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Let's he from out the impossible.
Whatever I mate, However, the improbable

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must be true. And it is
not a question of the impertism. What

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a touch of mysticism is together it
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helipts, thy fathers, spiry to
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The old gods aren't dead? And
what is the true god? He's

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dead calco plain. People assume the
time is a strict progression of cause to

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effect, but actually from a nonlinear, non subjective viewpoint, it's more like

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a big ball of wibbly wobbly timeyimy
stuff. You're listening to Paranormal UK Radio.

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Hi, everybody, This des Irene
Allan from the Paranormal or UK Radio

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Show, the flagship show to the
Paranormal or UK Radio Network. And I'm

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sitting here at the moment in my
home dining room, right across the table

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from someone that's flown all the way
over the pond just to do a show

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and have a look around a beautiful
country. Mark Johnson, Hello, here

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we are. Do you know it's
so Austrange's sitting opposite you are on the

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table or the desk or whatever you
want. To call this and actually doing

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a show instead of you being boy
over there how many miles away? Three

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thousand something kind of miles. I
don't know further than that, I believe

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maybe yeah, well out of reach
of me. But where you are now,

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I can clip you around the air
bat my ears a bait if I

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get out of mine. I saw
anything said now you'll gotta get to it

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now. This is an absolute treat
for me. First of all, it's

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my first time being all the way
across the Atlantic, across the pond,

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over here in the UK, spending
time here in Irene's home for the entire

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week. Got She's had me for
ten days and she hasn't killed me yet

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killed me. But what I find
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Irene and I have been working together
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we are, finally in the flesh, in the same we will give,

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the same room. You know.
It's some people could have called this the

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ultimate cat fishing. This one person
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were. But luckily for us,
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here, we are yea bill.
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over here in the UK for the
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it. The country is awesome.
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Wales. We did do a quick
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we've seen many, many different historic
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to get in a couple of investigations. We've had some paranormal experiences along the

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way, and I got to meet
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And I Pickle Peewe and Pickles Peewee
the pope parrot. Yeah you met

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them both. Yeah, that's very
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good friends. Pickles once my face
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And oh I even got to handle
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Yeah it is. Then it's back
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of sight, out of mind.
That's real. I keep forgetting about him.

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Why did we start We started a
Stonehenge? Well, yes, we

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went to Stonehenge or my very first
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new site that was old and all
the stonework. I would always let out

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a big Wow. We'll have to
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That was the oldest place Stonehenge,
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thousand years? And then we came
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up to bat Well. First we
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one of our other paralimual show hosts, Neil Getty's War from the Paranormal Peep

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Show. I no Ukay Radio Network, that's true And we had a lovely

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sit down with him and we we
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here in just a few minutes now. That was a lovely old pub.

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Yes, my first time being in
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shot up to Bath and where they
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They had the Roman Baths up there
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absolutely gorgeous. We just don't have
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primnant from Bath. If I was
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love with on this trip, Bath
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mursa our station manager. Kind taste
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we had a meal and had a
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the first day, a lot of
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but it was great. We crammed
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had such a good time. We've
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well that we're willing to include in
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then we went to what was in
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Margham Castle, we went to Saint
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where Saint David himself originated the Saint
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Wales, and also the cathedral down
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tombs, very lovely well Amanda Churchyard. We walked around a graveyard and a

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couple of the spirits took issue with
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to get the f outa. In
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at her. I actually I actually
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Castle, and as at the time
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and hours of video footage to go
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because of the type of ruins it
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of the castles in Monty Python and
the Holy Grail, and but we actually

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shadow people miss moving past you.
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very true. That was a lot
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and we sat down, had a
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a few people might remember some of
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Balls pub. This time we were
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we were there we've recorded a pub
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and we'll be right back after this. Hi, everybody, this is Mark

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at our standard pub, well,
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Swan Inn in Stifford in the Wall, United Kingdom, and I'm here with

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Irene Allen and Neil Getty's ward,
Irene's husband Brian, which here here having

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a chat of course, talking about
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land of Marylin King Arthur. And
oh yeah that's okay, then I don't

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all that. And because hey we're
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staying in and on carl Wall,
staying whale. We're here are you've just

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been to stonehand Lord, just visit
a Stonehenge today, very lovely makes little

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world for Marylyn Balls Ball gave me
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where parts of the Monty Python film
was. Old Lady, Yeah, that's

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mine with the rabbit, Yeah with
the French. Well the friend, the

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friend the French. Yeah, yah, since I've seen that. So what

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was your thoughts on Stonehenge mob It's
beautiful. I mean, I'm out.

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I loved Neolithic sites. Yeah,
and oh stonehend she I've always wanted to

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visit in person. It's kind of
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sites, it's like old hat.
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play. Well, we're worry about
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because we're talking so up Tariel.
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these old places, and because they
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us how they were made, but
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well do you seek Yeah yeah,
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Age people with copper tools transported with
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the actual blue standing saying, while
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even know they're in being lops.
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out. You can lay up a
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gap in the commits. Yeah,
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they son, it's been well,
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transport them? Wow? Back a
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think I think they will built on
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saw something out fruted new stones came
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and then they were but they're so
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will to put them taught and pull
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if you go to see the blue
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they actually still to you. That's
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the crystall line structure something in the
granite. Now that's interesting because I'm we

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intercuwed q new and for our show
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doing stones and he talks about giant
sun record and he said there's been giant

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skeletons found around everywhere and in the
UK and apparently giant skeletons have been found

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if memory serves me correct, around
the Stonehenge area. And there's another lady

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we interviewed a few years ago called
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guy that saw beams of energy. I

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can't remember there's Stonehenge or from Stone
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it was a very straight laced kind
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It might been even an engineer,
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said. But certainly the official English
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undercurrents of Stonegies that we're hearing about. Yeah, well that's typical of mostly

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historic site. Yeah. Yeah,
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about earlier, the fact that while
the stones they're flat yea, and they

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will be not better. They're all
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How they think, how they think
it worked, like m that's right,

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that's right. There there are for
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if you find them, I presume
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of the early part of the twentieth
century where it shows them actually hoisting the

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stones back up, put them into
a place, and they may not be

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actual in the in the place that
there were five thousand years ago. They

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might be off slightly, but it's
their best guests. And that's not the

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only set of stones that are being
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in the village of Abury, and
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And I believe there's a story going
around where again a real weekly is the

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expert on this talk about there's a
stone that they sound and underneath it it

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was a skemmington. I think it's
the barber skeleton. Is called so forward

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because they had a leather rate and
simply yeah, like barber tools in there

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and a pair of glass squad But
apparently when they were trying to post these

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stones up in the Middle Ages put
them up right, this one clapped back

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down on the end. He was
the und luppy guy that got it.

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So no way I pack so they
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that's there was a vacancy. But
yeah, I mean, did you feel

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any kind of energies as you went
around? I personally did not, but

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there were so many people around.
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I mean, arms more interesting when
all the birds sitting up on the

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styles when I was a kid leased
playlists back in the fifties. Yeah,

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I used to feel the virgrations for
the spault Leavin Mark. We could were

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people climbing up onto the top thin
to another ones that yeah burned down.

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Those kids don't and mom and daddy
was bought vitnik Yeah, yeah, a

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friend lines remember, Yeah, there
are a bit all admits that they remember

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having picnics at Stone Ends. Yeah. It's an interesting thought because it's just

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totally I wanted, I really wants
a deal to filously. Well, well,

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they too bad. I didn't realize
that, honestly, I didn't realize

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it will still be so far away. Yeah, so far away and so

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many people you know now that you
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the driving you had to shuttle bus. Yeah. Yeah. There was

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a lot of controversy back in the
late nineties early two thousand because I think

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English Heritage were planning to build like
an underpart something that's correct. Yeah,

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and a lot of people are posted. I think it was overturned and the

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time traffic goes through that road,
well it's on duty some summers and we'll

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just this just blow. Yeah,
and it just creates too crop bus with

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the stones and yeah, worried and
the build an underpart. Yeah, they

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go through. Yeah, and they
objected strongly end yeah. Yeah, because

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it would deliver a lot they did. Yes. Yeah. Plus you don't

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know what you're going to hit,
let's face it. That's one of the

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things that we're learning about lately,
how my stuff is sort of buried undergrown.

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archeological fine, it's usually because they're

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doing some kind of construction and Diggie
absolutely and then they find bones, they

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find art of bats see it buying
gardments yeah yeah, yeah, and they're

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only given a certain amount of time
to that's strong and folks were all fitting

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and lobbit Yeah, for the construction
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funny story, I know, I
won't say his name. My brother's marriage

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to a Welsh girl, as I
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father in law is a retired builder
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tourm down the end of his garden, U you know, wonstone thing covered

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in leaves and in digging around it
finds them off. But the skeleton and

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the add spurs on. He seemed
to be like a kind of cavalier month

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a night or cavalier type the dive
of the sword. He had spurs on

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his shoes and everything like that,
and he used to stay at the end

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of the garden. So what would
you think he's going to do the responsively

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can cool up Welsh heritage or whoever
it might be, how I can come

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and ship out at night? Now
what he got as a bin bag I

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was JuffEd in the big and drove
it to the dumb. Yeah you just

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kept quiet about it, Yeah,
because he knew that if he called in

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those people, this project is going
to get starhust s. Yeah. Yeah,

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they're just lots of farmers. Do
that I purchased before. They just

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fire Yeah yeah, sumb it up
and keep quiet because they're all that's saring

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lovely. Yeah. Yes, there's
there's stacks. The story in the in

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the no speed on on a primes
a guy who's doing some drying work and

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he's uncovered at or on the floor. Wow, funnel with this one now,

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I think press Quarter what a site. When I was Couplers Wells,

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as you know, I lived in
the Orchy Islands for five years. My

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daughter still lives up on the Orky
Islands, which is a group of islands

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off the north coast of Scotland.
Everyone calls it the Orkneys, but you

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get told off by them. They
don't hike it. It's got be called

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the Orkney Islands or Orkney because it's
a county technical and there was a farm

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on it. Discovered a I don't
know, Yeah, he felt that the

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Graham was slightly followed when every time
he was driving his machine ory everybody it's

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fell kind of here but spongy or
something. So he shoved the pole down

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and he just ahead, going and
going and going. So eventually Sharp courts

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down and he found a whole bloody
tomb under his garden, and so he

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called in people and discovered that there's
actually a burial site within his garden,

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and there was like skeletons of eagles
as well as human bones. It became

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none locally as the Tomb of the
Eagles thrown. Now it's a tourist site

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up in the Orkany running and it's
on this guy's land. It's not like

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run by the Historic Scotland Group.
It's his own private kind of wavy for

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but in Orkandy. There's there's blades
gnaw in three way, you know,

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there's a bump of drivings. I
mean, we went through a deep on

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the island of Westray where we live
and and they were holding a special come

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and meet the archaeologist state. So
the thought, oh, well, we're

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going to chat to them about that
in us. So we wrote these little

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bumps to them and got there and
the guide was saying, yeah, we've

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found all these bones here in this
house. And this house goes back about

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three thousand years. But the interesting
thing is is that it's it's like houses

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upon housespon houses over the centuries.
So the present house that's here today was

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built in the nineteen thirties and the
people that live in that house now are

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the descendants of these neolithic people that
live right here next door. You know

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that's in forever because they've just kept
living on the same side ascension. Why

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yeah, But he said there's a
whole village, get mine, Jim.

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Well, we said, I'm aware
it is a village. He says,

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oh, you just grow over it
on the bus where people and buildings and

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yeah, yeah, this basis quite
Yeah, I think it's been given a

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given a look a stylized historic bot. Absolutely a folks more on on the

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front hoole. Yeah, and there's
something that means across as large new sight

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at some point. It's just so
it drifted cost shadow, I think really

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Sampson and yeah it did the draft, but I think that's the door.

