WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.120 We told them we're running Sorry about that, folks, We are running late, 2 00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:08.160 but yeah, it's Friar's Day, so we'll go to a quarter after 3 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:13.119 or something, depending on what happens on the live show. So uh yeah, 4 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:17.120 smoke him if you've got him. The Chilly Effect is sponsored by Wall 5 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:29.320 Street Window dot Com and listeners like yeah, yeah, Shelly, isn't this 6 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:34.159 fun? Friar's Day night? Oh Chelly Effect? And we are live if 7 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:38.960 you're hearing us at about a quarter after eight pm Eastern time in what we 8 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:42.359 used to call America. Guess what, We're live, and that means you 9 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:46.119 can join if you like. You can call in three one nine five two 10 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:50.320 seven five zero one six. I'm not gonna keep announcing the number too much 11 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:55.280 during this first segment, because uh yeah, you guys can call in, 12 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:57.240 hang out and listen for a minute. But I got a little bit of 13 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:00.840 a presentation to give at a certain point here, and it's probably gonna take 14 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.560 me about fifteen minutes. So yeah, if you want to start calling in 15 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:08.519 at about eight thirty, that's probably the best time. But apparently I got 16 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:12.280 a few things I gotta address, so I'm gonna address him, and before 17 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:15.840 I go there or do anything else, or we get into the news, 18 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.359 and what is news at this point? Is there any news? Did anybody 19 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:23.879 interesting die lately? I know they did. You know a guy got shot 20 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.239 at the place where I buy my cigarettes the other day. I can't remember 21 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.400 which day was. Anyway, that guy was killed in the afternoon over here 22 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.400 a broad daylight apparently talked to the wrong guy's girlfriend or something. It was 23 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:41.280 a personal issue. Anyway, It's what happens here in the hood, all 24 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:45.359 right. So you might have tuned into some different things. I have not 25 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:49.799 put out the podcast from Wednesday, Sour's Day. I ended up not getting 26 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:55.200 Carmine Sabastanawan, although I was gonna He's gonna return in the coming weeks at 27 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:59.760 a certain point. We got a couple other interesting broadcasts that should hit and 28 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.680 we're gonna get there. So anyway, it is what it is. But 29 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:13.199 I did speak with Andrew Tregliatt on Wednesday about the movie Jones Plantation, so 30 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.680 that is coming out real, real soon and the podcast will hit through the 31 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:20.560 links. Oh, I changed the website up a bit. You might have 32 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.960 noticed that. There's gonna be other changes coming up. What else happened? 33 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:30.199 Oh, We did remove the get Mad stuff from the website, but more 34 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:34.479 on that later. And yeah, so there we are. But I changed 35 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.680 the spreaker feed and put that at the top of the site, which is 36 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:39.919 a little more efficient, should be a little less of a problem for people 37 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:45.240 having problems downloading some of the episodes, etcetera, etcetera. And it's gonna 38 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:49.400 make it a lot smoother for re releases and uh well, new stuff that's 39 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.719 gonna come up. Also, all previously pending shows that were in development are 40 00:02:53.759 --> 00:03:00.360 all canceled. What do you call it? Cult Priestis decided that I did 41 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:04.639 not communicate well, so she felt that she didn't want to join the network 42 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.479 at this time, which is her prerogative, and quite frankly, I think 43 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:10.159 she was doing just fine all by herself. Didn't need it anyway, but 44 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.800 is what it is. And yeah, she's not joining and two other projects. 45 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:19.719 I'm just clamping down and saying no. Aaron Fronze is sticking with me 46 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.199 as he has for the past six seven years, I don't know how long 47 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:24.840 now, but you know, I seem to be able to produce his two 48 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:29.560 shows with no problem, and I'm going to continue to do. So we 49 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:31.719 are going to expand some stuff. We got plans for Dallas, We got 50 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:37.639 all kinds of things going on. But anyway, forget about all those other 51 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:39.479 updates. How many minutes did I waste on this? Already? Almost four 52 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:46.639 and a half damn Friday, the first of September twenty twenty three, allegedly 53 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:49.879 according to that thing we call a calendar, and I've already wasted five minutes 54 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.719 of your time. I'm sorry, but if you're listening to this on a 55 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:55.919 podcast, you don't care, and you'll skip around anyway. So let me 56 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:00.240 just ask my coast how he's doing. Be Pete, what's up? Uh? 57 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:03.080 Good? Doing good. We've had a very hectic week down here in 58 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:08.199 the South with the passing of the hurricane and then tropical storm. So yeah, 59 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:12.000 I've been jumping through hoops all week long. But all that's done. 60 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:14.840 And hey, it's Labor Day weekend. Got a long weekend coming up. 61 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.000 Everybody, have a happy Labor Day. If he needs a barbecue tips, 62 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:21.079 send me an email, got plenty of them for you. But other than 63 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:25.560 that, looking forward to a nice long weekend. You one of those barbecue 64 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:29.279 guys. Seriously, you're one of those guys who tells me about the technique 65 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:33.120 and everything. No, I got a webber kettle grill. I can tell 66 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.439 you how to cook on it, how to keep your temperature right. Other 67 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:39.120 than that, should you do what you want? Well, i'll tell you 68 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.279 what you need to teach some people how to do. It's clean the damn 69 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:46.240 thing, because man, I have seen some horror shows. Good brush ladies. 70 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:48.600 If anybody's listening, if you've got a guy the grills and you're looking 71 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:56.480 for a good gift, a good grill brush goes is way beyond what's necessary, 72 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.279 so you know, always keep that in mind. Makes good stocking stuff. 73 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.480 Or Christmas is coming, it's only what four months away? Well, 74 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.279 wait a minute, let's see it's September, so I guess technically you got 75 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:09.800 to get through September, then October, then November and most of December. 76 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:14.279 Yeah, four months we can call it that. Sure, christ Mass, 77 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:16.560 they're twenty fifth of December, right, that's the date of it. I 78 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.439 think, well, yeah, and it makes a good Hanaka gift. Or 79 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:24.759 if you celebrate kwanza you know to wrap it up they got paper. I've 80 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:30.120 never known anybody that celebrated Kwanza as. I've got to tell you that I've 81 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.160 lived in some neighborhoods where you know, I was certainly the minority, and 82 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:39.519 people that might celebrate Kwanza might be the majority in the neighborhood quite often. 83 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.439 I mean, even where I live right now, I would say it's it's 84 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.199 well mixed, if not primarily a black neighborhood. And you know what, 85 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:49.360 I don't see the Kwanza stuf anywhere. I gotta tell you, I don't 86 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:56.720 know anybody that well. I guess Quanza is more low key than the commercialization 87 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:00.519 of Christmas. And you know it, Honka has been around since dirt was 88 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:03.480 created, so you know, yeah, it's fair enough. But I mean, 89 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:05.800 you know, you go to the local stores and stuff. By the 90 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:10.839 way, still, you know about now, they're probably already dropping their their 91 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.800 Christmas stuff beginning to right, isn't that? Well, No, we got 92 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.600 to get through Halloween. What they're gonna do probably in the next week you'll 93 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.399 see the Halloween stuff start coming out and in a couple of weeks start going 94 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:27.800 on sale. Then they'll really cut it, like three days before Halloween. 95 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:32.120 Then they'll start lining the shelves with turkeys and crap and Christmas, Thanksgiving I'll 96 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.759 get a little sliver on the corner, but the rest of it will be 97 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:41.920 Christmas balls to the wall. Cool, all right, So let's see what 98 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.279 else we got going on. I mean, is there anything in the news 99 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.639 that stands out to you? I mean something you want to kick around? 100 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.720 Because I had some audio stuff, but but quite frankly, it was so 101 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:57.199 buffering I just ditched it. Well, there's this Columbus, Ohio I just 102 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.199 referred today, and I've not really kept up. I've kept up with the 103 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:02.199 weather all week, but I really haven't heard the news that much. And 104 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:10.560 apparently they took out a pregnant lady who was suspected of shoplifting and she went 105 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:13.800 to pull her She was just easing her car ahead towards one of the cops. 106 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:15.720 He pulls out a gun and shoot her once in the chest. Did 107 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:23.000 wow, Yeah, I didn't even see that one. I've heard about it 108 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.879 today. Columbus. That's amazing. Yeah, Columbus, Ohio. And you 109 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.600 know it's all on bodycam footage. The family saw it the other day, 110 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:34.639 so you know they're calling for the arrest of the cop. But then again, 111 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:40.040 she was moving a car at him. I don't know why they didn't 112 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:42.639 pull one of the cop cars in front to keep her from pulling off. 113 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:45.480 I mean, you would think that'd be a strategic thing, you'd think so. 114 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:47.720 But now, well, yeah, she's in a parking lot at a 115 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:50.360 grocery store. Okay. Well, you know, it's been an odd thing 116 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:56.759 lately, like shoplifting is becoming a very confrontational sport at this point. There 117 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:01.279 was a couple other instances where people were accused of showplifting and people were beating 118 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.480 them. I forget which city that was. I think it was somewhere in 119 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.480 Pennsylvania. I gotta tell you, it's all a blur to me. Every 120 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.600 time I turn stuff on, it's just, uh, you know, you're 121 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:15.040 either getting slammed to death with you know, Trump's indictments or well, depending 122 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.160 on what channel you're on, maybe maybe you're listening to, uh the continuous 123 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:24.319 coverage of Hunter Biden and corruption there. Either way you get that, and 124 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.120 then the horror stories. Uh, and they're all bent too. Uh. 125 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.559 And the horror stories usually lately, it seems anyway you're involving shoplifting and shooting. 126 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:37.159 So it's you know, it's definitely a running gun society we got right 127 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.679 now. I don't know. No no good fast food stories lately. I 128 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:43.559 guess right, no, no what special chicken sandwiches. Anybody's got to like 129 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:48.720 fight over what? No celebrities. Some kid got read last week some kid 130 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:54.639 got stabbed over some kind of dipping sauce at McDonald's. Oh where was that 131 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.919 at dipping sauce? Altercation over I think, yeah, over dipping sauce. 132 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:03.600 I mean, man, anything, it's anybody who says somebody off. Nowadays, 133 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.679 some people up. Some people are easily set off. Like I said, 134 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:09.960 the guy down the street here, you know, shot this dude talking 135 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:15.919 to his girlfriend. Just that's apparently the story. Thirty seven year old guy 136 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.639 shot him right dead right at the circle, kay, And uh yeah, 137 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.480 you know the people working there were a little freaked out. And the course 138 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:26.399 they swapped out the guys that were working at the time for some people that 139 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:28.360 were clearly unhappy that they were called in. But what are you gonna do? 140 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:37.120 This was in DC yeah girl, because they ordered her to be held. 141 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.679 I think she was trying to get out on bond. Let's see, 142 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:45.279 girl charged in dipping sauce fight that led to murder in DC Hill. They 143 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:50.559 ordered an evaluation of her judge said Friday that the sixteen year old girl accused 144 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.440 of stabbing another girl to death as they fought over sweet and sour dipping sauce. 145 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:58.360 It's always the sweet and sour, not the part of a c I 146 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:05.519 should tell you something. Yeah, she will remain in custody. Excellent. 147 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:07.600 So I'm just taking a quick look at the chat. I guess, uh, 148 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.440 phase is digging the idea of to us talking about grilling. I don't 149 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:15.120 know if I'm gonna do any grilling this year. It's you know, meat 150 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:20.159 is expensive, man, It's it's rough. I you know, somebody said 151 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:24.600 they're gonna grill drumsticks. I think there was a sale on wings somewhere recently 152 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:28.519 caused the stampede at one of the stores locally, actually, But outside of 153 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.440 that, I mean, I don't even know what the hell I would grill 154 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:33.759 at this point. The hamburger. Meat is too expensive, especially if you're 155 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.080 going over to somebody else's house and you're bringing something. You know, because 156 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.200 that used to be a kindness people would do, uh, you know, 157 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:45.159 where you you bring something to the barbecue, But here we go, you 158 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:50.480 know you're gonna bring hamburger, especially if somebody's got a dirty grill, needs 159 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:52.600 that brush beat Pete was talking about. I don't want to I don't want 160 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.600 to waste you know, twenty dollars worth the hamburger to have somebody, uh 161 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:00.879 just put it on their dirty, dirty grill. I mean, some dirty 162 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.600 grills might add for well, but they don't look like it usually. Yeah, 163 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:05.600 dirty grills, you know, you can. You can cure a dirty 164 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:09.799 grill just by you know, getting you a good flame going and cook that 165 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:11.879 crap off of there. If that's the only method you got. But yeah, 166 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.080 you gotta have a clean grill. People need to take care of the 167 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.080 grills. I always thought that the simple wire brush was the best methodology. 168 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.519 I mean, just just the wire brush would have use, you know, 169 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:24.360 something broad enough that you can use your whole hand and not you know, 170 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.200 cramp up on it because you're gripping on a small handle and that's it. 171 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.320 You know. Oh, I've got one that's shaped. I mean it's not 172 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:37.159 accid an average size handle, but it's it's got a triangle coming from the 173 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.080 handle, and the wire brush is in the shape of the triangle, so 174 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.039 in turn the sideways and get between stuff. Otherwise you lay it flat, 175 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.639 you know. You're covering a good four and a half five inches as you 176 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:54.559 go, so it's quick, it's easy, does great job, and a 177 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.600 lot of people don't think before you grill. Just go get a can of 178 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.600 the cheap cooking the spread and get your grill with it, and half that 179 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.639 crap just comes right off. Yeah, but there's almost no such thing as 180 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:11.480 cheap cook and spray anymore. You know, everything's so damn expensive. Is 181 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.000 not bad. You know, a couple of books. I can't get along 182 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:18.360 grills out of Canada. I used to see it at two bucks, you 183 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.720 know, but I don't see uh pan spray or whatever. You know, 184 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.720 what do they used to cause a pan? Yeah, they caught a pan 185 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.799 like like a woman's name, right. Yeah. I get the food line 186 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:33.519 brand and it's like two forty nine or something. Yeah. Well, then 187 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:35.440 then again, I'm in the hood, so you know, the piggy wiggly 188 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:39.120 gotta rip everybody off because there there ain't you know, not too many grocery 189 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:45.879 stores you can walk to. Well, missus over how much junk a lard 190 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.600 and wipe it down? Yeah, that'll help to missus. Oh, how 191 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.720 much do they charged for a damn cannon? That's spray stuff. You know 192 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.480 that you spray. Damn. Well, if you go to Piggy Wiggly, 193 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:00.879 it's like Clive sixty nine or something like that, and see six almost six 194 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.600 bucks. But if you go to Kroger or Walmart, it's like, I 195 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.600 don't know, three dollars, there's still three bucks over there. Yeah, 196 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:09.279 because I know what the Piggley Wiggly price is, like six dollars, I'm 197 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.200 like, you know what, I'll just spin on it. I can't. 198 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.120 Wiggly has gotten expensive on some stuff lately. I've noticed it. Yeah, 199 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.240 well, because well that's because we keep a bottle of Bottive oil around. 200 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.559 Anyway, I just wanted to stop you since you were walking in handing me 201 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:26.240 a drink, which I really appreciate because I even though I tried to bring 202 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:28.840 a drink in, I didn't bring a big enough drink, So thank you. 203 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:37.360 Anyways, But yeah, six dollars almost huh oh yeah, well, 204 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.799 you know all right, I'll talk to you a little bit anyway. Let 205 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.240 me get back to the radio show. I'm being rude to the to the 206 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:50.000 radio audience. I'm gonna move to have fun. BP you wouldn't move to 207 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:56.320 have fun. Yeah, after this work week. It's been. I mean, 208 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.559 really, we had some issues we had to deal with. But other 209 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.360 than that, did y'all get much from the store? Uh? Yeah, 210 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:03.759 a little bit? You know, it was a little little disruptive. We 211 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.799 had some like you know, power flickering issues, this kind of thing. 212 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:09.759 And it definitely got hot, which is another thing. I don't know. 213 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.240 Seems like my personal air condition is not working too good and I can't figure 214 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:20.320 out why. Actually, you know what you did? Well? Can you 215 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.000 can you fix that? Please? I'm again talking over my shoulder. I'm 216 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.440 sorry about that guy. But we're gonna we're gonna have some fun tonight. 217 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.480 I got a story to tell and I think it's gonna be educational, So 218 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:33.320 I'm gonna get into that in a little bit, but I definitely want to 219 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:37.080 clear away all the other news and other thoughts. The grill, of course, 220 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:41.399 Uh, best way to go. And again, a little dash of 221 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:46.000 olive oil does a lot for a lot of things, right, So it's 222 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.759 always always good to have that around. But you know, some people don't 223 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:54.399 keep that in their kitchens. So what are you gonna do anyway, be 224 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:56.639 Pete, anything else you got in mind there? I mean, outside of 225 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:00.039 this what do we got a shooting for a pregnant lady where they thought he 226 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:01.879 was shoplifting. Uh, I mean, I don't know what the hell else 227 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:07.120 is going on, but it's all well, I mean, other than our 228 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:11.759 our commander in chief showing more signs of Alzheimer's, are there different stages of 229 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:16.840 Alzheimer's or so you just have it or not? No? No, no, 230 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:20.720 no no no, you deteriorate slowly. I mean like Mitch McConnell's now 231 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.000 freezing up more often too. He saw that this week, right, Well, 232 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:26.799 well, yeah, but he is. I mean, he had an 233 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.679 actual he had a pretty serious concussion, so I can see that. But 234 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:37.600 I didn't know if there's like actual specific stages in Alzheimer's, because I think, 235 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:39.480 you know, it's pretty clear, Biden, is you know something? 236 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:43.840 But there's plenty of scientific research that shows the concussions of all sorts lead to 237 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:50.759 way longer lasting issues. And as somebody who's sick, couple, definitely, 238 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:54.559 And but mcconnell'sfinately, did you see McConnell freeze up at that press conference though 239 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:58.360 he was totally out of it, I mean completely, yeah, you know, 240 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:02.679 and that's not the yeah, I mean it's well, will you look 241 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:04.039 at you look at him, you look at all right, Diane Feinstein, 242 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:08.559 she comes back after what did they say? She had pneumonia or something, 243 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.879 but she was out or some kind of lung infection or chest us. Anyway, 244 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.919 she was out for months. You know. She thinks she never went 245 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.480 anywhere. She's been at work the whole time. Yeah, he's had issues 246 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:26.440 from his stroke, and there's more of them. I bet Nadler and a 247 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.960 few others are starting to show some signs. We just haven't seen them in 248 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.080 front of a microphone experience in it. I mean, we've got a lot 249 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:37.120 of old people in the House and the Senate well exactly, I mean getting 250 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:41.240 rid of grastly. I don't understand what he's saying part of the time, 251 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.919 okay, And I don't know if it's just that he forgets to take a 252 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.759 drink, but his throat sounds so dry it makes my throat uncomfortable listening to 253 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.279 him talk, you know, And he didn't always sound like that. Not 254 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.600 all these guys are always completely broken down. Let's see Biden's way gone. 255 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.600 It seems McConnell's been gone forever. Two. Yeah, both I think they're 256 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.680 comparable to the problem that we see, except that you know, Biden mumbles 257 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:07.759 a bit, and I think part of that is due to his stuttering thing. 