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Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, this the Ocelly effect.
You listening to us, and if you're hearing it, uh, let's
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six three one nine five two seven five zero one six. I almost don't
feel confident in that number at the moment. I'll tell you it's been a
weird week. Three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six
Really quickly, you know what. We didn't put out a lot of podcasts.
I was on with the New Prisoners one night I did a show and
then had to skip to and why because I had to have a technician come
out and replace my router today. So the good news was that I found
a new home for one of the puppies, so it was a lady technician
came out for Cox Cable and took home the last puppy from the one batch.
So now we got honeys puppies, which are actually up on YouTube and
on other video platforms now cause I put the camera on the puppies during the
New Prisoners. So there you go. Everybody got to watch the puppies feeding
off a honey puppy on my video feed. That's that. Okay, It's
been a weird week and it's gonna get weirder next week. We're gonna have
the third part because I've actually done an intentional series on the Octopus. Charlie
Robinson will join me next week to do that, and there's gonna be some
other stuff coming up next week and the following week hopefully. Been in contact
with some people I promised to be in contact with and been rejected and pushed
aside by some people that I thought I could get on the show Weird anyway,
whatever it is it is, but you can be part of the show
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Anybody can call in throw anything on the table they want because it's the
Friday Night open mic, and I don't care what my opinion is. Matter
of fact, I don't think I'm going to express my opinion any longer on
Friday Night. I might just ask questions on occasions. That's my new attitude
with this, and we'll see how it works or doesn't. Anyway, my
co host p Pete is with me and we have an additional uh surprise here
at the beginning of the show. I got Captain Trips on the line immediately.
So first I'm gonna check in with Bpte, see how he's doing,
and let him hand it over to Captain Trips. Be beat. What's on
your mind this week? Oh, nothing much. We're in the middle of
the start of NCAA tournament, so I've been distracted the past two days.
Go ahead and let you know my bracket crash yesterday when Kentucky couldn't beat a
fourteen seed. I swear to God. Other than that, we're waiting for
the rain to come in and wash away about four weeks of pollen. It
hasn't been washed away yet, so we're just praying for a nice two inches
in Georgia. In Georgia we got we got rain and polland in Georgia.
So it's like pollend slime in Georgia at this point, because it's not enough
rain to wash it all the way, but enough rain to make it like
slimy. Yeah, everything turns into a paste and then after it sits there
for a few days it looks like snot. It's really starting to get on
it. It's a bad year. And I don't know if it's because our
winter was warmer and maybe a little wetter than normal, but the pollen output
this year is unbelievable. It's terrible. But other I mean, catch it
up on the news of the day. We've got a concert venue in Moscow
that got attacked and a bunch of people did and hurt and bombs going off,
and we got Candae Owens was fired by the the Wire Dailey Wire because
of her spat with Ben Shapiro. What else have we got? Oh,
yes, we passed this massive budget supposedly today that they got at two thirty
in the morning and had to rush to pass. You know, you remember
all these pledges about giving us seventy two hours to see something online before it
hits the fans. So you know when all those Republicans out there, yes
Republicans, to pay attention to the amount of inflation that you guys just threw
on top of everything else. This has got one and a half trillion dollars
worth of borrowing in it, and eventually someone's gonna have to pay the interest.
So think about that when you think your paycheck's hurting. Now just watch
only. I thought, yeah, the promises are cutting crap. I'll tell
you part of the reason why we went to air nine minutes late is you
were telling me about some of the line items in this thing, which cracks
me up because usually that's attributed to the Democratic side of the equation. I
remember years ago in the eighties. I'm trying to think if it was eighty
six or eighty eight, when I read a line item about studying the masturbation
habits of a certain animal, some animal I never heard of, and studying
when they masturbate, and trying to think of how it is they and you
know, how do you acquire a study like that to begin with. I
mean you might be able to acquire the animals, you might have a zoo,
you know all that. But you were telling me about some of the
line items that weren't quite as outrageous, but still silly. You want to
talk about a couple of those because you help me up there a couple of
minutes getting live here, it's all that's not my fault. Don't blame me,
I said, you're patiently waiting for the phone to go off. So
I was five minutes later by myself. Remember I said that people would look
for return grants for more more money. Well, the one you just mentioned
in this budget, uh the well, I think it was in the budget
pass. The National Science Foundation, who we keep doubling of money for every
year to do all this stuff, studied whether Japanese quail on cocaine were more
promiscuous than Japanese quail that weren't on cocaine. So you see, it's an
ongoing thing. It's just a different twist to the study. Then these things
keep getting funded into, you know, perpetuity. The one I brought up
before we went to air was then the NIAAA and I'm not sure what organization
that is spent one hundred thousand dollars to study whether sunfish that drank tequila were
more aggressive than sunfish that dranksin huh, you know, and both two instances
of animals utilizing substances that are generally thought of as partaking up by human beings.
Interesting, How is it that you like what that purpose? Sorry?
Good, well, I think a lot of that. You know, you
can't experiment on people anymore, you know, certain groups just throw their hands
up over that. So I guess you have to find a species this is
closely related to humans in the aspects that are pertinent to that study. Like
I guess sunfish are better to tell the effects of alcohol, you know,
and apparently Japanese quail are better to test the effects of cocaine when it comes
to promiscuity. So I'm sure you've got to fit the proper species to whatever
test it is you're trying to prove, whatever theory you're trying to prove.
How would avian or you know, aquatic species of animal have anything. I
mean, it's not like you're geting a human result out of this. Aquatic
animals are clearly not going to even exist in the same world they they breathe
water. I mean, come on, what you know, and we don't
fly. Somehow, somehow you're testing the effects of the alcohol on certain receptors
in the fish that are linked to aggression. So I don't know how they
do it. I don't know. Actually we were laughing. How do you
make it? How do you get a fish to drink? You know?
And what's what? How big is a shot for a fish? I know
how big a shot is for me, and if they're skimming me at the
bar, and uh can raise hell appropriately, but when it comes to fish,
that's a tricky thing. And who knows. Maybe it's the Japanese quail.
It's got a certain chemical that reacts to something else in the brain and
that's why they choose those to somehow linked promiscuity to cocaine use. Yeah,
but quail lack an opposable thumb for a crack pipe. And also I'm not
sure if they've gotten the proper nostrils to put the dollar bill up to to
snort up a line. So, I mean, how is it you're going
to get a quail to take cocaine? They got they got a beat,
They got a build ten dollar bill. Okay, okay, look, I'm
not thinking like this because I can't far. I don't know. Hey,
look for scientific and medical advice. Though. We could turn to Captain Trips
here and uh, you know, Captain Trips, how is it that you
get a quail high en up, I mean and flying under the influence of
cocaine? Do you know anything about that? Or how do you get a
fish to drink? You got any ideas about this, Captain Trips, I
have to say that no, I am, I'm, I'm, I'm.
I just don't even know what to say anymore, to be quite honest with
you, Captain Trips did not have this on his Bengo card for tonight's show.
But it's a no. I just I just don't know fair enough.
I just figured I'd pose the question to you though, anyway, So be
beat anything else or before we find out what is actually on Captain Trip's mind,
before we go to the callers or whoever next, Just one thing,
you know, before we mentioned and somebody announced they were stepping down and when
we were off air, right before the show started, and to answer Championship's
question, Mike Gallagher a Republican in Wisconsin. He's going to actually resign like
next month, so he's not even finished out his term. So that leaves
Republicans with like a leverage of one seat for their mature Okay, because Buck
of Colorado also said he wasn't gonna run for reelection, So why this guy
leaven early? That leaves the Republicans with a majority of one. Well,
it seems to me like there's gonna be a ton of non returning, you
know, incumbents in this cycle. I don't know why, but I have
this idea in my mind that there's a bunch of them that said, look,
I'm just not going to run again. In both parties it was.
I don't think it was just Republicans. There were quite a few Democrats I
had heard come out. I mean, let's let's be honest. It's a
sinking ship. They're trying. They're just rafts jumping off the deck. You
know. Well, they don't want to be responsible for what's going to happen
next year. It's like, look, I'm gonna get out now, I
can already are. Of course they are, but they'll claim you know,
uh deniability, of course, you know, so uh but That's that's always
the game is can they claim deniability? Hey, listen, I left you
know, I'm no longer see that way when they become a pundit on CNN
or something, they can sit there and go, look, I'm not in
the Congress right now. I can tell you what it would look like if
I was there, but of course I'm not because now I'm just sitting here
waiting for you guys to call me. Yep, yeah, funny stuff,
which which, by the way, Uh look for me on Blaze TV next
Friday. Now I'm not going to say what time or whose show, but
I will be on Blaze TV next Friday. So yikes. I don't know
why they have not given me the agenda, and I know I'm not talking
to Glenn Beck, but other than that, I don't know who Shalman all
right, anyway, I'll leave it at that. But yeah, just just
speaking of people getting weird phone calls to go on TV anyhow. This is
what's going on, though, is these guys are gonna drop out, They're
gonna take a little breather, they're gonna kick back, and then sometimes they
return to politics, right they come back around and run again or they decide
to change. You know, they've been in the House of Representatives, they've
had five terms there, ten years in the House. Well, now they'll
go for a Senate seat, or they'll go for the governor, you know,
or God help us all. You know, they might enter into the
presidency and then we end up with Joe Biden or something, you know,
because he was the congress person and all that and then senator right and then
wound up being VP, et cetera. Anyway, lots of news there,
or maybe not so much news. It's all kind of a grown up the
white noise guy. Maybe either one of you can answer it, or maybe
whoever you know first calls in, maybe they can answer it. But just
a general question, Now, what was the problem when Obama ran that he
had to settle on Joe Biden as vice president? Because I know Hillary thought
that it was her turn and Obama just swept in out of left field,
took the spotlight, ended up getting a nomination. How the hell did they
decide on Joe Biden? Oh, I can give you the easy analysis on
that, but but I'd like Captain Trips take crack out at first if he
once I actually don't remember, to be quite honest with you, now that
you're saying it that that is kind of odd. Yeah, it was.
