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It's time to talks for its side
for the show. You hear this song

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on the radio, It's better reccess. Let me cats on Potograph Sports Talk

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Radio. Starting now. What's up
everybody, and welcome the episode two hundred

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and fourteen of Let Me Get That
Potograph as always. My name is Drew

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or the d H and joining me
my awesome co host, mister Scott.

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I'm in a hell of a lot
of pain wrapper for or what's up,

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dude? What's going on Drew?
Oh, not too much. Just getting

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ready for Dallas this weekend. Anyone
there you go. I was gonna ask

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you if you had any shows coming
up? Yes, actually up two We've

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got Collected Coon season kicking off.
So there we go. This weekend being

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Dallas two weeks from now, will
two weekends from now, I'll be in

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Los Angeles. So third weekend in
March, I want to come up to

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Chicago and run a table. Uh
yeah, I'd love to. I actually

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think we may be doing that.
I'll discuss with the right people, but

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we might do that. We will. We'll talk about that after the show.

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Because I got a I got a
conflict that popped up. Normally I

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do that show but doing that show
for fifteen years, and uh, yeah,

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we've got to empower and I can
make it out there, and we

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don't have something already in the books, then maybe I'll be in Chicago in

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a couple of weeks. But yeah, got Dallas coming up this week,

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just getting ready for all of that
show season kicking off. But uh,

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speaking of kicking off, man,
let's kick off the show. And I'm

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I'm sorry, but last night there
was a lot of stuff we got to

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talk about today. Last night took
the cake. We're starting off with this.

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I fucking love it. It's awesome. A J. Dlon and his

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brand Dylan's Deals posted up on his
Instagram his recent signing for Immaculate. In

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my opinion, this just made Immaculate
with no quarterback auto was outside of possibly

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some fake AR thirteens, which we'll
talk about later, not to be confused

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with AR fifteen's, which is a
whole other program. Yes, yeah,

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very very very different program. Yes, but he posted on him on his

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Instagram a signing of him at his
house doing his signing for Immaculate, and

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he included inscriptions on pretty much everything, yeah, everything, and included in

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this which I want I want so
badly, but I know it's going to

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probably command insane money. There is
a mini rainbow included that is a knock

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knock joke which he literally puts knock
knock on one who's there. He does

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the entire joke. He said it's
a five card rainbow. I mean,

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this dude put up so many funny
inscriptions and then my favorite on number sixty

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nine had a ninety nine. He
just told the boy nice, he's got

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everything. I love it. Hashtag
the hobby on some of it, like

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I am. I am disappointed though
that he did come out and say that

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the knock knock joke is is totally
a dad jip. Yes, like I

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want something, I want something inappropriate. You know, it doesn't have to

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be you know, the language doesn't
have to be. It's like when I

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worked in radio, we used to
do this thing called the half hour dirty

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joke, right where you know it
was dirty, but the the lead up

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and then the punchline which would be
given thirty minutes later. M h itselves

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don't sound dirty because it was cool
for radio. So you know, he

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could do something like that where it
stands out. It's like a dirty joke

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but it stands out on its own. You know, if I ever,

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if I ever have the chance to
do a signing like that myself, I'm

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totally like in a piece out a
limerick. Oh yes, you know,

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you know, like put out the
hole. There once was a man from

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Nantucket thing on multiple cars. It's
going forward. So well, I want

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to talk about what you just said
right there. If you ever had a

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chance to do with signing, this
is what I love. So obviously this

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was a signing specifically for Immaculate.
He showed you the boxes that they sent

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them to him in and everything like
that. He shows the whole process on

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a video over on his Instagram page. But and I think it's on Twitter

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as well. Dylan's Deals is what
you'll find it under. Just just search

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AJ Dillon. But you know,
he took time out in this signing,

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you know what I mean. He
had fun with it as opposed to all

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this stuff. You hear the athletes
talking about, oh I'm signing a million

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stickers. That sucks. The guys
that have their friends signed for him,

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Uh, some people might get tired
and have their mom signed for him.

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Whatever the conspiracy you want to pick
is wife. Yeah, lots of stuff,

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you know, like but instead he
takes the time to have fun with

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it. And I love seeing that. And honestly, when you've got a

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product like this in MAC Autograph and
RPA heavy and you're really you really have

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one quarterback outside of maybe Aidan O'Connell, I mean, if you want to

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collect him and see I think he
has a Tannehill type ceiling. But you've

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got one quarterback RPA and then a
bunch of position players. AJ Dellon just

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made this a lot more fun,
get a lot more collectible to a lot

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of people. And so I love
this idea. And I don't know if

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Panini asked him to. I don't
know if Panini's saying, hey, we

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need help selling some of these products. But here's the thing, immaculate,

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it's the right product to do.
AJ has always been known as a collector.

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He's been in the hobby on our
side of things, not just as

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the player. He's a huge buyer. He does live shows on many on

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Loop, on all those different I
don't think Panini said anything. I think

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this is straight up all him.
This is this is on his own.

