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Hi, everybody, This des Irene Allan from the Paranormal or UK Radio
Show, the flagship show to the Paranormal or UK Radio Network. And I'm
sitting here at the moment in my home dining room, right across the table
from someone that's flown all the way over the pond just to do a show
and have a look around a beautiful country. Mark Johnson, Hello, here
we are. Do you know it's so Austrange's sitting opposite you are on the
table or the desk or whatever you want. To call this and actually doing
a show instead of you being boy over there how many miles away? Three
thousand something kind of miles. I don't know further than that, I believe
maybe yeah, well out of reach of me. But where you are now,
I can clip you around the air bat my ears a bait if I
get out of mine. I saw anything said now you'll gotta get to it
now. This is an absolute treat for me. First of all, it's
my first time being all the way across the Atlantic, across the pond,
over here in the UK, spending time here in Irene's home for the entire
week. Got She's had me for ten days and she hasn't killed me yet
killed me. But what I find truly special about this is the fact that
Irene and I have been working together for well over ten years, and here
we are, finally in the flesh, in the same we will give,
the same room. You know. It's some people could have called this the
ultimate cat fishing. This one person may not have been who they said they
were. But luckily for us, being the siblings in spirit that we are
here, we are yea bill. I will say this as a yank being
over here in the UK for the very first time. I absolutely bloody love
it. The country is awesome. We spent most of our time here in
Wales. We did do a quick sojourn over into the England side, but
we've seen many, many different historic locations. This week we actually were able
to get in a couple of investigations. We've had some paranormal experiences along the
way, and I got to meet Gurdie the paranormal pup. It's very true.
And I Pickle Peewe and Pickles Peewee the pope parrot. Yeah you met
them both. Yeah, that's very true. Grittie and Gertie and I are
good friends. Pickles once my face off, but let's part for the course.
And oh I even got to handle and see the ring up close.
Yeah it is. Then it's back in a safe and yep, back out
of sight, out of mind. That's real. I keep forgetting about him.
Why did we start We started a Stonehenge? Well, yes, we
went to Stonehenge or my very first day and we've got a wow people.
Wow. Actually, Mark did several wows. Every time we went to a
new site that was old and all the stonework. I would always let out
a big Wow. We'll have to call you will Mark the wow Man.
Yeah, that was but that was incredible finally going and seeing Stonehenge in person.
That was the oldest place Stonehenge, Yes, it goes back what five
thousand years? And then we came into the Roman time. Then we went
up to bat Well. First we went to stone Hinge. Then we met
one of our other paralimual show hosts, Neil Getty's War from the Paranormal Peep
Show. I no Ukay Radio Network, that's true And we had a lovely
sit down with him and we we recorded that and we're going to play that
here in just a few minutes now. That was a lovely old pub.
Yes, my first time being in real English pubs. So but then we
shot up to Bath and where they had the City of Bath which Rolands.
They had the Roman Baths up there and that was brilliant. The city itself
absolutely gorgeous. We just don't have anything gonna die for. It is absolutely
primnant from Bath. If I was going to see a city to fall in
love with on this trip, Bath was it. And there we met Andy
mursa our station manager. Kind taste Why Amanda, it's a lovely Amanda and
we had a meal and had a lovely time together. Yeah, that was
the first day, a lot of traveling, had a lot of work,
but it was great. We crammed a lot in on this trip and we've
had such a good time. We've had a couple of down days because we
needed it get caught up and relaxed. But I've been here ten days.
I'm recording this right now on Sunday, which is the last day, and
I'll have this show out this week. But we recorded some other things as
well that we're willing to include in this. We also from from Bath,
we would jumped to the Middle Ages, Kidwelly Castle, kid Walley Castle.
Oh, that was one of my favorites. We went to Kidwelly Castle and
then we went to what was in nath It wasna Abbey and Margham Castle.
Margham Castle, we went to Saint David's Puce, Bishop's Pace and Saint David's
where Saint David himself originated the Saint in Saint David, the painted Saint of
Wales, and also the cathedral down there where you saw some very very royal
tombs, very lovely well Amanda Churchyard. We walked around a graveyard and a
couple of the spirits took issue with Irene and was pushing her, telling her
to get the f outa. In fact, one of them threw a stone
at her. I actually I actually watched the stone, so I passed her.
That was good. That was That was pretty good. We had.
We caught some great evidence while we toured some of these places, kid Welly
Castle, and as at the time of this recording, I still have hours
and hours of video footage to go through from all of these places we investigated.
But I will say kid Welly Castle was probably my favorite, not only
because of the type of ruins it was. They used it for as one
of the castles in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and but we actually
had a lot of activity kind of we just felt a lot going on there,
and we had we caught a couple of anomalies on video, shadow people,
shadow people miss moving past you. No, that's true, So that's
very true. That was a lot of fun. So we met a lovely
nail and well we met Neil at the Swan Inn near Salisbury outside of Stonehenge,
and we sat down, had a couple of drinks and we actually recorded
a few people might remember some of her old pub shows from the old cockin
Balls pub. This time we were in a real, actual pub and while
we were there we've recorded a pub show. So here is the pub show
and we'll be right back after this. Hi, everybody, this is Mark
Johnson and we are here in person. I wish I could say it was
at our standard pub, well, the coffin Ball. We're actually at the
Swan Inn in Stifford in the Wall, United Kingdom, and I'm here with
Irene Allen and Neil Getty's ward, Irene's husband Brian, which here here having
a chat of course, talking about all things strange and unusual here in the
land of Marylin King Arthur. And oh yeah that's okay, then I don't
all that. And because hey we're over in Wales and we yeah, you're
staying in and on carl Wall, staying whale. We're here are you've just
been to stonehand Lord, just visit a Stonehenge today, very lovely makes little
world for Marylyn Balls Ball gave me take a sponge and Monday kid Leading Castle
where parts of the Monty Python film was. Old Lady, Yeah, that's
mine with the rabbit, Yeah with the French. Well the friend, the
friend the French. Yeah, yah, since I've seen that. So what
was your thoughts on Stonehenge mob It's beautiful. I mean, I'm out.
I loved Neolithic sites. Yeah, and oh stonehend she I've always wanted to
visit in person. It's kind of I need though, because I visit these
sites, it's like old hat. I don't an increase the level we can
play. Well, we're worry about these people. Just re grag your looks
because we're talking so up Tariel. Yeah, so yeah, I love visiting
these old places, and because they do give off such a name orgy.
And I'm of course very fascinated with the building techniques, not what they tell
us how they were made, but now they were really made. Yeah,
well do you seek Yeah yeah, well they certainly weren't chipped away by Stone
Age people with copper tools transported with wogs on rollers ship if you looked at
the actual blue standing saying, while I was like, oh, fool to
even know they're in being lops. We need to just kind of chip them
out. You can lay up a lot. Is there like a big Stonehenge
gap in the commits. Yeah, but have a bullet spot. Yeah.
Well weren't you seeing some of these stories came over from Wales? Yeah,
they son, it's been well, so where how in the heck would they
transport them? Wow? Back a couple of thous on us BC. I
think I think they will built on boardies on That's what I'm sure. I
saw something out fruted new stones came on bargies. It pro for several less
and then they were but they're so big, it's so many tons and a
will to put them taught and pull them buy option old season on sorts.
So they say, but yeah, I mind the blue sis. You know
if you go to see the blue signs and Wales when you bail them and
they actually still to you. That's interesting. When Blake we were talking about
the crystall line structure something in the granite. Now that's interesting because I'm we
intercuwed q new and for our show last year. Oh yeah, yeah,
doing stones and he talks about giant sun record and he said there's been giant
skeletons found around everywhere and in the UK and apparently giant skeletons have been found
if memory serves me correct, around the Stonehenge area. And there's another lady
we interviewed a few years ago called Maria Wheatley who also talks about Maria.
Yeah, and she talks about some guy that saw beams of energy. I
can't remember there's Stonehenge or from Stone Circles and the guy that she said report
it was a very straight laced kind of kernel type or something that was.
It might been even an engineer, but but it was very interesting what she
said. But certainly the official English Heritage version of Stonehenge's very different from the
undercurrents of Stonegies that we're hearing about. Yeah, well that's typical of mostly
historic site. Yeah. Yeah, So she when as what we were talking
about earlier, the fact that while the stones they're flat yea, and they
will be not better. They're all like through time and put back together.
How they think, how they think it worked, like m that's right,
that's right. There there are for those listening. There are pictures in existence
if you find them, I presume on the internet. I've certainly seen some
of the early part of the twentieth century where it shows them actually hoisting the
stones back up, put them into a place, and they may not be
actual in the in the place that there were five thousand years ago. They
might be off slightly, but it's their best guests. And that's not the
only set of stones that are being resurrected. There is the aby Stone Circle
in the village of Abury, and many of those stones were laying flat.
And I believe there's a story going around where again a real weekly is the
expert on this talk about there's a stone that they sound and underneath it it
was a skemmington. I think it's the barber skeleton. Is called so forward
because they had a leather rate and simply yeah, like barber tools in there
and a pair of glass squad But apparently when they were trying to post these
stones up in the Middle Ages put them up right, this one clapped back
down on the end. He was the und luppy guy that got it.
