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This is I on the Ball with Steve

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Rovera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to

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I on the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's

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Jay, and I'm hoping Jave has
some breaking news. This is Eye on

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the Ball, breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. All right, with

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just one game left in the college
football season, obviously, you know Michigan,

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Michigan and Washington Monday, a lot
of activity both in the transfer portal

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as well as players declaring for the
NFL today. Tyler McLaughlin, the tight

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end at Arizona. He's got another
players still have the one year of free

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ouchability from the COVID year. He's
got your your eligibility left. But he's

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declared for the NFL rightfully. So
had a great year, a lot of

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attention and I really liked him a
lot. Yeah, like him a lot.

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The good thing is good for you, good luck and all that because

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they have Benett was at our guy
that we talked to, the Dad Burnett,

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Chester Burnett, Chester Burnette and a
good stock coming in right and actually

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Chester Burnett went on on Twitter today
and thank you and thanked him for everything

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that he did for his kid,
said he was he was a great mentor

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feels like his kid. You know. Uh, Kyl learned a lot about

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about kind of key on his learned
a lot from from Aclachlin, you know

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what. And that opens the door
for for him to, you know,

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to to have a chance to make
an impact next year. Look, you

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know, guys like a door on. Jacob Cowing also announced today he's you

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know, he's going into the draft. He could I think he could stand

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another maybe not Jacob Cowan. Jacob
Cown Oh yeah, yeah, of course,

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you know. Yeah, here's time. What else do you need to

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prove? Exactly. So, so
those two guys are to open the door

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for another guy to come back.
Yeh, it's I can't help it be

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a jerk about this. And then
I would say, no, you can't

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come back. The door's locked.
You broke up with me, and now

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you want you want to come back. It out of here, And I'm

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saying, Dorian, come on back. We know that you wanted to date

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that cute girl. Didn't turn out
well, did it? Yeah? Exactly?

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Okay, A couple of oh wait, one more, one more player

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that's going in going into the draft. Uh the Jonathan Brooks are running back

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from from Texas towards a cl in
November. He's not going to take any

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more chances about geting hurt in college. He's uh No, mal Kuiper has

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him as his top ranked available tailback, so he's going into the draft.

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A really good player missed at the
end of the season with that injury.

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As far as the transfer portal goes, we saw that Malachi Nelson, who

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was the top rated quarterback last year, uh well, two years ago,

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went over to USC under Lincoln Riley, who had recruited him to Oklahoma.

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On Lincoln Riley take the job at
USC. He he went to he went

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to US. He jumped into the
transfer portal. Now they're saying he's going

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to What do you think about?
No, no, no, no,

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no, you got you got to
lower your standard way man, I don't

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know. Well, there is a
Peter principle involved in a lot of this.

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Right, if you're not good enough
to play here and you reach your

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level of competence or whatever, you
end up at Boise State and maybe you'll

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turn into but you know, that's
kind of what the transfer portal does,

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right, You kind of reach a
level of how good you're going to play

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if you and you want to play
right away. If there's one thing I've

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learned in this business, Okay,
what's the number one? They think they're

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coming to school for to play?
Play to play. It's not about education.

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Money is being in there, and
now I know now money yeah right,

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No, that wasn't the case when
we covered the teams. Now it's

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the case where where can I go
play? And where can I get the

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bag? And then one more again, another one of those head scratchers.

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Quinn Shawn Judkins running back in Old
miss He is it all SEC players this

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year. He was at last year's
SEC Freshman of the Year. In two

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years, he's rushed for twenty seven
hundred yards thirty four touchdowns and he's jumping

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into the portal. Wow, that's
a huge career too. Yeah, twenty

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seven hundred yards into into two years. He's got he's gonna you know,

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he's got as is anybody happy?
What are they looking for? Right?

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Nobody? Oh, it's not like
Old Misses some crap program. No,

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where he's gonna where he's not getting
visibility and those kinds of things. There

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was a player just uh, I
think he's a receiver alignment at Florida.

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Who is going to Georgia now going
to the rival. And it's like,

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these guys, what are they looking
for that picnic? That picnic is gonna

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be different now right? Yeah,
no, no one's happy. I guess

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they always see the greener, greener
grass. Blah blah blah. Yeah,

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it's nuts, it's really nuts,
all right. Okay's some twenty twenty four

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hes been betting odds are out,
Benny nuts. Ye, okay, there's

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a there's three guys that our favorites. One of them I don't your note.

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I think he's the Neohio state quarterback, but Quinn yours, Jalen Milroe

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Carson Beck are the three favorites.
But down here on the list in about

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I think twelfth place. So there's
one Noah Fafida, which four thousand plus

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four thousand, and then a little
further down the list, not not a

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lot further down the list, but
a little further down the list, you

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gotta Jaya Roy McMillan, and he's
about five thousand, seventy five hundred.

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I would i would bet ten bucks
or twenty bucks on that. That gets

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you some pretty good, pretty good
the news, the breaking news on that

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that there's two Arizona guys on the
high school. No, that's very that

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crazy. When was that ever?
When was the last time that ever happened?

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Never? Ever, never, That
is breaking, never, never,

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huge breaking is that those are on
on our our buddies over at fanduels.

