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And so thanks to everybody for the
fulsome lapsed Funk feedback. It was a

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journey we won't soon forget. But
as I mentioned, the mail bag has

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been brimming for months now with some
great missives and insights and you know,

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warranted appreciation prompts from members of the
Solar System. Boss. Sure, I

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couldn't believe my eyes on this one, considering how we started this mailbag episode,

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this one from Brandon, Jack and
JP. I don't listen to every

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episode of Under the Cinemat, but
I couldn't resist the Punisher. Sorry,

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I'm sorry that you couldn't resist the
Punisher. Last week's episode had it all

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laps Nash cameo JP requested was awesome. Yeah, what are the odds?

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It's fucking funny we're hitting one all
these months later. That's hilarious. Duncan

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talk. Yeah, I talked to
him because I was like, I asked

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him because I askedhim about the hair. The hair on my cameo. That's

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what it was. I asked him
about his hair getting Like why they had

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to do it on TV as opposed
to like that that's right, not on

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set, Like why not just do
it the fucking day? Before, like,

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why do you have to make a
fucking gimmick out of it? It's

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a dandy episode available in our Patreon
archives. Indeed, the episode Brendan's Has

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also has Duncan Talk fig feds.
I personally mixed in Batman the animated series

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and Power Rangers figures with my hasbros. Clay faced like major heel and did

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a great choke slam. Tommy the
Green Ranger had great mobility and did a

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money hurri Kanana who would have shut
boss? Sure? Sure, hey,

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you know that's you know, blending, blending the Toy universe. The Toy

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Universe is into wrestling. I mean
I did he Man all the time,

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The he Man, the he Man
figures back in the day. They they

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were they could do a great superkick. Oh really, the way that their

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bodies were they had got there.
Their legs were connected by like a rubber

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band, like a giant, you
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they could bend in the right way
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So they did a great, a
great superkick. And most of them looked

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like they had been to see George
Zahian, right, Yeah, they did

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look like like patients of the Good
Doctor sections of old newspaper articles is another

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mark in favor of the Punisher.
Cinemat episode, Brandon says also Jim Barnett

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my personal favorite lapsed character, offering
to blow a guy under a desk city

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council traffic discussions. Oh yes,
Hogan, brother, what I was thrown

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in there? I'm sure to throw
somebody off, in particular down in Tampa

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Bay. Well, we did,
we did, I do remember if you

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remember correctly he was he was supposedly
because they were shooting. They shot in

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Tampa. They they he supposedly shot
scenes in that that club sequence of the

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movie. Yes, yes, but
we they if they if he did,

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they cut it out because there's nothing. There's no Hogan in there at all.

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Southern Lawyer of Massachusetts mashups. Yeah, this ship was also with greatest

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hits on most of t That's where
we did that. Yeah. If you're

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looking forward TLFX, where we did
holy shit, that's the Punishers where we

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did the because yeah, because the
director's from Massachusetts and he's from he's from

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that area. The fucking do that
kind of it feels good to remember these

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things. Oh my god, he
right to this show is almost the greatest

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hits of TLF all right, I
think it will definitely be a cast.

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I revisit anyone listening to this not
signed up for the EPTR, stopping a

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bitch and go sign up. He
writes, this UTC episode alone was worth

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twenty dollars. I was fifteen when
The Punisher was released in theaters. I

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actually remember going to the mall with
my friends to see the film. I

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also purchased the soundtrack. Yeah,
I know, fucking loser. TLF brought

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me back to this simpler and happier
time. I never listen. Listen.

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Nobody who buys a soundtrack for a
movie is a loser in my book.

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Yeah, there's no room for boss
on that front. I'm a fucking I'm

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such a fucking film score nerd that
there's no no, that's that's that's fucking

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cool in my book. The Punisher
definitely punished my ass, But I'm for

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more VTC, he says. That's
right. As we get closer to tlf

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X ten years in the making,
I wanted to share some additional thoughts.

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I found the cast in twenty seventeen
due to my late discovery, I am

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not a Day one listener. But
when utc rolled out, I knew I

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could be a Day one EP,
so I signed up the first day at

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Month Live. Now I can proudly
say I have joined the mote. The

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mote. Fucking that's a fucking man
right there. That's the story of our

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lives right there. Get him on
the hook and before you know, it's

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something that they scoffed at in the
beginning as something they can't do without.

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I don't want to get misty.
I'd like Richard Fleer. Then i'd have

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to the mains twenty four. But
just like a lot of other members in

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the Solar System, this cast means
a lot to me. Every time you

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turn on the microphone's history is made. In my opinion, TLF, it's

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like a phone called you missed between
your two best friends. However, they

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recorded the entire conversation and sent it
to you afterwards, so you didn't miss

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out. TLF has seen me through
rough days of the office, fucking COVID

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lockdowns, and late nights rocking my
newborn son to sleep. Deep down,

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I know one day I will be
gone, or the cast will be gone.

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This day will hurt, but thankfully
we have the back catalog hashtag's Shelf

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Life tag goat podcast for generations of
lapsed fans to come. Hopefully my son

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won't be included in this, but
who am I kidding? I will force

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him to watch wrestling as an excuse
to take him to shows, purchased toys,

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et cetera. What a sad state
of affairs pause? Isn't that the

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true? Any lapsed fan before the
kids are too young to know any better

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are going to have all these wrestling
figures that they really didn't even ask for.

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Yep, yep, No, it's
true. I'd like empathetic. I

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remember my dad buying a bunch of
toys that he actually wanted from the play

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I bought, you know, back
in the day. I bought my daughter

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like about twenty five of those women
wrestlers trying to get it in before they

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realized how fucking laming stupid it was. Fucking idiot dad. Although she she

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does say she would go with me
to Madison Square Garden again if I asked,

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Well, yeah, of course,
it's a fun, live thing to

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do. Yeah, it's not that, it's just like really all the time

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that it's entertaining. You gotta go
talk about that shit more. You have

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a whole round of shame in pain
right when you're in school as a rest

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fan. Oh absolutely, And then
you have a whole other round of shame

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and pain when your kid looks at
you and you're like, they're like,

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you watch this, Like I can't
tell my friends you watch this? Like,

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right, what kind of parent are
you? Like at some point she's

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going to say, she's gonna say, oh, what does you know?

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Does your dad do anything? He
records a podcast? Oh? Really,

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what's it about any of those?
Any of those recently boss where somebody asks

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you what you what you've been doing
lately and you say, I know,

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not since the show. Actually,
actually it's not true. I have Well,

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although you know what did the question
didn't ask? I actually did tell.

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I did tell somebody today, but
they didn't. They didn't ask,

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like what it was about? All
right, I know totally they I would

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have loved to have gotten the nothing
over the holidays from a relative you haven't

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seen it in a while or anything
like that. Well, they always ask

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how the podcast is going. They
always ask how it's going. It's like

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it's going great, Like we have
another fucking banner year? What do you

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want from me? I say,
it's going lousy? Is that like you

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ask me these questions about the fucking
pot? I mean, yeah, it's

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going. It's going phenomenal right now, So eat ship exactly, hope,

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I hope you weren't expecting another answer, by the way, right hopefully my

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son. Okay, Yes, this
wrestling ship, Brennan writes, is a

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disease. We as lapsed fans,
have no cure for it. But Jack

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and JP you make it so much
better. Ding ding ding. That is

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that is perfectly stated. Also,
I noticed someone online saying, asking,

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have you what made you lapse from
TLF h Oh big mistake. Uh listen,

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we need to get we need to
get this guy the crisis counseling line

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right away. When people start talking
that mess, you know that they're people

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do and you know what people do. And then and then what happens they

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come back. They had tone they
do to they weren't that they were talking

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ship. You know, it's fine, very tolerant of that. We understand.

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We've been through several cycles cycles of
it ourselves. Of course personally in

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my life lapsed from WWUFC and now
aw He writes, Wow, that was

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fast ever well I Ever lapse from
TLF. The listener patron for Life brothers

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holler Brandon, Thank you, Brandon. It's wonderful to have you in our

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corner and can verify by the way
that that motherfucker bumped up to the moat

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Tear damn right, Derga, Welcome
to the TLF Patreon universe. We appreciate

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your pledge and hope you're enjoying the
content. Christopher Emily, Welcome to that

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fucking executive producer, Tear. Thanks
for the cake, James writes, dearest

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inflictors of shitcutter oblivion, shit cutter
oblivion. Wow. Just listening to the

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Summer Mailbag episode part one and the
listener who mentioned the death of modern wrestling

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is when commentators started to talk about
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effect. Are we still talking about
finishing the story, aren't we? Boss?

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We are? I mean we're talking
about story onishing the storytelling, finishing

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said storytelling sequences, sequences of moments
of momentary excitement, of of of choreographed

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mayhem. And as we look upon
yet another new year, I do need

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to make it a resolution every year
to come out with my annual shortlist of

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phrases, we must retire to retain
the integrity of the species, and this

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year's is in this moment. This
is a very lazy shortcut. You hear

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a lot on like NPR and a
lot of formats where people are trying to

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sound very sort of aerodite and very
learned and very kind of like sensitive,

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and it's it's a red herring for
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you mean do you mean today?
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I mean, are you talking about
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like we're how about we're not in
a moment. How About we don't know

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what moment we're in until a decade
after it happens. Right, how about

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we stop pretending that something that happened
last week is momentous before we have any

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fucking clue if we're going to remember
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moment. What's happening now, more
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how it impacts the future. How
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that like, oh my god,
we look back at it even it was

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like we were wearing a different skin. I don't even fucking remember moments,

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got her. You have to you
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out what is and isn't significant.
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for that moment otherwise than that moment, for that time to pass, because

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otherwise you seem like a moron talking
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you catch you, I don't know. We got to record every moment.

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Every moment needs to be a moment. Yeah, it's it isn't even it

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isn't even a reference to a particular
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Like you know, somebody came up
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that I guess was a moment.
But what they mean is this moment.

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They mean like there's a theme that
ties together everything that's happened in the

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past six months. And it's like, can you keep that first draft of

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history and the drafts folder please?
You know what? I had a moment

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today. I had a yeah,
a moment in the bathroom took a leak.

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In this moment, I'm shitting my
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know. In this moment, I'm
evacuating my my bowels. I just have

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bos. That's all. That's all
it comes down to. No, No,

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I mean, listen, you're you're
you're on the right side of it

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all. Thank you. Let me
know when I'm not okay, I know

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I can. I will, I
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like like when my grandfather, my
dad always said, he said, if

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I ever act like my father,
take me in the back and shoot me.

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So I'll do the same thing.
Look Out, I didn't say to

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shoot me, but okay, well
I'll shoot on you. Yeah, that's

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right, or at least something to
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that suggestion, James writes with sequence
who I knew that was coming. I

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said it before I even read it. It was bad enough when fuck heads

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on Twitter would say it, and
companion to a ten second clip of something

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only mildly exciting. But the shark
was well and truly jumped. When you

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hear Michael Cole or Corey Graves exclaim, wow, what a sequence on the

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call fucking hate fucking rast laying Yes, awkward landing. That's another one,

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Like we're now acknowledging on the wrestling
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a fall because it's totally phony,
right, ooh, bad landing. Where

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was this figure skating? I thought
this wasn't ballet. It is ballet.

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Come on, it's a dance like
oh that would actually hurt folks because he

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fucked it up? What are we
doing here? What are we doing?

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Maybe Zach going answer late mail bag? All right? Uh, Zach morning

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Chentz. Sorry for this late late
email, but I'm just now getting to

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the tnh mail bag and figured i'd
shared my TNA house show experience for you.

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It's pre Hogan, but I do
think it's relevant to how To.

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I think it's how sad empathetic TNA
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in el Myra, not to be
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and I got a couple of my
high school buddies to meet up there since

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it was sort of in the middle
of our for all our colleges. It

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was a tiny hockey arena that was
maybe half full at best, like one

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hundred people, so being college kids, we were pretty rambunctious all night.

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In particular, this show happened right
after Christian joined up and Kurt Angle got

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hit with a dui like the week
prior, so when their main event match

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started, I stood up in the
AA did it quiet, and shouted,

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de you way, Oh boy,
those were the dead at the top of

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my lungs. That's really fucking great. I will never forget the death stare

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that Kurt Angle shot my way full
ninety degree pivot to the soft cam side.

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He probably wanted to handle me like
Bob Holly did Daniel Peter. And

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that's not even the best part.
Later in the match, Christian has him

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a kneeling an, a kneeling rest
sleeper. When my buddy yells that's right,

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get him in his weakness, his
broken freaking neck, and then I

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chime in, this is fucking you, and I would do no, get

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him in his real weakness, give
him a beer and his keys. Jesus

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christ guys, ruthless, Come on, Perkangle deserves better than that. The

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entire place, No, he doesn't. The entire place erupts in laughter,

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and Christian corpses so much that he
actually dropped the headlock. I'm sure he

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had some hard words for Christian backstage, but at least Christian wasn't banging his

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wife right well, Karl's best finisher
would have been the key lock. I'll

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tell you that I don't remember much
else about that show, about the show

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because and eight two thousand and eight
TNA wasn't much better than DNA era,

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but figured i'd share since the same. Then, the shame of being a

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wrestling fan binds us together, and
we deserve it. That's right. Shame

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to tell you, Zach. But
those those or the memories you have,

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even if you remember every single thing
that happened in the ring on the oh,

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yeah, you know, you're gonna
remember joking around with your friends and

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trying to pop each other. That's
like, it's the whole fucking thing We've

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been doing over ten years here.
It drives some people nuts, thankfully they're

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gone ten years. But we've been
doing it since fucking two thousand and one.

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Right, this is just a continuation
of the same fucking thing. We

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would fucking do it at all these
shows, sitting in it was baked in

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alright, sitting up at a quarter
filled dunkin Donut Center, up in the

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fucking rafters, dressed like JR.
Purposely screaming yes balcony tickets for a show

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we knew would not sell out the
lower bowl. We can screen forward better

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seats, but we chose to see
the balcony shows. We said, how

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funny would it be if we sat
up there by ourselves? Essentially because we

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knew how like how much like you
know, when you buy the tickets,

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they just show you what's what's available. It's like everything was available. You

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know. It was a fucking It
was ridiculous. And what do I remember?

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I remember saying things like, you
know, he should team book a

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TSHA team with Goldberg and call the
team whoopee Goldberg. Yes, I remember

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these things, you know, yes, and and uh, you know,

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probably spouting our favorite big show.
You know, he's he's got a family

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to feed. Hell, he's got
himself to feed. In this vain Zach

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writes in My Wrestling, I want
carnies, not social media personalities pretending to

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be cool wrestlers. And he also
urges you, boss to eat that WWF

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cereal that we got for Christmas.
All right, but those preservatives, he

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says, it will be all good. And this is a member of the

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bar here, So there we go. You could take that to the bank,

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John calla Hill. We want to
thank you for the Patreon pledge.

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Welcome to the vip t or same
to you, Tim Brick it's a pleasure

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to have won your confidence and your
business. Ellis rights. Regarding the passage

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of time, we are now as
far away from Lex Luger slamming Yokazuna and

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the intrepid as Lex Luger slamming Yokozuna
was from Bruno Si Martino's title win over

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Buddy. Wow. That's horrifying.
I mean that is because Nobodice's black and

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white TV. Yes, you know, it's like you can't there was a

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year where there wasn't where there wasn't
color TV, and the next year when

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there was. And even though that's
one year, it had to have seen

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like thirty year difference between the two, oh totally. And so when you

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tell me that like ten years before
something that happened in the sixties was the

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fifties, I ah, just can't
process it. Time moves more slowly,

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and that's the way it should have
been. I don't know who said it.

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Someone said it just so plainly the
other day on something I was watching,

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and I son of a Bitch,
and I made a point to remember

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who said it. Now I already
forgot. Someone just came right out and

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said life was so much better before
social media no, yeah, and they

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just said it in a way that
wasn't like they weren't trying to make a

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case, they weren't trying to,
like, you know, get engagement.

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They were just in a talk format
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it isn't that. Isn't that so
simple? Yes? I argue with that.

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You can't. You can't argue with
that. I mean, come on,

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folks. Some things it's improved,
but there's no way in the final

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math, it's I mean, really, the thing that that it's really improved

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for the most part is it just
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Yeah, that's something, right,
It makes people feel special. I'm not

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against that, No, I'm not
against it. But what's great is you

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can keep in touch with relatives and
friends you otherwise wouldn't keep in touch with

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and watch them get radicalized every day. That's great. Well, the the

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and the really the best part is
the fact that you can you can keep

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in touch with people without actually have
keep in touch with it, right,

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you can keep in touch with it
the way you really want to, which

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is by doing nothing at all.
Doing nothing at all. It's like just

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watching them and making comments in your
mind. When you see the picture of

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them. We're trying to be happy. It's a fucking beautiful situation we're in

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here. Chris, thanks very much
for the pledge. We appreciate it.

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My friend Evan Schlansky, Yes,
we appreciate that. Cake Ben Oddsley,

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longtime supporter, recently up the pledge. We did notice that. We want

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to make sure to send a shout
out your way. Zach also right,

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you know, we haven't got a
lot of pap us Sorrow on the cast.

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Had no offense to Mama Sorrow or
JP. But after meeting him at

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Survivor series, which Zach did when
we did the Moat get together at at

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the Garden, I think he might
be the star of the show. Yeah.

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Anybody who meets John Sorrow and you
come home, except he doesn't.

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He wants like nothing to do with
it. Tell me about it. He's

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wise. What does he think about
wrestle Mamia? Oh well, he thinks

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hilarious, Like he thinks it's hilarious, especially you know when my mom goes

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off on these weird tangents about like
her childhood and shit like he he you

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know, when he's in the room
for that, he's oftentimes. You know,

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if you, if you listen,
if you, if you're if you

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are a motor you you've probably heard
by this point the sound of like dishes

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being cleaned in the background at times, you know, because because there's my

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dad cleaning dishes while we're while my
mom and I are watching wrestling phenomenal.

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Yeah, and it's like if you
if you ever saw half the ship that

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my mom says gets the reaction of
him like turning around and looking at her

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like yeah, or or just like
shaking his head like, oh, you

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know, just disappointed the best.
Yeah, he showed up, man,

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he showed up. That's virus series
get Together and like the pizza was on

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order and it was glorious. He
took their of business. Yeah, he

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has lapsand shirt on too, didn't
he. That's right, that's right,

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he listen't he's he fully supports the
show, and he'd probably come on at

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some point, but I don't think
he he he wouldn't have the same like,

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he wouldn't have the same train of
thought with like my mom, would

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you know right right right? He
wouldn't sit there and be as inquisitive no,

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no, and he would mind and
yeah, yeah, he wouldn't be

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able to also, you know,
freely and innocently, right, Uh,

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suspend disbelief as my mom does.
Right, it just comes naturally. No

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man could. There's a reason that
there's a reason we say wrestle Mamia,

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not wressell parent, because it's right. It's the mom guarantee, the mom

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reaction. In particular to the Cave
of Nature wrestling, Nick writes a possible

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link to get planes, trains,
and automobiles to qualify for Under the Cinema

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if the film was set in nineteen
eighty seven. Neil and Dell arrive in

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Chicago the night of Star K eighty
seven, which was held a mile from

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La Sale van Buren station at the
UIC Pavilion. Okay, there's there's there's

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that there there is that. There
is that I'm willing to investigate it.

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Have you ever read the planes?
Trains? I have. I have tried

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to find there's so ah there.
I've tried. I forget where I stumbled

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on this, but I stumbled on
one thing that said, and this would

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have been this would have done it, and this would have opened up a

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whole other window. But I did
stumble upon and I God, I can't

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remember where I found it, but
a some some claim that in the eighties

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John Candy was a fan, that
he was a fan of wrestling, and

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that occasionally he would do not on
television shows, but I think on house

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shows he would occasionally be a guest
ring announcer. Oh wow. But I

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found nothing to back that up,
So I don't know. We can dream.

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I can't imagine John Candy being a
fan. I can imagine John Candy

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being a fan for sure. Tom
Deary, thanks for the increased pledge.

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We appreciate it, seemed to you. Martin Fryer, Brian Sower, Steve

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Martin, Steve Martin noway, oh
no, no, let's it's hanging in

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a gallery somewhere. He doesn't take
it seriously. Jonathan Kershner, Welcome to

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the executive producer Tear. We appreciate
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that fucking cake from Lil Cookie.
That's right, Brennan, Lloyd, Brandon,

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Bradchee, Justin Garcia, McMahon,
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Anthony Bradley, John Bouchat, my
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big time, homie. Brian from
Wester who of course is a deep and

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long and abiding supporter, recently came
back to the table. Kevin Anderson,

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thank you very much for your pledge
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Dorian writes, I've lived in Saint
Louis all my life, and it's so

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surreal to know that my grandmother probably
had chances to buy Rumble tickets from her

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favorite department store, Famous Bar.
Remember we found the newspaper ads for that

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first house show, Royal rumbaugh Ough
how you could buy tickets to see The

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Rumble before it was a television special, having no idea that she could have

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gotten that nda action from the McMahon
on a historical night in Rostling history.

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Okay, Dorian, It's an interesting
place to take it, but the real

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nice you can take it, honestly. Huh. Famous Barr takes me back

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to that beautiful time. Macy's bought
them in the late nineties, I believe,

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because you know, we can't have
shit. That's right, That is

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right, it is. Come on, you know I have a lot of

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respect for eighties department stores, I
really do. Yes, yep, in

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seventies apartment stores, I mean that
was you know, you grow up thinking

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that your department store is all across
the country, and then you realize it

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isn't right. Nope, you realize
that it's really a regional thing at best.

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Paul the Saints fan, an incredible
supporter of the show. We want

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to thank you for your recent Patreon
pledge. I'm stretching the definition of the

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term recent here. I understand it's
got to be done. We don't leave

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debits. We don't leave debts on
service around here. Scott Arnold, thank

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you very much. We appreciate the
cake. Same to you, Craig Linda

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camp thanks for your increased pledge.
Alan Maguire always appreciate your support. Thanks

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very much, Wildavidian, thanks very
much for the cake. Eighty x three

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always a rock solid supporter and contributor
to what we do here. Lucky Lagucci

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is a mote tear member. Ladies
and gentlemen, Lucky Lagucci. Lucky Lagucci

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coming in really strong, hard,
definitive. Christopher Damar said, fuck it,

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I'm going up with the moat tier
YEP recently, and we appreciate that.

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James writes, I am a real
Canadian fight for the rights. Oh

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okay, this is these are lyrics. Can I get it? Yes?

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First I want to see what what
do you put this comment on? Let's

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see Royal Rommel nineteen eighty eight.
I am a real Canadian fight for the

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rights to back bacon. I am
a real Canadian fight for what's right.

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Be so polite when it comes crashing
down like a hockey fight. Brother,

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you gotta drink it down like a
can of sprite, purple sprite. If

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you hurt my friends, then you
hurt my pride. I got to lend

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a hand and maybe a moose hide. Conrad Benjamin, thank you very much

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for the pledge. You appreciate it. Buddy Rus Paxon, coming in strong

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with a meaty pledge. We love
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my friend. We appreciate it.
Probably Enchilada's rights. I can't get enough

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of lapsed Harley In general Harley talk
during World Class, Jack called him the

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living embodiment of an anchor tattoo.
He's always dragging. He's always dragging some

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He's always dragging someone out in the
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Yes, yes, he drags them
like he's bored with it. Yep,

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I'm gonna burn down a building.
Well, I can do that,

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Harley, is there need to be
a reason. That's exactly what he's say

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and you look at you likeet that. Don't ask me why I'm gonna do

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it because the damn thing tells me
to do it. Wait a minute,

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the damn thing also known as the
voices in your head. Perhaps my tattoo

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tells me to do it. Casey, thanks for the increased pledge. We

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appreciate it very much. Zach Golaher, Jonathan Pierce, Dylan Smith. How

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about the kid? How about Joseph
Nubauer pumping up that pledge? We love

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it, Paul writes Nit Pickery.
While I think your overall point about Men's

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Rumble winners almost never winning and the
main event is sound, I think it

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is worth noting days these days,
Becky Lynch and Bianca bell Air did both

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win the Rumble and the main event
of WrestleMania in recent years. Boss.

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Yes, no, it's true.
No, listen, I'm with you.

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But if you look at the Men's
Rumble in the last you know, the

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last god maybe like twenty thirty years
whatever it is now, it's not been

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that it's been. The majority is
otherwise. I think the first time it

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really really came to my attention was
the uh it was I think the Alberto

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del Rio win. Yeah, And
it was just kind of like that was

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the most artigious one by mine,
because because you think they're gonna fucking okay,

404
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:12.000
it's like, you know, I
didn't. I didn't buy the rumble

405
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.440
win at all. It wasn't something
that I was excited about. But okay,

406
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.799
we're here, so go with it. And no, and then it

407
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.599
just seemed like and he lost to
Edge who were tired the next night,

408
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.640
right, right, exactly? Can't
you know, I understand if you don't

409
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.519
want to go with Alberto, but
have the foresight to have him win the

410
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.079
rumble, because at that point,
all you're doing is hurting the rumble,

411
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:38.079
right, which is like one of
your key assets and should be something that

412
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.160
people can rely on to send a
signal. That's part of why people are

413
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.000
so pissed about Cody. I swear
to god, it's it's it's not so

414
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.960
much Cody as it is. They're
so mad that they still believe that the

415
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.880
winner of the rumble matters, right, and when they realize that that can

416
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.240
just as easily that that's not any
more sac or saying than anything else.

417
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:59.359
They tell themselves as a rule of
thumb about wrestling that WW can do whatever

418
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.480
the fuck they want want and you
will continue to page exactly. I agree.

419
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:04.960
I agree with that that that's really
what it is. I don't think

420
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.039
people would have its problems as part
of it. I think I think people

421
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.319
would be fine, would be more
or less fine with it if fucking rock

422
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:17.480
was in the rumbland one. That's
right, if they had their fucking head

423
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:19.480
on straight ahead of time in terms
of like, if we know we're going

424
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:25.799
rock Roman, what is the point
and making people you get it? Getting

425
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:30.960
excited about Cody. It's so stupid, right, but we'll see, uh

426
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.559
the geek critique. Thank you for
increasing your pledge, my friend. We

427
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.799
appreciate your support very much. Tim
Lenares, thanks very much for upping your

428
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:42.240
pledge, saying to you Richie Smiley
and Andreda balas Sobrenominium, which is tough.

429
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.200
I tried my best there. We
appreciate the support. Mark Henry,

430
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.079
sure it's not that Mark Henry.
Could might be I never know, couldn't

431
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.519
be. Paul p thanks for the
increased pledge. Dylan McIntyre, We love

432
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.799
it. Welcome to the You think
you think people, you think anybody calls

433
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:03.519
them backstage Mark Hank. I think
the chances there And I never say this

434
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:10.680
about Mark Henry slim to none.
I would call him Mark Hank. I

435
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:15.240
feel bad for Chris because he commented
under our coverage of Last Action Hero under

436
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.720
the Cinema, Yes, yes,
back last Summer, which I didn't care

437
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.519
for at all. He wrote,
I must admit it hurt to hear Jack

438
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.599
shit on a movie that I'm wah. Yeah, But if TLF has taught

439
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.599
me anything, it's that life is
pain, that's right. Yeah, I

440
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:33.400
mean, I'm sorry, I can't
it's you know, honestly, I feel

441
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.400
like the only reason why I enjoy
it is because because I saw it as

442
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.119
a kid, and I saw it
when it was in theaters and I and

443
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.240
I enjoyed it, but you know, and so it has a nostalgia flavor

444
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.720
for me. But it's not a
great movie at all. Yeah. Yeah,

445
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.839
that's that's totally sensible. I mean, we talk all the time in

446
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.400
terms of full disclosure when we look
at old shows on laps fan mad.

