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Yeah, man, jes right there, my man, shout out DJ fuse

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Man, come on, we're here. She hard, my boy, Jesus's

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hard shit hard real hard. Pause. How are yo? Are we running

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with no Diddy dog? Hashtag this
no Diddy yo seeing seeing jeez? What's

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up with you? Man? Good
everything, blessed man. I'm honored to

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be here, first of all,
man, shout out to ninety two point

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three and everything everything you guys do. Man, it's a pleasure to be

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here now having that Why real ninety
two three? Why iHeartRadio? What do

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you mean? Why? Why are
you here today? Bro? Why is

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this important to you? Bro?
Bro? Right? Legend young legend Man,

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he's he's I would say, I
would say, like legend already,

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man, like you already put it
enough work for that for that title.

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I feel now. He was a
big supporter of this interview happening man,

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Yeah, yeah, shout out to
him. I've been tapping in him for

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a minute every time I see him. It's just good vibes and good energy.

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Bro, and my dog would just
tapping with me, like keep doing

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what you're doing. It's like real
motivated and ship like that, Like what

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you would motivate on my motivate strength. That's crazy. He's never once motivated.

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I had a compliment, jack I've
never said, not another cash to

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back, not a callback. I
don't know your background. I don't give

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you back. He does give me
back rub sometimes my guy got hands?

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Who's that? Who's I don't tell
you you're I don't want to tell you

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the legend you do come on only
when you feel bad. Yeah, but

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listen in retrospect, I'm I'm a
fan of Yeah, what's up. I'm

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a fan of what's happening with us
latinos. And I feel like we are

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in a position cool as Jackie,
Jeff and I to yeah, to help

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this move forward and amplify what's going
on. So, yeah, we gotta

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help whatever we gotta do to shine
light on our people and and just you

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know, send that tongue that we're
in this together. For sure. Mine

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is the sing going on streaming platforms
is crazy, right, congratulations on that.

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Right. I appreciate you, And
you know, if it was up

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to us, we'd come in here
and play whatever the fuck we want.

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But if not knowing man company,
right, But what we can do is

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shed light on your situation and shed
light on your music as well. Right,

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bring you up here and share you
with our audience. I appreciate that.

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I appreciate you guys for having me, and like I feel like,

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you know, I see you guys
helping a lot, and you know,

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in the community with the artists and
shit like that. I think it's really

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dope, man. And anything I
could ever do to help you guys out,

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then you have my resources. One. I appreciate you for having me.

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Yes sir, Yes, sir,
We'll need you for Cruise Cares team.

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But I did reach out to because
I know you do the high school

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stuff right, And remember I think
I think I tapped in. I was

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like, Yo, we're gonna start
hitting high school showing if you want to

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pull up with us. Yeah,
yeah, he told me that. I

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was like, damn, that's crazy
because I've always wanted to do that.

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I just I just didn't know how
to get myself in the door like that

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because I do everything myself. So
I'm just kind of just keep it real,

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like like my my whole like come
up is just thugging it out.

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I just figured it out like flowing
structures. Yeah, Like I just I

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just like I don't really have a
plan sometimes, I know what, I

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think that's the icing how most of
us grow up on you know, I'm

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just what you got we saw growing
up, right, It's what we saw

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growing up and it's who we become. Yeah, yeah, I think I

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think it's all about how you grow
up to if you grow up and you

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just work with what you got,
you're just like your mindset is already programmed

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to work like that. So that's
what I do. I just I really

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don't have no plan sometimes, and
I just kind of go as I go,

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Like I try to hitting up the
high schools talking to principles and stuff

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like that, but they'll kind of
just like ignore us and stuff like,

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you know, they wouldn't like pay
attention, and so I just went ahead

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and just did it in the parking
lot outside. Yeah that's right. Oh

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my god, I don't want to
let us in. We're gonna we're gonna

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show yall we hear. You know
what. What's the hardest part about being

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you know, in the and self
funded, I say, like everything,

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Yeah, just trying to take everything
in at one time, Like I wish

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it was just like getting in the
studio and releasing music, Like there's so

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much to it, Like like I've
had to like program my mindset, like

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to become a business now, Like
I have to think like outside the box

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and how numbers work and how everything
works. Yeah, yeah, everything like

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really just really just thugging it out. Sometimes I don't even know how to

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do things and I just do them. And sometimes you got to go through

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that to take that l or whatever
you got to do to continue to prosper,

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you know. Yeah, one thing
I think we can all agree on

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is you got to take l's to
win. It takes l's, It takes

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losses to win, takes lessons to
win, right, What's been your biggest

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lesson so far? My biggest lesson
would be patience. I think patience.