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So those just came out today.
No, that's a that's that's good.

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Interesting. Well, now you have
people we hadn't talked to NFL with UA

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football in forever. Yeah, and
now we're talking the NFL exactly. Another

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ranking that came out in the last
couple of days is ESPN's top one hundred

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players. Yeah of twenty twenty three. Yeah, Arizona has a guy at

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number thirty one in Noah Fafida.
Yeah, we'll get back. There's a

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guy missing from the list, and
Arizona fans have lost their And we'll talk

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to Michael Love about that, because
he's tweeted about this already, right,

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because everyone bags out of ESPN.
Yeah, but they hate us. Yeah,

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well that I yes, that's where
I got this. I followed that

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that discussion where people are saying ESPN
hates Arizona. They don't think about Arizona.

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There's a difference. They don't hate, they don't think about him.

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Where's Arizona? Have you ever been
to all forty nine states? You know?

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No? No, no, did
you get my point exactly? Yeah,

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Arizona, no one exists. We
don't belong to the union. Yeah,

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and Arizona was what the forty ninths
or forty eight state? So you

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know, look, that's fine,
that's fine. Yeah, it's yeah,

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because it was he one of the
top one hundred players. Of course,

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of course, of course he was. You know, there's there's something they

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were comparing other receiver stats to this, and you know he's got the stats

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and stuff like that. But again, no, they're not intentionally ignoring airs

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Arizona. They just don't think about
it and they just don't watch Pennix play.

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I'm still mad. I'm still mad
about that. Here's my finger.

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And I don't know why I'm so
mad about a guy who not even from

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Arizona. But again, maybe it's
because because they called this at the beginning

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of and he never did anything.
I thought to lose the heist because at

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one point you had it came true. Yeah, that was right once and

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I the people won't agree with all
rights. Some very funny not very funny,

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interesting discussion. Oh wait, let
me go one more time, one

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more sort of a rainy Two four
seven Sports came out with five teams who

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could be next to kick the door
down in the twenty twenty four twenty twenty

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five season being football, with five
teams with national championship potential. The reason

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I'm bringing this up is because Arizona, Arizona is one of the fives.

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Well they could be. Well there
can be a top ten team next year.

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Yeah. That they've got these five
teams that you know, it says,

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twenty twenty four candidates right with national
championship potential. According to Brad Crawford

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from two four seven Sports, he
lists Missouri, Arizona, Ole, miss

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Oregon, and Tennessee. And they've
always kind of been kind of not always

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but uh those are names, yeah, except for Arizona long term Missouri.

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So did you did you? I
know you haven't talked about you had to

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have read. It came out last
week. I guess why you were on

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the road the athletics Blue Blood Series. No, it was fantastic basketball fantastic

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because because they had like four or
five writers talked about the blue bloods in

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basketball are discussion to a t and
they had to go back and do it.

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Oh miya coupla kind of because they
forgot, you know, they so

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it was. It was very good. Go go read it. Dan O'Neil's

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part of it. And it's a
group. I think it hits to my

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point because they have like six teams. They're the blue bloods, but the

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next up and comers Arizona. But
there's a lot of there's stuff to work

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work on. Go go read and
we can talk about it when you read.

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I love it, but it's maybe
a week ago. Okay, I

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voted that I was busy Land Athletics
on my radar. All right, Big

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big news in the n C Double
A with the with their the NT Double

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A and ESPN signed a nine twenty
million dollar eight year deal for ESPN for

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rights to forty championship events, including
uh Division one women's basketball, the women's

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basketball tournaments being valued at being worth
sixty five million of that. It's a

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big deal in that there's a lot
of people saying, you know, women's

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a women's particularly basketball, is starting
to get, you know, the attention

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it deserves from a financial standpoint.
Look, it's still based on who's gonna

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watch, right, That's that's what
That's what ESPN is paying for. But

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it's a it's about one hundred and
fifty million dollars a year that they're paying

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for, uh these sports, including
you know, softball, you know,

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all kinds of other stuff, but
women's basketball obviously is sort of thing because

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remember, and men's basketball doesn't.
Uh is A is a CBS Probert Yeah,

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and then right now is strike while
you're hot, right, because the

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women's team with Kaitlyn you just see
the shots. Yeah, Yeah, she's

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Steph Curry. She's Steff carry Out. I mean, unbelievable step back three

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from the logo to win a game. I'm crazy, crazy, crazy.

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She can play anyway. All Right, So that's a that's the big news

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coming out of DNC double A.
All right, the Rose Bowl as a

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venue, there's been the topic of
a whole bunch of discussions last couple of

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days. Yeah, you've got you've
got Kirk Curbs Street came out and said

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he thinks that the National Championship Game
should be played at the Rose Bowl every

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year. Just make it the national
whether you call it the Rose Bowl or

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that's just where you have it,
sure, but that's where the game should

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be every year. Obviously, you
know, people in New Orleans and Dallas

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and Houston this year and wherever gonna
say the hell with that. You know,

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we we want it around, but
that as a venue, there's no

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better venue for the game. At
the same time, stephen A. Smith

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comes out and says they should move
the Rose Bowl game from the Rose Bowl

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over to Sofar because the traffic is
so bad about around the Rose Bowl.