447
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.000
Yeah. Yeah, that that's a
huge that that is of course, a

448
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:03.279
part that you cannot disassociate from how
you feel about old matches, old wrestlers,

449
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.119
old shows. Of course, that's
the case. You can you can

450
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.000
be diligent and studious about saying,
Okay, what are the composite reasons for

451
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.640
why this was great? And let's
not be so lazy as to say that

452
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:17.359
in every single case ninety eight percent
of it is nostalgia, because if you

453
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:21.279
have a discerning eye, it's probably
ten percent nostalgia. And that's not enough

454
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.160
of an advantage to say that that's
the only reason I think this is better.

455
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.799
No, I think this is better
for mostly reasons that have nothing to

456
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:32.200
do with what age I am.
I found myself after the Lapsed Funk being

457
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:37.640
incredibly nostalgic for the pace, the
tone, and the style of nineteen seventies

458
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.039
wrestling. I didn knew I wasn't
alive in the seventies, So how do

459
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.960
you account for that? I mean, it's the same thing I felt with

460
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.480
the von Erics, like all that
world class stuff. I was like,

461
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.279
right, it's because it was better. That's why we feel the way we

462
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:53.480
do about it. Yeah, now, because we lived it, but because

463
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.480
in an honest Frank assessment. You
know, the bigger bias is being The

464
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:02.799
bigger bias isn't pstalgia. The bigger
bias is anti nostalgia. Right, That's

465
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:07.799
the more corrosive force. That's the
thing that makes people more dishonest, is

466
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:15.359
just constantly striving to insulate themselves from
being accused of liking something simply because it

467
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:22.160
took place during their childhood. Yes, the right, the the the absolute

468
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:30.960
not people tie themselves up into avoid
being accused of having those rose colored glasses

469
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:37.880
on is doubly absurd compared to people
citing their childhood as a reason they love

470
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.079
something. You know, if you're
if you're worth a shit, you can

471
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:44.519
explain why it was great, and
you're yeah, maybe you're making the case

472
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.960
that the way entertainment was conceived,
thought of, and produced in your time

473
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.720
was superior to the way it's thought
of, conceived, and produced today.

474
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.759
And come on, when it comes
to like the general diet of entertainment that's

475
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.319
out there, you're going to argue
that. I mean, I understand that

476
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:01.279
prestige TV streaming ten episodes a season, it's made on the level of cinema,

477
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.920
And yes, television blows a blow
a minute for a minute, is

478
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.519
better if we even consider it television, because they have so many fucking advantages

479
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:12.880
with swears and yeah, you know, hardly any ads if you subscribe to

480
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.079
a high enough to year and all
that shit that it's really ridiculous to almost

481
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:16.880
say that, like a TV is
better than it was. Then it's a

482
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:22.400
yeah, well, they had to
actually make a product that that appealed to

483
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:23.720
people and sold ads back then,
I was gonna say, right, like,

484
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:28.400
the difference was is that is that
you know, you're not you know,

485
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.039
you're not asking for subscriptions. You
know, you're not asking for people

486
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:35.480
to fucking pay to watch your shit
like you actually had to. That wasn't

487
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.000
even the thing. Now, people
wouldn't have done it back then. It

488
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.920
was like it had to have a
beat on the people, you know.

489
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:44.920
And right, and we're not wants
to complain because a show like this could

490
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.839
never have thrived in the time period
we yearn for. It's too hyper niche,

491
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.519
you know, right, So thank
god that there's a way to you

492
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:57.119
know, just to demonstrate value by
broadcasting obsessively to a niche like this.

493
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.039
We love that fact. It does
not change, however, the fact that

494
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:05.880
show for show production for production,
dollar for dollars spent. Entertainment produce way

495
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:09.039
better stuff twenty years ago than it
does today. There's still great stuff,

496
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:15.159
but I'm talking about the barriers to
entry. Used to matter. There,

497
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.920
used to actually be people that decided
this is worth making and this isn't It

498
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.360
wasn't all just a big fucking well, I'll just throw it up there.

499
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.119
Because content hours, Thank god,
that era is coming to an end.

500
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:29.679
That was a nauseating time, wasn't
it. Yes, streaming services competing with

501
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.320
each other because we have fourteen thousand
hours and they only have ten thousand.

502
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.039
Like you're ever going to watch more
than one hundred hours before you're in the

503
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:40.079
fucking grave, I know, Like
as if you know, think of a

504
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.960
millions of different things you're not gonna
watch before you die, right, It's

505
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:46.960
like this is a problem that there's
that many hours. That's not a good

506
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.039
thing. I mean there is some
component if if it's like a hyper narrow

507
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.599
casted thing to a devoted fan base
that yeah, having every show ever is

508
00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:00.920
awesome conceptually. Having every sl available
is awesome conceptually. And I'm not saying

509
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.760
people don't go back and watch them. It's it's that is, that is

510
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.639
a value, that there's a there
is money that that's worth. But that

511
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:15.360
is not a proposition to me,
to the consumer. That's not like this

512
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.840
is what you're getting if you buy
it. That's almost always like a fringe

513
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.880
benefit. I'll even say that about
the network. You know, obviously it

514
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.280
is. I mean, considering how
many people watch the archive stuff. I

515
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.280
mean, they can't people trip over
themselves to to say that, you know,

516
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.119
no one watches the old stuff because
they're to watch the old stuff because

517
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.239
right, they're very favorably with the
current stuff, right or vice versas so.

518
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.840
Joseph Goodbert, thank you very much
for bumping up the pledge. We

519
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:44.000
love it and we appreciate the support. Logan Love Thanks very much, Daniel,

520
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.320
we appreciate the cake. General Smedley
butt Sex goddamn right. Hopefully he

521
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.920
just pledged to get us to say
that, consider it. You think they'll

522
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:55.199
you'll think they'll you think they'll make
uh, you think they'll make Cody dresses

523
00:35:55.239 --> 00:36:00.320
Stardust to wrestle Inia. This fucking
hell. There's no way he gets through

524
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.199
the rest of his WWE career without
having to put that on one more time,

525
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.719
even if it's just for like a
they'll tell themselves it's just for like

526
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:07.679
a little nostalgia, a posography,
a Halloween, a Halloween thing. Oh

527
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.159
god, yeah, yeah, like
a Halloween episode. Well, that's the

528
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.000
whole reason they brought him back is
to eventually make him do that. Veterans,

529
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.679
right, listen, listen, listen. All right, here's the Deal's

530
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:23.400
boss wants to deal. Well,
we know, we know, we know

531
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:28.320
what Vince nick Mann said, we
know what laps Vince said about about Cody.

532
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:35.239
But let's not forget too that Cody
brought a sledge hammer to the throne.

533
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:39.000
Oh all right, And and I'm
sorry, but I don't think and

534
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:44.239
try to turn himself and Brandy in
contriplation stuff. Hated them so much they

535
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.119
try to become them, and that
I don't. I don't think Triple H

536
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:51.400
forgets, Absolutely not. There's no
way he's Triple H if he forgets stuff

537
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:58.360
like that. He is the most
like grudge harboring guy like you've ever heard

538
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.559
of. Yes, absolutely, his
face, his bald head is glasses.

539
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:06.599
His like that the Tony uses in
press conferences. Can you like think about

540
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:12.039
it? Think about him like hearing
an annoying idea in like a conference room,

541
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.599
all right, and he's looking down
at papers, and he looks up

542
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:20.880
eyes over the glasses, just with
the complete oh, you feel like you

543
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.400
want to die in your seat,
Yes, exactly, makes you feel like

544
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:28.239
you're two feet tall. But he
doesn't say anything. He just says it

545
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.599
with his face. Yep. And
then when you leave the room, he

546
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:32.480
talk shit, that's the power of
the game. And when the light's on,

547
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.400
he tends his fingers on the table
like he's I guess you could say

548
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.559
that's the way the game is played. You can hear the jangle of the

549
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:45.400
four thousand bracelets he wears on the
tabletop. I mean, I hope folks

550
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.480
realize by now that most of it, in terms of business, most of

551
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.079
it is the sound that your cufflinks
make when it hits the top of the

552
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.159
tabletop, the glass tabletop. Yes, And the way you move your hands

553
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.960
and sweep something away, or the
bullshit where you like move your coffee cup

554
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.639
one hundred times while you're talking,
or the way you like or the way

555
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.440
you're you know, when you stroke
your beard the yea, the sound it

556
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.599
makes people who have glasses just so
they can take them off when they make

557
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:15.880
a comment. Yeah, please stop
with all this performative nonsense. I'm so

558
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:21.119
glad we're on audio only for that
reason. You know we can't exactly I'm

559
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:25.239
out here to fucking dance for people, labs. Veteran, thanks for your

560
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.360
increase in pledge. We appreciate it. Pal Willie Thompson, your goddamn right.

561
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:30.800
Where's that cake? Myer Mania?
What a great member of the solar

562
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.880
system. He is putting his money
where his mouth is. Luke Polly writes.

563
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.719
My mother in law walks into the
kitchen as the lapsed woman in the

564
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:43.280
front row screams. This is from
Rumble eighty eight. Remember we show the

565
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:49.880
megaphone m H as the front row
woman screams, Ricky, I'm putting a

566
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:58.480
dildo into my wet pussy Ricky.
Yeah. I consider myself in the business

567
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:02.159
of collecting moments where leaf is on
the loud speaker and yes, somebody who

568
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:06.920
isn't hip to the scene, those
are my moments. Okay, yes,

569
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:15.760
drive throughs in that moment fucking the
world rocked. Thank you, that's exactly

570
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.440
right. Okay, Let's see what
else we have here in that in that

571
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.519
good old male bag. Morgan Brown, thank you very much for the cake.

572
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.639
Appreciate it. Matthew McIntyre, once
again, Thank you, Damon Torres,

573
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.280
Omar abdel Satar, thank you so
much. Cyrus the virus. I'm

574
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:35.480
sure that's not him. Thanks very
much for the cake. Hardway Butt Juice

575
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:40.239
brother remembers calling TKR Cable to see
if they were going to show the bunk

576
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.119
House Stampede, and the lady on
the phone laughed at me and said no

577
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:53.159
and hung up right. Good for
good for her. Awesome, Damian Thorn,

578
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:59.639
Ryan Morris, thank you so much, Alex writes, or Ali writes

579
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.239
Boss. Out of the following lapsed
characters, Hogan, Macho, Vince,

580
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:07.079
Dusty Jesse. Tell the Solar System
which voice gives you the most elation when

581
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:14.480
you have them say the word fuck? Ah, Hogan, Vince, dust

582
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:21.199
Jesse. I think it's Savage.
I think Savage is the one that pops

583
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:28.719
me the most, but just because
because because you know, I think it's

584
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:32.519
because there's there's so much emotion in
his voice as it is, you know,

585
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.559
the coming out that you really don't
need, you don't need fuck,

586
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.440
And so when it happens, it's
just like it's like, well, wait,

587
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:46.440
like put whose ship like you don't
need it exactly right, you don't

588
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:52.280
need it, and so when it
happens in right exactly I love that.

589
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.599
Like the first time you said big
fucking beef, doing the same, Jim,

590
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:02.840
it's a T shirt. That's how
good that. Gotta have spice,

591
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:08.360
gotta have this big fucking beef,
this idea that just stopped the commercial shoot

592
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:15.519
Cat, you know, because he
can't not say fuck. I think he

593
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:25.360
said I got my taking my head
or something. So so oh my god,

594
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.119
Cold Stone Steve Austin honed right in
on something that I totally agree with.

595
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.119
That Under the Cinemat episode ninety nine
on The Wrestler the two thousand and

596
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.239
eight Mickey Rourke picture one of the
best, he writes new UTC masterpiece,

597
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:44.000
maybe the best ever, Jack tossing
out ladies and gentlemen left and right as

598
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:49.400
is only approachriate absolutely Mickey Warick saying
about the ending, I hope he dies.

599
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.480
It's the you know what's funny,
you know what's interesting. I don't

600
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.599
think there's been one since that actually
ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, I don't

601
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:58.440
think I don't. Yeah, I
don't force it. No, And that's

602
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:04.239
what I love about it. I
love that that that it it truly it

603
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.280
truly I want to keep you hunting
for those money flights. Yep, yep,

604
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.599
so that maybe. I mean it's
all and it's all a thing like

605
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:15.559
I sit there and I and I
say to myself, I wonder I I

606
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.960
It's like I don't think about it
until it happens. Yes, and then

607
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.159
when it happens, I'm like,
oh shit, this this is going to

608
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:27.920
be it. This is going to
be it. Yeah. I mean that's

609
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.800
that's a huge motivating factor for me. When I research episodes. It's like,

610
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.159
is this going to pop the boss? And I don't mean just make

611
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.039
you laugh. I mean it's going
to be a moment like I'm presenting my

612
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.760
findings to you. It goes back
to reading the observer, Yes exactly.

613
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:45.559
It goes back to dropping information on
you that that you just didn't know about.

614
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.760
Yep. That's the joy of that. Yeah, And the fans and

615
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.320
the listeners get to share on that. But that's really why we're doing it.

616
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.480
Yeah, that's it. That's all
it's always been, right exactly.

617
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.760
Okay, new UTC masterpiece, maybe
the best ever. Jack tossing out ladies

618
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:01.639
and him and left and right,
Mickey Work saying about the ending, I

619
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:06.320
hope he dies. It's the only
thing for him. Yes, about the

620
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:10.079
about the Randy the Ram character,
Jack saying he would say cunt to James

621
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:20.360
Lipton's face JP, JP lying that
he loves E. C W and t

622
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:29.199
NA and his cameo requests you just
fut it. No, I heard it.

623
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:34.079
I didn't. I didn't have time
times and not to say it's never

624
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.920
happened. No, no, oh
my god. Honestly, you know,

625
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:45.320
big man, I say that.
I say that as much again to to

626
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.159
get it, to get a pop
out of you and listeners. Honest to

627
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.199
god, that's always what it is
like. I don't I say it like

628
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.039
partially to like kiss ass, but
mostly it's like I want people to hear

629
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:58.599
me say this. If you didn't
say that, they'd still probably give you

630
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:02.159
the same cameo, right right.
Ernest Miller saying Rickie Mickey warr he's so

631
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:06.159
different than me. Asking fucking Kevin
Nash what his favorite classic film was like

632
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:10.000
that was it was only to fucking
have him go into that ship. Yeah,

633
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:14.679
and just fucking yeah. Do you
think I really wanted to know what

634
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:22.119
Kevin Sullivan's snow shoveling routine was when
we asked him at startcast, Oh so

635
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.800
fucking great. Do you think I
really wanted to know what hul Cochin has

636
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.719
for breakfast? When we asked Brian
fucking Knobs to answer the question, we

637
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:30.920
better come, we better come to
Philly with some clean fifty dollars bills,

638
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:36.119
any questions to answer? That's exactly
exactly Selim heard back from Warlord. Have

639
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:39.280
we gonna fucking shoot up to shoot
that cash out? Fucking like a like

640
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:44.440
a goddamn card dispenser. Next the
next time in my move, I thought

641
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:46.440
about this because if you if you
follow us on Patreon, last time we

642
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.519
were on the ground to wrestle me
and you you know, we do live

643
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.719
journaling for patrons only audio journalist as
we you know, take in the environs

644
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.239
of the Carney Show coming to town. And so we were at the Wrestlicon

645
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.880
Hotel in La and Barbarian and Warlord
were there with their manager Guy, and

646
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.840
I wanted to ask Warlord about putting
his ear up to the courtroom door in

647
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.679
the Vince trial and other things I'm
sure you can't wait to talking about MM

648
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:12.840
and they asked us forty questions before
we can ask them one, and then

649
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.320
they have to write our number down. Look back in touch with this later

650
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:20.159
because they're so busy sitting there twiddling
their fucking fucking sitting there fucking jerking off

651
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.239
under the table. That was before
we rentedto Brian Knobbs, where I realized

652
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.840
here's the move. You say,
hey, guys, can I pay you

653
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:30.199
two hundred dollars to do a five
minute interview? And they'll say no,

654
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.599
and then you walk away and then
they'll wait a minute. Yeah, that's

655
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.840
exactly. That's just the counter with
a number. They'll go not forget it,

656
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:39.280
and then they'll that's it worked with
Brian, it works with all of

657
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.960
them. They're just you know,
they just want to look. Look.

658
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.360
All they want to do is make
sure that they don't have to pay for

659
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:49.159
their lunch. Yeah, they've told
themselves their stars, so they've told themselves

660
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.199
their time as much. Yeah,
and their time is not there is no

661
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.519
longer money, but we're willing to
humor them. Yes, if their time

662
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.519
was money, they would not be
at this convention, right, Ernest Miller

663
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:07.079
saying Mickey Warwick looked like an old
ass DDP that's funny, discussing bagels with

664
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:14.119
the Aronofskys and getting salmon from the
locksmith Terry Gross saying wrestling is the theater

665
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:20.760
of cruelty and suffering. When talking
about the sex scene in Rahway, Jack

666
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:29.360
said he was doing her the Rahway
too many great moments to mention that it

667
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.360
was delightful listening to the live call
of Mickey slinging egg salad as reference to

668
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:40.639
God's nothing better than him, fucking
it's the ultimate scene, the ultimate scene,

669
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:50.519
slinging, slinging. It does,
but it's fucking just Hey, don

670
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.639
what are you? What are you
beautiful? What are you? What do

671
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:57.519
you have for me? And Nash
nailed it in that cameo, like you

672
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.159
can't get away with iron Claw because
the wrestler got made. So you can't

673
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:04.599
tell me, you know what I
mean, that you have to make a

674
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.880
shit wrestling, no shit wrestling movie. That's unfair. You can't tell me

675
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.480
that I can that because I'm such
a hardcore wrestling fan that I can't enjoy

676
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.280
a wrestling movie that I can't ever
be satisfied. You can't tell me that

677
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.360
because the wrestler got made, and
I would watch that movie four hundred thousand

678
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.039
fucking times. It's a really good
movie, you know, like it's it's

679
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:29.360
a really really good movie. It
deserved all the all the Academy Award nominations

680
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.519
it got. But you know,
you look at the story of Von Erics

681
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:36.199
and you think that that deserves an
Academy Award nomination before you even make the

682
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:40.639
fucking movie. I mean, in
reality, it does. It does in

683
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.320
theory, but it's not an execution, not not this not this version.

684
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.440
But like the only reason you would
think that that it isn't worthy is because

685
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:53.039
you know, the Von Eric's story
is such bullshit. It's a bad movie.

686
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:57.440
It's a bad movie. More time, I was kind of I was

687
00:47:57.519 --> 00:47:59.760
light on it. Right afterwards,
I didn't I wasn't impressed, but I

688
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:00.960
was. The more time passes,
I'm just like, yeah, that was

689
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.519
nothing. Man. No one can
no one can look back and be like,

690
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.800
yeah, man, like I know, Adele said, zach Efron did

691
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.119
a good job, but that's about
the extent of it, especially because like

692
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:14.639
the fucking I mean, look how
quickly it died. I mean, there

693
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:19.079
was so much there was so much
hype going on. They were trying so

694
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.599
hard, and it died a fucking
miserable death. It did. It did

695
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.199
well second week. Actually, it
did way better a second week than you

696
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:29.159
had any Yeah, I mean well, I mean I'm talking about like in

697
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:34.440
terms of recognition and totally and and
and you know, you know, there's

698
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.079
nobody, you know, the moment
it came out, people stopped talking about

699
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.199
it. Maybe did well box office
wise, but nobody was talking about it,

700
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.960
and it was it was only a
matter of time. It's amazing,

701
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:47.320
It's amazing, clearly, you know, when it comes down to the finderic

702
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.280
movie is coming gone, we're on
the other side of it being made so

703
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.559
bizarre. It's it is bizarre.
It is bizarre. And you know again

704
00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:00.360
it's it's a it's a damn shame. Like I meant, and I was

705
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.920
selling. I was selfish, I
really I just wanted I wanted Holt to

706
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.599
get nominated, just to oh,
yeah, hear him say particular podcast of

707
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:14.199
anybody in the movie. He did, he did, absolutely he did.

708
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:17.800
But yeah, what I mean,
I guess it did well. I'm looking

709
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:21.480
at the box office right now.
We don't know, though, I'll never

710
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:30.840
know because you never really know in
terms of because the budgets that they put

711
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:35.239
out there. We don't know if
it's the actual budget or if it's or

712
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:42.000
if it's you know, just their
production budget and not talking about their marketing

713
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.280
budget, which usually doubles the budget. Whatever it is. I see,

714
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:50.199
Yeah, I mean, I just
remember hearing the box office returns. I

715
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:53.119
remember Meltzer looking at him and it
was like it actually went up week two,

716
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:57.760
which movies never do. Yeah,
so there was a positive buzz.

717
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.800
It was that holiday thing too.
The first week two was like Christmas week,

718
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.239
and I know that's a good movie
going week in theory, but the

719
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.400
week after Christmas, to me,
is is also just as likely to be

720
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:13.079
shore of course. Yeah, I
mean that whole that whole holiday week is

721
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:17.880
is uh, the week between Christmas
and New Year's is always good box office.

722
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:21.320
People are going to go to the
movies, terrific. You know,

723
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:22.639
it's a chance, it's a chance
for people to go. I mean,

724
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.840
I used I used to love that. There were there were a couple of

725
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:29.480
friends that I had like that would
be a thing, like it was a

726
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:30.840
time to kind of get caught up
on movies that we may have missed.

727
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:35.199
I love it so much the end
there, Oh, it makes me so

728
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:37.159
happy. I was so glad we
could get that done before Christmas to get

729
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:38.960
a lot. Yeah, me too. That that was fun. That was

730
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:45.079
a lot of fun and cold Stone
Steve Austin continues, I don't know if

731
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.079
she did as much training and on
screen wrestling as Mickey work, but Florence

732
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.480
Pugh played page and fighting with my
family. Would she be eligible? If

733
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.360
so, you could do a feature
Barbenheimer run with her in Oppenheimer and Johnson

734
00:50:55.480 --> 00:51:00.559
and Barbie seen. It was also
the new animated team. That's true,

735
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:02.000
that's true. Now we got a
lot of John Johnson is doing a lot

736
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:06.840
of stuff. One of these days. I do want to see Actually I

737
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:13.440
do, Oh god, I do. I liked uh wrestling, wrestling with

738
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.559
my family, even my family.
Whatever the fun was. That was pretty

739
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.119
good. Actually, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's you know,

740
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.599
I wanna I'm waiting for a good
time to do it. It's there,

741
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.920
of course and qualifies. Gee yeah, I mean it's one of the

742
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.559
easiest ones. Stephen Dame, thanks
very much for the pledge. We appreciate

743
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:36.480
the support. Man Adam writes TLF
in tough times. This message is a

744
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:38.559
sincere thank you to TLF and the
lap solar system, for always being there

745
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:42.960
for those of us in need,
each laugh, each amazing deep dive,

746
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.039
the hours of research from both co
chairs, from cucks to carnies to gluttonous

747
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:51.119
grapplers and everything in between. I've
said it before, I still don't know

748
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.400
how the fuck you do what you
do in in Oh Man, You're you're

749
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:58.239
coming strong though, You're you're blowing
my mind on cinemata every week. If

750
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.960
you folks, I'm telling you,
boss, he's learned well, Grasshopper,

751
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:06.519
I can't. Yeah, I mean, it's just like I don't. I

752
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.639
just don't understand how the fuck you
put it all together in that amount of

753
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:15.360
time because I'm always I'm there.
You know, I certainly do have a

754
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.320
pattern of sorts. But you know
there's sometimes I mean, I guess here's

755
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.920
what it is. I don't know
how you do it and have you know

756
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:23.599
a day job life. Yeah,
that's what it is. Really well,

757
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:25.599
you know what it is. It's
like when I think about it, because

758
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.960
people ask me this often, it's
like, it's the reason I do the

759
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:35.119
podcast is because I have enough already
in my instincts, because I knew the

760
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.039
subject so well to begin with that
I don't have to ramp. Like if

761
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:39.519
I taught somebody how to do what
I do, they would never be able

762
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:43.800
to do it in a short period
of time because their mind wouldn't be as

763
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:45.679
full of the shortcuts to get to
the stuff. Yep. You know,

764
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:51.199
I was like absorbing all of the
kind of stuff that we touch on already

765
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:52.880
before we even had a podcast,
just so like, you know, who

766
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:58.360
said what when, where's the shoot
interview, where's the book? Where's the

767
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.880
right? Which newspaper is most likely
to have covered it? What? You

768
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.679
know? What documentaries WW come out
with? When did the Observer cover this?

769
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.840
Like these little things, And it's
like, can't discount the head start

770
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:15.159
that gives you when you can sit
there without looking up a single thing and

771
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.000
say this is almost definitely where it
is. You know, so many of

772
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:21.679
the wrestling books are chronological, you
know, which helps so much. Yeah,

773
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:23.519
totally, if you talked about it, it's probably especially this sort of

774
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:29.400
like this absolute explosion of wrestling books
in the past like twenty years or fifteen,

775
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.239
ten years really has been such a
wonderful thing because they just fucking lay

776
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:37.039
out the chronology of their whole life
and career, and it's so easy to

777
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:37.920
sort of jump in and be like, all right, if you said anything,

778
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.880
it's going to be here, and
wrestlers repeat themselves over and over again.

779
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.000
So it's not like, oh man, he did thirty interviews, there's

780
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.719
thirty versions of the story. No, there's probably just two, right if

781
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:54.519
only if that? Yeah? So
whatever? Truly okay, from Cux to

782
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:59.159
Carnies to Gluttonous Grapplers and everything in
between. Truly the best podcast around,

783
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.800
like many others, and like only
half and like one hefty toe headed erstwhile

784
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:07.079
great booker and shit booker. I've
fallen on hard times. Life has gone

785
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:09.440
full heel on me like Larry on
Bruno, like a triple H on HBK

786
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:13.800
and twenty oh two, like the
Horseman on Sting forty five thousand times.

787
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.119
First, I lost the love of
my life. I'm sorry, but you

788
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:22.079
know I don't wonder up again.
But the said Larry on Bruno. You

789
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:24.440
know, I know, I know
the reference, but I immediately thought of

790
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:29.280
Larry David on Bruno. That was
the first thing you know on mine.

791
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.840
Oh man, that's he's on the
mind. Man. They did a wonderful

792
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:37.679
time getting people dialed in. Did
you watch it? No yet. I'm

793
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:43.079
actually I'm actually watching. Uh.
I want to wait actually till they're all

794
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.960
out. Okay, So I've been
watching. I've been watching everything, like

795
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:52.800
all old episodes, and so I'm
like, seas he's the last one.

796
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:57.000
Yeah, he's the last one.
Man, It's uh. I've been watching

797
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:00.559
season by season, and so by
the time I get to the end of

798
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:05.159
season eleven, all of them will
be out and I'll be able to just

799
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:08.360
plow through them. Yeah, and
savor it and not you know, I

800
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:15.440
want to Seinfeld Humor finally disappearing.
Yeah, yep, yep. So yes,

801
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:17.360
first, I lost the love of
my life. I'm sorry to hear

802
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:21.400
that, man. Yes, anyways, I lost my last family member,

803
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:24.199
and just today my oh fuck did
the Seattle screw job and kicked me out.

