WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:10.480 Big Food and on with Cliff and Bobo. These guys are your favorites, 2 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:20.640 so like say subscribe and rade it five star and me just USh today listening 3 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:29.719 watching them always keep its watching. And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James 4 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:35.200 Bubo fay By Cliff, Yes, Bobo, what's going on? All sorts 5 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.640 of stuff, you know, getting ready for a new podcast episode that's pretty 6 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:42.920 exciting. Other than that, the museum's kind of humming along. It's a 7 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.439 little slow today, but you know, for the most part, we're kind 8 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:48.719 of humming along. Getting ready to go to Ohio this weekend for the Ohio 9 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:53.520 Bigfoot Conference. Oh yeah, got a corporate gig next week. So yeah, 10 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.560 there's all sorts of stuff happening as usual. Went out of the woods 11 00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.439 earlier in the week, but found some footprints that was not fight U some 12 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:03.960 footprints and went out and found some others. We'll talk more about that on 13 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.120 the members episode. But yeah, it's been a very very active sort of 14 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:11.000 week for me. Cool big foot stuff like in the field. Yeah yeah, 15 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:14.760 those footprints up there, yeah, great stuff. Man. It was 16 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.760 very very close to where those guys saw the Sasquatch on January twenty fifth, 17 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.159 just three months ago. Oh, rad, Yeah, yeah, so I 18 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:26.920 can't wait to tell you a little bit more about that. So yeah, 19 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.640 but we'll be doing that on the members episode. And that's part of the 20 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:32.519 benefit of being a member, of course, of Bigfoot and Beyond is that 21 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:34.120 you get to hear all the skinny from all of us. You know what 22 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:38.519 we're really up to, and there's a little bit less editing going on in 23 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.959 there. And of course I guess the big, big, big bonus for 24 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:44.840 being a member of Bigfoot and Beyond is that you get to listen to these 25 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:51.400 regular episodes with zero commercials. That's zero, zero none. Well, I 26 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.239 do like our commercials. Well yeah, that's but you're also a member, 27 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.000 aren't you, Bobo, so you can listen to it with commercials and then 28 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:02.120 later without I go with, well, I recommend maybe just doing with commercials 29 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:07.000 in one ear and then without in the other ear. That's the wrong way 30 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:08.479 to do it, yeah, kind of stereo, you know, in a 31 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:12.759 way, it'll it'll be out of phase. That's gonna that's gonna mess up 32 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:15.960 by in one ear out the other. Plan on Cliff, I didn't think 33 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.919 about that, but you see that you think everything Bobo. Yeah, thinker 34 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:24.280 boy, Yeah, you are a thinker AnyWho. It is a Q and 35 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:28.520 A episode here. We're kind of excited about this one. We really enjoy 36 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.120 the Q and a's is a nice way to interact. 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Yeh, 46 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:12.960 well, we got we got something right here, dude. From our man 47 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:16.960 Cody Polly the Legend Nice Tody Polly. Yeah, Yeah, Hey Boa, 48 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.479 did you actually eat the pig's eyeball in the Santa Cruz episode of Finding Bigfoot? 49 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:24.479 Absolutely? Yeah, I've eaten. I've eaten those several times. I've 50 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:29.120 eaten them in Hawaii too. What do they taste like? Nothing? Really, 51 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.719 I mean nothing bad. They're super good. They're super nutritious, like 52 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:37.159 they're really good for you. I imagine they It tastes like nondescript meat pretty 53 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.560 much. Yeah, it's kind a strange texture. When do you think it's 54 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:44.400 an eyeball? It's kind of gross, but I just think it's just whatever. 55 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:46.400 It's not so bad. Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you 56 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.800 about. There is the texture pretty pretty like I don't know what would be 57 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:54.560 the word pretty, tough, sinewy, or what would be the adjective you 58 00:03:54.560 --> 00:04:00.360 would use there? It was I guess fibrous. Fibrous That makes sense because 59 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:05.400 I've heard of fiber optics. It was squishy, but I mean it wasn't 60 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:09.599 like it wasn't like a It was more solid than a grape, but it 61 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:15.800 was grape like. Did it still have the the aqueous solution inside? Yeah, 62 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:17.000 well kind of it was. Most of it's boiled out, but there's 63 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.720 some there's some liquid in there. Did it pop in your mouth kind of? 64 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:27.279 Yeah? Really? Those are flavor crystals. Oh yeah, it's good 65 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:30.600 by me. I just could I just can't see eating an eyeball moving macho. 66 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.160 Yeah, I know, well there was a joke in there, so 67 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:38.519 anyway, I just can't see eating an eyeball. Yeah yeah, never mind 68 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.920 this Cliff in his lonely humorous world. Is that some grateful dead reference? 69 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.800 No, no, just I can't see eating an eyeball. Oh God, 70 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:50.240 how can I miss that? Damn? I feel that way every time I 71 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:53.839 say any joke, And it's not just about it, not not about you, 72 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:56.600 because you get You've been around me long enough, you get almost all 73 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.319 my jokes, which is, you know, tip of the hat to you. 74 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.439 But you know, when I'm out there in the real world whatever that's, 75 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.480 whatever that is, you know, flinging these things left and right, 76 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:10.800 I just feel like nobody gets it. Pearls before swine, pearls before swine 77 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:13.480 eyeballs. I love I love it when people don't get it. When you're 78 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.959 joking, you say something great, they don't, none of them get it. 79 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.079 But then sometimes I get kind of a little upset about it, like, 80 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:24.439 damn it, he fools. I kind of like it because jokes. 81 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:26.920 Then suddenly, not only did I say a great joke, but the joke's 82 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:30.560 also on them because they didn't get it right. But that's my I guess 83 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:32.480 that's my arrogance. But I hit it when you're hanging out with someone that's 84 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:38.600 kind of like downber than you or less experienced whatever, and you you make 85 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:42.720 a joke and that like it's obviously if you're being like facetious or sarcastic, 86 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:45.079 and they're like, oh no, they talk to me like you're a moron, 87 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.399 Like they just don't get it. Yeah, well, you know, 88 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:53.279 we we uh. It's my opinion that we only really see ourselves in the 89 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:57.839 world, so it makes sense that people might speak to others as a moron, 90 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:02.399 you know. Yeah, let's go to the next questions from John Gayrett 91 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:06.279 Garrett Garrett G E. H R. E. T. Garay. I 92 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:10.759 don't know, but anyway, John, I got that part right, Hi, 93 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:14.319 Cliff and Bobo. There are a few people who have studied the Patterson 94 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.040 Gimlin film who are not novices, by the way, who claim that there 95 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:23.279 is good evidence that the casts made by Patterson and Titmus were not from the 96 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:27.920 line of footprints made by Patty in the film. I've been following information about 97 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:30.279 Bigfoot in general over the course of my life. And this is the first 98 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.759 I've heard of this allegation. I have my own opinion on this, but 99 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:38.600 I want to know what you two think. Is there any evidence good or 100 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:44.240 if he or maybe is that this could be the case? Thanks Walther Dash 101 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.680 Yes, nonsense, that's complete nonsense. Whoever this person is that that has 102 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:55.079 that is not a novice, sure is acting like one, because there literally 103 00:06:55.240 --> 00:07:00.319 is a film of the trackway you can find. I know Bobby Short's website 104 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:03.360 Bigfoot, what is that Bigfoot encounters dot com. I think it's called. 