So no way I pack so they can get a new barbary. Yeah,
that's there was a vacancy. But yeah, I mean, did you feel
any kind of energies as you went around? I personally did not, but
there were so many people around. Yeah, we really couldn't get close enough.
I mean, arms more interesting when all the birds sitting up on the
styles when I was a kid leased playlists back in the fifties. Yeah,
I used to feel the virgrations for the spault Leavin Mark. We could were
people climbing up onto the top thin to another ones that yeah burned down.
Those kids don't and mom and daddy was bought vitnik Yeah, yeah, a
friend lines remember, Yeah, there are a bit all admits that they remember
having picnics at Stone Ends. Yeah. It's an interesting thought because it's just
totally I wanted, I really wants a deal to filously. Well, well,
they too bad. I didn't realize that, honestly, I didn't realize
it will still be so far away. Yeah, so far away and so
many people you know now that you know, you don't drive up to it,
the driving you had to shuttle bus. Yeah. Yeah. There was
a lot of controversy back in the late nineties early two thousand because I think
English Heritage were planning to build like an underpart something that's correct. Yeah,
and a lot of people are posted. I think it was overturned and the
time traffic goes through that road, well it's on duty some summers and we'll
just this just blow. Yeah, and it just creates too crop bus with
the stones and yeah, worried and the build an underpart. Yeah, they
go through. Yeah, and they objected strongly end yeah. Yeah, because
it would deliver a lot they did. Yes. Yeah. Plus you don't
know what you're going to hit, let's face it. That's one of the
things that we're learning about lately, how my stuff is sort of buried undergrown.
Yeah. And whenever they have an archeological fine, it's usually because they're
doing some kind of construction and Diggie absolutely and then they find bones, they
find art of bats see it buying gardments yeah yeah, yeah, and they're
only given a certain amount of time to that's strong and folks were all fitting
and lobbit Yeah, for the construction is completely Yeah. I've got an interesting
funny story, I know, I won't say his name. My brother's marriage
to a Welsh girl, as I said in News in Wales now, his
father in law is a retired builder and apparently he had found something like a
tourm down the end of his garden, U you know, wonstone thing covered
in leaves and in digging around it finds them off. But the skeleton and
the add spurs on. He seemed to be like a kind of cavalier month
a night or cavalier type the dive of the sword. He had spurs on
his shoes and everything like that, and he used to stay at the end
of the garden. So what would you think he's going to do the responsively
can cool up Welsh heritage or whoever it might be, how I can come
and ship out at night? Now what he got as a bin bag I
was JuffEd in the big and drove it to the dumb. Yeah you just
kept quiet about it, Yeah, because he knew that if he called in
those people, this project is going to get starhust s. Yeah. Yeah,
they're just lots of farmers. Do that I purchased before. They just
fire Yeah yeah, sumb it up and keep quiet because they're all that's saring
lovely. Yeah. Yes, there's there's stacks. The story in the in
the no speed on on a primes a guy who's doing some drying work and
he's uncovered at or on the floor. Wow, funnel with this one now,
I think press Quarter what a site. When I was Couplers Wells,
as you know, I lived in the Orchy Islands for five years. My
daughter still lives up on the Orky Islands, which is a group of islands
off the north coast of Scotland. Everyone calls it the Orkneys, but you
get told off by them. They don't hike it. It's got be called
the Orkney Islands or Orkney because it's a county technical and there was a farm
on it. Discovered a I don't know, Yeah, he felt that the
Graham was slightly followed when every time he was driving his machine ory everybody it's
fell kind of here but spongy or something. So he shoved the pole down
and he just ahead, going and going and going. So eventually Sharp courts
down and he found a whole bloody tomb under his garden, and so he
called in people and discovered that there's actually a burial site within his garden,
and there was like skeletons of eagles as well as human bones. It became
none locally as the Tomb of the Eagles thrown. Now it's a tourist site
up in the Orkany running and it's on this guy's land. It's not like
run by the Historic Scotland Group. It's his own private kind of wavy for
but in Orkandy. There's there's blades gnaw in three way, you know,
there's a bump of drivings. I mean, we went through a deep on
the island of Westray where we live and and they were holding a special come
and meet the archaeologist state. So the thought, oh, well, we're
going to chat to them about that in us. So we wrote these little
bumps to them and got there and the guide was saying, yeah, we've
found all these bones here in this house. And this house goes back about
three thousand years. But the interesting thing is is that it's it's like houses
upon housespon houses over the centuries. So the present house that's here today was
built in the nineteen thirties and the people that live in that house now are
the descendants of these neolithic people that live right here next door. You know
that's in forever because they've just kept living on the same side ascension. Why
yeah, But he said there's a whole village, get mine, Jim.
Well, we said, I'm aware it is a village. He says,
oh, you just grow over it on the bus where people and buildings and
yeah, yeah, this basis quite Yeah, I think it's been given a
given a look a stylized historic bot. Absolutely a folks more on on the
front hoole. Yeah, and there's something that means across as large new sight
at some point. It's just so it drifted cost shadow, I think really
Sampson and yeah it did the draft, but I think that's the door.
It's enhanced its stony. Yeah, yeah, happen to bind. This would
all be paid and there's no paints paying good mor've got out scrows or nails
would be wouldman eight off bowl It probably wouldn't be safe. Now oh yeah
they restopped fitting so and at least they are hundred years old. Just say
on that website and we looked up with deciddict to camel to this one about
one member seen it's in place. Good messaging. Time to start messaging saying
now I'm just eat ten pubs around Stone into something. It was probably used
by the Tegler Stone end. They're old Fox Lennings. Wait wait all day
you know allowing there'll be ton blocks in the place. Yeah, you're ready
for a poll beer on the in. But the old Posan runs or something
like that because it is on ze leg road. Cool and you've got that
big old barn back directly been sort of fables. Yeah yeah, pluzzing air
slaws. Why it took us were found out a lot of lands my experience,
depending on who you speak to. They take over a pub and they
don't know much about it and where I used to live and there was a
very very old pub there that they had found I think in the mid nineteen
nineties when they were doing some renovations they actually found some original borings on the
upstairs walls that are being drawn by someone. But it was drawings, and
I think the technical word for him is cartoon. But obviously we we think
of cartings and animation, but not Lin's work. And they people my pants
have like the seventeenth century about Dick Turth and type of house on inner drawings,
and this died that took over of the pub was kind of mom me,
no, I can't paint over it. I want to plan and give
it a pain on bolt too, because this has been framed in grass and
there's heritage and was so listed building and these pubs they just want to like
Salberholder, oh my god, the rain coming down. Well we'll get another
fruit yep, miss, we're a realer tint sure, yeah, Zaba,
Yes, I got the same thing you did part Yeah. What about if
they do a loumcohold Arber on mom alcoholic, I'd appreciate Becore on wine Yeah,
yeah, yeah, and on Witnes there they do limit the box.
But the birth's getting meaningful comin yeahs. I've read somewhere it's like the rainiest
August on record for a long long time. But normally August is really fought,
isn't it. Yeah? Okay, because my daughter's birthday is slang in
the middle of August, and we have always remembered really really hot weather birthday.
So and I thought, it's suposed been really nice tomorrow and for after
week, Right, Why happened it slows tomorrow because we're going in the dark.
Yeah, we're gonna sit under the joling on if it's nice five fountain
and they're going to think fast spyle at the box line, I said the
girls, and then change it for a box don't get on the boat with
the straw. And then when they say we're off to London, to London,
and while so y'all making it to London, I thought that, yeah,
don't fuck hatch what Yeah, the original basically we're gonna stay, got
rented out and we weren't gonna go. And then and Brian actually knew about
the cheaper hotel ran outside the area that one could take keep training and we'll
see some fights. Excellent, ye and bed it'll just be it overnights.
Yeah, bucking and pious. I remember showing an American friend of mine around
London about fifteen years ago when we were first of night. Seemed sucking in
alice and I saw it. I thought perct I thought it said, because
really huge, But it's not. It doesn't look so huge once you're actually
there. Yes, we've got a roll. The actual real house, Buckingham
House was owned by Lord bucking A Stacking, so dark King too, were
King Charles all this summer? Are they ain't married? And stead they'll a
lot this sing marriage Queen Shaw? Are they pulled? We wanted a resident
at seeing London just all the palaces were outside London, so they what do
you residence in London for her? Said well, bucking woman bill soft and
ball clapboard and that is only like that little. Over the years he renovated
and made it big girl, and our success has made it big and we're
it's a big court yard in the middle. Yeah, and the whole house
goes around over two fronto Bedulso whether the original bucking In House not bucking In
Paris, the original bucking Wall House had sixty rounds. This is over too
when I was mill and but then the original buck Little house. Do you
know what you see on the television the bell and he and all that lending
the carriage WHI goes through he into the courtyard at the back right opposite that
is bucking right pace with big wings coming off of what I see and see.
