And so thanks to everybody for the fulsome lapsed Funk feedback. It was a
journey we won't soon forget. But as I mentioned, the mail bag has
been brimming for months now with some great missives and insights and you know,
warranted appreciation prompts from members of the Solar System. Boss. Sure, I
couldn't believe my eyes on this one, considering how we started this mailbag episode,
this one from Brandon, Jack and JP. I don't listen to every
episode of Under the Cinemat, but I couldn't resist the Punisher. Sorry,
I'm sorry that you couldn't resist the Punisher. Last week's episode had it all
laps Nash cameo JP requested was awesome. Yeah, what are the odds?
It's fucking funny we're hitting one all these months later. That's hilarious. Duncan
talk. Yeah, I talked to him because I was like, I asked
him because I askedhim about the hair. The hair on my cameo. That's
what it was. I asked him about his hair getting Like why they had
to do it on TV as opposed to like that that's right, not on
set, Like why not just do it the fucking day? Before, like,
why do you have to make a fucking gimmick out of it? It's
a dandy episode available in our Patreon archives. Indeed, the episode Brendan's Has
also has Duncan Talk fig feds. I personally mixed in Batman the animated series
and Power Rangers figures with my hasbros. Clay faced like major heel and did
a great choke slam. Tommy the Green Ranger had great mobility and did a
money hurri Kanana who would have shut boss? Sure? Sure, hey,
you know that's you know, blending, blending the Toy universe. The Toy
Universe is into wrestling. I mean I did he Man all the time,
The he Man, the he Man figures back in the day. They they
were they could do a great superkick. Oh really, the way that their
bodies were they had got there. Their legs were connected by like a rubber
band, like a giant, you know, thick rubber thing, and so
they could bend in the right way and their their knees were slightly bent.
So they did a great, a great superkick. And most of them looked
like they had been to see George Zahian, right, Yeah, they did
look like like patients of the Good Doctor sections of old newspaper articles is another
mark in favor of the Punisher. Cinemat episode, Brandon says also Jim Barnett
my personal favorite lapsed character, offering to blow a guy under a desk city
council traffic discussions. Oh yes, Hogan, brother, what I was thrown
in there? I'm sure to throw somebody off, in particular down in Tampa
Bay. Well, we did, we did, I do remember if you
remember correctly he was he was supposedly because they were shooting. They shot in
Tampa. They they he supposedly shot scenes in that that club sequence of the
movie. Yes, yes, but we they if they if he did,
they cut it out because there's nothing. There's no Hogan in there at all.
Southern Lawyer of Massachusetts mashups. Yeah, this ship was also with greatest
hits on most of t That's where we did that. Yeah. If you're
looking forward TLFX, where we did holy shit, that's the Punishers where we
did the because yeah, because the director's from Massachusetts and he's from he's from
that area. The fucking do that kind of it feels good to remember these
things. Oh my god, he right to this show is almost the greatest
hits of TLF all right, I think it will definitely be a cast.
I revisit anyone listening to this not signed up for the EPTR, stopping a
bitch and go sign up. He writes, this UTC episode alone was worth
twenty dollars. I was fifteen when The Punisher was released in theaters. I
actually remember going to the mall with my friends to see the film. I
also purchased the soundtrack. Yeah, I know, fucking loser. TLF brought
me back to this simpler and happier time. I never listen. Listen.
Nobody who buys a soundtrack for a movie is a loser in my book.
Yeah, there's no room for boss on that front. I'm a fucking I'm
such a fucking film score nerd that there's no no, that's that's that's fucking
cool in my book. The Punisher definitely punished my ass, But I'm for
more VTC, he says. That's right. As we get closer to tlf
X ten years in the making, I wanted to share some additional thoughts.
I found the cast in twenty seventeen due to my late discovery, I am
not a Day one listener. But when utc rolled out, I knew I
could be a Day one EP, so I signed up the first day at
Month Live. Now I can proudly say I have joined the mote. The
mote. Fucking that's a fucking man right there. That's the story of our
lives right there. Get him on the hook and before you know, it's
something that they scoffed at in the beginning as something they can't do without.
I don't want to get misty. I'd like Richard Fleer. Then i'd have
to the mains twenty four. But just like a lot of other members in
the Solar System, this cast means a lot to me. Every time you
turn on the microphone's history is made. In my opinion, TLF, it's
like a phone called you missed between your two best friends. However, they
recorded the entire conversation and sent it to you afterwards, so you didn't miss
out. TLF has seen me through rough days of the office, fucking COVID
lockdowns, and late nights rocking my newborn son to sleep. Deep down,
I know one day I will be gone, or the cast will be gone.
This day will hurt, but thankfully we have the back catalog hashtag's Shelf
Life tag goat podcast for generations of lapsed fans to come. Hopefully my son
won't be included in this, but who am I kidding? I will force
him to watch wrestling as an excuse to take him to shows, purchased toys,
et cetera. What a sad state of affairs pause? Isn't that the
true? Any lapsed fan before the kids are too young to know any better
are going to have all these wrestling figures that they really didn't even ask for.
Yep, yep, No, it's true. I'd like empathetic. I
remember my dad buying a bunch of toys that he actually wanted from the play
I bought, you know, back in the day. I bought my daughter
like about twenty five of those women wrestlers trying to get it in before they
realized how fucking laming stupid it was. Fucking idiot dad. Although she she
does say she would go with me to Madison Square Garden again if I asked,
Well, yeah, of course, it's a fun, live thing to
do. Yeah, it's not that, it's just like really all the time
that it's entertaining. You gotta go talk about that shit more. You have
a whole round of shame in pain right when you're in school as a rest
fan. Oh absolutely, And then you have a whole other round of shame
and pain when your kid looks at you and you're like, they're like,
you watch this, Like I can't tell my friends you watch this? Like,
right, what kind of parent are you? Like at some point she's
going to say, she's gonna say, oh, what does you know?
Does your dad do anything? He records a podcast? Oh? Really,
what's it about any of those? Any of those recently boss where somebody asks
you what you what you've been doing lately and you say, I know,
not since the show. Actually, actually it's not true. I have Well,
although you know what did the question didn't ask? I actually did tell.
I did tell somebody today, but they didn't. They didn't ask,
like what it was about? All right, I know totally they I would
have loved to have gotten the nothing over the holidays from a relative you haven't
seen it in a while or anything like that. Well, they always ask
how the podcast is going. They always ask how it's going. It's like
it's going great, Like we have another fucking banner year? What do you
want from me? I say, it's going lousy? Is that like you
ask me these questions about the fucking pot? I mean, yeah, it's
going. It's going phenomenal right now, So eat ship exactly, hope,
I hope you weren't expecting another answer, by the way, right hopefully my
son. Okay, Yes, this wrestling ship, Brennan writes, is a
disease. We as lapsed fans, have no cure for it. But Jack
and JP you make it so much better. Ding ding ding. That is
that is perfectly stated. Also, I noticed someone online saying, asking,
have you what made you lapse from TLF h Oh big mistake. Uh listen,
we need to get we need to get this guy the crisis counseling line
right away. When people start talking that mess, you know that they're people
do and you know what people do. And then and then what happens they
come back. They had tone they do to they weren't that they were talking
ship. You know, it's fine, very tolerant of that. We understand.
We've been through several cycles cycles of it ourselves. Of course personally in
my life lapsed from WWUFC and now aw He writes, Wow, that was
fast ever well I Ever lapse from TLF. The listener patron for Life brothers
holler Brandon, Thank you, Brandon. It's wonderful to have you in our
corner and can verify by the way that that motherfucker bumped up to the moat
Tear damn right, Derga, Welcome to the TLF Patreon universe. We appreciate
your pledge and hope you're enjoying the content. Christopher Emily, Welcome to that
fucking executive producer, Tear. Thanks for the cake, James writes, dearest
inflictors of shitcutter oblivion, shit cutter oblivion. Wow. Just listening to the
Summer Mailbag episode part one and the listener who mentioned the death of modern wrestling
is when commentators started to talk about story, or at least something to that
effect. Are we still talking about finishing the story, aren't we? Boss?
We are? I mean we're talking about story onishing the storytelling, finishing
said storytelling sequences, sequences of moments of momentary excitement, of of of choreographed
mayhem. And as we look upon yet another new year, I do need
to make it a resolution every year to come out with my annual shortlist of
phrases, we must retire to retain the integrity of the species, and this
year's is in this moment. This is a very lazy shortcut. You hear
a lot on like NPR and a lot of formats where people are trying to
sound very sort of aerodite and very learned and very kind of like sensitive,
and it's it's a red herring for me in this moment. What exactly do
you mean do you mean today? Because that's one way to say it.
I mean, are you talking about like this very second right just past,
like we're how about we're not in a moment. How About we don't know
what moment we're in until a decade after it happens. Right, how about
we stop pretending that something that happened last week is momentous before we have any
fucking clue if we're going to remember it. We don't know what's in this
moment. What's happening now, more often than not, is irrelevant as to
how it impacts the future. How many moments did we go through during COVID
that like, oh my god, we look back at it even it was
like we were wearing a different skin. I don't even fucking remember moments,
got her. You have to you have to respect the memory's ability to sort
out what is and isn't significant. And you know, you have to wait
for that moment otherwise than that moment, for that time to pass, because
otherwise you seem like a moron talking about a moment every two weeks, like
you catch you, I don't know. We got to record every moment.
Every moment needs to be a moment. Yeah, it's it isn't even it
isn't even a reference to a particular short passage of time, like a moment.
Like you know, somebody came up to me today and said, Hi,
that I guess was a moment. But what they mean is this moment.
They mean like there's a theme that ties together everything that's happened in the
past six months. And it's like, can you keep that first draft of
history and the drafts folder please? You know what? I had a moment
today. I had a yeah, a moment in the bathroom took a leak.
In this moment, I'm shitting my brains out about that. I don't
know. In this moment, I'm evacuating my my bowels. I just have
bos. That's all. That's all it comes down to. No, No,
I mean, listen, you're you're you're on the right side of it
all. Thank you. Let me know when I'm not okay, I know
I can. I will, I will. And a listener who mentioned me
like like when my grandfather, my dad always said, he said, if
I ever act like my father, take me in the back and shoot me.
So I'll do the same thing. Look Out, I didn't say to
shoot me, but okay, well I'll shoot on you. Yeah, that's
right, or at least something to that effect. I would like to trump
that suggestion, James writes with sequence who I knew that was coming. I
said it before I even read it. It was bad enough when fuck heads
on Twitter would say it, and companion to a ten second clip of something
only mildly exciting. But the shark was well and truly jumped. When you
hear Michael Cole or Corey Graves exclaim, wow, what a sequence on the
call fucking hate fucking rast laying Yes, awkward landing. That's another one,
Like we're now acknowledging on the wrestling broadcast that there's a clean way to take
a fall because it's totally phony, right, ooh, bad landing. Where
was this figure skating? I thought this wasn't ballet. It is ballet.
Come on, it's a dance like oh that would actually hurt folks because he
fucked it up? What are we doing here? What are we doing?
Maybe Zach going answer late mail bag? All right? Uh, Zach morning
Chentz. Sorry for this late late email, but I'm just now getting to
the tnh mail bag and figured i'd shared my TNA house show experience for you.
It's pre Hogan, but I do think it's relevant to how To.
I think it's how sad empathetic TNA was at the time. The show was
in el Myra, not to be confused with el Vira, New York,
and I got a couple of my high school buddies to meet up there since
it was sort of in the middle of our for all our colleges. It
was a tiny hockey arena that was maybe half full at best, like one
hundred people, so being college kids, we were pretty rambunctious all night.
In particular, this show happened right after Christian joined up and Kurt Angle got
hit with a dui like the week prior, so when their main event match
started, I stood up in the AA did it quiet, and shouted,
de you way, Oh boy, those were the dead at the top of
my lungs. That's really fucking great. I will never forget the death stare
that Kurt Angle shot my way full ninety degree pivot to the soft cam side.
He probably wanted to handle me like Bob Holly did Daniel Peter. And
that's not even the best part. Later in the match, Christian has him
a kneeling an, a kneeling rest sleeper. When my buddy yells that's right,
get him in his weakness, his broken freaking neck, and then I
chime in, this is fucking you, and I would do no, get
him in his real weakness, give him a beer and his keys. Jesus
christ guys, ruthless, Come on, Perkangle deserves better than that. The
entire place, No, he doesn't. The entire place erupts in laughter,
and Christian corpses so much that he actually dropped the headlock. I'm sure he
had some hard words for Christian backstage, but at least Christian wasn't banging his
wife right well, Karl's best finisher would have been the key lock. I'll
tell you that I don't remember much else about that show, about the show
because and eight two thousand and eight TNA wasn't much better than DNA era,
but figured i'd share since the same. Then, the shame of being a
wrestling fan binds us together, and we deserve it. That's right. Shame
to tell you, Zach. But those those or the memories you have,
even if you remember every single thing that happened in the ring on the oh,
yeah, you know, you're gonna remember joking around with your friends and
trying to pop each other. That's like, it's the whole fucking thing We've
been doing over ten years here. It drives some people nuts, thankfully they're
gone ten years. But we've been doing it since fucking two thousand and one.
Right, this is just a continuation of the same fucking thing. We
would fucking do it at all these shows, sitting in it was baked in
alright, sitting up at a quarter filled dunkin Donut Center, up in the
fucking rafters, dressed like JR. Purposely screaming yes balcony tickets for a show
we knew would not sell out the lower bowl. We can screen forward better
seats, but we chose to see the balcony shows. We said, how
funny would it be if we sat up there by ourselves? Essentially because we
knew how like how much like you know, when you buy the tickets,
they just show you what's what's available. It's like everything was available. You
know. It was a fucking It was ridiculous. And what do I remember?
I remember saying things like, you know, he should team book a
TSHA team with Goldberg and call the team whoopee Goldberg. Yes, I remember
these things, you know, yes, and and uh, you know,
probably spouting our favorite big show. You know, he's he's got a family
to feed. Hell, he's got himself to feed. In this vain Zach
writes in My Wrestling, I want carnies, not social media personalities pretending to
be cool wrestlers. And he also urges you, boss to eat that WWF
cereal that we got for Christmas. All right, but those preservatives, he
says, it will be all good. And this is a member of the
bar here, So there we go. You could take that to the bank,
John calla Hill. We want to thank you for the Patreon pledge.
Welcome to the vip t or same to you, Tim Brick it's a pleasure
to have won your confidence and your business. Ellis rights. Regarding the passage
of time, we are now as far away from Lex Luger slamming Yokazuna and
the intrepid as Lex Luger slamming Yokozuna was from Bruno Si Martino's title win over
Buddy. Wow. That's horrifying. I mean that is because Nobodice's black and
white TV. Yes, you know, it's like you can't there was a
year where there wasn't where there wasn't color TV, and the next year when
there was. And even though that's one year, it had to have seen
like thirty year difference between the two, oh totally. And so when you
tell me that like ten years before something that happened in the sixties was the
fifties, I ah, just can't process it. Time moves more slowly,
and that's the way it should have been. I don't know who said it.
Someone said it just so plainly the other day on something I was watching,
and I son of a Bitch, and I made a point to remember
who said it. Now I already forgot. Someone just came right out and
said life was so much better before social media no, yeah, and they
just said it in a way that wasn't like they weren't trying to make a
case, they weren't trying to, like, you know, get engagement.
They were just in a talk format And I was like, God, damn
it isn't that. Isn't that so simple? Yes? I argue with that.
You can't. You can't argue with that. I mean, come on,
folks. Some things it's improved, but there's no way in the final
math, it's I mean, really, the thing that that it's really improved
for the most part is it just allows people to remember other people's birthdays.
Yeah, that's something, right, It makes people feel special. I'm not
against that, No, I'm not against it. But what's great is you
can keep in touch with relatives and friends you otherwise wouldn't keep in touch with
and watch them get radicalized every day. That's great. Well, the the
and the really the best part is the fact that you can you can keep
in touch with people without actually have keep in touch with it, right,
you can keep in touch with it the way you really want to, which
is by doing nothing at all. Doing nothing at all. It's like just
watching them and making comments in your mind. When you see the picture of
them. We're trying to be happy. It's a fucking beautiful situation we're in
here. Chris, thanks very much for the pledge. We appreciate it.
My friend Evan Schlansky, Yes, we appreciate that. Cake Ben Oddsley,
longtime supporter, recently up the pledge. We did notice that. We want
to make sure to send a shout out your way. Zach also right,
you know, we haven't got a lot of pap us Sorrow on the cast.
