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:50.760
yeah, I still got my labels
on there. Thank you, So fall

748
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.119
at his feet and kiss his shoe. Yes. Yeah. I remember like

749
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:57.760
when we started the site, like
Vinnie was so hardcore about archiving everything in

750
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.039
its original format on hard drives,
and I was like, that's a lot

751
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.280
of money to spend on hard drives. Is that really necessary? Yeah,

752
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:06.719
it's already on the internet, right, It's probably fine, And I yeah,

753
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:08.119
I don't know. I was always
like into it. I was like,

754
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.440
yeah, because we never know where
we're going to use this stuff.

755
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.039
Right. At the same time,
it was one of those things where it's

756
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.159
like well, you know, the
original reason you would save everything at original

757
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.880
rez was like, well, if
it needs to be on TV, we

758
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.599
need an uncompressed version of it,
right, And now that's like well,

759
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.239
I mean for us, that was
never really a goal and it was one

760
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:28.880
of the things where it's like that
would be dumb if we were on TV

761
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.320
and TV like like as as the
years went on since we started this site,

762
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:36.320
it was like, yeah, like
a TV. But yeah, we've

763
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:40.440
we've been saving that stuff all so
it's archive too. That Synology full of

764
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:44.760
hard drives, right, we still
last few years. We still don't buy

765
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.400
a ton of hard drives, do
we? We do every year okay,

766
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:52.639
yeah, we buy uh oh twelve
bays right, I think they're twelve bays

767
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:58.760
of four terabytes each one drive for
bay. Yeah, and then you just

768
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.960
yank them out and label them twenty
fifteen and throw them somewhere. Now we

769
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:07.119
take the whole Synology and just unplug
it and bill every year. Yeah,

770
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:08.639
that way, if we ever wanted
to go back to like twenty fourteen,

771
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:14.039
you just plug in Pology. I
feel there there's like some kind of incompany

772
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:19.119
Blu ray burning solution really somewhere in
here that I wonder if we should just

773
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.880
like put it into that in case
one of these synologies gets blown up or

774
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.920
something like this. The type of
ray that we use is a little bit

775
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.760
redundant. Yeah, so okay,
yeah, I don't know. Yeah,

776
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:32.800
yeah, we've we've always yeah,
we did the rooms full of hard drives

777
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:38.199
at the point we shipped a bunch
of Canada yuh right to put on a

778
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:45.079
cdner that for when we were moving
the site from one hosting service to another.

779
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:46.239
I think we had a male hard
drive, I forget. Yeah,

780
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.760
there's lives a lot of I vaguely
remember that, but yeah, like just

781
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.920
between playing this game and watching that
video, like it makes you really thankful

782
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:57.440
that somebody held onto those dat tapes
and pieces, like the concept art stuff

783
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.599
even is amazing because like they talked
to Peter cham the guy who did all

784
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.320
this stuff, like all the art
for that game, and like he did

785
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.199
Monkey Island, and was saying like, well, because he's like a classical

786
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.480
illustrator, you know, he's got
chops and all kinds of different styles,

787
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:14.440
and he did like a super highly
detailed painted style for Monkey Island. The

788
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:17.760
then got utterly fucking destroyed by like
the EGA or VGA of the Day,

789
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.880
you know. Yeah, so then
he was like, well for Day the

790
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.239
Tentacle, It's like, well I
did. It's super low detail, high

791
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:29.039
color, high contrast thing that would
work in in that like what we have.

792
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:30.960
But that was an awesome looking game
right in its day. And when

793
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:34.440
you and when you flip back in
real time to the real the original version,

794
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:36.880
you're like, holy shit, like
this is seems like so far ahead

795
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:39.119
of its tunny when you compare it
to like the original Maniac Mansion, which

796
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:42.320
which is in the game on the
C sixty four. Yes, yeah,

797
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.519
I played a little bit of it, and it's like, holy shit,

798
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.039
like that was made on an original
IBMPC right because it has like no sound

799
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.320
effects I think was made on the
Common or sixty four. Yeah. Yeah,

800
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.159
Like it's just it is super fucking
rudimentary, like it can't even scroll

801
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:59.079
the screen smoothly as you walk and
stuff like that. But yeah, like

802
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:04.960
like they literally took the original concept
art and reproduced that as the new backgrounds,

803
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.320
Like the new backgrounds in the game
basically are the concept art for the

804
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:12.000
original game. That's cool because they
have the fidelity to reproduce that stuff now,

805
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.639
you know, it's just like it's
an amazing archival effort. Yeah,

806
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:16.400
like setting aside the quality of the
game, and they've they've redone, like

807
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:20.239
the a lot of the navigation and
stuff like that, especially to like account

808
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:22.079
for like console controllers, like you
know, well whatever, Like I played

809
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.760
that game with a joystick, you
know, like not even not even a

810
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.039
mouse. I don't think that game
supported a mouse on Commodore. It was

811
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:35.880
you know, you you moved the
joystick down to pull right, and then

812
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:39.039
you moved to the fucking doormat and
hit the fucking button and it exposed the

813
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:42.760
key. Then you moved down to
hit pick up and then move back up

814
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.440
and hit it and pick it up
the key. I think they had the

815
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.679
hot keys on the keyboard that would
kind of default to like pull pick ups

816
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.800
you kind of like get your verbs
out faster. Was just still got some

817
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:57.400
of that stuff in there. Yeah, but yeah, it's good. It's

818
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.119
like I playing it now, I'm
like, man, I would have my

819
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:01.920
fucking lid for this game if I
had played it back when the adventure games

820
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.760
were new and hot and I cared
about this stuff. Like it's it's so

821
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.599
well written and funny. Yeah,
and just like, I mean, you

822
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.880
know, like I came at it
from the perspective of like really loving Maniac

823
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.800
Mansion and then really liking Zach McCracken, which came afterwards and had a similar

824
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.119
look to Maniac Mansion, but on
a larger scale. No, people people

825
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.840
didn't. People don't remember that game. Fond it doesn't you go to Mars.

826
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.360
I don't know. That's I like, I like Zack McCracken. It's

827
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:30.840
fucking weird, It's it's big.
Anyway, when Day the Tentacle came out,

828
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:36.199
it was like it was fucking crazy, Like how much better that looked

829
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:37.599
and how much you know, how
much more there was to it, which

830
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.599
which I guess, No, I
guess that was. I did play Day

831
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.400
the Tentical with the mouse on a
PC. Now that I think about it,

832
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.480
that's crazy. That was not a
C sixty four game. But yeah,

833
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:50.280
but I played the original Maniac on
on a C sixty four. And

834
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.840
the problem I had is, so
they issue that game on discs, on

835
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.960
floppies and on CD, and on
floppies there was no speech, uh,

836
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:00.320
And so I had the CD version. But that was in the days of

837
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:05.559
IRQ conflicts and all sorts of fucked
up shit where I had to choose whether

838
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.800
I wanted CD ROM support or some
digital audio, so I would get like

839
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:15.119
the the synth audio, so basically
I could play the floppy version of the

840
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:19.239
game right off of CD. And
then one day I finally fucking figured it

841
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.679
out, like resolved the IR two
conflict. Like, okay, if I

842
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:24.679
moved the sound card to seven and
the CD ROM drive to eleven, this

843
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.360
seems to work. Even though there
was no conflicts before with the way it

844
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.440
was configured, it still wouldn't both
work. Like finally got there and it

845
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.719
was like, fucking holy shit,
that's less nestment all. Yeah, totally

846
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.719
the stuff on the disc. I
didn't know it was there. Yeah,

847
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:43.239
that's that's a that's a badass fucking
game. Yeah. It holds up pretty

848
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.559
well. I mean, like there's
parts of it they're kind of slow and

849
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.800
there's a lot of backtracking. Yeah
yeah, I mean it's a time travel

850
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:51.079
game, so you know there's there's
a lot of like, oh I need

851
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.119
to well it's also it's an adventure
game, so I need to come back

852
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:55.920
here with the left handed hammer,
so I could do this, But that's

853
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.880
what it's kind of neat. You
know, they're aspects of like, oh,

854
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:00.159
I gotta do this thing in the
past to effect a thing in the

855
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.960
future. Like that stuffs cool and
you can switch between the characters. Yeah,

856
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:05.920
Brad, you're playing this for the
first time. But you had a

857
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:07.440
history with adventure games. Yeah.
Yeah, I never you know, had

858
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:10.760
a PC back and they never like
I rented Maniac Mansion for any ass,

859
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:15.079
but I had no idea what was
going on shit version yeah, and that

860
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:20.400
was different going on. Yeah,
so I'm curious about it now, Yeah,

861
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.760
you know, being more open minded
about the genre and stuff, Right

862
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.280
would it be? Do you think
I would like it going in completely blind?

863
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.079
Like did you play Broken Age?
No? Uh? Do you haven't

864
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:32.800
play anything? No? Even I
think in the classic like I'm sure you

865
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:35.880
played some of the tell Tale stuff, right, yeah, I hate it,

866
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.880
But I hated Walking Dead. I
I really hate tells. You might

867
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:43.039
but what about the the pre Walking
Dead tell Tale games when they were more

868
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.679
like these type of adventures like the
back of the Back of the Future stuff.

869
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.239
I didn't which But what didn't you
like about it was the writing because

870
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.840
the Back of the Future games were
not great. I always thought the writing

871
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.159
was fine. I just something something
about the gameplay. I just feel like,

872
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:58.440
I don't you want I don't think
you would like this. I don't

873
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:00.760
even I mean that style of your
gaming does not hold up these days.

874
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:05.760
Like, okay, mechanically, like
the episodic Salmon Max games should have been

875
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.840
like, and I like the first
season that quite a bit when tell Tale

876
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:14.480
did that. But at some point, even when they were making very faithful

877
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.039
like Lucas style adventure games in an
episodic fashion, yea, at some point

878
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:20.239
even with that, I was like, dude, I'm good. Yeah it

879
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.480
was walking Dead came out changed everything
with the further way they make their games,

880
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.840
and now they make them all like
that, and I extra don't like

881
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:29.800
those, so yeah, like,
the biggest, the biggest weakness of the

882
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:31.840
second half of Broken Age is that
they listened to the people who complained that

883
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:35.559
the first half was not enough like
those old games, so they made it

884
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:37.920
more like those old games that made
it worse. The one in the genre

885
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.920
I do remember liking is when I
was working at funk O Land, I

886
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.880
just tossed in like some Monkey Island
on PlayStation one, and I remember thinking

887
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.119
like, this is really funny,
Like I don't. I don't necessarily remember

888
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.719
the gameplay grabbing me, but I
really thought it was funny. I want

889
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:52.559
to say, by the time they
got to like by the time they were

890
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.000
putting those games out on PlayStation,
that was a different thing. Yeah.

891
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:58.679
I don't think that's an original bokey. Yeah. I did not do a

892
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.239
remake of it. They did much
later they did, Uh what was it

893
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.639
called Monkey Island Special Edition? Yeah, but that was like that was like

894
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:09.679
twenty ten, would have been like
early two thousands. Like I want to

895
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:13.920
say, Monkey Island on PlayStation,
like may have just been like a direct

896
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.199
control you're walking around doing stuff,
not a point and click game, right,

897
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:20.039
I think I was walking. That's
that's that's a different thing, huh.

898
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.760
I Mean the stereotype about this type
of game, and it is a

899
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:25.800
deserved stereotype, is that, like
it's a bunch of tedious trial and error

900
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:30.000
and guesswork of like you pick up
a bunch of stuff in the environment,

901
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.000
you like whatever qualifies as an inventory
object that you can pick up, right,

902
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:36.400
and then once you're stuck, you
run around using every object you have

903
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.920
on everything you see until something works, you know, like it's it's yeah,

904
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.079
see I guess I haven't done a
lot of the point and click stuff,

905
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:46.199
but you know, I tried to
Start Walking Dead several times because do

906
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:50.039
you remember when that came out,
like everyone is freaking out it, Yeah,

907
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.960
like they won all these awards and
everything, and I really want to

908
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.360
guests too. Looked like Escape from
Monkey Island came to maybe that's PC,

909
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:59.119
and then in two thousand and one
came to PST. That would have been

910
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:01.440
when I was working at so yeah, that's probably the one. But yeah,

911
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:06.039
I tried to Start Walking Dead several
times, and I just fucking hate

912
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:07.519
I was trying so hard to figure
out what people liked about it, and

913
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.360
I hated everything about I mean,
those games are one hundred percent about storytelling,

914
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.079
so if you're not in, I
didn't like the story. I didn't

915
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.119
like the gameplay. I didn't like
any part. I mean the smartest thing

916
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:16.760
Telltale, dude, was throw out
the old puzzle solving and just replace it

917
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.239
with a bunch of character moments.
You know, it's it's yeah, the

918
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.119
digue and all that sort of stuff, like it's you know that that's cool.

919
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:27.199
Yeah, But I just mean I
thought that stuff worked better, and

920
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:29.760
something like Heavy Rain even you know, I liked Heavy Rain a lot,

921
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:32.280
and we probably wouldn't classify that as
an adventure game, would you. Yeah,

922
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:36.760
i'd say, yeah, I'd say
that's absolutely a modern take on action

923
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:38.599
adventure. Maybe yeah, yeah,
a little bit. I did like that

924
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:42.679
one. It's it's more adventure game
than anything. Absolutely, Okay, all

925
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.079
right, I haven't so I've gotten
to the point in Day of the Tonicle

926
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:46.559
yet where I'm stuck, and I'm
sure was like, it's stuck. I

927
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:50.760
will come back with a very different
story. Yeah, I'm trying to.

928
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:52.760
I just it's been so long since
I played through it. There was a

929
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:59.440
while there that I was using scum
them to play that somewhat not more regularly

930
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.599
than most want to say, but
but yeah there I don't remember if there

931
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.719
are any solutions in that game that
are so fucking whacked out that you're just

932
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:09.079
gonna come back like this is everything
I hate about, like attach the fucking

933
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:13.159
rubber chicken to the point, like
like all those sorts of bullshit solutions,

934
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:15.679
there's there's definitely a point. Uh. I want to say, it's HOGI

935
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:19.440
right now that I have like eight
things in my inventory and I haven't had

936
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:21.960
to use any of them yet,
and I'm dreading the point where I where

937
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:22.719
I don't know what else to do, and I'm just like, well,

938
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:24.800
I'm gonna have to start using all
of these on everything, and a lot

939
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:28.320
of those items end up being used
in different times also, So it's like

940
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.800
the case where you're like, you
need to flush items back and forth between

941
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:32.360
the characters and all this other stuff. So I didn't know you could do

942
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.440
that, and you might not be
able to yet depending on where you are.

943
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:40.559
I don't remember. But so it's
you can pass items too through to

944
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:45.039
other characters. Well, you know, regardless of how well individual aspects of

945
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:50.000
it hold up. Like just I
think the effort they put into yeah,

946
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:53.480
preserving this thing and just you know, bring it up to modern standards in

947
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:58.440
an AV sense is really admirable.
I just want to play car Bomb and

948
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:01.920
Salmon Max hit the Road in VR. Can we do that? It's it's

949
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:08.119
just horrible, it is Uh,
it's just battleship, okay, fo Sure

950
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:13.000
it's just battleship with cars instead of
ships and you drop boxes on the board.

951
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:19.679
Sure, battleship VR sounds foot.
I I have to imagine they're going

952
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.119
to go straight full throttle after this, right, I don't know. Yeah,

953
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:24.880
I guess the games that come up
and get talked about it it seems

954
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:29.599
like it's full throttle and grim like. But they did Grim Pago okay about

955
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:31.519
a year ago in the data Tentacles, So it's just it's just a matter

956
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:36.000
of getting the rights right stuff.
Yeah. I just I admire all the

957
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:37.719
efforts they put into the stuff.
I wish other studios had the capacity to

958
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:39.480
do it as well. And I
guess like it's at some point, like

959
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:43.679
you know, it's tempting to lump
all those games together as like the Lucas

960
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:45.719
Arts games, and then you would
think like, oh, well, they'll

961
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:46.639
eventually get to all of them,
but it's like, okay, which ones

962
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:51.400
were actually to Shafer games? That's
the you know, the games that he

963
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:54.480
would have would have done something with
that would then want to go on to

964
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.440
to remake and all that sort of
stuff. It's because that's not the case

965
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:00.360
with all of them for sure,
definitely, and he didn't work on all

966
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.400
those games. But it's it's cool
to see all these names coming up in

967
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:05.880
different Like Tim Shafer obviously made a
huge name for himself, but like,

968
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.960
yeah, Ron Gilbert and uh Gary
Wick one of the other maniate mat like

969
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:15.480
they're making them bleweed Park now right. I think Grossman was a big guy

970
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:19.280
at tell Tale. I believe that
he was part of that stuff. Yeah,

971
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.559
so like yeah, like that he's
the other half of that stuff.

972
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.239
A lot of those big names from
that era of look starts are out there

973
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:30.280
doing their thing. Yeah, and
that's cool. Where's where's the x Wing

974
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:34.159
and tie Fight? Where's Larry Larry
Holland? I don't know where's my man?

975
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:36.519
My man Larry Hall is the last
I heard. I think it was

976
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:42.079
making making moo. It sounds something
like that, all right, somebody making

977
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:44.719
new tie Fighter. God damn it? All right? Star Wars is back

978
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.960
and big? Why is it true? God damn? But it's for kids,

979
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.800
that's the other thing is like,
But then, you know, I

980
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.320
don't know, like kids should learn
how to wear a keyboard, but it's

981
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:54.280
not too far off from being a
kid. And x Wing came out,

982
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:57.960
Yeah I was, you know,
that was like thirteen or something when x

983
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.239
Wing came out. I would have
been like sixteen, seventeen some like that.

984
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:05.280
So yeah, they should make more
of those, Yes they should in

985
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:07.000
virtual reality? Why not? Yes? Yes, make a tie fighter in

986
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:12.440
virtual reality all by that fucking headset
day won Dad, you've been playing anything

987
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:16.360
of note, I'm I think I'm
getting very close to claiming my life back

988
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:21.639
from starting. That's actually kind of
sad to hear. For some reason.

989
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:25.599
I don't think it's permanent because I
keep adding stuff to it. But is

990
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:30.440
there an end to the game?
Anybody? Does it ever stop? I

991
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:31.920
don't think it ever stops. You
can keep I think you can keep farming

992
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:36.719
forever. I think there's stuff sprinkled
throughout the years as you go on or

993
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:40.639
whatever. But the big goals,
it seems, are finishing this community center,

994
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:44.960
which I'm one item away. As
soon as one of my fucking rabbits

995
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:46.599
drops a foot, I'm done.
Like I have a bunch of rabbits to

996
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:51.039
my coops, that's fucking morbid.
Yeah it drops a foot. Yeah,

997
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:53.000
you give them like it's gonna fall
off. I guess I need to put

998
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:57.719
a rabbit's foot into the community center
and then I'm done with it. That's

999
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.199
the only There's two ways to get
one. It's through or by killing serpents

1000
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:06.480
and the skull cavern. Sometimes they
will drop a rabbit's foot and got to

1001
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:09.639
go deep into the cavern, find
leprosy, bring it back right to the

1002
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:14.320
rabbit. Yeah right, okay,
yeah, yeah, so that is it

1003
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:16.639
seems like one of the biggest overarching
goals of the whole game. And then

1004
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:21.800
also getting married, and although I'm
also one item away from getting married,

1005
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.360
but it's winter, and to get
the marriage item, it has to be

1006
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:28.679
raining. And there's some shady guy
that hangs out on the beach in the

1007
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:30.559
rain, and you have to go
down to him and he'll sell you a

1008
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:36.239
mermaid's pendant which you can give to
propose to Abigail in this case. And

1009
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:38.480
then I'm already at ten hearts with
her. I already gave her the bouquet.

1010
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:43.280
We're dating, we're serious, but
I need the mermaids pendant otherwise I

1011
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:45.800
can't get married. Oh and it
can't rain because it's winter, because it'll

1012
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:49.920
yeah it snows. It does be
able to maintain her interest. Felt well,

1013
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:52.159
I think. So we're hanging out. We play co op Journey of

1014
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:55.239
the Prairie King or whatever every once
in a while. But yeah, I'm

1015
00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:00.039
two items away, one from marriage, one from the community center. I

1016
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.639
do want to have kids in the
game. I don't know exactly how long

1017
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:07.400
that takes or what spurs that on. But other than that, I think

1018
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:09.480
I need to visit the ghost of
my dead grandpa on New Year's Day of

1019
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:14.840
the thirty years. But once those
three things are done, which I think

1020
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:17.840
I'm pretty close to, I think
I've pretty much done the big goals of

1021
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:22.760
that game. Okay, I've done
a lot of things in that game.

1022
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:28.199
Your hour count seventy five. Now, it's respectable. It's it's just tremendously.