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He made the decision to make it
a much card I agree, No,

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I I I agree on him.
I was kind of joking when with the

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Panini part, just because with these
products, and we talked about this when

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we spoke about not having the big
quarterbacks to chase when you get to these

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products that are RPA heavy, that's
what this stuff leans on. When you

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don't have the rpas that you need, you've got to have other stuff in

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there for people to want to chase. And you can't just recreate the product,

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you know what I mean, and
leave all these people out. And

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but now this kind of gives another
little chase to immaculate outside of just focusing

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on possibly forged rpas and things like
that. You know what, I can't

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wait to see with this one.
What's up? I can't wait. Look,

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there's a lot of people that rip
boxes that don't follow the hobby on

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social media, that don't follow you
know, any of the podcasts that are

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out there that may talk about this. There's gonna be some guy that rips

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a box about and pulls pulls the
AJ Dillon card where it just says knock

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knock, and all of a sudden, we're gonna get a social media post

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like what the he yes, you
know, so you know, yeah,

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you know it's coming, or they're
gonna get the middle piece of the knock

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knock joke right and nobody's gonna know, you know, like like the guys

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are like, the hell's going on
here? I just hope the punchlines pulled

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last. It would be awesome if
the five cards actually came out and were

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pulled and showcased in a row like
knock knock, and then who's there?

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Keep the punchline for last Panini.
I know you distribute in waves. Keep

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the punchline for wave two. Well, in theory, they're not supposed to

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know what's in each of those,
I know, but I would. I

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would. It would be cool to
see those in order. It would be

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uh, you know, one of
those that I that would actually make things

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really cool. Yes it would,
but I'm not I'm not hopeful that that's

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actually gonna happen. I think ones
pop up, yeah, you know,

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but I just think it would be
cool. But I love I love this

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right here. And you know,
we talked a lot about inscriptions. We

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talked about him when they started.
We we predicted this is exactly where everything

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was going. But this is another
level. I want to I want to

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see how many of these were actually
inscribed. It looked like from his video

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he did pretty much the ninety nine
run. He did a lot of those

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ninety nine, But what he didn't
show you were the one of ones the

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fives that I want to know.
Did he take his entire immaculate run and

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decide, Okay, I'm gonna go
crazy on this immaculate run. Does this

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number one have a friending by all
Bob ross on us? Like, I've

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got a feeling, you know,
knowing that he, you know, is

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in the hobby himself. I've got
a feeling that the lower print run cards.

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I have a feeling I agree because
he knows that they're collectible on their

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own, just you know, knowing
that, hey, the shield is it's

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the one of one. You know, I don't expect an inscription, but

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no five but tens eh I got
like, I I just think that he

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did that with the run of ninety
nine only because you know, look,

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it's not a quarterback and and look
I love AJ Dillon wasn't a rookie,

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and he knows that his team,
he knows where the part is. It's

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exactly veteran auto Yeah, exactly so
it's one of those things where I think

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he just made it interesting with the
run of ninety nine. I don't see

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him, you know, doing that
with anything numbered to let's say ten or

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less. You know, maybe he
tossed a couple in on a twenty five

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or a fifty, but you know, possible. But you know, this

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is something like this that is really
words the ninety nine, like the you

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know, the webbin Yama. His
first card signed with the with that inscription

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was on a green to ninety nine. Yes, it wasn't on Yeah,

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it wasn't the super Factor, it
wasn't an orange or anything like that.

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It was it was the Green to
ninety nine. Yeah, just like with

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the Brady's as well. But yeah, and you know the key cards,

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I'm pretty sure in those instructions,
I'd almost guarantee you in that box of

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immaculate, I know for a fact
they get instructions on where to sign all

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this stuff printed out. Yeah,
they're probably instructed on the one on ones

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to leave it as a signature,
I would assume. But I'm excited to

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see what those ninety nine are.
And it's I just love when players do

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this. I think it's awesome it's
cool for AJ Dillon, and it's got

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me excited to see Immaculate. And
it's got me excited to up pull some

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AJ Dillon cards which have done a
deal with him before. But I never

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thought i'd actually be uh, you
know, whining to chase his cards.

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Yeah, you know, and you
mentioned, you know, they show the

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play, they give a diagram,
whiche, I'm where to sign and there's

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still players out there that screwed up. Of course they do. Oh yeah,

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like they're reading it. I didn't
say they read it. Yeah,

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you know there's still guys that will
like sign over their helmets or something.

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They're white. Friend's the guy reading
it? Yeah? Yeah, Yllans injecting

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some much needed fun into Immaculate as
it's a it's gonna be. I'm really

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interested to see how these big box
RPA heavy releases play out right now.

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I've been waiting for this time of
year. We are there, but AJ

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Dillon help helping add an extra chase
into this year's Immaculate. But Scott,

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let's move on now, man,
because last week we talked about how Series

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Won and Prism both came out.
Also Prism and Not Believe everyone going crazy

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for all of that, but Series
one in particular, man did tops have

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some fun and interesting surprises. Even
got us trending on freaking Twitter for the

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hobby for a little bit. Uh
thanks shout out to collectibles Guru for the

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help on that. But I do
want to I want to clarify something really

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quick here because I so what happened
was, I saw the picture of the

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car, I sent it. I
sent you a text, I said,

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what the hell is this? You're
right, And the next thing you know,

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you know, you're you're posting it
on on Twitter, and I'm getting

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credit for actually pulling the Well,
that was my miss, That was my

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miss, uh, miss misinterpretation of
your text. Because for people that don't

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know, Scott and I always send
pictures of what we hit to each other

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on a consistent basis through our group
chat. So at eleven o'clock at night,

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I did a picture of a hand
holding a card. I think Scott

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just pulled something silly out of Series
one because I know he rips a ton

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of it and so I, you
know, made it here. But let's

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move on and talk about what's actually
going on. Yeah, So, but

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I just want to clear right,
was not me to hit the card.