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It's enhanced its stony. Yeah,
yeah, happen to bind. This would

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all be paid and there's no paints
paying good mor've got out scrows or nails

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would be wouldman eight off bowl It
probably wouldn't be safe. Now oh yeah

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they restopped fitting so and at least
they are hundred years old. Just say

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on that website and we looked up
with deciddict to camel to this one about

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one member seen it's in place.
Good messaging. Time to start messaging saying

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now I'm just eat ten pubs around
Stone into something. It was probably used

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by the Tegler Stone end. They're
old Fox Lennings. Wait wait all day

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you know allowing there'll be ton blocks
in the place. Yeah, you're ready

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for a poll beer on the in. But the old Posan runs or something

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like that because it is on ze
leg road. Cool and you've got that

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big old barn back directly been sort
of fables. Yeah yeah, pluzzing air

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slaws. Why it took us were
found out a lot of lands my experience,

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depending on who you speak to.
They take over a pub and they

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don't know much about it and where
I used to live and there was a

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very very old pub there that they
had found I think in the mid nineteen

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nineties when they were doing some renovations
they actually found some original borings on the

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upstairs walls that are being drawn by
someone. But it was drawings, and

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I think the technical word for him
is cartoon. But obviously we we think

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of cartings and animation, but not
Lin's work. And they people my pants

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have like the seventeenth century about Dick
Turth and type of house on inner drawings,

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and this died that took over of
the pub was kind of mom me,

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no, I can't paint over it. I want to plan and give

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it a pain on bolt too,
because this has been framed in grass and

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there's heritage and was so listed building
and these pubs they just want to like

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Salberholder, oh my god, the
rain coming down. Well we'll get another

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fruit yep, miss, we're a
realer tint sure, yeah, Zaba,

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Yes, I got the same thing
you did part Yeah. What about if

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they do a loumcohold Arber on mom
alcoholic, I'd appreciate Becore on wine Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, and on Witnes
there they do limit the box.

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But the birth's getting meaningful comin yeahs. I've read somewhere it's like the rainiest

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August on record for a long long
time. But normally August is really fought,

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isn't it. Yeah? Okay,
because my daughter's birthday is slang in

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the middle of August, and we
have always remembered really really hot weather birthday.

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So and I thought, it's suposed
been really nice tomorrow and for after

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week, Right, Why happened it
slows tomorrow because we're going in the dark.

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Yeah, we're gonna sit under the
joling on if it's nice five fountain

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and they're going to think fast spyle
at the box line, I said the

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girls, and then change it for
a box don't get on the boat with

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the straw. And then when they
say we're off to London, to London,

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and while so y'all making it to
London, I thought that, yeah,

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don't fuck hatch what Yeah, the
original basically we're gonna stay, got

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rented out and we weren't gonna go. And then and Brian actually knew about

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the cheaper hotel ran outside the area
that one could take keep training and we'll

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see some fights. Excellent, ye
and bed it'll just be it overnights.

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Yeah, bucking and pious. I
remember showing an American friend of mine around

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London about fifteen years ago when we
were first of night. Seemed sucking in

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alice and I saw it. I
thought perct I thought it said, because

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really huge, But it's not.
It doesn't look so huge once you're actually

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there. Yes, we've got a
roll. The actual real house, Buckingham

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House was owned by Lord bucking A
Stacking, so dark King too, were

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King Charles all this summer? Are
they ain't married? And stead they'll a

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lot this sing marriage Queen Shaw?
Are they pulled? We wanted a resident

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at seeing London just all the palaces
were outside London, so they what do

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you residence in London for her?
Said well, bucking woman bill soft and

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ball clapboard and that is only like
that little. Over the years he renovated

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and made it big girl, and
our success has made it big and we're

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it's a big court yard in the
middle. Yeah, and the whole house

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goes around over two fronto Bedulso whether
the original bucking In House not bucking In

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Paris, the original bucking Wall House
had sixty rounds. This is over too

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when I was mill and but then
the original buck Little house. Do you

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know what you see on the television
the bell and he and all that lending

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the carriage WHI goes through he into
the courtyard at the back right opposite that

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is bucking right pace with big wings
coming off of what I see and see.

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Yeah, so it is my big
when weak with it that way,

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Yes, it's the biggest blottle,
only one I haven't they Yeah, with

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the land as well, it is
yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember

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when I did showed my American friend
round fifteen years ago. We traveled through

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the tubes of London. Obviously to
get to these places. I said,

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okay, you want to see big
Bay and you want to see and so

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we're plotting it all now. Yeah, And we came across a bus start

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the oughts to see my old call
it all right? Why is it would

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be fascinating make a land. We
came across a busk in the London underground

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playing his guitar and she hadn't the
same one call. She goes, oh

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cool the oscar. I said,
yeah, I said, well, I

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said, we have a traditioned here
in the UK. It's that when he

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goes, can I put thank you
when you put some money in that is

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making you know, guitar case or
whatever. You've got to give a bound

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like that too, of course,
and she just really said, you know

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you got to give a bow is
a crossom you will do it was considered

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roomed. If you don't do it, she should go out. Okay,

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okay. She threw some coisy that
you kept a creepy palace like that.

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So they're going, oh, there's
just crack about lom and you look around

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a beach you won't get out.
Yeah, never gave me stay around London.

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And that's the lesson London let anymore. But yeah, I guess you

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might see the change in the guard. I don't know when they do that.

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Is that midweek or do trends of
the dog ran behind them too?

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Then every guy yeah, yeah,
you guys are not going to Sunding for

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three or four days. Broke no, they usually faint before that, they

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usually pass out, not but yeah, and I think they'd be drenched as

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rats by, you know, if
the weather stays out of the way it

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is now if Buckingham Palace haunted,
I know Hampton Court is that's all house

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is, That's the heart of the
palace. So yeah, paltis right now

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Hampton Court. I remember we're going
to the reties. Well I used to

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go there as a kid as Yeah, yeah about black holes? Is it

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Anne Boleyne that those around names?
Are those? Suppose she goes everywhere?

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What's that castle near where we used
to live by was by? What's that

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castle where I'm Boleyne is up there? Well we as somebody you did?

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That was her family? Hung jees? So should they told the hold?

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The terror thought? Yeah, yeah, there must be various versions of yeah,

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yeah, well I suppose there's a
ghost. You can literally just plan

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sport yourself from one location to another. I was telling my wife's the other

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day about your ghost story, and
I said, well, because I was

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hoping she'd be here and I'll sell
I'll get iron to tell you about the

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mysterious stranger they picked up when they
were going to the airport, and so

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I told her about it, but
I said, I'll pland get you to

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say it. So could you say, for the benefit both my wife and

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listening to the games, I found
it fascinatescating. Yeah, we were on

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the way to Bristol April because my
cousin in Scotland had just died and his

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funeral was on that day and we
had to get a fly up to him

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Scotland and back in one day.
Were we flow up and back these other

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dogs and well I could only get
it from Bristol airport. So we are

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driving through all of these county names, crossed the him for drums in his

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country, and I sent your wading
towards the April. Woman. We're just

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going and going. But it was
about four o'clock in the morning and we

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had to be at the airport buying
six or five April or something I like,

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because it was I think in six
o'clock flam it. Yeah, And

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it was a mystic cold January warning
freeze or cold. And we go down

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all these little lanes and nothing but
hate rowers will go in past us.

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And I've there was no houses to
wed drums. And then a rather war

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this man appears and he's walking along. So I said, quickly, quick

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stop last him all away. So
we had asked him out to get to

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the airport. He said all he
said slow away from me. He says,

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I have to show me really well
car with hold. We could say

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that he's got the car. This
just straggle down sitting behind me. There's

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a strangers sitting behind were and he's
driving and laugh. It wasn't he could

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stab as the baff of eight.
He could do anything. So I'm sitting

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like there's tall pit, trying to
stop to kid Naioli and I said to

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right. He turn left out and
there's suddenly nowther We get to the airport,

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and just before we get to the
z short stay color part, he

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says, stop here, we'll get
that up. He said, well,

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how are you going to get back
story? He said, I can get

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back there all right. And more
cool thing the war was for him in

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the car. Off heats the walls. And I turned around to Brians and

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sifted some bigicism's fair and you know
the GD some money or something. I

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looked to Brian and there's something when
I where to be seeing nowhere to be

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seeing that he got out of the
car for about the car got out of

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the car as well. Okay,
you know so you were talking to him,

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you turned to Brian. When you
look back then it's astonished. So

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about a week later, so it
was bothering me. About a week later

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I said to Brian we still argue
over this now, Chip and I sent

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that boat that we've picked up all
the way to Crystal Airport said what what

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did you wake form? What do
use? What did he look like to

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you? Sagam in descriptions? Totally
different to this personal that's weird, he

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said. The other bag, I
said, he did another bag? Yes,

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said they had glasses, he didn't
have facey why a whate beard roses

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had you said? He was very
smartly grass and not not as smartly devil

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Broun. You just grow will to
me, you know, it's a great

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hand silas someone like pain me.
And he had like a well what do

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00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:30,320
they call you something? Yeah?
Yeah, an anaretis and he he said

404
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:37,000
that he used to walk from the
airport back to Bristol. You should come

405
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:42,079
out at two o'clock in the mounds, the long red walk. Yeah,

406
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:45,400
give old Yeah. They used to
deal with the lines. No wonder he

407
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:52,039
knew his weight as airport. But
the point is you're jump for the exsistic.

408
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,880
It was all right, it was
we able to step to the airport

409
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,599
when he got out of car.
Disappear here not a living curse. Yeah,

410
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,760
have we got it? We're there, totally lost And the point the

411
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,719
point is the past has been up
in Scotland. Dared my favorite passing.

412
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,920
Okay, and if I haven't the
being a funeral, I would have been

413
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,360
doublestated. The dummy. We've all
have liked it. So does I keep

414
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,039
yourself a Dardian angel type pool?
Yeah, that's interesting. Well with the

415
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,840
bastip Yeah, in their land shout
all the way. She's bloody lost again,

416
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,360
m that there's a fact that you
too will saw somebody completely different.

417
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,880
Yeah yeah, yeah and him there
she Yeah, that's a bit at the

418
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:49,079
airport. Let me, that's just
agree. It would be interested if you

419
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:53,280
could retrace his steps go at Bristol
every fee if he's walking streets again early

420
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,079
hours, Well we have actually been
back to Bristol, would be little out

421
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,519
to Italy. Yeah, well we
got route. Yeah, they wake the

422
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:06,960
right root. Have they been talked
a little weakly Bristol's best kept seat.

423
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,559
That yeah, and so there's another
ghost story that I like and jewels By,

424
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,760
Well, don't think it's the typically. I suppose it wouldn't be a

425
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,559
ghost because bluff, he's looking through
your son's house in it is it in

426
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:23,400
London? And you saw this blade
or someone the flat now that because it's

427
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,039
been averted into flat and he's young
as when she saw you. Yeah,

428
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:34,519
one minute. Doc's a lemon in
my yeah, lemon any she my dear

429
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:38,960
wats Yeah. It was a beautiful
house. I absolutely good, beautiful house.

430
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:44,239
I loved it. I would have
bought it as it was. My

431
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,400
friend of Brian's bought it. And
they decided to turn it into apartments.

432
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:54,280
Well that's actually, and I knock
it down and she'll six houses a lot.

433
00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:00,880
Right. There was a monkey puzzle, true, I should right there

434
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:09,480
preservational and Midolway's partner chopped it down, so all planning stopped there. Ryan

435
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,920
Baying staked that. I just kept
it feeling because he just went in there

436
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,159
on a satt he was. He's
a bully, this guy. Yeah,

437
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:22,880
he's an ext rugby Bayer's bullet.
That's what I won't name. He's a

438
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:29,960
bullet and he just went in there
a book cups because he coaches rugby,

439
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:36,360
thought numbered and he went in there
and mos knocked it down, chopped it

440
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,119
back, knocked it around. The
beauty. Yeah, well, don't know

441
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:45,239
why. There was a beautiful house
as well, so h so they started

442
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:51,039
setting to partners. So my son
moved in there because he was overseeing the

443
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:53,440
world, the wonderful one mother.
Of course when he used to go out

444
00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:00,719
at right, Pa, see his
girlfrieze, We'll come back. Every Jimmy

445
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,280
walked through the door. The bears
woman stolen the top and spell was a

446
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,880
staircase that went up like that,
blinding the staircake beautiful, ever so white,

447
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,960
and she'd stand up the top and
stairs like was still here and did

448
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,800
just go. He would just go, I'm ignoring, hell, this is

449
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,079
Jayby were James was like. And
it'd got back into his light where he

450
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:28,239
was sleeping. But we weren't run
o this day. But he said,

451
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,320
I'll showing you around. So it
took this little tour around the house and

452
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:37,880
he ended up in the antic why
and it was obviously where the staff and

453
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,039
mist just staying and such people that
were in service would stay up there and

454
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:47,280
the UPTA and we're looking around and
everything. I can't feed anything up first

455
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,800
faced with the act was made up
like these little the rooms they will dat

456
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,800
off this particular room that I was
in and I was the last one to

457
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,960
go out, and as I got
to the door, the door was about

458
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:02,880
there, well right in front of
me. Was it booked to the door?