Yeah, so it is my big when weak with it that way,
Yes, it's the biggest blottle, only one I haven't they Yeah, with
the land as well, it is yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember
when I did showed my American friend round fifteen years ago. We traveled through
the tubes of London. Obviously to get to these places. I said,
okay, you want to see big Bay and you want to see and so
we're plotting it all now. Yeah, And we came across a bus start
the oughts to see my old call it all right? Why is it would
be fascinating make a land. We came across a busk in the London underground
playing his guitar and she hadn't the same one call. She goes, oh
cool the oscar. I said, yeah, I said, well, I
said, we have a traditioned here in the UK. It's that when he
goes, can I put thank you when you put some money in that is
making you know, guitar case or whatever. You've got to give a bound
like that too, of course, and she just really said, you know
you got to give a bow is a crossom you will do it was considered
roomed. If you don't do it, she should go out. Okay,
okay. She threw some coisy that you kept a creepy palace like that.
So they're going, oh, there's just crack about lom and you look around
a beach you won't get out. Yeah, never gave me stay around London.
And that's the lesson London let anymore. But yeah, I guess you
might see the change in the guard. I don't know when they do that.
Is that midweek or do trends of the dog ran behind them too?
Then every guy yeah, yeah, you guys are not going to Sunding for
three or four days. Broke no, they usually faint before that, they
usually pass out, not but yeah, and I think they'd be drenched as
rats by, you know, if the weather stays out of the way it
is now if Buckingham Palace haunted, I know Hampton Court is that's all house
is, That's the heart of the palace. So yeah, paltis right now
Hampton Court. I remember we're going to the reties. Well I used to
go there as a kid as Yeah, yeah about black holes? Is it
Anne Boleyne that those around names? Are those? Suppose she goes everywhere?
What's that castle near where we used to live by was by? What's that
castle where I'm Boleyne is up there? Well we as somebody you did?
That was her family? Hung jees? So should they told the hold?
The terror thought? Yeah, yeah, there must be various versions of yeah,
yeah, well I suppose there's a ghost. You can literally just plan
sport yourself from one location to another. I was telling my wife's the other
day about your ghost story, and I said, well, because I was
hoping she'd be here and I'll sell I'll get iron to tell you about the
mysterious stranger they picked up when they were going to the airport, and so
I told her about it, but I said, I'll pland get you to
say it. So could you say, for the benefit both my wife and
listening to the games, I found it fascinatescating. Yeah, we were on
the way to Bristol April because my cousin in Scotland had just died and his
funeral was on that day and we had to get a fly up to him
Scotland and back in one day. Were we flow up and back these other
dogs and well I could only get it from Bristol airport. So we are
driving through all of these county names, crossed the him for drums in his
country, and I sent your wading towards the April. Woman. We're just
going and going. But it was about four o'clock in the morning and we
had to be at the airport buying six or five April or something I like,
because it was I think in six o'clock flam it. Yeah, And
it was a mystic cold January warning freeze or cold. And we go down
all these little lanes and nothing but hate rowers will go in past us.
And I've there was no houses to wed drums. And then a rather war
this man appears and he's walking along. So I said, quickly, quick
stop last him all away. So we had asked him out to get to
the airport. He said all he said slow away from me. He says,
I have to show me really well car with hold. We could say
that he's got the car. This just straggle down sitting behind me. There's
a strangers sitting behind were and he's driving and laugh. It wasn't he could
stab as the baff of eight. He could do anything. So I'm sitting
like there's tall pit, trying to stop to kid Naioli and I said to
right. He turn left out and there's suddenly nowther We get to the airport,
and just before we get to the z short stay color part, he
says, stop here, we'll get that up. He said, well,
how are you going to get back story? He said, I can get
back there all right. And more cool thing the war was for him in
the car. Off heats the walls. And I turned around to Brians and
sifted some bigicism's fair and you know the GD some money or something. I
looked to Brian and there's something when I where to be seeing nowhere to be
seeing that he got out of the car for about the car got out of
the car as well. Okay, you know so you were talking to him,
you turned to Brian. When you look back then it's astonished. So
about a week later, so it was bothering me. About a week later
I said to Brian we still argue over this now, Chip and I sent
that boat that we've picked up all the way to Crystal Airport said what what
did you wake form? What do use? What did he look like to
you? Sagam in descriptions? Totally different to this personal that's weird, he
said. The other bag, I said, he did another bag? Yes,
said they had glasses, he didn't have facey why a whate beard roses
had you said? He was very smartly grass and not not as smartly devil
Broun. You just grow will to me, you know, it's a great
hand silas someone like pain me. And he had like a well what do
they call you something? Yeah? Yeah, an anaretis and he he said
that he used to walk from the airport back to Bristol. You should come
out at two o'clock in the mounds, the long red walk. Yeah,
give old Yeah. They used to deal with the lines. No wonder he
knew his weight as airport. But the point is you're jump for the exsistic.
It was all right, it was we able to step to the airport
when he got out of car. Disappear here not a living curse. Yeah,
have we got it? We're there, totally lost And the point the
point is the past has been up in Scotland. Dared my favorite passing.
Okay, and if I haven't the being a funeral, I would have been
doublestated. The dummy. We've all have liked it. So does I keep
yourself a Dardian angel type pool? Yeah, that's interesting. Well with the
bastip Yeah, in their land shout all the way. She's bloody lost again,
m that there's a fact that you too will saw somebody completely different.
Yeah yeah, yeah and him there she Yeah, that's a bit at the
airport. Let me, that's just agree. It would be interested if you
could retrace his steps go at Bristol every fee if he's walking streets again early
hours, Well we have actually been back to Bristol, would be little out
to Italy. Yeah, well we got route. Yeah, they wake the
right root. Have they been talked a little weakly Bristol's best kept seat.
That yeah, and so there's another ghost story that I like and jewels By,
Well, don't think it's the typically. I suppose it wouldn't be a
ghost because bluff, he's looking through your son's house in it is it in
London? And you saw this blade or someone the flat now that because it's
been averted into flat and he's young as when she saw you. Yeah,
one minute. Doc's a lemon in my yeah, lemon any she my dear
wats Yeah. It was a beautiful house. I absolutely good, beautiful house.
I loved it. I would have bought it as it was. My
friend of Brian's bought it. And they decided to turn it into apartments.
Well that's actually, and I knock it down and she'll six houses a lot.
Right. There was a monkey puzzle, true, I should right there
preservational and Midolway's partner chopped it down, so all planning stopped there. Ryan
Baying staked that. I just kept it feeling because he just went in there
on a satt he was. He's a bully, this guy. Yeah,
he's an ext rugby Bayer's bullet. That's what I won't name. He's a
bullet and he just went in there a book cups because he coaches rugby,
thought numbered and he went in there and mos knocked it down, chopped it
back, knocked it around. The beauty. Yeah, well, don't know
why. There was a beautiful house as well, so h so they started
setting to partners. So my son moved in there because he was overseeing the
world, the wonderful one mother. Of course when he used to go out
at right, Pa, see his girlfrieze, We'll come back. Every Jimmy
walked through the door. The bears woman stolen the top and spell was a
staircase that went up like that, blinding the staircake beautiful, ever so white,
and she'd stand up the top and stairs like was still here and did
just go. He would just go, I'm ignoring, hell, this is
Jayby were James was like. And it'd got back into his light where he
was sleeping. But we weren't run o this day. But he said,
I'll showing you around. So it took this little tour around the house and
he ended up in the antic why and it was obviously where the staff and
mist just staying and such people that were in service would stay up there and
the UPTA and we're looking around and everything. I can't feed anything up first
faced with the act was made up like these little the rooms they will dat
off this particular room that I was in and I was the last one to
go out, and as I got to the door, the door was about
there, well right in front of me. Was it booked to the door?
We went like that. She's standing there and she's looking at me.
Was shot and I'm looking at her the short yeah outside, come on,
mom, I'm looking at this apparition. Women's looking at me and she as
if she could see me, and I know she could see me because it
look on her face. Was its war less the same with one. Yeah,
when she was dressed as a like she'd make it. She was like
mayor the major house on my linear house what they called the women that were
top above all the star mistress of yeah, the equipment of mister Hudson,
but a lady yeah, yeah, and that's what she was. Still I
leave that. So that's the second line. Everything or more this, But
what did she can deal about me? Not to me? As I felt
sated, Wow, that's indrid and it desided to tell honestly. Yeah.
Yeah, that's why I think it's not like you're seeing the ghost of a
person who died like he was, like you both were alive or my live
w been breathing. It just happened to have been occupying different times in the
same space. But the conditions right, you could see each other. Yeah,
but it does have a good way before I had time six but which
it was only the fact that they were davitaid when cameled one. But I'll
turn looked at that for stup. Is it some of not once people well
no, did not fill in. Yeah, yeah, told me as get
me interested with these people from the past suddenly wrote in their diary today I
saw a lady looking at me in clothes I've never seen before. Yeah,
yeah, always like yeah, exactly. Yeah. Now talking to the building
work, it reminds me of the story. And I had said this before,
but I'll recount in Actually don't know this story, barn, but it's
a story that I heard from a guy on a plane and I was going
out to Spain, and he sat next to me and recourse on this plane
going back to Spain. We yes, yes, I remember your yes,
Yeah, it was there's a lot of SPANDID game. So one of the
last guys to get on the plane, I thought it was a Spanish guys
and they announced on the tan. I wasn't about turning his phone to it
or this or something like that, and he goes, what was that?
I said, I had no clue. Sorry. So we got into this
little conversation, me and this guy and my son was here, lean's looking
out the window and this guy, I said that you know you're going on
holiday. There's no no he said, I'm from I live in London,
he said, but I'm originally from He said, I prefer to call it
PLU shot that. Yeah, you know, you would note stairs a ram.