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No, it was not him,
like what the hell's going? Yes,

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it was more for laughs than absolutely, but I love Okay. So Tops

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did a couple of things. So
one was putting the full size Kevin Hart

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image on a on a card.
I love it. I love it,

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And I will say that is a
full sign is Kevin Hart. It's not

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a size, it's actually two skies. It's too scale. Yeah yeah,

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and like, yeah, Dwayne Johnson
will appreciate that one because that's not Kevin

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because of his height. Yes,
but it is too scale. Kevin is

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actually that size compared to the players
on the herds for the Phillies. He's

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a huge Phillies fan. Yea,
And Tops decided, you know, hey,

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we'll throw a little fun out there, and yeah, Kevin on every

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every Phillies card feature, well not
every Phillies card, but everyone has a

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super short print that has a life
size Kevin Hart image embedded somewhere in the

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photo, so on the team photo
and any player that actually not necessarily in

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the Phillies jersey, but anywhere on
the Phillies team. Yeah. And it's

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numbered to fifty two, which is
what I love because it's Kevin run print

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run to fifty two. They're not
actually numbered. Yes, Trent run to

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fifty two. Yes, print run
to fifty two. So yeah, everybody's

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looking at the back like, oh, they screwed it up. They were

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supposed to be number on the Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna send it to

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Tops and have to No, it's
supposed to print run. It's kind of

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like how they do the Mini no
numbers for Allen and Ginter or the Black

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Borders or Heritage. It is a
print run, not serial number. But

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a great, a great and funny
uh little little twist that they added in.

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But that's not all they added in. One thing that I've given Tops,

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Panini, any company, We've given
a lot of shit on this show,

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yep. And we will critique you
when we think something is wrong with

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Series one, Like I think the
initial design is hideous, I love the

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parallels, don't like the design.
But Tops did something with Series one that

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I think is one of the most
brilliant things that has been done with the

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release in a long time. And
I don't know why it has not been

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thought of sooner, but they have
taken every single base card has one card

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that has first print above the team
logo on Wait, hold on? Is

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it every hold on? Is it
every card or is it just the rookie

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Believe it's every card, okay,
because all the examples that I've seen have

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all been rookies. Okay, may
just be the rookies. I thought it

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was every single card. It may
be the rookies, but either way,

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it has first print above the logo. And what it is is it's the

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first card that comes off of the
production line, so literally the first card

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made. Yeah, so what it
does if you're if you're watching on YouTube,

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I've got a series one up here, so right above like where this

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Rockies logo would be, it says
first card. Yeah, and obviously this

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is not one of them. Is
the blue parallel? Uh? Yeah?

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So there's that. I love it. I think it is really it's Yeah,

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it's absolutely amazing. It reminds me
a lot of the old Stadium Club

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first date issue cards, yes,
except these were they only made one of

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these, as opposed to you know, they made multiple of the first This

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is something that I am really behind
with what they're doing. And I'm curious

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because there's also the platinum one of
one that's out there as well. Knowing

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that there's only one of these cards, right, how is that one?

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Those? Exactly that? And it's
tough because I pose this question in a

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in a conversation on Facebook. They
tops actually announced with this that there's an

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over nine hundred thousand of every single
base card. Yeah, it's like ninety

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thousand or something ridiculous like that.
Yeah, so around at that point hundred

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thousand. Yeah, and there's one
with the first day issue. Now granted

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you say, yeah, but there's
only one one O one, right,

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But that's just a changing of color
and making a parallel as opposed to literally

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one out of all of the base
cards. I personally think that it could

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surpass the one of one. Obviously, the one on one has you know

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a little more flair to it and
everything. So we'll have to see,

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you know, how people go with
that. But to me, if I'm

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if I have a choice of a
one on one parallel or that first print,

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I want the first print all day
long. Yeah, no, I

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would agree with you on that.
Now Here. Now Here's what I want

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to know too, because these are
not parallels. It's just the first sheet

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off of the printer for you know, uh, for that card is that

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card going to be in the pack
where a you know, a hit spot

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or a parallel or is this part
of the standard coalition. That's what I

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was curious about. And I have
yet to see one of these pulled,

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so I was actually just looking right, I have been for about five minutes.

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I've yet to see I cannot see
any of them pulled yet now,

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and that leads me to believe that
it could pop. I think they're gonna

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end up putting it in where the
act like a card, because they did

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those like filth Bomb and them did
that like thousand case break or whatever the

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crap. It was in conjunction with
TOPS. I would think TOPS would have

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told them ahead of time, like
don't just discard the base like you do

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with most of these case breaks,
Like you would think they would tell them

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because so many bass cards are just
thrown to the side. But maybe they

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didn't. And maybe this literally is
it came off the line, It was

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thrown right into coalation and it could
be in the in the regular stuff.

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I will tell you right now,
everything I've opened, every pack I've opened,

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I've kept, I've looked at every
single card so far. But here's

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the other question. I have too. So they add they do the printing,

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you know, first sheet for each
card, whatever the kid do.

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They then at that point swap the
printing right because they would have to have

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a different printing place. And now
all of a sudden, maybe there's eight

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printing plates instead of four going to
do a printing plate for They're not going

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to at least release the printing plates
for the first print. There's no way.

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There's no way they do. I
mean, that would be like saying

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they would do it for uh,
for like a super or for anything like

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that. Well, but remember the
Super is not a special plate. The

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Super is a it's a coating.
Yeah, well this wouldn't be a super

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anyway, but no, and this
wouldn't be This wouldn't be a super.