459
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:07,360
We went like that. She's standing
there and she's looking at me.

460
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:10,559
Was shot and I'm looking at her
the short yeah outside, come on,

461
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:17,039
mom, I'm looking at this apparition. Women's looking at me and she as

462
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:20,400
if she could see me, and
I know she could see me because it

463
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,639
look on her face. Was its
war less the same with one. Yeah,

464
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:29,559
when she was dressed as a like
she'd make it. She was like

465
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:36,920
mayor the major house on my linear
house what they called the women that were

466
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:44,239
top above all the star mistress of
yeah, the equipment of mister Hudson,

467
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,119
but a lady yeah, yeah,
and that's what she was. Still I

468
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,719
leave that. So that's the second
line. Everything or more this, But

469
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:55,519
what did she can deal about me? Not to me? As I felt

470
00:39:55,519 --> 00:40:00,079
sated, Wow, that's indrid and
it desided to tell honestly. Yeah.

471
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,320
Yeah, that's why I think it's
not like you're seeing the ghost of a

472
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,679
person who died like he was,
like you both were alive or my live

473
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,599
w been breathing. It just happened
to have been occupying different times in the

474
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,000
same space. But the conditions right, you could see each other. Yeah,

475
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,880
but it does have a good way
before I had time six but which

476
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:28,880
it was only the fact that they
were davitaid when cameled one. But I'll

477
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:34,480
turn looked at that for stup.
Is it some of not once people well

478
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,800
no, did not fill in.
Yeah, yeah, told me as get

479
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,960
me interested with these people from the
past suddenly wrote in their diary today I

480
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:47,320
saw a lady looking at me in
clothes I've never seen before. Yeah,

481
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:52,920
yeah, always like yeah, exactly. Yeah. Now talking to the building

482
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,519
work, it reminds me of the
story. And I had said this before,

483
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,519
but I'll recount in Actually don't know
this story, barn, but it's

484
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,599
a story that I heard from a
guy on a plane and I was going

485
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:07,639
out to Spain, and he sat
next to me and recourse on this plane

486
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,360
going back to Spain. We yes, yes, I remember your yes,

487
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,559
Yeah, it was there's a lot
of SPANDID game. So one of the

488
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:19,280
last guys to get on the plane, I thought it was a Spanish guys

489
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,199
and they announced on the tan.
I wasn't about turning his phone to it

490
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,599
or this or something like that,
and he goes, what was that?

491
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:28,559
I said, I had no clue. Sorry. So we got into this

492
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:30,760
little conversation, me and this guy
and my son was here, lean's looking

493
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,559
out the window and this guy,
I said that you know you're going on

494
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:37,719
holiday. There's no no he said, I'm from I live in London,

495
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:40,880
he said, but I'm originally from
He said, I prefer to call it

496
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,679
PLU shot that. Yeah, you
know, you would note stairs a ram.

497
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,039
He said, But I live in
London. I'm an architect and I'm

498
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:53,239
going out to mamicus, so you
check on some buildings. I'm running the

499
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,800
project for sort of thing. And
I said, oh okay, So he

500
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,719
said what do you do. At
the time, I lived in the Orkney

501
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,960
Islands, so we ran this fairy
museum, stroke gallery, and so I

502
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:08,039
happened to have on my phone and
photographs of the drawings I'd done, and

503
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,280
I said, here you go,
this is sort of stuff I'm interesting.

504
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,320
So I showed him that sort of
stuff, and I told him a few

505
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:21,360
of the weird stories that I'd researched. And what happened was as that he

506
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:24,079
then opened up a bit. And
I don't think he would have opened up

507
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,039
had just been a roller. The
mel guy as those And he said when

508
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:35,239
he was about eighteen or nineteen,
he was conscripted into the Iranian army and

509
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,000
him and his army buddy walk in
the streets at night in alarm. And

510
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:42,480
he said, a sending storm keeped
that, and so they thought shelf and

511
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:45,239
they went into this mosque and you
have to take your sees and bosom.

512
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:50,280
Yeah that's what they did. Yeah, that's what they did. And he

513
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,800
said to his army buddy, okay, you've got to sleep with your back

514
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,400
to the wall, or laid down
and asked, sixth next to you.

515
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,840
I've got the gun, and I
keep a lookout ready signs at trouble.

516
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:02,000
That's what I said. So okay, So that's what he did, and

517
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:06,079
he said, no, man hard
he tried. This guy always called him

518
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:09,119
Hussey. He said he kept waking
up, sorry, falling asleep, and

519
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:13,719
then waking up falling asleep and waking
up. And the third time he fell

520
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,719
asleep and he woke must stay away, I must stay awake. The third

521
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:22,480
time he woke up, he said
he noticed this lady crouching down and looking

522
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:27,239
him at the fet and there was
a young girl next to this lady,

523
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:30,880
he said, about twelve thirteen years
away, crouching down looking at his friend's

524
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,199
feet, and he thought, where
the hell did they come from? So

525
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:38,800
tried to wake up his friend by
pressing his elbow onto his friend's chest,

526
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:44,360
and he said them how hard he
pressed his shoulder, sorry, his elbow

527
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,880
onto his friend's chest. His friend
did wake up, so he said,

528
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,000
who's saying? He said, at
that point, I decided I was going

529
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:52,719
to make a run for it.
I thought, I don't know why he

530
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,679
was going to make his ear at
the gun and decided to wrack the strap

531
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:01,400
of the gun around his arm.
But he said that must have a chatted

532
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,079
the lady to look at it,
and he said she in sudden looking at

533
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:08,880
his feet. She knoked it up
and re set as soon as she looked

534
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,079
at me in the eye. He
said, I knew that she wasn't from

535
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:16,199
this world. And he said,
I felt a s would go down me,

536
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:20,079
and I just knew that she wasn't
from this world. And he said,

537
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:22,480
at that point, the lady stood
up, and the young girls stood

538
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:25,280
up, and they turned and they
walked away. He said, as they

539
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,800
walked away, he noticed they both
had colliverly coofed feet, in other words,

540
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,519
those of a gold cataws. He
said, me has vanished into the

541
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:37,880
wall of the nuts. And when
he told me that, the shivers went

542
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,480
up, and my spine, I
can believe it. Oh my God,

543
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,719
has a wonder to the store.
Tell them about the rain walk we would

544
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,000
over the fail est today. Well, yeah, we were so good the

545
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:52,239
picture. Yeah, I've got a
whole bunch of high depthinicial pictures of the

546
00:44:52,360 --> 00:45:00,440
ring. Yeah. And one thing
that we discover is every single picture we

547
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:06,400
took the ring. At first I
thought it was paradolia, and we've done

548
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,880
so much experimenting with it, we
realized now I was a paradolia. Though

549
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,920
we we've tried different lightning techniques.
But every single picture you take of the

550
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:21,039
rings, either on the bridge of
it snows or in one of the eyes,

551
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:28,559
there are faces they wore, well, real big scary looking or creepy

552
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:34,079
faces that lil or men, women, yeah, on the sexist, but

553
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,239
on the nose, there's there's there's
three different pictures on the lovels of three

554
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:44,800
different places. One of those faces
that used ago. I took a photograph

555
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,440
and I noticed something something in the
middle of evening with like till in the

556
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:52,760
night you phone, I'm very good
baker, And there was this picture of

557
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:59,239
this post of with hair and a
bit baked, right, And what one

558
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,679
of the pictures is that he took
up the eye how pen because it's Paradonian

559
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,079
how penal place two years ago?
Pen feed in the eye when it took

560
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:13,599
it in the nose. Mmm.
You don't see the same face twice.

561
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:19,400
It's never ed sing to face call. And you would also get the same

562
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:25,880
kate of discoloration because of the silver
or reel. It's not perfect, yeah,

563
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:31,719
because it's obviously all Yeah, and
you know you would think if you

564
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,519
would take multiple pictures in the same
spot, it's not carving in here.

565
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:38,880
It stay the same, but it
changes. Yeah. Yeah, first I

566
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:45,159
thought it was reflecting me back because
you'd say it had what mountain troubers food,

567
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:52,159
But yeah, this one, well, here here's a perfect example.

568
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,679
Okay, what came up with?
What maybe the old will set us.

569
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,719
Yeah, uh huh yeah, let
me shoot. Okay, that's a very

570
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:06,639
good picture. Yeah see this eye
right here? Yeah okay, second would

571
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:10,239
be its stuff to eyes and buy
a zoom in all the way. You

572
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:17,159
tell me what you see East Canadian
by or with the two eyes down at

573
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:23,840
the bottom, I'm seeing it warm. Oh okay, well one hair see

574
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,679
the roll face you said, Well, we're looking at these two patches of

575
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,480
red at the bottom thinking they could
be had. Oh you know what I

576
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:37,840
did, not said war, But
they're always lots roll stones, the rubies.

577
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:42,960
Yeah, yeah, the roll stones
fitted in so they're bulging. But

578
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,159
when we're looking to them like that, as we get into the depths of

579
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,960
hell, yeah, here's another bolts
up over the bait. Yeah, I'm

580
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:57,639
going to zoom into the nose.
Well yeah, it doesn't look like a

581
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,840
look at what you said, I'm
it with an eye. Well yeah,

582
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:06,400
and all this looks like the mouth
is open. Yeah, screen yeah,

583
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:13,960
screen by some aunt of give him
a Tolro film. There's a guy that

584
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:19,480
did Pan's Labyrinth. You know there
was a yeah, yeah it's it could

585
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,400
and all there's the boys. There's
a picture that that's street yeah, painted,

586
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:31,159
yes, the mouth open, yeah
yeah. This is the ring upside

587
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:37,480
down and that's the bridge top of
the nose. But it looks like there's

588
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:45,280
another face set. Yeah yeah.
But and it just keeps happening every time

589
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:50,480
we take a picture. The one
amazes me as a part one of the

590
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:57,639
pictures. This is the same that
icall in the notes. Yeah, y'all,

591
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,000
cigar, he's called the first of
all bloke in the eye. Yeah.

592
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,519
So this scring is it? I
remember you taught about in this scring

593
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:13,599
before the history history of the ring? Well yeah, I mean she acquired

594
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:20,639
it in Italy, Yeah, from
someone she knew and who would he found

595
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:27,639
it? Retree movie. It used
to be an old very old and we're

596
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:31,599
closed lived in living wish Yeah,
and his family bought the house up this

597
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:37,239
Rikins lived in hanging on the parme
he oldly close since the where the ring

598
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:43,960
lever dated belt m and his family
fought the house after her a close side

599
00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:46,719
and ringing all that eye and now
he will kitch him this ring and there

600
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,280
was nothing ass and the ass but
great on not no Iver thought they were

601
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:57,760
doing. He started having bad luck
for the ring. Then Catholic, he

602
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,880
will him to the ring in him. Amazon looked ba up. So you

603
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:07,480
wouldn't buried it in the church sharp? Right? Yeah, in another chip

604
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:16,159
on soap buried little church chore worried
the depth there ah somewhat or winter.

605
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,280
You'll let him me and tell me
about it, for it's going to get

606
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,239
out. He said, no,
said that won't be let up. You

607
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,480
know it's in the sacred place.
It didn't let us lie there now for

608
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:30,400
a girls, I'm not going to
get up. So we work a lot

609
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,639
for the church sharp and all the
graves will ever say it had built cup

610
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:37,480
with a little to morrow they're all
notice and flat, and all the GUIs

611
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,679
is down except one. It's worth
the grass in the bit of the marlware

612
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,039
stick the eye, why you said? That's where it is a smaller helping

613
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:51,480
them all while we're going around the
jump with this is top to glass.