He said, But I live in London. I'm an architect and I'm
going out to mamicus, so you check on some buildings. I'm running the
project for sort of thing. And I said, oh okay, So he
said what do you do. At the time, I lived in the Orkney
Islands, so we ran this fairy museum, stroke gallery, and so I
happened to have on my phone and photographs of the drawings I'd done, and
I said, here you go, this is sort of stuff I'm interesting.
So I showed him that sort of stuff, and I told him a few
of the weird stories that I'd researched. And what happened was as that he
then opened up a bit. And I don't think he would have opened up
had just been a roller. The mel guy as those And he said when
he was about eighteen or nineteen, he was conscripted into the Iranian army and
him and his army buddy walk in the streets at night in alarm. And
he said, a sending storm keeped that, and so they thought shelf and
they went into this mosque and you have to take your sees and bosom.
Yeah that's what they did. Yeah, that's what they did. And he
said to his army buddy, okay, you've got to sleep with your back
to the wall, or laid down and asked, sixth next to you.
I've got the gun, and I keep a lookout ready signs at trouble.
That's what I said. So okay, So that's what he did, and
he said, no, man hard he tried. This guy always called him
Hussey. He said he kept waking up, sorry, falling asleep, and
then waking up falling asleep and waking up. And the third time he fell
asleep and he woke must stay away, I must stay awake. The third
time he woke up, he said he noticed this lady crouching down and looking
him at the fet and there was a young girl next to this lady,
he said, about twelve thirteen years away, crouching down looking at his friend's
feet, and he thought, where the hell did they come from? So
tried to wake up his friend by pressing his elbow onto his friend's chest,
and he said them how hard he pressed his shoulder, sorry, his elbow
onto his friend's chest. His friend did wake up, so he said,
who's saying? He said, at that point, I decided I was going
to make a run for it. I thought, I don't know why he
was going to make his ear at the gun and decided to wrack the strap
of the gun around his arm. But he said that must have a chatted
the lady to look at it, and he said she in sudden looking at
his feet. She knoked it up and re set as soon as she looked
at me in the eye. He said, I knew that she wasn't from
this world. And he said, I felt a s would go down me,
and I just knew that she wasn't from this world. And he said,
at that point, the lady stood up, and the young girls stood
up, and they turned and they walked away. He said, as they
walked away, he noticed they both had colliverly coofed feet, in other words,
those of a gold cataws. He said, me has vanished into the
wall of the nuts. And when he told me that, the shivers went
up, and my spine, I can believe it. Oh my God,
has a wonder to the store. Tell them about the rain walk we would
over the fail est today. Well, yeah, we were so good the
picture. Yeah, I've got a whole bunch of high depthinicial pictures of the
ring. Yeah. And one thing that we discover is every single picture we
took the ring. At first I thought it was paradolia, and we've done
so much experimenting with it, we realized now I was a paradolia. Though
we we've tried different lightning techniques. But every single picture you take of the
rings, either on the bridge of it snows or in one of the eyes,
there are faces they wore, well, real big scary looking or creepy
faces that lil or men, women, yeah, on the sexist, but
on the nose, there's there's there's three different pictures on the lovels of three
different places. One of those faces that used ago. I took a photograph
and I noticed something something in the middle of evening with like till in the
night you phone, I'm very good baker, And there was this picture of
this post of with hair and a bit baked, right, And what one
of the pictures is that he took up the eye how pen because it's Paradonian
how penal place two years ago? Pen feed in the eye when it took
it in the nose. Mmm. You don't see the same face twice.
It's never ed sing to face call. And you would also get the same
kate of discoloration because of the silver or reel. It's not perfect, yeah,
because it's obviously all Yeah, and you know you would think if you
would take multiple pictures in the same spot, it's not carving in here.
It stay the same, but it changes. Yeah. Yeah, first I
thought it was reflecting me back because you'd say it had what mountain troubers food,
But yeah, this one, well, here here's a perfect example.
Okay, what came up with? What maybe the old will set us.
Yeah, uh huh yeah, let me shoot. Okay, that's a very
good picture. Yeah see this eye right here? Yeah okay, second would
be its stuff to eyes and buy a zoom in all the way. You
tell me what you see East Canadian by or with the two eyes down at
the bottom, I'm seeing it warm. Oh okay, well one hair see
the roll face you said, Well, we're looking at these two patches of
red at the bottom thinking they could be had. Oh you know what I
did, not said war, But they're always lots roll stones, the rubies.
Yeah, yeah, the roll stones fitted in so they're bulging. But
when we're looking to them like that, as we get into the depths of
hell, yeah, here's another bolts up over the bait. Yeah, I'm
going to zoom into the nose. Well yeah, it doesn't look like a
look at what you said, I'm it with an eye. Well yeah,
and all this looks like the mouth is open. Yeah, screen yeah,
screen by some aunt of give him a Tolro film. There's a guy that
did Pan's Labyrinth. You know there was a yeah, yeah it's it could
and all there's the boys. There's a picture that that's street yeah, painted,
yes, the mouth open, yeah yeah. This is the ring upside
down and that's the bridge top of the nose. But it looks like there's
another face set. Yeah yeah. But and it just keeps happening every time
we take a picture. The one amazes me as a part one of the
pictures. This is the same that icall in the notes. Yeah, y'all,
cigar, he's called the first of all bloke in the eye. Yeah.
So this scring is it? I remember you taught about in this scring
before the history history of the ring? Well yeah, I mean she acquired
it in Italy, Yeah, from someone she knew and who would he found
it? Retree movie. It used to be an old very old and we're
closed lived in living wish Yeah, and his family bought the house up this
Rikins lived in hanging on the parme he oldly close since the where the ring
lever dated belt m and his family fought the house after her a close side
and ringing all that eye and now he will kitch him this ring and there
was nothing ass and the ass but great on not no Iver thought they were
doing. He started having bad luck for the ring. Then Catholic, he
will him to the ring in him. Amazon looked ba up. So you
wouldn't buried it in the church sharp? Right? Yeah, in another chip
on soap buried little church chore worried the depth there ah somewhat or winter.
You'll let him me and tell me about it, for it's going to get
out. He said, no, said that won't be let up. You
know it's in the sacred place. It didn't let us lie there now for
a girls, I'm not going to get up. So we work a lot
for the church sharp and all the graves will ever say it had built cup
with a little to morrow they're all notice and flat, and all the GUIs
is down except one. It's worth the grass in the bit of the marlware
stick the eye, why you said? That's where it is a smaller helping
them all while we're going around the jump with this is top to glass.
You're right? Why was this top to guist is? Anyway? I started
pulling at the girls, trying to pull it out to dick as well were
to do. So he got this spade thing that he had and dug it
up. Well, dug the girls dug up. The rain took the ring.
It wasn't wrapped in it, looked at the ring and the brown than
he is a shiny and new no plan or not new looking, both shining,
and said it was he saw it yesterday. There was no belmark,
and it come through all those winters, all that bad yvon nothing on it.
So first he said, well, what was it given me? He
said, you can have it. He said that all that he said,
it's hebe, which so well, I've had it ever since. And he
took it to jewelry. Yeah, we took it to a journey or the
two of us. Yeah. The journal was an old Calgarian or somebody like
that Polynish that come on during the war and the Middle Old Land. And
he always kept his jewelry shop with lot which was very unusually forward. And
then windows it's not should yeah, but in the seventh said was very unusual
travel lockje in shops. He had something the bound to get in the abny
and he opened the door and I had to read one way, and so
it was something about this. He said, no, he told me to
go away anywhere. I kept assist all the system. Finally cut my feet
over the threshold of the door and he looked at the ready said, sold
his silver cup for one nugget of silver, he said, and may he
said it. I'm sure he said the eyes were rubies, but no,
I think they tho on it. We may have said full wanting someone.
It's a very very old Get out of my hands. You wop out of
my house. Wow, the other keeper get out of this shop at he
kicked us out the door and literally gets us out muggy door could get out
well, locked the door behind us and one lonely again my door. But
the actual shank of the ring was so was so thick. There's not much
stick of a little bit so thin. Yeah, right where it's been warmed
so much. Why there's worry about it breaking on the Zamil rings. So
I took it to Sammuels that Samuels is not about this old fool the area
in June, you know, I said, kin was just reshadowed this ring
for me. So they reshant it, and I said, resized it to
my size so I can wear it. So they've done that, and I
wore it in the age twent on one, I had it. My fingers
I was about eight stone and weight skinny. My fingers were skinny, right,
and that ring still fits my finger now a few stone heavier, my
fingers are a lot faster, but I won't trouble that ring. It gets
on easy, and when it's on and then just tightens sits out up fall
scabs alive. Sounded like the one Ring ward or maybe that's where they got
the idea for the one rings. Yeah. Well, we actually sent pictures
of it to the British Museum Abundant, trying to get an idea of Oh,
I don't know how old they thought it might be. Of course they're
looking at pictures about the actual ring, right, yeah, and you know
what, it could be a representation though, because let's face it, you
show it to any Christian, they're going to see them doll. Yeah,
because of the Borns Hooks New Year. For a while there, because it
was found in Italy, we thought it might have been a representation of Pan
or if yeah, yeah, then there was a Babylonian but yeah, what
one of the first civilizations. Yeah, there was an old god God.