It was it was her turn and then she got herself trounced. Yeah,
I remember. I'm really happy to go back because that was what two thousand
and seven sixty seven that was happening, because I remember his prior plagiarism and
all I thought would come back, and you know, it's like, look,
dude, this guy ran on his own and we didn't want anything to
do with him. What makes you think we want him as vice president?
Now? Knowing full well Obama being the first black president and things that were
going on in the world, and suddenly Obama's pension for wanting to, you
know, take people out for driving while droned. He uh, I do.
I don't understand it. Did something happen during the primary or was it
that because Bernie got burnt and even before Hillary burned him? What is it
that ended up giving us Joe Biden? And I can't remember it. I've
been going through some old clips and stuff trying to figure it out, and
I cannot figure it out. How the hell we ended up with him?
Well, to me, it's pretty simple. But go ahead, well,
go ahead. And the only thing, the only thing I remember, and
I don't think this is probably the actual reason. All I remember is Obama
saying something about how Biden was a mentor to him when he was you know,
he he briefly a senator. But I don't I don't remember there.
I mean, I'm sure there was horse trading, but I don't recall it,
to be quite honest with you. Yeah, okay, so the obvious
horse trading wasn't the main feature here. See, the Democrats had not been
dispossessed of the idea yet that you know, somehow Hillary was going to be
popular with women. They had this idea that she was this popular figure somehow,
I don't know why. You know, seemingly women that were progressive were
going to like her, right, it was only the establishment right that hated
her. Now, you got to remember that Bush was a well supported president
at this point. People had started to get a little angry at the War
on Terror, but not much. Yeah, so he was still kind of
like, you know, the president to support. So it was about maintaining
establishment. Now Obama had no experience. According to most people, that was
going to be an easy vulnerability for him. Where's his experience, right,
He's got no experience in part policies, got very little experience in government.
What is he a community organizer? Nothing? So the idea was to add
Vanilla Joe to the equation to say, look, somebody is going to be
there to advise him about the way things really work. He was meant to
be like the babysitter to make everybody feel better so they wouldn't be as nervous
about the radical aspect of Obama. So that was just meant to shore up
that one part because Obama was easier, way easier to market than Hillary.
Nobody likes that woman, nobody ever has. I don't know how she.
Somebody ought to look into how the hell it is she got to be the
senator from New York, because I mean, I don't know how the hell
I never understood that. Good. Pat Mooynan set that aside, for she
had heard ties. Remember she was a lawyer that was on the what the
Democrat House side? What a journey impeachment? And so her ties went way.
Patrick boynihan bowed out to give her seat, But even so to actually
have her selected on a ballot, it makes no sense to me because I
knew people in New York at the time. Nobody I knew was like,
yeah, Hillary, you know, you could not find enthusiastics. So I
should have known this in twenty sixteen when she ran for president and the burning
of Bernie still wasn't all that big at that point. He hadn't caught the
momentum like he would some years later after the Obama administration, because the Obama
administration was seen as a left victory, you know, by the right especially,
but even on the left right it was a big, huge victory.
We actually got a black man elected, you know, and and therefore they
had that leverage for eight years of you know, criticize him, We'll call
you a racist. I mean I even suffered from that trying to write as
a writer. I got it's a whole story. But the thing is that,
you know, criticizing Obama was like, you did that and you had
the wrong skin tone. You were a bad guy. Uh. You had
to have the complexion for the connection in order to be able to criticize Obama.
So that was that. But the thing is, marketability wise, he
was he was smoother, he was quick with a quip, he was intelligence
sounding, he was a lot more marketable. He was a hell of a
lot more attractive as a candidate than Hillary was. And he was also he
was also unknown. That was the he didn't have he didn't have, I
mean, the his the not having the history, I think worked for him.
I think it was a risk that they did it, but in the
end, I think it actually worked for him because there really was no history
on the mame right. And that's the thing is that Biden was meant to
be the counterbalance there. Okay, we got a guy with no history,
we got a guy with no experience, but he's good, he's smart,
he can do the job and don't worry, Grandpa Joe will watch out for
him and advice so he doesn't do anything, you know, too radical.
So that was gonna be the idea there. Yeah. And I think the
other thing that Burnt Burnt missed my turn was she voted for the Iraq War,
and the Iraq War had really fallen out of popularity, even though Bush
did retain some popularity down toward the toward the end of his second term.
I mean, he even he went from a ridiculously popular president and then after
Katrina and after the whole Iraq War was a real everyone realized it was a
disaster. Well on the left, yeah, I mean he he kind of
you know, helped them out a lot with that whole you know, mission
accomplished landing on the oh yeah, you know, aircraft carrier and all that.
But it was on the left, true. But in general in the
country again, the country is not left. It is not you know,
it is definitely not left. It's not a leftist country. So, but
the but on the left yet the Iraq War, like if you were listening
to entertainers back there, everybody's like, George Bush is terrible. George Bush
is terrible, George Bush is Nazi. I remember, you know, cartoons
of comedians back then when it was like here's what pe Goldberg doing, stand
up? George Bush is awful, and people would laugh, you know,
and it was like, yeah, that's about the level of intelligence she had
in her act at that point, and you know, her the Robin Williams
is of the world. All that leftist comedian stuff was like anti Bush,
and the actual left at that time, which is irrecognizable from what you see
today, was against Bush. But in general the country was still with him.
The country was still about, you know, looking for that stability and
still wanting to be you know, you're talking two thousand and eight, right,
So two thousand and eight, it's still pretty fresh in our minds nine
to eleven, it's still we're still with that attitude. Yeah, the Iraq
War might have been a mistake, but even back then, it wasn't as
big a mistake as it would be seen later by the majority of the population
the way I see it anyway, But I but I easy see what the
deal was. Biden was an establishment vanilla, had always been there. Certainly
was part of everything the Crime Bill. He couldn't have been qualified as a
leftist because he voluntarily wanted to you know, lock up people during the Crime
Bill thing. Right, he was on that side of the equation, so
he could be seen as a left establishment figure to balance out Obama's possible wildcard
attributes. That's what it was. He was there to be a safety and
Hillary as per usual. They had not learned the lesson yet until twenty sixteen.
That she's just a despicable, unlikable and unrelatable creature. I mean,
that's all I remember in twenty fourteen when she was getting ready for the twenty
sixteen run up, and she immediately put her foot in her mouth saying,
you know, if you're a woman in your vote against Hillary Clinton and you're
not really a woman. And it was like, ooh, what are you?
This is not the thing you say in the twenty teens? What is
wrong with you? Not? You know, dictated to by their genitals as
far as their voting goes. You know, if you said that in the
eighties, you might have got away with it. You said it in the
seventies, you might have got away with it, nineties maybe, But by
the twenty teens, no, no, no, no, no, you
just put your foot in your mouth. And believe me, even leftists went,
ew, what is wrong with you? Out of touch? And that's
what she was, completely out of touch and why because she had no idea
that nobody liked her. She was not like you know, that's the other
problem here is that part of it is a popularity contest, right, so
even to have enthusiasm beyond display out there, you know that that's the one
thing that's absolutely legitimate about like the whole Trump movement is that there are people
that legitimately like him. You know, I love them. They love him
to death. They are buying. But you know, it has surprised me.
Some of the people that has interviewed Trump or been around him for years,
have known him for years, and they all talk like, you know,
on a personal level, the guy is great. He's funny. You
know, he's very generous, He's very easy going. I've never heard generous
from it. Okay, oh yeah, but I've heard several people make that
comment about him, things that he's done to help people out in the past.
Wow. But I mean, but that's Trump. You're you know,
you're you've got to have the Trump that the nation is out there beating their
heads against the wall over and then. I'm sure he's totally different away from
the cameras and just him being himself. But he's like every other politician.
He thrives on the attention. So I don't know of any politician that doesn't.
That's how they get elected, I don't. Untunately, not too many
other politicians would have the unmitigated gall to sell you rubber duckies made in their
likeness, though. I mean, and literally you can go the Trump twenty
twenty four store. I get the emails, all the time, and the
rubber ducky. I've been passing around the picture of it. It's a literal
rubber ducky, like you know, the exaggerated Trump hair and like, you
know seriously that that is one of the products. And we talked about the
Trump and ader bablehead and personality. People will buy that. It's like I
got Obama toilet paper in my restroom. You know. People buy that stuff
just to have it. They collect things, let's put it that way.