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And it's the same thing with the
same thing with the parallels. It's an

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it's just changing the ink so the
plates can remain the same. I mean,

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I I guess so, but I
doubt I doubt it because I think

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A we probably would have seen one
uh if there were plates as well,

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because then you're adding FILET of one, so I think we would You think

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we would have already seen one of
the first one of the cards pop out

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too with you know, no one, no one, that's the thing.

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Though no one knew what to look
for until a week into this, So

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there's a lot of people that probably
have a lot they need to go through,

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and there's a lot that could have
been thrown out, which leads me

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to believe that it probably was put
in with normal coalition as opposed to in

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a in a specific hit spot because
somebody all the hits upside down. Once

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I finally get an answer to well, you know, it depends because like

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in a blaster, if you get
the holiday blasters, the holiday parallel is

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the first card, and then you've
got the hits in the middle still and

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the first put it's upside down,
right, But what I'm saying is they're

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they've changed up where they're putting everything
so much it's quite possible that it's right

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in that hit spot area. But
it looks like a base card. So

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what if you didn't know about it
for a week, You're just gonna flip

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right through base? All right,
here's my rookies, you know, flip

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break through bam, here's my base. There's a when you when you don't

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know to look for it, there's
a very good chance a lot of these

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could be out there and they have
no idea just in some of this stuff.

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But you know that we also do. Fine, I'm definitely going to

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ask where it was in the pack. Yeah, I think it would be

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awesome if it was in the regular
part of the cards, because the one

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thing I hate is how they've made
packs to wear every hits in the same

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spot, Like I want to open
packs and not know where something is.

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Like, let me let me scroll
through cards for once and just randomly hit

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an awesome card next to a couple
of bass. I don't need them all

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in the middle together or all at
the back. All right, Well,

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here's the thing. This is the
other good thing, and this is nobody

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has talked about this. Okay,
we are the first people to be discussing

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this. You didn't even know I
was going to bring this up, because

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frankly, I didn't even remember it
until just now. With the exception of

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the cards that are upside down,
the hits, Yeah, the couple of

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blasters that I've ripped, a couple
of hangers, boxes and stuff like that

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that I've ripped, I did not
have to flip cards. There are no

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cards that are like summer upside down, some are right side up. When

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you're going through them, they're all
facing the same direction. Ah. I've

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been begging Hops to do this for
years because there's nothing I hate more than

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going through a pack of cards and
be like, okay, well I got

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this card here and oh wait,
crap, I know I got to turn

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a pile upside down. You know, the cards upside down, they're all

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facing the same direction. Humhm yeah, so good job, good job,

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yeah job. Yeah, somebody finally
listened and all of the cards are now

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facing the same dur So uh,
you know, kudos to Tops for finally

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hearing me out on Alan. Alright, so Scott, we back. H

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We've actually got some breaking news here
right now. Oh, I've got a

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tech I just got a message right
here from someone that's watching the show,

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and there is some stuff from Immaculate, a very very interesting thing that's going

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on right here. We're gonna acting
to be talk person who found all of

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this later today where I'm just getting
this right now. But those boxes of

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a man that Aj Dillon showed in
his video, Aidan o'conn Aidan O'Connell,

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who I mentioned earlier his boxes were
found apparently at a salvation or no where

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was it. It was in a
trash bin near someone's work. They found

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a cardboard box with inside has every
single Aidan O'Connell immaculate card unsigned. So

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I don't know if his housing was
near there for some time in Las Vegas

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or what. But just found and
this has not been posted anywhere. This

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is breaking news. I just got
this text. I'm looking at every single

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Aidan O'Connell card, the sheet where
they give him, the stickers, the

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instructions that we were just talking about. Everything was found in a dumpster inside

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of what was probably the box they
sent it to him in. But was

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I found in a dumpster by work
in Vegas. Six to one. All

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of the one ones, everything,
all of the aid and Connell arepas so

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so much for their so much,
for their being more than one. Seriously,

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seriously, I'm gonna be speaking with
this person a little later today and

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I'm going to try and help him
get these back to Pannini and also hopefully

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we can have him on the show
maybe next week or maybe do a special

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episode or something. But I just
got this in the news right here.

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We'll post everything coming up later today
after I speak to him. But this

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is absolutely insane. Yeah, I
will post the pictures later. But every

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aidan O'Connell immaculate card. This is
an entire box full of about fifteen to

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twenty different card boxes that all have
the particular card on them, and every

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card is unsigned, including the one
oh ones. What the hell that is?

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I just got this one? This
is why we record live right here.

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Yeah, because that the random things
that happened. Wow, what is

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hell that is? I don't even
know what to say about that. I

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mean, there's multiple possibilities as to
how that could have occurred. However,

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it sounds like the box wasn't even
open. No, this, yes,

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this is like. The cards are
in perfect shape, they're they're in order.

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He has pictures of them. Take
opening the box, you can see

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all the cards they were not messed
with. And the big picture that shows

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everything and shows all the boxes is
inside of another just regular brown cardboard box

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which I get boxes every month from
Panini. It looks like a Panini box.

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I can even almost see the black
tape with the Panini logo that they

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have across it, so it looks
like the entire Panini box thrown in the

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trash. Now, this was found
in Vegas near someone's work. Obviously he

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could have had a rented home there
or something like that, a lot and

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left and they just threw it away
on accident. A lot of stuff that

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these players aren't keeping up with these
cards unless you're a J. Dylon.