105 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.240 Yeah, Bobby's dead, of course, but like her website still up, 106 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:10.800 and it is a treasure trove of information, and much of it is correct, 107 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:14.360 not all of it. She had some opinions and she changed some things 108 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.519 around from and I understand from the factual wait it initially happened and whatever else. 109 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.839 But most of her evidence, most of the stuff on her website's actually 110 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:24.720 pretty good. But one of the things that is on her website is a 111 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:30.959 very very small and short snippet from this the lost second Reel, The Patterson 112 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:35.240 Gimlin. Officionados in our listenership would of course know that There were two reels. 113 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:41.319 The first reel is mostly b roll from when Roger and Bob are tripping 114 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.639 around and Bluff Creek for those two weeks or something like that before they got 115 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:49.560 the film. The last fifty eight seconds or so is the Sasquatch, and 116 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:55.000 the film role actually ran out while they were filming the Sasquatch, you know, 117 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:58.639 like they sort of like upp flipping away there, and that's why they 118 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:03.680 stopped filming. Because that's what the questions all bigfoot researchers should ask whenever they 119 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:07.000 see a big foot piece of footage, a footy, you know, big 120 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:11.720 footage, is why did they stop filming? In Roger's case, the thing 121 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:15.959 that they ran out of film? Okay, So then after the sasquatching away, 122 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.839 Roger went under a blanket, a saddle blanket, and changed into the 123 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:22.079 second role, and then they filmed Bob jumping off a log, They filmed 124 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.600 the trackway, they filmed god knows what else. We don't know because that 125 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:30.360 film role is lost, just like the original first role is. It's also 126 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:33.600 lost. But the second role is lost, and they're no copy was made 127 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.120 of it, but there is a little snip it out there on Bobby Short's 128 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.480 website, maybe Matt Prue can put a link somewhere or something, I don't 129 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:46.879 know. And it shows a series of footprints in the ground that are clearly 130 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:52.679 from the Patterson Gimlin film subject. And one of the footprints has plaster in 131 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.919 it. And if my memory serves, and I'm pretty good about the footprints 132 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:00.360 stuff, maybe not everything else, I believe it's the right foot. See 133 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.759 Roger and Bob cast a right foot and a left foot at the scene that 134 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.000 day, on the twentieth of October, and they chose the cleanest, clearest, 135 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:11.159 most beautiful print because back then they were looking for what does the bottom 136 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:16.440 of the foot look like? So there is actually evidence that that Roger and 137 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.120 Bob cast from that line of tracts. Unless somebody wants to go on to 138 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.279 say that that that that piece of footage is not from that day, that's 139 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.120 a hard argument to make because it is a recognizable footprint of the Patterson GM 140 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:33.799 film subject. So whoever is saying this nonsense is spew and nonsense. There 141 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:37.639 is evidence that those tracks Roger and Bob left and right that you're talking about, 142 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.480 I'm assuming came from that trackway. Now, of course, let's fast 143 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:45.879 forward a little bit. Lyle Laborty forest cruiser at the time. He went 144 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:50.639 on later to work in the higher levels of government. He stumbled across the 145 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:54.559 site the following Monday. Roger and Bob filmed it on a Saturday. Then 146 00:09:54.039 --> 00:10:01.879 Yle Laborties stumbled up upon the site on Monday and found cowboy boot tracks and 147 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:05.440 horse tracks and the trackway of the sasquatch. He photographed. I think he 148 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:11.440 took four photographs of three prints. There's a duplicate print in there. Those 149 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:16.080 same prints, or two of those prints, if I remember correctly, were 150 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.320 cast by Bob Tipmas night or seven days after that. Bob came to the 151 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:28.879 site nine or ten days after the filming event and cast ten footprints regardless of 152 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.559 quality, Okay, just ten footprints in a row, no matter how good 153 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:35.720 or bad they were. He cast all of them in a row. And 154 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:37.759 that is a fantastic trackway, by the way, All all those I mean 155 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:46.320 all the series of tracks I should say casts specifically, and two of those 156 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:52.600 footprints that Lyle Laverty photographs on that following Monday were cast by Bob. So 157 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:58.080 I mean, yeah, there is evidence. There is good evidence in my 158 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.679 opinion, the stories that these people told of their events of finding the tracks 159 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.799 or casting in Bob Bob's case, or a Roger and Bob doing their thing 160 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:07.879 on that day. It all matches up. It all matches up. There's 161 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:13.840 photographic evidence on top of it, there's cast evidence that matches the photographs. 162 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:18.000 So I don't know who this guy is is saying that that that doesn't even 163 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:22.000 matter who this person is. They're incorrect, you know, in a basket 164 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:24.039 quality other research. Perhaps you shouldn't listen anymore. Well, one of the 165 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:31.480 skeptical arguments that I think this person is referring to people have speculated or hypothesized 166 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:37.759 that Patterson filmed the Sasquatch quote unquote Sasquatch earlier and that it was developed and 167 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.320 you know, maybe that there were multiple takes, and so once the take 168 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:46.600 was selected, that they subsequently went down there and fabricated those tracks, and 169 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.360 then the event they came out with the Ben Stirrup made a bunch of phone 170 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.039 calls, Hey, this happened down here, and so that's that's the sort 171 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:58.200 of genesis. I'm assuming that John is referring to the genesis of that particular 172 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.759 theories that people think that he filmed that some weeks prior to October twentieth, 173 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.120 once he had selected the best take and knew what the final product would look 174 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.799 like. That then he subsequently went fabricated those tracks, photographed that fabrication, 175 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.799 and then fabricated coming out of there, you know, staged acted it out 176 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.279 that oh this happened, go look, and subsequently people go down there and 177 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.360 look at it. So I think that's why so many people pay such scrutiny 178 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:28.200 to the film to see if you can see any of the tracks in the 179 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.960 actual film being made by the subject itself. Well, it sounds like a 180 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.759 bunch of who That's a much of who ha too, isn't it? Maybe 181 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.679 because the people who did go to the site, I mean, Daniel Perez 182 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.759 interviewed Lyle Laberty, I think twice at least once. I know at least 183 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.159 once, and he commented about seeing the trackway and he had commented about seeing 184 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.320 Roger and Bob's prince everywhere. We know that's the site. I mean, 185 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.840 you can identify trees in the background, we know the location where it happened. 