258 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:11.720 But but of course there's more going on there. And then McConnell, 259 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.200 Yeah, sure, he had a concussion, but I mean, you know, 260 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.920 if he's not recovered, he's not recovered. And if he's you know, 261 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:22.480 look, man, well here's a question. Here's you brought up, 262 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.759 Biden, and I gotta ask and get your opinion on. But here's a 263 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:29.519 question we kick around later if we got nothing to talk about. The Biden 264 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.839 here lately heat down. Over the course of his career, he has told 265 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:38.160 some whoppers. I mean, he's really made some statements that when they were 266 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.359 actually checked just you know, there's no way in hell that could have happened. 267 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:45.200 He's come up with some good ones here lately, and I'm just wondering 268 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:52.799 why is the media giving him such a pass on these things that he says 269 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:59.519 that are blatantly not true. I mean, like this past week at twenty 270 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:03.200 one, he's supposedly talk Strong Thurman into voting for the Civil Rights Act. 271 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:07.440 Well, Strong Thurman didn't vote for the Civil Rights Act. I back in 272 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:11.079 sixty five. There was one in what eighty seven or something when they were 273 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:18.640 changing rules about notifying for changes in voting districts or something like that that he 274 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.559 voted for. But I mean, to come up and make statements like this, 275 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:26.240 it's just when is it? When is somebody gonna finally call him out 276 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.279 on this crap? I don't know, because I'll tell you that's a funny 277 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:36.319 one because if he indeed was able to talk Strong Thurman into voting for the 278 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:40.480 Civil Rights Act in sixty five, I'd be impressed. I mean, that 279 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:44.640 would be an impressive feat. Unfortunately, history don't match, right, you 280 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:48.599 know, and this is the example. But this is the problem. Look, 281 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:52.200 they went through a time period where they had Trump up there, and 282 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.720 Trump would say stuff that was probably wrong and false, and you know, 283 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:00.160 anything from and I mean, I could just go with the silly stuff like 284 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.720 you know, the airplanes during you know, George Washington's time and whatnot, 285 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:08.359 stuff like that, Right, we could go with the silliness there, but 286 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:14.319 also Trump kept goating them and he was good for ratings. If they start 287 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:15.960 picking on Joe, this is the only logic I've got for it, because 288 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:22.440 even Fox doesn't beat up on him. For it, right, It probably 289 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.160 doesn't engage with the viewers, right. I mean, there's a certain segment 290 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:27.519 that are going to be like, you know what, you could just say 291 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:32.240 the most awful things. They don't have to be true, and you can 292 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:34.680 just say, you know, you can just go crazy time and there's gonna 293 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:41.359 be certain people that love it. But I think that Joe is so non 294 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:47.359 combative with the media usually that it'll just look like they're just picking on him. 295 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:51.039 It's not a fight, you know what I mean, It's just picking 296 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.119 on the old man. And I think they don't want to come off like 297 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.079 that because at the end of the day, it's a business. You get 298 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:02.799 good traction out of the call and respe wants with Trump because you can pretend 299 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:06.319 that you're against him and yet keep him on your screen twenty four seven. 300 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:08.160 You know what I mean. You can cover every single one of his moves. 301 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.319 Here's his motor kid, here's this, here's the place he's gonna be 302 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.039 staying at. What's the jail cell? I mean, I had to hear 303 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:17.720 for a week and a half more than I ever heard living in the state 304 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:22.319 of Georgia for I don't know, five six years now about Fulton County's jail. 305 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:27.200 Because it's Trump, right, They'll cover where he's going, they'll cover 306 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:33.960 who he could possibly be talking to. He is an endless supply of love 307 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:38.599 him or hate him material for them to engage with. Is Biden as interesting 308 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:45.839 No, so picking on him might just come off as they're just picking on 309 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.880 the old man. It might derive sympathy for him. I mean, it's 310 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:53.200 much like the stupidity of you know, let's let's try and make Trump look 311 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:59.720 as bad as possible over complex things that most people don't even understand and things 312 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:02.960 that are contentious among the public. Let's do that. What they've done, 313 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.799 at the end of the day, really is increased his levels of support, 314 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:11.599 increased his ability to fundraise. That's the real result from what they've done to 315 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:17.160 prey on Biden, though might in some way, I don't know. I 316 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:18.599 don't know what the result of that would be. Like, I can see 317 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.279 the equation with Trump. I can see the equation with some of these other 318 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:26.079 people. I can see that Chris Christy, notice how unlikable he has no 319 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:32.640 matter what he does, told you, you know, I can see those 320 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:36.480 equations, But I don't know what would happen if the big bad wolf of 321 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:38.759 the news media started picking on him really, which is why I don't even 322 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:44.000 think Fox wants to sit there and really bang on him for everything he says. 323 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:48.839 I mean, lots of his stories wind up not making sense if if 324 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.400 you can sit through him and not fall asleep yourself. You know, yeah, 325 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.839 my dad told me he looks sweetie. I don't know anybody who's a 326 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.720 male that their dad was calling him sweetie. By the way, that's always 327 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:03.960 as are creepy sounding thing coming out of his mouth. I don't know if 328 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:07.000 anybody's ever commented on that, but you ever noticed that every time his dad 329 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:11.839 is talking to him sweetie honey? What dad do you know? Especially you 330 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.160 know, I mean, look, I guess if your dad was like, 331 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.759 I don't know, big fan of Rue Paul's drag race or something, maybe 332 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:26.440 maybe you'd be calling everybody sweetie, honey, dear. Maybe. But if 333 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.559 you're like just the regular dude and you're calling your son sweetie, I've never 334 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:33.759 seen that in my whole life. I've been in many parts of the country, 335 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.920 many parts of the world, and I'll tell you I don't I don't 336 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:42.720 know if you know that's weird. You might call your daughters sweet families to 337 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:47.519 mention, but I mean just saying that you don't you want to get into 338 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:48.759 what you don't want to get it. I'd really like to know what he 339 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.200 calls his daughter, be curious to know what took place her in a few 340 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.640 showers that were mentioned in her diary. No, I don't want to know. 341 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:00.960 Yeah, that's just a's a weird family man. You can't from the 342 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:07.200 daughter, I mean all of them. There's just something wrong there. Yeah, 343 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:10.920 right, But again, it's not like we haven't seen this elsewhere too. 344 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:12.559 Anyway. I don't want to keep going back and forth about it all 345 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:15.640 that, but it's just creepy time to me. Just begins and ends with 346 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:21.839 you're calling your son sweetie honey, and you're telling me that your dad calls 347 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:25.559 you honey and sweetie. And it's like, are you a wearing a dress 348 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:32.000 during this scenario? This is odd anyway. I mean, I you know, 349 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.240 it's just like in the South, right, what a dude? Look? 350 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:37.960 In the South, you go to stores, you deal with clerks, 351 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:41.960 right, probably if you go out to stores every day, probably three out 352 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:48.039 of every seven days, if you deal with a female clerk, she's gonna 353 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.680 call you Shug, Right, that's gonna happen. But now, if you 354 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:57.039 walked into a store and I was your clerk and uh, and I said 355 00:23:57.039 --> 00:24:02.559 what can I get for you, Shug, and you didn't look at me 356 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:04.400 and find me having you know, a bunch of nail polish and some fake 357 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:10.160 eyelashes on and crap. Right, you'd be like, oh, what is 358 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:15.000 going on with this guy? You'd be taken aback by me saying it there 359 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:19.200 are I don't know, I'd probably laugh picturing you saying that, as opposed 360 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:22.480 to you know, somebody else, but you don't think about it. You 361 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.720 got some guy you know's got a death Metal T shirt on, his hair 362 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.559 pulled back. You know it could use a shave, maybe because it's three 363 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.279 days since he last shaved. You was gonna get you anything? She'll yeah, 364 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.880 i'd probably laugh that mess Usually me. I mean, I wouldn't go 365 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:38.880 to work like that if I was working with the public. I mean, 366 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:41.640 you know, I'd at least shave. The rest of it could be true. 367 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.920 You could be you know, you could be working at the place where 368 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.880 your guy got shot. Oh, that brings up another one. We had 369 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:51.039 a shooting at the University of North Carolina. Yes, you did know, 370 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:57.920 No guns own Haven. Chinese doctorate assistant or something got shot by one of 371 00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:03.559 his students, and it took them a while to lock that guy down because 372 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.920 I saw there were constant live alerts and they were trying to shut down the 373 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:08.359 whole area around the campus. There was a bit of a bit of a 374 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:14.480 minute there where I wasn't sure they were going to capture them. Yeah, 375 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.160 so, well they knew they I thought eventually they would because several of the 376 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:22.680 people they called in gave the guy's name when they called in nine one one 377 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:27.559 because they saw it happen and it was in some lab. They've shut down 378 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:30.799 the lab till further or noticed. School was shut down all this week. 379 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.440 Classes were canceled, so they'll probably get back big guns on Tuesday after the 380 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:42.559 holiday. Fair enough. So anyways, I mean, you got you got 381 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:48.079 some more news you want to get into or did anybody else have a possible 382 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.000 mk ultra stroke moment on TV you want to cover or should we move on 383 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.880 to other things? No, we can move on. That's just like I 384 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.559 said, I haven't watched much news this week at all, solve in the 385 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.240 weather stuff. Yeah, well, there was a lot of the weather bombardment 386 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:08.079 too, and then of course some discussions about Maui here and there. But 387 00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.359 I think that's going to disappear from the news feeds really quick. Of course, 388 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:14.880 that's not going to disappear from the debris in front of people that are 389 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.440 actually there. I will say, Maria Heller gave me a different way to 390 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.440 look at it. I didn't realize that that was actually like the poor section 391 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.000 that really burnt up bad there. But would that be? I mean, 392 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.440 because it's hard for me to picture a poor section in Hawaii. Uh. 393 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.960 You know. An odd example of that is, you know there's two states 394 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:37.720 in the Union where you have full service gas, right and where gas attendants 395 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.039 have to pump it for you. And in Hawaii, almost all of the 396 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:47.960 gas stations there are also full service, simply because the population there demands it. 397 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:51.000 It's very expensive to live in Hawaii, you know. It's sort of 398 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.759 like being poor in New York City means that you still got about triple the 399 00:26:53.799 --> 00:27:00.319 income I've got and can't afford to live there. You know, remember back 400 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:04.759 in the day when they used to run like Dominoes or pizza hut commercials, 401 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:11.000 and they would always have in type on the screen prices higher in Alaska and 402 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:15.000 Hawaii. Yep. And they don't see that anymore in a lot of ads, 403 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.279 but just be on all the advertising. Yeah yeah, yeah, but 404 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.000 see that was true also. But I think, you know, we've gotten 405 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.119 a lot more global about shipping and stuff, and it used to be difficult. 406 00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.839 You had to ship supplies to Alaska and Hawaii, which was you know, 407 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:33.359 immensely more difficult than sending it to one of the contiguous fifty I mean 408 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.440 forty eight. Excuse me. But the thing is, I mean it's easier 409 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:40.240 to send it to Lower Canada than it is to send it to Alaska. 410 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:44.839 It's just a further trip. So as per usual, anything with more transportation 411 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.880 is going to add to the cost. But no, and that's the other 412 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.119 thing is you'll see coupons. These coupons are you know, usable in every 413 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:56.799 state except right a couple of places, like like gasoline coupons are illegal in 414 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.599 New Jersey. See, I know a lot of stuff about gas stations because 415 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.960 I ran gas stations and convenience stores. But anyways, I guess, I 416 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:07.880 guess we got a couple of other network updates to get to so I'm gonna 417 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.640 get to those. Maybe we'll take a break before we get to those, 418 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.359 talk about what's going on with the network, a couple of changes that are 419 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.799 taking place, a couple of things coming up. I mean, I'm getting 420 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.559 more and more happy about the idea that we're going to Dallas. Got to 421 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.079 say, I'm looking forward to that because this is where we're going to turn 422 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.279 things around. There's going to be a special sub event along with the Lancer 423 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.839 Conference for the tenth anniversary of the o'chelli effect. So you know, we 424 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.160 got a few people that are going to be there that are attached to the 425 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.880 network in one way or another, especially myself and b Pete because we're going 426 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.799 on the road trip together to get there in the first place. I'm told 427 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.200 that nature Boy is going to join us there. We shall see who else. 428 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.920 Mike Swanson, Larry Hancock should be there, barring any problems, of 429 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:59.960 course, and there's a possibility of a couple of surprise guests that are gonna 430 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.960 show. Plus a couple of people from Texas have said they're just gonna come 431 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:06.519 down there to hang out with us for the day or something, have lunch 432 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.839 or a beer or something. I don't know how that's gonna work out. 433 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.720 Maybe we'll figure it out, get you in on the student price at the 434 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:17.279 conference or something so you can get in, or maybe I can add you 435 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.559 as my Seeing I person. You know, I'm legally allowed one of those 436 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.599 at any public event, right like in every state. I mean, you 437 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.160 know, I don't like to call attention to my handicap, but what the 438 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.160 hell. If I can get a free admission for somebody, or a free 439 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.680 bus ticket or something, I do it, or you know, reduced price, 440 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.519 so what the hell. But yeah, so we're gonna have to get 441 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.400 to all that stuff. I did it, Like I said, I had 442 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.559 some audio stuff set up, but I listened to it myself and decided it 443 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.839 was not worthy of the discussion. Quite Frankly, I'm going to do a 444 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.480 solo show at some point discussing how it is we've been programmed to be connected 445 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:59.359 to a piece of land and an identifying marker and a spot on a map, 446 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.920 and it's not something by choice, even though we embrace it. I 447 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.880 mean, it's sort of like, why are you a Mets fan, Chuck 448 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.519 Well? Because I grew up in New Jersey and I was close to that 449 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:15.200 major League team. H Well, why would you stay attached to that? 450 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.680 The guys have changed. Everything else has changed, the uniforms that even changed 451 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.359 a bunch. I mean, why are you so attached to that? Well, 452 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.160 maybe I have an answer to some of that stuff. Why it is 453 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.799 that we own and I do it all the time. I always own Jersey. 454 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.839 I love the fact that I'm from Jersey, and it is a defining 455 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:37.680 piece of my character because there's an endocrine system that gets developed psychologically when you're 456 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.559 from a certain area, you're exposed to similar things. But I gotta tell 457 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:48.559 you, I don't think that's as big of an identifier as a lot of 458 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.880 people want to make it out to be, especially not now. We're very 459 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:57.200 disconnected from our neighborhoods and stuff. But I think there's actually a more insidious 460 00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:03.200 piece of the plan that gets you tied to things that really aren't even your 461 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.119 concern where all of a sudden, I mean, you know, as kids, 462 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:07.880 stupidly, you defend your block, you defend your neighborhood, and this 463 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.240 kind of thing. Maybe maybe it's just the Jersey thing, and I don't 464 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.920 know it's so I'm going to discuss it publicly on a solo show at some 465 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.319 point, but that was part of what I was going to do tonight, 466 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:21.279 and I decided this is too boring. I got other things I could cover, 467 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.960 and I'm making changes with the network, and some of them were not 468 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.000 my choice, but they happened, and I'm gonna have to cover those and 469 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.440 a couple of things, you know what, with a little bit of reevaluation, 470 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.359 a little bit of reorganization. I got to thank people that turned around 471 00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:44.000 and decided to bail on the network and such, because you've actually done me 472 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.240 a great favor and I didn't know it, didn't know it at the time, 473 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:49.680 but a lot of things have happened this week. I didn't have a 474 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.160 lot of shows. I've got a couple of jobs I got to do. 475 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.160 But we're gonna roll back into things in a little different way coming up. 476 00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.720 Aaron Franz still sticking with me, so, you know, somehow or other, 477 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.559 I've managed not to engage in a fight with him, but apparently I 478 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.799 got to answer a couple of questions about maybe why some things happen. So 479 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:14.160 I'm gonna do that in the next segment, but be pete before we go 480 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.000 there, and again ask for calls which I'm not going to ask for him 481 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:20.279 again until I tell you guys a little story and I think it'll be educational 482 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.799 and hopefully entertaining in the next segment. But before we go there on any 483 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:27.119 of that, be Pete, is there anything we gotta get to here on 484 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.599 this Friday as far as you're concerned? We In fact, if you wanted 485 00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:35.200 to go ahead and take that break, I'll go put on some coffee, 486 00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:37.880 all right, how about you do that? Be Pete's gonna go put on 487 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:42.599 some coffee again if you go outside to smoke, smoke them while you got 488 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.440 him. But otherwise, if you want to join us, wait a little 489 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.559 bit, maybe more, just a little more, and write down the number 490 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:54.400 three one nine five two seven five zero one six three one nine five two 491 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:59.559 seven five zero one six. That's the number to call in to become part 492 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.519 of the A and myself and be Pete. Whoever the hell decides of call 493 00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:22.000 in. We'll be back after this. Oh, Chili dot com, Wall 494 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:32.960 Street Street Window dot do gold Silver, the stock market, Wall Street Window 495 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:38.119 dot com. Perhaps you're invested deeply, Perhaps you're not in deep enough. 496 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:45.039 Maybe you're thinking about getting started. 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Before World War II, 505 00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:30.239 the United States was a continental republic. In the decade that followed, 506 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:35.079 it became an imperial superpower. Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to 507 00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:38.000 invade Cuba, but knew that there were short range missiles on the island armed 508 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:43.199 with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy because they were on mobile launchers. 509 00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.480 Their invasion could have led to a Third World War, and they wanted to 510 00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:52.360 go to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson reveals why and will 511 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:57.079 show you what President Kennedy was up against for more information the war State dot 512 00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.599 com, Uncle, do you remember that time when Benjamin Fulford said that an 513 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:07.159 Asian secret society was going to dispatch ninjas to take down the Illuminati? Oh 514 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.239 that's interesting, Yeah and the clatoon? Yeah? Did that ever work out 515 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:15.559 too good? No? It didn't did it didn't work? But here on 516 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.199 o'celli dot com Radio network, things work out a bit better, don't they 517 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:25.119 much better? Much? It's cleland and understanding about the programs, the programs 518 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:32.119 much Cleland getting live people into it. They really have a good conversation going 519 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.639 much better, so much better scene. I say, forget Benjamin Fulford and 520 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.119 his ninches and listen to the Ocelli dot Com Radio Network. I agree, 521 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.119 it's straight to the point, straight talk, and I liked that idea. 522 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:50.079 Ocelli dot com, go ahead. I'm just giving the truth about the day's 523 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.199 a assassination? Right, Well, what do you want to know? D 524 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:57.440 Baker's wild claim Oswald girlfriends he knew Ruby and Barry dancer weapons. Really, 525 00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.239 I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It doesn't make me a 526 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.320 wagon. But okay, Oswald was on the Joe and Tie prevent the murder 527 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.079 of John Kennedy. Come on, now has it Wheel Eckert on the day 528 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:12.639 kay Fascination Go into her claims. Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker 529 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.360 in her own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy of a 530 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:21.280 book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words and the known evidence in the case 531 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:25.440 to get at Well a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith Barry 532 00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:30.199 Baker in her own words from the author himself signed if you request it by 533 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:37.199 contacting doctor Brown at Kia s jfk at aol dot com. It's a fun 534 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:42.880 book and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims. Judith Barry Baker 535 00:36:43.000 --> 00:37:39.800 in her own words, thank you for all the great information. Let's see 536 00:37:42.000 --> 00:38:04.440 watch your son to see what you want your screens and ship listen once you 537 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:20.639 are one that can send from Live with Well, Well well sends to come. 538 00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:47.960 This is so well. This is stand out to sea. I say 539 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:40.519 where you starting because you think your searching for something. This is something that 540 00:39:40.599 --> 00:40:55.039 you're going to say searching I would make or something. Oh Chili dot Com. 541 00:40:55.280 --> 00:41:14.599 Revelation through Conversation segment number two of the Live Friday night open mic on 542 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:20.199 Ocelli dot Com The Ocelli Effect. So here we are anyway, I barely 543 00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.519 did any shows this week, I gotta tell you, and I spend a 544 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.519 little time working on a couple of different things changed up, some stuff changed, 545 00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.559 some plans, and uh, you know, finalized a couple of things 546 00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:35.719 that needed to be finalized. So I took care of that this week, 547 00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.800 and next week we're gonna have a lot more going on. Shally, you'll 548 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.239 be with us now. He was actually kept off due to the weather, 549 00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:46.079 So you're gonna hear from Andrew Shalli, the guy who used to host Cold 550 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.920 Reality News all that good stuff. Regular Joe will be returning. I'm gonna 551 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.639 try and get Carmine Sabastano in. There's a couple of other people that want 552 00:41:54.639 --> 00:42:00.199 to record at me during the day or earlier where I used to have timeslots 553 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.440 that were filled and are no longer filled. So I'm gonna be able to 554 00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.639 do some earlier in the day recordings that I wasn't able to do before, 555 00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:13.559 So that's gonna happen. Also, might hear from a couple of publishers. 556 00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.360 I got a few things in the works. There regarding some audio stuff that 557 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:21.679 I'm supposed to do and hopefully that pays off. Now I do know that 558 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.679 I've got one little piece of contract work that I now no longer know who 559 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.840 to give it to, Which was funny because I got this in the midst 560 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:35.639 of a little weird online feuding thing that was kind of going on on Twitter, 561 00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:40.280 and I could I could use somebody that knows how to work with a 562 00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:47.199 script for documentaries. I don't mind giving them some technical advice on a couple 563 00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:52.000 of things, but I'm not a script guy. I understand theatrical blocking for 564 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:59.760 plays and stuff. I don't know how you write scripts for TV shows anyway. 565 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.840 There there's some subcontractor that works for Discovery somehow or the Discovery Network. 566 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.400 I know that there. Their checks don't bounce, they don't pay a lot, 567 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.519 their checks don't bounce, and currently they're not able to use regular writers 568 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.480 that they would use that are in the union or whatever at the moment. 569 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:20.039 But so they don't need somebody to write, but they need some kind of 570 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:21.880 help, and uh, yeah, I don't know how to do it. 571 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.079 I'm not a writer. So anyways, I got that going on, but 572 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:30.000 it is what it is. And uh, so I guess we'll we'll get 573 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:35.039 to the not the elephant in the room, but the the the oddity. 574 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.800 A couple of people ask me what happened? Why is it that get Mad 575 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:44.760 is no longer on, etc. So I guess I'll explain that real fast, 576 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.920 but I got to kind of go the long way around it because quite 577 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:54.599 frankly, I'm a little confused. But anyway, let's see now two fridays 578 00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:59.920 ago. Yeah, two fridays ago is where I think this started, which, 579 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.079 by the way, be pete before I get into this. Is there 580 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:06.079 anything else you want to cover real quick? Or should we just move on 581 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.480 with this? Okay, go ahead and jump right in. And I also 582 00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:14.840 have no callers, so anyway, the number is three one nine five two 583 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.760 seven five zero one six if you want to join three one nine five two 584 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.920 seven five zero one six. If not, I've got material to cover, 585 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.440 and I do have some audio stuff if I want to play it. But 586 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:29.400 I don't want to do the clip thing right at the moment because it's just 587 00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.840 the concept I had didn't come together right. So I can do better just 588 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.719 by talking to you. So anyway, I'm gonna ask a couple of questions 589 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.840 of your b Pete, So you know, stick around, don't don't totally 590 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.480 walk away from your mic. Okay, sure, but mostly I'm gonna tell 591 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.519 this story. So, like two weeks ago, two Fridays ago, that 592 00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:52.559 was towards the end of the of this show, this call in show on 593 00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:57.159 a Friday, there was this dispute between Chris and b Pete a bit, 594 00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.000 which is set off a couple of things. Now, First of all, 595 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.800 everybody wanted to tune in the next week and hear this debate between the two 596 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:10.199 of them regarding Building seven, which quite frankly, I sort of stand on 597 00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:15.440 the side that Chris is on, but I entertain people that oppose me. 598 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.599 So I'm sitting there going, well, yeah, you gotta make a reasonable 599 00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:22.960 argument about things like building seven or demolition or you know, why is it 600 00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:28.199 that we have problems with what people witness versus what the official story is. 601 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:31.039 And anybody that tells me they buy the official story of nine to eleven, 602 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.159 I say, Okay, that's cool, and I want to know who ties 603 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.400 your shoes, because I don't think you're really thinking if you buy the entire 604 00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:42.480 story. I don't think you're thinking. I don't think you studied it, 605 00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.760 I don't think you understand what went on there. I don't think it's plausible 606 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:51.840 that the entirety of the official story is true. Stand with the idea and 607 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.199 believe that even an objective person who wants to believe the official stories would have 608 00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:00.119 to agree with the basic statement that John Gold makes about well, we were 609 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.599 lied to about nine to eleven. One way or another. You'd have to 610 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:06.880 buy that. Why do I say it? Because after all, even if 611 00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:08.239 you go for the aftermath, and when they told people it was safe to 612 00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:13.159 go back in there, and Christy Todd Whitman, for the former governor of 613 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:15.400 New Jersey, was telling people as head of the EPA, it's all good. 614 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:20.920 She was lying to you. Clearly. That's why people have exotic lung 615 00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:23.159 diseases today. I mean, even if you go with the minimalist idea what 616 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:28.000 happened here, something is strange and a lot of legend has been built. 617 00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.159 I mean, I just saw the other day that on some TV station they 618 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:34.920 were rerunning Flight ninety three, the movie. A whole lot of stuff in 619 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:39.000 there that they had to fabricate, because even if the absolute official story is 620 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:43.519 true, they had to fabricate a lot of filler there. I mean, 621 00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:47.480 you know, they didn't have eyewitness testimony, they didn't have physical evidence to 622 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:52.679 back up a ton of things that they represent in that movie and the comic 623 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.079 book that the government put out, you know, because they put out a 624 00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.400 comics version of the nine eleven Commission report. All that's true, But if 625 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.519 you're going to attack that, you gotta stand on a certain ground and you 626 00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.840 gotta come back with a certain amount of evidence. So I wanted Chris to 627 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:09.679 have that opportunity to do it. He got fed up and said something to 628 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:14.039 be Pete like, okay, never mind, you win, to which B 629 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.519 Pete got pissed off. And you know what this is. I've had these 630 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:22.679 incidents with B Pete a few times myself. One time, be Pete hung 631 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.360 up on this show. Didn't come back because of something I said, and 632 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.960 it was probably a flippant remark, and he doesn't take well to us. 633 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.519 But anyway, after the show, and I'm now going to reveal something that 634 00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:36.000 was off air, B Pete though, I mean, unless you really want 635 00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.800 to stop me, I'm gonna tell him what happened after that show. You 636 00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:43.519 cool with us? Well, yeah, I'm fine. I just you know, 637 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:45.039 I'd like, you know, to throw my two cents in there at 638 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.519 this point. You know, I've talked to Chuck Off flying about I told 639 00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.639 him, I said, you know, anything that was part of that discussion, 640 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:54.039 they've crossed any hate and discontent I've apologized for. But yeah, he 641 00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.760 made a flippant remark and I felt like he was just, I don't know, 642 00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.519 kind of dismissing the fact that, oh, I just didn't want to 643 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:05.159 you know, I want the argument because I didn't want to do it. 644 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.719 No, that's really not what was behind it. But you know, Okay, 645 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.960 well that's fine. I'm sorry, you know, if it caused any 646 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.880 heartburn, but well I'm only gonna deal with so much heartburn from an individual. 647 00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.960 Well, this is where my supposition comes in, because I'm not sure 648 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:24.840 if this is what started the actual problem, but feels right. So this 649 00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:29.880 is this is some of my extrapolation from events. I think this is what 650 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:32.840 started part of a problem. But but you you didn't cause this, so 651 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.480 no need to apologize. But here's the thing, both of you, my 652 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:43.079 estimation, neither one of you acted properly or correctly here or in the smoothest 653 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.199 way. There was definitely contention there, and you have a tendency to pop 654 00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:51.239 off at people when you get mad. I know this very well. Okay, 655 00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:54.599 it happened to me. I don't blame you for it, but it's 656 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:58.679 not always the best listen, okay. And I've told you that before, 657 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:00.679 and I've said this to you for that, and it's not really the best 658 00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.039 thing to hear when you know, like when you and Glenn were yelling at 659 00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:07.639 each other the one night, kind of stuck to hear it because the two 660 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.440 of you're talking over each other suck. Now. That happened to be the 661 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:14.639 main focus of what BP got mad about that night, not really Chris, 662 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.800 although Chris pissed him off. He was kind of mad at the fact that 663 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.719 we've had a problem for a while with too many people jumping over each other 664 00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:27.920 on phone calls where I leave everybody on the line, and that's a little 665 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.599 weird. He shouldn't always leave everybody on the line. Regular radio shows, 666 00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:34.440 you know, you usually got a rush to get your points out because you're 667 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:38.280 gonna get just went dead. So I just went dead. You just went 668 00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:42.320 dead. It cut out. That's all to you. Now you're back, 669 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.599 okay. Well, I was saying on a regularly. And also Jimmy meant 670 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.639 Jimmy said it in the room too. So that's why when you win side 671 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.920 and I figured you win sidling on a couple of people because he was oh 672 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:59.440 said it was breaking up. Okay, so continue, no, no problem, 673 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:00.719 I'm gonna I'm going to continue. But here's what I'm doing is I'm 674 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:06.599 making sure to restart the encoder so that we're definitely broadcasting, because I don't 675 00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.639 want I don't want this cut off anyway. As I was saying, Bpete 676 00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:15.199 actually got more mad at a consistent problem we were having on the show, 677 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:20.280 and that consistent problem was that I leave people on the lines a long time. 678 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.960 And we've done this on all the shows on the network, where we 679 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.679 take a call or we leave them there, mostly unless the host, which, 680 00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:28.840 by the way, the host is always in control of their show. 681 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:36.320 Nowadays that's only really Aaron at this point and uncle. But that's where we're 682 00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.480 getting to on this story eventually. But quite honestly, the host determines they 683 00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:44.159 want to have somebody on, keep them on whatever, and everybody's kind of 684 00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:46.639 gone along with this methodology that I used, which has let everybody be on 685 00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:50.920 there and if we are all you know, common, respectable and take our 686 00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.679 turns, then it all works out. But because we're all communicating at a 687 00:50:54.760 --> 00:51:00.159 distance through these certain facilities that don't allow two micro phones to mix in at 688 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:06.000 the same time, we're really only allowed one speaker at a time. And 689 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.880 that's just the technical issue. And Beepete was very angry at the fact that 690 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.880 it felt like he's always getting cut off, and he was he was actually 691 00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:16.719 correct, But I've been frustrated with it and not really sure how to deal 692 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.800 with it. I like the idea that we have the open discussion. I 693 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.599 wanted to try and do it that way, but clearly I can't, not 694 00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:30.360 with the existing technology. So until I upgrade to a system that allows us 695 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:35.199 a full mix where everybody's mic is equally powerful. Except the course, I 696 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.920 have the god switch, I have the kill switch, unless we get to 697 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:43.000 that point, because I do have the kill switch for everybody. But you 698 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:47.559 know, here we go. If if I have everybody open, I either 699 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:52.199 have to cut him off or they have to restrain themselves, and they also 700 00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:57.599 have to restrain their noise because your noises could bleed over somebody trying to speak, 701 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.360 and you're gone. Anyway, Beepete made a lot of good points, 702 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.239 but he was pretty angry, and I think he took about twenty minutes venting 703 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.360 about this. To me, would that be about accurate to you your memory? 704 00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:12.400 Yeah, maybe twenty five. It was close to thirty probably I was 705 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.280 gonna say that, but I was trying to be I'm always trying to be 706 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.079 conservative on these estimates. Keep that in mind as I go through with this 707 00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:21.960 story. Yeah, so twenty to thirty minutes, and you ranted, And 708 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.000 what did I say? Basically, you know what'd be Pete, You're right, 709 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:29.280 I've got to get more control over this there. It's been too sloppy. 710 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.119 I've had people say I would call in, but you know what the 711 00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.000 problem is, I won't get a word in edgewise. And that's the other 712 00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:39.079 impression that's not allowing us to attract new callers because not the fault of the 713 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:44.079 caller, mind you, it's my fault because I'm not taking control of this 714 00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.480 situation. So I said, you know what, I got to think about 715 00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:49.320 this. I got to come up with a new way to take control of 716 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.719 the situation. Now. In the meantime, I'm thinking that also the following 717 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:58.119 week, I'll be able to return to this situation with Chris and be Pete 718 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:02.440 put them both on, let them have a debate, and that wasn't gonna 719 00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:07.719 happen. Chris pretty much said to me, I'll paraphrase, I'm feeling sick. 720 00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:10.880 I don't want to bother with this, and I don't want to argue 721 00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.280 with somebody who talks to me like that. Blah blah, okay, fare 722 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:19.880 no point, no problem there. Okay, we're gonna skip over that. 723 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.639 But I didn't say anything. I just said, Okay, great, that's 724 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:24.280 fine. We don't have to do that anyway. I'll come up with something 725 00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:30.320 else because I need to change the whole program anyway. Didn't me a favor 726 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:31.719 there. I said, all right, I don't have to now try and 727 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.519 figure out how to host the nine to eleven debate, because really what I 728 00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.800 need to do is revamp the Friday call in show. And I would do 729 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:44.079 this for four hours on Fridays. I would do this for five hours on 730 00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:50.119 a Friday if it was not exhausting, and if it was not problematic, 731 00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.559 and if we had more phone callers. So I simultaneously want to figure out 732 00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:59.280 a way to bring in more callers I want to bring on more variety. 733 00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.960 I want to move things along better. And I came up with this idea 734 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:06.880 of five or fifteen minutes of fame. You get on for five minutes, 735 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.800 you can make your points. We'll try and not molest your time as best 736 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:15.000 we can. And you know, maybe you get brought back three times, 737 00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:19.519 but maybe not. Now that's a better deal than you get on most terrestrial 738 00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:22.800 radio stations. Usually on a terrestrial radio station, you got to try and 739 00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:24.400 get it out there. And oh, by the way, if you run 740 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:29.159 up against the commercial break, you're very lucky if that host doesn't just cut 741 00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:32.039 you off after thirty seconds of speaking until you try again tomorrow or the next 742 00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:37.039 week, and you just only got thirty seconds of time. Some of them 743 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:40.199 will keep you over. I'll hold you over to the commercial. You're like 744 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.679 thanking them for that after that, because nobody puts up with anybody talking on 745 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:49.719 as long as I do. Now. Granted I was also keeping people on 746 00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:54.360 hold a long time, but that was only a recent problem. Anyway, 747 00:54:54.760 --> 00:55:00.599 this is almost not relevant to the changes that come up, except then I 748 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:05.400 think this put a bad taste in Chris's mouth. Now, apparently he had 749 00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:08.280 some other negativity toward me, which he decided to vent on me. And 750 00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:13.679 I'll keep that to myself because he shared that privately, and even though I'm 751 00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:19.239 a horrible human being according to what he said to me, and obviously way 752 00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.519 more toxic than I ever thought I was. I mean, I always said 753 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:24.239 I must be toxic and that he's a more likable guy than me, and 754 00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:28.400 I said those things to him privately and he turned them on me. But 755 00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:30.800 outside of that, I would say, you know what, Yeah, fine, 756 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:32.960 you're right, you know what, I'm just one of these guys that 757 00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.679 I mean, I do not have a big opinion to myself anyway. I 758 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:43.239 got a very negative ego about myself anyway. I don't think much of myself, 759 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.000 So fair enough whatever, I'll even give you all those points, whatever 760 00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:51.000 it is you got to say there anyways, So I think he got a 761 00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:55.320 negative something matter that and was in a bad mood and was also telling me 762 00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:59.400 he couldn't breathe he was sick, and he's been sick like that a punch 763 00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:04.360 as of late, and I think a bunch of times anyway, details of 764 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.039 his problems, I'm not going to give you those, that's up to him. 765 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:09.760 I'm sure there'll be some response to this somewhere, so he'll say what 766 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:14.679 he's got to say, and he'll turn it any which way he's got to 767 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:19.360 turn it. But anyway, he had recently done some movie shows and he 768 00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.599 wanted me to play a bunch of clips, eight nine clips whatever. Some 769 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.239 of them were long, some of them were unnecessary. Some of them make 770 00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.920 it hard for me to be able to monetize if I ever turn around and 771 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.719 try and monetize any of this, because this copywritten material that he's bringing in, 772 00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:36.239 there's a bunch of music that comes along with movie soundtracks, whole bunch 773 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:38.960 of complications and unnecessary and oh, by the way, if you go over 774 00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:44.119 to YouTube, there's plenty of these movie tribute things that are in a visual 775 00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.320 for him, that are usually done a hell of a lot better than what 776 00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:50.719 we're going to be able to accomplish over here on Ocelli dot Com without a 777 00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:55.400 script, without a visual element, and also with maybe somebody not playing things 778 00:56:55.440 --> 00:57:00.000 out too well. Because here's the thing we go through Jaws for, we 779 00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:04.559 go through a couple of other things we dittributes to some comedians, and some 780 00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:07.840 of those things I found value in, But again I don't try and control 781 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:09.519 anybody's content. You do what's your show, what you want if you're up 782 00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:13.960 here with me, and I try to facilitate it as best I can. 783 00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.360 So on that Friday, the next Friday, because the whole week went by 784 00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:23.159 and Chris was not feeling well during that week, I guess he was able 785 00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.360 to make the some shows, wasn't able to make it to others, but 786 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:30.000 didn't make it to too many of the ones here except he wanted to do 787 00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:36.400 a back to the future retrospective on Friday. That's what I'll call it, 788 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.400 but I don't know if that's what he would call it. Whatever, I'm 789 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:43.159 not releasing that pot. If he wants a copy of it, he can 790 00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.119 have it, but I don't think it's very much value to him. So 791 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:49.719 whatever it is, what it is, it exists, but I don't know 792 00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:52.840 if anybody's ever going to hear it. Anyways. What does he do day 793 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:58.360 before is he sends me And these are not exaggeration numbers. These are fairly 794 00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:06.480 precise nineteen audio clips which I have to take, record, label and put 795 00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.480 in the proper order, and then play them based on his cues during his 796 00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:14.000 show, and try and facilitate his ability to go in and out of these 797 00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:20.440 clips and make this happen. This is normal procedure, except that I've never 798 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:27.199 had anybody. Total time that I worked with Jack Blood show, I would 799 00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:34.840 say that there was about maybe that amount of clips outside of like his intros 800 00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.280 and outros, that he might have given me nineteen clips over the course of 801 00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:43.239 a year to do. But Chris gave me nineteen for one show, which 802 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:50.039 by the way, also timed out to fifty three minutes plus. Now I 803 00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:52.960 said to him in a skype comment, I said, do you really need 804 00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:59.000 all nineteen of these clips, to which he said back, okay, if 805 00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:00.360 you're gonna give me a problem, never mind. I just wanted to have 806 00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:04.320 fun. But you know, whatever the problem is. And then all this 807 00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:06.679 time I said, okay, look, look, I'm gonna go do this. 808 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:09.639 But I was just asking a question, and in fairness, I was 809 00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:15.159 asking a question as a producer because the target of his show was to try 810 00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:17.079 and get it done in an hour to an hour and a half, and 811 00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:22.400 he's given me fifty three minutes of clips, and those fifty three minutes of 812 00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.119 clips now have to be combined with him talking in and out of them, 813 00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:30.320 him taking a break, maybe him giving his intro an outro, right, 814 00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:37.880 And I know that any small clip that he's ever done, because I keep 815 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:39.440 track of the clock, because I'm supposed to be producing the show. You 816 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:44.360 know, I'm not just a moron sitting here doing nothing. I know that 817 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.360 he talks a minimum of four minutes. So if you imagine that, you 818 00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:52.639 got to put four minutes in between nineteen clips at fifty three plus minutes. 