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But this is massive. We we
were just talking about how you had AR

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thirteen and then maybe Aidan O'Connell and
that's it on quarterbacks. And now I'm

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gonna see if I can get him
to send these to Panini immediately. Maybe

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they can still get him packouts,
maybe they can throw a redemption in.

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But this is that's huge. That
unless there's a way to get him directly

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to AJ Dillon or not yeah,
or sorry Aid O'Connell. So you know,

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unless there's a way to get him
directly to O'Connell, if he's still

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in you know, maybe he's been
looking for him for months and is just

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you know, racking his brain as
to where they disappeared to. Yeah.

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So yeah, I say when you
when you post it later, make sure

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you tag him too. Oh no, absolutely, but yeah, the good

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news is good news is we have
plenty of context A Panini. Uh you

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know that we can help get these
cards back to them. So and I'm

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willing to bet they'll eleven, they'll
leaven send a shipping label. Uh so

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the guy yeah gotta found him,
well, won't even have it in there.

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Who knows. In addition to the
shipping label, there may be something

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else in MOREM two, which if
I were Panini, I would absolutely be

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hooking him up with something. And
by something, I don't mean a second

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place T shirt for the Kid Reporter
program. Yeah, because if you have,

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if you haven't seen that going around
lately, that is absolutely hilarious.

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Yes, so wow, massive breaking
news that that's mine. That that's just

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crazy to me, Holy crap.
Yep. Absolutely, And on that note,

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why don't we take a break.
Yes, we will be back after

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this, unless you're on YouTube,
in which case stick around. We'll answer

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some questions and we are back.
Yes. For those of you that are

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that we threw in there, talking
a little bit more about series one and

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a couple of the things that popped
up. So go check that out on

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YouTube. And hey, those of
you that are on YouTube, by the

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way hit that. It's always this
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and you'll know when we go on
live, you'll know what. All right.

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So now that we are back,
what is it another week? What

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I mean, like, what kind
of week is it when there's not some

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sort of scandal? And this may
not be an actual scandal, right,

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However, there was somebody that submitted
a prism Anthony Robinson Auto and or Anthony

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Richardson Richardson Sorry, I'm not not
a football guy. I know Anthony Richardson

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Auto t p s A for grading, not for autograph authentication, for grading.

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This is a pack pulled sticker AUTO
and the card came back, do

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not hold her and we're questioning the
authenticity of the autograph. Yep, that

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was it. Now. Then then
it came out that and this is the

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funniest part to me, that that
it says Panini is being investigated. I

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was just I was just about not
being fucking investigated. Panini is the one

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conducting the investigation. People, Jesus
Christ. So like somewhere you spit.

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P s A had had to release
a statement for that says we are not

407
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investigating, and let's be honest,
p s A doesn't do investigation. I

408
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.079
was about to say, how that, what's p s A gonna do walk

409
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:37.880
into Panini's offices and say, what, we're conducting an investigation? Fuck you?

410
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:42.119
Yeah, that's not how it works. Like I'm sitting there laughing.

411
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.359
I didn't. I didn't make it
the threat either, meaning like, oh

412
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.640
god, I'm like, let the
let the stupid people just keep being stupid.

413
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:55.599
Just so. His autograph was slightly
different than the ones that I had

414
00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:00.480
seen after I no, it's,
however, slightly different. Well, but

415
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:06.400
however, there were some people that
threw out some IP autograph bottles that well,

416
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.160
that's what I was about to say. It looked pretty close. It

417
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:15.599
looks very different a because let's be
honest, he's the only quarterback with the

418
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.359
autographs really that we've seen this year, major quarterbacks, and we don't have

419
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:25.440
that many. And his first run, which was all these products up until

420
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:29.839
now where they got at the Rookie
Premiere, he signed a certain way.

421
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:34.799
Obviously he got other stickers he because
he's signed since then, he signed a

422
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:40.559
different way. Because the prisms look
a lot different than his x r's chronicles

423
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.720
things like that, and if you
look at the in person signatures, it

424
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:52.240
does have a lot of very very
similar attributes to his ips. Me personally,

425
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.039
I do not think this is fake. I don't think I don't end

426
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.720
up being fake because a I've not
seen another one, and normally a lot

427
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.799
of these would have surface by now. I've not seen another one. That

428
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:10.720
doesn't make me say yeah, that's
his auto right away, like I don't.

429
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.160
I don't see it. I haven't
seen one on another product, and

430
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.960
there's a lot of indicators. I
do know what they look at. I

431
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.880
work with very closely to PSA and
their authentication department. I know what they're

432
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:27.799
looking for in certain things. Not
a forensic you know guy by any means,

433
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:32.440
but I know the general things to
look for and what they're looking for,

434
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.319
and a lot of them hit.
So I personally don't think that this

435
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:42.640
is a controversy at all. I
think that this is PSA. I was

436
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.559
about to say, just saying,
hold up, we haven't seen this come

437
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.599
through yet on a sticker, so
until we know for sure, we're not

438
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:55.319
greeting it. And what for you
guys listening, what the hell would you

439
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.240
rather have you complain all the time
about them making mistakes? So do you

440
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.160
want them to hold off if they're
on Share or do you want them to

441
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:07.079
grade it anyway and then end up
possibly grating a fake. It's no situation

442
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:08.839
for them, So you err on
the side of caution, right, I

443
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:13.839
think that's what's going on here.
Now here's what I Here's where I think.