Yeah, so if we thought it might have something you can do with that
f We don't really know now. The British Museum seeing the thing for ring
was almost forward about when a year old like cheap bits. Some of the
boats in the slice on Christopher Sonina right, ideas a lot over wild and
I think it fellus fun to see when it could be planned. I was
hoping it would be planned because he was born, I was born, what
is it born? It came from the Amorphy coast of Italy, but pomp
Post just down the roads. He and they found a bulled way when they
were excavating ruins. They found the stat land doing naughtie with the goats right
as you do. Yeah, yeah, which is get cloven heat. So
people walking through really, but I don't know so much now for be Almond,
which is Egyptian. No, like if there was a sublization that came
up, Will Grace and they and where they started a setting south officially right,
So I gave them a local nitta. Maybe he could do an image
sir. We had well not not tread an image search, but I could
try that. We've tried finding other similar see there's another ring out there like
that at all. Yeah, and there's some modern ones that are looked just
so cheesy. Yeah, and it's but nothing historian the British Museum turned around
and told bab but some they did anything else panned and that my first so
because I wrote to them in last a movie for a big pan was that
A friend of mine says, it's a demon? Can it be paddle?
Is it demon? Listen? They don't think kids pan. Maybe your friend's
right. We think with kids, have you is a few years with it
is? Some of the z is out. Wow, that's it, hund,
that's what they said. Well, someone elses tollunch guy the knight chows
in. Tight it to the knights. When you say in this say so
that's the next mission. Then well, and here's the thing. Here's on
this culture. Look how asymmetrical the basis cutting down that the center. Yeah,
on this side over here, it's a smaller beard full night. The
eye is furthered down. Yeah. If you covered up half the face,
it looks almost it's almost like those little faces like for theater. Yeah,
for a comedy in Granma. You cover half of it, it looks one
way, but then when you look at the other half, you get more
of the full beard near it sticks out farther there's more of a grimace on
the face. Lunen it. So each side of the face is showing off
a different verson like one one good one either and Seas didn't he I think
he's neither. I think he just is. Oh, it's just like a
mischief. He didn't think about it. I agree for mischief. Talk about
diving. Yeah, maybe open the safe door. Well there's some type of
thing sound self and safe door that sounds up on the wall, point the
safe door and there you go. Didn't jump out. He's got a life
of his army. Yeah, Godi of the safe Oh yeah, I mean
we feel there's some kind of some kind of attachute. Yeah. And he
said it was a sound on an iron nails, and they particularly use iron
in in Uh, but I don't thember clean a. That's a thing that
when Sir Scot Snow Philip kin Seller, I was invited to go that into
this house. People having a lot of bad luck. This lady of going
to die. Their son have died in mus like that. And Philip and
the old lady and a group of their friends were doing a sort of I
don't know what you'd call it, but then try I exercise a place or
something. But they're in He was banging nails into the ground, iron nails
that have been specially made for it in his cunning space in meat and they
said there's something to do with the water nearby and lay lines. Yeah yeah.
And so that was iron nails and they've been specifically made for this job.
They didn't just go and buy them. Yeah, the iron nails.
So yon have come down our nails and it's it's don't go that root.
And then I hear centeries don't buy iron. You would like my house because
green as I talked to carry Green the one, Oh yeah yeah. About
the trees in the garble go, I'm the older your tree. He got
horseauce trees placed in corners. They've got our holly horselorn hedges. This us
all to do with witches and faith. Yeah yeah, let's see it except
take the evil way out of the house. Yeah. That and on the
minister, Yeah, he get deacon in the chapel on the row. Maybe
fossment used to beIN tried making lar same respects. And somewhere somewhere was a
poll shilling that he might one worth wis there's where will we think in the
farmer at the bottom, because he's coming or he's what used to come and
visit he took way with bright really motion you know what g on the limb
and and the picture we got at Hub out the window. I took a
photogra of one day right and we're not long moved in. My son Bud
leave our first pig can camera. So I went out and Rome took a
photos off for the house from the roads. And then when I zoomed it
to the window, this is what Bryan's talker. Hub was looking out at
the window and thought there used to be neck the a bag room window.
Yeah, by window there and the curtains are formed slightly to the side.
Herbert's cooking out carrying down into the corner of the guard wall and the Veilbert
that that particularly day I took the cartographs, there was no one in the
house. Beha was in London. Is no wild Martha, Mum, she
she was in the land. No should be her the heat and said doll
in the lounge. Yeah, smart in your mouth, but it's interested in
all these ghosts always appearing doorways and windows. I don't know if I feelways
whenever I talked to fight about what I was mas Wind. That goes back
into our theory of the ring. We never finished, which is, oh,
yeah, this is a theory you come up in the theory that struck
me yesterday seeing all these spaces. I don't believe we're seeing spaces of spirits.
I don't necessarily think we're seeing the faces and demons. Yeah, I
don't think it's spaces. She thought, maybe it's it was showing faces of
people it's interacting with over the year. I think it's it's a kind in
a way, it's kind of a pool. It's showing you and images of
people living in other friend yeah, or in other dimensions. It's like giving
you a snapshot photo of other people or other creatures or humanoid like preachers.
But she also fit maybe Lessia will Yeah, yeah, so it's it's it's
fascinating. And again it's every picture that's soughing different. Yeah, there's always
something there every picture. And you would think that if it was a trick
of the light and you for taking the picture, the same thing would appear
at each time. Yeah, you know, if you're not moving to the
same angle, everything should be the same. And it's obviously yeah yeah.
So uh, and that's about a big theme of mind lately with research.
I'm going to is very, very interested in the whole injured dimensional aspecting because
a lot of research being done right now, like all the show Secret Skywalker
Ranch where they are pretty much smothing that there is some type of bortle worm
ball on the property right where things are able to go in out of.
And I think it's a good explanation most types of paratorial activity. You know,
I don't necessarily believe there's ghosts of spirits who haven't crossed over just hanging
yep. Yeah, but if you're seeing like the woman Irene saw, a
time slip, it's part of all time is happening at once, and you
leave it have not only just all time and this plane that there could be
other planes and realities that have existence. Yeah, that could bleed over into
arts. So I think that's what shall I Now, there's an interesting thing.
I've seen it all Murray's programs. Might being a ands ancient aliens and
in might be in South America might be perused as a slight mountainside where there's
this section of the wolf if you want to call it, the wall,
the fat side of the mountain where the local is sek al wall. Whoever
they were ancient people cars almost like a doorway into yeah. Yeah, and
the locals. That's in Peru, Yeah, added Brian Forrester, who runs
the Cousco Museum and he's very big into all him. Yes, we did,
yes, Neolithic locations all around the world and he's been there several times.
And this squared faraway which is again not perfectly symmetrical. And even in
the doorway there's an impression night in the center. Now the local shamans will
go in there and do ritual, yeah whatever, but it's considered to be
a portal. Yeah. Yeah. And this is why mice theory is that
when people see spirits a lot of the time they appeared to be standing in
doorway because I think the doorway acts like a trans cabinet in a medium sales
travel of people. Yeah, I don't. We're indoorways, yeah, people
man in the acts. Yeah, they're always indoorways looking at And then it
brings us back to stone ange because you've got doorways. Yeah, there's somebody
with stone engine a reason, because why people yeah, why do always really
signation struggle with all their effort and time of stuff to put these bloody huge
stones. Oh you know, it's surely got better things to do. But
that's always extreme importance to sell reason, isn't it. So uh yeah,
maybe they're as when the show starts and it goings from around the backing.
Yeah, yep, yeah, I stop. Yeah, that's it rounded off
Barry. Yeah, so this is why you got all these people like like
you know, keep looking beneath the layas the English heriage. You can't all
this all this stuff. Yeah, it's not just that look pretty that stuff?
Is that for a reason? Yeah, there were all tools and some
kind Yeah, you know. So they're aligned astronomically and they think, oh
well it's a calendar in stone, but it's a lot more than boom.
It's what we talk about with the vibrations being in certain locations and maybe they
they do work as types of portals or like the pyramids in Egypt, the
three big pyramids thought to be some types of power poets, yeah, producing
energy. Brian Forster was investigating there's the one pyramid south of where the geesea
plateau Caramansas. There's this other step pyramid like I forget how far south it
is, but it looks like it's what it looks floated. It's it's destroyed
in such a way like it looks like it had a mini the show up
many flution that something might have happened maybe and these things worked power plants,
yeah, as an active Yeah, their own chinnoogles. Yeah, see without
safety inspectus. So we're gonna have to wrap this up. But thank you
everybody for listening to our little pub chat here being okay radio yeah, apparent
the UK radio network. I'm not sure which program this is gonna go out
on, but josephs now Worth, we're actually going to record our arms two
times. Cool. We're gonna do our own show later this week in the
house, you know, so we'll be sitting side by side. Yeah,
that's brilliant. Yeah, we'll be getting pissed while we're recording with show.
It's around shower and you have to edit it down and down for five minutes.