804
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:28.760
But I remain with TLF in my
ears and just the right amount of

805
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:30.239
bitterness in my heart. I know
I will bounce back, much like Rickey

806
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:36.239
Steamboat whenever a sundowing George Scott is
within fifty miles. This goes out to

807
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:38.760
all the lovers of the nine decade
old podcast and it's loving ode to fictional

808
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:42.559
flipping and flopping. It will get
better for all of us. Hang in

809
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.480
there. I'll be seeing you guys
down the road when things are better for

810
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:50.079
us all and looking forward to another
decade of debauched food related wrestling shenanigans.

811
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:53.760
Adam PS. If you're reading this
and you're rich, good for you,

812
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:58.360
he says, support the cast,
love you, Adam, Good luck,

813
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.159
pal. That was awesome, Ryan
James, thanks for the meaty and generous

814
00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:06.639
pledge he took up the cause.
R K. Thanks for increasing the amount

815
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.960
that comes our way, Ryan writes, YouTube butt fuckers had to pledge because

816
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:12.840
I'm no bitch, that's right.
And the fact I listening to you guys

817
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.559
for eight hours daily is that not
enough to justify throwing us some scratch?

818
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:20.800
I mean, what more do we
happen too? You know how many pitches

819
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:24.280
of yours do we have to scratch? People? People don't understand when I've

820
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:29.719
when I've said to them, you
know I've said that. How you know

821
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:32.760
when they ask about the podcast,
and you know, it goes from this

822
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.880
to this, and eventually it comes
down to you know, well, you

823
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:38.599
know, I do want to give
it a listen, and I'm always like,

824
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:43.119
well, you know you read it, be ready for it, like

825
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.880
it's it's it's it's long, like
we you know long episodes, Well how

826
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:55.039
long long? Uh? We average
about six hours in episode? What it's

827
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:58.440
like, yeah, you know,
and it's weird, like you know,

828
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:02.960
we're we're we're a unique breed because
you know, our listeners get angry if

829
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.400
it's less than four hours exactly.
I always say, the podcast is not

830
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.440
that long because we want it to
be. The podcast is that long because

831
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:15.840
we don't have a choice, right, because we stop when we're done.

832
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.320
That's what's beautiful about it. It
is what it is. And I ain't

833
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:22.719
listen. I'm not gonna fucking you
know, you don't want don't you edit

834
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:24.000
it? Like, because I don't
want to, right? What do you

835
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:27.159
mean edit it? I don't want
to fucking Are you kidding me? It's

836
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.119
funny. Is this like a production
here? Done? This is a like

837
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:35.440
you want me to go back and
edit? Listen, someone's going under someone's

838
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.679
gonna pay me, like on a
contractual basis if we're gonna be Yeah,

839
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:42.559
Like I understand if someone wants to
go back and edit a two hour podcast

840
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.960
down to like an hour ninety minutes, that boring. I decided that's boring.

841
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:49.320
Cut it but you want to,
like fucking you want me to cut

842
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:54.400
down a six hour show to ninety
minutes. The guts are gone, The

843
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:58.360
guts are gots are gone. And
you know, I don't know how we

844
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:02.199
got ten years under our belt to
prove this. Someone's super One person finds

845
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:07.760
boring is what someone else finds completely
indispensable. Yes, how do you score

846
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.360
goals? You take as many shots
as you can, right, And I'm

847
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:15.320
sorry that other podcasts don't have the
wherewithal or the ability to keep up with

848
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:19.519
that, or don't necessarily think it's
worthy. Good on them, you know,

849
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.039
you know what it comes down to. You know what it comes down

850
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.320
to. And and I get to
say, just because I don't you got

851
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:34.320
it hard. I I listen,
you know, because I listen to stuff

852
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.719
because when I'm looking, mainly it's
for cinemat. So when I'm looking for

853
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:43.079
stuff I look, I often look
to podcasts to see if so and so,

854
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.559
if they've talked about a movie.
But I but I but I've learned.

855
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:51.880
I learned within the first like six
months of doing cinemat that a podcast

856
00:58:51.880 --> 00:59:00.960
talking about a movie isn't giving me
shit because nine and nine hence out of

857
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:06.480
the time, it's just two people
talking about how they feel about the movie.

858
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.760
Yeah, which is nobody's actually done, which is fine, right,

859
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:15.079
But like, but I want to
know so limited, Yes, and I

860
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:19.679
want to know how it was built, how was put together? If we're

861
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.079
taking this much time, Like,
I don't understand, Like you have to.

862
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:27.199
You owe it to yourself to say
something definitive, don't you. I

863
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.199
mean that's to me, it's not
even worth hitting record unless you can bring

864
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:32.679
work to the table. Yeah,
maybe I'm just like weird about it.

865
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:37.519
I don't think I know, because
I mean I think we think of it

866
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:42.559
as it's it's it's more than that. I think I think there's there's truth

867
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.840
that that. That's what I want
to I want to uncover. I don't

868
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:51.119
want to just give my opinion.
I want to say, look, this

869
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:54.880
is what happened, and this is
fucking crazy, or this is amazing,

870
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:59.760
or look how brilliant this person is, or look how fucking crazy this person

871
00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:04.320
is, Look how dumb this person
was, Look how you know this is

872
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:08.719
why this person is is a legend
like that that's yeah, it's the passion

873
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:13.480
for the material. It's not us
being in love with our idea of ourselves.

874
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:15.599
Yeah, a lot of podcasts are
that way. It's kind of like,

875
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:20.400
you know, I'm interesting. It's
like, well, no, you

876
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:22.119
know, maybe what you have to
say about something is interesting, but the

877
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:27.280
something has to have some right rigor
to it. I mean, fortunately we

878
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.440
are interesting, so that works too. You got to talk this way,

879
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:34.119
folks. I don't know why people
don't get this like this, and no

880
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.639
one's going to give you your flowers
in life. Oh, you got to

881
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:39.440
give them to yourself. Self care. That's what we practice around Yeah,

882
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:46.400
self care right, and self tearing
too. When it comes to drilling a

883
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:52.400
new anus, Ryan says YouTube butt
fuckers had to pledge because I'm no bitch,

884
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:54.920
and the fact to listen to you
guys for eight hours daily. I

885
01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:59.280
work a factory job forty hour weeks. Yes, and the great thing is

886
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:00.800
I get left alone and get to
have one earpiece, and so that ear

887
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:06.039
spends every shift getting penetrated by your
two venue members. I have so many

888
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:08.199
stories of work life, like the
time my boss was yelling at me for

889
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:12.039
some shit I'd done wrong, and
I was smiling because I could hear was

890
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:19.079
JP doing the Ringmaster theme. God
to release at the mood that's great,

891
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.800
What a great story. I'm obsessed
with those. By the way, I'm

892
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:24.639
obsessed with stories. If people who
are listening to us when they should be

893
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:34.400
present, Oh man, it's a
deep cut. I forgot all about that

894
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.760
one or the time a girl from
work had to leave because of a serious

895
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:40.360
injury. But I had a smirk
on my face because you two were explaining

896
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:45.559
a story about w CW referee Mickey
j in a hotel room with a prostitute

897
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:50.039
with one leg on the bed,
pulling his brick while crying about his ex

898
01:01:50.079 --> 01:02:00.559
wife. Oh, I'll tell you, there's nothing gives me great enjoying the

899
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:07.519
idea of these fucking, fucking carnies
in a motel with a prostitute like it

900
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:14.239
just gives me absolute pleasure. Mickey
Jay didn't stand a chance that week,

901
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:20.039
not a chance. We were going
to have our way until no one could

902
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:25.239
think of him in any other way
besides how we say if you're it's like,

903
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:30.800
it's like what cousin Eddie says in
Christmas Vacation. He's gont been a

904
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:35.440
little bit at Mississippi leg Hound in
him. But between you and me,

905
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:40.800
it's just best to let him finish
gods right, so many more stories maybe

906
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:43.920
for another day. Keep up the
great work, gentlemen. You guys are

907
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:45.639
fucking awesome. Thanks Ryan. I
mean, I couldn't be more thrilled to

908
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:50.840
hear that and can't wait to hear
more dispatches from the front. Ben Wrights

909
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:53.400
just watched this movie for the first
time. Listening along, I think about

910
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:57.519
the wrestler. Oh, I think
Rock really portrays that sort of above it.

911
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.920
Let's just get the shit over with
air about some veterans well, with

912
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:04.400
the way he walks over matches,
talks over matches rather and comes down to

913
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.880
the ring, like how he just
slides in without playing to the crowd.

914
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.719
That is true. He does get
that little chip on the shoulder thing down

915
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:15.519
perfectly, Yes, Like he's a
sad, pathetic, sad sack and he

916
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:19.360
knows that, and he's he's just
as ready to wallow and self pity as

917
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.800
any broken down wrestler. That's why
guy in fucking two thousand and eight is

918
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:30.440
playing fucking Nintendo right, you know, right exactly, But he still gets

919
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.880
down that little bit of you know, cock of the walk body language where

920
01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:38.440
when he's among other wrestlers, he's
still he's still able to carry this idea

921
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:42.239
that he's worth a lot more than
you're paying him, and he knows it.

922
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:45.199
Yes, Tim l thanks very much
for the increased pledge. We appreciate

923
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.760
it. Looks like you were looking
for some cinemat content. Hope you enjoy

924
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:52.920
it. Neil writes on further to
the wrestler, he says, something I'm

925
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:57.480
thinking about is Piper spinning the wrestler
into an uplifting story about what people like

926
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.079
him give up for the fans.
To every normal person the movie, he

927
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.519
is a tragedy. But if you
are inside wrestling, you cannot confront the

928
01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:06.519
waste. Wasted lives, wasted families, wasted money, wasted bodies. It

929
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:15.199
had to have been for something right. He also writes, what makes Randy

930
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:16.599
such a unique character is you think
much less of him by the end of

931
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:20.039
the movie, ding ding ding ding
ding. Yes, Yes, that is

932
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:26.360
Darren Ronofsky's genius in this film,
in my opinion, is exactly that work

933
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:29.000
plays Him is very charming and gracious
in the beginning, but as the movie

934
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:30.760
goes on and as you see wrestling
be taken away from him, he seeks

935
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:35.199
a very one sided kind of adulation
from his daughter a prospective girlfriend, people

936
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:38.719
at work, et cetera. You
reach the conclusion at the end that this

937
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:43.800
is someone who isn't really interested in
reciprocating love in any meaningful way. It's

938
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.599
about what the world can give him, and all the doe eyed speeches and

939
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:53.719
meaningful gestures are just a means to
an end. Let's fucking go, Yes,

940
01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:58.400
let's fucking go. That's so true. That's it. That's it in

941
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:02.639
a fucking nutshell, that's the progress. That's the pro wrestler. They memorize

942
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:10.679
the forms and the mannerisms of somebody
that appears to have a deep humanity and

943
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:16.519
is worthy of your sympathy or empathy. But that's just one tool in their

944
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:24.000
toolbox. Pal yep, and until
cold cash is slapped into their palm,

945
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:28.239
nothing's real. Rich Molton, thank
you very much. We appreciate the pledge.

946
01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:32.480
Justin Hornicker, thanks for increasing the
amount of cake coming our way.

947
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:38.519
Our very good friend Gordon out in
Long Island has written to us in regards

948
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:43.800
to our rumble nine eighty eight slash
Bucking Stampede eighty eight January eighty eight.

949
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:48.400
Wars Arab shows that we did and
he's got some great perspective love. The

950
01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:53.880
January eighty eight shows got me reminiscing
about the good old days. I simply

951
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:58.840
remember the excitement around the Royal rumble
was off the charts, and the Hog

952
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:03.239
and Andre contract sign was headline news
among friends in my second great classroom.

953
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:09.679
Also, the timed battle royal concepts
seemed really intriguing to us, as we

954
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:15.280
immediately began replicating it with our ljns. Here's the funny part. I lived

955
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:19.800
just twenty minutes away from the Nassau
Coliseum and it was like my second home

956
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:25.280
for w shows. I saw at
least a dozen cards there across eighty six

957
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:30.239
and eighty seven. Now, the
NWA's bunk House Stampede was happening as stone's

958
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:36.760
throw away from my home, and
guess what what, I had no idea.

959
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:43.360
The NWA was like a distant relative
I'd heard of but never really knew.

960
01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:47.480
I was aware of guys like Dusty
Flair and the Road Warriors primarily for

961
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:54.039
magazines, but I'd occasionally see them
on TV. It just wasn't appointment viewing.

962
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:58.880
And somehow they failed to hit me
with any marketing of this event,

963
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.199
despite the fact that I was there. Target demographic I was a seven year

964
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:08.360
old kid obsessed with wrestling who lived
the Stones Throwers away from the coliseum.

965
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:13.519
Everything about the NBA was second rate. I'd tape Clash of the Champion shows

966
01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:16.880
and keep up with them peripherally,
but I didn't really watch regularly until the

967
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:21.920
early to mid nineties. Something I
found hilarious was when I later found out

968
01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:27.800
about the show. I thought that
the NWA was copying the WWE's bunk House

969
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:32.760
Battle Royal gimmick, well the other
way around, but I had seen it

970
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:43.440
at the coliseum previous Excuse me leading
someone who observed a live in person WWF

971
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:47.559
bunk House Battle Royal pre rumble leaping
Lanny in his dumbass suit of armor and

972
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:53.079
all that shit. Little did I
know that Vince was stealing an NWA gimmick

973
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.039
and basically making fun of that.
But not stealing is the wrong word.

974
01:07:56.119 --> 01:08:00.079
Lampooning would be more right, right
right at any rate ausome shows, I

975
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:06.960
particularly enjoyed laps, Bob Coddle,
Why did you say what? I particularly

976
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:14.519
enjoyed lapse? Bob Coddle promoting the
WWE's NBC show off the WA paper few.

977
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:19.840
He's confused, I don't know what, they'll give him just a hard

978
01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:24.960
time about that. Oh my god, I've forgot about that. Well,

979
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:30.159
Jim Tony WWF is on tonight,
and well, Jim, I'll tell you

980
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:35.920
on free TV the WWE is putting
on a royal rumble, way better competitors

981
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:40.560
than we have here on pay per
view. You just paid for. He

982
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:44.960
just paid for. But I suggest
you turn over to USA. Oh my

983
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:48.960
god, Bob, you know we're
not going to fire you, but can

984
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:54.800
you not do that anymore? Scott
Gallagher, thanks for the increased pledge.

985
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:58.760
Right, I can guarantee you right
now, Jim, I was not bought

986
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.880
out by Vince McMahon. Well,
thank god for that. I'm so glad

987
01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:05.800
you addressed it before i had to
ask you the uncomfortable question. With that,

988
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:12.520
onward onward, Bob Caddle, Yes
again, Ryan Old Cogan, honor

989
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:16.039
the giant, such a long time
supporter, and we appreciate the recent bump

990
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:19.239
up in confidence. I keep up
the great work, Ryan, Timothy Lee,

991
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:23.920
Danny d thank you very much for
your pledges to us on Patreon.

992
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.359
The money we'll go to good use. Jeff writes on The Wrestler Again,

993
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.960
Man under the cinemat you gotta find
this thing if you didn't listen to it.

994
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:32.159
Jesus, I finally finished this today
and want to say that this is

995
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:36.479
probably the best podcast ever made any
genre. Oh Jesus Christ, I don't

996
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:40.119
remember this email at all. It's
the perfect movie for the cast, and

997
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:43.760
JP did a wonderful job of research
and presenting everything that makes this a classic

998
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:45.119
movie. I don't know if Mickey
Orke is still doing okay or not,

999
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:47.600
but I hope he is, and
the way you presented his story is so

1000
01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:51.319
well done. Bravo, gentlemen here
worth every penny. Do you think it's

1001
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:58.399
going to end well for Mickey Rourke? Ultimately, this is a renaissance that's

1002
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:01.319
now like twenty years old. Almost. Yeah. I mean, I don't

1003
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:03.800
know if he's see I don't know
if it's bad. I mean, he

1004
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:11.199
certainly has had some good shit,
but in terms of I mean, I

1005
01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:13.640
don't know what his last movie was, for God's sake, but I think

1006
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.279
it was the the Sin City remake. Maybe that's a that's a while ago

1007
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:19.720
too. That is like the yeah, fact we don't know says a lot.

1008
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:24.039
Yeah, Like I mean, he's
done. I'm looking at him right

1009
01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:26.800
now and I mean, just he's
back to doing a bunch of shit that

1010
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:31.560
I've never heard of. Yeah,
you know, like, yeah, I

1011
01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:34.760
don't know. I mean, is
it going to go. I think he's

1012
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:38.279
fine. I don't know if it's
going to be like the tragic end that

1013
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:44.800
we may have we might have seen
earlier on. But in terms of like

1014
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.479
is he going to get back,
I mean, you know, I guess,

1015
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:51.000
yeah, I guess since the city
had deigned to kill for it is

1016
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:55.399
ten years old, that's the last
thing I remember him. But he's done

1017
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:58.680
a bunch I mean he works again. He works every year. I don't

1018
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:02.600
know how much money he's making.
Uh. Oh, he was in the

1019
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:08.800
Rowan Polanski movie for fox Sake the
Palace last year, and they get better,

1020
01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:11.720
you know. I so, dude, there's similar. There's so many

1021
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:16.000
movies out in these days. There
are so many fucking movies out And I

1022
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:19.840
think I've said this before. It's
it's it's it's one of the things that

1023
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:26.840
I always hope. I always think
I know the movies that are gonna be

1024
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.760
uh, that are gonna get that
where I'm gonna get screeners for the SAG

1025
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:34.880
Awards, Like I always think I
know the movies that are that I'm gonna

1026
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:41.079
get, and then I get none
of them, and it's a bunch of

1027
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:45.479
fucking movies that I've never even heard
of and could care less about. Wow,

1028
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:54.199
And it's so frustrating because that's that's
kind of the world. I mean,

1029
01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:58.760
talk about it used to be better. I mean, I'll say movies

1030
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:04.000
used to be better. Yeah,
I'm not saying that that that that movies

1031
01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:09.439
that that there aren't great movies.
Now there certainly are. But in terms

1032
01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:15.239
of like you you don't know about
the good ones, or you don't hear

1033
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:19.920
about movies or or or there are
so many movies that are being made that

1034
01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:27.399
it's like it just oversaturates the output
of it all, and it's like,

1035
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:34.199
I can't I used what I used
to love about. It's why I don't

1036
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:39.560
really give a shit about awards anymore. I used to love awards. Oh

1037
01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:42.680
my god, I used to write
these wonderful Yeah I remember, yes,

1038
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:45.800
who who will win? Who should
win? Great synopsies of all the films

1039
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:50.840
that were up for consideration. I
used to love being like because you I

1040
01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:57.000
would always have a movie to root
for, because like, the movies that

1041
01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:01.680
were being nominated were were like everyone
knew about them. And I'm not saying

1042
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:05.159
that these movies that aren't good that
that get that win and get nominated.

1043
01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:10.520
But what's frustrating is that more often
than not, it's movies that I don't

1044
01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:14.960
fucking ever even hear about. And
that's the shame too, in that these

1045
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:19.720
great movies are being ignored. But
I'm also like, you know, that's

1046
01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:23.960
what the Independent Spirit Awards are about, you know, fucking let them have

1047
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:26.840
that, don't give them yeah something
he said for that, you know,

1048
01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:30.680
Like, I don't think it necessarily
makes sense that movies on an independent budget

1049
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:38.000
should compete with big studio movies for
awards. I've always been against that.

1050
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:43.159
I've always I've always been against against
network shows. Yeah, seriously, it's

1051
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:45.640
true, Like they should have their
own sense of Emmys, and for god's

1052
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:51.920
sake, they got their fucking goddamn
idiotic local Emmy Awards for every other fucking

1053
01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:56.600
exactly mom and pop. Like,
you know, you should have your your

1054
01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:01.520
your your h whatever you call it, what premium cable Emmys and then your

1055
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:04.720
fucking bar let's do it weight classes, you know, based on a budget.

1056
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:10.199
Yeah, right, Best movie five
hundred thousand or less best movie.

1057
01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:12.760
You know what I mean, Yep, let's do it. I'm not I'm

1058
01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:15.960
not afraid of it. Why are
you afraid of it? I'm by all

1059
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:21.359
that. I don't mean you part
for it. Fucking fuck Christ then people

1060
01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:26.079
would then people would ca fave their
budgets, right of course, of course,

1061
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.600
want to watch play out? Oh
my god. Speaking of a Bob

1062
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:31.880
Coddle, Bez makes a point we
always failed in that reference when Bob Caddle

1063
01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:35.319
comes up, which is important.
It should be noted that Bob Caddle was

1064
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:40.159
very close with one of the most
racist politicians new US history, Jesse Helms.

1065
01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:43.439
Oh yes, Coddle was Helms's legs
lave assistant and worked on his nineteen

1066
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:45.840
seventy two Senate campaign. I don't
think it's far fetched to suggest that old

1067
01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:50.479
Bob is likely a bigoted motherfucker.
Oh I'm sure he is. You kidding

1068
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:56.920
me? Behind that innocent uh oh
you know visage that that that good old

1069
01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:00.640
papa face, you know. Can
you imagine him like going in a rage

1070
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:03.479
like order, if like the fire
hoses to be used to get orders,

1071
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:09.039
being comfortable with it, thinking that
we have to crack down, like if

1072
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:12.479
he if he had a daughter.
You know, oh she had like he

1073
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:16.319
style, Yeah, which she had
like a fucking you know, a boyfriend

1074
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:18.439
or a girlfriend of color. I
mean god, we can imagine if you

1075
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:23.239
had a girlfriend a girlfriend, let
alone a girlfriend of color. Fuck.

1076
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:31.600
Someone tells Grandpa Coddle that his granddaughter's
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1077
01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:38.439
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1078
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1079
01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:45.760
We love it. Adam B.
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1080
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:47.439
in once twice. As a matter
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1081
01:15:47.479 --> 01:15:53.199
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1082
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1083
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1084
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:01.039
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1085
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1086
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Thank you. Andy Yellinich, longtime
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1087
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We love to see this sustained support. It's such a satisfying counterpoint to anybody

1088
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:20.439
whoever suggests that podcasts are not worth
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1089
01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:26.239
whole lot of people here who disagree. You tell me what gives Logan writes,

1090
01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:29.479
Do you think Greg ganya ever walks
around the park where his dad's house

1091
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:34.239
used to be in Reminiscence? Absolutely, I think it's been totally taken and

1092
01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:39.399
it's subdivided now. I don't even
think it's walkable. But I imagine,

1093
01:16:39.479 --> 01:16:43.439
well, I imagine that he walks
in the neighborhood and like every Sunday,

1094
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:45.640
I think, like, yeah,
every Sunday. Yeah, yeah, he

1095
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:51.239
drives over there and he and and
looks at the at what he thought he

1096
01:16:51.399 --> 01:17:00.960
was going to inherit wo wow,
sorry Pale the greater Good. It was

1097
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:05.319
more important York Sammy Conduit, Big
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1098
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:08.760
you so much, Dominant, thanks
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1099
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:17.640
think if you think if vern had
had like maintained a successful promotion that they

1100
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:24.319
they they wouldn't have done that.
I don't. I don't know, I

1101
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:26.399
don't. I don't know if that
had much to do with it, Like

1102
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:29.800
if he ever remained a person of
note in yeah, they would SI would

1103
01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:32.039
have taken it. Really, he
might have been more effective in terms of

1104
01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:36.279
having the resources to hire lawyers to
fight it them domain taking. But yeah,

1105
01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:41.199
usually that's just you know, some
political prerogative takes over and yes,

1106
01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:44.439
and it's just like they have to
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1107
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.680
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1108
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1109
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1110
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1111
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episode ninety nine of UTC that being
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1112
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the wrestler, and I needed nine
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1113
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1118
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We appreciate the pledge. John Callahill, thank you so very much for

1119
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your support on Patreon, Luke writes
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1120
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:48.000
Predicting, he says, twenty twenty
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1121
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:57.359
to engage critically with the performance rather
than becoming emotionally absorbed. Yes, yes,

1122
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:02.279
and that, my friend, is
the problem. Mm hm. Chris

1123
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:06.279
Papinaurus, thank you very much for
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1124
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:09.960
Chares, this is Chris from Tom's
River, New Jersey. To jog your

1125
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:13.199
memory. You two played my acoustic
rendition of your theme song to open your

1126
01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:17.319
twenty seventeen Christmas special, which was
the honor of a lifetime. Anyway,

1127
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:20.119
a few years ago I lost interest
in wrestling and had some financial woes which

1128
01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:26.359
necessitated the cessation of my Patreon membership. Now I am back. The memories

1129
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:29.119
of your show pulled me back in
like a magnet. I'm back to the

1130
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:30.920
ten dollar a month membership. I
missed a lot, so I can't wait

1131
01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:33.560
to get back to listen to everything. Thanks for all you do, Jack

1132
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:35.680
and JP. Love to see that, love to see people. Yep,

1133
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:40.199
yep, Like you said earlier,
they come back around. That's right.

1134
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:44.199
They atone for their sins. Anthony
Walters. Thanks very much for your increased

1135
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support. We appreciate the cake.
Corey Burchard and Sean Smith and Tom Bauer,

1136
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:51.960
who's a rock solid member of the
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1137
01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:57.800
we love it. Ben Oudsley and
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1138
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1139
01:20:05.159 --> 01:20:12.479
Ryan has this to say ahead of
the TLFX. He writes in the subject

1140
01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:20.399
line, Sean teaches Vince how to
be cool? Oh my God. As

1141
01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:25.920
Lapstack's approaches, I've felt compelled to
sort of honor you, most importantly with

1142
01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:29.520
my Patreon dollar, but also by
sharing with you my favorite moments from that

1143
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:33.279
cast. My favorite journey ever is
Montreal. I've listened to the entire journey

1144
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:39.239
several times over and will listen to
it several more times. I was able

1145
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:43.359
to obtain backstage audio of Vince asking
Sean Michaels to teach him how to be

1146
01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:48.199
cool. I transcribed it and is
included at the end of his email.

1147
01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:53.720
You guys got me through the worst
period of my life. Last year.

1148
01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:59.239
My mom passed away rather suddenly from
a violent end stage cancer. Apologies man,

1149
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:05.439
sympathies. That's that is uh,
I can't even I can't. I

1150
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:09.479
did not leave her hospital room for
the last week of her life except to

1151
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:13.039
get food, and your podcast was
the only way I could even remotely relax,

1152
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:16.079
relax and lessen my tears so I
could portray strength from my mom and

1153
01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:19.560
my sister's. Yes. Yes,
I'm forever indebted to both of you for

1154
01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:24.039
helping me during that time and the
difficult year that has followed. I hope

1155
01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:28.439
this transcription makes you laugh like it
did for me. They likely will.

1156
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:32.199
I just had to to Oh god, okay, I think it was definitely

1157
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:38.279
your calling here. Oh my god, we think got me other it is.