444
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.640
And I don't fault PSA or not. It's questionable. They didn't come

445
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.160
out and say it's fake. It's
questionable, doesn't look. What I would

446
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.519
have done, though, is I
would if I had questions it was questionable,

447
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:28.599
knowing that it is on a Panini
sticker and knowing that it is a

448
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.440
pack pulled card. What I would
have done was I would have reached out

449
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:37.680
to Panini, sent them some pictures
and said, hey, do you have

450
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:43.480
any more information on this because this
doesn't look like the other Anthony Richardson's signatures

451
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:47.200
that we have seen. They have
a department for that, research and identification

452
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:52.559
department. It's literally what their job
is, right. So now instead of

453
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.160
just saying, oh, it's questionable, slapping that do not hold her label

454
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.880
on it, and sending it back, let's give it a couple of days

455
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.400
and let's see if we can reach
out to Bene figure out, you know,

456
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:05.480
hey, what's going on here,
because you know, let's be honest,

457
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.279
they're you know, they're not locked
into a specific timetable these cards back

458
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:15.000
like right, it's you know,
sometimes it takes a couple of weeks to

459
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.720
get back. Sometimes it takes a
couple of months. I'm not gonna get

460
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:23.799
into that. Yeah, now that
has gone through auto off and the authentication

461
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.039
and the DNA department. Because see, when you send something off the grade

462
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.160
the autograph for PSA, it not
only goes through the grading department, it

463
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:37.200
goes through PSA. DNA. DNA
is a separate part from grading. Since

464
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:44.200
this one wasn't was just a grade, it did not technically even go through

465
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:49.119
DNA whatsoever. Had it gone through
DNA, not only would it have taken

466
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.440
longer, they also would have researched
it a lot more. I think if

467
00:33:53.440 --> 00:34:00.640
they had done auto grade, what
you're saying would have had happened. But

468
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.920
since they just went through grading,
they bypassed that completely. Now, if

469
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:09.920
i'm PSA, if a card like
that is bypassed, and you know what,

470
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.800
putting that out there and sending that
back to the customer. You know

471
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.960
it's going to hit the internet.
You know it's going to come out as

472
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:22.519
a third fake auto. Maybe that's
where I say, hold up, let's

473
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.320
take it to DNA, let's call
Panini, let's hit people. I think

474
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:30.719
because they didn't grade the autograph,
it missed those people that would have actually

475
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.119
done that job. Well, but
here's my question. If they're not it's

476
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.280
on a Panini sticker, yeah,
and it's on the correct card. So

477
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:43.719
my question is why did they And
they're not grading the autograph, they're only

478
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:45.760
grading the car, why did they
even look at that? I have no

479
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:51.039
idea. I'm no clue. I'm
no clue. That's something that you know.

480
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.440
I actually in Dallas this weekend.
I'll be with PSA. I'll actually

481
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:59.960
ask them that this weekend and we'll
actually put an update up on social media

482
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.159
as to why, because that's a
good question, because honestly, when it

483
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.400
when you do that, they're not
looking at that autograph. Yeah, now

484
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.800
I understand if it's not a Pannini
sticker that's on that card, yes,

485
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.639
yeah, yes, yes, you
absolutely have to look at that. However,

486
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.360
if it's on the correct sticker,
yeah, and it's on the correct

487
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.559
card right. No, even looking
at I agree, I know, I

488
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:28.760
agree they shouldn't have and that's why
I was shocked when I saw. I've

489
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:34.440
seen a lot of return labels from
PSA and there's about five thousand different things

490
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.400
that they'll put on that label as
the why to do not hold, And

491
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.760
it's so confusing. I have never
just seen autograph on a card that didn't

492
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.320
go through DNA, and so I
don't know, if I know, they

493
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.239
very well could have taken it to
DNA to check out. DNA said hey,

494
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.960
we can't verify it. But PSA
hasn't come out to say that yet,

495
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:58.280
and so we don't know, you
know, what they did, the

496
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:02.239
process they did if it the DNA
side. But a very interesting case here.

497
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:06.800
I personally think, like we said
at the beginning, I think it's

498
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.079
gonna be end up being real.
I think that this is gonna be end

499
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:14.679
up being real. Customer will probably
get free grading, probably free express in

500
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.639
the end when it comes out that
it's real, and we'll be good to

501
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.880
go. Yeah, honestly, I
don't. I don't see this as a

502
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.880
massive big deal. No, I
don't either. Now if now in three

503
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:30.960
weeks, if fifty more autos come
out and there's nineteen different variations of his

504
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.559
autograph and there's you know, that's
a different story. But from what I

505
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.320
see right now today, I think
this was just a simple hold up,

506
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:43.719
we're not the DNA department. This
looks weird, even though we shouldn't be

507
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:45.239
looking at it, So we're just
not going to grade it. No,

508
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:51.400
I would agree with that, But
I think the big uproar over this that

509
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:52.960
they failed it. It was you
know the fact that somebody came out and

510
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:55.679
yeah, you know, it was
like, oh, you know, Panini's

511
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.400
been investigating. No, guys,
got it. No. First of all,

512
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:07.559
the company would investigate themselves, yeah, or they would hire an outside

513
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:12.000
firm. None of that was announced. But Panini is obviously gonna look into

514
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.159
something like this, So yeah they're
looking into it. Yeah, but no,