819 00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:54.679 And by the way, that was the lower estimate. It's probably a little 820 00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:59.199 higher. It's probably about an hour's worth of clips, and then you gotta 821 00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:06.079 do let's just call it, eighteen segments at four minutes apiece. Well, 822 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:10.519 you've now just run over two hours if you do all of the clips and 823 01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:14.679 you assume four minutes in between each one, and if not, you got 824 01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:19.719 to strictly time this. But I was a bad guy for asking that, 825 01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:22.519 and then he started commenting on Facebook and a few on the pot maybe I 826 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:27.239 am asking too much obviously, so I can't have fun with my little show, 827 01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.800 okay, But I recorded all nineteen of them, labeled them all and 828 01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:35.880 had him ready. Then I had to reboot my router, and I was 829 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:40.800 a couple of minutes late getting to him probably irritated him also, so all 830 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.559 he wants to know when we connect on Skypei, are you mad at me? 831 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:50.079 I'm very calmly, very succinctly said, you know what you're telling me, 832 01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.119 you're sick. I hear you breathe and heavy. I don't want to 833 01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:58.159 talk about this right now, to which he felt he had the right to 834 01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:07.880 start growling and yelling at me like that. This now pissed me off a 835 01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:12.119 little. But you know what, I did nothing. I said, you 836 01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.880 know what, do you want to do your show or not? I'm here 837 01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:19.039 to do it. I'm ready to go. If you want to bag it, 838 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:20.719 we can bag it. You want to go, we can go. 839 01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:25.599 You tell me, that's what we'll do. Keeping a calm head about this 840 01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:30.719 and not barking back at a guy who's yelling at me, okay, because 841 01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:36.480 wouldn't have been fair, I think, to cause somebody who was telling me 842 01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:40.519 they were stressed and couldn't breathe to fight with him. And I even asked 843 01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:44.079 at some point, I said, am I that kind of an a hole 844 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:50.199 that is going to argue with a guy who's clearly stressed out? And I 845 01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.199 should have known right when he gave me the reaction of I don't know, 846 01:01:53.840 --> 01:02:00.960 then I knew what I was then dealing with. So anyway, without playing 847 01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:02.599 the clips, and I could play clips from his show, but I didn't 848 01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:07.920 set any of those up. I didn't prepare them, so that preparation I 849 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:09.519 didn't bother to prepare it because I don't want to run this into the ground. 850 01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:13.119 As a matter of fact, I want to finish this whole discussion tonight 851 01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:16.039 if I can. But I got a feeling it's not going to finish there, 852 01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:20.760 and it's too funny as to why it doesn't finish. Anyway, we 853 01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.679 did this show, he was gone. That was that, and then I 854 01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:29.079 said when I went to my Friday show, and he was obviously still upset 855 01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:31.800 about the situation, kind of butchered his own show, so I don't know 856 01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.320 what the hell's going on whatever, didn't even speak after one of his clips 857 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:37.800 finished playing. So I popped on my mic, said do you want me 858 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:40.960 to play to the next clip, Chris? And you know you're go ahead, 859 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.519 And that's all recorded. That part of it is. I wish i'd 860 01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:49.639 recorded more of it because then I could prove that what I'm saying is you 861 01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:52.719 know, true, instead of you know, somebody just making up stories. 862 01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:55.280 But this is what went on. So I'm figuring the guy's upset, he 863 01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.559 needs to cool off. I'm gonna let it go, so I said on 864 01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:00.119 my Friday show at the beginning, Look, I don't want to talk about 865 01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:04.480 what happened with Graves. We're not doing the thing from last week. So 866 01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:09.119 it's just gonna be what it's gonna be. Let's move on. Well, 867 01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:14.679 unbeknownst in me, missus O in the chat room, when ask what happened 868 01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:21.599 with Chris, said that he had some sand in his vagina. Now, 869 01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.679 I didn't authorize that. I don't control that. And by the way, 870 01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:25.920 if you think you can control a woman, I mean, I don't know 871 01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:30.039 what country you live in, but as far as I know, American women 872 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:32.559 my whole lifetime control what they say. If you get one of those, 873 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:37.719 I mean, you know, even a battered wife will usually tell you to 874 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:43.639 go screw yourself. You know, at some point, I got no control 875 01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.519 over this. I wasn't even in the chat room. But apparently that really 876 01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:52.079 said him more so he messaged me a couple of times during the show and 877 01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:55.360 whatnot, and that was the end. Of days right there. Oh. 878 01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.280 One other additional to this, though, is that missus O called in during 879 01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:03.599 the break and we were not on air, and she had a few things 880 01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:08.079 to say to it. I kept saying, look, let's not discuss this 881 01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:13.440 in front of anybody. Let's not do this, because obviously I ranted in 882 01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.960 my own home, in my privacy by myself, and by the way, 883 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.840 she might have been quoting me about the sand in the vagina, but I 884 01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:23.440 don't think so. I don't think she heard me because I might have said 885 01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:26.800 something like that in the middle of a tirade because I was pissed off that 886 01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.360 this guy has the nerve to yell at me when what did I do to 887 01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:39.280 him? Nothing? Nothing, Okay. I was there to facilitate his podcast. 888 01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:42.960 I was calm. I was refusing to engage, even with him yelling 889 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.760 at me and talking to me like, you know what, I'm some kind 890 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:53.119 of a guy that you that you're you're intimidating me, You're you're trying to 891 01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:56.800 intimidating me, intimidate me. Which which you which you're you're, you're you're 892 01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:01.480 I don't know what, well, okay, whatever, But I tried to 893 01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:04.519 just take it like, look, man, Just cool off, go get 894 01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:09.280 your head together. I'll talk to you when you're calm. But he didn't 895 01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:14.800 get calm because he stayed angry over the sand in the vagina. He considered 896 01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:19.119 it an attack his words, uh, you know. And after a few 897 01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:24.800 things being said on Twitter and whatnot, and then some snide remarks about you 898 01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:29.039 know, the various people that he's always got to defend me, you know 899 01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:32.400 two and everything else, I finally started to respond to him on Twitter like, 900 01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:35.639 Okay, go ahead, have your little childish rants. You're childish, 901 01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.440 You're you're the guy with the Sandy guys. So I'm just gonna block you, 902 01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:42.639 Sandy guy. Meanwhile, I'm not even the one who said it, 903 01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:50.280 missus oh said it. I don't control her. I wouldn't want to control 904 01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:53.480 a woman, but you know, even if I could, I mean, 905 01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:57.559 I mean, you know, pimps and dudes that run colts control women. 906 01:05:57.639 --> 01:06:00.960 But other than that, I don't know. Maybe it's just because I'm from 907 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:04.360 Jersey. Well anyways, I'm not sure about that, but I am sure 908 01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:09.599 about this. That the sand and the vagina thing. I found kind of 909 01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:14.280 funny that that was the thing that set him on. I didn't say that 910 01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:15.920 in public. But it was like, Wow, that's that's what it takes 911 01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:19.440 for you to basically say to hell with somebody who's supposed to be your friend. 912 01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:26.079 That right there, And by the way, she tried to apologize to 913 01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:29.320 him and whatnot, and he just kept making snide remarks about how I'm a 914 01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.159 failure and go ahead and sell some more hats and take another poll about how 915 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:34.960 you're gonna you know, which is fine, dude. I'm a failure, 916 01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:41.400 I'm a pos whatever, I'm garbage, I'm a walking piece of filth. 917 01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:46.519 Lovely, lovely. I am so happy to note that that's exactly what you 918 01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:51.320 thought of me, that you took pity upon me, that I needed friendship 919 01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:56.719 from you, as fake as it was, apparently, because the whole time 920 01:06:57.480 --> 01:07:00.719 I was clearly just such a terrible person who did so many any terrible things 921 01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:05.039 to you. Now I'd love to know what they are. I think you'd 922 01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:10.840 have to imagine them. But outside of just you know, putting this out 923 01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:14.360 straight for what it is instead of just you know, bitching on Twitter. 924 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:18.480 Yeah, I think I think this is better. I know you've had conversations 925 01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:21.800 with people, is what it is. And by the way, I love 926 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:26.360 the the Not only did missus othrow kerosene on the fire, but also during 927 01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:30.039 the break when she was bitching offline, there were some people on the line 928 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.519 that could hear that, and somebody found it necessary to immediately text him, 929 01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:40.320 she's pitching about you offline. Man. Okay, I now know who to 930 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:47.199 watch carefully what you say things around which which which I reveal to myself by 931 01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:50.639 picking up on some clues here. Somebody made sure to message it okay, 932 01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:55.719 great, cool, But meanwhile, did they tell him what I was saying, 933 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:57.639 which is, let's not do this in public? Huh? Will you 934 01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:00.760 stop? You know? And clearly I couldn't get her to stop, but 935 01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:02.679 that's the only reason why I talked to her during the break try and get 936 01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:06.440 her to stop. So two pieces of extra fuel thrown on that fire. 937 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:11.719 There a fire that I don't even feel like I started. But it's you 938 01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:14.960 know, because it's unreasonable to ask you fifty three minutes and nineteen clips is 939 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:18.000 too much to put onto a one hour buck as because I'm an idiot. 940 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:21.960 And by the way, I wouldn't be doing a job as a producer. 941 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:25.159 But then again, I'm a piece of garbage. How could I be a 942 01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.960 producer. All Right, Look, it's a whole quandary, I know, 943 01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:31.840 and I hope this is entertaining, and if not, I got a better 944 01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:36.520 entertaining story to throw in here. I think it is worthy of explanation. 945 01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:43.199 And here's where I need a question answered from UVP, because you are more 946 01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:48.159 familiar with the way people talk in different parts of this country than I am, 947 01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:53.319 and so are some others. So it could be that I think certain 948 01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:56.920 things are relegated only to the Tri state area or to New Jersey. And 949 01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:59.960 maybe I'm wrong about that. So I mean, because I've heard the same 950 01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:05.479 in the vagina thing on South Park, I've heard it elsewhere in popular culture, 951 01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:11.439 so maybe it's a phrase that is common. And I just thought it 952 01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:13.560 was a Jersey thing. And I'm gonna explain why I thought it was a 953 01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:16.640 Jersey thing in a minute. But Pepe help me out here. Is sand 954 01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:20.359 in the vagina a common thing to say to a guy around the country or 955 01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:24.840 is it like only regional Like that whole thing I brought up with you before 956 01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:28.520 about being in the South and a woman calling you shug, that's a Southern 957 01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:32.880 thing. That's a Southeastern thing, for sure. I know that but is 958 01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:36.760 sand in the vagina one of these like sort of slap insults at somebody where 959 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:40.800 you're telling them they're they're, they're, they're, they're acting like a little 960 01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:45.520 bitch. Basically. Is that something that happens all over the country. Oh? 961 01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:46.840 Absolutely, I mean, but you know, you might hear it in 962 01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:49.279 the form of, you know, he got sand in his crack, or 963 01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:54.119 you know, go change your tampon, you know, all kinds of stuff 964 01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:56.600 like that. So stuff. Yeah, I mean, okay, that's that's 965 01:09:56.680 --> 01:10:00.479 what guys do. So similar phraseology that then change is their biology to say 966 01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:03.439 that they have a vaginant at first of all, but then also it's probably 967 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:08.359 irritated, which put him in a bad mood. This kind of thing is 968 01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:14.720 sort of common place, right, Yes, yes, it is very commonplace. 969 01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:17.279 I mean actually even simple stuff like hey, throw me that hammer, 970 01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:20.479 you know, and they throw it weirdly, you know, nice throw alice. 971 01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:25.319 It's it's common. It's been around as long as I've been around. 972 01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:27.640 I've been around a while. Yeah. It's almost like you know, you 973 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.640 look at somebody's shoes and you go, hey, those are great shoes. 974 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:34.079 They got a men's department where you bought those are what like that? Really? 975 01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:38.199 Okay, No, just checking all right, So I'm just checking for 976 01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:42.319 the vernacular, the normenclature here because to me, and I talked about this 977 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:47.279 with missus Oh who you know did apologize to him online and also tried to 978 01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:51.680 apologize to me. But I'm sorry to laugh, but I mean it was 979 01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:55.760 like, okay, you just threw fuel on it. But clearly he had 980 01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:59.239 some he had some squabbles, He had some issues with me previous to that, 981 01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:02.479 and he told me about other people that have issues with me, other 982 01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:06.319 people that really can't stand me and you know, and think terribly of me 983 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:10.079 that he's got to defend me to all the time. So I get it, 984 01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:13.520 and I appreciate that actually, and I want to say publicly, personally 985 01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:18.720 directly, thank you Chris for revealing to me certain people that are just talking 986 01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:23.119 trash to me, even though they smile to me and try to act as 987 01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:26.760 though they are friendly with me or you know, on my side, on 988 01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:32.000 my behalf with things, when they just you know, clearly have negativity for 989 01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:35.000 me, like you were holding on too. I appreciate you doing that, 990 01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:40.640 I really do. He told me about you know, occult priestess doesn't feel 991 01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:44.039 as though I was communicating with her. That's really her issue for why she's 992 01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:47.560 not coming on, and that's cool. That is her prerogative. I'm good 993 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.199 with it, no grudge with her at all. But apparently she told him 994 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:55.920 before she told me that she wasn't going to come on the network. That's 995 01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.520 no problem at all. But you revealed a couple other interesting things in your 996 01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:03.039 text. I appreciate those things, and I appreciate your revealing your negativity towards 997 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:05.800 me that apparently you're holding on too for a bit. It's all good, 998 01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:10.319 And I still stand by the fact that I think Bob Wilson wronged you, 999 01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.880 you know, when he turned around and called authorities on you and had you 1000 01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:17.760 know, cops come and pick you up. He should have never gotten involved 1001 01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:20.239 in your life. I still stand by that, even though you hate my 1002 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:23.880 guts, because you know what what's right is right, what's wrong is wrong. 1003 01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:26.760 I don't think that should have been done to you. I think that 1004 01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.079 was way out of line. Matter of fact, little trivia question, you 1005 01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:34.840 know, the backwards masking thing you hear get mad with Chris Graves the intro 1006 01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:41.439 that we used to play that little backwards masking that's my voice saying Bob Wilson 1007 01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:45.920 is the devil, which is meant to be a double edged joe about Bob 1008 01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:49.800 Wilson. Anyway, this was the spirit in which I thought we were producing. 1009 01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:53.760 Get Mad. But apparently I had been a bad guy all along, 1010 01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:56.560 and I'm not sure why. Still, but let me clear up the whole 1011 01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:00.600 thing about the sand and the vagina. See growing up on the Jersey Shore 1012 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:02.800 at some point or other. I mean, if you have a sexual activity 1013 01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:08.600 in your teenage years, and you know you're banging teenage girls, or you're 1014 01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:14.960 banging slightly older girls that maybe you know are married and therefore are not going 1015 01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:16.880 to take you back home because their husband's there. You know, if you're 1016 01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:20.800 on the Jersey Shore, you might at some point end up. You know 1017 01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:27.760 the old song under the Boardwalk, Under the boardwalk. Yeah, I'm not 1018 01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:30.359 going to sing that well now at all, because my vocal cords are scrapped. 1019 01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:32.800 And you know what, I probably always sucked as a singer anyhow. 1020 01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:38.439 Anyways, I suck at everything. That's fine, But let me finish the 1021 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:42.199 story. You know, you go under the boardwalk sometimes you get a little 1022 01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:44.760 privacy. I mean, you're out of the sun, you got some shade, 1023 01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:48.359 and you're not always being easily seen, especially in the evening, you 1024 01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:51.800 can hide a bit. And if you don't have a place to take a 1025 01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:55.840 woman and you're a teenager, you know, I mean, I started having 1026 01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:58.720 sex at fifteen. I was a little bit of a late bloomer, and 1027 01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:03.640 you know, and all that. But commonly when a person of any sort, 1028 01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:08.039 guy or girl is having sex and they're in those teen years where maybe 1029 01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:11.079 you can't bring him to the same house where your parents are, or you 1030 01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:14.800 know, you're sleeping with a young adult woman who can't bring it to the 1031 01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:18.239 new husband's house, but she wants to bag you stuff like that. You 1032 01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:21.479 don't have a car, so you can't get to a hotel, you don't 1033 01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:27.000 have the money for the hotel under the boardwalk can work out at the Jersey 1034 01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.199 Shore for you, but there's problems. See even if you bring a blanket 1035 01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:39.199 and things get damp. Issues happen like that. While you're engaged in what 1036 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:45.159 you're engaged, and especially if you're okay at it and you know you've got 1037 01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:47.560 an excitable lady, you might find a bit of moisture. And here's the 1038 01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:53.520 problem with moisture and sand. It makes sand stick, It makes sand get 1039 01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:57.279 all over the place. Now, if you're a guy, it's not that 1040 01:14:57.439 --> 01:14:59.560 hard to deal with. I mean, you just gotta go to one of 1041 01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:01.800 those pub the restrooms and find yourself a sink and you can wrench yourself off 1042 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:08.279 easy because it's just skin that you gotta get this off of. I mean, 1043 01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:13.119 you might end up with a little bit of it stuck here or there 1044 01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.359 or whatever, because you both should be getting damp, either through sweat or 1045 01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:20.399 other things during the occasions under the boardwalk and all that. And again, 1046 01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:26.039 excitable teenage guy like myself, I mean, I've lived this experience, and 1047 01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:29.000 I'm quite sure anybody who's lived near the shore and grew up there as a 1048 01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:32.960 teenager and was at least somehow sexually active, you might have experienced this. 1049 01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:35.720 And even if you didn't get all the way through it and you had a 1050 01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:41.800 blanket or whatever else, sand is an issue. So here's the problem. 