1158
01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:51.119
Oh my god, you're gonna be
Sean. Uh yeah, sure,

1159
01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:54.279
let me please, you gotta be
se I need to be Sean. I

1160
01:21:54.319 --> 01:22:01.640
can't do Sean as well as you
can. John. I've been thinking,

1161
01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:06.520
you know, about this whole entertainment
thing, and well, I've come to

1162
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:12.119
the realization that I need a bit
of help, a touch of finesse if

1163
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:17.079
you will. You want to learn
to dance, Vince, Well, not

1164
01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:25.000
just dance, Sean, I want
to be cool. I've watched you over

1165
01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:28.560
the years, and you've got that
charisma, that that swagger. I need

1166
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:34.640
some of that Sean Michael's magic.
You bet you've been in the business for

1167
01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:40.039
decades, Vincy, you practically built. It's got your wanting to dance and

1168
01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:44.960
be cool. Now, Jack,
let's be clear. You know we're not

1169
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.159
in the wrestling business anymore. It's
all about entertainment. That and notwithstanding,

1170
01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:53.399
I feel the need to connect with
the audience on a different level. Dancing,

1171
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:55.960
being cool, it's all part of
the show. You see, I

1172
01:22:55.960 --> 01:22:57.840
get it. Vince. So you
want me to teach you how to dance

1173
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:02.359
and be cool? Yes, exactly. You're the heartbreak kid, the showstopper.

1174
01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:08.600
You've got that magnetism. Teach me
your secret, Shawn. All right,

1175
01:23:08.720 --> 01:23:11.720
Vince, let's start with some basic
dance moves. Have you ever done

1176
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:16.479
the moonwalk? Like this? Close? But ah, got some work to

1177
01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:18.840
do, my friend. Okay.
Moreover, it's it's not just about the

1178
01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:23.079
moves. It's it's about the attitude, the confidence. You've got to own

1179
01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:26.880
the stage. I can do the
show and when I'm out there, remember

1180
01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:30.239
it's not wrestling, it's pure entertainment. You got a Vince, We'll turn

1181
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:36.439
you in the coolest entertainment mogul in
no time. That's to luck Ryan.

1182
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:42.520
We appreciate that. It's a fucking
great laps GPT style. That was a

1183
01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:45.760
fucking little Christmas treat for people.
Oh yeah, son fun. It's put

1184
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:50.920
the algorithm to work to a good
purpose for once. M N two fifty

1185
01:23:50.920 --> 01:24:00.800
two, Andrew Hennings, Mark Sweeney, Chadillac, Jason Powell, Isaiah Lepper,

1186
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:05.520
Keita Ady, Gerard Martin long time, he's a one K motherfucker.

1187
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:14.199
Oh yeah, Bowen Smith, liam
O Murchu, all these folks, hearty,

1188
01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:18.760
thank you for your support on Patreon. Mike asks the question, I'll

1189
01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:24.000
give this one to you. I
think it's to bret up your wheelhouse subject

1190
01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:29.560
line who should play? We've talked
about this before, Vince McMahon. Oh,

1191
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:33.399
especially in light of recent developments as
lapsex approaches, I felt compelled to

1192
01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:36.399
sort of honor you, most importantly
with my Patreon dollar, but also by

1193
01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:40.840
sharing with you my favorite moments from
that cast. My favorite Wait a minute,

1194
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:45.000
I read this one. Journey is
mont No, wait a minute,

1195
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:46.520
I read that one right. Wait
a minute, no, no, yes,

1196
01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:49.840
hello chairman. Sorry, I was
having a discussion with my friends about

1197
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:54.359
who should play Vince McMahon a movie
or mini series. I'd like a lapse

1198
01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:59.680
ruling to on some names that came
up that I thought were good or interesting.

1199
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:04.039
Michael Shannon, Uh, do we
want to go through these now?

1200
01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:13.640
Michael Shannon, Josh Brolin, Brian
Cranston, Joe Joel Edgerton, Tom Hardy,

1201
01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:16.880
Jon hamm Alec Baldwin. Some names
were that were suggested that I just

1202
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:21.239
don't see being very good. I'd
like to get elapsed ruling when you guys

1203
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:26.119
with you guys on these as well. Nicholas Cage, Robert Downey Junior,

1204
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:29.880
Christian Bale, Bradley Cooper, Michael
Keaton. Thanks for all that you do

1205
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:34.000
and I'm looking forward to future episodes. Oh yeah, for sure, if

1206
01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:41.479
you ever what I'll never forget what
won me over with it is his performance

1207
01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:47.800
in Hail Caesar, the uh the
the Cohen Brothers movie, and at one

1208
01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:54.399
point he just slaps George Clooney and
I'm like, oh shit, this is

1209
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:59.560
Vince McMahan. This is it.
I think Josh Brolin is the best choice

1210
01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:02.359
to play Vince McMahon, hands down. I think he would I think he

1211
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:11.399
would fucking nail it. Michael Keaton, I feel like, and I love

1212
01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:15.399
Michael Keaton. I think Michael Keaton
is so great. I just don't know

1213
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:25.119
if he's got that there's something about
him. Yeah, he's like a little

1214
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:32.319
too quirky. I feel like to
be to be vincmick Man, I mean,

1215
01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:39.720
I I I imagine, I mean, I'm sure I can't picture it

1216
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:43.000
in my head, but I'm sure
that Robert down and Junior can do it

1217
01:26:43.800 --> 01:26:48.560
because he's just so fucking brilliant and
he can he can metamorphoise into anything.

1218
01:26:48.680 --> 01:26:55.159
Yeah, but my personal favorite would
be Josh Brolin hands down, out of

1219
01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:59.840
all them. I don't like Brian
Cranison, I don't I don't know,

1220
01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:03.279
I don't know, I don't I
don't see it. Josh Brolin would be

1221
01:27:03.359 --> 01:27:08.640
fucking perfect. Yep. Yeah,
there's the answer, folks. In we

1222
01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:12.359
we've we've gone through this before and
that's that's that's the verdict right there from

1223
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:15.079
the camp Shares, I think that's
absolutely the best call. Let me look

1224
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:18.800
at his face just to be sure. In what role as what do you

1225
01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:28.079
oh in uh uh Hail Caesar in
the movie Hail Caesar. He just he's

1226
01:27:28.119 --> 01:27:33.000
just perfect in that and Yeah,
yeah, that's him. That's absolut dude

1227
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:38.520
with the mustache too. Now yeah, exactly right. Oh my perfect at

1228
01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:44.319
them pell fucking perfect. Oh they'll
make it in our lifetimes. That movie

1229
01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:48.239
is gonna come out, and it's
gonna be so probably after he dies dies,

1230
01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:54.319
which seems like it might be sooner
than later. Well, you talk

1231
01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:57.159
on episodes about how we were kids, there was people saying w c W

1232
01:27:57.359 --> 01:27:59.800
was real and w w F was
fake. Remember this, Yes, yes,

1233
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:02.439
totally British stew Dog and Patreon lets
us know can confirm the debate of

1234
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:06.199
WCW being real and WWF is fake. Made it to the school playgrounds of

1235
01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:11.079
Liverpool, England. Yes, I
think he writes it was because of the

1236
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:15.600
Flair blade jobs. Of course that
would makes sense, Daniel writes, in

1237
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:17.159
my local toy shop as a kid, also from the UK, the ww

1238
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:20.960
figures were a pound cheaper than the
WWF ones. It was either two nine

1239
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:24.520
and three ninety nine or three ninety
nine and four ninety nine, So I

1240
01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:26.720
had to stock up in the globes
as that was the best way to make

1241
01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:30.399
my pocket money go further. So
that's probably why so many people had Dad

1242
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:32.000
galubs. Oh he likes wrestling,
I'll buy the cheaper of the two I

1243
01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:34.920
love, Yeah, exactly. Oh
shit, I'm gonna buy these two ninety

1244
01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:39.119
nine fucking things. Do you remember
galubs being cheaper than hasbros? Uh?

1245
01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:42.720
Maybe like buy like a dollar,
yeah or something like that. It's funny.

1246
01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:46.560
I don't think my I don't think
anybody ever bought me galubs. I

1247
01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:50.159
think I bought them myself. I
bought them for my definitely bought for me

1248
01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:55.279
because I was like, what are
these now? I never I never bought

1249
01:28:55.279 --> 01:29:00.000
I never, they were never bought
for me. I definitely was like because

1250
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:08.079
because so many of them at the
time were in WWEE that I was like,

1251
01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:11.199
oh shit, this is like the
roster that I can't fucking find.

1252
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:15.920
Sure. You know amazing, man, those gallub figures. What a fucking

1253
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:18.039
time to be a live, right, I fucking I mean speaking a price

1254
01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:21.319
choice. One time I tried to
take the tag off a cheaper one and

1255
01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:25.960
put it on a more expensive one
to see if at I'd get the cheaper

1256
01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:30.079
price. Uh. No one told
me about barcodes, so oh they did,

1257
01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:33.479
Sam. That kind of sucked,
Adam. One of my favorite WW

1258
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:38.079
moments is right after Doom breaks up, speaking of globs. Right after Doom

1259
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:40.800
breaks up, they interview some young
black child in the crowd and ask him

1260
01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:45.399
his favorite wrestlers Doom, He says
in a dejected tone. Wow, just

1261
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:48.359
broken up. A microcosm and future
glimpse of how wrestling and especially life will

1262
01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:51.199
always be disappointing in the end.
This is why it's one of the best

1263
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:55.640
moments in the history of bullshit buffoonery. It's a good thing to hone in

1264
01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:59.039
on right there, Yeah, William
Wright's unsmoking. I was at the Brian

1265
01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:02.239
Pillman Memorial Shit in nineteen ninety nine. They held silent auctions for wrestler donated

1266
01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:05.119
items in Rick flare m Seed,
where he would invite the two highest bidders

1267
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:09.039
to the ring for a final auction. There were some pretty high end items,

1268
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:11.680
like a ring worn Flair robe.
I was a poor college student,

1269
01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:13.960
so I had a bit only on
one thing. I thought I had a

1270
01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:16.279
chance at an autographed Al snow head. I was still surprised when I got

1271
01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:18.880
called into the ring. I was
standing there in the ring with the other

1272
01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:21.960
bidd Al snow and Rick Flair,
but back and forth got to one hundred

1273
01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:25.479
fifty dollars and the other guy jumped
to two hundred dollars. Sanity hit me

1274
01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:28.800
and I realized that I didn't want
a mannequin head that badly and bout out.

1275
01:30:29.119 --> 01:30:30.319
I returned to my seat with my
friends, who screamed at me for

1276
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:33.199
not going higher. I was coming
down from the adrenaline rush from the auction,

1277
01:30:33.239 --> 01:30:35.159
and since it was nineteen ninety nine, I went to find a play

1278
01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:39.880
somewhere in the small arena to pound
a cigarette. I should say that security

1279
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:42.600
was non existent, and I somehow
found my way to a loading dock with

1280
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.199
a door open. As I'm staring
out the bay door having my smoke,

1281
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:48.239
I hear a door open behind me
and Nancy Penoah walks over. WHOA,

1282
01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:51.119
and I think I'm going to get
thrown out of the building, but she

1283
01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:55.840
comes up and asks me for a
cigarette. I give her one and she

1284
01:30:55.960 --> 01:30:58.840
makes a little small talk. I
only knew her from WCW at the time,

1285
01:30:58.880 --> 01:31:00.640
but I told her that I was
a fan of her and Chris,

1286
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:02.159
but not wanting to be a total
douche, I mostly left her alone.

1287
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:05.079
She finished her smoke and said wait
here. She went back in the door.

1288
01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:10.399
She came back from and came back
shortly with the murderer. She brought

1289
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:13.560
a home. She said, My
wife said, you're a fan. I

1290
01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:15.800
said I was, and that he
was one of the best parts of WCW.

1291
01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:17.439
I'm about six feet tall and I
had easily four to six inches on

1292
01:31:17.479 --> 01:31:20.399
him, but his fucking torso was
over twice as wide as mine. And

1293
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:27.279
of course he was being nice to
me, but he was still terrifying.

1294
01:31:27.720 --> 01:31:30.840
That's right. Thanks for the dispatch, will Oh, that's what we're looking

1295
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:35.960
for. Ah, those moments that
only a lapsed fan can appreciate the gravity

1296
01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:46.600
of. Chris writes the Book of
JR. Oh Boy Chairman. I will

1297
01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:50.760
probably need to build this theory up
into a more fully developed piece. However,

1298
01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:54.720
I am out of time today.
And the brief discussion about Jim Ross

1299
01:31:54.760 --> 01:31:58.479
I heard at the start of the
Revolution twenty twenty Deep Dive brought a comparison

1300
01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:03.039
between JR. And the Book of
Job from the Bible. Job quote was

1301
01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:09.560
blameless and upright. He feared God
and shunned evil. God let Satan test

1302
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:14.680
Job to see if Job would deny
God by taking everything from him. The

1303
01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:19.880
devil did everything he could to Job
get Job never cursed or denied God what

1304
01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:24.680
was happening to him now? JR, by his own admission, is not

1305
01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:29.600
blameless, but is mostly upright and
has mostly shunned evil as much as one

1306
01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:38.560
canon wrestling here is was JR.
Here, here is what, here is

1307
01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:42.680
what JR. Has been tested with
the top of my head. Some of

1308
01:32:42.680 --> 01:32:45.079
these may be out of order,
and apologies for the block of text here.

1309
01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:49.600
Jr. Has had two divorces,
sold his house in Texts at a

1310
01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:55.199
huge loss after JCP was sold to
Turner after about six months, lost his

1311
01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:59.560
job when Eric Bischoff took over WSW, was hired by Vince. Probably still

1312
01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:03.680
has some appliances in storage in Atlanta. Fired by Vince, brought back by

1313
01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:08.479
Vince. Made to move to Connecticut, fired by Vince, brought back by

1314
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:12.479
Vince. Lost his health, had
he give up his job with the Atlanta

1315
01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:16.319
Falcons that he really enjoyed, had
a disastrous heel turn, watched his best

1316
01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:20.199
friend get beat up for real by
Bart Gunn and brawl for all, lost

1317
01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:25.079
his mama, had an attack of
Bell's palsy during a pay per view,

1318
01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:30.119
backstabbed by Johnny as out of his
talent relations job. Traded a SmackDown on

1319
01:33:30.199 --> 01:33:33.159
live television without knowing it, made
to train his replacement without knowing it,

1320
01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:39.279
replaced by the guy he was training, brought back again when the new guy

1321
01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:43.560
didn't work out. Humiliated every time
the company went to Oklahoma, including an

1322
01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:48.920
ugly blade job to help sell Austin's
heel turn after Main's seventeen, Constantly berated

1323
01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:54.000
by Vince and Kevin Dunn, made
fun of, almost made fun of almost

1324
01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:58.680
everyone in Vince's inner circle, probably
a bye right made fun of by almost

1325
01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:02.159
everyone in Vince's innercer. Had his
boss make fun of his colon surgery in

1326
01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:06.800
a segment on live television, had
his boss specifically tell Jr. And his

1327
01:34:06.880 --> 01:34:13.319
wife to make sure to watch that
segment live. Ease to the sideline.

1328
01:34:13.640 --> 01:34:15.680
His wife and the love of his
life is killed in an accident just before

1329
01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:19.479
he has scheduled to work Mania thirty
three, signed to a deal but never

1330
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:25.000
used by Vince, losing his health
again and just moved to the B and

1331
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:30.840
C shows with a e W.
All of this, Jr. Has never

1332
01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:36.319
denied wrestling or even the people in
wrestling who have done this to him.

1333
01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:42.000
A quick refresher from eight years of
Catholic school and a quick Google search reminds

1334
01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:45.760
me of that Job learned the hard
lesson that when everything is tripped away from

1335
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:55.439
our lives, all we have is
God. Wow, and God is enough.

1336
01:34:56.159 --> 01:35:00.680
No matter how bad life gets,
God's love and his grace are enough.

1337
01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:08.119
Can that be translated into JR learned
the hard lesson that when everything is

1338
01:35:08.159 --> 01:35:18.439
stripped away from our lives, all
we have is wrestling, and rolling is

1339
01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:28.760
enough. No matter how bad life
gets, Wrestling's love and its grace are

1340
01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:33.279
enough. In closing, JR so
beloved because he is one of us.

1341
01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:39.720
Think of all the tragedy, criminal
behavior, stupid segments, and times we

1342
01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:44.159
have been made the butt of the
joke by the people running the quote sport

1343
01:35:44.279 --> 01:35:54.760
we love, yet we are still
here. That's correct. We us are

1344
01:35:54.920 --> 01:36:15.640
all Job, we are all JR. Just something to think about thoughts.

1345
01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:24.760
There's absolutely right. I feel like
I'm doing the job. Yes, heavy

1346
01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:30.079
stuff there, pal yep. From
Our aw Revolution twenty twenty episode David writes

1347
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:39.119
triumphant tragedy over Niagara Falls and an
MSG lapsed journey. Greetings co chairs,

1348
01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:42.720
longtime listener with two accounts, I
thought you might enjoy. Sorry for length,

1349
01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:45.239
My family and I recently took a
trip to Niagara Falls. As is

1350
01:36:45.239 --> 01:36:47.800
my usual routine, I endeavored to
read a book about the history of the

1351
01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:51.079
location prior to going to better appreciate
the region. I thus read Niagara,

1352
01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:55.720
A History of the Falls by Peter
Bertone. One of the later chapters tells

1353
01:36:55.720 --> 01:36:59.079
the well known tale of one Roger
Woodward, who in nineteen sixty eighth age

1354
01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:02.039
of seven, unwittingly jurneyed over the
Horseshoe Falls after an up river boating accident

1355
01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:05.560
with no protection other than a life
jacket. The author describes his final thoughts

1356
01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:09.479
prior to being hauled over the mammoth
Roaring Falls to what he thought was certain

1357
01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:13.880
death. He wondered what his parents
would do with his pet dog, Fritz,

1358
01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:17.920
named for his idol Fritz von erik
Wow, a local wrestler who lit

1359
01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:21.880
a feudorus down from the Woodwards trailer. Yeah, this is when Fritz lived

1360
01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:27.399
in Niagara Falls and the trailer and
Jackie dyed. Amazingly, Roger's tragedy was

1361
01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:30.000
turned into triumph as he survived the
terrifying ordeal, becoming the first and only

1362
01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:33.359
person to emrge alive after going over
Niagara Falls with only a life jacket his

1363
01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:36.760
protection Thus, while his neighbor,
the real life fritzvan Eric lived a life

1364
01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:40.880
filled with tragedy. I found it
somewhat uplifting that Fritz van Erks the dog

1365
01:37:41.399 --> 01:37:45.359
experienced a triumph of sorts when he
greeted younger Roger upon returning home after his

1366
01:37:45.439 --> 01:37:49.359
death defying encounter. Or recently,
my family journey to NYC to see Billy

1367
01:37:49.439 --> 01:37:54.520
Joel play Madison Square as part of
his famed residency. You've been aching to

1368
01:37:54.560 --> 01:38:02.439
get over there, Hambas get that
text. I was, I was,

1369
01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:09.319
I had tickets. I had bought
tickets for my wife for an anniversary.

1370
01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:15.800
And then what did you have?
They were scheduled for January and the week

1371
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:20.479
of the fucking concert, we both
got COVID. You had more than tickets,

1372
01:38:20.479 --> 01:38:28.920
as it turned out. Yep Ah. How would you counsel people to

1373
01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:40.279
interpret things like that happening in their
lives? Just don't no point here.

1374
01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:45.680
I was hoping for an uplifting message. No silver lining, none, There's

1375
01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:48.239
been none so far. People don't
talk enough about that. I guess.

1376
01:38:48.319 --> 01:38:53.000
I guess the silver lining is that
you know, I gave my parents a

1377
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:55.920
fucking good night out that they never
thought they would have had. Yeah,

1378
01:38:55.920 --> 01:38:58.720
they got to take the tickets,
right, Yeah, fucking great. Thanks,

1379
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:01.439
Oh you'll get you'll get there.
Don't want sorry. Done in July

1380
01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:10.800
is done in July. I mean, people don't talk enough about the moments

1381
01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:15.720
in our lives where we learn nothing, yes, where nothing of value is

1382
01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:20.159
derived and it's only negative you know, yes, yes, we need to

1383
01:39:20.199 --> 01:39:24.159
know how to process those too,
instead of like, oh, actually it

1384
01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:27.680
worked out for the It did not
work out for the best. Sometimes sometimes

1385
01:39:27.720 --> 01:39:30.439
it just sucks. It worked out
for the worst. How about this right?

1386
01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:34.840
And it left me thinking it's not
worth it. Sometimes it's just a

1387
01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:41.159
fucking disaster. I can. Oh, man, let me tell you.

1388
01:39:41.399 --> 01:39:44.359
I feel bad for the boss,
but what he ends up in those situations,

1389
01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:47.319
it is joy to talk to him. Of course, the ship that

1390
01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:50.000
comes out of his mouth when he's
in that mood. Oh my god,

1391
01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:54.920
forget it. I mean again,
I should have known better. I should

1392
01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:57.880
have I mean, look, here's
the thing, here's the thing. This,

1393
01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:01.680
this is the reality of it.
Okay. My wife and I have

1394
01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:06.359
been together since you know, we've
been together since since two thousand and nine,

1395
01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:15.640
and I I don't even remember a
time that I have tried to organize

1396
01:40:16.039 --> 01:40:28.840
us going out that has succeeded,
Like every time that I plan something for

1397
01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:30.600
us, and the irony is that
I get you know, it's like,

1398
01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:32.600
you know, why don't you ever
think of stuff to do for us?

1399
01:40:32.600 --> 01:40:39.920
And it's like because it's not going
to work, Like it's just it's not

1400
01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:43.840
going to work. And and so
I'm like, see what I'm talking about?

1401
01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:46.560
This this is like so key to
life, like how to deal with

1402
01:40:46.600 --> 01:40:51.159
this? And I'm just like,
like, I seriously, I think of

1403
01:40:51.640 --> 01:40:56.000
I once tried to get us to
go on a cruise and it fucking fell

1404
01:40:56.039 --> 01:41:02.760
through. I tried, I've tried
a miss things just and it's like,

1405
01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:12.319
no, fuck it. Tell me
like when you realize that Billy Joel wasn't

1406
01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:16.640
going to happen? Do you I'm
trying to picture like your countenance, your

1407
01:41:16.640 --> 01:41:19.239
general is it kind of yep?
See yep? Or is it like fuck?

1408
01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:21.359
Is it anger? Is it like
see yep? Of course yep.

1409
01:41:21.359 --> 01:41:32.119
Absolutely no. I'll tell you.
There was a so when when my so

1410
01:41:32.520 --> 01:41:35.720
my kid was the first one to
get it, she got COVID yeah,

1411
01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:43.520
and I was like fuck, countdowns
on, but she was like she wasn't

1412
01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:45.439
really it didn't really hit her hard. Oh yeah, thank God for that.

1413
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:54.399
Absolutely. Then my wife got it
and she get and it was like

1414
01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:57.720
it's like it was okay, Like
I was like, okay, I'm like,

1415
01:41:57.840 --> 01:42:03.800
I'm like, I'm willing to sacrifice
twenty thousand other people to go see

1416
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:08.319
Billy Joel. Yeah, we're way
past the point where there's any virtue and

1417
01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:13.640
yeah, yeah, I'm not interested
in saving other people. I want to

1418
01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:20.680
go see Billy Joel. Why about
the tickets? Right? And then she

1419
01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:26.279
like, you know, like the
day after she got it, it was

1420
01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:30.279
it was rough, yeah, and
she wasn't good, and I was like,

1421
01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:31.199
okay, I was like, all
right, we can. I was

1422
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:36.800
like, but I'm but I'm okay, hasn't happened. And then the next

1423
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:45.279
day I got it and I felt
like shit, and it wasn't there wasn't

1424
01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:51.640
even, there wasn't anger, there
wasn't like a moment of it was just

1425
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:56.000
like this, I just it's just
not going to happen. It was just

1426
01:42:56.760 --> 01:43:02.840
it was just complete acceptance in it. And that's just I guessious. It's

1427
01:43:03.159 --> 01:43:08.039
hilarious. It's it's it's it's ridiculous. It's like you know, and and

1428
01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:12.279
I was like, yeah, it's
just there was just complete acceptance. And

1429
01:43:12.359 --> 01:43:16.359
it was like, okay, we
got to sell the tickets now or whatever,

1430
01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:21.800
and there was just complete acceptance.
Yes, yes, so much.

1431
01:43:24.079 --> 01:43:27.399
And I just knew. I knew, like there was just no way we

1432
01:43:27.399 --> 01:43:31.800
were going to be because it was
the concert was on a Thursday, and

1433
01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:36.479
this must have been Tuesday, and
it was like, yeah, no,

1434
01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:43.159
this is not going to happen.
And so maybe it was Wednesday. Probably

1435
01:43:43.159 --> 01:43:46.520
was Wednesday actually, and and we
were going to sell the tickets and then

1436
01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:51.159
we you know, my I was
able to talk my parents into doing because

1437
01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:55.880
they weren't. You know, my
mom's a wreck physically, and so it

1438
01:43:56.000 --> 01:44:00.199
was it was not something that my
dad was but I was like, I

1439
01:44:00.239 --> 01:44:02.079
was like, you don't understand,
Like, this is actually the best place

1440
01:44:02.079 --> 01:44:06.680
for you to do it, because
having been an employee of Madison Square Garden,

1441
01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:15.279
I can tell you that their motto
is treating their guests better than their

1442
01:44:15.319 --> 01:44:18.560
employees. Sure, so you're gonna
be fine, You're gonna be great.

1443
01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:21.520
They didn't call the number. They
had a great time. They fucking loved

1444
01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:25.000
it. So happy to hear that
they had a blast. Like, honestly,

1445
01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:27.239
in some ways, it was like
I was great. I was so

1446
01:44:27.319 --> 01:44:30.399
happy that they were able to do
that because they never do shit like that,

1447
01:44:30.119 --> 01:44:35.880
and and they had an absolutely amazing
time. And it was like,

1448
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:40.800
you know, I can't eat.
I I the last time my parents went

1449
01:44:40.840 --> 01:44:45.039
to a fucking you know, like
rock concert or like pop music concert,

1450
01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:50.520
God, like sixties, seventies at
you. So it was good. It

1451
01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:55.600
was good. It was definitely good. I'm hoping we can. It's just

1452
01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:58.760
hard, you know, we don't
fucking you know it is. What's the

1453
01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:02.199
riskiest thing you could do with life? Make pass? Oh? Absolutely,

1454
01:45:03.159 --> 01:45:08.880
Like the riskiest thing you can do
in life is try I hate getting sick,

1455
01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:12.000
of course, But what do I
hate the most about getting sick.

1456
01:45:12.760 --> 01:45:18.239
It's the fact that every hour I'm
calibrating in my head what it's going to

1457
01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:21.960
cost me that I'm sick. And
I don't mean work wise, I mean

1458
01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:27.199
everything plan wise, because I mean, we've now I don't know if people

1459
01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:30.159
have realized this, they probably have
that we've now entered an era where every

1460
01:45:30.279 --> 01:45:36.199
single holiday there's going to be two
or three family members who simply cannot participate

1461
01:45:36.239 --> 01:45:40.479
because of the ature of COVID.
Yes, it used to be that if

1462
01:45:40.479 --> 01:45:44.000
they were sick around the holidays,
they'd still show up, you know and

1463
01:45:44.079 --> 01:45:46.119
just kind of stay away from people
and feel like shit. And people didn't.

1464
01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:50.039
But now, like it's not that
people are deathly afraid of COVID,

1465
01:45:50.039 --> 01:45:55.079
but that the the sort of you
know, the I don't know how to

1466
01:45:55.079 --> 01:45:59.239
put it. The cultural expectation is
you you don't go, you cancel,

1467
01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:02.520
right, and you can feel less
sick than you would have felt, you

1468
01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:05.880
know, with with the old cold
or something. And still it's like it's

1469
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:11.239
a different palculus. God, God, God forbid the host of the fucking

1470
01:46:11.279 --> 01:46:15.800
holiday act. Gets it ever gonna
be this fucking tap dance thing every year.