614
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:55,559
You're right? Why was this top
to guist is? Anyway? I started

615
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:59,760
pulling at the girls, trying to
pull it out to dick as well were

616
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:05,480
to do. So he got this
spade thing that he had and dug it

617
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,960
up. Well, dug the girls
dug up. The rain took the ring.

618
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:12,400
It wasn't wrapped in it, looked
at the ring and the brown than

619
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,719
he is a shiny and new no
plan or not new looking, both shining,

620
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:21,039
and said it was he saw it
yesterday. There was no belmark,

621
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,800
and it come through all those winters, all that bad yvon nothing on it.

622
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:30,519
So first he said, well,
what was it given me? He

623
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:31,440
said, you can have it.
He said that all that he said,

624
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:37,840
it's hebe, which so well,
I've had it ever since. And he

625
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:44,039
took it to jewelry. Yeah,
we took it to a journey or the

626
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,480
two of us. Yeah. The
journal was an old Calgarian or somebody like

627
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:52,679
that Polynish that come on during the
war and the Middle Old Land. And

628
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,639
he always kept his jewelry shop with
lot which was very unusually forward. And

629
00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:06,320
then windows it's not should yeah,
but in the seventh said was very unusual

630
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,480
travel lockje in shops. He had
something the bound to get in the abny

631
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,719
and he opened the door and I
had to read one way, and so

632
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,360
it was something about this. He
said, no, he told me to

633
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,119
go away anywhere. I kept assist
all the system. Finally cut my feet

634
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:24,360
over the threshold of the door and
he looked at the ready said, sold

635
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:30,880
his silver cup for one nugget of
silver, he said, and may he

636
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,000
said it. I'm sure he said
the eyes were rubies, but no,

637
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:37,239
I think they tho on it.
We may have said full wanting someone.

638
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,159
It's a very very old Get out
of my hands. You wop out of

639
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,159
my house. Wow, the other
keeper get out of this shop at he

640
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,639
kicked us out the door and literally
gets us out muggy door could get out

641
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,960
well, locked the door behind us
and one lonely again my door. But

642
00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:00,480
the actual shank of the ring was
so was so thick. There's not much

643
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:05,920
stick of a little bit so thin. Yeah, right where it's been warmed

644
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,239
so much. Why there's worry about
it breaking on the Zamil rings. So

645
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:15,239
I took it to Sammuels that Samuels
is not about this old fool the area

646
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,920
in June, you know, I
said, kin was just reshadowed this ring

647
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,840
for me. So they reshant it, and I said, resized it to

648
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:28,039
my size so I can wear it. So they've done that, and I

649
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,960
wore it in the age twent on
one, I had it. My fingers

650
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:37,519
I was about eight stone and weight
skinny. My fingers were skinny, right,

651
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:44,679
and that ring still fits my finger
now a few stone heavier, my

652
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,239
fingers are a lot faster, but
I won't trouble that ring. It gets

653
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,679
on easy, and when it's on
and then just tightens sits out up fall

654
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:58,519
scabs alive. Sounded like the one
Ring ward or maybe that's where they got

655
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:01,639
the idea for the one rings.
Yeah. Well, we actually sent pictures

656
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:07,360
of it to the British Museum Abundant, trying to get an idea of Oh,

657
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:10,760
I don't know how old they thought
it might be. Of course they're

658
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,920
looking at pictures about the actual ring, right, yeah, and you know

659
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,320
what, it could be a representation
though, because let's face it, you

660
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,960
show it to any Christian, they're
going to see them doll. Yeah,

661
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:30,679
because of the Borns Hooks New Year. For a while there, because it

662
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,679
was found in Italy, we thought
it might have been a representation of Pan

663
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:44,360
or if yeah, yeah, then
there was a Babylonian but yeah, what

664
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:52,559
one of the first civilizations. Yeah, there was an old god God.

665
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:57,880
Yeah, so if we thought it
might have something you can do with that

666
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:04,079
f We don't really know now.
The British Museum seeing the thing for ring

667
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:07,639
was almost forward about when a year
old like cheap bits. Some of the

668
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:16,320
boats in the slice on Christopher Sonina
right, ideas a lot over wild and

669
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:22,599
I think it fellus fun to see
when it could be planned. I was

670
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,360
hoping it would be planned because he
was born, I was born, what

671
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:30,519
is it born? It came from
the Amorphy coast of Italy, but pomp

672
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:36,679
Post just down the roads. He
and they found a bulled way when they

673
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:43,840
were excavating ruins. They found the
stat land doing naughtie with the goats right

674
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,920
as you do. Yeah, yeah, which is get cloven heat. So

675
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:54,559
people walking through really, but I
don't know so much now for be Almond,

676
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:05,320
which is Egyptian. No, like
if there was a sublization that came

677
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:10,880
up, Will Grace and they and
where they started a setting south officially right,

678
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,119
So I gave them a local nitta. Maybe he could do an image

679
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:22,280
sir. We had well not not
tread an image search, but I could

680
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:28,679
try that. We've tried finding other
similar see there's another ring out there like

681
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,159
that at all. Yeah, and
there's some modern ones that are looked just

682
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:37,480
so cheesy. Yeah, and it's
but nothing historian the British Museum turned around

683
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:43,960
and told bab but some they did
anything else panned and that my first so

684
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,440
because I wrote to them in last
a movie for a big pan was that

685
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:49,920
A friend of mine says, it's
a demon? Can it be paddle?

686
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:53,960
Is it demon? Listen? They
don't think kids pan. Maybe your friend's

687
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:58,920
right. We think with kids,
have you is a few years with it

688
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:00,800
is? Some of the z is
out. Wow, that's it, hund,

689
00:57:01,519 --> 00:57:07,199
that's what they said. Well,
someone elses tollunch guy the knight chows

690
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,840
in. Tight it to the knights. When you say in this say so

691
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,119
that's the next mission. Then well, and here's the thing. Here's on

692
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:23,039
this culture. Look how asymmetrical the
basis cutting down that the center. Yeah,

693
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:28,639
on this side over here, it's
a smaller beard full night. The

694
00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:31,920
eye is furthered down. Yeah.
If you covered up half the face,

695
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:37,320
it looks almost it's almost like those
little faces like for theater. Yeah,

696
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:40,800
for a comedy in Granma. You
cover half of it, it looks one

697
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,440
way, but then when you look
at the other half, you get more

698
00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:50,000
of the full beard near it sticks
out farther there's more of a grimace on

699
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:53,039
the face. Lunen it. So
each side of the face is showing off

700
00:57:53,079 --> 00:58:02,039
a different verson like one one good
one either and Seas didn't he I think

701
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:07,000
he's neither. I think he just
is. Oh, it's just like a

702
00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:14,679
mischief. He didn't think about it. I agree for mischief. Talk about

703
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:19,000
diving. Yeah, maybe open the
safe door. Well there's some type of

704
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,400
thing sound self and safe door that
sounds up on the wall, point the

705
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:25,320
safe door and there you go.
Didn't jump out. He's got a life

706
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,000
of his army. Yeah, Godi
of the safe Oh yeah, I mean

707
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:36,000
we feel there's some kind of some
kind of attachute. Yeah. And he

708
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:40,920
said it was a sound on an
iron nails, and they particularly use iron

709
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:47,039
in in Uh, but I don't
thember clean a. That's a thing that

710
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,000
when Sir Scot Snow Philip kin Seller, I was invited to go that into

711
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:54,920
this house. People having a lot
of bad luck. This lady of going

712
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,559
to die. Their son have died
in mus like that. And Philip and

713
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:04,920
the old lady and a group of
their friends were doing a sort of I

714
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,159
don't know what you'd call it,
but then try I exercise a place or

715
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:13,199
something. But they're in He was
banging nails into the ground, iron nails

716
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,000
that have been specially made for it
in his cunning space in meat and they

717
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:22,519
said there's something to do with the
water nearby and lay lines. Yeah yeah.

718
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:25,920
And so that was iron nails and
they've been specifically made for this job.

719
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,480
They didn't just go and buy them. Yeah, the iron nails.

720
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:34,760
So yon have come down our nails
and it's it's don't go that root.

721
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,239
And then I hear centeries don't buy
iron. You would like my house because

722
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:45,079
green as I talked to carry Green
the one, Oh yeah yeah. About

723
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:49,119
the trees in the garble go,
I'm the older your tree. He got

724
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:53,880
horseauce trees placed in corners. They've
got our holly horselorn hedges. This us

725
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:59,880
all to do with witches and faith. Yeah yeah, let's see it except

726
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:09,199
take the evil way out of the
house. Yeah. That and on the

727
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:15,559
minister, Yeah, he get deacon
in the chapel on the row. Maybe

728
01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:34,000
fossment used to beIN tried making lar
same respects. And somewhere somewhere was a

729
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:44,480
poll shilling that he might one worth
wis there's where will we think in the

730
01:00:44,639 --> 01:00:49,119
farmer at the bottom, because he's
coming or he's what used to come and

731
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:54,960
visit he took way with bright really
motion you know what g on the limb

732
01:00:55,559 --> 01:01:04,039
and and the picture we got at
Hub out the window. I took a

733
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:08,280
photogra of one day right and we're
not long moved in. My son Bud

734
01:01:08,599 --> 01:01:14,119
leave our first pig can camera.
So I went out and Rome took a

735
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:16,920
photos off for the house from the
roads. And then when I zoomed it

736
01:01:17,039 --> 01:01:22,000
to the window, this is what
Bryan's talker. Hub was looking out at

737
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:28,960
the window and thought there used to
be neck the a bag room window.

738
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:34,840
Yeah, by window there and the
curtains are formed slightly to the side.

739
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:40,960
Herbert's cooking out carrying down into the
corner of the guard wall and the Veilbert

740
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,400
that that particularly day I took the
cartographs, there was no one in the

741
01:01:47,559 --> 01:01:52,239
house. Beha was in London.
Is no wild Martha, Mum, she

742
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:57,960
she was in the land. No
should be her the heat and said doll

743
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:10,039
in the lounge. Yeah, smart
in your mouth, but it's interested in

744
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:15,199
all these ghosts always appearing doorways and
windows. I don't know if I feelways

745
01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:20,920
whenever I talked to fight about what
I was mas Wind. That goes back

746
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,760
into our theory of the ring.
We never finished, which is, oh,

747
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,000
yeah, this is a theory you
come up in the theory that struck

748
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:37,280
me yesterday seeing all these spaces.
I don't believe we're seeing spaces of spirits.

749
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:43,599
I don't necessarily think we're seeing the
faces and demons. Yeah, I

750
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:46,079
don't think it's spaces. She thought, maybe it's it was showing faces of

751
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:52,000
people it's interacting with over the year. I think it's it's a kind in

752
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:58,039
a way, it's kind of a
pool. It's showing you and images of

753
01:02:58,239 --> 01:03:02,679
people living in other friend yeah,
or in other dimensions. It's like giving

754
01:03:02,679 --> 01:03:09,079
you a snapshot photo of other people
or other creatures or humanoid like preachers.

755
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:22,320
But she also fit maybe Lessia will
Yeah, yeah, so it's it's it's

756
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,840
fascinating. And again it's every picture
that's soughing different. Yeah, there's always

757
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,519
something there every picture. And you
would think that if it was a trick

758
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:35,119
of the light and you for taking
the picture, the same thing would appear

759
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:37,960
at each time. Yeah, you
know, if you're not moving to the

760
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:43,320
same angle, everything should be the
same. And it's obviously yeah yeah.

761
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,440
So uh, and that's about a
big theme of mind lately with research.

762
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:54,639
I'm going to is very, very
interested in the whole injured dimensional aspecting because

763
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:00,880
a lot of research being done right
now, like all the show Secret Skywalker

764
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:08,039
Ranch where they are pretty much smothing
that there is some type of bortle worm

765
01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:12,360
ball on the property right where things
are able to go in out of.