1051 01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:46.000 It doesn't as easily go away for the lady. You can't always get a 1052 01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:50.560 good enough shower, and you might end up with it in inconvenient places on 1053 01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:57.279 a lady. Now that lady couldn't have gone to a convenient place to get 1054 01:15:57.319 --> 01:16:00.199 a shower right away, and maybe she wanted to spend the rest of the 1055 01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:03.119 day, night, couple days with you. But she's got a little problem 1056 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:06.319 now until we can get back to a place where she can take a good 1057 01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:13.920 shower or bath or something, get hose and some privacy, she might be 1058 01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:17.000 stuck with it. Now this affects her mood, it does in a direct 1059 01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:20.159 way. And then you know what, they're a little easier to aggravate. 1060 01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:24.239 They're kind of in a bad mood, even if they're really wanting to hang 1061 01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:27.600 out with you and they're happy to be doing You wind up going to other 1062 01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:30.000 spots on the boardwalk, you wind up going out to eat all these things. 1063 01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:33.840 You're still in your beach clothes. But you can ignore the fact that 1064 01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:40.359 it has shifted her mood, that she has sand stuck in some places you 1065 01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:45.520 don't really want sand. So anyway, to me, this was a Jersey 1066 01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:49.640 thing, common terminology, and as a matter of fact, it's something that 1067 01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:53.960 you don't even say to a woman. You usually say it to a guy 1068 01:16:54.039 --> 01:17:00.239 because the first thing, of course, is to establish the feminizing the guy. 1069 01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:03.800 It's very classical stuff, not PC today at all. But but first 1070 01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:06.439 of all, you know, you feminize them or you neuter them in a 1071 01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:12.239 way verbally, and on top of it you add something else. So typically 1072 01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:14.600 these are teenage girls, by the way, that get stuck with the sand 1073 01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:16.199 problem, because you know, most grown women can get a spot to go 1074 01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:20.800 somewhere a lot quicker. So it's usually a teenage girl. And a teenage 1075 01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:27.600 girl is usually well a little more moody than the average person. And that's 1076 01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:31.359 usually what you're describing them as. That's usually what's going on there. Now, 1077 01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:34.680 this is a generalized story, and I'm telling you to explain the comment 1078 01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:42.640 fully. That's actually what it is. And they're easier to upset, they 1079 01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:45.760 get angry a lot faster. It's just the way it is. So an 1080 01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:53.159 off hand remark. That's really an old, stale, just commentary that you 1081 01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:57.199 throw at somebody. I mean, like I said, to be Pete, 1082 01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:00.680 I think I said it off air. But you know, the the concept 1083 01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:04.119 of when a clearly female person tells you basically, hey, you know, 1084 01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:11.039 let's use proper terminology. It tells you that, you know, fallacio do 1085 01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:15.840 that to me. Well, they're not equipped for it. One and two, 1086 01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:17.920 it's just kind of funny with that gender swapping thing. I know people 1087 01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:23.079 are very excited and angry about gender swapping, but in the vernacular of a 1088 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:30.560 comedic response to somebody saying something like that, it's just a joke. Really, 1089 01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:41.640 it's it's it's it's a slightly hyperbolized comedic mechanism to switch the gender to 1090 01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:47.000 therefore feminize or verbally mute neuter the other person. And I realize some people 1091 01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:50.439 get more upset about things than others, but that seemed to be the thing 1092 01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:54.560 that got him the most meant out of shape. I mean, outside of 1093 01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:57.399 the other stuff that he was harboring against me that I didn't know about until 1094 01:18:57.399 --> 01:19:00.319 he revealed it to me, which, you know what, I don't know 1095 01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:05.520 what it was I did. I really don't. I still got his clips 1096 01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.680 together, which by the way, he didn't even use all of them on 1097 01:19:08.840 --> 01:19:13.600 his less than an hour because he just had me playing clips together and just 1098 01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:16.880 sort of gave up. It's as screw, it doesn't matter for a back 1099 01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:24.720 to the future retrospective basically, which again I think I should have at least 1100 01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:28.239 watched a couple of them on YouTube or something, because it could have been 1101 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:31.000 scripted better. Didn't need his nineteen minutes a clip. I mean not nineteen 1102 01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:36.159 nineteen minutes would have been acceptable. Nineteen clips at fifty three plus minutes a 1103 01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:42.279 little too much for one two you know, slightly over one hour podcast. 1104 01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:46.600 I'm thinking, So, I don't know, this makes me a bad guy. 1105 01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:49.720 But now I've laid it all out. So what continued to happen after 1106 01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:55.239 that? Well, now I'm an awful person. I deserve every bad thing 1107 01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:59.199 that happens to me. And of course he listed people that hate my guts 1108 01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:02.319 that he knows and you know, and just he was defending me to them 1109 01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:06.920 and how awful I am, and how he's gotten me big supporters. My 1110 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:13.920 big supporters have all come from Chris, according to Chris. Okay, if 1111 01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.479 that's the case, then nah, I'm definitely a dead man now because support 1112 01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:20.439 has gone down. And then he started taking in things that he thought were 1113 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:23.720 being said about him that weren't. When I was talking about the lack of 1114 01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:26.840 professionalism and things like that, it had nothing to do with him. I 1115 01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:30.720 was talking about something else on the show. Now I have focused on exactly 1116 01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:36.159 what happened, and I've told the story, and I fired back some comments 1117 01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:41.399 at him as well, most of them saying I tried to do my job, 1118 01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:46.079 and I don't understand this tirade, and I don't control missus. Oh 1119 01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:55.439 but you know, say hello to the bad guy always over here. And 1120 01:20:55.560 --> 01:21:00.760 it's fine. I get it for people that there were two people that should 1121 01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:04.399 have gotten get mad Hats. One person got it already and one person. 1122 01:21:05.239 --> 01:21:08.920 I looked back and realized that I was supposed to wait for a week when 1123 01:21:08.920 --> 01:21:11.560 you were going to be home. You know who you are, and you're 1124 01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:14.600 supposed to get to get mad Hat. You'll still get it, but I'm 1125 01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:18.279 not going to offer those anymore. And the hell with the hats. I'll 1126 01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:24.000 just take this stuff to Dallas with me and you know, do what I 1127 01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:26.600 can do with it. But to get mad Hat, I don't have a 1128 01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:28.600 right to offer it, just like I don't have a right to offer your 1129 01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:31.680 podcast. No more. So I don't. That's the way I see it. 1130 01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:39.479 And unfortunately, the saddest part to me is that I actually thought that 1131 01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:41.960 you and I were sort of friends. But I keep making that mistake. 1132 01:21:43.479 --> 01:21:47.560 And I appreciate that you told me off the way you did, really I 1133 01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:54.199 do. And I appreciate the fact that you told me about others that have 1134 01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:58.640 no intention of doing anything other than talking trash about me. And I don't 1135 01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:01.359 know what they're looking to get at me because I'm so worthless, but whatever 1136 01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:03.920 it is, they're still trying to be, you know, nice to my 1137 01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:06.800 face. I mean, you gave me an idea about people being two face 1138 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:12.600 to me, and I appreciate that. I really do. So I want 1139 01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:15.399 to thank you for it, Chris. I want to thank you for that. 1140 01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:17.079 I want to thank you for some of the good stuff you did over 1141 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:21.640 here. I want to thank you for the support you led, whether it 1142 01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:26.000 was actually genuine or not. Hey, how can I judge, I'm not 1143 01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:31.439 in your head, but I do now know that you genuinely had some nastiness 1144 01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:35.920 of your harboring toward me. So I want to thank you for clearing all 1145 01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:41.439 that up and telling me who some of my friends aren't and telling me that 1146 01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:45.199 I should be more careful about the people that I do share things with, 1147 01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:47.840 Like you know what, I was feeling bad about the way things are turning 1148 01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:49.920 on me, and I said things about you know, I guess I'm kind 1149 01:22:49.960 --> 01:22:54.279 of toxic. People just treat me like crap, and there wasn't something I 1150 01:22:54.359 --> 01:22:58.039 really wanted to say to the whole world. But you know what, why 1151 01:22:58.119 --> 01:23:03.000 not? Maybe it's right, Maybe it is. Maybe I just can't see 1152 01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:04.960 the world the same way you'd do. As a matter of fact, I 1153 01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:08.319 know that because I'm blind to hell, no blind jokes in there. But 1154 01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:15.239 everything else cool. Tear me down any which way or whatever else. But 1155 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:19.159 if you can name what I did wrong to you, really, i'd love 1156 01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:24.800 to see that. But I doubt I'm gonna because we went into blocking me 1157 01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:28.720 and I'm gonna get rid of the sand guy and what else. Well, 1158 01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:30.640 just you know, excuse me for this, but he started calling me fucky. 1159 01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:32.720 I think it was meant to be like a thing like he's calling me 1160 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:39.439 chucky. Whatever else, I'm a terrible person. Why don't I take another 1161 01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:42.680 poll about how Yeah, I'm sorry, I asked the audience if I should 1162 01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:45.159 bother to continue this. You're right, and I've got enough negativity, enough 1163 01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:51.600 problems without my so called friends turning on me. But again, I gotta 1164 01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:56.199 give credit where credits due. You'll let me know where I really stood, 1165 01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:59.319 and you'll let me know where a whole lot of other people really stood. 1166 01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:01.760 So now, when I've got other things to do, I know who I 1167 01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:05.920 should not bother to involve in things I know who I should not trust, 1168 01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:14.039 and even the friendly situations I have, they're contentious with people. I now 1169 01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:20.800 know about some of the two faced nature of it, and I appreciate that 1170 01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:25.159 because some things were not making sense to me about how certain things were happening, 1171 01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:28.600 and some people were, you know, being cool about things, but 1172 01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:31.119 then I would find that they weren't entirely cool, and some people would say 1173 01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:33.760 things to me like, ah, well, you know, I don't really 1174 01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:36.960 want to get into that or I don't want to talk about it, and 1175 01:24:38.119 --> 01:24:41.399 clearly signaling to me that something happened, because otherwise I'd be like, whoa 1176 01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:47.520 what, no problem at all, and it's cool, very cool. Sorry 1177 01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:51.720 that I asked if nineteen clips at fifty three minutes is too much, I'm 1178 01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:56.279 sorry they'd be pete hurt your feelings. I'm sorry missus, oh said you 1179 01:24:56.359 --> 01:25:03.840 had sand in your vagina and that was worthy of destroying the situation. Any 1180 01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:06.880 sort of friendly we had, and we sure we were on a personal level. 1181 01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:14.319 I thought my mistake. I apologize for that. I thought that you 1182 01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:19.439 and I understood each other about some things, but we don't cool. Appreciate 1183 01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:23.720 the honesty I wish you had done it a little sooner, but I appreciate 1184 01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:30.960 the honesty and you know what wish you will. That's it. So I'm 1185 01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:34.000 done talking about it as far as I'm concerned. I mean, I'm sure 1186 01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:36.720 I'm going to get more crap about this now because I just spent God how 1187 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:40.960 much time did I just spend on that? Probably thirty minutes. PP. 1188 01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:45.479 I apologize. I apologize for anything I've done to you, because you know 1189 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:47.560 what, You've been around me for years and years, and we've had our 1190 01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:50.720 little arguments and so far. I mean, listen, if you think I'm 1191 01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:56.920 just to complete, you know, piece of feces and I'm not worth the 1192 01:25:57.039 --> 01:26:00.479 damn thing and whatever else. If you think that about me, Pete, 1193 01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:04.159 I heard you lay it out. Let's go, let's go, let's do 1194 01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:06.560 it now. But you know, the funny thing is, if Bpete had 1195 01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:11.039 a problem with me, I would already heard it. He would already came 1196 01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:13.920 straight at me and giving me a problem about what it is I did wrong, 1197 01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:17.399 and then we'd have to deal with it, and he wouldn't blow up 1198 01:26:17.439 --> 01:26:23.399 at me on air necessarily all the way, Although you do have a little 1199 01:26:23.439 --> 01:26:29.560 trouble restraining yourself sometimes. Yeah, I have my moments. Yeah you do. 1200 01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:33.520 You know you don't want a name call, but I hear your name 1201 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:36.319 call me. You know, you don't want to yell at people, but 1202 01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:39.840 you don't want to be yelled at. You don't want to. It's funny 1203 01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:43.479 listening to you mix it up with Glenn, and even go back to when 1204 01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:45.359 you and I mixed it up a few times. It's funny stuff. I 1205 01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:49.159 just bake cheap shots, you know me. The only the only complaint I've 1206 01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:53.960 really had against anybody is just cheap shots. Don't take cheap shots on the 1207 01:26:54.039 --> 01:26:57.479 air. We've got an opportunity to discuss it, discuss it. But the 1208 01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:01.239 cheap shots, I mean, anybody can do that. I mean, if 1209 01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:04.119 it's just it's gonna fall in, If it's just gonna you know, degrade 1210 01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:10.359 into cheap shots, well hell let's have at it. But yeah, sometimes 1211 01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:14.960 I call people idiots, but sometimes people are idiots exactly. Hey, look, 1212 01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:16.680 you know we do have phone calls, and I guess that means I 1213 01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:20.039 should definitely shut up and figure out what order they came in, uh, 1214 01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:23.000 and see if we can get everybody on the air. What do you say 1215 01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:26.479 to that? Be Pete. Are you cool with it? Sounds good to 1216 01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:28.840 me, all right, But listen, I just want to say something though, 1217 01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:31.640 if at some point in time you decide I'm a piece of garbage and 1218 01:27:32.199 --> 01:27:35.560 you know, and I'm worthy of just getting torn down and tell me a 1219 01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:41.880 favor and just be yourself, which is tell me and we'll just we'll just 1220 01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:44.159 hash that out and I'll say, well, you know what, I might 1221 01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:47.520 agree with you about how much a piece of garbage I am or fecal matter 1222 01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:50.199 or whatever, and uh, okay, fair enough, and have a good 1223 01:27:50.279 --> 01:27:56.159 life, my friend. You know, you know, as we've been doing 1224 01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:59.359 this, as long as we've been doing this, we've only had a couple 1225 01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:02.640 of instances where we didn't see eye to eye, and I mean those pretty 1226 01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:08.399 much got settled then. Other than that, you know, my issues with 1227 01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:12.640 a couple of people that have been on here has simply been you know, 1228 01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:15.399 give me a chance to finish what I'm saying before you start jumping in. 1229 01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:20.600 Otherwise there's no point in continuing this thing. Glenn. You know, the 1230 01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:26.039 thing with Glenn that was that was the worst chief shot I've had anybody pull. 1231 01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:30.920 And that still kisses me off. But Glenn is Glenn, he's going 1232 01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:32.319 to live with his side. You know, it's his story. Let him 1233 01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:36.079 tell it his way. I've got my story. What's done is done. 1234 01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:40.680 But other than that, you know, that's the one thing I like about 1235 01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:44.279 us being able to converse. I mean, if we've got an issue, 1236 01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:46.720 it comes right straight up. There's no beat around a bush. So I 1237 01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:50.760 mean, there's no nothing hidden between me and you. If we haven't already 1238 01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:54.920 said it, then they probably won't get said. Now. That's not to 1239 01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:58.600 say in the future we might have an issue, but we'll handle it same 1240 01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:00.119 way we've handled it all along. We just sit there, talk about, 1241 01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:03.119 settle it and move on. And here's the funny thing. A few things. 1242 01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:05.760 I know you and I each agree that we have a stupid point of 1243 01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:11.600 view on it, you know, like, you know, I'm very certain 1244 01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:13.800 there's a couple of things where I go, God, you know that is 1245 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:16.479 just dumb, and you do the same thing. But generally speaking, you 1246 01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:24.039 know, we don't insult each other over it right away, and it gets 1247 01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:27.760 vented, it gets handled. But you know, well, but we also 1248 01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:31.000 we want to also very careful in stating, Yeah, I think the idea 1249 01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:35.039 is dumb. I don't think you're dumb. Now if i've you know, 1250 01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:38.439 if I thought you were dumb, i'd have called you an idiot before. 1251 01:29:38.479 --> 01:29:42.439 Now, yeah, but I think that happened so well. No, I 1252 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.399 think us issue. To my memory, each of us has slipped an actually 1253 01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:49.119 name called once or twice on each other. And but here's the thing, 1254 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:51.920 I don't think it's I don't think it's seriously. See, that's the thing 1255 01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:56.039 is, if you're actually somebody's friend, you have a little argument and you 1256 01:29:56.239 --> 01:29:59.560 settle it and I don't know, maybe again it's me and my mentality, 1257 01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:01.159 but you usually get over it and then you move on. You know, 1258 01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:05.159 that's that's usually the idea. But anyway, let's try and get to the 1259 01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:09.960 callers, and I'll take extra time on the air tonight. Even if Ppete 1260 01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:13.479 doesn't want to hang cool, I'll do it. I'll do it solo. 1261 01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:16.520 Okay, So I'll take an extra segment tonight and go a little long because 1262 01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:20.800 I want to get to everybody who's on the phone and let them say whatever 1263 01:30:20.840 --> 01:30:23.760 it is they want to say. Again, we're gonna go with the five 1264 01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:28.319 minute role mostly uh, And I'm tired of talking. So I hope you're 1265 01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:32.439 not calling to ask me questions. But if you must, I'll do my 1266 01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:35.960 best to answer them, or let ppe to answer them or whatever. But 1267 01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:39.600 you just want to make a statement, we'll go for it. But what's 1268 01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:44.680 up? Take a guy. I'll answer it. I'll answer anything. What 1269 01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:46.159 the hell, what the hell? You know, we're gonna have We're gonna 1270 01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:49.000 have a lot of fun in Dallas. That's the way I see it. 1271 01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:54.119 Okay, I might not have enough money to do much, but what the 1272 01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:56.600 hell, man, we're gonna We're gonna do this up as best we can. 1273 01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:00.600 We're gonna we're gonna get mileage out of the mileage. Okay, and 1274 01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:04.279 hopefully anybody that comes and hangs with us or whatever film stuff and takes pictures, 1275 01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:09.199 because I want to integrate it into a big video piece and just put 1276 01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:11.960 it out there and show people what the trip was like and all that all 1277 01:31:11.960 --> 01:31:16.079 the way along. But I got an idea about what to uh, what 1278 01:31:16.439 --> 01:31:20.479 to do with some of the get mad hats, you know, because I 1279 01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:24.800 have I have a bunch still left, and uh, you know, I 1280 01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:27.800 only got a handful of each thing to start with, but I had two 1281 01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:30.680 requests for that, so I've got a few left. I think I think 1282 01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:33.079 I might have sent him one. I'll wait for him to calm down enough. 1283 01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:35.600 I can ask him that question, and i'll find out if I actually 1284 01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:39.920 sent him a hat, because I think I did. But anyway, none 1285 01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:42.279 of this is relevant. Let's get to the callers. They've been waiting long 1286 01:31:42.439 --> 01:31:45.199 enough. Let's see one of them says, they've been waiting thirty eight minutes 1287 01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:47.079 and again, I'm gonna go over time tonight, be Pete, you're gonna 1288 01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:50.520 be able to stay over time? Or no? Oh yeah, I got 1289 01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:53.720 next three days off. We can go all night if you want to. 1290 01:31:53.960 --> 01:31:55.800 All right, well, I ain't doing this all night, that's for damn 1291 01:31:55.880 --> 01:31:58.279 sure. But I mean I'm hungry. I gotta go eat something a little 1292 01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:01.359 while. But we're gonna give everybody enough time, whoever calls in, whoever 1293 01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:05.319 is already waiting on the line to get their peace in but five minutes at 1294 01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:08.920 a time, and then you get to return. That's the new rules. 1295 01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:12.319 Okay, So both of us, remember, Be Pete, we both got 1296 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:15.560 to try and shut up and restrain ourselves during their five minutes as much as 1297 01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:17.640 we can, okay, because I don't want to try to have to keep 1298 01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:20.720 recounting and figuring it out and all that. Give them their five minutes. 