1471
01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:18.640
I hope we realize we've entered this
reality that you're talking about here.

1472
01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:20.880
Yeah, that's it. I mean, that's just it. I mean,

1473
01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:27.399
there's that is that is the COVID
age, you know, that is the

1474
01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:30.319
COVID age. We you know,
who knows if we actually had an opportunity

1475
01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:34.439
to fucking if we if we if
we actually if people actually had the had

1476
01:46:34.439 --> 01:46:40.600
the fucking brain to work the herd
mentality, if we'd still be here or

1477
01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:43.319
not in this is the same situation, we might well we might as well,

1478
01:46:43.439 --> 01:46:45.560
we might have been We might be
here anyway we might not have been

1479
01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:49.920
who the fuck knows, but like
we're here, and it's a it is

1480
01:46:49.960 --> 01:46:57.840
a a A devastating truth, devastating
we have, thank you, devastating truth.

1481
01:46:58.079 --> 01:47:01.479
There will be it's scary. It's
not scary, no, no,

1482
01:47:01.520 --> 01:47:06.399
but but it'll still pissed off.
Yes, exactly. It ruins things for

1483
01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:14.079
me, yes, exactly. Expectations
Expectations are now. I mean, because

1484
01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:16.159
here's you know, here's the thing
too, Like we think people are over

1485
01:47:16.199 --> 01:47:19.039
it, and then all of a
sudden, somebody in your circle gets it,

1486
01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:23.199
and people's true color comes out,
and they don't want them anywhere around.

1487
01:47:23.520 --> 01:47:25.640
No, they don't want them in
the same country. Nope. I

1488
01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:38.600
have I have my my wife's partner, the first get together we had.

1489
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:48.800
I mean, she is so she
is so fucking petrified of getting COVID.

1490
01:47:49.640 --> 01:47:54.560
No she did, she has now
see I thought that would be the the

1491
01:47:54.640 --> 01:47:58.119
anidote for most, but I guess
not like no, no, she's still

1492
01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:01.399
petrified of it. And and but
she's she's the kind that wears the fucking

1493
01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:08.119
you know, the the the has
mat yeah, yeah, with the strap

1494
01:48:08.199 --> 01:48:10.720
in the back of the head,
yeah, you know what with the and

1495
01:48:10.800 --> 01:48:16.159
with the mat like the full plastic
face mask right right right, well like

1496
01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:23.319
uh uh dx with sergeant slaughter.
You know, are you serious, Like

1497
01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:26.800
the windshield wipers, yes, well
not the windshield wipers, but like that

1498
01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:30.239
full o, that full plastic face
mask. Years oh yeah, yes,

1499
01:48:30.520 --> 01:48:34.319
in the wild. She fucking brought
that up. I'll never forget the first

1500
01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:38.439
holiday we had and she's like walking
around with this thing on. I'm like,

1501
01:48:39.119 --> 01:48:44.359
I'm like, look, Jesus Christ, like live a little, like

1502
01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:46.880
live a little for the lover of
Christ. I mean, people were as

1503
01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:49.960
the people wearing beaeper suits. I
know, yep, yep, yep.

1504
01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:54.520
But like you think you look back
at your high school yearbooking, cringe.

1505
01:48:55.079 --> 01:49:00.960
Wait till you look back at how
people were dressed in twenty twenty in terms

1506
01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:06.920
of gearch gear. It's almost like
it's almost like it wasn't real. It's

1507
01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:13.840
like with somebody else's life that I'm
thinking about so bizarre. It's bizarre thing

1508
01:49:14.039 --> 01:49:15.520
it really was. I mean,
when you think about all that shit,

1509
01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:20.760
just the mentality that you were in
every day was so so unusual that it

1510
01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:26.119
did not feel like your life.
I mean, you had such a it

1511
01:49:27.079 --> 01:49:35.199
was so it was so bizarre with
with the Yeah, just like being shut

1512
01:49:35.239 --> 01:49:42.439
in and they were like a small
a bit of restaurant, a small list

1513
01:49:42.479 --> 01:49:45.039
of restaurants, a very limited list
of restaurants we'd go to. And every

1514
01:49:45.039 --> 01:49:48.079
time I go back to one of
those, I like get in this weird

1515
01:49:48.119 --> 01:49:53.640
headspace of like it's almost like a
deja vus. It's almost like a but

1516
01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:57.520
deja vous, the kind where you
don't know why you're remembering, like why

1517
01:49:57.560 --> 01:50:00.840
does this? Why am I feeling
like I'm actually revised in a routine I

1518
01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:03.720
had because I am. But it's
a routine that was not It wasn't choice.

1519
01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:06.760
It was like, right, it
was due to lack of choice that

1520
01:50:06.800 --> 01:50:10.760
this was my routine because like there
was yeah, there were there were a

1521
01:50:10.800 --> 01:50:15.119
couple of places that you know,
we would Yeah, it was so weird.

1522
01:50:15.199 --> 01:50:20.880
It's such a fucking bizarre time.
More recently, he writes, my

1523
01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:25.359
family journey to NYC to see Billy
Joel play Madison Square. That's how we

1524
01:50:25.399 --> 01:50:28.640
got to that. Yeah, right, I just said, go on my

1525
01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:31.640
own laps journey by touring MSG beforehand. You got it so I could appreciate

1526
01:50:31.640 --> 01:50:34.600
the most famous arena in the world
in more relaxed and uncrowded way and reflect

1527
01:50:34.680 --> 01:50:38.520
upon the many great wrestling moments that
occurred there. Although I believe you no

1528
01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:42.279
longer give tours JP, and envisioned
you giving this one during the hour long

1529
01:50:42.319 --> 01:50:44.560
tour, I was hoping that guy
would acknowledge some of the great moments in

1530
01:50:44.600 --> 01:50:46.159
wrestling that occurred within the arena alongside
I want to know who. I want

1531
01:50:46.159 --> 01:50:49.960
to know who the tour guide was, and I probably know them also a

1532
01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:55.199
lot of people who do tours there
alongside the other concerts, boxing events and

1533
01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:57.560
other pivotal moments, but I was
not totally surprised when he did not.

1534
01:50:58.680 --> 01:51:01.279
As we walked around the level concession
area, I was enamored by the Claga

1535
01:51:01.319 --> 01:51:04.319
photos adorning the upper wall of the
arena, recounting the great moments that occurred

1536
01:51:04.359 --> 01:51:08.840
there. There are hundreds of such
photos and I naturally sought out any wrestling

1537
01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:12.560
related ones with anticipation. The tour
guys seemed a bit rushed and I couldn't

1538
01:51:12.600 --> 01:51:15.119
understand half of what he said as
he spoke so fast while hurting the tour

1539
01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:18.279
group along. I was definitely that
guy who lagged behind trying to look at

1540
01:51:18.279 --> 01:51:21.199
eating every photos, who has not
miss any I'm sure you can relate JP.

1541
01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:25.720
There. There are a lot there
there there I think there are three.

1542
01:51:26.840 --> 01:51:33.520
There are three wrestling related photos on
the on that that that thing there

1543
01:51:33.600 --> 01:51:42.560
the uh whatever the fuck it's called. They there's obviously WrestleMania one, SummerSlam

1544
01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:46.840
eighty eight interesting is pictured, and
then also there's a picture of Jim Londos.

1545
01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:49.199
Oh. Yeah, we talked about
that. Yeah, you know,

1546
01:51:49.279 --> 01:51:53.560
coming up on Punchline Philly April seventh. That was kind of the first one,

1547
01:51:55.079 --> 01:51:57.000
the first WrestleMania Labs to get together. I mean, we did do

1548
01:51:57.039 --> 01:52:00.600
at Parking Lot Show Wrestling thirty two
in Dallas, but that was impromptu.

1549
01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:05.279
That was kind of a last minute, was arranged occasion for our fans with

1550
01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:11.399
ticketing the tour that was that was
fun, Like, it was so cool

1551
01:52:11.399 --> 01:52:14.479
to be able to offer that to
people. Yeah, and and and to

1552
01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:21.000
do like to be able to do
a wrestling centric one, which was great

1553
01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:25.479
because it was like this game of
the opportunity to go to all the real

1554
01:52:26.720 --> 01:52:30.000
the places that I like to go
to. But everyone else, who I

1555
01:52:30.039 --> 01:52:33.520
fucking you know, everyone every other
tour, all the tours that I had,

1556
01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:36.199
they were like, I don't give
a shit. About this phenomenal and

1557
01:52:36.239 --> 01:52:42.760
to work the co workers into doing
the end suddenly that was fun. Fucking

1558
01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:45.000
that guy. Oh god, he
got fired. Oh did he? People

1559
01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:47.479
wonder about him all the time.
Yeah, he got fired. I heard

1560
01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:53.560
my friend Mark, who was a
tour guy there. He still he's still

1561
01:52:53.560 --> 01:52:57.760
a tour guy there, although he's
he's he's playing on windening it up.

1562
01:52:57.800 --> 01:53:06.520
But you know, the the the
pandemic really changed a lot of MSG internally.

1563
01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:12.239
And I know he got he got
let go, and he was like

1564
01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:18.319
he was pissed. He was like
talking about how he actually said he said,

1565
01:53:18.479 --> 01:53:21.880
he said something like how I don't
know if it was this dramatic,

1566
01:53:21.920 --> 01:53:30.000
but like I am MSG or something
like that, it's tremendous. Like he

1567
01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:34.000
had a lot of pride, like
in his mind, in his mind he

1568
01:53:34.039 --> 01:53:38.760
actually said like he's I heard him
say this that he was like, how

1569
01:53:38.840 --> 01:53:42.800
much, how much bigger can you
get than than working Madison Square Garden.

1570
01:53:42.840 --> 01:53:45.199
And I'm like, he bought all
that he bought. Dude, you're you're

1571
01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:51.359
it's different. You're not you're not
working Madison Square Garden. You're working at

1572
01:53:51.439 --> 01:53:57.279
Madison Square Garden. It's different.
Guy who's making pretzels over there. So

1573
01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.760
yeah, it's like the guy making
fucking fried chicken sandwiches over there. Oh

1574
01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:08.600
sounds good. Yeah, kim chi
on top, Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

1575
01:54:09.319 --> 01:54:11.800
I think it's called fuku, but
I always called fuck you chicken.

1576
01:54:13.399 --> 01:54:15.119
In New York, that's what they
call it. Yes, And how amazing

1577
01:54:15.239 --> 01:54:19.079
was it that while we were giving
the tour to last fans, yes,

1578
01:54:19.159 --> 01:54:23.399
they were setting up the Ring of
Honor show. Yes, yes, people

1579
01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:26.399
would look at the ring and see
them. Yes, so cool. Yep,

1580
01:54:26.439 --> 01:54:29.079
it was a lot of fun.
It was great that we could do

1581
01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:32.039
that. And yeah, it was
a lot of fun. I was definitely

1582
01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:34.399
that guy who lagged behind trying to
look at each and every photo, so

1583
01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:38.720
it's not miss any. I was
pleased to locate three wrestling related ones just

1584
01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:42.479
like you said. Hogan vers Iron
Cheek from nineteen eighty four. Mm hm,

1585
01:54:42.680 --> 01:54:45.920
oh okay, I forgot. I
forgot about that one. Hogan tea

1586
01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:49.840
Piper Wonderful from Tanya one and Hogan
Savage DBAs Anddre SummerSlam eight eight to mis

1587
01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:54.439
Londo's So there are four. So
there's four. Then there will pleased with

1588
01:54:54.479 --> 01:54:57.760
these somewhat interwhelming discoveries. I noticed
there were approximately a dozen large and closed

1589
01:54:57.800 --> 01:55:01.680
displays with original memorabilia from most notable
of notable MSG events through the years.

1590
01:55:01.720 --> 01:55:04.800
Adorning the opposing wall, I could
tell this was where the real money was.

1591
01:55:05.239 --> 01:55:08.279
Our tour took us about two thirds
of the way around the arena,

1592
01:55:08.359 --> 01:55:11.000
highlighting these, thus missing a few
of the showcases. The ones we saw

1593
01:55:11.039 --> 01:55:13.720
featured the likes of Muhammad Ali,
the Pope, the New York Knicks,

1594
01:55:13.760 --> 01:55:16.000
the New York Rangers, et cetera. I was naturally disappointed, but again

1595
01:55:16.039 --> 01:55:18.359
not surprised that none of them featured
wrestling. In any case. They do,

1596
01:55:18.800 --> 01:55:24.159
they do, they do. There's
one if you go, I know

1597
01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:27.960
exactly the way that they went,
So there are there were different There are

1598
01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:31.680
different routes you can take for the
tour, right and depending on how busy

1599
01:55:31.720 --> 01:55:39.319
of a day it is. And
if you go a B route you go

1600
01:55:39.680 --> 01:55:44.319
so normally you always hit when you
get up to the main main concourse,

1601
01:55:45.159 --> 01:55:50.960
you always hit Muhammad Ali, Joe
Frasier first. That's always that's always a

1602
01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:56.239
thing, right. If you're doing
an A route, you go down one

1603
01:55:56.279 --> 01:56:03.760
side and you hit the and you
hit Gretzki. You go the other way

1604
01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:09.760
and you hit WrestleMania one and they
got Hogan. They got Hogan, Hogan

1605
01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:16.439
shirt, pipers, boots and whatever. Yeah, absolutely phenomenal, great insight.

1606
01:56:16.479 --> 01:56:19.119
In any case, our tour continued
to some of the locker rooms and

1607
01:56:19.159 --> 01:56:23.479
arena floor, where I pictured such
events as Hogan pinning iron cheek to inaugurate

1608
01:56:23.479 --> 01:56:27.239
the era, Hulkamania, Liz removing
her skirt to help the Megapowers to victory

1609
01:56:27.279 --> 01:56:30.680
at the original Summer Slam in the
ladder, Yes politically teetering above a prone

1610
01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:32.920
Razor Ramon and Shawn Michaels of WrestleMania
ten. As a tour ended, I

1611
01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:36.560
left someone unsatisfied regarding the lack of
acknowledgment of the Royle wrestlings played in the

1612
01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:40.319
Arida's history. However, I reminded
myself that I would be back in a

1613
01:56:40.359 --> 01:56:44.039
few hours for the concert and could
thus conclude my own tour privately. When

1614
01:56:44.079 --> 01:56:45.800
I returned that night, I arrived
early so I could view the remaining showcases.

1615
01:56:45.800 --> 01:56:48.319
There were three or four I hadn't
yet seen. I excitedly found them,

1616
01:56:48.399 --> 01:56:51.840
but one by whole was disappointed.
Oh, with only one left.

1617
01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:55.319
The outlook was grim. But as
I walked up to it, I noticed

1618
01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:57.880
a gload of the red and yellow
there we go. As I approached it

1619
01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:00.399
with my son, I realized all
my efforts it paid off. That featured

1620
01:57:00.439 --> 01:57:04.159
hul Cogan memorabilia, tights, shirt
belt, as well as WrestleMania one artifacts,

1621
01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:08.119
Piper's boots, commotial poster, et
cetera. Yes, I had that

1622
01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:10.560
warm feeling I used to get thirty
years ago. And after weeks of searching,

1623
01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:14.199
I finally located that long lost Colisseum
home video at some remote walk Pastore,

1624
01:57:14.479 --> 01:57:17.119
New Hasbro figure to Sketchy Toys r
Us. I've included a photo below.

1625
01:57:17.319 --> 01:57:20.319
It was nice to see the great
history of ww wrestling at the Garden

1626
01:57:20.359 --> 01:57:25.479
acknowledged appropriately up in the I'm surprised
too that what are you gonna say?

1627
01:57:25.960 --> 01:57:28.000
I was just going to continue with
the email go ahead. Oh, I

1628
01:57:28.039 --> 01:57:30.800
was on one thing too, I'm
I'm I don't know if he if he

1629
01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:35.359
if he mentioned this, but on
the tour, you're supposed to go down

1630
01:57:35.359 --> 01:57:43.359
a hallway up in the up in
the suites, and of course, granted

1631
01:57:43.399 --> 01:57:49.439
you never know, sometimes they skip
the luxury suites and they go to the

1632
01:57:49.079 --> 01:57:53.399
the upper tier suites, depending on
you know, because sometimes you can't.

1633
01:57:53.439 --> 01:57:56.720
They don't want people on, yeah, depending on what's going on. But

1634
01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:06.600
there's also a picture of Hogan Tea
and Liberaci in in the main suite area,

1635
01:58:08.359 --> 01:58:14.319
and I used to stop people there
a lot, and until my tour

1636
01:58:14.399 --> 01:58:15.279
was starting to run along, and
then I cut it out. But I

1637
01:58:15.359 --> 01:58:21.079
used to always try to actually build
up the pro wrestling element of Madison Square

1638
01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:26.479
Garden and talk about absolutely that that
would be the time where I would bring

1639
01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:33.079
in I would talk about WrestleMania,
but then I would also talk about brunos

1640
01:58:33.079 --> 01:58:40.680
Ha Martino and I talk about his
the record, the record, the record,

1641
01:58:40.800 --> 01:58:45.760
yeah ye, the records sellout.
And then also the first the first

1642
01:58:45.800 --> 01:58:56.720
time that that wrestling was held at
at Madison Square Garden, which was years

1643
01:58:56.760 --> 01:59:01.640
prior, the centuries prior. Those
people got a lot more bang for their

1644
01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:05.039
buck. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean I also gave I mean,

1645
01:59:05.079 --> 01:59:09.600
listen, I don't I don't mind
saying I I gave a fucking kick

1646
01:59:09.640 --> 01:59:14.520
ass tour exactly what I got more
than more than a handful of compliments from

1647
01:59:15.319 --> 01:59:20.640
from uh other employees who would be
walking around the concourse in the arena and

1648
01:59:20.720 --> 01:59:29.000
catch me doing my thing. Excellent
brother, I was I love joy impression.

1649
01:59:29.279 --> 01:59:31.479
Yeah, yes, that's what I
thought. Yes, And it made

1650
01:59:31.520 --> 01:59:36.800
people very uncomfortable because it's like,
it's like, what the fun was a

1651
01:59:36.800 --> 01:59:40.199
lot of times, yeah, because
keep in mind, it's a lot of

1652
01:59:40.239 --> 01:59:45.920
people are are very a lot of
a lot of uh tourists from other countries

1653
01:59:46.600 --> 01:59:56.199
don't do who yes, who don't? Yes exactly, like right, sloud

1654
01:59:56.279 --> 02:00:00.279
and floush and all that. Yeah, you know, flash Still it's just

1655
02:00:00.319 --> 02:00:06.520
sisky and you're scaring much very nervous. I'm screaming at them, you know,

1656
02:00:08.920 --> 02:00:13.520
fucking terrorizing these people, and they're
like, oh god, so many,

1657
02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:18.640
so many, so many times you
think you know, you're trying to

1658
02:00:20.039 --> 02:00:24.720
because you work obviously, you work
your punchlines a lot in those things.

1659
02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:29.279
Oh yeah. And it's like,
you know, if you get a group

1660
02:00:29.359 --> 02:00:35.199
that just speaks littleton zero English,
oh my god, it's so fucking funny

1661
02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:42.560
to have jokes just completely bomb,
completely bomb, and I'd go into my

1662
02:00:42.680 --> 02:00:47.960
fucking crazy I would get so intense
during the uh the Muhammad Ali shit,

1663
02:00:48.199 --> 02:00:53.399
like just go fucking crazy, like
talking about how you know, this is

1664
02:00:53.439 --> 02:00:57.319
America, so obviously you have to
obviously you have to make a sequel to

1665
02:00:57.359 --> 02:01:00.680
make more Mondy, they have to
have Fraser Ali two. All right,

1666
02:01:00.720 --> 02:01:03.000
this is you know, and then
and then and then look, if you

1667
02:01:03.119 --> 02:01:06.359
got two, you gotta have three. You gotta have a rubber match.

1668
02:01:06.520 --> 02:01:12.039
I actually say would say rubber match
in my tour, And and people was

1669
02:01:12.079 --> 02:01:19.119
fucking sitting there like what is wrong
with this animal? David concludes one final

1670
02:01:19.199 --> 02:01:21.680
humorous note. At the entrance to
the garden, there is a Walk of

1671
02:01:21.720 --> 02:01:25.920
Fame, similar to the Hollywood version, but featuring those athletes and performers that

1672
02:01:25.960 --> 02:01:29.880
have contributed significantly in the history of
success. Yes, I searched for any

1673
02:01:29.920 --> 02:01:32.680
wrestling related individual to be immortalized along
the lights of Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan,

1674
02:01:32.760 --> 02:01:36.920
and the Rolling Stones and found the
one and only Yes AND's McMahon.

1675
02:01:36.960 --> 02:01:40.319
So honor, Yes, Yes,
indeed. Do you think that's still there?

1676
02:01:40.399 --> 02:01:45.800
Pal? I imagine that it might
be being removed as we speak.

1677
02:01:45.079 --> 02:01:48.560
However, I chuckled as I read
the central bronze plaque describing the qualifications for

1678
02:01:48.600 --> 02:01:51.479
induction, which dates that each person
is honored with a plaque that designates the

1679
02:01:51.520 --> 02:01:57.319
performance category broadcasting, boxing, baseball, basketball, hockey, track and field,

1680
02:01:57.359 --> 02:02:01.000
tennis, skating, music circus in
which their contributions have been made,

1681
02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:04.239
with wrestling not specifically listed, I
naturally assumed he was included out of the

1682
02:02:04.239 --> 02:02:08.560
category of circus Fergus. Yes,
indeed, thanks again for reading and help

1683
02:02:08.560 --> 02:02:13.239
you enjoy the photos we did and
you remember too, I posted this back

1684
02:02:13.439 --> 02:02:15.680
in the day, so when I
first started working there. So if you

1685
02:02:15.760 --> 02:02:21.359
walked in the UH, there's an
employee section where you have to kind of

1686
02:02:21.479 --> 02:02:24.960
check in. Yeah, when you
get to the When you get there,

1687
02:02:25.800 --> 02:02:29.640
and I would go, so you
walk along, they had kind of these

1688
02:02:29.760 --> 02:02:35.279
murals on the the UH, the
cinder block walls, you know, like

1689
02:02:35.319 --> 02:02:41.039
they painted them and stuff, And
there was a Hulk Hogan forever there.

1690
02:02:41.399 --> 02:02:49.199
Hulk Hogan was there forever. And
then one day I was walking in to

1691
02:02:49.399 --> 02:02:58.479
check in and Hulk Hogan wasn't there
anymore. It was John Cena. That's

1692
02:02:58.600 --> 02:03:03.840
fucking amazing. I think I tweeted
that photo amazing. That's right. Actually

1693
02:03:03.920 --> 02:03:08.079
I'm sitting here thinking about it and
I thought that was our bit, but

1694
02:03:08.159 --> 02:03:12.760
that actually happened. No, that
that actually happened where they replaced Hull Cogan

1695
02:03:13.159 --> 02:03:17.760
with John Cena. Incredible, such
a and it's like it's the same exact

1696
02:03:17.800 --> 02:03:24.119
pose that that whole Cogan, the
whole Cogan painting was in, but it

1697
02:03:24.159 --> 02:03:30.560
was just now John Cena, unreal, oh Man. So many wonderful things

1698
02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:34.600
like that over ten years. It's
a remarkable mm. Thanks for the pledge.

1699
02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:38.560
We appreciate your support on Patreon.
Same to you, Matthew Gundaker for

1700
02:03:38.640 --> 02:03:43.520
increasing your pledge. We deep deeply
appreciate the vote of confidence. Matt White,

1701
02:03:43.560 --> 02:03:46.680
Thank you very much for the cake. Andy Savage and Richie Sombrero,

1702
02:03:47.039 --> 02:03:50.840
Fred dan Stroge. I like that, Andy Savage, Andy Sam Matro Man,

1703
02:03:53.039 --> 02:03:57.039
Fred Denstorff, thank you very much. We want to thank Shane Canning

1704
02:03:57.319 --> 02:04:02.079
and John Maggio, and we want
to thank folks like Wiretap eight oh four

1705
02:04:02.560 --> 02:04:06.720
for the support. I see you, Zach going up to the moat tier.

1706
02:04:06.800 --> 02:04:11.000
We deeply appreciate that. Joseph al
Pag thank you very much. And

1707
02:04:11.119 --> 02:04:18.039
Nick Osipoff and Sean and Sam fram
Michigan and akmar Javed and Shane Sinclair and

1708
02:04:18.119 --> 02:04:25.560
Matt Adams and Graveyard Entertainment rock solid
supporter of the solar system, always putting

1709
02:04:25.560 --> 02:04:28.560
positive vibes out there. We appreciate
you very much. Rob Williams, thank

1710
02:04:28.600 --> 02:04:32.560
you Derek Reeve, thank you Danny
Ankoevu a fucking one k superstar keeping that

1711
02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:36.479
strong pledge. Jamie Skeen and I
want to thank Russ, and want to

1712
02:04:36.479 --> 02:04:44.199
thank nick E. And we need
to thank Matthew Seltzer and as well as

1713
02:04:44.199 --> 02:04:49.840
Matthew still we need to thank Brian
Sours and Tony Medhurst and r k All.

1714
02:04:49.880 --> 02:04:55.119
These people know who they are,
but they need to know that we

1715
02:04:55.199 --> 02:04:58.359
know who they are as well.
That's right, Carlos Stallion writes, My

1716
02:04:58.399 --> 02:05:00.920
gorgeous, long suffering wife was considering
a logo design. She has started working

1717
02:05:00.920 --> 02:05:04.199
transport in the local film industry after
a lifetime of trauma working in the child

1718
02:05:04.199 --> 02:05:09.199
welfare system. She's a newly minted
IATZI member and loves working on productions and

1719
02:05:09.239 --> 02:05:12.760
learning the industry. The current strike
had a direct effect on her career prospects.

1720
02:05:12.760 --> 02:05:15.640
This is back during the Hollywood strikes. Yes, she has taken it

1721
02:05:15.680 --> 02:05:18.359
picking up part time shifts with Canada
Post driving mail trucks. It's a pay

1722
02:05:18.439 --> 02:05:20.720
cut at a job she does not
enjoy or care about. She wants to

1723
02:05:20.760 --> 02:05:24.840
invest in her own crafty catering truck
to work on film productions as well.

1724
02:05:25.039 --> 02:05:27.840
So She was musing about a logo
use AI. It's awesome, mikesed great

1725
02:05:27.840 --> 02:05:30.239
logos, says I all impetuous.
Mmmm. This point I could hear a

1726
02:05:30.239 --> 02:05:32.960
faint snapping sound. I think a
wire sprung in her brain because she begin

1727
02:05:33.039 --> 02:05:36.119
a TI rate in slow crescendo,
cutting a moving, stirring, angry promo,

1728
02:05:36.199 --> 02:05:40.760
grieving about how AI is a direct
threat to her livelihood and career,

1729
02:05:41.199 --> 02:05:44.079
how people are suffering, how an
industry is at risk of collapsing, and

1730
02:05:44.199 --> 02:05:46.399
thousands of people artists, support staff, trades, people, hard work and

1731
02:05:46.439 --> 02:05:50.760
common people are at risk of falling
into economic crises hard times, baby,

1732
02:05:50.800 --> 02:05:56.159
I add, hmm, with enthusiasm. People can't pay their wages, Daddy,

1733
02:05:56.680 --> 02:05:59.439
I'm on board with their sentiments.
I share her concerns. I feel

1734
02:05:59.439 --> 02:06:05.439
the amass on if looks could kill. Are you being stupid right now?