186 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:56.879 Yeah, it just sounds like a bunch of who haw to me, 187 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.519 And it's like one of these things you look at the you go down these 188 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.000 rabbit holes and then you start believing anything, and it's just I don't know, 189 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.360 but you know, I'm going to say something fairly controversially at this point, 190 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.200 it's like, haven't we had enough man at the PG film, Let's 191 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:15.600 go get another one. I feel that way very often, Like it wouldn't 192 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.600 bother me if we never discussed it ever. Again, It's great, I 193 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.559 love it, it's cool, but I mean, it keeps giving information and 194 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.000 stuff. But at some point, man, just stop trying to ring that 195 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.000 sponge of any more water and go get another one. So there you go, 196 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.200 John, I mean, I don't know what evidence this guy's talking about. 197 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.320 There seems to be plenty of evidence that supports the claims of both Roger 198 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:41.080 and Bob and Lyle Labberty and Bob titmuss and you know, think about it. 199 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.440 John Green was at the site back in June, you know, the 200 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.279 following June and sixty eight. He and whoever was with him at the time, 201 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.960 who was that that was, Yeah, McLaren. Yeah, those guys 202 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.519 saw the footprints in the ground. You know, they were still there. 203 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:56.519 They weren't distinct, but they were still there even after the winner. So 204 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.279 I don't know, man, I mean, all these people say the same 205 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.759 thing. All these people were singing the same song. I think that's the 206 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:03.759 right tune. Man. I don't know what evidence that this other guy's come 207 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.759 up with and doesn't seem to be valid to me. So thank you John 208 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:13.480 for that question. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. 209 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:22.519 Will be right back after these messages. So here we go orfa Frank. 210 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.279 On a personal level, how will your lives change when this proof is 211 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.679 produced? Do you continue hunting, open a sanctuary? How will the site 212 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.000 change? I think once discovered as real, Bigfoot will be in danger, 213 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.399 mostly from the forces of capitalism, greed, novelty, human stupidity. What 214 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.799 are your thoughts on this and how do you think Bigfoot will respond? It 215 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:46.000 thinks to make some good points. Yeah, I mean, it might be 216 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.399 the worst thing that ever happened to him. It might not be. I 217 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:52.240 mean I could see it going bad. I could see it going good or 218 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.279 mixed. It's probably gonna be a mix. You know. It's going to 219 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:56.440 be good for him in some ways and bad for them and others. Yeah, 220 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:01.440 I don't really see my life changing very much, because they're already real, 221 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.159 you know. I live like they're already real because they are. I 222 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.360 bet the museum does a little bit better. I think that'll be kind of 223 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:13.240 cool. But at the same time, like, how will my life change, 224 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:18.360 Probably not very much. I'll be excited to see, you know, 225 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:24.440 the at geodocumentary on sasquatches. That'll be cool. I will continue going out 226 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.360 there and doing my best to gather evidence and learn about them. And since 227 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.600 I am associated with an institution, you know, the the NABC, the 228 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.480 museum here, as small and pittally as we are, we are an institution. 229 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:41.000 I'm hoping that maybe we can contribute or at least continue to contribute to 230 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:43.440 the cause, you know, to the cause of learning about these animals. 231 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.519 You know. I think that's going to be a big part of what we 232 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:48.519 do in the future, because I'm not going to stop walking the roads and 233 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.480 looking for footprints. The only difference is that when I find something, there's 234 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:58.080 going to be a small group of biologists that care, and that's the only 235 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:00.440 thing that's going to change. But that doesn't affect my life except that I 236 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.480 have somebody to show. Yeah, So that's kind of what I'm thinking. 237 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:07.320 I don't think that I'm gonna have a drastic change to my life in any 238 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.720 way, really, because they are real. Yeah, so I don't think 239 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.519 my life is going to change any drastic way. I'm going to continue doing 240 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:18.159 what we do. The NBC is going to continue as is, and uh, 241 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.320 I guess that I can start learning from professional scientists about it and putting 242 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.480 my data in front of them for their interpretation. So that'll be cool. 243 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:32.000 Yeah. If sasquatches exist, then they are already being endangered by all of 244 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:34.879 the forces that were mentioned in the question, and so I would think that 245 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:41.039 discovering them, recognizing whatever their habitat requirements might be protecting those habitats would be 246 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.679 the only intervention to that. Yeah, and really we could, we could 247 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.120 be doing that now, but it just wouldn't have the force of, you 248 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:55.440 know, possibly endangered animal, especially one as unique and unusual as a sasquatch 249 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:57.559 is. So I have a big advocate of protecting public land because I know 250 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:02.279 that that's the only way we can indirectly protect the sasquatch at this point. 251 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:07.240 By trying to curb pollution and paving and whatever else. I don't think road 252 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.720 building, bothers them a bit. I don't think loogging really bothers them so 253 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:15.519 much. I don't think any of the normal sort of uses of land bother 254 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:19.240 them very much. I think paving is really about it that we can do 255 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:22.799 to really screw them up. But I could be wrong about that, and 256 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.160 I look forward to learning more after they're recognized as a species. Yeah, 257 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:30.000 like that ild classic saying what's the smartest animal on earth? The one that's 258 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:36.599 had to be discovered by man? Yep here here they're there. All Oh, 259 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:40.039 thanks for that question orfa on to the next question. The next one 260 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:44.720 comes from RJ. Spelled like it sounds, by the way. Greetings, 261 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:47.880 Cliff, Bobo, and Matt. I have a question for you gentlemen today. 