Had no offense to Mama Sorrow or JP. But after meeting him at
Survivor series, which Zach did when we did the Moat get together at at
the Garden, I think he might be the star of the show. Yeah.
Anybody who meets John Sorrow and you come home, except he doesn't.
He wants like nothing to do with it. Tell me about it. He's
wise. What does he think about wrestle Mamia? Oh well, he thinks
hilarious, Like he thinks it's hilarious, especially you know when my mom goes
off on these weird tangents about like her childhood and shit like he he you
know, when he's in the room for that, he's oftentimes. You know,
if you, if you listen, if you, if you're if you
are a motor you you've probably heard by this point the sound of like dishes
being cleaned in the background at times, you know, because because there's my
dad cleaning dishes while we're while my mom and I are watching wrestling phenomenal.
Yeah, and it's like if you if you ever saw half the ship that
my mom says gets the reaction of him like turning around and looking at her
like yeah, or or just like shaking his head like, oh, you
know, just disappointed the best. Yeah, he showed up, man,
he showed up. That's virus series get Together and like the pizza was on
order and it was glorious. He took their of business. Yeah, he
has lapsand shirt on too, didn't he. That's right, that's right,
he listen't he's he fully supports the show, and he'd probably come on at
some point, but I don't think he he he wouldn't have the same like,
he wouldn't have the same train of thought with like my mom, would
you know right right right? He wouldn't sit there and be as inquisitive no,
no, and he would mind and yeah, yeah, he wouldn't be
able to also, you know, freely and innocently, right, Uh,
suspend disbelief as my mom does. Right, it just comes naturally. No
man could. There's a reason that there's a reason we say wrestle Mamia,
not wressell parent, because it's right. It's the mom guarantee, the mom
reaction. In particular to the Cave of Nature wrestling, Nick writes a possible
link to get planes, trains, and automobiles to qualify for Under the Cinema
if the film was set in nineteen eighty seven. Neil and Dell arrive in
Chicago the night of Star K eighty seven, which was held a mile from
La Sale van Buren station at the UIC Pavilion. Okay, there's there's there's
that there there is that. There is that I'm willing to investigate it.
Have you ever read the planes? Trains? I have. I have tried
to find there's so ah there. I've tried. I forget where I stumbled
on this, but I stumbled on one thing that said, and this would
have been this would have done it, and this would have opened up a
whole other window. But I did stumble upon and I God, I can't
remember where I found it, but a some some claim that in the eighties
John Candy was a fan, that he was a fan of wrestling, and
that occasionally he would do not on television shows, but I think on house
shows he would occasionally be a guest ring announcer. Oh wow. But I
found nothing to back that up, So I don't know. We can dream.
I can't imagine John Candy being a fan. I can imagine John Candy
being a fan for sure. Tom Deary, thanks for the increased pledge.
We appreciate it, seemed to you. Martin Fryer, Brian Sower, Steve
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Dorian writes, I've lived in Saint Louis all my life, and it's so
surreal to know that my grandmother probably had chances to buy Rumble tickets from her
favorite department store, Famous Bar. Remember we found the newspaper ads for that
first house show, Royal rumbaugh Ough how you could buy tickets to see The
Rumble before it was a television special, having no idea that she could have
gotten that nda action from the McMahon on a historical night in Rostling history.
Okay, Dorian, It's an interesting place to take it, but the real
nice you can take it, honestly. Huh. Famous Barr takes me back
to that beautiful time. Macy's bought them in the late nineties, I believe,
because you know, we can't have shit. That's right, That is
right, it is. Come on, you know I have a lot of
respect for eighties department stores, I really do. Yes, yep, in
seventies apartment stores, I mean that was you know, you grow up thinking
that your department store is all across the country, and then you realize it
isn't right. Nope, you realize that it's really a regional thing at best.
Paul the Saints fan, an incredible supporter of the show. We want
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James writes, I am a real Canadian fight for the rights. Oh
okay, this is these are lyrics. Can I get it? Yes?
First I want to see what what do you put this comment on? Let's
see Royal Rommel nineteen eighty eight. I am a real Canadian fight for the
rights to back bacon. I am a real Canadian fight for what's right.
Be so polite when it comes crashing down like a hockey fight. Brother,
you gotta drink it down like a can of sprite, purple sprite. If
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of lapsed Harley In general Harley talk during World Class, Jack called him the
living embodiment of an anchor tattoo. He's always dragging. He's always dragging some
He's always dragging someone out in the woods and plotting all kinds of sadistic ship.
Yes, yes, he drags them like he's bored with it. Yep,
I'm gonna burn down a building. Well, I can do that,
Harley, is there need to be a reason. That's exactly what he's say
and you look at you likeet that. Don't ask me why I'm gonna do
it because the damn thing tells me to do it. Wait a minute,
the damn thing also known as the voices in your head. Perhaps my tattoo
tells me to do it. Casey, thanks for the increased pledge. We
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about the kid? How about Joseph Nubauer pumping up that pledge? We love
it, Paul writes Nit Pickery. While I think your overall point about Men's
Rumble winners almost never winning and the main event is sound, I think it
is worth noting days these days, Becky Lynch and Bianca bell Air did both
win the Rumble and the main event of WrestleMania in recent years. Boss.
Yes, no, it's true. No, listen, I'm with you.
But if you look at the Men's Rumble in the last you know, the
last god maybe like twenty thirty years whatever it is now, it's not been
that it's been. The majority is otherwise. I think the first time it
really really came to my attention was the uh it was I think the Alberto
del Rio win. Yeah, And it was just kind of like that was
the most artigious one by mine, because because you think they're gonna fucking okay,
it's like, you know, I didn't. I didn't buy the rumble
win at all. It wasn't something that I was excited about. But okay,
we're here, so go with it. And no, and then it
just seemed like and he lost to Edge who were tired the next night,
right, right, exactly? Can't you know, I understand if you don't
want to go with Alberto, but have the foresight to have him win the
rumble, because at that point, all you're doing is hurting the rumble,
right, which is like one of your key assets and should be something that
people can rely on to send a signal. That's part of why people are
so pissed about Cody. I swear to god, it's it's it's not so
much Cody as it is. They're so mad that they still believe that the
winner of the rumble matters, right, and when they realize that that can
just as easily that that's not any more sac or saying than anything else.
They tell themselves as a rule of thumb about wrestling that WW can do whatever
the fuck they want want and you will continue to page exactly. I agree.
I agree with that that that's really what it is. I don't think
people would have its problems as part of it. I think I think people
would be fine, would be more or less fine with it if fucking rock
was in the rumbland one. That's right, if they had their fucking head
on straight ahead of time in terms of like, if we know we're going
rock Roman, what is the point and making people you get it? Getting
excited about Cody. It's so stupid, right, but we'll see, uh
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it. Welcome to the You think you think people, you think anybody calls
them backstage Mark Hank. I think the chances there And I never say this
about Mark Henry slim to none. I would call him Mark Hank. I
feel bad for Chris because he commented under our coverage of Last Action Hero under
the Cinema, Yes, yes, back last Summer, which I didn't care
for at all. He wrote, I must admit it hurt to hear Jack
shit on a movie that I'm wah. Yeah, But if TLF has taught
me anything, it's that life is pain, that's right. Yeah, I
mean, I'm sorry, I can't it's you know, honestly, I feel
like the only reason why I enjoy it is because because I saw it as
a kid, and I saw it when it was in theaters and I and
I enjoyed it, but you know, and so it has a nostalgia flavor
for me. But it's not a great movie at all. Yeah. Yeah,
that's that's totally sensible. I mean, we talk all the time in
terms of full disclosure when we look at old shows on laps fan mad.
Yeah. Yeah, that that's a huge that that is of course, a
part that you cannot disassociate from how you feel about old matches, old wrestlers,
old shows. Of course, that's the case. You can you can
be diligent and studious about saying, Okay, what are the composite reasons for
why this was great? And let's not be so lazy as to say that
in every single case ninety eight percent of it is nostalgia, because if you
have a discerning eye, it's probably ten percent nostalgia. And that's not enough
of an advantage to say that that's the only reason I think this is better.
No, I think this is better for mostly reasons that have nothing to
do with what age I am. I found myself after the Lapsed Funk being
incredibly nostalgic for the pace, the tone, and the style of nineteen seventies
wrestling. I didn knew I wasn't alive in the seventies, So how do
you account for that? I mean, it's the same thing I felt with
the von Erics, like all that world class stuff. I was like,
right, it's because it was better. That's why we feel the way we
do about it. Yeah, now, because we lived it, but because
in an honest Frank assessment. You know, the bigger bias is being The
bigger bias isn't pstalgia. The bigger bias is anti nostalgia. Right, That's
the more corrosive force. That's the thing that makes people more dishonest, is
just constantly striving to insulate themselves from being accused of liking something simply because it
took place during their childhood. Yes, the right, the the the absolute
not people tie themselves up into avoid being accused of having those rose colored glasses
on is doubly absurd compared to people citing their childhood as a reason they love
something. You know, if you're if you're worth a shit, you can
explain why it was great, and you're yeah, maybe you're making the case
that the way entertainment was conceived, thought of, and produced in your time
was superior to the way it's thought of, conceived, and produced today.
And come on, when it comes to like the general diet of entertainment that's
out there, you're going to argue that. I mean, I understand that
prestige TV streaming ten episodes a season, it's made on the level of cinema,
And yes, television blows a blow a minute for a minute, is
better if we even consider it television, because they have so many fucking advantages
with swears and yeah, you know, hardly any ads if you subscribe to
a high enough to year and all that shit that it's really ridiculous to almost
say that, like a TV is better than it was. Then it's a
yeah, well, they had to actually make a product that that appealed to
people and sold ads back then, I was gonna say, right, like,
the difference was is that is that you know, you're not you know,
you're not asking for subscriptions. You know, you're not asking for people
to fucking pay to watch your shit like you actually had to. That wasn't
even the thing. Now, people wouldn't have done it back then. It
was like it had to have a beat on the people, you know.
And right, and we're not wants to complain because a show like this could
never have thrived in the time period we yearn for. It's too hyper niche,
you know, right, So thank god that there's a way to you
know, just to demonstrate value by broadcasting obsessively to a niche like this.
We love that fact. It does not change, however, the fact that
show for show production for production, dollar for dollars spent. Entertainment produce way
better stuff twenty years ago than it does today. There's still great stuff,
but I'm talking about the barriers to entry. Used to matter. There,
used to actually be people that decided this is worth making and this isn't It
wasn't all just a big fucking well, I'll just throw it up there.
Because content hours, Thank god, that era is coming to an end.
That was a nauseating time, wasn't it. Yes, streaming services competing with
each other because we have fourteen thousand hours and they only have ten thousand.
Like you're ever going to watch more than one hundred hours before you're in the
fucking grave, I know, Like as if you know, think of a
millions of different things you're not gonna watch before you die, right, It's
like this is a problem that there's that many hours. That's not a good
thing. I mean there is some component if if it's like a hyper narrow
casted thing to a devoted fan base that yeah, having every show ever is
awesome conceptually. Having every sl available is awesome conceptually. And I'm not saying
people don't go back and watch them. It's it's that is, that is
a value, that there's a there is money that that's worth. But that
is not a proposition to me, to the consumer. That's not like this
is what you're getting if you buy it. That's almost always like a fringe
benefit. I'll even say that about the network. You know, obviously it
is. I mean, considering how many people watch the archive stuff. I
mean, they can't people trip over themselves to to say that, you know,
no one watches the old stuff because they're to watch the old stuff because
right, they're very favorably with the current stuff, right or vice versas so.
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Stardust to wrestle Inia. This fucking hell. There's no way he gets through
the rest of his WWE career without having to put that on one more time,
even if it's just for like a they'll tell themselves it's just for like
a little nostalgia, a posography, a Halloween, a Halloween thing. Oh
god, yeah, yeah, like a Halloween episode. Well, that's the
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But let's not forget too that Cody brought a sledge hammer to the throne.
Oh all right, And and I'm sorry, but I don't think and
try to turn himself and Brandy in contriplation stuff. Hated them so much they
try to become them, and that I don't. I don't think Triple H
forgets, Absolutely not. There's no way he's Triple H if he forgets stuff
like that. He is the most like grudge harboring guy like you've ever heard
of. Yes, absolutely, his face, his bald head is glasses.
His like that the Tony uses in press conferences. Can you like think about
it? Think about him like hearing an annoying idea in like a conference room,
all right, and he's looking down at papers, and he looks up
eyes over the glasses, just with the complete oh, you feel like you
want to die in your seat, Yes, exactly, makes you feel like
you're two feet tall. But he doesn't say anything. He just says it
with his face. Yep. And then when you leave the room, he
talk shit, that's the power of the game. And when the light's on,
he tends his fingers on the table like he's I guess you could say
that's the way the game is played. You can hear the jangle of the
four thousand bracelets he wears on the tabletop. I mean, I hope folks
realize by now that most of it, in terms of business, most of
it is the sound that your cufflinks make when it hits the top of the
tabletop, the glass tabletop. Yes, And the way you move your hands
and sweep something away, or the bullshit where you like move your coffee cup
one hundred times while you're talking, or the way you like or the way
you're you know, when you stroke your beard the yea, the sound it
makes people who have glasses just so they can take them off when they make
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Boss. Out of the following lapsed characters, Hogan, Macho, Vince,
Dusty Jesse. Tell the Solar System which voice gives you the most elation when
you have them say the word fuck? Ah, Hogan, Vince, dust
Jesse. I think it's Savage. I think Savage is the one that pops
me the most, but just because because because you know, I think it's
because there's there's so much emotion in his voice as it is, you know,
the coming out that you really don't need, you don't need fuck,
And so when it happens, it's just like it's like, well, wait,
like put whose ship like you don't need it exactly right, you don't
need it, and so when it happens in right exactly I love that.
Like the first time you said big fucking beef, doing the same, Jim,
it's a T shirt. That's how good that. Gotta have spice,
gotta have this big fucking beef, this idea that just stopped the commercial shoot
Cat, you know, because he can't not say fuck. I think he
said I got my taking my head or something. So so oh my god,
Cold Stone Steve Austin honed right in on something that I totally agree with.
That Under the Cinemat episode ninety nine on The Wrestler the two thousand and
eight Mickey Rourke picture one of the best, he writes new UTC masterpiece,
maybe the best ever, Jack tossing out ladies and gentlemen left and right as
is only approachriate absolutely Mickey Warick saying about the ending, I hope he dies.
It's the you know what's funny, you know what's interesting. I don't
think there's been one since that actually ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, I don't
think I don't. Yeah, I don't force it. No, And that's
what I love about it. I love that that that it it truly it
truly I want to keep you hunting for those money flights. Yep, yep,
so that maybe. I mean it's all and it's all a thing like
I sit there and I and I say to myself, I wonder I I
It's like I don't think about it until it happens. Yes, and then
when it happens, I'm like, oh shit, this this is going to
be it. This is going to be it. Yeah. I mean that's
that's a huge motivating factor for me. When I research episodes. It's like,
is this going to pop the boss? And I don't mean just make
you laugh. I mean it's going to be a moment like I'm presenting my
findings to you. It goes back to reading the observer, Yes exactly.
It goes back to dropping information on you that that you just didn't know about.
Yep. That's the joy of that. Yeah, And the fans and
the listeners get to share on that. But that's really why we're doing it.
Yeah, that's it. That's all it's always been, right exactly.
Okay, new UTC masterpiece, maybe the best ever. Jack tossing out ladies
and him and left and right, Mickey Work saying about the ending, I
hope he dies. It's the only thing for him. Yes, about the
about the Randy the Ram character, Jack saying he would say cunt to James
Lipton's face JP, JP lying that he loves E. C W and t
NA and his cameo requests you just fut it. No, I heard it.