So, yeah, you know, the guy's running for president, he's got
a bobblehead. Okay, does he have a decent looking babblehead. That's the
trick. But Hillary, on the other hand, I can't remember what was
going on at the time. I mean, she wasn't going to take a
vice president slot because she felt like she should be where Obama was. It
was her turn. She paid her she had done her time as Secretary of
State. Well, I'm trying to think who else they had in the fold
that they could have gone to that left us with what we see today as
our president. I mean, that's the only reason he's president is because he
was vice president and actually president. Because I think they I think they knew
how cognitively in there he was. I really do, and I think they
wanted to use him because they tried that, Oh, we're going to return
to the you know, the the adults. The adults are now back in
charge. Yeah, really, really well, But I don't you know,
I don't know. I've actually given up on reading the tea leaves. I
there's no difference on a second trip to run for president, but there's a
big difference trips. There's a huge difference between why it is they really install
somebody and what it is they're selling that person as right, Biden was being
sold as the adult in the room, as you mentioned. I know,
it doesn't make any sense when you're take an honest look at the guy.
But then again taking a look at you know, Obama was going to bring
us hope and change, and you know things were going to be different.
You know Obama, he had he had to bite his tongue. I would
think Obama and the type of person that he was, and the narcissist that
he was, that he would have allowed a racist like Joe Biden to be
his vice president. That's the part I don't understand. Well. Biden at
that time was known to be one of the most bigoted people in the Senate.
I don't understand how he got to where he's at and how party can
I mean because Obama. If it wasn't for Obama making him his vice president,
he wouldn't have been elected president. I mean, he had to bite
his lift, I think, to accept that racist bastard is his underling.
Yeah, but the thing is this, though Biden wasn't being sold as a
racist. Biden was being sold as the opposite of a racist, which is
usually what you do. You sell the racist guy as what the ultra liberal.
That's usually the best way to go right. And you're also assuming that
Obama really had principles well, and he was useful, but again he's still
super useful as an establishment figure. And back then Joe Biden wasn't he and
considerable as as a candidate on his own. I got honey barking and everything.
Now, Uh so what I'm gonna do is kill my mic and uh
and bring on a caller, be Pete, Okay, because I got a
straighten out the dog thing here. But I'm gonna grab a callar. We
got a few of them on the line. Okay, Well, that's happen.
Are you there? Give me James, it's here. I think this
chuck Chuck muted himself to take care of the little canine canine issue, but
he said he was bringing on a caller, which I guess is Jimmy James.
Yeh, Jimmy, how are you doing? What's on your mind tonight?
Oh? Just listening to the conversation. Uh, let's see. So
Uh, I'm actually interested. I just want to listen right now. So
fair enough, fair enough, I'll move on to another caller. Jimmy will
bring you back on. Okay, Ah, crap, Honey, went at
it again. Hold on, We'll get another caller and I'll shut off my
mic again. Jimmy expected more from you right off the bat, especially with
the conversation about the drinking fish. I was hoping maybe you could explain how
you get a fish to drink. You know, at this point, I
think I should. I think I'm just gonna start focusing on intoxicating on intoxicating
aquatic life. Yeah, I feel like giving a shot of booze to the
dog. But we have a new caller on the line. You're a live
who are we speaking with? Yeah, I'm just I'm just a stock.
Oh hey, Harlan, how are you doing nothing? I said, I
jumped in here, and you know, see what the conversation how it was
going to that stare a little shit and see what I can get Jimmy for
it us about well, I'm wrong, I'm back on the Trump train.
Now, I'm on officially back on the Trump train. I had a friend
of mine today said he was getting some new advertising griff going on at a
a Trump store in the East Tennessee, and he said that if I would,
you know, record a little commercial that said, you know, I'm
arling Stonewall and I proved this grift, you know, he'd give me half
his money and go out and tell everybody, you know, I'm back over
on the Trump train and everythings since now I'm getting paid, you know,
to be on it, you know, like always other ship they dos for
the last six years. But I did want to announce that here publicly into
the world that I am officially back on the Trump train. I'm like a
lot of people, you know, it's worked for Trump the past. I'm
still waiting on my money, but it just ain't been that long. Give
him the chains, you know. I'm just sitting back here, and if
trust to plan to the to the money just goes to raining from the sky.
Awesome. You need to collect that check, Harland, all right,
uh so Harlan officially back on. I remember we're talking, we're talking about
the Orange Jesus. You know Orange Jesus. You couldn't take a check from
him. You need cash, you know, where a bank war. But
you know anyway, you know, if he did send you a bank war,
you'd probably get charged the for for out. You know, because everybody
you know, if ever had anything to do with if him, they get
it in my ice maned up in jail or so. So cash, pieces
of silver or cryptocurrency are all acceptable. Yeah, well, you know he
should have his own crypto currency. I think, you know a couple of
years ago that he should I actually have his own crypto cuarancy because you know,
if she's think about it, votes and I'm being serious, really make
some money. Because if somebody go out here for after looking at his trip,
to look at his shoes, I don't think I want to trust it
within. But you know what that coin, if somebody made a Trump coin,
I promise you this, it would work. Yes, it would and
I would. I would probably dump some money into it and get out of
it quickly because I could see something like that spiking up and then then completely
collapsing. But if you kind it right, you might be able to make
some cash. Absolutely, Harlan, Harlan, you need to stop giving away
your best ideas. I'm putting you on hold for a sec. But that
is the greatest thing I've heard on this show in months. Hold on,
Harlan, because there's other callers, so I want to know, is anybody
look, I would probably take money into the Trump crypto coin because I guarantee
it would make money for six months. Okay, so in those first six
months I would get in on it. I mean, even if you got
one hundred bucks to throw in on it. It's sort of like when I
got offered bitcoin for eighty bucks a pop. I should have done it,
Okay. Anyway, another caller here and nine one six alive. Danny,
Yah, Danny, How is everybody doing doing? Okay? Danny? I
don't know why nobody else is answering you, but I'm off and on the
mic here, no worries. All sorry doing doing well? I had walked
away and I was mute, No worry. Yeah, they you guys were
talking about Hillary. And one thing that the biggest problem that I saw with
her whole campaign was her inability and even a lot of the Democrats their inability
of her self reflection because she just ran two horrible campaigns. I mean,
somebody who knew it from her husband that there was a you know, they
had a lot of enemies, and you know, she made a lot of
mistakes, you know, like you know, through all the Benghazi investigations.
You know, she's got the private server, which you know that was the
damage her politically, and she goes off and going to Goldman Sacks. They
won't release the well d transcripts. Danny, let me let me interrupt your
your dad, Let me disrupt your train of thought. Let me just disrupt
your training thought on this for a second, because in two thousand and eight,
I don't think the DNC had realized how hated Hillary really was, how
undesirable of a candidate she really was. Just yet in two thousand and eight,
I think they were still under the delusion that she was marketable, even
by a connection to the popularity of her husband, because her husband was still
seen as you know, what we live better. When Bill Clinton was in
office, a lot of people had said that, you know, times are
better, My money went further, I could afford things when Bill Clinton was
in office. So people thought that she was a desirable candidate because she was
marketed back then as being part of the decision making process, right. She
was, you know, part of Billy's Billy Boy's intellectual set. Even though
he didn't want to go near her with you know, anything that had to
do with naked time, he definitely was using her as an advisor in some
people's minds. So she was seen as still a desirable candidate in two thousand
and eight, and they didn't realize yet that nobody could relate to her as
a creature. She wasn't even seen as humanized among people. And they didn't
get it in two thousand and eight, just yet. What do you think
about that? I think you're right because as she ran and they looked at
Obama like you said, he was a nobody, and he ran a good
campaign. And remember the comedies went into free fall, you know, the
stock market crash and the comedy the House of Cards was collapsing, and a
lot of that had to do was with her husband administration, collaborating with all
the deregulation the financial industry. I mean it was it was coming home.
It came home to roos So and she wouldn't give it up. And it
did not make her look good. She was looking for a miracle and Obama
was beating the socks off of her and it just didn't make her look good
at all. And I think that left it bad, you know, just
left her vulnerable. Right, makes sense? Right? And Biden again,
I say, was the was the easy vanilla balance? And uh, you
know, Danny, I'm gonna I'm gonna switch over to somebody else here because
we got two other colors behind you. But I'm gonna come back around to
everybody, So stick around on the lines, all of you that want to
get stuff in. And Jimmy James didn't even get off the starting block,
but I bet you she's got some thoughts now, so I'm gonna put you
on hold. And then we got let's see another wireless caller, uh,
not identified, and I don't think it's Harlan again, but maybe I'm mixing
it up. Let's see, is this Harlan again or is this that?
Oh okay, that's my wrong wireless caller. Hold on, Harlan, I'm
gonna put you back on hold. See I'm getting a little mixed up here.
Oh, there it is. Here's another wireless caller. Actually, this
is a totally unidentified caller. Uh three five two area code. You're alive
to Christs from Florida. How are you doing? Chris from Florida. Yes,
I hear you. Okay, I just accidentally turned myself up a little
too loud there, but Chris, Yes, yep, we hear you.