1023
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.480
And the thing is, I'm kind
of sad, I guess because I

1024
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:34.119
am still loving it. I don't
feel like this is still a grind,

1025
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.159
Like I want more reasons. Like
if I heard that year three was sprinkled

1026
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.760
with all this other stuff you could
do, I would one go for all

1027
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:44.199
that. So if he keeps adding
stuff to it, I will keep playing

1028
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:46.559
it for sure, because I adore
that game. Sounds like he is in

1029
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:51.079
a position to do that. The
way it's been selling, I imagine he's

1030
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:53.519
got, yes, got the capital
to keep going for quite some times.

1031
01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:59.360
Oh yes, yes, So what
a freaking like phenomenon that thing has become

1032
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:02.239
with With good reason, it's uh
man, it's one of my favorite games

1033
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:06.039
in years. Yeah, that's cool. It's really really something special. It's

1034
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:07.519
crazy to hear. Yeah. Yeah, I wrote a review went up on

1035
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:10.400
the site, you know, the
easiest five stars I could ever given.

1036
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:14.840
I mean, it's a very few
complaints about that game, and you know,

1037
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:16.039
I saw lots of people, you
know, I mentioned a few times

1038
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:19.480
in the review about how like this
was a one man effort and stuff,

1039
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:21.920
and you know there's some arguments like, oh you should you mentioned that in

1040
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:25.000
the review, and it's I if
this was made by the Assassin's Creed team

1041
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:28.639
of like five hundred people, I
would still love it just as much.

1042
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:30.119
But I mean, I think it's
definitely worth giving credit, you know,

1043
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:34.119
credits to do here, Like,
it's an amazing accomplishment this guy did.

1044
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:37.639
Also, it's your review. You
could linchen whatever you see exactly. Yeah,

1045
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:39.239
but but yeah, the point is
it's amazing whether it was a giant

1046
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:43.519
team or one guy. Yea,
but yeah, it's uh, I mean,

1047
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:45.400
the quality the game is. The
quality of the game, you know,

1048
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:49.920
just the circumstances of its creation just
make it that looch more impressive.

1049
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:52.039
Yeah, yeah, it's I can't
I can't rave about that game enough.

1050
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.480
It's really really incredible. But yeah, I'll be done with that soon.

1051
01:01:55.719 --> 01:02:00.639
Other than that, it's a lot
of clash and how's your flashing going?

1052
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:05.119
I have a goal there, okay, Uh my goal there is to beat

1053
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:07.400
Cesarro one on one, which Clash
or we're talking about and Royale that's the

1054
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.159
main one I like playing. Yeah, uh, Clash of Clans, I

1055
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:13.960
still have to keep up, but
I'm still so low on the totem pool

1056
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.679
in the Nikki clan. So you
think definitively that Royal is better, is

1057
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:21.880
a better game than Clans? Oh
my god? Yeah? I want to

1058
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:23.960
play Royale like that is super fun, even like when my chest slots are

1059
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:27.440
all filled up and everything, like, I want to play to get better

1060
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.840
at that game. Uh. And
you know the free to play elements and

1061
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:34.440
stuff. Yeah, it's it is
annoying waiting for the for the chest open

1062
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.960
and stuff like that. But I
think it's way worse in Clash of Clans

1063
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.679
because I'm at the point now where
it's pretty low bar. Yeah I know,

1064
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:44.320
I know, but like like all
these upgrades I'm trying to buy,

1065
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.280
it's like, okay, wait three
days and I see people in our chat

1066
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.880
saying like God damn. It takes
like two weeks for all my upgrades now,

1067
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.280
and that sucks. And yeah,
you can spend the gyms or buy

1068
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:57.320
gyms to make that go faster.
That fucking sucks. It's not great.

1069
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:01.760
So yeah, I am playing Clash
of Plans for you know, the greater

1070
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:07.400
cause. But Clash Royale I play
for fun. That's where your heart lies.

1071
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:09.880
Uh, Clash Royal yea, I
played constantly. I really like that

1072
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.840
game, and I think I'm like
actually getting good at it, Like,

1073
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.519
yeah, you really you can be
good at that game. Absolutely, there's

1074
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:17.119
a there's like a high skill ceiling
in that game. Like that's something that

1075
01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:20.840
people look at that they're like they
you know, thumb their nose at free

1076
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:23.599
play stuff, or they like wrongly
call it a skinner box, which is

1077
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:27.519
ridiculous. You know what I've seen, Like there's depth to it, for

1078
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.960
sure? Is that a refer is
that BF skinner the psychology I'm not I've

1079
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.880
never actually done the reading, but
I'm guessing that's the case. Is that

1080
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.400
the whole thing, like the rats
that would press the thing and they Okay,

1081
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:37.239
I kind of assume that's what I
meant, But this is this is

1082
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:40.320
not that at all. Like the
value the value in this game is not

1083
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:44.159
like pressing a button and getting a
trinket out of it, Like that's the

1084
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:46.960
argument level that destiny or like you
know, loot games, but like this

1085
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:51.559
is a strategy game with like the
high amount of like a pretty significant amount

1086
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:52.400
of depth to it. Like,
yeah, the excitement of the game and

1087
01:03:52.519 --> 01:03:55.159
doing well at it is the value
here. Like, yeah, it's nice

1088
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:59.440
to open a chest, but the
fun of it is when like you know,

1089
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:02.039
you're king cowries down to thirty six
hit points and you just fight off

1090
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:04.559
an attack and you get you know, you do some crazy bullshit right at

1091
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:08.199
the end and win. Yeah,
Like it is fun as a video totally,

1092
01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:12.599
like deploying some like like clutch off
the cuff combo of units that repels

1093
01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.440
what they're doing and like ekes out
a win. Like that's that's why the

1094
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:18.320
game is. That's sports. Yeah, No, I think it's a great

1095
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:21.440
I mean they are you know,
they totally run tournaments in this you can

1096
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:26.840
expect. Yeah, it basically is
an esport. Yeah, so then when

1097
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:31.239
ESPN two is broadcasting Clash Royale,
then come talk to Yeah. Until then,

1098
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:33.400
that's my bar. That's my bar. For is it real or not?

1099
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:38.039
Best best goblin barrel in a son. I got a goblin barrel.

1100
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:41.960
I got the fucking goblin barrel.
My deck is now like six epics.

1101
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:45.519
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's
pretty good the way it's got a goblin

1102
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:47.519
barrel. Okay. Uh got the
skeleton army yeah, oh man, I

1103
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:54.719
want the skeleton things great, damn
it, the rights, I don't Okay,

1104
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:58.199
Okay, I don't, it'll feel
so bad. I think I think

1105
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:01.199
hog Rider. I think hog Rider
is better than Prince. Really, yeah,

1106
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:03.360
I think so. Every time a
Prince comes after me just takes out

1107
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:06.519
a whole damn take. Prince is
too easily countered though. Any skeleton arm

1108
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:10.760
is like a riff machine. He
can plays right, get me wrong,

1109
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:15.840
it's right, but Prince is fucking
Prince. That's true. Actually, now

1110
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:19.079
that you put it that way,
it's it's it's a better game than it

1111
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:23.239
should be because I wish I could
stop playing it. Yeah, And there

1112
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:26.760
is that weird attitude people have towards
like mobile games or free to play games.

1113
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:28.159
But you know, when it comes
down to it, it's a good

1114
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:30.079
game. I mean, there are
legitimate criticisms of this game's business model,

1115
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.320
but like just just dismissing it out
of hand as a mobile game is just

1116
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:35.840
asimine. Yeah, and you know
what, they got ten bucks out of

1117
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.880
me, and I kind of want
to spend another ten bucks. So I

1118
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:42.880
mean, right, it is smart. Yeah, it's smart from a business

1119
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:45.960
perspective on their end, and it's
fun as a gamer on my end.

1120
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:48.760
So I mean, I have no
complaints about that game. Indeed, yep,

1121
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:53.280
So that's a that's mainly it like
star To pretty much every night.

1122
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:57.559
That'll be done once I get to
spring Y. Indeed, Drew, what's

1123
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:01.159
been on your plate? I've been
playing a little Dirt Rally on PS four

1124
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:06.159
yea, yeah, game's good.
Yeah, yeah, it's a good version

1125
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:10.719
of that. Is it just a
dirt sequel? Like? Did did they

1126
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:15.199
just stop numbering the dirt games?
Yes? But is this effectively dirt for

1127
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:18.239
they had to call it Dirt Rally
because they sort of fractured the dirt.

1128
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:21.519
That's That's what I was asking if
there was something about this that made it

1129
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:25.760
more than or different than just a
dirt sequel. It's basically a sequel to

1130
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:30.079
Dirt one because that was all rally
focused, Okay, whereas Dirt two got

1131
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.679
into more like stadium stuff where you
were going around in circles with a bunch

1132
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:36.840
of people. Yes, this is
all I point to point okay up in

1133
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:43.639
you know, Italy or wherever,
Scandinavia. Uh, And I like that.

1134
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.079
It's a nice return to form.
It runs great, it looks great.

1135
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:50.400
It's pretty hard, but you can
you can dial down the settings.

1136
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:56.639
Okay, I think that series is
tremendous and this is a faithful Probably,

1137
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:01.559
I really, I don't know where
i'd I'd probably put it up. I

1138
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:06.559
probably put it above Dirt one.
Yeah. How do the menus look?

1139
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:15.440
Normal menus like the cool Dirt two
manus. Yeah, that's some of the

1140
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:19.320
best menus still some seeds. Yeah, but aside from that, I canceled

1141
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:24.880
my cable, went hole hog into
PlayStation. Oh wow, that got cheaper,

1142
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:29.320
right, it got cheaper. It
is now forty dollars if you it's

1143
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:33.880
thirty outside of any of the big
cities. So if you're in a big

1144
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:36.199
city and there's a list of them
on the website, against like you know,

1145
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:40.239
New York, San Francisco, Los
Angeles, Chicago, those things,

1146
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:45.280
Denver, Miami. They include local
channels. If you're in one of those

1147
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.840
big cities. If you're outside of
one of those big cities, they don't

1148
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:50.960
include your local channels, so it's
cheaper. It's thirty dollars rather than forty.

1149
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:58.480
But I canceled my TV and saved
ninety dollars a month. Wow,

1150
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:02.079
that's it's not bad. That's definitely
enough to offset the cost of view.

1151
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:05.840
Yeah, it was still working well, ninety bucks at all, told,

1152
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:11.000
like after after the cost of yeah, I mean yeah, with what I

1153
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:13.440
was playing for a direct TV,
it would have ended up being like so

1154
01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:17.119
I was like that I was paying
for the stupid tier of Comcast because I

1155
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:20.000
had to get NBC Sports Network because
I watched watched Formula One. But that

1156
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:24.880
comes with the base tier of That's
that's a heck of a deal. Then

1157
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:30.520
that's cool. Yeah. Uh.
The interface of PlayStation views pretty weird and

1158
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.479
occasionally buggy ve something to be desired. Yeah. When I was using and

1159
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:38.720
trying to watch wrestling, it was
I'll do it. When I was trying

1160
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:42.840
to record wrestling with PlayStation view,
it just didn't work. Yeah, like

1161
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:45.119
it just I think I was trying
to do you a favor. Yeah,

1162
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.600
I guess. As it turns out, it's been it's been great, turned

1163
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:51.039
out to be better off. It's
been great not watching wrestling. The cool

1164
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:56.840
part is if you have an app
for some channel, like so for NBC

1165
01:08:56.960 --> 01:08:59.760
Sports Network, they have their own
app, but usually have to log in

1166
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.439
using your TV credentials like your Comcast
account of whatever. You can log in

1167
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:06.319
with PlayStation Yeah, you still have
to do all. You still have to

1168
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:10.760
exit out to the app to use
it or no. This is on phones

1169
01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:15.479
on phones, but there is also
a PlayStation View app where you can watch

1170
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:21.439
stuff that you've flagged, but that
is a per show licensing. So for

1171
01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:26.720
example, I can't watch Formula One
using the PlayStation View app, but I

1172
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:31.039
can using the NBC Sports app.
That sounds confusing. It's cheap television licensing

1173
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:33.960
is a fucking night. Yeah yeah, as long as it's cheaper, I

1174
01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:39.000
guess. Yeah, buddy, so
excited. Cool? Did you get the

1175
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:41.760
did you get the remote for the
PS four? You just use a control

1176
01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:47.000
okay, yeah, it's good stuff
that come with functionality, So it's not

1177
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:51.800
a DVR. They actually you just
say I you flag a show basically,

1178
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.920
and then after it airs or even
when it's airing, it'll just show up

1179
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.960
in your my show's tab and then
when you click on it to play,

1180
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:03.000
it streams that show from PlayStation services. You're just you're just you're just watching

1181
01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:06.720
an on debated version. You never
record anything to your hard drivel functionally though,

1182
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:10.840
it is. I mean you can
access shows after you can rewind fast

1183
01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:13.000
forward. Does that Does that stuff
expire? Is it like, oh,

1184
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:15.279
like two weeks after an episode airs, you can't watch for days or something.

1185
01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:17.800
I think that. I think episodes
of a show will expire, Okay

1186
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:20.960
at some point, I guess I
don't know that much worse than a DVR.

1187
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:27.039
Yeah. Also, like if you
replay a show that aired on multiple

1188
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:29.520
channels, you can pick which channel
you watch it on, what do you

1189
01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:31.239
get all the cops with it and
stuff? Yeah, that was one of

1190
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:36.159
my problems with wrestling because one of
the higher tiers had a different version of

1191
01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:40.399
wrestling. There was like the two
hour cut or something like that, and

1192
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.760
it would show that instead. Sometimes
it's just weird. It was very inconsistent.

1193
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.159
Yeah, there, their data is
perhaps not great on the channel or

1194
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:49.920
like on the scheduling side, this
episode the same as this episode, is

1195
01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:53.479
this fresh air? Is this is
this is airing new? Or is this

1196
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.600
a rerun like like some of that. It's like in a very an obscure

1197
01:10:56.680 --> 01:11:01.159
show, like some weird uh form
of race. It'll just say like racing,

1198
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:05.159
yeah, and that can get looped
in with other stuff and it may

1199
01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:09.560
not line up correctly. But it
sounds like it's getting there though. It's

1200
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:15.720
getting there. Just took it nationwide
like last week. So hopefully that means

1201
01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:18.560
I'll stick around for a while,
because I'm quite enjoying not paying you cut

1202
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:21.560
the you're a cord cutter? I
did, but like I still have a

1203
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:27.960
lot of TV channels, yeah,
yeah, too many to watch? All

1204
01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:30.840
right, the games we've been playing. Why don't we move into the headlines

1205
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:35.960
of the week. Let's yes,
I'll see all those inex controller photos did

1206
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:40.319
little football. There's quite a world
win there? Yes, where it sure

1207
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:42.720
was? The tree was the same
tree, yeah, the first one.

1208
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:45.159
The first one was dubious. But
the first one you look at and go

1209
01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:48.119
like no way, yeah, and
like my reasons for saying there's no way,

1210
01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:53.600
we're we're pretty sound. Uh.
And then when those second ones hit,

1211
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:56.600
I was like, well, wait
a minute, yeah, because like,

1212
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:00.079
well it was less certain at that
point. Yeah, totally okay,

1213
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:01.920
Well, wait, and then then
it became like, well, wait,

1214
01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:04.600
if this first one is getting debunked
is fake, what does that say about

1215
01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:08.920
this second one? Maybe it wasn't
fake to begin with. Well guess what

1216
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:11.880
they were all thorofic. Let's just
say that up front. But it's still

1217
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:15.279
worth talking about because we're not that
far out from that thing presumably getting actually

1218
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.520
unvias. Yeah, it looks like, you know, it looks like two

1219
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:21.800
separate people or groups or I don't
know who we got track back to,

1220
01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:26.079
but you know, like they just
kind of looked at Nintendo's patent filing of

1221
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:30.880
like this kind of handheld device,
uh, and made one of those like

1222
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.600
physically yeah, shopped one out,
de printed. Whatever they did didn't even

1223
01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:36.479
really change it from what the patent. Yes, Yeah, that's that's the

1224
01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:39.640
most telling. Yes, And that's
the thing you look at and go like,

1225
01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:44.479
well, this is fake because they
don't file patents based on one exactly

1226
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:46.880
what they're doing. They just cover
all the bases of the thing they're making

1227
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:50.800
and then have a different form factor
so you don't get a look at what

1228
01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:54.840
they're actually making. I loved all
the people saying like, you know,

1229
01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:57.720
there there's stuff like like, oh, it's got let's sticker on it.

1230
01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:00.800
This says confidential property made with a
label maker, or of course it's fake.

1231
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:04.680
It's like, dude, I have
seen a label maker labels on that.

1232
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:09.359
Because yeah, because like all that
hardware shows up as a studio and

1233
01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:12.840
then one person checks it all in
and and marks it up and tethers it

1234
01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:15.920
to tables or whatever they end up
doing. And as part of that process,

1235
01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:19.039
literally these builds are like CDRs with
sharpie right, yeah, yeah,

1236
01:13:19.119 --> 01:13:21.640
yeah, it's like that. That
that was not a red flag. But

1237
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:25.520
but the fact, yeah, the
fact that it literally was just a reproduction

1238
01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:27.439
of the patent millis that was the
thing. It was like, there's no

1239
01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:29.520
way this can be real. But
then when there were more pictures, I

1240
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:31.960
was like, well, wait,
they wouldn't be that stupid like that.

1241
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:34.720
That was the other thing, was
like Nintendo couldn't possibly be that stupid,

1242
01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:39.720
could they? And then by the
time I kind of finished rolling that around

1243
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:41.960
in my head and came out that
that one was fake too, I was

1244
01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.800
like, all right, okay,
all right, it was a pretty good

1245
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:46.880
fake. Yeah. Well so,
I mean the most eye opening thing about

1246
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:49.680
the whole shebaying for me was that
it was a physical object. Yeah,

1247
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:53.000
like it was. He printed that, Yeah, like put the video out

1248
01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:55.439
about how he made it. It's
like, it's cool. It's pretty easy

1249
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:59.039
to make a realistic looking fake when
it's a real object that you made took

1250
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:00.840
a photo of for sure. And
you know people have been doing that with

1251
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:06.079
iPhones and stuff like that as as
like iPhone case specs start to leak somewhere

1252
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:10.600
eventually like tries to like manufacture.
Yeah, well you get a lot of

1253
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:13.640
renders of iPhones and stuff. But
like seeing a thing on a table that

1254
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:17.119
looks fully believable as a photograph of
a real object is like pretty like up

1255
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:19.720
until now, like up until this
incident, it was like, well that

1256
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:25.159
must probably actually be real, but
nope. Now you can't trust anything on

1257
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:27.159
the internet at all ever. Anyway, Yeah, I know, did you

1258
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:31.159
see the video of like them like
being able to manipulate recorded footage of mouth

1259
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:34.359
movement and stuff? Like what's that
thing called I forget? But we're there

1260
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:39.119
somebody somebody put it in slack last
week. There's uh, it's like a

1261
01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:42.640
university research project. Yeah. It's
like if they're using a basic webcam to

1262
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:46.199
look at your face and you move
your mouth and it moves the mouth of

1263
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:50.600
a prerecorded like you know, they
were they were using you know, presidential

1264
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:54.520
candidates and stuff like the video of
Donald Trump on there, but like they

1265
01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:58.720
literally are building the person's face in
three D and just mapping the image of

1266
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:02.079
their face onto it and then it
tracks your facial movements to that three D

1267
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:08.359
face stuff. Personally, first person
basically taking this footage of Donald Trump talking,

1268
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:12.960
sitting in a chair talking and completely
reanimating what his face is doing and

1269
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.920
saying throughout this entire video, like
and it was with his voice like change

1270
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:21.359
that would that would be you know, be a good impressionist or something like

1271
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:25.039
that. For now, that's probably
the only thing that's going to keep this

1272
01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:27.920
from from being passed off as real. But it was very much like a

1273
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:32.640
scary Minority Minority Report future moment of
like you're not gonna be able to trust

1274
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:38.119
footage of people talking for much longer, for like maybe another year or two

1275
01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:41.960
before like everything is in quarry out
there with images and everything out you know,

1276
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.640
it's it's like the one two punch
of that that that YouTube stuff and

1277
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:48.359
the innex controller. It was a
real dark moment of really interesting period,

1278
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:53.000
because then it'll just be back to
I was in that room and he said

1279
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:56.359
this, yeah, and then it's
like you don't have you don't have Wow,

1280
01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:00.840
you don't have that anymore. Yeah
the footage, Yeah, like,

1281
01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:04.039
how do you authenticate any of that
stuff? And there will have I'm sure

1282
01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:08.199
b ways, but nothing is true. Everything is permitted exactly. Yes,

1283
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:14.880
uh yeah. So the thing about
the n X stuff is like I get

1284
01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.079
the impression that a lot of that
stuff will end up being stuff that we

1285
01:16:18.199 --> 01:16:21.840
eventually see as part of the NX
rollout, you know, like some of

1286
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:26.880
that stuff I think checks out,
but at the same time not in that

1287
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:30.600
form factor not a football not yet, not a not a weird oval thing.