We're not involving and missing around okay. So that's the end of the
show. Thank you for listening, Sugar, No sorry. So towards the
end of the week, we went to the Men'swarms for a meal and there
we found out that the pub was actually haunted. Yeah, how cool.
She all is pricked up didn't they more, Yes they did. He pricked
up. I'm all you're talking, explain what was happening to the ball.
Well, we we were at this first of all, this pub. We
were talking with some of the staff, and then eventually the owner Glynn Barretts
Bennetts, I'm sorry, Glynn Bennetts, and the pub goes back. They
trace it back to the early eighteen hundreds, but they think it's a lot
old and it is everything that you would ever want in an old British or
in this case Welsh pub, the stonework, all the old heartifacts, a
great atmosphere, bloody, brilliant food, Nike stem claws. Yea, the
food was to die for. We had such a lovely meal. And while
we were sitting there eating, we were talking to the bartender, Joline,
and she was talking about some of the activity that they had, their glasses
flying off the shelf and breaking clipboard that was caught moving on video and we
got to visually see all this video footage the owner showed us. But while
we were sitting there, they had a line of glass mugs on hooks above
the bar, and all of a sudden, two of them on their own
started swinging wildly back and forth. Now the one stopped, but the other
kept going. For a few minutes. I kept going lolder than that.
It just kept going. Yeah, I thought it would never stop anyway.
So out of this came an investigation. Yes it did. So on Friday
night we went and we did an investigation of the whole pub. We again
have lots of evidence to go through. But we also had a sit down
with the owner, Glenn Dennett's, and he was talking about the history of
the pub, their experiences. Very very nice gentleman in fact idorm. I
think he is really really super sweet and fact, the whole staff everybody there
treated us kindly. We cannot rave enough about the marin Arms men selarm mansil
Arms out now mantel Arms Pub over eaten my bed done in south west wal
There we girl. So here's our interview with Glenn about his pub. All
right, this is Mark and Irene and we are in the Mental Arms pub
here in dre Facil. What any washman has just got to kill you for
saying that I'm a bloody What do you expect I'm always going to butch your
face? But anyway, and why I was I was people for fact is
Welsh for small town. Then interesting here well, we are here with the
owner of the Mental Arms, Glenn Bennetts. Now I'm Glenn. How long
have you owned this pub? Five years? Twenty eighteen. We moved in
here in julyge thirty first. It's been in the trade for quite a while
and we saw his place and men a wife came here and just got fealing
for the place. It's a lovely old traditional pub, you know, tiled
floors, stone walls, very old and we just fell in love with it.
Now now you currently live here on the lines too as well. Yeah,
okay, so did you what did you know about the history of the
pub when you're buy it, or that you know it was haunted? I
never The previous landlord and lady are spoken to previously and they didn't pick up
or really see or hear anything. But we have quite a lot of activity
and strange things happening. I since we've been here, from the first week
of moving in, things of a kitchen have happened. Yeah it should,
welpen would just happened in my house. Quite a few strange things and not
just me, but my my wife and my kids as well. You know,
my boy's bedroom is literally just above us here and he hears so much
sometimes going on Dad who comes through and wakes me up because in the middle
of the guard over night, earlier hours, fuds and bangs and he's nineteen
year old kickboxer and he says, Dad, come check downstairs for pipers.
There's a lot. It sounds like there's a herd of elephants down there,
you know, and you do you know, get a lot of different things
happening here. Yeah, so the age of the pub, you're not one
because the paperwork give a day eighteen o nine, but it's definitely older.
Yeah, he's definitely older than nap. There's a old coaching in and so
the road which we're on, how not a new road which the cars are
on, but the old road was who stepped out the front door and that
was the road. Now there's the old coaching road from the fish Guard to
London and London to fish Guard and we are This is part of the banker
mansell the states yea hen Mansel arms sort of the pubber ritin it came with
the barns if we've still got and then a couple of fields over the road
so as people come on a journey, I stop offered the coaching him,
have something to eat, a few ales, wrestle horses, graze of horses,
crash over night, and then carry on with a journey. It used
to be quite a big estate. Bank of mans got a man's family,
so yeah, we saw a lot of the mansell graves up at part markham
Castle. It's an interesting location. As well as saying to you the other
day as our old tate a old church or chackle up the road, I'd
like to say that five hundred yards away in it's it's actually in the Doomsday
booking the Vatican as having healing properties in the water which which flows through it.
It's pretty much a ruins now. I still make out of a bow
tower where the bow was and with the fall wall, but the rest of
it is pretty much ruined. But yeah, have you have you ever seen
it? Yeah, I've been one of our regulars, Mark Griffiths on his
fall. So see at some point I'd love to see that. It's we
still got the water coming out of the war. Yeah. So that church
it was a church, was it? Yeah? That church was actually involved
with the hangings that took place here in the bowl we did. I've got
no evidence of the hangings, but I have had The Spiritualist church came out
story and they brought the story up to me, which fled trace back that
the priest from the church somehow affiliating quite a nasty fellow and Judge Jewry and
execution at the time, and of Judge Jeffries time. Yeah, and he
ended up actually hanging three people in the barn. You don't know what for,
no idea, but apparently quite they were kids, they weren't they were
key, Yeah, they were younger. They wouldn't they wouldn't grown men.
So this this is a story that's been given by their mediums and spiritualists.
Race is a bit of fake row around the air, as people have talked
about. But yeah, apparently wasn't a very nice man. But you used
to frequent the pub on a regular basis, Yeah, little little devil,
and down in the actual seller you were telling us about the fact that you
hear children's children's voices and laughter. There have a few different things go on
in the cellar. So all our beer is to spent for the beer fees
on the bar, and that gets from the cellar to the bar is pumped
by CO two gas. Yeah, and we could be on the bar pour
and a pint and rules them a beer stops running. So I ran out
change a barrel. You go downstairs and the gas has just been switched off.
It's a full gas canister there. And sometimes that will happen. It
happen for a space of five ten minutes where you'll be up and down and
now turning the gas on and off, and there's no reason why gas is
going to concern itself on and off. We have gone down to a salah
before and there's a Greek of about six of us down and it was crystal
clear. It was I could hear him as I can hear you. It
was. There must have been seven or eight children feeling you could hear the
footsteps and down the stairs. And it went on not for a lot,
only for about ten seconds, but it was clear as day. And we
all sort of looked each other and was like did you hear? Did you
hear? And every single one own net and how on go was this two
years ago? Two years ago? About two years ago? Can we've got
a goos to recorder down and leave it down there for my tuble ten minutes
and not a problem. A problem. There's quite a bad feeling down in
the salad. I wonder more children would be in the cellar. Yeah,
limickers probably wouldn't welcome to put put any device down there. Yeah, I
have a night vision camera. We put it down there in the dark.
What do you mean there's a bad feeling down there. It's a lovely saller.
It's one of the reasons I bought the pub. I'm big into my
real ales and if you can find a really nice underground, nice shooe mids
cellar, it keeps you fear a real talk condition and for me that was
a selling point. And it's a lovely room. It's it's under it around,
got a nice stone arshed roof to it. It's not the biggest place,
but it suits my knees down to the ground well. As you go
down the steps and you look to the far side of the cellar where you
drop your beer up and down. Or a few occasions I have seen I
don't know what I've seen, but something caught my eye, whether it's a
shadow or something something dark and scary which maybe you not want to go over
there. It was on the far side of that, sammon Ah, that'd
be interesting. He's mine or I really love those. Yeah yeah, and
you'll feel it. And I know that the people say about the temperature change
when and when you do down cellar, it is colder. The calenus cellar
is kept cold, is kept around eleven degrees because that's the temperature you store
your beer out down there. But you still not every time ago down.
Occasionally you can only still get a cold shiver. And it's nothing to do
with the eleven degrees of a temperature. Is because you don'ts walked over my
grave and you sort yeah, yeah, I'll have a little sugar like that
down you spot. I get that when I'm at the far side niver barrel
drop. Yeah. Now you've showed us some of the security video of some
glasses flying out from under the body. Yeah. Yeah. It happens on
a regular basis, really like glasses like glass bill is quite expensive. Probably
go through fifty wine glasses a year, and it always seems to be the
wine glasses. I don't know why. It's not the point pots it's it's
the wine glasses we've seem to get broken or regular basis and I've caught it
lookally once on camera and it's like the glass comes off and hovers and then
falls, and then another one shoots straight across the floor and it doesn't fall,
it's pushed. It's throne. Thesel glasses over, they low down.
Two shows up, So who shoves up about two and our three foot off
the floor. Yeah, it could be children and the staff like Oldsby show.
You know, he's broken a wine glass and it wasn't me. It
wasn't me. And check the CCTV. You know, we've had the folders
on the side out the back. Just I've got that on CCTV. We've
had one of the folders. This clipboard just moves, slides across the counter
and falls off onto the floor. And and I've been nearest person's fore foot
away from here, and I the glasses which are hanging with ornamental glasses which
are hanging on the hooks above the bar. Sometimes you'd just be sat down
and they'll start rocking. Yeah we saw that. Yeah, we actually recorded
that on the other day and we're here that one glass, the third from
the end. It was just and it just kept going and it's got I'll
slowing down it's not a constant speed. Sometimes it will speed up and got
really really fast and man into the glasses. He decided of it when ye
down, then speed up. You know it's it is quite interesting with the
glasses above. Yeah, it's fascinating activity here. Well, it's all.