I finally from Florida. I thought it was just me. There you go,
Captain Trips and Chris both calling from Florida, or as Captain Trips calls
it. Uh, what is it? De Santa Stan? Is that what
you call Disanta Stan? Yes? Happy to be in the street that actually
has a metal sign that says that I can't help but chuckle every time I
drive past it. What part of what are you from? If I may
ask? Oh, I'm up, I'm in the northeast. I'm pant of
Bedri Beach to south of Jacksonville. Okay, I'm okay, okay, all
right, you know, yeah, far off. According to a lot of
metrics, on the Podcatchers. We do have a lot of listeners in Florida,
so I'm surprised sometimes you guys don't run into each other. Honestly,
it's weird. There's a lot in we probably do don't realize Florida and California.
Oddly enough, I have a fair concentration of listeners in both places and
sometimes Texas, but not always anyway, just saying it's one of those weird
things. So what's on your mind tonight, Chris, Oh, quite honestly,
not too much realistic. I was I was trying to catch your last
tream online and where I live in the forest, I don't really have a
internet provider to rely on, uh so I have to rely on my cell
phone. And I was trying to catch your live stream on your Llilly dot
com and I was getting the previous episode, so I really don't have anything
to chime in on at the moment. I was just going to catch episodes.
Yeah, I understand, I totally understand. You know what. I
was actually knocked out part of the week and had to have Cox come in
and switch out my router even because the router totally crapped out on me.
This week, so I did not do too many live shows. But yeah,
so it's a lot of repeats on the stream, but we've got stuff
on there twenty four hours a day. It's just that I can only put
up the newest stuff when I make new stuff. And we will be followed
at ten pm Eastern tonight by Aaron Franz with the age of transitions everybody,
So that'll be live. But anyway, Chris, if you don't have something
that you really want to add in here, you don't want to talk about
the balance of Joe Biden and Obama in the past and how that actually worked
out, which leads to him being electable as a president only because he was
vice president under Obama. I'm a quite frankly, That's that's where we're at.
But if you got something you don't then I'll move on to the next
caller and maybe we can get back around to everybody. What do you think,
Chris, No, And the only thing I can say to that is
it's pretty much the same. Uh, it's the same. It's you know,
they call him what is it, o Biden? You know they call
him that for a reason. You know, it's the same administration. But
that from that. That's all I really had to see if you want to
move on and move on and I'll just continue listening for the meantime. Yeah,
we'll do that. And the Obiden thing I remember famously was first uttered
by what was that? God? Why does her name always slip my mind?
But I can see her face and I remember the McCain's running mate there
in uh that one year, uh, the governor of Sarah Palin. I
can always see her face, and I remember her saying stuff, and I
remember Tina Fey. I think it was doing the impression of her, but
I think she was the first one to say O Biden accidentally mixing up you
know, Obama and Biden together, and people have run with that ever after.
Funny funny stuff to me. But anyway, let's see. Oh look,
we got another familiar caller on the line, so I'm gonna bring him
on. And I think we got advanced with us. So a couple of
guest suggestions coming from Vance recently and I am working on those vans. We'll
see what happens. But anyway, what's on your mind tonight? Brother?
Just say most sa mo, how are y'all? You know we're doing it.
We're having to talk about the past and how it is that Biden got
added to the Obama ticket and how despicable and dislikable Hillary Clinton was. But
the Democrats didn't quite face that reality in two thousand and eight just yet,
but they did later. I mean, you know, what are you gonna
do? But you know, Obama was more marketable. Alabama was definitely more
marketable, and he did that. You know, what did you say,
be Pete about driving well droned or what driving all drone strike or something?
Well, you know you're back. I guess it was what in the seventies
when you started hearing about driving while black and the interested Well, you know,
Obama was famous for droning people, so you know it's fitting. Yet,
Yeah, liberal use of the drone strike, you know, mechanism there
as an executive for sure by Obama, which was funny because Nobel Peace Prize
that was another fun part of his whole thing, right as soon as he
gets in there. Pretty much when did they give him the Peace Prize?
I got to look that up. They gave him the Peace Prize before he
even got into office. Really, yeah, I don't even think he'd been
inaugurated yet, Yeah, they gave him the prize and then he turns around
and pulling stuff like this. I mean, basically, he proved that if
the government wants to take you out, all they have to do is wait
for you to get in the car and go somewhere and they'll take you out.
You know, it's amazing you can kill Americans overseas without any due process
whatsoever. Oh yeah, anyway, Yeah, I'm gonna look that up though,
just to check on it. But anyway, Vance, I'm sure you
got something else on your mind aside from this. If you want to drop
it in, go ahead. We might go to a quick break and then
go back around through the line on the phone lines, because we got like
six people on the line right now. Yeah cool, I can wait till
after break or whatever, you know, six minutes, ex minutes or whatever.
And I've encouraged one of the commenters on your episode on TNP the other
day to call in tonight, so maybe he'll call it. Maybe he's one
of them. Ah, that would be good. Look. New callers definitely
welcome, more than happy to hear from them. Old callers too. Anybody
please call in, drop anything you want on there, I did the puppy
cam again, a different set of puppies from what I did with Tee Snyder.
As I think I already mentioned this at the top of the show.
Never mind, but I got yeah, Honey's puppies are out online. And
I ended up giving one of the other puppies to the lady that came from
Cox Cable to swap out my router because my router had gone and taken a
you know, taking a ad crap to bed here. So it was done
for apparently you can only have him two years or a year and a half
now, and then you got to replace him. So this is why I
rent my equipment as supposed to continuously buy in these stupid things. Anyways,
So all right, Nancy, you know what, I will put you on
hold. B Pete, anything that we need to address before we go to
break. Yes, Duke is ahead fifty to forty four over Vermont in their
opening game. Oh that good little sports update from B Pete. Let's see
Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize October. Let's see October eighteen looks like October eighteen
of two thousand and nine. Whoa okay, okay, So that will have
been into his first year. Yeah, so before the end of his first
year, before the end of his first term, because yeah, he would
have taken office. Okay, if he was selected in eight then he would
have taken office in nine right January, and therefore nine months later Peace Prize.
Yeah. Uh face shifter wants to remind us about black Irish and uh
yeah, I don't know why, but maybe that's got something to do with
Obama. Although I gotta say, I'm not sure if his mom was Irish.
I don't. I don't know if she was, she might have been.
Well, you say what you want. I'm never going to get the
picture of Obama and mom jeans out of my head. I mean, he
was just such a twink. I just can't believe it. I think she
may have been done him. Was her last name? Wasn't it done Him?
Yeah? Irish, wasn't it? Wasn't it Stanley in Dunham. Wasn't
his mother's name, which I think is an iris I think that's an Irish
name, Yeah it is. Yeah, but let's see Obama's mother's name.
I don't know. Maybe that's yes Stanley and Dunham, yes, gotta say.
And also, you know, I know this doesn't count for anything,
but quite frankly, they got a picture of her when she was very young,
and she definitely looks like a young Irish girl who New York was an
American anthropologist to specialize in economic anthropology and world development of Indonesia. She was
the mother of Barack Obama. I don't know what was her ethnicity, Dunham.
She's Irish. Well, you know, she's white. She's as white
as you can get, pretty much. Although you know, some people would
say that Irish people are not you know, white, but that's okay.
But the same people would would call me an Afro Italian for me Sicilian.
He was raised raised don't you remember his comments in the one speech he gave
where his grandmother was afraid to walk down the street, you know, with
a with a black man. And I'm sitting here thinking, okay, let's
just trash your whole white side of your family so you can embrace that blackness.
And the people forgot that he's half and half. He's a zebra.
Let's see. I promised to promised Land his new memoir, Promised Land.
I'm looking back at an article. I don't know, I'm trying to look.
I don't see anybody. Let's see about the diverse family on one side.
His reaction too, and students at the universe. He has met his
students at the University of Hawaii. Okay, the book The Bold and Reckless
Life of President Obama's Father and the two we came all right, anyway,
I was just trying to figure out what her ethnicity is is categoryrised as and
it's just white anyway? What can you do? White people is just not
I don't know. I don't like it as a descriptor because it just says
to me, you know, first of all, we don't know how to
cook too well, probably don't know how to dance, and we get sunburned.
Uh. And I've got some of that in me. I know that,
but uh, you know I I I thank my walking up right God
that I've got some Sicilian in me to balance it out. But you know,
nothing wrong with be in whatever you are. And I say, celebrate
it all. And we're going to try to do that on the show tonight.