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I feel like sometimes I've done things
out of just like being impatient, and

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like the outcome just wasn't there,
you know, Like when I drop a

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song like I just I wouldn't even
do a rollout for it. I'll just

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drop it, and I knew like
if I did a rollout for it properly,

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it would be like ten times better, you know. But it's just

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it's just me trying to be consistent
while trying to manage everything else as far

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as the merchandise, the business side
of the music, the marketing, the

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promotion, the videos, the booking, booking models, booking videographers, booking,

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everything. So my mindset is just
like everywhere sometimes and sometimes I'm only

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give I'm only able to give certain
things a certain amount of attention. But

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I think I'm learning as I go, you know, and I'm meeting good

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people around me as I go that
are willing to take some weight off my

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back, you know, and that's
how the team just is getting developed.

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Yeah yeah, we look like you
have good people around you. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. You got to
have people that care about you all the

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time and that that that's sending for
your best interest, you know, yeah,

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and believe in you. Yeah,
exactly, exactly, because because that

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sucks. Like sometimes you may have
like day ones you're with, but once

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you start on this journey, it's
just sometimes you got you see some true

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colors from people that you wish were
never there, and it sucks because they're

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like your brothers, are your day
ones that you grew up with. But

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sometimes you know, you just have
to separate yourself from from something that doesn't

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want to see you prosper in life, like you've been through that, like

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you've had to do that. I
always go through that. I'll still go

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through it to this day. Like
I could count the real friends I have

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with with just like my hands.
That's it. Like probably like five maybe

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like real real real one right now, no, you know, but like

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you, I'm talking about like day
ones that have been there from the jump,

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like bro, I would only say
maybe like a few, like maybe

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three four left, you know.
And it's crazy because like we all started,

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like I started this with a dream
when we were youngsters and shit,

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and we it's just crazy to see
that, like the process. You know,

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it's crazy to see the process.
But what was baking. You're like,

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yo, I gotta, I gotta, I'm gonna be a rap star.

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I'm gonna do this honestly, Like
it was just all you know,

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everything into that. We were just
kids, man, and and and I

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just I've always had a passion for
what I do. I would save up

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like everything I had, I got
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own stuff, and you know,
I would go to Hollywood Boulevard Venice all

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the time and just wrap over with
the speaker right there my boy will be

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handing out flash cards back when there
was uh Facebook and SoundCloud, and I

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mean there's still Facebook and SoundCloud,
but it was popping back there. You

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know, I didn't have no mice
face, but like I did back in

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the way when I was like an
elementary. Yeah, but ahead, no,

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it's not. But you know,
my boy was just passing out the

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flash cars. You know, I
just ride my info down and and I've

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always had had a had a like
a passion for it, you know,

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and and like joke, it's not, bro, it's not. I appreciate

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that. Bro. People don't look
at you. Some people look at you

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crazy, right yeah, yeah,
but that's something you got to go through

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as an artist. You have to
break that. Like it's just like it's

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a crazy journey man, Like that's
grassroots you gotta do to like get to

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where you are in the game.
That's grassroots artist development, right. Yeah.

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Yeah, that's pretty much what it
is, my boy. And and

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it takes a lot longer to to, you know, get to from point

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A to point B, because you
know, you're doing it all yourself when

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you're independent. But I feel like
sometimes it's a lot more worth it and

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not saying that I'll never sign to
nobody, but yeah, I mean,

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I just feel like I've worked so
hard for this, my whole life,

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and and and like I would like
to be with somebody that truly wants to

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see me succeed rather than just make
a buck off me. You know,

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right, right, right, right
right, I think much much. Don't

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give me a check, give me
your career. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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real talk, and much to your
point of like it takes uh,

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it's taking a long time. It
takes uh. It's it's also stayed true.