1288
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:33.880
Yeah, but I mean the big
thing everybody flip their shit over,

1289
01:16:34.079 --> 01:16:36.439
and who knows if this will actually
come to past or not, is like

1290
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:40.600
this idea of a thing that's just
a screen in a couple of sticks,

1291
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.119
like no buttons. Yeah. I
guess we talking about that stuff before.

1292
01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:47.319
It was the implication there. The
from what I saw, like anecdotally,

1293
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:53.399
people reregistered their objections to the idea
of a thing with no buttons. Buttons

1294
01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:58.720
are good, you know. Yeah, Like and if you think about this

1295
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:04.640
device is something that you know would
theoretically be a console, uh, and

1296
01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:10.800
have to run on a television.
Then you get into a point where you

1297
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:14.600
need to be able to use the
device without looking at it, and buttons

1298
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:18.960
are the way you do that.
So you know, people can fucking shout

1299
01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:23.159
over and over again about haptic feedback
and how great it is all this stuff,

1300
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:26.479
it's not I mean, if it's
not the thing if you're playing on

1301
01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:29.199
a TV, though, couldn't they
easily say, like, here's the pro

1302
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:31.359
controller for the NX and so this
is the one for when you're playing at

1303
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:33.720
home. But then you're looking at
it, like, I like the idea

1304
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.960
I don't want on screen see we'll
see, you know, it's it's it's

1305
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:42.000
hard. I mean the notion,
but the notion of this even being a

1306
01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:45.520
hybrid device, that that is a
console and a handheld, like that's not

1307
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:50.199
even something we can we don't really, you know, it's it's hard to

1308
01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:55.159
really know until they until they come
right out and say it, But you

1309
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:58.439
know, it's I'd have to imagine
they're smart enough to know that. Like,

1310
01:17:58.920 --> 01:18:02.600
look at any iPhone or iPad game
where it's you know, an analog

1311
01:18:02.680 --> 01:18:08.760
stick on the screen and it sucks. Look at any iPhone game that is

1312
01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:13.479
raking in millions of dollars a day
with zero controls and realize that, like,

1313
01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:18.159
maybe that's a direction that the younger
audience is heading in, and think

1314
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:21.520
about, you know, maybe Nintendo
is interested in making different types of games

1315
01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:26.239
now don't require a bunch of dots
and stuff. You know, it's like

1316
01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:29.359
you're you're, you're making the assumption
that Nintendo is going to continue to make

1317
01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:32.359
like Mario, Yeah, exact games
and stuff like that where you know,

1318
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:35.560
direct control, like games that where
you directly control a character with a bunch

1319
01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:39.319
of complicated controls. I mean,
it's not what the touch market is.

1320
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:41.680
Yeah, that's that's what brought them
to the dance, and I think there's

1321
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:43.760
still a lot of money to be
made there. But you know, there's

1322
01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:47.439
nothing wrong with them trying to maybe
have it both ways. I think you're

1323
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:50.439
starting to see that with the DNA
stuff and me Telmo and yeah for sure,

1324
01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:55.800
and they're out there experimenting now,
so who knows where this stuff ends

1325
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:58.800
up, but you know it's you
might be right, like this thing could

1326
01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:01.479
be like all one handheld everybody in
visions but also there's like a pro controller

1327
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:04.840
style right straight up just control or
in the box that you play the TV

1328
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:08.840
version of the games with. If
if that's how it all like the real

1329
01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:15.840
you can say at this point,
yeah, yes, but yeah it's so

1330
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.600
yeah, you know, it's one
of those things that E three is going

1331
01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:23.000
to be extremely interesting across the board
with a lot of this stuff, you

1332
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:28.560
know, with this, with you
know whatever updated PlayStation, updated Xbox,

1333
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:31.000
potential stuff that that may come to
pass down the line, Like how does

1334
01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:34.920
that manifest the E three? Like
it's see what VR games are announced?

1335
01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:38.640
Yeah? Sure, I think Yeah, it's gonna be a really weird E

1336
01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:42.560
three. Yeah. Yeah, Like
this E three got crazy exciting for announcements

1337
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:45.359
all of a sudden, Like we're
action packed at least, right, just

1338
01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:48.880
a lot of stuff to anticipate.
Uh, if nothing else, people are

1339
01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:54.479
super hot to learn about the AX
apparently, yeah, like whatever whatever kind

1340
01:19:54.479 --> 01:19:57.279
of failure you want to call the
WU, Like, people are very interested

1341
01:19:57.319 --> 01:20:00.760
in Nintendo's x console, so at
least they got that going for But you

1342
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:01.479
know, I like how many millions
of the you know, how much of

1343
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:05.680
that is like people on the internet
and that are interested in anything that happens

1344
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:09.479
in video games, and how much
of that is like a larger audience like,

1345
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:12.039
yeah, that's the thing is.
I think the larger audience will go

1346
01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:15.520
like, oh, they made a
new this is the thing after the Wei

1347
01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:19.239
Wow. Great, Wow it only
took up ten years. Yeah, we

1348
01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:23.960
you too. But depending on how
deep they go into touchscreen buttons and all

1349
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:26.439
the other stuff, you will eventually
have you know, if you go too

1350
01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:28.800
far down that road, you'll have
a mainstream audience that just goes like,

1351
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:32.800
so this isn't a phone, Yeah
my phone? That yeah, that totally

1352
01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:35.399
seems like the danger selling to people
who already have a phone, Like who

1353
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:40.159
wants to carry two devices? Right? Sure? Uh? But who can

1354
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:46.159
say? Uh? So, this
news about the NXU was part and parcel

1355
01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:50.199
kind of with this other story that
came out of the Japanese newspaper the Nick.

1356
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:55.479
Yeah that Nintendo is supposedly, according
to them, ending production of the

1357
01:20:55.520 --> 01:21:00.560
Wi You this year, that they
will not make any more units right at

1358
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:05.920
twenty sixteen. But then Nintendo fairly
quickly came out and said nah, but

1359
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:11.119
I feel like their statement was very
much about like, we will will continue

1360
01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:15.720
making them in this quarter and additional
quarters. Yeah, but like the if

1361
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:17.920
you go fiscal versus calendar and like
like starts to break that stuff down.

1362
01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:23.199
Like I don't know, I didn't
follow the story far enough, but it

1363
01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:26.720
seems one of those things where they
didn't necessarily just say no. The wording

1364
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.600
here's the wording of Nintendo's response is, this isn't an announcement from our company

1365
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:33.159
from the next quarter and thereafter as
well, production of the WEU a schedule

1366
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:36.279
to continue. All right, okay, yeah, what games you're coming out

1367
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:41.000
for it though? Yeah, well
you know E three's coming, so yeah,

1368
01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:44.920
I'm not expecting many WEU announcements at
three. Yeah, totally. And

1369
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:49.279
also the Kataker story where I got
this quote from points out that Nick has

1370
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:55.159
a good track record definitely do like
behind the scenes info that turns out to

1371
01:21:55.199 --> 01:22:00.560
be accurate, So you know this
This then plays into in does the NX

1372
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.960
launch uh and and all that sort
of stuff as well. Uh yeah,

1373
01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:08.760
and all because if they they're stopping
manufacturing, you know, that could be

1374
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:11.319
very well because they have a fucking
warehouse full of these things, right,

1375
01:22:11.399 --> 01:22:14.239
you know, and and when they'll
have supply for some time, they may

1376
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:15.359
not need to make more I forget, I forget what it was. But

1377
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:20.800
I bought my Wi You like two
years after it came out, a year

1378
01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:24.720
and a half, and I forget
what it was. But there were signs

1379
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.760
that what I got was I launched
un oh right, like I bought.

1380
01:22:27.880 --> 01:22:30.159
I granted it was the Nintendo Land
bundle. They're like the I think the

1381
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:32.880
wind Waker Bundle was out at that
time too, but I wanted the original.

1382
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:35.600
But but I'd forget what it was. But there was something that made

1383
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:39.840
me think, this is a unit
that was on shelves or had been made

1384
01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:42.399
for launch, or was I one
of the launch bundles or something. Why

1385
01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:45.199
did you want Nintendo Land ever?
Wind Waker? Oh? I had Windwaker

1386
01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:50.520
from from the office. Also also
could not stand that dumb ask gold trim

1387
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:56.600
on the week controller. Oh right, and they filled up. Not a

1388
01:22:56.640 --> 01:23:00.600
fan of that. Looks gross,
But uh, yeah, they might have

1389
01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:02.159
a ton of them sitting around that
they will continue to sell or who does.

1390
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:04.680
Yeah, yeah, it's it's not
this is not like end of life

1391
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:09.239
for the console necessarily, but you
know, but I can't imagine like if

1392
01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:12.119
they're if they're really going to lean
into the launch of a new platform.

1393
01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:15.600
It's not like they have teams kicking
around like what's gonna be our next WU

1394
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:18.079
game, here's the big Mario game. It turns out, turns out three

1395
01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:20.840
D World was your big Mario game
for this generation, or you know it

1396
01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:25.359
is one. It's like, hey, we're announcing it right now and it's

1397
01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:27.880
out in three months, right,
But I mean the land is coming to

1398
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:30.399
the other thing as well. The
people, the people looking for the traditional

1399
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:33.520
three D Mario like falling in the
Galaxy footsteps, are not going to get

1400
01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:36.560
one on the wu Yeah. Probably
it's safe to say. You know,

1401
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:40.720
you wouldn't sit here and say the
book on the WIU is closed, but

1402
01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:45.399
it is closing. Yes, So
the idea of like announcing a bunch of

1403
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:49.359
new development for the wu AY three
seems somewhat preposterous, even three DS to

1404
01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:53.640
a certain extent. Yeah, if
they really are going to lean into what

1405
01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:58.640
nx uh seems to maybe be three
D five years old. It just it

1406
01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:03.159
just turned five. Yeah, I'm
guess, man, it's crazy that that

1407
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:08.279
devices ended up being okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's good.

1408
01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:11.000
Had good moments. Well, you
know, I actually as say I've

1409
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:13.000
had good moments with them now that
I'm like trying to think, like,

1410
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:15.359
what were the games. Link between
Worlds play that it's good. Yeah,

1411
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:17.760
yeah, that's good. Yeah,
it's really good. Three D Land,

1412
01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:23.680
Yeah, those are two of the
best games. And Leave Yeah that was

1413
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:27.840
another, but that was another Animal
Crossing Yeah, great one. Yeah,

1414
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.680
they're all great steel divers. They
should make Steel Diver, that's of course.

1415
01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:34.159
Yeah, I think I think I
think three D Land and like Between

1416
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:39.840
Worlds are the two for me.
Those are probably my top TWA. Those

1417
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.960
are two good games, but they're
not games that I like feel any passion

1418
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.600
for right now, you know,
they're they're like if I'm looking back at

1419
01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:46.960
the platform, like I'm trying to
think about moments, they're like, oh

1420
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:50.359
man, yeah, like i'd take
Link between Worlds is definitely my number one.

1421
01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:56.439
Yeah, street Fighter four and three
D big moment and it like half

1422
01:24:56.479 --> 01:24:59.880
the half frame rate and three D
yeah, I got I think. I

1423
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:00.880
I pulled the email for this,
we'll get back to it. But I

1424
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:05.119
heard some heard some pretty gross stuff
about High Rule Warriors in that oh in

1425
01:25:05.239 --> 01:25:09.079
that respect. Oh yeah, I'll
save that. I'll save that for the

1426
01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:15.319
email. Yes, uh, Nintendo
stuff to come in in the coming months.

1427
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:18.119
Yes, all right, Yeah,
they announced the date for the US

1428
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:23.399
date. Yeah, that's out this
week first Thursday here, yeahs Thursday here.

1429
01:25:23.399 --> 01:25:25.159
I'm stay first sad about that.
I mean, we could have all

1430
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:27.920
just made Japanese accounts and guy,
I was just worried that that would lead

1431
01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:31.000
to some fuckery down the line where
I would not be able to get something

1432
01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:33.680
or she. I was like,
I'm just gonna play here and wait,

1433
01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:35.159
what is it? Do it?
Legit? You could? You could have

1434
01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:39.840
made a Japanese App Store account or
an Apple account and gotten me Tomo like

1435
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:43.079
two weeks ago, I think it
was. It's Nintendo's too, is their

1436
01:25:43.079 --> 01:25:46.039
first first it's you make a me, and then it talks to other people

1437
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:49.439
who have made me's, and it
tells other people things about you that you

1438
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:51.720
have told your me. I don't
think it's a game, it's yeah,

1439
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:57.920
it's it's more like understanding social communicator. But I saw John Riccardi posted a

1440
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:03.039
photo or a screenshot of his like
he's wearing like a Zeno's Zeno Blade costume

1441
01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:06.359
or something you can get costumes for
your me, So it seems to be

1442
01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:10.760
very full of that, like Nintendo
brand of weirdness, which I'm way into,

1443
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:14.199
so like that, like, yeah, right, that could be cool.

1444
01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:16.640
The thing that it's it's the thing
where this breaks for me is I

1445
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:20.520
still think me's look fucking dumb that
I don't know, I'm fine with it.

1446
01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:25.479
I think they should redesign their fake
characters because I think that someone looks

1447
01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:29.319
stupid as someone who now has all
three me amibos, the brawler, the

1448
01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:31.520
sword fighter, and the gunner.
I'm a fan. I think I think

1449
01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:35.399
the me, the appearance of the
style of the me, like the style

1450
01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:40.640
Bible of the me, is to
embedded in the consciousness of the mainstream.

1451
01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:43.279
Like all those people that bought We's
that don't really buy video games, like

1452
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:45.760
they would still recognize what to me
looks like, right. I like that.

1453
01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:49.319
I think stuff is probably too mainstream
to change it up. At this

1454
01:26:49.399 --> 01:26:54.439
point, Microsoft Avatar still exists anywhere
they just brought them back. There still

1455
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:58.560
Xbox one up tape, Like there's
nobody shows an Avatar store on the Xbox

1456
01:26:58.640 --> 01:27:01.199
One. Yeah, for all those
places that they surface your avatar Xbox ward,

1457
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:03.279
I don't know where do you even
see that? No idea, don't

1458
01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:06.439
know like that, like in the
Avatar creator. Yeah, like, I

1459
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:10.640
think they're on the website too,
and the Windows ten app. I think

1460
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:13.560
I might show Yeah, yes they
do. I'm there too. Weird Okay,

1461
01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:15.079
it's it's weird. It's like,
oh, right, at some point,

1462
01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:19.960
I got an Optimus Prime head.
Okay, I have a Beatles Rock

1463
01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:23.439
I got. I was like,
oh, I could change that or not.

1464
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:26.720
I think I've still got my Beatles
Rock band shirt and my debit af

1465
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:29.880
chan right, Like, I got
way more into avatars than it these because

1466
01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:32.159
of all the ridiculous marketing shit that
they create. I'm I'm way more excited

1467
01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:38.399
that it's on some level somewhere.
My Xbox accounts still has the fucking Pringles

1468
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:41.399
logo right as it's icon Right,
I've got, I've got. The icons

1469
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:43.960
were always cooler than the avatar.
I still got Will Smith from Been in

1470
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:46.640
Black three as my Gabor piz Like
this is so dub like I was using

1471
01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:50.439
like we all had burger keying icons
for so long. It was. It

1472
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:55.800
was. It was so bad because
because we love brands as a millennium,

1473
01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:00.479
I believe you mean hashtag brands as
a hashtag MILLENNI the all, y,

1474
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:05.560
well, let's hashtag move on.
To the mix hashtag story. Uh,

1475
01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:15.319
let's see Sony shut down Evolution Studios, makers of motor Storm, something else.

1476
01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:17.359
I'm trying to remember World Rally Championship, and then most recently Drive Club.

1477
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:20.600
Yeah, which is weird because they're
out there showing Drive Club in VR.

1478
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:24.720
So I maybe maybe work on that
is done and that's that. Maybe

1479
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:29.039
someone else did somebody else, I
wonder. Yeah, I mean obviously Drive

1480
01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:32.600
Club was kind of yeah, that
was that was you know, almost used

1481
01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:34.800
the word disaster. I don't know
if that's quite I wouldn't. I might

1482
01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:38.960
hear it fiasco fiasco, Okay in
terms of it's suff you know, you

1483
01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.439
could say what you will about the
quality of the game post launched. They're

1484
01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:43.880
bottles. There were apparently some people
that did like that game. Yeah,

1485
01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:45.640
totally, I don't think. I
don't think it was a good game.

1486
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:46.760
They're totally people that like Drive Club. But like, even if you like

1487
01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:51.279
it, like the launch was was
a mass rocky, a mess of like

1488
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.760
delays and all this other stuff that
like it became a fire that Sony had

1489
01:28:56.760 --> 01:29:00.640
to put out at some point.
But but with that stuff actually for way

1490
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:04.479
longer than it should have, like
kind of like weeks of working that Ontoline

1491
01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:08.159
stuff that didn't work, and there
was like when was the free for PlayStation

1492
01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:13.960
plus members everything going to launch?
Like the saga of Drive Clubs rollout is

1493
01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:16.000
the is the bigger story here as
opposed to like the actual quality of the

1494
01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:18.399
final product, Right, So I
guess I guess in that light it's not

1495
01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:23.600
that surprising necessarily, but it's still
like, you know, like motor Storm

1496
01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:26.680
is kind of like a I feel
like motor Storm was well liked and it

1497
01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:29.920
has a cycle of sequels and I
almost called it like a hallowed name.

1498
01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:31.479
Maybe that's gonna be a little too
much credit, but like people definitely look

1499
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:35.880
back fondly on the absolutely they look
great at the time. There was Yeah,

1500
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:41.000
I was never, honestly like never
a huge fan of the motor Storm

1501
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:45.479
games, but I respected them from
a safe distance. Sure, So you

1502
01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:48.399
know, in that sense, it's
kind of sad to see the studio go

1503
01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:53.319
away. But yeah, yeah,
such as the cutthroat nature of the video

1504
01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:57.920
game business, I suppose, and
you know, Sony has so many first

1505
01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:00.800
party games coming out, you know, they just don't need the studio.

1506
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:04.159
That's that's the real kicker here,
is like what the fuck are they making?

1507
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:09.760
Yeah? E three? Man,
wait till E three would be a

1508
01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:15.319
wild ride. Get on board.
I don't know how newsworthy this is.

1509
01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:17.279
It is worth talking about this weird
you can play Dark Souls three now an

1510
01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:19.760
English thing? Yeah, I guess. I don't know what I feel like.

1511
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:23.079
It got it got to the it
got to the point where both Microsoft

1512
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:25.800
and Namco came out and issued statements
on it. So I guess it's worth

1513
01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:30.520
Yeah, look at the Xbox One
version. Yes, it's yeah, well

1514
01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:31.920
yeah, so I maybe more generally, like, we got a bunch of

1515
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:35.000
emails about this too, about like
it's basically Dark Souls three launched like three

1516
01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:39.079
weeks early in Japan. Yeah,
three weeks before he's coming out here,

1517
01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:42.000
right right, Hey, A lot
of people are super upset about that because

1518
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:45.119
they want to play Dark Souls okay
in English? All right? Uh,

1519
01:30:45.640 --> 01:30:47.079
but be it revealed this trick,
and I don't know if it's gonna work

1520
01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:51.079
with other Xbox games. One weird
trick to play Dark Souls three. Microsoft

1521
01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:56.319
hates it literally enough that they put
out a statement about it. But also,

1522
01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:59.239
like how often the games come out
in Japan that much earlier? It's

1523
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:01.520
not that frequently. It is very
rare. It's like an outlier at this

1524
01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:06.119
point, but it's quite frequently or
quite earlier. Yes, three weeks.

1525
01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:10.399
It's a It's a good spread,
especially for something that people desperately want to

1526
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:13.119
get their hands on, like Dark
Souls. Uh So, basically, if

1527
01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:15.199
you went through all the legwork of
buying the Japanese version on the surface,

1528
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:20.039
right, created a Japanese Xbox Live
accounts and purchased it there, got got

1529
01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:24.079
you could then play it with your
domestic account. Well yeah, but it

1530
01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:27.680
was more than it was very specific
order of steps because if you bought the

1531
01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:31.119
Japanese version by getting the credit on
the Japanese version of the store, you

1532
01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:35.680
had to then uh signed back into
your US account and set your region back

1533
01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:40.520
to English before you download the game. My understanding was if you downloaded the

1534
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:43.560
game and then reset your region,
you would still be playing in Japanese.