262 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:52.079 Since bigfoot live off an all natural diet in the wild, do you 263 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:57.279 believe pesticides off of orchard fruits picked by bigfoot or gifted fruits and veggies would 264 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:02.200 have any adverse effect on the creature And do you think organic gifting is a 265 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:07.960 better option. Yes, they definitely prefer organic. I've talked to a lot 266 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:11.119 of them, you know, leave out food gifts, you know, and 267 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:15.880 they they won't touch like sprayed apples or pears or but I mean in some 268 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.240 places they want they have no other choice, but they'll go for the organic 269 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:23.319 every time. I think if they're opportunistic and they get the opportunity to, 270 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.960 whether it's rating crops or farms or orchards or whatever the case may be, 271 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:33.680 that's going to constitute such an infinitesimally small part of their overall diet, even 272 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.319 for a given individual. I don't know that it would matter very much. 273 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:38.359 Oh yeah, I don't thin it's going to affect their health too much. 274 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.920 I mean just I think they just they don't like the taste. Who doesn't 275 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.960 like the taste of organic better, you know, usually, But if they 276 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:49.359 were eating like entirely fruit that was cultivated by humans, then maybe. But 277 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.759 I would assume, you know, if these animals exist and they're the size 278 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.200 that people describe that, you know, the way that they make anti venom, 279 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.759 as I understand it is they'll inject snake venom into something very large, 280 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.640 like a horse, because there's a per unit of blood sort of ratio, 281 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:08.000 and so the horse produces antibodies. They extract those antibodies and that's anti venom. 282 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.039 And so if you have an eight hundred pound animal or something of that 283 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.599 nature that's occasionally eating a bit of that fruit. I don't know the pesticide 284 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.839 would be enough to have an adverse effect on something that large. Oh no, 285 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.680 No, I don't think I wouldn't. I'm just saying I think they're 286 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:26.559 taste buds. They don't like it. At this point, If if conservation 287 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.559 is the goal, if you could successfully gift to sasquatch anything, I would 288 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:34.079 say, anything's on the table, whether it's a zagnat bar or pancakes slathered 289 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:38.920 in sugary syrup or whatever the case may be, and they'll definitely, yeah, 290 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:41.160 they like that stuff. But I mean, like I know people that 291 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.960 you know, like I said, like I got too expensively keep bringing them 292 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.880 organic food that they bring them conventional you know, spread like Safeway stuff and 293 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:52.240 it's like you know, the treated chemicals and pesticides, and said, yeah, 294 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:56.319 they wouldn't they would. I've heard that from several people that like you 295 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.920 know, trustworally long term witnesses that have you know, have a gifting spot, 296 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.759 and they said they wouldn't take the the after they had organic for years, 297 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.920 they wouldn't take the regular stuff. Well, if we look at the 298 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:12.400 body of claims of people who claim to have given sasquatches food and the sasquatches 299 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:18.119 have taken it voluntarily. The ones that are associated with the people of high 300 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:21.799 caliber, high reputation, and who've collected evidence, And again the evidence is 301 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:25.319 subjective. There's no proof yet, but for the sake of the argument, 302 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:29.160 like all of those have to do with usually like enriched white flour products, 303 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:33.519 sweet feed, and or in both those cases, a lot of sugar. 304 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.880 I haven't seen anyone produce any evidence associated with the taking of like organic things. 305 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.000 So I think we're weighing all those claims. It seems like, well, 306 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:45.160 if you really wanted to gift them something that would keep them coming back, 307 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:47.440 you've got to give them something they can't get in the natural world, 308 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.440 and sugar is one of those things, because the highest concentration of sugar in 309 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:52.279 the natural world is honey, and you're not going to get a lot of 310 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:55.599 it at a time, and it's not going to be very easy to get 311 00:20:55.720 --> 00:21:00.400 either. And so I don't know. I'm sure that there are people who 312 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.240 claim that they have a preference for organic fruit over other fruit, but I 313 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:06.880 would ask, you know, where's where's the beef? So to speak? 314 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.559 Not that there's again there's no proof out there yet, but the people who 315 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:17.200 have produced evidence from repeat visitation scenarios where food was involved, it's usually again 316 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.240 zagnet bars, pancakes, honey buns, ho hos like all these terrible things. 317 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:23.000 And or sweet sweet feed. Sweet feed is the thing I've heard the 318 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:26.319 most. Or cook meat. I don't know, I just, I just 319 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:32.279 I can't think of Sasquatch as having that discriminating them a palette, honestly. 320 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:34.039 I mean, they're eating roadkill and stuff. I don't think they have much. 321 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:37.480 I don't think they care about much, you know, except for getting 322 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.400 those calories in their in their gullet. You know, but who knows, 323 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:42.279 who knows? Maybe they do care. Maybe you can taste all that stuff, 324 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.880 But I don't know. Haven't I heard something about eating peaches whole or 325 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:48.680 something like that, Just like, yeah, yep, I've heard that. 326 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:52.880 I mean, I see the way sochy Gulfstown food. I'm thinking, how 327 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.759 do you How do you know you even like the taste of meat if you're 328 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.079 eating it like that? You know, they maybe the same way. My 329 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:03.759 absolute favorite Sasquatch claim of all time, which I do not think is true, 330 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.559 but is nonetheless hilarious involves eating peaches, and it's definitely best told off 331 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:11.240 the air, so maybe we'll tell it in the member section. There's another 332 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:15.920 teasertrons there you go. So I don't know, RJ. Does that answer 333 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.039 your question? I hope so, because that's all you're getting. Oh it's 334 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:23.920 my joying, Okay. Matthew Hoskins writes loved the podcast and of course the 335 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:30.160 show in season five, episode seven, is a yetti dance a real cultural 336 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:36.599 thing? Or was Lakfa, the Sherpa and Bobo just making it up or 337 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:40.160 as they went along they did have a yetti dance, but I was just 338 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:41.519 kind of making my part up. Well, I was. I was doing 339 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:45.960 their part, but I had like a like a slip disc in my back 340 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.519 at the time, so I was had that big infection in my leg, 341 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.680 so I wasn't dancing too smooth. Yeah. I don't know if I have 342 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:55.039 anything to add on that since I wasn't there that day. Yeah, they 343 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:56.200 well, they had the Shirpa dance and the Yetti dance. They had like 344 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.880 two dances, and those guys would party that they you know, they lived 345 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.559 their beer and like their nepolie moonshine which was I don't know what it was, 346 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.079 but they put it in diesel used diesel cans, so it tasted like 347 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:11.759 diesel. But we like, uh we you know, I subtle mettion with 348 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:18.240 those guys. They would dance the same song, the same dance over and 349 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.039 over for hours every night, and they never got sick of it, and 350 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:25.839 they just laugh and sing and dance. It's it's it's really cool, but 351 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:27.200 it's like, man, how can you do that to the same songs, 352 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:32.279 like two songs over and over and over. They loved it. We must 353 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:33.960 have told the story at some point on the air, how you were accused 354 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.440 of causing floods Bobo. Yeah, we talked about it, did we? 355 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.400 Okay, yeah that's what I thought. Well, I angered a goddess. 