I didn't. I didn't have time times and not to say it's never
happened. No, no, oh my god. Honestly, you know,
big man, I say that. I say that as much again to to
get it, to get a pop out of you and listeners. Honest to
god, that's always what it is like. I don't I say it like
partially to like kiss ass, but mostly it's like I want people to hear
me say this. If you didn't say that, they'd still probably give you
the same cameo, right right. Ernest Miller saying Rickie Mickey warr he's so
different than me. Asking fucking Kevin Nash what his favorite classic film was like
that was it was only to fucking have him go into that ship. Yeah,
and just fucking yeah. Do you think I really wanted to know what
Kevin Sullivan's snow shoveling routine was when we asked him at startcast, Oh so
fucking great. Do you think I really wanted to know what hul Cochin has
for breakfast? When we asked Brian fucking Knobs to answer the question, we
better come, we better come to Philly with some clean fifty dollars bills,
any questions to answer? That's exactly exactly Selim heard back from Warlord. Have
we gonna fucking shoot up to shoot that cash out? Fucking like a like
a goddamn card dispenser. Next the next time in my move, I thought
about this because if you if you follow us on Patreon, last time we
were on the ground to wrestle me and you you know, we do live
journaling for patrons only audio journalist as we you know, take in the environs
of the Carney Show coming to town. And so we were at the Wrestlicon
Hotel in La and Barbarian and Warlord were there with their manager Guy, and
I wanted to ask Warlord about putting his ear up to the courtroom door in
the Vince trial and other things I'm sure you can't wait to talking about MM
and they asked us forty questions before we can ask them one, and then
they have to write our number down. Look back in touch with this later
because they're so busy sitting there twiddling their fucking fucking sitting there fucking jerking off
under the table. That was before we rentedto Brian Knobbs, where I realized
here's the move. You say, hey, guys, can I pay you
two hundred dollars to do a five minute interview? And they'll say no,
and then you walk away and then they'll wait a minute. Yeah, that's
exactly. That's just the counter with a number. They'll go not forget it,
and then they'll that's it worked with Brian, it works with all of
them. They're just you know, they just want to look. Look.
All they want to do is make sure that they don't have to pay for
their lunch. Yeah, they've told themselves their stars, so they've told themselves
their time as much. Yeah, and their time is not there is no
longer money, but we're willing to humor them. Yes, if their time
was money, they would not be at this convention, right, Ernest Miller
saying Mickey Warwick looked like an old ass DDP that's funny, discussing bagels with
the Aronofskys and getting salmon from the locksmith Terry Gross saying wrestling is the theater
of cruelty and suffering. When talking about the sex scene in Rahway, Jack
said he was doing her the Rahway too many great moments to mention that it
was delightful listening to the live call of Mickey slinging egg salad as reference to
God's nothing better than him, fucking it's the ultimate scene, the ultimate scene,
slinging, slinging. It does, but it's fucking just Hey, don
what are you? What are you beautiful? What are you? What do
you have for me? And Nash nailed it in that cameo, like you
can't get away with iron Claw because the wrestler got made. So you can't
tell me, you know what I mean, that you have to make a
shit wrestling, no shit wrestling movie. That's unfair. You can't tell me
that I can that because I'm such a hardcore wrestling fan that I can't enjoy
a wrestling movie that I can't ever be satisfied. You can't tell me that
because the wrestler got made, and I would watch that movie four hundred thousand
fucking times. It's a really good movie, you know, like it's it's
a really really good movie. It deserved all the all the Academy Award nominations
it got. But you know, you look at the story of Von Erics
and you think that that deserves an Academy Award nomination before you even make the
fucking movie. I mean, in reality, it does. It does in
theory, but it's not an execution, not not this not this version.
But like the only reason you would think that that it isn't worthy is because
you know, the Von Eric's story is such bullshit. It's a bad movie.
It's a bad movie. More time, I was kind of I was
light on it. Right afterwards, I didn't I wasn't impressed, but I
was. The more time passes, I'm just like, yeah, that was
nothing. Man. No one can no one can look back and be like,
yeah, man, like I know, Adele said, zach Efron did
a good job, but that's about the extent of it, especially because like
the fucking I mean, look how quickly it died. I mean, there
was so much there was so much hype going on. They were trying so
hard, and it died a fucking miserable death. It did. It did
well second week. Actually, it did way better a second week than you
had any Yeah, I mean well, I mean I'm talking about like in
terms of recognition and totally and and and you know, you know, there's
nobody, you know, the moment it came out, people stopped talking about
it. Maybe did well box office wise, but nobody was talking about it,
and it was it was only a matter of time. It's amazing,
It's amazing, clearly, you know, when it comes down to the finderic
movie is coming gone, we're on the other side of it being made so
bizarre. It's it is bizarre. It is bizarre. And you know again
it's it's a it's a damn shame. Like I meant, and I was
selling. I was selfish, I really I just wanted I wanted Holt to
get nominated, just to oh, yeah, hear him say particular podcast of
anybody in the movie. He did, he did, absolutely he did.
But yeah, what I mean, I guess it did well. I'm looking
at the box office right now. We don't know, though, I'll never
know because you never really know in terms of because the budgets that they put
out there. We don't know if it's the actual budget or if it's or
if it's you know, just their production budget and not talking about their marketing
budget, which usually doubles the budget. Whatever it is. I see,
Yeah, I mean, I just remember hearing the box office returns. I
remember Meltzer looking at him and it was like it actually went up week two,
which movies never do. Yeah, so there was a positive buzz.
It was that holiday thing too. The first week two was like Christmas week,
and I know that's a good movie going week in theory, but the
week after Christmas, to me, is is also just as likely to be
shore of course. Yeah, I mean that whole that whole holiday week is
is uh, the week between Christmas and New Year's is always good box office.
People are going to go to the movies, terrific. You know,
it's a chance, it's a chance for people to go. I mean,
I used I used to love that. There were there were a couple of
friends that I had like that would be a thing, like it was a
time to kind of get caught up on movies that we may have missed.
I love it so much the end there, Oh, it makes me so
happy. I was so glad we could get that done before Christmas to get
a lot. Yeah, me too. That that was fun. That was
a lot of fun and cold Stone Steve Austin continues, I don't know if
she did as much training and on screen wrestling as Mickey work, but Florence
Pugh played page and fighting with my family. Would she be eligible? If
so, you could do a feature Barbenheimer run with her in Oppenheimer and Johnson
and Barbie seen. It was also the new animated team. That's true,
that's true. Now we got a lot of John Johnson is doing a lot
of stuff. One of these days. I do want to see Actually I
do, Oh god, I do. I liked uh wrestling, wrestling with
my family, even my family. Whatever the fun was. That was pretty
good. Actually, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's you know,
I wanna I'm waiting for a good time to do it. It's there,
of course and qualifies. Gee yeah, I mean it's one of the
easiest ones. Stephen Dame, thanks very much for the pledge. We appreciate
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how the fuck you do what you do in in Oh Man, You're you're
coming strong though, You're you're blowing my mind on cinemata every week. If
you folks, I'm telling you, boss, he's learned well, Grasshopper,
I can't. Yeah, I mean, it's just like I don't. I
just don't understand how the fuck you put it all together in that amount of
time because I'm always I'm there. You know, I certainly do have a
pattern of sorts. But you know there's sometimes I mean, I guess here's
what it is. I don't know how you do it and have you know
a day job life. Yeah, that's what it is. Really well,
you know what it is. It's like when I think about it, because
people ask me this often, it's like, it's the reason I do the
podcast is because I have enough already in my instincts, because I knew the
subject so well to begin with that I don't have to ramp. Like if
I taught somebody how to do what I do, they would never be able
to do it in a short period of time because their mind wouldn't be as
full of the shortcuts to get to the stuff. Yep. You know,
I was like absorbing all of the kind of stuff that we touch on already
before we even had a podcast, just so like, you know, who
said what when, where's the shoot interview, where's the book? Where's the
right? Which newspaper is most likely to have covered it? What? You
know? What documentaries WW come out with? When did the Observer cover this?
Like these little things, And it's like, can't discount the head start
that gives you when you can sit there without looking up a single thing and
say this is almost definitely where it is. You know, so many of
the wrestling books are chronological, you know, which helps so much. Yeah,
totally, if you talked about it, it's probably especially this sort of
like this absolute explosion of wrestling books in the past like twenty years or fifteen,
ten years really has been such a wonderful thing because they just fucking lay
out the chronology of their whole life and career, and it's so easy to
sort of jump in and be like, all right, if you said anything,
it's going to be here, and wrestlers repeat themselves over and over again.
So it's not like, oh man, he did thirty interviews, there's
thirty versions of the story. No, there's probably just two, right if
only if that? Yeah? So whatever? Truly okay, from Cux to
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know I don't wonder up again. But the said Larry on Bruno. You
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Larry David on Bruno. That was the first thing you know on mine.
Oh man, that's he's on the mind. Man. They did a wonderful
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actually I'm actually watching. Uh. I want to wait actually till they're all
out. Okay, So I've been watching. I've been watching everything, like
all old episodes, and so I'm like, seas he's the last one.
Yeah, he's the last one. Man, It's uh. I've been watching
season by season, and so by the time I get to the end of
season eleven, all of them will be out and I'll be able to just
plow through them. Yeah, and savor it and not you know, I
want to Seinfeld Humor finally disappearing. Yeah, yep, yep. So yes,
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I mean, what more do we happen too? You know how many pitches
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when they ask about the podcast, and you know, it goes from this
to this, and eventually it comes down to you know, well, you
know, I do want to give it a listen, and I'm always like,
well, you know you read it, be ready for it, like
it's it's it's it's long, like we you know long episodes, Well how
long long? Uh? We average about six hours in episode? What it's
like, yeah, you know, and it's weird, like you know,
we're we're we're a unique breed because you know, our listeners get angry if
it's less than four hours exactly. I always say, the podcast is not
that long because we want it to be. The podcast is that long because
we don't have a choice, right, because we stop when we're done.
That's what's beautiful about it. It is what it is. And I ain't
listen. I'm not gonna fucking you know, you don't want don't you edit
it? Like, because I don't want to, right? What do you
mean edit it? I don't want to fucking Are you kidding me? It's
funny. Is this like a production here? Done? This is a like
you want me to go back and edit? Listen, someone's going under someone's
gonna pay me, like on a contractual basis if we're gonna be Yeah,
Like I understand if someone wants to go back and edit a two hour podcast
down to like an hour ninety minutes, that boring. I decided that's boring.
Cut it but you want to, like fucking you want me to cut
down a six hour show to ninety minutes. The guts are gone, The
guts are gots are gone. And you know, I don't know how we
got ten years under our belt to prove this. Someone's super One person finds
boring is what someone else finds completely indispensable. Yes, how do you score
goals? You take as many shots as you can, right, And I'm
sorry that other podcasts don't have the wherewithal or the ability to keep up with
that, or don't necessarily think it's worthy. Good on them, you know,
you know what it comes down to. You know what it comes down
to. And and I get to say, just because I don't you got
it hard. I I listen, you know, because I listen to stuff
because when I'm looking, mainly it's for cinemat. So when I'm looking for
stuff I look, I often look to podcasts to see if so and so,
if they've talked about a movie. But I but I but I've learned.
I learned within the first like six months of doing cinemat that a podcast
talking about a movie isn't giving me shit because nine and nine hence out of
the time, it's just two people talking about how they feel about the movie.
Yeah, which is nobody's actually done, which is fine, right,
But like, but I want to know so limited, Yes, and I
want to know how it was built, how was put together? If we're
taking this much time, Like, I don't understand, Like you have to.
You owe it to yourself to say something definitive, don't you. I
mean that's to me, it's not even worth hitting record unless you can bring
work to the table. Yeah, maybe I'm just like weird about it.
I don't think I know, because I mean I think we think of it
as it's it's it's more than that. I think I think there's there's truth
that that. That's what I want to I want to uncover. I don't
want to just give my opinion. I want to say, look, this
is what happened, and this is fucking crazy, or this is amazing,
or look how brilliant this person is, or look how fucking crazy this person
is, Look how dumb this person was, Look how you know this is
why this person is is a legend like that that's yeah, it's the passion
for the material. It's not us being in love with our idea of ourselves.
Yeah, a lot of podcasts are that way. It's kind of like,
you know, I'm interesting. It's like, well, no, you
know, maybe what you have to say about something is interesting, but the
something has to have some right rigor to it. I mean, fortunately we
are interesting, so that works too. You got to talk this way,
folks. I don't know why people don't get this like this, and no
one's going to give you your flowers in life. Oh, you got to
give them to yourself. Self care. That's what we practice around Yeah,
self care right, and self tearing too. When it comes to drilling a
new anus, Ryan says YouTube butt fuckers had to pledge because I'm no bitch,
and the fact to listen to you guys for eight hours daily. I
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I get left alone and get to have one earpiece, and so that ear
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stories of work life, like the time my boss was yelling at me for
some shit I'd done wrong, and I was smiling because I could hear was
JP doing the Ringmaster theme. God to release at the mood that's great,
What a great story. I'm obsessed with those. By the way, I'm
obsessed with stories. If people who are listening to us when they should be
present, Oh man, it's a deep cut. I forgot all about that
one or the time a girl from work had to leave because of a serious
injury. But I had a smirk on my face because you two were explaining
a story about w CW referee Mickey j in a hotel room with a prostitute
with one leg on the bed, pulling his brick while crying about his ex
wife. Oh, I'll tell you, there's nothing gives me great enjoying the
idea of these fucking, fucking carnies in a motel with a prostitute like it
just gives me absolute pleasure. Mickey Jay didn't stand a chance that week,
not a chance. We were going to have our way until no one could
think of him in any other way besides how we say if you're it's like,
it's like what cousin Eddie says in Christmas Vacation. He's gont been a
little bit at Mississippi leg Hound in him. But between you and me,
it's just best to let him finish gods right, so many more stories maybe
for another day. Keep up the great work, gentlemen. You guys are
fucking awesome. Thanks Ryan. I mean, I couldn't be more thrilled to
hear that and can't wait to hear more dispatches from the front. Ben Wrights
just watched this movie for the first time. Listening along, I think about
the wrestler. Oh, I think Rock really portrays that sort of above it.
Let's just get the shit over with air about some veterans well, with
the way he walks over matches, talks over matches rather and comes down to
the ring, like how he just slides in without playing to the crowd.
That is true. He does get that little chip on the shoulder thing down
perfectly, Yes, Like he's a sad, pathetic, sad sack and he
knows that, and he's he's just as ready to wallow and self pity as
any broken down wrestler. That's why guy in fucking two thousand and eight is
playing fucking Nintendo right, you know, right exactly, But he still gets
down that little bit of you know, cock of the walk body language where
when he's among other wrestlers, he's still he's still able to carry this idea
that he's worth a lot more than you're paying him, and he knows it.
Yes, Tim l thanks very much for the increased pledge. We appreciate
it. Looks like you were looking for some cinemat content. Hope you enjoy
it. Neil writes on further to the wrestler, he says, something I'm
thinking about is Piper spinning the wrestler into an uplifting story about what people like
him give up for the fans. To every normal person the movie, he
is a tragedy. But if you are inside wrestling, you cannot confront the
waste. Wasted lives, wasted families, wasted money, wasted bodies. It
had to have been for something right. He also writes, what makes Randy
such a unique character is you think much less of him by the end of
the movie, ding ding ding ding ding. Yes, Yes, that is
Darren Ronofsky's genius in this film, in my opinion, is exactly that work
plays Him is very charming and gracious in the beginning, but as the movie
goes on and as you see wrestling be taken away from him, he seeks
a very one sided kind of adulation from his daughter a prospective girlfriend, people
at work, et cetera. You reach the conclusion at the end that this
is someone who isn't really interested in reciprocating love in any meaningful way. It's
about what the world can give him, and all the doe eyed speeches and
meaningful gestures are just a means to an end. Let's fucking go, Yes,
let's fucking go. That's so true. That's it. That's it in
a fucking nutshell, that's the progress. That's the pro wrestler. They memorize
the forms and the mannerisms of somebody that appears to have a deep humanity and
is worthy of your sympathy or empathy. But that's just one tool in their
toolbox. Pal yep, and until cold cash is slapped into their palm,
nothing's real. Rich Molton, thank you very much. We appreciate the pledge.
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Our very good friend Gordon out in Long Island has written to us in regards
to our rumble nine eighty eight slash Bucking Stampede eighty eight January eighty eight.
Wars Arab shows that we did and he's got some great perspective love. The
January eighty eight shows got me reminiscing about the good old days. I simply
remember the excitement around the Royal rumble was off the charts, and the Hog
and Andre contract sign was headline news among friends in my second great classroom.
Also, the timed battle royal concepts seemed really intriguing to us, as we
immediately began replicating it with our ljns. Here's the funny part. I lived
just twenty minutes away from the Nassau Coliseum and it was like my second home
for w shows. I saw at least a dozen cards there across eighty six
and eighty seven. Now, the NWA's bunk House Stampede was happening as stone's
throw away from my home, and guess what what, I had no idea.
The NWA was like a distant relative I'd heard of but never really knew.
I was aware of guys like Dusty Flair and the Road Warriors primarily for
magazines, but I'd occasionally see them on TV. It just wasn't appointment viewing.
And somehow they failed to hit me with any marketing of this event,
despite the fact that I was there. Target demographic I was a seven year
old kid obsessed with wrestling who lived the Stones Throwers away from the coliseum.