1735
02:06:05.439 --> 02:06:09.680
What the fuck is wrong with you? She says, yes, walks out

1736
02:06:09.720 --> 02:06:15.000
and slams the door. Sham,
be very careful about working yourself into a

1737
02:06:15.039 --> 02:06:19.000
shoot. Solar System members, Brother
Joe and some others had to point this

1738
02:06:19.039 --> 02:06:24.720
out. There was an article in
a newspaper in Australia called The Age that

1739
02:06:24.800 --> 02:06:29.840
said the following this is about the
ww coming to Perth for the Elimination Chamber

1740
02:06:29.880 --> 02:06:34.800
coming up this month. The promoter, headquartered in Connecticut, facilitates shows which

1741
02:06:34.840 --> 02:06:41.359
are not legitimate contests, but entertainment
based partially choreographed performance theater. Brother,

1742
02:06:42.520 --> 02:06:47.760
I repeat, not legitimate contests,
but just just not to make this too

1743
02:06:47.760 --> 02:06:56.239
wordy, entertainment based partially choreographed performance
theater. Take that. I don't see

1744
02:06:56.279 --> 02:07:00.560
what the problem is that in Women
of the WWE broadcast in more than one

1745
02:07:00.600 --> 02:07:02.600
million homes globally, so thanks to
Joe for pointing that out. Thanks for

1746
02:07:02.680 --> 02:07:08.560
Tim writing LAPS editor in Australia.
Though I was love when the fucking alarm

1747
02:07:08.600 --> 02:07:14.039
bells go, always great to see, Nick writes to us. It was

1748
02:07:14.079 --> 02:07:15.640
when I realized I'm just as embarrassed
to listen to you guys in front of

1749
02:07:15.640 --> 02:07:18.439
my wife as I am to watch
wrestling in front of her. Yes,

1750
02:07:18.520 --> 02:07:21.279
that I finally accepted the fact that
you guys are so far above and beyond

1751
02:07:21.279 --> 02:07:26.520
all the wrestling podcasts it's not even
fair keep giving me what I need.

1752
02:07:26.880 --> 02:07:30.119
That's right, we are that guilty
pleasure. Robert writes Coach Heirs, long

1753
02:07:30.159 --> 02:07:33.600
time listener, first time emailer,
just discovered that hul Cogan is selling vapes.

1754
02:07:34.079 --> 02:07:36.840
Brother, I would love to hear
in the show how you think he

1755
02:07:36.880 --> 02:07:40.439
would sell these? No need to
roll up tobacco anymore, dude, who

1756
02:07:40.479 --> 02:07:46.439
you've been smoking with? Keep up
the good work. But A wall say

1757
02:07:46.520 --> 02:07:48.840
vape? You mean? What do
you mean selling? Dude? Who's selling?

1758
02:07:48.920 --> 02:07:54.840
Dude? I'm on, brother,
I want selling vape? Dude?

1759
02:07:55.079 --> 02:07:57.840
Are you about selling it for Vader? Brother? I'm not selling for Vader?

1760
02:07:57.920 --> 02:08:11.279
Dude? Is that what you do? I don't understand WHOA. Let's

1761
02:08:11.319 --> 02:08:18.079
come back, Yeah, all right, let's kind of let's get this thing

1762
02:08:18.239 --> 02:08:22.319
back on track, dude, And
I want to understand exactly what it is

1763
02:08:22.760 --> 02:08:37.600
that you're trying to say when you
say vape? Mhm, are you what

1764
02:08:37.640 --> 02:08:46.640
do you? WHOA? You have
to remember the key to Hogan is that

1765
02:08:48.560 --> 02:08:54.439
his brain's working faster than he can
say words. He's he's making he's making

1766
02:08:54.520 --> 02:08:58.760
logical leaps. You know. Yes, he's got like you know, you

1767
02:08:58.760 --> 02:09:03.760
know one one one moment right here, like one thought, has a got

1768
02:09:03.840 --> 02:09:15.640
about fifteen possible you know, next
moves? And I just I just want

1769
02:09:15.640 --> 02:09:18.039
to know exactly what is So I'm
willing to be honest with you, brother,

1770
02:09:18.199 --> 02:09:22.399
I'm willing to tell you exactly what
is you want to know. I

1771
02:09:22.439 --> 02:09:28.680
just don't know what is that you
want to know. So, so when

1772
02:09:28.680 --> 02:09:33.119
you talk about selling vapes, what
do you mean by what? What is

1773
02:09:33.159 --> 02:09:35.479
a vape? Dude? Is a
vapor? What do you mean by vape?

1774
02:09:35.520 --> 02:09:41.239
Brother? What is vape? Vapor? Big van vapor, befo water

1775
02:09:41.359 --> 02:09:46.640
vapor, hydro fuel cells. I'm
not digging big van vapor? Brother.

1776
02:09:48.000 --> 02:09:50.920
Brother. You know, hydrogen fuel
cells aren't zero emission, right, Dude?

1777
02:09:50.640 --> 02:09:54.560
If they suck in polluted air and
they're going to admit it, probably

1778
02:09:54.000 --> 02:09:56.359
this is not so. I mean, I'm talking to you. You know,

1779
02:09:56.399 --> 02:10:01.680
we're talking about and we're talking about
about climate change. Now, dude,

1780
02:10:01.680 --> 02:10:03.119
do you got to increase those axles? Dude? How does that not

1781
02:10:03.199 --> 02:10:07.319
emit? Are you like? Do
you check? I don't know about where

1782
02:10:07.399 --> 02:10:11.920
you live, brother, but we
have to call it check exactly where where

1783
02:10:11.960 --> 02:10:20.840
we're at? Where our emissions?
You know, admissions to emissions. And

1784
02:10:20.960 --> 02:10:28.199
you know I'm as equally concerned of
about emissions as I am admissions to the

1785
02:10:28.279 --> 02:10:31.720
arena. Brother. Right, you
talk about global warming, dude, I

1786
02:10:31.720 --> 02:10:39.079
mean I'm talking about global audiences.
I think we canna leave it there because

1787
02:10:39.159 --> 02:10:43.640
it reached the point where they're like, let's go down in the Hogan climate

1788
02:10:43.720 --> 02:10:48.720
change route. And what brought that
to an abrupt end the fact that I

1789
02:10:48.720 --> 02:10:54.079
said global and then he says global
audiences, and then it's like, okay,

1790
02:10:54.119 --> 02:11:01.399
well that's it. That's the end
logical conclusion that this probably belonged the

1791
02:11:01.439 --> 02:11:03.720
laps Trunk portion. But Neil writes, Dorry Senior's wife was named Dorothy.

1792
02:11:03.880 --> 02:11:13.560
Is that short for Doriance? No, would be Dorothans. Actually is what

1793
02:11:13.560 --> 02:11:18.720
it would be? Dorothan's Ronaldi.
Many thought Terry's y Vicky was short for

1794
02:11:18.840 --> 02:11:30.119
Victoria, but it's actually Vickians,
Vickens, Vickens. Oh yeah, you

1795
02:11:30.239 --> 02:11:33.840
know, I shot there with Vickens, and we going way back and we're

1796
02:11:33.880 --> 02:11:43.680
there with Doncan and Dorothan's and and
the sitting there and something with the Caroardly

1797
02:11:43.800 --> 02:11:50.399
Lions and then the tin Woodman's and
just doing the whole damn thing. Howardly

1798
02:11:50.520 --> 02:11:56.000
Lion is that whole Cogan? What
do you why do you even say that?

1799
02:11:56.039 --> 02:11:58.000
Brother? What are beyond the mad
episode of under the Cinemat, of

1800
02:11:58.039 --> 02:12:01.119
course, brought to you as part
of the Lapsed Funk some great comments,

1801
02:12:01.159 --> 02:12:05.960
including Adam, who writes much better
than Barry's follow up film, which chronicled

1802
02:12:05.000 --> 02:12:09.039
pm News, Abdullah the Butcher,
one Man, Gang Yoka's Innovador, and

1803
02:12:09.039 --> 02:12:13.199
a few other rotund wrestlers as they
travel cross country discovering the best food and

1804
02:12:13.239 --> 02:12:30.199
each other. Beyond the fact,
I would absolutely want to be part of

1805
02:12:30.239 --> 02:12:35.479
a documentary that just follows heavy wrestlers
in their diet on the road, you

1806
02:12:35.520 --> 02:12:37.239
know, Like I would just want
to do a dog just about the meals,

1807
02:12:37.680 --> 02:12:41.039
you know, I would. I
just want to see them fucking yeah,

1808
02:12:41.079 --> 02:12:43.279
like, what what is their solution
to hunger? Right? Because they

1809
02:12:43.279 --> 02:12:46.880
don't have they have no options,
and they have no time, so they

1810
02:12:46.920 --> 02:12:50.800
absolutely have to make it count when
they sit down, right, Yeah,

1811
02:12:50.880 --> 02:12:54.720
you have to think about how much
more calories a fucking rakishi or a yah.

1812
02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:58.880
Yeah, and we're talking about I
mean while flying around, are you

1813
02:12:58.960 --> 02:13:05.760
kidding? Six six thousand calories?
Probably these guys are meeting right needing right.

1814
02:13:05.880 --> 02:13:09.159
I mean they let him, they
let him out, they let him

1815
02:13:09.159 --> 02:13:11.239
into the restaurant out back, they
let him into the fucking freezer locker,

1816
02:13:11.279 --> 02:13:16.119
you know, they just like feed
him in there. Yeah, right,

1817
02:13:16.159 --> 02:13:20.720
I mean you're better off doing that
anyway, Andrew right on the cinemat love

1818
02:13:20.760 --> 02:13:22.159
this movie. My uncle took me
and my cousin to see this the day

1819
02:13:22.159 --> 02:13:26.920
it came out. Oddly, Michael
passed away earlier today. So all right,

1820
02:13:26.920 --> 02:13:28.840
p uncle Sonny, thanks for taking
me to this and all those baseball

1821
02:13:28.880 --> 02:13:33.680
and hockey games. Yes, rest
in peace, Uncle Sonny. Thank you.

1822
02:13:33.720 --> 02:13:37.920
Jim writes, Oh God, about
an hour and I'm physically uncomfortable at

1823
02:13:37.920 --> 02:13:43.520
the thought of Barry's birthday. Oh
can you imagine this stuff of nightmares?

1824
02:13:43.960 --> 02:13:48.079
As a lapsed fan. I still
can't deal with it, and it's been

1825
02:13:48.680 --> 02:13:52.079
weeks months since we talked about it. Months. I can't sit here and

1826
02:13:52.119 --> 02:13:56.479
think about I mean, I think
about honestly, you know, you know,

1827
02:13:56.600 --> 02:14:05.119
the the only equivalent that I have
is is at my bachelor party when

1828
02:14:05.119 --> 02:14:11.399
my dad brought out the wrestling toys. Oh, Virgil wasn't even as bad.

1829
02:14:11.640 --> 02:14:16.199
Virgil wasn't even that wasn't Virgil was
horrifying. But like, my dad

1830
02:14:16.239 --> 02:14:24.479
bring out the the fucking wrestling toys
and my makeshift cage, like that was

1831
02:14:24.520 --> 02:14:28.640
a fucking like, oh shit,
my dad, there are real people here,

1832
02:14:30.039 --> 02:14:39.359
Oh, you know people, how
fucking mortifying. Here's his toys.

1833
02:14:39.760 --> 02:14:43.600
Here's yes, here's his wrestling toys. It's wrong with you, Oh my

1834
02:14:43.640 --> 02:14:50.600
god, with us? I know
that's the problem. Brian reminds us that

1835
02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:54.920
if Patreon isn't your thing, you
can always leave a tip in the digital

1836
02:14:54.960 --> 02:14:58.359
tip Jar. Just open up your
PayPal and type in the lapsed fan at

1837
02:14:58.359 --> 02:15:00.920
gmail dot com and you can send
us a one off payment that way.

1838
02:15:00.920 --> 02:15:03.920
Brian is such a great trooper and
such a wonderful listener over the years,

1839
02:15:03.960 --> 02:15:07.720
and he always yes, he is
so considerate. You know, he sends

1840
02:15:07.760 --> 02:15:09.960
us a little cake to get through
some premium live events or is it?

1841
02:15:11.039 --> 02:15:13.239
PL's it here for having to sit
through that shit card and the ripoff finish

1842
02:15:13.239 --> 02:15:18.039
of Rocky two in the main event. So we love the support, and

1843
02:15:18.119 --> 02:15:22.560
we love support from Narjar and Calvin
Trevor and Tim Murphy and Matthew Munns and

1844
02:15:22.640 --> 02:15:28.680
Jacob Steele and Adam Schwartz and Phil
Becker and Cody Hinkel and Stephen Lowry and

1845
02:15:28.800 --> 02:15:35.439
Chris and Dean Wolfe and Alan Garcia
and Andy Martin and Christopher Zella and Trevor

1846
02:15:35.439 --> 02:15:39.319
O'Donnell and Casey and Derrek Reid and
Rich Moulton. You mad yet, by

1847
02:15:39.359 --> 02:15:43.279
the way, Chris Maldonno, And
we love Scott Suddy and his support.

1848
02:15:43.279 --> 02:15:50.119
And we love Brandon Tillotson and Sackster
and Pat Sullivan and Riki Sarnaga sagar Naga

1849
02:15:50.359 --> 02:15:56.000
and Tony Hannah and Tony Strong Style
will take it. Thank you very much,

1850
02:15:56.119 --> 02:16:00.000
BLD. Thanks for the cake.
Mark Simpson, Nick E Jack Gillespie,

1851
02:15:58.880 --> 02:16:03.399
I go on, I will,
I can't go on, I'll go

1852
02:16:03.439 --> 02:16:09.800
on. Michael shop pinballa Narjar again
upping the pledge. Hilton, Jonathan Clark,

1853
02:16:11.439 --> 02:16:16.800
murphyer, I think is the way
to pronounce that Ben Brown, Folks,

1854
02:16:16.840 --> 02:16:20.479
the proof is in yes. Dean
writes, It's funny to hear about

1855
02:16:20.520 --> 02:16:24.159
the wrestling coach who became a pro
wrestling promoter. I did youth wrestling when

1856
02:16:24.159 --> 02:16:26.439
I was in elementary school, and
I remember that at the beginning of the

1857
02:16:26.439 --> 02:16:28.920
first practice, I attended the coach
that this isn't like the wrestling you see

1858
02:16:28.960 --> 02:16:33.000
on TV. Right. A few
months later, my phys ed teacher started

1859
02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:35.760
a unit on Greco Roman wrestling and
yelled, if I see you doing any

1860
02:16:35.799 --> 02:16:39.200
that WWF, I'm going to WWF
you right out of this room. Wow.

1861
02:16:39.319 --> 02:16:41.799
As wrestling coaches really had to make
it a point that they don't tolerate

1862
02:16:41.840 --> 02:16:45.040
that fake shit. Yeah, well, that's the only reason anybody showed up,

1863
02:16:45.040 --> 02:16:50.559
so they had to immediately dispel people
of that notion so they didn't feel

1864
02:16:50.600 --> 02:16:52.239
like they were sold a bag of
goods. I'd imagine a bill of goods.

1865
02:16:52.280 --> 02:16:56.680
I should say, yep. This
is a nice moment, pointed out

1866
02:16:56.799 --> 02:17:00.159
in the spirit of TLFX by Adam
on Patreon episode two thirty three, which

1867
02:17:00.200 --> 02:17:05.520
is WWSWS Rustled Dream Part two an
hour ten minutes into an hour thirteen minutes,

1868
02:17:05.559 --> 02:17:11.879
Hogan accuses Jack of trying to talk
to Yoshiaki Yatsu. Jack denies this.

1869
02:17:13.959 --> 02:17:18.639
Hogan claims that the denial is proof
Jack had indeed spoken to the future

1870
02:17:18.680 --> 02:17:22.760
Pride Fighter. Yes, Jack warily
retorts that he only wants a Japanese gatorade.

1871
02:17:24.319 --> 02:17:28.959
Brother, nonplused, the future star
of a celeb sex tape suggests Jack

1872
02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:33.920
tried the Yunagi flavored one, then, without missing a beat, immediately asks

1873
02:17:33.959 --> 02:17:41.799
the erstwhile accused, to get him
one to drink two. After Jack leaves,

1874
02:17:41.360 --> 02:17:50.879
Hogan suspiciously asks him if he's going
to talk to Yatsu. Great shit,

1875
02:17:52.079 --> 02:17:56.360
that's really funny. That's really fucking
wacky. In the archives, oh

1876
02:17:56.440 --> 02:18:00.600
yeah, oh my god, Haystacks
were at a great list from from the

1877
02:18:00.719 --> 02:18:03.600
Archives presenting. I'm going to give
you this. You know, of course,

1878
02:18:05.520 --> 02:18:09.959
the Lamentable tragedy, right, yes, yes, Heaven needed okay,

1879
02:18:09.959 --> 02:18:13.879
Heaven needed a champion. But we
also have said over the years, because

1880
02:18:13.920 --> 02:18:16.680
that sparked it, Heaven needed a
blank. Heaven needed a blank. We

1881
02:18:16.760 --> 02:18:22.559
did that for years after the Lamentable
Oh yeah, and using that lapsed archive

1882
02:18:22.639 --> 02:18:28.680
transcription service lats on Patreon, folks
supported on patreos, he went through and

1883
02:18:28.719 --> 02:18:35.719
found all of the things that Heaven
is needed and most of the things Heaven

1884
02:18:35.760 --> 02:18:43.959
has needed on TLF go ahead,
a champion, Yeah, sure it,

1885
02:18:48.719 --> 02:18:56.280
Oh man, can you have mischief
with that one? An ass whipping a

1886
02:18:56.360 --> 02:19:11.440
lapsed fan. But on tracked,
Heaven needed monetization. That again, Heaven

1887
02:19:11.520 --> 02:19:22.600
needed first last and security said that
Heaven needed a deposit. Heaven needed a

1888
02:19:22.680 --> 02:19:35.000
stuffed trunk. Heaven needed an African
champion. This was a fucking great.

1889
02:19:35.040 --> 02:19:45.159
Heaven needed a boneer boner, okay, a boner. Heaven needed a van

1890
02:19:45.360 --> 02:19:56.639
Eric in the sixth man. Heaven
needed a soundstage, Heaven needed an upper

1891
02:19:56.280 --> 02:20:07.000
Yeah. Heaven needed a downer.
Heaven needed a quelude. Heaven needed a

1892
02:20:07.040 --> 02:20:16.840
placidyl. Yes, Heaven needed a
crack. Heaven needed eleven million dollars that

1893
02:20:16.959 --> 02:20:20.319
sure, did we all did it? Yes. Heaven needed a parade of

1894
02:20:20.440 --> 02:20:30.680
champions. Heaven needed a cringe.
Heaven needed a doppel Ganger. Heaven needed

1895
02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:39.799
a novelty songwriter. Heaven needed a
car salesman. Heaven needed a forty five.

1896
02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:52.799
Heaven needed my Mom. Heaven needed
a stick man. Heaven needed a

1897
02:20:52.920 --> 02:21:05.799
kid what kidney? Heaven needed a
rebate yea. Heaven needed a temperature controlled

1898
02:21:05.879 --> 02:21:18.120
service the magic of lats. Heaven
needed me to hashtag me too. Uh.

1899
02:21:18.600 --> 02:21:26.360
Heaven needed some get discussed. Heaven
needed some Heaven needed Downtown Dallas.

1900
02:21:28.000 --> 02:21:37.600
Heaven needed a footless man. Heaven
needed a deep dive. Heaven needed a

1901
02:21:37.719 --> 02:21:54.000
social media manager. Heaven needed a
delicacy. Haven't needed a bodega. Heaven

1902
02:21:54.280 --> 02:22:03.639
needed a Sullivan. Yes, Heaven
needed a ring rat. Heaven needed a

1903
02:22:03.920 --> 02:22:16.239
fucking duck corpse. Hm. Heaven
needed a skillet That's for sure. Heaven

1904
02:22:16.319 --> 02:22:24.360
needed pins and submissions to count in
a battle royal. Heaven needed a slatin

1905
02:22:26.040 --> 02:22:35.959
Heaven needed a mama. Haven't needed
Kamala. Heaven needed kamama. Oh my

1906
02:22:37.040 --> 02:22:45.040
God. Heaven needed a clean floor
or a pair of shoes. Heaven needed

1907
02:22:45.040 --> 02:22:50.159
a rhythm. Heaven needed a beat. Heaven needed a Glen goes away.

1908
02:22:52.639 --> 02:23:00.280
Heaven needed a recording studio in Texas
to get hit by lightning. Heaven needed

1909
02:23:00.280 --> 02:23:05.959
a penis baby. Heaven needed a
false narrative. Yeah, that's for sure.

1910
02:23:05.360 --> 02:23:11.760
Heaven needed a father figure. Oh
Jesus. Heaven needed a patriarch.

1911
02:23:13.159 --> 02:23:18.319
Heaven needed a referee. Heaven needed
another spectator in that great wrestling arena in

1912
02:23:18.360 --> 02:23:26.559
the sky, another one. Heaven
needed a mang meng. Oh. Heaven

1913
02:23:26.600 --> 02:23:43.879
needed a fabrication. Heaven needed a
perspiration. Heaven needed a cock. Heaven

1914
02:23:45.000 --> 02:23:50.520
needed penetration. Yes, yes,
Heaven needed the von Erics to bang their

1915
02:23:50.559 --> 02:23:58.079
teachers. Wow. Heaven needed a
reugh break. Heaven needed a better ticket

1916
02:23:58.120 --> 02:24:05.760
sales on this particular night. Heaven
needed a foot. Heaven needed fruit by

1917
02:24:05.840 --> 02:24:13.920
the foot episode. Imagine I imagine
someone said, yeah, I haven't needed

1918
02:24:13.920 --> 02:24:16.799
a foot, and then one of
us responded, yeah, haven't needed fruit

1919
02:24:16.840 --> 02:24:20.799
by the foot. That would I
imagine that happened. Heaven needed a walking

1920
02:24:20.840 --> 02:24:28.760
boot, even needed a big boot. Heaven needed a nut. Heaven needed

1921
02:24:28.799 --> 02:24:41.959
to busts a nut. Even needed
negativity. Heaven needed cynicism. Heaven needed

1922
02:24:41.559 --> 02:24:54.559
one more and the following our non
tlf heavenly needs I guess. Heaven did

1923
02:24:54.600 --> 02:25:01.760
not need a pussy. Heaven did
not need my fucking pussy say we say

1924
02:25:01.760 --> 02:25:09.079
at certain points. Heaven did not
need I guess that's the thing need my

1925
02:25:11.719 --> 02:25:18.600
Heaven did not need my twat that's
right. Heaven did not need more than

1926
02:25:18.680 --> 02:25:24.719
one champion. Heaven did not need
a few. Heaven did not need a

1927
02:25:24.799 --> 02:25:33.040
face sitter Heaven. Heaven did not
need a patron. Heaven did not need

1928
02:25:33.319 --> 02:25:46.040
enterritis. Heaven did not need an
eight time champion. Heaven did not need

1929
02:25:46.079 --> 02:25:52.360
a flat back. Heaven did not
need a good boy. Heaven did not

1930
02:25:52.559 --> 02:26:00.799
need a Christmas Special. Heaven did
not need a Scott Hall. Heaven did

1931
02:26:00.799 --> 02:26:09.639
not need an investor. Heaven did
not need an MC. Heaven did not

1932
02:26:09.840 --> 02:26:18.200
need exclamations like that. Heaven did
not need a first intercontinental champion. Heaven

1933
02:26:18.280 --> 02:26:26.399
did not need a Ugandan giant.
Heaven did not need this kind of dad.

1934
02:26:31.920 --> 02:26:37.600
Heaven did not need a hearthouse.
Heaven did not need a parent.

1935
02:26:39.600 --> 02:26:43.040
That is fucking phenomenal. That's a
great ship. That's on a whole different

1936
02:26:43.120 --> 02:26:48.639
level of Yes, yes it is. Oh patreon dot com slash lats lats

1937
02:26:48.879 --> 02:26:52.760
to get in on the fun and
support the folks and hard work. It's

1938
02:26:52.920 --> 02:26:58.159
fucking hilarious. Oh my god,
that's fucking my complete list of heaven needed,

1939
02:26:58.680 --> 02:27:03.399
speak of complete lists. We need
to think is Jerome Cussen, Bobby

1940
02:27:03.440 --> 02:27:09.479
was Soobby, Eric Lapsed Fan,
Marv Clinton Nelson, Richie McCormick, Rudy

1941
02:27:09.520 --> 02:27:16.879
Casserras, longtime supporter, Sawmon l
A, Cody Davis, Nick Lombardy,

1942
02:27:18.239 --> 02:27:24.920
The Kid, Andrew Molton, Eric
Coleman, Lance by Chance, Wesley Sexton,

1943
02:27:26.440 --> 02:27:33.399
Kevin, Justin Chambers, Matthew Wallaceuck, Justin Davenport, Ethan Doctor Wiz,

1944
02:27:33.479 --> 02:27:39.200
Pip, Corey Barnett, Alan Smith, Tim Murphy, Christopher Emily,

1945
02:27:39.280 --> 02:27:45.559
Devin Bray, Glenn Goddard, Sean
Smith, Carlos Stallion, of course always

1946
02:27:45.680 --> 02:27:52.360
keeping it solid, Saxter, Jack
Gillespie, Brobot, Sean Ryan Jacobs,

1947
02:27:52.520 --> 02:27:58.399
My god, so humbling m M
it is Rob Wrights, gentlemen, proud

1948
02:27:58.440 --> 02:28:01.319
to be a motor. I have
to ask as they're planned to take the

1949
02:28:01.360 --> 02:28:03.920
Iron Claw under the Cinema. I
perused the IMDb page, did not see

1950
02:28:03.920 --> 02:28:07.920
a cast character listening for Gary Hart
Glenn. This is when before it came

1951
02:28:07.959 --> 02:28:13.200
out Ken Manteller Glenn goes up for
shame thoughts. I mean, of course

1952
02:28:13.239 --> 02:28:16.120
it's a shame that they didn't fucking
you know, use them. But and

1953
02:28:16.239 --> 02:28:22.280
yes, of course, the I
mean Iron Claw is coming under the cinemat.

1954
02:28:22.360 --> 02:28:24.600
Just need a certain amount of time
to pass, right, Yeah,

1955
02:28:24.760 --> 02:28:26.159
yeah, I mean we got to
get we need a little bit more of

1956
02:28:26.200 --> 02:28:31.280
the truth coming out as to the
making of you know, it's it's it's

1957
02:28:31.680 --> 02:28:33.680
uh, not that I'm saying there's
anything bad that happened, but you know,

1958
02:28:33.879 --> 02:28:37.959
stories don't always Yeah, you want
the buy them out right away.