766
01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:18,159
And I think it's a good explanation
most types of paratorial activity. You know,

767
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:25,559
I don't necessarily believe there's ghosts of
spirits who haven't crossed over just hanging

768
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:30,440
yep. Yeah, but if you're
seeing like the woman Irene saw, a

769
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:35,960
time slip, it's part of all
time is happening at once, and you

770
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:40,920
leave it have not only just all
time and this plane that there could be

771
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,800
other planes and realities that have existence. Yeah, that could bleed over into

772
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:51,599
arts. So I think that's what
shall I Now, there's an interesting thing.

773
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:59,679
I've seen it all Murray's programs.
Might being a ands ancient aliens and

774
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:05,039
in might be in South America might
be perused as a slight mountainside where there's

775
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:09,880
this section of the wolf if you
want to call it, the wall,

776
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:15,000
the fat side of the mountain where
the local is sek al wall. Whoever

777
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:23,320
they were ancient people cars almost like
a doorway into yeah. Yeah, and

778
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:30,079
the locals. That's in Peru,
Yeah, added Brian Forrester, who runs

779
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:33,840
the Cousco Museum and he's very big
into all him. Yes, we did,

780
01:05:34,159 --> 01:05:40,159
yes, Neolithic locations all around the
world and he's been there several times.

781
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:45,119
And this squared faraway which is again
not perfectly symmetrical. And even in

782
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:50,599
the doorway there's an impression night in
the center. Now the local shamans will

783
01:05:50,639 --> 01:05:55,599
go in there and do ritual,
yeah whatever, but it's considered to be

784
01:05:55,719 --> 01:06:00,800
a portal. Yeah. Yeah.
And this is why mice theory is that

785
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,679
when people see spirits a lot of
the time they appeared to be standing in

786
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:09,800
doorway because I think the doorway acts
like a trans cabinet in a medium sales

787
01:06:11,719 --> 01:06:14,519
travel of people. Yeah, I
don't. We're indoorways, yeah, people

788
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:19,880
man in the acts. Yeah,
they're always indoorways looking at And then it

789
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:25,880
brings us back to stone ange because
you've got doorways. Yeah, there's somebody

790
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,599
with stone engine a reason, because
why people yeah, why do always really

791
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:34,960
signation struggle with all their effort and
time of stuff to put these bloody huge

792
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,599
stones. Oh you know, it's
surely got better things to do. But

793
01:06:38,719 --> 01:06:45,119
that's always extreme importance to sell reason, isn't it. So uh yeah,

794
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,199
maybe they're as when the show starts
and it goings from around the backing.

795
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:54,239
Yeah, yep, yeah, I
stop. Yeah, that's it rounded off

796
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:59,679
Barry. Yeah, so this is
why you got all these people like like

797
01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:03,719
you know, keep looking beneath the
layas the English heriage. You can't all

798
01:07:03,719 --> 01:07:08,599
this all this stuff. Yeah,
it's not just that look pretty that stuff?

799
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:12,599
Is that for a reason? Yeah, there were all tools and some

800
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:17,079
kind Yeah, you know. So
they're aligned astronomically and they think, oh

801
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:20,880
well it's a calendar in stone,
but it's a lot more than boom.

802
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:27,679
It's what we talk about with the
vibrations being in certain locations and maybe they

803
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,679
they do work as types of portals
or like the pyramids in Egypt, the

804
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,920
three big pyramids thought to be some
types of power poets, yeah, producing

805
01:07:38,119 --> 01:07:47,840
energy. Brian Forster was investigating there's
the one pyramid south of where the geesea

806
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:56,239
plateau Caramansas. There's this other step
pyramid like I forget how far south it

807
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:01,920
is, but it looks like it's
what it looks floated. It's it's destroyed

808
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:08,119
in such a way like it looks
like it had a mini the show up

809
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:14,400
many flution that something might have happened
maybe and these things worked power plants,

810
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:19,439
yeah, as an active Yeah,
their own chinnoogles. Yeah, see without

811
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:26,880
safety inspectus. So we're gonna have
to wrap this up. But thank you

812
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:33,119
everybody for listening to our little pub
chat here being okay radio yeah, apparent

813
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:36,960
the UK radio network. I'm not
sure which program this is gonna go out

814
01:08:38,039 --> 01:08:45,239
on, but josephs now Worth,
we're actually going to record our arms two

815
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:51,119
times. Cool. We're gonna do
our own show later this week in the

816
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:55,600
house, you know, so we'll
be sitting side by side. Yeah,

817
01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:00,640
that's brilliant. Yeah, we'll be
getting pissed while we're recording with show.

818
01:09:01,039 --> 01:09:05,199
It's around shower and you have to
edit it down and down for five minutes.

819
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,319
We're not involving and missing around okay. So that's the end of the

820
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:20,319
show. Thank you for listening,
Sugar, No sorry. So towards the

821
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:25,600
end of the week, we went
to the Men'swarms for a meal and there

822
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:30,479
we found out that the pub was
actually haunted. Yeah, how cool.

823
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,520
She all is pricked up didn't they
more, Yes they did. He pricked

824
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:39,039
up. I'm all you're talking,
explain what was happening to the ball.

825
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,560
Well, we we were at this
first of all, this pub. We

826
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:49,000
were talking with some of the staff, and then eventually the owner Glynn Barretts

827
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:56,399
Bennetts, I'm sorry, Glynn Bennetts, and the pub goes back. They

828
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,640
trace it back to the early eighteen
hundreds, but they think it's a lot

829
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,760
old and it is everything that you
would ever want in an old British or

830
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:10,199
in this case Welsh pub, the
stonework, all the old heartifacts, a

831
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:15,079
great atmosphere, bloody, brilliant food, Nike stem claws. Yea, the

832
01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:20,560
food was to die for. We
had such a lovely meal. And while

833
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:27,760
we were sitting there eating, we
were talking to the bartender, Joline,

834
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,479
and she was talking about some of
the activity that they had, their glasses

835
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:39,239
flying off the shelf and breaking clipboard
that was caught moving on video and we

836
01:10:39,359 --> 01:10:44,079
got to visually see all this video
footage the owner showed us. But while

837
01:10:44,119 --> 01:10:48,760
we were sitting there, they had
a line of glass mugs on hooks above

838
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:53,920
the bar, and all of a
sudden, two of them on their own

839
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:59,840
started swinging wildly back and forth.
Now the one stopped, but the other

840
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:02,119
kept going. For a few minutes. I kept going lolder than that.

841
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,800
It just kept going. Yeah,
I thought it would never stop anyway.

842
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:13,880
So out of this came an investigation. Yes it did. So on Friday

843
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:20,640
night we went and we did an
investigation of the whole pub. We again

844
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:26,800
have lots of evidence to go through. But we also had a sit down

845
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:31,239
with the owner, Glenn Dennett's,
and he was talking about the history of

846
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:38,039
the pub, their experiences. Very
very nice gentleman in fact idorm. I

847
01:11:38,119 --> 01:11:44,039
think he is really really super sweet
and fact, the whole staff everybody there

848
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:49,399
treated us kindly. We cannot rave
enough about the marin Arms men selarm mansil

849
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:59,239
Arms out now mantel Arms Pub over
eaten my bed done in south west wal

850
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:05,520
There we girl. So here's our
interview with Glenn about his pub. All

851
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,640
right, this is Mark and Irene
and we are in the Mental Arms pub

852
01:12:11,319 --> 01:12:20,479
here in dre Facil. What any
washman has just got to kill you for

853
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:26,640
saying that I'm a bloody What do
you expect I'm always going to butch your

854
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:31,560
face? But anyway, and why
I was I was people for fact is

855
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:38,199
Welsh for small town. Then interesting
here well, we are here with the

856
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:42,520
owner of the Mental Arms, Glenn
Bennetts. Now I'm Glenn. How long

857
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,920
have you owned this pub? Five
years? Twenty eighteen. We moved in

858
01:12:47,039 --> 01:12:56,600
here in julyge thirty first. It's
been in the trade for quite a while

859
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,279
and we saw his place and men
a wife came here and just got fealing

860
01:13:00,319 --> 01:13:02,800
for the place. It's a lovely
old traditional pub, you know, tiled

861
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:08,800
floors, stone walls, very old
and we just fell in love with it.

862
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:15,399
Now now you currently live here on
the lines too as well. Yeah,

863
01:13:15,399 --> 01:13:18,319
okay, so did you what did
you know about the history of the

864
01:13:18,399 --> 01:13:21,960
pub when you're buy it, or
that you know it was haunted? I

865
01:13:23,319 --> 01:13:28,560
never The previous landlord and lady are
spoken to previously and they didn't pick up

866
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,000
or really see or hear anything.
But we have quite a lot of activity

867
01:13:32,119 --> 01:13:36,399
and strange things happening. I since
we've been here, from the first week

868
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:41,640
of moving in, things of a
kitchen have happened. Yeah it should,

869
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:49,119
welpen would just happened in my house. Quite a few strange things and not

870
01:13:49,279 --> 01:13:54,439
just me, but my my wife
and my kids as well. You know,

871
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:59,399
my boy's bedroom is literally just above
us here and he hears so much

872
01:14:00,279 --> 01:14:02,439
sometimes going on Dad who comes through
and wakes me up because in the middle

873
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:10,079
of the guard over night, earlier
hours, fuds and bangs and he's nineteen

874
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:14,640
year old kickboxer and he says,
Dad, come check downstairs for pipers.

875
01:14:15,119 --> 01:14:16,960
There's a lot. It sounds like
there's a herd of elephants down there,

876
01:14:17,079 --> 01:14:20,880
you know, and you do you
know, get a lot of different things

877
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:25,880
happening here. Yeah, so the
age of the pub, you're not one

878
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:31,840
because the paperwork give a day eighteen
o nine, but it's definitely older.

879
01:14:32,279 --> 01:14:35,920
Yeah, he's definitely older than nap. There's a old coaching in and so

880
01:14:36,119 --> 01:14:40,319
the road which we're on, how
not a new road which the cars are

881
01:14:40,399 --> 01:14:43,880
on, but the old road was
who stepped out the front door and that

882
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:47,600
was the road. Now there's the
old coaching road from the fish Guard to

883
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:53,520
London and London to fish Guard and
we are This is part of the banker

884
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,960
mansell the states yea hen Mansel arms
sort of the pubber ritin it came with

885
01:14:59,399 --> 01:15:01,680
the barns if we've still got and
then a couple of fields over the road

886
01:15:02,399 --> 01:15:05,560
so as people come on a journey, I stop offered the coaching him,

887
01:15:06,039 --> 01:15:10,840
have something to eat, a few
ales, wrestle horses, graze of horses,

888
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,520
crash over night, and then carry
on with a journey. It used

889
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,880
to be quite a big estate.
Bank of mans got a man's family,

890
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,760
so yeah, we saw a lot
of the mansell graves up at part markham

891
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:27,039
Castle. It's an interesting location.
As well as saying to you the other

892
01:15:27,079 --> 01:15:31,600
day as our old tate a old
church or chackle up the road, I'd

893
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:38,600
like to say that five hundred yards
away in it's it's actually in the Doomsday

894
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:43,720
booking the Vatican as having healing properties
in the water which which flows through it.

895
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,960
It's pretty much a ruins now.
I still make out of a bow

896
01:15:46,079 --> 01:15:49,560
tower where the bow was and with
the fall wall, but the rest of

897
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:54,760
it is pretty much ruined. But
yeah, have you have you ever seen

898
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,199
it? Yeah, I've been one
of our regulars, Mark Griffiths on his

899
01:15:58,319 --> 01:16:02,800
fall. So see at some point
I'd love to see that. It's we

900
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:08,199
still got the water coming out of
the war. Yeah. So that church

901
01:16:08,359 --> 01:16:12,039
it was a church, was it? Yeah? That church was actually involved

902
01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:15,960
with the hangings that took place here
in the bowl we did. I've got

903
01:16:16,039 --> 01:16:23,079
no evidence of the hangings, but
I have had The Spiritualist church came out

904
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:27,439
story and they brought the story up
to me, which fled trace back that

905
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:33,000
the priest from the church somehow affiliating
quite a nasty fellow and Judge Jewry and

906
01:16:33,079 --> 01:16:39,800
execution at the time, and of
Judge Jeffries time. Yeah, and he

907
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,279
ended up actually hanging three people in
the barn. You don't know what for,

908
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,640
no idea, but apparently quite they
were kids, they weren't they were

909
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:53,199
key, Yeah, they were younger. They wouldn't they wouldn't grown men.