Everything about the NBA was second rate. I'd tape Clash of the Champion shows
and keep up with them peripherally, but I didn't really watch regularly until the
early to mid nineties. Something I found hilarious was when I later found out
about the show. I thought that the NWA was copying the WWE's bunk House
Battle Royal gimmick, well the other way around, but I had seen it
at the coliseum previous Excuse me leading someone who observed a live in person WWF
bunk House Battle Royal pre rumble leaping Lanny in his dumbass suit of armor and
all that shit. Little did I know that Vince was stealing an NWA gimmick
and basically making fun of that. But not stealing is the wrong word.
Lampooning would be more right, right right at any rate ausome shows, I
particularly enjoyed laps, Bob Coddle, Why did you say what? I particularly
enjoyed lapse? Bob Coddle promoting the WWE's NBC show off the WA paper few.
He's confused, I don't know what, they'll give him just a hard
time about that. Oh my god, I've forgot about that. Well,
Jim Tony WWF is on tonight, and well, Jim, I'll tell you
on free TV the WWE is putting on a royal rumble, way better competitors
than we have here on pay per view. You just paid for. He
just paid for. But I suggest you turn over to USA. Oh my
god, Bob, you know we're not going to fire you, but can
you not do that anymore? Scott Gallagher, thanks for the increased pledge.
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The money we'll go to good use. Jeff writes on The Wrestler Again,
Man under the cinemat you gotta find this thing if you didn't listen to it.
Jesus, I finally finished this today and want to say that this is
probably the best podcast ever made any genre. Oh Jesus Christ, I don't
remember this email at all. It's the perfect movie for the cast, and
JP did a wonderful job of research and presenting everything that makes this a classic
movie. I don't know if Mickey Orke is still doing okay or not,
but I hope he is, and the way you presented his story is so
well done. Bravo, gentlemen here worth every penny. Do you think it's
going to end well for Mickey Rourke? Ultimately, this is a renaissance that's
now like twenty years old. Almost. Yeah. I mean, I don't
know if he's see I don't know if it's bad. I mean, he
certainly has had some good shit, but in terms of I mean, I
don't know what his last movie was, for God's sake, but I think
it was the the Sin City remake. Maybe that's a that's a while ago
too. That is like the yeah, fact we don't know says a lot.
Yeah, Like I mean, he's done. I'm looking at him right
now and I mean, just he's back to doing a bunch of shit that
I've never heard of. Yeah, you know, like, yeah, I
don't know. I mean, is it going to go. I think he's
fine. I don't know if it's going to be like the tragic end that
we may have we might have seen earlier on. But in terms of like
is he going to get back, I mean, you know, I guess,
yeah, I guess since the city had deigned to kill for it is
ten years old, that's the last thing I remember him. But he's done
a bunch I mean he works again. He works every year. I don't
know how much money he's making. Uh. Oh, he was in the
Rowan Polanski movie for fox Sake the Palace last year, and they get better,
you know. I so, dude, there's similar. There's so many
movies out in these days. There are so many fucking movies out And I
think I've said this before. It's it's it's it's one of the things that
I always hope. I always think I know the movies that are gonna be
uh, that are gonna get that where I'm gonna get screeners for the SAG
Awards, Like I always think I know the movies that are that I'm gonna
get, and then I get none of them, and it's a bunch of
fucking movies that I've never even heard of and could care less about. Wow,
And it's so frustrating because that's that's kind of the world. I mean,
talk about it used to be better. I mean, I'll say movies
used to be better. Yeah, I'm not saying that that that that movies
that that there aren't great movies. Now there certainly are. But in terms
of like you you don't know about the good ones, or you don't hear
about movies or or or there are so many movies that are being made that
it's like it just oversaturates the output of it all, and it's like,
I can't I used what I used to love about. It's why I don't
really give a shit about awards anymore. I used to love awards. Oh
my god, I used to write these wonderful Yeah I remember, yes,
who who will win? Who should win? Great synopsies of all the films
that were up for consideration. I used to love being like because you I
would always have a movie to root for, because like, the movies that
were being nominated were were like everyone knew about them. And I'm not saying
that these movies that aren't good that that get that win and get nominated.
But what's frustrating is that more often than not, it's movies that I don't
fucking ever even hear about. And that's the shame too, in that these
great movies are being ignored. But I'm also like, you know, that's
what the Independent Spirit Awards are about, you know, fucking let them have
that, don't give them yeah something he said for that, you know,
Like, I don't think it necessarily makes sense that movies on an independent budget
should compete with big studio movies for awards. I've always been against that.
I've always I've always been against against network shows. Yeah, seriously, it's
true, Like they should have their own sense of Emmys, and for god's
sake, they got their fucking goddamn idiotic local Emmy Awards for every other fucking
exactly mom and pop. Like, you know, you should have your your
your your h whatever you call it, what premium cable Emmys and then your
fucking bar let's do it weight classes, you know, based on a budget.
Yeah, right, Best movie five hundred thousand or less best movie.
You know what I mean, Yep, let's do it. I'm not I'm
not afraid of it. Why are you afraid of it? I'm by all
that. I don't mean you part for it. Fucking fuck Christ then people
would then people would ca fave their budgets, right of course, of course,
want to watch play out? Oh my god. Speaking of a Bob
Coddle, Bez makes a point we always failed in that reference when Bob Caddle
comes up, which is important. It should be noted that Bob Caddle was
very close with one of the most racist politicians new US history, Jesse Helms.
Oh yes, Coddle was Helms's legs lave assistant and worked on his nineteen
seventy two Senate campaign. I don't think it's far fetched to suggest that old
Bob is likely a bigoted motherfucker. Oh I'm sure he is. You kidding
me? Behind that innocent uh oh you know visage that that that good old
papa face, you know. Can you imagine him like going in a rage
like order, if like the fire hoses to be used to get orders,
being comfortable with it, thinking that we have to crack down, like if
he if he had a daughter. You know, oh she had like he
style, Yeah, which she had like a fucking you know, a boyfriend
or a girlfriend of color. I mean god, we can imagine if you
had a girlfriend a girlfriend, let alone a girlfriend of color. Fuck.
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Ryan has this to say ahead of the TLFX. He writes in the subject
line, Sean teaches Vince how to be cool? Oh my God. As
Lapstack's approaches, I've felt compelled to sort of honor you, most importantly with
my Patreon dollar, but also by sharing with you my favorite moments from that
cast. My favorite journey ever is Montreal. I've listened to the entire journey
several times over and will listen to it several more times. I was able
to obtain backstage audio of Vince asking Sean Michaels to teach him how to be
cool. I transcribed it and is included at the end of his email.
You guys got me through the worst period of my life. Last year.
My mom passed away rather suddenly from a violent end stage cancer. Apologies man,
sympathies. That's that is uh, I can't even I can't. I
did not leave her hospital room for the last week of her life except to
get food, and your podcast was the only way I could even remotely relax,
relax and lessen my tears so I could portray strength from my mom and
my sister's. Yes. Yes, I'm forever indebted to both of you for
helping me during that time and the difficult year that has followed. I hope
this transcription makes you laugh like it did for me. They likely will.
I just had to to Oh god, okay, I think it was definitely
your calling here. Oh my god, we think got me other it is.
Oh my god, you're gonna be Sean. Uh yeah, sure,
let me please, you gotta be se I need to be Sean. I
can't do Sean as well as you can. John. I've been thinking,
you know, about this whole entertainment thing, and well, I've come to
the realization that I need a bit of help, a touch of finesse if
you will. You want to learn to dance, Vince, Well, not
just dance, Sean, I want to be cool. I've watched you over
the years, and you've got that charisma, that that swagger. I need
some of that Sean Michael's magic. You bet you've been in the business for
decades, Vincy, you practically built. It's got your wanting to dance and
be cool. Now, Jack, let's be clear. You know we're not
in the wrestling business anymore. It's all about entertainment. That and notwithstanding,
I feel the need to connect with the audience on a different level. Dancing,
being cool, it's all part of the show. You see, I
get it. Vince. So you want me to teach you how to dance
and be cool? Yes, exactly. You're the heartbreak kid, the showstopper.
You've got that magnetism. Teach me your secret, Shawn. All right,
Vince, let's start with some basic dance moves. Have you ever done
the moonwalk? Like this? Close? But ah, got some work to
do, my friend. Okay. Moreover, it's it's not just about the
moves. It's it's about the attitude, the confidence. You've got to own
the stage. I can do the show and when I'm out there, remember
it's not wrestling, it's pure entertainment. You got a Vince, We'll turn
you in the coolest entertainment mogul in no time. That's to luck Ryan.
We appreciate that. It's a fucking great laps GPT style. That was a
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thank you for your support on Patreon. Mike asks the question, I'll
give this one to you. I think it's to bret up your wheelhouse subject
line who should play? We've talked about this before, Vince McMahon. Oh,
especially in light of recent developments as lapsex approaches, I felt compelled to
sort of honor you, most importantly with my Patreon dollar, but also by
sharing with you my favorite moments from that cast. My favorite Wait a minute,
I read this one. Journey is mont No, wait a minute,
I read that one right. Wait a minute, no, no, yes,
hello chairman. Sorry, I was having a discussion with my friends about
who should play Vince McMahon a movie or mini series. I'd like a lapse
ruling to on some names that came up that I thought were good or interesting.
Michael Shannon, Uh, do we want to go through these now?
Michael Shannon, Josh Brolin, Brian Cranston, Joe Joel Edgerton, Tom Hardy,
Jon hamm Alec Baldwin. Some names were that were suggested that I just
don't see being very good. I'd like to get elapsed ruling when you guys
with you guys on these as well. Nicholas Cage, Robert Downey Junior,
Christian Bale, Bradley Cooper, Michael Keaton. Thanks for all that you do
and I'm looking forward to future episodes. Oh yeah, for sure, if
you ever what I'll never forget what won me over with it is his performance
in Hail Caesar, the uh the the Cohen Brothers movie, and at one
point he just slaps George Clooney and I'm like, oh shit, this is
Vince McMahan. This is it. I think Josh Brolin is the best choice
to play Vince McMahon, hands down. I think he would I think he
would fucking nail it. Michael Keaton, I feel like, and I love
Michael Keaton. I think Michael Keaton is so great. I just don't know
if he's got that there's something about him. Yeah, he's like a little
too quirky. I feel like to be to be vincmick Man, I mean,
I I I imagine, I mean, I'm sure I can't picture it
in my head, but I'm sure that Robert down and Junior can do it
because he's just so fucking brilliant and he can he can metamorphoise into anything.
Yeah, but my personal favorite would be Josh Brolin hands down, out of
all them. I don't like Brian Cranison, I don't I don't know,
I don't know, I don't I don't see it. Josh Brolin would be
fucking perfect. Yep. Yeah, there's the answer, folks. In we
we've we've gone through this before and that's that's that's the verdict right there from
the camp Shares, I think that's absolutely the best call. Let me look
at his face just to be sure. In what role as what do you
oh in uh uh Hail Caesar in the movie Hail Caesar. He just he's
just perfect in that and Yeah, yeah, that's him. That's absolut dude
with the mustache too. Now yeah, exactly right. Oh my perfect at
them pell fucking perfect. Oh they'll make it in our lifetimes. That movie
is gonna come out, and it's gonna be so probably after he dies dies,
which seems like it might be sooner than later. Well, you talk
on episodes about how we were kids, there was people saying w c W
was real and w w F was fake. Remember this, Yes, yes,
totally British stew Dog and Patreon lets us know can confirm the debate of
WCW being real and WWF is fake. Made it to the school playgrounds of
Liverpool, England. Yes, I think he writes it was because of the
Flair blade jobs. Of course that would makes sense, Daniel writes, in
my local toy shop as a kid, also from the UK, the ww
figures were a pound cheaper than the WWF ones. It was either two nine
and three ninety nine or three ninety nine and four ninety nine, So I
had to stock up in the globes as that was the best way to make
my pocket money go further. So that's probably why so many people had Dad
galubs. Oh he likes wrestling, I'll buy the cheaper of the two I
love, Yeah, exactly. Oh shit, I'm gonna buy these two ninety
nine fucking things. Do you remember galubs being cheaper than hasbros? Uh?
Maybe like buy like a dollar, yeah or something like that. It's funny.
I don't think my I don't think anybody ever bought me galubs. I
think I bought them myself. I bought them for my definitely bought for me
because I was like, what are these now? I never I never bought
I never, they were never bought for me. I definitely was like because
because so many of them at the time were in WWEE that I was like,
oh shit, this is like the roster that I can't fucking find.
Sure. You know amazing, man, those gallub figures. What a fucking
time to be a live, right, I fucking I mean speaking a price
choice. One time I tried to take the tag off a cheaper one and
put it on a more expensive one to see if at I'd get the cheaper
price. Uh. No one told me about barcodes, so oh they did,
Sam. That kind of sucked, Adam. One of my favorite WW
moments is right after Doom breaks up, speaking of globs. Right after Doom
breaks up, they interview some young black child in the crowd and ask him
his favorite wrestlers Doom, He says in a dejected tone. Wow, just
broken up. A microcosm and future glimpse of how wrestling and especially life will
always be disappointing in the end. This is why it's one of the best
moments in the history of bullshit buffoonery. It's a good thing to hone in
on right there, Yeah, William Wright's unsmoking. I was at the Brian
Pillman Memorial Shit in nineteen ninety nine. They held silent auctions for wrestler donated
items in Rick flare m Seed, where he would invite the two highest bidders
to the ring for a final auction. There were some pretty high end items,
like a ring worn Flair robe. I was a poor college student,
so I had a bit only on one thing. I thought I had a
chance at an autographed Al snow head. I was still surprised when I got
called into the ring. I was standing there in the ring with the other
bidd Al snow and Rick Flair, but back and forth got to one hundred
fifty dollars and the other guy jumped to two hundred dollars. Sanity hit me
and I realized that I didn't want a mannequin head that badly and bout out.
I returned to my seat with my friends, who screamed at me for
not going higher. I was coming down from the adrenaline rush from the auction,
and since it was nineteen ninety nine, I went to find a play
somewhere in the small arena to pound a cigarette. I should say that security
was non existent, and I somehow found my way to a loading dock with
a door open. As I'm staring out the bay door having my smoke,
I hear a door open behind me and Nancy Penoah walks over. WHOA,
and I think I'm going to get thrown out of the building, but she
comes up and asks me for a cigarette. I give her one and she
makes a little small talk. I only knew her from WCW at the time,
but I told her that I was a fan of her and Chris,
but not wanting to be a total douche, I mostly left her alone.
She finished her smoke and said wait here. She went back in the door.
She came back from and came back shortly with the murderer. She brought
a home. She said, My wife said, you're a fan. I
said I was, and that he was one of the best parts of WCW.
I'm about six feet tall and I had easily four to six inches on
him, but his fucking torso was over twice as wide as mine. And
of course he was being nice to me, but he was still terrifying.
That's right. Thanks for the dispatch, will Oh, that's what we're looking
for. Ah, those moments that only a lapsed fan can appreciate the gravity
of. Chris writes the Book of JR. Oh Boy Chairman. I will
probably need to build this theory up into a more fully developed piece. However,
I am out of time today. And the brief discussion about Jim Ross
I heard at the start of the Revolution twenty twenty Deep Dive brought a comparison
between JR. And the Book of Job from the Bible. Job quote was
blameless and upright. He feared God and shunned evil. God let Satan test
Job to see if Job would deny God by taking everything from him. The
devil did everything he could to Job get Job never cursed or denied God what
was happening to him now? JR, by his own admission, is not
blameless, but is mostly upright and has mostly shunned evil as much as one
canon wrestling here is was JR. Here, here is what, here is
what JR. Has been tested with the top of my head. Some of
these may be out of order, and apologies for the block of text here.
Jr. Has had two divorces, sold his house in Texts at a
huge loss after JCP was sold to Turner after about six months, lost his
job when Eric Bischoff took over WSW, was hired by Vince. Probably still
has some appliances in storage in Atlanta. Fired by Vince, brought back by
Vince. Made to move to Connecticut, fired by Vince, brought back by
Vince. Lost his health, had he give up his job with the Atlanta
Falcons that he really enjoyed, had a disastrous heel turn, watched his best
friend get beat up for real by Bart Gunn and brawl for all, lost
his mama, had an attack of Bell's palsy during a pay per view,
backstabbed by Johnny as out of his talent relations job. Traded a SmackDown on
live television without knowing it, made to train his replacement without knowing it,
replaced by the guy he was training, brought back again when the new guy
didn't work out. Humiliated every time the company went to Oklahoma, including an
ugly blade job to help sell Austin's heel turn after Main's seventeen, Constantly berated
by Vince and Kevin Dunn, made fun of, almost made fun of almost
everyone in Vince's inner circle, probably a bye right made fun of by almost
everyone in Vince's innercer. Had his boss make fun of his colon surgery in
a segment on live television, had his boss specifically tell Jr. And his
wife to make sure to watch that segment live. Ease to the sideline.