1535
01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:46.199
Okay, you had to have the
regions set proper English, so you're like

1536
01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:49.760
actually getting a different build of the
game, wow, depending on what region

1537
01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:54.079
you have set at the time of
download. Right. Uh So, anyway,

1538
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:56.439
people, yeah, people used that
initially. You know, people were

1539
01:31:56.479 --> 01:32:00.079
pre ordering the PS four version because
assuming in which it does you know a

1540
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:02.239
little better and stuff, but that
one is locked in Japanese regardless. But

1541
01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:06.079
right the Xbox you could just straight
up play the English localized version of our

1542
01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:09.800
Souls three, which, of course
three weeks before release, that version is

1543
01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:11.720
going to be done too. It's
not like like, oh, we need

1544
01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:15.880
the three weeks to make it English. Although, but you know, Namco

1545
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.720
came out and said like, hey, yes it's out in Japan, and

1546
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:20.279
you know, we're happy that people
are just stoked about playing the game.

1547
01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:25.000
But it does not have the day
one patch, which I understand is still

1548
01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:29.880
actually a day three week patch for
people in Japan, I'm guessing. And

1549
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.319
also and also the online stuff is
not enabled, which is a huge part

1550
01:32:32.359 --> 01:32:35.920
of the Souls games. Is that
not enabled in just this English build?

1551
01:32:36.319 --> 01:32:39.800
Like across the board, Well,
what the fuck? I have no idea.

1552
01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:41.680
What the fuck are people in Japan
even do? Right? So at

1553
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:45.119
that point, it's it's it's it's
that's not like an early access launch,

1554
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:47.520
right, it's you live in Japan
and bought the Japanese version of the game,

1555
01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:53.079
you still don't have Yeah, that
is my understanding. What Yeah,

1556
01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:58.439
on just the Xbox or across the
board. That's that's what the that is

1557
01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:00.439
insane. So yeah, I pull
up I could pull at the email.

1558
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:01.920
Yeah, we got an email from
them that was kind of saying like,

1559
01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:08.960
hey, maybe don't review it because
up yet. Well, I mean fuck

1560
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:12.279
that. I could go if I
can go buy it, do whatever the

1561
01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:14.760
fuck I want. While you're talking
about don't review the one that you can

1562
01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:16.479
buy, I don't know if I
don't want to say. The statement was

1563
01:33:16.520 --> 01:33:18.960
more like, hey, this this
version. It was it was part of

1564
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:23.680
them saying they're like, there's still
a Day one patch coming. That there

1565
01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:28.880
was very much like I got it
up here, and and it was one

1566
01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:30.560
of those things where like, yes, you could do that, but also

1567
01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:34.239
correct me if I'm wrong. I
don't think they sent the Xbox One version

1568
01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:39.439
out for review. A lot of
people got PS four debug builds, and

1569
01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:43.199
then we got PC codes, which
was a totally different story of broken,

1570
01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:45.600
bucked upness. There are some issues
there too, but yeah, like if

1571
01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:50.760
people are asking why did this not
come out here now, like that patch

1572
01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:54.039
isn't out a certain yet, the
online stuff is not working, and that

1573
01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:58.039
PC build we got has some significant
crashing issues. Yeah, so those are

1574
01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:00.920
probably the reasons that it's not out
in the US yet. I guess,

1575
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:03.479
yeah, I don't know, man, I still got still got the that's

1576
01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:06.600
time of this recording. The still
got two weeks to clean that stuff up

1577
01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:13.119
before it actually comes out here.
Dark Souls three International Version Update BANDI Namco

1578
01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:15.079
Entertainment America, Inc. Is very
thankful to see so much interest for Dark

1579
01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:17.399
Souls three on the week of its
Japanese launch. We are aware that some

1580
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:21.159
fans in Western countries are currently able
to download the international version of the game.

1581
01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:26.239
We would like to take this opportunity
to inform Dark Souls three fans that

1582
01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:30.920
any gameplay they may make may experience
prior to the official April twelfth release date

1583
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:33.279
for the game will not be complete. The international version of the game currently

1584
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:38.800
does not have its multi multiplayer capabilities
activated, nor does it include the contents

1585
01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:42.600
of a planned Day one patch that
will deliver further optimization of the game.

1586
01:34:43.119 --> 01:34:45.800
Players will be able to download the
Day one patch on April twelve, the

1587
01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:49.319
official international release date for Dark Souls
three, and if you have any questions,

1588
01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:51.439
feel free to contact me. Yeah, so that is the statement I

1589
01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:55.439
got see that doesn't address reviews at
all. That that's just addressed to like

1590
01:34:55.960 --> 01:35:00.800
so, but I think the subtext
there is like, hey, this is

1591
01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:04.560
not like hey we held you to
an April twelfth embargo, please don't fucking

1592
01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:09.319
download this one and run a review
earlier. That to me is the subtext

1593
01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:14.439
of that which you know at some
point you're like, well, okay hearing

1594
01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:16.800
that, Like the multiplayer stuff is
straight up not turned on across any version

1595
01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:21.880
of the game. Uh, it
might be working in the PC version,

1596
01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:25.800
Vini, Vinny and Austin have those
codes. I don't, I don't know,

1597
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:30.079
but it's the PC version now in
Japan. No, that's not then

1598
01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:31.640
that's not a factor. Yeah,
yeah, I'm saying like, like the

1599
01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:36.359
notion that there are people buying this
game in any territory and like not having

1600
01:35:36.479 --> 01:35:41.239
multiplayer work at all is like what
the It really makes you wonder why they

1601
01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:44.199
launched it when they did it.
They're supposed to not just waiting until the

1602
01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:46.760
twelfth of April for all territories or
thereabouts. Like that's that's one of those

1603
01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:50.159
things, like you know, and
and there's been a lot of you know,

1604
01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:56.000
talk about like like reviewing those games
is difficult in under a lot of

1605
01:35:56.039 --> 01:35:59.079
different circumstances because of the nature of
those games. But it's one of those

1606
01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:02.199
things where I think reviewing those games
based on versions that are not online and

1607
01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:05.880
like the stuff they sent out for
review is not something we would consider for

1608
01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:10.199
review, right because it's like it's
a debug build that doesn't connect to the

1609
01:36:10.199 --> 01:36:13.840
retail servers and all other stuff.
Like you want to know with the nature

1610
01:36:13.880 --> 01:36:15.680
of that kind of invasion gameplay and
stuff like that, you want to know

1611
01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:19.439
how that is for real. So
the idea like playing some pre released build

1612
01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:23.840
for review seems preposterous, like blood
Board, So I think they did have

1613
01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:28.479
some kind of sandbox provisions for like
sort of recreating that environment. But you're,

1614
01:36:28.760 --> 01:36:30.920
like you said, like that there's
not a real player base out there

1615
01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:32.520
right now, right Like blood Board
was the same problem, Like there was

1616
01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:36.600
a patch that enabled all the online
stuff like three four days before it came

1617
01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:40.920
out or something like. You're you
know, that's not the actual experience,

1618
01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:44.359
even though it is largely a single
player game. You still want to know

1619
01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:47.640
there are profound There are profound They
might seem as significant to an outsider,

1620
01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:49.880
but they are pretty profound elements of
the game. You know, even the

1621
01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:54.880
messaging system and stuff is pretty crucial
unless it's in the wild to like real

1622
01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:57.199
people, right and you know,
the actual public, then you'll you'll never

1623
01:36:57.279 --> 01:36:59.720
know, so yeah, yeah,
and then you're seeing more and more,

1624
01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:01.039
you know, outlets are holding off
on our views, you know, like

1625
01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:03.319
the embargo will lift and it's like, oh, you know, here's the

1626
01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:06.840
status of our yea and some publishers
with depending on games, like they're holding

1627
01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:10.439
people out of the game until launch
day like that. That's how the Division

1628
01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:14.399
was for Better for Wars and and
the Division is largely a single player game,

1629
01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:18.439
which is actually kind of fucking insane
that it is so server based because

1630
01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:20.640
it's it's a you know, it's
it's a co op game. It's not

1631
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:28.119
some big mmo. I spent ten
minutes the other day over the weekend trying

1632
01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:30.640
to match make into a hard version
of one of the story missions. Really

1633
01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:34.800
nobody huh, nothing on what platform. P four like just gave up.

1634
01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:38.119
Huh. Like it was like,
well, but it might just be the

1635
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:40.439
people who are just playing the dailies. Well, that's the thing. I

1636
01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:42.439
think. I haven't had a lot
of time to play. It's right behind

1637
01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:45.159
the leveling curve. Everybody's ahead of
me or whatever pace. It turned out

1638
01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:48.960
most people I know actually ended up
playing on PC. Yeah, which this

1639
01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:51.520
was a mistake on my part.
Yeah, I mean I would, yes,

1640
01:37:51.680 --> 01:37:55.640
if if they had not sent if
Basically, if if I would have

1641
01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:59.960
had a choice, I would have
definitely played on the PC. But I've

1642
01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:01.479
made snaps four copy and those servers
were alive, and I was like,

1643
01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:04.720
okay, let's get I made that
determination looking at like your friends list and

1644
01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:06.600
then my friends list on launch day
and it was like, oh, there

1645
01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:09.479
were six or eight people playing it
right. I was like, oh,

1646
01:38:09.560 --> 01:38:11.560
this must be where everybody's going to
play it. And then it turns out

1647
01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:14.840
I can't find anybody to play it
with, Like everybody I know is still

1648
01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:16.560
playing it on the PC. Yeah, actively, And then yes, like

1649
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:19.479
I'm at a point now where like
I would love to get some level thirty

1650
01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:24.039
friends together and do like Dark Zone
stuff in the division, but everyone played

1651
01:38:24.119 --> 01:38:27.520
on PC. Yeah, so I
could go make some new friends, but

1652
01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:31.720
I'm even less likely to do that
at this point. Sure, anyway,

1653
01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:39.239
it's a weird situation with Dark Souls, but yeah, it sounds like maybe

1654
01:38:39.239 --> 01:38:42.720
you're not missing as much as you
think by not having it here. Yet

1655
01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:45.159
that sounds like a mess, because
that sounds like a fucking mess, doesn't

1656
01:38:45.199 --> 01:38:47.159
say, well, like every aspect
of it, of like the international version

1657
01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:50.359
being downloadable at all, to like
if people are buying the game without on

1658
01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:54.159
like review that version and say,
hey, it's not online at all.

1659
01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:57.920
This is broken. Congratulations Namco.
You know, like like what is that?

1660
01:38:58.319 --> 01:39:01.520
Yeah, yuck, It's it's a
weird situation, but you know,

1661
01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:05.720
there's there's no reason to believe it's
not going to be what it is purporting

1662
01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:09.319
to be. Sure the twelfth in
April, Yeah, I mean it's it

1663
01:39:09.399 --> 01:39:14.039
seems like that's the like the jet
I get the impression that The Dark Souls

1664
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:16.319
is maybe not at its biggest in
Japan anyway, Right, it's it is

1665
01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:19.840
that international audience that made it.
I think that's right, so big to

1666
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:24.800
begin with. Yeah, I think
you might be right. I recommend so

1667
01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:29.199
congratulations on participating in the Dark Souls
three bad tests in Japan. Sure.

1668
01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:33.119
Uh. If you're dying to play
Dark Souls three, I recommend go getting

1669
01:39:33.239 --> 01:39:39.560
going and getting Saltan Sanctuary because that
is a Yeah, it's a fantastic stand

1670
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:42.600
in for that style of gameplay.
If you want to keep yourself busy should

1671
01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:45.880
play that game instead. It seems
neat we're not instead, But until right

1672
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.560
I don't. I don't know how
much more Saltan Sanctuary I will play.

1673
01:39:47.720 --> 01:39:51.359
I keep coming back to it.
It's really good. Uh, it seems

1674
01:39:51.399 --> 01:39:54.600
it seems really cool, you know. I mean, if you know it's

1675
01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:57.479
it is that kind of game in
two D. But if you're trying to

1676
01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:01.800
scratch that itch until Dark Souls three
comes out anyway, Uh, that's pretty

1677
01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:08.640
much it for like big old game
industry news. But did you watch this

1678
01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:12.960
guy writing Flappy Bird in the Super
Mario World. I heard about it.

1679
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:18.159
Yeah, yeah, into actual Mario
World Mario injection a cartridge and an actual

1680
01:40:18.359 --> 01:40:24.800
legit Mario World cartridge running it a
real Supernintendo really yeah, because did you

1681
01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:28.840
see the people that, like during
the last speed Run thing that they made

1682
01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:31.880
a Mario Maker style level editor in
Super Mario World that ran on real hardware

1683
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:36.760
without modifying the cartridge on an original
SMS. Yeah what Yeah, No,

1684
01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:41.159
I have not seen that this guy. So they've been you know, last

1685
01:40:41.239 --> 01:40:44.760
year they made a pawn game that
ran in Super Mario World. Yeah.

1686
01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:49.760
Uh, this mother stuff like the
cartridge or the SMS neither neither. You're

1687
01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:56.239
they are. It's hard to explain
advanced code. It's hard to explain what

1688
01:40:56.359 --> 01:41:00.439
are they writing the code into.
It's the superimender, those controller ports memory.

1689
01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:02.359
Yeah, they're going through just controller
inputs into memory. They are,

1690
01:41:02.439 --> 01:41:10.000
but it's controller inputs at like thousands
per second. Yeah. So here's as

1691
01:41:10.039 --> 01:41:14.319
I understand it. Hopefully I have
the details straight. Uh, people found

1692
01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:18.520
an exploited Mario World that allows you
to write uh, right memory addresses right,

1693
01:41:18.600 --> 01:41:23.680
like right stuff into the Superness's memory. And what they're writing in there

1694
01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:29.800
are low level, like machine level
processor instructions for like this processor in the

1695
01:41:29.840 --> 01:41:35.439
super using what like input method like
a Superintendo control. Yeah essentially, yes,

1696
01:41:35.560 --> 01:41:40.760
but they're using not real controllers,
Okay, they're using using some Arduino

1697
01:41:40.880 --> 01:41:44.239
thing that is hooked up to the
controller ports. Then does this precise so

1698
01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:47.840
there's not like the second level of
Mario World where you fucking get on the

1699
01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:50.039
Yoshi and jump around and like spit
out stuff and pick it back up,

1700
01:41:50.039 --> 01:41:54.800
and it's all very framed specific to
manipulate the game memories stuff. Yes,

1701
01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:59.920
yes, like that, to manipulate
the game into a state where it overflows

1702
01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:03.119
more or less and starts accepting code
from RAMA instead of the normal protos.

1703
01:42:03.359 --> 01:42:05.079
And so what they put in,
like I said, what they put in

1704
01:42:05.199 --> 01:42:12.199
ram our instructions that the hardware the
superds can can execute at a very low

1705
01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:15.079
level. It's like assembly code.
It's not unlike the sorts of exploits that

1706
01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:17.239
are used to like, you know, ho, we installed custom firmware on

1707
01:42:17.319 --> 01:42:20.159
a PSP because we found this exploit, or hey, here's how we jail

1708
01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:24.199
break an iPhone because we found one. You know, hey, you load

1709
01:42:24.239 --> 01:42:26.720
the web browser up and go to
this web page. We've coded something that

1710
01:42:26.880 --> 01:42:30.399
causes it to overflow in just such
a way that gives us an opening to

1711
01:42:30.520 --> 01:42:33.079
fill it full of fucking dark shit. So the guy who did this fair

1712
01:42:33.279 --> 01:42:38.159
flap, yes, the darkest.
So the guy who did this did not

1713
01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:41.039
write the code for the flap,
so it's not even actual Flappy Bird.

1714
01:42:41.079 --> 01:42:44.840
It uses Mario World assets, so
it's it's it's little Mario doing the swimming

1715
01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:48.039
animation with the pipes being the obstacles. I was hoping it would be one

1716
01:42:48.039 --> 01:42:50.800
of those cool dolphins with goggles.
That would have been pretty good too,

1717
01:42:51.159 --> 01:42:56.119
but sadly they went with the Mario
spright. My understanding I might be wrong,

1718
01:42:56.520 --> 01:43:00.279
is that this guy did not use
like an RD we know or thing.

1719
01:43:00.319 --> 01:43:02.359
He actually did it with the controller
because it took him because so it

1720
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:05.279
took him like over an hour to
put all the inputs in and then like

1721
01:43:05.279 --> 01:43:10.079
there's video out there. I watched
the stream lives. There's video out there.

1722
01:43:10.119 --> 01:43:13.880
You can look up where he's like
he basically hits the last button that

1723
01:43:13.960 --> 01:43:16.199
it's like you could just like see
the relief on his He's like super relieved

1724
01:43:16.279 --> 01:43:18.960
that it actually worked. Yeah,
because even made one mistake, probably be

1725
01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:23.800
fucked. Like the source code was
only three hundred and thirty one bites for

1726
01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:29.159
this game, so I don't know. M So, like do you access

1727
01:43:29.199 --> 01:43:30.239
it by like do you have to
go to a star road and go to

1728
01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:36.760
tubular and then some glitches out,
you know, like yeah, glitches out

1729
01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:39.920
and then so there's a moment where
everything kind of when you watch some of

1730
01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:42.359
the stuff they've done for the speed
Run stuff with a tool Assistant ship,

1731
01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:45.199
when they open the hole, they
show on screen the controller inputs that are

1732
01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:48.840
being flashed too through to the thing
in a lot of cases, and you

1733
01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:51.840
just start to see all of a
sudden just the controllers just start lighting up

1734
01:43:51.840 --> 01:43:57.239
all over the place as it's just
it's rapidly inputting code that then gets executed

1735
01:43:57.239 --> 01:43:59.640
and everything kind of flips out.
And do you have a jail break an

1736
01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:00.760
iPhone anything like that? Oh no, all right, Well you just get

1737
01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:04.720
to a point where it's like it
just suddenly suddenly you're looking at a Linux

1738
01:44:04.800 --> 01:44:09.319
fucking bootscreen scrolling across your phone and
you're like worried in you know. It's

1739
01:44:09.399 --> 01:44:13.439
basically like that moment with Super Mario
World. Yeah, it's just it's just

1740
01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:16.159
a goofy little historical novelty that this
is still possible or that people figure this

1741
01:44:16.239 --> 01:44:18.600
out. But it's so I mean, it's technically could have been done in

1742
01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:21.159
like ninety two if somebody had figured
out how to do it. Yeah,

1743
01:44:21.199 --> 01:44:27.680
totally. But it's one of the
things that but only through game preservation style

1744
01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:30.199
efforts of like thoroughly dissecting these games. It's like the half a button press

1745
01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:35.760
thing for for Mario sixty four,
where there's like figuring out insane low level

1746
01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:39.760
things about the very nature of the
game that they can then exploit to do

1747
01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:44.000
weird things. Uh, it's pretty
awesome. Yeah, that's that's cool.

1748
01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:46.640
It's pretty cool. That video two
is incredible. Yes, gonna watch that.

1749
01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:53.319
Yeah, the Mario sixty four half
press, I've changed my mind.

1750
01:44:53.359 --> 01:44:57.319
The internet is cool again. The
half press is real, The half press

1751
01:44:57.399 --> 01:45:00.239
does exist. Everything's gonna be okay. You can push a button half a

1752
01:45:00.319 --> 01:45:05.680
time. Yes, it is physically
possible and even recommended. All right,

1753
01:45:05.760 --> 01:45:09.199
let's take the sucker home with some
emails. What do you say? All

1754
01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:14.399
right? Sure, BombCast at giant
bomb dot com. Emails, emails,

1755
01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:18.239
But those feels like it's full of
sawdust? Is that an improvement? I

1756
01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:23.159
don't know anymore. Got us smells
good? Yeah, I don't. It's

1757
01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:28.640
hard to breathe through though. Damn. First email comes in mysteriously from Coma

1758
01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:31.560
one three eight. It says your
VR coverage made me feel sick. Frowny

1759
01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:34.840
face. What do you have to
say in response? I heard I did

1760
01:45:34.880 --> 01:45:38.359
a lot of head bobbing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you were kind

1761
01:45:38.359 --> 01:45:40.600
of all over the place. It's
it's hard because, you know, and

1762
01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:44.560
when you're wearing the headset, your
eyes move around, so that movement doesn't

1763
01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:48.720
seem nearly as harsh as it does
when you're just viewing the head tilt stuff

1764
01:45:50.560 --> 01:45:56.119
Outside of VR So that's one of
those things that I wonder if they,

1765
01:45:56.399 --> 01:45:59.680
when they finally get to a point
where they're including eye tracking as part of

1766
01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:03.600
the head sets, if they then
follow the eye and then put that at

1767
01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:08.760
the center of the exposed kind of
external image. I hadn't kind of smooth

1768
01:46:08.800 --> 01:46:11.680
things out. Yeah, I wonder. I had not at all thought about

1769
01:46:11.720 --> 01:46:14.279
eye tracking until you mentioned during the
stream yesterday. But yeah, that does

1770
01:46:14.319 --> 01:46:16.279
seem like like an obvious at least
for them to go. They can also

1771
01:46:17.039 --> 01:46:21.239
do like level of detail stuff based
off of where your eyes looking, Yeah,

1772
01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:25.720
kind of you can you can totally
dous our focus as well. Yeah

1773
01:46:26.560 --> 01:46:29.760
wow, yeah, that's that sounds
awesome. I think. Also, we

1774
01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:32.319
were excited about looking at all the
VR stuff, so our heads are probably

1775
01:46:32.319 --> 01:46:34.800
like, oh yeah, yeah,
I was just kind of checking everything out.