910
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:59,960
So this this is a story that's
been given by their mediums and spiritualists.

911
01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:03,600
Race is a bit of fake row
around the air, as people have talked

912
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:09,439
about. But yeah, apparently wasn't
a very nice man. But you used

913
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:15,520
to frequent the pub on a regular
basis, Yeah, little little devil,

914
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:23,720
and down in the actual seller you
were telling us about the fact that you

915
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:28,359
hear children's children's voices and laughter.
There have a few different things go on

916
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,000
in the cellar. So all our
beer is to spent for the beer fees

917
01:17:31,039 --> 01:17:34,880
on the bar, and that gets
from the cellar to the bar is pumped

918
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,640
by CO two gas. Yeah,
and we could be on the bar pour

919
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,840
and a pint and rules them a
beer stops running. So I ran out

920
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,199
change a barrel. You go downstairs
and the gas has just been switched off.

921
01:17:45,399 --> 01:17:49,119
It's a full gas canister there.
And sometimes that will happen. It

922
01:17:49,359 --> 01:17:53,920
happen for a space of five ten
minutes where you'll be up and down and

923
01:17:54,079 --> 01:17:56,520
now turning the gas on and off, and there's no reason why gas is

924
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:02,279
going to concern itself on and off. We have gone down to a salah

925
01:18:02,319 --> 01:18:10,560
before and there's a Greek of about
six of us down and it was crystal

926
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,319
clear. It was I could hear
him as I can hear you. It

927
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,920
was. There must have been seven
or eight children feeling you could hear the

928
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,239
footsteps and down the stairs. And
it went on not for a lot,

929
01:18:20,279 --> 01:18:26,000
only for about ten seconds, but
it was clear as day. And we

930
01:18:26,119 --> 01:18:28,319
all sort of looked each other and
was like did you hear? Did you

931
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:34,520
hear? And every single one own
net and how on go was this two

932
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,600
years ago? Two years ago?
About two years ago? Can we've got

933
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,960
a goos to recorder down and leave
it down there for my tuble ten minutes

934
01:18:43,039 --> 01:18:46,560
and not a problem. A problem. There's quite a bad feeling down in

935
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:53,359
the salad. I wonder more children
would be in the cellar. Yeah,

936
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:58,520
limickers probably wouldn't welcome to put put
any device down there. Yeah, I

937
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,159
have a night vision camera. We
put it down there in the dark.

938
01:19:01,279 --> 01:19:05,720
What do you mean there's a bad
feeling down there. It's a lovely saller.

939
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,880
It's one of the reasons I bought
the pub. I'm big into my

940
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:14,439
real ales and if you can find
a really nice underground, nice shooe mids

941
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,279
cellar, it keeps you fear a
real talk condition and for me that was

942
01:19:17,319 --> 01:19:19,960
a selling point. And it's a
lovely room. It's it's under it around,

943
01:19:20,039 --> 01:19:24,640
got a nice stone arshed roof to
it. It's not the biggest place,

944
01:19:25,159 --> 01:19:28,119
but it suits my knees down to
the ground well. As you go

945
01:19:28,199 --> 01:19:31,319
down the steps and you look to
the far side of the cellar where you

946
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:36,520
drop your beer up and down.
Or a few occasions I have seen I

947
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:41,479
don't know what I've seen, but
something caught my eye, whether it's a

948
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,960
shadow or something something dark and scary
which maybe you not want to go over

949
01:19:46,039 --> 01:19:49,159
there. It was on the far
side of that, sammon Ah, that'd

950
01:19:49,199 --> 01:20:00,520
be interesting. He's mine or I
really love those. Yeah yeah, and

951
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,760
you'll feel it. And I know
that the people say about the temperature change

952
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,159
when and when you do down cellar, it is colder. The calenus cellar

953
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:11,760
is kept cold, is kept around
eleven degrees because that's the temperature you store

954
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,880
your beer out down there. But
you still not every time ago down.

955
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,399
Occasionally you can only still get a
cold shiver. And it's nothing to do

956
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:25,720
with the eleven degrees of a temperature. Is because you don'ts walked over my

957
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,479
grave and you sort yeah, yeah, I'll have a little sugar like that

958
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,079
down you spot. I get that
when I'm at the far side niver barrel

959
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:38,000
drop. Yeah. Now you've showed
us some of the security video of some

960
01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:42,039
glasses flying out from under the body. Yeah. Yeah. It happens on

961
01:20:42,119 --> 01:20:48,199
a regular basis, really like glasses
like glass bill is quite expensive. Probably

962
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:53,880
go through fifty wine glasses a year, and it always seems to be the

963
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,880
wine glasses. I don't know why. It's not the point pots it's it's

964
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,279
the wine glasses we've seem to get
broken or regular basis and I've caught it

965
01:21:01,399 --> 01:21:06,439
lookally once on camera and it's like
the glass comes off and hovers and then

966
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,960
falls, and then another one shoots
straight across the floor and it doesn't fall,

967
01:21:11,119 --> 01:21:15,600
it's pushed. It's throne. Thesel
glasses over, they low down.

968
01:21:16,079 --> 01:21:20,439
Two shows up, So who shoves
up about two and our three foot off

969
01:21:21,279 --> 01:21:27,960
the floor. Yeah, it could
be children and the staff like Oldsby show.

970
01:21:28,399 --> 01:21:30,600
You know, he's broken a wine
glass and it wasn't me. It

971
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:35,039
wasn't me. And check the CCTV. You know, we've had the folders

972
01:21:35,119 --> 01:21:39,720
on the side out the back.
Just I've got that on CCTV. We've

973
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:44,760
had one of the folders. This
clipboard just moves, slides across the counter

974
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,119
and falls off onto the floor.
And and I've been nearest person's fore foot

975
01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:51,800
away from here, and I the
glasses which are hanging with ornamental glasses which

976
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,960
are hanging on the hooks above the
bar. Sometimes you'd just be sat down

977
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,439
and they'll start rocking. Yeah we
saw that. Yeah, we actually recorded

978
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,880
that on the other day and we're
here that one glass, the third from

979
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,760
the end. It was just and
it just kept going and it's got I'll

980
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,920
slowing down it's not a constant speed. Sometimes it will speed up and got

981
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,560
really really fast and man into the
glasses. He decided of it when ye

982
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:18,159
down, then speed up. You
know it's it is quite interesting with the

983
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:24,399
glasses above. Yeah, it's fascinating
activity here. Well, it's all.

984
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:30,079
Yeah, we've trying to feel of
the things which we pack the piano four

985
01:22:30,199 --> 01:22:32,239
or five times. I'm not saying
it's played a chune, because it hasn't

986
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:35,880
played a chune, but it's played
some Dorset notes and we've been set out

987
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:43,159
here normal unlocked all had a couple
of beers and all of a sudden almost

988
01:22:43,319 --> 01:22:49,479
like a drawlsphen tune, but it's
like a distorted version with completely out of

989
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:57,560
tune, and it'll last for not
on seconds behind maximum forty seconds and you'll

990
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,840
time you get up and run to
see what's going on. It stopped the

991
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:08,119
palm. We've had the bow.
I actually took the ball off, but

992
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:12,159
we had the bow which we used
to call time that would bring by itself

993
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,800
on a regular basis, life is
in the kitchen. I took it off

994
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,279
a few months ago because yeah,
I'd be busy doing silver and the bow

995
01:23:19,319 --> 01:23:23,560
would run. I'd come out to
see who was there, and no one

996
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:29,560
here, no one here. And
it was a regular, you know,

997
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,279
two three times a week. You
know, it's normally when I'm busier.

998
01:23:31,359 --> 01:23:35,319
So I've been kitchen prepping for service
in the evening before we opened the pub.

999
01:23:35,359 --> 01:23:39,479
In the bow Wood story, he's
come into the pub now and come

1000
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:44,079
back out and there's nobody here but
the bow run. Do you children,

1001
01:23:44,279 --> 01:23:47,079
how old are your chrouble? We've
got nineteen year old, an eleven year

1002
01:23:47,079 --> 01:23:50,560
old girl and a fifteen year old. They even good bothered the younger ones.

1003
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:57,239
Nothing ever happens upstairs. Nothing I've
not without anything, and they've been

1004
01:23:57,319 --> 01:24:00,920
that in the here. Does they
ever give not feelings? You know,

1005
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:05,920
not not as such. No,
it's more of a commotion. We're upstairs

1006
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:11,479
between here downstairs. You don't,
really, they don't. My daughts never

1007
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,880
come to me and fought or heard
or seen anything in never rings at all

1008
01:24:15,079 --> 01:24:18,439
when they come downstairs, just for
usual stuff. But you know, just

1009
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:24,159
what you come to live with you
you don't. After a certain time you

1010
01:24:24,199 --> 01:24:27,479
stop looking for this becomes part of
a normal. It's another wine rass is

1011
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,640
broken. One we go, oh
this is happen. You just you just

1012
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,680
almost make fun of it to a
certainly standard. Yeah, and it just

1013
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:38,039
becomes part of your you know,
you don't look out free. It just

1014
01:24:38,119 --> 01:24:41,359
becomes part of it. But you
know there's part of a feeling of a

1015
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,399
do you ever get a sense of
well, well, here's another question.

1016
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:50,079
Do you ever get nightmares? You're
ever having dreams? Has seen out of

1017
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:56,159
place? Like you're dreaming of a
different time. I don't really dream,

1018
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:02,840
but I do get a lot of
disturbed sleep. And because he's not really

1019
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,399
a dream, it's like a half
and half, almost like a day dream

1020
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:10,159
where okay, I couldn't tell you
what the dream was about or what I

1021
01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:14,439
was thinking about, but Simming's disturbed
me and my wife would cut it.

1022
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,840
Last night she was she found me
sat on the actually the bed twice.

1023
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:21,079
I was going to bed to sleep, and then twice I was actually sat

1024
01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:27,079
on the edge of the bed.
You remember, there no m to this

1025
01:25:27,279 --> 01:25:30,600
interesting siocusting. But if it was
I dreamed, I got no idea.

1026
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,600
I can't remember. You know,
I don't know nothing about it. But

1027
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,680
you actually rolled over and twice you
have to stroke my back and love me

1028
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:41,800
back on the mead And that was
it, And that happens. Do you

1029
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,239
ever get the feeling you're being watched? Oh? Yeah, yeah. I

1030
01:25:45,399 --> 01:25:50,159
used to clean my lines on a
Tuesday night. Quiet night. Tuesday normally

1031
01:25:50,239 --> 01:25:54,840
puts a bit earlier, so I
could lock up a bit earlier and clean

1032
01:25:54,920 --> 01:26:00,279
on my lines. Fore and uh, I just don't at that time anymore.

1033
01:26:01,399 --> 01:26:08,359
No, I had a couple of
times that happened to me a black

1034
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:12,119
figure. I was doing the lines
and this was being late. Yeah,

1035
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,720
it's something we've passed. Where we
sat now is part of one room with

1036
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:20,800
a pillar in it. This used
to be two separate rooms. Was different

1037
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,359
by design. You know, the
bar wasn't there. The bar was in

1038
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,479
the kitchen. I was a serving
hatch which he came through. This was

1039
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,920
a separate, private functional room.
Say that was a separate room. The

1040
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,079
bar was a separate room, and
a dispensing was done in the kitchen,

1041
01:26:36,119 --> 01:26:42,159
probably out of cass and jugs,
and passed through that hatch. And I

1042
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:45,239
was on the bar cleaning and for
lines out cloud one o'clock in the morning

1043
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:53,560
and planned it before about it being
a sectary of time. But swimming swayed

1044
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:58,359
past me at the corner of my
eye, and you know it styled me

1045
01:26:59,399 --> 01:27:03,680
scared, I tapp it startled me
and I then finished off doing the likes

1046
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:08,760
at a quicker BASSI. I was
speaking to some of the customers about even

1047
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:15,279
next day A customers a bad different
sensors and female when we got baber blessed

1048
01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:19,439
me passed away. Now we first
me he was. He came with the

1049
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,520
pub and the stories which he used
to tell me about any things which he

1050
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:28,600
used to experience. See her,
I'm always you know this happened mass line

1051
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,119
or glim this after mass light,
and there was always something which if he

1052
01:27:32,199 --> 01:27:36,880
could pick up on. But you've
heard children laughing, you heard coming up

1053
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:42,760
in another stair, has been ever
heard a voice anybody call your name?