His wife and the love of his life is killed in an accident just before
he has scheduled to work Mania thirty three, signed to a deal but never
used by Vince, losing his health again and just moved to the B and
C shows with a e W. All of this, Jr. Has never
denied wrestling or even the people in wrestling who have done this to him.
A quick refresher from eight years of Catholic school and a quick Google search reminds
me of that Job learned the hard lesson that when everything is tripped away from
our lives, all we have is God. Wow, and God is enough.
No matter how bad life gets, God's love and his grace are enough.
Can that be translated into JR learned the hard lesson that when everything is
stripped away from our lives, all we have is wrestling, and rolling is
enough. No matter how bad life gets, Wrestling's love and its grace are
enough. In closing, JR so beloved because he is one of us.
Think of all the tragedy, criminal behavior, stupid segments, and times we
have been made the butt of the joke by the people running the quote sport
we love, yet we are still here. That's correct. We us are
all Job, we are all JR. Just something to think about thoughts.
There's absolutely right. I feel like I'm doing the job. Yes, heavy
stuff there, pal yep. From Our aw Revolution twenty twenty episode David writes
triumphant tragedy over Niagara Falls and an MSG lapsed journey. Greetings co chairs,
longtime listener with two accounts, I thought you might enjoy. Sorry for length,
My family and I recently took a trip to Niagara Falls. As is
my usual routine, I endeavored to read a book about the history of the
location prior to going to better appreciate the region. I thus read Niagara,
A History of the Falls by Peter Bertone. One of the later chapters tells
the well known tale of one Roger Woodward, who in nineteen sixty eighth age
of seven, unwittingly jurneyed over the Horseshoe Falls after an up river boating accident
with no protection other than a life jacket. The author describes his final thoughts
prior to being hauled over the mammoth Roaring Falls to what he thought was certain
death. He wondered what his parents would do with his pet dog, Fritz,
named for his idol Fritz von erik Wow, a local wrestler who lit
a feudorus down from the Woodwards trailer. Yeah, this is when Fritz lived
in Niagara Falls and the trailer and Jackie dyed. Amazingly, Roger's tragedy was
turned into triumph as he survived the terrifying ordeal, becoming the first and only
person to emrge alive after going over Niagara Falls with only a life jacket his
protection Thus, while his neighbor, the real life fritzvan Eric lived a life
filled with tragedy. I found it somewhat uplifting that Fritz van Erks the dog
experienced a triumph of sorts when he greeted younger Roger upon returning home after his
death defying encounter. Or recently, my family journey to NYC to see Billy
Joel play Madison Square as part of his famed residency. You've been aching to
get over there, Hambas get that text. I was, I was,
I had tickets. I had bought tickets for my wife for an anniversary.
And then what did you have? They were scheduled for January and the week
of the fucking concert, we both got COVID. You had more than tickets,
as it turned out. Yep Ah. How would you counsel people to
interpret things like that happening in their lives? Just don't no point here.
I was hoping for an uplifting message. No silver lining, none, There's
been none so far. People don't talk enough about that. I guess.
I guess the silver lining is that you know, I gave my parents a
fucking good night out that they never thought they would have had. Yeah,
they got to take the tickets, right, Yeah, fucking great. Thanks,
Oh you'll get you'll get there. Don't want sorry. Done in July
is done in July. I mean, people don't talk enough about the moments
in our lives where we learn nothing, yes, where nothing of value is
derived and it's only negative you know, yes, yes, we need to
know how to process those too, instead of like, oh, actually it
worked out for the It did not work out for the best. Sometimes sometimes
it just sucks. It worked out for the worst. How about this right?
And it left me thinking it's not worth it. Sometimes it's just a
fucking disaster. I can. Oh, man, let me tell you.
I feel bad for the boss, but what he ends up in those situations,
it is joy to talk to him. Of course, the ship that
comes out of his mouth when he's in that mood. Oh my god,
forget it. I mean again, I should have known better. I should
have I mean, look, here's the thing, here's the thing. This,
this is the reality of it. Okay. My wife and I have
been together since you know, we've been together since since two thousand and nine,
and I I don't even remember a time that I have tried to organize
us going out that has succeeded, Like every time that I plan something for
us, and the irony is that I get you know, it's like,
you know, why don't you ever think of stuff to do for us?
And it's like because it's not going to work, Like it's just it's not
going to work. And and so I'm like, see what I'm talking about?
This this is like so key to life, like how to deal with
this? And I'm just like, like, I seriously, I think of
I once tried to get us to go on a cruise and it fucking fell
through. I tried, I've tried a miss things just and it's like,
no, fuck it. Tell me like when you realize that Billy Joel wasn't
going to happen? Do you I'm trying to picture like your countenance, your
general is it kind of yep? See yep? Or is it like fuck?
Is it anger? Is it like see yep? Of course yep.
Absolutely no. I'll tell you. There was a so when when my so
my kid was the first one to get it, she got COVID yeah,
and I was like fuck, countdowns on, but she was like she wasn't
really it didn't really hit her hard. Oh yeah, thank God for that.
Absolutely. Then my wife got it and she get and it was like
it's like it was okay, Like I was like, okay, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm willing to sacrifice twenty thousand other people to go see
Billy Joel. Yeah, we're way past the point where there's any virtue and
yeah, yeah, I'm not interested in saving other people. I want to
go see Billy Joel. Why about the tickets? Right? And then she
like, you know, like the day after she got it, it was
it was rough, yeah, and she wasn't good, and I was like,
okay, I was like, all right, we can. I was
like, but I'm but I'm okay, hasn't happened. And then the next
day I got it and I felt like shit, and it wasn't there wasn't
even, there wasn't anger, there wasn't like a moment of it was just
like this, I just it's just not going to happen. It was just
it was just complete acceptance in it. And that's just I guessious. It's
hilarious. It's it's it's it's ridiculous. It's like you know, and and
I was like, yeah, it's just there was just complete acceptance. And
it was like, okay, we got to sell the tickets now or whatever,
and there was just complete acceptance. Yes, yes, so much.
And I just knew. I knew, like there was just no way we
were going to be because it was the concert was on a Thursday, and
this must have been Tuesday, and it was like, yeah, no,
this is not going to happen. And so maybe it was Wednesday. Probably
was Wednesday actually, and and we were going to sell the tickets and then
we you know, my I was able to talk my parents into doing because
they weren't. You know, my mom's a wreck physically, and so it
was it was not something that my dad was but I was like, I
was like, you don't understand, Like, this is actually the best place
for you to do it, because having been an employee of Madison Square Garden,
I can tell you that their motto is treating their guests better than their
employees. Sure, so you're gonna be fine, You're gonna be great.
They didn't call the number. They had a great time. They fucking loved
it. So happy to hear that they had a blast. Like, honestly,
in some ways, it was like I was great. I was so
happy that they were able to do that because they never do shit like that,
and and they had an absolutely amazing time. And it was like,
you know, I can't eat. I I the last time my parents went
to a fucking you know, like rock concert or like pop music concert,
God, like sixties, seventies at you. So it was good. It
was good. It was definitely good. I'm hoping we can. It's just
hard, you know, we don't fucking you know it is. What's the
riskiest thing you could do with life? Make pass? Oh? Absolutely,
Like the riskiest thing you can do in life is try I hate getting sick,
of course, But what do I hate the most about getting sick.
It's the fact that every hour I'm calibrating in my head what it's going to
cost me that I'm sick. And I don't mean work wise, I mean
everything plan wise, because I mean, we've now I don't know if people
have realized this, they probably have that we've now entered an era where every
single holiday there's going to be two or three family members who simply cannot participate
because of the ature of COVID. Yes, it used to be that if
they were sick around the holidays, they'd still show up, you know and
just kind of stay away from people and feel like shit. And people didn't.
But now, like it's not that people are deathly afraid of COVID,
but that the the sort of you know, the I don't know how to
put it. The cultural expectation is you you don't go, you cancel,
right, and you can feel less sick than you would have felt, you
know, with with the old cold or something. And still it's like it's
a different palculus. God, God, God forbid the host of the fucking
holiday act. Gets it ever gonna be this fucking tap dance thing every year.
I hope we realize we've entered this reality that you're talking about here.
Yeah, that's it. I mean, that's just it. I mean,
there's that is that is the COVID age, you know, that is the
COVID age. We you know, who knows if we actually had an opportunity
to fucking if we if we if we actually if people actually had the had
the fucking brain to work the herd mentality, if we'd still be here or
not in this is the same situation, we might well we might as well,
we might have been We might be here anyway we might not have been
who the fuck knows, but like we're here, and it's a it is
a a A devastating truth, devastating we have, thank you, devastating truth.
There will be it's scary. It's not scary, no, no,
but but it'll still pissed off. Yes, exactly. It ruins things for
me, yes, exactly. Expectations Expectations are now. I mean, because
here's you know, here's the thing too, Like we think people are over
it, and then all of a sudden, somebody in your circle gets it,
and people's true color comes out, and they don't want them anywhere around.
No, they don't want them in the same country. Nope. I
have I have my my wife's partner, the first get together we had.
I mean, she is so she is so fucking petrified of getting COVID.
No she did, she has now see I thought that would be the the
anidote for most, but I guess not like no, no, she's still
petrified of it. And and but she's she's the kind that wears the fucking
you know, the the the has mat yeah, yeah, with the strap
in the back of the head, yeah, you know what with the and
with the mat like the full plastic face mask right right right, well like
uh uh dx with sergeant slaughter. You know, are you serious, Like
the windshield wipers, yes, well not the windshield wipers, but like that
full o, that full plastic face mask. Years oh yeah, yes,
in the wild. She fucking brought that up. I'll never forget the first
holiday we had and she's like walking around with this thing on. I'm like,
I'm like, look, Jesus Christ, like live a little, like
live a little for the lover of Christ. I mean, people were as
the people wearing beaeper suits. I know, yep, yep, yep.
But like you think you look back at your high school yearbooking, cringe.
Wait till you look back at how people were dressed in twenty twenty in terms
of gearch gear. It's almost like it's almost like it wasn't real. It's
like with somebody else's life that I'm thinking about so bizarre. It's bizarre thing
it really was. I mean, when you think about all that shit,
just the mentality that you were in every day was so so unusual that it
did not feel like your life. I mean, you had such a it
was so it was so bizarre with with the Yeah, just like being shut
in and they were like a small a bit of restaurant, a small list
of restaurants, a very limited list of restaurants we'd go to. And every
time I go back to one of those, I like get in this weird
headspace of like it's almost like a deja vus. It's almost like a but
deja vous, the kind where you don't know why you're remembering, like why
does this? Why am I feeling like I'm actually revised in a routine I
had because I am. But it's a routine that was not It wasn't choice.
It was like, right, it was due to lack of choice that
this was my routine because like there was yeah, there were there were a
couple of places that you know, we would Yeah, it was so weird.
It's such a fucking bizarre time. More recently, he writes, my
family journey to NYC to see Billy Joel play Madison Square. That's how we
got to that. Yeah, right, I just said, go on my
own laps journey by touring MSG beforehand. You got it so I could appreciate
the most famous arena in the world in more relaxed and uncrowded way and reflect
upon the many great wrestling moments that occurred there. Although I believe you no
longer give tours JP, and envisioned you giving this one during the hour long
tour, I was hoping that guy would acknowledge some of the great moments in
wrestling that occurred within the arena alongside I want to know who. I want
to know who the tour guide was, and I probably know them also a
lot of people who do tours there alongside the other concerts, boxing events and
other pivotal moments, but I was not totally surprised when he did not.
As we walked around the level concession area, I was enamored by the Claga
photos adorning the upper wall of the arena, recounting the great moments that occurred
there. There are hundreds of such photos and I naturally sought out any wrestling
related ones with anticipation. The tour guys seemed a bit rushed and I couldn't
understand half of what he said as he spoke so fast while hurting the tour
group along. I was definitely that guy who lagged behind trying to look at
eating every photos, who has not miss any I'm sure you can relate JP.
There. There are a lot there there there I think there are three.
There are three wrestling related photos on the on that that that thing there
the uh whatever the fuck it's called. They there's obviously WrestleMania one, SummerSlam
eighty eight interesting is pictured, and then also there's a picture of Jim Londos.
Oh. Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah, you know,
coming up on Punchline Philly April seventh. That was kind of the first one,
the first WrestleMania Labs to get together. I mean, we did do
at Parking Lot Show Wrestling thirty two in Dallas, but that was impromptu.
That was kind of a last minute, was arranged occasion for our fans with
ticketing the tour that was that was fun, Like, it was so cool
to be able to offer that to people. Yeah, and and and to
do like to be able to do a wrestling centric one, which was great
because it was like this game of the opportunity to go to all the real
the places that I like to go to. But everyone else, who I
fucking you know, everyone every other tour, all the tours that I had,
they were like, I don't give a shit. About this phenomenal and
to work the co workers into doing the end suddenly that was fun. Fucking
that guy. Oh god, he got fired. Oh did he? People
wonder about him all the time. Yeah, he got fired. I heard
my friend Mark, who was a tour guy there. He still he's still
a tour guy there, although he's he's he's playing on windening it up.
But you know, the the the pandemic really changed a lot of MSG internally.
And I know he got he got let go, and he was like
he was pissed. He was like talking about how he actually said he said,
he said something like how I don't know if it was this dramatic,
but like I am MSG or something like that, it's tremendous. Like he
had a lot of pride, like in his mind, in his mind he
actually said like he's I heard him say this that he was like, how
much, how much bigger can you get than than working Madison Square Garden.
And I'm like, he bought all that he bought. Dude, you're you're
it's different. You're not you're not working Madison Square Garden. You're working at
Madison Square Garden. It's different. Guy who's making pretzels over there. So
yeah, it's like the guy making fucking fried chicken sandwiches over there. Oh
sounds good. Yeah, kim chi on top, Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
I think it's called fuku, but I always called fuck you chicken.
In New York, that's what they call it. Yes, And how amazing
was it that while we were giving the tour to last fans, yes,
they were setting up the Ring of Honor show. Yes, yes, people
would look at the ring and see them. Yes, so cool. Yep,
it was a lot of fun. It was great that we could do
that. And yeah, it was a lot of fun. I was definitely
that guy who lagged behind trying to look at each and every photo, so
it's not miss any. I was pleased to locate three wrestling related ones just
like you said. Hogan vers Iron Cheek from nineteen eighty four. Mm hm,
oh okay, I forgot. I forgot about that one. Hogan tea
Piper Wonderful from Tanya one and Hogan Savage DBAs Anddre SummerSlam eight eight to mis
Londo's So there are four. So there's four. Then there will pleased with
these somewhat interwhelming discoveries. I noticed there were approximately a dozen large and closed
displays with original memorabilia from most notable of notable MSG events through the years.
Adorning the opposing wall, I could tell this was where the real money was.
Our tour took us about two thirds of the way around the arena,
highlighting these, thus missing a few of the showcases. The ones we saw
featured the likes of Muhammad Ali, the Pope, the New York Knicks,
the New York Rangers, et cetera. I was naturally disappointed, but again
not surprised that none of them featured wrestling. In any case. They do,
they do, they do. There's one if you go, I know
exactly the way that they went, So there are there were different There are
different routes you can take for the tour, right and depending on how busy
of a day it is. And if you go a B route you go
so normally you always hit when you get up to the main main concourse,
you always hit Muhammad Ali, Joe Frasier first. That's always that's always a
thing, right. If you're doing an A route, you go down one
side and you hit the and you hit Gretzki. You go the other way
and you hit WrestleMania one and they got Hogan. They got Hogan, Hogan
shirt, pipers, boots and whatever. Yeah, absolutely phenomenal, great insight.
In any case, our tour continued to some of the locker rooms and
arena floor, where I pictured such events as Hogan pinning iron cheek to inaugurate
the era, Hulkamania, Liz removing her skirt to help the Megapowers to victory
at the original Summer Slam in the ladder, Yes politically teetering above a prone
Razor Ramon and Shawn Michaels of WrestleMania ten. As a tour ended, I
left someone unsatisfied regarding the lack of acknowledgment of the Royle wrestlings played in the
Arida's history. However, I reminded myself that I would be back in a
few hours for the concert and could thus conclude my own tour privately. When
I returned that night, I arrived early so I could view the remaining showcases.