1776
01:46:34.920 --> 01:46:38.560
Yeah, the VR Karts music was
pretty catchy, so I kept my

1777
01:46:38.640 --> 01:46:42.640
head. Is that a good uh
you know what for a little gimmicky thing,

1778
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:45.960
like it makes me want to play
Mario Kart and VR. I don't

1779
01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:48.880
know if that's going to be happening, but it was a little card game.

1780
01:46:49.880 --> 01:46:54.239
I don't know about that, at
least not officially. Yeah, wait,

1781
01:46:54.279 --> 01:46:56.800
I do know about that. I'm
just not gonna say what I think.

1782
01:46:58.039 --> 01:47:00.680
Uh, there's an email from Darren. We were actually kind of talking

1783
01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:05.279
about this recently, as in like
thirty minutes ago. Watching the last Mario

1784
01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:10.520
Maker stream and the recent X rumors
got me thinking. Between Galaxy and Mario

1785
01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:14.119
Maker taking both two D and three
games in the traditional style as far as

1786
01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:17.279
they can go mechanically, would it
even be possible to release a Mario game

1787
01:47:17.359 --> 01:47:20.840
in twenty seventeen? What would they
need to do to get you excited to

1788
01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:27.039
play another traditional quote authored Mario game. Just just give me another three D

1789
01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:30.079
Mario game. That's all I need. I mean, you know that's your

1790
01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:32.359
opinion that you're welcome to it,
But I don't know. Man, give

1791
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:36.000
me another two D Mario game in
an all new style and then build the

1792
01:47:36.079 --> 01:47:43.560
level editor tools right into it new
graphical style. Yes, wipe away all

1793
01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:46.039
of their three D bullshit with new
Super Mario Brothers. Start over, new

1794
01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:56.840
new Super Mario Brothers, extreme a
Mario Cross for the Nintendo Cross. How

1795
01:47:56.840 --> 01:48:00.159
about the Yoshi's Island art style that
was very different? No, I a

1796
01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:01.640
good art style to look like Wait, okay, I got I got a

1797
01:48:01.680 --> 01:48:03.760
problem that art style. Yeah,
okay, I know you don't like a

1798
01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:10.319
game. Yeah, I think it
looks like fucking shot. No, no,

1799
01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:14.039
it looks so good, giant like
Mario, just like all the characters

1800
01:48:14.079 --> 01:48:16.239
look like fucking trap. The bosses
that warp and get big when Camick sprinkles

1801
01:48:16.279 --> 01:48:19.279
on it. It looks bade father
playing far enough in to even see a

1802
01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:21.880
boss in that game. Sake did
that guy and tell his pants fall off?

1803
01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:25.159
I'll beat you in the middle.
I think the art style is Finally,

1804
01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:27.359
I just don't thank you still like
the game. I think the game

1805
01:48:27.399 --> 01:48:31.880
and the art style are both delightful. Yarn, that's good too, been

1806
01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:38.960
done, Yeah twice, it's two
different things. Well, so, I

1807
01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:41.279
mean this guy's whole premise is like, hey, two D and three D

1808
01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:45.800
Mario both like pretty well established at
this point. Yeah, totally, Like

1809
01:48:45.439 --> 01:48:48.199
I can't. I mean, whatever, we're not we're not, we're not

1810
01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:54.600
world famous game designers. But but
oh wow, yeah, but like what

1811
01:48:54.640 --> 01:48:57.159
if Mario could stop time? I
don't know what, I'm just asking questions

1812
01:48:57.199 --> 01:49:00.920
over here. What if he had
a backpack with like a vacuum at it,

1813
01:49:00.399 --> 01:49:03.319
borrow or water? I have the
answer to that question. Yeah,

1814
01:49:03.680 --> 01:49:09.600
nah, Okay, I'm saying if
he was a time sweeper of some sort.

1815
01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:13.880
Okay, now I'm back in.
Okay, I don't know. I

1816
01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:15.640
don't have a good answer for this
guy's question. I do kind of agree

1817
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:19.319
that, like if they just made
another two D Mario or another three D

1818
01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:23.119
Mario, it's kind of I mean, yeah, I'm with you, Yes,

1819
01:49:23.279 --> 01:49:26.039
I don't want actually on the three
D Mario front, I don't want

1820
01:49:26.039 --> 01:49:29.720
another two D Mario in the like
a new lineage type stuff because like by

1821
01:49:29.760 --> 01:49:30.840
the time, like New Super Mario
Brothers two, it's like, okay,

1822
01:49:31.680 --> 01:49:35.039
that is that is fucking played out. Yeah, those games were cool at

1823
01:49:35.079 --> 01:49:38.319
the time and all that stuff.
I think the first one was really good,

1824
01:49:38.359 --> 01:49:40.960
and maybe that first we won with
the novelty of the four players stuff

1825
01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:44.560
is cool. But man, I
know, a full scale like a follow

1826
01:49:44.680 --> 01:49:47.720
up to sixty four Sunshine Galaxy Galaxy
two, the next one in that lineup,

1827
01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:51.000
what is that though? Another just
one of those, Just give me

1828
01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:55.880
one of those. They're they're all
great, and three D World was great

1829
01:49:55.920 --> 01:49:58.720
too, but I want like a
single player they made they made those,

1830
01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:01.000
I mean, Galaxy put it on
a sphere, right, you could continue

1831
01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:03.840
doing it could come up with the
gibing because it was on a sick Trapezo

1832
01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:08.319
would but I feel like it's a
lot like with Zelda, Like it's diminishing

1833
01:50:08.399 --> 01:50:13.439
returns every time another Mario sixty fourth
style games. I think may Mario Galaxy

1834
01:50:13.479 --> 01:50:16.560
two is the best three D Mario, Like the last one was the best,

1835
01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:18.960
but let's get doing it. But
again, when you only when you

1836
01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:24.359
only iterate with small increments, like
it's inherently less impressive every time, but

1837
01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:28.239
still super duper impressive. Like Mario
Galaxy two is one of the best games

1838
01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:30.520
I've ever played, Give me another
one of those. I would say Galaxy

1839
01:50:30.560 --> 01:50:34.239
two is like a very good game, like a very great game, but

1840
01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:38.600
it's not like impressive in the way
that I think you're saying. Yeah,

1841
01:50:38.680 --> 01:50:41.680
Like the quality of it is very
quality of it is very high. Yeah,

1842
01:50:41.840 --> 01:50:44.439
Like it's it's another one of those
games. It might be like there's

1843
01:50:44.600 --> 01:50:47.479
kind of like I'm sure it's a
it's a great showcase on like on an

1844
01:50:47.560 --> 01:50:53.840
individual level for like interesting mechanics and
level design, but it's still just another

1845
01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:56.960
it is a very well made three
D Mario game, Yeah, which is

1846
01:50:57.319 --> 01:50:59.920
more than enough for me. Okay, then then that's fine. Maybe I

1847
01:51:00.239 --> 01:51:02.560
maybe I'm a love on this,
but they kept making awesome three D Mario

1848
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:05.239
games until I died. I would
love the ship out of everyone. I

1849
01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:10.199
don't know that I would play another
three D Mario game, regardless quality.

1850
01:51:10.319 --> 01:51:13.840
Yeah, if it, if it
was in that exact blueprint, like like

1851
01:51:13.920 --> 01:51:16.079
they get Stars have World, it
has to be like a more dramatic shift

1852
01:51:16.680 --> 01:51:18.960
to get me back with you did
were you big on three D World?

1853
01:51:19.079 --> 01:51:23.039
Yeah? That three World is It's
three D World is a is a really

1854
01:51:23.199 --> 01:51:27.319
good fusion of the two styles.
Like it's that's the perfect like the blend

1855
01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:29.359
of of the two D and three
D Mario games. See, I thought

1856
01:51:29.359 --> 01:51:31.520
that was a great game. But
I am sad that we have not had

1857
01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:36.079
a But yeah, I see this
attitude a lot that like that didn't count

1858
01:51:36.199 --> 01:51:40.279
as the big Mario game for this
console. That was its own kind of

1859
01:51:40.279 --> 01:51:43.600
weird thing. It was awesome,
which loved it, which is just baffling

1860
01:51:43.640 --> 01:51:46.079
to me because it's like a it's
an exceptional Mario game and you know,

1861
01:51:47.159 --> 01:51:50.520
yeah it does some some neat news. Yeah yeah like that, Like but

1862
01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:54.239
I still see people saying kind of
what you're saying that like it's like it

1863
01:51:54.359 --> 01:51:57.279
never got their thing that it's not
real. See it as kind of like

1864
01:51:57.359 --> 01:51:59.920
I think as much as I like
three D Land and three D World,

1865
01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:03.680
I want the big open like you
know, the there were four of them,

1866
01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:08.000
sixty four Sunshine and the two galaxies. There are four. I think

1867
01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:11.079
I think it's crazy that you include
Sunshine in that list because of how different

1868
01:52:11.079 --> 01:52:13.760
it is to the other three games
because he has a jet pack because it's

1869
01:52:13.800 --> 01:52:17.079
bullshit, uh and he has a
jet pack. Well whatever, it's like

1870
01:52:17.159 --> 01:52:20.960
that stuff such poorly implemented, like
it's it's like, yeah, I don't

1871
01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:24.520
know, I feel like that game
is different enough to where yeah, because

1872
01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:27.600
of one item, Like I mean, it's a it is the item.

1873
01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:31.520
It is the reason game, except
for in those super sweet things where they

1874
01:52:31.600 --> 01:52:34.319
take it away, where Shadow Mario
takes it away and then you have the

1875
01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:38.119
awesome platforming section. What a shame
that they like. Even when they take

1876
01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:40.680
it away and try to make it
like a little bit more like the classic

1877
01:52:41.119 --> 01:52:43.720
Mario game that came before it,
they fucked that up too. The best

1878
01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:46.119
parts of the game. Oh,
you're fucking so wrong, Jesus Christ.

1879
01:52:48.239 --> 01:52:53.640
Yeah, Like Sunshine doesn't belong in
that lineage to me. One you look

1880
01:52:53.680 --> 01:52:55.720
at and go like, oh,
man, I wish they would just just

1881
01:52:55.880 --> 01:53:00.880
have made like more Mario sixty four, because this thing's fucked. It is

1882
01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:06.239
more Mario sixty four on a fun
island. No man introducing garbage, this

1883
01:53:06.359 --> 01:53:12.039
garbage literally fucking cleaning up fucking garbage. But you know what, you can't

1884
01:53:12.079 --> 01:53:15.560
clean up the real garbage because the
real garbage is burned onto the disc.

1885
01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:19.319
I can't. I can't get in
the middle of your weird game grudge matches.

1886
01:53:19.760 --> 01:53:24.720
But it's you know, the stellar
game. Mario Sunshine is is not

1887
01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:30.920
a great game, and uh does
not belong in the same sentence as Mario

1888
01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:34.600
sixty four. They're a galaxy.
They're all elite three D platforms, all

1889
01:53:34.640 --> 01:53:40.720
four of those games. It's among
the best ever made, Like Mario Sunshine

1890
01:53:40.720 --> 01:53:43.239
feels like it belongs like, oh, put it over with Luke with Luigi's

1891
01:53:43.239 --> 01:53:47.560
mansion, weird things we did with
Mario characters. Luigi's Mansion is charming,

1892
01:53:48.119 --> 01:53:51.520
but it's not a great You're right, Mario Sunshine has no charm. But

1893
01:53:51.800 --> 01:53:57.000
like Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine is
not a great game. To wrap this

1894
01:53:57.079 --> 01:53:59.000
all the way, back around to
like the beginning of the podcast, I

1895
01:53:59.039 --> 01:54:01.920
would almost say Luigi Mansioned is an
adventure game. Yeah, maybe that's why

1896
01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:05.800
I didn't really like playing Luigi's Mass
that much. It's kind of one take

1897
01:54:05.880 --> 01:54:11.680
on what that genre is. I
guess Mario with portals, Mario what with

1898
01:54:11.800 --> 01:54:15.039
portals? Like that would be cool
and they would do some amazing stuff with

1899
01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:16.479
it. But again, that's just
like one more gimmick to layer into what

1900
01:54:16.600 --> 01:54:21.399
is it already a very familiar framework
work somewhere. You're like, man,

1901
01:54:21.439 --> 01:54:26.239
if someone's made a really great three
D platform or like what, I don't

1902
01:54:26.239 --> 01:54:28.640
know, Man, let's go there
the best three we could be out there,

1903
01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:30.520
fired up crock, go'll play Lucky's
Tale. Man. They're like,

1904
01:54:30.560 --> 01:54:33.159
let's see how it was pretty cool
to see how UK Lately does when it

1905
01:54:33.199 --> 01:54:36.479
comes out. Yeah, Lucky's Tale, I think is maybe the best game

1906
01:54:36.520 --> 01:54:39.760
I played on that so far.
I don't play more of it, but

1907
01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:44.840
uh, you know what, I'm
gonna skip the email had after that and

1908
01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:47.760
go straight to another Nintendo email.
Okay, it's about Yoshi. It's from

1909
01:54:47.800 --> 01:54:54.000
go On. As everyone knows,
Yoshi wears shoes. When Yoshi hatches from

1910
01:54:54.039 --> 01:54:58.159
his egg though he's already wearing shoes. Yeah, he's not wearing shoes.

1911
01:54:58.439 --> 01:55:00.479
He just has shoes. So I
guess my question like shoes, Yeah,

1912
01:55:00.520 --> 01:55:03.239
so I guess my question is what
the fuck is going on with Yoshi's feet?

1913
01:55:03.600 --> 01:55:08.039
Do the shoes develop inside the egg
with him? Is someone putting shoes

1914
01:55:08.119 --> 01:55:11.680
inside the egg before it hatches?
If you pull off the shoes, does

1915
01:55:11.720 --> 01:55:14.880
he have huboid feet with toes?
Those are just will you literally be ripping

1916
01:55:14.920 --> 01:55:16.039
off a part of it? Those
are just his feet. I can't stop

1917
01:55:16.239 --> 01:55:19.079
just about this. Wait, since
I know you're all huge Yoshi fans,

1918
01:55:19.119 --> 01:55:23.920
I thought you would develop as a
reaction to you know, like the spiky

1919
01:55:24.119 --> 01:55:27.479
like it's just an evolutionary change.
It's proof of evolution. Evolved. Shoes

1920
01:55:27.560 --> 01:55:31.319
on humans have not evolved. And
that's why Yoshi can fucking jump on spikes.

1921
01:55:31.319 --> 01:55:35.399
Another weird ship that's Mario's can't.
But baby Yoshi's baby yoshees do not

1922
01:55:35.720 --> 01:55:41.159
have shoes. They don't have legs
either, right, different, that's just

1923
01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:44.960
from a different point in the timeline. A little evolved or baby Yoshi's a

1924
01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:47.119
little amorphous. Yeah, you got
to eat five things and then they turn

1925
01:55:47.199 --> 01:55:51.039
into a full sized Yoshi. It's
part of puberty. It's their their feet

1926
01:55:51.119 --> 01:55:56.199
just kind of change into this weird
things they laces. No, they're just

1927
01:55:56.239 --> 01:55:59.359
a little like brown things. Okay, they should put that in Mario make

1928
01:55:59.399 --> 01:56:01.960
I don't know, yo babies.
Art is garbage. All art is garbage.

1929
01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:04.159
All of it changes on a whim
because no one thinks it through.

1930
01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:09.399
Everything sucks. There's if you want
the actual fucking dark answer, like there

1931
01:56:09.439 --> 01:56:13.920
you go. No one thinks the
consistency is not as interesting as people sometimes

1932
01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:16.079
make it out. To me,
there's a very special but tumultuous time and

1933
01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:20.880
every yo Yoshi's life when their body
starts to change. Wait, that's a

1934
01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:25.640
weird thing though, because like imagine
the first level of Mario World. Well,

1935
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:30.079
I guess one two is when you
first get Yoshi. Egg comes up

1936
01:56:30.319 --> 01:56:31.960
and then the full sized Yoshi comes
out of the egg. Straight out of

1937
01:56:31.960 --> 01:56:35.600
the egg. But we've fully baby
Yoshies that you have to pay. Yoshes

1938
01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:40.399
are probably a different species that then
when when you feed them, they evolve,

1939
01:56:41.279 --> 01:56:45.239
which is a Yoshi's are pokemon,
is what I'm saying, or maybe

1940
01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:47.159
which is why it's so expendable,
because you're just having them fight for you,

1941
01:56:47.920 --> 01:56:51.079
or maybe it's a caterpillar butterfly thing
to where like at a certain point

1942
01:56:51.279 --> 01:56:57.960
more life they go into ways of
puberty. Yeah, that's the egg happens.

1943
01:56:58.479 --> 01:57:01.159
Okay, she was developed. All
right, that's Cannon. You know,

1944
01:57:01.279 --> 01:57:04.279
no prize for you, You've notne
but what one for Dan? Dan

1945
01:57:04.399 --> 01:57:11.439
gets no prize? I like that? All right, mis resolved. Uh,

1946
01:57:12.439 --> 01:57:18.119
let's see another one with no name
on it. Radical Derringer is the

1947
01:57:18.199 --> 01:57:25.000
name in the field in the from
field rad for short. Well, that's

1948
01:57:25.039 --> 01:57:30.199
appropriate because this email is about sun
Soft back in the day. They developed

1949
01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:32.880
some of my favorite games on the
INDs. In my mind, the Blastermaster,

1950
01:57:33.039 --> 01:57:38.039
Gimmick Euphoria, and even those weird
ass Batman games are up there with

1951
01:57:38.119 --> 01:57:41.159
something some of the heaviest. Tip
Dude, Batman for the NS is pretty

1952
01:57:41.199 --> 01:57:45.920
good. That's that's a really hard
one, right Batan. They also sound

1953
01:57:45.960 --> 01:57:48.560
soft. I believe that. Yeah
he was purple and yeah, yeah,

1954
01:57:48.880 --> 01:57:53.000
I enjoyed that game quite a bit. Second that game, he says.

1955
01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:56.159
Those are some of the heaviest hitters
from the era. However, by the

1956
01:57:56.199 --> 01:57:59.279
time that the Genesis and SNST came
around, their quality had dipped. Immensely,

1957
01:57:59.359 --> 01:58:02.199
and they ended up handling everything along
with restructuring in nineteen ninety five.

1958
01:58:03.239 --> 01:58:06.880
Waku Waku seven and Galaxy Fight came
out after this, and we're neat,

1959
01:58:08.279 --> 01:58:11.880
but they were the last things of
note that Sunsoft put out. I know

1960
01:58:12.039 --> 01:58:15.439
the director of Gimmick, Tomomi Saka, left Sunsoft to form Electric Cheap Company

1961
01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:20.039
Limited after finishing Gimmick in nineteen ninety
two. I can't find any solid or

1962
01:58:20.079 --> 01:58:25.479
complete information in English about what that
company has done since and who left Sunsoft

1963
01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:28.399
to work there. Yeah, I
don't know. Is this exodus the reason

1964
01:58:28.560 --> 01:58:31.479
for the precipitous drop in the quality
of their games? Information from this era

1965
01:58:31.680 --> 01:58:34.520
is so hard to come by.
I was curious if you'd heard anything.

1966
01:58:34.720 --> 01:58:40.600
No, I don't actually know anything
about this situation period. Yeah, so

1967
01:58:40.800 --> 01:58:42.920
it's yeah, I mean, Sunsoft
kind of became a different thing, but

1968
01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:45.800
you know, that's one of the
things where the Japanese game market became a

1969
01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:49.560
very different thing at some point here. But not in the nineties really,

1970
01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:51.560
right, No, I guess not, like it was more in the two

1971
01:58:51.640 --> 01:58:57.359
thousands where you had this situation where, like you know, Sunsoft, if

1972
01:58:57.399 --> 01:59:00.239
you go to Sunsoft games dot Com
now, it. Really, it's just

1973
01:59:00.319 --> 01:59:03.960
like it's ads for we Virtual Console
for we Foia or the Acrobat one and

1974
01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:06.800
two. So there's still somebody there. Master there was, at least up

1975
01:59:06.800 --> 01:59:09.640
to a few years ago, there
was somebody there with the lights on.