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I'm like, so you're inconvenienced by
the traffic, so let's kill one hundred

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and some years of tradition because you
don't want to deal with it with the

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traffic. He's been obliterated on social
media for saying that, and what just

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a stupid thing it was for him
to say. But that's stephen A.

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Smith's stick. He's say stuff like
that. But you know, the whole

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idea of locking in on the Rose
Bowl and I don't know, like I

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said, nobody said, you'll still
call it. You know, the National

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Championship game will be called the Rose
Bowl. I hope that doesn't happen,

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because what I'm looking at is if
Arizona can win a Big twelve championship and

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get in a bracket where they can
play in the Rose Bowl, that's the

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only shot I got to get to
a rose Bult before I kick. No,

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No, it's going ticking fast.
But lot you know, but a

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lot of a lot of conversation of
that. Chris Vanini has talked a lot

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from the athletic has done a couple
of a couple of calms about that,

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you know, and are are you're
saying? He called he compared the Rose

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Bowl the game or the rosebu to
the Masters. It's just like one place

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that's that you just there's a mystique
to it, which there is, there

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is. But then again, you
hear people were pissed off at the fact

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that the Rose Bull won't move from
its time slot, which made the National

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champion and the other semi final game
on Sunday and at one o'clock in the

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morning Eastern time. If people are
pissed about that, and they're pissed at

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the rose Ball because of that,
Yeah, so just a lot of discussion

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about the Rods. Well, I
would assume I would assume that. Well,

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I guess they could play it at
night at Rosebull, but it's so

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beautiful during the day it is.
It's such a cool place. I don't

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know if you've ever ever been to
a game, it could be a u

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c. L A game or a
Rosebull or whatever, and going to see

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a game at the Rose Bull there's
nothing else like it. I've not gone

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to a rose Bult because I don't
want to go to a Rose Bold until

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Arizona gets into a Rose Bold,
which may never happen. But well,

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the tribucket list exactly exactly, all
right, So that's that's what we got,

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Steve. Okay, No, that's
good timing. We got about a

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minute. Let's just go and then
get ahold of Michael left Michael, we'll

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get get his last takes on on
the Arizona on on the ALBUMO Ball,

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and maybe talk a little basketball with
him, see if he's got some some

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things that he wants to say about
this game going in tonight. He is,

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after all, the columns, not
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He's Jacobs Austin. Now on the phone,

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we have I was on a Daily
Star columnist Michael lev Michael how are

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you. I'm doing fine. How
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as well. That we haven't talked
to you in a while, or at

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least the big game of San Antonio. What were your impressions from that game?

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Well, it was kind of like
two games, right. The first

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quarter and the fourth quarter were controlled
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were controlled by the Sooners. I
think the absence of Jordan Morgan was a

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bigger factor than a lot of people
thought it would be. Oklahoma really was

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able to affect the quarterback and made
away, especially in the middle of that

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game. And you know, if
it weren't for the heroics of Dalton Johnson

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and Gunner Maldonado, Arizona probably would
have lost because they were on the ropes.

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They were down already two scores.
Oklahoma was driving, and then those

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two teamed up to make you know, one of the iconic plays in Arizona

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football history, right, I mean, that's got to be. That's got

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to be a top ten all time
play. I would think, considering the

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stakes, the situation, you know, the difference between a nine win season

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and a ten win season, all
of that stuff. So you know,

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you just mentioned it a ten win
season. Obviously shocked the hell out of

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everybody. I'm sure shocked. You
shocked me, I know, a shock

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Steve because he thought they were only
gonna get five. But you know,

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how does that carry into you know, next year? I mean you hang

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your hat on something great like that
for Arizona, which you know people talk

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about, Well, Oklahoma's done it
a million times, then their zone's only

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done it now four, But how
can Aarzon to use that going forward?

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Yeah, obviously it's a huge milestone
for the program. It is only the

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fourth time that's ever happened. It
happened a lot sooner than most people expected

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it to happen. Well, the
biggest silver under I think was five right

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coming into the season. I think
I think maybe the initial one might have

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even been four and a half,
maybe a climb to about five and a

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half. I always thought that that
number was too low. I had them

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going seven and five, which would
have been, you know, good progress

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from five and seven the previous year, but obviously made an even bigger leap

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and it gives them a lot of
momentum and buzz heading into next season,

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going into a winnable conference in the
Big twelve. I don't think it's going

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to be a cakewalk by any means. I've mentioned this already elsewhere, but

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the schedule next year, especially the
road games, is kind of tough.

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It's kind of tough. There's they
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games or however many they have when
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you know, winning the Big twelve
is going to be a big challenge,

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but I think it'll be It's an
easier wall to climb than the Pac twelve

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of this year. And they were
extremely competitive in the Fact twelve this year

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against really good competitions. So given
the momentum and given you know how many

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key pieces are coming back, the
program is in really good shape heading into

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next season. But one one last
one last thought on last season, you

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know, being the being the Arizona
fan that I am and that you know,

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the history that I have with this
program, probably wasn't until going into

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the SU game that I thought this
team is really good. When did you

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think that? Or was there a
time that you thought that? When they

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kept winning those games, particularly against
ranked teams. Well, okay, so

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you know they'd be Washington State handily
right the game, right before the Buye.