1299 01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:25.039 At least they go on hold and they can wait, maybe get back on 1300 01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:29.479 again. Fair enough, Yes, dear, oh dear, yes, dear, 1301 01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:35.760 all right, should call back from earlier. Okay, So let's get 1302 01:32:35.800 --> 01:32:39.960 to the guy who wasn't involved in any of this at any point as far 1303 01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:44.760 as I know, Jimmy James, you're live on the show man. How 1304 01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:49.800 you doing. I'm doing pretty good. No, I couldn't have been involved. 1305 01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:55.319 There wasn't even on the show last week. That's right. I absolutely 1306 01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:58.399 stand by your statement, Jimmy James, and your time has not begin yet 1307 01:32:58.880 --> 01:33:01.640 because you were involved in this in any way and actually emailed me to say 1308 01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:05.840 what the hell just happened? Uh? Yeah, you're you're You're the one 1309 01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:09.880 guy who emailed wait, I got a question. I got a question, 1310 01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:12.159 just a quick one. I don't want to take up his time. So 1311 01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:14.680 all this against him, wells, you weren't here, Jimmy James, Where 1312 01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:17.960 in the hell were you? I was in the chat room. I was 1313 01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:23.880 here, just not on Oh I got you? Oh yeah, And it 1314 01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:28.159 would be it would be accurate to say that he asked missus oh, or 1315 01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:31.479 he asked the room generally what happened with Chris, and that's what led to 1316 01:33:33.960 --> 01:33:41.039 stanton the vagina. I can't believe. I gotta keep repeating that. Anyway, 1317 01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:45.319 that's what led to that response and that in that way, I guess 1318 01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:47.800 Jimmy James was involved, but he didn't do nothing. He didn't throw no 1319 01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:51.279 kerosene on the he wasn't even on the on the line during the break, 1320 01:33:51.359 --> 01:33:57.520 so he did not instigate any of this. Jimmy James caused no problem. 1321 01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:01.840 I want that stated for the record up, So JJ, the floor is 1322 01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:12.239 yours. That's right. I'm not the instigator. For the record, I 1323 01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:17.119 wasn't the guy to talk to Chuck the red three JFK books that said I 1324 01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:21.359 read them all either, oh no, no, absolutely true, absolutely trump 1325 01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:29.359 gun. I read the equivalent on that Friday in a couple of days. 1326 01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:35.079 But anyways, uh, I don't really know what I'm talking about that. 1327 01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:39.760 Well, do you want to do you want to bring up something else? 1328 01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:46.880 Well, just to real quick on the whole Chris Graves thing, there is 1329 01:34:47.119 --> 01:34:53.600 something about people our age and older were I don't know, me and my 1330 01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:58.199 best friends all call each other fastors and things that was such I don't know, 1331 01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:03.079 maybe it common and our age group and that and other age groups. 1332 01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:08.680 I really don't know, or maybe like you said it, but I don't 1333 01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:12.880 want to harp on that. What'd you think about that Nancy Peri and Rich 1334 01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:17.439 stuff that? I? Oh, yeah, that one thing. Okay, 1335 01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:21.119 so stopping you at one minute so I can answer. Here's the thing. 1336 01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:26.319 The Nancy per and Rich stuff is very interesting. I was a little confused 1337 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:30.319 at first because you'd indicated something a little different there in the chat, so 1338 01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:39.479 I wasn't sure she's interesting, but I'm not. I'm sure that she is 1339 01:35:39.520 --> 01:35:44.680 a credible witness to a certain degree. But to my memory, there's a 1340 01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:48.079 couple of things in her statements that nobody else saw, and there should have 1341 01:35:48.119 --> 01:35:54.039 been a couple of other people that could have confirmed it. So it's a 1342 01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:58.159 little it's a little nebulous to me. I think it's worthy of examination though, 1343 01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:00.439 and uh, and we should get into it a little more. But 1344 01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:04.319 I mean, it's funny to me that you made an overall great statement there, 1345 01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:11.159 which is that there are legitimate witnesses available that some people barely pay attention 1346 01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:15.039 to, don't know their names at all, and yet these you know, 1347 01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:17.479 many different ones. I'm not naming any right now, because there's many I 1348 01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:23.399 could name who claim to be witnesses the things who I am not convinced we're 1349 01:36:23.479 --> 01:36:29.159 even you know, within one hundred miles of the situation at the time, 1350 01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:33.520 who have gotten lots of attention. And I think it's because they've made convenient 1351 01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:39.319 statements that fit with people's prescribed ideas. Okay, you know, like, 1352 01:36:39.479 --> 01:36:43.640 for instance, the people that put Jack Ruby in weird places that don't match 1353 01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:48.600 up with somebody's theory. You know, not because they can't confirm it, 1354 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:54.800 not because we might not be dealing with somebody who mistakes somebody for somebody else, 1355 01:36:55.239 --> 01:36:58.119 but because you know, they just doesn't fit with their theory. Even 1356 01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:01.279 though five people said it that they saw exactly the same thing, somebody will 1357 01:37:01.279 --> 01:37:03.279 still go, yeah, but that doesn't work with this. You know, 1358 01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:11.079 a lot of people that are looking at conspiratorial situations, they have the solution 1359 01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:15.680 in their mind and then they try and backfill it with evidence. And the 1360 01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:21.560 ultimate flaw, the indicative flaw of that sort of process, is that you 1361 01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:28.399 don't actually study the evidence to get to something. You're just trying to support 1362 01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:32.039 your thesis. And you know, It's kind of like the negativity of the 1363 01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:36.760 academic world. Don't just begin with the thesis statement, begin with an idea 1364 01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:42.640 direction, sure, but then allow the information to lead you where you need 1365 01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:45.359 to go. That I think is the ultimate flaw there, and that's why 1366 01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:50.520 a lot of truly legitimate witnesses are ultimately ignored by many people who seem to 1367 01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:55.000 be studying the case quite well. And I'm not saying Nancy pern Rich is 1368 01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:58.960 a you know, an absolute like smoking gun witness all the way around, 1369 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:02.600 but she had some interesting things to say that could be relevant at least to 1370 01:38:02.640 --> 01:38:09.920 the Jack Ruby think for sure, right, I mean, she's undeniably was 1371 01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:14.800 his bartenders right there. She should have. Oh, I'm saying, I 1372 01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:16.760 guess I'll have to do it. I'll have to write her up like a 1373 01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:23.479 Wicki type page and hopefully Spartaciss or someone will post it, because right now 1374 01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:28.600 she doesn't get anything in her own name, and she really deserves, if 1375 01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:31.720 nothing else, her own page with what she said. A lot of the 1376 01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:40.039 old books talked about her, and Mark Lane talked about her, but after 1377 01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:43.399 that she kind of got lost in the shuffle. I think, yeah, 1378 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:46.520 yeah, I mean, I can't I don't even know what happened to her 1379 01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:53.239 after the sixties, anyone know? Frankly, No, at some point I 1380 01:38:53.319 --> 01:38:59.039 think she moved to Ohio or one of those states in that area. That's 1381 01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:00.720 all I recall. All. I mean, you know, look, somebody 1382 01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:03.880 else could correct me on that. I'm not saying that's definitive, but I 1383 01:39:03.960 --> 01:39:08.880 remember she moved out of the area for sure at a certain point, so 1384 01:39:09.079 --> 01:39:12.439 she wasn't like a lifelong resident of the area altogether. She could have moved 1385 01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:15.880 back for all I know, because again sort of drifted away from me too, 1386 01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:18.960 you know, oh, you know, you know where she went, 1387 01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:24.680 Chuck. I'm thinking because of her accent, and I'm remembering in rush to 1388 01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:30.359 judgment, she right after the assassination, she booked it back to Massachusetts. 1389 01:39:31.079 --> 01:39:35.119 I think she had a pretty heavy kind of a New England accent, like 1390 01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:41.760 an upper class Bostonian accent. That would make sense, you remember, I 1391 01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:45.960 don't know if you remember that. The accent was definitely like northeastern waspy. 1392 01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:51.079 I'm not sure if it was Bostonian or you know, Massachusetts exactly, but 1393 01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:56.199 definitely, if you told me that's where she was from, I wouldn't argue 1394 01:39:56.239 --> 01:39:59.800 with you too much, because she definitely had that sort of upper class zone, 1395 01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:04.079 you know, very much like that that doctor that was on CNN for 1396 01:40:04.119 --> 01:40:08.079 a bit. They used to crack me up when she came on, Uh 1397 01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:15.479 you know much so the typical Asian that could speak better Caucasian than a Caucasian 1398 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.079 like I'm King of the Hill. Oh yeah, no, she sounds can 1399 01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:27.520 Yeah, she must curious. He didn't even call karaoke. Karaoke a crazy 1400 01:40:27.680 --> 01:40:31.039 name for it. Yeah, exactly what was that guy? Uh? Uh? 1401 01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:39.680 Ted was sanasan right said, oh excuse me, con and he was 1402 01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:45.359 eyes like. The way he would speak was like more Caucasian than Caucasian. 1403 01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:49.600 If if that makes sense, Yeah, no it does, it exactly does 1404 01:40:50.039 --> 01:40:53.479 so, Jimmy. With all that in mind, yeah, I would say 1405 01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:57.000 that the Nancy parn Rich thing is is definitely worthy of examination. I know 1406 01:40:57.119 --> 01:41:00.439 she was in a lot of old books, and I'm talking the books they 1407 01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:04.600 published in the seventies and early eighties, but say around the twenty fifth anniversary, 1408 01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:09.600 outside of you know, Mark Lane clips and things, I don't think 1409 01:41:09.640 --> 01:41:14.600 she was ever really mentioned again. And you know again, but also she's 1410 01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:18.520 tied to Jack the Jack Ruby situation, which is problematic for a lot of 1411 01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:20.439 people. A lot of people, you know, they know this and that 1412 01:41:20.560 --> 01:41:25.720 about gunshots and Kennedy and blah blah, but they don't know crap about Jack 1413 01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:28.199 Ruby. They just go, oh, he was a mob guy. That's 1414 01:41:28.319 --> 01:41:32.479 really dismissive of a guy who has a very interesting history. Uh, you 1415 01:41:32.600 --> 01:41:38.840 know, and he's not really part of the mob, but he's an associate, 1416 01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:44.479 you know. And there's a difference between being an associate and being impossible 1417 01:41:44.680 --> 01:41:48.560 a member. He's a Ruby for crying out loud well right, and the 1418 01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:51.760 fact that he turns over and ends up being government and foremant a couple of 1419 01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:57.239 times also not a shocker, you know, because we saw that too. 1420 01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:02.880 I got Fundolf Jack down that now I looked and yeah, he agreed to 1421 01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:08.760 be in the FBI format, but he never gave up nothing. He never 1422 01:42:08.920 --> 01:42:12.159 told him anything. Nero's acrifying. Yeah, but we don't know what he 1423 01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:17.239 gave the Dallas local police or the county guys. We don't know what he 1424 01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:20.680 ever gave him there, because there's paperwork to indicate that too, that he 1425 01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:27.920 was seen as a source and he definitely was openly cozying up to the cops. 1426 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:30.800 He would bring him sandwiches and crap, you know, I mean which 1427 01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:36.000 again, oh mancy Rich says he was supplying them with a lot more in 1428 01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:40.439 none, of course, And she's not the only one. He would give 1429 01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:42.720 him bottles of booze. He took him up. You know, it's your 1430 01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:45.720 kid's birthday. Here's a fifty dollars bill. Hey, by the way, 1431 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:47.840 why don't you go to dinner at this place? Here? It's already paid 1432 01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:54.319 for. But this is this is how a gangster operates when he's trying to 1433 01:42:54.640 --> 01:43:00.960 keep things on the level locally. This is very typical of anybody who's even 1434 01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:04.279 loose associated organized crime. And people made a big deal at him. I'm 1435 01:43:04.279 --> 01:43:06.560 like, oh, he's a police hanger on. He's like a policeman. 1436 01:43:06.600 --> 01:43:12.079 I'm like, no, this is how a criminal really operates if he's you 1437 01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:15.800 know, not just street level thug and running from every time a police car 1438 01:43:15.880 --> 01:43:20.039 goes by, if you're actually looking to operate it open, you know, 1439 01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:29.279 I would think I would think a fair description of him would be a lifelong 1440 01:43:29.720 --> 01:43:38.880 entrepreneur and minor chronic criminal. Well it's a little it's a little heavier than 1441 01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:41.199 that. I mean, he probably killed a few people, he liked to 1442 01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:44.640 fight, he was involved in gun running. He definitely went to Cuba, 1443 01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:48.800 and he did have some friends that had some power. So I would say 1444 01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:56.039 he's a little or yeah, yeah, he definitely but nah, I don't 1445 01:43:56.119 --> 01:44:00.960 think. Well, he definitely killed Oswalt. But that guy at Leon guy, 1446 01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:04.840 that's a farce. The man was born with the name mill name Leon. 1447 01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:10.479 So that's just a BS story. That Union guy that they always claim 1448 01:44:10.600 --> 01:44:14.079 he had something to do with, I don't think, well, that's my 1449 01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:16.239 opinion. I don't think he had anything to do with that one. Well, 1450 01:44:16.359 --> 01:44:18.319 you're talking about the stuff out of Chicage. Look, there was a 1451 01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:23.479 bunch of things out of Chicago where he was a little too close to a 1452 01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:27.119 bunch of murder beefs, you know, and the most what was it, 1453 01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:30.600 the junk Union guy was the biggest name out of it. But the fact 1454 01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:33.439 is that, you know, you get that close to a bunch of murder 1455 01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:40.960 investigations, you know, the smoking fire thing. It's likely that he was 1456 01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:45.439 tied to some stuff. And I'm certain by other accounts. You know, 1457 01:44:45.079 --> 01:44:48.279 you go into the right pizza restaurant there in Dallas and you ask him if 1458 01:44:48.319 --> 01:44:54.399 it's still a family establishment, and you talk to the right person in Italian, 1459 01:44:55.239 --> 01:44:58.520 you might get some answers about Jack Ruby from some people who you know, 1460 01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:04.119 heard it from grandpa or uncle whoever. So you know, just saying 1461 01:45:05.199 --> 01:45:09.960 back then, you couldn't just make your legend on Twitter. So anyway, 1462 01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:13.000 I'm gonna put you on hold, Jimmy and stick around if you want. 1463 01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:16.760 We got other callers on the line, bet Pete ready to move on to 1464 01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:24.159 the next Yes, absolutely, Okay, I think I think I'll let you 1465 01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:30.359 feel this one. But uh uh, missus, Oh you're you're with us 1466 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:32.479 now, And I don't know if you want to comment or you just want 1467 01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:35.119 to hang around and listen, because you had said a couple of things to 1468 01:45:35.159 --> 01:45:39.159 me earlier in the day. Did you catch my whole little story there about 1469 01:45:39.800 --> 01:45:43.159 you know, how it is under the boardwalk in Jersey And I'm not sure 1470 01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:46.319 if that's all regional or all Jersey, but that's how I remember it. 1471 01:45:47.479 --> 01:45:54.720 Any any any thoughts anything you want to add? No, not really, 1472 01:45:55.920 --> 01:46:00.520 okay, trot a bit apparently. Did you want me just put you on 1473 01:46:00.600 --> 01:46:09.000 hold and move on to the next caller for now? It was something that 1474 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:11.479 I wanted to ask him now, But now I don't remember what it is. 1475 01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:14.680 How about I give you a couple of minutes and we'll move. We'll 1476 01:46:14.720 --> 01:46:16.680 move along to somebody else and I'll come back to you hunt all right, 1477 01:46:17.800 --> 01:46:20.560 all right, I got a work. I know you just you were just 1478 01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:25.520 out. You just came home actually after I started broadcast. So, uh, 1479 01:46:25.640 --> 01:46:27.760 you and I have some catching up to do when I am hungry, 1480 01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:30.000 So hopefully we'll be able to eat when we're done here tonight. But I'm 1481 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:38.199 gonna put you on hold and we're gonna move to the next caller. I'm 1482 01:46:38.239 --> 01:46:43.680 pretty sure I got Harlan on the line. Yeah, it's money. What's 1483 01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:50.800 going on? Huh hey, Harlan? How wait blank, it's Sandy Mejannas 1484 01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:56.039 and I really ain't count. Yeah, I might have to catch for you. 1485 01:46:57.279 --> 01:47:00.640 Okay, well look I didn't I didn't mention what blank it's But those 1486 01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:06.000 can be problems too, And you know you're saying can get stuck moist. 1487 01:47:06.439 --> 01:47:10.159 Now, see, moist is an interesting word. Harland. Your time hasn't 1488 01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:13.760 started yet because I keep interrupting you. But no, no, no, 1489 01:47:14.119 --> 01:47:16.279 hey, look, it was just, uh, what what went down the 1490 01:47:16.399 --> 01:47:21.680 other week? You know, Chris got a little upset and decided that I'm 1491 01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:27.239 a terrible person and I'm a joke, so you know, cool good enough, 1492 01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:30.520 and uh, like I said, I wish him. Well that's that, 1493 01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:35.159 so there you go. He apparently got really upset over the fact that 1494 01:47:35.479 --> 01:47:39.880 missus Owen answered somebody in the chat room and said that he might add sand 1495 01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:44.359 in his vagina, which I explained pretty thoroughly. Were you on for that 1496 01:47:44.479 --> 01:47:49.319 explanation? I didn't notice. I got in the best of time that he 1497 01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:53.640 was on. He was under the forward wild and you know it was most 1498 01:47:53.720 --> 01:48:00.039 blank kids. Okay, all right, Well, any anything anything else do 1499 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:01.880 you want to ask about that? Go go right ahead. But I mean, 1500 01:48:02.199 --> 01:48:08.239 you know, I'm pretty much I'm pretty much good. But anything you 1501 01:48:08.279 --> 01:48:09.760 want to ask, go ahead, or if you want to ask me, 1502 01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:12.960 Peter, you want to talk about something else? Floor is yours for at 1503 01:48:13.039 --> 01:48:17.800 least five minutes? Still good? Well, you know, like I said, 1504 01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:20.720 you know last week, first thing for I forget about it. I 1505 01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:26.560 won't say that it was a shame that Jimmy wouldn't on your last week because 1506 01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:31.199 men him would have probably agreed most and would ever had on anything having to 1507 01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:39.039 do with publican residential candidates and revoke party because we probably took away the same 1508 01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:44.319 thing from Matt debate. Well, I'll bring a lot of other things. 1509 01:48:44.760 --> 01:48:47.199 I'll bring Jimmy back on in a few minutes. And I'll bring Jimmy back 1510 01:48:47.199 --> 01:48:49.359 on in a few minutes and see if that's true. But go ahead. 1511 01:48:49.399 --> 01:48:55.119 I'm not trying to interrupt your go ahead. But you know, it's it's 1512 01:48:55.159 --> 01:48:57.800 a shame, you know, I mean, just made just sitting there on 1513 01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:00.760 the edges, you know, looking at it. You know, everybody's had 1514 01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:06.680 a filing out and you know, I can't really remember exactly what got Chris 1515 01:49:06.800 --> 01:49:11.880 and BP, you know, like at each other, and you know, 1516 01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:15.640 me and Jimmy is you know, gutted each other's throat for the next week, 1517 01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:17.479 you know what what was all right? I mean I've even told him 1518 01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:20.680 to step back and so you noticed I have at it. He didn't even 1519 01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:27.560 do it. But I can't really remember exactly how that got started. No, 1520 01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:33.159 not that important usually, Well anyway, well, let me it's a 1521 01:49:33.239 --> 01:49:35.880 shame, you know that come to this. I mean, I really like 1522 01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:40.159 Chris and you know he's been good to me, and I wouldn't be here 1523 01:49:40.199 --> 01:49:44.039 tonight that Benfrey, right, and I appreciate that. I'm sorry that you 1524 01:49:44.159 --> 01:49:47.560 got about filing out. What can I do? Look, and I'm not 1525 01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:51.880 taking away from your time, but really quick, what happened is that nine 1526 01:49:51.880 --> 01:49:57.039 to eleven came up as a discussion. B Pete said something about, you 1527 01:49:57.159 --> 01:50:00.439 know, well, how about maybe just I think it was Building seven, 1528 01:50:00.840 --> 01:50:04.439 Maybe just Building seven fell because it was hit with debris? Is that possible? 1529 01:50:05.800 --> 01:50:10.319 What's that? Yeah? I removed that. I remember that part. 1530 01:50:10.399 --> 01:50:15.279 Then I'm talking about the actually in a word that say actually like far and 1531 01:50:15.359 --> 01:50:18.840 out with each other. I mean, I know what cause being Jimmy a 1532 01:50:18.920 --> 01:50:23.640 lot of times, you know he's pro Trump and I'm I'm really I'm really 1533 01:50:23.720 --> 01:50:27.239 not pro Trump. But I don't know what really like far out. I 1534 01:50:27.359 --> 01:50:30.880 must have just missed it to or you know, both guys or bosses gets 1535 01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:34.359 you raised, Well what happened there? I don't know what happened there is 1536 01:50:34.399 --> 01:50:38.279 that they started disagreeing a bit. You know, I'm not gonna take away 1537 01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:41.520 off your time for this. Uh still got about four minutes left. But 1538 01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:45.840 the thing is it was sort of like, okay, so Chris started to 1539 01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:50.279 disagree with stuff, and he wasn't addressing exactly what be people was saying. 1540 01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:55.000 He was just kind of throwing out some of the common nine to eleven stuff, 1541 01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:59.439 and then, you know, be Pete said, well, you know 1542 01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:00.960 that's out nothing to do, you know, like sort of challenged it back. 1543 01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:03.319 And then Chris turned around and said, okay, never mind, you 1544 01:51:03.399 --> 01:51:09.399 win, forget it. And it really irritated be Pete because he felt like 1545 01:51:09.520 --> 01:51:13.199 that was just, you know, kind of a punk way to end it, 1546 01:51:13.960 --> 01:51:15.920 and was sort of like, all right, so fine, you're gonna 1547 01:51:15.920 --> 01:51:17.319 talk to me like that. Well, and then the two of them got 1548 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:21.159 a little heated with each other, and I said, well, all right, 1549 01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:24.399 look, it's towards the end of the show. You guys can always 1550 01:51:24.399 --> 01:51:29.600 debate this next week, no problem. And like I said, Chris didn't 1551 01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:31.640 really want to do it. He said he didn't feel well and certainly didn't 1552 01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:34.840 want to waste this time arguing with v Pete. I said, okay, 1553 01:51:34.880 --> 01:51:40.199 cool, you know, and I wanted to move on anyway because the show 1554 01:51:40.279 --> 01:51:43.000 was a little too sloppy. I wanted to fix that. So now I'm 1555 01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:46.720 making efforts to do that, which I was going to do anyhow, and 1556 01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:50.439 it was necessary. So but as far as the way the two of them 1557 01:51:50.479 --> 01:51:54.439 got at it. It's you know, Chris just kind of did the whole 1558 01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:59.279 way you win, then fine, never mind, forget it and that piss 1559 01:51:59.359 --> 01:52:02.359 be pete off and got a little angry there, and then, uh, 1560 01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:10.600 you know, I think that's where the set off for Chris's resentment started. 1561 01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:15.159 But I'm making a guess here. I'm making an estimated guests there because I 1562 01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:17.600 don't know what's in the guy's head. I know what happened next and how 1563 01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:21.600 he started getting nasty with me, but it felt like to me it might 1564 01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:27.600 have started there and then just carried on from there. And by the way, 1565 01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:29.840 I tried to just let it go for like two days, and then 1566 01:52:29.960 --> 01:52:32.279 forty eight hours later or so, I start seeing more stuff on Twitter, 1567 01:52:32.800 --> 01:52:39.439 stuff he's saying about me and whatnot, and you know, so that's that's 1568 01:52:39.479 --> 01:52:43.159 where that went. But I believe it started there. But apparently he was 1569 01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:45.399 harboring some stuff before that. So what can I say. I don't know 1570 01:52:45.479 --> 01:52:49.119 how it works. You'd have to ask him. And uh, there you 1571 01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:53.399 go. I just gave what I could as as as best I could here 1572 01:52:53.720 --> 01:52:57.920 since people asked about it. So you got four more minutes, Harlan, 1573 01:52:58.039 --> 01:53:00.479 go right ahead, whatever you want to go at But it's true. You 1574 01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:01.680 know a lot of us will go at each other and then the next week, 1575 01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:06.000 hey, look, let's not do that again. Okay, I'd rather 1576 01:53:06.159 --> 01:53:09.640 that we didn't go at each other like that, but it's gonna happen. 