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I think when you stay true,
it takes much longer. You know

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what I'm saying. You're not nip
pustleman, Like That's that's something I tell

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myself too sometimes where like y'all,
it's not you're not there yet, but

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you're not switching up dog, And
once you get there, it's gonna be

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that much more worth it because you
did it by your own rules and you

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did it. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying, on your own term

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type ship. So yeah, man, and maybe it's not a maybe,

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it's not a signing, it's a
partnership. That's what rusted right, Yeah,

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you know he built a Leverty yeah, nipped it too with the Atlantic,

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I believe right. Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, you're a

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student, bro, that's good.
I'm trying my best man, and I

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appreciate that. Like, man,
I don't even know y'all was going to

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go crazy like this right now,
you know, like we're going like you

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know what I'm saying, Like I
appreciate you, but I appreciate that.

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No, yeah, I really appreciate
it. Like I'm honored, I'm blessed

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to be here for real, Like
you know it. It's dope, man,

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it's dope. I can't even believe
I was. I was talking for

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it like I'm like, I'm like, I'm like tripping right now, Like,

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dam I don't really hear you hight
for this ship right now? No.

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No. Sometimes sometimes you know,
it's like it's like it's like a

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little age, you know. Sometimes
it's like, yeah, bring anything,

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man, that's the problem. They
won't they won't let you out here with

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it. We can take a hold. I got you, I got you.

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What's your writing process? Like do
we go in the booth and just

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start figuring it out or are we
writing and are we calculating it? Oh?

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Man, it's just I really like
planning my stuff out. I don't

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really like going in the studio and
doing it there and there. I made

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some dope songs like that too,
but I don't know, man, I

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like I like taking my time on
it. I feel like a song is

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going to be here for a long
time and and yeah forever, gotta Yeah,

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your work gotta be you know what
I mean. You gotta be bro,

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gotta be solid. So I like
writing writing. I'll write a song

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like maybe here and there, it
depends what kind of song it is.

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Like the storytelling is crazy for me, Like that's that's some of my hardest

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process. That's like my hardest process
right there, of like storytelling, cause

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sometimes like when you when you build, when you make a song based off

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of a story, it's so crazy
because now you like, I feel like

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an author sometimes you know, I
gotta I gotta, I gotta piece it

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up like with a climax, and
you know what I'm saying. Then it

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becomes an audiobook as you recorded.
Yeah, but that's some of my biggest

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like music right there. And I
don't even have a lot of storytelling stuff

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out yet, but I got a
whole project of that, like ready to

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go. But like I have,
I have, I have stuff in the

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vaulte. But I'm just like I
still got to continue growing in my career

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to build those resources to push it
as big as I could push it,

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for sure. Yeah, so break
down Mud for us Mud. It's just

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you know, like keep it real
with you. Like I'll be doing the

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West Coast stuff and the wavy stuff, and I just really wanted to do

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it just for just for people to
vibe to in the club. You know

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what I'm saying, something that's something
that's catchy. I know it's not as

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lyrical because like like I don't know, just like catchy songs is just like

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a different writing process for me.
And I just do it for like the

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vibe, not really like the lyrics
gotta be hard too. But I could

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prove my lyrics on some on some
real rap shit like that's that's I could

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do that. But I like to
do a little bit of everything. Some

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for the ladies, some for the
clubs, and just some deep stuff that

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you're just gonna feel in your heart. That's that's my goal to right there,

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the stuff that you get the goosebumps
from. Man, that's my ship,

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my boy, like that. That's
that's what I really love right there,

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Like, that's that's the definition of
seeing g like my my storytelling for

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sure, you gotta tap into emotions
for that, have to Yeah, yeah,

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like real real life. Yeah,
Lost Soldier was one of one of

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my biggest crowns. It's crazy,
bro Like when I go for perform it,

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like I was just in Boise like
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when I go down there and I
just I see my fans and and and

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they just like they're singing there.
They're pouring their heart out. Some are

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crying, some are hugging me.
That song is just like has impacted so

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many people in like a crazy way. And that song did take me a

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while to develop too, So I'm
glad I stood patient with that when it

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rolled it out the proper way.
Yeah, man, stick to that process.

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Yeah, I gotta stick to it. Yeah, I gotta trust it.

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Do you believe latinos and hip hop
are overlooked underpaid? I wouldn't say

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like overlooked anymore, but I feel
like maybe like not underpaid, not not

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the not the corrillos and stuff,
but for sure maybe the hip hop.