How about that. Let's celebrate ethnicity everybody. Maybe, well, we'll
do our own diversity thing here. Let's celebrate everybody's ethnicity. No, all
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During the break, we'll hear from Captain Tripps and then we'll get back
around to those waiting online in order best I can based on what I see
on my switchboards. So, b Pete, what was that piece of information
that I missed last segment? Oh, I thought you had her Wikipedia page
of it. I was going to say if you'd kept scrolling down and says
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Irish German and Swiss German, and that wild Bill Hitcock was her sixth
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let's see Captain Trips. You got anything you want to add in before
we go back around, because you mentioned while Bill Hickcock, I think we
might have somebody somehow ancestrally linked to Jesse James. Doesn't that name sound familiar
when you think about one of our regular callers, and he'll be the first
one up when we go to the phone line. But before we go there,
Captain Trips, did you have something you wanted to add? Well,
I'll bring up that segment that I are, that piece that I said before
I did. One thing I am grateful for Barack Obama for was prior to
you know, I got into politics right after nine to eleven and the Republicans
were in control of everything, and we had the war. So I you
know, I naively thought, I naively took the man at his word.
Didn't take long for me to realize that, like you said, all he
was was Bush dark right, So good wake up call? Yeah, the
peace president exactly? Yes, yes, so be beat. Anything else before
we go back to the phones. Well, I was reading the headline here.
Interesting thing out in California. This apparently they passed a new law that
says that you cannot show mug shots to see. County form of police department
published suspect images with lego heads instead of faces in response to a new woke
state law that prohibits law enforcement agencies from posting mug shots of people accused of
nonviolent offenses on social media. So to get around it, they put the
mug shot up with a lego head on top of the picture to cover the
face of the end individual. Wait, they put a lego head on a
mug shot? Really? Yeah, because they can't show the mug shots.
They've got a new law. They can't show blugshots of suspects for non violent
offenses. Okay, because a coup of ice fell all over the place in
front of me over here. I missed part of that was that in California?
Yes, yes, it was if they list the city. Yeah.
The murray Atta Police Department has found a comedic way to comply with the new
law and issued a series of arrest photos which consist of lego heads with a
variety of facial expressions photoshopped over the faces of suspects. Wow, okay,
Well, it's gonna get really weird if they start trying to adjust ethnicity on
the lego heads, because most of them are yellow. But if you start,
you know, only using the yellow ones for Asians, let's say,
and then you start using a black magic marker, or you start bleaching them,
or it might get really weird. I'm just saying, and people might
start calling racist Legos. Maybe Legos will be racist next. I'm just everything
else. Everything else is Sonny is what else? What else did I hear
was racist? I've got a list I'm starting. I'll have to go back
and look at it. Isn't there some racist candy bars? Wasn't I read?
Yeah? I think I read an article a couple months ago about that
racist candy bars. Do you remember which ones they were? No, I
have to I'll have to refer back to my list. Is that the same
list that we've got Jamie on? Oh? Wait, I wasn't supposed to
say that. Well, I don't know anyway. Three Musketeers maybe is racist
because it's all white guys. But then again, you know, I don't
know. Is it is Mike and Ike? Are they? Is that white
people names? I'm not Mike. I thought they were supposed to be Irish
or something. Well, yeah, but at one time, you know,
again, the Irish were we're not seen as you know, the totally a
totally human class of white people. It was weird. So I don't know,
you know, it depends tough time people are going to be able to
connect red hots to some Satanic group. So you know, it's just a
matter of time. It could be. It could be. I mean,
do you think the box is green just because of the Irish? You know
connection? Is that what the deal is? Everything that's Irish has to be
green. What ethnicity would lemonheads be? Ooh, I don't know. Oh
maybe they're gay. M that's interesting, like Burton Ernie because you know when
I passed around the regularity. But to research that, well, look,
if somebody wants to do the research on it, let us know. I
mean, anything with fludge, if it's packed into a uh, you know,
a tube or something. I mean, could be also Anyway, I'm
sorry, I shouldn't have said that. Let's just go to the callers,
bring them up. Yep. So jj am I imagining things? Or are
you somehow related to Jesse James? I am? There you go, there,
you go. A lot of us have interesting people in our family trees.
Gotta say, Jesse James, that's a good one though. I like
that one. You know, he's one of the better. Wait a minute,
Jesse James the wait, Jesse James the Western Guy, or Jesse James
the wrestler, or or Jesse Jesse James or Jesse James the porno actress stripper.
No, I think he means the Gunslinger. Yeah, I was thinking
less part of the James gang. Jesse James, right, yes, yes,
yes, yes, the original, the original, that's right. I
don't know, not about racist Candy Burst. Uh you said so about Vance's
guest. What about my guest I tried to get You don't think he's worthwhile?
Oh? Absolutely, I think he's worthwhile. But I was trying to
figure out how to connect with him. I saw the screenshot, and uh
yeah, I saw the screenshot and I didn't see a link in that email.
But my internet all those phone numbers and email and everything, all right,
Well, my internet was down. My internet was down for part of
the a little while here because I had to have the router replaced. But
let's see. Well, now I have a jpeg and it says personal email.
Okay, there's a personal email address and a small picture, so I'll
get on that. But that wasn't present in the email before. I wasn't
getting the whole email, I guess. And on the other the other one
has phone numbers, it does, yep, there are pictures. Okay,
Now I got the pictures, but they weren't coming through on the email before
because I guess I wasn't completely connected to the Internet until they swapped out my
router. So something weird happened. Well, the track times have been actually
the internet for a couple of weeks, trying to kind a true. Well,
somebody, somebody knocked out my router, which was fine, and then
this suddenly wasn't. So I don't know what went on there, but it
got really really hot, like I had one of those smoking, hot,
freaking routers for some reason, and so it got all heated up and had
to be swapped out. All right, I got a question. You said
that Jimmy James was Jimmy James, and then he said the James Gang.
So was he related to somebody in the James Gang when Joe Waltsh was there?
No, No, it's not the band. Yes, but only during
the song, uh lie to me? Was that? Yeah? Only at
that Pekaylor's song was a member of the James Gang? President I stand correct.
What can I say anything else you want to add in Jimmy Yes,
I think so. Oh, let's see what were we doing about before the
fall the whole Obama scenario. Well, the funny thing about that guy is
Pay's got absolutely no common experience with black Americans. For instance, the private
school he attended to in Hawaii, like in the nineteen eighties, I know
for a fact, costs fifteen thousand dollars a month to attend that private school.
Now in the seventies when he wanted, maybe is a little cheaper expensive
though, Yeah, oh I'm only the I mean it's school for very wealthy
elite or in his case, you know, his grands was cidde case officer.
Yeah, didn't his grandmother's connected to the bank or something as well.
I mean they were well to do. His grandparents were very well to do
at that time in Hawaii. Well, it's strange because they were trying to
market him as you know, being the child of a single mom. You
know, kind of like the whole thing with Bill Clinton right where it was
like, oh, pretty much my mom was just the one who raised me
kind of deal. Right. Yeah, she's over in Jakarta working for the
government, pull it in pretty good money. She she was very educated.
His mom was very educated. She worked in Jakarta for years under these government
agencies, these government funded offices and was teaching English, I think on a
university level when she came back to Hawaii. So yeah, I mean they
were doing well. They could afford the school, no doubt about it.
They have it. Anyway, With that, you want me to move on
to the next color, Well, alrighty, let's do that, and let's
see. You know what I'm having trouble with. Who's you right here?
But I think this might be uh, Danny, Yeah, there you go.
Yeah. Yeah. My grandmother was from County Down, Ireland, and
when they came over here to northern California, small town, she said they
kept calling him dirty foreigners. And she said I never understood as always took
the baths every night. So so that's my relation to Ireland. Hey,
I really appreciate that you bought on talking about the octopus with Ed Auferman.
Then you had Albert Lania. I thought this were pretty good. But Albert
and I listened to Bill Hamilton for three hours that Ed Aufferman interviewed him.
He's older and you know, a little confused, but he was. He
was pretty interesting listening to him. But I remember when that whole I didn't
pay attention to too much. I never really caught it on the national There
was a small newspaper guy on our local radio station and was talking about the
depth of Danny Castillo or the you know, the murderer suicide or suicide.