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I was th was forty four to
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they obliterated them. I mean it
was completely one sided. They were clearly

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the superior team. But I don't
think that that was the that was the

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game that convinced me, because I
feel like Washington State was a little bit

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overrated heading into that and Arizona was
kind of due to win. I would

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say that two game home stretch against
Oregon State and UCLA. They went to

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Totoe. With Oregon State, it
was a really close game against a very

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good team. They came out on
top, and then they were really controlled

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the action against UCLA, A pretty
tough UCLA team. I know they had

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some ups and downs over the course
of the year, but their defense was

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really good good and for them to
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that game relative relatively drama free fashion, that was pretty telling to me.

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I thought they were kind of on
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did you and you talked about it
with Maldonado and the other one other

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one, Justice Johnson, did you
think going into the fourth quarter they had

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a chance at all that game?
I would say, I mean going into

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the fourth quarter. Yes, late
in the third quarter, no, because

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I mean they were in trouble.
It was twenty four to thirteen, and

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worst case scenario really you thought for
Oklahoma and that drive was that they're going

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to get a field goal if you
have twenty seven to thirteen, right,

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And the offense wasn't doing anything,
you know, I mean those of Fido

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was kind of running for his life. They were all out of whack.

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They weren't able to get the ball
to their makers. And then everything changed,

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you know, the whole the tide
of that game changed did a full

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one to eighty when that play happened, and you know, the turnovers kept

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coming and the offense kind of found
its rhythm a little bit. They were

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able to put together one nice,
big scoring drive and they got another turnover

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scored again, and that was that. It was. There weren't a lot

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like that this year either. Really. The Stanford game on the road was

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tough. The Colorado game required a
comeback. But you know, when we

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talk about the term game control,
you know, starting with that Washington State

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game, they were in control of
pretty much every game that they played.

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So it was interesting to watch how
they would respond to uh An adverse situation

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like that. So from where we
said, now you was all that you

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know, covers all these things us
as me as a fan, Steve is

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just a grumpy guy. What you
know, what what should we be keeping

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an eye out for this off season? You know, we as fans have

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been through this thing. You know, they've had three other ten win seasons.

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The next year has not been even
close to what you know, reaching

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you know, the level of expectation
that those seasons created. And so that's

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the kind of thing that I'm sitting
here thinking about, like, how do

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you not how do you not screw
this up so that this isn't just a

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one off? What do you what
do you get an eye out on?

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Yeah, well, I mean the
first thing, of course, is the

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coaching staff. It looks like,
you know, Jetfish is going to be

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around for at least one more season
here, and you know, I think

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in less an NFL team takes a
liking to him and then makes him an

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offer that you can't refuse. That's
I think still a possibility at least and

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not only Jed, but you know, Johnny Manson reportedly has been offered a

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job at Texas as a co defensive
coordinator, intet linebackers, coach. So

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you know, there's those issues that
you have to monitor. I think,

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you know, they've pretty much survived
the transfer portal at this point. You

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know, things change if there are
changes to the coaching staff, that might

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spur some players to leave. But
Jedfish has done a remarkable job in terms

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of retention with both coaches and players. And then you know, like what

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else can they add through the portal? They've addressed some of their needs.

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I was really high on the offensive
line acquisition that they that they made last

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week, you know, getting a
kid from the Phoenix area with four years

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of eligibility still in college, with
a big frame and Alex Deuce. I

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think that was an excellent pickup.
That got a defensive back, two defensive

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back defensive linemen. Would still like
to see them, you know, come

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up with an edge rusher at some
point, maybe a linebacker to add to

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that mix, and also a wide
receiver who can just bring in a little

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bit more experienced than you know,
some of the young guys they have coming

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up through the ranks. But you
know, none of those things are deal

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breakers, you know, as far
as the as adding personnel I mean,

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I think if they went into next
even with the roster that they have today,

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they'd feel pretty good about things.
Okay, you mentioned a wide receiver

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at the end of that list.
Do you knowing Jed? How you know

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him? If Dorian Singer wanted to
come back here, what do you think

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he says or does? Man,
that's such a tough one. I think

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if Dorian wanted to come back and
he was like, hey, you know,

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I I messed up. I should
never have left, you know,

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give me a second chance, I
think Jed would. I think Jed would

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take him back. Personally. He
might go to the team, to the

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votes right, you know, and
be like, hey, what do you

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guys think you know? And I
bet you bet the team would say yes.