1976
01:59:09.920 --> 01:59:12.359
But this this could be a holding
company at this point, the same way

1977
01:59:12.399 --> 01:59:15.560
like Colico was. It's like they
own the brand and they technically own all

1978
01:59:15.600 --> 01:59:18.359
these ips, put them physically in
the old office or something, but like

1979
01:59:18.439 --> 01:59:23.960
somebody is doing something with those properties. There's there's a straight up blaster bastard

1980
01:59:24.039 --> 01:59:28.119
logo on this web page. Yeah, but yeah, you know, like

1981
01:59:28.319 --> 01:59:32.279
in two thousand and nine here Sunsoft
acquired the U the Nihon Tellanet Library,

1982
01:59:32.960 --> 01:59:40.159
which was another developer over there telling
it they did. Are they like thunder

1983
01:59:40.199 --> 01:59:44.560
Forced stuff? Anyway? You know, Vic Ireland is mentioned in this pros.

1984
01:59:44.840 --> 01:59:46.079
That's how you know it's legit guyin
works and stuff like that. I

1985
01:59:46.119 --> 01:59:51.119
think he assisted to bring some of
these games over. That Gremlins game was

1986
01:59:51.159 --> 01:59:56.039
pretty goods to the New Batch.
I don't think I played though, That's

1987
01:59:56.039 --> 01:59:58.640
all right, Wait, didn't they
made Chameleon Twist? Didn't you say you

1988
01:59:58.720 --> 02:00:00.960
hadn't seen Gribbles too? Oh,
I've seen Grimlins too many times, including

1989
02:00:01.000 --> 02:00:03.439
like three weeks. Maybe Jeff is
the one who hasn't seen Gribbins too.

1990
02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:06.079
I haven't seen it. It's a
fantastic film, I know. I know

1991
02:00:06.119 --> 02:00:09.840
we've talked about Grimblins too at some
point. It's the recent past but very

1992
02:00:10.159 --> 02:00:13.319
very good movie. Yeah, like
Sounds Off made some fucking great games,

1993
02:00:13.640 --> 02:00:15.239
lots of looning tune stuff. It
looks like I didn't know about that.

1994
02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:20.880
Yeah, like Platoon for any s
boy, like Blaster Maaster is fucked hard,

1995
02:00:21.000 --> 02:00:23.960
but it was. It was great. It was such a cool idea.

1996
02:00:24.239 --> 02:00:26.560
The in car, out of Car
a different game where you could get

1997
02:00:26.600 --> 02:00:28.840
out of the vehicle and run around
and then get back in the vehicle and

1998
02:00:28.920 --> 02:00:30.159
you were tiny and then yeah,
you know, you could be real big

1999
02:00:30.279 --> 02:00:34.359
too. But like then there was
the there was the the overhead sequences where

2000
02:00:34.359 --> 02:00:39.079
you were up close you. I
thought the overhead stuff was just kind of

2001
02:00:39.239 --> 02:00:42.479
like at the time, it was
like revolutionary and nuts. They were like,

2002
02:00:42.520 --> 02:00:45.439
man, this fucking badass side scroller
and then then I'm doing this like

2003
02:00:45.560 --> 02:00:47.760
Legend of Zelda type shit. But
like, in practice, I don't know

2004
02:00:47.880 --> 02:00:50.199
that I think that any of that
top down stuff is any good? Yeah,

2005
02:00:50.199 --> 02:00:53.600
it's it's and you did a lot
of the boss fights from that perspective

2006
02:00:53.640 --> 02:00:57.439
too. Also. I also like
the premise of what is it following your

2007
02:00:57.439 --> 02:01:02.600
pet to another dimension and finding the
fucking most rippingest badass vehicle ever. The

2008
02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:06.319
way the wheels come together with Ye, that thing is so fucking awesome.

2009
02:01:06.479 --> 02:01:11.239
Yeah, that fucking thing jumps.
It is a four wheel ATV with the

2010
02:01:11.279 --> 02:01:15.439
giant cannon on it that jumps.
What a great Yes. I was about

2011
02:01:15.439 --> 02:01:18.039
to say somebody should make any Blastermaster, but that would probably just end in

2012
02:01:18.079 --> 02:01:20.359
disappointment. They've made them. They
made them over the years where there was

2013
02:01:20.399 --> 02:01:24.359
like there's like a Blastermaster returns like
PS one or something like that. That

2014
02:01:24.479 --> 02:01:27.640
was kind of not great and I
think that's what it was called. Anyway.

2015
02:01:27.720 --> 02:01:32.560
Yes, they did attempt to revisit
Blastermaster with limited but some success.

2016
02:01:32.640 --> 02:01:35.119
If I remember right, like,
those games weren't terrible thing. It was

2017
02:01:35.159 --> 02:01:40.600
not a terrible game. Yeah,
it's not quite the original though. Uh.

2018
02:01:40.760 --> 02:01:44.359
Let's see a follow up email from
Jesse last week. All right,

2019
02:01:45.760 --> 02:01:48.279
last week, Jesse, that's what
they call Jesse. I'm the idiot who

2020
02:01:48.359 --> 02:01:53.880
thought or who said that KI was
developed by Double Helix can't really defend this.

2021
02:01:54.000 --> 02:01:57.760
I googled got double Helix instead of
Iron Galaxy and thought that the former

2022
02:01:57.880 --> 02:02:00.800
must be the thing what the tall
angry may and is in charge of.

2023
02:02:00.479 --> 02:02:06.920
Close enough, Yeah, it doesn't
seem angry. I just love that deck.

2024
02:02:08.079 --> 02:02:11.239
Yeah. Yeah, it's a great
description of Daily because he always seems

2025
02:02:11.319 --> 02:02:16.399
very joyous about being a Yeah can
be. There's a glee to his anger

2026
02:02:16.720 --> 02:02:18.800
every time. I seem like there's
gonna be the best night of our lives,

2027
02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:21.039
the best night of our lives.
But there's a fury behind it.

2028
02:02:23.039 --> 02:02:26.039
Dark. There is a dark undertone. There is a rage that drives that

2029
02:02:26.199 --> 02:02:29.680
quest. I believe I haven't seen
it. Maybe he's just happy when he's

2030
02:02:29.680 --> 02:02:35.159
around me. That's the vibe I'm
getting. Uh, let's see quite a

2031
02:02:35.199 --> 02:02:40.359
few of the emails that we have
or that I have selected here we have

2032
02:02:40.520 --> 02:02:43.720
covered previously in the show. I'll
read this one about street Fighter anyway.

2033
02:02:43.720 --> 02:02:48.000
It's from Colette Uh. As of
the twenty fifth of March, Capcom finally

2034
02:02:48.000 --> 02:02:51.439
announced details about the Street Fight or
five March update when it would drop what

2035
02:02:51.479 --> 02:02:55.479
it would contain, et cetera.
Something that caught my eye was the fact

2036
02:02:55.520 --> 02:02:58.560
that Zenny, the in game digital
currency, would not be included in the

2037
02:02:58.640 --> 02:03:00.720
update, as in his quote,
not ready to launch just yet. We

2038
02:03:01.039 --> 02:03:06.199
talked about that we did earlier.
And then she talks about Anny Youngman.

2039
02:03:08.640 --> 02:03:12.760
That's good stuff. She mentions in
here that you know that they're making Alex

2040
02:03:13.159 --> 02:03:18.600
free. Yep, until there's any
shop actually goes live. Yes, anyway,

2041
02:03:18.680 --> 02:03:23.760
her her her actual question. By
their wording, it could possibly emphasis

2042
02:03:23.840 --> 02:03:28.479
possibly be months before premium currency is
added to Street Fighter five. Is it

2043
02:03:28.600 --> 02:03:31.600
that difficult to incorporate in game currency
or is this just yet another blunder to

2044
02:03:31.760 --> 02:03:35.319
add to the list of Capcom's nightmarish
launch of the game. Yeah, this,

2045
02:03:35.479 --> 02:03:39.680
this seems like something that you think
it's maybe specifics. You think it's

2046
02:03:39.720 --> 02:03:43.840
a street Fighter issue, not in
in game digital currency issue. Probably,

2047
02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:51.359
I don't know. I don't know
that that's a that Yes, this is

2048
02:03:51.479 --> 02:03:57.439
ridiculous. Could you imagine the scenario
where Alex is just free for who knows

2049
02:03:57.479 --> 02:04:00.159
how long? I thought it would
be a matter of like days, I

2050
02:04:00.239 --> 02:04:01.880
mean like maybe next week, does
any shop will go in? Yeah,

2051
02:04:02.000 --> 02:04:05.880
maybe a week after or maybe never. You know. It's well, I

2052
02:04:05.920 --> 02:04:10.520
gotta you know, you gotta keep
making money on it somehow the way they're

2053
02:04:10.520 --> 02:04:14.680
describing it as an ongoing platform.
But you know, both of the platforms

2054
02:04:14.680 --> 02:04:18.479
they are selling this game on have
storefronts already. The idea that they needed

2055
02:04:18.600 --> 02:04:23.079
some kind of like custom because it
only makes sense for them to have that

2056
02:04:23.119 --> 02:04:28.239
storefront if they are linking accounts together
across platform So like your purchases display on

2057
02:04:28.359 --> 02:04:30.000
both PC and PS four, which
is not the case. Which is not

2058
02:04:30.119 --> 02:04:38.199
the case. So they could just
sell they they could just sell fight money

2059
02:04:38.239 --> 02:04:41.560
in the PS four store for dollars
and not have any of this Zenny ship

2060
02:04:42.079 --> 02:04:44.880
if they wanted to, or they
could just sell you the stuff you want.

2061
02:04:45.000 --> 02:04:46.640
You could just sell you Alex directly
for money, right, yes,

2062
02:04:48.000 --> 02:04:51.479
and and sidestep a lot of this
stuff. Like I don't understand, like,

2063
02:04:51.640 --> 02:04:54.920
like what the way that they have
constructed it. I don't see a

2064
02:04:54.960 --> 02:04:57.960
good reason for them to have Zenny
at all. Right, when they could

2065
02:04:58.000 --> 02:05:00.560
just be like, hey give us
ten dollars, We'll give you a million

2066
02:05:00.640 --> 02:05:02.880
fight money, uh, because it's
not like you lose fight money. That

2067
02:05:02.960 --> 02:05:05.960
was something they eventually got into,
like betting fight money or something like that.

2068
02:05:06.000 --> 02:05:10.159
Then that would be a different story. But h and you can't take

2069
02:05:10.199 --> 02:05:15.800
fight money back out right exactly.
So it's yeah, I wonder if they

2070
02:05:15.800 --> 02:05:17.520
will just eliminate Zenny at some point
and just say, like a fuck it,

2071
02:05:17.600 --> 02:05:20.000
go to the PS four store and
buy fight money there, or buy

2072
02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:24.239
all the costumes that way, and
we'll just sell it directly. I mean

2073
02:05:24.279 --> 02:05:27.399
at the same time, like Dan
and I are as we speak in raptured

2074
02:05:27.720 --> 02:05:30.960
by a game that has two types
of currency in one of which you buy

2075
02:05:30.039 --> 02:05:32.840
with real money and then can be
turned into the other type of currency,

2076
02:05:32.880 --> 02:05:35.159
which you can only get in game. Yeah, and I mean that's what

2077
02:05:35.279 --> 02:05:39.039
E Valkyrie has as well. Really, it's got you buy gold and you

2078
02:05:39.119 --> 02:05:42.039
can you can turn gold into silver. And then on top of that,

2079
02:05:42.159 --> 02:05:45.039
there are some high high end on
high end like they're cosmetic items whatever.

2080
02:05:45.840 --> 02:05:49.199
But some of the items at the
end of the structure are only for sale

2081
02:05:49.279 --> 02:05:55.199
in gold. Weren't you just have
to pay money? Will so? And

2082
02:05:55.279 --> 02:05:58.279
aren't you just renting some of that
stuff some of that stuff. Yeah,

2083
02:05:58.319 --> 02:06:01.119
but those things you pay silver for, which is the grindable earnable currency.

2084
02:06:01.600 --> 02:06:04.800
But then you can turn real money
into the grindable currency if you like.

2085
02:06:05.319 --> 02:06:09.039
So they hit you on every angle. Maybe that was Capcom's intent, was

2086
02:06:09.079 --> 02:06:13.239
to have every eventuality covered for that
sort of stuff things, so like,

2087
02:06:13.279 --> 02:06:15.920
hey, here's some stuff you can
earn, or you can get it easily

2088
02:06:16.199 --> 02:06:19.920
with fight with with with Zenny.
But maybe they can just say maybe you

2089
02:06:19.960 --> 02:06:24.319
can get it easily by going to
the PlayStation store or the Steam DLC a

2090
02:06:24.439 --> 02:06:30.119
section like I don't maybe they just
fucking who knows many Maybe this is a

2091
02:06:30.119 --> 02:06:32.960
whole over from the days of Microsoft
Points. But I always assume when a

2092
02:06:34.119 --> 02:06:40.000
when layers of currency abstraction are in
place there it's only there to disguise how

2093
02:06:40.079 --> 02:06:44.279
much money you're actually spending on stuff
or or not make like take basically remove

2094
02:06:44.319 --> 02:06:47.479
the sticker shock sticker shock, right. Maybe yeah, it's just like,

2095
02:06:47.560 --> 02:06:49.640
oh, well, I don't actually
see five dollars tag on this, so

2096
02:06:49.720 --> 02:06:53.880
I don't remember it. I'm spending
five dollars. It's just fake funny money.

2097
02:06:54.239 --> 02:06:57.600
Yeah, who knows? It's three
Fight five? That yes, who

2098
02:06:57.680 --> 02:07:00.479
knows the Street Fighter five story.
It's a weird game. My book coming

2099
02:07:00.520 --> 02:07:03.920
in twenty twenty six. I think
it'll get there eventually, but it's a

2100
02:07:04.000 --> 02:07:13.439
weird rocky road. Paul from Kate
Breton wrote in about All Dressed Chips CDP.

2101
02:07:14.560 --> 02:07:16.319
What's that Kate Breton? Paul,
Yeah, do you know where that

2102
02:07:16.439 --> 02:07:20.439
is? I don't either. Yeah, I would also guess Canada. It's

2103
02:07:20.439 --> 02:07:25.800
about all dressed chips. Hey,
he starts his yeah, as a Canadian,

2104
02:07:26.159 --> 02:07:29.479
all right, I can safely say
that all dressed chips are the Dynasty

2105
02:07:29.520 --> 02:07:32.800
Warriors of chips. Someone must be
buying them, not me. Okay,

2106
02:07:32.960 --> 02:07:36.399
they're okay, but they're not that
special. Don't buy all dressed chips.

2107
02:07:36.520 --> 02:07:40.720
This is where he loses me.
Buy Ketchup chips. Ketchup chips are the

2108
02:07:40.760 --> 02:07:44.439
best. Ketchup chips are quite good. Really, I've tried both of them

2109
02:07:44.560 --> 02:07:46.920
once from a mail bag, and
I remember thinking Ketchup chips weren't horrible,

2110
02:07:47.279 --> 02:07:51.479
but all dress was pretty good.
Say say that again, what the chips

2111
02:07:51.520 --> 02:07:58.239
were talking about? Oh I've heard
people say the ketchup ketchup chips. Yes,

2112
02:07:58.479 --> 02:08:01.520
okay, yeah, I know it's
what is it? It's cats up,

2113
02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:03.079
it's cats up. No, it's
not even cats up like whatever there

2114
02:08:03.159 --> 02:08:07.520
is. I just want to make
sure And how do you say it?

2115
02:08:07.600 --> 02:08:13.199
Ketch up catch up? Well,
now you're now you're veering toward. I

2116
02:08:13.279 --> 02:08:16.079
didn't hear the wrong right first,
I'm saying mustard and catch up. Okay,

2117
02:08:16.119 --> 02:08:20.199
now you're back. Yeah, you're
saying an a instead of an e

2118
02:08:20.359 --> 02:08:24.319
sound, and they were saying cat
tee. But you're saying catch up basically

2119
02:08:24.680 --> 02:08:28.600
instead of pretty much the same.
It's fine. We knew what you were

2120
02:08:28.600 --> 02:08:31.840
talking about, so it doesn't matter
though, none of none of this math.

2121
02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:37.800
I'm just yeah, I'm not a
huge fan of ketchup chips myself.

2122
02:08:37.680 --> 02:08:41.960
Same here. They seem kind of
gross. I like catch just one French

2123
02:08:41.039 --> 02:08:43.880
fries. Yes, that's the one
place to catch up belongs and on hand

2124
02:08:45.119 --> 02:08:48.359
one and only put on a handburger. I don't like it on hamburgers,

2125
02:08:48.720 --> 02:08:50.479
French fries, and I love it
on a hot dog. I put everything

2126
02:08:50.520 --> 02:08:54.680
on everything. Yeah. Yeah,
Also Little Warriors. People who like all

2127
02:08:54.760 --> 02:09:00.279
dress chips love it and want to
tell you about how much they Yeah,

2128
02:09:00.319 --> 02:09:05.479
fish chips. Yeah, Dynasty Warriors
fans really like Dynasty. That's true.

2129
02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:07.800
My old roommate in college, my
sister. Yeah, through what else do

2130
02:09:07.840 --> 02:09:11.640
you put ketchup on? I'll put
it on a hot dog, put it

2131
02:09:11.680 --> 02:09:15.960
on burger, I'll put it on
fries. Uh. Cyria no, so

2132
02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:18.520
not every eggs. No, I
don't put it on everything, but when

2133
02:09:18.560 --> 02:09:24.319
there are things to put things on, I put everything on. I know

2134
02:09:24.399 --> 02:09:28.479
people to put ketchup on eggs,
and then I've had I've saw some ketchup

2135
02:09:28.640 --> 02:09:31.720
on like it can't be just scrambled
eggs or something like that. I think

2136
02:09:31.760 --> 02:09:35.399
that's gross. But there have been
situations where I've had ketchup near eggs and

2137
02:09:35.479 --> 02:09:39.199
it's been okay. But I'm trying
to think. I can't remember the specific

2138
02:09:39.359 --> 02:09:41.239
example. It's too sweet, and
I'll put ketchup on it. I'll put

2139
02:09:41.279 --> 02:09:43.960
eggs on a hamburger. Yeah.
Do you ever put peanut butter and a

2140
02:09:43.960 --> 02:09:50.920
hamburgers? Good? Yeah, Fridays
on hamburger? Sure? H hash browns

2141
02:09:50.000 --> 02:09:54.239
for sure. Yeah. I guess
I still would. I would keep it

2142
02:09:54.319 --> 02:10:01.279
on there so it's like a paste
and then throw some mask going there to

2143
02:10:01.439 --> 02:10:07.319
each to each his or her own
I guess. All right. Here's here's

2144
02:10:07.359 --> 02:10:09.640
that email from Scott in Rochester,
New York about High Rule Warriors Legends that

2145
02:10:09.640 --> 02:10:16.119
I was talking about, which,
well, I'll just read it. I

2146
02:10:16.159 --> 02:10:20.359
picked up High Roul Warriors Legends yesterday. This is a game that easily should

2147
02:10:20.399 --> 02:10:24.319
have been a New three S exclusive
since you can't use three D on the

2148
02:10:24.399 --> 02:10:28.560
older three DS when playing this game, and the frame rate is almost unplayable.

2149
02:10:28.119 --> 02:10:33.199
Reviews are even differentiating scores for each
system. While you guys were talking

2150
02:10:33.199 --> 02:10:37.079
about the future with PS four K, I began wondering if this release is

2151
02:10:37.159 --> 02:10:41.359
telling of the future for launch PS
four and Xbox One owners, or if

2152
02:10:41.439 --> 02:10:45.800
this is just some Nintendo and technically
co a techmo wackiness. What do you

2153
02:10:45.840 --> 02:10:50.720
guys think we'll see? I think
that you know that that is a potential

2154
02:10:50.840 --> 02:10:54.760
outcome. They run that risk.
This was the egregious example of how it

2155
02:10:54.840 --> 02:10:56.800
could go wrong. I mean that
happened with the expansion pack on sixty four,

2156
02:10:56.920 --> 02:11:01.399
Like you could play Perfect Dark without
it, but it was one mode

2157
02:11:01.560 --> 02:11:05.640
or something a multiplayer it was fairly
like super Super compromised that sucks, or

2158
02:11:05.680 --> 02:11:09.960
I think there might have even parts
of multiplayer. Yeah, exactly, That's

2159
02:11:09.000 --> 02:11:11.439
what I'm saying. Yeah, there
were modes and stuff things you couldn't do.