But I did end up watching that whole The Conspiracy on Netflix, the four
parts series, and I thought it was a couple of things I thought was
real interesting. Was the doctor Earl Brian And later on after that I found
out that he was convicted in nineteen seventy six. He was supposed to every
said he has mister credibility and for a massive amount of bank fraud and he
actually went to jail after that. I know, you lie up some other
guests. I mean, maybe they might have some more information, but I
know about him if I find it really interesting. But I have been that
Cabazon reservation, that's fact. Some friends took me out. Really has a
really nice casino right now, had a great dinner there. And you've also
mentioned Gary Webb, and I read his book The Dark Alliance twice and they
talked about the Cabazon Indian tribe and weapons and with you know, the drugs
going in and out in Nicaragua. And yeah, he kind of also died
under mysterious circumstances too, being shot twice for suicide. Well that's why I
mentioned it, because again you got another weird circumstance where there's, you know,
the one guy slashes his wrist what of fourteen times, and the other
guy figures out a way to shot himself in the head twice. You know,
it's worthy of mentioning first thirteen that was Hesitation March. It was the
fourteenth when they got it. Yeah, okay, but it's it's wild,
and you know that's why Charlie Robinson, I think, will be a little
more detailed about some of these aspects. And uh Ham, Look, the
whole thing with that guy who was the original you know Inslow guy, is
he's had a lot of strange things to say that have not entirely wrung true,
which they showed part of that in that Netflix documentary. But here's the
thing, all of these characters that have been you know that that you wind
up chasing down throughout that whole story. Like the one true fact in there
is when that you know, that kid on there goes well, you know,
I realize everybody's crazy. That's and it's true. It's like everybody is
this mixed bag of Like if I were choosing disinfo agents to dispatch to make
sure that everything was kept confused, these are the kind of people I would
select, people with tainted backgrounds, who could be easily you know, discredited
and undermined, and then would undermine themselves by spinning the stories out of control,
which you know, which always makes me think Judy Baker. But anyway,
uh, you know where it's like you dispatch people intentionally to make sure
that there's no way ever to have a credible through line on a story like
this. And do I think reporters get killed. Certainly they do when they
touch the wrong thing. And I think, you know, part of the
issue here is that that whole interconnectivity with the Indian Reservations and the underworld and
where you have government converging with organized crime. That stuff I know is true,
you know, and I know it's true firsthand. I know it's true
where you have you know, look Indian reservations for a little while, we're
like a cash cow for a lot of different and a lot of different ethnic
organized crime groups. A lot of the European groups, especially and especially during
the rise of the Russian mobsters. I mean, there was a ton of
stuff you could do because of the sovereignty of the the native lands, you
know, and indeed, you know, nobody ever asked where the money comes
from for these casinos and all these other things. A lot of times they
don't ask because if you really dig on it, it gets into a really
murky world where guaranteed it's not above board. I mean, it's just the
way of things. So the idea that they were sitting there, you know,
like dealing arms and working with chemicals and everything else, and thinking to
themselves that they had an insulated situation. I mean, where do you think
they can conceivably cook up all this meth? They're not doing it in the
suburban neighborhoods. They're not doing it in the inner cities where it's expensive to
rent an apartment and your neighbors know when you fart next door to them.
Okay, you got to go somewhere where there's just a piece of land that
nobody pays attention to. And guess what, the Indian reservations provided that for
a very long time. So you know, a guy like Rikona Shuddo was
smart enough to do a lot of things but also has a tainted background and
clearly has you know, some sort of mental problems. At the same time,
is perfectly useful and again is an excellent agent of disinformation where he's connected
to some legitimate things. But we'll spend stories out of control, we'll exaggerate
things, we'll you know, try to make his own importance higher and higher
and all that. So it's not a question of as to whether the octopus
is one thing or another thing. And by the way, I mean completely
outdated ideals if you think about it honestly in context at this point, the
idea that the government has you know, back doors into computer software and is
spying on everybody, it was revolutionary at the time that somebody started dealing this
stuff to foreign nations and oh gee, big surprise, the CIA is spying
on our allies and our adversaries. No kidding, But they had a perfectly
valuable computer program that worked for the time, generations behind what it is we're
dealing with today. But still big story of interest and influence and all that.
And what it does is it reveals kind of like the infrastructure more than
anything. Does it get to a specific individual, I don't think so.
But it just it peels back some of that layer that you know, again
is part of the invisible part of doing business when it comes to you know,
the the intersections, if you will, of again organized crime, intelligence,
the drug world, all of it converges at certain points. You know.
That's why I liked it when Lanier brought up the dark web, and
I said, yeah, this is pretty much like the dark web, where
this stuff exists. It's there all the time, but it's only accessible if
you know exactly how to get to it. And that is the definition of
the dark web. It's the same thing, right, you know. Well,
what I thought was really interesting with Albert set mentioned is he really wanted
to do it investigate into John Booth Nichols, and then he mentioned the Akuza,
which is I believe Japanese organized crime. I thought that, which I
thought was interesting because I was a twist. Didn't sound like I was a
little I didn't really understand. He said he didn't. He had watched the
documentary, so it sounded kind of skeptical. But I can understand because there's
probably a lot there that was left on the floor. You know, they're
going to tailor how they want to make it but I found also I stumbled
across something else. It was a one of the three men. It wasn't
Alvarez, it was the other gentleman that was killed there on the Indian reservation.
It was her. His daughter started investigating, and there was the Jimmy
Hughes. I believe he was the security that Nichols had at the Cabazon Reservation.
He was now a pastor in Guatemala, but then he was in like
preaching of the church in president so his it was his granddaughter. They put
it on TikTok that his daughter went to the and confronted him in the church,
and you taped it, and I heard the tape recording, and he
is basically the past, the past, the past of the past. He's
the guy killed people, but the past of the past. And then he
mentioned you really need to look at John Booth Nichols, almost like implicating him
for the murders. Yeah, but unfortunately with that guy, you know,
he died a couple of months after giving that. You know that that deposition
where he's sitting there pretty much pissed off. And he's even given a deposition
which reminded me a lot of one of the guys who was involved in Watergate
and all that stuff. Uh, one of the guys who was at one
point on Garrison's list of people that he was trying to extradite. Good God,
I should know this guy's name off the top of my head. But
like sort of just to catch all kind of guy who was doing everything Gordon
Ovell, you know, who was out there doing all kinds of different stuff,
except Gordon Ovell worked with sound equipment much like what Racconna Shudo was doing
as a teenager. Novell was doing that kind of stuff. But these guys
always pop up in these weird situations like anywhere from you know, the guy
who tried to build the car there that they used him back to the future,
Uh, you know, popping up anywhere from there to you know,
showing up as asking the CIA to help them out with stuff, you know,
which most people wouldn't do in their normal course of doing business, you
know what I mean. Yeah, like like a Gordon Ovell kind of character.
And you see a couple of those guys pop up in this whole thing.
So, like I said, I'm gonna have to continue the conversation,
but I'm building it up as I go with more details and no, neither
one of them had watched Neither one of them had watched the documentary yet,
but all of them had heard from people that were either in the documentary or
had been contacted about the documentary, which was really strange, uh, where
they were like surprised that this thing came out and you know, they were
given none to the warning or do you want to respond to this or that?
Like at the end of the documentary, you notice they say, we
we asked if this person wanted to be interviewed. They said no, you
know. Uh, But honestly, the side we're hearing is nobody contacted anybody,
nobody warned anybody it was coming out, and they've somehow made this kind
of a you know, a viral, successful, popular, you know,
true crime thing, and Netflix is doing pretty well with it. So,
you know what, I didn't joint the documentary. I thought it was really
interesting, bought back a lot of a lot of memories from you know,
I'm hearing about it, and read reading some books on the subject matter.
It was interesting. Let me ask you a question about that though, because
I was watching the documentary and I picked up on a weird thing there which
nobody has mentioned in the reviews or anything. But you know the lady that
was like saying, well, I dated, uh, you know, Danny
briefly, but then I was his good friend for a long time. That
woman, uh, I can't remember her name, but did you get the
impression that she was almost like going for like a cougar move on the uh
the one filmmaker there where she was like, and you kind of look like
Danny and you know, hey, did you pick up on that about it?
Yeah? You're yeah, the actually you did at one point did kind
of look go up with Keesslo. Yeah, it was kind of that was
kind of awkward. Yeah, wasn't that like a weird awkward sort of like
seemed like somebody just intentionally stuck that in there to like just to be weird.
And I don't think anybody's taking it like they were embarrassing her or what.
Yeah. I couldn't tell what the purpose of them including that was,
but it was weird, right. It was sort of like, are you
trying to make her look strange here? Because she was all, you know,
like truly good friend and close to him and this and that, and
she's crying over him still you know, thirty years later, and and meanwhile
she looks up at the guy and she's like, hey, but you kind
of look like Danny baby, what's up? You know? Like it was
weird? Yeah, that was that was kind of that was kind of weird.
Okay, I just I don't know what about fair enough? Not just
me? Then? Thank you. I appreciate that, man. So I'm
gonna put you back on hold again. We'll try and get around everybody.
Maybe other people want to comment on The Octopus. But Captain trips or or
bepeed either, why at you? I don't know if one he wants to
talk about the Octopus. The recent Netflix uh you know series that has now
gone out there. It's getting attention. But The Octopus is a long time
good. Yeah. I haven't seen I haven't seen it. I'm familiar with
the with the story Danny Casselon's story in The Octopus, but I haven't seen
I haven't seen the minis here or the Netflix series, so I probably wouldn't
have anything to add on that one. Well, when you do, or
if you do watch it, check out that part with that lady I'm talking
about. I think it's in episode three and they're just this section that sort
of comes out of nowhere where she's like and you kind of look like Danny,
and you almost see like an awkward moment kind of there where it almost
seems like she's trying to hit on him in the middle of you know,
crying over Danny Castileiro, which I found really odd. And I don't know
if it was an editing choice or if that's the way it flowed, or
like what was the purpose to leave, Like I would have cut that if
I was making that that documentary. But you know, anyway, should we
go to another caller, beat Peter, you want to drop something in?
No, I was gonna say, I'm unfamiliar as well with the series.