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Also if given that choice, I
just don't know really what the status

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of that whole relationship is like if
that is a bridge that has been burned

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and never to be repaired. But
you know, he's obviously a talented player

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who put up huge numbers here,
you know, like Jedfish knows how to

408
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.880
get the best out of him us. He obviously did not I know how

409
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:41.559
to do that. So it would
be interesting to be sure. I don't

410
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.359
think it's likely to happen, but
I don't think we can. No,

411
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.359
I agree with you. I mean, it's not just about Jeff, It's

412
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.319
about the rest of the team.
Yeah, because you know they know they

413
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:55.200
saw a guy, a brother,
Well he broke like I said, he

414
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:59.319
broke up with them, followed the
swimsuit model over to USC and found out

415
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.599
she wasn't so great. You know
that she was on ozempic. What are

416
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:07.359
you talking about, I've the gruppy
guy. So this was the basketball with

417
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.880
Michael. Uh, what were your
thoughts? Well, you were you were

418
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.480
defending you know what, I will
we'll talk another time about defending ESPN with

419
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.359
the teamax stuff. But but basketball, what do you make of that one

420
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:25.240
off? I call it a one
off with Stanford? Well, I am

421
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:30.240
definitely tempted to say it to one
off because Stanford shot the ball so exceptionally

422
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:36.599
well in that game, made sixteen
to three pointers, made over fifty percent

423
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.039
of their three point attempts, just
the kind of thing that rarely, if

424
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:47.480
ever happens in basketball. So it
feels a little bit like a one off

425
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.640
in that regard. But then again, you know, they've lost what three

426
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:55.880
of their last five games, you
know, get some tough opponents, to

427
00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:00.720
be sure, and you didn't expect
them to go unscathed through that of non

428
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.640
conference games. But it's definitely a
little bit worrisome to see that. And

429
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.440
then maybe you wonder a little bit
like, hey, did we overrate this

430
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.720
team? You know, are they
not as good as we thought that they

431
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.599
were when we saw them earlier in
the year tumbling Wisconsin or winning you know,

432
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.880
on the road at Duke. So
you know, this next little stretch

433
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.839
here will provide a good measuring stick. I think Colorado and Utah both quality

434
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:32.599
opponents. Colorado might be a little
dinged up heading into this game tonight,

435
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.920
but I think the upper echelon in
the league. Utah has been one of

436
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:42.599
the surprise teams in the league.
And I think then they go to Washington

437
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:48.480
State, I want to say,
for a one off road game following Saturday,

438
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.559
always toss to go up into the
Pacific Northwest, so an important time

439
00:31:52.599 --> 00:32:00.200
here, I think for them to
kind of re establish their footing and kind

440
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.960
of figure out who they are and
what kind of team they want to be

441
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.480
moving forward. I'll also add this, like it is not unusual over the

442
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:14.079
course of a long basketball teas and
for teams to experience ups and downs,

443
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.440
abs and flows, you know,
whatever you want to call it. And

444
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.799
what you want to do is,
you know, do you want to improve

445
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:27.279
right over the course of the year. And sometimes it takes, you know,

446
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.880
taking a step back in order to
take a couple of steps forward.

447
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.440
And maybe that's kind of what's happening
with them right now. Well let me

448
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.880
ask you this, and again,
you know you're you're not in the locker

449
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.039
room, so you know, you
don't you don't know, but you might

450
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:42.720
have an opinion. Is this team
fragile at all? And by that,

451
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.640
I mean, you know, let's
say they fall behind, you know,

452
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:47.319
ten to two, twelve to two, you know, Colorado, you know,

453
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:51.079
punch them in the face at the
at the start of the game.

454
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:53.480
You think, is that an issue
with this team at all? Do you

455
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:57.839
think, uh, you know,
or are they at a point where if

456
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.839
that's something like that happens that you
know, they can going to the end

457
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:06.160
of the into the toilet again?
I don't think so. I mean,

458
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.079
if you you act at the beginning, you know, was this last game

459
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:13.920
a one off? And if you
want to look at the score and the

460
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.480
way that the game played out,
then, yes, because they were extremely

461
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:22.759
competitive against Purdue, kept kind of
battling back and forth in that game and

462
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:27.000
against Fau as well. I mean, that was a heck and forth.

463
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.519
That was a double overtime one point
loss, you know. I mean,

464
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.640
I was not panicking at all after
they lost that game, even though some

465
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.160
people were pointing out that Fau the
stuff. We lost to a couple,

466
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.240
you know, not so great teams
this year, but that they played that

467
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.079
was a veteran team that played really
well. As the announcers said during the

468
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:49.920
game, it was probably the biggest
regular season game in the history of the

469
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.440
program, you know, so it
was kind of the super Bowl for them.

470
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:58.759
The Stanford game was the only one
where Arizona got down and stayed down

471
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.799
and couldn't catch up. And I
think that that mostly had to do with

472
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:07.119
the fact that that Cardinals just couldn't
miss. No, I'm not worried about

473
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.159
I'm not worried about the wildcatch.
From a character standpoint, I think they

474
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:16.679
need to defend better, They need
to communicate better on defense, and I

475
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:20.320
think, you know, a couple
of guys need to step up their games

476
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.320
a little bit, like Tylan Boswell. I think it's been a kind of

477
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:28.559
a disappointment in his second season,
and Lumar Balo hasn't been quite as efficient

478
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.519
this year as he was last year. So those are a couple of guys

479
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:37.800
that they were really counting on that
to me need to take take a step

480
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.320
forward here for the team to do
the same. One last quick question because

481
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.079
we're running out of time. Did
you go to the press conwence yesterday with

482
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.960
Tommy? I was not there,
No, okay, but you saw it.

483
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.480
I'm sure I'm familiar with what was
said. Yeah, okay, okay,

484
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.599
I say more about the tone.
So you didn't write about it today?