1054
01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:47,359
Anything? Nothing like now and nothing
like that. And you get these feelings

1055
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:55,920
of some evil presence in the celibate. Not here, not I'll pay.

1056
01:27:56,079 --> 01:28:00,720
When did you say is the most
active place besides the bar? It demands

1057
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:05,520
null. I don't know what the
history of the snug is in relation to

1058
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:12,159
the thing, but some Christomers do
see things in the snow, are saying

1059
01:28:12,199 --> 01:28:16,680
to some one saw there's asked me
if you can get ghost dogs, because

1060
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:21,960
every time they walk they see something
like a dog sort of sack guarding for

1061
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:28,439
corner to your left. As you
walk into it, you do get quite

1062
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,920
a bit not it's not different to
move in here. But you'll always say

1063
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:38,399
that they can not finity sounds or
spoken were but like a whisper, mutual

1064
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:44,399
whispering, and these sounds as opposed
to actually anything, they can clearly make

1065
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,279
out and feelings. Obviously people,
you know, you'll get a draft,

1066
01:28:47,359 --> 01:28:49,880
but then it's an old pub,
so it could be a draft coming from

1067
01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:56,119
you know. It's it's all those
kinds of things I suppose in this room

1068
01:28:56,159 --> 01:29:03,520
here. Yeah, it's all right, just moved it did from very over.

1069
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,800
Really, see if I saw someone
just gone past me, that's why.

1070
01:29:08,319 --> 01:29:14,720
Interesting. Yeah. So the food
here is absolutely fantastic and could admit

1071
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,039
that really enjoyed that meal the other
very much, and they did it tomorrow.

1072
01:29:19,399 --> 01:29:25,119
Yeah, even may have to do
that. Like beef is l stounding

1073
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:32,319
a right opinion? Oh yes,
sir, where'd you get your nuts from?

1074
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:40,920
Well? You know this is this
is what I will also say is

1075
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,600
the fact that anybody visiting the specially
come from the States and come over to

1076
01:29:45,039 --> 01:29:55,159
the man swarms Paul Ravod for three
Yeah, and Southwest Wales. You've got

1077
01:29:55,239 --> 01:29:57,520
to come for the food. You
really have got to come for the food

1078
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,319
if nothing else. Okay, is
it's a lot of fun, isn't it

1079
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:05,720
to maybe bump into a ghost or
something fret a ghost in adult if you

1080
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:13,800
want that ancient if you want that
ancient English Welsh pub feeling, you've come

1081
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:18,960
here because the decor is perfect.
It's what I consider a pub coming from

1082
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:24,239
the States and the tech. It
was good. Yeah, this is good.

1083
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:28,399
Food is awesome. The drinks,
the drinks are great. So yes,

1084
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,760
definitely number the mental arms. Glenn, thank you very much for your

1085
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:36,279
time here, and we are about
to start our investigation, which we will

1086
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:42,920
summarize later on in this uh in
this show, so everyone, we will

1087
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,119
be back and we'll let you know
what we find. So that was our

1088
01:30:46,239 --> 01:30:53,479
interview with Glenn Bennett's and I will
say this, while we still have a

1089
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:59,439
lot of review to do on all
of our audio and video recordings, we

1090
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:04,640
did have a couple of experiences at
the pub, so it wasn't a lot

1091
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:12,039
of activity that we experienced personally,
but we know that we caught already some

1092
01:31:12,279 --> 01:31:16,279
incredible visual evidence, like God knows
what's on the rest of it, and

1093
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,560
until you start going through it,
we're not gonna know. I know,

1094
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:25,359
I'm sure there's a little all.
I have an eight hour flight home,

1095
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,840
so I've got to have my laptop
in front of me and I'm going to

1096
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,079
be viewing footage all the way home
to see what else we caught. But

1097
01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:41,800
we did capture a couple of very
interesting light anomalies. I think for me,

1098
01:31:42,359 --> 01:31:48,520
the most incredible capture that we got
so far was the mist. Yeah,

1099
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:54,359
there was a mist. It was
this big mist that just floated by

1100
01:31:54,560 --> 01:32:01,439
sideways. And I feel the best
saying that if the so far hasty moaning

1101
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,720
the moon. Yes, and I
caught that in the back of the pub.

1102
01:32:08,199 --> 01:32:11,800
I was sitting back there by myself. I didn't hear it at the

1103
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,680
time. It was when I played
the audio back. There's this guttural mode.

1104
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,640
It seems to be a cross between
a groun and the loan. Yeah,

1105
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:25,880
almost animal like, almost human like. I can't really explain it.

1106
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,960
So yeah, so we have lots
to go through. When we do,

1107
01:32:32,159 --> 01:32:39,279
we'll be putting it up on our
website at the Supernatural Research dot Net and

1108
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:45,199
of course parent normally UK Radio Network
page. Yeah, maybe YouTube Hello.

1109
01:32:45,359 --> 01:32:53,439
Actually, yeah, we'll be posting
it everywhere. So but that's not the

1110
01:32:53,760 --> 01:33:00,479
end of our adventures because staying in
this house, irene Are always told me

1111
01:33:01,359 --> 01:33:08,279
over the years that there are spirits
in this house, spirits of the former

1112
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:15,800
owner were going back to the early
nineteen hundreds, to some things that seemed

1113
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:21,000
to wander through. And this week
we've had our share of a few exterior

1114
01:33:21,039 --> 01:33:30,000
experiences like we had. Her niece
was over one night and they were interested

1115
01:33:30,039 --> 01:33:35,119
in the paranormal, so we were
showing them some equipment allowing them to try

1116
01:33:35,159 --> 01:33:41,800
to record some EVP, and we
were sitting in the guest bedroom, which

1117
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,760
is where I sleep, and all
of a sudden, I actually saw with

1118
01:33:46,039 --> 01:33:51,880
my eyes a light appear on the
pillow behind them. Their backs were to

1119
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:56,680
it, so they didn't see it. I didn't have my camera pointed at

1120
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:00,720
it at the time. It happened
so quickly. It last about a second,

1121
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:04,239
but it was a bright pin point
of light. It was like suddenly

1122
01:34:04,279 --> 01:34:09,880
appeared and then it disappeared, which
I found it interesting. There was another

1123
01:34:10,039 --> 01:34:14,640
night I was lying there trying to
sleep, and all of a sudden I

1124
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,439
started getting that sensation that I was
not alone in the room, I had

1125
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:27,520
that fight or flight kind of sensation, and it freaked me out a little

1126
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,239
bit, but I tried ignoring it
and eventually it went away and I went

1127
01:34:30,319 --> 01:34:38,079
to sleep, and yeahs that's saying
in the bathroom. Oh yeah, when

1128
01:34:38,079 --> 01:34:44,439
I got poked in the bone twice, but twice, I was sitting there

1129
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,920
brushing my teeth and it felt like
standing at the standing at the sink,

1130
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:53,319
brushing my teeth, and it literally
felt like somebody took their finger and poked

1131
01:34:53,399 --> 01:34:59,600
me in my left cheek twice.
Boom boom, And of course I turned

1132
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:04,720
around, nothing was there. We've
had some phantoms smells, yeah, smells

1133
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:10,039
still in the house. And then
the other night you felt like you've had

1134
01:35:10,079 --> 01:35:15,159
something in your face. Oh yeah, that's the stinky ghost. That really

1135
01:35:15,359 --> 01:35:17,359
was, and that's not one of
mine. I don't know what I tolt.

1136
01:35:18,279 --> 01:35:24,640
That was the day we went to
the cemetery that hardly felts. Yes,

1137
01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:32,479
and maybe it may have followed us
back mark. It might have,

1138
01:35:33,119 --> 01:35:43,640
But it smelled like old, stuffy
clothes. It was a horrible smill that's

1139
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:49,960
smelly, dusty, stale clothes.
And it was light in my face most

1140
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:54,119
of the night because I couldn't do
anything about it because I didn't want to

1141
01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:58,159
wake you up, so I thought
you'd be asleep, so I didn't want

1142
01:35:58,159 --> 01:36:02,800
to wake you up. But has
taken itself off nerve, So I'm quite

1143
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,920
happy by that. It's not hanging
around anymore, says she. We've got

1144
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:11,119
a bed to night and it would
be in my face again, and as

1145
01:36:11,159 --> 01:36:14,600
I told you, if it happens, I don't care wake me up.

1146
01:36:15,039 --> 01:36:20,520
But the other smells when we had
burning smell, which obviously is one of

1147
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:26,239
my ghosts. He had a full
journal the properties, so you always get

1148
01:36:26,279 --> 01:36:30,159
this oily burning smell when he comes
into the bedroom or any think, so

1149
01:36:30,319 --> 01:36:33,479
it must be all the smell must
be in life. It would have been

1150
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:41,560
on his clothes. Well, we
do you smell something in the hall light?

1151
01:36:42,279 --> 01:36:47,479
I smelled something kind of rancid in
the hallway. I didn't know what

1152
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:51,720
it smelled. I mean, the
only comparison I can do, and nobody

1153
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:57,279
in this house does this. It
almost smelled like somebody was smoking marijuana.

1154
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:02,439
It had that pungent oh to it, and I thought maybe it was a

1155
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:08,640
cleaner or something, or maybe one
of the dogs did something but smoke marouan.

1156
01:37:12,079 --> 01:37:15,520
But they I read it. Her
husband Brian came out and they smelled

1157
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,159
it, and they they all smelled
it, and then there was another smell.

1158
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:24,279
Let the open the bedroom. Now
I can't remember whether it smell was

1159
01:37:25,079 --> 01:37:29,319
do you that was a prete tree
sell on it? And no, no,

1160
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:35,960
it was different. It was a
different smell. Oh, and I

1161
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:41,720
think I walked in the bathroom also, and I thought I smelled the floral

1162
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:49,199
smell at one point, which which
wasn't the air freshener bays. Thing has

1163
01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:54,000
happened were and usually the smells of
there and two realized what they are and

1164
01:37:54,079 --> 01:37:58,319
then they just disappear. Yeah.
Gone, I haven't smelled any of those

1165
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:05,119
smells since that was midweek. Yeah. So the house has behaved itself.

1166
01:38:06,279 --> 01:38:09,920
It really has behaved. It seth. I'm quite proud of it. It

1167
01:38:10,119 --> 01:38:16,159
didn't do anything to terrorize you,
which I was hoping it wouldn't. I

1168
01:38:16,319 --> 01:38:20,279
was hoping it would. Well,
yeah, yeah, mister bravely. Anyway,

1169
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:29,520
you know, it was quite well
behaved. But there you go.

1170
01:38:30,359 --> 01:38:34,079
Well that I still good tonight to
go through it yet. Yeah, I've

1171
01:38:34,119 --> 01:38:38,359
got one more night. I've got
to wake up real early in the morning

1172
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:44,560
to get driven down to Cardiff and
catch my flight first to Amsterdam. I

1173
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:49,279
have to go east before I can
come west, so that'll be a very

1174
01:38:49,359 --> 01:38:54,800
long day. But again it gives
me the opportunity to go through all of

1175
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,760
our footage. And you talked about
at the beginning of that. When you

1176
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,039
first come down here, one of
the first things are presented, all put

1177
01:39:01,119 --> 01:39:06,880
on new was the ring. Yes, well, I can tell you right

1178
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:15,560
now I am actually wearing the ring, which we have nicknamed the Demon Ring

1179
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:20,840
of a Malfatana. We've discussed this
ring in numerous shows in the past.

1180
01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:30,600
Its history goes back a long way, and the artwork on this is phenomenal.