356 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.279 Yeah, exactly is your fault that a flood happened. That's kind of cool. 357 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.519 I pissed off a few goddesses. You're a force of nature. Yeah, 358 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:52.359 what you probably even know? Do you have notes on this stuff for 359 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:56.799 it? Like we talked about what episodes and that's probably not just my institutional 360 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:02.160 memory. I couldn't tell you what episode specifically something was, unless it was 361 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:06.319 maybe from A Q and A because I organized those together and so I could 362 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.319 search those in my email by date. But otherwise I could tell you if 363 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.480 something was discussed before or not, but I couldn't necessarily tell you what episode 364 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.640 it was. I think it was an early Bobo story time. Yeah, 365 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:21.400 I know that we did an episode specifically about YETI oriented things, or maybe 366 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:25.319 just that trip in particular, But no, we have talked about that on 367 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:27.160 here before. It might have been too when we had Chad hammel On. 368 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:30.440 I think you guys told some of the stories from that trip and the people 369 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:34.400 with like the makeshift guns. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we definitely told 370 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:41.720 the story on here in depth, indeed indubitably. So. Yeah, but 371 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.039 that is where I heard the Yeti. That's why I heard the Yeti vocalizations 372 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.079 was doing the ship. But during the Yedi dance is when it after I 373 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:52.240 did some big Foot calls, is when we got the return Yeti call, 374 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.880 which was totally different, totally different sound. Well, there you go. 375 00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.000 I hope that answers the question. Matthew. Okay, the next question looks 376 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:03.920 like this comes from a Teresa Kozik. We've all heard the accounts of how 377 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.039 fast Bigfoot can run. I wonder why Patty didn't take off full speed. 378 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:11.599 Do you think she was trying to lure the four horsemen away from a juvenile 379 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.400 that was hiding four horsemen? Actually, there were only two people at the 380 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:19.079 site. You might maybe maybe it's an error here, but the four horsemen, 381 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:23.799 of course, refers to John Green, Reneeda Hinden, Rover Krantz, 382 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.599 and who I'm missing, Peter Burn, who were kind of the four early 383 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:33.279 bigfoot researchers that everybody kind of looked to. So those are the four horsemen, 384 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:36.759 kind of named after four horsemen of the Apocalypse. We did a show 385 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:40.920 recently about that. So but just to be clear, though, there were 386 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:45.359 only two people at the scene when Patty was observed, and they were both 387 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:49.119 on horses, so maybe she been trying to lure the two horsemen away. 388 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.519 But nonetheless, just to clear that up, just in case treesa some confusion 389 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:57.000 about why we call these people horsemen. Different situation there. I wonder why 390 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.319 Patty didn't take off full speed. I don't think she needed to. I 391 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:06.119 think that after the initial encounter, which was probably less than twenty five or 392 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:10.240 thirty feet away, and the horses reared back, Roger was thrown off, 393 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:12.920 Bob was getting control of the horse. I think she kind of watched all 394 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:17.839 hell break loose and like the pandemonium that was ensuing, and just kind of 395 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.680 quickly walked away because there wasn't a need to do anything else. And if 396 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.200 you look at the way the direction she walked, people said atam she didn't 397 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.559 run into the woods. Well, actually what she did is she immediately put 398 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:37.079 an obstacle between her and Roger and Bob. She put that big root, 399 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.519 like the big woodpile thing that we see in the film. She went behind 400 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:45.440 that and then walked directly away instead of going into the woods. And I 401 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:49.079 think that was probably a better escape route for her than going up into the 402 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.200 mountains into the brush at that point, because it looks like it's right there, 403 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.400 but it's not. It's a little ways back. I think that what 404 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:03.039 she did makes a lot of sense for her situation. Now, could there 405 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:04.960 have been another one around? Yeah, absolutely there could have been. There's 406 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.920 no visual evidence of that, although lots of people have said there are, 407 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.240 but I don't go chasing blob squatches. I don't believe any of that. 408 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:18.000 There are. As far as anyone can tell, there was one sasquatch in 409 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.039 that film. All those dark shadows and stuff like that in the woods behind 410 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:25.039 her are almost certainly just dark shadows in the woods behind her, not Bigfoot 411 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:27.960 faces. And you know, Bob Gimlin hiding and doing all this other nonsense 412 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.519 that these people think. Man, you start the film long enough, you're 413 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.319 gonna start seeing all sorts of things that are not there. And as proof 414 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.079 of that, just go look online for what people say about it. It's 415 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.279 a shame that no one thought to interview the horses. I know, could 416 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:49.000 animal psycha. He'll do it right. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond 417 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:59.519 with Cliff and Bogo. Will be right back after these messages. This next 418 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.799 one comes from Michael Wolf, Hey, Cliff and Bobo. I was looking 419 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:06.759 at the map of Ohio and it got me curious. Southeastern Ohio is obviously 420 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.519 squatchy, and so is Kentucky and West Virginia. What's interesting to me is 421 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.160 that Ohio is separated from those two states by the Ohio River. The only 422 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.400 way to cross between them is either by crossing the quarter mile wide river or 423 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:22.000 diverting through Pennsylvania. Assuming the Sasquatch population of Ohio is not completely isolated from 424 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.359 the Appalatia. How would they travel between these states? Long swim, run 425 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.279 across the bridge at night? Hitchhike. Love the show and always keep it 426 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.240 squatchy Michael. They obviously they swim through they aquatic eight and they have no 427 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.759 problem someone out there. I mean, oh, I screwed this up last 428 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.359 episode. I was saying Prince Edward Island. I was I meant to say 429 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:45.440 Queen Charlotte. Queen Charlotte Islands. They've been seen numerous times swimming back and 430 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:51.079 forth between Queen Charlotte's and the mainland. And so they you know some of 431 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:52.599 those islands, you know, you got to swim sixty miles and totally it's 432 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.559 some of those islands. So they can swim. So a river would be 433 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.880 no problem. Maybe certain times a year of flood stage you might a little 434 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:02.680 more hesitant to do it. But I think they have no problem acrossing that 435 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:04.799 river at all. Yeah, I one hundred percent agree. I've spoken to 436 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:08.680 several witnesses that have seen them swim. So yeah, these things are swimmers. 