1577 01:53:10.119 --> 01:53:12.840 You know, if somebody gets passionate, heated about something, they got a 1578 01:53:13.239 --> 01:53:15.840 deep seated belief they're expressing themselves, they feel like somebody else didn't let them, 1579 01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:23.520 et cetera. It's gonna happen. So go ahead, man. Well 1580 01:53:23.840 --> 01:53:25.840 you know, Kyle, well, you know I took you, you know 1581 01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:29.439 on that show there a couple of weeks ago that Chris has been a bad 1582 01:53:29.520 --> 01:53:35.439 healthier lately everybody shows here. I think he was just school around aggravated and 1583 01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:40.359 get feeling bad. And I sank that's reason why he's probably said that back. 1584 01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:44.000 You know too, they I do remember the part about most of the 1585 01:53:44.079 --> 01:53:49.279 conversations. Excuse me, I just didn't you know exactly how did it got 1586 01:53:49.359 --> 01:53:51.880 there? Because it was like, wow, we was there and oh my 1587 01:53:53.039 --> 01:53:56.840 god, this is worsening, and Jimmy James, you know, let flare 1588 01:53:56.920 --> 01:54:00.359 it up, you know, all of a sudden and you know, like 1589 01:54:00.560 --> 01:54:04.960 I said on that show a lot of this stuff that you know is believing 1590 01:54:05.079 --> 01:54:11.039 on the official story or whatever. A lot of those things, basically, 1591 01:54:11.159 --> 01:54:16.520 you know, more mainstream. They picked up the building sema, and you 1592 01:54:16.560 --> 01:54:20.000 know, if they won't jump in and say something, I'm off forward. 1593 01:54:20.159 --> 01:54:24.359 But I'm just you know, I'm just trying to understand, you know what 1594 01:54:24.439 --> 01:54:30.600 i mean. Yeah, well there you go. Well let let let let 1595 01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:34.640 me be respond to that. Good quick point of clarification. And I even 1596 01:54:34.680 --> 01:54:40.520 said this on the show two weeks ago. I don't believe the official story. 1597 01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:46.399 There are some aspects of the official story that are true. There's a 1598 01:54:46.479 --> 01:54:54.560 good majority of official story that's crap. I don't believe the official story. 1599 01:54:54.800 --> 01:55:00.399 But when we want to discuss specific aspects of the official story, let's discuss 1600 01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:05.680 that aspect based on the evidence that we have. That's all I've ever stated. 1601 01:55:06.720 --> 01:55:11.199 Now. I think there was a lot more behind it. I think 1602 01:55:11.279 --> 01:55:18.000 there's my most wildest fantasy is I think maybe this was something that the intelligence 1603 01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:21.560 community had a part of and it got out of hand. We've seen that 1604 01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:28.880 happen before, So, you know, just to clarify anybody out there listening 1605 01:55:28.960 --> 01:55:31.600 for future, no, I don't believe the official story. There are parts 1606 01:55:31.640 --> 01:55:35.079 of the official story that are true. We got to figure out which ones 1607 01:55:35.079 --> 01:55:42.520 those are well, and there it is. Look, it does sound, 1608 01:55:42.680 --> 01:55:49.159 though, to the person who is very much invested in the conspiracy side of 1609 01:55:49.239 --> 01:55:56.000 the equation, that you are quite a bit on the side of the standard 1610 01:55:56.239 --> 01:56:00.359 or official story, because you agree with some of it. And that's the 1611 01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:04.520 way it sounds, that's the way it comes off, and that I understand 1612 01:56:04.760 --> 01:56:11.119 well, and that's that's based on that's based on experience in construction for the 1613 01:56:11.199 --> 01:56:15.840 past forty five years. So sure, but you know, my line of 1614 01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:19.479 work is along the engineer is in the engineering field, that in the legal 1615 01:56:19.600 --> 01:56:24.520 field over the years, So yeah, I look at things a little differently 1616 01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:27.039 than some people. But then again, you had a lot of people when 1617 01:56:27.039 --> 01:56:29.479 I first came on this show that thought I believed, you know, I 1618 01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:32.479 was a firm believer in the war and report. We've found out that certainly 1619 01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:36.800 isn't true. So you know, as time goes on, people might understand 1620 01:56:36.880 --> 01:56:41.399 my position a little bit better, but it takes discussion to be able to 1621 01:56:41.880 --> 01:56:45.720 understand that position well. And that's what it is. Look, and this 1622 01:56:45.920 --> 01:56:48.119 is always a problem for me as well, because I don't necessarily ascribe to 1623 01:56:48.159 --> 01:56:56.199 every single conspiracy theory out there, and some people seemingly ascribe to all of 1624 01:56:56.279 --> 01:57:00.039 them. And it's very confusing because even the conspiracy theory to contradict each other, 1625 01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:04.720 they seem to embrace. And it's it's it's an odd position. I 1626 01:57:04.800 --> 01:57:08.680 mean, you're when it comes to nine to eleven, you're a little more, 1627 01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:12.560 a little more on the official story side than most of us, who 1628 01:57:13.399 --> 01:57:16.359 well, I'm on the officials. Let's let's see if we can even slim 1629 01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:19.840 that down. I'm on the official story side when it comes to those buildings 1630 01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:27.199 coming down. Now, the whole thing about you know, we've heard everything, 1631 01:57:27.279 --> 01:57:31.279 We've heard every theory from there was fake planes, there was holograms, 1632 01:57:31.479 --> 01:57:38.720 there was directed energy weapons. I'm based it on years of building buildings and 1633 01:57:38.800 --> 01:57:44.640 watching ship fall down. And yeah, those buildings. I believe a lot 1634 01:57:44.680 --> 01:57:48.359 of the official story in the way that the buildings actually collapsed. Everything prior 1635 01:57:48.439 --> 01:57:53.960 to that, everything after that, all the conspiracy involved in it. Let's 1636 01:57:53.960 --> 01:57:56.560 look at how the buildings came down. Now, Yeah, I'll argue that 1637 01:57:57.159 --> 01:58:00.479 day and day out. But you know, engineering, engineering, things that 1638 01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:05.520 are built by people fall apart if you do certain things. So no, 1639 01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:11.079 and and they're you know, without getting into the specifics. Yeah, it's 1640 01:58:11.199 --> 01:58:14.920 impossible to know exactly what my position is if you're just a casual observer. 1641 01:58:15.239 --> 01:58:16.800 Well, right, and look, and you know, just in all fairness, 1642 01:58:16.880 --> 01:58:19.800 I mean, there are people that are architects and engineers. Literally, 1643 01:58:19.880 --> 01:58:25.920 there's a group named that which you know kicked Richard Gauge out. But there's 1644 01:58:25.920 --> 01:58:30.159 a group out there of people that are in that profession who certainly disagree with 1645 01:58:30.319 --> 01:58:34.039 you U. And again I would say, let's look at the whole of 1646 01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:36.840 the evidence and let's see who can explain it to, uh, you know, 1647 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:40.319 common person. I don't claim to be an engineer of any kind. 1648 01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:45.720 You know. I claim to know things that I've been exposed to extensively that 1649 01:58:45.840 --> 01:58:50.039 I've been operational in. Uh, you know, and maybe I know a 1650 01:58:50.119 --> 01:58:54.720 few things about some things I've read about, But generally speaking, I would 1651 01:58:54.800 --> 01:58:59.600 never claim to be an engineer or an architect, you know. So, 1652 01:59:00.159 --> 01:59:03.079 but I don't have that experience. It's pretty simple anyways, So Harlan, 1653 01:59:03.279 --> 01:59:06.119 Yeah, I think that's what was at the root of it. But anything 1654 01:59:06.159 --> 01:59:13.239 else you want to throw in here, go ahead. I know pretty much, 1655 01:59:13.319 --> 01:59:15.720 you know, I guess on this up to get pretty much bad. 1656 01:59:15.079 --> 01:59:21.760 I mean, okay, well he got something else about and you know, 1657 01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:27.399 pretty much funny, and I would here. You know what Jimmy has got 1658 01:59:27.520 --> 01:59:33.039 to say about that's a debate? Oh definitely, I'll tell you what. 1659 01:59:33.199 --> 01:59:36.199 Let's get around. I'll tell you what I'm gonna do, Harlan. I'm 1660 01:59:36.239 --> 01:59:40.159 gonna put you on hold for now. Go ahead, okay, I'm gonna 1661 01:59:40.199 --> 01:59:43.439 put you on hold for now. Let's keep you there for a few minutes. 1662 01:59:43.880 --> 01:59:45.880 I want to let Advance get on because he's sitting and waiting, or 1663 01:59:45.960 --> 01:59:48.239 he was. Let's see if he's still there, Yes, he is, 1664 01:59:48.319 --> 01:59:51.479 Okay, I want to let Advance get on and say what he wants to 1665 01:59:51.520 --> 01:59:56.680 say, and then I'll get back around and maybe I'll put you and Jimmy 1666 01:59:56.720 --> 02:00:00.479 James on for a couple of minutes so you guys can talk and see what 1667 02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:03.640 you guys think. I mean, I thought the debate was hilarious and I 1668 02:00:04.279 --> 02:00:10.439 feel like it accomplished absolutely nothing. But you know what, you guys might 1669 02:00:10.479 --> 02:00:14.279 see it differently, and maybe Jimmy you'll see it differently. I didn't get 1670 02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:16.760 a chance to talk to Jimmy Aboutett because he wasn't on the air that night 1671 02:00:16.840 --> 02:00:21.560 when we went over the debate, So anyway, it'll be interesting to go 1672 02:00:21.680 --> 02:00:25.039 there. I think we'll go there next. But first, before we get 1673 02:00:25.079 --> 02:00:28.000 there, let's get to Vance. And also I think missus O still on 1674 02:00:28.079 --> 02:00:30.039 the line, so you know, we've got a couple other places to go. 1675 02:00:30.159 --> 02:00:34.000 Maybe she'll remember what she had to say, so I'll do that before 1676 02:00:34.039 --> 02:00:40.159 I get back around Jimmy James. So first off, Vance, you're live, 1677 02:00:40.479 --> 02:00:43.479 and anything you want to go for five minutes, go right ahead. 1678 02:00:44.119 --> 02:00:48.000 But here we are, Man, what's up? Oh, not much, 1679 02:00:48.119 --> 02:00:55.520 just listening in and you know, sad to hear what all happened, and 1680 02:00:55.800 --> 02:00:59.119 you know, it's just one of those things. It sometimes happens. And 1681 02:00:59.600 --> 02:01:05.640 yip kind of the thought had crossed my mind, uh, prior similar to 1682 02:01:05.760 --> 02:01:11.000 what uh, because I really like, you know, I thought Chris was 1683 02:01:11.039 --> 02:01:14.199 pretty cool. And you know, while I don't really care about, you 1684 02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:17.239 know, some of the you know, movie stuff so much or you know, 1685 02:01:17.319 --> 02:01:20.399 I'm not into that kind of genre stuff or whatever thing. You know, 1686 02:01:20.520 --> 02:01:24.840 he's you know, he had enjoyed a lot of his content and all 1687 02:01:24.960 --> 02:01:28.960 that stuff, and you know, I know he's not as old as my 1688 02:01:29.119 --> 02:01:30.600 dad. And you know, I know a lot of people that you know, 1689 02:01:30.720 --> 02:01:34.359 when they don't feel good, they you know, blow stuff out of 1690 02:01:34.439 --> 02:01:39.520 proportion just because that's the way the event. You know, they've discomfort and 1691 02:01:39.800 --> 02:01:45.199 all that. So you know, maybe that's you know, partly involved in 1692 02:01:45.479 --> 02:01:47.399 all that. But it seems like something got way out of hand and you 1693 02:01:47.479 --> 02:01:51.000 know, kind of just yes, then need to go there, and and 1694 02:01:51.319 --> 02:01:57.560 it sounds like you did everything you could to to you know, diffuse the 1695 02:01:57.640 --> 02:02:01.079 situation, and it just is what it is is, So we'll move on 1696 02:02:01.279 --> 02:02:05.000 for there. But you know, go ahead if you want to say something. 1697 02:02:05.199 --> 02:02:08.920 No, I'm sorry. I I was just saying I failed to diffuse 1698 02:02:09.039 --> 02:02:13.439 the situation, but I did attempt to. And uh, you know, 1699 02:02:14.039 --> 02:02:17.760 what can I say. I'm not making excuses or claiming to know anything other 1700 02:02:17.840 --> 02:02:23.960 than what I was told and what was apparent. So but it is what 1701 02:02:24.079 --> 02:02:27.039 it is. Yeah, exactly, So sorry to have interrupted you though, 1702 02:02:27.079 --> 02:02:30.520 go ahead, and I'm like, just we you know, I guess we 1703 02:02:30.680 --> 02:02:34.039 just need to get that out of the way, because you know, it's 1704 02:02:34.279 --> 02:02:38.000 it's a bummer one way or the other, however it happened, and you 1705 02:02:38.119 --> 02:02:42.159 know, the best for everybody, you know, involved, and you know 1706 02:02:42.399 --> 02:02:45.880 that's just the way it works out sometimes. But but ay, ready at 1707 02:02:45.960 --> 02:02:48.560 some point, you know, you know, there's a lot of questions, 1708 02:02:48.720 --> 02:02:53.920 you know, things I could not necessarily debate. You know, I'm not 1709 02:02:54.039 --> 02:02:57.000 an engineer or anything, but I did do a lot of studying on the 1710 02:02:58.159 --> 02:03:01.479 and not need degree levels, but you know, I've looked into the you 1711 02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:05.600 know, construction of the trade centers and all that, and and I think 1712 02:03:05.680 --> 02:03:13.720 even during that podcast chat putting the chat some about what about the beams that 1713 02:03:13.760 --> 02:03:16.279 are cut in an angle, you know, and all that kind of stuff, 1714 02:03:16.319 --> 02:03:23.279 so, you know, and and during that last show that there was 1715 02:03:23.359 --> 02:03:28.800 a narrative about the building seven being pre wired already, and I've never heard 1716 02:03:28.840 --> 02:03:30.880 that before, but it makes perfect sense, if you know, if you 1717 02:03:30.960 --> 02:03:34.720 think about it in a strategic way or whatever. But I never even heard 1718 02:03:34.800 --> 02:03:40.159 that, you know, theory reformed, you know, but you know, 1719 02:03:41.159 --> 02:03:45.920 it's that building definitely, even with the damage that you know, it's supposedly 1720 02:03:45.840 --> 02:03:50.039 sustained. You know that it's hard for me to believe that it collapsed like 1721 02:03:50.159 --> 02:03:56.119 that. And like you said before, there's lots of engineers that would would 1722 02:03:56.159 --> 02:03:59.399 agree with that, and you know, I don't know exactly what happened. 1723 02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:01.479 But I see a lot of things, you know, they just don't make 1724 02:04:01.600 --> 02:04:08.880 any sense. And it's my understanding of the way the building was constructed and 1725 02:04:08.960 --> 02:04:13.359 everything that the planes, you know, couldn't have made it collapse like that. 1726 02:04:13.640 --> 02:04:20.560 You know, the intercore was really uh uh massive structure, and the 1727 02:04:20.680 --> 02:04:25.880 floors were all built off of that, and you know, so it it 1728 02:04:26.039 --> 02:04:28.680 just didn't make sense for it to collapse that way, if it was to 1729 02:04:28.800 --> 02:04:33.279 collapse. But and that's I guess, you know, just that showed I 1730 02:04:33.399 --> 02:04:38.000 got it, and you don't. Why I don't. I don't agree with 1731 02:04:38.159 --> 02:04:42.880 you know, the deficient active. If I can't believe some of it, 1732 02:04:42.960 --> 02:04:45.960 I can't believe of it. And obviously there's certain facts. There are certain 1733 02:04:45.039 --> 02:04:47.680 facts that you know, the building fell down and it was one hundred and 1734 02:04:47.680 --> 02:04:51.800 ten stories tall, and there's always a little bit of truth and anything they 1735 02:04:51.920 --> 02:04:58.119 say, you know, but I'll stop there. Well, the best lies 1736 02:04:58.159 --> 02:05:00.159 are always blended with some elements the truth. I mean, you can't just 1737 02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:04.840 fabricate something mat of thin air and expect everybody to believe it. So yeah, 1738 02:05:04.920 --> 02:05:08.479 of course, but you know the interesting part about this is that we 1739 02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:13.760 could have just organized a, Hey, bring your best piece of evidence to 1740 02:05:13.880 --> 02:05:16.359 the table. You know, give me some audio, or give me a 1741 02:05:16.439 --> 02:05:20.520 link or something, give me an article, or come on and give yourself 1742 02:05:20.560 --> 02:05:25.039 a presentation during one of these discussions, and we throw it all on the 1743 02:05:25.119 --> 02:05:29.479 table. I mean, hell, we could do that around well sometime soon 1744 02:05:29.880 --> 02:05:32.479 if we wanted to. That could be of interest, you know, the 1745 02:05:32.640 --> 02:05:36.359 curious points of nine to eleven, let's say, and I just let everybody 1746 02:05:36.399 --> 02:05:42.119 bring their own stuff to the table. That could be interesting. But you 1747 02:05:42.199 --> 02:05:45.039 know, that night it just didn't work out too well. So you got 1748 02:05:45.079 --> 02:05:46.199 a couple of minutes left if you want to use them. If not, 1749 02:05:46.359 --> 02:05:50.119 I could move along and we could try and get back around to missus Oc 1750 02:05:50.239 --> 02:05:54.199 if she remembers what she wanted to say, and then also get back to 1751 02:05:54.279 --> 02:05:57.560 Harlan and Jimmy James, maybe talking about the debate, which we did cover 1752 02:05:57.720 --> 02:06:01.880 last week a bit. There was that, uh, and I did play 1753 02:06:01.920 --> 02:06:05.760 clips from that a bit. Uh, you know, But tonight, I 1754 02:06:05.760 --> 02:06:08.800 don't know. I was just so bored with what I was putting together. 1755 02:06:08.880 --> 02:06:10.920 I just I said, you know what, nobody's gonna want to listen to 1756 02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:13.760 this. I don't want to listen to this, which is an editorial judgment 1757 02:06:13.800 --> 02:06:16.760 of mine. And yeah, I figured might as well answer the questions so 1758 02:06:16.880 --> 02:06:21.079 that people are just going whoop, and here it is. This is what 1759 02:06:21.199 --> 02:06:27.640 I know. So anyways, yeah, and then and then I guess the 1760 02:06:27.920 --> 02:06:31.520 other thing we can get to you eventually, you know, or it needs 1761 02:06:31.560 --> 02:06:34.960 to be brought up or I'd like to kick around a little bit. Is 1762 02:06:35.239 --> 02:06:39.880 this Mollie stuff that's going on. And you know that no matter what you 1763 02:06:40.000 --> 02:06:43.319 think about who, when, what or where, it's like the response and 1764 02:06:43.399 --> 02:06:47.199 all this is just dismal, and you know it's it's it is pretty pathetic. 1765 02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:51.520 Yeah, but what else is new with the dismal response? Right? 1766 02:06:51.680 --> 02:06:56.600 I mean, look, I gotta I gotta say that, right, And 1767 02:06:56.840 --> 02:07:00.439 it's not because I wanted to fend Joe Biden, because clearly I'm and I'm 1768 02:07:00.479 --> 02:07:02.159 figuring Grandpa. I don't even know where he is half the time. But 1769 02:07:02.279 --> 02:07:06.720 the people that are working in these organizations, you know, as David Knight 1770 02:07:06.800 --> 02:07:11.239 said something like, you know, if you see a bad response constantly coming 1771 02:07:11.960 --> 02:07:14.920 from the people that are supposed to be, you know, doing this stuff 1772 02:07:15.039 --> 02:07:17.399 like FEMA, if you constantly see a bad response, after a while, 1773 02:07:17.439 --> 02:07:20.319 you got to start asking, is that really what they intend to do? 1774 02:07:21.119 --> 02:07:25.840 You know, is the slower response, is the lack of response, is 1775 02:07:25.960 --> 02:07:30.000 the whatever? Is that what they intend to do? Or you know, 1776 02:07:30.239 --> 02:07:32.000 an equal question, which is a fair one, which is, uh, 1777 02:07:32.439 --> 02:07:38.000 you know, can you actually adequately address these things when all hell breaks loose 1778 02:07:38.600 --> 02:07:42.279 in a place where a fire does happen? I mean, that's assuming and 1779 02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:45.119 I know a lot of people have already had assumptions that this was a pre 1780 02:07:45.279 --> 02:07:49.439 planned thing and that somebody planned to do this. I'm not saying they didn't. 1781 02:07:49.640 --> 02:07:55.000 But in the case that it wasn't planned at all, is it also 1782 02:07:55.159 --> 02:08:01.520 possible that it's just impossible to respond to everything adequately enough so that everybody gets 1783 02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:05.560 taken care of. You know, I tell you that the people of Puerto 1784 02:08:05.640 --> 02:08:11.199 Rico are still suffering after a couple of years later, after devastating hurricanes. 1785 02:08:11.920 --> 02:08:15.800 I'm still hearing about that. You're not hearing about it on the news or 1786 02:08:15.800 --> 02:08:18.800 anything, but I do hear about it. I hear about people still suffering 1787 02:08:18.920 --> 02:08:24.640 from you know, California fires three years ago, that there's still situations unresolved. 1788 02:08:26.319 --> 02:08:31.479 You know, these large disasters leave long term effects, and is it 1789 02:08:33.479 --> 02:08:37.479 just the way of the world or is it intentional or is it part of 1790 02:08:37.520 --> 02:08:41.600 the design, or is this about you know, downsizing and hurting people into 1791 02:08:41.600 --> 02:08:46.760 certain places. Man, your guess is as good as mine as far as 1792 02:08:46.840 --> 02:08:50.720 I'm concerned, until I see some evidence that says this is exactly what they 1793 02:08:50.760 --> 02:08:54.680 mean to do. And some people would say there's plenty of it, And 1794 02:08:54.800 --> 02:08:58.239 I'm an idiot for even even considering that. It could be just you know 1795 02:08:58.359 --> 02:09:03.239 what, maybe we don't know exactly how to handle everything. Maybe you know, 1796 02:09:03.279 --> 02:09:07.720 and especially you want efficiency and good operations from government agencies. Man. 1797 02:09:09.279 --> 02:09:13.680 You know, that's like being pissed off at the Boy Scout first Aid squad 1798 02:09:13.399 --> 02:09:18.720 because they couldn't save everybody's life, you know, in the apartment building. 1799 02:09:18.039 --> 02:09:22.600 You know what I'm saying, because everybody simultaneously dropped, and you know, 1800 02:09:22.720 --> 02:09:26.359 the Boy Scouts were able to save some people, but they couldn't save them 1801 02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:31.479 all. I don't know. I don't know, man, It's just what 1802 02:09:31.600 --> 02:09:33.520 I consider. I try and keep an open mind about these things and not 1803 02:09:33.680 --> 02:09:41.039 always assume that you know there's a plan. But then again, there's people 1804 02:09:41.079 --> 02:09:43.159 constantly making plans about things that will never happen. And I talk about that 1805 02:09:43.239 --> 02:09:46.840 on the show sometimes too. Anyways, van's anything else you want to say 1806 02:09:46.880 --> 02:09:50.880 before I put you on hold and move on over because we are over time 1807 02:09:50.920 --> 02:09:52.640 a bit. But as I said, I'm going to allow for extra time 1808 02:09:52.680 --> 02:10:01.600 tonight. So anything else you want to add, go ahead and we'll talk 1809 02:10:01.640 --> 02:10:05.279 to you later. All right, Well, you hang on there. I'll 1810 02:10:05.279 --> 02:10:09.000 put you on hold, and let's see. Now this is Oh, I'm 1811 02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:11.680 gonna come back around to you real quick, see if you can remember the 1812 02:10:11.720 --> 02:10:15.079 thing you wanted to bring up. Wanted to bring up, missus. Oh, 1813 02:10:16.560 --> 02:10:18.720 I'm on in the back room, on in the background. Okay, 1814 02:10:20.039 --> 02:10:24.279 okay, this is one of those you gotta turn on radio down down, 1815 02:10:24.319 --> 02:10:26.840 all right, there we go. I'm gonna put Miz on hold. Let's 1816 02:10:26.880 --> 02:10:30.560 see. Nope, that I had the wrong button down anyway, I had 1817 02:10:30.600 --> 02:10:33.000 my echo effect happening. Oh, missus, Oh where are you? You? 1818 02:10:33.119 --> 02:10:39.479 Hung up? All right, fine, let's go on to Jimmy James, 1819 02:10:39.560 --> 02:10:43.600 because I did promise that I would put Jimmy James and Harlan back on. 1820 02:10:43.439 --> 02:10:48.760 So Jimmy Harlan was curious to hear about what you might want to say 1821 02:10:48.760 --> 02:10:52.920 about the debates. And I'm thinking i'll put the two of you on to 1822 02:10:52.960 --> 02:10:56.119 talk about it and see if you guys come up with the same kind of 1823 02:10:56.239 --> 02:11:03.199 ideas. But going to you first here last week when he was his last 1824 02:11:03.359 --> 02:11:07.920 parting comments, he nailed it. He said, well, Jimmy James isn't 1825 02:11:09.000 --> 02:11:13.239 here, but I bet he would say the person the one the debate was 1826 02:11:13.399 --> 02:11:16.520 Trump, and he nailed it. That's exactly what I would have said. 1827 02:11:16.840 --> 02:11:20.680 So they're gonna go. You know, you know what's hilarious about that, 1828 02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:24.039 Jimmy James is guess what this is gonna be a weird situation. You're ready. 1829 02:11:24.800 --> 02:11:26.880 I agree with you, and I agree with Harland as well. So 1830 02:11:28.920 --> 02:11:33.359 let's put Harlan on. I think the only clear winner actually in that debate 1831 02:11:33.640 --> 02:11:41.640 was Trump, So there you go. You're both on high that's right. 1832 02:11:41.119 --> 02:11:46.359 Or Jesus won that hands down, the even and when they couldn't even wash 1833 02:11:46.479 --> 02:11:52.800 his fate, go ahead, you got it. So and I was for 1834 02:11:54.199 --> 02:11:58.199 just one thing that I love. Is I always faithful. That's over here 1835 02:11:58.319 --> 02:12:03.960 running you know to round Swammy. As I said last week, you know 1836 02:12:03.079 --> 02:12:07.760 he's speeding you around Swamy sandwiches the new He's speeding you a lot of shit. 1837 02:12:09.159 --> 02:12:13.079 But there's stuff coming out every day, guys. I ain't even had 1838 02:12:13.079 --> 02:12:18.079 a chance to keep up with it. It's been kind of a rough week. 1839 02:12:18.199 --> 02:12:22.479 Ain't dumped on Twitter, but maybe like once or twice for a few 1840 02:12:22.600 --> 02:12:28.279 minutes. But people keep sending me links that were this guy was on with 1841 02:12:28.399 --> 02:12:35.239 Al Sharpton way back when when he had a show. There's people sending links 1842 02:12:35.319 --> 02:12:37.359 about the George Soros, which I think, you know, there's a lot 1843 02:12:37.399 --> 02:12:41.760 of things there's probably a lot of Republicans about there in politics, sure now 1844 02:12:41.840 --> 02:12:46.600 that tied to him or some other left wing place to that got him through 1845 02:12:46.680 --> 02:12:52.399 college. But I just don't understand why you've got this hard core a little 1846 02:12:52.439 --> 02:12:58.079 section of people just dislike, you know, he's just great when most things 1847 02:12:58.279 --> 02:13:01.079 keep saying that, you know, he's stuff, were saying whatever, you 1848 02:13:01.199 --> 02:13:05.239 know, they can get him some attention. Yep. And by the way, 1849 02:13:05.960 --> 02:13:15.279 does anybody believe these gimmicks are the last six eight months that the Republicans 1850 02:13:15.399 --> 02:13:18.399 is going to shut down all these different agencies when they wouldn't even you know, 1851 02:13:18.640 --> 02:13:24.119 just tied up a few rules in the ATF that they had promised for 1852 02:13:24.239 --> 02:13:31.319 years. And one more thing I'd like to mention, as I saw earlier, 1853 02:13:31.439 --> 02:13:37.199 today I've not dug to for into it, but actually it was just 1854 02:13:37.479 --> 02:13:41.920 day the first that Joe Biggs I used to work for him for the wars 1855 02:13:43.520 --> 02:13:50.439 that he's got seventeen years for his part in January sixth, and tell truth 1856 02:13:50.520 --> 02:13:54.439 that I don't even know what he actually died. If he was just one 1857 02:13:54.479 --> 02:13:58.079 of the folks that just block through her, if he actually done something more 1858 02:13:58.159 --> 02:14:03.079 in area, had stuff i'd the scenes, who takes messengers or you know. 1859 02:14:03.239 --> 02:14:07.079 But I do think that it is a shame if you've had all these 1860 02:14:07.239 --> 02:14:11.960 people that failed for this queue and non stuff and the whole J six gript 1861 02:14:13.960 --> 02:14:18.319 that they have ended up with their lives destroyed, and he's just one of 1862 02:14:18.359 --> 02:14:22.199 the few. This got the biggest sentences. And there's all kinds of people 1863 02:14:22.239 --> 02:14:28.199 like the areas they have been broke, spend every nickel that they had just 1864 02:14:28.359 --> 02:14:33.560 trying to put up a lot, and I think that just hate the truth 1865 02:14:33.640 --> 02:14:37.960 about it. You know, if they can find those thousand people, wis 1866 02:14:39.039 --> 02:14:45.239 nobody running this queue bullshit that whoever that was, whys nobody you will bought 1867 02:14:45.279 --> 02:14:50.239 a banger and anybody else besides you know the suckers that was there. I 1868 02:14:50.359 --> 02:14:56.560 think that's just a sad time. Well, I think that the pieties were 1869 02:14:56.720 --> 02:15:01.640 cremated, is what they've done. Understand Dan, is that kind of heat. 1870 02:15:01.800 --> 02:15:09.000 A lot of the bodies were damn near instantly destroyed. Okay, I'm 1871 02:15:09.000 --> 02:15:11.359 gonna put Harlan on hold for a second. Jimmy, which which bodies are 1872 02:15:11.359 --> 02:15:18.199 we talking about it? What's up? I say? Which body? Mai 1873 02:15:18.680 --> 02:15:22.720 oh in Maui? Okay, okay, no, I you see, Uh, 1874 02:15:22.039 --> 02:15:26.640 Harlan was talking about, you know, Joe Biggs getting convicted and you 1875 02:15:26.720 --> 02:15:31.039 know he's got seventeen years now, and very little was said about it. 1876 02:15:31.159 --> 02:15:35.159 I mean, the details were not even focused on. But you know, 1877 02:15:35.279 --> 02:15:39.479 and he was a former Info Wars guy. I don't see Alex Jones trying 1878 02:15:39.520 --> 02:15:43.760 to put up his money for him either, huh. But anyway, you 1879 02:15:43.880 --> 02:15:48.159 know, that's he ended it. He mentioned that, and he's correct. 1880 02:15:48.199 --> 02:15:54.640 There's amount there's a thousand missing people in Maui and they're not really missing. 1881 02:15:56.319 --> 02:16:01.560 What they don't understand is that they're gone. They've been. That's almost like 1882 02:16:01.760 --> 02:16:09.880 that they were new pretty much the same effort. And as an operating engineer 1883 02:16:11.119 --> 02:16:20.079 two weeks ago, me and b Pet's only we had one disagreement. It 1884 02:16:20.119 --> 02:16:26.640 would see seem over the security building. I tend to think that they demoed 1885 02:16:26.680 --> 02:16:33.479 that building on their own. And I even gave an example, and I 1886 02:16:33.520 --> 02:16:39.040 would take b Pete said that he takes that building just got destroyed by the 1887 02:16:39.120 --> 02:16:43.639 other buildings. I guess, well, and you know what I don't. 1888 02:16:45.639 --> 02:16:48.079 I don't argue against either one of your ideas. As a matter of fact, 1889 02:16:48.120 --> 02:16:50.639 I would find it a whole lot more plausible. I think I said 1890 02:16:50.680 --> 02:16:56.000 this to you when you said it that look, just to secure the site, 1891 02:16:56.799 --> 02:17:03.200 somebody might have demoed that. That would not be an unreasonable solution to 1892 02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:07.520 Look, we don't know what is now accessible because there's holes in this place. 