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And honestly though I think it exceeds
ethnicity. It's just about creating your worth,

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you know, as as no matter
what you you know who you are

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and what you are, creating a
work for yourself. Yeah, and it

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takes time. It takes time,
man, But I feel like there's a

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lot of talent in my lane,
like hip hop that are that are getting

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recognized now more than back then,
and I think that's really good to see.

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Is there a list of people you
want to work with? Oh?

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Man, Yeah, that's okay,
there there is. But like the thing

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about me is like my taste of
music is just everywhere. Like I like

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all types of music. Yeah,
yeah, I mean Colin Harris, it's

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not far Fett. Yeah. I
mean it just depends on what type of

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song it's going to be. Yeah, if it's going to be something for

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the club, obviously some lit like
ice spice, you know, but if

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it's something like really deep and storytelling, then there would be somebody like maybe,

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I mean, Logic's out the game. He's not really doing it no

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more. He needs to. He's
dope, man, He's dope as fuck.

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I mean, Joining Lucas, he's
always I think I think I like

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to do something with Joining Lucas on
some real storytelling ship like yeah, something

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crazy. When I see his ship, it reminds me of like me in

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the way, like I kind of
like, I mean, I'm not there

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yet where he's at, but like
visuals, yeah, crazy, He's definitely

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in the lane that I see myself
in. Yeah you know that's just me,

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yes, sir you Yeah. He
was just up here the other day

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with a tour bus and ship.
I was like, yo, that's insane.

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He pulled it up down. Yeah. I was like I was trying

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to take a picture in front of
it. Like as far as tour goes,

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what's what's the furthest place music has
taken you? I say, like

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like Arkansas? Yeah yeah, it
was crazy, dog, it was crazy.

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People knew me out there. I
was like, what, it's crazy.

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I used to live Indiana when I
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So yeah, it reminded me of
like Indiana's not so much to the south,

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but it kind of got that vibe
a little bit. I used to

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catch those little little fireflies. Yeah
yeah yeah yeah really real yeah yeah yeah

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yeah yeah yeah real. B So, how did you end up in Indiana?

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Like under one circumstances? Oh,
like, uh, my mother was

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a single mother out here and she
uh, like my stepdad was out there.

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Why she went out there? Like
you made your real dad once?

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Yeah? Yeah, once he's in
Mexico. Yeah, ship did it suck?

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Uh? Ship? I don't know. I was young, bro,

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I was like twelve years old.
I think it was just kind of a

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little awkward for what do you say? We just we just hugged each other.

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And I don't know why. I
never known him, but but I

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cried. I was twelve. Yeah, Like it was just tripped to me

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me, like I never met this
man, but like I feel like I

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feel like like you just felt like
he was somebody that is very important my

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life, you know, it was. It was. It was a crazy

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experience. Yet, but I've seen
him. I met him only one ship.

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Yeah, man, favorite la food
spots. Oh, I wouldn't say.

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I wouldn't say it's l A or
you know what, they gotta want

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to cut a hay hane. What
is it called brot or something like that.

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Yeah, yeah, I know,
taco spot. I don't know.

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Yeah, but I'm a dog lover. I know, I know me too.

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The name kind of the name kind
of threw me off, but all

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the way off. Hey, check
it out. They got some They bring

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him in from from Mexico every week. Right, let's go boom. It's

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a big ass one. And then
they put cheese on top. On top

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of that, they put outside,
they put the bar, and then then

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they put los los for you're on
top. Your monkeys are hitting right now.

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Yeah, just kick this, I
kidd you. Now, that's the

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best talk I've ever tried in my
life. Yes, try it out.

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Yeah, we're going there bro.
Yeah yeah it's pederal, yeah something like

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that. I'll get you guys.
It was federal. They're due for a

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name change, y yeah, yeah
they that might be good marketing right now.

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You never know. Dogs all the
pederals yo. Man. We appreciate

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the time, man, the time. Thank you so much for stopping by.

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We appreciate you with support you dog
all day. But man, I

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appreciate you guys. Thank you guys
for having me. Man, it's a

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it's a blessing. It's a honor
to be here. Thank you that man.

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I g plug away. Let's go, y'all just follow me everywhere under

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at C and G. That's it
C and G man. But out now,

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Yes, Sir, Solo mob in
the Building, Man too easy,

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Cruse Show, real naety two three, Let's get it