437 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:11.599 We all know that, or maybe we don't all know, but gorillas 438 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.319 aren't big on swimming. They don't tend to enjoy water in fact, they 439 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.359 used to think that rivers were natural barriers that gorillas could not or would not 440 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:22.440 cross. That doesn't seem to be true. But they just seem to like 441 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.599 avoid the water. They don't seem to like it very much. But sasquatches 442 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.400 just don't care. They are very much at home in the water. They 443 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.799 swim, no big deal of them at all. A river. If they 444 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.440 can see the other side, they can they can swim there. That's kind 445 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:40.519 of what it comes down to. Yeah, they've been known to run across 446 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:44.839 certain bridges, like really remote bridges and really cold, freezing, you know, 447 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.559 treacherous, gorgeous like you know, high floodwaters, no raging, you 448 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.279 know, class five rapids, like they're not going to jump into that. 449 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.759 But anything below that, I think it's not an issue for them at all. 450 00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:00.319 Now, I mean across the Columbia River, rivers like a mile wide, 451 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.880 and a lot of spots are more. Of course, a lot of 452 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.720 it was also quite shallow. A lot of people don't realize that, but 453 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.160 the Columbia River, even though it may be a mile wide, three quarters 454 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.119 of that width is actually you know, between three and eight feet deep, 455 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.920 So they would only have the swimming quarter mile or something. But they do 456 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:18.920 it. They do it. It's not a big deal at all. They 457 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.319 probably do it at night where nobody's looking hard to see them. That kind 458 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.640 of thing. Not a big deal for a Sasquatch. They don't care. 459 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.960 And apple watchings go into Ohio. They go up in like a third of 460 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:34.839 the way up into Ohio. Next, the next question comes from Rabid Sasquatch. 461 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.920 All right, Rabid, I hear that there were a few episodes of 462 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:44.759 Finding Bigfoot where the editors made it look like a figure was unidentified when in 463 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.440 fact you found it was a person, and that you guys threatened to quit 464 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.160 the show if such editing techniques were used. Again, I'm wondering if you 465 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.519 can explain which episodes those were and what it turned out to be and what 466 00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:02.079 findings in the first season were truly left unexplained the first three episodes. Yeah, 467 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:03.440 I don't think we threatened to quit. We just threw a hissy fit. 468 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.839 I did. Well. Yeah, but I mean, we're under contract. 469 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:08.400 You couldn't really do it, but h I think that we could. 470 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:14.079 Okay, all right, Besides, Bobo, I don't think we're necessarily gonna 471 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.200 quit. I think that we were just throwing a hissy fit and and we 472 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:18.640 got to fix. You know. Credit to the production company, they did 473 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:23.440 a great job accommodating our needs because we have a big foot in TV don't 474 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.559 really match very well, you know, we bigfoot stuff is. We like 475 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.640 it totally dark, but you know, literally without light, there is no 476 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.880 TV. That's what you see. You see lights, right, So yeah, 477 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.839 the first the first season was a little touch and go, you know, 478 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.359 like the one that the two that come to my mind right away. 479 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:41.599 And this is well documented out there, by the way, this is not 480 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.519 new news. It was the horse in Florida. At the very end, 481 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:49.599 Matten and Bobo see an upright figure. Yeah, they said they acted like 482 00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.559 I just watched a big Foot walk away and not filmed it. It was 483 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.759 like, no, I quit filming it because it was a freaking horse. 484 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.680 Yeah, I turned sideways and and I believe the editors at the time are 485 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:01.680 pretty Somebody told me, well, we want to leave that up to the 486 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:06.319 audience's imagination, which is always the cop out with production companies. I find 487 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.680 it kind of sucks they do that. And basically they in my opinion, 488 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.119 they kind of lie and they say, well, you know, if they 489 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:17.960 believe it's their problem, like leaving it up to the viewer's decision or you 490 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.440 know opinion. That's not a good way to do it. I think that 491 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:23.759 reality TV should have some reality in it, you know. The other one, 492 00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:27.319 of course, was the one night that I think I actually did see 493 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.039 a sasquatch, which kind of sucks, and we didn't film it in North 494 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:35.519 Carolina, the famous There's Something on the Hill like that episode. Yeah, 495 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.039 we watched that thing that I think was probably a sasquatch up on the hill 496 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:42.960 and then Matt takes off after it because he thought it was a person spying 497 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.599 on us for some reason at two in the morning, two miles off trail 498 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:47.119 or a mile and a half off trail, I don't know. But and 499 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:52.960 then they circled Matt going up the hill like he was the sasquatch, and 500 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.119 that seemed a little, you know, misleading, I think. So, 501 00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.480 yeah, those are the two that jumped to my mind. There is one 502 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:05.319 more when we did the North Georgia episode when the production assistant named Georgia saw 503 00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:09.039 what we moments later determined to be a bard owl in a tree, and 504 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.839 they filmed that whole sequence and they got you know, you guys out of 505 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.759 the car to go follow up on it. What they inserted in the final 506 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:21.440 edit of that episode is this like manlike thermal image in a color gradient, 507 00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.880 whereas we were seeing it through black and white thermals. And so what ended 508 00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:28.319 up in the final cut of that episode is not what any of us saw 509 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.279 on the thermals. And I can't remember if they ended up saying that, 510 00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.680 like, yes, we did identify it as a bard out, but that's 511 00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:36.319 absolutely what it was. But what you see in the episode is not what 512 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.680 was seen or filmed at that time. Because they're like, Boba, run, 513 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:40.720 get down there, it's done, and I was like all right, 514 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.240 So I started jumping down like a lot of poison ivy and scrambling down the 515 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:50.000 hill looking because I thought they really saw something that was legit and it was 516 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.720 No. That's when the trout pasta incident happened. When I ran down the 517 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.559 hill, yeah, because they were like, Bobo, you need to run 518 00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:59.359 after it so we can find it and identify it. And you're like, 519 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:00.400 no, we've already identified it, and they were like yeah, with the 520 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.000 audience, they won't make sense to them unless you go run, and you 521 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.319 were like I ain't doing that. I ain't vakeing stuff. And finally be 522 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:08.360 Sha was like, look, man, I'll give you all the rest of 523 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:12.159 the trout pasta if you'll just go do this, and you were like all 524 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:17.480 right, and you did it. Yeah. So there were some growing pains 525 00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.320 first season, you know, because you know, TV is you know, 526 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.760 