2160
02:11:11.640 --> 02:11:16.319
Like this sounds like the worst example
of like just leaving the old user

2161
02:11:16.359 --> 02:11:18.319
based behind, you know, but
a game that technically works, but it's

2162
02:11:18.359 --> 02:11:22.359
basically a garbage experience like that's even
worse than saying, hey, you can't

2163
02:11:22.399 --> 02:11:24.319
play this at all, maybe because
then you're selling people a shitty, subpar

2164
02:11:24.439 --> 02:11:31.039
product, you know. Yeah,
I guess there's something to what you're saying.

2165
02:11:31.119 --> 02:11:33.279
I was. I don't know if
I'm quite ready to say that that's

2166
02:11:33.319 --> 02:11:37.760
worse than not selling games for the
old platform, and ideally you sell for

2167
02:11:37.840 --> 02:11:41.520
both that they are both adequate.
Yeah, at a minimum, But I

2168
02:11:41.560 --> 02:11:45.520
think it's I think it's worse to
sell a game to somebody and then they

2169
02:11:45.520 --> 02:11:48.279
find out it's absolute garbage, right
that it is, to just not make

2170
02:11:48.319 --> 02:11:52.760
it available for the platform. Yeah
yeah, yeah, A new three DS

2171
02:11:52.840 --> 02:11:54.760
is such a weird thing. Yeah, yeah, I forget that there's any

2172
02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:58.560
difference at all sometimes, but if
you look at the right, the CPU

2173
02:11:58.600 --> 02:12:01.560
of that thing is like eight times
faster. It has like it's one of

2174
02:12:01.560 --> 02:12:05.399
those things that I thought was only
going to make a difference for it was.

2175
02:12:05.479 --> 02:12:05.920
Yeah, it was one of the
things where it's like, okay,

2176
02:12:07.000 --> 02:12:09.800
they've they've done some they've made some
changes here, but like no game will

2177
02:12:09.840 --> 02:12:13.079
support it, right, and it's
like a huge difference in horsepower and nobody,

2178
02:12:13.239 --> 02:12:18.319
yeah except apparently this game, Nobody
except for people installing fucking weird firmware

2179
02:12:18.399 --> 02:12:22.800
on their units and having much better
emulator times on the new three DS as

2180
02:12:22.880 --> 02:12:26.880
they are on the regular three DS. Yeah. Uh, that was the

2181
02:12:28.199 --> 02:12:31.560
that that would until this. That
was the largest example I could think of

2182
02:12:31.880 --> 02:12:35.520
of differences between those two platforms.
Yeah, and it was like this super

2183
02:12:35.640 --> 02:12:39.880
weird edge case for crazy people.
Did you guys play any of that?

2184
02:12:39.359 --> 02:12:43.439
I've played, like a mission.
It's it's the same game, I think.

2185
02:12:43.680 --> 02:12:48.279
Yeah, it's runs worse. Yeah
me linkol. Oh even on the

2186
02:12:48.319 --> 02:12:52.239
new three DS it doesn't run great. No oh wow, jeez. Yeah,

2187
02:12:54.039 --> 02:12:56.640
maybe this just shouldn't have been made. Yeah, now you're talking,

2188
02:12:58.279 --> 02:13:03.760
yeah, fewer games. Wait though, Uh, let's see. Okay,

2189
02:13:05.000 --> 02:13:07.840
let's grab a couple more emails here. There's one from we only need one

2190
02:13:07.880 --> 02:13:11.199
game a year. Yeah, you
know, it needs to be the best

2191
02:13:11.239 --> 02:13:11.920
game. It just needs to be
the best game. It needs to be

2192
02:13:13.000 --> 02:13:16.159
all things to all people. John
Madden Football, That's the only game that

2193
02:13:16.239 --> 02:13:22.720
matters. Okay. Ben from Los
Angeles. Uh. Last week's bodcast,

2194
02:13:22.800 --> 02:13:28.159
the discussion briefly turned to getting apps
on the Japanese or New Zealand app store.

2195
02:13:28.239 --> 02:13:31.520
I'd like to highly recommend going to
the New Zealand app store for one

2196
02:13:31.560 --> 02:13:35.600
reason. Tap My Katamari, Yeah, oh, tap My Katamari was released

2197
02:13:35.600 --> 02:13:37.680
in New Zealand late last year and
seems to have come to the EU recently,

2198
02:13:39.119 --> 02:13:41.479
but it's hard to tell if it'll
come to the US or not.

2199
02:13:41.960 --> 02:13:46.720
I've been playing it for a few
months now and it's great by one reservation.

2200
02:13:46.000 --> 02:13:50.960
The one critic of clicker games I
trust hasn't weighed in. Yeah,

2201
02:13:50.039 --> 02:13:56.359
so's I'm actually interesting. It's it's
it's interesting to hear. No, no,

2202
02:13:56.960 --> 02:14:01.439
tak jeeves on college. All right, I don't I don't like this.

2203
02:14:01.760 --> 02:14:05.079
It's the best. I don't like
this one bit. I would just

2204
02:14:05.600 --> 02:14:11.359
I don't like these really completely accurate
accents like I'd like I'd like to keep

2205
02:14:11.399 --> 02:14:16.000
some Australian or New Zealand or Kiwi
people on retater to just say Jeff to

2206
02:14:16.039 --> 02:14:24.800
me whenever I want jeef ah Yeah
yeah, yeah, I'm actually I'm excited

2207
02:14:24.840 --> 02:14:28.239
to hear someone say that they had
a positive experience with that game, because

2208
02:14:28.479 --> 02:14:31.359
everything I've heard up until this point
was that it was not good. So,

2209
02:14:31.600 --> 02:14:33.279
okay, you haven't played it yourself. I have not. No,

2210
02:14:33.640 --> 02:14:37.960
I did not create the store.
Yeah then that's there's that Match three w

2211
02:14:37.119 --> 02:14:41.520
w E game is also out in
New Zealand right now too. I think

2212
02:14:41.600 --> 02:14:43.760
yeah, you mentioned it's like a
puzzle quest. That seems like it's like

2213
02:14:43.760 --> 02:14:46.720
a puzzle quest style. It's try
that. Yeah, that's uh that weird

2214
02:14:46.800 --> 02:14:50.239
plans versus zombies like Hearth stowed Ish
game is out in New Zealand as well.

2215
02:14:50.399 --> 02:14:54.439
They need to you know, it's
they will launch there or because the

2216
02:14:54.479 --> 02:14:58.560
time zone works out, so sometimes
things will launch first there so that they

2217
02:14:58.680 --> 02:15:01.079
release that all that makes sense sense
to me when it's like coming out like

2218
02:15:01.359 --> 02:15:05.239
later that day, right another territory, but like so months later. For

2219
02:15:05.319 --> 02:15:09.920
a lot of free to play games, you'll have larger publishers soft launched their

2220
02:15:09.920 --> 02:15:13.199
game in specific territories as like a
beta tech type of things. Like you

2221
02:15:13.239 --> 02:15:18.079
know, EA has launched games in
Canada before because that time zone lines up

2222
02:15:18.079 --> 02:15:22.239
with their development studio better than New
Zealand does. Smaller market. Yeah,

2223
02:15:22.479 --> 02:15:28.680
okay, so congratulations Canada. So
yeah, there's definitely been multiple cases of

2224
02:15:28.960 --> 02:15:33.560
different territories getting iOS games way earlier
just as part of like a like hey,

2225
02:15:33.600 --> 02:15:35.239
we need to kick kick the tires
on these servers. Make sure that

2226
02:15:35.319 --> 02:15:39.279
our stuff is not going to fucking
catch on fire. So let's put it

2227
02:15:39.279 --> 02:15:41.720
out in Canada for a month first
and then see out does and then But

2228
02:15:41.880 --> 02:15:46.680
yeah, New Zealand is typically I
always thought that New Zealand just because that

2229
02:15:46.840 --> 02:15:50.439
was the first time zone where things
would roll out, that you know,

2230
02:15:50.800 --> 02:15:54.039
fourteen hours later, however long,
you would be playing it here. But

2231
02:15:54.119 --> 02:15:58.479
that's not always the case. Yeah, I was shocked to hear that Catemory

2232
02:15:58.560 --> 02:16:01.079
had been out there for ages.
Yeah it's still not here, yep.

2233
02:16:01.399 --> 02:16:03.640
So it's just a clicker. Yeah, it's the Catemari themed clicker or some

2234
02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:07.760
sort of My understanding is that it's
Adam theme clicker. So that's that's probably.

2235
02:16:09.119 --> 02:16:13.600
That's probably great. Sounds good on
paper, that sounds good. Let's

2236
02:16:13.600 --> 02:16:18.199
see a couple more. Roddy from
Milwaukee. After watching the end of the

2237
02:16:18.279 --> 02:16:22.279
latest episode of Game Tapes, I
canna help, but wonder well some future

2238
02:16:22.399 --> 02:16:28.399
news segment of niche entertainers capture themselves
on the latest form of media, sitting

2239
02:16:28.439 --> 02:16:33.399
down to watch an old video game
website, watch an even older game tape

2240
02:16:33.319 --> 02:16:37.120
of an ancient conference known as E
three, and talk over it. I

2241
02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:41.920
mean, people watched us watch old
Electric Playground episodes where they talked about Yes,

2242
02:16:43.239 --> 02:16:46.479
if someone were to sit down and
commentate that episode of UPF where we

2243
02:16:46.600 --> 02:16:52.000
watched the first season or the first
the debut episode of Electric Playground, I

2244
02:16:52.040 --> 02:16:56.639
would say that would be the truest
form of making it. It's making something.

2245
02:16:56.879 --> 02:17:01.000
Yeah, that's how you know that
you did you did it. Yeah,

2246
02:17:01.120 --> 02:17:03.319
I don't know. It's twenty years
from now. People are digging shit

2247
02:17:03.479 --> 02:17:05.680
up and yeah, I don't know. That's a weird thing. Yeah,

2248
02:17:05.680 --> 02:17:07.360
I don't know. Like sometimes I
think like, oh, we should go

2249
02:17:07.360 --> 02:17:11.319
back and watch some old video reviews
we did or something like that. Sometimes

2250
02:17:11.319 --> 02:17:15.680
we do end up dipping into that
at random. I don't know. Uh,

2251
02:17:16.120 --> 02:17:20.079
in all seriousnessnow, I don't think
anybody's gonna do that. But weirder

2252
02:17:20.159 --> 02:17:26.520
things have happened on the internet.
Yeah, no, no, that would

2253
02:17:26.559 --> 02:17:30.319
be the weird. Watch the videos
of young bearded Brad looking into the camera

2254
02:17:31.559 --> 02:17:35.159
telling us, spilling his heart about
these videos. I could have no support

2255
02:17:35.239 --> 02:17:39.440
whatsoever or like any kind of training
or advice, and it's just like I

2256
02:17:39.600 --> 02:17:41.120
write a script and go shoot it. I tried to. There was a

2257
02:17:41.239 --> 02:17:45.120
time where I was trying to give
some feedback to some people, but I

2258
02:17:45.120 --> 02:17:48.159
don't you might not have been there, I don't think. So. There

2259
02:17:48.239 --> 02:17:52.799
was a whole lot of figuring it
out yourself totally going on there. It

2260
02:17:52.959 --> 02:17:56.879
is not a natural thing, as
it turns out. Yeah, yeah,

2261
02:17:56.959 --> 02:18:00.360
it's on some level. It's maybe
bad to be good at its hard.

2262
02:18:00.840 --> 02:18:03.399
First time I did it, I
uh, I think it was Game of

2263
02:18:03.520 --> 02:18:07.440
the Year or maybe an I'll have
mondays or something that I read from a

2264
02:18:07.479 --> 02:18:13.360
teleprompter, and I just watched Ryan
Davis do it. Took notes, sure.

2265
02:18:13.680 --> 02:18:16.879
Yeah. My advice for for him
and for a lot of the people

2266
02:18:18.159 --> 02:18:20.399
in those early days of game spot
was literally watch a bunch of MTV.

2267
02:18:20.760 --> 02:18:24.440
Oh you know what, Actually what
it was was when I was first doing

2268
02:18:24.479 --> 02:18:26.840
it, it was before we started
writing scripts. We were at a living

2269
02:18:26.879 --> 02:18:30.920
in front of the camera at that
point. That was that was a nightmare.

2270
02:18:31.000 --> 02:18:33.360
That's hard. Yes, we didn't
have a script to read. It

2271
02:18:33.479 --> 02:18:35.520
was literally just like sit there in
front of the camera and stare at it

2272
02:18:35.559 --> 02:18:41.360
and gather your thoughts and say some
stuff like rough stuff. I enjoyed doing

2273
02:18:41.399 --> 02:18:43.799
it that way. Yeah, I
mean some people just some people have a

2274
02:18:43.920 --> 02:18:46.159
but it was it was a knack
for it. But yeah, not everybody.

2275
02:18:46.159 --> 02:18:48.959
It was way more scat I'm sure
on the editing side it was a

2276
02:18:48.959 --> 02:18:50.040
fucking nightmare. It's like, I
don't know, here's twenty minutes of me

2277
02:18:50.120 --> 02:18:52.559
fucking rambling. We would luck.
I mean that's how I'm doing Giant Bomb

2278
02:18:52.639 --> 02:18:56.479
video. Yeah, that's I remember. That's how you were doing video reviews

2279
02:18:56.520 --> 02:19:00.280
at first. Yeah. Here,
but they took way too long and get

2280
02:19:00.319 --> 02:19:03.680
it. Yeah, so then we
started, you guys want to banging out

2281
02:19:03.719 --> 02:19:07.959
of script and it was way cleaner. Ye. Reading a tele prompter like

2282
02:19:09.120 --> 02:19:13.120
a human yeah is tough. Yeah, well, like some people, like

2283
02:19:13.280 --> 02:19:16.319
you know, there's a cadence and
sound to television that people still recognize as

2284
02:19:16.440 --> 02:19:20.159
human even though it's totally Yeah,
I would say, it's actually, uh,

2285
02:19:20.639 --> 02:19:24.760
it's not at all the way you
want to talk like they're they're counterintuitive

2286
02:19:24.760 --> 02:19:28.040
things like oh, you need to
actually speak a lot more slowly than you

2287
02:19:28.079 --> 02:19:30.760
would in a conversation. Yeah.
Yeah, Like when I was doing that

2288
02:19:30.799 --> 02:19:33.239
fake sixty minutes thing for Game of
the Year like two or three years ago,

2289
02:19:33.239 --> 02:19:35.399
it was like to realize, like
you're literally speaking at like half the

2290
02:19:35.440 --> 02:19:39.639
speed you would want to say,
right, So I just that stuff is

2291
02:19:39.719 --> 02:19:45.360
he busy. Yes, that stuff
I do for for CBS Radio is like

2292
02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:48.200
I'd slow it way. Yeah.
It's a new twist on an old habit

2293
02:19:48.920 --> 02:19:54.319
and it's getting some kids dunked for
life. Like it's just weird little pauses

2294
02:19:54.360 --> 02:19:56.200
and stuff like it's yeah, and
it's the inflection and all that stuff,

2295
02:19:56.200 --> 02:20:01.319
Like it sounds like TV. Some
people like when when you give nine tenths

2296
02:20:01.399 --> 02:20:05.760
of that presentation but don't have the
voice that like are the cadence that fits

2297
02:20:05.799 --> 02:20:09.120
it, it breaks the whole thing
totally. So you slip into an announcer

2298
02:20:09.239 --> 02:20:13.079
voice. Yeah, because it makes
everyone a little bit more comfortable. Yeah,

2299
02:20:13.319 --> 02:20:18.319
except for now that no one has
television anymore because we're all cutting the

2300
02:20:18.399 --> 02:20:22.040
cord. It's only going to get
weirder from here on out. And also

2301
02:20:22.079 --> 02:20:28.440
everything is like real supposedly now,
except authenticity is king fake authenticity. I'm

2302
02:20:28.479 --> 02:20:35.719
gonna scream at this trailer on the
internet for you right now, man,

2303
02:20:35.520 --> 02:20:39.159
Yeah, Like that's the that is
just new newscaster voice. New newscaster voice

2304
02:20:39.319 --> 02:20:46.319
is like you know, twenty something
screaming at YouTube, Yeah, at at

2305
02:20:46.399 --> 02:20:50.399
webcam, Like that is that's the
new newscaster. That's the way it was

2306
02:20:50.719 --> 02:20:54.959
And a lot of a lot of
March twenty nine, a lot of YouTube,

2307
02:20:54.959 --> 02:20:58.000
even even edited YouTube videos. The
narration is super fast, like they're

2308
02:20:58.079 --> 02:21:01.920
trying to cram in totally fast,
Like I don't know if that's just like

2309
02:21:03.000 --> 02:21:07.319
I'm afraid. I'm afraid my audience
of adolescents have short attention spans and they're

2310
02:21:07.319 --> 02:21:09.680
gonna like get bored if I don't
just keep pouring it on or like what

2311
02:21:09.840 --> 02:21:13.719
that is cutting out any breath,
your taste. But it is the complete

2312
02:21:15.360 --> 02:21:18.200
polar opposite of like that old style
newscast, and there's like it's it's wild.

2313
02:21:18.319 --> 02:21:22.840
It's like I know some people find
it really grating and frustrating, but

2314
02:21:22.920 --> 02:21:26.840
there's something about that YouTube style of
just the constant cuts without covering the cuts

2315
02:21:26.879 --> 02:21:31.200
with footage or just like the very
visible like I'm gonna talk in this sentence

2316
02:21:31.200 --> 02:21:33.399
and then now we're over here like
like that. I fucking love it.

2317
02:21:33.719 --> 02:21:37.120
Really. Yeah, it's fine,
it's fine as a style, but I

2318
02:21:37.239 --> 02:21:39.399
hate that it's the default style,
Like I don't. Yeah, yes,

2319
02:21:39.479 --> 02:21:41.840
I wish to wish it wasn't getting
you know, I don't, And I

2320
02:21:41.920 --> 02:21:46.959
think it's like increasingly not the style. Yeah, Like there's definitely people leaning

2321
02:21:46.000 --> 02:21:50.000
into it. You know. Then
they're definitely leaning into it in a way

2322
02:21:50.040 --> 02:21:54.600
that I think is like too much, you know. But but there's something

2323
02:21:54.680 --> 02:22:00.079
about the language of it. There's
something about the flow of it. It

2324
02:22:00.559 --> 02:22:05.319
like interrupting itself with itself, Like
it makes it this very like fast paced,

2325
02:22:05.479 --> 02:22:11.440
manic thing. Good though. I
think it's I like the way it

2326
02:22:11.479 --> 02:22:13.520
sounds. It's is it the best
way for conveying information? Like like ideas

2327
02:22:13.520 --> 02:22:18.879
and stuff don't have any time to
breathe. Yeah, I'm welcome to the

2328
02:22:18.680 --> 02:22:22.120
entirety of the Internet. Like what
the fuck? Like, you know,

2329
02:22:22.239 --> 02:22:24.280
you talk about ideas not having room
to breathe, Like everyone is fucking it's

2330
02:22:24.319 --> 02:22:28.280
hot, take Central fucking twenty four
hours a day, and it's like it's

2331
02:22:28.280 --> 02:22:30.760
like what Twitter is and and you
know, it's like it's like, you

2332
02:22:31.040 --> 02:22:33.920
know, it's it's becoming And this
makes me sound super old, but increasingly

2333
02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:37.000
a society of like, you know, you you can't sit idle for thirty

2334
02:22:37.000 --> 02:22:39.319
seconds before your hand just goes to
your phone, you know, like yeah

2335
02:22:39.399 --> 02:22:41.920
people and people don't just sit like
out the window anymore, you know.

2336
02:22:41.079 --> 02:22:46.399
I mean it's very much like like
mindfully like so I don't say that as

2337
02:22:46.440 --> 02:22:48.120
like a you damn kids kind of
thing. It's like it's like very much

2338
02:22:48.200 --> 02:22:54.479
like my feeling my own uh like
desperation to keep information flowing in, you

2339
02:22:54.559 --> 02:22:58.200
know. Yeah, like like I
have flowing out, like I guess,

2340
02:22:58.200 --> 02:23:01.440
so yeah, but like I just
I start getting antsy if I'm not like

2341
02:23:01.559 --> 02:23:05.280
consuming constantly. You know. I've
started very like you know, because I

2342
02:23:05.319 --> 02:23:07.319
think we do this thing once a
week, you know. So it's like

2343
02:23:07.440 --> 02:23:09.639
there's like there's a certain airing of
grievances that can happen, what so,

2344
02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:15.200
like we have this outlet and that
I've tried to be a little more mindful

2345
02:23:15.239 --> 02:23:18.680
of that and like hold back a
little bit, you know, or not

2346
02:23:18.760 --> 02:23:22.159
even necessarily hold back, because there
are other cases where it's just like I've

2347
02:23:22.200 --> 02:23:26.959
realized I don't give a shit about
the thing that everyone is fucking talking about

2348
02:23:26.000 --> 02:23:28.840
today. And I don't even need
to get out there and say, hey,

2349
02:23:28.879 --> 02:23:31.719
I don't give a shit about this, because we've been through that too.