1893 02:17:07.040 --> 02:17:11.120 We don't want people scavenging it. If we'll level it, then we 1894 02:17:11.200 --> 02:17:16.840 can probably control what comes out of the rubble a lot easier than if we've 1895 02:17:16.840 --> 02:17:20.719 got an open air building here that can no longer be secured. I would 1896 02:17:20.799 --> 02:17:24.799 think if somebody just came out and said, look, we purposely took that 1897 02:17:24.920 --> 02:17:28.360 thing down because it was damaged and we were no longer able to keep it 1898 02:17:28.440 --> 02:17:30.600 secure, and there was a lot of things that needed to be secured in 1899 02:17:30.680 --> 02:17:35.280 that facility, I would say Okay, that's an acceptable answer considering all the 1900 02:17:35.319 --> 02:17:41.360 things that we're in there. But I don't know. I tend to not 1901 02:17:41.959 --> 02:17:45.079 feel that it's the correct answer that it just came down because it was hit 1902 02:17:45.120 --> 02:17:48.319 by debris. Now, BP seemed to suggest that that's how we saw it. 1903 02:17:50.600 --> 02:17:52.399 You know that it would make sense that that building came down after it 1904 02:17:52.479 --> 02:18:00.840 was hit. What can I say? You know, I don't, I 1905 02:18:00.920 --> 02:18:03.360 don't feel that way. I feel as though it had to have come down 1906 02:18:03.440 --> 02:18:07.200 on purpose. Uh, And I don't think it was. It wasn't the 1907 02:18:07.280 --> 02:18:09.520 design of the guys flying the planes, because they didn't hit that one, 1908 02:18:09.920 --> 02:18:13.479 or at least if they did intend to hit that one, they missed, 1909 02:18:15.000 --> 02:18:18.360 because that wasn't directly hit by a plane as far as anybody has ever said, 1910 02:18:20.360 --> 02:18:22.760 so, I'm thinking somebody might have taken it down though, after we've 1911 02:18:22.840 --> 02:18:26.200 had a bunch of holes punched in it, it would make sense to me. 1912 02:18:26.920 --> 02:18:33.799 But there's still too many open questions and there's still too much I think 1913 02:18:33.840 --> 02:18:37.719 that, you know, they wanted to simplify, they wanted to not present 1914 02:18:37.799 --> 02:18:46.079 to the public for different reasons. Maybe I don't know. But your name 1915 02:18:46.280 --> 02:18:56.840 was your name was Reckon. You must respond you must respond started doing well, 1916 02:18:56.879 --> 02:19:00.319 I'm gonna put you on hold real quick, Jimmy James, actually, 1917 02:19:00.319 --> 02:19:03.159 because I think it is time for BP to have something to say, and 1918 02:19:03.200 --> 02:19:05.920 I want him to be able to say it with all of us shut up, 1919 02:19:05.639 --> 02:19:09.520 because you might want to wrap around on a couple of things that were 1920 02:19:09.639 --> 02:19:11.840 brought up. And then I'm gonna let each of you come back on the 1921 02:19:11.920 --> 02:19:15.520 line who is still on the line and say what you got to say in 1922 02:19:15.600 --> 02:19:20.120 closing? How does that sound b P. Good? Yeah, that sounds 1923 02:19:20.200 --> 02:19:26.479 good. When it comes to Building seven, yeah, I'm a firm believer 1924 02:19:26.680 --> 02:19:30.559 that the majority of damage that was done to that building was from the other 1925 02:19:30.639 --> 02:19:35.120 buildings fallen on top of it, and when you look at the way the 1926 02:19:35.280 --> 02:19:39.399 building was constructed. Now, let me first say there were things that were 1927 02:19:39.479 --> 02:19:45.840 supposed to be in that building that apparently weren't because they weren't there when they 1928 02:19:45.879 --> 02:19:50.559 went digging through the rubble and found certain things gone, which means they had 1929 02:19:50.600 --> 02:19:56.200 to be removed at some time. I'm sure some of the chaos that morning 1930 02:19:56.399 --> 02:20:03.680 was individuals in offices that new things we're in there and had to get them 1931 02:20:03.719 --> 02:20:07.120 out, and that was part of the problem. But you know, you 1932 02:20:07.239 --> 02:20:11.040 have a building and fall on top of another building. I know there were 1933 02:20:11.159 --> 02:20:16.600 modifications made to the building over years to handle generators and things like that in 1934 02:20:16.719 --> 02:20:24.440 certain positions, and so there were certain structural different changes made that were load 1935 02:20:24.559 --> 02:20:28.760 varying for the entire building. And it may seem strange that that would be 1936 02:20:28.959 --> 02:20:33.879 done, but a lot of times when you're making modifications to an existing structure, 1937 02:20:35.559 --> 02:20:39.440 you have to come up with some kind of out of the box ways 1938 02:20:39.520 --> 02:20:43.200 to solve the problem, and we find out years later that it wasn't maybe 1939 02:20:43.319 --> 02:20:46.159 the best way to do it, because there are problems, which there are 1940 02:20:46.319 --> 02:20:50.360 failures, there are things that happen, and this is in construction over the 1941 02:20:50.440 --> 02:20:56.239 course of time anywhere in the world. You know, retro fitting a building 1942 02:20:56.280 --> 02:21:01.360 after it's been designed one way and going in and making changes can really affect 1943 02:21:01.440 --> 02:21:05.760 something that you don't find out till later. But that's to the side. 1944 02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:11.319 The building in itself, I think was damaged enough. There are documents. 1945 02:21:11.360 --> 02:21:13.520 I'd have to go look them up. You know, they had engineers out 1946 02:21:13.559 --> 02:21:18.719 there looking at that building from the time that they could the smoke cleared enough 1947 02:21:18.760 --> 02:21:20.600 they could get out there and see what was going on. And they saw 1948 02:21:20.719 --> 02:21:26.440 structural changes to that building over the course of the day. You know, 1949 02:21:26.559 --> 02:21:30.200 they had engineers out there when transits on the things, showing the walls buckling 1950 02:21:30.239 --> 02:21:33.920 and starting to come out, and those are things that are indicative of a 1951 02:21:33.920 --> 02:21:39.639 failure that we saw. You know, we're limited to what we can see 1952 02:21:39.799 --> 02:21:43.079 based on the videos that we've seen from that day. I don't know if 1953 02:21:43.120 --> 02:21:48.360 any that I'm sure there's some videos that the government got a hold of that 1954 02:21:48.639 --> 02:21:52.239 will never see the light of day because they're either showing things that contradict or 1955 02:21:52.280 --> 02:21:56.440 story or showing things that they can't explain. And based on the evidence that 1956 02:21:56.479 --> 02:21:58.840 we have out there, you know, you look at what happened to that 1957 02:22:00.079 --> 02:22:03.920 building, and yes, I firmly believed that that building was brought down because 1958 02:22:05.000 --> 02:22:07.799 of the damage that was done from the other buildings. Right now, you 1959 02:22:07.840 --> 02:22:13.879 know, I'll can back it up with the structural problems that they found, 1960 02:22:15.000 --> 02:22:18.879 the things that they knew were in place before then. You know, take 1961 02:22:18.920 --> 02:22:24.040 it. Take for instance, you know, Juliani's command center was supposed to 1962 02:22:24.120 --> 02:22:28.120 be in that building. Well when all this craft happened, whine hell, 1963 02:22:28.200 --> 02:22:31.799 was nobody there except the people that were there on a daily basis, where 1964 02:22:31.879 --> 02:22:33.920 was Giuliani and the rest of them they should have been in that building. 1965 02:22:35.559 --> 02:22:39.920 A lot of questions about what went all that day. But as for the 1966 02:22:39.959 --> 02:22:43.760 structural fall of the building, I think it was entirely possible based on what 1967 02:22:43.920 --> 02:22:46.920 fell on top of it and around it and through it. Okay, So 1968 02:22:46.000 --> 02:22:50.079 a couple of things, you're just real fast. One with the Giuliani not 1969 02:22:50.280 --> 02:22:54.520 being there, I don't find that to be all that suspect. And I'll 1970 02:22:54.559 --> 02:22:58.840 tell you why, because he was constantly running around the city. I would 1971 02:23:00.440 --> 02:23:05.639 in that city at a certain point where he was mayor too, And yeah, 1972 02:23:05.079 --> 02:23:09.479 that was not crazy for him to not be in a position. He 1973 02:23:09.600 --> 02:23:15.079 was all over the place all the time. By the time all hell starts 1974 02:23:15.120 --> 02:23:20.799 to break loose in the World Trade Center complex. You know, people don't 1975 02:23:20.879 --> 02:23:24.799 necessarily appreciate in other cities. They think they understand traffic. You don't know 1976 02:23:24.920 --> 02:23:28.200 traffic till you lived in New York, Okay, because it's a different situation. 1977 02:23:28.399 --> 02:23:33.920 I assure you. The impossibility of being able to get down there was 1978 02:23:33.120 --> 02:23:41.239 probably you know, already locked for almost anybody real early on. And I 1979 02:23:41.360 --> 02:23:45.200 knew people that told me about it, you know, but they could only 1980 02:23:45.280 --> 02:23:48.440 tell me about what they could see. You know, we didn't have a 1981 02:23:48.479 --> 02:23:52.639 bird's eye view on this that day. Another interesting thing is I had a 1982 02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:56.559 stepfather who had worked in that complex and had told me some stuff. And 1983 02:23:56.559 --> 02:23:58.559 I've asked some people about this, and nobody ever wants to really talk about 1984 02:23:58.600 --> 02:24:03.520 it. But you know, he was an electrical guy who had been all 1985 02:24:03.600 --> 02:24:05.600 up and down in those towers. And to be honest with you, I 1986 02:24:05.639 --> 02:24:13.120 think his heart failure that occurred within like a week or so of nine to 1987 02:24:13.200 --> 02:24:16.200 eleven was due to the fact that he saw that on TV and really felt 1988 02:24:16.239 --> 02:24:20.600 like he had just watched a whole bunch of people he knew die. I 1989 02:24:20.680 --> 02:24:24.959 think it messed him up real bad. He had had to retire because he 1990 02:24:24.040 --> 02:24:30.920 had ended up with meningitis, and it wrecked him as a person, made 1991 02:24:30.959 --> 02:24:35.920 him retire from being an electrical engineer. And he had worked in there a 1992 02:24:37.000 --> 02:24:41.360 bit, and he had talked to me about, you know, different problems 1993 02:24:41.399 --> 02:24:45.920 there were in those buildings, and I often wondered, Look, as much 1994 02:24:45.959 --> 02:24:48.000 as we're told about the plans and how it was supposed to have been built, 1995 02:24:48.520 --> 02:24:54.200 it doesn't mean that everything was done with the utmost best craftsmanship. In 1996 02:24:54.360 --> 02:24:58.879 some cases you gotta and you gotta account for that when you're looking at this 1997 02:24:58.000 --> 02:25:01.360 thing coming down. You know, if they didn't put in certain things the 1998 02:25:01.479 --> 02:25:05.479 right way, or if they didn't construct something even though they had the right 1999 02:25:05.520 --> 02:25:09.120 plan and it should have been consistent one hundred and ten stories high, it 2000 02:25:09.239 --> 02:25:13.200 doesn't mean that it was because maybe the guys who were working on the thirtieth 2001 02:25:13.239 --> 02:25:18.799 floor didn't do their jobs so well, and maybe there were adjustments that were 2002 02:25:18.840 --> 02:25:22.959 made afterwards to deal with that. But nobody ever wants to talk about that, 2003 02:25:24.079 --> 02:25:28.200 because I don't think the records for that are available to everybody. But 2004 02:25:28.280 --> 02:25:31.799 I think it's an interesting question because consistency on a building, it may have 2005 02:25:31.920 --> 02:25:35.120 been absolutely consistent, or it may not have been. I don't know, 2006 02:25:37.040 --> 02:25:41.559 but anyway, I always find it to be an interesting open question. So 2007 02:25:41.440 --> 02:25:45.319 look, putting aside nine to eleven and all that good stuff, I think 2008 02:25:45.360 --> 02:25:48.879 we should get around to everybody's sort of parting comments about what they want to 2009 02:25:48.920 --> 02:25:52.000 say for this week and then be done, because it looks to me like, 2010 02:25:52.120 --> 02:25:54.879 let's see how deep are we here. We're about two and a half 2011 02:25:54.959 --> 02:25:58.879 hours deep, and I think we've given a bunch of things a pretty good 2012 02:25:58.959 --> 02:26:01.559 turn. Hope were at least entertaining. Got a couple of laughs out a 2013 02:26:01.600 --> 02:26:05.040 part of the story that I told earlier, at least about you know, 2014 02:26:05.120 --> 02:26:09.959 look, isolate the thing about being at the Jersey Shore and think about all 2015 02:26:09.000 --> 02:26:13.360 that. You know, I mean, your experiences may vary, but I 2016 02:26:13.559 --> 02:26:16.280 can only identify what I known. As I said, you know, I've 2017 02:26:16.319 --> 02:26:20.559 heard about that sort of comment being made on other TV shows and other places 2018 02:26:20.639 --> 02:26:24.479 and everything else, and I don't know, I shouldn't think it was that 2019 02:26:24.559 --> 02:26:28.760 big a deal. But then again, I don't necessarily understand how things went 2020 02:26:28.959 --> 02:26:33.440 the way they did entirely. Well, it wasn't your vagina. The sand 2021 02:26:33.600 --> 02:26:37.280 was in, so you got to look at it from that point. As 2022 02:26:37.360 --> 02:26:39.079 I said, I was more accustomed to the idea than I could just go 2023 02:26:39.200 --> 02:26:43.280 in the sink and wash off. But you know, anyway, but you 2024 02:26:43.360 --> 02:26:46.840 know, normally we've just brushed it off. We don't have to find water. 2025 02:26:48.680 --> 02:26:52.239 You know, well I needed water. I don't know why. Look 2026 02:26:52.440 --> 02:26:56.440 might have just been anyway. I don't want to get too graphic because missus 2027 02:26:56.520 --> 02:26:58.920 I was listening, and although we may have both had experiences under the board 2028 02:27:00.040 --> 02:27:01.200 walk, it wasn't with each other by the time we met. We were 2029 02:27:01.239 --> 02:27:05.319 old enough we didn't go and need to do that. But you know, 2030 02:27:05.719 --> 02:27:07.879 if we had met as teenagers, we might end it up under the boardwalk 2031 02:27:07.959 --> 02:27:11.920 together. So it's funny how low cases has changed. Would you become of 2032 02:27:13.000 --> 02:27:16.000 age enough that you can rent a hotel room? Yeah, well, you 2033 02:27:16.079 --> 02:27:18.000 know that you got more access to transportation, you got a little more money, 2034 02:27:18.000 --> 02:27:20.280 you got your own place. You know, you don't live with mom 2035 02:27:20.360 --> 02:27:24.760 anymore. I mean, if you don't live with mom and you got a 2036 02:27:24.799 --> 02:27:26.040 little bit of money and you got a little bit of you know, a 2037 02:27:26.120 --> 02:27:30.600 little bit of game, you could end up in a lot of better places. 2038 02:27:30.719 --> 02:27:33.079 But you know, when you're fifteen, you're getting active. I mean, 2039 02:27:35.319 --> 02:27:39.239 you work with what you got. Anyways, boardwalk's not a bad place, 2040 02:27:39.319 --> 02:27:41.200 and it does stay cool under there in the bright, bright sun on 2041 02:27:41.280 --> 02:27:43.959 the Jersey shore. Anyway, I don't know. Again, it might be 2042 02:27:45.040 --> 02:27:48.159 different in Florida, North Carolina. I have been under the boardwalk in North 2043 02:27:48.239 --> 02:27:52.280 Carolina, but not for that reason. And California I was under the boardwalk, 2044 02:27:52.319 --> 02:27:56.760 but by myself briefly. But in Jersey I know how it works, 2045 02:27:58.280 --> 02:28:01.559 so that's why I spoke to it. Any ways, let's see, should 2046 02:28:01.559 --> 02:28:05.280 we go in order and let everybody get their final word in I'll save you 2047 02:28:05.399 --> 02:28:11.079 for last VP? Does that cool? Sure? Alrighty, so let's go 2048 02:28:11.479 --> 02:28:16.319 first on over to Jimmy James and parting shot man. Not a full five 2049 02:28:16.399 --> 02:28:24.399 minutes, but you know, say what you want? Yeah, well, 2050 02:28:24.680 --> 02:28:31.719 I ton am I supposed to? Uh? Maybe I should? Oh what 2051 02:28:31.879 --> 02:28:35.920 the heppen? I fully intend to go to Dallas? Cool? Hopefully that 2052 02:28:37.120 --> 02:28:46.760 does it fit dissuade to other people from going? Maybe maybe I should have 2053 02:28:46.879 --> 02:28:50.520 kept that closer to the vest I don't know. No, that's okay. 2054 02:28:50.600 --> 02:28:52.959 You know what, join us, join us in the breakout room, and 2055 02:28:54.399 --> 02:28:56.520 you know you might end up signing an autograph. This is the guy who 2056 02:28:56.680 --> 02:29:03.360 calls every show we have, is the Ocelli dot com caller. Jimmy James 2057 02:29:03.920 --> 02:29:09.840 calls everybody, whether it's Jack Blood or Chris Graves or any other former host 2058 02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:15.399 uh, Donald Jeffries, you know whatever, everybody. This is the guy 2059 02:29:15.440 --> 02:29:18.120 who calls your show if you get it, if you work on the network. 2060 02:29:20.280 --> 02:29:26.079 So maybe you signed some autographs. Who knows? Rasier things have had 2061 02:29:26.559 --> 02:29:35.319 true? Oh and another uh odd, it may sound out to you. 2062 02:29:35.600 --> 02:29:41.639 But I happen to know from listening to her shows that Maria Heller is also 2063 02:29:41.959 --> 02:29:48.479 not, unlike myself, a fan of Amos and Andy, and she would 2064 02:29:48.559 --> 02:29:52.440 be up to it. I would, And if you're up to it, 2065 02:29:52.559 --> 02:30:00.040 I'd like to record a show on Matt Well, just on the show and 2066 02:30:00.120 --> 02:30:05.520 out and there would be a look. I'll run it by Maria because I 2067 02:30:05.600 --> 02:30:07.479 get together where here at least twice a month to do Hell and high Water. 2068 02:30:07.680 --> 02:30:11.200 But uh, you know, it's more likely I'll be able to talk 2069 02:30:11.239 --> 02:30:18.079 to her about Amos and Andy because she's getting really unhappy with bringing in anybody 2070 02:30:18.159 --> 02:30:20.239 new to talk to on her show anymore. To be honest with you, 2071 02:30:22.559 --> 02:30:28.399 so oh, I'm like an extracurricular thing on something that I'm gonna do down 2072 02:30:28.520 --> 02:30:33.239 the road. I just want to get I just know that she likes it 2073 02:30:33.280 --> 02:30:35.479 and I wanted to get her thoughts on it. Well, I can just 2074 02:30:35.680 --> 02:30:41.360 us TV show that get that is just say okay, you know what I'm 2075 02:30:41.360 --> 02:30:43.159 gonna do. I'm gonna make a note about it and make sure that at 2076 02:30:43.200 --> 02:30:46.600 the very least I get something recorded for you that has to do with it. 2077 02:30:46.920 --> 02:30:52.840 I'll get her talking about Amos and Andy Okay, TV show all right, 2078 02:30:52.920 --> 02:30:56.360 because I spec he's a fan and a point out that everyone there's a 2079 02:30:56.479 --> 02:31:03.680 big difference between what was the radio show and those awful cartoons, totally different 2080 02:31:03.760 --> 02:31:07.879 from what the television show was, and it's a shame it got canceled. 2081 02:31:09.040 --> 02:31:13.399 And I suspect seekers with me. And I'd like to get John Barber's opinion 2082 02:31:13.520 --> 02:31:20.479 on that too, because well, he's a genius and comedic and he knows 2083 02:31:20.520 --> 02:31:24.920 how much that sets people back. Sure, look, and I will see 2084 02:31:24.959 --> 02:31:28.440 what I can do about talking to John. I'm not sure if John is 2085 02:31:28.479 --> 02:31:31.159 still willing to talk to me, you know, given some of the things 2086 02:31:31.200 --> 02:31:37.559 I've heard recently, but I will do my best to address that with John 2087 02:31:37.639 --> 02:31:45.879 too and anyone interested. I mean, it's just I don't know. It's 2088 02:31:46.079 --> 02:31:52.559 just something I'm interested in and wanted to do something with. How about this. 2089 02:31:52.000 --> 02:31:56.520 I will make it a point to mention Amos and Andy to any media 2090 02:31:56.639 --> 02:32:00.239 creator that I get my hands on and see what they think. And I'll 2091 02:32:00.239 --> 02:32:01.559 make that just part of something I do for a little while. How's that 2092 02:32:01.680 --> 02:32:09.000 sound? Sure? There you go, So, Jimmy, I'm gonna move 2093 02:32:09.040 --> 02:32:16.479 on to everybody else. You're good Yeah, everyone to have a good weekend, 2094 02:32:18.719 --> 02:32:22.280 more people show up front the SOOD. He wants more callers, absolutely, 2095 02:32:22.399 --> 02:32:26.280 look more callers for all the shows that take calls, which is now 2096 02:32:26.399 --> 02:32:28.159 all the shows on the network. We're all going to be taking calls at 2097 02:32:28.200 --> 02:32:33.799 certain times, and I would do more nights with calls if I got more 2098 02:32:33.840 --> 02:32:37.079 callers. To be honest with you, so you know what, if you're 2099 02:32:37.120 --> 02:32:41.280 hearing this and you want to join in on the discussion, please do not 2100 02:32:41.440 --> 02:32:45.639 tonight because we're almost done, but any night that we're taking calls, and 2101 02:32:46.120 --> 02:32:48.600 always on Sundays, always on Fridays. But I'd be willing to expand it 2102 02:32:48.680 --> 02:32:54.239 more and make this a caller driven situation a whole lot more often if I 2103 02:32:54.360 --> 02:32:58.959 got more participation. Lots of people tell me they would call, and hopefully 2104 02:32:58.079 --> 02:33:03.319 the new format helps with that, but I guess it'll remain to be seen. 2105 02:33:03.399 --> 02:33:07.159 So with that, I'll now go to Harland and let him get in 2106 02:33:07.239 --> 02:33:16.079 his final words for the week. Yeah, well, I'm just trying to 2107 02:33:16.200 --> 02:33:20.520 leave. I think you know, I got the lightest bial weapon or got 2108 02:33:20.639 --> 02:33:24.079 something this week. But I'm feeling better now. That sucks, I hope. 2109 02:33:24.239 --> 02:33:28.639 Yeah, Man waved out on the phone share wires a few times. 2110 02:33:28.799 --> 02:33:33.920 Yeah, we can bite a show out of that. Well, hey, 2111 02:33:35.040 --> 02:33:39.360 look, I feel bad for anybody who's feeling bad. It seems to me 2112 02:33:39.520 --> 02:33:43.760 like everybody I know has gone through some sort of health issue recently. Uh, 2113 02:33:43.120 --> 02:33:46.799 you know, even even people that haven't been on the show in a 2114 02:33:46.840 --> 02:33:50.120 bit, I've been talking to that are going through stuff. And look, 2115 02:33:50.239 --> 02:33:54.520 I hope we all survive together one way or another. So glad to hear 2116 02:33:54.559 --> 02:34:00.200 you're already on the mend though, Harland, that's good. Yeah. Uh, 2117 02:34:01.639 --> 02:34:03.520 I'm still coughing a little bit, but I never did really have much 2118 02:34:03.600 --> 02:34:07.799 respiratory problems. But I's got some feeling real bad other day, just out 2119 02:34:07.840 --> 02:34:15.040 of the blue. And co worker in the office he basically he's been hitting 2120 02:34:15.440 --> 02:34:20.120 struck down with COVID again, according to what the testers I said. And 2121 02:34:20.559 --> 02:34:26.280 I don't know there's something going around over in that area or what it. 2122 02:34:26.639 --> 02:34:31.040 Maybe the next I hope everybody has, you know, a good weekend though, 2123 02:34:31.399 --> 02:34:33.440 Well, I hope maybe you know, down the roads, you know, 2124 02:34:33.639 --> 02:34:41.520 from people's emotions can be you know, kind of put back in place 2125 02:34:41.760 --> 02:34:48.559 and maybe folks can you know, men's brow convinces that mate, see everybody 2126 02:34:48.639 --> 02:34:52.520 else kind of had a little filing out here and stuff. We'll trying to 2127 02:34:52.559 --> 02:34:56.399 see you guys next time. I'm glad man Jimmy got to agree on something, 2128 02:34:56.000 --> 02:35:01.239 you know, exactly for once I figured we would. Well, you 2129 02:35:01.319 --> 02:35:05.319 know, sometimes you gotta agree that water's wet, Harlan, What can I 2130 02:35:05.440 --> 02:35:07.319 say? And I thank you for calling in, thank you for your sentiments, 2131 02:35:09.239 --> 02:35:11.920 Appreciate you. And you're gonna have to send me that email and let 2132 02:35:11.959 --> 02:35:15.840 me know when it is you're ready for me to send that out as soon 2133 02:35:15.879 --> 02:35:18.799 as I get the vehicle back on the road, which I'm hoping to do 2134 02:35:18.879 --> 02:35:24.799 in the next two weeks. You know, I'll definitely get it right out 2135 02:35:24.840 --> 02:35:28.559 to you as soon as you say. But that's one of the packages that 2136 02:35:28.600 --> 02:35:33.079 needs to go out and we're gonna we're gonna take care of that. But 2137 02:35:33.559 --> 02:35:39.399 in the meantime, I appreciate you. I don't think that well, you 2138 02:35:39.479 --> 02:35:43.840 know what, I'll keep that to myself advance. I'm gonna go to you 2139 02:35:43.040 --> 02:35:48.840 and let you get your final thought for the week. Go ahead. Just 2140 02:35:50.760 --> 02:35:54.520 I guess it was pretty good show tonight, As Hardon said, too bad 2141 02:35:54.600 --> 02:36:00.639 for Vito. The drama and stuff. We'll get test that, you know, 2142 02:36:00.959 --> 02:36:03.680 it will be the last time if somebody you know gets into I mean, 2143 02:36:05.719 --> 02:36:09.159 disagreements are common in these types of debates. I get in disagreements all 2144 02:36:09.200 --> 02:36:13.200 the time, but you know, it very rarely ever comes to you know, 2145 02:36:13.319 --> 02:36:16.239 any of that, But there are occasions where you know it does you 2146 02:36:16.319 --> 02:36:18.479 know, get to that and all as you can do at that point is 2147 02:36:20.040 --> 02:36:24.680 all you can do to you know, diffuse the situation. If that doesn't 2148 02:36:24.680 --> 02:36:26.200 work, well, then I guess you just don't you know, you don't 2149 02:36:26.200 --> 02:36:30.680 discuss stuff with them anymore. And that's kind of the relationship I got with. 2150 02:36:31.920 --> 02:36:33.760 There's not a whole lot of people I have that relationship with, actually, 2151 02:36:33.840 --> 02:36:39.159 but I've got dis heated discussions with people though were you know, like 2152 02:36:39.280 --> 02:36:43.520 I've said before, my buddy Jack, uh, he's one of my best 2153 02:36:43.559 --> 02:36:45.879 friends. Like at one point it was going to punch me if I kept 2154 02:36:45.959 --> 02:36:48.440 you know, He's like if you say, if you if you don't shut 2155 02:36:48.559 --> 02:36:50.360 up, I'm going to punch you, you know, and you know, 2156 02:36:50.600 --> 02:36:52.719 but he ain't never gonna punch me. You know. It's all good, 2157 02:36:52.840 --> 02:36:58.239 But but enjoy talking to y'all. Look forward to next time and talking you 2158 02:36:58.319 --> 02:37:03.440 know, none less in their MAUI or whatever. Hey, absolutely, man, 2159 02:37:03.600 --> 02:37:05.440 it's always good to hear from you, and I want to thank you 2160 02:37:05.559 --> 02:37:09.440 for being here and your thoughts and all that. And let's see, I 2161 02:37:09.479 --> 02:37:13.079 think i'm putting you on hold. I did, all right. So with 2162 02:37:13.239 --> 02:37:18.959 all that being said, I've already talked enough tonight, So BP, it's 2163 02:37:18.040 --> 02:37:24.559 your turn, and we're gonna let you close it on out. But yeah, 2164 02:37:24.600 --> 02:37:28.719 I'm really looking forward to Dallas, I gotta tell you, And I'm 2165 02:37:28.799 --> 02:37:31.440 looking forward to the direction things are about to go in. I think it's 2166 02:37:31.440 --> 02:37:37.239 gonna be it's gonna be interesting, different. Not gonna be bringing on anymore 2167 02:37:37.399 --> 02:37:41.959 shows for a little bit because I'm gonna be occupied with some other things and 2168 02:37:43.200 --> 02:37:48.000 hopefully there'll be some recordings, some other promotional things going on, et cetera, 2169 02:37:48.079 --> 02:37:56.000 et cetera. My attempts to get things archived properly are apparently going sideways. 2170 02:37:56.239 --> 02:37:58.920 But I'm still gonna get the magic bullets together. That's happening one way 2171 02:38:00.120 --> 02:38:03.079 or another, by hook or by crook. Baby, I'm getting that done 2172 02:38:03.079 --> 02:38:05.079 because I'm gonna put out ten years of the archive and I'm gonna get it 2173 02:38:05.120 --> 02:38:09.399 into some people's hands one way or another, and I'm definitely gonna bring some 2174 02:38:09.479 --> 02:38:13.239 of those to Dallas along with other things. And who knows, maybe I'll 2175 02:38:13.319 --> 02:38:20.079 just stop over by the Greyhound station and then hand out some swag to some 2176 02:38:20.200 --> 02:38:24.879 of the homeless guys over there. I don't know, I got thoughts anyways, 2177 02:38:24.319 --> 02:38:28.440 who knows. If nobody wants my crap, that's fine too. And 2178 02:38:28.680 --> 02:38:31.280 if nobody wants to show it all, it'll go away. It'll just happen 2179 02:38:31.360 --> 02:38:37.440 that way. But if not, stick around, stay tuned. I'm gonna 2180 02:38:37.440 --> 02:38:39.399 do it as long as I can. And that's the way it goes. 2181 02:38:39.600 --> 02:38:46.440 B Pete, what's on your mind to close it out? Well, No, 2182 02:38:46.520 --> 02:38:50.799 I appreciate everybody calling in to night. You know, we do have 2183 02:38:50.920 --> 02:38:54.959 a regular group that participates in the program, and that's a good thing. 2184 02:38:56.040 --> 02:38:58.760 And I'm glad that we have these individuals out there, and it's good to 2185 02:38:58.799 --> 02:39:01.680 hear from them. I guess a great ideas and it's nice to be able 2186 02:39:01.719 --> 02:39:05.399 to kick it around. Let's see if we can come up with a consensus. 2187 02:39:05.559 --> 02:39:11.719 Other than that, I wish everybody a great weekend. It's Labor days. 2188 02:39:11.760 --> 02:39:16.239 Celebrate your labor. You know, I've never been pregnant, but I 2189 02:39:16.360 --> 02:39:20.000 hear, it's a wonderful thing. So you know, unless you're getting it 2190 02:39:20.040 --> 02:39:24.479 done necessary and you're going to go through the process. But I'm a firm, 2191 02:39:24.280 --> 02:39:28.079 firm fan of Labor Day. All you women that have gone through it, 2192 02:39:28.200 --> 02:39:30.680 excuse me, all you birthing people that have gone through it, then 2193 02:39:31.000 --> 02:39:35.879 you know, enjoy it. But other than that, you know the direction 2194 02:39:35.920 --> 02:39:41.159 of the show, we make the changes accordingly. I'm looking forward to going 2195 02:39:41.239 --> 02:39:43.799 to Dallas. That's going to be a great road trip. I don't know 2196 02:39:43.879 --> 02:39:46.360 what the end result is going to be, but we'll set up things for 2197 02:39:46.559 --> 02:39:50.920 our bail account if we need it, so that we can put that in 2198 02:39:50.040 --> 02:39:54.159 motion if we find out we're down there and have to post bail for anything 2199 02:39:54.399 --> 02:39:58.040 other than that or looking forward to next week, do you guys come on 2200 02:39:58.159 --> 02:40:01.399 back, put the word out there, get your get your friends and acquaintances 2201 02:40:01.479 --> 02:40:07.479 to call in. The subject's wide open on Friday, so we'll start discussing 2202 02:40:07.559 --> 02:40:11.040 all sorts of stuff. So there you have it. I'm looking forward to 2203 02:40:11.120 --> 02:40:15.600 Dallas as well. And as I said already fifteen times, I know I 2204 02:40:15.719 --> 02:40:18.799 keep repeating myself, but I think we're gonna have some fun and uh yeah, 2205 02:40:20.120 --> 02:40:22.000 there might be a need for bail at some point. I guess we'll 2206 02:40:22.040 --> 02:40:26.840 just have to see. So, no matter who you are, where you 2207 02:40:26.920 --> 02:40:30.559 are, when you are, I want you to remember I'm merely o'celly, 2208 02:40:30.639 --> 02:40:54.280 and all of you or d the effects I'm match this girl, I'm not. 2209 02:40:56.719 --> 02:41:22.520 You will see that you are the loveina. I am got a restarting 2210 02:41:22.600 --> 02:41:26.200 heart. When you're senior drilling strutting. From now on, you will speak 2211 02:41:26.360 --> 02:41:31.520 only when spoken too, and the first the last words out of your filthy 2212 02:41:31.600 --> 02:41:35.719 sewers will be sir. They you maggots, understand that you are the lord 2213 02:41:35.840 --> 02:41:39.079 bar of life on earth. You are not even coming fucking big. You 2214 02:41:39.200 --> 02:41:45.559 are nothing but an organized, gravastic pieces of a fenney and ship. Because 2215 02:41:45.639 --> 02:41:48.239 I am hard, you will not like me. But the more you hate 2216 02:41:48.280 --> 02:41:52.280 me, the more you will learn. I am hard, but I am 2217 02:41:52.479 --> 02:41:56.120 fair. There is no racial bigotry here. Can you expressed? My callers, 2218 02:41:56.159 --> 02:41:58.280 tools or anyone else who happens to get on the air. It's really 2219 02:41:58.319 --> 02:42:01.799 not coffee about. Sincerely reflect views of ochelli dot com or check ochelly, 2220 02:42:01.879 --> 02:42:05.799 and we are not responsible for any stupidity which might ensue. Thank you,