shallow, superficial and a lot of times not not even real. So but 527 00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:29.000 we wanted to make it as real as possible, so we threw hissy fits. 528 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:32.519 We were stubborn jerks, and eventually we kind of won out because the 529 00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.679 show is a hit and Animal Planet wanted to keep it going. So Animal 530 00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.679 Planet stepped in and fix it. So the producers who were more likely to 531 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.960 you know, fabricate things were dismissed. They were not on the show. 532 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.960 And over the next season or two or three, we basically trained the TV 533 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:53.280 producers to be pretty good bigfooters, you know, Natalie and Chad and even 534 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:58.280 man Tooth and those guys that they would all they would learn what we were 535 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:00.880 looking for in a real Bigfoot spot. Now, of course TV is not 536 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:05.280 real, you know. Just so everybody knows, we film things out of 537 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.719 orders. So when you watch a one hour episode. That seems like we 538 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.199 show up at a spot and then go do this, and because of this, 539 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:13.559 we have to go to this next spot, and because of that next 540 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.239 spot, we go to the next That's all out of order. That's not 541 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.079 true. That's television. That's how they piece things together, you know, 542 00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.760 to make it seem like a storyline for the viewer, because there's a lot 543 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.280 of psychology and TV, and if you're watching something that jumps around and doesn't 544 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.840 follow a storyline, the viewers get lost and they don't engage in that sort 545 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:36.360 of thing. So none of that stuff is true. But with the Animal 546 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:40.679 Planet producers behind us, we made it so we were never asked to fabricat 547 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.920 anything online. We were I mean on screen. Rather, we were never 548 00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.480 asked to lie, and we were asked can you say this? And I 549 00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:52.000 remember several times like they were looking for a connection between stories, Cliff, 550 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:52.800 can you say this? I go no, I can't say that, because 551 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.599 that's not true. But I can't say this, And it turns out that's 552 00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:00.119 better anyway. And then you know that kind of stuff. So se and 553 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.400 one. There were some growing pains between us and the production learning what the 554 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.000 other one needs to do. Their job, you know, and eventually the 555 00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:12.239 production did bend our way. They did give us what we need for the 556 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.400 most part, within limits because they're making a TV show too. But if 557 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.199 we said it about a bigfoot thing, about a piece of evidence, about 558 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.280 what we heard or what we saw, after season one, I mean, 559 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.440 even season one, if we said it, it's true. And after season 560 00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:30.159 one they stopped doing all that TV non sense and we made a good show, 561 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.320 probably the most real reality show that you're ever going to see pretty much. 562 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.840 I mean, that's what our producers say. You can go back and 563 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.760 listen to our producers on this very program, Bigfoot and Beyond. They say 564 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.119 that Finding Bigfoot was the most real reality show they ever worked on, and 565 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.960 that that is something that's something to be proud of in a way, you 566 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.800 know, for producing a reality reality TV might be the end of society for 567 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:54.800 all we know, like the quality of that stuff. But ours was pretty 568 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:58.880 good, not bad, not bad considering what we were up against. And 569 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:01.960 if we said it, you can take it to the bank. Except we 570 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:07.960 might be incorrect. You have to give us that one caveat. But we 571 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.000 didn't lie, and I think that's kind of cool. Yeah, I have 572 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.920 to say, I was really impressed, especially now with hindsight having worked on 573 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.119 other things. Like when we were doing the prep for that Georgia episode, 574 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.519 there was one siding that to get to the spot where it's Bobo and Matt 575 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:23.199 with this witness to interview them, and you had to cross the river and 576 00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:28.559 it was over hip deep. And when we were going to scout the spot, 577 00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.440 I'd been there many times, but I took Natalie the producer there and 578 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.960 she was like, oh, this is kind of rough, Like don't you 579 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.199 think we can just shoot it on this side of the river. And I 580 00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.280 was like, I promise you the cast will not settle for faking it somewhere 581 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.880 nearby. They'll want to see the spot when they do the interview. And 582 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:45.679 she was just like, okay, well, I guess we better find somewhere 583 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.199 that has waiters and get everybody's waiter sizes. And we did. And so 584 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.400 they never tried to push like, oh, well we'll just shoot it behind 585 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.079 this parking lot here and say we're in the woods or whatever the case. 586 00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:59.880 They tried. They tried, but when we said no, they didn't, 587 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.519 but they still try it though like we had. They still they still try 588 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.119 it all the time over the years, like, hey, can you know 589 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:08.400 it's gonna be a lot of work, just gonna We always said no, 590 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.280 We got a couple of times just said all right, because there's just gonna 591 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.559 be like way too much of a way, like huge housle for the camera 592 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.960 crew and take all night, all day and all that. But yeah, 593 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.880 we always just said we got it real spot, then it's it's just worthless. 594 00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:30.360 Yeah, just an even got to the point where like as far as 595 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:32.119 like our demands of telling the truth. You remember that one episode, I 596 00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:37.239 think it was in Kentucky or something like that, there was some product placement 597 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.119 I think for paid a candy bars. I remember specifically paid a Candy Bars, 598 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:44.280 and they said, Cliff, Okay, somebody is getting some money. 599 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:45.880 And it wasn't me, by the way. I didn't. I didn't get 600 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.239 paid anything for that, but somebody somewhere up the ladder, I guess, 601 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:53.239 probably got paid for having Payday candy bars in one of our episodes. So 602 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.440 they were they concocted this idea where I was going to go out and put 603 00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.800 Payday candy bars in front of a game camera to see what we can get. 604 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:01.800 An I second, really I got to do that, that kind of 605 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:04.800 sucks. And I said, oh, well, you know, we'll just 606 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:06.920 put it out and then we'll film me picking it up the same day. 607 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:07.880 So no, no, no, no, if we're gonna do this, 608 00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:13.920 we're gonna do this. And the producers let me leave it out there for 609 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.039 two or three days just to see if we get anything. So at least 610 00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:21.760 we did even that for real. You know, that's the at least from 611 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.239 my perspective, that's something that's pretty cool that the production gave to us, 612 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.920 because a lot of other TV shows, I think from working on other productions 613 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.199 and stuff, would be more than happy just to fake it, put it 614 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.880 out, then pick it up ten minutes later, five minutes later, and 615 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:37.199 say that it was three days. But we really did do it two or 616 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:42.000 three days later. It was very eye opening to me what is real and 617 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.000 what's not on TV. But you know, we did our very very best 618 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:49.159 to keep our show as real as possible, and with the production company's help 619 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.800 and the network's help, we did. We did. We made a pretty 620 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.519 good, darn, pretty darn good show. And I think reality TV is 621 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.119 a terrible medium. I don't like reality TV. I don't like TV in 622 00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:02.920 general. But our show was fun and entertaining, and we were I think 623 00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:06.840 that we were pretty funny in a lot of ways, and the Bigfoot stuff 624 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:12.360 was real. I think that's cool. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond 625 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:21.679 with Cliff and Bogo. We'll be right back after these messages. And in 626 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.199 keeping with defining Bigfoot theme, this the origin story has never really been told, 627 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:29.519 and so I thought this would be a great last question here and it 628 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.760 just came in today, So it was a last addition to be the cue 629 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.280 here. But I think it'd be for some good discussion that probably a lot 630 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.159 of listeners would love to hear. See. This one's from Alice Walton bao 631 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.280 Hey, Cliff and Bobo. I love the podcast. I was wondering how 632 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.719 did they approach you guys for finding Bigfoot? Who did they approach first? 633 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.280 Thanks? I think they got a hold of Moneymaker first through the VFRO. 634 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:52.119 No they didn't, because they didn't get a hold of money Maker first. 635 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.280 They got a hold of The first onst they got hold of was Bart, 636 00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.519 and then Bart gave my network say, I guess they asked a few people 637 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:04.480 they're looking for me. I don't remember the exact details Now, then Matt 638 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:08.280 got because I know I gave him Matt's number, and they'd heard about Matt 639 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:13.840 from the previous show. He was on the Mysterious Encounters, So they were 640 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.880 kind of at a little hesitant on that one, but you know, they're 641 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:22.000 on board. Which they met him. They brought ten of us to Matt, 642 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.519 and Wally ended up paying for us all come down. Well, wallypaid, 643 00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.039 Matt got organized ten of us to go down to Orange County and we 644 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.480 interviewed for him, and yeah, that's how it started. Yeah. The 645 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.920 story I got from the production company is Brad, one of the owners of 646 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:43.000 the production company, pitched a show to Discovery or actually all over the place, 647 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.639 but Discovery bit on it about Bigfoot, and I remember he told me 648 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.800 the pitch and everything. He says that I'm a child of this nineteen seventies. 649 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.840 I grew up in the nineteen seventies. Evil canebel is now dead, 650 00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:59.599 Farah Fawcett is now dead. We got to do something about this bigfoot thing, 651 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:01.159 because those are the three things I remember about the seventies the most. 652 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:05.960 And they kind of bid on that. This was after Farah Faucet and Evele 653 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.599 died obviously, yeah, so, and then they bid on it. And 654 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.039 I was also told, I think the guy who in charge of casting told 655 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:17.039 me this that initially they got actors to do the part. Because most reality 656 00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:21.079 shows, you know, if they're you know, saying they're experts and something, 657 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.280 most of them are just actors acting like it. That's how they get 658 00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:28.840 these gigs or whatever. So initially they got actors to play the part parts 659 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.880 of the Bigfoot experts. But after maybe a few like test roles or whatever, 660 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.039 they decided, these guys don't know enough to do this. They don't 661 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.639 know very much, so why don't we just go plumb the Bigfoot community. 662 00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:42.760 Maybe a couple of them will will you know, be you know, good 663 00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:45.159 for the camera. And then they started poking around and doing stuff. I 664 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:50.920 know that for my part, I mean, I'm assuming they got my number 665 00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:54.719 either from Matt or Bobo or they contacted me online, maybe through my blogs. 666 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.159 I had a really active blog at the time. Guy named Todd calls 667 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:04.960 me and that they were they're going to do a Bigfoot thing where no no, 668 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.840 no expense spared by land, sea and air and all this other hogwash. 669 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.199 Do I want to be a part of it? I said, well, 670 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.239 yeah, yeah, sure, that sounds cool. Yeah, okay, 671 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.840 well great, send me a resume about yourself, send me a couple of 672 00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:21.480 test reels of you on camera doing some stuff, and there you go. 673 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:23.639 And then I didn't hear anything. I wasn't involved in that thing that Bobo 674 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:28.360 mentioned down at Wally's house. I was working at the time. I couldn't 675 00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.280 get away, so yeah, I didn't. I didn't hear anything until the 676 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:36.719 following May. I think when Moneymaker calls me that says Cliff Cliff, good 677 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:37.440 news man, you got the spot, and I go, oh, that's 678 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.079 great. What are you talking about. He goes, oh, remember that 679 00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.519 guy Todd that called He goes, oh, yeah, back in November. 680 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:45.960 That was real. He said, yeah, you got the spot. It's 681 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.199 me and you and Bobo and we're looking for a biologist. They got no 682 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.159 kidding, huh, And when are we shooting? And then the pilot was 683 00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.039 filmed like the week after I got out of school, so it all kind 684 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:59.639 of lined up and there you go, man, that that's how it happened 685 00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.079 for me, at least, not to brag, but I did tell him 686 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.639 I'm not doing it without Cliff, because they told me that here picked right 687 00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.400 off the bat, I said, I'm not doing anything about Cliff because I 688 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.119 had I had offers from History Channel. Doug Hatchick wanted to do something with 689 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:15.000 these offered. He wanted to do a series, and then Bob Saget's company 690 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.800 wanted to do this serious. I was like, I got options, dude, 691 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.719 I don't do anything about Cliff because I know. I remember a couple 692 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:29.119 of years in I was talking to Marjorie the president and our main man, 693 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:31.880 Yeah, Keith Hoppin and Marjorie Kaplan. They said, I said, you 694 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.360 guys got to be happiest with Cliff. Now I'm sure, and he goes 695 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:37.559 he just smiled. I said, you're not going to hurt my feelings, 696 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.480 but you guys got to be both stoked on Cliff. He goes, yes, 697 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.559 we are. Well there you go. Now there you go, Alex. 698 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:49.000 There's there's a couple of perspectives on the origin of the entire TV show. 699 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.119 So there you go. I hope, I hope that's satisfied your curiosity. 700 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.119 And of course, uh, if any of any of our other listeners 701 00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:58.119 are interested in asking us a question, you can do so. 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