485
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:59.480
Okay? Yeah, So if you
would have written a story today,

486
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:05.599
how would it what would have been? I mean just kind of how feisty

487
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:12.760
and defensive he was. Yeah,
look, I mean our Bruce Pasco was

488
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.840
up there at Stanford where you know, Tommy was like using the term kicked

489
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:23.800
our ass like a two minute span. You know, he's obviously frustrated and

490
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:29.079
that showed after that game, and
I think yesterday was more like, hey,

491
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:34.320
you know, like everyone's bashing a
team and I need to step up

492
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.199
and defend them a little bit and
take some of the fire here. So

493
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:42.159
I think that's really what was going
on in terms of what he said and

494
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.079
how he said it yesterday. More
than anything that was just that was just

495
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:52.559
a coach kind of taking responsibility,
using himself as a shield to protect his

496
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.559
players from criticism. Yeah, okay, I like it. I like it.

497
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.760
Okay, Well, thank you,
professor lev Philosopher Love. We'll see

498
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:07.119
at the game tonight if you're going, yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah,

499
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:08.559
interesting. Well, you know again, I love their you know,

500
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:12.880
their perspectives because they see they see
things we don't see. You know,

501
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.840
well, we all have different views
of what we see. Yeah, absolutely,

502
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:22.119
all upbringing, man upbringing. All
right, we'll get we'll close it

503
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:24.239
out. If you want to give
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504
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564
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.599
Hey, welcome back to I'm the
Ball Hero Fox Sports Team fifty on.

565
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Steve, He's Jay. He got
about twelve minutes. If you want

566
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.039
to give us a quick call.
We like to hear from you. Good

567
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:07.639
show today, a lot of fun
and a lot of fun, good discussion.

568
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.519
Yeah, yeah, we'll screwed up
here in two minutes. Yeah we

569
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.519
can mess. Yeah. Do you
know if someone asked me today on Facebook

570
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:21.159
if Nico has Facebook? Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, And I

571
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:22.760
said, I said, I don't
know, because they won't go see who

572
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:24.960
his girlfriend? No, No,
I probably wanted to just probably friend him

573
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:29.239
because they liked They like Nico.
What's not to like him? On Nico?

574
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.159
We want to see an interesting character. Yeah, I think he would

575
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.880
caused me problems being a friend,
but you know, kind of made a

576
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.480
name for himself from our lot of
people, you know, my paymid gamee.

577
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:42.920
Yeah, the people that you know
that I hang with, Hey,

578
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.599
they love Nico anyway. So Steve, what do you think tonight? Man?

579
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.320
Oh, I think they're gonna come
out and play really well. They're

580
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.079
at home, right, they always
play well at home. Twelve and a

581
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.039
half, Uh, yeah, it
was, it was. It was lower

582
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.159
than that. It was like ten
and a half. They moved to twelve

583
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.679
and a half. Yeah. I
think I think they'll cover I think they'll

584
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:06.960
cover. I still think there's a
couple of things. Blow needs to hit.

585
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.719
Prie throws. He just does.
He has been though more than the

586
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.679
more than usual, but not right. Let's take this call. Hi,

587
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:16.519
you're on the arm and one on
the ball. Hey, guys, what's

588
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:21.159
up this? Vic? Vic?
What's going on? You win any participation

589
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:27.840
trophies lately? Days participated Bampa of
the Year? Oh, they're that.

590
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.920
It's not easy to be totally one
year old around Disneyland. I'll tell you

591
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:37.079
what. So what's going on?
Still my mom My Mom's been gone about

592
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:42.719
ten years and I'm still a hero
for carrying my nephew on my on my

593
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:49.400
on my uh shoulders for a whole
Disney Yeah, it's not easy, man,

594
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.800
It's not easy. So what's up? I wanted to chime in on

595
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:58.519
the coaching thing. Okay, So
basically, you can't win without players,

596
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:02.119
guys. I mean, look at
look at isn't Pop regarded as one of

597
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:07.519
the greatest coaches in NBA history and
the guy can't even make the playoffs now

598
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.159
that he don't have uh Kim Duncan
and that and that those guys around.

599
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.760
Okay, Bill Balichi, isn't he
one of the greatest coaches, and now

600
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:24.239
he can't make the playoffs without Brady
and that crew. McHale is as one

601
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:30.679
of the greatest places to play because
of all the players we've had, or

602
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:35.239
because a great coach, or what. There's a hell of a lot of

603
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.800
great players been through the last thirty
years in that building. Yeah. No,

604
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.880
I said this before as part of
the stories that I did for the

605
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.559
Loop book. Montgomery said, you
know how, I said, you know,

606
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:47.880
how was it coaching against Louton here? And he says, well,

607
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.880
they had some pretty good players.
That's what makes it tough. And I

608
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.440
mean, look, mcale is tough, but the players made it even tougher.