Yeah, we've trying to feel of the things which we pack the piano four
or five times. I'm not saying it's played a chune, because it hasn't
played a chune, but it's played some Dorset notes and we've been set out
here normal unlocked all had a couple of beers and all of a sudden almost
like a drawlsphen tune, but it's like a distorted version with completely out of
tune, and it'll last for not on seconds behind maximum forty seconds and you'll
time you get up and run to see what's going on. It stopped the
palm. We've had the bow. I actually took the ball off, but
we had the bow which we used to call time that would bring by itself
on a regular basis, life is in the kitchen. I took it off
a few months ago because yeah, I'd be busy doing silver and the bow
would run. I'd come out to see who was there, and no one
here, no one here. And it was a regular, you know,
two three times a week. You know, it's normally when I'm busier.
So I've been kitchen prepping for service in the evening before we opened the pub.
In the bow Wood story, he's come into the pub now and come
back out and there's nobody here but the bow run. Do you children,
how old are your chrouble? We've got nineteen year old, an eleven year
old girl and a fifteen year old. They even good bothered the younger ones.
Nothing ever happens upstairs. Nothing I've not without anything, and they've been
that in the here. Does they ever give not feelings? You know,
not not as such. No, it's more of a commotion. We're upstairs
between here downstairs. You don't, really, they don't. My daughts never
come to me and fought or heard or seen anything in never rings at all
when they come downstairs, just for usual stuff. But you know, just
what you come to live with you you don't. After a certain time you
stop looking for this becomes part of a normal. It's another wine rass is
broken. One we go, oh this is happen. You just you just
almost make fun of it to a certainly standard. Yeah, and it just
becomes part of your you know, you don't look out free. It just
becomes part of it. But you know there's part of a feeling of a
do you ever get a sense of well, well, here's another question.
Do you ever get nightmares? You're ever having dreams? Has seen out of
place? Like you're dreaming of a different time. I don't really dream,
but I do get a lot of disturbed sleep. And because he's not really
a dream, it's like a half and half, almost like a day dream
where okay, I couldn't tell you what the dream was about or what I
was thinking about, but Simming's disturbed me and my wife would cut it.
Last night she was she found me sat on the actually the bed twice.
I was going to bed to sleep, and then twice I was actually sat
on the edge of the bed. You remember, there no m to this
interesting siocusting. But if it was I dreamed, I got no idea.
I can't remember. You know, I don't know nothing about it. But
you actually rolled over and twice you have to stroke my back and love me
back on the mead And that was it, And that happens. Do you
ever get the feeling you're being watched? Oh? Yeah, yeah. I
used to clean my lines on a Tuesday night. Quiet night. Tuesday normally
puts a bit earlier, so I could lock up a bit earlier and clean
on my lines. Fore and uh, I just don't at that time anymore.
No, I had a couple of times that happened to me a black
figure. I was doing the lines and this was being late. Yeah,
it's something we've passed. Where we sat now is part of one room with
a pillar in it. This used to be two separate rooms. Was different
by design. You know, the bar wasn't there. The bar was in
the kitchen. I was a serving hatch which he came through. This was
a separate, private functional room. Say that was a separate room. The
bar was a separate room, and a dispensing was done in the kitchen,
probably out of cass and jugs, and passed through that hatch. And I
was on the bar cleaning and for lines out cloud one o'clock in the morning
and planned it before about it being a sectary of time. But swimming swayed
past me at the corner of my eye, and you know it styled me
scared, I tapp it startled me and I then finished off doing the likes
at a quicker BASSI. I was speaking to some of the customers about even
next day A customers a bad different sensors and female when we got baber blessed
me passed away. Now we first me he was. He came with the
pub and the stories which he used to tell me about any things which he
used to experience. See her, I'm always you know this happened mass line
or glim this after mass light, and there was always something which if he
could pick up on. But you've heard children laughing, you heard coming up
in another stair, has been ever heard a voice anybody call your name?
Anything? Nothing like now and nothing like that. And you get these feelings
of some evil presence in the celibate. Not here, not I'll pay.
When did you say is the most active place besides the bar? It demands
null. I don't know what the history of the snug is in relation to
the thing, but some Christomers do see things in the snow, are saying
to some one saw there's asked me if you can get ghost dogs, because
every time they walk they see something like a dog sort of sack guarding for
corner to your left. As you walk into it, you do get quite
a bit not it's not different to move in here. But you'll always say
that they can not finity sounds or spoken were but like a whisper, mutual
whispering, and these sounds as opposed to actually anything, they can clearly make
out and feelings. Obviously people, you know, you'll get a draft,
but then it's an old pub, so it could be a draft coming from
you know. It's it's all those kinds of things I suppose in this room
here. Yeah, it's all right, just moved it did from very over.
Really, see if I saw someone just gone past me, that's why.
Interesting. Yeah. So the food here is absolutely fantastic and could admit
that really enjoyed that meal the other very much, and they did it tomorrow.
Yeah, even may have to do that. Like beef is l stounding
a right opinion? Oh yes, sir, where'd you get your nuts from?
Well? You know this is this is what I will also say is
the fact that anybody visiting the specially come from the States and come over to
the man swarms Paul Ravod for three Yeah, and Southwest Wales. You've got
to come for the food. You really have got to come for the food
if nothing else. Okay, is it's a lot of fun, isn't it
to maybe bump into a ghost or something fret a ghost in adult if you
want that ancient if you want that ancient English Welsh pub feeling, you've come
here because the decor is perfect. It's what I consider a pub coming from
the States and the tech. It was good. Yeah, this is good.
Food is awesome. The drinks, the drinks are great. So yes,
definitely number the mental arms. Glenn, thank you very much for your
time here, and we are about to start our investigation, which we will
summarize later on in this uh in this show, so everyone, we will
be back and we'll let you know what we find. So that was our
interview with Glenn Bennett's and I will say this, while we still have a
lot of review to do on all of our audio and video recordings, we
did have a couple of experiences at the pub, so it wasn't a lot
of activity that we experienced personally, but we know that we caught already some
incredible visual evidence, like God knows what's on the rest of it, and
until you start going through it, we're not gonna know. I know,
I'm sure there's a little all. I have an eight hour flight home,
so I've got to have my laptop in front of me and I'm going to
be viewing footage all the way home to see what else we caught. But
we did capture a couple of very interesting light anomalies. I think for me,
the most incredible capture that we got so far was the mist. Yeah,
there was a mist. It was this big mist that just floated by
sideways. And I feel the best saying that if the so far hasty moaning
the moon. Yes, and I caught that in the back of the pub.
I was sitting back there by myself. I didn't hear it at the
time. It was when I played the audio back. There's this guttural mode.
It seems to be a cross between a groun and the loan. Yeah,
almost animal like, almost human like. I can't really explain it.
So yeah, so we have lots to go through. When we do,
we'll be putting it up on our website at the Supernatural Research dot Net and
of course parent normally UK Radio Network page. Yeah, maybe YouTube Hello.
Actually, yeah, we'll be posting it everywhere. So but that's not the
end of our adventures because staying in this house, irene Are always told me
over the years that there are spirits in this house, spirits of the former
owner were going back to the early nineteen hundreds, to some things that seemed
to wander through. And this week we've had our share of a few exterior
experiences like we had. Her niece was over one night and they were interested
in the paranormal, so we were showing them some equipment allowing them to try
to record some EVP, and we were sitting in the guest bedroom, which
is where I sleep, and all of a sudden, I actually saw with
my eyes a light appear on the pillow behind them. Their backs were to
it, so they didn't see it. I didn't have my camera pointed at
it at the time. It happened so quickly. It last about a second,
but it was a bright pin point of light. It was like suddenly
appeared and then it disappeared, which I found it interesting. There was another
night I was lying there trying to sleep, and all of a sudden I
started getting that sensation that I was not alone in the room, I had
that fight or flight kind of sensation, and it freaked me out a little
bit, but I tried ignoring it and eventually it went away and I went
to sleep, and yeahs that's saying in the bathroom. Oh yeah, when
I got poked in the bone twice, but twice, I was sitting there
brushing my teeth and it felt like standing at the standing at the sink,
brushing my teeth, and it literally felt like somebody took their finger and poked
me in my left cheek twice. Boom boom, And of course I turned
around, nothing was there. We've had some phantoms smells, yeah, smells
still in the house. And then the other night you felt like you've had
something in your face. Oh yeah, that's the stinky ghost. That really
was, and that's not one of mine. I don't know what I tolt.
That was the day we went to the cemetery that hardly felts. Yes,
and maybe it may have followed us back mark. It might have,
But it smelled like old, stuffy clothes. It was a horrible smill that's
smelly, dusty, stale clothes. And it was light in my face most
of the night because I couldn't do anything about it because I didn't want to
wake you up, so I thought you'd be asleep, so I didn't want
to wake you up. But has taken itself off nerve, So I'm quite
happy by that. It's not hanging around anymore, says she. We've got
a bed to night and it would be in my face again, and as
I told you, if it happens, I don't care wake me up.
But the other smells when we had burning smell, which obviously is one of
my ghosts. He had a full journal the properties, so you always get
this oily burning smell when he comes into the bedroom or any think, so
it must be all the smell must be in life. It would have been
on his clothes. Well, we do you smell something in the hall light?