1181
01:39:30,359 --> 01:39:35,479
Now, one of the things we
did was when we first got when

1182
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:41,239
I first got here, we took
the ring and we started taking a lot

1183
01:39:41,359 --> 01:39:46,840
of high definition quality photos of it. And what did we find irene faces

1184
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,439
in the ring, in the eyes, the faces, the eyes, the

1185
01:39:51,600 --> 01:40:01,199
nose especially. Now here's the thing. Most people would try to dismiss what

1186
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:06,199
we saw as paradolia. I'm going
to sit here and tell you we photographed

1187
01:40:06,279 --> 01:40:13,199
this ring several times from several different
several different angles, from the same angle,

1188
01:40:14,039 --> 01:40:18,760
and the images that appeared in the
ring changed. It's tightening up on

1189
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:23,680
my finger right now, you see
a little bit. Yeah, so I'm

1190
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:27,000
sorry about that, but he is. No, that's fine. I don't

1191
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,239
want to come up. But the
point is you're out of the three stone

1192
01:40:30,319 --> 01:40:34,960
fall. No, we're not worn
that fall and half maybe if stone heavier

1193
01:40:35,039 --> 01:40:40,000
than me, I wear it on
the same finger that one. Yeah,

1194
01:40:40,119 --> 01:40:44,680
my fingers are nothing like yours.
And yet he's fitted your finger. I've

1195
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:49,199
admits any one's finger that able speak. I have man hands. Yeah,

1196
01:40:49,239 --> 01:40:55,199
but he doesn't. It looks to
me like he he will all tree some

1197
01:40:55,359 --> 01:40:59,239
ice to the person who's going to
put him on, and then when he's

1198
01:40:59,279 --> 01:41:01,880
own there, if he likes you, he will tighten and you'll have a

1199
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,199
job getting him up. Yeah.
But the point is, oh yeah we

1200
01:41:05,279 --> 01:41:11,960
do now, Yeah, you welcome
off. The point is right over a

1201
01:41:12,039 --> 01:41:15,640
year ago, I took the photograph
and in the reflection of his nose was

1202
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:21,359
a man's face. Paradolia, That's
what I put it down to when I

1203
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:25,479
put it out on Facebook. But
it was a man's face and I had

1204
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:30,399
a mop of dark hair. Now, this week we've been taking photographs,

1205
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:38,560
has been all these different faces in
the nose in the right eye of the

1206
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:44,239
ring. But then with the photographed
the left eye, and the man from

1207
01:41:44,279 --> 01:41:48,840
a year ago that was reflecting through
the silver on the nose was in the

1208
01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:54,520
right eye. Now, word that
one ill, that's not paradolia. How

1209
01:41:55,279 --> 01:42:00,520
does this image taken a year ago
reflect from a different and part of the

1210
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:05,079
ray like it's looking at the allne
And then when you're also when you were

1211
01:42:05,199 --> 01:42:10,640
taking the photographs of the eye,
it was like, now these as are

1212
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:20,640
protruding rubies or garnets right curved,
yes, curved curved stones. But when

1213
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:26,640
you actually look at a photograph,
it's like you're going through a cave with

1214
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:33,760
d like deep into an underground cave. Another world you're looking into. Yeah,

1215
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:40,119
yeah, one theory. I just
blurted out, not saying that this

1216
01:42:40,319 --> 01:42:43,239
is what I believe in any way. Did to end up on you?

1217
01:42:44,319 --> 01:42:48,680
Yeah, I like this. He
slid off earlier and now I have to

1218
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:53,119
really tug and twist him if I'm
going and get him up. But it's

1219
01:42:53,159 --> 01:42:59,159
not too tight either. It's funny
it will be. It's kind of like

1220
01:42:59,319 --> 01:43:01,520
the one ring in the Lord of
the Rings movies, how it always changed

1221
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,840
sizes for the wearer. That's exactly
what this ring does. You know,

1222
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:14,439
I often wonder whether they got that
idea from this ring. Maybe my repose

1223
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:19,880
all in the ring or something could
be. But here's someone. I note.

1224
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:30,319
Each image that we caught in the
ring was either actual full people's faces,

1225
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:34,319
sometimes their whole upper torso body.
There's a woman with long hair.

1226
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:40,359
You could see her upper torso,
couldn't really tell exactly what she was wearing,

1227
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:44,079
but it was a normal human face. And then there were times we

1228
01:43:44,239 --> 01:43:53,319
got these dogging, twisted guardoyl demonic
almost kind of faces. And I don't

1229
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:57,720
really think that, you know,
some people they looked at this, if

1230
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,079
they looked at those photos, they
might think, oh, you're seeing demons

1231
01:44:00,399 --> 01:44:03,960
and hell. But the one thing
about this ring, and we've done a

1232
01:44:04,079 --> 01:44:09,600
lot of research on this ring,
and even though the face it has Ram's

1233
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:15,840
horn, big long nose and chin, big whiskers on it, wet thoughts

1234
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,800
since it was found in Italy,
it might have been a representation of Pan

1235
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:28,640
And then we research going back even
further, two different types of old gods

1236
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:34,439
worshiped that had rams horns. There
was one from who was the Babylonians or

1237
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:39,359
who was it? You mentioned what
was the name of that. I'm a

1238
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:45,039
mascul I'll have to It's on our
page. We actually have a big write

1239
01:44:45,079 --> 01:44:51,000
up on our Facebook page to Demon
Ring of Amafton it, we put more

1240
01:44:51,039 --> 01:44:54,640
of the history of the Ring there. Just don't remember it off the top

1241
01:44:54,680 --> 01:45:00,720
of my head. But I got
this impression that we're seeing in the Ring

1242
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:09,239
the reflections is not so much representations
of evil spirits or demons or whatnot hell,

1243
01:45:09,359 --> 01:45:15,239
but maybe other dimensions, other realities, people in other places, because

1244
01:45:16,079 --> 01:45:20,880
some are all twisted and looked like
it could be evil, Others look like

1245
01:45:21,279 --> 01:45:28,840
regular people. Others it was just
strange, hard to explain, very hard

1246
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:32,640
to explain. But we'll be posting
some of these photos on our Facebook page,

1247
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,159
the Demon ringom of Malfa Thomas,
So please check it out on Facebook

1248
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:42,039
and you could see the newest pictures
and let us know for yourself what you

1249
01:45:42,199 --> 01:45:45,800
think. Again, some people come
back and say it's just paradolia. That's

1250
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:50,760
fine, it's impossible, you know. We're not ruling that out. But

1251
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:58,359
we do find these faces to be
very defined and very strange. Oh so

1252
01:45:59,039 --> 01:46:00,920
now he needs to go back look
at this. She won't come off my

1253
01:46:01,039 --> 01:46:04,159
rate. I'm pulling straight. He
won't come off. I haven't you have

1254
01:46:04,279 --> 01:46:10,199
to fool him more. Thank you, by the way, a little tongue

1255
01:46:10,239 --> 01:46:13,920
like you. You've come back in
this safe. There's a in there.

1256
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:21,520
Oh good lord. So these ten
days have gone by way too fast,

1257
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:29,760
way too quick. But rest assured. I will be making more trips out

1258
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:34,079
here very soon. I do love
this country, and chris My, you

1259
01:46:34,239 --> 01:46:40,239
love these people. Well, the
people are all right kind. I'm annoying,

1260
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:45,159
really, you know. Oh no, I've thoroughly enjoyed being here with

1261
01:46:45,239 --> 01:46:50,319
Irene and her husband, and they
welcome me with open arms, treated me

1262
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:57,000
like royalty while I was here.
So I'm gonna miss steing here, miss

1263
01:46:57,279 --> 01:47:00,479
miss it very much. Then we
go back to the old routine us talking

1264
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:04,600
on the skype. You've had a
lot of experiences in different food Jujo on

1265
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:13,640
roast dinner today. Well I did, yes, the big, big Sunday

1266
01:47:14,119 --> 01:47:17,760
roast dinner, which is a tradition
over here. And then I also had

1267
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:24,520
a traditional English fry up breakfast.
Yeah you did, Yep, that was

1268
01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:30,359
that was interesting as well. But
I will say here's something and don't get

1269
01:47:30,359 --> 01:47:33,319
offended by this. I've had people
always tell me the food over here is

1270
01:47:33,399 --> 01:47:40,439
horrible. Everybody always says that I
can tell you right now that that's Bologney,

1271
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,279
because I don't think I've had anything
terrible since i've been here. The

1272
01:47:44,399 --> 01:47:51,640
food has been great. The countryside
is incredible. You know in America everything

1273
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:57,640
is separated with fences. Yeah,
wooden fences, stone walls. Who have

1274
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:02,399
everything. I love that the hedge
rows in both England and Wales that I'm

1275
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:10,079
seen so far, that separates properties
and whatnot. Everywhere's hedgerows and dotting the

1276
01:48:10,159 --> 01:48:15,479
countryside, even looking out the back
window here into Irene's garden, which is

1277
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:20,000
absolutely love. Late we've had some
tea outside in the garden a couple of

1278
01:48:20,239 --> 01:48:25,760
the sunny days we've had. It's
been very wet weather on otherwise, but

1279
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:29,640
it's a very beautiful sight. The
only thing I'm gonna miss is in the

1280
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,640
fall hearing the Welsh Bigfoot, the
traymore screamed from down from the hills.

1281
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:42,119
Yeah, so yes to Helen.
So that's been my trip over here to

1282
01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:46,479
the UK, my very first trip. I've had a phenomenal time. Said

1283
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:51,039
wow more times than Irene could count. I wish I had a pound for

1284
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:55,119
every time you did say wow.
You'd be very rich. It would be

1285
01:48:55,279 --> 01:49:01,920
very rich. Wow Wow Wow.
Looking at wow the leg I said,

1286
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:06,680
I am very much looking forward to
coming back soon because I enjoyed it so

1287
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:11,640
much, and of course I love
being here with you and Brian, and

1288
01:49:14,399 --> 01:49:17,319
I've have a wide open future ahead
of me. Thank oh God, I've

1289
01:49:17,399 --> 01:49:20,239
thoroughly enjoyed this. It's the main
thing, that's all we want it.

1290
01:49:21,079 --> 01:49:28,920
So thank you all for tuning into
this very special edition of the Paranormal UK

1291
01:49:29,239 --> 01:49:34,199
Radio Show, the flagship show here
on the Paranormal Radio. No Paranormal UK

1292
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:38,760
Radio in it or I almost blew
it that time. Usually you haven't want

1293
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:42,520
to blow Oh makes a change for
you to be the lasted too long,

1294
01:49:43,159 --> 01:49:47,119
it's it's done a lot. Well. How many times have I misnamed the

1295
01:49:47,279 --> 01:49:54,680
massile arms man so arms. If
you want to come and eat somewhere really

1296
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:59,039
fantastic in this country, the man
so alms. We'll be put in the

1297
01:49:59,119 --> 01:50:03,399
address on the website and a telephone
number in case you want to a table.

1298
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:08,800
Yes, Plus they have lots of
good spirits, both the beverage kind

1299
01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:14,720
and ghost and off the ghostly colline. Yes, indeed of the ghostly kind.

1300
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:23,439
Plus also entertainment. Yes, absolutely
lovely, lovely people, very lovely

1301
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:28,920
people. Actually, Irene got to
see me dance very badly. Lastly I

1302
01:50:29,039 --> 01:50:32,600
have to most badly too, not
as bad as me. I was doing

1303
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:39,960
the White Man overbite. Oh good
lord. Well everybody again, thank you

1304
01:50:40,079 --> 01:50:44,640
for tuning in, and what other
thing? Okay, go ahead. In

1305
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:46,840
the future, if they're looking for
me, they'll be able to find me

1306
01:50:47,119 --> 01:50:57,399
at the mansalarms Port River in southwest
Wales. That she'll be there having her

1307
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:04,680
wine and tonic lemon in a glass
of ice. That's twice twice slightly lemon.

1308
01:51:05,079 --> 01:51:11,680
Yes, I seistize. Okay everyone, we will be back next week

1309
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:17,640
with one of our regular shows.
So you all have a wonderful week and

1310
01:51:18,319 --> 01:51:23,199
wish me a safe flight home and
we will catch you next time. Be

1311
01:51:23,279 --> 01:51:27,439
good humans and have a great evening. We'll talk to you so bye.