609
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:58.920
So you're right to your point.
So you guys asked about idea,

610
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.119
he was a I'm a good coach
when she had airy. Oh okay,

611
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:07.400
that's where you're going with this.
Yeah, so is she a good coach

612
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:12.320
or did she? You know?
Years ago in nineteen eighty nine, one

613
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.119
of the greatest teams in Little League
history. We dis missed a Little World

614
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.199
Series, but I had two pictures
that I rolled the ball out and went

615
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:24.440
and folded my knee and Steve j
They once told me, you man,

616
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:30.199
you have such a great infield.
Well, those two pitchers averaged fourteen strikeout

617
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:35.159
the game, and in the little
league there's only eighteen outs. So how

618
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.480
good a defense that I have.
Yeah, but people don't realize that they

619
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:42.679
you know, and like I said, look at look at Belichick. Can't

620
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.039
you make the playoffs? Now,
I'm sure he didn't change drills or didn't

621
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:52.320
change his coaching philosophy. Yeah,
I know, you're right. Well,

622
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:57.280
but at the college level, though, getting players is up to the coach

623
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.320
too. You know, you go, you you're talking NFL, NBA,

624
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.079
whatever, Major League Baseball. You
know, you've got to have a general

625
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.679
manager who's got to spend money and
got to get players and stuff like that.

626
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:12.000
You know, and look, there
are great recruiters who aren't great coaches

627
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.679
who bring in great players. And
you know, look Sean Miller, right,

628
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:20.159
he kept getting five star after five
star after five star, but he

629
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:24.280
couldn't get those five stars to play
and win him a championship. Luke did

630
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.960
it a different way. He got
guys that fit what he was trying to

631
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.719
do, won a national championship with
him, went to four final fours.

632
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:36.000
You know, he had to go
get those guys then, he also had

633
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.679
to coach him. You know,
Tommy Lloyd. You know, he's getting

634
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.559
guys again that fit his system,
mixed in you know, five star here,

635
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.320
five star there, getting guys and
he you know, we're still finding

636
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:50.280
out how he's putting those guys together. So there, I think. I

637
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.760
think from a coaching standpoint, at
the college level, coaching is more than

638
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.079
the x's and o's on the court. And well, it's true, and

639
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.800
you do velop and you got to
remember Luke changed philosophies a couple of times,

640
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:07.440
right, he ran, and then
he had the big guys, the

641
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:13.760
the Brian Williams, Stokes and Don
Brooks Gill and so he changed philosophies,

642
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.559
which I think made him even a
better coach, right, and then went

643
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:22.239
back to running again. Went yeah, exactly, Okay, exactly, Okay,

644
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:23.960
So I'm gonna write this down.
What was your point? After all?

645
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:29.559
And you got that you got to
have players to be a good coach.

646
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:32.639
Okay, what is what is what
if you got if you got sucky

647
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:38.079
players, you're you're You're obviously not. Like I said, Pop is the

648
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:40.960
perfect example. Okay, So I
thought you're gonna go with basketball too,

649
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:47.480
So what does Tommy have Jerry's still
out man that that. You know,

650
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.400
you've got the Princeton lost in there, and you've got a couple of bad

651
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.119
uh and but in college you got
to develop those guys too, not like

652
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.639
the pros were they're already. I
mean, so you think anybody coaches Lebron

653
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.639
nowadays? How though? So let
me ask you something just with a minute

654
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:08.239
we have left for you, uh
pull disclosure. Rick text me all the

655
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:12.559
time during games. He's a pain
in my ass. I'm okay with that.

656
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.519
So here's New Year's Eve, right, he's already, he's already.

657
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:21.400
I had to get him off the
leads New Year's Eve to admit that,

658
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:27.119
mister Vick, I admit it.
And Day said about ruining the day got

659
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:32.599
me ruined my Chris Year, and
I believe it. Yeah, sorry,

660
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:37.400
Vick. You know there's another one
coming up in a few months. So

661
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.679
there you go, all right,
Vick. Hey, thanks a bunch man,

662
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.760
you guys take care, Thanks for
listening. You know he's he texted

663
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.480
me all the time here and John
Morrites all these guys. Oh come on,

664
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.159
let me watch the game. Guys. You know I appreciate them.

665
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:57.760
I get those two man I get
those two from a different group of people,

666
00:47:57.760 --> 00:47:59.800
but I think they're kind of all
saying the same thing. Right,

667
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:01.679
what the hell? This is what
it is? I mean, you have

668
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.960
to if you're gonna be Oh,
I was gonna say that level of fan

669
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.960
because I say this to you.
If you're putting money into it and you're

670
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.880
you know, you're you're given to
the nil, You're given to the school.

671
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:16.000
I understand that passion, right,
but if you have just emotional you

672
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:19.599
know, I was criticized for not
being a fan. You know, I'm

673
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:21.559
a fan, but I'm not a
fan like you guys, right because I

674
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:23.320
don't I like to sleep at night. I like to sleep at night.

675
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:25.320
I don't want to work up Monday. You know, I make it.

676
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:29.760
I don't lose sleep over these Okay, so that's the level of fan.

677
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:36.880
But you're around a people who do
lose sleepover. Okay. See, that's

678
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.760
kind of crazy to me. I
think I overcame that when I was thirty.