I haven't seen anything I've ever read anything about it. If I couldn't add
very much, So if you want to go to the next caller, by
all means. And I did reach out to to the UH filmmakers, the
company. I found the website and I reached out to them, and I
have not heard a response yet. As far as you know, I'd like
to interview somebody. This thing came out I think the eighth of March,
so UH and they have done interviews elsewhere but I haven't gotten a response yet,
and I am. I am gonna work on that guest Jimmy over the
weekend that you sent me, and also going to get on the one that
Advance sent me. So we're gonna we're gonna see what new guests we could
get on here soon. But let's see, this might be Harlan because one
of the wireless callers. Yes, it is so Harlan the Octopus or anything
else I've got the Well, that's the only thing I can really calm man,
is you know, I know where the Cabazon Reservation is, and I
know where the casino is in California, right down the road from all of
them, the mainest scale house slashway station in the nation. And Trump used
to have I guess he was loaning his brand out to the twenty nine palms
down the road back in the day, and it was called the Trump twenty
nine for a few years. But that's pretty much about all I got to
say about the Cavazon deal. I don't have Netflix, so I wouldn't saying
it if it was on there twenty four to seven. You know, for
a mile, I got you. Well, the thing is, yeah,
I only have Netflix because somebody shares a password with me. But uh yeah
that that uh Trump twenty seven. I actually have I collect Aces of Spades
and I'm sure i have that. I'm sure well well yeah twenty nine.
Sorry, I'm sure I have the uh the Ace of Spades from a deck
of cards from that casino. Because I have a collection of Aces of Spades.
I got like three thousand of them. So anyways, yeah, this
just not always remember, you know, to what you tongue when you're talking
about the Chosen One. You got to get it right. I hated to
correct you, but you know how it wants you to get in trouble for
you know, when he comes back to power here at the end of the
year. Well listen, if he's coming back to power and really gonna you
know, seek retribution on everybody. Unfortunately, Roger Stone claims to still listen
to the show. So I'm in trouble already, I think, just saying
yeah, yeah, well, so you know, I've been playing this sophisticated
game of four hundred and sixty nine B and D Jsted and you know,
I'm probably gonna be the next Transportation Secretary. I can't you know, say
I'm guaranteed to be, but you know, I'm probably in the running,
especially since who we've had for the last couple of Transportation secretaries. I probably
go as did his chance as anybody because I actually do know something about it
and don't, like, you know, the current one. But so interviews.
Oh look, Captain Trips wants to answer the thing about but listen,
if you wind up being Transportation Secretary, Harlan, you know, look,
helped me at least stay out of prison, you know, a couple of
years, will you. But but go ahead, well you know, I'll
put in a good word for you, you know, I mean, it's
just according one I have to, you know, check and say, you
know, if my bank account grow and there's a deposit from Georgia. But
you know that's that's like, that's the way it works, all right.
Well, Roger Stone, if they'll, if they'll help me out, you
know, I'll break you off a piece of whatever it is I get and
maybe I'll just have to become a devotee of Orange Jesus next, you know,
and I'll break you off piece of that happily, you know. But
go ahead, Trips, you have something you want to add Oh no,
I was gonna say if if he's if he's canning out cabinet posts, you
know, I think I'd be well suited for Health and Human Services, or
at least the director of the CDC. I can promise you that that that
I'd be assassinated within six months. But but if he gives me that post,
I will make changes. I will make changes, I promise. I
don't know nobody, nobody if we're looking for jobs. I don't know if
this is going to overlap with Captain Tripps. But I wanted the job of
the horny animal. Uh, it might fall, it might fall under me.
Well, well then I think it like a sub cabinet secretary or something
you can be. You can be the deputary Deputary Secretary in charge of animal
intoxication studies. Because obvious with you when it comes to the Japanese quail,
I would rather just let the do coke and then go see the different you
know, more is than Japanese quail. Well, since we're since we're talking
ridiculous health stories, did you see that apparently a baby goat has contracted bird
flu in in Minnesota? Oh no, it's yeah, And I said someone
asked how you could get birds and goats to to copulate, and I said,
I think that can only happen if a panglin makes the arrangement. You
know, if a panglin does the matchmaking, then I think the goat and
the bird can get get together. I'd have to find out. I'll have
to call Falci to me, because that's something we just with a lot here
with turkey and chicken houses out the ginn gang is the bird flu. It's
really afflicted affected a lot of the growers here, a lot of them.
So somebody species like that to a goat. Somebody, somebody contact Disney on
this. I'm sure they'll be able to help us out anyway, probably probably
the same way people were people were testing uh you know uh uh McDonald hamburgers
and getting positive COVID PCRs. I mean, and I tell you what,
at this point, I'm into anything that. Anything the establishment tells you about
medicine health. Just just turn your head and go the complete opposite direction.
You may not be one hundred percent right, but I can guarante antee you
you'll be one hundred percent follow any of the advice from these people. Just
one point of clarity, gentlemen. I mean, I don't want to offer
an opinion on this or anything, but are you guys both trying to tell
me that bird flu is sexually transmitted? Is in fact an STD? Is
that what you're telling me? Who knows? Who knows? Okay, I'm
sure it's caused by climate change or the Russians. I mean it's either.
I think it could have been putin that did it, but I'm not sure.
I mean, would that piggyback on HPV? And that's why everybody's got
to have a garter still shot? Now? I mean I almost have to
go with climate change on this one. Well, that affects everything. Repeat,
Come on, right, I think climate change? Right? Isn't Isn't
that why he does what he does? Because a climate change? I don't
know, I might have missed the story. I don't have to check with
John. Uh what's her name? Uh? Who's the who's the twitt?
That's the press secretary, Jean Pierre something or other? Jen Saki? No,
No, no, she was, she was was the red devil before
her, the black lady, the one that is intelligent telling k k K
that's right. Sounds like a new intelligence agency for North Korea. Anyways,
how about this, uh, next caller? Uh, anything you want to
drop in here on pengulins or the octopus or any other pharmaceutical or farm animal.
Go ahead, Just a generalized question for the listeners here or some of
the people involved in the conversation. How many of you I actually believe that
we're ruled by a two party system? All right tonight? Captain Tripps and
I have just answered you with our chuckles because yeah no, But b Pete,
you go ahead and answer for yourself. I'm gonna say here, isn't
he as many times as we've gone over this discussion of the one party dance?
Yeah? Okay, so I think that can census everybody who's on the
Skype live would tell you that it's a one party system. Uh. And
you know what's harm I'm gonna ask, like, what Harlem's belief I think
he I think he figures it's all a con job on both sides. I
mean, I'll let him answer for himself if he wants to correct me before
we're done, But I think he would tell you it's a con job from
any angle. Uh. And that's basically the way it runs. Although it
could possibly run on a two party system. I think he sees nothing but
con artists on all sides right now, except that he's now declaring tonight that
he's on the Trump train again. But you know, ourn Jesus will get
you definitely. Okay, So with that, let's go to somebody else who
would definitely want to comment on the one party or two party system. Vance,
Why don't you answer that question? You figure that we're ruled by the
two party system still or what? Yeah, I was chuckling myself, but
yeah, we didn't do that enough. But no, just my mom tonight
was, you know, all she's going on eighty and she sits in and
watches all the Fox News crap, and she's a Trump supporter, and and
you know, she's all upset about something that was being discussed on the news
and you know, being distraught, and and I'm like, and it's the
immigration or should I say the Great Invitation? But and I said, well,
you know, Mom, I said, I would probably be just as
upset as you are. And I'm pissed, and I understand the you know,
the brustration. But you know, I, as I've been trying to
tell you for years, you know that, you know that it doesn't matter.
You know that the people that you're electing and are on the TV telling
you what they're telling you aren't the winds pulling. So you know, it's
a it's an open secret. Like I said that, the deep state is
the United Nations, in the in the Bank of International Settlements, in the
in the World Economic Forum, and we we we have a two party illusion,
a diversion of a ruse. You know, democracy is just basically a
ruse in itself as far as what representative democracy or whatever. And and you
know, it's just the tyranny of the majority, you know, And that's
the way that the system is designed to work, is to pit one against
the other. And so no matter who, when somebody is always going to
be pissed off. It's about principles. The Constitution was about principles and natural
rights and common law. And we're under a corporate structure, and you know,
this is all corporatism, fascism, whatever the fuck you want to call
it. That note, On that note, I'd like to bring up a
very commercial aspect of this whole thing. Now, Harlan said that he was
being paid to be on the Trump wagon, again, and I'm wondering,
is anybody taking this clip that he's cutting and these promos and going to a
spray on tan chain or find out who Trump's be on Tan artist is and
what couples they use. I see a huge advertising potential here, and I
want my royalties. Listen. I definitely would would want to go for that.
I mean, you might as well market it every which direction you can,
because once he's back in there, I think the money's going to dry
up for promotion because he won't need it anymore. Just saying I am so
Harland. I think if nothing else, we all ship in. We go
get harm on a spray to him so that he's going to be on the
bandwagon and you know, for Orange Jesus that we still look the part.