There were three or four I hadn't yet seen. I excitedly found them,
but one by whole was disappointed. Oh, with only one left.
The outlook was grim. But as I walked up to it, I noticed
a gload of the red and yellow there we go. As I approached it
with my son, I realized all my efforts it paid off. That featured
hul Cogan memorabilia, tights, shirt belt, as well as WrestleMania one artifacts,
Piper's boots, commotial poster, et cetera. Yes, I had that
warm feeling I used to get thirty years ago. And after weeks of searching,
I finally located that long lost Colisseum home video at some remote walk Pastore,
New Hasbro figure to Sketchy Toys r Us. I've included a photo below.
It was nice to see the great history of ww wrestling at the Garden
acknowledged appropriately up in the I'm surprised too that what are you gonna say?
I was just going to continue with the email go ahead. Oh, I
was on one thing too, I'm I'm I don't know if he if he
if he mentioned this, but on the tour, you're supposed to go down
a hallway up in the up in the suites, and of course, granted
you never know, sometimes they skip the luxury suites and they go to the
the upper tier suites, depending on you know, because sometimes you can't.
They don't want people on, yeah, depending on what's going on. But
there's also a picture of Hogan Tea and Liberaci in in the main suite area,
and I used to stop people there a lot, and until my tour
was starting to run along, and then I cut it out. But I
used to always try to actually build up the pro wrestling element of Madison Square
Garden and talk about absolutely that that would be the time where I would bring
in I would talk about WrestleMania, but then I would also talk about brunos
Ha Martino and I talk about his the record, the record, the record,
yeah ye, the records sellout. And then also the first the first
time that that wrestling was held at at Madison Square Garden, which was years
prior, the centuries prior. Those people got a lot more bang for their
buck. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean I also gave I mean,
listen, I don't I don't mind saying I I gave a fucking kick
ass tour exactly what I got more than more than a handful of compliments from
from uh other employees who would be walking around the concourse in the arena and
catch me doing my thing. Excellent brother, I was I love joy impression.
Yeah, yes, that's what I thought. Yes, And it made
people very uncomfortable because it's like, it's like, what the fun was a
lot of times, yeah, because keep in mind, it's a lot of
people are are very a lot of a lot of uh tourists from other countries
don't do who yes, who don't? Yes exactly, like right, sloud
and floush and all that. Yeah, you know, flash Still it's just
sisky and you're scaring much very nervous. I'm screaming at them, you know,
fucking terrorizing these people, and they're like, oh god, so many,
so many, so many times you think you know, you're trying to
because you work obviously, you work your punchlines a lot in those things.
Oh yeah. And it's like, you know, if you get a group
that just speaks littleton zero English, oh my god, it's so fucking funny
to have jokes just completely bomb, completely bomb, and I'd go into my
fucking crazy I would get so intense during the uh the Muhammad Ali shit,
like just go fucking crazy, like talking about how you know, this is
America, so obviously you have to obviously you have to make a sequel to
make more Mondy, they have to have Fraser Ali two. All right,
this is you know, and then and then and then look, if you
got two, you gotta have three. You gotta have a rubber match.
I actually say would say rubber match in my tour, And and people was
fucking sitting there like what is wrong with this animal? David concludes one final
humorous note. At the entrance to the garden, there is a Walk of
Fame, similar to the Hollywood version, but featuring those athletes and performers that
have contributed significantly in the history of success. Yes, I searched for any
wrestling related individual to be immortalized along the lights of Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan,
and the Rolling Stones and found the one and only Yes AND's McMahon.
So honor, Yes, Yes, indeed. Do you think that's still there?
Pal? I imagine that it might be being removed as we speak.
However, I chuckled as I read the central bronze plaque describing the qualifications for
induction, which dates that each person is honored with a plaque that designates the
performance category broadcasting, boxing, baseball, basketball, hockey, track and field,
tennis, skating, music circus in which their contributions have been made,
with wrestling not specifically listed, I naturally assumed he was included out of the
category of circus Fergus. Yes, indeed, thanks again for reading and help
you enjoy the photos we did and you remember too, I posted this back
in the day, so when I first started working there. So if you
walked in the UH, there's an employee section where you have to kind of
check in. Yeah, when you get to the When you get there,
and I would go, so you walk along, they had kind of these
murals on the the UH, the cinder block walls, you know, like
they painted them and stuff, And there was a Hulk Hogan forever there.
Hulk Hogan was there forever. And then one day I was walking in to
check in and Hulk Hogan wasn't there anymore. It was John Cena. That's
fucking amazing. I think I tweeted that photo amazing. That's right. Actually
I'm sitting here thinking about it and I thought that was our bit, but
that actually happened. No, that that actually happened where they replaced Hull Cogan
with John Cena. Incredible, such a and it's like it's the same exact
pose that that whole Cogan, the whole Cogan painting was in, but it
was just now John Cena, unreal, oh Man. So many wonderful things
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gorgeous, long suffering wife was considering a logo design. She has started working
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common people are at risk of falling into economic crises hard times, baby,
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shoot. Solar System members, Brother Joe and some others had to point this
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That's right, we are that guilty pleasure. Robert writes Coach Heirs, long
time listener, first time emailer, just discovered that hul Cogan is selling vapes.
Brother, I would love to hear in the show how you think he
would sell these? No need to roll up tobacco anymore, dude, who
you've been smoking with? Keep up the good work. But A wall say
vape? You mean? What do you mean selling? Dude? Who's selling?
Dude? I'm on, brother, I want selling vape? Dude?
Are you about selling it for Vader? Brother? I'm not selling for Vader?
Dude? Is that what you do? I don't understand WHOA. Let's
come back, Yeah, all right, let's kind of let's get this thing
back on track, dude, And I want to understand exactly what it is
that you're trying to say when you say vape? Mhm, are you what
do you? WHOA? You have to remember the key to Hogan is that
his brain's working faster than he can say words. He's he's making he's making
logical leaps. You know. Yes, he's got like you know, you
know one one one moment right here, like one thought, has a got
about fifteen possible you know, next moves? And I just I just want
to know exactly what is So I'm willing to be honest with you, brother,
I'm willing to tell you exactly what is you want to know. I
just don't know what is that you want to know. So, so when
you talk about selling vapes, what do you mean by what? What is
a vape? Dude? Is a vapor? What do you mean by vape?
Brother? What is vape? Vapor? Big van vapor, befo water
vapor, hydro fuel cells. I'm not digging big van vapor? Brother.
Brother. You know, hydrogen fuel cells aren't zero emission, right, Dude?
If they suck in polluted air and they're going to admit it, probably
this is not so. I mean, I'm talking to you. You know,
we're talking about and we're talking about about climate change. Now, dude,
do you got to increase those axles? Dude? How does that not
emit? Are you like? Do you check? I don't know about where
you live, brother, but we have to call it check exactly where where
we're at? Where our emissions? You know, admissions to emissions. And
you know I'm as equally concerned of about emissions as I am admissions to the
arena. Brother. Right, you talk about global warming, dude, I
mean I'm talking about global audiences. I think we canna leave it there because
it reached the point where they're like, let's go down in the Hogan climate
change route. And what brought that to an abrupt end the fact that I
said global and then he says global audiences, and then it's like, okay,
well that's it. That's the end logical conclusion that this probably belonged the
laps Trunk portion. But Neil writes, Dorry Senior's wife was named Dorothy.
Is that short for Doriance? No, would be Dorothans. Actually is what
it would be? Dorothan's Ronaldi. Many thought Terry's y Vicky was short for
Victoria, but it's actually Vickians, Vickens, Vickens. Oh yeah, you
know, I shot there with Vickens, and we going way back and we're
there with Doncan and Dorothan's and and the sitting there and something with the Caroardly
Lions and then the tin Woodman's and just doing the whole damn thing. Howardly
Lion is that whole Cogan? What do you why do you even say that?
Brother? What are beyond the mad episode of under the Cinemat, of
course, brought to you as part of the Lapsed Funk some great comments,
including Adam, who writes much better than Barry's follow up film, which chronicled
pm News, Abdullah the Butcher, one Man, Gang Yoka's Innovador, and
a few other rotund wrestlers as they travel cross country discovering the best food and
each other. Beyond the fact, I would absolutely want to be part of
a documentary that just follows heavy wrestlers in their diet on the road, you
know, Like I would just want to do a dog just about the meals,
you know, I would. I just want to see them fucking yeah,
like, what what is their solution to hunger? Right? Because they
don't have they have no options, and they have no time, so they
absolutely have to make it count when they sit down, right, Yeah,
you have to think about how much more calories a fucking rakishi or a yah.
Yeah, and we're talking about I mean while flying around, are you
kidding? Six six thousand calories? Probably these guys are meeting right needing right.
I mean they let him, they let him out, they let him
into the restaurant out back, they let him into the fucking freezer locker,
you know, they just like feed him in there. Yeah, right,
I mean you're better off doing that anyway, Andrew right on the cinemat love
this movie. My uncle took me and my cousin to see this the day
it came out. Oddly, Michael passed away earlier today. So all right,
p uncle Sonny, thanks for taking me to this and all those baseball
and hockey games. Yes, rest in peace, Uncle Sonny. Thank you.
Jim writes, Oh God, about an hour and I'm physically uncomfortable at
the thought of Barry's birthday. Oh can you imagine this stuff of nightmares?
As a lapsed fan. I still can't deal with it, and it's been
weeks months since we talked about it. Months. I can't sit here and
think about I mean, I think about honestly, you know, you know,
the the only equivalent that I have is is at my bachelor party when
my dad brought out the wrestling toys. Oh, Virgil wasn't even as bad.
Virgil wasn't even that wasn't Virgil was horrifying. But like, my dad
bring out the the fucking wrestling toys and my makeshift cage, like that was
a fucking like, oh shit, my dad, there are real people here,
Oh, you know people, how fucking mortifying. Here's his toys.
Here's yes, here's his wrestling toys. It's wrong with you, Oh my
god, with us? I know that's the problem. Brian reminds us that
if Patreon isn't your thing, you can always leave a tip in the digital
tip Jar. Just open up your PayPal and type in the lapsed fan at
gmail dot com and you can send us a one off payment that way.
Brian is such a great trooper and such a wonderful listener over the years,
and he always yes, he is so considerate. You know, he sends
us a little cake to get through some premium live events or is it?
PL's it here for having to sit through that shit card and the ripoff finish
of Rocky two in the main event. So we love the support, and
we love support from Narjar and Calvin Trevor and Tim Murphy and Matthew Munns and
Jacob Steele and Adam Schwartz and Phil Becker and Cody Hinkel and Stephen Lowry and
Chris and Dean Wolfe and Alan Garcia and Andy Martin and Christopher Zella and Trevor
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the way, Chris Maldonno, And we love Scott Suddy and his support.
And we love Brandon Tillotson and Sackster and Pat Sullivan and Riki Sarnaga sagar Naga
and Tony Hannah and Tony Strong Style will take it. Thank you very much,
BLD. Thanks for the cake. Mark Simpson, Nick E Jack Gillespie,
I go on, I will, I can't go on, I'll go
on. Michael shop pinballa Narjar again upping the pledge. Hilton, Jonathan Clark,
murphyer, I think is the way to pronounce that Ben Brown, Folks,
the proof is in yes. Dean writes, It's funny to hear about
the wrestling coach who became a pro wrestling promoter. I did youth wrestling when
I was in elementary school, and I remember that at the beginning of the
first practice, I attended the coach that this isn't like the wrestling you see
on TV. Right. A few months later, my phys ed teacher started
a unit on Greco Roman wrestling and yelled, if I see you doing any
that WWF, I'm going to WWF you right out of this room. Wow.
As wrestling coaches really had to make it a point that they don't tolerate
that fake shit. Yeah, well, that's the only reason anybody showed up,
so they had to immediately dispel people of that notion so they didn't feel
like they were sold a bag of goods. I'd imagine a bill of goods.
I should say, yep. This is a nice moment, pointed out
in the spirit of TLFX by Adam on Patreon episode two thirty three, which
is WWSWS Rustled Dream Part two an hour ten minutes into an hour thirteen minutes,
Hogan accuses Jack of trying to talk to Yoshiaki Yatsu. Jack denies this.
Hogan claims that the denial is proof Jack had indeed spoken to the future
Pride Fighter. Yes, Jack warily retorts that he only wants a Japanese gatorade.
Brother, nonplused, the future star of a celeb sex tape suggests Jack
tried the Yunagi flavored one, then, without missing a beat, immediately asks
the erstwhile accused, to get him one to drink two. After Jack leaves,
Hogan suspiciously asks him if he's going to talk to Yatsu. Great shit,
that's really funny. That's really fucking wacky. In the archives, oh
yeah, oh my god, Haystacks were at a great list from from the
Archives presenting. I'm going to give you this. You know, of course,
the Lamentable tragedy, right, yes, yes, Heaven needed okay,
Heaven needed a champion. But we also have said over the years, because
that sparked it, Heaven needed a blank. Heaven needed a blank. We
did that for years after the Lamentable Oh yeah, and using that lapsed archive
transcription service lats on Patreon, folks supported on patreos, he went through and
found all of the things that Heaven is needed and most of the things Heaven
has needed on TLF go ahead, a champion, Yeah, sure it,
Oh man, can you have mischief with that one? An ass whipping a
lapsed fan. But on tracked, Heaven needed monetization. That again, Heaven
needed first last and security said that Heaven needed a deposit. Heaven needed a
stuffed trunk. Heaven needed an African champion. This was a fucking great.
Heaven needed a boneer boner, okay, a boner. Heaven needed a van
Eric in the sixth man. Heaven needed a soundstage, Heaven needed an upper
Yeah. Heaven needed a downer. Heaven needed a quelude. Heaven needed a
placidyl. Yes, Heaven needed a crack. Heaven needed eleven million dollars that
sure, did we all did it? Yes. Heaven needed a parade of
champions. Heaven needed a cringe. Heaven needed a doppel Ganger. Heaven needed
a novelty songwriter. Heaven needed a car salesman. Heaven needed a forty five.
Heaven needed my Mom. Heaven needed a stick man. Heaven needed a
kid what kidney? Heaven needed a rebate yea. Heaven needed a temperature controlled
service the magic of lats. Heaven needed me to hashtag me too. Uh.
Heaven needed some get discussed. Heaven needed some Heaven needed Downtown Dallas.
Heaven needed a footless man. Heaven needed a deep dive. Heaven needed a
social media manager. Heaven needed a delicacy. Haven't needed a bodega. Heaven
needed a Sullivan. Yes, Heaven needed a ring rat. Heaven needed a
fucking duck corpse. Hm. Heaven needed a skillet That's for sure. Heaven
needed pins and submissions to count in a battle royal. Heaven needed a slatin
Heaven needed a mama. Haven't needed Kamala. Heaven needed kamama. Oh my
God. Heaven needed a clean floor or a pair of shoes. Heaven needed
a rhythm. Heaven needed a beat. Heaven needed a Glen goes away.
Heaven needed a recording studio in Texas to get hit by lightning. Heaven needed
a penis baby. Heaven needed a false narrative. Yeah, that's for sure.
Heaven needed a father figure. Oh Jesus. Heaven needed a patriarch.
Heaven needed a referee. Heaven needed another spectator in that great wrestling arena in
the sky, another one. Heaven needed a mang meng. Oh. Heaven
needed a fabrication. Heaven needed a perspiration. Heaven needed a cock. Heaven
needed penetration. Yes, yes, Heaven needed the von Erics to bang their
teachers. Wow. Heaven needed a reugh break. Heaven needed a better ticket
sales on this particular night. Heaven needed a foot. Heaven needed fruit by
the foot episode. Imagine I imagine someone said, yeah, I haven't needed
a foot, and then one of us responded, yeah, haven't needed fruit
by the foot. That would I imagine that happened. Heaven needed a walking
boot, even needed a big boot. Heaven needed a nut. Heaven needed
to busts a nut. Even needed negativity. Heaven needed cynicism. Heaven needed
one more and the following our non tlf heavenly needs I guess. Heaven did
not need a pussy. Heaven did not need my fucking pussy say we say
at certain points. Heaven did not need I guess that's the thing need my
Heaven did not need my twat that's right. Heaven did not need more than
one champion. Heaven did not need a few. Heaven did not need a
face sitter Heaven. Heaven did not need a patron. Heaven did not need
enterritis. Heaven did not need an eight time champion. Heaven did not need
a flat back. Heaven did not need a good boy. Heaven did not
need a Christmas Special. Heaven did not need a Scott Hall. Heaven did
not need an investor. Heaven did not need an MC. Heaven did not
need exclamations like that. Heaven did not need a first intercontinental champion. Heaven
did not need a Ugandan giant. Heaven did not need this kind of dad.