1959
02:28:37.159 --> 02:28:41.120
Yeah, I want to know what
really happened, good or bad, good

1960
02:28:41.159 --> 02:28:46.079
and bad whatever it is. I
like to hear a MJF story about how

1961
02:28:46.079 --> 02:28:48.719
he ended up nowhere anywhere to be
found. I mean, that's just that's

1962
02:28:48.879 --> 02:28:52.639
that's that's Hollywood filmmaking right there.
You know, like you got to cut

1963
02:28:52.680 --> 02:28:58.200
things for time, you never know. Yeah, but uh, I mean

1964
02:28:58.399 --> 02:29:03.520
yeah, I would be Yeah,
I mean I'm curious to see how you

1965
02:29:03.559 --> 02:29:09.680
know, what why he uh uh
wasn't in it more? Any of the

1966
02:29:09.680 --> 02:29:15.600
stories that happened behind the scenes.
Yeah, yeah, really interesting. Back

1967
02:29:15.600 --> 02:29:18.040
on the progressing tease, Tip Kevin
writes, Jack and JP, I didn't

1968
02:29:18.079 --> 02:29:20.719
start in my journey until the Pandemic. I finally caught up with the cast

1969
02:29:20.879 --> 02:29:22.840
in the Pandemic era. I first
bought my I bought my first three shirts

1970
02:29:22.840 --> 02:29:26.680
in twenty twenty one for my buddy, two for me. I heard recently

1971
02:29:26.680 --> 02:29:28.719
you two talking about someone who bought
the adult version of the Pimp King of

1972
02:29:28.760 --> 02:29:33.479
the Cad shirt. Yes, few, the few, the proud Boss.

1973
02:29:33.639 --> 02:29:37.200
I received my all Me Sawa Championship
Wrestling shit today, so I decided to

1974
02:29:37.200 --> 02:29:41.159
snap my growing collection. I supported
Golden Sword Gordon solely uncensored. Thank you

1975
02:29:41.200 --> 02:29:45.920
for all the hours of paid and
laughter. Praise be the Warlord and good

1976
02:29:46.000 --> 02:29:50.159
ship barf Hendrix too. Oh I
love it. Got the deep cut in

1977
02:29:50.200 --> 02:29:52.120
the collection. Oh that's amazing.
Yeah, pim King of the Cad.

1978
02:29:52.200 --> 02:29:56.600
That's a tough one to buy,
man, it is that it is when

1979
02:29:56.600 --> 02:30:01.959
you get the fucking you got the
uh the stripper with the with the tassels

1980
02:30:01.959 --> 02:30:05.559
on her tits? What's the Sonco
pain shirt? Someone just bought that and

1981
02:30:05.680 --> 02:30:09.239
I don't even remember that one.
Uh yeah, I mean I did do

1982
02:30:09.879 --> 02:30:15.959
I did do a son Co Oh
yeah, yeah, there it is.

1983
02:30:16.159 --> 02:30:18.520
Wow. I wonder who the fuck
that is? Why would someone buy that?

1984
02:30:18.520 --> 02:30:22.159
That's fascinating. I mean, and
I believe it was bought by a

1985
02:30:22.239 --> 02:30:26.879
woman. Yes it was. I'm
actually for her husband or her boyfriend or

1986
02:30:26.879 --> 02:30:33.799
something. Fascinating, fascinating old anything
you need on it, Yes, that's

1987
02:30:33.879 --> 02:30:35.840
right. I mean, what's the
problem with that? I can't tell that

1988
02:30:35.920 --> 02:30:39.440
much joy gives me when someone buys
one of those deep shirts. Oh,

1989
02:30:39.600 --> 02:30:43.319
I mean when someone buys a fucking
Sonco shirt. That's a whole different level.

1990
02:30:45.440 --> 02:30:48.440
That's a whole different level, faster
than Chuck Wrights. I just watched

1991
02:30:48.440 --> 02:30:50.959
a YouTube video making fun of old
wrestling games, and I shit, you

1992
02:30:52.000 --> 02:30:54.200
not in w W Thunder. If
you hold your player selector cursor on Kevin

1993
02:30:54.239 --> 02:30:58.360
Nash long enough, he tells you
not to pick him because he's already made

1994
02:30:58.360 --> 02:31:03.520
his money for being in the video
gaming. Wow. Sounds on brand.

1995
02:31:05.520 --> 02:31:09.559
Marcus Crouds, thanks for the cake, Aaron Busby, thank you very much.

1996
02:31:09.799 --> 02:31:16.159
Bryce bar two and Haiko Nichols Junior
and Stephen Milkowski and Alexander Slocum and

1997
02:31:16.399 --> 02:31:22.319
connelingis Grand Prix World Champion of the
World brother. Exactly very concerning. Thank

1998
02:31:22.360 --> 02:31:26.799
you, Mark Coleman. I'm sure
to that one the Hammer meet h thank

1999
02:31:26.840 --> 02:31:33.719
you very much for your support.
Raymond Barone also had to put an increased

2000
02:31:33.719 --> 02:31:43.399
spread punch down. It's actually Joe
who writes fellas Joe from Denton here County

2001
02:31:43.399 --> 02:31:48.159
seat of Denton County, home to
von Erics, about thirty miles north of

2002
02:31:48.280 --> 02:31:50.840
Dallas. Yes, I work for
University of North Texas where one Steve Williams

2003
02:31:50.879 --> 02:31:54.360
played ball. I'm still looking for
some kind of plaque or something on campus

2004
02:31:54.360 --> 02:31:56.200
dedicated to him. There has to
be something. Lapsed Austin by Jack is

2005
02:31:56.239 --> 02:31:58.520
one of my favorite characters, by
the way, always at the damn house

2006
02:31:58.559 --> 02:32:01.559
and whatnot, or going on about
how he almost broke his damn neck.

2007
02:32:01.680 --> 02:32:07.040
I'm loving the Lapsed Funk series.
I've been talking to myself in that kind

2008
02:32:07.040 --> 02:32:09.840
of high pitched monotone Terry Funk Hank
Hill accent NonStop while I do chores around

2009
02:32:09.840 --> 02:32:13.760
the damn house. That voice replaced
my lapsed brick flair voice, where I

2010
02:32:13.760 --> 02:32:16.760
would just mumble the words sea breezels
and rum and cookes over and over again.

2011
02:32:16.799 --> 02:32:20.879
Wilt's doing chores and listening to TLF. That's the fucking magic, Joe,

2012
02:32:20.920 --> 02:32:24.200
you got it. Figure it out, be efficient and be entertained at

2013
02:32:24.239 --> 02:32:26.280
the same time. Anyway, I
just stopped from ten to five to ten

2014
02:32:26.319 --> 02:32:30.680
a month since I got a pitty
raise. You get a pitty raise.

2015
02:32:30.760 --> 02:32:33.799
No money on my education boys,
Happy holidays, Thanks Joe, appreciate your

2016
02:32:33.799 --> 02:32:41.000
support. Man. Glad to hear
that we're we're delivering for you. Remember

2017
02:32:41.000 --> 02:32:43.600
when we did Art of War Games
and John Zandig was hung by his skin?

2018
02:32:45.000 --> 02:32:48.079
Oh yes, Chris writes to us, I just listened to your Art

2019
02:32:48.120 --> 02:32:52.120
of War Games about CZW. I
was cracking up. A friend of mine

2020
02:32:52.159 --> 02:32:54.440
was a body piercer. He was
also a photographer for CCW for a while,

2021
02:32:54.479 --> 02:32:58.319
and later a performer. He's the
one who helped orchestrate this. Oh

2022
02:33:00.159 --> 02:33:03.440
done very safely. In reality,
You're right, suspensions aren't as bad as

2023
02:33:03.440 --> 02:33:07.280
they look. The weed whackers and
broken glass are in reality far worse.

2024
02:33:07.520 --> 02:33:11.840
But this is visually worse to those
unfamiliar. The crowd was genuinely upset.

2025
02:33:11.920 --> 02:33:15.959
It was pretty funny, actually,
was it pointless? Oh, absolutely,

2026
02:33:16.360 --> 02:33:18.559
But the time it was just a
way to appear more extreme. Right or

2027
02:33:18.559 --> 02:33:20.879
wrong. I didn't care. Wasn't
my thing? I do understand. I

2028
02:33:20.920 --> 02:33:26.879
mean safe or not? Okay,
here's the thing. A guy's flesh was

2029
02:33:28.079 --> 02:33:33.520
pierced by a hook. Correct,
multiple hooks. Correct. I don't.

2030
02:33:33.159 --> 02:33:39.440
I'm not interested in safety. I'm
interested in not doing that. It's as

2031
02:33:39.440 --> 02:33:45.440
if you pinched the skin and we're
able to pull up hard and strong enough

2032
02:33:45.479 --> 02:33:54.840
that it stretched like a piece of
pizza cheese. I'm not interested. I

2033
02:33:54.879 --> 02:33:56.840
wish he raised his hand. We
were doing out of war games. I

2034
02:33:56.840 --> 02:34:00.520
would love to have gotten an interview
in with how that's pulled off. Right.

2035
02:34:01.040 --> 02:34:03.680
He thought it was funny that everyone
was fine with all the bloody gore,

2036
02:34:03.799 --> 02:34:05.920
but this was too much. Yeah, I mean that's what they were

2037
02:34:05.959 --> 02:34:09.319
going for. They were trying to
find that line, and they found it.

2038
02:34:09.399 --> 02:34:15.200
You ever gonna show Mama sorrow that? No, because I don't think

2039
02:34:15.200 --> 02:34:18.760
I want to watch that again.
There you go, fair. Brian writes

2040
02:34:18.760 --> 02:34:26.319
to us a night at the theater. Oh boy, here we go to

2041
02:34:26.399 --> 02:34:30.639
the co chairs. I just wanted
to say write in and said to say

2042
02:34:30.639 --> 02:34:33.799
thank you for a wonderful evening.
Of Live Theater this past weekend. This

2043
02:34:33.920 --> 02:34:37.719
is oh, I haven't King of
the Jews featuring the Price. Although I

2044
02:34:37.719 --> 02:34:41.840
haven't watched wrestling in over two decades, my intense fandom during that glorious period

2045
02:34:41.840 --> 02:34:46.920
from ninety seven to two thousand and
one burned bright imprinting on my psych you

2046
02:34:46.959 --> 02:34:50.239
to the point where I still listen
almost exclusively to podcasts of people talking about

2047
02:34:50.239 --> 02:34:54.440
wrestling from twenty five years ago.
Anything before ninety seven, I only had

2048
02:34:54.440 --> 02:35:01.239
only vague memories of watching over my
brother's older brother's shoulder. Post two thousand

2049
02:35:01.239 --> 02:35:03.959
and one, I couldn't bring myself
to watch anymore once Austin hugged McMahon,

2050
02:35:05.440 --> 02:35:09.159
and so I had only the handwritten
recaps of Raw and SmackDown that my younger

2051
02:35:09.200 --> 02:35:11.559
sister would put together for me each
week. Until two thousand and three.

2052
02:35:13.440 --> 02:35:16.520
I have been a TLF listener for
years, but I must admit that sometimes

2053
02:35:16.959 --> 02:35:20.680
that I sometimes get intimidated by your
epic journeys and their length, their girth,

2054
02:35:22.280 --> 02:35:26.440
which can at times seem daunting,
the downside of my joyful obsession with

2055
02:35:26.479 --> 02:35:31.840
TLF is that no matter how long
a life I lead, I know I

2056
02:35:31.879 --> 02:35:35.200
will be dead and buried before I
ever make a dent in the thousands of

2057
02:35:35.280 --> 02:35:39.760
hours of content thrust upon me to
point I've done the math, and at

2058
02:35:39.799 --> 02:35:48.000
my current pace, there is just
no way that being said, I have

2059
02:35:48.079 --> 02:35:52.440
dedicated every free moment of the past
month taking the ninety seven WWE journey,

2060
02:35:52.840 --> 02:35:58.440
and it has been a revelation,
having not seen these shows in decades.

2061
02:35:58.479 --> 02:36:01.639
I remember the details you described like
it was yesterday. But more importantly,

2062
02:36:01.719 --> 02:36:05.719
each episode introduces me to new lapsed
character moments I never knew I needed in

2063
02:36:05.719 --> 02:36:11.520
my life. From Sid calmly explaining
to Vince that he has no intention of

2064
02:36:11.520 --> 02:36:18.000
fulfilling the dates on his current contract, to Austin explaining what neapolitan ice cream

2065
02:36:18.120 --> 02:36:24.159
is to JR. That's funny,
vanilla? What chocolate? What strawberry?

2066
02:36:24.200 --> 02:36:30.440
Watt to Vader in the rain telling
us what time it is, before immediately

2067
02:36:30.440 --> 02:36:35.479
slipping out of character, oh my
gosh backstage during wrestling with Shadows to detail

2068
02:36:35.520 --> 02:36:41.159
his latest real estate development project.
No matter what I am doing or saying

2069
02:36:41.200 --> 02:36:45.879
throughout the day, those characters are
in my head. Regardless of how far

2070
02:36:45.959 --> 02:36:48.799
I've gotten from my years of peak
fandom in the nineties, it seems clear

2071
02:36:50.559 --> 02:36:54.360
that the whole this business has over
my life will never be relinquished. I

2072
02:36:54.440 --> 02:36:58.639
call both of my toddler daughters brother
and dude. Toddler daughters brother and dude

2073
02:37:00.959 --> 02:37:03.760
with such frequency that they have now
taken to addressing me as the same.

2074
02:37:05.680 --> 02:37:09.600
My wife has become accustomed to being
referred to almost exclusively as mister hitman.

2075
02:37:09.920 --> 02:37:15.399
Yes. Even the woman at the
drive through has to put up with me

2076
02:37:15.559 --> 02:37:20.760
ordering a lie right yaw, and
I don't even like coffee. Yeah,

2077
02:37:20.760 --> 02:37:24.399
sorry about that one. That one's
a yes. Because I am hundreds of

2078
02:37:24.399 --> 02:37:28.159
episodes behind and listening, I had
no idea that the Boss would be appearing

2079
02:37:28.200 --> 02:37:31.479
live and in person right in our
own backyard this month. Thankfully, my

2080
02:37:31.559 --> 02:37:35.639
wife must have taken to heart the
fact that I had been wandering the house

2081
02:37:35.719 --> 02:37:41.000
for weeks repeating the phrase I went
back, Yes, I went back in

2082
02:37:41.040 --> 02:37:45.840
a very distinctive Minnesota accent. Although
never having watched a single second of pro

2083
02:37:45.920 --> 02:37:48.440
wrestling or listened to a minute of
TLF, she was able to deduce,

2084
02:37:48.479 --> 02:37:52.719
through the magic of Twitter that an
esteemed code chair would be in town as

2085
02:37:52.760 --> 02:37:56.719
a birthday present. My father could
appreciate my wife, Oh, any father

2086
02:37:56.719 --> 02:38:01.120
could appreciate my wife gifted me not
all with a ticket to the show this

2087
02:38:01.120 --> 02:38:05.319
past Saturday, but also an excuse
to spend the entire day by myself in

2088
02:38:05.319 --> 02:38:09.760
New York City, left totally to
my own devices. I spent most of

2089
02:38:09.760 --> 02:38:13.079
it wandering Chinatown, and perhaps it
was something in the air that day,

2090
02:38:13.120 --> 02:38:20.840
but I just could not escape the
Federation. I stopped in a thrift store

2091
02:38:20.920 --> 02:38:28.879
and was greeted by an oversized Sean
Michael's doll, the one with the plush

2092
02:38:28.040 --> 02:38:33.600
body and plastic head, with slicked
back mid nineties hair and grotesque proportions.

2093
02:38:35.319 --> 02:38:39.319
I wandered through a martial arts supply
shop and was faced with obscure looks on

2094
02:38:41.159 --> 02:38:46.680
Comma and double Axe technique. I
meandered down a small side street and looked

2095
02:38:46.719 --> 02:38:50.639
up to see the sign I expected. I was at the corner of Baxter

2096
02:38:50.799 --> 02:38:58.559
Street and Hogan Place. Brother Oh, before long, it was showtime.

2097
02:38:58.600 --> 02:39:01.159
I arrived the theater and took a
seat at a table near the stage.

2098
02:39:01.559 --> 02:39:05.360
The cast members began to trickle in, and then there he was the Boss.

2099
02:39:05.600 --> 02:39:09.120
Yes, I already knew the incredible
talent I would be witnessing from the

2100
02:39:09.120 --> 02:39:16.159
countless conversations I had heard between two
completely distinct characters toggled everlessly by one man.

2101
02:39:16.239 --> 02:39:20.879
But I was not expecting to see
the Boss Hunter up to the stage

2102
02:39:20.280 --> 02:39:26.200
and immediately sit down to join a
jazz ensemble and begin playing a brass wind

2103
02:39:26.239 --> 02:39:31.000
instrument I've never seen before. That
is the first scene. My understanding of

2104
02:39:31.079 --> 02:39:35.639
JP's drue talent was that was,
at that moment taken to the next level.

2105
02:39:35.760 --> 02:39:39.479
And that was ever even before he
took out an entirely different brass wind

2106
02:39:39.520 --> 02:39:46.680
instrument. I started like that,
Boss, I knew you would. Oh

2107
02:39:46.719 --> 02:39:52.559
shit, oh god. My appreciation
for this man's talent continue to go off

2108
02:39:52.559 --> 02:39:56.159
the charts into a new realm during
the preceding two plus hours on stage,

2109
02:39:56.159 --> 02:40:00.159
showcasing an incredible range of emotions,
all while doing a very specific accident and

2110
02:40:00.239 --> 02:40:03.760
even dipping into song at one point. You know, it's one of those

2111
02:40:03.799 --> 02:40:09.000
things you don't really realize. You
know. What I find funny is I

2112
02:40:09.040 --> 02:40:13.959
don't even think of it as being
a big deal, just doing the ship

2113
02:40:15.040 --> 02:40:18.520
that I did in the show.
I can't do it successful enough if you

2114
02:40:18.520 --> 02:40:20.239
do. Yeah, I didn't,
you know, I didn't even think,

2115
02:40:20.360 --> 02:40:24.440
you know, I didn't even think
twice. But I'm very appreciative of this

2116
02:40:24.520 --> 02:40:28.760
email. This is a great email, and I you know, I'm always

2117
02:40:28.760 --> 02:40:31.040
a fan of stroking my own ego
at times. It's good to see yourself

2118
02:40:31.079 --> 02:40:35.000
through others eyes, you know,
Yeah, absolutely is it absolutely is.

2119
02:40:35.079 --> 02:40:41.280
Absolutely you can't. I see enough
negativity on through other people's eyes about ours,

2120
02:40:41.319 --> 02:40:46.440
about us, So it's fine,
you know, truly truly unbelievable to

2121
02:40:46.440 --> 02:40:50.360
finally get to witness this level of
talent in person, after so many hours

2122
02:40:50.399 --> 02:40:54.399
spent listening each and every week,
I was lucky enough to catch JP outside

2123
02:40:54.440 --> 02:40:56.719
the theater of the show after the
show, and while I am sure I

2124
02:40:56.719 --> 02:41:00.479
stumbled over my words and have no
idea what I even said, Cat,

2125
02:41:00.479 --> 02:41:03.360
such a warm and friendly interaction with
the boss was a wonderful caper to an

2126
02:41:03.399 --> 02:41:05.200
amazing evening of theater. I remember
that it was great. It was really

2127
02:41:05.280 --> 02:41:15.319
nice, you know, especially because
it was someone you know, not part

2128
02:41:15.360 --> 02:41:18.239
of the group that came. Yeah. Yeah, this is a totally independent

2129
02:41:18.239 --> 02:41:22.600
ticket buyer. And I'm always I
I say this if you, if if

2130
02:41:22.600 --> 02:41:26.360
I'm in a show and you're around, please let me know. I will

2131
02:41:26.559 --> 02:41:31.559
always I like coming out and hanging
out with people after the show and seeing

2132
02:41:31.600 --> 02:41:35.280
people and I'm as you know,
believe it or not. I mean,

2133
02:41:37.000 --> 02:41:39.399
I am very appreciative when people make
the effort to come out and see it's

2134
02:41:39.440 --> 02:41:43.040
so great hitting the after we did
that, Oh it was so much fun.

2135
02:41:43.159 --> 02:41:45.920
Good fucking cats and ship afterwards was
a plan. Mow tier, get

2136
02:41:45.920 --> 02:41:48.159
together, walk in the streets.
Just bullshit, stupid. It is great.

2137
02:41:48.239 --> 02:41:52.040
Fucking eating a ship ton of fucking
corn beef overdid it big time.

2138
02:41:52.799 --> 02:41:54.799
Let's got to eat before the show, and then after the show, let's

2139
02:41:56.079 --> 02:41:58.399
to cats. Yeah, let's eat
more. Let's eat like actually ten times

2140
02:41:58.399 --> 02:42:01.079
more than we're going to eat.
Then we ate at the fucking Burger place.

2141
02:42:01.120 --> 02:42:03.920
That's that mote to your benefit,
folks, only select few got the

2142
02:42:03.959 --> 02:42:07.760
invite. That's the way it's going
to have to be. Thank you for

2143
02:42:07.799 --> 02:42:11.040
all the countless moments throughout the day
when I think of something you both said

2144
02:42:11.040 --> 02:42:15.639
and kind of stop smiling, even
when that day has otherwise got me down.

2145
02:42:15.719 --> 02:42:20.280
You're dueling awesome impressions during this ninety
seven journey will light up even the

2146
02:42:20.399 --> 02:42:22.520
darkest corners of my life for the
rest of my days. And now I

2147
02:42:22.600 --> 02:42:28.840
began the twenty plus hour Montreal deep
dive for the first time. Sincerely,

2148
02:42:28.559 --> 02:42:33.000
Brian PS. When the day comes
that I am able to contribute, I

2149
02:42:33.040 --> 02:42:37.040
will pay whatever it takes for a
lapsed audiobook of the two thousand and six

2150
02:42:37.440 --> 02:42:39.280
w novel Big Apple Takedown. I
don't know what the fuck that is.

2151
02:42:39.360 --> 02:42:45.520
I don't know what that is either. All right, interesting interesting notion there,

2152
02:42:45.639 --> 02:42:50.959
interesting notion. So thanks very much, great email. Yeah, big

2153
02:42:50.959 --> 02:42:56.280
thanks go out to Hey Darby l
at Hey Darby Allen do a kickflip.

2154
02:42:56.760 --> 02:43:01.120
Yeah, that's the name. That's
amazing. Hammond and Tony Fernandez an anonymous

2155
02:43:01.120 --> 02:43:05.520
and Jesse Harrison and George Sakaris and
they call me Saltine Daltine because I'm white,

2156
02:43:05.520 --> 02:43:09.760
ash shit and salty in all the
wrong ways. Brother, Rod McMahon,

2157
02:43:09.840 --> 02:43:15.239
Michael J. Tremarco and Rod mcman
Ben Brown, Brandon Davis and s

2158
02:43:15.360 --> 02:43:18.360
and Steven Tackett and Jack Tracy and
Adam Osbourne, Travis Wilcox, Adam B.

2159
02:43:20.440 --> 02:43:24.719
Miles, t Timothy Lee, Christopher
Rupar Pete, Willie Thompson, Leo

2160
02:43:24.799 --> 02:43:30.159
Troy, Benjamin, Hedrick, Josh
Wright, Tony b and Simon Ahearn.

2161
02:43:31.000 --> 02:43:35.000
Derek Dolozol recently bumped up his pledge
and wrote my Spotify rap told me I

2162
02:43:35.040 --> 02:43:39.520
listened to you guys for thirty thousand
minutes in twenty twenty three. If you're

2163
02:43:39.520 --> 02:43:41.200
trying to be in my ass that
hard and long, I better nut up.

2164
02:43:41.559 --> 02:43:43.799
You can do better than that,
Yeah, I know you can.

2165
02:43:45.920 --> 02:43:48.040
Mike writes two things that have destroyed
my sides recently in The Lapsed Fan.

2166
02:43:48.120 --> 02:43:52.559
First, when JP was doing his
Abbey impression and slipped in a you know,

2167
02:43:52.879 --> 02:43:58.600
and it sounded very Nashurally. The
thought of a nash Abby synthesis tickles

2168
02:43:58.639 --> 02:44:01.159
me away that I can't describe.
Please, for the love of all things,

2169
02:44:01.520 --> 02:44:05.920
I need to hear JP's Abbey voice
saying nash things. Snacks, money,

2170
02:44:05.760 --> 02:44:18.760
I don't ten. Motherfucker's not about
you. Uh. What's the only

2171
02:44:18.840 --> 02:44:24.600
thing that is real is the money
and the mine. It's Kevin learned at

2172
02:44:24.600 --> 02:44:37.639
all. Uh, you know,
motherfucker is not all about you. Eat

2173
02:44:37.079 --> 02:44:48.319
something anything about French connection, maybe
French press connections. Fucking I'd like to

2174
02:44:48.719 --> 02:44:54.799
I'm a big fan of, you
know, the Gene Hackman film. Always

2175
02:44:54.920 --> 02:45:05.120
whenever I get practice about it,
I get the French toast and the French

2176
02:45:05.200 --> 02:45:09.399
toast connection with that Dulo Butcher.
Yes, I think that's look, I

2177
02:45:09.399 --> 02:45:13.920
think you know what that is.
It's absolutely correct me. This guy,

2178
02:45:13.559 --> 02:45:18.600
the French toast plates that he has
put down the fucking oh fucking Christ,

2179
02:45:18.639 --> 02:45:22.719
the diners that didn't stand a fucking
chance when the Abbey mobile pulled into the

2180
02:45:22.719 --> 02:45:26.600
fucking parking lot. Think of the
amount of butter lost on this man.

2181
02:45:26.079 --> 02:45:33.600
Okay, Oh my god, it's
stunning. Shaneson clayir leanne Amy Wilson,

2182
02:45:33.639 --> 02:45:37.600
Matthew Hardaway, Ross Miller, Kurt
Siri, and Luke Pearson. William Murphy

2183
02:45:37.639 --> 02:45:41.600
in that moat tier. Shout out
to William Murphy for doing the right thing

2184
02:45:41.639 --> 02:45:45.399
and joining the elite structure to the
elite strata, we should say, Jonathan

2185
02:45:45.440 --> 02:45:48.280
Guzman, Andy Ellen, Nich Sackster, Jeff Jason Austin, Trevor Hendy and

2186
02:45:48.399 --> 02:45:52.959
Daniel Mohler and Robert Daniel Pearson,
Michael Blanton, a boy, Mikey Blanton,

2187
02:45:54.040 --> 02:45:58.920
there coming Strong, Barry Middleton,
Martin b jeff Rick Kobos, Todd

2188
02:45:58.920 --> 02:46:03.760
Harding, Chris m David barrand Patrick
Lucas, Cody Nesmith, Michael Knight,

2189
02:46:03.879 --> 02:46:07.079
t r Andy Savage, Paul the
Saint Twan Graham went all the way up

2190
02:46:07.079 --> 02:46:09.479
to fifty bucks because he knew it
had to be done. Yeah, he's

2191
02:46:09.520 --> 02:46:16.159
a fucking because he's a monster,
human being. Great. Annuel Herron,

2192
02:46:16.280 --> 02:46:20.879
Caleb Bowden, Sam O'Connor, Liam
Stewart, DJ Liam Stewart again upping the

2193
02:46:20.920 --> 02:46:24.360
pledge, Antwine Fields, Corey Kirk, Thompson, Miles Martin, Jeran Frow,

2194
02:46:24.879 --> 02:46:28.719
Matt Steven, tack At, Ben
buck ellis Bergman Roch Patel, Christopher

2195
02:46:28.719 --> 02:46:35.040
Emily, and of course David Prows. Another thing Mike said, besides the

2196
02:46:35.079 --> 02:46:41.319
Abbey thing, second contemplating suicide with
Jack Briscoe. I never considered how funny

2197
02:46:41.319 --> 02:46:43.879
it would be to imagine Jack brisco
of all people, contemplating suicide while he

2198
02:46:43.959 --> 02:46:48.239
runs down the mundane nous of his
life. But here we are. There's

2199
02:46:48.280 --> 02:46:54.040
some sleepers in that NW a old
title episode of the Last Yeah, yeah,

2200
02:46:54.200 --> 02:46:56.719
I think those that to get us
yep, yep, I mean,

2201
02:46:56.719 --> 02:47:01.319
I think that's just the nature of
Jack Briscoe, to imagine him narrating his

2202
02:47:01.399 --> 02:47:05.200
memoirs, Mike writes in a scene
not unlike Brooks from Shashank Redemption, when

2203
02:47:05.200 --> 02:47:07.840
he steps on the chair and hangs
himself. Yes, yes, Jess Risco

2204
02:47:09.079 --> 02:47:13.760
was here, Jack, right,
brisk yess exactly. Yes. This is

2205
02:47:13.760 --> 02:47:20.239
from Fred Peter Weller and Capitol Combat
nineteen ninety Return of RoboCop. Yes,

2206
02:47:20.639 --> 02:47:22.879
DeReKo Chairman. I'm out of New
Orleans Fan XPO and just met Peter Weller.