515
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:20.760
no one they're doing government freaking intervention
anything like that that who would be

516
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.679
making an inquiry and all this,
But all this crap with Panini, it

517
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:29.719
just cracked me up. I bit
my tongue like you did, because I've

518
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:35.239
learned. But Jesus Christ, But
yeah, so some ar thirteen autos,

519
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.840
we'll see what's going on with all
those, hopefully we get a little more

520
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:43.079
clarification. But I mean, if
you asked me today, a whole lot

521
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.400
of a whole lot of commotion over
absolutely nothing. Yeah, I would agree,

522
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:51.239
speaking of commotion, yes, all
right, So this may not be

523
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.840
the most popular topic, uh huh. However, racing it is. We

524
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.039
got the data to five hundred that
ran yesterday due to the Reindo lay on

525
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.119
ze. Have the Onmula one season
that's coming up. Yeah, it's going

526
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:07.360
to be starting shortly, and some
major changes obviously that have been announced already

527
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:13.639
in Formula One with this being Lewis
Hamilton's final season with Mercedes and he's moving

528
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.480
to Ferrari in twenty twenty five.
But then and then a couple of other

529
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.199
couple of other things have have hit
and I'm curious from a hobby stand,

530
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:28.079
how Lewis Hamilton's with Ferrari going to
you know change is obviously Ferrari's a legendary

531
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:31.760
team. Only the one and his
first cards that come out with Ferrari,

532
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.000
you know, is there going to
be a bigger demand? Well, and

533
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:38.559
the first cards that came out you
know twenty twenty Well, we kind of

534
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:43.960
have a test subject that just came
up this year, and that's with the

535
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:50.039
Oscar past three autos. Well,
this is a slightly difference. Okay,

536
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.599
Well, to give everyone a background, what we're talking about. Past three

537
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:58.840
in twenty twenty one had his F
two card, so he had autographs he

538
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:02.199
had to run in F two.
Right, this year he's moved over to

539
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:08.960
McLaren a massive legendary team in racing, and has his rookie card, so

540
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.760
he's now got his rookie So basically
that was like his prospect card in twenty

541
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:22.000
twenty one. Well, on January
tewod a PSA ten orange auto from twenty

542
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:28.280
twenty one sold for nineteen fifty and
on February eighteenth, from the new tops

543
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:36.400
Chrome F one, his rookie orange
ungraded just sold for four thousand dollars over

544
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:40.599
double. Yeah, that's what the
power of a team, and that's what

545
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:45.800
I think the power of the rookie
card logo in F one's case is gonna

546
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.000
do with these cards. But the
team is what I think because well,

547
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.159
but here's the but here's the thing. I think the team he was with

548
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:58.000
Prima Race twenty twenty one and F
two. I want to say that that's

549
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.800
a feeder program McLaren. It is. They knew he was gonna be McLaren.

550
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.400
But so he's still yeah, so
he's still he was He was a

551
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.840
McLaren driver back then. He just
but it wasn't a McLaren gear, didn't

552
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:13.559
say McLaren on it. And if
you go with I'm I'm assuming the collectors

553
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.519
that are going after this are also
going to be a lot of people that

554
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:21.559
are like NASCAR, And if it's
anything like NASCAR, the rookie card logo

555
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:25.039
matters much less than who they're driving
for and what they're in, like what

556
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:30.679
car, what they're in, what
is on the car, the sponsors on

557
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.519
the car, who they're driving for. That's what seems to matter a lot

558
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.400
more than the rookie card logo.
Now in this case with F one,

559
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.119
I think it's showing you, at
least with the Piastre, that the rookie

560
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.679
card logo means a lot more than
F two because people wanted to know how

561
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:51.960
those F twos were gonna hold up. And he's really the first person to

562
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:57.000
have a rookie since twenty twenty one
who was an F two guy that's got

563
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.280
a chance to actually do something in
race now are the first test subject.

564
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.880
Now, normally, you know,
I would say that the the F two

565
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:08.519
cards higher because those are treated in
the same way that like a first bowman

566
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:15.559
the debut year two No, second
year, second year. Now, I've

567
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:19.519
always, i've always, you know, been under the under the impression that

568
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.000
the hobby was going to treat those
like first bowman me too cards where they're

569
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:27.679
going to be valued higher than the
rookie cards. But you've got to take

570
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:32.000
in consideration that the majority of the
Formula one cutters are not in the United

571
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:37.760
States and do not follow baseball right
in any way, shape or form.

572
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.960
In fact, they probably don't even
know how baseball is played a lot.

573
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they
know, you know, if you ask

574
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.159
them another sport, they'll know how
soccer is played, they'll know how you

575
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:51.360
know, how rugby is probably played. But you know, for the most

576
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:57.000
part, the Formula one collectors are
not in the US. They're not stateside

577
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.440
base for the majority, No,
and they not you know, they haven't

578
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:05.599
been around point where they they understood
like they know that okay, first bowman

579
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:07.199
versus rookie and all that and stuff. So I think I don't think that's

580
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:14.679
even an even comparison. But I'm
I don't know. I still think that

581
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:17.239
a two year old, you know, a card that came out two years

582
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:22.679
prior to mm hmm, especially as
a p S A ten. Both both

583
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.679
Orange, both number to twenty five. Yeah, that's Apple. Apple should

584
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.559
both licensed in the same set,
different in college and pro things like that.

585
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.800
Even though they have different names on
them, it's the same set.