Heaven did not need a hearthouse. Heaven did not need a parent.
That is fucking phenomenal. That's a great ship. That's on a whole different
level of Yes, yes it is. Oh patreon dot com slash lats lats
to get in on the fun and support the folks and hard work. It's
fucking hilarious. Oh my god, that's fucking my complete list of heaven needed,
speak of complete lists. We need to think is Jerome Cussen, Bobby
was Soobby, Eric Lapsed Fan, Marv Clinton Nelson, Richie McCormick, Rudy
Casserras, longtime supporter, Sawmon l A, Cody Davis, Nick Lombardy,
The Kid, Andrew Molton, Eric Coleman, Lance by Chance, Wesley Sexton,
Kevin, Justin Chambers, Matthew Wallaceuck, Justin Davenport, Ethan Doctor Wiz,
Pip, Corey Barnett, Alan Smith, Tim Murphy, Christopher Emily,
Devin Bray, Glenn Goddard, Sean Smith, Carlos Stallion, of course always
keeping it solid, Saxter, Jack Gillespie, Brobot, Sean Ryan Jacobs,
My god, so humbling m M it is Rob Wrights, gentlemen, proud
to be a motor. I have to ask as they're planned to take the
Iron Claw under the Cinema. I perused the IMDb page, did not see
a cast character listening for Gary Hart Glenn. This is when before it came
out Ken Manteller Glenn goes up for shame thoughts. I mean, of course
it's a shame that they didn't fucking you know, use them. But and
yes, of course, the I mean Iron Claw is coming under the cinemat.
Just need a certain amount of time to pass, right, Yeah,
yeah, I mean we got to get we need a little bit more of
the truth coming out as to the making of you know, it's it's it's
uh, not that I'm saying there's anything bad that happened, but you know,
stories don't always Yeah, you want the buy them out right away.
Yeah, I want to know what really happened, good or bad, good
and bad whatever it is. I like to hear a MJF story about how
he ended up nowhere anywhere to be found. I mean, that's just that's
that's that's Hollywood filmmaking right there. You know, like you got to cut
things for time, you never know. Yeah, but uh, I mean
yeah, I would be Yeah, I mean I'm curious to see how you
know, what why he uh uh wasn't in it more? Any of the
stories that happened behind the scenes. Yeah, yeah, really interesting. Back
on the progressing tease, Tip Kevin writes, Jack and JP, I didn't
start in my journey until the Pandemic. I finally caught up with the cast
in the Pandemic era. I first bought my I bought my first three shirts
in twenty twenty one for my buddy, two for me. I heard recently
you two talking about someone who bought the adult version of the Pimp King of
the Cad shirt. Yes, few, the few, the proud Boss.
I received my all Me Sawa Championship Wrestling shit today, so I decided to
snap my growing collection. I supported Golden Sword Gordon solely uncensored. Thank you
for all the hours of paid and laughter. Praise be the Warlord and good
ship barf Hendrix too. Oh I love it. Got the deep cut in
the collection. Oh that's amazing. Yeah, pim King of the Cad.
That's a tough one to buy, man, it is that it is when
you get the fucking you got the uh the stripper with the with the tassels
on her tits? What's the Sonco pain shirt? Someone just bought that and
I don't even remember that one. Uh yeah, I mean I did do
I did do a son Co Oh yeah, yeah, there it is.
Wow. I wonder who the fuck that is? Why would someone buy that?
That's fascinating. I mean, and I believe it was bought by a
woman. Yes it was. I'm actually for her husband or her boyfriend or
something. Fascinating, fascinating old anything you need on it, Yes, that's
right. I mean, what's the problem with that? I can't tell that
much joy gives me when someone buys one of those deep shirts. Oh,
I mean when someone buys a fucking Sonco shirt. That's a whole different level.
That's a whole different level, faster than Chuck Wrights. I just watched
a YouTube video making fun of old wrestling games, and I shit, you
not in w W Thunder. If you hold your player selector cursor on Kevin
Nash long enough, he tells you not to pick him because he's already made
his money for being in the video gaming. Wow. Sounds on brand.
Marcus Crouds, thanks for the cake, Aaron Busby, thank you very much.
Bryce bar two and Haiko Nichols Junior and Stephen Milkowski and Alexander Slocum and
connelingis Grand Prix World Champion of the World brother. Exactly very concerning. Thank
you, Mark Coleman. I'm sure to that one the Hammer meet h thank
you very much for your support. Raymond Barone also had to put an increased
spread punch down. It's actually Joe who writes fellas Joe from Denton here County
seat of Denton County, home to von Erics, about thirty miles north of
Dallas. Yes, I work for University of North Texas where one Steve Williams
played ball. I'm still looking for some kind of plaque or something on campus
dedicated to him. There has to be something. Lapsed Austin by Jack is
one of my favorite characters, by the way, always at the damn house
and whatnot, or going on about how he almost broke his damn neck.
I'm loving the Lapsed Funk series. I've been talking to myself in that kind
of high pitched monotone Terry Funk Hank Hill accent NonStop while I do chores around
the damn house. That voice replaced my lapsed brick flair voice, where I
would just mumble the words sea breezels and rum and cookes over and over again.
Wilt's doing chores and listening to TLF. That's the fucking magic, Joe,
you got it. Figure it out, be efficient and be entertained at
the same time. Anyway, I just stopped from ten to five to ten
a month since I got a pitty raise. You get a pitty raise.
No money on my education boys, Happy holidays, Thanks Joe, appreciate your
support. Man. Glad to hear that we're we're delivering for you. Remember
when we did Art of War Games and John Zandig was hung by his skin?
Oh yes, Chris writes to us, I just listened to your Art
of War Games about CZW. I was cracking up. A friend of mine
was a body piercer. He was also a photographer for CCW for a while,
and later a performer. He's the one who helped orchestrate this. Oh
done very safely. In reality, You're right, suspensions aren't as bad as
they look. The weed whackers and broken glass are in reality far worse.
But this is visually worse to those unfamiliar. The crowd was genuinely upset.
It was pretty funny, actually, was it pointless? Oh, absolutely,
But the time it was just a way to appear more extreme. Right or
wrong. I didn't care. Wasn't my thing? I do understand. I
mean safe or not? Okay, here's the thing. A guy's flesh was
pierced by a hook. Correct, multiple hooks. Correct. I don't.
I'm not interested in safety. I'm interested in not doing that. It's as
if you pinched the skin and we're able to pull up hard and strong enough
that it stretched like a piece of pizza cheese. I'm not interested. I
wish he raised his hand. We were doing out of war games. I
would love to have gotten an interview in with how that's pulled off. Right.
He thought it was funny that everyone was fine with all the bloody gore,
but this was too much. Yeah, I mean that's what they were
going for. They were trying to find that line, and they found it.
You ever gonna show Mama sorrow that? No, because I don't think
I want to watch that again. There you go, fair. Brian writes
to us a night at the theater. Oh boy, here we go to
the co chairs. I just wanted to say write in and said to say
thank you for a wonderful evening. Of Live Theater this past weekend. This
is oh, I haven't King of the Jews featuring the Price. Although I
haven't watched wrestling in over two decades, my intense fandom during that glorious period
from ninety seven to two thousand and one burned bright imprinting on my psych you
to the point where I still listen almost exclusively to podcasts of people talking about
wrestling from twenty five years ago. Anything before ninety seven, I only had
only vague memories of watching over my brother's older brother's shoulder. Post two thousand
and one, I couldn't bring myself to watch anymore once Austin hugged McMahon,
and so I had only the handwritten recaps of Raw and SmackDown that my younger
sister would put together for me each week. Until two thousand and three.
I have been a TLF listener for years, but I must admit that sometimes
that I sometimes get intimidated by your epic journeys and their length, their girth,
which can at times seem daunting, the downside of my joyful obsession with
TLF is that no matter how long a life I lead, I know I
will be dead and buried before I ever make a dent in the thousands of
hours of content thrust upon me to point I've done the math, and at
my current pace, there is just no way that being said, I have
dedicated every free moment of the past month taking the ninety seven WWE journey,
and it has been a revelation, having not seen these shows in decades.
I remember the details you described like it was yesterday. But more importantly,
each episode introduces me to new lapsed character moments I never knew I needed in
my life. From Sid calmly explaining to Vince that he has no intention of
fulfilling the dates on his current contract, to Austin explaining what neapolitan ice cream
is to JR. That's funny, vanilla? What chocolate? What strawberry?
Watt to Vader in the rain telling us what time it is, before immediately
slipping out of character, oh my gosh backstage during wrestling with Shadows to detail
his latest real estate development project. No matter what I am doing or saying
throughout the day, those characters are in my head. Regardless of how far
I've gotten from my years of peak fandom in the nineties, it seems clear
that the whole this business has over my life will never be relinquished. I
call both of my toddler daughters brother and dude. Toddler daughters brother and dude
with such frequency that they have now taken to addressing me as the same.
My wife has become accustomed to being referred to almost exclusively as mister hitman.
Yes. Even the woman at the drive through has to put up with me
ordering a lie right yaw, and I don't even like coffee. Yeah,
sorry about that one. That one's a yes. Because I am hundreds of
episodes behind and listening, I had no idea that the Boss would be appearing
live and in person right in our own backyard this month. Thankfully, my
wife must have taken to heart the fact that I had been wandering the house
for weeks repeating the phrase I went back, Yes, I went back in
a very distinctive Minnesota accent. Although never having watched a single second of pro
wrestling or listened to a minute of TLF, she was able to deduce,
through the magic of Twitter that an esteemed code chair would be in town as
a birthday present. My father could appreciate my wife, Oh, any father
could appreciate my wife gifted me not all with a ticket to the show this
past Saturday, but also an excuse to spend the entire day by myself in
New York City, left totally to my own devices. I spent most of
it wandering Chinatown, and perhaps it was something in the air that day,
but I just could not escape the Federation. I stopped in a thrift store
and was greeted by an oversized Sean Michael's doll, the one with the plush
body and plastic head, with slicked back mid nineties hair and grotesque proportions.
I wandered through a martial arts supply shop and was faced with obscure looks on
Comma and double Axe technique. I meandered down a small side street and looked
up to see the sign I expected. I was at the corner of Baxter
Street and Hogan Place. Brother Oh, before long, it was showtime.
I arrived the theater and took a seat at a table near the stage.
The cast members began to trickle in, and then there he was the Boss.
Yes, I already knew the incredible talent I would be witnessing from the
countless conversations I had heard between two completely distinct characters toggled everlessly by one man.
But I was not expecting to see the Boss Hunter up to the stage
and immediately sit down to join a jazz ensemble and begin playing a brass wind
instrument I've never seen before. That is the first scene. My understanding of
JP's drue talent was that was, at that moment taken to the next level.
And that was ever even before he took out an entirely different brass wind
instrument. I started like that, Boss, I knew you would. Oh
shit, oh god. My appreciation for this man's talent continue to go off
the charts into a new realm during the preceding two plus hours on stage,
showcasing an incredible range of emotions, all while doing a very specific accident and
even dipping into song at one point. You know, it's one of those
things you don't really realize. You know. What I find funny is I
don't even think of it as being a big deal, just doing the ship
that I did in the show. I can't do it successful enough if you
do. Yeah, I didn't, you know, I didn't even think,
you know, I didn't even think twice. But I'm very appreciative of this
email. This is a great email, and I you know, I'm always
a fan of stroking my own ego at times. It's good to see yourself
through others eyes, you know, Yeah, absolutely is it absolutely is.
Absolutely you can't. I see enough negativity on through other people's eyes about ours,
about us, So it's fine, you know, truly truly unbelievable to
finally get to witness this level of talent in person, after so many hours
spent listening each and every week, I was lucky enough to catch JP outside
the theater of the show after the show, and while I am sure I
stumbled over my words and have no idea what I even said, Cat,
such a warm and friendly interaction with the boss was a wonderful caper to an
amazing evening of theater. I remember that it was great. It was really
nice, you know, especially because it was someone you know, not part
of the group that came. Yeah. Yeah, this is a totally independent
ticket buyer. And I'm always I I say this if you, if if
I'm in a show and you're around, please let me know. I will
always I like coming out and hanging out with people after the show and seeing
people and I'm as you know, believe it or not. I mean,
I am very appreciative when people make the effort to come out and see it's
so great hitting the after we did that, Oh it was so much fun.
Good fucking cats and ship afterwards was a plan. Mow tier, get
together, walk in the streets. Just bullshit, stupid. It is great.
Fucking eating a ship ton of fucking corn beef overdid it big time.
Let's got to eat before the show, and then after the show, let's
to cats. Yeah, let's eat more. Let's eat like actually ten times
more than we're going to eat. Then we ate at the fucking Burger place.
That's that mote to your benefit, folks, only select few got the
invite. That's the way it's going to have to be. Thank you for
all the countless moments throughout the day when I think of something you both said
and kind of stop smiling, even when that day has otherwise got me down.
You're dueling awesome impressions during this ninety seven journey will light up even the
darkest corners of my life for the rest of my days. And now I
began the twenty plus hour Montreal deep dive for the first time. Sincerely,
Brian PS. When the day comes that I am able to contribute, I
will pay whatever it takes for a lapsed audiobook of the two thousand and six
w novel Big Apple Takedown. I don't know what the fuck that is.
I don't know what that is either. All right, interesting interesting notion there,
interesting notion. So thanks very much, great email. Yeah, big
thanks go out to Hey Darby l at Hey Darby Allen do a kickflip.
Yeah, that's the name. That's amazing. Hammond and Tony Fernandez an anonymous
and Jesse Harrison and George Sakaris and they call me Saltine Daltine because I'm white,
ash shit and salty in all the wrong ways. Brother, Rod McMahon,
Michael J. Tremarco and Rod mcman Ben Brown, Brandon Davis and s
and Steven Tackett and Jack Tracy and Adam Osbourne, Travis Wilcox, Adam B.
Miles, t Timothy Lee, Christopher Rupar Pete, Willie Thompson, Leo
Troy, Benjamin, Hedrick, Josh Wright, Tony b and Simon Ahearn.
Derek Dolozol recently bumped up his pledge and wrote my Spotify rap told me I
listened to you guys for thirty thousand minutes in twenty twenty three. If you're
trying to be in my ass that hard and long, I better nut up.
You can do better than that, Yeah, I know you can.
Mike writes two things that have destroyed my sides recently in The Lapsed Fan.
First, when JP was doing his Abbey impression and slipped in a you know,
and it sounded very Nashurally. The thought of a nash Abby synthesis tickles
me away that I can't describe. Please, for the love of all things,
I need to hear JP's Abbey voice saying nash things. Snacks, money,
I don't ten. Motherfucker's not about you. Uh. What's the only
thing that is real is the money and the mine. It's Kevin learned at
all. Uh, you know, motherfucker is not all about you. Eat
something anything about French connection, maybe French press connections. Fucking I'd like to
I'm a big fan of, you know, the Gene Hackman film. Always
whenever I get practice about it, I get the French toast and the French
toast connection with that Dulo Butcher. Yes, I think that's look, I
think you know what that is. It's absolutely correct me. This guy,
the French toast plates that he has put down the fucking oh fucking Christ,
the diners that didn't stand a fucking chance when the Abbey mobile pulled into the
fucking parking lot. Think of the amount of butter lost on this man.
Okay, Oh my god, it's stunning. Shaneson clayir leanne Amy Wilson,
Matthew Hardaway, Ross Miller, Kurt Siri, and Luke Pearson. William Murphy
in that moat tier. Shout out to William Murphy for doing the right thing
and joining the elite structure to the elite strata, we should say, Jonathan
Guzman, Andy Ellen, Nich Sackster, Jeff Jason Austin, Trevor Hendy and
Daniel Mohler and Robert Daniel Pearson, Michael Blanton, a boy, Mikey Blanton,
there coming Strong, Barry Middleton, Martin b jeff Rick Kobos, Todd
Harding, Chris m David barrand Patrick Lucas, Cody Nesmith, Michael Knight,
t r Andy Savage, Paul the Saint Twan Graham went all the way up
to fifty bucks because he knew it had to be done. Yeah, he's
a fucking because he's a monster, human being. Great. Annuel Herron,
Caleb Bowden, Sam O'Connor, Liam Stewart, DJ Liam Stewart again upping the
pledge, Antwine Fields, Corey Kirk, Thompson, Miles Martin, Jeran Frow,
Matt Steven, tack At, Ben buck ellis Bergman Roch Patel, Christopher
Emily, and of course David Prows. Another thing Mike said, besides the
Abbey thing, second contemplating suicide with Jack Briscoe. I never considered how funny
it would be to imagine Jack brisco of all people, contemplating suicide while he
runs down the mundane nous of his life. But here we are. There's
some sleepers in that NW a old title episode of the Last Yeah, yeah,
I think those that to get us yep, yep, I mean,
I think that's just the nature of Jack Briscoe, to imagine him narrating his
memoirs, Mike writes in a scene not unlike Brooks from Shashank Redemption, when
he steps on the chair and hangs himself. Yes, yes, Jess Risco
was here, Jack, right, brisk yess exactly. Yes. This is
from Fred Peter Weller and Capitol Combat nineteen ninety Return of RoboCop. Yes,
DeReKo Chairman. I'm out of New Orleans Fan XPO and just met Peter Weller.