I smelled something kind of rancid in the hallway. I didn't know what
it smelled. I mean, the only comparison I can do, and nobody
in this house does this. It almost smelled like somebody was smoking marijuana.
It had that pungent oh to it, and I thought maybe it was a
cleaner or something, or maybe one of the dogs did something but smoke marouan.
But they I read it. Her husband Brian came out and they smelled
it, and they they all smelled it, and then there was another smell.
Let the open the bedroom. Now I can't remember whether it smell was
do you that was a prete tree sell on it? And no, no,
it was different. It was a different smell. Oh, and I
think I walked in the bathroom also, and I thought I smelled the floral
smell at one point, which which wasn't the air freshener bays. Thing has
happened were and usually the smells of there and two realized what they are and
then they just disappear. Yeah. Gone, I haven't smelled any of those
smells since that was midweek. Yeah. So the house has behaved itself.
It really has behaved. It seth. I'm quite proud of it. It
didn't do anything to terrorize you, which I was hoping it wouldn't. I
was hoping it would. Well, yeah, yeah, mister bravely. Anyway,
you know, it was quite well behaved. But there you go.
Well that I still good tonight to go through it yet. Yeah, I've
got one more night. I've got to wake up real early in the morning
to get driven down to Cardiff and catch my flight first to Amsterdam. I
have to go east before I can come west, so that'll be a very
long day. But again it gives me the opportunity to go through all of
our footage. And you talked about at the beginning of that. When you
first come down here, one of the first things are presented, all put
on new was the ring. Yes, well, I can tell you right
now I am actually wearing the ring, which we have nicknamed the Demon Ring
of a Malfatana. We've discussed this ring in numerous shows in the past.
Its history goes back a long way, and the artwork on this is phenomenal.
Now, one of the things we did was when we first got when
I first got here, we took the ring and we started taking a lot
of high definition quality photos of it. And what did we find irene faces
in the ring, in the eyes, the faces, the eyes, the
nose especially. Now here's the thing. Most people would try to dismiss what
we saw as paradolia. I'm going to sit here and tell you we photographed
this ring several times from several different several different angles, from the same angle,
and the images that appeared in the ring changed. It's tightening up on
my finger right now, you see a little bit. Yeah, so I'm
sorry about that, but he is. No, that's fine. I don't
want to come up. But the point is you're out of the three stone
fall. No, we're not worn that fall and half maybe if stone heavier
than me, I wear it on the same finger that one. Yeah,
my fingers are nothing like yours. And yet he's fitted your finger. I've
admits any one's finger that able speak. I have man hands. Yeah,
but he doesn't. It looks to me like he he will all tree some
ice to the person who's going to put him on, and then when he's
own there, if he likes you, he will tighten and you'll have a
job getting him up. Yeah. But the point is, oh yeah we
do now, Yeah, you welcome off. The point is right over a
year ago, I took the photograph and in the reflection of his nose was
a man's face. Paradolia, That's what I put it down to when I
put it out on Facebook. But it was a man's face and I had
a mop of dark hair. Now, this week we've been taking photographs,
has been all these different faces in the nose in the right eye of the
ring. But then with the photographed the left eye, and the man from
a year ago that was reflecting through the silver on the nose was in the
right eye. Now, word that one ill, that's not paradolia. How
does this image taken a year ago reflect from a different and part of the
ray like it's looking at the allne And then when you're also when you were
taking the photographs of the eye, it was like, now these as are
protruding rubies or garnets right curved, yes, curved curved stones. But when
you actually look at a photograph, it's like you're going through a cave with
d like deep into an underground cave. Another world you're looking into. Yeah,
yeah, one theory. I just blurted out, not saying that this
is what I believe in any way. Did to end up on you?
Yeah, I like this. He slid off earlier and now I have to
really tug and twist him if I'm going and get him up. But it's
not too tight either. It's funny it will be. It's kind of like
the one ring in the Lord of the Rings movies, how it always changed
sizes for the wearer. That's exactly what this ring does. You know,
I often wonder whether they got that idea from this ring. Maybe my repose
all in the ring or something could be. But here's someone. I note.
Each image that we caught in the ring was either actual full people's faces,
sometimes their whole upper torso body. There's a woman with long hair.
You could see her upper torso, couldn't really tell exactly what she was wearing,
but it was a normal human face. And then there were times we
got these dogging, twisted guardoyl demonic almost kind of faces. And I don't
really think that, you know, some people they looked at this, if
they looked at those photos, they might think, oh, you're seeing demons
and hell. But the one thing about this ring, and we've done a
lot of research on this ring, and even though the face it has Ram's
horn, big long nose and chin, big whiskers on it, wet thoughts
since it was found in Italy, it might have been a representation of Pan
And then we research going back even further, two different types of old gods
worshiped that had rams horns. There was one from who was the Babylonians or
who was it? You mentioned what was the name of that. I'm a
mascul I'll have to It's on our page. We actually have a big write
up on our Facebook page to Demon Ring of Amafton it, we put more
of the history of the Ring there. Just don't remember it off the top
of my head. But I got this impression that we're seeing in the Ring
the reflections is not so much representations of evil spirits or demons or whatnot hell,
but maybe other dimensions, other realities, people in other places, because
some are all twisted and looked like it could be evil, Others look like
regular people. Others it was just strange, hard to explain, very hard
to explain. But we'll be posting some of these photos on our Facebook page,
the Demon ringom of Malfa Thomas, So please check it out on Facebook
and you could see the newest pictures and let us know for yourself what you
think. Again, some people come back and say it's just paradolia. That's
fine, it's impossible, you know. We're not ruling that out. But
we do find these faces to be very defined and very strange. Oh so
now he needs to go back look at this. She won't come off my
rate. I'm pulling straight. He won't come off. I haven't you have
to fool him more. Thank you, by the way, a little tongue
like you. You've come back in this safe. There's a in there.
Oh good lord. So these ten days have gone by way too fast,
way too quick. But rest assured. I will be making more trips out
here very soon. I do love this country, and chris My, you
love these people. Well, the people are all right kind. I'm annoying,
really, you know. Oh no, I've thoroughly enjoyed being here with
Irene and her husband, and they welcome me with open arms, treated me
like royalty while I was here. So I'm gonna miss steing here, miss
miss it very much. Then we go back to the old routine us talking
on the skype. You've had a lot of experiences in different food Jujo on
roast dinner today. Well I did, yes, the big, big Sunday
roast dinner, which is a tradition over here. And then I also had
a traditional English fry up breakfast. Yeah you did, Yep, that was
that was interesting as well. But I will say here's something and don't get
offended by this. I've had people always tell me the food over here is
horrible. Everybody always says that I can tell you right now that that's Bologney,
because I don't think I've had anything terrible since i've been here. The
food has been great. The countryside is incredible. You know in America everything
is separated with fences. Yeah, wooden fences, stone walls. Who have
everything. I love that the hedge rows in both England and Wales that I'm
seen so far, that separates properties and whatnot. Everywhere's hedgerows and dotting the
countryside, even looking out the back window here into Irene's garden, which is
absolutely love. Late we've had some tea outside in the garden a couple of
the sunny days we've had. It's been very wet weather on otherwise, but
it's a very beautiful sight. The only thing I'm gonna miss is in the
fall hearing the Welsh Bigfoot, the traymore screamed from down from the hills.
Yeah, so yes to Helen. So that's been my trip over here to
the UK, my very first trip. I've had a phenomenal time. Said
wow more times than Irene could count. I wish I had a pound for
every time you did say wow. You'd be very rich. It would be
very rich. Wow Wow Wow. Looking at wow the leg I said,
I am very much looking forward to coming back soon because I enjoyed it so
much, and of course I love being here with you and Brian, and
I've have a wide open future ahead of me. Thank oh God, I've
thoroughly enjoyed this. It's the main thing, that's all we want it.
So thank you all for tuning into this very special edition of the Paranormal UK
Radio Show, the flagship show here on the Paranormal Radio. No Paranormal UK
Radio in it or I almost blew it that time. Usually you haven't want
to blow Oh makes a change for you to be the lasted too long,
it's it's done a lot. Well. How many times have I misnamed the
massile arms man so arms. If you want to come and eat somewhere really
fantastic in this country, the man so alms. We'll be put in the
address on the website and a telephone number in case you want to a table.
Yes, Plus they have lots of good spirits, both the beverage kind
and ghost and off the ghostly colline. Yes, indeed of the ghostly kind.
Plus also entertainment. Yes, absolutely lovely, lovely people, very lovely
people. Actually, Irene got to see me dance very badly. Lastly I
have to most badly too, not as bad as me. I was doing
the White Man overbite. Oh good lord. Well everybody again, thank you
for tuning in, and what other thing? Okay, go ahead. In
the future, if they're looking for me, they'll be able to find me
at the mansalarms Port River in southwest Wales. That she'll be there having her
wine and tonic lemon in a glass of ice. That's twice twice slightly lemon.
Yes, I seistize. Okay everyone, we will be back next week
with one of our regular shows. So you all have a wonderful week and
wish me a safe flight home and we will catch you next time. Be
good humans and have a great evening. We'll talk to you so bye.