586
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:42.440
Yeah, there shouldn't be a double
double ungraded too one graded a piece.

587
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.760
Now there is there is the new
the new product, you know, right,

588
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:50.480
new product type. Yeah, twenty
twenty three formulae just came out.

589
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.440
It's possible that this is the you
know, whoever bought there were two guys

590
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.840
that are chasing a rainbow or something
like that and they're you know, they

591
00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:01.079
just bit it up really high,
very but but it's still it boggles the

592
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.599
mind, and like, you know, they're both sticker autos, Like I

593
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.679
understand, how Okay, maybe one
was on card. Okay, that's fine,

594
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.639
that's not the case here. No, No, this also could have

595
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:15.760
been the first Orange that hit the
market, and that's quite possible. The

596
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.119
other five but yeah, yeah,
it was definitely the first sail and looks

597
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.199
like what is the only Yeah,
and with the twenty twenty ones, a

598
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:29.320
multitude of the Orange has been on
the market for several years. I mean,

599
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:30.719
there's a lot of factors that you
can throw into this, but I

600
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:37.159
still, I still can't see any
justification outside of just two guys bidding it

601
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:43.400
up because they're both chasing a rainbow. I can't see any justification why it

602
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.960
was a raw twenty twenty three even
though it's got the Rookie logo on it

603
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:52.559
would sell for double what A PSA
ten of his first ever autographed card in

604
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:58.840
the same print run would still okay, right, No, I completely agree

605
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.880
with you. I'm I'm taking a
look at a couple of other sales right

606
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:07.320
here. Yeah, the Orange.
Another Orange did just sell, it looks

607
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:14.480
like for around the same price.
One of his futuro Rookie cards from f

608
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.960
one, one of the inserts out
of fifty just sold for two grand.

609
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:23.920
All these with the Rookie card logo. So right now people are highly coveting

610
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:29.159
that Rookie card logo. I want
to see what this other sale is real

611
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:34.360
quick from four thousand check out card
Ladder. See if we got two of

612
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.280
them, but one of them,
at least we know was at four thousand,

613
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.079
and that one's verified. I don't
know if this one is. But

614
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.119
this is kind of giving you an
idea. Yeah, okay, so both

615
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.079
were at four grand, So this
gives you an idea. I mean it

616
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:52.039
looks like that. So people are
going after so we'll see what happens with

617
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.679
it. But it's a building,
you know, it's only four years old,

618
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.559
and so we don't know how these
cards are gonna look, how this

619
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:05.199
stuff is gonna react. I mean, I do think it comes down to

620
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:09.880
the rookie card logo, and I
think also it comes down a lot having

621
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:15.079
it say McLaren. I know he
was on their feeder system, but that's

622
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:20.159
like saying it had Hickory crawdads any
place for the Rangers. Completely different,

623
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.559
you know what I mean? Like
having it say McLaren is a big different

624
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:30.400
and so that dude, it's big
in the F one world. Yeah that's

625
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.400
true. I can't see it,
see it. Oh, I can't see

626
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:39.960
it being double at all. I'm
trying to figure out as we finally navigate

627
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:45.599
this hobby, what is going to
be chased after, what's gonna be popular,

628
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.039
and why it's so much more popular. But we'll just have to see

629
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:53.719
what happens up as this product,
the newness wears off, sap fire comes

630
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:58.280
out, things come out like that. Then let's see some sales and then

631
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.320
you know, then maybe we'll see
what Yeah. No, absolutely, But

632
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.039
on that note, man, I
think it's probably a good time to wrap

633
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.320
up today's show, at least the
audio version. What do you say?

634
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:12.880
I would agree? Enjoyed trip to
Dallas over the weekend. You got that

635
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.760
coming up? I know it's always
a Dalla show is always a solid,

636
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.320
solid oh yeah, a lot of
fun. Yeah, and love going to

637
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.159
Dallas. Can't wait, cannot wait. But thank you guys so much for

638
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.679
tuning into episode two and fourteen.
Before we go, do want to thank

639
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:31.400
our awesome sponsors Zion Cases, Denver, Card Shows, Stand Up Display Show,

640
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:35.719
Your Slabs, Slab, Strong,
Game Time, Sports Cards, and

641
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.079
Card Ladder. Thank you guys so
much. We could not do the show

642
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:43.920
without you, guys. New article
just popped up on Hobby News Daily New

643
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:49.960
iconic inserts we look at the press
pass net Burners inserts that one. Oh

644
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:57.079
yeah, and of course also Hoppy
Hotline. Every single Saturday at eleven am,

645
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.039
I will be off for the month
of March, but I may be

646
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.440
filling in here and there to make
sure check that out as well. And

647
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:08.639
we've got a ton of content up
on our socials. You're gonna start seeing

648
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.079
a lot more. We're gonna have
an update on the Aidan O'Connell situation.

649
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.320
We may have an interview with the
person who has them in their possession if

650
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:22.400
they would like to discuss it.
If not, we'll provide updates and hopefully

651
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:28.039
get those back with nany But yeah, great scout, great show man.

652
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:32.559
Love the absolutely love the breaking news. Yeah. Always always fun when that

653
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:39.079
happens. Blickness. Yeah, so
yeah, absolutely all right. Well that's

654
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.679
gonna do it for this week's show, guys, So until next week,

655
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.079
you know the deal. Keep ripping
those packs, pulling those hips and we'll

656
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:46.639
talk to you then. Please