679
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:44.079
But you know what I'm saying,
it's I saw the purpose. Why

680
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.440
would you put invest your heart and
your stolen it because at the end of

681
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:51.559
the day, they're gonna break your
heart. They at the r remember I

682
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:58.599
said this yesterday. You've won one
title in twenty seven years. Good luck

683
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.360
for the next twenty seven years.
Full disclosure. I once Larry Smith's first

684
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:07.679
game. Let's take this. I'm
gonna tell stories. Hi on the art

685
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.360
on the ball, my guy,
this is Kim. Hey Jim, how

686
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.000
are you? I'm great? How
are you? We're good? What do

687
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.960
you have? What do you have
for us? I wanted to quickly give

688
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.440
Jay props for he was the only
guy I heard that picked the U of

689
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:28.360
a football team to go ken and
three, and in fact they did well.

690
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:32.000
There's a caveat for that. There's
a for that. Jake was the

691
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:36.400
guy that kind of started this whole
thing, and then you came. But

692
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:40.519
I did say, but they were
going and they were doing well. Yeah,

693
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:45.840
okay, thank you Jack. All
the griefs that Jay has taken over

694
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:52.679
the years for his game pics.
I'm gonna pat him on the That's okay.

695
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.320
He deserves that, man. And
we're getting them glasses for the blind

696
00:49:55.360 --> 00:50:05.199
Squirrel fort glasses for the That last
game was very opportunistic. Uh Nubby there

697
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.599
it was, Yeah, it was
fun. It was yeah, I mean

698
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:09.480
it was You want to talk about
a roller coaster of a game for Arizona

699
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:16.039
fense. Absolutely absolutely well and fixed
turnovers. I mean that the defense didn't

700
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:20.719
really hold up Verry into the bargain. Yeah, yeah, all right,

701
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.840
Jim. I do appreciate you taking
the time to pick up the phone and

702
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:30.000
call in and tell Steve how he
messed that up. Well, that's not

703
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:31.960
exactly what I said. Well,
that's how I took it, That's how

704
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:36.920
I was writing the story. Yeah, I get it. Okay, Well,

705
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.000
one more quick thing, Jay,
I take issue a little bit with

706
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:45.400
Vic that you can CoA jump a
little players once in a while. You

707
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.480
can't. You can't. You can't. Dick made a living off of that,

708
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.400
so absolutely you can't. All right, man, Hey, thanks a

709
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.440
bunch, Jim. Happy New hear
to you, Happy New Year to you,

710
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:58.679
guys, Thank you, thank you
for listening. All right, Getting

711
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:02.639
back to your topic about people lose
their mind. Full disclosure. Larry Smith's

712
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:08.079
first game at Arizona. They're playing. They opened with Colorado nineteen eighty twoish

713
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:14.119
nineteen eighty nineteen eighty eighty Okay,
yeah, okay, I think it was

714
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.960
eighty first game Colorado. Colorado State
comes in here. They lose on a

715
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:22.719
last second field goal. I smashed
a nice chest at the game the holders

716
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.360
one. Okay, okay, well, okay, there's some okay that you

717
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:30.800
know, but that was when you
could take little ice chests into the stadium,

718
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.840
little baby igloose, and I smashed
it on the seats and busted into

719
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.000
pieces and left it there. Okay, Okay, that's where I was at

720
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.119
twenty one. Oh, thank god, you've matured. Yeah, I had,

721
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:46.239
I had, you know, and
I would say probably mid eighties that's

722
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:50.159
when it kind of changed. Yeah. It took a few years where I'm

723
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.119
like, Okay, they lost,
and you know, I hate that,

724
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.559
but let's go on to the next
you know what solved it for me?

725
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:59.840
You know what I think when Arizona
started beating in Arizona State, right,

726
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:04.400
because that was that was just a
thing that growing up that you have on

727
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.840
that you know, it was just
you hated the end of the football season,

728
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:14.800
and and you know, you started
feeling better about being an Arizona fan

729
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.760
because they started being ACU and you
weren't. You were no longer the you

730
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:22.440
know, the little brother that gets
in the way. So okay, but

731
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:29.239
then and then comes two thousand and
you're in twenty twenty one, just loses

732
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:32.679
to NAU. I was passed,
so I just smashed an. I said,

733
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:36.639
well, because you probably didn't have
one with you, But what level

734
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:40.400
of the pissed were you? You
know, it was more of a resignation.

735
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.119
I was mad, Okay, I'm
like, you can't lose. I

736
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:46.239
don't care how bad you are.
If you're Arizona, you can't lose to

737
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:51.639
AC. I was really I was
angry at that, but then pretty quickly,

738
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:52.920
I mean, now I'm gonna say, by the time I got to

739
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.159
my car, you know, parking
in the nailgator. By the time I

740
00:52:55.159 --> 00:53:00.000
got to my car, I thought, holy hell, this is way worse

741
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:05.119
than anybody thought. Right and and
and now I'm cussing at Kevin someone Yeah,

742
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:08.000
not it. Yeah, And we
found out that was the case.

743
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:12.719
Yeah, it's a bad group of
apples back then the case. All right,

744
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.239
Uh god, that's it's okay,
man. We're headed to the Colorado

745
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.840
game. Yeah, uh seven thirty
start. Well, we'll be here to

746
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.000
talk about it tomorrow and we'll bring
somebody in who can give us some thoughts

747
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.199
on that as well. So be
sure to be back tomorrow. Have a

748
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:24.639
great night.