I'm a history teacher and got him to talk by asking him about his
PhD in Renaissance history. After I took my picture, I had to ask
him if it was him in the suit of Capitol Combat ninety. He jokingly
put his head down in sighed when I mentioned I was a wrestling fan.
That you get, by the way, Fred, that's right, that's right.
Fucking get a complete listen. He now totally regrets is spending. He
knew better than to warm up his days. God forgetting that he ever talked
to you. Ah, His goal is to forget it's you. It was
adamant that it was not him in the costume. He then went on to
say that people got sued, especially in Japan, for copyright and infringement.
Not sure what he's referring to, he stated that people in Japan say stuff
because they don't think people in America will find out or hold him legally responsible.
I'd my tongue about what Hogan said in Japan about the IGP Championship versus
the WWF Championship. Yeah, I don't think that would have done you any
favors with Peter Well, yeah who. So you know that's always a subject
of speculation. I think we settled it pretty strongly, RoboCop under the cinemat
that it was not him. Yes, it's not him, but it's not
him. But if you need to hear a dispatch from a Great Solar System
member, making sure to keep us in mind and checking out the box in
person, there it is. I love it. Boss, Let's hit.
Let's hit Neil Forbes's email. I'm not sure we're going to be able to
play the link, but we can tell people about it and they can check
it out if they wish. Greeting his code chairs. I hope you and
your families are well. I mean, I'm a bit behind the podcast.
Your work ethic continues to be enviable, but I must say the Lapsed Funk
Journey is some of your best work yet. I'm a bit of a I'm
a bit young to ever see much of Terry Funk's career, although amusingly,
if you ask my mother to name five wrestlers. I guarantee you she would
include Chainsaw Charlie in that list. She was obviously in the room during that
episode of Raw and found it hilarious. But what more do I need to
say? TIEF transports me into different places and times and lets me properly appreciate
this legend. Now, none of these other wrestling podcasters, because it could
succeed in this goal. They quite simply do not have the skill, the
work, ethic, or indeed the balls to do. So yeah, fuck
them. There's only one wrestling podcast that matters, that's right, only one
that is fuck them, only one that is going to stand the test of
time far in the future. Will be Really, we listen to TLF on
our fucking deathbeds now wanted something sillier. It's quite possible someone already pointed us
out, and if so, just ignore this male. But I recently heard
Metallica's nineteen ninety eight cover version of the song Whiskey in the Jar. The
music video for this played all the time on the rock stations when I was
growing up. At this time. There was something extra special about it because
this was my first time hearing the song since the TNAH journey Oh. Vocalist
James Hetfield's prominent ad libs are particularly exaggerated in this performance. Go to the
start of the chorus at two thirty one in the official video. Okay,
I'm now opening it up. This is an ad rather skip two thirty one,
he said, for the sounds like the fucking funk theme right there.
It does. But anyway, two thirty one, here we go. Let's
see what goes on here. Whoa you mean? It sounds just like it?
It does suit again, that's awesome. Oh that's funny. That's very
TNH. Well done, great dispatch. Wait to keep your ear to the
ground. Pal, Thank you you, and thank you Burning Hammer and Chris
Beard Sell and Stove and Bryce Bartwo and Chris Webley and Goose Hudson and JP
Hardy and Jacob and Matt Anderson and Jesse Harrison, Brandon Davis and Lucky and
Jerry Zagarelli and Joseph Kmino And there's someone who's sucking. Who's handle is jap
P Hardy? Fuck that that's for you. That totally is Keenan James Milsom
and andrews Sieberg and Nick p and Toronto Joe and Jared Wolf and Darryl Wilkins
and Steven Tackett and Michael Tremarco, Chris Harris, Sewan, Mike Palmy,
Dan Haggerty, Thomas d Timothy Lee, Jay, Nick Williams, Steve Nick
Lombardy and Paul Barrett and Adam Graver and Dalton Hastings and Daryl Wilkins and Matt
had enough of a list for everybody. The fuck do you want from us?
How about seriously Vernon coming out at the fucking mote tier level right out
of the gate, and writes deer coach chairman, I trust this message finds
you well. My name is Jeffrey, though in the wrestling circle I go
by Vernon. I recent made the decision to step away from free loading after
finding inspiration in your Collision in Korea episode Jack's word struck a chord with me
put my money where my mouth is as a true consumer, not a freeloader,
and I'm delighted to express my deep appreciation by becoming a Mote Tear member.
From day one, my journey with your podcast began as I sought an
alternative to my weekly Jim Cornett episodes, which have been a staple since twenty
sixteen. While I've explored various wrestling podcasts over the years, your stood out
with the insane deep dive you did in TNH. When I heard the announcement
clip and wanted to see how anyone could discuss Hull, COGD and TNA at
such length. Needless to say, I became obsessed. Your in depth explorations
of the sport of kings has become the soundtrack to my daily routine as a
self proclaimed wrestling story and among my friends. My fandom dates back to the
early nineties growing up in the Bronx. My fondest memory is cheering on hul
Cogan from the Nosebleeds of MSG for the one show my grandfather and father took
me to my family. Immigrants from Nicaragua during the contrast Sendenista conflict, added
a unique perspective to my wrestling journey. Despite language barriers, my grandfather introduced
me to the world of wrestling, creating a cherished tradition of bonding over weekly
TV and my daily bombarding him to tell me more stories. He often talked
to me about Olsanto and Blue Demon. I was learning all those stories about
legends and about things I had never seen, but fell deeper in love with
because he loved it so much. I developed my Spanish speaking as well as
my love of wrestling. School life demands took over during my seniorear of high
school and O two, so I stopped watching WWL together. My wrestling passion
resurfaced in college after my grandfather's sudden death. Being lapsed, I was lost
until four I discovered the early wrestling internet radio shows. I explored Japanese wrestling,
any wrestling, and embraced the world of tape trading. I realized much
of what I enjoyed about wrestling and is the communal part and getting to talk
about it and argue with my friends. In that small way, The IWC
became my secret friends that I could talk about wrestling while still getting to be
a cool college guy while wrestling nerd. At the same time, I am
a pastor, and of course, my wrestling passion became intertwined with my studies.
During my final semester of getting my master's Boston University School of Theology,
I pursued pro wrestling training in Rhode Island, while my ring aspirations shifted to
being a manager due to my athletic limitations. It brought me joy and some
mild success pro wrestling and became the focus of my doctoral project titled Getting Over
Leadership Lessons from two Corinthians and Territory Professional Wrestling. My paper was approved and
wrestling helped me become a doctor. I shared the snippet of my journey to
express my gratitude for what I've learned about your story and to convey my thanks
with both words and some support in the form of cash. Best regards,
Vernon, tremendous story, tremendous origin story. Yep, it's happening out there
every single day, every single time we pick up the mic. It's to
see through things like that and wrapping up here Cold Stone, Steve Austin.
I loved Mama Sorrow referring to Big Boss Man as mister Boston. Oh God.
Even better was her asking who's the blue guy walking around like he's having
his nails done? Yes, what a bizarre, but hilarious and accurate way
to describe Achem. Yes, like he's having his nails done. That's true
at the wrist, Yeah, it makes total sense. I had no problem
with that whatsoever. The live calls continued to drop. We did our rumble
duty this year and Andre Andre picked this up. There's never been a more
prophetic live call in history like there was with this one. Between Jack calling,
the t Anda involvement and JP's dating Punk would tear something and not make
it to Mania. Yep, just another reason why there's only one fucking cast.
Yes, and Stephen, on that same live call writes, finally,
after almost eight years, the co chairs have popped the Missus Rumble twenty four
call our truth entrance. Mmm, price is right theme, Well, it's
a family feud, But I digress, and we close this episode with Steve
and Saint Louis greeting's co chairs. My tale of Lapstom is one as old
as time. I described myself as thrice lapsed, the first being in nineteen
ninety three when I started getting hair in my crotch and the product was pissed
poor. Then back in the groove around the time of Bad Blood, which
took place in my home base of Saint Louis. Around then I became a
rabbit fan, found ECW and still hold memories from ninety seven through two thousand
and two or so, very dear. I lapsed again in two thousand and
two, as things weren't quite the same without ECW around, Plus I finally
started getting regular pussy. That's right. I clawed my way back around One
Night's Stand and the subsequent ECW reboot, but found the WWECW was not for
me, surprising unsurprisingly, and lapsed again. I'm lapsed to this day,
though I still watched the plees and stay relatively current with the goings on,
So maybe not so much. Sonthing b exactly like? Yeah, and and
you by proxy by force? Yeah? Right, I've never really lapsed in
terms of the nostalgia, he writes. I stumbled on something to wrestle early
on and was a loyal listener to the Conrad casts and still am to some
degree. But since Bruce has it to the company line and Jr. Only
gets excited about Alpha males and barbecue sauce, I found myself wanting more.
I kept reading about this thing called the lapse. F Hey, that's me,
I thought to myself, But who are these guys and why the fuck
do I want to listen to them talk about Survivors Series eighty eight for seven
hours? Oh boy, that's what they always say. In the beginning isn't
it. Yep. That's how we got them. Yep. And you know
by now I didn't want to listen to anything I fucking needed too. Did
he underline a word needed, boss, Yes he did. And on that
topic, can we just shout the following from the fucking rooftops? The podcast
is seven hours because that's how long it fucking takes. They laugh at their
own jokes because they're fucking funny, he writes in bold. So far,
I'm not really seeing any problems now that that's out of the way. The
truth is, I don't have all that much time to listen to podcasts these
days. I'm a single father with shared custody of two young children. Dude,
that's fucking that is some tough shit, man. I have a demanding
job that I can rarely cast during, and I no longer commute to the
office, so that time is gone. I still have over three hundred episodes
in my backlog, and who knows if I will ever forget to them.
For two years, I have used this as a poor excuse for not tithing,
and I'm so very ashamed of being such a bitch, because my need
is not about the volume of content TLF provides. My need is deeper than
that. It's because if I am depressed because I miss my kids, yes,
or have a rough day of work, TLF can turn me around.
It's because if I'm busy on a weekend with one of the multitude of house
chores or repairs, I have TLF in my ears, yes and deep up
my ass to get me through it with a fucking smile. What it all
boils down to is that if I was without this podcast, it would affect
me emotionally. As Vince would say, you put smiles on faces. That's
right. It's not the only podcast I listened to, but it's the only
one that fucking matters. Yes, it is his words, folks, not
ours. I devoured the lamentable tragedy ahead of the Iron Claws release. I
can't wait to learn more about the Funks than I ever thought I needed to
know. The TNH journey was a fucking phenomenon, and I gobbled it up
despite my having never watched more than five minutes of TNA in my life.
You're welcome, TNA, by the way. By the time we were done
with TNH Boss, they were bringing back the TNA name like Jesus. I
decided after completing that one that I would make TLF my first and only Patreon
purchase. Hoof Double Bizz Boss do the thing hit Dixie's music for us one
time. Oh fuck, But it was this gem I have transcribed below that
truly put me over the edge. LAP Scribes feel free to use as you
please Episode three twenty four, Bash at the Beach ninety five for the universe,
I direct you to timestamp two fifty two, and if you have the
time, I would humbly ask Jack to read this back as only he can,
and I quote as JP comes like a fucking inferno when Randy Savage makes
his way to the ring to do battle with Brick Flair, holding as Jack
so aptly indicates a fistful of slim gems in his hands, slim Jim for
everybody, everyone needing a snap. I'm telling you right now, I got
no chips, I got nothing else, but I do have some little slivers
of meat. Here we go, handing out the sweaty meat here at Bash
at the Beach. This has gotta be you. Oh, this is you?
This is it? Why do you have me say it? Oh?
All right, alright? Said it? To me, it's fucking do it
in the spirit of TLFX. It's that fucking mailbag show Winter twenty twenty four.
Oh God, swim gym for everybody. Everyone needed a snick, telling
you right now, I got no chips, I got nothing else, but
I do heal some little slivers of meat. Here we go handed the sweaty
meat. Here at bish at the beach, sweaty sticks of beef cured beef.
You know what I meant. Here we go smoky, sweaty cured beef.
Ah huh. I like it. I like it. I'm feeling that
shit. Everybody wants a piece of the slim gym slim Jim spash at the
beach. Oh yeah, I fucking feel it. Uh, stick it up
your ass fans. Uh oh uh, I'm digging it. I like it.
I like it. Everyone wants a slim gin Rick Fleer. You want
a slim Jim, Here you go, and I getting it on one on
one. I don't mean any disrespect, not trying to get in front of
you, but here I go. I got an extra piro slim gems.
You want one, You and your lady in the back and go back nibble
on a slim Jim after the match. Not trying to force anything. Nope,
Nope, not trying to force anything on you. We get it done.
But I want just want to offer you something saying here as a moment
to break Keith Fabe in front of the fans. Uh. You and me
sharing a gym in a gym. Wonderful, You and me sharing a gym,
a slim gym. One two three, I'm digging it. Here we
go, get it on fire. I'm looking at you right now like a
man, the man. What do you want? What are we doing?
Where are we gonna go from here? What's the next step. I'm looking
at the Kingdom of the madness. It's filled with slim gems. You know
what I mean. Hey, I'm saying, hey, you know we were
fucking leaking out, leaking out of the window. Slim gym. Oh my
god, you gotta say that. You gotta chane a slim Jim. You
gotta sorry. You got a chain of gyms. I gotta chain of slim
gyms. We're doing the same thing. Wait, because it gets better.
One is about exercise the ether. One is about exercising your right to eat
sweaty smoke meat. Ah, shit. I'm telling you right now, these
slim gyms have been out in the sun a long time and that's the only
reason why they're a little damp. All right. They're not ones. I'm
not saying they're bad. They got them purchased today, all right, expires
in two weeks. We got two weeks to eat these. But they're but
they've been outside now. There's no place for us to go inside right now,
so they maybe a little sweaty, a little bit of that, if
you will, condensation. You know what I'm talking talking about now. I
don't mean it is respect. Not trying to pull anything over on you,
on you fans, on your announcers, on any everybody who's snacking on a
slim gym right now. Not what I'm trying to do. I'm here,
I'm being honest. I'm telling you the wave that it is. Macho man,
Randy Savage go through slim gyms this morning at the hotel. All right
here they are right now, Uh huh. They might be a little sweitty.
They've been out in the sun for a little while. It's hot day
out here at Huntingdon Beach. What are you gonna do with the slump Gym.
Are you gonna eat it? You're gonna take it, You're gonna snap
into it. I don't know. That's up to you. Not my places,
not my place to tell you what to do. All right, you
are your own people out there. What I'm suggesting is that you all understand
right now, Slim Gym is presenting badge at the beach Bade best of number
one show the summer, the biggest party, the place. You're gonna take
the meat. You're gonna eat the meat. You're gonna shove it a bess.
You're gonna take in your hends that I got, my Slim Jim.
I'm gonna shoot it off into the fans. Now, if that he writes,
wait, did I say that? Is that what you're saying? He's
saying you said all that? I fucking said that. Jesus. Now,
if that he concludes, isn't worth my three sixteen every month and nothing is
also? Come on, people, don't be like me. It's thirty eight
bucks a year. You know what else? I pay thirty eight bucks a
year for fucking dish washer, dish washer, booster, powder, rock salt
for my driveway. That's right, cheese, It's get your wallets out and
do what's right. Well, I think you're geting rip off on the cheese.
It's man, it shouldn't cast you thirty eight dollars a year for cheese
its it's slim gyms for that amount year's supply. Thank you for making my
life just a little bit better every week. Thank you for hulcomania, and
thank you for filling my oozing filth chasm, for always invading a hole that
was at one time alone and empty, and for making me gape like Kerry
von Eric's mouth as he scrambles for the next line of a promo tool belt
for Daddy aka Steve and Saint Louis. We'll see you next time on that
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