2350
02:23:31.879 --> 02:23:35.719
Yeah. It's like too busy over
here not giving a shit to let

2351
02:23:35.760 --> 02:23:37.440
you know that I don't get Yeah, it's whatever, and it's like this

2352
02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:39.879
for us, like and it's like
I'm not gonna come out and say,

2353
02:23:39.879 --> 02:23:43.239
oh, I think that new Batman
movie looks stupid, because but there's this

2354
02:23:43.319 --> 02:23:46.200
like knee jerk feeling to just like
I should really weigh another. And you

2355
02:23:46.319 --> 02:23:50.040
know, it's at a point now
where, like you know, having built

2356
02:23:50.040 --> 02:23:52.159
audiences and stuff like that, like
like there are some people that are like,

2357
02:23:52.479 --> 02:23:56.639
hey, what do you think about
the latest Batman versus like they're trying

2358
02:23:56.680 --> 02:24:01.479
to like goad me into having that
thing, and I just don't even give

2359
02:24:01.479 --> 02:24:05.360
it to him because I just don't
fucking care. Uh. And it's like

2360
02:24:05.479 --> 02:24:09.719
you see more and more people out
there that are like in the personality game

2361
02:24:09.399 --> 02:24:13.719
that are out there like that is
still their bread and butter, and that's

2362
02:24:13.120 --> 02:24:16.120
they're they're just like, well,
we gotta we gotta make money on this

2363
02:24:16.239 --> 02:24:20.959
thing today. I have an extreme
opinion on whatever the trending hashtag or whatever

2364
02:24:20.959 --> 02:24:24.799
it is or yeah, and it's
like that's you know, like like I've

2365
02:24:26.200 --> 02:24:28.959
been there to a certain extent and
I just I don't like it. I

2366
02:24:30.079 --> 02:24:35.319
just don't like it. And if
that means that like there will be some

2367
02:24:35.520 --> 02:24:39.879
element of heat that can pass us
by because we're not there in everyone's face

2368
02:24:39.959 --> 02:24:45.840
with an opinion on every single thing, like I'll fucking live or maybe I

2369
02:24:45.879 --> 02:24:48.239
won't. I don't know. Maybe
maybe maybe we'll all be out on the

2370
02:24:48.280 --> 02:24:52.319
street. You faded into irrelevance because
you didn't have anything snarky to say about

2371
02:24:52.399 --> 02:24:58.719
Zack Snyder the other day. Gosh
shit, If that's actually the case,

2372
02:24:58.799 --> 02:25:03.200
then I want out. I'm fine
with that. I will quietly go find

2373
02:25:03.239 --> 02:25:05.799
another place for myself if that's what
it takes. But it's one of the

2374
02:25:05.799 --> 02:25:07.479
things where it's like I do have
thoughts about it, I just don't care

2375
02:25:07.760 --> 02:25:11.959
enough to express them anymore with or
especially if your thoughts are that you don't

2376
02:25:13.000 --> 02:25:16.559
care. What is adding fucking whatever
to the conversation. You're not you're not

2377
02:25:16.680 --> 02:25:20.879
critically appraising something. You know,
Yeah, it's not. There's not much

2378
02:25:20.959 --> 02:25:22.680
of merit. I don't need to
get out there, especially if people have

2379
02:25:22.760 --> 02:25:26.879
been like following us for a length
of time. I don't need to get

2380
02:25:26.920 --> 02:25:28.239
out there and say, hey,
here's another movie I'm not going to see.

2381
02:25:28.360 --> 02:25:31.799
Right, they probably thinks, probably
here's another movie I was never going

2382
02:25:31.879 --> 02:25:37.159
to see. Like it's it can
be left unsaid, even though I just

2383
02:25:37.239 --> 02:25:41.159
said it all. That's the fucking
horrible, fucking snake like existence. I

2384
02:25:43.120 --> 02:25:48.680
I have embraced less as more as
a maximum across just about every respect of

2385
02:25:48.799 --> 02:25:52.399
this thing. I guess. Keep
keep them coming, you know, keep

2386
02:25:52.479 --> 02:25:56.959
asking for more. Don't give them
too much, I guess, I don't

2387
02:25:56.000 --> 02:26:00.799
know. Keep him guessing. Two
hours forty five minutes, all right,

2388
02:26:00.840 --> 02:26:03.040
Well, if we don't hit three
hours, then someone complains, So keep

2389
02:26:03.120 --> 02:26:07.079
the emails coming in, all right, batman, let's talk about it.

2390
02:26:11.200 --> 02:26:13.639
That I didn't even like. Three
hundred was like some kind of bullshit drunk

2391
02:26:13.680 --> 02:26:16.920
man's for dream. Wait, aren't
you serious? What about three hundred?

2392
02:26:16.000 --> 02:26:18.920
Yeah? I hated three hundred.
That seems like that movie seems like it's

2393
02:26:18.959 --> 02:26:22.319
made for you. Sucks ass,
Wow, I think that crazy to hear?

2394
02:26:22.479 --> 02:26:26.280
Which one is that? I thought? I understood this is Sparta and

2395
02:26:26.319 --> 02:26:28.159
all this? Okay, sucks ass. I never saw it. Yeah,

2396
02:26:28.600 --> 02:26:31.600
you didn't miss out? All right, it's stupid. It's trying way too

2397
02:26:31.639 --> 02:26:35.600
fucking hard. I liked it.
I hated it. I don't remember anything

2398
02:26:35.639 --> 02:26:39.280
about it. That's a SlowMo and
screaming. And you see those abs though,

2399
02:26:41.440 --> 02:26:46.959
No, I didn't check this out. All right, all right,

2400
02:26:46.760 --> 02:26:54.600
so many abs emails ahead. I
guess I could read another one. Sure,

2401
02:26:54.799 --> 02:26:56.879
I don't know. I guess we
just kind of like we flow into

2402
02:26:56.920 --> 02:27:00.200
it at random at times, like
what was the was that demo Derby where

2403
02:27:00.200 --> 02:27:03.520
we ended up talking about how fucking
dumb Superman is? For Oh yeah,

2404
02:27:03.559 --> 02:27:07.799
I love that. Sometimes you just
got to talk about how dumb Superman is.

2405
02:27:09.040 --> 02:27:13.120
Its Superman is the fucking dumbest ships
stupid character. It was very relevant.

2406
02:27:13.239 --> 02:27:15.920
Yeah, it was, Yeah,
we're playing a Superman game, or

2407
02:27:16.559 --> 02:27:20.479
yeah, the spider Man game.
Maybe maybe you're right, maybe we were,

2408
02:27:20.719 --> 02:27:24.360
we were we played spider Man two
naturally started talking about how Superman sucks,

2409
02:27:24.600 --> 02:27:28.079
sucks, such as your hat shard
for Superman, he's the fucking worst.

2410
02:27:28.200 --> 02:27:31.239
Yeah, it was just like he's
a boring character. What I could,

2411
02:27:31.319 --> 02:27:33.879
Well, I could read through the
list of villains again, it would

2412
02:27:33.879 --> 02:27:37.159
be just as much of a scream
as it was the last time, because

2413
02:27:37.239 --> 02:27:39.840
what a fucking list of dumb fucking
things. I mean, I I even

2414
02:27:41.079 --> 02:27:46.239
I know Superman obsessives who will admit, like what a problem that character is

2415
02:27:46.319 --> 02:27:50.639
to like write like drama around.
So anybody who was actually defending Superman in

2416
02:27:50.719 --> 02:27:54.840
that context, is this one person
that I think is allowed to defend Superman.

2417
02:27:54.479 --> 02:27:58.280
That Shaquille O'Neil. Yeah, because
he got that tattoo. It's true.

2418
02:27:58.479 --> 02:28:03.360
Yes, so he came back.
What about Nicholas Cage. I would't

2419
02:28:03.399 --> 02:28:09.319
think he would hate Superman that down
he named he named his child. He

2420
02:28:09.440 --> 02:28:13.000
was thinking about the failed Superman movie
where he was going to be a supermight

2421
02:28:13.040 --> 02:28:15.959
but he was going to be in
it because he is a complete fucking lutic

2422
02:28:16.040 --> 02:28:18.079
for Superman. Forgot that part of
it. Yeah, also just a complete

2423
02:28:18.399 --> 02:28:22.559
he's the ghostwriter. That was the
best he could get Johnny Blaze at the

2424
02:28:22.600 --> 02:28:26.120
time, the iron lung. It's
not quite the same. No, I

2425
02:28:26.159 --> 02:28:28.520
don't know what castor Troy. Yeah, now you're talking, I'll talk about

2426
02:28:28.520 --> 02:28:33.479
superheroes. Yeah, it's not castor
Troy. It's Pollocks Troy. Yeah,

2427
02:28:33.600 --> 02:28:39.440
yes, no, what this guy's
even worse stand good speed? Oh hero?

2428
02:28:39.799 --> 02:28:46.159
What are you talking about? He
said it's Mason Sniper. Was gonna

2429
02:28:46.200 --> 02:28:48.360
have good speed if Mason didn't come
back. Hey, they're both got vapor

2430
02:28:48.440 --> 02:28:52.840
eyes. They're both heroes. Bodies
can do that. Yeah, ypers Yeah,

2431
02:28:54.719 --> 02:28:58.520
alright. Last email, it's from
Liz. Do any of you get

2432
02:28:58.600 --> 02:29:01.639
clammy hands when holding a control my
hands get way sweaty, and my significant

2433
02:29:01.680 --> 02:29:05.959
other teases me about it whenever he
catches me wiping my palms off on the

2434
02:29:05.000 --> 02:29:09.120
couch or on my pants. Would
you ever feel weird passing a controller to

2435
02:29:09.200 --> 02:29:13.440
someone after you've been holding it with
clammy hands? And how would you combat

2436
02:29:13.520 --> 02:29:15.600
this? Never? I don't know
why. Yeah, I don't. I

2437
02:29:15.639 --> 02:29:18.440
don't have sweaty thank god, because
it's gross. Do you remember the controllers

2438
02:29:18.479 --> 02:29:24.200
are like two era that had the
like fucking air into it. Yeah,

2439
02:29:24.879 --> 02:29:28.200
little vents and they would cool your
hands and it was yeah, just a

2440
02:29:28.280 --> 02:29:31.239
third party, dumb night just like
one of these nightmare companies. It'll happen

2441
02:29:31.280 --> 02:29:33.879
once in a while, a like
e three year oppress event or something,

2442
02:29:33.959 --> 02:29:37.000
when you go up and play something
after somebody. It's gross. Controller is

2443
02:29:37.079 --> 02:29:41.360
like slightly slimy. Yeah, I
don't really swam Welcome to the wonderful world

2444
02:29:41.399 --> 02:29:45.159
of VR. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think I

2445
02:29:45.239 --> 02:29:50.920
think that there's more likely to be
grossed up ring sets as much as we

2446
02:29:50.040 --> 02:29:54.120
joke about it at trade events and
stuff like. I don't know, I

2447
02:29:54.159 --> 02:29:56.120
guess so going out of their eyes. But that's the things like the oil

2448
02:29:56.200 --> 02:30:01.159
on your face but the thing around
the ring, the that you know presses

2449
02:30:01.159 --> 02:30:05.239
into your face because you accidentally wore
it too tight. Uh, like that

2450
02:30:05.559 --> 02:30:09.840
absorbs, you know that that can
be slightly absorbent. That's that's a foam

2451
02:30:09.920 --> 02:30:11.040
layer. Yeah, I don't know
what's made out of. It's true.

2452
02:30:11.639 --> 02:30:16.479
I put that thing on before and
it's been wet. Yeah, the one

2453
02:30:16.600 --> 02:30:22.079
in the studio, I can't remember
if that one was gross. I've definitely

2454
02:30:22.120 --> 02:30:24.280
seen some people sweating on VR headsets
that like packs some stuff. Yeah,

2455
02:30:24.399 --> 02:30:28.040
yeah, you know your head's warm, yeah, exactly, that's your your

2456
02:30:28.040 --> 02:30:31.280
forehead is you know, that's where
sweat lives. Concerned that I never really

2457
02:30:31.319 --> 02:30:35.040
sweat, even like when I'm working
out and stuff. I don't really Yeah,

2458
02:30:35.079 --> 02:30:37.200
and like even with like anxiety and
stuff like you know, you always

2459
02:30:37.200 --> 02:30:41.479
hear about like people I drink a
lot of soda and what's your what's your

2460
02:30:41.520 --> 02:30:43.879
resting heart rate? Actually, right
now it's sitting around seventy two seventy one.

2461
02:30:43.879 --> 02:30:46.200
That's pretty good. That's right now, that's pretty good. Yeah yeah,

2462
02:30:46.319 --> 02:30:50.719
yeah, okay, you might you
might just be an extremely good cardiovascular

2463
02:30:50.760 --> 02:30:52.239
shape. I don't know. The
only thing that does it is stationary bikes

2464
02:30:52.280 --> 02:30:54.879
my whole back will be wet after
stationary bike. But I can run like

2465
02:30:56.319 --> 02:31:00.319
eight or ten miles and not be
sweaty. She's really it's crazy. It's

2466
02:31:00.319 --> 02:31:05.000
a superpower. It's not really useful. I guess not. I guess not.

2467
02:31:05.920 --> 02:31:07.879
I was thinking the other day,
if I had a superpower, I

2468
02:31:07.920 --> 02:31:11.239
would want it to be I can
look at somebody and find out what the

2469
02:31:11.319 --> 02:31:16.200
last ten Wikipedia pages they read were. It's pretty good find out a lot

2470
02:31:16.200 --> 02:31:18.840
about a person that way. I
don't know that it would tell you that

2471
02:31:18.920 --> 02:31:22.319
much. It would tell you,
like, because everyone's gonna be the same

2472
02:31:22.399 --> 02:31:24.719
fucking dark weird ship. Well,
actually, but I guess there's actually there's.

2473
02:31:26.159 --> 02:31:28.639
Wikipedia is cleaned up enough that you
wouldn't see the darkest things because they

2474
02:31:28.639 --> 02:31:33.479
have to go elsewhere for the darkest
stuff. The last ten Urban Dictionary.

2475
02:31:33.920 --> 02:31:37.120
Okay, that's not bad, that's
not well, yeah, but anybody that

2476
02:31:37.200 --> 02:31:39.760
has to go to Urban Dictionary is
implicitly admitting they're not cool because they don't

2477
02:31:39.799 --> 02:31:43.040
just know, right, So what
if you saw their lookups for yeah,

2478
02:31:43.040 --> 02:31:46.280
I guess so cool people. Yeah, okay, sure, it's like,

2479
02:31:46.479 --> 02:31:48.920
wow, you didn't know that.
And you walk by one guy and he

2480
02:31:48.000 --> 02:31:52.600
doesn't have any My favorite or my
my all time favorite though, would still

2481
02:31:52.639 --> 02:31:56.200
be the power to know who got
me sick, who was the person who

2482
02:31:56.239 --> 02:32:03.319
was the vector who passed it along, whose hands you sneezed in my vicinity?

2483
02:32:03.440 --> 02:32:05.280
Now, the best one would be
the like T one thousand things where

2484
02:32:05.280 --> 02:32:09.120
you could look like someone else and
then just go do a bunch of bullshit

2485
02:32:09.479 --> 02:32:13.520
and then everyone would blame the person
that you look like. See. I'd

2486
02:32:13.639 --> 02:32:16.680
rather be able to stop time and
move around so I could do all that

2487
02:32:16.719 --> 02:32:18.559
bullshit and no one would ever know. Yeah, but isn't it funnier if,

2488
02:32:18.680 --> 02:32:22.239
like, like if I could make
myself look like John Drake or something

2489
02:32:22.520 --> 02:32:24.479
and then go around and just be
a total dickhead everyone, and then everyone

2490
02:32:24.520 --> 02:32:26.879
thinks John Drakeson. No, it
would be way funnier to be a ghost

2491
02:32:28.760 --> 02:32:31.159
of like time stop and start powers, because then you could stand in front

2492
02:32:31.200 --> 02:32:37.360
of somebody start and like stop start
time stop it again immediately then walk away

2493
02:32:37.120 --> 02:32:41.360
and they would think they saw you, and they'd be thinking, yeah,

2494
02:32:41.079 --> 02:32:46.239
yeah, that'd be pretty good fight
club thing of splicing a single frame,

2495
02:32:46.399 --> 02:32:50.600
Yeah exactly. Yeah, all right, that's way more than your favorite superpowers

2496
02:32:50.680 --> 02:32:54.760
and your most desired superpower to BombCast
at bomb dot com. Yeah, sure,

2497
02:32:54.799 --> 02:32:58.799
I want to know, but like
not the not the easy shit.

2498
02:32:58.040 --> 02:33:03.360
Yeah, that's boring. Step it
up a notch. Get creative. All

2499
02:33:03.440 --> 02:33:05.559
right, let's gonna do it.
Let's get out of here. Yeah,

2500
02:33:05.399 --> 02:33:13.360
this is uh these day of recordings
tibly Yeah, but hectic, right,

2501
02:33:13.440 --> 02:33:16.639
I get this thing out. I'm
sorry, I feel like still a little

2502
02:33:16.639 --> 02:33:20.319
out of it. Yeah, yesterday
might so that longs I forgot. I

2503
02:33:20.399 --> 02:33:24.520
forgot to mention my fucking neck hurts
on top of my neck, base of

2504
02:33:24.639 --> 02:33:28.840
my skull, like when I turned
my head. It is unpleasant, weird.

2505
02:33:28.920 --> 02:33:33.639
No, I don't have that oculitis. People, that's pretty good.

2506
02:33:33.879 --> 02:33:35.319
I was gonna say VR neck,
but I think you're just better. Yeah,

2507
02:33:37.440 --> 02:33:41.040
I'm sure Oculus would not be thrilled
here that this may say more about

2508
02:33:41.120 --> 02:33:45.879
VR arthritis. Yes, okay,
that's pretty good. That's pretty good.

2509
02:33:48.840 --> 02:33:52.319
I still have anything else I'm trying
to I try to stop the arthropedic shoes.

2510
02:33:52.399 --> 02:33:56.479
All right, we have to go. Somebody made that pinball machine thing?

2511
02:33:56.520 --> 02:33:58.440
But to go? Oh yeah I
saw, Yeah, I have to

2512
02:33:58.479 --> 02:34:03.479
go to Dallas. Wow, really
tomorrow Dallas? Okay for a week.

2513
02:34:03.559 --> 02:34:05.239
Yeah, you're out of here.
It sounds like you're going on Friday.

2514
02:34:05.479 --> 02:34:09.520
Yeah, I got some stuff I
go do. Some stuff will happen though.

2515
02:34:09.200 --> 02:34:13.280
Things will pop off on the website
as you Yes, all right,

2516
02:34:13.360 --> 02:34:18.280
we got that Bikini Party game.
Have fun with that. Enjoy. Oh

2517
02:34:18.399 --> 02:34:22.959
yeah, I would actually rather sit
and edit this podcast. I want to

2518
02:34:22.000 --> 02:34:26.760
see if it go there and we'll
get do anything with the street Fighter patch.

2519
02:34:26.440 --> 02:34:31.040
Probably not, Oh no, maybe, I don't know. Jason said

2520
02:34:31.040 --> 02:34:33.920
that the the Lobby stuff is now
support it now it supports more than two

2521
02:34:33.920 --> 02:34:37.920
players, but is also kind of
fucked up crazy. It does not work

2522
02:34:37.959 --> 02:34:39.959
as well as you wanted to,
So I don't know. We'll see.

2523
02:34:41.000 --> 02:34:43.399
There's there's some stuff out here.
The Killer Instinct season three, Yeah,

2524
02:34:43.440 --> 02:34:48.319
that's yeah, that's out with that. That that weird StarCraft two. Oh

2525
02:34:48.440 --> 02:34:52.879
the thing is out this week.
Yeah. Yeah, I want to take

2526
02:34:52.879 --> 02:34:54.559
a look at that, figure out
what the hell that is. Yeah.

2527
02:34:54.559 --> 02:34:58.239
Sure, stuff will happen, yes
on the website jabab dot com, where

2528
02:34:58.239 --> 02:35:03.760
you will also fund and another edition
of the Giant BombCast next week. Seven