Well, there you go. You know what. I'm going to jump back
over to Harland real fast and see if he's interested in getting the spray tand
and then we'll go back around. Oh wait a minute, I don't see
him now, maybe he's not on there. Okay, I might have lost
Harlan. Yeah I did, all right, So I'll jump over to Jimmy
James, who, by the way, might differ on the one party system
situation. H But I'll say this, the majority of people that tolerate me,
Chris, the question you asked have been described by others as some form
of mutant libertarian where we're not really standard libertarians, but we're really that's the
only box you could possibly begin to fit part of us into the majority of
people that tolerate me, And this network seems like. However, there is
a significant congingent that fall to the right, and somehow think the Republicans are
better than the Democrats. But most of us just figure the game is rigged
enough that it doesn't matter anymore. So, but some of us have a
little more faith in the right hand of the beast, you know, not
slapping us upside the head as hard as the left hand. But that's not
me anyway. Jimmy might have something else to say for himself. There you
go, Jimmy open line. Well, I'm not ruled by anyone or anything,
let alone to political parties that ought not even exist. However, I
am quite a enthusiast of constitutional fidelity because this is what I do follow,
which works out good as I'm a constitutional officer. Now, as far as
this talk of democracy, you're absolutely a democracy be a tyranny of the majority.
That's why our founding fathers hated it. They despise even the name democracy.
We are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. There is
no pure democracy at beast. That term is an attribute applied to mostly free
societies. But we need to be very clear about reality. And the Constitution
doesn't have anything about law in it advance. I wish you'd read the thing
if you're going to comment on it. All it does is lay out our
way of government, and then there's a bill of rights which protects us from
that government. That is what the Constitution is. What it is not is
civil c eight teen, Code eighteen, Code twenty three. And honestly,
most of the rules that run your particular lives are passed by your states and
localities. But if it goes beyond that, in theory got the federal criminal
but it really should never get that high. The government closest to you is
who you should be most familiar with. That was the founder's attention, and
pretty soon, I mean, you guys can laugh all you want, but
I guarant d amntee that there's going to be some reduction of significant proportions of
the bureaucracy, if Trump lives and if Trump gets in office, and if
the Democrat Party doesn't literally cause a civil war, which they already have discussed
in their little private communications which have been exposed. Even BPTE I'm sure has
read that about the committee The last time they were running, they considered everyone
left this fling to the left coast and just denying Trump's election. So that's
all I got to say on that. Oh, oh, there you go,
and uh, excellent points, you know. And like I said,
let Jimmy speak for himself. Meanwhile, Uh, which caller I got here?
I think I got. I might have uh Dan, our friend from
I might have Danny back Danny. Danny's Yeah, Danny's ruled by his wife.
Ah, well that makes a lot more sense. Jimmy did say,
what is closest to you? Yeah, so you know, yeah, that's
closest to me. Yeah, yeah, I'm all about to t no.
We What I think with the two major political part is basically there it's the
golden rule. Who has the gold rules? And they're both catering to the
donors. And for me personally, I'm just a lovable, bleeding heart and
I just want to good for everybody, whether you're a liberal or conservative or
agnostics. I'd love to see everybody thrive, survive, and you know,
and do well, regardless of what they think about the world around them or
where it is they happen to live. I'd like to see people get,
you know, first the opportunity to live and secondly the opportunity to live well,
whatever that means to them. But you know, again, I'm one
of these like live and let live, do no harm first policy kind of
people. And I believe in the concept of non aggression. And it's just
that simple, you know. But nobody's listening to me. Yeah, I
get it, I get it. I always say nobody agrees with that's okay,
So it is what it is. But look, we're down to the
last less than ten minutes, and we do have some we have some people
still holding and I don't put Danny back on hold, So be pete.
What do we do with the last ten minutes? Here? We still got
Captain trips, we still got looks like Jimmy James, Chris, Danny Advance
I think still on the line, yep. So what do we do?
Do We let a little phone chaos happen. Do you want to drop final
words on this? What should we do with the last now about nine minutes
of the show. Well, I'm all take just a minute or two to
throw out my last thoughts for the week. I mean, I'm glad everybody's
called in. We've had a good discussion tonight. I'd like to think that,
you know, in theory, yes, we do have a constitutional republic,
but I think our government has gotten so big and as eating so much
and consuming so much that it's just, you know, a behemoths feeding itself.
I think now we're under all of ard all the party stage where the
Democrats, as far as I'm concerned, that party is nothing but a plague
on society. I can't help it. And based on their past, what
they've stood for in the past, I don't even see how they're allowed to
operate without being termed, uh a hate group Republicans. They've completely sold out
a corporate interests. They don't care about anybody out, they don't care about
the taxpayer, care about those that get them elected. And the first thing
to do is they start generating money for the for the party to be able
to get their you know, coveted seat that they want on this committee.
It's ridiculous. I would hope that we could go back to a constitutional Republican
until we clean house and until somebody Trump whoever, comes in and starts cutting
back on this bloated bureaucracy. Nobody's going to be able to breathe soon.
He's going to take every bit of your money just to try to keep your
head above water. And is by design, you know, are governmenters looking
forward now to just having a a supplicant group of individuals that they can rule
over and not worry about their where their you know, money's coming from.
All I got to do is just keep taxing them and just keep printing money
and just keep borrowing and until something changes, until we can start getting rid
of the government and get it down to a controllable size, We're not going
to have any luck at any of this. So yeah, this this one
party system that's ruling right now is for the benefit of those with the wealth
and the elite who can afford anything that they mandate upon the populace. Other
than that, if you want to open up the phones for a little chaos
and back and forth, you know, looking forward next week we can continue
this discussion, you know what. That is what I am going to do.
But I'm going to answer one thing. If I believe for a second
that you know that Jimmy was right that Trump was going to come in and
really put the kibosh on the bureaucracy. I might before him, but you
know, did he do it last time? Really? I mean, he
didn't fill a bunch of slots. Yeah, okay, but did that shrink
the bureaucracy in any way? I don't see evidence of it. I know
other people tell now, no, no, this changed, that changed.
I don't see what changed there regarding the bureaucracy. And well, next time,
next time, and it's going to change. Well, I think you're
gonna get your ability to see what changes, because he's definitely gonna get in
there at this time. Looks like to me, I mean, how could
a sane country even buy a selection being handed to Biden in the condition he's
in. How could anybody believe that go ahead? I'm still waiting for the
bait and switch. To be honest with you, I still do not believe
that Biden is going to be the Democratic nominee come November. I could be
wrong. But I mean, every time you see this man, he is
more and more debilitated. Take my personal feelings about what the hell him and
his administration have done over the last couple of years just looking at him.
I mean even Reagan. You go back and look at old clips of Reagan
when he was coming, when he was forward the end of his second term,
he didn't even look that back and he still spoke fairly intelligibly, given
the fact that he had Alzheimer's and they knew it as he was, you
know, his last few years in office. I I just I can't,
I just I can't imagine. I don't know who they're going to try to
slide in there. I thought it was Gavin Newsom. But to be quite
honest with you, I think Gavin Newsom has made such a hot mess of
California that even the Democrats don't want them. You know, are they going
to try to slide you know, it's my turn Hillary in or I don't
know, And I hope Jimmy James is right. I truly do. And
I have to agree with you if I if I truly thought my I'm gonna
gonna say my last piece and then I'm actually gonna have to cut out of
here. But my issue, my biggest issue with Trump lockdown, Operation warp
speed, still patting himself on the back over this. The man has yet
to apologize, has yet to admit that he's screwed up and he listened to
the wrong people. And I'm sorry until he makes his his miakafa on that
one, I cannot. I absolutely that his decisions had so, I mean,
screwed up a lot of lives. But you know, I just now,
if he does get in there and he really does take a hatchet to
the bureaucracy, I'll support him one hundred percent on that. Absolutely, no
accomplished something. I am gonna have to cut out. It was a pleasure
and we'll do it again soon sometime. Absolutely always welcome captain trips. And
we're almost done. So what I'm gonna do is open up all the phone
lines for a couple of minutes here. But you know, last thing to
remember is there was a bunch of people screaming that they were going to slot
Kamala in there. You know, in his first term, Biden's gonna step
aside Kama and you know what didn't happen. That's how bad she is.
Nobody would accept that they're not gonna be able to slot Kamil in there,
and I don't see how they could possibly sell you on. Hey, Hillary's
the new choice. Good luck. People don't even see her as human.
I mean, what are you gonna do? Anyway, All participants are unmuted.
That's the way that is now so wide open. And I'm gonna shut
off my mic and let you guys basically finish the show. Okay, I
just got one thing to say, because I've been wanting to say for three
or four weeks, but somehow it never gets out. Just a random fact
now, but it was pertinent to a conversation like a few weeks ago.
Anyways, well known fact unless you know, the largest concentration of circuit boards
in the world is that the Mexico City. Don't not Taiwan. Good there
you go, anybody else? Take my twenties, well there it is at
a lot of quiet. All of a sudden, somebody said something about somebody
in twenty twenty four, Kanye twenty twenty four. I'm sticking by it.
That was a big Mike, Big Mike, Big Mike. Okay, why
not big Mike. Uh, Look, anybody, anybody, anybody, no
matter who you are, where you are, when you are. I want
you to remember this. I'm merely o'celly. All of you are indeed the
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I want to thank Danny. I want to thank Harlan, Jimmy, James,
Captain Trips, all of you guys for joining me and also my co
host v Pete for making the Friday night open mic what it is and I
tried to move it along as quickly and briskly as I could week. Hopefully
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