2207
02:47:24.760 --> 02:47:26.319
I'm a history teacher and got him
to talk by asking him about his

2208
02:47:26.399 --> 02:47:30.479
PhD in Renaissance history. After I
took my picture, I had to ask

2209
02:47:30.520 --> 02:47:33.440
him if it was him in the
suit of Capitol Combat ninety. He jokingly

2210
02:47:33.479 --> 02:47:37.399
put his head down in sighed when
I mentioned I was a wrestling fan.

2211
02:47:37.479 --> 02:47:39.680
That you get, by the way, Fred, that's right, that's right.

2212
02:47:39.719 --> 02:47:46.879
Fucking get a complete listen. He
now totally regrets is spending. He

2213
02:47:46.959 --> 02:47:52.920
knew better than to warm up his
days. God forgetting that he ever talked

2214
02:47:52.959 --> 02:48:01.360
to you. Ah, His goal
is to forget it's you. It was

2215
02:48:01.399 --> 02:48:05.200
adamant that it was not him in
the costume. He then went on to

2216
02:48:05.239 --> 02:48:09.559
say that people got sued, especially
in Japan, for copyright and infringement.

2217
02:48:09.600 --> 02:48:11.840
Not sure what he's referring to,
he stated that people in Japan say stuff

2218
02:48:11.840 --> 02:48:16.280
because they don't think people in America
will find out or hold him legally responsible.

2219
02:48:16.680 --> 02:48:20.440
I'd my tongue about what Hogan said
in Japan about the IGP Championship versus

2220
02:48:20.479 --> 02:48:24.239
the WWF Championship. Yeah, I
don't think that would have done you any

2221
02:48:24.239 --> 02:48:28.399
favors with Peter Well, yeah who. So you know that's always a subject

2222
02:48:28.399 --> 02:48:31.120
of speculation. I think we settled
it pretty strongly, RoboCop under the cinemat

2223
02:48:31.120 --> 02:48:33.840
that it was not him. Yes, it's not him, but it's not

2224
02:48:33.959 --> 02:48:37.639
him. But if you need to
hear a dispatch from a Great Solar System

2225
02:48:37.639 --> 02:48:41.479
member, making sure to keep us
in mind and checking out the box in

2226
02:48:41.520 --> 02:48:45.959
person, there it is. I
love it. Boss, Let's hit.

2227
02:48:46.079 --> 02:48:48.680
Let's hit Neil Forbes's email. I'm
not sure we're going to be able to

2228
02:48:48.680 --> 02:48:52.200
play the link, but we can
tell people about it and they can check

2229
02:48:52.200 --> 02:48:56.879
it out if they wish. Greeting
his code chairs. I hope you and

2230
02:48:56.959 --> 02:49:00.520
your families are well. I mean, I'm a bit behind the podcast.

2231
02:49:00.600 --> 02:49:03.959
Your work ethic continues to be enviable, but I must say the Lapsed Funk

2232
02:49:03.040 --> 02:49:07.840
Journey is some of your best work
yet. I'm a bit of a I'm

2233
02:49:07.840 --> 02:49:11.639
a bit young to ever see much
of Terry Funk's career, although amusingly,

2234
02:49:11.680 --> 02:49:15.360
if you ask my mother to name
five wrestlers. I guarantee you she would

2235
02:49:15.360 --> 02:49:20.360
include Chainsaw Charlie in that list.
She was obviously in the room during that

2236
02:49:20.440 --> 02:49:24.879
episode of Raw and found it hilarious. But what more do I need to

2237
02:49:24.920 --> 02:49:30.680
say? TIEF transports me into different
places and times and lets me properly appreciate

2238
02:49:30.760 --> 02:49:35.000
this legend. Now, none of
these other wrestling podcasters, because it could

2239
02:49:35.040 --> 02:49:37.840
succeed in this goal. They quite
simply do not have the skill, the

2240
02:49:37.840 --> 02:49:45.280
work, ethic, or indeed the
balls to do. So yeah, fuck

2241
02:49:45.399 --> 02:49:50.040
them. There's only one wrestling podcast
that matters, that's right, only one

2242
02:49:50.120 --> 02:49:56.280
that is fuck them, only one
that is going to stand the test of

2243
02:49:56.360 --> 02:50:01.319
time far in the future. Will
be Really, we listen to TLF on

2244
02:50:01.399 --> 02:50:07.520
our fucking deathbeds now wanted something sillier. It's quite possible someone already pointed us

2245
02:50:07.520 --> 02:50:11.520
out, and if so, just
ignore this male. But I recently heard

2246
02:50:11.639 --> 02:50:16.680
Metallica's nineteen ninety eight cover version of
the song Whiskey in the Jar. The

2247
02:50:16.760 --> 02:50:18.760
music video for this played all the
time on the rock stations when I was

2248
02:50:18.760 --> 02:50:22.440
growing up. At this time.
There was something extra special about it because

2249
02:50:22.479 --> 02:50:31.360
this was my first time hearing the
song since the TNAH journey Oh. Vocalist

2250
02:50:31.559 --> 02:50:39.200
James Hetfield's prominent ad libs are particularly
exaggerated in this performance. Go to the

2251
02:50:39.200 --> 02:50:45.520
start of the chorus at two thirty
one in the official video. Okay,

2252
02:50:45.680 --> 02:50:58.040
I'm now opening it up. This
is an ad rather skip two thirty one,

2253
02:50:58.079 --> 02:51:01.319
he said, for the sounds like
the fucking funk theme right there.

2254
02:51:01.360 --> 02:51:11.399
It does. But anyway, two
thirty one, here we go. Let's

2255
02:51:11.399 --> 02:51:24.680
see what goes on here. Whoa
you mean? It sounds just like it?

2256
02:51:24.680 --> 02:51:39.879
It does suit again, that's awesome. Oh that's funny. That's very

2257
02:51:39.920 --> 02:51:43.479
TNH. Well done, great dispatch. Wait to keep your ear to the

2258
02:51:43.520 --> 02:51:46.079
ground. Pal, Thank you you, and thank you Burning Hammer and Chris

2259
02:51:46.079 --> 02:51:50.760
Beard Sell and Stove and Bryce Bartwo
and Chris Webley and Goose Hudson and JP

2260
02:51:50.920 --> 02:51:54.200
Hardy and Jacob and Matt Anderson and
Jesse Harrison, Brandon Davis and Lucky and

2261
02:51:54.319 --> 02:51:58.920
Jerry Zagarelli and Joseph Kmino And there's
someone who's sucking. Who's handle is jap

2262
02:52:00.040 --> 02:52:05.079
P Hardy? Fuck that that's for
you. That totally is Keenan James Milsom

2263
02:52:05.120 --> 02:52:09.239
and andrews Sieberg and Nick p and
Toronto Joe and Jared Wolf and Darryl Wilkins

2264
02:52:09.319 --> 02:52:13.200
and Steven Tackett and Michael Tremarco,
Chris Harris, Sewan, Mike Palmy,

2265
02:52:13.399 --> 02:52:16.559
Dan Haggerty, Thomas d Timothy Lee, Jay, Nick Williams, Steve Nick

2266
02:52:16.639 --> 02:52:24.760
Lombardy and Paul Barrett and Adam Graver
and Dalton Hastings and Daryl Wilkins and Matt

2267
02:52:26.040 --> 02:52:28.799
had enough of a list for everybody. The fuck do you want from us?

2268
02:52:28.799 --> 02:52:35.000
How about seriously Vernon coming out at
the fucking mote tier level right out

2269
02:52:35.000 --> 02:52:39.280
of the gate, and writes deer
coach chairman, I trust this message finds

2270
02:52:39.319 --> 02:52:41.719
you well. My name is Jeffrey, though in the wrestling circle I go

2271
02:52:41.799 --> 02:52:45.559
by Vernon. I recent made the
decision to step away from free loading after

2272
02:52:45.559 --> 02:52:48.399
finding inspiration in your Collision in Korea
episode Jack's word struck a chord with me

2273
02:52:50.200 --> 02:52:52.440
put my money where my mouth is
as a true consumer, not a freeloader,

2274
02:52:54.159 --> 02:52:56.280
and I'm delighted to express my deep
appreciation by becoming a Mote Tear member.

2275
02:52:56.319 --> 02:52:58.920
From day one, my journey with
your podcast began as I sought an

2276
02:53:00.000 --> 02:53:03.280
alternative to my weekly Jim Cornett episodes, which have been a staple since twenty

2277
02:53:03.280 --> 02:53:05.920
sixteen. While I've explored various wrestling
podcasts over the years, your stood out

2278
02:53:07.040 --> 02:53:09.840
with the insane deep dive you did
in TNH. When I heard the announcement

2279
02:53:09.840 --> 02:53:11.479
clip and wanted to see how anyone
could discuss Hull, COGD and TNA at

2280
02:53:11.520 --> 02:53:16.360
such length. Needless to say,
I became obsessed. Your in depth explorations

2281
02:53:16.360 --> 02:53:20.360
of the sport of kings has become
the soundtrack to my daily routine as a

2282
02:53:20.360 --> 02:53:22.280
self proclaimed wrestling story and among my
friends. My fandom dates back to the

2283
02:53:22.280 --> 02:53:26.840
early nineties growing up in the Bronx. My fondest memory is cheering on hul

2284
02:53:26.879 --> 02:53:30.040
Cogan from the Nosebleeds of MSG for
the one show my grandfather and father took

2285
02:53:30.079 --> 02:53:33.879
me to my family. Immigrants from
Nicaragua during the contrast Sendenista conflict, added

2286
02:53:33.879 --> 02:53:39.040
a unique perspective to my wrestling journey. Despite language barriers, my grandfather introduced

2287
02:53:39.040 --> 02:53:41.639
me to the world of wrestling,
creating a cherished tradition of bonding over weekly

2288
02:53:41.680 --> 02:53:45.840
TV and my daily bombarding him to
tell me more stories. He often talked

2289
02:53:45.840 --> 02:53:48.159
to me about Olsanto and Blue Demon. I was learning all those stories about

2290
02:53:48.239 --> 02:53:52.399
legends and about things I had never
seen, but fell deeper in love with

2291
02:53:52.440 --> 02:53:54.559
because he loved it so much.
I developed my Spanish speaking as well as

2292
02:53:54.559 --> 02:53:58.680
my love of wrestling. School life
demands took over during my seniorear of high

2293
02:53:58.680 --> 02:54:01.799
school and O two, so I
stopped watching WWL together. My wrestling passion

2294
02:54:01.840 --> 02:54:05.000
resurfaced in college after my grandfather's sudden
death. Being lapsed, I was lost

2295
02:54:05.079 --> 02:54:09.680
until four I discovered the early wrestling
internet radio shows. I explored Japanese wrestling,

2296
02:54:09.680 --> 02:54:13.920
any wrestling, and embraced the world
of tape trading. I realized much

2297
02:54:13.920 --> 02:54:18.239
of what I enjoyed about wrestling and
is the communal part and getting to talk

2298
02:54:18.239 --> 02:54:20.120
about it and argue with my friends. In that small way, The IWC

2299
02:54:20.280 --> 02:54:24.079
became my secret friends that I could
talk about wrestling while still getting to be

2300
02:54:24.120 --> 02:54:28.559
a cool college guy while wrestling nerd. At the same time, I am

2301
02:54:28.600 --> 02:54:31.120
a pastor, and of course,
my wrestling passion became intertwined with my studies.

2302
02:54:31.159 --> 02:54:35.239
During my final semester of getting my
master's Boston University School of Theology,

2303
02:54:35.280 --> 02:54:41.000
I pursued pro wrestling training in Rhode
Island, while my ring aspirations shifted to

2304
02:54:41.040 --> 02:54:43.079
being a manager due to my athletic
limitations. It brought me joy and some

2305
02:54:43.120 --> 02:54:48.479
mild success pro wrestling and became the
focus of my doctoral project titled Getting Over

2306
02:54:48.000 --> 02:54:54.360
Leadership Lessons from two Corinthians and Territory
Professional Wrestling. My paper was approved and

2307
02:54:54.399 --> 02:54:58.559
wrestling helped me become a doctor.
I shared the snippet of my journey to

2308
02:54:58.559 --> 02:55:01.639
express my gratitude for what I've learned
about your story and to convey my thanks

2309
02:55:01.680 --> 02:55:05.799
with both words and some support in
the form of cash. Best regards,

2310
02:55:07.479 --> 02:55:13.760
Vernon, tremendous story, tremendous origin
story. Yep, it's happening out there

2311
02:55:13.799 --> 02:55:18.799
every single day, every single time
we pick up the mic. It's to

2312
02:55:18.879 --> 02:55:24.399
see through things like that and wrapping
up here Cold Stone, Steve Austin.

2313
02:55:24.600 --> 02:55:33.079
I loved Mama Sorrow referring to Big
Boss Man as mister Boston. Oh God.

2314
02:55:33.280 --> 02:55:37.719
Even better was her asking who's the
blue guy walking around like he's having

2315
02:55:37.719 --> 02:55:41.920
his nails done? Yes, what
a bizarre, but hilarious and accurate way

2316
02:55:41.959 --> 02:55:48.879
to describe Achem. Yes, like
he's having his nails done. That's true

2317
02:55:48.639 --> 02:55:54.920
at the wrist, Yeah, it
makes total sense. I had no problem

2318
02:55:54.920 --> 02:55:58.559
with that whatsoever. The live calls
continued to drop. We did our rumble

2319
02:55:58.680 --> 02:56:03.520
duty this year and Andre Andre picked
this up. There's never been a more

2320
02:56:03.520 --> 02:56:07.280
prophetic live call in history like there
was with this one. Between Jack calling,

2321
02:56:07.280 --> 02:56:09.719
the t Anda involvement and JP's dating
Punk would tear something and not make

2322
02:56:09.719 --> 02:56:16.760
it to Mania. Yep, just
another reason why there's only one fucking cast.

2323
02:56:16.399 --> 02:56:20.319
Yes, and Stephen, on that
same live call writes, finally,

2324
02:56:20.319 --> 02:56:24.799
after almost eight years, the co
chairs have popped the Missus Rumble twenty four

2325
02:56:24.840 --> 02:56:31.840
call our truth entrance. Mmm,
price is right theme, Well, it's

2326
02:56:31.879 --> 02:56:37.760
a family feud, But I digress, and we close this episode with Steve

2327
02:56:37.799 --> 02:56:43.559
and Saint Louis greeting's co chairs.
My tale of Lapstom is one as old

2328
02:56:43.559 --> 02:56:48.520
as time. I described myself as
thrice lapsed, the first being in nineteen

2329
02:56:48.559 --> 02:56:52.680
ninety three when I started getting hair
in my crotch and the product was pissed

2330
02:56:52.680 --> 02:56:58.000
poor. Then back in the groove
around the time of Bad Blood, which

2331
02:56:58.040 --> 02:57:01.159
took place in my home base of
Saint Louis. Around then I became a

2332
02:57:01.239 --> 02:57:05.600
rabbit fan, found ECW and still
hold memories from ninety seven through two thousand

2333
02:57:05.600 --> 02:57:09.120
and two or so, very dear. I lapsed again in two thousand and

2334
02:57:09.120 --> 02:57:13.159
two, as things weren't quite the
same without ECW around, Plus I finally

2335
02:57:13.159 --> 02:57:18.319
started getting regular pussy. That's right. I clawed my way back around One

2336
02:57:18.399 --> 02:57:24.520
Night's Stand and the subsequent ECW reboot, but found the WWECW was not for

2337
02:57:24.639 --> 02:57:28.719
me, surprising unsurprisingly, and lapsed
again. I'm lapsed to this day,

2338
02:57:28.840 --> 02:57:33.319
though I still watched the plees and
stay relatively current with the goings on,

2339
02:57:33.799 --> 02:57:39.959
So maybe not so much. Sonthing
b exactly like? Yeah, and and

2340
02:57:39.159 --> 02:57:43.600
you by proxy by force? Yeah? Right, I've never really lapsed in

2341
02:57:43.680 --> 02:57:46.719
terms of the nostalgia, he writes. I stumbled on something to wrestle early

2342
02:57:46.760 --> 02:57:50.520
on and was a loyal listener to
the Conrad casts and still am to some

2343
02:57:50.600 --> 02:57:54.280
degree. But since Bruce has it
to the company line and Jr. Only

2344
02:57:54.280 --> 02:57:56.600
gets excited about Alpha males and barbecue
sauce, I found myself wanting more.

2345
02:57:58.280 --> 02:58:00.799
I kept reading about this thing called
the lapse. F Hey, that's me,

2346
02:58:00.879 --> 02:58:03.319
I thought to myself, But who
are these guys and why the fuck

2347
02:58:03.559 --> 02:58:05.719
do I want to listen to them
talk about Survivors Series eighty eight for seven

2348
02:58:05.760 --> 02:58:09.000
hours? Oh boy, that's what
they always say. In the beginning isn't

2349
02:58:09.000 --> 02:58:13.319
it. Yep. That's how we
got them. Yep. And you know

2350
02:58:13.360 --> 02:58:18.520
by now I didn't want to listen
to anything I fucking needed too. Did

2351
02:58:18.520 --> 02:58:20.680
he underline a word needed, boss, Yes he did. And on that

2352
02:58:20.719 --> 02:58:26.200
topic, can we just shout the
following from the fucking rooftops? The podcast

2353
02:58:26.239 --> 02:58:30.719
is seven hours because that's how long
it fucking takes. They laugh at their

2354
02:58:30.760 --> 02:58:35.239
own jokes because they're fucking funny,
he writes in bold. So far,

2355
02:58:35.319 --> 02:58:39.760
I'm not really seeing any problems now
that that's out of the way. The

2356
02:58:39.799 --> 02:58:43.120
truth is, I don't have all
that much time to listen to podcasts these

2357
02:58:43.200 --> 02:58:48.399
days. I'm a single father with
shared custody of two young children. Dude,

2358
02:58:48.639 --> 02:58:50.600
that's fucking that is some tough shit, man. I have a demanding

2359
02:58:50.719 --> 02:58:54.680
job that I can rarely cast during, and I no longer commute to the

2360
02:58:54.680 --> 02:58:56.840
office, so that time is gone. I still have over three hundred episodes

2361
02:58:56.879 --> 02:59:00.879
in my backlog, and who knows
if I will ever forget to them.

2362
02:59:01.040 --> 02:59:03.200
For two years, I have used
this as a poor excuse for not tithing,

2363
02:59:03.680 --> 02:59:07.600
and I'm so very ashamed of being
such a bitch, because my need

2364
02:59:07.719 --> 02:59:13.000
is not about the volume of content
TLF provides. My need is deeper than

2365
02:59:13.040 --> 02:59:18.920
that. It's because if I am
depressed because I miss my kids, yes,

2366
02:59:18.120 --> 02:59:22.680
or have a rough day of work, TLF can turn me around.

2367
02:59:22.559 --> 02:59:26.719
It's because if I'm busy on a
weekend with one of the multitude of house

2368
02:59:26.799 --> 02:59:31.440
chores or repairs, I have TLF
in my ears, yes and deep up

2369
02:59:31.479 --> 02:59:35.000
my ass to get me through it
with a fucking smile. What it all

2370
02:59:35.000 --> 02:59:39.280
boils down to is that if I
was without this podcast, it would affect

2371
02:59:39.319 --> 02:59:45.520
me emotionally. As Vince would say, you put smiles on faces. That's

2372
02:59:45.639 --> 02:59:48.799
right. It's not the only podcast
I listened to, but it's the only

2373
02:59:48.840 --> 02:59:52.840
one that fucking matters. Yes,
it is his words, folks, not

2374
02:59:52.959 --> 02:59:58.799
ours. I devoured the lamentable tragedy
ahead of the Iron Claws release. I

2375
02:59:58.799 --> 03:00:01.479
can't wait to learn more about the
Funks than I ever thought I needed to

2376
03:00:01.520 --> 03:00:03.639
know. The TNH journey was a
fucking phenomenon, and I gobbled it up

2377
03:00:03.639 --> 03:00:07.000
despite my having never watched more than
five minutes of TNA in my life.

2378
03:00:07.360 --> 03:00:11.479
You're welcome, TNA, by the
way. By the time we were done

2379
03:00:11.479 --> 03:00:16.120
with TNH Boss, they were bringing
back the TNA name like Jesus. I

2380
03:00:16.239 --> 03:00:20.760
decided after completing that one that I
would make TLF my first and only Patreon

2381
03:00:20.840 --> 03:00:24.040
purchase. Hoof Double Bizz Boss do
the thing hit Dixie's music for us one

2382
03:00:24.079 --> 03:00:28.479
time. Oh fuck, But it
was this gem I have transcribed below that

2383
03:00:28.520 --> 03:00:33.000
truly put me over the edge.
LAP Scribes feel free to use as you

2384
03:00:33.040 --> 03:00:37.719
please Episode three twenty four, Bash
at the Beach ninety five for the universe,

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I direct you to timestamp two fifty
two, and if you have the

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time, I would humbly ask Jack
to read this back as only he can,

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and I quote as JP comes like
a fucking inferno when Randy Savage makes

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his way to the ring to do
battle with Brick Flair, holding as Jack

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so aptly indicates a fistful of slim
gems in his hands, slim Jim for

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everybody, everyone needing a snap.
I'm telling you right now, I got

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no chips, I got nothing else, but I do have some little slivers

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of meat. Here we go,
handing out the sweaty meat here at Bash

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at the Beach. This has gotta
be you. Oh, this is you?

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This is it? Why do you
have me say it? Oh?

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All right, alright? Said it? To me, it's fucking do it

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in the spirit of TLFX. It's
that fucking mailbag show Winter twenty twenty four.

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Oh God, swim gym for everybody. Everyone needed a snick, telling

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you right now, I got no
chips, I got nothing else, but

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I do heal some little slivers of
meat. Here we go handed the sweaty

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meat. Here at bish at the
beach, sweaty sticks of beef cured beef.

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You know what I meant. Here
we go smoky, sweaty cured beef.

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Ah huh. I like it.
I like it. I'm feeling that

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shit. Everybody wants a piece of
the slim gym slim Jim spash at the

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beach. Oh yeah, I fucking
feel it. Uh, stick it up

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your ass fans. Uh oh uh, I'm digging it. I like it.

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I like it. Everyone wants a
slim gin Rick Fleer. You want

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a slim Jim, Here you go, and I getting it on one on

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one. I don't mean any disrespect, not trying to get in front of

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you, but here I go.
I got an extra piro slim gems.

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You want one, You and your
lady in the back and go back nibble

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on a slim Jim after the match. Not trying to force anything. Nope,

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Nope, not trying to force anything
on you. We get it done.

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But I want just want to offer
you something saying here as a moment

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to break Keith Fabe in front of
the fans. Uh. You and me

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sharing a gym in a gym.
Wonderful, You and me sharing a gym,

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a slim gym. One two three, I'm digging it. Here we

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go, get it on fire.
I'm looking at you right now like a

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man, the man. What do
you want? What are we doing?

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Where are we gonna go from here? What's the next step. I'm looking

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at the Kingdom of the madness.
It's filled with slim gems. You know

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what I mean. Hey, I'm
saying, hey, you know we were

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fucking leaking out, leaking out of
the window. Slim gym. Oh my

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god, you gotta say that.
You gotta chane a slim Jim. You

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gotta sorry. You got a chain
of gyms. I gotta chain of slim

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gyms. We're doing the same thing. Wait, because it gets better.

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One is about exercise the ether.
One is about exercising your right to eat

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sweaty smoke meat. Ah, shit. I'm telling you right now, these

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slim gyms have been out in the
sun a long time and that's the only

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reason why they're a little damp.
All right. They're not ones. I'm

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not saying they're bad. They got
them purchased today, all right, expires

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in two weeks. We got two
weeks to eat these. But they're but

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they've been outside now. There's no
place for us to go inside right now,

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so they maybe a little sweaty,
a little bit of that, if

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you will, condensation. You know
what I'm talking talking about now. I

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don't mean it is respect. Not
trying to pull anything over on you,

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on you fans, on your announcers, on any everybody who's snacking on a

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03:05:07.799 --> 03:05:11.520
slim gym right now. Not what
I'm trying to do. I'm here,

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I'm being honest. I'm telling you
the wave that it is. Macho man,

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03:05:15.719 --> 03:05:20.760
Randy Savage go through slim gyms this
morning at the hotel. All right

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here they are right now, Uh
huh. They might be a little sweitty.

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They've been out in the sun for
a little while. It's hot day

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out here at Huntingdon Beach. What
are you gonna do with the slump Gym.

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Are you gonna eat it? You're
gonna take it, You're gonna snap

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into it. I don't know.
That's up to you. Not my places,

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not my place to tell you what
to do. All right, you

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are your own people out there.
What I'm suggesting is that you all understand

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right now, Slim Gym is presenting
badge at the beach Bade best of number

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one show the summer, the biggest
party, the place. You're gonna take

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the meat. You're gonna eat the
meat. You're gonna shove it a bess.

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You're gonna take in your hends that
I got, my Slim Jim.

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I'm gonna shoot it off into the
fans. Now, if that he writes,

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wait, did I say that?
Is that what you're saying? He's

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saying you said all that? I
fucking said that. Jesus. Now,

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if that he concludes, isn't worth
my three sixteen every month and nothing is

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also? Come on, people,
don't be like me. It's thirty eight

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bucks a year. You know what
else? I pay thirty eight bucks a

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year for fucking dish washer, dish
washer, booster, powder, rock salt

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for my driveway. That's right,
cheese, It's get your wallets out and

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do what's right. Well, I
think you're geting rip off on the cheese.

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It's man, it shouldn't cast you
thirty eight dollars a year for cheese

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its it's slim gyms for that amount
year's supply. Thank you for making my

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life just a little bit better every
week. Thank you for hulcomania, and

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03:07:03.799 --> 03:07:09.680
thank you for filling my oozing filth
chasm, for always invading a hole that

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was at one time alone and empty, and for making me gape like Kerry

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von Eric's mouth as he scrambles for
the next line of a promo tool belt

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for Daddy aka Steve and Saint Louis. We'll see you next time on that

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03:07:24.000 --> 03:07:31.719
fucking casti Mountman As a TJ Tosanta's
production, its contents is intended for private

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use only.

